[NOBBC] [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net

Tue Oct 11 23:30:38 MDT 2011

I agree Greg.
Everybody appreciates your efforts.  Keep it up.
Clif & Deborah

-----Original Message----- 
From: Daniel Drummond
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:38 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net

Greg,

Rest assured your efforts are recognized and appreciated.  Don't be put off 
by a few ill-informed comments.  Keep your eye on the ball and ignore the 
detractors.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On 
Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:06 AM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net

Hi Dean,

Good points about Mark, thanks. You're right, this is supposed to be a fun 
club, which is why I sent an earlier email about how to use this forum in a 
responsible way. My comments on trying to communicate with Mark should not 
be lumped with the other comments about other topics by other members 
recently.

I am also unpaid for my volunteer efforts, yet have spent about 45 hours 
since Ron's passing (while also running my business), working on all of the 
administrative issues for the club, along with helping Ron's widow get his 
car running and sold and trying to help connect her with helpful resources. 
I've also held club parties and tech sessions at my house and elsewhere, and 
led numerous drives, all as a volunteer member of the club, which I think 
shows I have invested a lot in the NOBBC over the past 6-7 years.

The club now has about 140 members, with this being the main way to 
communicate among ourselves. I don't think Ron wanted the club to die with 
him, but access to most of our resources have suffered as a result.
We still have a web site we have little control over, an email forum with no 
moderator control, and a Facebook account with no moderator control. It's 
easier to just let things flow when there are 20-30 members but now that 
there is a web presence, social networking, and all of this with no way for 
me, also an unpaid volunteer, to handle the duties, you might be able to 
understand my frustration at Mark not responding to 7 or 8 very friendly, 
very polite emails.

I have also asked you previously for the information on the club web hosting 
service that you so generously pay for (and I regularly remind members about 
your ongoing contribution, Dean) since Tcherek is ready to pass on the web 
mistress job. Would it be possible to get that information from you so that 
we can make that transition? Tcherek has done a very kind service for free 
for our club over the years, but is ready to hand it over. Better yet, could 
you notify the web hosting service that the password has been lost and 
establish a new one so we can edit the web site?

It would be great to keep our email forum with Mark, because it's 
text-based, simple, and free, and would make my life easier, if we can make 
it work. I'm just trying to help, Dean, and not slamming anyone. I asked you 
in the very beginning if you objected to my stepping in to take over these 
duties, and you didn't indicate you had a problem with it, but if you do, 
please let me know before I spend more of my time if you would prefer 
yourself or someone else do this work.

Greg

On 10/10/2011 8:49 PM, D Paige wrote:
> Keep in mind all of you that Mark has kept groups going on at least 20
> years that support British cars of many stripes and types and Marquea.
> He makes no $$$ on his efforts and at least from my point of view the
> lists he supports are a valuable source for all of our cars. If you
> haven't logged into the group for your Marque you are missing a great
> asset. I send some $$ every year and will continue to. Marc does have
> to make a living like all of us and he does the LBCs marques a great
> service. I think that Ron is turning in his grave over the carping over 
> the small stuff.
>
> The grousing over the past weeks on a couple of minor issues has
> disturbed me as a founding member of NOBBC with many of you being
> downright nasty the small stuff. That does not bode well. Get a grip
> folks this is supposed to be fun. Don't throw out the baby with the 
> bathwater. CHILL!!!
>
> Deano
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