[Shop-talk] Plumbing fun

[jamesf at groupwbench.org]

At least here in Boston, everyone is using crimp rings. No one is using 
the expansion rings anymore and they are getting increasingly difficult 
to find. I sold my expander to a guy who'd been looking all over for one 
as he had a stash of expansion rings.

I have used Sharkbite without issues, but the surface needs to be 
exceptionally smooth; hard to do if you have a solder drip or can't get 
in there with emery cloth to fully clean it up. .

jim

On 2019-08-01 15:52, Pat Horne via Shop-talk wrote:
> My understanding is that plumbers use the expansion method of
> termination because it is easier, faster & cheaper. They also don’t
> need to stock the crimp rings.
> 
> I plumbed my shop w/apartment (4 sinks, 1 shower, 1 tub, 1 washer, 2
> toilets & 2 hose bibs)using PEX & crimp rings. It was cheap & easy.
> That was a year ago & I have no leaks.
> 
> In my house I used some shark bite connectors on a copper pipe & it
> started leaking.
> 
> My use is just a single point but it worked fine for me.  YMMV
> 
> peace,
> Pat
> 
> Pat Horne
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> 
> On Aug 1, 2019, at 9:06 AM, Jim Juhas via Shop-talk
> <shop-talk at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I used PEX on my kitchen remodel in 2011. Maybe I didn't know any
> better but I used the crimp rings on hot and cold sides, run to the
> icemaker, feed to dishwasher. Everything is still intact. Only
> downside is that PEX under the sink isn't as pretty as copper.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 30, 2019, at 9:35 PM, Jim Stone via Shop-talk 
>> <shop-talk at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> The union in the photograph doesn’t look terrible to me.  I’ve 
>> certainly successfully worked with worse.  If only to buy you some 
>> time, it can’t hurt to wrap a couple of extra turns of teflon tape 
>> around the new fitting - or goober it up with pipe dope - and see if 
>> it works.
>> 
>> That isn’t to say that a re-plumb isn’t in your future. The clogged 
>> pipe looks pretty scary.  I haven’t worked much with PEX, but have 
>> watched plumbers using it and am pretty impressed.  None of the pros 
>> seem to use crimpers for their connections, and they tell me they 
>> don’t trust crimped connections.  They use something like this: 
>> https://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-2432-22-12-Volt-Propex-Expansion/dp/B0048EJX7U/ref=sr_1_1?crid=20YNES0KKJ2KB&keywords=milwaukee+pex+expander+tool&qid=1564536668&s=hi&sprefix=Milwaukee+pex%2Ctools%2C127&sr=1-1. 
>>  There are manual versions of this for sale, but I am sure this is the 
>> way to go if you are doing a fair amount of work.
>> 
>> I have also been told by professionals that Shark Bite fittings are 
>> really good.  They are expensive if you are doing a lot of work, but a 
>> good way connecting PEX to other forms of pipe.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2019, at 9:01 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Shop-talk 
>>> <shop-talk at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I cut out enough sheetrock to get some wrenching room, got the old 
>>> pipes out without too much trouble.  I sprayed a few of the joints 
>>> with WD40 a few times, maybe that helped, maybe it didn't.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So now the question is can I get the sealing face that rusty old 
>>> union cleaned up enough to get a good seal, or am I going to have to 
>>> replace it too, which might mean tearing into the wall in the next 
>>> room.  Or maybe not.
>>> 
>>> And then, this project has got me thinking.  It might be my cue to 
>>> buy a roll of PEX, a cutter and a crimper and start using it to fix 
>>> this problem and the next one on my list, the washing machine.  At 
>>> the moment when you select a hot water wash, the machine fills up at 
>>> a rate of about a gallon a day.  Is it just the fill hose being 
>>> clogged, or the valve, or the pipes feeding it?  Fun fun fun!
>>> 
>>> mjb.
>>> 
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