From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com Thu Feb 10 13:33:43 2022 From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 20:33:43 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] blast cabinet issue Message-ID: Hey all, I have a stand-up HF blast cabinet pushed by a single stage Porter Cable 80-gallon compressor. The compressor runs almost constantly but keeps up just fine. My air is not the driest but I rarely see moisture being blasted on to the metal unless it is summer and more humid. I am currently using "black blast" from Menards on a 50+ year old drive shaft. It is rusty but is coming clean relatively easy....kinda.... My issue is I get about 20-45 second of real good and quick cleaning/blasting then the stream coming out of the nozzle seems to get weaker and not have much if any media in it. If I clean the intake, it works fine again for a little bit, then get less effective again. Clearing the intake is easy enough but slows down the process. (this is quite the PITA when the temps are in the 20s or lower.) Thought on why I have to keep clearing the intake? Thanks tim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From darrellw360 at mac.com Thu Feb 10 13:40:31 2022 From: darrellw360 at mac.com (Darrell Walker) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 12:40:31 -0800 Subject: [Shop-talk] blast cabinet issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5432DE31-7D1C-446D-98D5-41C002F0CD37@mac.com> Is the intake getting blocked, or is there just not media around the intake (duning)? If it is the latter, I added a vibrator to my setup, it makes sure the media keeps flowing down. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MFRVKNV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 -Darrell > On Feb 10, 2022, at 12:33 PM, Tim . wrote: > > Hey all, > > I have a stand-up HF blast cabinet pushed by a single stage Porter Cable 80-gallon compressor. The compressor runs almost constantly but keeps up just fine. My air is not the driest but I rarely see moisture being blasted on to the metal unless it is summer and more humid. > > I am currently using "black blast" from Menards on a 50+ year old drive shaft. It is rusty but is coming clean relatively easy....kinda.... > > My issue is I get about 20-45 second of real good and quick cleaning/blasting then the stream coming out of the nozzle seems to get weaker and not have much if any media in it. If I clean the intake, it works fine again for a little bit, then get less effective again. > > Clearing the intake is easy enough but slows down the process. (this is quite the PITA when the temps are in the 20s or lower.) > > Thought on why I have to keep clearing the intake? > > Thanks > tim > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/darrellw360 at mac.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com Thu Feb 10 13:46:22 2022 From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 20:46:22 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] blast cabinet issue In-Reply-To: <5432DE31-7D1C-446D-98D5-41C002F0CD37@mac.com> References: <5432DE31-7D1C-446D-98D5-41C002F0CD37@mac.com> Message-ID: There is media around the intake. I like the idea of that vibrator if I can find one. What you shared is not available. ________________________________ From: Darrell Walker Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 2:40 PM To: Tim . Cc: Shop Talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] blast cabinet issue Is the intake getting blocked, or is there just not media around the intake (duning)? If it is the latter, I added a vibrator to my setup, it makes sure the media keeps flowing down. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MFRVKNV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 -Darrell On Feb 10, 2022, at 12:33 PM, Tim . > wrote: Hey all, I have a stand-up HF blast cabinet pushed by a single stage Porter Cable 80-gallon compressor. The compressor runs almost constantly but keeps up just fine. My air is not the driest but I rarely see moisture being blasted on to the metal unless it is summer and more humid. I am currently using "black blast" from Menards on a 50+ year old drive shaft. It is rusty but is coming clean relatively easy....kinda.... My issue is I get about 20-45 second of real good and quick cleaning/blasting then the stream coming out of the nozzle seems to get weaker and not have much if any media in it. If I clean the intake, it works fine again for a little bit, then get less effective again. Clearing the intake is easy enough but slows down the process. (this is quite the PITA when the temps are in the 20s or lower.) Thought on why I have to keep clearing the intake? Thanks tim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/darrellw360 at mac.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patintexas at icloud.com Thu Feb 10 13:54:33 2022 From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 14:54:33 -0600 Subject: [Shop-talk] blast cabinet issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <63d6c8c2-f212-baba-80d2-a6ae0bc31fb2@icloud.com> I have a similar problem with an Eastwoods table top cabinet. I'm using coal slag from Tractor Supply. I find that the slope of the cabinet bottom is not steep enough to recycle the slag well. When I see that there is less media than I expect, I put my finger over the nozzle & blip the trigger, causing any media in the hose & around the pickup to blow backwards, then settle down. I am then able to blast for a few more minutes, until it happens again. I also use a 60 gallon single stage compressor. Here in central Texas it is quite humid most of the time so I use a small in line water separator at the inlet to the cabinet. I should buy a larger one but haven't gotten around to it. If I am doing a lot of blasting I need to empty it about every 15 minutes, even though I empty the water out of the tank & drip legs at each startup. Peace, Pat On 2/10/2022 2:33 PM, Tim . wrote: > Hey all, > > I have a stand-up HF blast cabinet pushed by a single stage Porter > Cable 80-gallon compressor. The compressor runs almost constantly but > keeps up just fine. My air is not the driest but I rarely see moisture > being blasted on to the metal unless it is summer and more humid. > > I am currently using "black blast" from Menards on a 50+ year old > drive shaft. It is rusty but is coming clean relatively easy....kinda.... > > My issue is I get about 20-45 second of real good and quick > cleaning/blasting then the stream coming out of the nozzle seems to > get weaker and not have much if any media in it. If I clean the > intake, it works fine again for a little bit, then get less effective > again. > > Clearing the intake is easy enough but slows down the process. (this > is quite the PITA when the temps are in the 20s or lower.) > > Thought on why I have to keep clearing the intake? > > Thanks > tim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas at icloud.com > -- We support Habitat for Humanity, a hand UP, not a hand OUT From fishplate at gmail.com Thu Feb 10 14:13:45 2022 From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 16:13:45 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] blast cabinet issue In-Reply-To: <63d6c8c2-f212-baba-80d2-a6ae0bc31fb2@icloud.com> References: <63d6c8c2-f212-baba-80d2-a6ae0bc31fb2@icloud.com> Message-ID: The finger trick is what works for me, along with having plenty of media available. On Thu, Feb 10, 2022, 15:57 Pat Horne wrote: > I have a similar problem with an Eastwoods table top cabinet. I'm using > coal slag from Tractor Supply. I find that the slope of the cabinet > bottom is not steep enough to recycle the slag well. When I see that > there is less media than I expect, I put my finger over the nozzle & > blip the trigger, causing any media in the hose & around the pickup to > blow backwards, then settle down. I am then able to blast for a few more > minutes, until it happens again. I also use a 60 gallon single stage > compressor. Here in central Texas it is quite humid most of the time so > I use a small in line water separator at the inlet to the cabinet. I > should buy a larger one but haven't gotten around to it. If I am doing a > lot of blasting I need to empty it about every 15 minutes, even though I > empty the water out of the tank & drip legs at each startup. > > Peace, > > Pat > > > On 2/10/2022 2:33 PM, Tim . wrote: > > Hey all, > > > > I have a stand-up HF blast cabinet pushed by a single stage Porter > > Cable 80-gallon compressor. The compressor runs almost constantly but > > keeps up just fine. My air is not the driest but I rarely see moisture > > being blasted on to the metal unless it is summer and more humid. > > > > I am currently using "black blast" from Menards on a 50+ year old > > drive shaft. It is rusty but is coming clean relatively easy....kinda.... > > > > My issue is I get about 20-45 second of real good and quick > > cleaning/blasting then the stream coming out of the nozzle seems to > > get weaker and not have much if any media in it. If I clean the > > intake, it works fine again for a little bit, then get less effective > > again. > > > > Clearing the intake is easy enough but slows down the process. (this > > is quite the PITA when the temps are in the 20s or lower.) > > > > Thought on why I have to keep clearing the intake? > > > > Thanks > > tim > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas at icloud.com > > > -- > We support Habitat for Humanity, a hand UP, not a hand OUT > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fishplate at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmscheidt at gmail.com Thu Feb 10 14:31:07 2022 From: dmscheidt at gmail.com (David Scheidt) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 15:31:07 -0600 Subject: [Shop-talk] blast cabinet issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > On Feb 10, 2022, at 14:49, Tim . wrote: > > ? > There is media around the intake. > > I like the idea of that vibrator if I can find one. What you shared is not available. > Look for ?table vibrator? motor. Should Be able get one for less than $100. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patintexas at icloud.com Thu Feb 10 14:33:26 2022 From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 15:33:26 -0600 Subject: [Shop-talk] blast cabinet issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Looks like the same units used on beds. Peace, Pat Pat Horne We support Habitat for Humanity On Feb 10, 2022, at 3:31 PM, David Scheidt wrote: ? > On Feb 10, 2022, at 14:49, Tim . wrote: > > ? > There is media around the intake. > > I like the idea of that vibrator if I can find one. What you shared is not available. > Look for ?table vibrator? motor. Should Be able get one for less than $100. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com Thu Feb 10 15:42:27 2022 From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 22:42:27 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] blast cabinet issue In-Reply-To: References: <5432DE31-7D1C-446D-98D5-41C002F0CD37@mac.com> Message-ID: It seems my issue is not uncommon so I won't worry too much about it. Now to find a vibrator and replace my line drier. thanks guys ________________________________ From: Shop-talk on behalf of Tim . Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 2:46 PM To: Shop Talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] blast cabinet issue There is media around the intake. I like the idea of that vibrator if I can find one. What you shared is not available. ________________________________ From: Darrell Walker Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 2:40 PM To: Tim . Cc: Shop Talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] blast cabinet issue Is the intake getting blocked, or is there just not media around the intake (duning)? If it is the latter, I added a vibrator to my setup, it makes sure the media keeps flowing down. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MFRVKNV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 -Darrell On Feb 10, 2022, at 12:33 PM, Tim . > wrote: Hey all, I have a stand-up HF blast cabinet pushed by a single stage Porter Cable 80-gallon compressor. The compressor runs almost constantly but keeps up just fine. My air is not the driest but I rarely see moisture being blasted on to the metal unless it is summer and more humid. I am currently using "black blast" from Menards on a 50+ year old drive shaft. It is rusty but is coming clean relatively easy....kinda.... My issue is I get about 20-45 second of real good and quick cleaning/blasting then the stream coming out of the nozzle seems to get weaker and not have much if any media in it. If I clean the intake, it works fine again for a little bit, then get less effective again. Clearing the intake is easy enough but slows down the process. (this is quite the PITA when the temps are in the 20s or lower.) Thought on why I have to keep clearing the intake? Thanks tim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/darrellw360 at mac.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eric at megageek.com Thu Feb 10 16:18:09 2022 From: eric at megageek.com (eric at megageek.com) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 18:18:09 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] blast cabinet issue In-Reply-To: References: <5432DE31-7D1C-446D-98D5-41C002F0CD37@mac.com> Message-ID: Really guys, you are having a hard time finding a vibrator for the blast cabinet? I put "vibrator" in amazon and I get thousands of results! 8>) Some are pretty interesting. 8>0 Who knew tools could be so 'sexy'! 8>) Moose -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Thu Feb 10 16:21:33 2022 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 23:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Shop-talk] blast cabinet issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1077709921.997206.1644535293194@mail.yahoo.com> If you press your hand over the outlet of the blaster it will force the air back down the pick-up tube and clear whatever is blocking the inlet. Takes one second. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Tim . To: Shop Talk Sent: Thu, Feb 10, 2022 2:33 pm Subject: [Shop-talk] blast cabinet issue #yiv4206507883 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}Hey all,? I have a stand-up HF blast cabinet pushed by a single stage Porter Cable 80-gallon compressor. The compressor runs almost constantly but keeps up just fine. My air is not the driest but I rarely see moisture being blasted on to the metal unless it is summer and more humid. I am currently using "black blast" from Menards on a 50+ year old drive shaft. It is rusty but is coming clean relatively easy....kinda....? My issue is I get about 20-45 second of real good and quick cleaning/blasting then the stream coming out of the nozzle seems to get weaker and not have much if any media in it. If I clean the intake, it works fine again for a little bit, then get less effective again.? Clearing the intake is easy enough but slows down the process. (this is quite the PITA when the temps are in the 20s or lower.) Thought on why I have to keep clearing the intake?? Thankstim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bk13 at earthlink.net Thu Feb 10 16:59:17 2022 From: bk13 at earthlink.net (Brian Kemp) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 15:59:17 -0800 Subject: [Shop-talk] blast cabinet issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9cacbf94-2087-51cb-5591-50882eff2599@earthlink.net> Tim - A palm grip sander vibrates a bunch.? You could always try one of them as a short term solution.? I'd use a sheet of inner tube or a rubber glove instead of sand paper so you don't sand a hole in your cabinet. Brian On 2/10/2022 12:33 PM, Tim . wrote: > Hey all, > > I have a stand-up HF blast cabinet pushed by a single stage Porter > Cable 80-gallon compressor. The compressor runs almost constantly but > keeps up just fine. My air is not the driest but I rarely see moisture > being blasted on to the metal unless it is summer and more humid. > > I am currently using "black blast" from Menards on a 50+ year old > drive shaft. It is rusty but is coming clean relatively easy....kinda.... > > My issue is I get about 20-45 second of real good and quick > cleaning/blasting then the stream coming out of the nozzle seems to > get weaker and not have much if any media in it. If I clean the > intake, it works fine again for a little bit, then get less effective > again. > > Clearing the intake is easy enough but slows down the process. (this > is quite the PITA when the temps are in the 20s or lower.) > > Thought on why I have to keep clearing the intake? > > Thanks > tim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/bk13 at earthlink.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com Sat Feb 26 09:38:15 2022 From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 16:38:15 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] blast cabinet issue In-Reply-To: References: <5432DE31-7D1C-446D-98D5-41C002F0CD37@mac.com> Message-ID: Who would have thought that amazon sold sex toys...... ????? ________________________________ From: Shop-talk on behalf of Tim . Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 2:46 PM To: Shop Talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] blast cabinet issue There is media around the intake. I like the idea of that vibrator if I can find one. What you shared is not available. ________________________________ From: Darrell Walker Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 2:40 PM To: Tim . Cc: Shop Talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] blast cabinet issue Is the intake getting blocked, or is there just not media around the intake (duning)? If it is the latter, I added a vibrator to my setup, it makes sure the media keeps flowing down. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MFRVKNV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 -Darrell On Feb 10, 2022, at 12:33 PM, Tim . > wrote: Hey all, I have a stand-up HF blast cabinet pushed by a single stage Porter Cable 80-gallon compressor. The compressor runs almost constantly but keeps up just fine. My air is not the driest but I rarely see moisture being blasted on to the metal unless it is summer and more humid. I am currently using "black blast" from Menards on a 50+ year old drive shaft. It is rusty but is coming clean relatively easy....kinda.... My issue is I get about 20-45 second of real good and quick cleaning/blasting then the stream coming out of the nozzle seems to get weaker and not have much if any media in it. If I clean the intake, it works fine again for a little bit, then get less effective again. Clearing the intake is easy enough but slows down the process. (this is quite the PITA when the temps are in the 20s or lower.) Thought on why I have to keep clearing the intake? Thanks tim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/darrellw360 at mac.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From watsonm05 at comcast.net Sat Feb 26 10:27:55 2022 From: watsonm05 at comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 18:27:55 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Shop-talk] blast cabinet issue In-Reply-To: References: <5432DE31-7D1C-446D-98D5-41C002F0CD37@mac.com> Message-ID: <1369193527.977243.1645896475766@connect.xfinity.com> Years ago I used the kit plans from TPTools, https://www.tptools.com/Build-Your-Own-Cabinet-Plans,337.html?b=d*8039, and built mine out of reclaimed plywood. I haven't been able to use it in years (kids, garage full of junk, work - you know the regular excuses) but I remember using a very high tech tool to get the media to flow - I kicked the funnel when the blasting stopped. Since my habit is to wear steel toe boots while I'm working in the garage I could give it a good thump. Mostly worked though had I thought of it at the time I would have explored a bed vibrator (don't think the typical, ahem, "facial massager" would have enough vibration to work ;-)). Mark 1956 Daimler Regency Mk2 '104' - longer term project than I care to admit > On 02/26/2022 5:38 PM Tim . wrote: > > > Who would have thought that amazon sold sex toys...... ????? > > > --------------------------------------------- > From: Shop-talk on behalf of Tim . > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 2:46 PM > To: Shop Talk > Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] blast cabinet issue > > There is media around the intake. > > I like the idea of that vibrator if I can find one. What you shared is not available. > > > > --------------------------------------------- > From: Darrell Walker > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 2:40 PM > To: Tim . > Cc: Shop Talk > Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] blast cabinet issue > > > Is the intake getting blocked, or is there just not media around the intake (duning)? > > If it is the latter, I added a vibrator to my setup, it makes sure the media keeps flowing down. > > https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MFRVKNV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 > > -Darrell > > > > > On Feb 10, 2022, at 12:33 PM, Tim . wrote: > > > > Hey all, > > > > I have a stand-up HF blast cabinet pushed by a single stage Porter Cable 80-gallon compressor. The compressor runs almost constantly but keeps up just fine. My air is not the driest but I rarely see moisture being blasted on to the metal unless it is summer and more humid. > > > > I am currently using "black blast" from Menards on a 50+ year old drive shaft. It is rusty but is coming clean relatively easy....kinda.... > > > > My issue is I get about 20-45 second of real good and quick cleaning/blasting then the stream coming out of the nozzle seems to get weaker and not have much if any media in it. If I clean the intake, it works fine again for a little bit, then get less effective again. > > > > Clearing the intake is easy enough but slows down the process. (this is quite the PITA when the temps are in the 20s or lower.) > > > > Thought on why I have to keep clearing the intake? > > > > Thanks > > tim > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net mailto:Shop-talk at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/darrellw360 at mac.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/watsonm05 at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: