From racegt6 at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 27 13:08:10 2012
From: racegt6 at yahoo.com (Charlie Schlismann)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:08:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Shop-talk] curtisbigdawg
Message-ID: <1330373290.43647.yint-ygo-j2me@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Wow, it was brilliant!
http://durai.zymichost.com/ownq.php?eqidpin=540

            Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:08:10
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"  So will it be with all undutiful children; when on their death-beds, they reflect on their disobedient and rebellious conduct toward the father and the mother to whom they owe their being" (c) kent wilson

From racegt6 at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 27 13:08:17 2012
From: racegt6 at yahoo.com (Charlie Schlismann)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:08:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Shop-talk] natalia.sol
Message-ID: <1330373297.58159.yint-ygo-j2me@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

My dear!
http://faceliftredondobeach.com/perq.php?fevlist=597

            Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:08:16
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"--Their social position" (c) taylen willhard

From shannahquilts at gmail.com  Mon Feb 27 13:14:00 2012
From: shannahquilts at gmail.com (Shannah Miller)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:14:00 -0800
Subject: [Shop-talk] natalia.sol
In-Reply-To: <1330373297.58159.yint-ygo-j2me@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1330373297.58159.yint-ygo-j2me@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAAy7z=2rdw90zSn8fOybfwzOdyL6c6rddhbrnkzmNGbiw0rr7w@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like someone has malware.

Shannah

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Charlie Schlismann <racegt6 at yahoo.com>
wrote:
> My dear!
> http://faceliftredondobeach.com/perq.php?fevlist=597
>
>            Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:08:16
> _________________________________
> "--Their social position" (c) taylen willhard
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From wmc_st at xxiii.com  Mon Feb 27 13:17:34 2012
From: wmc_st at xxiii.com (Wayne)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 15:17:34 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] curtisbigdawg
In-Reply-To: <1330373290.43647.yint-ygo-j2me@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1330373290.43647.yint-ygo-j2me@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4F4BE4DE.8050507@xxiii.com>

Charlie & recipients!  It looks like Charlie has gotten some virus on 
his PC sending this out.  Both messages triggered my ESET A-V right off. 
  Charlie -- it's possible they were sent from elsewhere forging your 
name, but you probably should unplug from the net till you can determine.
   -Wayne

On 2/27/2012 3:08 PM, Charlie Schlismann wrote:
> Wow, it was brilliant!
> http://durai.zymichost.com/##############

From dirtbeard at pacbell.net  Wed Feb 29 09:35:16 2012
From: dirtbeard at pacbell.net (old dirtbeard)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 08:35:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Shop-talk] mmajeus
Message-ID: <1330533316.68146.yint-ygo-j2me@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Get paid just for being connected to the Internet day or night
http://aestheticedge.com/madnecy.php?hamehotmailID=79

            Wed, 29 Feb 2012 17:35:15
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" When it came down on the head of a steel-clad knight on his horse, it broke through every thing, they said, and crushed man and horse both to the ground" (c) benjamin woodruff

From dirtbeard at pacbell.net  Wed Feb 29 09:34:34 2012
From: dirtbeard at pacbell.net (old dirtbeard)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 08:34:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Shop-talk] sarahpoku
Message-ID: <1330533274.43359.yint-ygo-j2me@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Business Opportunities - Start Your Own Business
http://weearehere.org/yndigosty.php?sepgoogleid=58



            Wed, 29 Feb 2012 17:34:33
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" Nor was Richard himself ready" (c) palatin aescwine

From rkg at teleport.com  Wed Feb 29 15:27:31 2012
From: rkg at teleport.com (Richard George)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:27:31 -0800
Subject: [Shop-talk] fan forced wall heaters - is there a noise comparison
	anywhere?
Message-ID: <4F4EA653.2050103@teleport.com>

Hi,

I'm in the process of buying a condo to use as a rental  - the unit has 
a lot of "issues", including a giant 8' electric baseboard heater that 
needs to be replaced (the unit isn't that big, and it eats up a big 
chunk of the wall in the living room area) - rather than burn the space 
along the wall, I was considering changing this to (a) forced fan wall 
heater(s) of some type.

That's where the fun begins - I've done a LOT of searching online, and 
there seems to be no comparisons of these units.  Does anybody
have much experience with these units?  is there any comparisons of 
these units out there that cover the "typical" stuff - reliability, fan 
noise, effectiveness, strengths/
weaknesses, etc?  Should I be looking at something completely different 
(within the constraint
that I gotta use electricity for the heat source)? I think I 'd need a 
2-3 KW unit to replace the baseboard heater, and might swap out another 
smaller one in the dining room, etc.

Thanks,

rkg
(Richard George)

From tputland at charter.net  Wed Feb 29 15:34:53 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 17:34:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Shop-talk] OT favor
Message-ID: <3eceec3c.129db.135cb40755b.Webtop.43@charter.net>

We ahve all seen the hijacked emails (be them direct hack, malware, 
spoof, or something else)  lately coming from members of this forum.

So, PLEASE, if  you seen that crap coming from my email adderss, in any 
shape or form, AGAIN PLEASE, let me know.

I try to make sure i am clean, but you never know if you are beign 
spoofed.

Thanks!!

tim

From rkg at teleport.com  Wed Feb 29 15:37:50 2012
From: rkg at teleport.com (Richard George)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:37:50 -0800
Subject: [Shop-talk] OK, so which saw should I get for use in rehab...
Message-ID: <4F4EA8BE.70308@teleport.com>

Hi again,

Back on the subject of the condo, I'm sorely lacking in power tools and 
for what needs to get done (rip up and replace some laminate flooring, 
redo a lot of the
base moulding, some other misc. work), and was trying to figure out what 
kind saw I should get - I've got all the usual suspects (hand saws, 
circular saw, several jigsaws, etc. but there seemed like there was 
enough work involved to justify getting something to do the mitering, 
cut laminate flooring, etc.  I was thinking either a small table saw or
one of those whizzy sliding compound miter saws

Which would you choose?

A related question is about horrible freight tools.  I see they have a 
sliding compound miter saw that they regularly put on sale cheap - had 
anybody had any
experience with these - are they worth a darn?

Thanks,

rkg
(Richard George)

From tputland at charter.net  Wed Feb 29 15:49:28 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 17:49:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Shop-talk] OK, so which saw should I get for use in  rehab...
Message-ID: <72a87355.12d0b.135cb4dced4.Webtop.43@charter.net>

Despite my lack of experience and knowledge, I can comment on the 
horriblefreight elcheapo miter saw....

It is ok. In our 110 year old craftsman house, I used it for a good 
sized job of miter cutting quarter round for my house and it was fine. I 
also used it for the 1x8" oak base board and it worked but the red oak 
was almost more than it could cut. I doubt this saw would last very long 
if I had to redo all the oak trim in the house.

I wish it had a laser guide. Spend the money for a miter saw with a 
laser guide.

Tim


On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Richard George wrote:

> Hi again,
>
> Back on the subject of the condo, I'm sorely lacking in power tools 
> and for what needs to get done (rip up and replace some laminate 
> flooring, redo a lot of the
> base moulding, some other misc. work), and was trying to figure out 
> what kind saw I should get - I've got all the usual suspects (hand 
> saws, circular saw, several jigsaws, etc. but there seemed like there 
> was enough work involved to justify getting something to do the 
> mitering, cut laminate flooring, etc.  I was thinking either a small 
> table saw or
> one of those whizzy sliding compound miter saws
>
> Which would you choose?
>
> A related question is about horrible freight tools.  I see they have a 
> sliding compound miter saw that they regularly put on sale cheap - had 
> anybody had any
> experience with these - are they worth a darn?
>
> Thanks,
>
> rkg
> (Richard George)
> _______________________________________________
>
> Shop-talk at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From mistertwo at sbcglobal.net  Wed Feb 29 17:30:19 2012
From: mistertwo at sbcglobal.net (Rand E)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 16:30:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Shop-talk] OK, so which saw should I get for use in  rehab...
In-Reply-To: <4F4EA8BE.70308@teleport.com>
References: <4F4EA8BE.70308@teleport.com>
Message-ID: <1330561819.35484.YahooMailNeo@web82404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

You might want to check out the Harborf Feight Pass/Fail thread at the Garage
Journal website. 
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27192
 
Randy
 


>________________________________
>From: Richard George
<rkg at teleport.com>
>To: shoptalk <shop-talk at autox.team.net> 
>Sent: Wednesday,
February 29, 2012 4:37 PM
>Subject: [Shop-talk] OK, so which saw should I get
for use in rehab...
>
>Hi again,
>
>Back on the subject of the condo, I'm
sorely lacking in power tools and for what needs to get done (rip up and
replace some laminate flooring, redo a lot of the
>base moulding, some other
misc. work), and was trying to figure out what kind saw I should get - I've
got all the usual suspects (hand saws, circular saw, several jigsaws, etc. but
there seemed like there was enough work involved to justify getting something
to do the mitering, cut laminate flooring, etc.  I was thinking either a small
table saw or
>one of those whizzy sliding compound miter saws
>
>Which would
you choose?
>
>A related question is about horrible freight tools.  I see they
have a sliding compound miter saw that they regularly put on sale cheap - had
anybody had any
>experience with these - are they worth a darn?
>
>Thanks,
>
>rkg
>(Richard George)
>_______________________________________________
>
>Shop-talk at autox.team.net
>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>Suggested
annual donation  $12.96
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http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mistertwo at sbcglobal.net

From peterwmurray at gmail.com  Wed Feb 29 17:40:08 2012
From: peterwmurray at gmail.com (Peter Murray)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 19:40:08 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] OT favor
In-Reply-To: <3eceec3c.129db.135cb40755b.Webtop.43@charter.net>
References: <3eceec3c.129db.135cb40755b.Webtop.43@charter.net>
Message-ID: <CAJ8HLP_Z8WbZPWaxiGUrGiCeHEENLQ_-ptDoRwWgnPXdoxd0Ag@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:
> We ahve all seen the hijacked emails (be them direct hack, malware,
> spoof, or something else)  lately coming from members of this forum.
>
> So, PLEASE, if  you seen that crap coming from my email adderss, in any
> shape or form, AGAIN PLEASE, let me know.

Often, the originating email address is spoofed, so it is not actually
coming from that user. In the 18 years I have had another email
address, I have had that address used several times as the sending
address for spam or malware, and it certainly is annoying! In any
case, you will certainly know when your address is being misused in
this fashion!

> I try to make sure i am clean, but you never know if you are beign spoofed.

Everybody, please practice safe computing! Learn to use Linux, or buy a Mac!
;)

> Thanks!!
>
> tim

-Peter

From pj_mcgarvey at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 29 18:08:26 2012
From: pj_mcgarvey at hotmail.com (PJ McGarvey)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:08:26 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] OT favor
In-Reply-To: <CAJ8HLP_Z8WbZPWaxiGUrGiCeHEENLQ_-ptDoRwWgnPXdoxd0Ag@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3eceec3c.129db.135cb40755b.Webtop.43@charter.net>,
	<CAJ8HLP_Z8WbZPWaxiGUrGiCeHEENLQ_-ptDoRwWgnPXdoxd0Ag@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT127-W63010117ED4AE6EA4578E89A6C0@phx.gbl>

I've run into this in my job and with a friend recently, but I'm not sure
exactly how the attack is done.  Either the email is sent from the person's
email account itself which appears to get hijacked temporarily and is then
sent to a number of contacts in the user's address book, or the attack is just
stealing the contact list and then sending the email with the sender being
spoofed.  Either way it gets the recipients to trust what they are being sent
and more likely to open links.
Given the number of various web application vulnerabilities out there, either
is quite possible, but the common link in my experience seems to be Facebook
and it's clueless users (my friend included).  Having your webmail open and
authenticated while you're logged into Facebook and clicking on something
malicious is one way it could be done.
PJ

> Often, the originating email address is spoofed, so it is not actually
> coming from that user. In the 18 years I have had another email
> address, I have had that address used several times as the sending
> address for spam or malware, and it certainly is annoying! In any
> case, you will certainly know when your address is being misused in
> this fashion!

From doug at dougbraun.com  Wed Feb 29 18:11:01 2012
From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:11:01 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] OK, so which saw should I get for use in  rehab...
In-Reply-To: <4F4EA8BE.70308@teleport.com>
References: <4F4EA8BE.70308@teleport.com>
Message-ID: <CAOtbU9X2Qtk0MQEwaH+jEKdoL3Hkvfrb_4GsiLhjUtyCNS7XxA@mail.gmail.com>

I have a DeWalt 10" compound miter saw (from HF).  I got it maybe 7
years ago and it has given me total satisfaction.  It is well-made and
sturdy.  I have it mounted on a Ridgid "Saw Utility Vehicle", which is
a handy folding stand.  The stand is also very sturdy (would work fine
for a larger saw), but a bit heavy.

Doug

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Richard George <rkg at teleport.com> wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> Back on the subject of the condo, I'm sorely lacking in power tools and for
> what needs to get done (rip up and replace some laminate flooring, redo a
> lot of the
> base moulding, some other misc. work), and was trying to figure out what
> kind saw I should get - I've got all the usual suspects (hand saws,
circular
> saw, several jigsaws, etc. but there seemed like there was enough work
> involved to justify getting something to do the mitering, cut laminate
> flooring, etc.  I was thinking either a small table saw or
> one of those whizzy sliding compound miter saws
>
> Which would you choose?

From mark at bradakis.com  Wed Feb 29 20:21:55 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:21:55 -0700
Subject: [Shop-talk] [Roadsters] OT favor
In-Reply-To: <3eceec3c.129db.135cb40755b.Webtop.43@charter.net>
References: <3eceec3c.129db.135cb40755b.Webtop.43@charter.net>
Message-ID: <4F4EEB53.2050707@bradakis.com>

Hopefully when I get the current crop of Team.Net problems
resolved I can spend some time on better filtering of incoming
mail.  It would be nice to be able to at least not have hijacked
mail sent out to the lists.

mjb.