[Shop-talk] Metal cleaner for paint prep

[RandE]

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On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 9:00 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:

> I ended up with WD-40 Degreaser; no rinsing required (the gate is in
> dirt). Funny thing, rattle-can paint is about as scarce as toilet paper
> for some reason; HomeDepot had been picked clean in spite of what their
> website claimed and Lowe's wasn't much better but I found enough to do
> the job (I hope). While I was looking at paint at both stores several
> groups of people came in and bought a bunch of cans; has everybody
> decided to re-paint everything while on 'lockdown?'
>
> Bob
>
> On 6/15/2020 2:43 PM, Donald H Locker wrote:
> > Yep; looks like 2-Butoxyethanol (EGME) is no longer used - it has
> > unhealthy side-effects. Nyco has switched to 3-hydroxybytyrate; Simple
> > Green now uses Ethoxylated Alcohol; Fantastik is off to [something else]
> > and 409 uses lauryldimethylamine oxide for their surfactant.
> >
> > Donald.
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> > On 2020-06-15 12:16 p.m., Bob Spidell wrote:
> >> Thanks for the replies, guys. The gate was fabbed by a friend who works
> >> for me sometimes (he's a garage door contractor). It's raw steel, so I
> >> think I'll go with an off-the-shelf degreaser and maybe an acetone
> >> follow-up (prob go with the Klean-Strip). It's gonna be a rattle-can
> >> paint job, so nothing fancy.
> >>
> >> I checked a few products with 2-Butoxyethanol didn't see any
> >> products--with labels I could see--containing it. It appears the
> >> environmentalists might have taken issue with it.
> >> Bob
> >>
> >> On 6/14/2020 9:42 PM, Brian Kemp wrote:
> >>> Bob - Since it is a new gate you had built, can you ask the supplier
> >>> what they recommend?  I'd start with your favorite cleaner/degreaser
> >>> then use a phosphoric acid "metal prep" product.  I did this on a
> >>> second hand roll bar that was a bit rusty then sprayed with an epoxy
> >>> paint.  Still looks good after 20+ years.
> >>>
> >>> Here is a sample product that looks like what I used:
> >>>
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Klean-Strip-1-Gal-Concrete-Etch-Metal-Prep-Rust-Inhibitor-GKPA30220/100406369
> >>>
> >>> or
> >>>
> https://www.lowes.com/pd/Klean-Strip-Concrete-and-Metal-Prep-1-GAL/1001456348
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Note that if the iron was galvanized, you have different directions.
> >>> Here is one of the search returns on painting galvanized metal:
> >>>
> https://www.dunnedwards.com/professional/painting-contractors/under-the-lid/painting-galvanized-steel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Brian
> >>>
> >>> On 6/14/2020 1:09 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:
> >>>> Listers,
> >>>>
> >>>> I've had a new iron gate built for our ranch. I'll paint it using
> >>>> Rustoleum self-etching primer and enamel; what is the List wisdom on
> >>>> the best prep/cleaner: acetone, brake cleaner, lacquer thinner, etc.?
> >>>> I know they'd all work pretty well; any favorites? Drawbacks? Note
> >>>> the iron was protected with some sort of oil/grease/wax.
> >>>>
> >>>> TIA,
> >>>> Bob
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