[Shop-talk] Plug for 14/2 solid wire?

[Jim Franklin]

The code is not clear, i.e. it states a few things that can be interpreted as "no Romex in conduit" but doesn't explicitly forbid it. I also think it explicitly permits it when going from a protected area (my garage walls) to an unprotected area (the new junction box flush mounted to the ceiling). 

Realistically, I'd worry more about heat buildup in an insulated wall that I would metal conduit in a garage in New England. I suppose some future yahoo could repurpose ths wiring to run something beyond spec, but as it'll be hardwired to the 11 watt lights I'm not concerned enough to buy individual wires to run through the conduit I am not sure I'll be buying yet :-)

jim

> On Nov 10, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Brian Kemp <bk13 at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> Jim - Here are two sample single gang timers. 
> 
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Defiant-15-Amp-In-Wall-3-Way-Daylight-Adjusting-Digital-Timer-Switch-with-Screw-Terminals-White-32648/300524126
> 
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Honeywell-7-Day-Programmable-Timer-Switch-for-Lights-and-Motors-RPLS730B1000-U/206311889
> 
> Also, you might want to check about Romex in conduit.  I don't think you can do that according to code, except for short sections open at both ends.  I think the issue is possible heat buildup and the thermal rating of the wire insulation.
> 
> Brian
> 
> On 11/10/2019 12:59 PM, Jim Franklin via Shop-talk wrote:
>> I should have prefaced that I know what "right" is, and it's just not gonna happen for various reasons. There will be proper boxes where the fixture wiring connects to the Romex, at least. It's the other end that's the issue.
>> 
>> A quick Google doesn't find any direct-wire single-gang switches with built-in timers, which would be neat. Do you know of any? There's an ugly floodlight already switched that I'd like to remove, and if I can repurpose the wiring to that into a junction box with the new light wiring, and replace the switch with a timered switch, that would be quite close to "right".
>> 
>> Heck, I might even get excited enough to buy some rigid conduit for the Romex instead of leaving it exposed :-)
>> 
>> jim
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:44 PM, Steven Trovato <strovato at optonline.net>
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jim,
>>> 
>>> If these are regular wall mounted lights, they should be wired directly into a box.  You should add a line from power source to a switch and then to the lights.  All of this should be done within the walls, ceiling, etc of the building, or in conduit if mounted on the surface.  The switch you use can incorporate a timer if desired.  There should be no plugs involved, and no lamp cord.  Of course you can rig up anything you want and make the lights come on, but it won't be proper or safe like that.  Is this intended to be a permanent installation?  If it is, do it right.
>>> 
>>> -Steve
>>> 
>>> At 03:00 PM 11/10/2019, Jim Franklin via Shop-talk wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm addinng external carriage lights and have a 50' roll of 14/2 Romex I'd like to use up, not to mention 50' of 14/2 stranded is almost $1/ft.
>>>> 
>>>> I'd like to have the lights on a timer. I have outlets in the garage, and I happen to have a mechanical timer that you'd use for a livingroom lamp, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> Can I use a regular add-on plug that you'd normally use with stranded wire and just attach the Romex to it? Are there plugs made for solid wire?
>>>> 
>>>> I could always use the Romex to extend the circuit to near the carriage lights and install an outlet for the timer and buy short lamp cord, but that means a trip to the store. That might turn out to be the most time/cost/safety efficient method, but if I don't have to get into the car AGAIN...
>>>> 
>>>> thanks,
>>>> jim
>>>> 
>> 
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