[Shop-talk] Cordless drill/screw driver

Mon Jan 11 10:49:30 MST 2021

My 1/4 Dewalt brushless impact will not remove the lugs from most of my
vehicles.  It works on the '76 Spitfire, but nothing else.  I have been
lusting after one of the bigger 1/2" Dewalt impact drivers, but can't
justify the cost when I have literally half a dozen 1/2" air impact drivers
in the drawer.  Maybe one day....

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 11:36 AM Paul Parkanzky <parkanzky at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 12:23 PM Karl Vacek <stearman809 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Power is incredible.  The impact won't take off lug nuts, but then I
>> haven't actually tried.  I'm sure (once I buy one) the 1/2" will beat the
>> pants off my disappointing HF Earthquake 1/2" impact.
>>
>
> You'd be surprised. The 1/4" impacts make 100-120 lb-ft of torque. So
> they'll remove lug nuts on most cars if they haven't been over-torqued or
> on there forever. They won't break them free on my 3/4-ton truck or
> anything like that. But my friend has the 1/2" high-torque impact gun
> and... 1400 lb-ft of removal torque. We call it "The middle finger of God"
> because when you put it on a fastner and set the torque to "all of it" then
> _something_ is going to give.
>
>
>> Close to a religious experience. Highly recommended.
>>
>
> Agreed. I've been a Bosch cordless guy for years but Milwaukee if
> light-years ahead right now and I'll have a bench covered with red cordless
> tools when I set my new shop up this summer.
>
> -Paul
>
>
>> On January 11, 2021 10:45:30 AM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Others have said it, but I'll reiterate: Pick a battery/voltage, then
>>> acquire the tools that go with it. If you get a cordless drill, eventually
>>> you'll want a cordless impact 'wrench'--for lug nuts if nothing else--a
>>> 'sawzall'  (equivalent), a circular saw, etc. Buy a combo kit, with a
>>> battery and charger included, to start.
>>>
>>> I went with DeWalt 20V 'XR' brushless, because of mostly positive
>>> reviews and, whether it's merit or good product placement by the marketeers
>>> (probably both), they seem to be the most popular among the mechanics,
>>> farmers, etc. on the quasi-reality TV shows (Stihl gets the nod for gas
>>> chainsaws, with Husqvarna second). I bought a cordless DeWalt hedger,
>>> slightly discounted because it was a display model, thinking "Sure, it'll
>>> do a couple bushes then quit," but we did my mom's whole (large) backyard
>>> on a single 4Ah battery. The tool that drains the battery fastest is my
>>> 4&1/2" angle grinder/sander/wirebrusher, probably because it runs more
>>> continuously and has an 'open circuit' load; I get about 20mins on a 4Ah
>>> battery.
>>>
>>> I have a full complement of pneumatic and corded electric tools--many
>>> are Harbor Freight, for occasional use--that are mostly collecting dust
>>> these days; it's just not worth unraveling an extension cord or firing up
>>> the compressor for a quick, one-off job . One of my faves is an old Makita
>>> 9V driver/drill, which can't hold a candle for power to the DeWalt--and
>>> replacement Chinese batteries are hit-or-miss--but it keeps soldiering-on.
>>> Makita stuff is top-notch, but I haven't seen the variety of tools--doesn't
>>> mean they don't have them--that DeWalt, Milwaukee, etc. have on display.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2021 5:38 AM, Tim . wrote:
>>>
>>> I didn't say I was going to spend 320. I said "if necessary".
>>>
>>> I already have a mitre saw. In fact, I have a full shop including
>>> 80-gallon compressor, blast cabinet, parts washer, panel beating tools, and
>>> a boat load of hand tools.
>>>
>>> I simply want the best cordless drill/screw driver out there. My
>>> experience with ryobi is that they don't hold up to even how much I use
>>> them.
>>>
>>> tim
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* John T. Blair <jblair1948 at cox.net> <jblair1948 at cox.net>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:09 PM
>>> *To:* Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com>
>>> <tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] Cordless drill/screw driver
>>>
>>> At 10:58 AM 1/10/2021, Tim wrote:
>>>
>>> >I have a $100 menards rebate check and a $60 rebate visa card that are
>>> both
>>> >burning a hole in my pocket. Also, I have the 15% "anything you can fit
>>> in the
>>> >bag" sale bag. I figure $160 is a good starting point and am willing to
>>> at least
>>> >match that 160 or more if necessary to get the best out there right
>>> now.
>>>
>>> ......
>>>
>>> >I am not worried about a little heavier than most as I am not
>>> contractor and this
>>> >won't get used every day. I am just getting tired of dragging cords.
>>> I'd like
>>> >whatever I get to be the start of going all cordless (skill saw,
>>> Sawzall, etc).
>>>
>>> Tim,
>>>
>>> If you are not going to be using it every day, why do you want to spend
>>> a ton of
>>> money on a cordless drill.  You say you have $160 burning a hole in your
>>> pocket
>>> and are willing to put another $160 to that.  Man that $320!!!!  You can
>>> get a
>>> Roybi or such for say $100.  Usually around Xmas which you just missed,
>>> you can
>>> get a Roybi kit with a drill, saw, and another tool for less than $150.
>>> That's where
>>> I'd put the first $160.  Then I'd look at something else like a sliding
>>> compound
>>> miter saw, or a nail gun or two, or some other tools.
>>>
>>> Now that being said, let me say I buy a lot of Harbor Freight tools.
>>> And for the
>>> occassional use they work well.  I have a $25 ish oscillating saw, which
>>> I've used
>>> for something over 5 yrs.  It just died in the middle of a remodel in a
>>> bedroom.
>>> So I bought another.  Especially if you don't know what you're going to
>>> use it for.
>>> I also have a cheap $20 H.F. recriprocating saw that has paid for it's
>>> self.  If I'd
>>> have bought a $100 to $300 version of either of these tools, I'd never
>>> had really
>>> gotten my money worth out of the tool.  I'm 72 and it's getting harder
>>> and harder
>>> every day for me to do a lot of the things I used to do, like bend over.
>>> :)  So why
>>> should I pay for a tool that would last me for the next 30 years or so,
>>> if I'm only
>>> going to be around for another 10 years?
>>>
>>> Spend a little less money on a tool, and get more of them.  Especially
>>> if it not your
>>> bread and butter.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>  2
>>>
>>>
>>>
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