<< Well, maybe you had to be there ... >> Randall, I was [/am <G>] and since yer 'professing' to have been, at LEAST you SHOULD "get it right !!!! << Dave's not here! >> It's: "Dave ain't here, man." Geesh !! <VBEG> !! Ed PS: And the BEST way to listen to their records is/was with headphones [Koss Pro 4As being the best <G>] !!!