From smokey at railops.com  Sat Aug 19 10:17:49 2023
From: smokey at railops.com (smokey)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2023 11:17:49 -0500
Subject: [Oletrucks] Question
Message-ID: <b28ef6e7-d784-48a2-ae38-52bc6a503e4b@edison>

 
 
 
My 1950 3600 has a 1957 235 engine.    I have aftermarket disc brakes.    Every time I step on the brake the engine dies.    So far 2 mechanics have no idea what's happening here.    Any advice?
 

 
Thanks!
 

 
Smokey
 
League City TX
 

 

 

 
 
 
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From bill_hanlon at comcast.net  Sat Aug 19 12:01:11 2023
From: bill_hanlon at comcast.net (Bill Hanlon)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2023 13:01:11 -0500
Subject: [Oletrucks] Question
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Sound to me like you have an air leak in the brake booster.  If you have a vacuum gauge, connect it to manifold vacuum, start the engine, note the gauge reading, press the brake pedal slowly while watching the gauge.  It should stay pretty much the same.  If it starts dropping before the engine stalls you?ve found the culprit.

 

Did you ever get your dim headlight problem solved?  

 

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Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2023 11:18 AM
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Subject: [Oletrucks] Question

 

My 1950 3600 has a 1957 235 engine.  I have aftermarket disc brakes.  Every time I step on the brake the engine dies.  So far 2 mechanics have no idea what's happening here.  Any advice?

 

Thanks!

 

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League City TX

 

 

 


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From kinderlehrer at comcast.net  Sat Aug 19 13:09:38 2023
From: kinderlehrer at comcast.net (Kinderlehrer)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2023 12:09:38 -0700
Subject: [Oletrucks] Question
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You have to step on the clutch when you stop. Just kidding. 

Is there a power assist on the brakes? If so, a problem with that sucking up vacuum could cause the issue you describe.

 

Bob

 

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Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2023 9:18 AM
To: oletrucks
Subject: [Oletrucks] Question

 

My 1950 3600 has a 1957 235 engine.  I have aftermarket disc brakes.  Every time I step on the brake the engine dies.  So far 2 mechanics have no idea what's happening here.  Any advice?

 

Thanks!

 

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League City TX

 

 

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From miq at bigllama.com  Sat Aug 19 13:17:48 2023
From: miq at bigllama.com (MIQ MILLMAN)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2023 12:17:48 -0700
Subject: [Oletrucks] Question
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The 235 I6 uses vacuum to control the advance of timing.

The brakes use vacuum to assist the power booster for the master cylinder.

(check out this video for an explanation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LThrL8Jjsgc&)

My guess is to look at the vacuum lines and make sure that they are plumbed
in the correct circuit, and that there is not a corresponding reduction in
vacuum on the timing advance when the brake booster gets used.

What I did to solve this was go to dual carbs and have the brake booster
running off the rear carb, and timing off the front carb.  (I recall I did
this when I put on the split fenton headers and changed to a water
cooled/heated intake--but that truck is now with a new owner 1200 miles
away so I can't check it for you).


  --Miq
On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 9:27?AM smokey <smokey at railops.com> wrote:

> My 1950 3600 has a 1957 235 engine.  I have aftermarket disc brakes.
> Every time I step on the brake the engine dies.  So far 2 mechanics have no
> idea what's happening here.  Any advice?
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From truxrme at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 19 13:47:45 2023
From: truxrme at hotmail.com (Old Chevy Pickup Shawn)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2023 19:47:45 +0000
Subject: [Oletrucks] Question
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If the torque converter is broken, or if there is a low fluid level in the transmission, the converter will not do its job, and the car will be unable to maintain power at low speeds, which causes the engine to shut off.

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Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2023 9:17:49 AM
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Subject: [Oletrucks] Question

My 1950 3600 has a 1957 235 engine.  I have aftermarket disc brakes.  Every time I step on the brake the engine dies.  So far 2 mechanics have no idea what's happening here.  Any advice?

Thanks!

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League City TX


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From truxrme at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 19 13:48:20 2023
From: truxrme at hotmail.com (Old Chevy Pickup Shawn)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2023 19:48:20 +0000
Subject: [Oletrucks] Question
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If the torque converter is broken, or if there is a low fluid level in the transmission, the converter will not do its job, and the car will be unable to maintain power at low speeds, which causes the engine to shut off.

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Subject: Re: [Oletrucks] Question

If the torque converter is broken, or if there is a low fluid level in the transmission, the converter will not do its job, and the car will be unable to maintain power at low speeds, which causes the engine to shut off.

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Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2023 9:17:49 AM
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Subject: [Oletrucks] Question

My 1950 3600 has a 1957 235 engine.  I have aftermarket disc brakes.  Every time I step on the brake the engine dies.  So far 2 mechanics have no idea what's happening here.  Any advice?

Thanks!

Smokey
League City TX


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From truxrme at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 19 13:49:12 2023
From: truxrme at hotmail.com (Old Chevy Pickup Shawn)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2023 19:49:12 +0000
Subject: [Oletrucks] Question
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If the torque converter is broken, or if there is a low fluid level in the transmission, the converter will not do its job, and the car will be unable to maintain power at low speeds, which causes the engine to shut off.

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Subject: Re: [Oletrucks] Question

If the torque converter is broken, or if there is a low fluid level in the transmission, the converter will not do its job, and the car will be unable to maintain power at low speeds, which causes the engine to shut off.

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Subject: Re: [Oletrucks] Question

If the torque converter is broken, or if there is a low fluid level in the transmission, the converter will not do its job, and the car will be unable to maintain power at low speeds, which causes the engine to shut off.

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Subject: [Oletrucks] Question

My 1950 3600 has a 1957 235 engine.  I have aftermarket disc brakes.  Every time I step on the brake the engine dies.  So far 2 mechanics have no idea what's happening here.  Any advice?

Thanks!

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League City TX


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From truxrme at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 19 13:51:17 2023
From: truxrme at hotmail.com (Old Chevy Pickup Shawn)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2023 19:51:17 +0000
Subject: [Oletrucks] Question
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If the torque converter is broken, or if there is a low fluid level in the transmission, the converter will not do its job, and the car will be unable to maintain power at low speeds, which causes the engine to shut off.

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If the torque converter is broken, or if there is a low fluid level in the transmission, the converter will not do its job, and the car will be unable to maintain power at low speeds, which causes the engine to shut off.

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Subject: Re: [Oletrucks] Question

If the torque converter is broken, or if there is a low fluid level in the transmission, the converter will not do its job, and the car will be unable to maintain power at low speeds, which causes the engine to shut off.

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Subject: Re: [Oletrucks] Question

If the torque converter is broken, or if there is a low fluid level in the transmission, the converter will not do its job, and the car will be unable to maintain power at low speeds, which causes the engine to shut off.

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Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2023 9:17:49 AM
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Subject: [Oletrucks] Question

My 1950 3600 has a 1957 235 engine.  I have aftermarket disc brakes.  Every time I step on the brake the engine dies.  So far 2 mechanics have no idea what's happening here.  Any advice?

Thanks!

Smokey
League City TX


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From bill_hanlon at comcast.net  Sat Aug 19 22:30:40 2023
From: bill_hanlon at comcast.net (Bill Hanlon)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2023 23:30:40 -0500
Subject: [Oletrucks] Question
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One thing Smokey.  I assumed that this problem did not occur when the brake system was first installed and that it occurred after some period of time.  Is that correct?  

 

The last time I saw your truck (I think it was at the Conroe swap meet, maybe 10-20 years ago) I think it had a standard transmission.  Does it still?

 

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To: 'smokey' <smokey at railops.com>; 'oletrucks' <oletrucks at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Oletrucks] Question

 

Sound to me like you have an air leak in the brake booster.  If you have a vacuum gauge, connect it to manifold vacuum, start the engine, note the gauge reading, press the brake pedal slowly while watching the gauge.  It should stay pretty much the same.  If it starts dropping before the engine stalls you?ve found the culprit.

 

Did you ever get your dim headlight problem solved?  

 

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Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2023 11:18 AM
To: oletrucks <oletrucks at autox.team.net <mailto:oletrucks at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [Oletrucks] Question

 

My 1950 3600 has a 1957 235 engine.  I have aftermarket disc brakes.  Every time I step on the brake the engine dies.  So far 2 mechanics have no idea what's happening here.  Any advice?

 

Thanks!

 

Smokey

League City TX

 

 

 


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