[Shop-talk] Tapeless Joint Compound?

[Jim Stone]

Thanks Brian and Peter.

Brian: my Googling also turned up the Euro Drywall Products website, but I
left it after I saw the part about having to buy a pallet.  I had missed the
links to dealers on the contact page, so thanks for that.  Unfortunately, none
of them are near me.  (BTW: the Michigan page includes a video of of the
product being demonstrated at a home show.  Unfortunately, the video is small
and hard to see.  Plus, the real issue is how long it lasts, which you
certainly can't tell from a one time demo.)  But, it is still an interesting
product.  I will probably keep my eyes open for it.

But, your comment about setting type compounds is interesting.  I have used
them before but thought they would require tape over a joint the same as
pre-mixed compound.  Are you saying they don't?  (One more thing for the
record: the ATI Tapeless Compound was pre-mixed.)

And, Peter: thanks for the liquid tape idea.  Unless Brian tells me that I
don't need tape with Durabond, I will give that a try.

Jim

> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:08:42 -0400
> From: pj_thomas at comcast.net
> To: jandkstone99 at msn.com
> CC: shop-talk at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Tapeless Joint Compound?
>
> On 6/1/2012 10:23 PM, Jim Stone wrote:
> > About 10 years ago I did some drywall repair for a friend of mine, fixing
a
> > spot where the original tape had come away from the wall, exposing the
joint
> > between the two sheets.  I wanted to use fresh tape and conventional
compound,
> > but he had a product called "ATI Tapeless Joint Compound" that he had
> > purchased at Home Depot for the job and wanted me to try.  I was skeptical
but
> > gave it a try.  10 years later the area still looks perfect.  I now need
to
> > repair an area around a light switch at my house and would love to use a
> > similar product to avoid the tape buildup under one side of the switch
plate.
> > I Googled the company (Applied Textures Inc) and the product but all I
can
> > find are old forum postings.  The company's website is no longer
functional,
> > so I assume they are out of business.  Has anyone heard of a similar
product?
> > I looked at Lowe's, Home Depot and Ace Hardware, but none of them carried
> > anything similar.
> >
> > Thanks.
> I've had great success using "liquid tape".  What I have done is cut a
> rectangular patch.  Used the patch to clean up the hole. Easier to fit
> the hole to the patch rather than the reverse.  Add blocking around the
> hole inside the wall using scrap pieces of wood.  Just hold the wood in
> place and drive screws through the original wall board.  Then attach the
> patch with wood screws.  Next I fill the crack with dry wall compound.
> Once dry, I sand the seam making sure to expose the paper skin on both
> the patch and the original wall board.  This leaves a band, about an
> inch wide, that is paper and a small amount of filler compound.  I then
> paint the band with "liquid tape" otherwise known as wood glue.  The
> glue soaks into the exposed paper and the compound crack fill and forms
> a really, really strong seamless skin.  After the glue is dried I do a
> quick sanding to remove any high spot (area with too much glue was
> applied).  Apply a quick coat of compound to level things out, sand, paint.
>
> Wood glue is stronger than wood or paper.  I find this holds up better
> than a taped patch and is dead flat.   I moved a light fixture and used
> this technique to path the wall.  Being adjacent to the light I can't
> see the patch.  I challenged my wife to find the patch and she
> couldn't.  Even holding a flash light at a sever angle which shows every
> taped seam and nail, the patch is invisible.
>
> Peter T.
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