[Shop-talk] Nova - PBS show

[Bill Gingerich]

Nolan,

Well, shesh to you too! ;-)

Just a couple of comments, and then we can let this thread die.  

First, I read your original BS message when I was in a rather bad mood.  I
should have waited until later to respond, but I didn't.  I'll take
responsibility for that.  I also wrote that response prior to reading your
second message with all of the clarification in it.  I should have finished
reading all of my email before responding.  Again, my fault.  

It wasn't clear to me that it was the information you were calling BS.  And
no, you didn't call me a liar.  That came from my interpretation of your
statements.  I'm not sure where you got the idea that I though you said I
couldn't read.  What I was trying to say was that I was smart enough to
understand the article I was referring to in my original post.

This whole thing seems to come down to the "fact" that both of us have
misunderstood what the other has written.  This isn't the first time I've
misinterpreted something, and I'm sure it won't be the last.  Most of us do
it with more regularity than we'd like.  Such is life.

Here's to clearer communication in the future.

BillG
Newalla, OK

    

-----Original Message-----
From: Nolan [mailto:opposumking at verizon.net] 
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:34 PM
To: Bill Gingerich; shop-talk at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Nova - PBS show

Shesh,

I never called you a liar Bill, and I never said you can't read.  I called 
BS on the information itself.  I'm sorry you feel it was a personal attack, 
it wasn't.

My sources I already elaborated on previously.  Oklahoma laws, etc.  Read 
what I wrote, I spelled it out.  And if you would kindly read what I wrote, 
you'd notice I thanked Randal for finding the proper law citation.  In fact,

you might even notice that I immediately went from calling BS to completely 
acknowledging that the law exists.  Enough to make it seem that I, er, 
changed my mind.  ;-)

Like I said in the message that you apparently didn't read, while I'm sure 
the law is real (it is), it doesn't appear to be enforced.  I found electric

vehicle clubs in Oklahoma, and nary a mention of this with their converted 
cars.  Not one of them showing the windshield sticker the law requires.  I 
found alternative fuel vehicles in Oklahoma, same thing.  I found companies 
in Oklahoma making EV's and various conversions, with no mention of this 
law, and not a single windshield sticker on any of the vehicles shown.

I'm sorry you got so bent out of shape and feel so personally attacked.  You

weren't.  I doubted the accuracy of the story (heavens, to think I would 
ever doubt a news story or something someone said on the internet!) after 
being unable to find any substantiation of it on my own.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Gingerich" <bill at gingerich.us>
To: "'Nolan'" <opposumking at verizon.net>; <shop-talk at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:25 PM
Subject: RE: [Shop-talk] Nova - PBS show


> Nolan,
>
> You can call it BS if you like, but I stand by my statements.  I'd be
> interested in reading what you found.  There was an article in one of the
> local papers in OKC.  It did state what I said, and had an interview with
> the author of the law.  Unfortunately, I took the recycling to the drop 
> off
> site on Tuesday, and that paper was in the pile.  I know this message 
> won't
> change your mind, but I am smart enough to know what I read.