From inim_mini at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  1 01:02:35 2011
From: inim_mini at yahoo.com (Rick Anderson)
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 00:02:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] MG car show!
In-Reply-To: <20111001040753.54B1EAE696@mail.dsl.napanet.net>
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 I am the owner of the MG 1100.  It was a great show!  Thanks for posting the
photos. Here is a link to some more photos:  www.LittleBritishCar.org



--- On Fri, 9/30/11, Don <don at napanet.net> wrote:

From: Don <don at napanet.net>
Subject: [Nobbc] MG car show!
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Date: Friday, September 30, 2011, 9:07 PM

I visited the MG Fall Festival at the Sheraton Hotel in Petaluma today.  As
usual, I was driving a Japanese vehicle; this time my Mazda pickup as I had
errands to run to get building supplies to prepare for the rainstorms coming
next week.  If everyone drove a Japanese car to these events they would not
quite work.

Anyway, there were some beautiful cars there.  My favourite was the red 1962
MGA Mk 2 roadster that belongs to Chrisula Asimos.  She bought the car new! 
What a vibrant and lively woman she is.  I can't imagine what she must have
been like back in '62 when she bought that car.  The MGA is pretty much
original other than a repaint years ago.  She said the worst mechanical issue
was a blown headgasket on the Bay Bridge years ago which led to her having the
engine partially rebuilt.  The original grey top and sidecurtains with grey
vinyl still are on the car.  The seats, though worn, are also original.  The
photo I took of the interior did not come out very well.  The one of the car's
engine bay shows the patina of the nearly 50 years of its life.  Chrisula was
kind enough to pose in front of her MGA for the photo of the exterior of her
car.  She was also kind enough to laugh at my joke- an MG gal was walking
briskly among the cars announcing
 that a pair of bifocals had been found and she was seeking their owner.  I
commented to Chrisula that the bifocals could belong to anyone at the car
show.

Andy Preston had two of his four MGs at the show.  His red MGA coupe is
gorgeous and is a real work of art as he did most all the work himself on the
car.  His cars are so impressive, and his enthusiasm for MGs has inspired me
at times when I think of other hobbies to pursue.  Great guy he is.

There were more TFs than TDs, which defies logic considering how few TFs were
made, and how few remain.  There was a cream coloured one which I photographed
that was stunning.  The owner had just had the car restored, and the detailing
was phenomenal.  Even the lining of the little tool box in front of the
firewall was there, and intact.  It had a valve cover that I had not seen
before with a complex filler on the rear.  I learned that it was a TC item
which was sought by later T-series owners as it was such an art piece.  The
owner started up the engine and told me it had been rebuilt and balanced.  It
sure ran well.  I must say, this car gave me an inferiority complex as I own a
similar car with the same colour scheme.  Until I saw this TF, I thought mine
was as nice as they got.

I saw Jim Legg of Napa, who had sold me an MGB radio years ago.  He drove his
MGB that tows a trailer made of a severed MGB's hindquarters.  Jim is very
dedicated to his MGs, and has two MGBs.

One of the more  unusual MGs at the show was a "tubbed" MGA roadster powered
by a massive chromed and blown V8.  I noticed that the car's grille was from a
'62 Mk 2 and the taillights from a 1600.  No originality/concours prize for
him!

The other odd MG was a GT that had been converted to a roadster-pickup truck. 
The owner had done a lot of beautiful woodwork to it, and I was impressed how
pretty the car looked.  The owner's wife told me that her husband had started
with a parts car that ran so well he couldn't just discard it, so made it into
a custom.  She placed their little pet dog in its special doggy seat for me to
include in my photograph of the car.

There was a dearth of  MG sedans.  Only one I saw was an MG 1100.  It was very
well preserved, and wore it's original tartan red paint.  I always thought
only MGBs were tartan red.  This has got to be one of a handful of 1100s left
in the world.

My photos:

https://picasaweb.google.com/104973305347633073496/September302011?authkey=Gv
1sRgCIGxsaijrPb8XA


Website for the show:

http://mgfallfestival.com/i
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From andrewdoran at berkeley.edu  Sat Oct  1 07:24:07 2011
From: andrewdoran at berkeley.edu (Andrew S. Doran)
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 06:24:07 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] ride next saturday
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Anyone know of a good upholsterer that can put my new door panels and
crash pad on my spitfire? Love to have this done before the ride next Sat.

Best,

Andrew
79 Spitfire, Richmond

From markdarley at mac.com  Sat Oct  1 09:00:31 2011
From: markdarley at mac.com (MARK DARLEY)
Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2011 08:00:31 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MG car show!
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Don,

Thanks for the write up and photos. Unfortunately I am tied up again this
weekend in Inverness and Mill Valley. I see there is mention of coming down to
Muir Woods.

Where will you be driving you be driving today and Sunday? Maybe I can
intercept you somewhere.

Mark Darley
'57 Tyrolite Green 1500 Roadster

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 30, 2011, at 9:07 PM, Don <don at napanet.net> wrote:

> I visited the MG Fall Festival at the Sheraton Hotel in Petaluma today.  As
usual, I was driving a Japanese vehicle; this time my Mazda pickup as I had
errands to run to get building supplies to prepare for the rainstorms coming
next week.  If everyone drove a Japanese car to these events they would not
quite work.
>
> Anyway, there were some beautiful cars there.  My favourite was the red 1962
MGA Mk 2 roadster that belongs to Chrisula Asimos.  She bought the car new!
What a vibrant and lively woman she is.  I can't imagine what she must have
been like back in '62 when she bought that car.  The MGA is pretty much
original other than a repaint years ago.  She said the worst mechanical issue
was a blown headgasket on the Bay Bridge years ago which led to her having the
engine partially rebuilt.  The original grey top and sidecurtains with grey
vinyl still are on the car.  The seats, though worn, are also original.  The
photo I took of the interior did not come out very well.  The one of the car's
engine bay shows the patina of the nearly 50 years of its life.  Chrisula was
kind enough to pose in front of her MGA for the photo of the exterior of her
car.  She was also kind enough to laugh at my joke- an MG gal was walking
briskly among the cars announcing that a pair of bifocals had been found and
she was seeking their owner.  I commented to Chrisula that the bifocals could
belong to anyone at the car show.
>
> Andy Preston had two of his four MGs at the show.  His red MGA coupe is
gorgeous and is a real work of art as he did most all the work himself on the
car.  His cars are so impressive, and his enthusiasm for MGs has inspired me
at times when I think of other hobbies to pursue.  Great guy he is.
>
> There were more TFs than TDs, which defies logic considering how few TFs
were made, and how few remain.  There was a cream coloured one which I
photographed that was stunning.  The owner had just had the car restored, and
the detailing was phenomenal.  Even the lining of the little tool box in front
of the firewall was there, and intact.  It had a valve cover that I had not
seen before with a complex filler on the rear.  I learned that it was a TC
item which was sought by later T-series owners as it was such an art piece.
The owner started up the engine and told me it had been rebuilt and balanced.
It sure ran well.  I must say, this car gave me an inferiority complex as I
own a similar car with the same colour scheme.  Until I saw this TF, I thought
mine was as nice as they got.
>
> I saw Jim Legg of Napa, who had sold me an MGB radio years ago.  He drove
his MGB that tows a trailer made of a severed MGB's hindquarters.  Jim is very
dedicated to his MGs, and has two MGBs.
>
> One of the more  unusual MGs at the show was a "tubbed" MGA roadster powered
by a massive chromed and blown V8.  I noticed that the car's grille was from a
'62 Mk 2 and the taillights from a 1600.  No originality/concours prize for
him!
>
> The other odd MG was a GT that had been converted to a roadster-pickup
truck.  The owner had done a lot of beautiful woodwork to it, and I was
impressed how pretty the car looked.  The owner's wife told me that her
husband had started with a parts car that ran so well he couldn't just discard
it, so made it into a custom.  She placed their little pet dog in its special
doggy seat for me to include in my photograph of the car.
>
> There was a dearth of  MG sedans.  Only one I saw was an MG 1100.  It was
very well preserved, and wore it's original tartan red paint.  I always
thought only MGBs were tartan red.  This has got to be one of a handful of
1100s left in the world.
>
> My photos:
>
>
https://picasaweb.google.com/104973305347633073496/September302011?authkey=Gv
1sRgCIGxsaijrPb8XA
>
>
> Website for the show:
>
> http://mgfallfestival.com/i
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From bettymiller at cds1.net  Sat Oct  1 12:17:55 2011
From: bettymiller at cds1.net (Betty Miller)
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 11:17:55 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] ride next saturday
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I highly recommend:
Ryan Nelson
Pacific Coast Custom Interiors
Santa Rosa
707-799-2995

Very reasonable prices.  Ryan just replace my seats & panels for my '48 TC.
Betty

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 6:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [Nobbc] ride next saturday

Anyone know of a good upholsterer that can put my new door panels and crash
pad on my spitfire? Love to have this done before the ride next Sat.

Best,

Andrew
79 Spitfire, Richmond
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Sat Oct  1 13:45:16 2011
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (JOHN KENNER)
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 12:45:16 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] ride next saturday
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MG Upholstery in Santa Rosa

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 OFFICE
415 806 2457 CELL



-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Andrew S. Doran
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 6:24 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] ride next saturday

Anyone know of a good upholsterer that can put my new door panels and crash
pad on my spitfire? Love to have this done before the ride next Sat.

Best,

Andrew
79 Spitfire, Richmond
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Sun Oct  2 07:36:01 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 06:36:01 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Ron's car has a new home
Message-ID: <4E8868C1.2040401@gmail.com>

Hi Folks,

Just a quick note to let you know that Candy has sold Ron's car to our 
own MG twins - Sheryl and Dennis. Two other members had expressed 
interest in the car and I put them in touch with Candy, but it looks 
like Sheryl and Dennis got it first, and I know Candy is very happy that 
the car will stay in the NOBBC family.

A big thank you to Sarto, John, Tim and Clif for helping me get Ron's 
car tidied up, all of the parts pulled together and inventoried, and 
most of all, giving comfort and kindness to Candy. Thanks also to those 
of you who offered your help but were not able to join us on Friday.

See you soon,

Greg

From jkenner at tamcab.com  Sun Oct  2 10:32:41 2011
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (JOHN KENNER)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 09:32:41 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Ron's car has a new home
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THAT IS GREAT NEWS!!!!!

Now Sheryl and Dennis owe us a wax job on our cars!!!!!!

Now S & D are double MG twins!!!

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 OFFICE
415 806 2457 CELL



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 6:36 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] Ron's car has a new home

Hi Folks,

Just a quick note to let you know that Candy has sold Ron's car to our 
own MG twins - Sheryl and Dennis. Two other members had expressed 
interest in the car and I put them in touch with Candy, but it looks 
like Sheryl and Dennis got it first, and I know Candy is very happy that 
the car will stay in the NOBBC family.

A big thank you to Sarto, John, Tim and Clif for helping me get Ron's 
car tidied up, all of the parts pulled together and inventoried, and 
most of all, giving comfort and kindness to Candy. Thanks also to those 
of you who offered your help but were not able to join us on Friday.

See you soon,

Greg
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From wbain at sonic.net  Sun Oct  2 12:26:14 2011
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 11:26:14 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Ron's car has a new home
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	<000301cc8120$e8c84f80$ba58ee80$@TAMCAB.COM>
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That's GREAT!! I think Sheryl and Dennis are trying to corner the MG  
market!!!

Cheers,

Wendell

On Oct 2, 2011, at 9:32 AM, JOHN KENNER wrote:

> THAT IS GREAT NEWS!!!!!
>
> Now Sheryl and Dennis owe us a wax job on our cars!!!!!!
>
> Now S & D are double MG twins!!!
>
> JOHN KENNER
>
> 510 231 6803 OFFICE
> 415 806 2457 CELL
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- 
> bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 6:36 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: [Nobbc] Ron's car has a new home
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> Just a quick note to let you know that Candy has sold Ron's car to our
> own MG twins - Sheryl and Dennis. Two other members had expressed
> interest in the car and I put them in touch with Candy, but it looks
> like Sheryl and Dennis got it first, and I know Candy is very happy  
> that
> the car will stay in the NOBBC family.
>
> A big thank you to Sarto, John, Tim and Clif for helping me get Ron's
> car tidied up, all of the parts pulled together and inventoried, and
> most of all, giving comfort and kindness to Candy. Thanks also to  
> those
> of you who offered your help but were not able to join us on Friday.
>
> See you soon,
>
> Greg
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From mvg1 at att.net  Sun Oct  2 12:29:02 2011
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 11:29:02 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Ron's car has a new home
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Message-ID: <A7A50407B8554FA0A5EC00AC75C336CF@mike>

BRAVO SHERYL AND DENNIS.

I will look forwad to seeing the two you in your new LBC on future rides.

Michael Gianandrea
64 TR4

----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 6:36 AM
Subject: [Nobbc] Ron's car has a new home


> Hi Folks,
>
> Just a quick note to let you know that Candy has sold Ron's car to our own 
> MG twins - Sheryl and Dennis. Two other members had expressed interest in 
> the car and I put them in touch with Candy, but it looks like Sheryl and 
> Dennis got it first, and I know Candy is very happy that the car will stay 
> in the NOBBC family.
>
> A big thank you to Sarto, John, Tim and Clif for helping me get Ron's car 
> tidied up, all of the parts pulled together and inventoried, and most of 
> all, giving comfort and kindness to Candy. Thanks also to those of you who 
> offered your help but were not able to join us on Friday.
>
> See you soon,
>
> Greg
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From markdarley at mac.com  Sun Oct  2 21:25:56 2011
From: markdarley at mac.com (MARK DARLEY)
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 20:25:56 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Ron's car has a new home
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Sheryl and Dennis,

Welcome to the wonderful world of MGAs!
Mark
'57 Tyrolite green MGA

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 2, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net> wrote:

> BRAVO SHERYL AND DENNIS.
> 
> I will look forwad to seeing the two you in your new LBC on future rides.
> 
> Michael Gianandrea
> 64 TR4
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Tatarian" <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 6:36 AM
> Subject: [Nobbc] Ron's car has a new home
> 
> 
>> Hi Folks,
>> 
>> Just a quick note to let you know that Candy has sold Ron's car to our own MG twins - Sheryl and Dennis. Two other members had expressed interest in the car and I put them in touch with Candy, but it looks like Sheryl and Dennis got it first, and I know Candy is very happy that the car will stay in the NOBBC family.
>> 
>> A big thank you to Sarto, John, Tim and Clif for helping me get Ron's car tidied up, all of the parts pulled together and inventoried, and most of all, giving comfort and kindness to Candy. Thanks also to those of you who offered your help but were not able to join us on Friday.
>> 
>> See you soon,
>> 
>> Greg
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From wkilch at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct  3 16:00:45 2011
From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (wkilch at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 22:00:45 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] Ron's car has a new home
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I thought real hard........and I couldn't think of any better place for Ron's MGA to go. 

Congratulations, that is AWESOME!

Walter
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
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Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 06:36:01 
To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
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Subject: [Nobbc] Ron's car has a new home

Hi Folks,

Just a quick note to let you know that Candy has sold Ron's car to our 
own MG twins - Sheryl and Dennis. Two other members had expressed 
interest in the car and I put them in touch with Candy, but it looks 
like Sheryl and Dennis got it first, and I know Candy is very happy that 
the car will stay in the NOBBC family.

A big thank you to Sarto, John, Tim and Clif for helping me get Ron's 
car tidied up, all of the parts pulled together and inventoried, and 
most of all, giving comfort and kindness to Candy. Thanks also to those 
of you who offered your help but were not able to join us on Friday.

See you soon,

Greg
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Mon Oct  3 19:26:04 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (CLIF&DEB)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:26:04 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Ron's car has a new home
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	<20111003234025.CC1BC187984@autox.team.net>
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Wax jobs around for the crew!
Clif and Deb

Sent from my iPod

On Oct 3, 2011, at 3:00 PM, wkilch at sbcglobal.net wrote:

> I thought real hard........and I couldn't think of any better place for
Ron's MGA to go.
>
> Congratulations, that is AWESOME!
>
> Walter
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
> Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 06:36:01
> To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Nobbc] Ron's car has a new home
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> Just a quick note to let you know that Candy has sold Ron's car to our
> own MG twins - Sheryl and Dennis. Two other members had expressed
> interest in the car and I put them in touch with Candy, but it looks
> like Sheryl and Dennis got it first, and I know Candy is very happy that
> the car will stay in the NOBBC family.
>
> A big thank you to Sarto, John, Tim and Clif for helping me get Ron's
> car tidied up, all of the parts pulled together and inventoried, and
> most of all, giving comfort and kindness to Candy. Thanks also to those
> of you who offered your help but were not able to join us on Friday.
>
> See you soon,
>
> Greg
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Tue Oct  4 07:14:19 2011
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (JOHN KENNER)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 06:14:19 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] winter rides
Message-ID: <001001cc8297$87e1b350$97a519f0$@TAMCAB.COM>

Hey British Car Fans,

 

Traditionally we cut back to 1 ride per month in the Winter.

It's been the 4th Saturday of the month in the past.

 

I am assuming we want to continue this starting in November. If not, chime
in.

 

Anyway, with Holidays at the end of November and December

I am now suggesting that the November ride be on Saturday the 19th and

the December ride be on Saturday the 17th.

 

What say you all?

 

Of course anyone can organize a ride at any time by emailing the rest of us.

 

Happy Trails,

 

JOHN KENNER

 

510 231 6803 OFFICE

415 806 2457 CELL

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From dan at drummondlaw.com  Tue Oct  4 13:30:41 2011
From: dan at drummondlaw.com (Daniel Drummond)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 12:30:41 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] winter rides
In-Reply-To: <001001cc8297$87e1b350$97a519f0$@TAMCAB.COM>
References: <001001cc8297$87e1b350$97a519f0$@TAMCAB.COM>
Message-ID: <330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E0902558487@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>

Sounds good.  Two rides in October, switching over to winter schedule in November.  Nov. 19 and Dec. 17 work for me.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of JOHN KENNER
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 6:14 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] winter rides

Hey British Car Fans,

 

Traditionally we cut back to 1 ride per month in the Winter.

It's been the 4th Saturday of the month in the past.

 

I am assuming we want to continue this starting in November. If not, chime in.

 

Anyway, with Holidays at the end of November and December

I am now suggesting that the November ride be on Saturday the 19th and

the December ride be on Saturday the 17th.

 

What say you all?

 

Of course anyone can organize a ride at any time by emailing the rest of us.

 

Happy Trails,

 

JOHN KENNER

 

510 231 6803 OFFICE

415 806 2457 CELL

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From markdarley at mac.com  Tue Oct  4 14:49:34 2011
From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley)
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2011 13:49:34 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] winter rides
In-Reply-To: <001001cc8297$87e1b350$97a519f0$@TAMCAB.COM>
References: <001001cc8297$87e1b350$97a519f0$@TAMCAB.COM>
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4th Saturday is better for me.  See you on Nov 17th if you don't go  
too far north!
Mark
Tyrolite Green '57 MGA

PS. Sorry to miss the Sonoma meet. It looked like e great turnout  
from the photos.

Mark Darley
markdarley at mac.com
Mobile Phone 415 310 5252



On Oct 4, 2011, at 6:14 AM, JOHN KENNER wrote:

> Hey British Car Fans,
>
>
>
> Traditionally we cut back to 1 ride per month in the Winter.
>
> It's been the 4th Saturday of the month in the past.
>
>
>
> I am assuming we want to continue this starting in November. If  
> not, chime
> in.
>
>
>
> Anyway, with Holidays at the end of November and December
>
> I am now suggesting that the November ride be on Saturday the 19th and
>
> the December ride be on Saturday the 17th.
>
>
>
> What say you all?
>
>
>
> Of course anyone can organize a ride at any time by emailing the  
> rest of us.
>
>
>
> Happy Trails,
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
>
>
>
> 510 231 6803 OFFICE
>
> 415 806 2457 CELL
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a  
> name of image001.png]
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Tue Oct  4 15:27:25 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 14:27:25 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] winter rides
In-Reply-To: <001001cc8297$87e1b350$97a519f0$@TAMCAB.COM>
References: <001001cc8297$87e1b350$97a519f0$@TAMCAB.COM>
Message-ID: <C80278E508B546EB91AA7FEC33E47D92@williamsonPC>

Looking forward, the 4th Saturday in Nov and Dec are going to be killed by 
Thanksgiving (maybe) and Christmas (eve).  Not sure about the rest of 
winter.
Does anybody have any objections to changing our tradition to the second 
Saturday?
Clif and Deborah  74 JH


-----Original Message----- 
From: JOHN KENNER
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 6:14 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] winter rides

Hey British Car Fans,



Traditionally we cut back to 1 ride per month in the Winter.

It's been the 4th Saturday of the month in the past.



I am assuming we want to continue this starting in November. If not, chime
in.



Anyway, with Holidays at the end of November and December

I am now suggesting that the November ride be on Saturday the 19th and

the December ride be on Saturday the 17th.



What say you all?



Of course anyone can organize a ride at any time by emailing the rest of us.



Happy Trails,



JOHN KENNER



510 231 6803 OFFICE

415 806 2457 CELL

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image001.png]
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From dan at drummondlaw.com  Tue Oct  4 17:19:57 2011
From: dan at drummondlaw.com (Daniel Drummond)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 16:19:57 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] winter rides
In-Reply-To: <C80278E508B546EB91AA7FEC33E47D92@williamsonPC>
References: <001001cc8297$87e1b350$97a519f0$@TAMCAB.COM>
	<C80278E508B546EB91AA7FEC33E47D92@williamsonPC>
Message-ID: <330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E09025F7630@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>

That's why John is suggesting the THIRD Saturdays in November and December.  ;)  

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 2:27 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] winter rides

Looking forward, the 4th Saturday in Nov and Dec are going to be killed by Thanksgiving (maybe) and Christmas (eve).  Not sure about the rest of winter.
Does anybody have any objections to changing our tradition to the second Saturday?
Clif and Deborah  74 JH


-----Original Message-----
From: JOHN KENNER
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 6:14 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] winter rides

Hey British Car Fans,



Traditionally we cut back to 1 ride per month in the Winter.

It's been the 4th Saturday of the month in the past.



I am assuming we want to continue this starting in November. If not, chime in.



Anyway, with Holidays at the end of November and December

I am now suggesting that the November ride be on Saturday the 19th and

the December ride be on Saturday the 17th.



What say you all?



Of course anyone can organize a ride at any time by emailing the rest of us.



Happy Trails,



JOHN KENNER



510 231 6803 OFFICE

415 806 2457 CELL

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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Tue Oct  4 19:34:57 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2011 18:34:57 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] winter rides
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References: <001001cc8297$87e1b350$97a519f0$@TAMCAB.COM>
Message-ID: <4E8BB441.2070101@gmail.com>

I think John's suggested dates are the best compromise. It's always hard 
to plan drives during November and December, so even if these dates work 
for most people, we could get rained out and need to reschedule. Best 
thing is to have a plan like John has suggested and stay loose in case 
we need a rain reschedule.

It's supposed to be a warm day on Saturday - good day for a drive.

Cheers,

Greg Tatarian

From mvg1 at att.net  Tue Oct  4 20:01:23 2011
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 19:01:23 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] winter rides
References: <001001cc8297$87e1b350$97a519f0$@TAMCAB.COM><C80278E508B546EB91AA7FEC33E47D92@williamsonPC>
	<330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E09025F7630@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>
Message-ID: <1A045A8912CF466C883418D879C3C583@mike>

Sounds good to me,

Michael
64 TR4

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel Drummond" <dan at drummondlaw.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] winter rides


> That's why John is suggesting the THIRD Saturdays in November and 
> December.  ;)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] 
> On Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 2:27 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] winter rides
>
> Looking forward, the 4th Saturday in Nov and Dec are going to be killed by 
> Thanksgiving (maybe) and Christmas (eve).  Not sure about the rest of 
> winter.
> Does anybody have any objections to changing our tradition to the second 
> Saturday?
> Clif and Deborah  74 JH
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JOHN KENNER
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 6:14 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: [Nobbc] winter rides
>
> Hey British Car Fans,
>
>
>
> Traditionally we cut back to 1 ride per month in the Winter.
>
> It's been the 4th Saturday of the month in the past.
>
>
>
> I am assuming we want to continue this starting in November. If not, chime 
> in.
>
>
>
> Anyway, with Holidays at the end of November and December
>
> I am now suggesting that the November ride be on Saturday the 19th and
>
> the December ride be on Saturday the 17th.
>
>
>
> What say you all?
>
>
>
> Of course anyone can organize a ride at any time by emailing the rest of 
> us.
>
>
>
> Happy Trails,
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
>
>
>
> 510 231 6803 OFFICE
>
> 415 806 2457 CELL
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of 
> image001.png] _______________________________________________
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From rja90266 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  4 20:58:12 2011
From: rja90266 at yahoo.com (richard j adams)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 19:58:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] (no subject)
Message-ID: <1317783492.32418.YahooMailMobile@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

http://diapercakebaker.net/catalog/myblog.php?html45

From dodea495 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct  5 01:20:30 2011
From: dodea495 at hotmail.com (Dennis O'Dea)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 00:20:30 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] winter rides
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References: <001001cc8297$87e1b350$97a519f0$@TAMCAB.COM>
Message-ID: <SNT137-W10718FE041E90ADD655D9A9CF80@phx.gbl>

Hey, John
The November and December dates sound good for us.   With the winter schedule,
are meet time also changed to 12pm.  I would like to meet at the same summer
time (10am) or adjust it to 11am, for the morning frost to defrost.

Dennis

> From: jkenner at tamcab.com
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 06:14:19 -0700
> Subject: [Nobbc] winter rides
>
> Hey British Car Fans,
>
>
>
> Traditionally we cut back to 1 ride per month in the Winter.
>
> It's been the 4th Saturday of the month in the past.
>
>
>
> I am assuming we want to continue this starting in November. If not, chime
> in.
>
>
>
> Anyway, with Holidays at the end of November and December
>
> I am now suggesting that the November ride be on Saturday the 19th and
>
> the December ride be on Saturday the 17th.
>
>
>
> What say you all?
>
>
>
> Of course anyone can organize a ride at any time by emailing the rest of
us.
>
>
>
> Happy Trails,
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
>
>
>
> 510 231 6803 OFFICE
>
> 415 806 2457 CELL
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of
image001.png]
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From rja90266 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  5 01:51:56 2011
From: rja90266 at yahoo.com (richard j adams)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 00:51:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] Yahoo email hacked today. Be careful of emails from me.
	Sorry
Message-ID: <1317801116.47010.YahooMailNeo@web161218.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>


From jkenner at tamcab.com  Wed Oct  5 06:41:24 2011
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (JOHN KENNER)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 05:41:24 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] winter rides
In-Reply-To: <SNT137-W10718FE041E90ADD655D9A9CF80@phx.gbl>
References: <001001cc8297$87e1b350$97a519f0$@TAMCAB.COM>
	<SNT137-W10718FE041E90ADD655D9A9CF80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000101cc835c$18fd11d0$4af73570$@TAMCAB.COM>

I have never cared for the Noon start in Winter.
It confuses the lunch issue. I like for us to have a break and eat lunch
together.

How about we start at 10:30 and that way we can take off by 11 and have
lunch 12:30 or 1?

Let's hear it people

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 OFFICE
415 806 2457 CELL




-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Dennis O'Dea
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:21 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] winter rides

Hey, John
The November and December dates sound good for us.   With the winter
schedule,
are meet time also changed to 12pm.  I would like to meet at the same summer
time (10am) or adjust it to 11am, for the morning frost to defrost.

Dennis

> From: jkenner at tamcab.com
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 06:14:19 -0700
> Subject: [Nobbc] winter rides
>
> Hey British Car Fans,
>
>
>
> Traditionally we cut back to 1 ride per month in the Winter.
>
> It's been the 4th Saturday of the month in the past.
>
>
>
> I am assuming we want to continue this starting in November. If not, chime
> in.
>
>
>
> Anyway, with Holidays at the end of November and December
>
> I am now suggesting that the November ride be on Saturday the 19th and
>
> the December ride be on Saturday the 17th.
>
>
>
> What say you all?
>
>
>
> Of course anyone can organize a ride at any time by emailing the rest of
us.
>
>
>
> Happy Trails,
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
>
>
>
> 510 231 6803 OFFICE
>
> 415 806 2457 CELL
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Wed Oct  5 06:46:08 2011
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (JOHN KENNER)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 05:46:08 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday's Ride
Message-ID: <000201cc835c$c23cb4d0$46b61e70$@TAMCAB.COM>

Hello British Car Nuts,

 

I thought I'd like to lead a ride to St. Helena over the St. Helena Road on

Saturday and have lunch at what was once Taylor's Refresher.

 

It looks like fine weather on Saturday.

 

So if that's ok with the rest of you,  you may not want to pack a lunch

or bring a chair. Still need gas though!

 

Sayonara,

 

 

JOHN KENNER

 

510 231 6803 OFFICE

415 806 2457 CELL

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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Wed Oct  5 07:34:33 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 06:34:33 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] winter rides
In-Reply-To: <SNT137-W10718FE041E90ADD655D9A9CF80@phx.gbl>
References: <001001cc8297$87e1b350$97a519f0$@TAMCAB.COM>
	<SNT137-W10718FE041E90ADD655D9A9CF80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4E8C5CE9.7090804@gmail.com>

Dennis - you are correct. We normally moved the start time to noon, but 
I agree with you - 11am is better to give defrost time while not making 
for a really long day.

Cheers,

Greg



On 10/5/2011 12:20 AM, Dennis O'Dea wrote:
> Hey, John
> The November and December dates sound good for us.   With the winter schedule,
> are meet time also changed to 12pm.  I would like to meet at the same summer
> time (10am) or adjust it to 11am, for the morning frost to defrost.
>
> Dennis

From gtwincams at gmail.com  Wed Oct  5 09:14:11 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 08:14:11 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday's Ride
In-Reply-To: <000201cc835c$c23cb4d0$46b61e70$@TAMCAB.COM>
References: <000201cc835c$c23cb4d0$46b61e70$@TAMCAB.COM>
Message-ID: <4E8C7443.9020309@gmail.com>

  Sounds good. See you at 10am at Bad Ass Coffee.

Greg Tatarian



On 10/5/2011 5:46 AM, JOHN KENNER wrote:
> Hello British Car Nuts,
>
>
>
> I thought I'd like to lead a ride to St. Helena over the St. Helena Road on
>
> Saturday and have lunch at what was once Taylor's Refresher.
>
>
>
> It looks like fine weather on Saturday.
>
>
>
> So if that's ok with the rest of you,  you may not want to pack a lunch
>
> or bring a chair. Still need gas though!
>
>
>
> Sayonara,
>
>
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER

From dan at drummondlaw.com  Wed Oct  5 10:19:46 2011
From: dan at drummondlaw.com (Daniel Drummond)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 09:19:46 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] winter rides
In-Reply-To: <4E8C5CE9.7090804@gmail.com>
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	<SNT137-W10718FE041E90ADD655D9A9CF80@phx.gbl>
	<4E8C5CE9.7090804@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E09025F78CC@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>

I cast my vote with John.  Meet at 10:30, depart by 11.  The noon meeting time just breaks up the day too much for my tastes.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 6:35 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] winter rides

Dennis - you are correct. We normally moved the start time to noon, but I agree with you - 11am is better to give defrost time while not making for a really long day.

Cheers,

Greg



On 10/5/2011 12:20 AM, Dennis O'Dea wrote:
> Hey, John
> The November and December dates sound good for us.   With the winter schedule,
> are meet time also changed to 12pm.  I would like to meet at the same 
> summer time (10am) or adjust it to 11am, for the morning frost to defrost.
>
> Dennis
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From wbain at sonic.net  Wed Oct  5 11:34:34 2011
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 10:34:34 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] winter rides
In-Reply-To: <330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E09025F7630@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>
References: <001001cc8297$87e1b350$97a519f0$@TAMCAB.COM>
	<C80278E508B546EB91AA7FEC33E47D92@williamsonPC>
	<330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E09025F7630@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>
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Just to throw another wrench into the works. I do a Boxing Day run
on Dec. 26. This is rain or shine. If you don't want to bring the
34 Floggitt you can drive a modern. Better to have the people
show up. There are people from other groups so you might meet
some new friends. Haven't planned the route yet or the lunch
stop.... It's only October!!!

Cheers,

Wendell

On Oct 4, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Daniel Drummond wrote:

> That's why John is suggesting the THIRD Saturdays in November and  
> December.  ;)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- 
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 2:27 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] winter rides
>
> Looking forward, the 4th Saturday in Nov and Dec are going to be  
> killed by Thanksgiving (maybe) and Christmas (eve).  Not sure about  
> the rest of winter.
> Does anybody have any objections to changing our tradition to the  
> second Saturday?
> Clif and Deborah  74 JH
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JOHN KENNER
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 6:14 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: [Nobbc] winter rides
>
> Hey British Car Fans,
>
>
>
> Traditionally we cut back to 1 ride per month in the Winter.
>
> It's been the 4th Saturday of the month in the past.
>
>
>
> I am assuming we want to continue this starting in November. If  
> not, chime in.
>
>
>
> Anyway, with Holidays at the end of November and December
>
> I am now suggesting that the November ride be on Saturday the 19th and
>
> the December ride be on Saturday the 17th.
>
>
>
> What say you all?
>
>
>
> Of course anyone can organize a ride at any time by emailing the  
> rest of us.
>
>
>
> Happy Trails,
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
>
>
>
> 510 231 6803 OFFICE
>
> 415 806 2457 CELL
>
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From bluesson at hotmail.com  Wed Oct  5 13:43:05 2011
From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 12:43:05 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Yahoo email hacked today. Be careful of emails from me.
 Sorry
In-Reply-To: <1317801116.47010.YahooMailNeo@web161218.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1317801116.47010.YahooMailNeo@web161218.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU164-W102B418D6896C49D32147FD0F80@phx.gbl>

USE THE BCC LINE INSTEAD OF EXPOSING EVERYONE'S EMAIL ADDRESSES!!! Blew my
mind when I saw this come up with every address ripe for the picking.

> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 00:51:56 -0700
> From: rja90266 at yahoo.com
> To: joscelyn at aaes.biz; linda.a.abelson at aero.org; Betsy at yahoo.com;
seamath at cox.net; oda.2006 at yahoo.com; reanhongkong at gmail.com;
Richard.Adams at nbcuni.com; richard.j.adams at aero.org; greygoosemusic at aol.com;
debraanderson1 at gmail.com; info at debrascorner.com; angeloni at vom.com;
anne at elitefinancialnetwork.com; pauer at cerious.com; ljblack at alum.mit.edu;
ljblack at mindspring.com; mboning at gmail.com; dan at elitefinancialnetwork.com;
carlile at bu.edu; ccarlock at solarcraft.com; kathleen.cartier at shorewood.com;
dr.chera at sbcglobal.net; nosh at northwestern.edu; doncochran11 at yahoo.com;
valeriecooley at frontier.com; Natasha.Cooper at mortgagefamily.com;
daniel at tonemesa.com; helpdesk at wilddivine.com; d.doak at sbcglobal.net;
Jill.Dovale at sustainablespaces.com; tdriscoll at akeena.com;
dtakemoto at elitefinancialnetwork.com; ktracy47 at gmail.com;
rceaglecob at verizon.net; suellen.eslinger at aero.org; suellenesl at verizon.net;
jgeary at earthlink.net; marvin.c.gechman at aero.org; gerken at dslextreme.com;
peterglaw at aol.com; drphil1 at hotmail.com; drgreer at greerblackcompany.com;
Emgeeguy at aol.com; Peter.Hantos at aero.org; John.F.Harrell at aero.org;
linda.harris at natplan.com; myron.j.hecht at aero.org; lhill at fhallen.com;
leslie.j.holloway at aero.org; skhoting at cox.net; daniel.x.houston at aero.org;
bigbucks2 at cox.net; Lisa.V.Jankovich at aero.org; mjudson at sonoma-county.org;
wkilch at sbcglobal.net; diosadeprimavera at gmail.com; falguni.lakhani at nbcuni.com;
Rosalind.Lewis at aero.org; sjlucich at gmail.com; mark.l.lupfer at aero.org;
Rachel.M.Macaulay at aero.org; charisse.m.martinez at aero.org;
samya_mccoy at hotmail.com; mewgull at mugele.net; David.J.Naiditch at aero.org;
nobbc-request at autox.team.net; nobbc at autox.team.net; Jim.kathy.ocean at gmail.com;
karen.l.owens at aero.org; carolyn.pollard.b9a1 at statefarm.com;
carolyn at carolynpollard.com; marlapreston at hotmail.com;
david.randall70 at gmail.com; abraham.a.santiago at aero.org; abesant at verizon.net;
scardamaglia at comcast.net; ferdinands at att.net; shystegosaur at yahoo.com;
sharon.k.hoting at aero.org; paulsilverlaw at yahoo.com; spar.mediation at gmail.com;
spar95409 at gmail.com; rastine at rcn.com; rob.sudakow at gmail.com; ohsusi at aol.com;
gtwincams at gmail.com; thenobbc at gmail.com; troupb_b at yahoo.com;
gregoryunger at gmail.com; paulavantrigt at coldwellbanker.com;
patriciasold at yahoo.com; veatchlaw at gmail.com; elena.a.viscarra at aero.org;
CJean.Wang at aero.org; jeff at green-ward.com; aprilstory at aol.com;
welcome at sonomasmiles.com; Robyn.M.Wilkes at aero.org; woonslay at verizon.net
> Subject: [Nobbc] Yahoo email hacked today. Be careful of emails from me.
Sorry
>
>
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Wed Oct  5 17:20:40 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 16:20:40 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Yahoo email hacked today. Be careful of emails from me.
 Sorry
In-Reply-To: <BLU164-W102B418D6896C49D32147FD0F80@phx.gbl>
References: <1317801116.47010.YahooMailNeo@web161218.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<BLU164-W102B418D6896C49D32147FD0F80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <A947AF1127E24763BA050B9BB686D8D6@williamsonPC>

Anybody know if we are vulnerable now?

From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct  5 17:35:07 2011
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (Andy Preston)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 16:35:07 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke
Message-ID: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom>

I donbt normally forward blanket emails but this one makes sense and is
important so please read, especially women.



Andy



  _____

From: Steven Lilves [mailto:slilves at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:45 PM
To: undisclosed recipients:
Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke






--- On Wed, 10/5/11, John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net> wrote:


From: John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net>
Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke
To: "John Hurabiell" <lotusman at pacbell.net>
Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 12:20 PM






o;?THIS IS IMPORTANT b PLEASE READ

A  MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL:

STATE OF MICHIGAN:

SITUATION...

While driving on a rural end of the roadway on Thursday morning, I saw an
infant car seat on the side of the road with a blanket draped over it.

For whatever reason, I did not stop, even though I had all kinds of thoughts
running through my head. But when I got to my destination, I called the Canton
PD and they were going to check it out. But, this is what the Police advised
even before they went out there to check....

"There are several things to be aware of... gangs and thieves are now plotting
different ways to get a person (mostly women) to stop their vehicle and get
out of the car.

"There is a gang initiation reported by the local Police Department where
gangs are placing a car seat by the road... with a fake baby in it.... waiting
for a woman, of course, to stop and check on the abandoned baby.

"Note that the location of this car seat is usually beside a wooded or grassy
(field) area and the person -- woman -- will be dragged into the woods, beaten
and raped, and usually left for dead. If itbs a man, theybre usually
beaten and robbed and maybe left for dead, too.

DO NOT STOP FOR ANY REASON!!!  DIAL 9-1-1 AND REPORT WHAT YOU SAW, BUT DONbT
EVEN SLOW DOWN.

"IF YOU ARE DRIVING AT  NIGHT AND EGGS ARE THROWN AT YOUR WINDSHIELD, DO  NOT
STOP TO CHECK THE CAR, DO NOT OPERATE THE WIPER AND DO NOT SPRAY ANY WATER
BECAUSE EGGS MIXED WITH WATER BECOME MILKY AND BLOCK YOUR VISION UP TO 92.5%,
AND YOU ARE THEN FORCED TO STOP BESIDE THE ROAD AND BECOME A VICTIM OF THESE
CRIMINALS.

THIS IS A NEW TECHNIQUE USED BY GANGS, SO PLEASE INFORM YOUR FRIENDS AND
RELATIVES.

THESE ARE DESPERATE TIMES AND THESE ARE UNSAVORY INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL TAKE
DESPERATE MEASURES TO GET WHAT THEY WANT."

Please talk to your loved ones  about this. This is a new tactic used. Please
be safe.

Get started NOW -- SEND THIS  MESSAGE TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES TO BE
CAREFUL AND AWARE OF EVERYTHING AROUND THEM SO AS NOT TO BECOME A VICTIM..

WARNING  # 2

Some knew about the red light on cars, but not the 112.  It was about 1:00
p.m. in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a friend. An UNMARKED
police car pulled up behind her and put his lights on. Laurenbs parents have
always told her never to pull over for an unmarked car on the side of the
road, but rather to wait until they get to a gas station, etc.

Lauren had actually listened to her parents advice, and promptly called 112 on
her cell phone to tell the police dispatcher that she would not pull over
right away. She proceeded to tell the dispatcher that there was an unmarked
police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind her. The dispatcher
checked to see if there were police cars where she was and there werenbt,
and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he had back up already
on the way.

Ten minutes later 4 cop cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behind her.
One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car behind. They
pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground. The man was a
convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes.

I never knew about the 112 Cell Phone feature, but especially for a woman
alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked car.  Apparently
police have to respect your right to keep going to a safe place.

*Speaking to a service representative at Bell Mobility confirmed that 112 was
a direct link to State trooper info. So, now itbs your turn to let your
friends know about 112.

You may want to send this to every woman (and man) you know; it may save a
life.

This applies to ALL 50 states - PLEASEPASS ALONG TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY, IT CAN
SAVE A LIFE....

From hawkview at sonic.net  Wed Oct  5 18:54:37 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 17:54:37 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke
In-Reply-To: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom>
References: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom>
Message-ID: <F3FAF91F2F1D4AB194834701B578EDEC@williamsonPC>

WOW Andy,
Hard to believe, thanks.  Will send it on.

Deb 74 Jensen Healey


-----Original Message----- 
From: Andy Preston
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 4:35 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke

I donbt normally forward blanket emails but this one makes sense and is
important so please read, especially women.



Andy



  _____

From: Steven Lilves [mailto:slilves at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:45 PM
To: undisclosed recipients:
Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke






--- On Wed, 10/5/11, John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net> wrote:


From: John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net>
Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke
To: "John Hurabiell" <lotusman at pacbell.net>
Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 12:20 PM






o;?THIS IS IMPORTANT b PLEASE READ

A  MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL:

STATE OF MICHIGAN:

SITUATION...

While driving on a rural end of the roadway on Thursday morning, I saw an
infant car seat on the side of the road with a blanket draped over it.

For whatever reason, I did not stop, even though I had all kinds of thoughts
running through my head. But when I got to my destination, I called the 
Canton
PD and they were going to check it out. But, this is what the Police advised
even before they went out there to check....

"There are several things to be aware of... gangs and thieves are now 
plotting
different ways to get a person (mostly women) to stop their vehicle and get
out of the car.

"There is a gang initiation reported by the local Police Department where
gangs are placing a car seat by the road... with a fake baby in it.... 
waiting
for a woman, of course, to stop and check on the abandoned baby.

"Note that the location of this car seat is usually beside a wooded or 
grassy
(field) area and the person -- woman -- will be dragged into the woods, 
beaten
and raped, and usually left for dead. If itbs a man, theybre usually
beaten and robbed and maybe left for dead, too.

DO NOT STOP FOR ANY REASON!!!  DIAL 9-1-1 AND REPORT WHAT YOU SAW, BUT 
DONbT
EVEN SLOW DOWN.

"IF YOU ARE DRIVING AT  NIGHT AND EGGS ARE THROWN AT YOUR WINDSHIELD, DO 
NOT
STOP TO CHECK THE CAR, DO NOT OPERATE THE WIPER AND DO NOT SPRAY ANY WATER
BECAUSE EGGS MIXED WITH WATER BECOME MILKY AND BLOCK YOUR VISION UP TO 
92.5%,
AND YOU ARE THEN FORCED TO STOP BESIDE THE ROAD AND BECOME A VICTIM OF THESE
CRIMINALS.

THIS IS A NEW TECHNIQUE USED BY GANGS, SO PLEASE INFORM YOUR FRIENDS AND
RELATIVES.

THESE ARE DESPERATE TIMES AND THESE ARE UNSAVORY INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL TAKE
DESPERATE MEASURES TO GET WHAT THEY WANT."

Please talk to your loved ones  about this. This is a new tactic used. 
Please
be safe.

Get started NOW -- SEND THIS  MESSAGE TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES TO 
BE
CAREFUL AND AWARE OF EVERYTHING AROUND THEM SO AS NOT TO BECOME A VICTIM..

WARNING  # 2

Some knew about the red light on cars, but not the 112.  It was about 1:00
p.m. in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a friend. An UNMARKED
police car pulled up behind her and put his lights on. Laurenbs parents 
have
always told her never to pull over for an unmarked car on the side of the
road, but rather to wait until they get to a gas station, etc.

Lauren had actually listened to her parents advice, and promptly called 112 
on
her cell phone to tell the police dispatcher that she would not pull over
right away. She proceeded to tell the dispatcher that there was an unmarked
police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind her. The 
dispatcher
checked to see if there were police cars where she was and there werenbt,
and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he had back up already
on the way.

Ten minutes later 4 cop cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behind her.
One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car behind. 
They
pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground. The man was a
convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes.

I never knew about the 112 Cell Phone feature, but especially for a woman
alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked car.  Apparently
police have to respect your right to keep going to a safe place.

*Speaking to a service representative at Bell Mobility confirmed that 112 
was
a direct link to State trooper info. So, now itbs your turn to let your
friends know about 112.

You may want to send this to every woman (and man) you know; it may save a
life.

This applies to ALL 50 states - PLEASEPASS ALONG TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY, IT 
CAN
SAVE A LIFE....
_______________________________________________
Nobbc at autox.team.net
Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $11.47
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From splath at comcast.net  Wed Oct  5 19:00:38 2011
From: splath at comcast.net (Steve Plath)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:00:38 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke
In-Reply-To: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom>
References: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom>
Message-ID: <012301cc83c3$5d36b6f0$17a424d0$@net>

Sorry to pooh-pooh this, but if you go to www.snopes.com the Urban Legend
site it will tell you that both these warnings in some form or another have
been around for years with no basis.  Warning number #1 they label as flat
out false and warning #2 they indicate as partially true as some bad guys
have posed as police to attack their victims, but the rest is false.  Every
time I get one of these warnings I go to snopes to check out the validity
before passing it on.  It's a great site.

Steve Plath

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Andy Preston
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 4:35 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke

I donbt normally forward blanket emails but this one makes sense and is
important so please read, especially women.



Andy



  _____

From: Steven Lilves [mailto:slilves at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:45 PM
To: undisclosed recipients:
Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke






--- On Wed, 10/5/11, John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net> wrote:


From: John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net>
Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke
To: "John Hurabiell" <lotusman at pacbell.net>
Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 12:20 PM






o;?THIS IS IMPORTANT b PLEASE READ

A  MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL:

STATE OF MICHIGAN:

SITUATION...

While driving on a rural end of the roadway on Thursday morning, I saw an
infant car seat on the side of the road with a blanket draped over it.

For whatever reason, I did not stop, even though I had all kinds of thoughts
running through my head. But when I got to my destination, I called the
Canton
PD and they were going to check it out. But, this is what the Police advised
even before they went out there to check....

"There are several things to be aware of... gangs and thieves are now
plotting
different ways to get a person (mostly women) to stop their vehicle and get
out of the car.

"There is a gang initiation reported by the local Police Department where
gangs are placing a car seat by the road... with a fake baby in it....
waiting
for a woman, of course, to stop and check on the abandoned baby.

"Note that the location of this car seat is usually beside a wooded or
grassy
(field) area and the person -- woman -- will be dragged into the woods,
beaten
and raped, and usually left for dead. If itbs a man, theybre usually
beaten and robbed and maybe left for dead, too.

DO NOT STOP FOR ANY REASON!!!  DIAL 9-1-1 AND REPORT WHAT YOU SAW, BUT
DONbT
EVEN SLOW DOWN.

"IF YOU ARE DRIVING AT  NIGHT AND EGGS ARE THROWN AT YOUR WINDSHIELD, DO
NOT
STOP TO CHECK THE CAR, DO NOT OPERATE THE WIPER AND DO NOT SPRAY ANY WATER
BECAUSE EGGS MIXED WITH WATER BECOME MILKY AND BLOCK YOUR VISION UP TO
92.5%,
AND YOU ARE THEN FORCED TO STOP BESIDE THE ROAD AND BECOME A VICTIM OF THESE
CRIMINALS.

THIS IS A NEW TECHNIQUE USED BY GANGS, SO PLEASE INFORM YOUR FRIENDS AND
RELATIVES.

THESE ARE DESPERATE TIMES AND THESE ARE UNSAVORY INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL TAKE
DESPERATE MEASURES TO GET WHAT THEY WANT."

Please talk to your loved ones  about this. This is a new tactic used.
Please
be safe.

Get started NOW -- SEND THIS  MESSAGE TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES TO
BE
CAREFUL AND AWARE OF EVERYTHING AROUND THEM SO AS NOT TO BECOME A VICTIM..

WARNING  # 2

Some knew about the red light on cars, but not the 112.  It was about 1:00
p.m. in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a friend. An UNMARKED
police car pulled up behind her and put his lights on. Laurenbs parents
have
always told her never to pull over for an unmarked car on the side of the
road, but rather to wait until they get to a gas station, etc.

Lauren had actually listened to her parents advice, and promptly called 112
on
her cell phone to tell the police dispatcher that she would not pull over
right away. She proceeded to tell the dispatcher that there was an unmarked
police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind her. The
dispatcher
checked to see if there were police cars where she was and there werenbt,
and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he had back up already
on the way.

Ten minutes later 4 cop cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behind her.
One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car behind.
They
pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground. The man was a
convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes.

I never knew about the 112 Cell Phone feature, but especially for a woman
alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked car.  Apparently
police have to respect your right to keep going to a safe place.

*Speaking to a service representative at Bell Mobility confirmed that 112
was
a direct link to State trooper info. So, now itbs your turn to let your
friends know about 112.

You may want to send this to every woman (and man) you know; it may save a
life.

This applies to ALL 50 states - PLEASEPASS ALONG TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY, IT
CAN
SAVE A LIFE....
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Wed Oct  5 19:04:55 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (gtwincams at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 01:04:55 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] Yahoo email hacked today. Be careful of emails from
 me.Sorry
Message-ID: <mailman.11.1317863120.19530.nobbc@autox.team.net>

Clif, I think as long as you don't click on the link in his email you should be OK.

Yet again I have asked Mark Bradakis, owner of this and the other forums, to transfer the administrator account to me from Ron, but can get no response. I have asked that Rick unsubscribe himself until he gets his issues sorted out.

Greg Tatarian
------Original Message------
From: Clif & Deborah Williamson
Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
To: North Bay British Car Club
ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Yahoo email hacked today. Be careful of emails from me.Sorry
Sent: Oct 5, 2011 4:20 PM

Anybody know if we are vulnerable now?
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Wed Oct  5 19:39:54 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:39:54 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke
In-Reply-To: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom>
References: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom>
Message-ID: <30E984D98512476A8DAB1859FFCC46D0@williamsonPC>

Thanks Andy.
However each example happens to be an urban legend and started in 2009.
Interesting problems though.
Anybody know a cop that might shed some light on how to best handle these 
situations?

Check out the link below.
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/crime/a/national_gang_week.htm




-----Original Message----- 
From: Andy Preston
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 4:35 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke

I donbt normally forward blanket emails but this one makes sense and is
important so please read, especially women.



Andy



  _____

From: Steven Lilves [mailto:slilves at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:45 PM
To: undisclosed recipients:
Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke






--- On Wed, 10/5/11, John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net> wrote:


From: John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net>
Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke
To: "John Hurabiell" <lotusman at pacbell.net>
Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 12:20 PM






o;?THIS IS IMPORTANT b PLEASE READ

A  MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL:

STATE OF MICHIGAN:

SITUATION...

While driving on a rural end of the roadway on Thursday morning, I saw an
infant car seat on the side of the road with a blanket draped over it.

For whatever reason, I did not stop, even though I had all kinds of thoughts
running through my head. But when I got to my destination, I called the 
Canton
PD and they were going to check it out. But, this is what the Police advised
even before they went out there to check....

"There are several things to be aware of... gangs and thieves are now 
plotting
different ways to get a person (mostly women) to stop their vehicle and get
out of the car.

"There is a gang initiation reported by the local Police Department where
gangs are placing a car seat by the road... with a fake baby in it.... 
waiting
for a woman, of course, to stop and check on the abandoned baby.

"Note that the location of this car seat is usually beside a wooded or 
grassy
(field) area and the person -- woman -- will be dragged into the woods, 
beaten
and raped, and usually left for dead. If itbs a man, theybre usually
beaten and robbed and maybe left for dead, too.

DO NOT STOP FOR ANY REASON!!!  DIAL 9-1-1 AND REPORT WHAT YOU SAW, BUT 
DONbT
EVEN SLOW DOWN.

"IF YOU ARE DRIVING AT  NIGHT AND EGGS ARE THROWN AT YOUR WINDSHIELD, DO 
NOT
STOP TO CHECK THE CAR, DO NOT OPERATE THE WIPER AND DO NOT SPRAY ANY WATER
BECAUSE EGGS MIXED WITH WATER BECOME MILKY AND BLOCK YOUR VISION UP TO 
92.5%,
AND YOU ARE THEN FORCED TO STOP BESIDE THE ROAD AND BECOME A VICTIM OF THESE
CRIMINALS.

THIS IS A NEW TECHNIQUE USED BY GANGS, SO PLEASE INFORM YOUR FRIENDS AND
RELATIVES.

THESE ARE DESPERATE TIMES AND THESE ARE UNSAVORY INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL TAKE
DESPERATE MEASURES TO GET WHAT THEY WANT."

Please talk to your loved ones  about this. This is a new tactic used. 
Please
be safe.

Get started NOW -- SEND THIS  MESSAGE TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES TO 
BE
CAREFUL AND AWARE OF EVERYTHING AROUND THEM SO AS NOT TO BECOME A VICTIM..

WARNING  # 2

Some knew about the red light on cars, but not the 112.  It was about 1:00
p.m. in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a friend. An UNMARKED
police car pulled up behind her and put his lights on. Laurenbs parents 
have
always told her never to pull over for an unmarked car on the side of the
road, but rather to wait until they get to a gas station, etc.

Lauren had actually listened to her parents advice, and promptly called 112 
on
her cell phone to tell the police dispatcher that she would not pull over
right away. She proceeded to tell the dispatcher that there was an unmarked
police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind her. The 
dispatcher
checked to see if there were police cars where she was and there werenbt,
and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he had back up already
on the way.

Ten minutes later 4 cop cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behind her.
One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car behind. 
They
pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground. The man was a
convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes.

I never knew about the 112 Cell Phone feature, but especially for a woman
alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked car.  Apparently
police have to respect your right to keep going to a safe place.

*Speaking to a service representative at Bell Mobility confirmed that 112 
was
a direct link to State trooper info. So, now itbs your turn to let your
friends know about 112.

You may want to send this to every woman (and man) you know; it may save a
life.

This applies to ALL 50 states - PLEASEPASS ALONG TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY, IT 
CAN
SAVE A LIFE....
_______________________________________________
Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Wed Oct  5 19:43:56 2011
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (JOHN KENNER)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:43:56 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke
In-Reply-To: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom>
References: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom>
Message-ID: <003501cc83c9$6a45b480$3ed11d80$@TAMCAB.COM>

Andy,

I find your use of the club email list inappropriate.

This list should be for NOBBC business and communication among members.

What do others think?

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 OFFICE
415 806 2457 CELL




-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Andy Preston
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 4:35 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke

I donbt normally forward blanket emails but this one makes sense and is
important so please read, especially women.



Andy



  _____

From: Steven Lilves [mailto:slilves at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:45 PM
To: undisclosed recipients:
Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke






--- On Wed, 10/5/11, John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net> wrote:


From: John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net>
Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke
To: "John Hurabiell" <lotusman at pacbell.net>
Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 12:20 PM






o;?THIS IS IMPORTANT b PLEASE READ

A  MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL:

STATE OF MICHIGAN:

SITUATION...

While driving on a rural end of the roadway on Thursday morning, I saw an
infant car seat on the side of the road with a blanket draped over it.

For whatever reason, I did not stop, even though I had all kinds of thoughts
running through my head. But when I got to my destination, I called the
Canton
PD and they were going to check it out. But, this is what the Police advised
even before they went out there to check....

"There are several things to be aware of... gangs and thieves are now
plotting
different ways to get a person (mostly women) to stop their vehicle and get
out of the car.

"There is a gang initiation reported by the local Police Department where
gangs are placing a car seat by the road... with a fake baby in it....
waiting
for a woman, of course, to stop and check on the abandoned baby.

"Note that the location of this car seat is usually beside a wooded or
grassy
(field) area and the person -- woman -- will be dragged into the woods,
beaten
and raped, and usually left for dead. If itbs a man, theybre usually
beaten and robbed and maybe left for dead, too.

DO NOT STOP FOR ANY REASON!!!  DIAL 9-1-1 AND REPORT WHAT YOU SAW, BUT
DONbT
EVEN SLOW DOWN.

"IF YOU ARE DRIVING AT  NIGHT AND EGGS ARE THROWN AT YOUR WINDSHIELD, DO
NOT
STOP TO CHECK THE CAR, DO NOT OPERATE THE WIPER AND DO NOT SPRAY ANY WATER
BECAUSE EGGS MIXED WITH WATER BECOME MILKY AND BLOCK YOUR VISION UP TO
92.5%,
AND YOU ARE THEN FORCED TO STOP BESIDE THE ROAD AND BECOME A VICTIM OF THESE
CRIMINALS.

THIS IS A NEW TECHNIQUE USED BY GANGS, SO PLEASE INFORM YOUR FRIENDS AND
RELATIVES.

THESE ARE DESPERATE TIMES AND THESE ARE UNSAVORY INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL TAKE
DESPERATE MEASURES TO GET WHAT THEY WANT."

Please talk to your loved ones  about this. This is a new tactic used.
Please
be safe.

Get started NOW -- SEND THIS  MESSAGE TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES TO
BE
CAREFUL AND AWARE OF EVERYTHING AROUND THEM SO AS NOT TO BECOME A VICTIM..

WARNING  # 2

Some knew about the red light on cars, but not the 112.  It was about 1:00
p.m. in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a friend. An UNMARKED
police car pulled up behind her and put his lights on. Laurenbs parents
have
always told her never to pull over for an unmarked car on the side of the
road, but rather to wait until they get to a gas station, etc.

Lauren had actually listened to her parents advice, and promptly called 112
on
her cell phone to tell the police dispatcher that she would not pull over
right away. She proceeded to tell the dispatcher that there was an unmarked
police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind her. The
dispatcher
checked to see if there were police cars where she was and there werenbt,
and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he had back up already
on the way.

Ten minutes later 4 cop cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behind her.
One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car behind.
They
pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground. The man was a
convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes.

I never knew about the 112 Cell Phone feature, but especially for a woman
alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked car.  Apparently
police have to respect your right to keep going to a safe place.

*Speaking to a service representative at Bell Mobility confirmed that 112
was
a direct link to State trooper info. So, now itbs your turn to let your
friends know about 112.

You may want to send this to every woman (and man) you know; it may save a
life.

This applies to ALL 50 states - PLEASEPASS ALONG TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY, IT
CAN
SAVE A LIFE....
_______________________________________________
Nobbc at autox.team.net
Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From wkilch at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct  5 22:23:36 2011
From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (wkilch at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 04:23:36 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke
In-Reply-To: <003501cc83c9$6a45b480$3ed11d80$@TAMCAB.COM>
References: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom><003501cc83c9$6a45b480$3ed11d80$@TAMCAB.COM>
Message-ID: <mailman.12.1317875040.19530.nobbc@autox.team.net>

I agree with John. There are many important issues circulating but this is not the place. I got off this list months ago because of the excessive posts and missed important club stuff. I'd prefer not have to unsubscribe again. 

Thanks
Walter
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: JOHN KENNER <jkenner at tamcab.com>
Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:43:56 
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'<nobbc at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke

Andy,

I find your use of the club email list inappropriate.

This list should be for NOBBC business and communication among members.

What do others think?

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 OFFICE
415 806 2457 CELL




-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Andy Preston
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 4:35 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke

I donbt normally forward blanket emails but this one makes sense and is
important so please read, especially women.



Andy



  _____

From: Steven Lilves [mailto:slilves at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:45 PM
To: undisclosed recipients:
Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke






--- On Wed, 10/5/11, John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net> wrote:


From: John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net>
Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke
To: "John Hurabiell" <lotusman at pacbell.net>
Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 12:20 PM






o;?THIS IS IMPORTANT b PLEASE READ

A  MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL:

STATE OF MICHIGAN:

SITUATION...

While driving on a rural end of the roadway on Thursday morning, I saw an
infant car seat on the side of the road with a blanket draped over it.

For whatever reason, I did not stop, even though I had all kinds of thoughts
running through my head. But when I got to my destination, I called the
Canton
PD and they were going to check it out. But, this is what the Police advised
even before they went out there to check....

"There are several things to be aware of... gangs and thieves are now
plotting
different ways to get a person (mostly women) to stop their vehicle and get
out of the car.

"There is a gang initiation reported by the local Police Department where
gangs are placing a car seat by the road... with a fake baby in it....
waiting
for a woman, of course, to stop and check on the abandoned baby.

"Note that the location of this car seat is usually beside a wooded or
grassy
(field) area and the person -- woman -- will be dragged into the woods,
beaten
and raped, and usually left for dead. If itbs a man, theybre usually
beaten and robbed and maybe left for dead, too.

DO NOT STOP FOR ANY REASON!!!  DIAL 9-1-1 AND REPORT WHAT YOU SAW, BUT
DONbT
EVEN SLOW DOWN.

"IF YOU ARE DRIVING AT  NIGHT AND EGGS ARE THROWN AT YOUR WINDSHIELD, DO
NOT
STOP TO CHECK THE CAR, DO NOT OPERATE THE WIPER AND DO NOT SPRAY ANY WATER
BECAUSE EGGS MIXED WITH WATER BECOME MILKY AND BLOCK YOUR VISION UP TO
92.5%,
AND YOU ARE THEN FORCED TO STOP BESIDE THE ROAD AND BECOME A VICTIM OF THESE
CRIMINALS.

THIS IS A NEW TECHNIQUE USED BY GANGS, SO PLEASE INFORM YOUR FRIENDS AND
RELATIVES.

THESE ARE DESPERATE TIMES AND THESE ARE UNSAVORY INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL TAKE
DESPERATE MEASURES TO GET WHAT THEY WANT."

Please talk to your loved ones  about this. This is a new tactic used.
Please
be safe.

Get started NOW -- SEND THIS  MESSAGE TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES TO
BE
CAREFUL AND AWARE OF EVERYTHING AROUND THEM SO AS NOT TO BECOME A VICTIM..

WARNING  # 2

Some knew about the red light on cars, but not the 112.  It was about 1:00
p.m. in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a friend. An UNMARKED
police car pulled up behind her and put his lights on. Laurenbs parents
have
always told her never to pull over for an unmarked car on the side of the
road, but rather to wait until they get to a gas station, etc.

Lauren had actually listened to her parents advice, and promptly called 112
on
her cell phone to tell the police dispatcher that she would not pull over
right away. She proceeded to tell the dispatcher that there was an unmarked
police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind her. The
dispatcher
checked to see if there were police cars where she was and there werenbt,
and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he had back up already
on the way.

Ten minutes later 4 cop cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behind her.
One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car behind.
They
pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground. The man was a
convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes.

I never knew about the 112 Cell Phone feature, but especially for a woman
alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked car.  Apparently
police have to respect your right to keep going to a safe place.

*Speaking to a service representative at Bell Mobility confirmed that 112
was
a direct link to State trooper info. So, now itbs your turn to let your
friends know about 112.

You may want to send this to every woman (and man) you know; it may save a
life.

This applies to ALL 50 states - PLEASEPASS ALONG TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY, IT
CAN
SAVE A LIFE....
_______________________________________________
Nobbc at autox.team.net
Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $11.47
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From mewgull at sonic.net  Thu Oct  6 01:14:17 2011
From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 00:14:17 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Please read- actually is a joke
In-Reply-To: <003501cc83c9$6a45b480$3ed11d80$@TAMCAB.COM>
References: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom>
	<003501cc83c9$6a45b480$3ed11d80$@TAMCAB.COM>
Message-ID: <9410D779-748F-499A-8DDB-215528902313@sonic.net>

Okay it's not important club news but I think it applies to this crowd:





G. Mugele
mewgull at mugele.net

*** Nothing takes the taste out of peanut butter quite like
unrequited love. -- Charles M. Schulz

From mewgull at sonic.net  Thu Oct  6 03:05:36 2011
From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 02:05:36 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Please read- actually is a joke
In-Reply-To: <9410D779-748F-499A-8DDB-215528902313@sonic.net>
References: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom>
	<003501cc83c9$6a45b480$3ed11d80$@TAMCAB.COM>
	<9410D779-748F-499A-8DDB-215528902313@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <C46190EA-F121-4DD5-A04F-03BF20AE9426@sonic.net>

Sorry... forgot about the attachment not working .....


On Oct 6, 2011, at 12:14 AM, G. Mugele wrote:

> Okay it's not important club news but I think it applies to this
> crowd:
>
>
>
>
>
> G. Mugele
> mewgull at mugele.net
>
> *** Nothing takes the taste out of peanut butter quite like
> unrequited love. -- Charles M. Schulz
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $11.47
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G. Mugele
mewgull at mugele.net

*** Nothing takes the taste out of peanut butter quite like
unrequited love. -- Charles M. Schulz

From dan at drummondlaw.com  Thu Oct  6 09:10:22 2011
From: dan at drummondlaw.com (Daniel Drummond)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 08:10:22 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke
In-Reply-To: <003501cc83c9$6a45b480$3ed11d80$@TAMCAB.COM>
References: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom>
	<003501cc83c9$6a45b480$3ed11d80$@TAMCAB.COM>
Message-ID: <330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E09025F7D1D@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>

With no offense intended to Andy, I tend to agree with John.  The more this site is diluted with non-NOBBC posts, the less valuable it becomes.  I've missed club functions in the past because I didn't want to take the time and read through dozens of postings that had little or nothing to do with the club.  My two cents worth, anyway.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of JOHN KENNER
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 6:44 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke

Andy,

I find your use of the club email list inappropriate.

This list should be for NOBBC business and communication among members.

What do others think?

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 OFFICE
415 806 2457 CELL




-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andy Preston
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 4:35 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke

I donbt normally forward blanket emails but this one makes sense and is important so please read, especially women.



Andy



  _____

From: Steven Lilves [mailto:slilves at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:45 PM
To: undisclosed recipients:
Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke






--- On Wed, 10/5/11, John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net> wrote:


From: John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net>
Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke
To: "John Hurabiell" <lotusman at pacbell.net>
Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 12:20 PM






o;?THIS IS IMPORTANT b PLEASE READ

A  MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL:

STATE OF MICHIGAN:

SITUATION...

While driving on a rural end of the roadway on Thursday morning, I saw an infant car seat on the side of the road with a blanket draped over it.

For whatever reason, I did not stop, even though I had all kinds of thoughts running through my head. But when I got to my destination, I called the Canton PD and they were going to check it out. But, this is what the Police advised even before they went out there to check....

"There are several things to be aware of... gangs and thieves are now plotting different ways to get a person (mostly women) to stop their vehicle and get out of the car.

"There is a gang initiation reported by the local Police Department where gangs are placing a car seat by the road... with a fake baby in it....
waiting
for a woman, of course, to stop and check on the abandoned baby.

"Note that the location of this car seat is usually beside a wooded or grassy
(field) area and the person -- woman -- will be dragged into the woods, beaten and raped, and usually left for dead. If itbs a man, theybre usually beaten and robbed and maybe left for dead, too.

DO NOT STOP FOR ANY REASON!!!  DIAL 9-1-1 AND REPORT WHAT YOU SAW, BUT DONbT EVEN SLOW DOWN.

"IF YOU ARE DRIVING AT  NIGHT AND EGGS ARE THROWN AT YOUR WINDSHIELD, DO NOT STOP TO CHECK THE CAR, DO NOT OPERATE THE WIPER AND DO NOT SPRAY ANY WATER BECAUSE EGGS MIXED WITH WATER BECOME MILKY AND BLOCK YOUR VISION UP TO 92.5%, AND YOU ARE THEN FORCED TO STOP BESIDE THE ROAD AND BECOME A VICTIM OF THESE CRIMINALS.

THIS IS A NEW TECHNIQUE USED BY GANGS, SO PLEASE INFORM YOUR FRIENDS AND RELATIVES.

THESE ARE DESPERATE TIMES AND THESE ARE UNSAVORY INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL TAKE DESPERATE MEASURES TO GET WHAT THEY WANT."

Please talk to your loved ones  about this. This is a new tactic used.
Please
be safe.

Get started NOW -- SEND THIS  MESSAGE TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES TO BE CAREFUL AND AWARE OF EVERYTHING AROUND THEM SO AS NOT TO BECOME A VICTIM..

WARNING  # 2

Some knew about the red light on cars, but not the 112.  It was about 1:00 p.m. in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a friend. An UNMARKED police car pulled up behind her and put his lights on. Laurenbs parents have always told her never to pull over for an unmarked car on the side of the road, but rather to wait until they get to a gas station, etc.

Lauren had actually listened to her parents advice, and promptly called 112 on her cell phone to tell the police dispatcher that she would not pull over right away. She proceeded to tell the dispatcher that there was an unmarked police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind her. The dispatcher checked to see if there were police cars where she was and there werenbt, and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he had back up already on the way.

Ten minutes later 4 cop cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behind her.
One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car behind.
They
pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground. The man was a convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes.

I never knew about the 112 Cell Phone feature, but especially for a woman alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked car.  Apparently police have to respect your right to keep going to a safe place.

*Speaking to a service representative at Bell Mobility confirmed that 112 was a direct link to State trooper info. So, now itbs your turn to let your friends know about 112.

You may want to send this to every woman (and man) you know; it may save a life.

This applies to ALL 50 states - PLEASEPASS ALONG TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY, IT CAN SAVE A LIFE....
_______________________________________________
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From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct  6 10:38:27 2011
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (Andy Preston)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 09:38:27 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke
In-Reply-To: <003501cc83c9$6a45b480$3ed11d80$@TAMCAB.COM>
References: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom>
	<003501cc83c9$6a45b480$3ed11d80$@TAMCAB.COM>
Message-ID: <291FAC7D471340469D2CD2C74B86EB01@BonusRoom>

John Kenner, I don't find it any less appropriate than you trying to sell
concert tickets to the group or renting out garage space.  If it helps
anyone from being hurt from one of these scams I think it would be
beneficial.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of JOHN KENNER
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 6:44 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke

Andy,

I find your use of the club email list inappropriate.

This list should be for NOBBC business and communication among members.

What do others think?

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 OFFICE
415 806 2457 CELL




-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Andy Preston
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 4:35 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke

I donbt normally forward blanket emails but this one makes sense and is
important so please read, especially women.



Andy



  _____

From: Steven Lilves [mailto:slilves at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:45 PM
To: undisclosed recipients:
Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke






--- On Wed, 10/5/11, John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net> wrote:


From: John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net>
Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke
To: "John Hurabiell" <lotusman at pacbell.net>
Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 12:20 PM






o;?THIS IS IMPORTANT b PLEASE READ

A  MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL:

STATE OF MICHIGAN:

SITUATION...

While driving on a rural end of the roadway on Thursday morning, I saw an
infant car seat on the side of the road with a blanket draped over it.

For whatever reason, I did not stop, even though I had all kinds of thoughts
running through my head. But when I got to my destination, I called the
Canton
PD and they were going to check it out. But, this is what the Police advised
even before they went out there to check....

"There are several things to be aware of... gangs and thieves are now
plotting
different ways to get a person (mostly women) to stop their vehicle and get
out of the car.

"There is a gang initiation reported by the local Police Department where
gangs are placing a car seat by the road... with a fake baby in it....
waiting
for a woman, of course, to stop and check on the abandoned baby.

"Note that the location of this car seat is usually beside a wooded or
grassy
(field) area and the person -- woman -- will be dragged into the woods,
beaten
and raped, and usually left for dead. If itbs a man, theybre usually
beaten and robbed and maybe left for dead, too.

DO NOT STOP FOR ANY REASON!!!  DIAL 9-1-1 AND REPORT WHAT YOU SAW, BUT
DONbT
EVEN SLOW DOWN.

"IF YOU ARE DRIVING AT  NIGHT AND EGGS ARE THROWN AT YOUR WINDSHIELD, DO
NOT
STOP TO CHECK THE CAR, DO NOT OPERATE THE WIPER AND DO NOT SPRAY ANY WATER
BECAUSE EGGS MIXED WITH WATER BECOME MILKY AND BLOCK YOUR VISION UP TO
92.5%,
AND YOU ARE THEN FORCED TO STOP BESIDE THE ROAD AND BECOME A VICTIM OF THESE
CRIMINALS.

THIS IS A NEW TECHNIQUE USED BY GANGS, SO PLEASE INFORM YOUR FRIENDS AND
RELATIVES.

THESE ARE DESPERATE TIMES AND THESE ARE UNSAVORY INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL TAKE
DESPERATE MEASURES TO GET WHAT THEY WANT."

Please talk to your loved ones  about this. This is a new tactic used.
Please
be safe.

Get started NOW -- SEND THIS  MESSAGE TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES TO
BE
CAREFUL AND AWARE OF EVERYTHING AROUND THEM SO AS NOT TO BECOME A VICTIM..

WARNING  # 2

Some knew about the red light on cars, but not the 112.  It was about 1:00
p.m. in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a friend. An UNMARKED
police car pulled up behind her and put his lights on. Laurenbs parents
have
always told her never to pull over for an unmarked car on the side of the
road, but rather to wait until they get to a gas station, etc.

Lauren had actually listened to her parents advice, and promptly called 112
on
her cell phone to tell the police dispatcher that she would not pull over
right away. She proceeded to tell the dispatcher that there was an unmarked
police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind her. The
dispatcher
checked to see if there were police cars where she was and there werenbt,
and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he had back up already
on the way.

Ten minutes later 4 cop cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behind her.
One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car behind.
They
pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground. The man was a
convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes.

I never knew about the 112 Cell Phone feature, but especially for a woman
alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked car.  Apparently
police have to respect your right to keep going to a safe place.

*Speaking to a service representative at Bell Mobility confirmed that 112
was
a direct link to State trooper info. So, now itbs your turn to let your
friends know about 112.

You may want to send this to every woman (and man) you know; it may save a
life.

This applies to ALL 50 states - PLEASEPASS ALONG TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY, IT
CAN
SAVE A LIFE....
_______________________________________________
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From zied at redwoodempiremini.com  Thu Oct  6 12:14:21 2011
From: zied at redwoodempiremini.com (Peter Ziedrich)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 11:14:21 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke
In-Reply-To: <291FAC7D471340469D2CD2C74B86EB01@BonusRoom>
References: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom>
	<003501cc83c9$6a45b480$3ed11d80$@TAMCAB.COM>
	<291FAC7D471340469D2CD2C74B86EB01@BonusRoom>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAAbCgIXvNzBIlYUuWmhNNwfCgAAAEAAAAPknK517PL9Gr7mIi73sedsBAAAAAA==@redwoodempiremini.com>

Ouch and touchi...
>From someone that gets 300-500 emails a day, which all but a small handful
are unsolicited junk, I don't care. It is very easy to delete an email and
all recipients on this list are welcome to either read or delete. Don't let
such a minor issue cause friction that could fragment the group.


Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Andy Preston
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 9:38 AM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke

John Kenner, I don't find it any less appropriate than you trying to sell
concert tickets to the group or renting out garage space.  If it helps
anyone from being hurt from one of these scams I think it would be
beneficial.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of JOHN KENNER
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 6:44 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke

Andy,

I find your use of the club email list inappropriate.

This list should be for NOBBC business and communication among members.

What do others think?

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 OFFICE
415 806 2457 CELL




-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Andy Preston
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 4:35 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke

I donbt normally forward blanket emails but this one makes sense and is
important so please read, especially women.



Andy



  _____

From: Steven Lilves [mailto:slilves at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:45 PM
To: undisclosed recipients:
Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke






--- On Wed, 10/5/11, John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net> wrote:


From: John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net>
Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke
To: "John Hurabiell" <lotusman at pacbell.net>
Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 12:20 PM






o;?THIS IS IMPORTANT b PLEASE READ

A  MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL:

STATE OF MICHIGAN:

SITUATION...

While driving on a rural end of the roadway on Thursday morning, I saw an
infant car seat on the side of the road with a blanket draped over it.

For whatever reason, I did not stop, even though I had all kinds of thoughts
running through my head. But when I got to my destination, I called the
Canton PD and they were going to check it out. But, this is what the Police
advised even before they went out there to check....

"There are several things to be aware of... gangs and thieves are now
plotting different ways to get a person (mostly women) to stop their vehicle
and get out of the car.

"There is a gang initiation reported by the local Police Department where
gangs are placing a car seat by the road... with a fake baby in it....
waiting
for a woman, of course, to stop and check on the abandoned baby.

"Note that the location of this car seat is usually beside a wooded or
grassy
(field) area and the person -- woman -- will be dragged into the woods,
beaten and raped, and usually left for dead. If itbs a man, theybre
usually beaten and robbed and maybe left for dead, too.

DO NOT STOP FOR ANY REASON!!!  DIAL 9-1-1 AND REPORT WHAT YOU SAW, BUT
DONbT EVEN SLOW DOWN.

"IF YOU ARE DRIVING AT  NIGHT AND EGGS ARE THROWN AT YOUR WINDSHIELD, DO NOT
STOP TO CHECK THE CAR, DO NOT OPERATE THE WIPER AND DO NOT SPRAY ANY WATER
BECAUSE EGGS MIXED WITH WATER BECOME MILKY AND BLOCK YOUR VISION UP TO
92.5%, AND YOU ARE THEN FORCED TO STOP BESIDE THE ROAD AND BECOME A VICTIM
OF THESE CRIMINALS.

THIS IS A NEW TECHNIQUE USED BY GANGS, SO PLEASE INFORM YOUR FRIENDS AND
RELATIVES.

THESE ARE DESPERATE TIMES AND THESE ARE UNSAVORY INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL TAKE
DESPERATE MEASURES TO GET WHAT THEY WANT."

Please talk to your loved ones  about this. This is a new tactic used.
Please
be safe.

Get started NOW -- SEND THIS  MESSAGE TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES TO
BE CAREFUL AND AWARE OF EVERYTHING AROUND THEM SO AS NOT TO BECOME A
VICTIM..

WARNING  # 2

Some knew about the red light on cars, but not the 112.  It was about 1:00
p.m. in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a friend. An UNMARKED
police car pulled up behind her and put his lights on. Laurenbs parents
have always told her never to pull over for an unmarked car on the side of
the road, but rather to wait until they get to a gas station, etc.

Lauren had actually listened to her parents advice, and promptly called 112
on her cell phone to tell the police dispatcher that she would not pull over
right away. She proceeded to tell the dispatcher that there was an unmarked
police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind her. The
dispatcher checked to see if there were police cars where she was and there
werenbt, and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he had back
up already on the way.

Ten minutes later 4 cop cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behind her.
One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car behind.
They
pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground. The man was a
convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes.

I never knew about the 112 Cell Phone feature, but especially for a woman
alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked car.  Apparently
police have to respect your right to keep going to a safe place.

*Speaking to a service representative at Bell Mobility confirmed that 112
was a direct link to State trooper info. So, now itbs your turn to let your
friends know about 112.

You may want to send this to every woman (and man) you know; it may save a
life.

This applies to ALL 50 states - PLEASEPASS ALONG TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY, IT
CAN SAVE A LIFE....
_______________________________________________
Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From don at napanet.net  Thu Oct  6 12:18:56 2011
From: don at napanet.net (Don)
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 11:18:56 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Please read- not a joke
In-Reply-To: <003501cc83c9$6a45b480$3ed11d80$@TAMCAB.COM>
References: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom>
	<003501cc83c9$6a45b480$3ed11d80$@TAMCAB.COM>
Message-ID: <20111006181914.BA6B2AE6A5@mail.dsl.napanet.net>

I think that coming down so hard on someone for such a minor issue is 
inappropriate use of the club email.




At 06:43 PM 10/5/2011, you wrote:
>Andy,
>
>I find your use of the club email list inappropriate.
>
>This list should be for NOBBC business and communication among members.
>
>What do others think?
>
>JOHN KENNER
>
>510 231 6803 OFFICE
>415 806 2457 CELL
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
>Behalf Of Andy Preston
>Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 4:35 PM
>To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
>Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke
>
>I donbt normally forward blanket emails but this one makes sense and is
>important so please read, especially women.
>
>
>
>Andy
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>From: Steven Lilves [mailto:slilves at sbcglobal.net]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:45 PM
>To: undisclosed recipients:
>Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke
>
>
>
>
>
>
>--- On Wed, 10/5/11, John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>From: John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net>
>Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke
>To: "John Hurabiell" <lotusman at pacbell.net>
>Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 12:20 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>o;?THIS IS IMPORTANT bPLEASE READ
>
>A  MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL:
>
>STATE OF MICHIGAN:
>
>SITUATION...
>
>While driving on a rural end of the roadway on Thursday morning, I saw an
>infant car seat on the side of the road with a blanket draped over it.
>
>For whatever reason, I did not stop, even though I had all kinds of thoughts
>running through my head. But when I got to my destination, I called the
>Canton
>PD and they were going to check it out. But, this is what the Police advised
>even before they went out there to check....
>
>"There are several things to be aware of... gangs and thieves are now
>plotting
>different ways to get a person (mostly women) to stop their vehicle and get
>out of the car.
>
>"There is a gang initiation reported by the local Police Department where
>gangs are placing a car seat by the road... with a fake baby in it....
>waiting
>for a woman, of course, to stop and check on the abandoned baby.
>
>"Note that the location of this car seat is usually beside a wooded or
>grassy
>(field) area and the person -- woman -- will be dragged into the woods,
>beaten
>and raped, and usually left for dead. If itbs a man, theybre usually
>beaten and robbed and maybe left for dead, too.
>
>DO NOT STOP FOR ANY REASON!!!  DIAL 9-1-1 AND REPORT WHAT YOU SAW, BUT
>DONbT
>EVEN SLOW DOWN.
>
>"IF YOU ARE DRIVING AT  NIGHT AND EGGS ARE THROWN AT YOUR WINDSHIELD, DO
>NOT
>STOP TO CHECK THE CAR, DO NOT OPERATE THE WIPER AND DO NOT SPRAY ANY WATER
>BECAUSE EGGS MIXED WITH WATER BECOME MILKY AND BLOCK YOUR VISION UP TO
>92.5%,
>AND YOU ARE THEN FORCED TO STOP BESIDE THE ROAD AND BECOME A VICTIM OF THESE
>CRIMINALS.
>
>THIS IS A NEW TECHNIQUE USED BY GANGS, SO PLEASE INFORM YOUR FRIENDS AND
>RELATIVES.
>
>THESE ARE DESPERATE TIMES AND THESE ARE UNSAVORY INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL TAKE
>DESPERATE MEASURES TO GET WHAT THEY WANT."
>
>Please talk to your loved ones  about this. This is a new tactic used.
>Please
>be safe.
>
>Get started NOW -- SEND THIS  MESSAGE TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES TO
>BE
>CAREFUL AND AWARE OF EVERYTHING AROUND THEM SO AS NOT TO BECOME A VICTIM..
>
>WARNING  # 2
>
>Some knew about the red light on cars, but not the 112.  It was about 1:00
>p.m. in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a friend. An UNMARKED
>police car pulled up behind her and put his lights on. Laurenbs parents
>have
>always told her never to pull over for an unmarked car on the side of the
>road, but rather to wait until they get to a gas station, etc.
>
>Lauren had actually listened to her parents advice, and promptly called 112
>on
>her cell phone to tell the police dispatcher that she would not pull over
>right away. She proceeded to tell the dispatcher that there was an unmarked
>police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind her. The
>dispatcher
>checked to see if there were police cars where she was and there werenbt,
>and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he had back up already
>on the way.
>
>Ten minutes later 4 cop cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behind her.
>One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car behind.
>They
>pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground. The man was a
>convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes.
>
>I never knew about the 112 Cell Phone feature, but especially for a woman
>alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked car.  Apparently
>police have to respect your right to keep going to a safe place.
>
>*Speaking to a service representative at Bell Mobility confirmed that 112
>was
>a direct link to State trooper info. So, now itbs your turn to let your
>friends know about 112.
>
>You may want to send this to every woman (and man) you know; it may save a
>life.
>
>This applies to ALL 50 states - PLEASEPASS ALONG TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY, IT
>CAN
>SAVE A LIFE....
>_______________________________________________
>Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Thu Oct  6 12:41:59 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 11:41:59 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke
In-Reply-To: <291FAC7D471340469D2CD2C74B86EB01@BonusRoom>
References: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom><003501cc83c9$6a45b480$3ed11d80$@TAMCAB.COM>
	<291FAC7D471340469D2CD2C74B86EB01@BonusRoom>
Message-ID: <DE34D5A8E808402D8A39C70BFB0155AE@williamsonPC>

Andy.
Did you read the responses to your scams email?  I always check these mass 
emails to be sure they are not just BS before I forward.  Just copy and 
paste the subject into Google or the first sentence.
These were all urban legends.  Not they they are not possible, but I agree 
with the others.  If everybody posted every urban legend that they received 
here we would have a real mess.
I do agree with you about concert tickets (a nice gesture), but garage space 
would come under the heading of car parts and cars for sale (at least to 
me).  It is something that somebody might need for their LBC.
And I have to admit that getting into a pissing match about what is and is 
not a Lotus was probably a bit over the top, and was meant in fun.  But not 
the correct place.
We do need to keep this message center focused.  I get more emails from the 
club than all other emails combined including spam.
Clif  74 JH

-----Original Message----- 
From: Andy Preston
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 9:38 AM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke

John Kenner, I don't find it any less appropriate than you trying to sell
concert tickets to the group or renting out garage space.  If it helps
anyone from being hurt from one of these scams I think it would be
beneficial.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of JOHN KENNER
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 6:44 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke

Andy,

I find your use of the club email list inappropriate.

This list should be for NOBBC business and communication among members.

What do others think?

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 OFFICE
415 806 2457 CELL




-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Andy Preston
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 4:35 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke

I donbt normally forward blanket emails but this one makes sense and is
important so please read, especially women.



Andy



  _____

From: Steven Lilves [mailto:slilves at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:45 PM
To: undisclosed recipients:
Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke






--- On Wed, 10/5/11, John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net> wrote:


From: John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net>
Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke
To: "John Hurabiell" <lotusman at pacbell.net>
Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 12:20 PM






o;?THIS IS IMPORTANT b PLEASE READ

A  MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL:

STATE OF MICHIGAN:

SITUATION...

While driving on a rural end of the roadway on Thursday morning, I saw an
infant car seat on the side of the road with a blanket draped over it.

For whatever reason, I did not stop, even though I had all kinds of thoughts
running through my head. But when I got to my destination, I called the
Canton
PD and they were going to check it out. But, this is what the Police advised
even before they went out there to check....

"There are several things to be aware of... gangs and thieves are now
plotting
different ways to get a person (mostly women) to stop their vehicle and get
out of the car.

"There is a gang initiation reported by the local Police Department where
gangs are placing a car seat by the road... with a fake baby in it....
waiting
for a woman, of course, to stop and check on the abandoned baby.

"Note that the location of this car seat is usually beside a wooded or
grassy
(field) area and the person -- woman -- will be dragged into the woods,
beaten
and raped, and usually left for dead. If itbs a man, theybre usually
beaten and robbed and maybe left for dead, too.

DO NOT STOP FOR ANY REASON!!!  DIAL 9-1-1 AND REPORT WHAT YOU SAW, BUT
DONbT
EVEN SLOW DOWN.

"IF YOU ARE DRIVING AT  NIGHT AND EGGS ARE THROWN AT YOUR WINDSHIELD, DO
NOT
STOP TO CHECK THE CAR, DO NOT OPERATE THE WIPER AND DO NOT SPRAY ANY WATER
BECAUSE EGGS MIXED WITH WATER BECOME MILKY AND BLOCK YOUR VISION UP TO
92.5%,
AND YOU ARE THEN FORCED TO STOP BESIDE THE ROAD AND BECOME A VICTIM OF THESE
CRIMINALS.

THIS IS A NEW TECHNIQUE USED BY GANGS, SO PLEASE INFORM YOUR FRIENDS AND
RELATIVES.

THESE ARE DESPERATE TIMES AND THESE ARE UNSAVORY INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL TAKE
DESPERATE MEASURES TO GET WHAT THEY WANT."

Please talk to your loved ones  about this. This is a new tactic used.
Please
be safe.

Get started NOW -- SEND THIS  MESSAGE TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES TO
BE
CAREFUL AND AWARE OF EVERYTHING AROUND THEM SO AS NOT TO BECOME A VICTIM..

WARNING  # 2

Some knew about the red light on cars, but not the 112.  It was about 1:00
p.m. in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a friend. An UNMARKED
police car pulled up behind her and put his lights on. Laurenbs parents
have
always told her never to pull over for an unmarked car on the side of the
road, but rather to wait until they get to a gas station, etc.

Lauren had actually listened to her parents advice, and promptly called 112
on
her cell phone to tell the police dispatcher that she would not pull over
right away. She proceeded to tell the dispatcher that there was an unmarked
police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind her. The
dispatcher
checked to see if there were police cars where she was and there werenbt,
and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he had back up already
on the way.

Ten minutes later 4 cop cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behind her.
One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car behind.
They
pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground. The man was a
convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes.

I never knew about the 112 Cell Phone feature, but especially for a woman
alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked car.  Apparently
police have to respect your right to keep going to a safe place.

*Speaking to a service representative at Bell Mobility confirmed that 112
was
a direct link to State trooper info. So, now itbs your turn to let your
friends know about 112.

You may want to send this to every woman (and man) you know; it may save a
life.

This applies to ALL 50 states - PLEASEPASS ALONG TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY, IT
CAN
SAVE A LIFE....
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Thu Oct  6 13:07:54 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 12:07:54 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Guidance from the Administrator
Message-ID: <4E8DFC8A.6030908@gmail.com>

  Hello Folks,

I'd like to weigh in here as the administrator of this email forum. One 
of the founding ideals of this club was that there were no rules. That 
works as long as we behave in a civil manner and treat each other with 
respect. As we all know, email as a means of communication has its 
limitations, and email forums such as this do require that we adhere to, 
if not rules, than let's call them "reasonable principles of behavior".

It took me a year of cajoling Ron to establish an email forum for the 
club so that members could communicate together, and when we had bumps 
in the road or minor scuffles on the forum, Ron and I talked by phone 
and email about how to respond and what direction we wanted to influence 
the discussions. We as members are very good, on the whole, at 
self-administering our posts, and Ron always avoided laying down any 
firm ground rules, in the spirit of the club's philosophy, but also 
because Ron felt that we would all work things out as we went along. 
Despite this, there were several times where Ron had to take action by 
sending a personal email asking for a different approach or for a 
discussion to be ended, or in the case of hacked emails and/or email 
threats, temporarily unsubscribing a person when needed.

Since I have volunteered to take on this and other administrative 
responsibilities, I'd like to present some ground rules - or reasonable 
principles of behavior, for this forum. They are not oppressive and will 
not stifle free expression that is appropriate within the boundaries of 
this forum and our club. If you disagree with them and want to express 
sound reasons why, please do so - I am always open for discussion.

1) When replying to an email, please delete the original text whenever 
possible. This saves bandwidth both for the server and for everyone's 
email systems.

2) If you want to change a discussion, post under a new topic (subject 
line) - don't just hit reply to another topic.  Please do not hijack 
someone else's topic and veer the discussion away. This is basic email 
forum behavior; it is the only way for computer-based systems to allow 
accurate topic searches. It also is proper etiquette to allow an 
original post to stand on its own.

3) All the normal rules of acceptable behavior towards other posters 
apply here, such as; no abusive language, no ethnic or sexist slurs, no 
unfounded accusations, no flamewars, no threats. If you wouldn't say 
something to someone's face, don't write it in an email on this forum - 
send it privately, at your own peril. As I said above, we have been very 
good about this, but now it's being clearly stated.

4) Commercial advertising is not appropriate here. Again, this hasn't 
been a problem, I'm just stating it.

5) Personal advertising for items related to British cars is 
appropriate. That means occasional posts about a car or parts you are 
selling that have appeal to the membership. Repeated postings in a short 
time are not appropriate. Although many of us share other interests, I 
don't think it is appropriate to sell unrelated items on this list.

6) Spam - ah, yes, what constitutes spam? We have all noticed that some 
of the more trivial discussions on this list tend to go on and on and 
on, for days. I guess when we don't have something to say about the 
important stuff, it's easy to talk about the trivial, but my position is 
that posting information that relates to British cars is appropriate, 
while long discussions about totally unrelated topics is not. Posting 
information about laws, events, conditions or other things that impact 
us as drivers of British cars, is appropriate, but we start to stray 
afield when we flog a subject for days, or when we post information of a 
very general nature.

7) Beware of including unverified links in your posts. We don't want to 
spread viruses or other malware to other members. If you are unsure 
about the URL, don't post it, just suggest we Google the subject for 
ourselves.

Using recent postings as examples, while I understand and appreciate 
Andy's intentions to warn the club of potential hazards, this material 
is general in nature, and in fact, is re-hashed internet lore with no 
citations or references. As other posters pointed out, these warnings 
have been established as urban legends, and aren't really on topic for 
this email forum, despite the good intentions.  Why? Because there is no 
verification of fact or truth. As Steve Plath pointed out, snopes.com is 
a good resource for recognizing rumors and misinformation before posting 
to 138 members. It also happens that Andy posted this material right 
after Rick Adams' hacked email posted a link to the list, making 
everyone a bit nervous.

Using Andy's recent post in response to John, John's use of the list to 
advertise concert tickets is not appropriate in my opinion, since it is 
not on topic for our club. If we start doing this, I have a ton of crap 
I'd like to sell to you all... ;-) . John's advertising of his car 
storage facility is probably OK, since it is specific to our cars and is 
being offered to club members.

Last, if you object to what you are reading in posts on this forum, 
don't just take your marbles and go home - let people know. We are a 
very democratic club, and everyone should get a chance to use this 
forum. Rather than unsubscribing, perhaps you can start by deleting 
emails with topics that are not of interest to you (see, Principle #2 
has merit!), or as we often do, let people know that the dead horse has 
been flogged enough.

Hmm. Perhaps I've reached that point... ;-)

Cheers,

Greg Tatarian

From dan at drummondlaw.com  Thu Oct  6 13:26:37 2011
From: dan at drummondlaw.com (Daniel Drummond)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 12:26:37 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke
In-Reply-To: <291FAC7D471340469D2CD2C74B86EB01@BonusRoom>
References: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom>
	<003501cc83c9$6a45b480$3ed11d80$@TAMCAB.COM>
	<291FAC7D471340469D2CD2C74B86EB01@BonusRoom>
Message-ID: <330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E09025F7F55@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>

Gentlemen,

Well said, both of you.  And now that everyone has had their say, might I suggest we bring this thread to a close lest it digress to a point all will regret.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andy Preston
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 9:38 AM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke

John Kenner, I don't find it any less appropriate than you trying to sell concert tickets to the group or renting out garage space.  If it helps anyone from being hurt from one of these scams I think it would be beneficial.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of JOHN KENNER
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 6:44 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke

Andy,

I find your use of the club email list inappropriate.

This list should be for NOBBC business and communication among members.

What do others think?

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 OFFICE
415 806 2457 CELL




-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andy Preston
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 4:35 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke

I donbt normally forward blanket emails but this one makes sense and is important so please read, especially women.



Andy



  _____

From: Steven Lilves [mailto:slilves at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:45 PM
To: undisclosed recipients:
Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke






--- On Wed, 10/5/11, John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net> wrote:


From: John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net>
Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke
To: "John Hurabiell" <lotusman at pacbell.net>
Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 12:20 PM






o;?THIS IS IMPORTANT b PLEASE READ

A  MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL:

STATE OF MICHIGAN:

SITUATION...

While driving on a rural end of the roadway on Thursday morning, I saw an infant car seat on the side of the road with a blanket draped over it.

For whatever reason, I did not stop, even though I had all kinds of thoughts running through my head. But when I got to my destination, I called the Canton PD and they were going to check it out. But, this is what the Police advised even before they went out there to check....

"There are several things to be aware of... gangs and thieves are now plotting different ways to get a person (mostly women) to stop their vehicle and get out of the car.

"There is a gang initiation reported by the local Police Department where gangs are placing a car seat by the road... with a fake baby in it....
waiting
for a woman, of course, to stop and check on the abandoned baby.

"Note that the location of this car seat is usually beside a wooded or grassy
(field) area and the person -- woman -- will be dragged into the woods, beaten and raped, and usually left for dead. If itbs a man, theybre usually beaten and robbed and maybe left for dead, too.

DO NOT STOP FOR ANY REASON!!!  DIAL 9-1-1 AND REPORT WHAT YOU SAW, BUT DONbT EVEN SLOW DOWN.

"IF YOU ARE DRIVING AT  NIGHT AND EGGS ARE THROWN AT YOUR WINDSHIELD, DO NOT STOP TO CHECK THE CAR, DO NOT OPERATE THE WIPER AND DO NOT SPRAY ANY WATER BECAUSE EGGS MIXED WITH WATER BECOME MILKY AND BLOCK YOUR VISION UP TO 92.5%, AND YOU ARE THEN FORCED TO STOP BESIDE THE ROAD AND BECOME A VICTIM OF THESE CRIMINALS.

THIS IS A NEW TECHNIQUE USED BY GANGS, SO PLEASE INFORM YOUR FRIENDS AND RELATIVES.

THESE ARE DESPERATE TIMES AND THESE ARE UNSAVORY INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL TAKE DESPERATE MEASURES TO GET WHAT THEY WANT."

Please talk to your loved ones  about this. This is a new tactic used.
Please
be safe.

Get started NOW -- SEND THIS  MESSAGE TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES TO BE CAREFUL AND AWARE OF EVERYTHING AROUND THEM SO AS NOT TO BECOME A VICTIM..

WARNING  # 2

Some knew about the red light on cars, but not the 112.  It was about 1:00 p.m. in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a friend. An UNMARKED police car pulled up behind her and put his lights on. Laurenbs parents have always told her never to pull over for an unmarked car on the side of the road, but rather to wait until they get to a gas station, etc.

Lauren had actually listened to her parents advice, and promptly called 112 on her cell phone to tell the police dispatcher that she would not pull over right away. She proceeded to tell the dispatcher that there was an unmarked police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind her. The dispatcher checked to see if there were police cars where she was and there werenbt, and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he had back up already on the way.

Ten minutes later 4 cop cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behind her.
One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car behind.
They
pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground. The man was a convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes.

I never knew about the 112 Cell Phone feature, but especially for a woman alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked car.  Apparently police have to respect your right to keep going to a safe place.

*Speaking to a service representative at Bell Mobility confirmed that 112 was a direct link to State trooper info. So, now itbs your turn to let your friends know about 112.

You may want to send this to every woman (and man) you know; it may save a life.

This applies to ALL 50 states - PLEASEPASS ALONG TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY, IT CAN SAVE A LIFE....
_______________________________________________
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From drmartyrayman at gmail.com  Thu Oct  6 14:24:24 2011
From: drmartyrayman at gmail.com (Martin Sinai Rayman)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 13:24:24 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Guidance from the Administrator
In-Reply-To: <4E8DFC8A.6030908@gmail.com>
References: <4E8DFC8A.6030908@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL99TMr1y0PXjMZhVGSGT0WCQ7G_CRQ4Fj8OiUWjX3vYCKw3_w@mail.gmail.com>

No problema with either of the last two e mails.  Marty Rayman '53 TD

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Hello Folks,
>
> I'd like to weigh in here as the administrator of this email forum. One of
> the founding ideals of this club was that there were no rules. That works as
> long as we behave in a civil manner and treat each other with respect. As we
> all know, email as a means of communication has its limitations, and email
> forums such as this do require that we adhere to, if not rules, than let's
> call them "reasonable principles of behavior".
>
> It took me a year of cajoling Ron to establish an email forum for the club
> so that members could communicate together, and when we had bumps in the
> road or minor scuffles on the forum, Ron and I talked by phone and email
> about how to respond and what direction we wanted to influence the
> discussions. We as members are very good, on the whole, at
> self-administering our posts, and Ron always avoided laying down any firm
> ground rules, in the spirit of the club's philosophy, but also because Ron
> felt that we would all work things out as we went along. Despite this, there
> were several times where Ron had to take action by sending a personal email
> asking for a different approach or for a discussion to be ended, or in the
> case of hacked emails and/or email threats, temporarily unsubscribing a
> person when needed.
>
> Since I have volunteered to take on this and other administrative
> responsibilities, I'd like to present some ground rules - or reasonable
> principles of behavior, for this forum. They are not oppressive and will not
> stifle free expression that is appropriate within the boundaries of this
> forum and our club. If you disagree with them and want to express sound
> reasons why, please do so - I am always open for discussion.
>
> 1) When replying to an email, please delete the original text whenever
> possible. This saves bandwidth both for the server and for everyone's email
> systems.
>
> 2) If you want to change a discussion, post under a new topic (subject
> line) - don't just hit reply to another topic.  Please do not hijack someone
> else's topic and veer the discussion away. This is basic email forum
> behavior; it is the only way for computer-based systems to allow accurate
> topic searches. It also is proper etiquette to allow an original post to
> stand on its own.
>
> 3) All the normal rules of acceptable behavior towards other posters apply
> here, such as; no abusive language, no ethnic or sexist slurs, no unfounded
> accusations, no flamewars, no threats. If you wouldn't say something to
> someone's face, don't write it in an email on this forum - send it
> privately, at your own peril. As I said above, we have been very good about
> this, but now it's being clearly stated.
>
> 4) Commercial advertising is not appropriate here. Again, this hasn't been
> a problem, I'm just stating it.
>
> 5) Personal advertising for items related to British cars is appropriate.
> That means occasional posts about a car or parts you are selling that have
> appeal to the membership. Repeated postings in a short time are not
> appropriate. Although many of us share other interests, I don't think it is
> appropriate to sell unrelated items on this list.
>
> 6) Spam - ah, yes, what constitutes spam? We have all noticed that some of
> the more trivial discussions on this list tend to go on and on and on, for
> days. I guess when we don't have something to say about the important stuff,
> it's easy to talk about the trivial, but my position is that posting
> information that relates to British cars is appropriate, while long
> discussions about totally unrelated topics is not. Posting information about
> laws, events, conditions or other things that impact us as drivers of
> British cars, is appropriate, but we start to stray afield when we flog a
> subject for days, or when we post information of a very general nature.
>
> 7) Beware of including unverified links in your posts. We don't want to
> spread viruses or other malware to other members. If you are unsure about
> the URL, don't post it, just suggest we Google the subject for ourselves.
>
> Using recent postings as examples, while I understand and appreciate Andy's
> intentions to warn the club of potential hazards, this material is general
> in nature, and in fact, is re-hashed internet lore with no citations or
> references. As other posters pointed out, these warnings have been
> established as urban legends, and aren't really on topic for this email
> forum, despite the good intentions.  Why? Because there is no verification
> of fact or truth. As Steve Plath pointed out, snopes.com is a good
> resource for recognizing rumors and misinformation before posting to 138
> members. It also happens that Andy posted this material right after Rick
> Adams' hacked email posted a link to the list, making everyone a bit
> nervous.
>
> Using Andy's recent post in response to John, John's use of the list to
> advertise concert tickets is not appropriate in my opinion, since it is not
> on topic for our club. If we start doing this, I have a ton of crap I'd like
> to sell to you all... ;-) . John's advertising of his car storage facility
> is probably OK, since it is specific to our cars and is being offered to
> club members.
>
> Last, if you object to what you are reading in posts on this forum, don't
> just take your marbles and go home - let people know. We are a very
> democratic club, and everyone should get a chance to use this forum. Rather
> than unsubscribing, perhaps you can start by deleting emails with topics
> that are not of interest to you (see, Principle #2 has merit!), or as we
> often do, let people know that the dead horse has been flogged enough.
>
> Hmm. Perhaps I've reached that point... ;-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Greg Tatarian
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From markdarley at mac.com  Thu Oct  6 15:20:49 2011
From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley)
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 14:20:49 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke
In-Reply-To: <330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E09025F7F55@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>
References: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom>
	<003501cc83c9$6a45b480$3ed11d80$@TAMCAB.COM>
	<291FAC7D471340469D2CD2C74B86EB01@BonusRoom>
	<330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E09025F7F55@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>
Message-ID: <67F0E51A-15B2-49C6-B4CF-3C30DEF6FD46@mac.com>

I agree. Lets get back to oil leaks and picnics.

Mark Darley
markdarley at mac.com
Mobile Phone 415 310 5252



On Oct 6, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Daniel Drummond wrote:

> Gentlemen,
>
> Well said, both of you.  And now that everyone has had their say,  
> might I suggest we bring this thread to a close lest it digress to  
> a point all will regret.
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- 
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andy Preston
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 9:38 AM
> To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke
>
> John Kenner, I don't find it any less appropriate than you trying  
> to sell concert tickets to the group or renting out garage space.   
> If it helps anyone from being hurt from one of these scams I think  
> it would be beneficial.
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- 
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of JOHN KENNER
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 6:44 PM
> To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke
>
> Andy,
>
> I find your use of the club email list inappropriate.
>
> This list should be for NOBBC business and communication among  
> members.
>
> What do others think?
>
> JOHN KENNER
>
> 510 231 6803 OFFICE
> 415 806 2457 CELL
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- 
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andy Preston
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 4:35 PM
> To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
> Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke
>
> I donbt normally forward blanket emails but this one makes sense  
> and is important so please read, especially women.
>
>
>
> Andy
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: Steven Lilves [mailto:slilves at sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:45 PM
> To: undisclosed recipients:
> Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 10/5/11, John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
> From: John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net>
> Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke
> To: "John Hurabiell" <lotusman at pacbell.net>
> Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 12:20 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> o;?THIS IS IMPORTANT b PLEASE READ
>
> A  MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL:
>
> STATE OF MICHIGAN:
>
> SITUATION...
>
> While driving on a rural end of the roadway on Thursday morning, I  
> saw an infant car seat on the side of the road with a blanket  
> draped over it.
>
> For whatever reason, I did not stop, even though I had all kinds of  
> thoughts running through my head. But when I got to my destination,  
> I called the Canton PD and they were going to check it out. But,  
> this is what the Police advised even before they went out there to  
> check....
>
> "There are several things to be aware of... gangs and thieves are  
> now plotting different ways to get a person (mostly women) to stop  
> their vehicle and get out of the car.
>
> "There is a gang initiation reported by the local Police Department  
> where gangs are placing a car seat by the road... with a fake baby  
> in it....
> waiting
> for a woman, of course, to stop and check on the abandoned baby.
>
> "Note that the location of this car seat is usually beside a wooded  
> or grassy
> (field) area and the person -- woman -- will be dragged into the  
> woods, beaten and raped, and usually left for dead. If itbs a man,  
> theybre usually beaten and robbed and maybe left for dead, too.
>
> DO NOT STOP FOR ANY REASON!!!  DIAL 9-1-1 AND REPORT WHAT YOU SAW,  
> BUT DONbT EVEN SLOW DOWN.
>
> "IF YOU ARE DRIVING AT  NIGHT AND EGGS ARE THROWN AT YOUR  
> WINDSHIELD, DO NOT STOP TO CHECK THE CAR, DO NOT OPERATE THE WIPER  
> AND DO NOT SPRAY ANY WATER BECAUSE EGGS MIXED WITH WATER BECOME  
> MILKY AND BLOCK YOUR VISION UP TO 92.5%, AND YOU ARE THEN FORCED TO  
> STOP BESIDE THE ROAD AND BECOME A VICTIM OF THESE CRIMINALS.
>
> THIS IS A NEW TECHNIQUE USED BY GANGS, SO PLEASE INFORM YOUR  
> FRIENDS AND RELATIVES.
>
> THESE ARE DESPERATE TIMES AND THESE ARE UNSAVORY INDIVIDUALS WHO  
> WILL TAKE DESPERATE MEASURES TO GET WHAT THEY WANT."
>
> Please talk to your loved ones  about this. This is a new tactic used.
> Please
> be safe.
>
> Get started NOW -- SEND THIS  MESSAGE TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVED  
> ONES TO BE CAREFUL AND AWARE OF EVERYTHING AROUND THEM SO AS NOT TO  
> BECOME A VICTIM..
>
> WARNING  # 2
>
> Some knew about the red light on cars, but not the 112.  It was  
> about 1:00 p.m. in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a  
> friend. An UNMARKED police car pulled up behind her and put his  
> lights on. Laurenbs parents have always told her never to pull  
> over for an unmarked car on the side of the road, but rather to  
> wait until they get to a gas station, etc.
>
> Lauren had actually listened to her parents advice, and promptly  
> called 112 on her cell phone to tell the police dispatcher that she  
> would not pull over right away. She proceeded to tell the  
> dispatcher that there was an unmarked police car with a flashing  
> red light on his rooftop behind her. The dispatcher checked to see  
> if there were police cars where she was and there werenbt, and he  
> told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he had back up  
> already on the way.
>
> Ten minutes later 4 cop cars surrounded her and the unmarked car  
> behind her.
> One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car  
> behind.
> They
> pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground. The man  
> was a convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes.
>
> I never knew about the 112 Cell Phone feature, but especially for a  
> woman alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked  
> car.  Apparently police have to respect your right to keep going to  
> a safe place.
>
> *Speaking to a service representative at Bell Mobility confirmed  
> that 112 was a direct link to State trooper info. So, now itbs  
> your turn to let your friends know about 112.
>
> You may want to send this to every woman (and man) you know; it may  
> save a life.
>
> This applies to ALL 50 states - PLEASEPASS ALONG TO FRIENDS AND  
> FAMILY, IT CAN SAVE A LIFE....
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From bluesson at hotmail.com  Thu Oct  6 15:35:54 2011
From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 14:35:54 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Please read- not a joke
In-Reply-To: <20111006181914.BA6B2AE6A5@mail.dsl.napanet.net>
References: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom>,
	<003501cc83c9$6a45b480$3ed11d80$@TAMCAB.COM>,
	<20111006181914.BA6B2AE6A5@mail.dsl.napanet.net>
Message-ID: <BLU164-W54B633E30654343717BA2ED0F90@phx.gbl>

I can't see anything even close to COMING DOWN HARD in John Kenner's
comment/opinion.
 HARD would be calling him a lot of names and going on for 1,000 words. He put
his opinion concisely into one sentence.
  NO HARM NO FOUL. Toughen up, folks!!
  I thought  the truly inappropriate thing was the initial post that exposed
the mail list individual addresses.
  I run the worldwide Grinnall Scorpion group on yahoogroups, and we have a
lot of traffic. I can pick out a scammer or spammer before he gets to strike.
I have come to realize that a LOT of people who are online are gullible and
open and respond to emails that victimize them in one way or another. The
internet is still the wild west, and you best know how to protect yourselves.
IF you go around opening every email in your junk box, or responding to things
that look too good to be true, you're a surefire victim; not if, but when.
  Any suspicious looking email address should be avoided. One little trick I
use when dealing with people who want to join the Grinnall Scorpion group
is...I RUN the email address on google. If it's someone blanketing the
internet with scams, they pop up. The other measure is...put new members on
MODERATED status.
  This group seems pretty ripe for the picking, btw.
                                              Tom R

> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 11:18:56 -0700
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> From: don at napanet.net
> Subject: [Nobbc] Please read- not a joke
>
> I think that coming down so hard on someone for such a minor issue is
> inappropriate use of the club email.
>
>
>
>
> At 06:43 PM 10/5/2011, you wrote:
> >Andy,
> >
> >I find your use of the club email list inappropriate.
> >
> >This list should be for NOBBC business and communication among members.
> >
> >What do others think?
> >
> >JOHN KENNER
> >
> >510 231 6803 OFFICE
> >415 806 2457 CELL
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On
> >Behalf Of Andy Preston
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 4:35 PM
> >To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
> >Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke
> >
> >I donbt normally forward blanket emails but this one makes sense and is
> >important so please read, especially women.
> >
> >
> >
> >Andy
> >
> >
> >
> >   _____
> >
> >From: Steven Lilves [mailto:slilves at sbcglobal.net]
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:45 PM
> >To: undisclosed recipients:
> >Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- On Wed, 10/5/11, John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >From: John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net>
> >Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke
> >To: "John Hurabiell" <lotusman at pacbell.net>
> >Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 12:20 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >o;?THIS IS IMPORTANT bPLEASE READ
> >
> >A  MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL:
> >
> >STATE OF MICHIGAN:
> >
> >SITUATION...
> >
> >While driving on a rural end of the roadway on Thursday morning, I saw an
> >infant car seat on the side of the road with a blanket draped over it.
> >
> >For whatever reason, I did not stop, even though I had all kinds of
thoughts
> >running through my head. But when I got to my destination, I called the
> >Canton
> >PD and they were going to check it out. But, this is what the Police
advised
> >even before they went out there to check....
> >
> >"There are several things to be aware of... gangs and thieves are now
> >plotting
> >different ways to get a person (mostly women) to stop their vehicle and
get
> >out of the car.
> >
> >"There is a gang initiation reported by the local Police Department where
> >gangs are placing a car seat by the road... with a fake baby in it....
> >waiting
> >for a woman, of course, to stop and check on the abandoned baby.
> >
> >"Note that the location of this car seat is usually beside a wooded or
> >grassy
> >(field) area and the person -- woman -- will be dragged into the woods,
> >beaten
> >and raped, and usually left for dead. If itbs a man, theybre usually
> >beaten and robbed and maybe left for dead, too.
> >
> >DO NOT STOP FOR ANY REASON!!!  DIAL 9-1-1 AND REPORT WHAT YOU SAW, BUT
> >DONbT
> >EVEN SLOW DOWN.
> >
> >"IF YOU ARE DRIVING AT  NIGHT AND EGGS ARE THROWN AT YOUR WINDSHIELD, DO
> >NOT
> >STOP TO CHECK THE CAR, DO NOT OPERATE THE WIPER AND DO NOT SPRAY ANY WATER
> >BECAUSE EGGS MIXED WITH WATER BECOME MILKY AND BLOCK YOUR VISION UP TO
> >92.5%,
> >AND YOU ARE THEN FORCED TO STOP BESIDE THE ROAD AND BECOME A VICTIM OF
THESE
> >CRIMINALS.
> >
> >THIS IS A NEW TECHNIQUE USED BY GANGS, SO PLEASE INFORM YOUR FRIENDS AND
> >RELATIVES.
> >
> >THESE ARE DESPERATE TIMES AND THESE ARE UNSAVORY INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL TAKE
> >DESPERATE MEASURES TO GET WHAT THEY WANT."
> >
> >Please talk to your loved ones  about this. This is a new tactic used.
> >Please
> >be safe.
> >
> >Get started NOW -- SEND THIS  MESSAGE TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES
TO
> >BE
> >CAREFUL AND AWARE OF EVERYTHING AROUND THEM SO AS NOT TO BECOME A VICTIM..
> >
> >WARNING  # 2
> >
> >Some knew about the red light on cars, but not the 112.  It was about 1:00
> >p.m. in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a friend. An
UNMARKED
> >police car pulled up behind her and put his lights on. Laurenbs parents
> >have
> >always told her never to pull over for an unmarked car on the side of the
> >road, but rather to wait until they get to a gas station, etc.
> >
> >Lauren had actually listened to her parents advice, and promptly called
112
> >on
> >her cell phone to tell the police dispatcher that she would not pull over
> >right away. She proceeded to tell the dispatcher that there was an
unmarked
> >police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind her. The
> >dispatcher
> >checked to see if there were police cars where she was and there werenbt,
> >and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he had back up
already
> >on the way.
> >
> >Ten minutes later 4 cop cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behind
her.
> >One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car behind.
> >They
> >pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground. The man was a
> >convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes.
> >
> >I never knew about the 112 Cell Phone feature, but especially for a woman
> >alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked car.  Apparently
> >police have to respect your right to keep going to a safe place.
> >
> >*Speaking to a service representative at Bell Mobility confirmed that 112
> >was
> >a direct link to State trooper info. So, now itbs your turn to let your
> >friends know about 112.
> >
> >You may want to send this to every woman (and man) you know; it may save a
> >life.
> >
> >This applies to ALL 50 states - PLEASEPASS ALONG TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY, IT
> >CAN
> >SAVE A LIFE....
> >_______________________________________________
> >Nobbc at autox.team.net
> >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From mvg1 at att.net  Thu Oct  6 16:01:45 2011
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 15:01:45 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Please read- not a joke
References: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom><003501cc83c9$6a45b480$3ed11d80$@TAMCAB.COM>
	<20111006181914.BA6B2AE6A5@mail.dsl.napanet.net>
Message-ID: <D286CB1F00234A1C845A14C4F4B2997E@mike>

Communication is communication, and communication is good. I have seen this 
'urban legend' many times in the past, but as I cherish my wife and my 
daughter, I still took the time to forward it to both of them. A kind heart 
will do foolish things, and a little reminder of things gone wrong never 
hurts. Thank you Andy for the reminder.

Michael Gianandrea
64 TR4
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don" <don at napanet.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 11:18 AM
Subject: [Nobbc] Please read- not a joke


>I think that coming down so hard on someone for such a minor issue is 
>inappropriate use of the club email.
>
>
>
>
> At 06:43 PM 10/5/2011, you wrote:
>>Andy,
>>
>>I find your use of the club email list inappropriate.
>>
>>This list should be for NOBBC business and communication among members.
>>
>>What do others think?
>>
>>JOHN KENNER
>>
>>510 231 6803 OFFICE
>>415 806 2457 CELL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] 
>>On
>>Behalf Of Andy Preston
>>Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 4:35 PM
>>To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
>>Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke
>>
>>I donbt normally forward blanket emails but this one makes sense and is
>>important so please read, especially women.
>>
>>
>>
>>Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>   _____
>>
>>From: Steven Lilves [mailto:slilves at sbcglobal.net]
>>Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:45 PM
>>To: undisclosed recipients:
>>Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--- On Wed, 10/5/11, John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>From: John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net>
>>Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke
>>To: "John Hurabiell" <lotusman at pacbell.net>
>>Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 12:20 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>o;?THIS IS IMPORTANT bPLEASE READ
>>
>>A  MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL:
>>
>>STATE OF MICHIGAN:
>>
>>SITUATION...
>>
>>While driving on a rural end of the roadway on Thursday morning, I saw an
>>infant car seat on the side of the road with a blanket draped over it.
>>
>>For whatever reason, I did not stop, even though I had all kinds of 
>>thoughts
>>running through my head. But when I got to my destination, I called the
>>Canton
>>PD and they were going to check it out. But, this is what the Police 
>>advised
>>even before they went out there to check....
>>
>>"There are several things to be aware of... gangs and thieves are now
>>plotting
>>different ways to get a person (mostly women) to stop their vehicle and 
>>get
>>out of the car.
>>
>>"There is a gang initiation reported by the local Police Department where
>>gangs are placing a car seat by the road... with a fake baby in it....
>>waiting
>>for a woman, of course, to stop and check on the abandoned baby.
>>
>>"Note that the location of this car seat is usually beside a wooded or
>>grassy
>>(field) area and the person -- woman -- will be dragged into the woods,
>>beaten
>>and raped, and usually left for dead. If itbs a man, theybre usually
>>beaten and robbed and maybe left for dead, too.
>>
>>DO NOT STOP FOR ANY REASON!!!  DIAL 9-1-1 AND REPORT WHAT YOU SAW, BUT
>>DONbT
>>EVEN SLOW DOWN.
>>
>>"IF YOU ARE DRIVING AT  NIGHT AND EGGS ARE THROWN AT YOUR WINDSHIELD, DO
>>NOT
>>STOP TO CHECK THE CAR, DO NOT OPERATE THE WIPER AND DO NOT SPRAY ANY WATER
>>BECAUSE EGGS MIXED WITH WATER BECOME MILKY AND BLOCK YOUR VISION UP TO
>>92.5%,
>>AND YOU ARE THEN FORCED TO STOP BESIDE THE ROAD AND BECOME A VICTIM OF 
>>THESE
>>CRIMINALS.
>>
>>THIS IS A NEW TECHNIQUE USED BY GANGS, SO PLEASE INFORM YOUR FRIENDS AND
>>RELATIVES.
>>
>>THESE ARE DESPERATE TIMES AND THESE ARE UNSAVORY INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL TAKE
>>DESPERATE MEASURES TO GET WHAT THEY WANT."
>>
>>Please talk to your loved ones  about this. This is a new tactic used.
>>Please
>>be safe.
>>
>>Get started NOW -- SEND THIS  MESSAGE TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES 
>>TO
>>BE
>>CAREFUL AND AWARE OF EVERYTHING AROUND THEM SO AS NOT TO BECOME A VICTIM..
>>
>>WARNING  # 2
>>
>>Some knew about the red light on cars, but not the 112.  It was about 1:00
>>p.m. in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a friend. An 
>>UNMARKED
>>police car pulled up behind her and put his lights on. Laurenbs parents
>>have
>>always told her never to pull over for an unmarked car on the side of the
>>road, but rather to wait until they get to a gas station, etc.
>>
>>Lauren had actually listened to her parents advice, and promptly called 
>>112
>>on
>>her cell phone to tell the police dispatcher that she would not pull over
>>right away. She proceeded to tell the dispatcher that there was an 
>>unmarked
>>police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind her. The
>>dispatcher
>>checked to see if there were police cars where she was and there werenbt,
>>and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he had back up 
>>already
>>on the way.
>>
>>Ten minutes later 4 cop cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behind 
>>her.
>>One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car behind.
>>They
>>pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground. The man was a
>>convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes.
>>
>>I never knew about the 112 Cell Phone feature, but especially for a woman
>>alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked car.  Apparently
>>police have to respect your right to keep going to a safe place.
>>
>>*Speaking to a service representative at Bell Mobility confirmed that 112
>>was
>>a direct link to State trooper info. So, now itbs your turn to let your
>>friends know about 112.
>>
>>You may want to send this to every woman (and man) you know; it may save a
>>life.
>>
>>This applies to ALL 50 states - PLEASEPASS ALONG TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY, IT
>>CAN
>>SAVE A LIFE....
>>_______________________________________________
>>Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>Suggested annual donation  $11.47
>>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
>>Unsubscribe/Manage:
>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jkenner at tamcab.com
>>_______________________________________________
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>>-----
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From giannilarosa at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct  6 18:05:59 2011
From: giannilarosa at sbcglobal.net (gianni)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 17:05:59 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Please read- not a joke
In-Reply-To: <D286CB1F00234A1C845A14C4F4B2997E@mike>
References: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom><003501cc83c9$6a45b480$3ed11d80$@TAMCAB.COM>
	<20111006181914.BA6B2AE6A5@mail.dsl.napanet.net>
	<D286CB1F00234A1C845A14C4F4B2997E@mike>
Message-ID: <4ba1084f-e425-43de-9cc0-4a031eeb4e4a@blur>

For heaven sake, STOP!!! We just lost two of our members unexpectedly and  
you people are going on about simple, silly and ridiculous things.  Take a  
breather and smell the roses, or count me out as well.

Gianni LaRosa
62 MGA mkII. (Rosie)

Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless

-----Original message-----
From: Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net>
To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Oct 6, 2011 22:01:45 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Please read- not a joke

Communication is communication, and communication is good. I have seen this  
'urban legend' many times in the past, but as I cherish my wife and my  
daughter, I still took the time to forward it to both of them. A kind heart  
will do foolish things, and a little reminder of things gone wrong never  
hurts. Thank you Andy for the reminder.

Michael Gianandrea
64 TR4
----- Original Message ----- From: "Don" <don at napanet.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 11:18 AM
Subject: [Nobbc] Please read- not a joke


>I think that coming down so hard on someone for such a minor issue is  
>inappropriate use of the club email.
>
>
>
>
> At 06:43 PM 10/5/2011, you wrote:
>>Andy,
>>
>>I find your use of the club email list inappropriate.
>>
>>This list should be for NOBBC business and communication among members.
>>
>>What do others think?
>>
>>JOHN KENNER
>>
>>510 231 6803 OFFICE
>>415 806 2457 CELL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]  
>>On
>>Behalf Of Andy Preston
>>Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 4:35 PM
>>To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
>>Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Please read- not a joke
>>
>>I donbt normally forward blanket emails but this one makes sense and is
>>important so please read, especially women.
>>
>>
>>
>>Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>   _____
>>
>>From: Steven Lilves [mailto:slilves at sbcglobal.net]
>>Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:45 PM
>>To: undisclosed recipients:
>>Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--- On Wed, 10/5/11, John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>From: John Hurabiell <lotusman at pacbell.net>
>>Subject: FW: Please read- not a joke
>>To: "John Hurabiell" <lotusman at pacbell.net>
>>Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 12:20 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>o;?THIS IS IMPORTANT bPLEASE READ
>>
>>A  MESSAGE FROM THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL:
>>
>>STATE OF MICHIGAN:
>>
>>SITUATION...
>>
>>While driving on a rural end of the roadway on Thursday morning, I saw an
>>infant car seat on the side of the road with a blanket draped over it.
>>
>>For whatever reason, I did not stop, even though I had all kinds of  
>>thoughts
>>running through my head. But when I got to my destination, I called the
>>Canton
>>PD and they were going to check it out. But, this is what the Police  
>>advised
>>even before they went out there to check....
>>
>>"There are several things to be aware of... gangs and thieves are now
>>plotting
>>different ways to get a person (mostly women) to stop their vehicle and  
>>get
>>out of the car.
>>
>>"There is a gang initiation reported by the local Police Department where
>>gangs are placing a car seat by the road... with a fake baby in it....
>>waiting
>>for a woman, of course, to stop and check on the abandoned baby.
>>
>>"Note that the location of this car seat is usually beside a wooded or
>>grassy
>>(field) area and the person -- woman -- will be dragged into the woods,
>>beaten
>>and raped, and usually left for dead. If itbs a man, theybre usually
>>beaten and robbed and maybe left for dead, too.
>>
>>DO NOT STOP FOR ANY REASON!!!  DIAL 9-1-1 AND REPORT WHAT YOU SAW, BUT
>>DONbT
>>EVEN SLOW DOWN.
>>
>>"IF YOU ARE DRIVING AT  NIGHT AND EGGS ARE THROWN AT YOUR WINDSHIELD, DO
>>NOT
>>STOP TO CHECK THE CAR, DO NOT OPERATE THE WIPER AND DO NOT SPRAY ANY WATER
>>BECAUSE EGGS MIXED WITH WATER BECOME MILKY AND BLOCK YOUR VISION UP TO
>>92.5%,
>>AND YOU ARE THEN FORCED TO STOP BESIDE THE ROAD AND BECOME A VICTIM OF  
>>THESE
>>CRIMINALS.
>>
>>THIS IS A NEW TECHNIQUE USED BY GANGS, SO PLEASE INFORM YOUR FRIENDS AND
>>RELATIVES.
>>
>>THESE ARE DESPERATE TIMES AND THESE ARE UNSAVORY INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL TAKE
>>DESPERATE MEASURES TO GET WHAT THEY WANT."
>>
>>Please talk to your loved ones  about this. This is a new tactic used.
>>Please
>>be safe.
>>
>>Get started NOW -- SEND THIS  MESSAGE TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES  
>>TO
>>BE
>>CAREFUL AND AWARE OF EVERYTHING AROUND THEM SO AS NOT TO BECOME A VICTIM..
>>
>>WARNING  # 2
>>
>>Some knew about the red light on cars, but not the 112.  It was about 1:00
>>p.m. in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a friend. An  
>>UNMARKED
>>police car pulled up behind her and put his lights on. Laurenbs parents
>>have
>>always told her never to pull over for an unmarked car on the side of the
>>road, but rather to wait until they get to a gas station, etc.
>>
>>Lauren had actually listened to her parents advice, and promptly called  
>>112
>>on
>>her cell phone to tell the police dispatcher that she would not pull over
>>right away. She proceeded to tell the dispatcher that there was an  
>>unmarked
>>police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind her. The
>>dispatcher
>>checked to see if there were police cars where she was and there werenbt,
>>and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he had back up  
>>already
>>on the way.
>>
>>Ten minutes later 4 cop cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behind  
>>her.
>>One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car behind.
>>They
>>pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground. The man was a
>>convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes.
>>
>>I never knew about the 112 Cell Phone feature, but especially for a woman
>>alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked car.  Apparently
>>police have to respect your right to keep going to a safe place.
>>
>>*Speaking to a service representative at Bell Mobility confirmed that 112
>>was
>>a direct link to State trooper info. So, now itbs your turn to let your
>>friends know about 112.
>>
>>You may want to send this to every woman (and man) you know; it may save a
>>life.
>>
>>This applies to ALL 50 states - PLEASEPASS ALONG TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY, IT
>>CAN
>>SAVE A LIFE....
>>_______________________________________________
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From bluesson at hotmail.com  Thu Oct  6 21:28:50 2011
From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 20:28:50 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Please read- actually is a joke
In-Reply-To: <9410D779-748F-499A-8DDB-215528902313@sonic.net>
References: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom>,
	<003501cc83c9$6a45b480$3ed11d80$@TAMCAB.COM>,
	<9410D779-748F-499A-8DDB-215528902313@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <BLU164-W30C21C14A8C67481CBF877D0FE0@phx.gbl>

  Yeah sure, expect for the fact that it's absolutely B-O-G-U-S.  It pays to
do a two minute search on the internet before forwarding things, folks. Too
much garbage on the internet...like my posts to this group, eh? Yeah, the rich
IRONY of my lengthy rant. I know. You really expect someone who drives a three
wheel UK car to be sensible??
                                                Tom R

> From: mewgull at sonic.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 00:14:17 -0700
> Subject: [Nobbc] Please read- actually is a joke
>
> Okay it's not important club news but I think it applies to this crowd:
>
>
>
>
>
> G. Mugele
> mewgull at mugele.net
>
> *** Nothing takes the taste out of peanut butter quite like
> unrequited love. -- Charles M. Schulz
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Thu Oct  6 23:43:09 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 22:43:09 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Please read- actually is a joke
In-Reply-To: <BLU164-W30C21C14A8C67481CBF877D0FE0@phx.gbl>
References: <C4079221607440A3947F66687FBDF77A@BonusRoom>,
	<003501cc83c9$6a45b480$3ed11d80$@TAMCAB.COM>,
	<9410D779-748F-499A-8DDB-215528902313@sonic.net>
	<BLU164-W30C21C14A8C67481CBF877D0FE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <D2D89F5898454F43ABA9233DA734F3B5@williamsonPC>

Hahahahhaha....love it all.  All good stuff.  Life is short, so let's drive 
...fast like Ron would have it.  That's what the club is good at.
See you soon.
Deb (not Clif)

-----Original Message----- 
From: Tom Reier
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 8:28 PM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Please read- actually is a joke

  Yeah sure, expect for the fact that it's absolutely B-O-G-U-S.  It pays to
do a two minute search on the internet before forwarding things, folks. Too
much garbage on the internet...like my posts to this group, eh? Yeah, the 
rich
IRONY of my lengthy rant. I know. You really expect someone who drives a 
three
wheel UK car to be sensible??
                                                Tom R

> From: mewgull at sonic.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 00:14:17 -0700
> Subject: [Nobbc] Please read- actually is a joke
>
> Okay it's not important club news but I think it applies to this crowd:
>
>
>
>
>
> G. Mugele
> mewgull at mugele.net
>
> *** Nothing takes the taste out of peanut butter quite like
> unrequited love. -- Charles M. Schulz
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From bettymiller at cds1.net  Fri Oct  7 09:15:53 2011
From: bettymiller at cds1.net (Betty Miller)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 08:15:53 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday's Ride
In-Reply-To: <4E8C7443.9020309@gmail.com>
References: <000201cc835c$c23cb4d0$46b61e70$@TAMCAB.COM>
	<4E8C7443.9020309@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003001cc8504$0374a040$0a5de0c0$@cds1.net>

Sounds fun. I'll try my best to make time to attend.
Betty

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 8:14 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Saturday's Ride

  Sounds good. See you at 10am at Bad Ass Coffee.

Greg Tatarian



On 10/5/2011 5:46 AM, JOHN KENNER wrote:
> Hello British Car Nuts,
>
>
>
> I thought I'd like to lead a ride to St. Helena over the St. Helena Road
on
>
> Saturday and have lunch at what was once Taylor's Refresher.
>
>
>
> It looks like fine weather on Saturday.
>
>
>
> So if that's ok with the rest of you,  you may not want to pack a lunch
>
> or bring a chair. Still need gas though!
>
>
>
> Sayonara,
>
>
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Fri Oct  7 14:27:14 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 13:27:14 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] A gift from Candy Englehardt
Message-ID: <4E8F60A2.70207@gmail.com>

  Hello Folks,

In appreciation for the efforts of Tim, John, Clif, Sarto and myself in 
getting Ron's car running, cleaned up, and it and all parts corralled 
and assessed, Candy has graciously given us a gift certificate in memory 
of Ron, to Mary's Pizza Shack in the amount of $150.00.

Let's propose some potential dates when we might get together as a club 
to enjoy a meal, remember Ron, and get to know each other better. 
October may be best, since the holidays will soon be upon us.

Best to you all,

Greg

From hawkview at sonic.net  Fri Oct  7 14:34:43 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 13:34:43 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday's Ride
In-Reply-To: <003001cc8504$0374a040$0a5de0c0$@cds1.net>
References: <000201cc835c$c23cb4d0$46b61e70$@TAMCAB.COM><4E8C7443.9020309@gmail.com>
	<003001cc8504$0374a040$0a5de0c0$@cds1.net>
Message-ID: <21E722ACA2E3486DAFA70AC6DB4EF9D5@williamsonPC>

Deb Williamson needs a ride with someone.  We have our brother in law from 
Canada riding with Clif.
Anyone have an empty seat?
Thanks,
74 J. H.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Betty Miller
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 8:15 AM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Saturday's Ride

Sounds fun. I'll try my best to make time to attend.
Betty

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 8:14 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Saturday's Ride

  Sounds good. See you at 10am at Bad Ass Coffee.

Greg Tatarian



On 10/5/2011 5:46 AM, JOHN KENNER wrote:
> Hello British Car Nuts,
>
>
>
> I thought I'd like to lead a ride to St. Helena over the St. Helena Road
on
>
> Saturday and have lunch at what was once Taylor's Refresher.
>
>
>
> It looks like fine weather on Saturday.
>
>
>
> So if that's ok with the rest of you,  you may not want to pack a lunch
>
> or bring a chair. Still need gas though!
>
>
>
> Sayonara,
>
>
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
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From apexbrit2 at gmail.com  Fri Oct  7 16:46:07 2011
From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 15:46:07 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Goodwood Car Show
Message-ID: <CAJ=wuU6nOf7Niu=sjZcA4mZe-kVCstFQcoVAOHiFdKxV_JC+eg@mail.gmail.com>

Here's some Brit car related fun:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/goodwood-revival/8771634/The-Spirit-of-Goodwood-2011.html

While you are at it, check out the Morris tow truck, the D Type Jag and for
those who are aerophiles, the restored 1940 Spit.

Cheers, Rj

From jkenner at tamcab.com  Fri Oct  7 17:00:42 2011
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (JOHN KENNER)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 16:00:42 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] A gift from Candy Englehardt
In-Reply-To: <4E8F60A2.70207@gmail.com>
References: <4E8F60A2.70207@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004701cc8544$f1d01cc0$d5705640$@TAMCAB.COM>

lets go now, I'm hungry

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 OFFICE
415 806 2457 CELL




-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 1:27 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] A gift from Candy Englehardt

  Hello Folks,

In appreciation for the efforts of Tim, John, Clif, Sarto and myself in
getting Ron's car running, cleaned up, and it and all parts corralled and
assessed, Candy has graciously given us a gift certificate in memory of Ron,
to Mary's Pizza Shack in the amount of $150.00.

Let's propose some potential dates when we might get together as a club to
enjoy a meal, remember Ron, and get to know each other better. 
October may be best, since the holidays will soon be upon us.

Best to you all,

Greg
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From drmartyrayman at gmail.com  Fri Oct  7 18:36:32 2011
From: drmartyrayman at gmail.com (Martin Sinai Rayman)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 17:36:32 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Goodwood Car Show
In-Reply-To: <CAJ=wuU6nOf7Niu=sjZcA4mZe-kVCstFQcoVAOHiFdKxV_JC+eg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ=wuU6nOf7Niu=sjZcA4mZe-kVCstFQcoVAOHiFdKxV_JC+eg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL99TMpD=ZHffwVFKamzyGc8nNK5T=3inp2EKxwo=EVF9YaL7g@mail.gmail.com>

I went to the Good Revival in 2006. The following is the article that I
wrote for The Wind Machine, the voice of the Sorry Safari Touring Club.
Enjoy if so desired. Marty Rayman '53 TD:





*NASCAR MEETS MY FAIR LADY*

* *

*By Marty Rayman*



In the Fall of 2005 my wife, Naomi, asked where I would like to travel for
my 60th birthday celebration, in August 2006.  Without a second thought I
said to England for the Goodwood Revival in Chichester.  If you love vintage
(pre-1966) motorcars and aeroplanes and are an anglophile, this is a trip of
a lifetime.

I started planning the trip by myself.  I soon found that hotels close to
Chichester were booked for the September weekend of the Revival, almost one
year in advance.  Furthermore, coordinating an adventure, including hiring a
vintage motorcar suitable for touring the English countryside, became a
daunting task.  I had noticed an advertisement in *Classic Motorsports *for
a trip to the Goodwood Festival of Speed and a nine day tour of England in
a classic British sports car July 7-15, 2006.  I contacted the company
www.englandspecials.com, spoke to company co-owner Andy Tyacke and found
that they would be providing a similar package for the Revival that would
take place on September 1st- 3rd of 2006.  My wife and I agreed that the
hefty price tag was fair for what it included.  We sent off our deposit and
planned our trip over the internet and with a few phone calls with Andy.  We
were on our way to the Ninth Goodwood Revival and were in for some extra
special treats.



During World War II the Earl of Marchs estate was used by the R.A.F. as a
base. The several squadrons of Spitfires stationed here aided destroying
more than 1,000 enemy aircraft between July 10th and September 15th, 1940 in
what became known as the Battle of Britain.  After the war, the Earl of
March transformed the road surrounding the airfield into a racetrack.  By
1966, the cars became too fast for the track and the races ceased.  Nine
years ago, the lords grandson, Charles March revived the races and this
past September we attended the Ninth Goodwood Revival. See
http://www.goodwood.co.uk/revival.

In 2007, the Revival will be on American television.  The website will have
details.



Attendees are encouraged to wear apparel from 1966 and before, and if one
arrived in a motorcar of the same era, special parking was provided.  On
Friday, there were practice races and air displays and both Saturday and
Sunday there were motorcar and motorcycle races, air displays (Spitfires and
Mustangs) and two special parades. One parade honored Phil Hill, with many
of the cars that he had driven to victory.  Another parade was in
celebration of the Magnificent Microcar. We particularly enjoyed two of
the races.  The St. Marys Trophy was for production salon cars of a type
that raced between 1950 and 1959.  Seven Austins took part.  The Brooklands
Trophy was for cars of a type that raced at Brooklands prior to 1939.  These
racing cars, including 4 MGs, thundered around the track. Austin Healeys
were well represented in the Freddie March Memorial Trophy and the
Floodwater Trophy, with one driven by Stirling Moss. Each day there was
music, food, beer and libation. Attendees, performers, exhibitors, as well
as those dishing our refreshments, and many attendees were in period dress.
Even the trash was collected in trailers hauled by vintage Rovers (all
looked like Defenders) or W.W.II jeeps with the staff wearing Cockney
costumes.  My wife said it looked like NASCAR Meets My Fair Lady.



The excitement began as we approached Chichester; the traffic slowed to a
crawl and we noticed in the queues of traffic Morris Minors, TVRs, Aston
Martins, Austins, bug-eyed Sprites, MGs, Jaguars, and Rovers.  Even vintage
buses and lorries were part of this Goodwood-bound crowd.  When we entered
the grounds there were helicopters flying overhead. Our assigned car park,
for our Lavant Grandstand Seating (I would recommend seats in that
grandstand), was chock full of vintage automobiles plus beautiful examples
of modern English roadsters. For example, MG Fs were in abundance.  As we
got out of our car the air was permeated with the smell of Castrol and
filled with the thundering sound of massive engines.  The sights were all
hidden behind massive hedgerows.  And then, a Spitfire, wheels down for
landing, came roaring low overhead and we knew we were in for a special,
thrilling experience.  Andy Tyacke accompanied us.  He was a fount of
knowledge regarding vintage motorcars and racing.  In the evenings we stayed
at an elegant estate, which had been turned into a hotel.  Many other hotel
guests were also there to attend the Revival.  One group was the Luxembourg
Ferrari Club and the hotels circular drive was filled with eight Ferraris.




On Monday, we picked up our hired motorcar.  I had requested a Triumph TR6.
I wanted a back seat for extra luggage and roll up windows and snug top in
case of inclement weather.  Whilst still at home, we had been notified that
the TR 6 we had reserved had ended up in hospital.  As a result, for no
extra charge, we were given an upgrade roadster.  We were introduced to our
1965 Austin Healey  3000 MKIII (YEE HA!). For nine days of motoring, we had
glorious sunshine and warm, and humid weather.  Our English driving
adventure began with a stop at Stonehendge to witness the full-moon rise and
then we were off to Stow-on-the-Wold for four days of touring the Cotswalds.
Some experiences included the Morgan Works in Malvern, the Motor Museum in
Bourton on the Water, the Upton House and miles of motoring through hedgerow
lines roads and encounters with round-abouts and excellent English food and
drink including the requisite cream tea.  We managed to fill up at fueling
stations, mind the verge (which is the shoulder and particularly important
because we had 4 = inches of clearance on the left), mind the non-self
canceling winker (turn signal, mounted non-ergonomically in the center of
the steering wheel), deal with the dip switch on the floor next to the
clutch, depress the throttle whilst engaging the electronic overdrive in 3rdor
4
th, realize who had priority or preference (right of way), understand that
the yellow stop light comes *after* the red, before turning green, alerting
one to shift into gear, drive on the left, shift on the left (the easiest
part) and of course negotiate those round-a-bouts!



Originally the tour was to include four other hired motorcars and
Andy.  Instead
the other drivers decided to attend the July Goodwood Festival of Speed.  We
had paid our money and Andy Tyacke of England Specials, a true English
gentleman (from Cornwall), said the trip would go on as planned. He brought
along his delightful wife, Inge, and we had, essentially, a private tour
with two wonderful people as our guides.  Andy, an educator in a former
life, was extremely knowledgeable about English history, botany, beer, gin,
motorcars and everything else in between.  After five days of motoring in
tandem, the Tyackes went their way and my wife and I were on our own.  Andy
had provided us with maps, brochures and excellent driving instructions.  He
developed a manual just for our adventure.



We drove on to Sway to be close to attend the internationally known,
two-day, Autojumble (auto flea market) and National Motor Museum in nearby
Beaulieu (buelee).  The autojumble was acres and acres of vintage cars,
auctions, car parts, bicycles, motor cycles and automobilia.  A shopping
list and comfortable shoes are a must.  The thousands of attendees were from
all over the world. After spending the night in Hindon.  We negotiated the M
motorways at 75 mph to Lamberhurst where we had one last lunch in an English
pub and returned the Healey.  That last pub visit provided my favorite beer
to date, Harveys Sussex Best Bitter.  I was so adept at English driving by
that point, with less than a pint, I ably negotiated our way back to the
drop off point.  As a special thank you to my white knuckled wife for
navigating so ably and not digging her fingernails too deeply into the dash,
we took the Euro Star from Ashford, through the Chunnel to spend two and one
half days in Paris.  In Paris we found that walking and the Metro provided a
welcome respite from motorcars.  Anyway, wheres the fun in driving on the
right?



Both my wife and I would recommend this experience without hesitation.  But,
using Andy Tyacke of England Specials is the best piece of advice we can
give you.  That, and to mind your winker.  Believe me, the challenges of
English driving in a vintage motorcar will take anyones mind off turning
60.



If you have any desire to make our adventure yours, please call us or e-mail
for details and recommendations.


On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Robin Jackson <apexbrit2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here's some Brit car related fun:
>
>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/goodwood-revival/8771634/The-Spirit-of-Go
odwood-2011.html
>
> While you are at it, check out the Morris tow truck, the D Type Jag and for
> those who are aerophiles, the restored 1940 Spit.
>
> Cheers, Rj
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Fri Oct  7 18:47:07 2011
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (JOHN KENNER)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 17:47:07 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] taylors refresher
Message-ID: <000001cc8553$ceeed480$6ccc7d80$@TAMCAB.COM>

here is a link to the menu at Taylors Refresher, now called Gotts Roadside,

 

http://www.zagat.com/r/gotts-roadside-tray-gourmet-st-helena/menu

 

I am going to drive my leaky old funky lbc there tomorrow and have 

a spicy chicken sandwich. What are you going to have?

 

Does this thing send links?

 

For those that want to bring their own, we have never been harassed there
for people eating there bag lunches with us.

 

See you all tomorrow at 10am at Bad Ass Coffee! Bring a full tank of gas and
an appetite.

 

 

 

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From bettymiller at cds1.net  Fri Oct  7 18:47:23 2011
From: bettymiller at cds1.net (Betty Miller)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 17:47:23 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday's Ride
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Yes, I have room. Do you need me to pick you up?
Betty
539-3654 H
481-0924 C
-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 1:35 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Saturday's Ride

Deb Williamson needs a ride with someone.  We have our brother in law from
Canada riding with Clif.
Anyone have an empty seat?
Thanks,
74 J. H.

-----Original Message-----
From: Betty Miller
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 8:15 AM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Saturday's Ride

Sounds fun. I'll try my best to make time to attend.
Betty

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 8:14 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Saturday's Ride

  Sounds good. See you at 10am at Bad Ass Coffee.

Greg Tatarian



On 10/5/2011 5:46 AM, JOHN KENNER wrote:
> Hello British Car Nuts,
>
>
>
> I thought I'd like to lead a ride to St. Helena over the St. Helena 
> Road
on
>
> Saturday and have lunch at what was once Taylor's Refresher.
>
>
>
> It looks like fine weather on Saturday.
>
>
>
> So if that's ok with the rest of you,  you may not want to pack a 
> lunch
>
> or bring a chair. Still need gas though!
>
>
>
> Sayonara,
>
>
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Fri Oct  7 20:09:18 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 19:09:18 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] A gift from Candy Englehardt
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Doesn't get much sweeter than that, does it?
Clif and Deborah  74 JH

-----Original Message----- 
From: Greg Tatarian
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 1:27 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] A gift from Candy Englehardt

  Hello Folks,

In appreciation for the efforts of Tim, John, Clif, Sarto and myself in
getting Ron's car running, cleaned up, and it and all parts corralled
and assessed, Candy has graciously given us a gift certificate in memory
of Ron, to Mary's Pizza Shack in the amount of $150.00.

Let's propose some potential dates when we might get together as a club
to enjoy a meal, remember Ron, and get to know each other better.
October may be best, since the holidays will soon be upon us.

Best to you all,

Greg
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From ldc1940 at gmail.com  Fri Oct  7 20:24:34 2011
From: ldc1940 at gmail.com (Leroy Churches)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 19:24:34 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday's Ride
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On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Betty Miller <bettymiller at cds1.net> wrote:

> Yes, I have room. Do you need me to pick you up?
> Betty
> 539-3654 H
> 481-0924 C
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On
> Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 1:35 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Saturday's Ride
>
> Deb Williamson needs a ride with someone.  We have our brother in law from
> Canada riding with Clif.
> Anyone have an empty seat?
> Thanks,
> 74 J. H.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Betty Miller
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 8:15 AM
> To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Saturday's Ride
>
> Sounds fun. I'll try my best to make time to attend.
> Betty
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On
> Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 8:14 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Saturday's Ride
>
>  Sounds good. See you at 10am at Bad Ass Coffee.
>
> Greg Tatarian
>
>
>
> On 10/5/2011 5:46 AM, JOHN KENNER wrote:
> > Hello British Car Nuts,
> >
> >
> >
> > I thought I'd like to lead a ride to St. Helena over the St. Helena
> > Road
> on
> >
> > Saturday and have lunch at what was once Taylor's Refresher.
> >
> >
> >
> > It looks like fine weather on Saturday.
> >
> >
> >
> > So if that's ok with the rest of you,  you may not want to pack a
> > lunch
> >
> > or bring a chair. Still need gas though!
> >
> >
> >
> > Sayonara,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > JOHN KENNER
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Fri Oct  7 22:24:35 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 21:24:35 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday's Ride
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Thanks so much Betty
We just spoke on the phone, so see you in the AM.  Looking forward to 
meeting you and doing the ride.  No rock sitting this time...LOL
Call your friend and hope he can join us.
Deb

-----Original Message----- 
From: Leroy Churches
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 7:24 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Saturday's Ride

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Betty Miller <bettymiller at cds1.net> wrote:

> Yes, I have room. Do you need me to pick you up?
> Betty
> 539-3654 H
> 481-0924 C
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On
> Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 1:35 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Saturday's Ride
>
> Deb Williamson needs a ride with someone.  We have our brother in law from
> Canada riding with Clif.
> Anyone have an empty seat?
> Thanks,
> 74 J. H.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Betty Miller
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 8:15 AM
> To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Saturday's Ride
>
> Sounds fun. I'll try my best to make time to attend.
> Betty
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On
> Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 8:14 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Saturday's Ride
>
>  Sounds good. See you at 10am at Bad Ass Coffee.
>
> Greg Tatarian
>
>
>
> On 10/5/2011 5:46 AM, JOHN KENNER wrote:
> > Hello British Car Nuts,
> >
> >
> >
> > I thought I'd like to lead a ride to St. Helena over the St. Helena
> > Road
> on
> >
> > Saturday and have lunch at what was once Taylor's Refresher.
> >
> >
> >
> > It looks like fine weather on Saturday.
> >
> >
> >
> > So if that's ok with the rest of you,  you may not want to pack a
> > lunch
> >
> > or bring a chair. Still need gas though!
> >
> >
> >
> > Sayonara,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > JOHN KENNER
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Sat Oct  8 08:50:25 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 07:50:25 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Drive today
Message-ID: <4E906331.7010705@gmail.com>

Hi Folks,
We're not gonna make it today, which is a bummer, because it looks like 
it will be a gorgeous day. I was pretty much over my cold but had to 
help a roofer make a correction to the new roof a few days ago and he 
was sick, so sure enough, I've had a relapse and with all my coughing, I 
don't want to share the misery with any of you. Trish is going to stay 
here to commiserate with me.
Please take pictures!
Greg and Trish Tatarian

From apexbrit2 at gmail.com  Sat Oct  8 12:20:38 2011
From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 11:20:38 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Goodwood Car Show
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Marty - A great read. What a wonderful trip.

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com
> wrote:

> I went to the Good Revival in 2006. The following is the article that I
> wrote for The Wind Machine, the voice of the Sorry Safari Touring Club.
> Enjoy if so desired. Marty Rayman '53 TD:
>
>
>
>
>
> *NASCAR MEETS MY FAIR LADY*
>
> * *
>
> *By Marty Rayman*
>
>
>
> In the Fall of 2005 my wife, Naomi, asked where I would like to travel for
> my 60th birthday celebration, in August 2006.  Without a second thought I
> said to England for the Goodwood Revival in Chichester.  If you love
> vintage
> (pre-1966) motorcars and aeroplanes and are an anglophile, this is a trip
> of
> a lifetime.
>
> I started planning the trip by myself.  I soon found that hotels close to
> Chichester were booked for the September weekend of the Revival, almost one
> year in advance.  Furthermore, coordinating an adventure, including hiring
> a
> vintage motorcar suitable for touring the English countryside, became a
> daunting task.  I had noticed an advertisement in *Classic Motorsports *for
> a trip to   the Goodwood Festival of Speed and a nine day tour of England
> in
> a classic British sports car  July 7-15, 2006.  I contacted the company
> www.englandspecials.com, spoke to company co-owner Andy Tyacke and found
> that they would be providing a similar package for the Revival that would
> take place on September 1st- 3rd of 2006.  My wife and I agreed that the
> hefty price tag was fair for what it included.  We sent off our deposit and
> planned our trip over the internet and with a few phone calls with Andy.
>  We
> were on our way to the Ninth Goodwood Revival and were in for some extra
> special treats.
>
>
>
> During World War II the Earl of March s estate was used by the R.A.F. as a
> base. The several squadrons of Spitfires stationed here aided destroying
> more than 1,000 enemy aircraft between July 10th and September 15th, 1940
> in
> what became known as the Battle of Britain.  After the war, the Earl of
> March transformed the road surrounding the airfield into a racetrack.  By
> 1966, the cars became too fast for the track and the races ceased.  Nine
> years ago, the lord s grandson, Charles March revived the races and this
> past September we attended the Ninth Goodwood Revival. See
> http://www.goodwood.co.uk/revival.
>
> In 2007, the Revival will be on American television.  The website will have
> details.
>
>
>
> Attendees are encouraged to wear apparel from 1966 and before, and if one
> arrived in a motorcar of the same era, special parking was provided.  On
> Friday, there were practice races and air displays and both Saturday and
> Sunday there were motorcar and motorcycle races, air displays (Spitfires
> and
> Mustangs) and two special parades. One parade honored Phil Hill, with many
> of the cars that he had driven to victory.  Another parade was in
> celebration of the  Magnificent Microcar.  We particularly enjoyed two of
> the races.  The St. Mary s Trophy was for production salon cars of a type
> that raced between 1950 and 1959.  Seven Austin s took part.  The
> Brooklands
> Trophy was for cars of a type that raced at Brooklands prior to 1939.
>  These
> racing cars, including 4 MG s, thundered around the track. Austin Healey s
> were well represented in the Freddie March Memorial Trophy and the
> Floodwater Trophy, with one driven by Stirling Moss. Each day there was
> music, food, beer and libation. Attendees, performers, exhibitors, as well
> as those dishing our refreshments, and many attendees were in period dress.
> Even the trash was collected in trailers hauled by vintage Rovers (all
> looked like Defenders) or W.W.II jeeps with the staff wearing Cockney
> costumes.  My wife said it looked like  NASCAR Meets My Fair Lady.
>
>
>
> The excitement began as we approached Chichester; the traffic slowed to a
> crawl and we noticed in the queues of traffic Morris Minors, TVR s, Aston
> Martins, Austins, bug-eyed Sprites, MG s, Jaguars, and Rovers.  Even
> vintage
> buses and lorries were part of this Goodwood-bound crowd.  When we entered
> the grounds there were helicopters flying overhead. Our assigned car park,
> for our Lavant Grandstand Seating (I would recommend seats in that
> grandstand), was chock full of vintage automobiles plus beautiful examples
> of modern English roadsters. For example, MG F s were in abundance.  As we
> got out of our car the air was permeated with the smell of Castrol and
> filled with the thundering sound of massive engines.  The sights were all
> hidden behind massive hedgerows.  And then, a Spitfire, wheels down for
> landing, came roaring low overhead and we knew we were in for a special,
> thrilling experience.  Andy Tyacke accompanied us.  He was a fount of
> knowledge regarding vintage motorcars and racing.  In the evenings we
> stayed
> at an elegant estate, which had been turned into a hotel.  Many other hotel
> guests were also there to attend the Revival.  One group was the Luxembourg
> Ferrari Club and the hotel s circular drive was filled with eight Ferraris.
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, we picked up our hired motorcar.  I had requested a Triumph TR6.
> I wanted a back seat for extra luggage and roll up windows and snug top in
> case of inclement weather.  Whilst still at home, we had been notified that
> the TR 6 we had reserved had ended up in hospital.  As a result, for no
> extra charge, we were given an upgrade roadster.  We were introduced to our
> 1965 Austin Healey  3000 MKIII (YEE HA!). For nine days of motoring, we had
> glorious sunshine and warm, and humid weather.  Our English driving
> adventure began with a stop at Stonehendge to witness the full-moon rise
> and
> then we were off to Stow-on-the-Wold for four days of touring the
> Cotswalds.
> Some experiences included the Morgan Works in Malvern, the Motor Museum in
> Bourton on the Water, the Upton House and miles of motoring through
> hedgerow
> lines roads and encounters with round-abouts and excellent English food and
> drink including the requisite cream tea.  We managed to fill up at fueling
> stations, mind the verge (which is the shoulder and particularly important
> because we had 4 = inches of clearance on the left), mind the non-self
> canceling winker (turn signal, mounted non-ergonomically in the center of
> the steering wheel), deal with the dip switch on the floor next to the
> clutch, depress the throttle whilst engaging the electronic overdrive in
> 3rdor
> 4
> th, realize who had priority or preference (right of way), understand that
> the yellow stop light comes *after* the red, before turning green, alerting
> one to shift into gear, drive on the left, shift on the left (the easiest
> part) and of course negotiate those round-a-bouts!
>
>
>
> Originally the tour was to include four other hired motorcars and
> Andy.  Instead
> the other drivers decided to attend the July Goodwood Festival of Speed.
>  We
> had paid our money and Andy Tyacke of England Specials, a true English
> gentleman (from Cornwall), said the trip would go on as planned. He brought
> along his delightful wife, Inge, and we had, essentially, a private tour
> with two wonderful people as our guides.  Andy, an educator in a former
> life, was extremely knowledgeable about English history, botany, beer, gin,
> motorcars and everything else in between.  After five days of motoring in
> tandem, the Tyacke s went their way and my wife and I were on our own.
>  Andy
> had provided us with maps, brochures and excellent driving instructions.
>  He
> developed a manual just for our adventure.
>
>
>
> We drove on to Sway to be close to attend the internationally known,
> two-day, Autojumble (auto flea market) and National Motor Museum in nearby
> Beaulieu (buelee).  The autojumble was acres and acres of vintage cars,
> auctions, car parts, bicycles, motor cycles and automobilia.  A shopping
> list and comfortable shoes are a must.  The thousands of attendees were
> from
> all over the world. After spending the night in Hindon.  We negotiated the
> M
> motorways at 75 mph to Lamberhurst where we had one last lunch in an
> English
> pub and returned the Healey.  That last pub visit provided my favorite beer
> to date, Harvey s Sussex Best Bitter.  I was so adept at English driving by
> that point, with less than a pint, I ably negotiated our way back to the
> drop off point.  As a special thank you to my white knuckled wife for
> navigating so ably and not digging her fingernails too deeply into the
> dash,
> we took the Euro Star from Ashford, through the Chunnel to spend two and
> one
> half days in Paris.  In Paris we found that walking and the Metro provided
> a
> welcome respite from motorcars.  Anyway, where s the fun in driving on the
> right?
>
>
>
> Both my wife and I would recommend this experience without hesitation.
>  But,
> using Andy Tyacke of England Specials is the best piece of advice we can
> give you.  That, and to mind your winker.  Believe me, the challenges of
> English driving in a vintage motorcar will take anyone s mind off turning
> 60.
>
>
>
> If you have any desire to make our adventure yours, please call us or
> e-mail
> for details and recommendations.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Robin Jackson <apexbrit2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Here's some Brit car related fun:
> >
> >
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/goodwood-revival/8771634/The-Spirit-of-Go
> odwood-2011.html
> >
> > While you are at it, check out the Morris tow truck, the D Type Jag and
> for
> > those who are aerophiles, the restored 1940 Spit.
> >
> > Cheers, Rj
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From dodea495 at hotmail.com  Sat Oct  8 18:53:35 2011
From: dodea495 at hotmail.com (Dennis O'Dea)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 17:53:35 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Todays drive
In-Reply-To: <4E906331.7010705@gmail.com>
References: <4E906331.7010705@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT137-W269764ADA7E2207B57C1839CFC0@phx.gbl>

Hey John,

Great drive and lunch stop today.   It was a good route to learn how to drive
Ron's old MGA, still need more practice.  We did not get many pictures today.
I was concentrating on driving the MGA, and Sheryl was making sure I would not
run into her due to my funky brakes.

Dennis & Sheryl

From markdarley at mac.com  Sat Oct  8 21:58:43 2011
From: markdarley at mac.com (MARK DARLEY)
Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 20:58:43 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Todays drive
In-Reply-To: <SNT137-W269764ADA7E2207B57C1839CFC0@phx.gbl>
References: <4E906331.7010705@gmail.com>
	<SNT137-W269764ADA7E2207B57C1839CFC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1C3FBEF6-8E6D-4F78-A33F-984258C1FD89@mac.com>

Funky brakes? Make that simply bog standard MGA drums. Welcome to the MGA!

Sorry to miss the drive today.  I am sure it was a beautiful drive.  Next time....

Mark
"Mahitabel" '57 MGA

"wotthehell wotthehell
there's a dance in the old dame yet"  Don Marquis.

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 8, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Dennis O'Dea <dodea495 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hey John,
> 
> Great drive and lunch stop today.   It was a good route to learn how to drive
> Ron's old MGA, still need more practice.  We did not get many pictures today.
> I was concentrating on driving the MGA, and Sheryl was making sure I would not
> run into her due to my funky brakes.
> 
> Dennis & Sheryl
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From andrewdoran at berkeley.edu  Sat Oct  8 23:13:47 2011
From: andrewdoran at berkeley.edu (Andrew S. Doran)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 22:13:47 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Todays drive
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	<SNT137-W269764ADA7E2207B57C1839CFC0@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <dd69e092c9bbbb539efc0b139feee8be.squirrel@calmail.berkeley.edu>

I got a few pictures that I can post to facebook. Great drive. My brakes
got really hot coming down that hill and trying to keep up with that
Jensen Healey!

Best,

Andrew '79 Spitfire


> Funky brakes? Make that simply bog standard MGA drums. Welcome to the MGA!
>
> Sorry to miss the drive today.  I am sure it was a beautiful drive.  Next
> time....
>
> Mark
> "Mahitabel" '57 MGA
>
> "wotthehell wotthehell
> there's a dance in the old dame yet"  Don Marquis.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 8, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Dennis O'Dea <dodea495 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey John,
>>
>> Great drive and lunch stop today.   It was a good route to learn how to
>> drive
>> Ron's old MGA, still need more practice.  We did not get many pictures
>> today.
>> I was concentrating on driving the MGA, and Sheryl was making sure I
>> would not
>> run into her due to my funky brakes.
>>
>> Dennis & Sheryl
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Sat Oct  8 23:14:32 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 22:14:32 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Todays drive
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	<SNT137-W269764ADA7E2207B57C1839CFC0@phx.gbl>
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YOU DID GREAT Dennis.  Was a fun short trip. So much fun to be riding with 
the gang!!! The weather was perfect.
Love the new guys too. Keep on driving with us.  See you next ride.
Deb
74 J.H. Good rid in the Lotus with John. WOW.


-----Original Message----- 
From: Dennis O'Dea
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 5:53 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] Todays drive

Hey John,

Great drive and lunch stop today.   It was a good route to learn how to 
drive
Ron's old MGA, still need more practice.  We did not get many pictures 
today.
I was concentrating on driving the MGA, and Sheryl was making sure I would 
not
run into her due to my funky brakes.

Dennis & Sheryl
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Sat Oct  8 23:32:00 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 22:32:00 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Todays drive
In-Reply-To: <SNT137-W269764ADA7E2207B57C1839CFC0@phx.gbl>
References: <4E906331.7010705@gmail.com>
	<SNT137-W269764ADA7E2207B57C1839CFC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <F8BF2F975E66489A95249A16D19FD792@williamsonPC>

love it.  We push our car to start.  Good times...good rides.
Deb 74 J.H.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dennis O'Dea
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 5:53 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] Todays drive

Hey John,

Great drive and lunch stop today.   It was a good route to learn how to 
drive
Ron's old MGA, still need more practice.  We did not get many pictures 
today.
I was concentrating on driving the MGA, and Sheryl was making sure I would 
not
run into her due to my funky brakes.

Dennis & Sheryl
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From dan at drummondlaw.com  Sun Oct  9 08:44:22 2011
From: dan at drummondlaw.com (Daniel Drummond)
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 07:44:22 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Todays drive
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	<SNT137-W269764ADA7E2207B57C1839CFC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E0902695694@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>

What a perfect day, the kind that comes along once in a blue moon.  I didn't want it to end.  Good to see Ron's MGA back with us.  Thanks, Sheryl, for pointing my nose in the right direction home.  

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dennis O'Dea
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 5:54 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] Todays drive

Hey John,

Great drive and lunch stop today.   It was a good route to learn how to drive
Ron's old MGA, still need more practice.  We did not get many pictures today.
I was concentrating on driving the MGA, and Sheryl was making sure I would not run into her due to my funky brakes.

Dennis & Sheryl
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Sun Oct  9 11:06:11 2011
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (JOHN KENNER)
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 10:06:11 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Todays drive and Our Next Ride
Message-ID: <000001cc86a5$bfc86950$3f593bf0$@TAMCAB.COM>

It was a lovely short ride on a super series of roads and a great day for
it.

Thanks to my co-pilot Deb we made it through the back roads of Santa Rosa
and onto St. Helena road. 

After lunch, as often happens, we split up into several different directions

and all made our way home.

The next scheduled ride will be on Saturday October 22nd.

I think Sheryl has volunteered to be our ride leader so expect
to hear more about it from her.

Oh, one more thing as discussed at lunch yesterday. Going forward all my
emails concerning
ride schedules will have the subject line " our next ride ".
That way members that are only interested in receiving ride schedule info
and
no other chatter can delete all NOBBC emails that do not have that subject
line.

Happy Trails.

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 OFFICE
415 806 2457 CELL



-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Daniel Drummond
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 7:44 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Todays drive

What a perfect day, the kind that comes along once in a blue moon.  I didn't
want it to end.  Good to see Ron's MGA back with us.  Thanks, Sheryl, for
pointing my nose in the right direction home.  

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Dennis O'Dea
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 5:54 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] Todays drive

Hey John,

Great drive and lunch stop today.   It was a good route to learn how to
drive
Ron's old MGA, still need more practice.  We did not get many pictures
today.
I was concentrating on driving the MGA, and Sheryl was making sure I would
not run into her due to my funky brakes.

Dennis & Sheryl
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From bettymiller at cds1.net  Sun Oct  9 22:05:17 2011
From: bettymiller at cds1.net (Betty Miller)
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 21:05:17 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Todays drive
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	<SNT137-W269764ADA7E2207B57C1839CFC0@phx.gbl>
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I had a good time. Froggy ('48) had a little trouble keeping up.
Betty

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Daniel Drummond
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 7:44 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Todays drive

What a perfect day, the kind that comes along once in a blue moon.  I didn't
want it to end.  Good to see Ron's MGA back with us.  Thanks, Sheryl, for
pointing my nose in the right direction home.  

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Dennis O'Dea
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 5:54 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] Todays drive

Hey John,

Great drive and lunch stop today.   It was a good route to learn how to
drive
Ron's old MGA, still need more practice.  We did not get many pictures
today.
I was concentrating on driving the MGA, and Sheryl was making sure I would
not run into her due to my funky brakes.

Dennis & Sheryl
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Mon Oct 10 09:29:45 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:29:45 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
Message-ID: <4E930F69.5080108@gmail.com>

Hi Folks,

This was posted on one of the Triumph lists that Mark Bradakis hosts, 
along with the NOBBC's on autox.team.net:

> most of you know that the out of pocket expenses for
> keeping Team.Net on the air is covered by a fund drive.  Once a year
> I send out *one* message requesting donations.  As I type this I am
> listening to the radio, one of the greatest stations on earth, KRCL.
> [ krcl.org ]  They have fund drives twice a year, each of which lasts
> nine days.  Today is the last day of the fall pledge drive, thankfully.
>
> Aren't you glad I don't constantly harp about donations 18 days out
> of the year?
>
> mjb. 

I have yet to hear back from Mark after 7 or 8 emails regarding getting 
me fully set up as administrator for this list, but maybe if we send 
some money his way and let him know it's for the NOBBC list he'll pay 
attention.

Thank you,

Greg Tatarian

From markdarley at mac.com  Mon Oct 10 11:10:07 2011
From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:10:07 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
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References: <4E930F69.5080108@gmail.com>
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Maybe we say we will send him money when he responds to you!?

Mark Darley
markdarley at mac.com
Mobile Phone 415 310 5252



On Oct 10, 2011, at 8:29 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> This was posted on one of the Triumph lists that Mark Bradakis  
> hosts, along with the NOBBC's on autox.team.net:
>
>> most of you know that the out of pocket expenses for
>> keeping Team.Net on the air is covered by a fund drive.  Once a year
>> I send out *one* message requesting donations.  As I type this I am
>> listening to the radio, one of the greatest stations on earth, KRCL.
>> [ krcl.org ]  They have fund drives twice a year, each of which lasts
>> nine days.  Today is the last day of the fall pledge drive,  
>> thankfully.
>>
>> Aren't you glad I don't constantly harp about donations 18 days out
>> of the year?
>>
>> mjb.
>
> I have yet to hear back from Mark after 7 or 8 emails regarding  
> getting me fully set up as administrator for this list, but maybe  
> if we send some money his way and let him know it's for the NOBBC  
> list he'll pay attention.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Greg Tatarian
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From wbain at sonic.net  Mon Oct 10 14:35:07 2011
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:35:07 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Goodwood Car Show
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Thanks Robin. Pretty great stuff. Especially the early Spitfire. The  
short nose D-Type
is really interesting.

Cheers,

Wendell

On Oct 7, 2011, at 3:46 PM, Robin Jackson wrote:

> Here's some Brit car related fun:
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/goodwood-revival/8771634/The- 
> Spirit-of-Goodwood-2011.html
>
> While you are at it, check out the Morris tow truck, the D Type Jag  
> and for
> those who are aerophiles, the restored 1940 Spit.
>
> Cheers, Rj
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Mon Oct 10 16:18:20 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:18:20 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
In-Reply-To: <CFACA89A-6859-4D9F-8C81-5EDB646C0BA6@mac.com>
References: <4E930F69.5080108@gmail.com>
	<CFACA89A-6859-4D9F-8C81-5EDB646C0BA6@mac.com>
Message-ID: <4E936F2C.10208@gmail.com>

  Hi Mark,
Based on conversations with Ron in the past, I don't think Mark Bradakis 
is all that interested in hosting our club, but Ron was successful in 
talking him into it and convincing him there would be much lower 
bandwidth used compared to most of his other lists.
Besides, if he wanted money before helping sort things out after Ron's 
death, why not just ask for it? All very puzzling.
Greg




On 10/10/2011 10:10 AM, Mark Darley wrote:
> Maybe we say we will send him money when he responds to you!?
>
> Mark Darley
> markdarley at mac.com
> Mobile Phone 415 310 5252

From cuthroat at live.com  Mon Oct 10 17:32:23 2011
From: cuthroat at live.com (Cuthroat - Mel Cohen)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:32:23 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
In-Reply-To: <4E936F2C.10208@gmail.com>
References: <4E930F69.5080108@gmail.com>,
	<CFACA89A-6859-4D9F-8C81-5EDB646C0BA6@mac.com>,
	<4E936F2C.10208@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT139-W2C042A66546DCE38B8287A1FD0@phx.gbl>

I am no computer guy, but I belong to several group who use Yahoo Groups. From
what I can tell it is free and handles all the communication between the
members. It also keeps track of all past conversations.
Mel Cohen95 Morgan Plus 8

> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:18:20 -0700
> From: gtwincams at gmail.com
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
>
>   Hi Mark,
> Based on conversations with Ron in the past, I don't think Mark Bradakis
> is all that interested in hosting our club, but Ron was successful in
> talking him into it and convincing him there would be much lower
> bandwidth used compared to most of his other lists.
> Besides, if he wanted money before helping sort things out after Ron's
> death, why not just ask for it? All very puzzling.
> Greg
>
>
>
>
> On 10/10/2011 10:10 AM, Mark Darley wrote:
> > Maybe we say we will send him money when he responds to you!?
> >
> > Mark Darley
> > markdarley at mac.com
> > Mobile Phone 415 310 5252
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From inim_mini at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 10 19:16:03 2011
From: inim_mini at yahoo.com (Rick Anderson)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:16:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] Test - ignore please
Message-ID: <1318295763.87708.YahooMailClassic@web39502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I've been trying to post to this board without success.  Please ignore this if
it does happen to come through!  

From inim_mini at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 10 19:35:51 2011
From: inim_mini at yahoo.com (Rick Anderson)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:35:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
In-Reply-To: <SNT139-W2C042A66546DCE38B8287A1FD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1318296951.72558.YahooMailClassic@web39501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Google groups is much better in my opinion but Yahoo is also good. 

--- On Mon, 10/10/11, Cuthroat - Mel Cohen <cuthroat at live.com> wrote:

From: Cuthroat - Mel Cohen <cuthroat at live.com>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, October 10, 2011, 4:32 PM

I am no computer guy, but I belong to several group who use Yahoo Groups.
From
what I can tell it is free and handles all the communication between the
members. It also keeps track of all past conversations.
Mel Cohen95 Morgan Plus 8

> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:18:20 -0700
> From: gtwincams at gmail.com
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
>
>   Hi Mark,
> Based on conversations with Ron in the past, I don't think Mark Bradakis
> is all that interested in hosting our club, but Ron was successful in
> talking him into it and convincing him there would be much lower
> bandwidth used compared to most of his other lists.
> Besides, if he wanted money before helping sort things out after Ron's
> death, why not just ask for it? All very puzzling.
> Greg
>
>
>
>
> On 10/10/2011 10:10 AM, Mark Darley wrote:
> > Maybe we say we will send him money when he responds to you!?
> >
> > Mark Darley
> > markdarley at mac.com
> > Mobile Phone 415 310 5252
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Mon Oct 10 20:13:53 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:13:53 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
In-Reply-To: <SNT139-W2C042A66546DCE38B8287A1FD0@phx.gbl>
References: <4E930F69.5080108@gmail.com>,
	<CFACA89A-6859-4D9F-8C81-5EDB646C0BA6@mac.com>,
	<4E936F2C.10208@gmail.com>
	<SNT139-W2C042A66546DCE38B8287A1FD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4E93A661.1050101@gmail.com>

Hi Mel,

I am also a member of several Yahoo Groups, and that is my preference as 
well. They can be set up so that there are sections for specific 
subjects, which allows people to decide what they want to read or 
ignore. There are also sections for files, photos, links, and other 
topics, even off-topic chatting.

There are a couple of concerns; it is web-based, which means there is 
some risk of malicious scripts that can be uploaded to the group via 
html. The other is that there are banners and ads, which some people 
really object to (but they are more subtle than Facebook, in my opinion).

Another option I've been exploring is Google Groups, but that has the 
same concerns, and I'm not happy with the interface. There are premium 
email forum and discussion board hosting services, but they cost money. 
Since we don't charge dues, I don't want to get us on the hook for a 
paid service.

I'd like to look further into Yahoo Groups, but would want to get a 
better idea from members whether this would be acceptable.

Thanks for your comments, Mel,

Greg

From paigetheman at gmail.com  Mon Oct 10 21:49:26 2011
From: paigetheman at gmail.com (D Paige)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:49:26 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
In-Reply-To: <1318296951.72558.YahooMailClassic@web39501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4e93bcc0.a3cfe70a.0ab0.ffffaf4a@mx.google.com>

Keep in mind all of you that Mark has kept groups going on at least 20 years
that support British cars of many stripes and types and Marquea. He makes no
$$$ on his efforts and at least from my point of view the lists he supports
are a valuable source for all of our cars. If you haven't logged into the
group for your Marque you are missing a great asset. I send some $$ every
year and will continue to. Marc does have to make a living like all of us
and he does the LBCs marques a great service. I think that Ron is turning in
his grave over the carping over the small stuff.

The grousing over the past weeks on a couple of minor issues has disturbed
me as a founding member of NOBBC with many of you being downright nasty the
small stuff. That does not bode well. Get a grip folks this is supposed to
be fun. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. CHILL!!!

Deano  

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Rick Anderson
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 6:36 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net

Google groups is much better in my opinion but Yahoo is also good. 

--- On Mon, 10/10/11, Cuthroat - Mel Cohen <cuthroat at live.com> wrote:

From: Cuthroat - Mel Cohen <cuthroat at live.com>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, October 10, 2011, 4:32 PM

I am no computer guy, but I belong to several group who use Yahoo Groups.
From
what I can tell it is free and handles all the communication between the
members. It also keeps track of all past conversations.
Mel Cohen95 Morgan Plus 8

> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:18:20 -0700
> From: gtwincams at gmail.com
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
>
>   Hi Mark,
> Based on conversations with Ron in the past, I don't think Mark Bradakis
> is all that interested in hosting our club, but Ron was successful in
> talking him into it and convincing him there would be much lower
> bandwidth used compared to most of his other lists.
> Besides, if he wanted money before helping sort things out after Ron's
> death, why not just ask for it? All very puzzling.
> Greg
>
>
>
>
> On 10/10/2011 10:10 AM, Mark Darley wrote:
> > Maybe we say we will send him money when he responds to you!?
> >
> > Mark Darley
> > markdarley at mac.com
> > Mobile Phone 415 310 5252
> _______________________________________________
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Tue Oct 11 08:05:38 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:05:38 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
In-Reply-To: <4e93bcc0.a3cfe70a.0ab0.ffffaf4a@mx.google.com>
References: <4e93bcc0.a3cfe70a.0ab0.ffffaf4a@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <4E944D32.8090503@gmail.com>

Hi Dean,

Good points about Mark, thanks. You're right, this is supposed to be a 
fun club, which is why I sent an earlier email about how to use this 
forum in a responsible way. My comments on trying to communicate with 
Mark should not be lumped with the other comments about other topics by 
other members recently.

I am also unpaid for my volunteer efforts, yet have spent about 45 hours 
since Ron's passing (while also running my business), working on all of 
the administrative issues for the club, along with helping Ron's widow 
get his car running and sold and trying to help connect her with helpful 
resources. I've also held club parties and tech sessions at my house and 
elsewhere, and led numerous drives, all as a volunteer member of the 
club, which I think shows I have invested a lot in the NOBBC over the 
past 6-7 years.

The club now has about 140 members, with this being the main way to 
communicate among ourselves. I don't think Ron wanted the club to die 
with him, but access to most of our resources have suffered as a result. 
We still have a web site we have little control over, an email forum 
with no moderator control, and a Facebook account with no moderator 
control. It's easier to just let things flow when there are 20-30 
members but now that there is a web presence, social networking, and all 
of this with no way for me, also an unpaid volunteer, to handle the 
duties, you might be able to understand my frustration at Mark not 
responding to 7 or 8 very friendly, very polite emails.

I have also asked you previously for the information on the club web 
hosting service that you so generously pay for (and I regularly remind 
members about your ongoing contribution, Dean) since Tcherek is ready to 
pass on the web mistress job. Would it be possible to get that 
information from you so that we can make that transition? Tcherek has 
done a very kind service for free for our club over the years, but is 
ready to hand it over. Better yet, could you notify the web hosting 
service that the password has been lost and establish a new one so we 
can edit the web site?

It would be great to keep our email forum with Mark, because it's 
text-based, simple, and free, and would make my life easier, if we can 
make it work. I'm just trying to help, Dean, and not slamming anyone. I 
asked you in the very beginning if you objected to my stepping in to 
take over these duties, and you didn't indicate you had a problem with 
it, but if you do, please let me know before I spend more of my time if 
you would prefer yourself or someone else do this work.

Greg



On 10/10/2011 8:49 PM, D Paige wrote:
> Keep in mind all of you that Mark has kept groups going on at least 20 years
> that support British cars of many stripes and types and Marquea. He makes no
> $$$ on his efforts and at least from my point of view the lists he supports
> are a valuable source for all of our cars. If you haven't logged into the
> group for your Marque you are missing a great asset. I send some $$ every
> year and will continue to. Marc does have to make a living like all of us
> and he does the LBCs marques a great service. I think that Ron is turning in
> his grave over the carping over the small stuff.
>
> The grousing over the past weeks on a couple of minor issues has disturbed
> me as a founding member of NOBBC with many of you being downright nasty the
> small stuff. That does not bode well. Get a grip folks this is supposed to
> be fun. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. CHILL!!!
>
> Deano

From mvg1 at att.net  Tue Oct 11 10:32:08 2011
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:32:08 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
References: <4e93bcc0.a3cfe70a.0ab0.ffffaf4a@mx.google.com>
	<4E944D32.8090503@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6EA57EC7CB064F329D95039D8B29A8D9@mike>

Hi Greg,

My two cents.

A freebie job is a thankless job at best, certainly in this situation, so 
thank you very much for picking up the reigns on this and keeping the club 
together. But as you point out, it requires a lot of time and effort to keep 
things rolling, and your time is precious, being self employed. I give you 
this suggestion, if you have his number, call Mark tomorrow AM, before 8 
o'clock, and if you can't raise him, then let'e set up an account with 
Yahoo, and move on. If Mark is unresponsive, and Yahoo has the resources we 
need at no cost, then it's a simple decision. We can communicate via email, 
post pics and notices etc., not have to wait for someone who doesn't care 
enough to reply. You are doing a wonderful job so far, and spending too much 
time running in circles. I would be willing to send Mark a contribution for 
his services, but if he is not providing that service, let's save our money 
and move on.

Michael Gianandrea
64 TR4
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Tatarian" <gtwincams at gmail.com>
To: <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net


> Hi Dean,
>
> Good points about Mark, thanks. You're right, this is supposed to be a fun 
> club, which is why I sent an earlier email about how to use this forum in 
> a responsible way. My comments on trying to communicate with Mark should 
> not be lumped with the other comments about other topics by other members 
> recently.
>
> I am also unpaid for my volunteer efforts, yet have spent about 45 hours 
> since Ron's passing (while also running my business), working on all of 
> the administrative issues for the club, along with helping Ron's widow get 
> his car running and sold and trying to help connect her with helpful 
> resources. I've also held club parties and tech sessions at my house and 
> elsewhere, and led numerous drives, all as a volunteer member of the club, 
> which I think shows I have invested a lot in the NOBBC over the past 6-7 
> years.
>
> The club now has about 140 members, with this being the main way to 
> communicate among ourselves. I don't think Ron wanted the club to die with 
> him, but access to most of our resources have suffered as a result. We 
> still have a web site we have little control over, an email forum with no 
> moderator control, and a Facebook account with no moderator control. It's 
> easier to just let things flow when there are 20-30 members but now that 
> there is a web presence, social networking, and all of this with no way 
> for me, also an unpaid volunteer, to handle the duties, you might be able 
> to understand my frustration at Mark not responding to 7 or 8 very 
> friendly, very polite emails.
>
> I have also asked you previously for the information on the club web 
> hosting service that you so generously pay for (and I regularly remind 
> members about your ongoing contribution, Dean) since Tcherek is ready to 
> pass on the web mistress job. Would it be possible to get that information 
> from you so that we can make that transition? Tcherek has done a very kind 
> service for free for our club over the years, but is ready to hand it 
> over. Better yet, could you notify the web hosting service that the 
> password has been lost and establish a new one so we can edit the web 
> site?
>
> It would be great to keep our email forum with Mark, because it's 
> text-based, simple, and free, and would make my life easier, if we can 
> make it work. I'm just trying to help, Dean, and not slamming anyone. I 
> asked you in the very beginning if you objected to my stepping in to take 
> over these duties, and you didn't indicate you had a problem with it, but 
> if you do, please let me know before I spend more of my time if you would 
> prefer yourself or someone else do this work.
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> On 10/10/2011 8:49 PM, D Paige wrote:
>> Keep in mind all of you that Mark has kept groups going on at least 20 
>> years
>> that support British cars of many stripes and types and Marquea. He makes 
>> no
>> $$$ on his efforts and at least from my point of view the lists he 
>> supports
>> are a valuable source for all of our cars. If you haven't logged into the
>> group for your Marque you are missing a great asset. I send some $$ every
>> year and will continue to. Marc does have to make a living like all of us
>> and he does the LBCs marques a great service. I think that Ron is turning 
>> in
>> his grave over the carping over the small stuff.
>>
>> The grousing over the past weeks on a couple of minor issues has 
>> disturbed
>> me as a founding member of NOBBC with many of you being downright nasty 
>> the
>> small stuff. That does not bode well. Get a grip folks this is supposed 
>> to
>> be fun. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. CHILL!!!
>>
>> Deano
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From paigetheman at gmail.com  Tue Oct 11 19:37:16 2011
From: paigetheman at gmail.com (D Paige)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:37:16 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
In-Reply-To: <4E944D32.8090503@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4e94ef44.8201e70a.1bf8.35bb@mx.google.com>

I'll get the info for Godaddy host site as soon as I can. Mostly my input
for the website is paying the small monthly base rate for Godaddy. I get to
it so seldom that I have to dive into my brain for the access. Will look
through my passwords and see how to work the transfer. My previous amour Jan
Shapan set the thing up and I just paid the bills. Are there great problems
with the list? If not, the rest can be dealt with as possible. Most
important thing for me is the list. Getting the photos of rides etc could be
supported with Godddy. Knowing of when and where we are going is primary in
my mind. More as I figure this out.

Deano



-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:06 AM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net

Hi Dean,

Good points about Mark, thanks. You're right, this is supposed to be a 
fun club, which is why I sent an earlier email about how to use this 
forum in a responsible way. My comments on trying to communicate with 
Mark should not be lumped with the other comments about other topics by 
other members recently.

I am also unpaid for my volunteer efforts, yet have spent about 45 hours 
since Ron's passing (while also running my business), working on all of 
the administrative issues for the club, along with helping Ron's widow 
get his car running and sold and trying to help connect her with helpful 
resources. I've also held club parties and tech sessions at my house and 
elsewhere, and led numerous drives, all as a volunteer member of the 
club, which I think shows I have invested a lot in the NOBBC over the 
past 6-7 years.

The club now has about 140 members, with this being the main way to 
communicate among ourselves. I don't think Ron wanted the club to die 
with him, but access to most of our resources have suffered as a result. 
We still have a web site we have little control over, an email forum 
with no moderator control, and a Facebook account with no moderator 
control. It's easier to just let things flow when there are 20-30 
members but now that there is a web presence, social networking, and all 
of this with no way for me, also an unpaid volunteer, to handle the 
duties, you might be able to understand my frustration at Mark not 
responding to 7 or 8 very friendly, very polite emails.

I have also asked you previously for the information on the club web 
hosting service that you so generously pay for (and I regularly remind 
members about your ongoing contribution, Dean) since Tcherek is ready to 
pass on the web mistress job. Would it be possible to get that 
information from you so that we can make that transition? Tcherek has 
done a very kind service for free for our club over the years, but is 
ready to hand it over. Better yet, could you notify the web hosting 
service that the password has been lost and establish a new one so we 
can edit the web site?

It would be great to keep our email forum with Mark, because it's 
text-based, simple, and free, and would make my life easier, if we can 
make it work. I'm just trying to help, Dean, and not slamming anyone. I 
asked you in the very beginning if you objected to my stepping in to 
take over these duties, and you didn't indicate you had a problem with 
it, but if you do, please let me know before I spend more of my time if 
you would prefer yourself or someone else do this work.

Greg



On 10/10/2011 8:49 PM, D Paige wrote:
> Keep in mind all of you that Mark has kept groups going on at least 20
years
> that support British cars of many stripes and types and Marquea. He makes
no
> $$$ on his efforts and at least from my point of view the lists he
supports
> are a valuable source for all of our cars. If you haven't logged into the
> group for your Marque you are missing a great asset. I send some $$ every
> year and will continue to. Marc does have to make a living like all of us
> and he does the LBCs marques a great service. I think that Ron is turning
in
> his grave over the carping over the small stuff.
>
> The grousing over the past weeks on a couple of minor issues has disturbed
> me as a founding member of NOBBC with many of you being downright nasty
the
> small stuff. That does not bode well. Get a grip folks this is supposed to
> be fun. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. CHILL!!!
>
> Deano
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From dan at drummondlaw.com  Tue Oct 11 20:38:48 2011
From: dan at drummondlaw.com (Daniel Drummond)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:38:48 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
In-Reply-To: <4E944D32.8090503@gmail.com>
References: <4e93bcc0.a3cfe70a.0ab0.ffffaf4a@mx.google.com>
	<4E944D32.8090503@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E090269618F@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>

Greg,

Rest assured your efforts are recognized and appreciated.  Don't be put off by a few ill-informed comments.  Keep your eye on the ball and ignore the detractors.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:06 AM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net

Hi Dean,

Good points about Mark, thanks. You're right, this is supposed to be a fun club, which is why I sent an earlier email about how to use this forum in a responsible way. My comments on trying to communicate with Mark should not be lumped with the other comments about other topics by other members recently.

I am also unpaid for my volunteer efforts, yet have spent about 45 hours since Ron's passing (while also running my business), working on all of the administrative issues for the club, along with helping Ron's widow get his car running and sold and trying to help connect her with helpful resources. I've also held club parties and tech sessions at my house and elsewhere, and led numerous drives, all as a volunteer member of the club, which I think shows I have invested a lot in the NOBBC over the past 6-7 years.

The club now has about 140 members, with this being the main way to communicate among ourselves. I don't think Ron wanted the club to die with him, but access to most of our resources have suffered as a result. 
We still have a web site we have little control over, an email forum with no moderator control, and a Facebook account with no moderator control. It's easier to just let things flow when there are 20-30 members but now that there is a web presence, social networking, and all of this with no way for me, also an unpaid volunteer, to handle the duties, you might be able to understand my frustration at Mark not responding to 7 or 8 very friendly, very polite emails.

I have also asked you previously for the information on the club web hosting service that you so generously pay for (and I regularly remind members about your ongoing contribution, Dean) since Tcherek is ready to pass on the web mistress job. Would it be possible to get that information from you so that we can make that transition? Tcherek has done a very kind service for free for our club over the years, but is ready to hand it over. Better yet, could you notify the web hosting service that the password has been lost and establish a new one so we can edit the web site?

It would be great to keep our email forum with Mark, because it's text-based, simple, and free, and would make my life easier, if we can make it work. I'm just trying to help, Dean, and not slamming anyone. I asked you in the very beginning if you objected to my stepping in to take over these duties, and you didn't indicate you had a problem with it, but if you do, please let me know before I spend more of my time if you would prefer yourself or someone else do this work.

Greg



On 10/10/2011 8:49 PM, D Paige wrote:
> Keep in mind all of you that Mark has kept groups going on at least 20 
> years that support British cars of many stripes and types and Marquea. 
> He makes no $$$ on his efforts and at least from my point of view the 
> lists he supports are a valuable source for all of our cars. If you 
> haven't logged into the group for your Marque you are missing a great 
> asset. I send some $$ every year and will continue to. Marc does have 
> to make a living like all of us and he does the LBCs marques a great 
> service. I think that Ron is turning in his grave over the carping over the small stuff.
>
> The grousing over the past weeks on a couple of minor issues has 
> disturbed me as a founding member of NOBBC with many of you being 
> downright nasty the small stuff. That does not bode well. Get a grip 
> folks this is supposed to be fun. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. CHILL!!!
>
> Deano
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From techyes at pacbell.net  Tue Oct 11 21:45:35 2011
From: techyes at pacbell.net (Sheryl)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:45:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
In-Reply-To: <4E944D32.8090503@gmail.com>
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1. A big thanks to Greg. He has done a lot.
2. Do you notice that we can all use/abuse this and not one message has been 
dropped? The club email list is *still* working just fine and is not broken. 
Perhaps we should send over a little $$. He is not asking for that much. 

Ever try not putting wood in your wood stove and demanding heat? "I'll give you 
some wood when you put out some warmth!"
3. Take a deep breath and relax a little. The cars are wonderful. All of you are 
great. 

4. Maybe 'save as draft' and re-check a reply before you send to the group.

"if it ain't broke, don't fix it"

So far, everything is (sort of) the same as it was in the middle of summer.
Allow some time (for computer-based @#$%) and keep on driving the LBC you love! 

Sheryl and Dennis




________________________________
From: Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, October 11, 2011 7:05:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net

Hi Dean,

Good points about Mark, thanks. You're right, this is supposed to be a fun club, 
which is why I sent an earlier email about how to use this forum in a 
responsible way. My comments on trying to communicate with Mark should not be 
lumped with the other comments about other topics by other members recently.

I am also unpaid for my volunteer efforts, yet have spent about 45 hours since 
Ron's passing (while also running my business), working on all of the 
administrative issues for the club, along with helping Ron's widow get his car 
running and sold and trying to help connect her with helpful resources. I've 
also held club parties and tech sessions at my house and elsewhere, and led 
numerous drives, all as a volunteer member of the club, which I think shows I 
have invested a lot in the NOBBC over the past 6-7 years.

The club now has about 140 members, with this being the main way to communicate 
among ourselves. I don't think Ron wanted the club to die with him, but access 
to most of our resources have suffered as a result. We still have a web site we 
have little control over, an email forum with no moderator control, and a 
Facebook account with no moderator control. It's easier to just let things flow 
when there are 20-30 members but now that there is a web presence, social 
networking, and all of this with no way for me, also an unpaid volunteer, to 
handle the duties, you might be able to understand my frustration at Mark not 
responding to 7 or 8 very friendly, very polite emails.

I have also asked you previously for the information on the club web hosting 
service that you so generously pay for (and I regularly remind members about 
your ongoing contribution, Dean) since Tcherek is ready to pass on the web 
mistress job. Would it be possible to get that information from you so that we 
can make that transition? Tcherek has done a very kind service for free for our 
club over the years, but is ready to hand it over. Better yet, could you notify 
the web hosting service that the password has been lost and establish a new one 
so we can edit the web site?

It would be great to keep our email forum with Mark, because it's text-based, 
simple, and free, and would make my life easier, if we can make it work. I'm 
just trying to help, Dean, and not slamming anyone. I asked you in the very 
beginning if you objected to my stepping in to take over these duties, and you 
didn't indicate you had a problem with it, but if you do, please let me know 
before I spend more of my time if you would prefer yourself or someone else do 
this work.

Greg



On 10/10/2011 8:49 PM, D Paige wrote:
> Keep in mind all of you that Mark has kept groups going on at least 20 years
> that support British cars of many stripes and types and Marquea. He makes no
> $$$ on his efforts and at least from my point of view the lists he supports
> are a valuable source for all of our cars. If you haven't logged into the
> group for your Marque you are missing a great asset. I send some $$ every
> year and will continue to. Marc does have to make a living like all of us
> and he does the LBCs marques a great service. I think that Ron is turning in
> his grave over the carping over the small stuff.
> 
> The grousing over the past weeks on a couple of minor issues has disturbed
> me as a founding member of NOBBC with many of you being downright nasty the
> small stuff. That does not bode well. Get a grip folks this is supposed to
> be fun. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. CHILL!!!
> 
> Deano
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Tue Oct 11 21:55:57 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:55:57 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
In-Reply-To: <4e94ef44.8201e70a.1bf8.35bb@mx.google.com>
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On 10/11/2011 6:37 PM, D Paige wrote:
> I'll get the info for Godaddy host site as soon as I can. Mostly my input
> for the website is paying the small monthly base rate for Godaddy. I get to
> it so seldom that I have to dive into my brain for the access. Will look
> through my passwords and see how to work the transfer.
That would be great. All we need is the user name and password so that 
we can make needed updates and changes to the web site.
> My previous amour Jan
> Shapan set the thing up and I just paid the bills. Are there great problems
> with the list?
Do you mean this email forum? No great problems, but I'd say the main 
issue is the inability for an administrator to handle blocking hacked or 
infected emails, or assist members with subscription issues; the bigger 
issues are the web site, which is way out of date, and the Facebook 
account, which has no administrator, so no way to add new people or 
moderate the content.
>   If not, the rest can be dealt with as possible. Most
> important thing for me is the list.
Just to be clear, when you say the list, do you mean this email forum? 
As I said above, I think the web site and Facebook are the bigger concerns.
>   Getting the photos of rides etc could be
> supported with Godddy.
That requires a web master/mistress, since members can't post to the web 
site. In order to allow members to post pictures, we need a photo 
hosting site, or Facebook.
> Knowing of when and where we are going is primary in
> my mind.
That's one of the main purposes of this email forum, in addition to 
providing communication among all members.

Here's how it is currently set up:
1. autox.team.net - this email forum. Text-based, no photos.
2. NOBBC.com website - our web presence, maintained by Tcherek, to be 
transferred to Sheryl with another person as backup. This is where we 
put information, photos, and general information about the club. It is 
not interactive, but gives us a web presence on the internet.
3. Facebook - social networking site. Interactive, people can post 
photos and info. Currently unavailable to anyone new to join - about 23 
members now on it.

I have set up a Google Group, and started a Picasaweb account, but am 
not pleased with either.
> More as I figure this out.
Even if you can't find the password, you should be able to re-establish 
a password by calling customer service, since you pay the bills and it 
is presumably in your name.

Greg
>
> Deano

From gtwincams at gmail.com  Tue Oct 11 22:08:53 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:08:53 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] One more hurdle passed!
Message-ID: <4E9512D5.3050608@gmail.com>

Hi Folks,

Mark Bradakis came through and provided the password needed for me to 
maintain this mailing list - great news!

We have two remaining hurdles to leap - getting access to the web 
hosting service so we can get our website up to date (Dean is working on 
this), and getting control over the Facebook account. I haven't figured 
out how to do that yet, and Candy Englehardt hasn't been able to get 
access to it yet.

Cheers,

Greg

From hawkview at sonic.net  Tue Oct 11 23:30:38 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:30:38 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
In-Reply-To: <330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E090269618F@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>
References: <4e93bcc0.a3cfe70a.0ab0.ffffaf4a@mx.google.com><4E944D32.8090503@gmail.com>
	<330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E090269618F@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>
Message-ID: <8B9734A4248B4B4C88C2085C39B67DA5@williamsonPC>

I agree Greg.
Everybody appreciates your efforts.  Keep it up.
Clif & Deborah

-----Original Message----- 
From: Daniel Drummond
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:38 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net

Greg,

Rest assured your efforts are recognized and appreciated.  Don't be put off 
by a few ill-informed comments.  Keep your eye on the ball and ignore the 
detractors.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On 
Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:06 AM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net

Hi Dean,

Good points about Mark, thanks. You're right, this is supposed to be a fun 
club, which is why I sent an earlier email about how to use this forum in a 
responsible way. My comments on trying to communicate with Mark should not 
be lumped with the other comments about other topics by other members 
recently.

I am also unpaid for my volunteer efforts, yet have spent about 45 hours 
since Ron's passing (while also running my business), working on all of the 
administrative issues for the club, along with helping Ron's widow get his 
car running and sold and trying to help connect her with helpful resources. 
I've also held club parties and tech sessions at my house and elsewhere, and 
led numerous drives, all as a volunteer member of the club, which I think 
shows I have invested a lot in the NOBBC over the past 6-7 years.

The club now has about 140 members, with this being the main way to 
communicate among ourselves. I don't think Ron wanted the club to die with 
him, but access to most of our resources have suffered as a result.
We still have a web site we have little control over, an email forum with no 
moderator control, and a Facebook account with no moderator control. It's 
easier to just let things flow when there are 20-30 members but now that 
there is a web presence, social networking, and all of this with no way for 
me, also an unpaid volunteer, to handle the duties, you might be able to 
understand my frustration at Mark not responding to 7 or 8 very friendly, 
very polite emails.

I have also asked you previously for the information on the club web hosting 
service that you so generously pay for (and I regularly remind members about 
your ongoing contribution, Dean) since Tcherek is ready to pass on the web 
mistress job. Would it be possible to get that information from you so that 
we can make that transition? Tcherek has done a very kind service for free 
for our club over the years, but is ready to hand it over. Better yet, could 
you notify the web hosting service that the password has been lost and 
establish a new one so we can edit the web site?

It would be great to keep our email forum with Mark, because it's 
text-based, simple, and free, and would make my life easier, if we can make 
it work. I'm just trying to help, Dean, and not slamming anyone. I asked you 
in the very beginning if you objected to my stepping in to take over these 
duties, and you didn't indicate you had a problem with it, but if you do, 
please let me know before I spend more of my time if you would prefer 
yourself or someone else do this work.

Greg



On 10/10/2011 8:49 PM, D Paige wrote:
> Keep in mind all of you that Mark has kept groups going on at least 20
> years that support British cars of many stripes and types and Marquea.
> He makes no $$$ on his efforts and at least from my point of view the
> lists he supports are a valuable source for all of our cars. If you
> haven't logged into the group for your Marque you are missing a great
> asset. I send some $$ every year and will continue to. Marc does have
> to make a living like all of us and he does the LBCs marques a great
> service. I think that Ron is turning in his grave over the carping over 
> the small stuff.
>
> The grousing over the past weeks on a couple of minor issues has
> disturbed me as a founding member of NOBBC with many of you being
> downright nasty the small stuff. That does not bode well. Get a grip
> folks this is supposed to be fun. Don't throw out the baby with the 
> bathwater. CHILL!!!
>
> Deano
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From wbain at sonic.net  Wed Oct 12 14:18:38 2011
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:18:38 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
In-Reply-To: <8B9734A4248B4B4C88C2085C39B67DA5@williamsonPC>
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	<330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E090269618F@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>
	<8B9734A4248B4B4C88C2085C39B67DA5@williamsonPC>
Message-ID: <F75E9044-7657-41BE-A759-3AC74953ECC3@sonic.net>

Greg is doing a great job. Keep on truckin'.

Wendell


On Oct 11, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:

> I agree Greg.
> Everybody appreciates your efforts.  Keep it up.
> Clif & Deborah
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Drummond
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:38 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
>
> Greg,
>
> Rest assured your efforts are recognized and appreciated.  Don't be  
> put off by a few ill-informed comments.  Keep your eye on the ball  
> and ignore the detractors.
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- 
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:06 AM
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
>
> Hi Dean,
>
> Good points about Mark, thanks. You're right, this is supposed to  
> be a fun club, which is why I sent an earlier email about how to  
> use this forum in a responsible way. My comments on trying to  
> communicate with Mark should not be lumped with the other comments  
> about other topics by other members recently.
>
> I am also unpaid for my volunteer efforts, yet have spent about 45  
> hours since Ron's passing (while also running my business), working  
> on all of the administrative issues for the club, along with  
> helping Ron's widow get his car running and sold and trying to help  
> connect her with helpful resources. I've also held club parties and  
> tech sessions at my house and elsewhere, and led numerous drives,  
> all as a volunteer member of the club, which I think shows I have  
> invested a lot in the NOBBC over the past 6-7 years.
>
> The club now has about 140 members, with this being the main way to  
> communicate among ourselves. I don't think Ron wanted the club to  
> die with him, but access to most of our resources have suffered as  
> a result.
> We still have a web site we have little control over, an email  
> forum with no moderator control, and a Facebook account with no  
> moderator control. It's easier to just let things flow when there  
> are 20-30 members but now that there is a web presence, social  
> networking, and all of this with no way for me, also an unpaid  
> volunteer, to handle the duties, you might be able to understand my  
> frustration at Mark not responding to 7 or 8 very friendly, very  
> polite emails.
>
> I have also asked you previously for the information on the club  
> web hosting service that you so generously pay for (and I regularly  
> remind members about your ongoing contribution, Dean) since Tcherek  
> is ready to pass on the web mistress job. Would it be possible to  
> get that information from you so that we can make that transition?  
> Tcherek has done a very kind service for free for our club over the  
> years, but is ready to hand it over. Better yet, could you notify  
> the web hosting service that the password has been lost and  
> establish a new one so we can edit the web site?
>
> It would be great to keep our email forum with Mark, because it's  
> text-based, simple, and free, and would make my life easier, if we  
> can make it work. I'm just trying to help, Dean, and not slamming  
> anyone. I asked you in the very beginning if you objected to my  
> stepping in to take over these duties, and you didn't indicate you  
> had a problem with it, but if you do, please let me know before I  
> spend more of my time if you would prefer yourself or someone else  
> do this work.
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> On 10/10/2011 8:49 PM, D Paige wrote:
>> Keep in mind all of you that Mark has kept groups going on at  
>> least 20
>> years that support British cars of many stripes and types and  
>> Marquea.
>> He makes no $$$ on his efforts and at least from my point of view the
>> lists he supports are a valuable source for all of our cars. If you
>> haven't logged into the group for your Marque you are missing a great
>> asset. I send some $$ every year and will continue to. Marc does have
>> to make a living like all of us and he does the LBCs marques a great
>> service. I think that Ron is turning in his grave over the carping  
>> over the small stuff.
>>
>> The grousing over the past weeks on a couple of minor issues has
>> disturbed me as a founding member of NOBBC with many of you being
>> downright nasty the small stuff. That does not bode well. Get a grip
>> folks this is supposed to be fun. Don't throw out the baby with  
>> the bathwater. CHILL!!!
>>
>> Deano
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From bluesson at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 12 15:07:30 2011
From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:07:30 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Are we talking a yahoogroup here??
In-Reply-To: <8B9734A4248B4B4C88C2085C39B67DA5@williamsonPC>
References: <4e93bcc0.a3cfe70a.0ab0.ffffaf4a@mx.google.com><4E944D32.8090503@gmail.com>,
	<330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E090269618F@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>,
	<8B9734A4248B4B4C88C2085C39B67DA5@williamsonPC>
Message-ID: <BLU164-W490F7F7B89C6F04724A898D0E30@phx.gbl>

 IF you folks are talking about moving this group to yahoogroups.com, I can do
the actual move in about ten minutes. I've run the Grinnall Scorpion worldwide
group(s) from there as the moderator for a decade now.
   Whoever is going to be the owner/moderator needs to know just a few ground
rules and the group will not run itself, but it won't take much time at all if
set up properly. Contact me OUTSIDE the group if you want my input. Or I'll
just put the thing up and announce/put up the simple email path to joining the
new group.
   The biggest thing with a yahoogroup is ...KNOW who you are letting in. IF
you don't know the name, put them on moderated status until you do. There's a
couple of other tricks that must be known to prevent the group from falling
into Hell/purgatory with yahoo, because once there, it's TOUGH to come back.
                               Tom R (Grinnall Scorpion guy)

> From: hawkview at sonic.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:30:38 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
>
> I agree Greg.
> Everybody appreciates your efforts.  Keep it up.
> Clif & Deborah
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Drummond
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:38 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
>
> Greg,
>
> Rest assured your efforts are recognized and appreciated.  Don't be put off
> by a few ill-informed comments.  Keep your eye on the ball and ignore the
> detractors.
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:06 AM
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
>
> Hi Dean,
>
> Good points about Mark, thanks. You're right, this is supposed to be a fun
> club, which is why I sent an earlier email about how to use this forum in a
> responsible way. My comments on trying to communicate with Mark should not
> be lumped with the other comments about other topics by other members
> recently.
>
> I am also unpaid for my volunteer efforts, yet have spent about 45 hours
> since Ron's passing (while also running my business), working on all of the
> administrative issues for the club, along with helping Ron's widow get his
> car running and sold and trying to help connect her with helpful resources.
> I've also held club parties and tech sessions at my house and elsewhere, and
> led numerous drives, all as a volunteer member of the club, which I think
> shows I have invested a lot in the NOBBC over the past 6-7 years.
>
> The club now has about 140 members, with this being the main way to
> communicate among ourselves. I don't think Ron wanted the club to die with
> him, but access to most of our resources have suffered as a result.
> We still have a web site we have little control over, an email forum with no
> moderator control, and a Facebook account with no moderator control. It's
> easier to just let things flow when there are 20-30 members but now that
> there is a web presence, social networking, and all of this with no way for
> me, also an unpaid volunteer, to handle the duties, you might be able to
> understand my frustration at Mark not responding to 7 or 8 very friendly,
> very polite emails.
>
> I have also asked you previously for the information on the club web hosting
> service that you so generously pay for (and I regularly remind members about
> your ongoing contribution, Dean) since Tcherek is ready to pass on the web
> mistress job. Would it be possible to get that information from you so that
> we can make that transition? Tcherek has done a very kind service for free
> for our club over the years, but is ready to hand it over. Better yet, could
> you notify the web hosting service that the password has been lost and
> establish a new one so we can edit the web site?
>
> It would be great to keep our email forum with Mark, because it's
> text-based, simple, and free, and would make my life easier, if we can make
> it work. I'm just trying to help, Dean, and not slamming anyone. I asked you
> in the very beginning if you objected to my stepping in to take over these
> duties, and you didn't indicate you had a problem with it, but if you do,
> please let me know before I spend more of my time if you would prefer
> yourself or someone else do this work.
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> On 10/10/2011 8:49 PM, D Paige wrote:
> > Keep in mind all of you that Mark has kept groups going on at least 20
> > years that support British cars of many stripes and types and Marquea.
> > He makes no $$$ on his efforts and at least from my point of view the
> > lists he supports are a valuable source for all of our cars. If you
> > haven't logged into the group for your Marque you are missing a great
> > asset. I send some $$ every year and will continue to. Marc does have
> > to make a living like all of us and he does the LBCs marques a great
> > service. I think that Ron is turning in his grave over the carping over
> > the small stuff.
> >
> > The grousing over the past weeks on a couple of minor issues has
> > disturbed me as a founding member of NOBBC with many of you being
> > downright nasty the small stuff. That does not bode well. Get a grip
> > folks this is supposed to be fun. Don't throw out the baby with the
> > bathwater. CHILL!!!
> >
> > Deano
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Wed Oct 12 16:22:37 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:22:37 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Thanks, Donations, Pizza
In-Reply-To: <F75E9044-7657-41BE-A759-3AC74953ECC3@sonic.net>
References: <4e93bcc0.a3cfe70a.0ab0.ffffaf4a@mx.google.com><4E944D32.8090503@gmail.com>
	<330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E090269618F@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>
	<8B9734A4248B4B4C88C2085C39B67DA5@williamsonPC>
	<F75E9044-7657-41BE-A759-3AC74953ECC3@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <4E96132D.8090304@gmail.com>

  On 10/12/2011 1:18 PM, wendell bain wrote:
> Greg is doing a great job. Keep on truckin'.
>
> Wendell
>
Thank you Wendell, Dan, Clif, Mike and Sheryl for your encouragement.

I am sending a donation to Mark Bradakis tomorrow, and I know John gave 
a generous donation.

Our next scheduled drive, which is Saturday, Oct. 22. How about we use 
Candy's kind gift to those of us who helped with Ron's car on that day 
to sit down for lunch at Mary's Pizza Shack? We could design a drive 
that ends at one of their restaurants, in, say Windsor, Boyes Hot 
Springs, or Novato? The gift certificate is for $150, which should cover 
costs for a typical turnout. They have non-pizza items as well, for 
those who want something else. Sheryl and Dennis - you can get some of 
your money back this way... ;-)

Sound OK?

Greg Tatarian

From gtwincams at gmail.com  Wed Oct 12 17:52:25 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (gtwincams at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:52:25 +0000
Subject: [NOBBC] Are we talking a yahoogroup here??
In-Reply-To: <BLU164-W490F7F7B89C6F04724A898D0E30@phx.gbl>
References: <4e93bcc0.a3cfe70a.0ab0.ffffaf4a@mx.google.com>
	<4E944D32.8090503@gmail.com> ,
	<330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E090269618F@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>
	,	<8B9734A4248B4B4C88C2085C39B67DA5@williamsonPC>
	<BLU164-W490F7F7B89C6F04724A898D0E30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <mailman.17.1318463570.19530.nobbc@autox.team.net>

Tom,
Please do not start the group on your own, but I am very interested in discussing it with you off-list.
I'll be in touch. 
Thank you,
Greg
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Reier <bluesson at hotmail.com>
Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:07:30 
To: <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: [NOBBC] Are we talking a yahoogroup here??

 IF you folks are talking about moving this group to yahoogroups.com, I can do
the actual move in about ten minutes. I've run the Grinnall Scorpion worldwide
group(s) from there as the moderator for a decade now.
   Whoever is going to be the owner/moderator needs to know just a few ground
rules and the group will not run itself, but it won't take much time at all if
set up properly. Contact me OUTSIDE the group if you want my input. Or I'll
just put the thing up and announce/put up the simple email path to joining the
new group.
   The biggest thing with a yahoogroup is ...KNOW who you are letting in. IF
you don't know the name, put them on moderated status until you do. There's a
couple of other tricks that must be known to prevent the group from falling
into Hell/purgatory with yahoo, because once there, it's TOUGH to come back.
                               Tom R (Grinnall Scorpion guy)

> From: hawkview at sonic.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:30:38 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
>
> I agree Greg.
> Everybody appreciates your efforts.  Keep it up.
> Clif & Deborah
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Drummond
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:38 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
>
> Greg,
>
> Rest assured your efforts are recognized and appreciated.  Don't be put off
> by a few ill-informed comments.  Keep your eye on the ball and ignore the
> detractors.
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:06 AM
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net
>
> Hi Dean,
>
> Good points about Mark, thanks. You're right, this is supposed to be a fun
> club, which is why I sent an earlier email about how to use this forum in a
> responsible way. My comments on trying to communicate with Mark should not
> be lumped with the other comments about other topics by other members
> recently.
>
> I am also unpaid for my volunteer efforts, yet have spent about 45 hours
> since Ron's passing (while also running my business), working on all of the
> administrative issues for the club, along with helping Ron's widow get his
> car running and sold and trying to help connect her with helpful resources.
> I've also held club parties and tech sessions at my house and elsewhere, and
> led numerous drives, all as a volunteer member of the club, which I think
> shows I have invested a lot in the NOBBC over the past 6-7 years.
>
> The club now has about 140 members, with this being the main way to
> communicate among ourselves. I don't think Ron wanted the club to die with
> him, but access to most of our resources have suffered as a result.
> We still have a web site we have little control over, an email forum with no
> moderator control, and a Facebook account with no moderator control. It's
> easier to just let things flow when there are 20-30 members but now that
> there is a web presence, social networking, and all of this with no way for
> me, also an unpaid volunteer, to handle the duties, you might be able to
> understand my frustration at Mark not responding to 7 or 8 very friendly,
> very polite emails.
>
> I have also asked you previously for the information on the club web hosting
> service that you so generously pay for (and I regularly remind members about
> your ongoing contribution, Dean) since Tcherek is ready to pass on the web
> mistress job. Would it be possible to get that information from you so that
> we can make that transition? Tcherek has done a very kind service for free
> for our club over the years, but is ready to hand it over. Better yet, could
> you notify the web hosting service that the password has been lost and
> establish a new one so we can edit the web site?
>
> It would be great to keep our email forum with Mark, because it's
> text-based, simple, and free, and would make my life easier, if we can make
> it work. I'm just trying to help, Dean, and not slamming anyone. I asked you
> in the very beginning if you objected to my stepping in to take over these
> duties, and you didn't indicate you had a problem with it, but if you do,
> please let me know before I spend more of my time if you would prefer
> yourself or someone else do this work.
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> On 10/10/2011 8:49 PM, D Paige wrote:
> > Keep in mind all of you that Mark has kept groups going on at least 20
> > years that support British cars of many stripes and types and Marquea.
> > He makes no $$$ on his efforts and at least from my point of view the
> > lists he supports are a valuable source for all of our cars. If you
> > haven't logged into the group for your Marque you are missing a great
> > asset. I send some $$ every year and will continue to. Marc does have
> > to make a living like all of us and he does the LBCs marques a great
> > service. I think that Ron is turning in his grave over the carping over
> > the small stuff.
> >
> > The grousing over the past weeks on a couple of minor issues has
> > disturbed me as a founding member of NOBBC with many of you being
> > downright nasty the small stuff. That does not bode well. Get a grip
> > folks this is supposed to be fun. Don't throw out the baby with the
> > bathwater. CHILL!!!
> >
> > Deano
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From bluesson at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 12 18:40:45 2011
From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:40:45 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] New NOBBC Online Site
Message-ID: <BLU164-W396F76F6F63C4AD2EFED3CD0E00@phx.gbl>

Will whoever is currently moderating/running the online activity contact me
outside the group please?  Thanks, Tom R
  (bluesson at hotmail.com)

From gtwincams at gmail.com  Wed Oct 12 20:53:28 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 19:53:28 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] New NOBBC Online Site
In-Reply-To: <BLU164-W396F76F6F63C4AD2EFED3CD0E00@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU164-W396F76F6F63C4AD2EFED3CD0E00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4E9652A8.8090407@gmail.com>

Yes, I already answered you, Tom. My name is Greg Tatarian, and I am 
handling these tasks. I intended to email you tomorrow, but you seem 
anxious.
Please don't start a group for the NOBBC on your own. I'll email you 
directly.
Greg


On 10/12/2011 5:40 PM, Tom Reier wrote:
> Will whoever is currently moderating/running the online activity contact me
> outside the group please?  Thanks, Tom R
>    (bluesson at hotmail.com)
> _______________________________________________
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Thu Oct 13 20:32:32 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:32:32 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Fwd: [TR] Team.Net service
In-Reply-To: <20111014005544.771B52E0AD@bradakis.com>
References: <20111014005544.771B52E0AD@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <4E979F40.3050507@gmail.com>

Hello NOBBC members,
This is just in from Mark Bradakis:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[TR] Team.Net service
Date: 	Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:55:44 -0600 (MDT)
From: 	Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com>
To: 	triumphs at autox.team.net



First off let me thank those of you who took advantage of the link
at http://www.team.net/donate.html to contribute to the cause.  I'll
be working on individual thank you notes later.

Now that I have your money, Team.Net is going away, I'm shutting it
off tomorrow morning.

Okay, relax, it is only temporary.  The local power company will be
doing some maintenence and repairs in the area friday, October 14th.
Rather than risk frying some crucial piece of hardware due to random
power flucuations I'll be shutting down the servers in the morning
before I go to work.  I'll be bringing them back up friday evening
when the power line work is done.

So the email lists, amazingly outdated web pages, forum and such
will be down for most of the day.  All services should be back on
the air late friday, so be patient.

Too bad I'm not ready to cut over to the new server, this would be
a good time to do so.  Oh well, so it goes.

Thank you for your patience.

mjb.


triumphs at autox.team.net

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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Sun Oct 16 09:13:54 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 08:13:54 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Morgan Hill Fall Classic
Message-ID: <4E9AF4B2.3020509@gmail.com>

 From Rick:
> I'm just on my way out the door for the Autumn Classic.
>
> http://www.autumnclassic.100mregistry.com/

From dodea495 at hotmail.com  Sun Oct 16 23:07:06 2011
From: dodea495 at hotmail.com (Dennis O'Dea)
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:07:06 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Thanks, Donations, Pizza
In-Reply-To: <4E96132D.8090304@gmail.com>
References: <4e93bcc0.a3cfe70a.0ab0.ffffaf4a@mx.google.com><4E944D32.8090503@gmail.com>,
	<330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E090269618F@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>,
	<8B9734A4248B4B4C88C2085C39B67DA5@williamsonPC>,
	<F75E9044-7657-41BE-A759-3AC74953ECC3@sonic.net>,
	<4E96132D.8090304@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT137-W118D569F0475BF9CC615C09CE40@phx.gbl>

We have a drive suggestion that would end at a Mary's Pizza Shack in
Cloverdale.  This is a drive that Ron started to take us on about 2 years ago,
but did not finish due to weather.  I think at the time it was Norman with the
53 Jag that wanted a road not much traveled, and Ron came up with this route.
Sheryl and I completed the route this weekend from Bad Ass Coffee to Mary's
Pizza Shack in Cloverdale in about 1.5 hours in our yellow MGB.  Most of this
drive would consist of Geyser Rd.  A very interesting road, not traveled
much.

There are a few gravel spots about 30 yards long, and some areas that might be
ground clearance issues for some cars.  The last 12 miles is a somewhat paved
carriage road (single lane), but we do get to drive across a bridge made in
1909.

Given the driving time and our meet time I would be more then happy to lead
the drive.  With any luck we should be at Mary's Pizza Shack around 12pm for
lunch.

Dennis & Sheryl



> Our next scheduled drive, which is Saturday, Oct. 22. How about we use
> Candy's kind gift to those of us who helped with Ron's car on that day
> to sit down for lunch at Mary's Pizza Shack? We could design a drive
> that ends at one of their restaurants, in, say Windsor, Boyes Hot
> Springs, or Novato? The gift certificate is for $150, which should cover
> costs for a typical turnout. They have non-pizza items as well, for
> those who want something else. Sheryl and Dennis - you can get some of
> your money back this way... ;-)
>
> Sound OK?
>
> Greg Tatarian
> _______________________________________________
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From techyes at pacbell.net  Sun Oct 16 23:30:04 2011
From: techyes at pacbell.net (Sheryl)
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:30:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NOBBC] October 22, Drive idea
In-Reply-To: <4E96132D.8090304@gmail.com>
References: <4e93bcc0.a3cfe70a.0ab0.ffffaf4a@mx.google.com><4E944D32.8090503@gmail.com>
	<330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E090269618F@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>
	<8B9734A4248B4B4C88C2085C39B67DA5@williamsonPC>
	<F75E9044-7657-41BE-A759-3AC74953ECC3@sonic.net>
	<4E96132D.8090304@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1318829404.59262.YahooMailRC@web83601.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

We have a drive suggestion that would end at a Mary's Pizza Shack in  
Cloverdale.  This is a drive that Ron started to take us on about 2  years ago, 
but did not finish due to weather.  I think at the time it  was Norman with the 
53 Jag that wanted a road not much traveled, and Ron  came up with this route.  
Sheryl and I completed the route this weekend  from Bad Ass Coffee to Mary's 
Pizza Shack in Cloverdale in about 1.5  hours in our yellow MGB.  Most of this 
drive would consist of Geyser  Rd.  A very interesting road, not traveled much.

There are a few  gravel spots about 30 yards long, and some areas that might be 
ground  clearance issues for some cars.  The last 12 miles is a somewhat paved  
carriage road (single lane), but we do get to drive across a bridge made  in 
1909.  


Given the driving time and our meet time I would be  more then happy to lead the 
drive.  With any luck we should be at Mary's  Pizza Shack around 12pm for lunch.

Dennis & Sheryl


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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Mon Oct 17 07:17:36 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 06:17:36 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Thanks, Donations, Pizza
In-Reply-To: <SNT137-W118D569F0475BF9CC615C09CE40@phx.gbl>
References: <4e93bcc0.a3cfe70a.0ab0.ffffaf4a@mx.google.com><4E944D32.8090503@gmail.com>,
	<330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E090269618F@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>, 
	<8B9734A4248B4B4C88C2085C39B67DA5@williamsonPC>,
	<F75E9044-7657-41BE-A759-3AC74953ECC3@sonic.net>,
	<4E96132D.8090304@gmail.com>
	<SNT137-W118D569F0475BF9CC615C09CE40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4E9C2AF0.2070008@gmail.com>

Hi Dennis and Sheryl,

Sounds very intriguing. It doesn't sound like Elan (one is down for 
repair) or TR6 would be a great choice due to ground clearance concerns 
you mention. Is there an alternate loop for those of us with low or 
stiff suspension cars or concerns about body/paint?

Greg Tatarian



On 10/16/2011 10:07 PM, Dennis O'Dea wrote:
> We have a drive suggestion that would end at a Mary's Pizza Shack in
> Cloverdale.  This is a drive that Ron started to take us on about 2 years ago,
> but did not finish due to weather.  I think at the time it was Norman with the
> 53 Jag that wanted a road not much traveled, and Ron came up with this route.
> Sheryl and I completed the route this weekend from Bad Ass Coffee to Mary's
> Pizza Shack in Cloverdale in about 1.5 hours in our yellow MGB.  Most of this
> drive would consist of Geyser Rd.  A very interesting road, not traveled
> much.
>
> There are a few gravel spots about 30 yards long, and some areas that might be
> ground clearance issues for some cars.  The last 12 miles is a somewhat paved
> carriage road (single lane), but we do get to drive across a bridge made in
> 1909.
>
> Given the driving time and our meet time I would be more then happy to lead
> the drive.  With any luck we should be at Mary's Pizza Shack around 12pm for
> lunch.
>
> Dennis&  Sheryl
>
>
>
>> Our next scheduled drive, which is Saturday, Oct. 22. How about we use
>> Candy's kind gift to those of us who helped with Ron's car on that day
>> to sit down for lunch at Mary's Pizza Shack? We could design a drive
>> that ends at one of their restaurants, in, say Windsor, Boyes Hot
>> Springs, or Novato? The gift certificate is for $150, which should cover
>> costs for a typical turnout. They have non-pizza items as well, for
>> those who want something else. Sheryl and Dennis - you can get some of
>> your money back this way... ;-)
>>
>> Sound OK?
>>
>> Greg Tatarian

From dan at drummondlaw.com  Mon Oct 17 07:49:18 2011
From: dan at drummondlaw.com (Daniel Drummond)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 06:49:18 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Thanks, Donations, Pizza
In-Reply-To: <SNT137-W118D569F0475BF9CC615C09CE40@phx.gbl>
References: <4e93bcc0.a3cfe70a.0ab0.ffffaf4a@mx.google.com><4E944D32.8090503@gmail.com>,
	<330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E090269618F@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>, 
	<8B9734A4248B4B4C88C2085C39B67DA5@williamsonPC>,
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Sounds great, but unfortunately I'll be out of town and unable to make it.  Guess I didn't really need that pizza anyway.  Have fun.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dennis O'Dea
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 10:07 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Thanks, Donations, Pizza

We have a drive suggestion that would end at a Mary's Pizza Shack in Cloverdale.  This is a drive that Ron started to take us on about 2 years ago, but did not finish due to weather.  I think at the time it was Norman with the
53 Jag that wanted a road not much traveled, and Ron came up with this route.
Sheryl and I completed the route this weekend from Bad Ass Coffee to Mary's Pizza Shack in Cloverdale in about 1.5 hours in our yellow MGB.  Most of this drive would consist of Geyser Rd.  A very interesting road, not traveled much.

There are a few gravel spots about 30 yards long, and some areas that might be ground clearance issues for some cars.  The last 12 miles is a somewhat paved carriage road (single lane), but we do get to drive across a bridge made in 1909.

Given the driving time and our meet time I would be more then happy to lead the drive.  With any luck we should be at Mary's Pizza Shack around 12pm for lunch.

Dennis & Sheryl



> Our next scheduled drive, which is Saturday, Oct. 22. How about we use 
> Candy's kind gift to those of us who helped with Ron's car on that day 
> to sit down for lunch at Mary's Pizza Shack? We could design a drive 
> that ends at one of their restaurants, in, say Windsor, Boyes Hot 
> Springs, or Novato? The gift certificate is for $150, which should 
> cover costs for a typical turnout. They have non-pizza items as well, 
> for those who want something else. Sheryl and Dennis - you can get 
> some of your money back this way... ;-)
>
> Sound OK?
>
> Greg Tatarian
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From wbain at sonic.net  Mon Oct 17 16:11:46 2011
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:11:46 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Thanks, Donations, Pizza
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Sounds like the ground clearance might be a problem for the
Morgan. Hope you all have a great time.

Cheers,

Wendell

On Oct 16, 2011, at 10:07 PM, Dennis O'Dea wrote:

> We have a drive suggestion that would end at a Mary's Pizza Shack in
> Cloverdale.  This is a drive that Ron started to take us on about 2  
> years ago,
> but did not finish due to weather.  I think at the time it was  
> Norman with the
> 53 Jag that wanted a road not much traveled, and Ron came up with  
> this route.
> Sheryl and I completed the route this weekend from Bad Ass Coffee  
> to Mary's
> Pizza Shack in Cloverdale in about 1.5 hours in our yellow MGB.   
> Most of this
> drive would consist of Geyser Rd.  A very interesting road, not  
> traveled
> much.
>
> There are a few gravel spots about 30 yards long, and some areas  
> that might be
> ground clearance issues for some cars.  The last 12 miles is a  
> somewhat paved
> carriage road (single lane), but we do get to drive across a bridge  
> made in
> 1909.
>
> Given the driving time and our meet time I would be more then happy  
> to lead
> the drive.  With any luck we should be at Mary's Pizza Shack around  
> 12pm for
> lunch.
>
> Dennis & Sheryl
>
>
>
>> Our next scheduled drive, which is Saturday, Oct. 22. How about we  
>> use
>> Candy's kind gift to those of us who helped with Ron's car on that  
>> day
>> to sit down for lunch at Mary's Pizza Shack? We could design a drive
>> that ends at one of their restaurants, in, say Windsor, Boyes Hot
>> Springs, or Novato? The gift certificate is for $150, which should  
>> cover
>> costs for a typical turnout. They have non-pizza items as well, for
>> those who want something else. Sheryl and Dennis - you can get  
>> some of
>> your money back this way... ;-)
>>
>> Sound OK?
>>
>> Greg Tatarian
>> _______________________________________________
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From rolquinmac at me.com  Mon Oct 17 17:27:01 2011
From: rolquinmac at me.com (Roland Quintero)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:27:01 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Fwd: [TR] Team.Net service
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> 
> 
> 
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Mon Oct 17 17:43:33 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:43:33 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Thanks, Donations, Pizza
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I seem to recall driving this road (and the dirt sections) with the club 
many years ago, and the Google Earth view of the road is awesome, but if 
this route is going to exclude several of our cars, let's pick another 
date we can meet up at Mary's Pizza Shack. Or, how about a secondary 
route for those of us who have low cars or don't want rock dings?

Greg Tatarian


On 10/17/2011 3:11 PM, wendell bain wrote:
> Sounds like the ground clearance might be a problem for the
> Morgan. Hope you all have a great time.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wendell

From don at napanet.net  Mon Oct 17 18:38:27 2011
From: don at napanet.net (Don)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:38:27 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Morgan Hill car show
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>https://picasaweb.google.com/104973305347633073496/October162011?authkey=Gv1sRgCJzp2qnx5IGe9QE
>
>Big car adventure for me on Sunday!  Thanks to email and the MG 
>Experience website, I was able to connect with fellow MG enthusiast 
>Jim Legg of Napa and catch a ride to the Autumn Classic Car Show in 
>his 1970 MGB GT.  We left Napa at 8 a.m., and arrived in Morgan Hill 
>at 10 a.m. for the car show.
>
>The weather was ideal without the rain that ruined the show last 
>year, resulting in an exceptional array of British sports cars for 
>the day's event.  I don't think I have ever seen so many high-end 
>restorations of old British sports cars assembled in one place, 
>ever.  But there were many less expensive, driver quality cars there 
>too.  The cars were displayed along Monterey Avenue which had been 
>closed for the event.
>
>First thing that caught my attention when we began looking at the 
>many cars assembled in the historic downtown was the red '64 MGB 
>body displayed by Bill Hiland of On the Road Again Classics.  His 
>restoration shop is located in Morgan Hill.  The workmanship on the 
>MGB body appeared impeccable in its new tartan red paint, and being 
>a body sans anything else, it was a stark contrast to all the cars 
>that were complete and running.  I asked Bill what it would cost to 
>get an early MGB done properly, and he said about $35,000.  As 
>expensive as this sounds, I can understand with all the detail and 
>handwork involved.  In fact, that sounds like a bargain!
>
>Next car that seemed to stand out from the rest was a white and 
>black 1956 Austin Healey 100M.  My comment to Jim was that the 
>letter M on the Healey probably doubles its value.  The car's owner, 
>John Batterton, laughed and stated that was indeed the case.  He 
>said that his car had been battered and been through some strange 
>ownership history before he adopted it, and with painstaking work he 
>had made it into an absolute beauty.  He told us that there are only 
>200 100Ms left of the 640 that were made.  He estimated that his car 
>was worth $140,000.  I could see no defects in it  John posed next 
>to the car for a photo.
>
>The black XK150 S Jaguar was concourse quality, but the owner was 
>nowhere to be seen.  I don't know Jags that well, but I think this 
>is another example of an added letter to the name that doubles the 
>value of the car.
>
>I counted five Sunbeam Tigers, and one Alpine.  One of the Tigers, a 
>blue '65, was spectacular, and I made an offer on the spot  . . . to 
>photograph it.  Robert Petrokas, the proud owner, was kind enough to 
>pose next to it for a photo.  I love these cars, and this one was 
>unusually well restored..  He said it has been a concours winner, 
>and it looks it.
>
>A car that was ususual for its originality and unashamedly showing 
>its years, was an early MGA.  A 1956 red roadster, it still had its 
>original leather seats.  The tires were Firestone whitewalls that 
>looked like they could have been with the car since 1956.  The owner 
>said that the car had been stored in a garage for many years, and 
>that he had brought it back to life.  This car was really a time 
>capsule and was unusual among the other cars that have had so much 
>restoration work done on them.  His daughter drives the car, and she 
>seemed to love the car.  Rarely do you see this hobby being passed 
>down to a daughter, and not all that often to a son.
>
>I counted seven MGTFs.  All of them were immaculate and each car 
>would win an award if I was giving prizes.  I am partial to TFs, as 
>I own one.  So few were made it is hard to believe that so many 
>survive in this region.  Not many MGAs were there, but the number of 
>MGBs was high.  But I spotted only one early MGB, an iris blue 
>roadster.  Survival rate of the Mk 1 MGBs must be low in North 
>America as I see so few at any car shows given that they were once 
>abundant here.
> 
>
>A car that I have seen and appreciated at more than one show was the 
>1975 Midget owned by Craig Kuenzinger.  Craig said that it is a 98 
>point restoration; his assertion was supported by the beauty of his 
>car which looked like it just drove out of a dealer showroom back in 
>1975.  He explained that he had done a lot of painstaking work to 
>make it this way as there are many parts that are no longer 
>available since these cars don't have the following of many of the 
>other British sports cars.  I jokingly commented that the radio in 
>the Midget was a Sony, and that if I was a judging the car, I would 
>subtract another point for this glaring defect.  Craig explained 
>that a Leyland radio was nearly impossible to find.  Jim Legg came 
>to his rescue and told Craig that he had one of the radios at home 
>in his parts cache.  Craig was elated to find such a part for his 
>car.  Oddly enough, it was in the course of buying a BMC type radio 
>for an early MGB that I met Jim several years ago.
>
>I caught a photo of a BRG 1967 Austin Healey 3000 as it was leaving 
>the show.  The couple in the car were both smiling and Roger Hawk 
>said that his wife, Donna, had bought the car new in 1967.
>
>At most of the British car shows there are several TR8s and rarely 
>any TR7s.  This time was the opposite, as there was only one TR8, 
>and two TR7s.  The wedge-shaped cars look identical, but the source 
>of power is not the same.  The TR8, sadly, was British Leyland's 
>swan song.  I am partial to these little hot rod V8s, having owned a 
>couple "poor man's Tigers" in my past.
>
>I got some photos that were not of cars.  One is of a lady wearing a 
>very unusual outfit leading her little dog who is also in strange 
>attire.  The two security police were kind enough to smile for a 
>photo.  The fellow walking what looked to be a rather exotic bicycle 
>told me that it was a $7,000 bike.  Dave Laughlin and his British 
>car parts business made an interesting photo.  By chance, Jim and I 
>met up with Rick Anderson of Napa who owns a couple of MGs, but was 
>there in a Honda.  He and his friend Mignon joined us for 
>lunch.  The marquee at the theater proclaimed "Support Our Seniors" 
>which I thought was appropriate given the age of most of us at this event.
>
>There were a few other cars that I liked, and photographed.  One was 
>the '70 Triumph GT6 of John Leggett, which looked like it was a 
>brand new car.  And the Mini Cooper S of Chris Miller who claimed 
>that its engine was producing 120 horsepower.  Two of the Bugeye 
>Sprites were powered by Japanese DOHC engines; they must be like 
>little rockets given the light weight of a Bugeye.  The red '72 RHD 
>Ginetta was a beauty, and had been updated with a newer Ford OHC 
>engine.  Jim thought the Arnolt MG was the rarest car there.  I 
>thought the two Nash Healeys were the rarest.
>
>Later in the day on my way home, I stopped at Peets Coffee in 
>Napa.  Parked in front of the store was a red Aston Martin 
>convertible of the late 1950s that was drop dead gorgeous.  Everyone 
>that walked by that car stopped and admired it.  I was able to catch 
>a photo as it was leaving, and I told the two fellows in the car 
>that there had been a big British car show in Morgan Hill and had 
>they taken the car, it would surely have won a prize.  In the latest 
>copy of Sports Car Market magazine there is a short feature on these 
>cars.  These Aston Martins cost $3,650 new, but their value now is 
>between $275,000 and $450,000 according to the article.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From norman.weinfeld at gmail.com  Mon Oct 17 19:01:05 2011
From: norman.weinfeld at gmail.com (Norman S. Weinfeld)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:01:05 -0700
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I tried twice to reset the (old) mailing list to "digest" mode after noting
that the first time didn't take for some reason. Upon re-looking the second
time, I note that this option has been disabled by the moderator. I much
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drive notifications and such?

Norm Weinfeld
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On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Roland Quintero <rolquinmac at me.com> wrote:

> I received a notice to join Yahoo Groups for nobbc.   Should I join??? Are
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> On Oct 13, 2011, at 7:32 PM, Greg Tatarian wrote:
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> > Hello NOBBC members,
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> >
> >
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> > Okay, relax, it is only temporary.  The local power company will be
> > doing some maintenence and repairs in the area friday, October 14th.
> > Rather than risk frying some crucial piece of hardware due to random
> > power flucuations I'll be shutting down the servers in the morning
> > before I go to work.  I'll be bringing them back up friday evening
> > when the power line work is done.
> >
> > So the email lists, amazingly outdated web pages, forum and such
> > will be down for most of the day.  All services should be back on
> > the air late friday, so be patient.
> >
> > Too bad I'm not ready to cut over to the new server, this would be
> > a good time to do so.  Oh well, so it goes.
> >
> > Thank you for your patience.
> >
> > mjb.
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Mon Oct 17 19:13:55 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:13:55 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Fwd: [TR] Team.Net service
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On 10/17/2011 4:27 PM, Roland Quintero wrote:
> I received a notice to join Yahoo Groups for nobbc.   Should I join??? Are we switching to it???   Please advise.  Thanks  My other email address as listed is jaguarxke11 at me.com
>
>
Hi Roland,

I posted an email earlier on this list explaining that we will retain 
this list for notifications of drives and related club business. There 
are some members who want to receive minimal emails from the club. Also, 
this email forum doesn't permit attachments, photos, etc. So for those 
who want a more interactive experience with other members, the Yahoo 
Group was set up to provide that.

If you join, you'll be able to post and view pictures, messages, files, 
calendar events, etc. You can set your account to receive individual 
email, digests, or no email except important notices. This email forum 
will remain for those who don't want as much communication from the club 
or other members, or aren't able to join the group.

If you just want to see how it looks before joining, go to 
groups.yahoo.com/group/nobbc.

Cheers,

Greg Tatarian

From ctwehn at gmail.com  Mon Oct 17 20:07:42 2011
From: ctwehn at gmail.com (Charles Wehn)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:07:42 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] October 22, Drive idea
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Sounds like a good ride to me, damn the ground clearance, full speed ahead !
See you Saturday.

Charlie & Patty
TR6, 8

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Sheryl <techyes at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> We have a drive suggestion that would end at a Mary's Pizza Shack in
> Cloverdale.  This is a drive that Ron started to take us on about 2  years
ago,
> but did not finish due to weather.  I think at the time it  was Norman with
the
> 53 Jag that wanted a road not much traveled, and Ron  came up with this
route.
> Sheryl and I completed the route this weekend  from Bad Ass Coffee to
Mary's
> Pizza Shack in Cloverdale in about 1.5  hours in our yellow MGB.  Most of
this
> drive would consist of Geyser  Rd.  A very interesting road, not traveled
much.
>
> There are a few  gravel spots about 30 yards long, and some areas that might
be
> ground  clearance issues for some cars.  The last 12 miles is a somewhat
paved
> carriage road (single lane), but we do get to drive across a bridge made
 in
> 1909.
>
>
> Given the driving time and our meet time I would be  more then happy to lead
the
> drive.  With any luck we should be at Mary's  Pizza Shack around 12pm for
lunch.
>
> Dennis & Sheryl
>
>
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Mon Oct 17 20:38:26 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:38:26 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] YAHOO???
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You have been invited to join NOBBC group!
What's up with this?
Greg, is this you?
Clif

From drmartyrayman at gmail.com  Mon Oct 17 20:45:36 2011
From: drmartyrayman at gmail.com (Martin Sinai Rayman)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:45:36 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Morgan Hill car show
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Thanks. Most enjoyable,  Marty "53 TD

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Don <don at napanet.net> wrote:

> https://picasaweb.google.com/**104973305347633073496/**
>> October162011?authkey=**Gv1sRgCJzp2qnx5IGe9QE<https://picasaweb.google.com/104973305347633073496/October162011?authkey=Gv1sRgCJzp2qnx5IGe9QE>
>>
>> Big car adventure for me on Sunday!  Thanks to email and the MG Experience
>> website, I was able to connect with fellow MG enthusiast Jim Legg of Napa
>> and catch a ride to the Autumn Classic Car Show in his 1970 MGB GT.  We left
>> Napa at 8 a.m., and arrived in Morgan Hill at 10 a.m. for the car show.
>>
>> The weather was ideal without the rain that ruined the show last year,
>> resulting in an exceptional array of British sports cars for the day's
>> event.  I don't think I have ever seen so many high-end restorations of old
>> British sports cars assembled in one place, ever.  But there were many less
>> expensive, driver quality cars there too.  The cars were displayed along
>> Monterey Avenue which had been closed for the event.
>>
>> First thing that caught my attention when we began looking at the many
>> cars assembled in the historic downtown was the red '64 MGB body displayed
>> by Bill Hiland of On the Road Again Classics.  His restoration shop is
>> located in Morgan Hill.  The workmanship on the MGB body appeared impeccable
>> in its new tartan red paint, and being a body sans anything else, it was a
>> stark contrast to all the cars that were complete and running.  I asked Bill
>> what it would cost to get an early MGB done properly, and he said about
>> $35,000.  As expensive as this sounds, I can understand with all the detail
>> and handwork involved.  In fact, that sounds like a bargain!
>>
>> Next car that seemed to stand out from the rest was a white and black 1956
>> Austin Healey 100M.  My comment to Jim was that the letter M on the Healey
>> probably doubles its value.  The car's owner, John Batterton, laughed and
>> stated that was indeed the case.  He said that his car had been battered and
>> been through some strange ownership history before he adopted it, and with
>> painstaking work he had made it into an absolute beauty.  He told us that
>> there are only 200 100Ms left of the 640 that were made.  He estimated that
>> his car was worth $140,000.  I could see no defects in it  John posed next
>> to the car for a photo.
>>
>> The black XK150 S Jaguar was concourse quality, but the owner was nowhere
>> to be seen.  I don't know Jags that well, but I think this is another
>> example of an added letter to the name that doubles the value of the car.
>>
>> I counted five Sunbeam Tigers, and one Alpine.  One of the Tigers, a blue
>> '65, was spectacular, and I made an offer on the spot  . . . to photograph
>> it.  Robert Petrokas, the proud owner, was kind enough to pose next to it
>> for a photo.  I love these cars, and this one was unusually well restored..
>>  He said it has been a concours winner, and it looks it.
>>
>> A car that was ususual for its originality and unashamedly showing its
>> years, was an early MGA.  A 1956 red roadster, it still had its original
>> leather seats.  The tires were Firestone whitewalls that looked like they
>> could have been with the car since 1956.  The owner said that the car had
>> been stored in a garage for many years, and that he had brought it back to
>> life.  This car was really a time capsule and was unusual among the other
>> cars that have had so much restoration work done on them.  His daughter
>> drives the car, and she seemed to love the car.  Rarely do you see this
>> hobby being passed down to a daughter, and not all that often to a son.
>>
>> I counted seven MGTFs.  All of them were immaculate and each car would win
>> an award if I was giving prizes.  I am partial to TFs, as I own one.  So few
>> were made it is hard to believe that so many survive in this region.  Not
>> many MGAs were there, but the number of MGBs was high.  But I spotted only
>> one early MGB, an iris blue roadster.  Survival rate of the Mk 1 MGBs must
>> be low in North America as I see so few at any car shows given that they
>> were once abundant here.
>>
>>
>> A car that I have seen and appreciated at more than one show was the 1975
>> Midget owned by Craig Kuenzinger.  Craig said that it is a 98 point
>> restoration; his assertion was supported by the beauty of his car which
>> looked like it just drove out of a dealer showroom back in 1975.  He
>> explained that he had done a lot of painstaking work to make it this way as
>> there are many parts that are no longer available since these cars don't
>> have the following of many of the other British sports cars.  I jokingly
>> commented that the radio in the Midget was a Sony, and that if I was a
>> judging the car, I would subtract another point for this glaring defect.
>>  Craig explained that a Leyland radio was nearly impossible to find.  Jim
>> Legg came to his rescue and told Craig that he had one of the radios at home
>> in his parts cache.  Craig was elated to find such a part for his car.
>>  Oddly enough, it was in the course of buying a BMC type radio for an early
>> MGB that I met Jim several years ago.
>>
>> I caught a photo of a BRG 1967 Austin Healey 3000 as it was leaving the
>> show.  The couple in the car were both smiling and Roger Hawk said that his
>> wife, Donna, had bought the car new in 1967.
>>
>> At most of the British car shows there are several TR8s and rarely any
>> TR7s.  This time was the opposite, as there was only one TR8, and two TR7s.
>>  The wedge-shaped cars look identical, but the source of power is not the
>> same.  The TR8, sadly, was British Leyland's swan song.  I am partial to
>> these little hot rod V8s, having owned a couple "poor man's Tigers" in my
>> past.
>>
>> I got some photos that were not of cars.  One is of a lady wearing a very
>> unusual outfit leading her little dog who is also in strange attire.  The
>> two security police were kind enough to smile for a photo.  The fellow
>> walking what looked to be a rather exotic bicycle told me that it was a
>> $7,000 bike.  Dave Laughlin and his British car parts business made an
>> interesting photo.  By chance, Jim and I met up with Rick Anderson of Napa
>> who owns a couple of MGs, but was there in a Honda.  He and his friend
>> Mignon joined us for lunch.  The marquee at the theater proclaimed "Support
>> Our Seniors" which I thought was appropriate given the age of most of us at
>> this event.
>>
>> There were a few other cars that I liked, and photographed.  One was the
>> '70 Triumph GT6 of John Leggett, which looked like it was a brand new car.
>>  And the Mini Cooper S of Chris Miller who claimed that its engine was
>> producing 120 horsepower.  Two of the Bugeye Sprites were powered by
>> Japanese DOHC engines; they must be like little rockets given the light
>> weight of a Bugeye.  The red '72 RHD Ginetta was a beauty, and had been
>> updated with a newer Ford OHC engine.  Jim thought the Arnolt MG was the
>> rarest car there.  I thought the two Nash Healeys were the rarest.
>>
>> Later in the day on my way home, I stopped at Peets Coffee in Napa.
>>  Parked in front of the store was a red Aston Martin convertible of the late
>> 1950s that was drop dead gorgeous.  Everyone that walked by that car stopped
>> and admired it.  I was able to catch a photo as it was leaving, and I told
>> the two fellows in the car that there had been a big British car show in
>> Morgan Hill and had they taken the car, it would surely have won a prize.
>>  In the latest copy of Sports Car Market magazine there is a short feature
>> on these cars.  These Aston Martins cost $3,650 new, but their value now is
>> between $275,000 and $450,000 according to the article.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Mon Oct 17 20:48:32 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:48:32 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Thanks, Donations, Pizza
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Deb is in Canada, so I am going to take some time to do some work on the JH.
The back road to Cloverdale is pretty harsh, and gravel might be a problem. 
Might I suggest going up to the big look out near the top of the Geysers 
climb.  Should be some great views of the fall colors on the vineyards this 
time of year.  Maybe chat a bit and then back down and over to Dry Creek 
road, up to Dutcher (SP) and back over to Cloverdale.  Then meet up at 
Mary's.  Maybe?  Just a thought.
Have fun either way,
Clif  74 Jensen Healey

-----Original Message----- 
From: Greg Tatarian
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:17 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Thanks, Donations, Pizza

Hi Dennis and Sheryl,

Sounds very intriguing. It doesn't sound like Elan (one is down for
repair) or TR6 would be a great choice due to ground clearance concerns
you mention. Is there an alternate loop for those of us with low or
stiff suspension cars or concerns about body/paint?

Greg Tatarian



On 10/16/2011 10:07 PM, Dennis O'Dea wrote:
> We have a drive suggestion that would end at a Mary's Pizza Shack in
> Cloverdale.  This is a drive that Ron started to take us on about 2 years 
> ago,
> but did not finish due to weather.  I think at the time it was Norman with 
> the
> 53 Jag that wanted a road not much traveled, and Ron came up with this 
> route.
> Sheryl and I completed the route this weekend from Bad Ass Coffee to 
> Mary's
> Pizza Shack in Cloverdale in about 1.5 hours in our yellow MGB.  Most of 
> this
> drive would consist of Geyser Rd.  A very interesting road, not traveled
> much.
>
> There are a few gravel spots about 30 yards long, and some areas that 
> might be
> ground clearance issues for some cars.  The last 12 miles is a somewhat 
> paved
> carriage road (single lane), but we do get to drive across a bridge made 
> in
> 1909.
>
> Given the driving time and our meet time I would be more then happy to 
> lead
> the drive.  With any luck we should be at Mary's Pizza Shack around 12pm 
> for
> lunch.
>
> Dennis&  Sheryl
>
>
>
>> Our next scheduled drive, which is Saturday, Oct. 22. How about we use
>> Candy's kind gift to those of us who helped with Ron's car on that day
>> to sit down for lunch at Mary's Pizza Shack? We could design a drive
>> that ends at one of their restaurants, in, say Windsor, Boyes Hot
>> Springs, or Novato? The gift certificate is for $150, which should cover
>> costs for a typical turnout. They have non-pizza items as well, for
>> those who want something else. Sheryl and Dennis - you can get some of
>> your money back this way... ;-)
>>
>> Sound OK?
>>
>> Greg Tatarian
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From techyes at pacbell.net  Mon Oct 17 21:13:33 2011
From: techyes at pacbell.net (Sheryl)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:13:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NOBBC] Thanks Pizza, Drive on Saturday
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Hi All,

We were thinking about a longer drive because this is the last drive before the 
winter schedule. 

Kings Ridge was another idea for Saturday, but ends up nowhere near a Marys 
Pizza.
The fall colors are starting - heading towards Napa is always lovely, but next 
month might have more color in the grape vines.
Marys Pizza in Napa next month (November 19) if more people are available? 

Sheryl & Dennis




________________________________
From: Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, October 17, 2011 4:43:33 PM
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Thanks, Donations, Pizza

I seem to recall driving this road (and the dirt sections) with the club many 
years ago, and the Google Earth view of the road is awesome, but if this route 
is going to exclude several of our cars, let's pick another date we can meet up 
at Mary's Pizza Shack. Or, how about a secondary route for those of us who have 
low cars or don't want rock dings?

Greg Tatarian


On 10/17/2011 3:11 PM, wendell bain wrote:
> Sounds like the ground clearance might be a problem for the
> Morgan. Hope you all have a great time.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Wendell
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Mon Oct 17 21:26:39 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:26:39 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Fwd: [TR] Team.Net service
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Hi Norm,

Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I did not reset this option, but 
suspect it may have occurred during the day Mark's server was down. I 
have re-set that option so members of this list can receive email in 
digests.

Cheers,

Greg

On 10/17/2011 6:01 PM, Norman S. Weinfeld wrote:
> I tried twice to reset the (old) mailing list to "digest" mode after noting
> that the first time didn't take for some reason. Upon re-looking the second
> time, I note that this option has been disabled by the moderator. I much
> prefer this consolidation to the slew of individual e-mails one gets
> otherwise and would thus very much like to unsubscribe and cleave
> exclusively to the Yahoo group. Would this be feasible in terms of, e.g.,
> drive notifications and such?
>
> Norm Weinfeld
> San Francisco
> '55 XK140 DHC

From gtwincams at gmail.com  Mon Oct 17 22:36:02 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:36:02 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] YAHOO???
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On 10/17/2011 7:38 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
> You have been invited to join NOBBC group!
> What's up with this?
> Greg, is this you?
> Clif
Uh, yes, Clif. I've sent a few emails about this to the list.
I'll send them all to you personally so you get them.
Greg

From gtwincams at gmail.com  Mon Oct 17 22:58:08 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:58:08 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Thanks Pizza, Drive on Saturday
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	<A448536C-1B24-48E6-9A68-BCACEA55CB4E@sonic.net>
	<4E9CBDA5.1030201@gmail.com>
	<1318907613.13519.YahooMailRC@web83601.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4E9D0760.20001@gmail.com>

Sheryl and Dennis,

We might make the drive 1/2 way then turn around to save the car. Wish 
it was paved the whole way - you've got to see those curves on Google Earth!

Sounds like we're not going to have some of our regulars, so maybe we 
should meet for lunch another time, perhaps November 19 as you suggest.

Greg Tatarian

On 10/17/2011 8:13 PM, Sheryl wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> We were thinking about a longer drive because this is the last drive before the
> winter schedule.
>
> Kings Ridge was another idea for Saturday, but ends up nowhere near a Marys
> Pizza.
> The fall colors are starting - heading towards Napa is always lovely, but next
> month might have more color in the grape vines.
> Marys Pizza in Napa next month (November 19) if more people are available?
>
> Sheryl&  Dennis

From zied at redwoodempiremini.com  Tue Oct 18 00:48:51 2011
From: zied at redwoodempiremini.com (Peter Ziedrich)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 23:48:51 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Morgan Hill car show
In-Reply-To: <20111018003834.2913EAE6CB@mail.dsl.napanet.net>
References: <20111018003834.2913EAE6CB@mail.dsl.napanet.net>
Message-ID: <000901cc8d61$ff38d300$fdaa7900$@redwoodempiremini.com>

I have posted some photos at:
http://www.redwoodempiremini.com/mbbs2/photos/photo-thumbnails.asp?albumid=3
44

This is one of my favorite All-British Car Shows in Northern California
(fifth time for me). The Woodland Show is definitely the most attended (but
usually really hot even in May) and is my favorite, with the Morgan Hill
(San Juan Bautista) a very close second. Unfortunately the Chico Show and
Palo Alto Shows are dead and gone. I have never been to the Clovis Show...
maybe next year.

Peter

From jkenner at tamcab.com  Tue Oct 18 06:01:54 2011
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (JOHN KENNER)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 05:01:54 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] SATURDAYS RIDE
Message-ID: <000c01cc8d8d$bbdb0520$33910f60$@TAMCAB.COM>

I have to agree with Charlie, Damn the ground clearance.

 

Did you people read what Sheryl and Dennis sent? 30 yards of gravel in a
couple of spots!!

 

Slow down so there are no cars in front of you and your

beautiful LBC should be fine!  I've been over this road, It ain't so bad.

 

See you Sat.

 

JOHN KENNER

 

510 231 6803 OFFICE

415 806 2457 CELL

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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Tue Oct 18 08:50:08 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 07:50:08 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
Message-ID: <4E9D9220.5050204@gmail.com>

If you like your motorsports firmly tongue in cheek, this weekend may be for
you.

http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/skank2011.aspx
http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_oct\
ober/ 
<http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_october/>

Cheers,
Greg Tatarian

From gtwincams at gmail.com  Tue Oct 18 09:32:46 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:32:46 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Morgan Hill car show
In-Reply-To: <000901cc8d61$ff38d300$fdaa7900$@redwoodempiremini.com>
References: <20111018003834.2913EAE6CB@mail.dsl.napanet.net>
	<000901cc8d61$ff38d300$fdaa7900$@redwoodempiremini.com>
Message-ID: <4E9D9C1E.1040004@gmail.com>

Thanks, Peter.
Do you (or anyone else on this list) happen to know who owns that red 
Ginetta G4? I've seen photos of the car at a couple of other events.
Cheers,
Greg

From mvg1 at att.net  Tue Oct 18 10:08:41 2011
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:08:41 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Thanks Pizza, Drive on Saturday
References: <4e93bcc0.a3cfe70a.0ab0.ffffaf4a@mx.google.com><4E944D32.8090503@gmail.com>,
	<330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E090269618F@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>,
	<8B9734A4248B4B4C88C2085C39B67DA5@williamsonPC>,
	<F75E9044-7657-41BE-A759-3AC74953ECC3@sonic.net>,
	<4E96132D.8090304@gmail.com><SNT137-W118D569F0475BF9CC615C09CE40@phx.gbl><A448536C-1B24-48E6-9A68-BCACEA55CB4E@sonic.net><4E9CBDA5.1030201@gmail.com>
	<1318907613.13519.YahooMailRC@web83601.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2EBC7A375B2F41FCAF1A7BDF1C5833F9@mike>

Hey, I like this idea. I just had surgery on my neck again, and can't take 
any bumps or rough roads for a while, a nice smooth ride to Napa in November 
sounds good to me.

Michael Gianandrea
64 TR4

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sheryl" <techyes at pacbell.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Thanks Pizza, Drive on Saturday


> Hi All,
>
> We were thinking about a longer drive because this is the last drive 
> before the
> winter schedule.
>
> Kings Ridge was another idea for Saturday, but ends up nowhere near a 
> Marys
> Pizza.
> The fall colors are starting - heading towards Napa is always lovely, but 
> next
> month might have more color in the grape vines.
> Marys Pizza in Napa next month (November 19) if more people are available?
>
> Sheryl & Dennis
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Mon, October 17, 2011 4:43:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Thanks, Donations, Pizza
>
> I seem to recall driving this road (and the dirt sections) with the club 
> many
> years ago, and the Google Earth view of the road is awesome, but if this 
> route
> is going to exclude several of our cars, let's pick another date we can 
> meet up
> at Mary's Pizza Shack. Or, how about a secondary route for those of us who 
> have
> low cars or don't want rock dings?
>
> Greg Tatarian
>
>
> On 10/17/2011 3:11 PM, wendell bain wrote:
>> Sounds like the ground clearance might be a problem for the
>> Morgan. Hope you all have a great time.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Wendell
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From bluesson at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 18 14:03:30 2011
From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:03:30 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Thanks Pizza, Drive on Saturday
In-Reply-To: <1318907613.13519.YahooMailRC@web83601.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <4e93bcc0.a3cfe70a.0ab0.ffffaf4a@mx.google.com><4E944D32.8090503@gmail.com>,
	,
	<330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E090269618F@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>,
	, <8B9734A4248B4B4C88C2085C39B67DA5@williamsonPC>, ,
	<F75E9044-7657-41BE-A759-3AC74953ECC3@sonic.net>, ,
	<4E96132D.8090304@gmail.com>,
	<SNT137-W118D569F0475BF9CC615C09CE40@phx.gbl>,
	<A448536C-1B24-48E6-9A68-BCACEA55CB4E@sonic.net>,
	<4E9CBDA5.1030201@gmail.com>,
	<1318907613.13519.YahooMailRC@web83601.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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Grinnall Scorpion was up on that road once and HATED it. No way I'm going on
that road again. I drive a sports car, not a four wheel drive.  Tom R

> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:13:33 -0700
> From: techyes at pacbell.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Thanks Pizza, Drive on Saturday
>
> Hi All,
>
> We were thinking about a longer drive because this is the last drive before
the
> winter schedule.
>
> Kings Ridge was another idea for Saturday, but ends up nowhere near a Marys
> Pizza.
> The fall colors are starting - heading towards Napa is always lovely, but
next
> month might have more color in the grape vines.
> Marys Pizza in Napa next month (November 19) if more people are available?
>
> Sheryl & Dennis
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Mon, October 17, 2011 4:43:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Thanks, Donations, Pizza
>
> I seem to recall driving this road (and the dirt sections) with the club
many
> years ago, and the Google Earth view of the road is awesome, but if this
route
> is going to exclude several of our cars, let's pick another date we can meet
up
> at Mary's Pizza Shack. Or, how about a secondary route for those of us who
have
> low cars or don't want rock dings?
>
> Greg Tatarian
>
>
> On 10/17/2011 3:11 PM, wendell bain wrote:
> > Sounds like the ground clearance might be a problem for the
> > Morgan. Hope you all have a great time.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Wendell
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From bluesson at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 18 14:05:28 2011
From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:05:28 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Thanks Pizza, Drive on Saturday
In-Reply-To: <1318907613.13519.YahooMailRC@web83601.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <4e93bcc0.a3cfe70a.0ab0.ffffaf4a@mx.google.com><4E944D32.8090503@gmail.com>,
	,
	<330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E090269618F@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>,
	, <8B9734A4248B4B4C88C2085C39B67DA5@williamsonPC>, ,
	<F75E9044-7657-41BE-A759-3AC74953ECC3@sonic.net>, ,
	<4E96132D.8090304@gmail.com>,
	<SNT137-W118D569F0475BF9CC615C09CE40@phx.gbl>,
	<A448536C-1B24-48E6-9A68-BCACEA55CB4E@sonic.net>,
	<4E9CBDA5.1030201@gmail.com>,
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Why don't you all just meet at the Mary's on Summerfield Road and enjoy the
meal?

> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:13:33 -0700
> From: techyes at pacbell.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Thanks Pizza, Drive on Saturday
>
> Hi All,
>
> We were thinking about a longer drive because this is the last drive before
the
> winter schedule.
>
> Kings Ridge was another idea for Saturday, but ends up nowhere near a Marys
> Pizza.
> The fall colors are starting - heading towards Napa is always lovely, but
next
> month might have more color in the grape vines.
> Marys Pizza in Napa next month (November 19) if more people are available?
>
> Sheryl & Dennis
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Mon, October 17, 2011 4:43:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Thanks, Donations, Pizza
>
> I seem to recall driving this road (and the dirt sections) with the club
many
> years ago, and the Google Earth view of the road is awesome, but if this
route
> is going to exclude several of our cars, let's pick another date we can meet
up
> at Mary's Pizza Shack. Or, how about a secondary route for those of us who
have
> low cars or don't want rock dings?
>
> Greg Tatarian
>
>
> On 10/17/2011 3:11 PM, wendell bain wrote:
> > Sounds like the ground clearance might be a problem for the
> > Morgan. Hope you all have a great time.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Wendell
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From bluesson at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 18 14:09:38 2011
From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:09:38 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] YAHOO???
In-Reply-To: <C517D686DD454056AA9966427883D6DA@williamsonPC>
References: <4e93bcc0.a3cfe70a.0ab0.ffffaf4a@mx.google.com><4E944D32.8090503@gmail.com>,
	,
	<330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E090269618F@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>,
	, <8B9734A4248B4B4C88C2085C39B67DA5@williamsonPC>, ,
	<F75E9044-7657-41BE-A759-3AC74953ECC3@sonic.net>, ,
	<4E96132D.8090304@gmail.com><SNT137-W118D569F0475BF9CC615C09CE40@phx.gbl>,
	<4E9C2AF0.2070008@gmail.com>,
	<C517D686DD454056AA9966427883D6DA@williamsonPC>
Message-ID: <BLU164-W639571DBDCF25806AA10FFD0E50@phx.gbl>

 I'm member #1! I built the new NOBBC there and turned it over to Greg. He's
your moderator. Be sure and NOTE when you sign up that you now have the option
of 1. Individual emails, 2. Daily Digest, 3. log in on the web and read email
at the group homepage/site.
                                                          Tom R

> From: hawkview at sonic.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:38:26 -0700
> Subject: [NOBBC] YAHOO???
>
> You have been invited to join NOBBC group!
> What's up with this?
> Greg, is this you?
> Clif
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Tue Oct 18 17:24:59 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:24:59 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Thanks Pizza, Drive on Saturday
In-Reply-To: <BLU164-W510EFAAAD2BFECB1FFEDA7D0E50@phx.gbl>
References: <4e93bcc0.a3cfe70a.0ab0.ffffaf4a@mx.google.com><4E944D32.8090503@gmail.com>,
	,
	<330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E090269618F@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>, 
	, <8B9734A4248B4B4C88C2085C39B67DA5@williamsonPC>, ,
	<F75E9044-7657-41BE-A759-3AC74953ECC3@sonic.net>, ,
	<4E96132D.8090304@gmail.com>,
	<SNT137-W118D569F0475BF9CC615C09CE40@phx.gbl>,
	<A448536C-1B24-48E6-9A68-BCACEA55CB4E@sonic.net>,
	<4E9CBDA5.1030201@gmail.com>,
	<1318907613.13519.YahooMailRC@web83601.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<BLU164-W510EFAAAD2BFECB1FFEDA7D0E50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4E9E0ACB.1040004@gmail.com>

On 10/18/2011 1:05 PM, Tom Reier wrote:
> Why don't you all just meet at the Mary's on Summerfield Road and enjoy the
> meal?
>
>
Damned good idea, Tom.

I asked you members a week and a half ago to think of a date we could 
meet and no one came back with an idea of when you would want to get 
together to share the gift from Candy to those of us who helped her. I 
then suggested we combine lunch with a drive, but whether it's the road 
selection or other stuff, a number of us are giving it a pass.

How about I just set a date, just like any other car club, and you all 
can decide whether you want to attend? I'll invite Candy to join us.

Greg Tatarian

From tsthresh at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 18 19:51:04 2011
From: tsthresh at hotmail.com (Tim )
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 18:51:04 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Thanks Pizza, Drive on Saturday
In-Reply-To: <4E9E0ACB.1040004@gmail.com>
References: <4e93bcc0.a3cfe70a.0ab0.ffffaf4a@mx.google.com><4E944D32.8090503@gmail.com>,
	,
	<330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E090269618F@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>,
	, <8B9734A4248B4B4C88C2085C39B67DA5@williamsonPC>,
	,<F75E9044-7657-41BE-A759-3AC74953ECC3@sonic.net>,
	, <4E96132D.8090304@gmail.com>,
	<SNT137-W118D569F0475BF9CC615C09CE40@phx.gbl>,
	<A448536C-1B24-48E6-9A68-BCACEA55CB4E@sonic.net>,
	<4E9CBDA5.1030201@gmail.com>,
	<1318907613.13519.YahooMailRC@web83601.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><BLU164-W510EFAAAD2BFECB1FFEDA7D0E50@phx.gbl>
	<4E9E0ACB.1040004@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY170-DS15EFCB3DF0ADA018E14650D8EA0@phx.gbl>

Great idea Greg,

My flexibility ( with Saturdays) is limited but I hoped to make it for the 
November drive. But pick a date and a venue. If it is near ( or a scenic 
drive) then you may yet see me, top down and jacket on!

Tim
1958 MGA

-----Original Message----- 
From: Greg Tatarian
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 4:24 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Thanks Pizza, Drive on Saturday

On 10/18/2011 1:05 PM, Tom Reier wrote:
> Why don't you all just meet at the Mary's on Summerfield Road and enjoy 
> the
> meal?
>
>
Damned good idea, Tom.

I asked you members a week and a half ago to think of a date we could
meet and no one came back with an idea of when you would want to get
together to share the gift from Candy to those of us who helped her. I
then suggested we combine lunch with a drive, but whether it's the road
selection or other stuff, a number of us are giving it a pass.

How about I just set a date, just like any other car club, and you all
can decide whether you want to attend? I'll invite Candy to join us.

Greg Tatarian
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Tue Oct 18 19:55:38 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 18:55:38 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] YAHOO???
In-Reply-To: <4E9D0232.3050006@gmail.com>
References: <4e93bcc0.a3cfe70a.0ab0.ffffaf4a@mx.google.com><4E944D32.8090503@gmail.com>,
	<330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E090269618F@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>,
	<8B9734A4248B4B4C88C2085C39B67DA5@williamsonPC>,
	<F75E9044-7657-41BE-A759-3AC74953ECC3@sonic.net>,
	<4E96132D.8090304@gmail.com><SNT137-W118D569F0475BF9CC615C09CE40@phx.gbl><4E9C2AF0.2070008@gmail.com><C517D686DD454056AA9966427883D6DA@williamsonPC>
	<4E9D0232.3050006@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B91C299553964313BAD8FA7007BC18C1@williamsonPC>

Not necessary.  I was just losing track of what the heck was going on.
There was no indication of who sent the invitation so I thought maybe we had 
a poacher.
Will join tonight.
Thanks
Clif

-----Original Message----- 
From: Greg Tatarian
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:36 PM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] YAHOO???

On 10/17/2011 7:38 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
> You have been invited to join NOBBC group!
> What's up with this?
> Greg, is this you?
> Clif
Uh, yes, Clif. I've sent a few emails about this to the list.
I'll send them all to you personally so you get them.
Greg
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Tue Oct 18 20:42:44 2011
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (JOHN KENNER)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 19:42:44 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] our next ride
Message-ID: <002f01cc8e08$c8a71f20$59f55d60$@TAMCAB.COM>

Sheryl and Dennis,

 

Thank you for all the effort you have put into planning

this weekend's ride and I'll see you there.

 

Bad Ass Coffee at 10am.

 

As always, bring a full tank of gas and a lunch,

and maybe your folding chair.

 

Happy trails,

 

JOHN KENNER

 

510 231 6803 OFFICE

415 806 2457 CELL

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From hawkview at sonic.net  Tue Oct 18 21:45:59 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 20:45:59 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Thanks Pizza, Drive on Saturday
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I like that idea best Greg.
Clif

-----Original Message----- 
From: Greg Tatarian
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 4:24 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Thanks Pizza, Drive on Saturday

On 10/18/2011 1:05 PM, Tom Reier wrote:
> Why don't you all just meet at the Mary's on Summerfield Road and enjoy 
> the
> meal?
>
>
Damned good idea, Tom.

I asked you members a week and a half ago to think of a date we could
meet and no one came back with an idea of when you would want to get
together to share the gift from Candy to those of us who helped her. I
then suggested we combine lunch with a drive, but whether it's the road
selection or other stuff, a number of us are giving it a pass.

How about I just set a date, just like any other car club, and you all
can decide whether you want to attend? I'll invite Candy to join us.

Greg Tatarian
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Tue Oct 18 21:54:11 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 20:54:11 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
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Well since you brought it up...Lemons that is.
Is anybody interested in putting together a team and of course a car for 
next years 24 Hours Of Lemons?  I think it would be a hoot.  Must be an LBC 
around we could pick up for a couple of hundred bucks.  No race license 
required.  Just the will and some time.
Clif
74 Jensen Healey

-----Original Message----- 
From: Greg Tatarian
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:50 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!

If you like your motorsports firmly tongue in cheek, this weekend may be for
you.

http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/skank2011.aspx
http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_oct\
ober/
<http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_october/>

Cheers,
Greg Tatarian
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Wed Oct 19 05:42:52 2011
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (JOHN KENNER)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 04:42:52 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
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I'm interested in the Lemon

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 OFFICE
415 806 2457 CELL



-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:54 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!

Well since you brought it up...Lemons that is.
Is anybody interested in putting together a team and of course a car for 
next years 24 Hours Of Lemons?  I think it would be a hoot.  Must be an LBC 
around we could pick up for a couple of hundred bucks.  No race license 
required.  Just the will and some time.
Clif
74 Jensen Healey

-----Original Message----- 
From: Greg Tatarian
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:50 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!

If you like your motorsports firmly tongue in cheek, this weekend may be for
you.

http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/skank2011.aspx
http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons
_oct\
ober/
<http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemon
s_october/>

Cheers,
Greg Tatarian
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From norman.weinfeld at gmail.com  Wed Oct 19 07:35:37 2011
From: norman.weinfeld at gmail.com (Norman S. Weinfeld)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 06:35:37 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] YAHOO???
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I for one would be all for switching over entirely to this format. Is there
any advantage to not having these options?

Norm Weinfeld

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Tom Reier <bluesson at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  I'm member #1! I built the new NOBBC there and turned it over to Greg.
> He's
> your moderator. Be sure and NOTE when you sign up that you now have the
> option
> of 1. Individual emails, 2. Daily Digest, 3. log in on the web and read
> email
> at the group homepage/site.
>                                                          Tom R
>
> > From: hawkview at sonic.net
> > To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> > Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:38:26 -0700
> > Subject: [NOBBC] YAHOO???
> >
> > You have been invited to join NOBBC group!
> > What's up with this?
> > Greg, is this you?
> > Clif
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From mvg1 at att.net  Wed Oct 19 09:52:35 2011
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:52:35 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
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Hi Cliff,

What a coinkydink. It's not an lbc, but I have a little beater Ford Escort 
that has been living outside the back door of my shop for about six years, 
and I was thinking of turning into a Lemons car. It's already been beat up 
by vandals, and as such, is somewhat ugly, but it runs, and is free, 
contributing to the concept of a value of $500 or less to qualify. We could 
put some brit flags, verbage all over it, paint it to look like a british 
flag, whatever to identify the NOBBC, but what a hoot to actually get some 
volunteers together and go race. And I would consider it a blessing to NOT 
sacrifice any british car of any condition. There are plenty of Escorts 
around, to use up. Thoughts anyone?

Michael Gianandrea
64 TR4

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


> Well since you brought it up...Lemons that is.
> Is anybody interested in putting together a team and of course a car for 
> next years 24 Hours Of Lemons?  I think it would be a hoot.  Must be an 
> LBC around we could pick up for a couple of hundred bucks.  No race 
> license required.  Just the will and some time.
> Clif
> 74 Jensen Healey
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Greg Tatarian
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:50 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
> If you like your motorsports firmly tongue in cheek, this weekend may be 
> for
> you.
>
> http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/skank2011.aspx
> http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_oct\
> ober/
> <http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_october/>
>
> Cheers,
> Greg Tatarian
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From mvg1 at att.net  Wed Oct 19 11:32:27 2011
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:32:27 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Fw:  After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
Message-ID: <CBBB737B10CE41D9A4C95B03EC9501C5@mike>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Gianandrea" <mvg1 at att.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


> Hi Cliff,
>
> What a coinkydink. It's not an lbc, but I have a little beater Ford Escort 
> that has been living outside the back door of my shop for about six years, 
> and I was thinking of turning into a Lemons car. It's already been beat up 
> by vandals, and as such, is somewhat ugly, but it runs, and is free, 
> contributing to the concept of a value of $500 or less to qualify. We 
> could put some brit flags, verbage all over it, paint it to look like a 
> british flag, whatever to identify the NOBBC, but what a hoot to actually 
> get some volunteers together and go race. And I would consider it a 
> blessing to NOT sacrifice any british car of any condition. There are 
> plenty of Escorts around, to use up. Thoughts anyone?
>
> Michael Gianandrea
> 64 TR4
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
>
>> Well since you brought it up...Lemons that is.
>> Is anybody interested in putting together a team and of course a car for 
>> next years 24 Hours Of Lemons?  I think it would be a hoot.  Must be an 
>> LBC around we could pick up for a couple of hundred bucks.  No race 
>> license required.  Just the will and some time.
>> Clif
>> 74 Jensen Healey
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Greg Tatarian
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:50 AM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>
>> If you like your motorsports firmly tongue in cheek, this weekend may be 
>> for
>> you.
>>
>> http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/skank2011.aspx
>> http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_oct\
>> ober/
>> <http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_october/>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Greg Tatarian
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From tsthresh at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 19 12:42:37 2011
From: tsthresh at hotmail.com (Tim )
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:42:37 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
In-Reply-To: <719F40CCA5354A9EBB0E0C95334BCF87@mike>
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Mike,

The Ford Escort was also a LBC, made in Halewood UK (near Liverpool) with 
rear-wheel drive and a front engine cross-flow  push-rod 1600cc engine( the 
Kent which was similar to the Pinto). If yours is any way close then we 
should have a winner!  Forget those 5 liter V-8 lemons- the Escort was a 
world beating road rallye car in its day.

See  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Escort_(Europe)  particularly the 
latter part about rallyeing!

Tim
1958 MGA

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Gianandrea
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:52 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!

Hi Cliff,

What a coinkydink. It's not an lbc, but I have a little beater Ford Escort
that has been living outside the back door of my shop for about six years,
and I was thinking of turning into a Lemons car. It's already been beat up
by vandals, and as such, is somewhat ugly, but it runs, and is free,
contributing to the concept of a value of $500 or less to qualify. We could
put some brit flags, verbage all over it, paint it to look like a british
flag, whatever to identify the NOBBC, but what a hoot to actually get some
volunteers together and go race. And I would consider it a blessing to NOT
sacrifice any british car of any condition. There are plenty of Escorts
around, to use up. Thoughts anyone?

Michael Gianandrea
64 TR4

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


> Well since you brought it up...Lemons that is.
> Is anybody interested in putting together a team and of course a car for 
> next years 24 Hours Of Lemons?  I think it would be a hoot.  Must be an 
> LBC around we could pick up for a couple of hundred bucks.  No race 
> license required.  Just the will and some time.
> Clif
> 74 Jensen Healey
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Greg Tatarian
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:50 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
> If you like your motorsports firmly tongue in cheek, this weekend may be 
> for
> you.
>
> http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/skank2011.aspx
> http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_oct\
> ober/
> <http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_october/>
>
> Cheers,
> Greg Tatarian
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From lgardini at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 19 14:27:27 2011
From: lgardini at sbcglobal.net (Larry Gardini)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:27:27 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Fw:  After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
In-Reply-To: <CBBB737B10CE41D9A4C95B03EC9501C5@mike>
Message-ID: <MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKEEIECLAA.lgardini@sbcglobal.net>

I can offer up a 1975 Spitfire with a Buick V6 as a project if it needs to
be a British car.

Larry Gardini

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:32 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [NOBBC] Fw: After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gianandrea" <mvg1 at att.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


> Hi Cliff,
>
> What a coinkydink. It's not an lbc, but I have a little beater Ford Escort
> that has been living outside the back door of my shop for about six years,
> and I was thinking of turning into a Lemons car. It's already been beat up
> by vandals, and as such, is somewhat ugly, but it runs, and is free,
> contributing to the concept of a value of $500 or less to qualify. We
> could put some brit flags, verbage all over it, paint it to look like a
> british flag, whatever to identify the NOBBC, but what a hoot to actually
> get some volunteers together and go race. And I would consider it a
> blessing to NOT sacrifice any british car of any condition. There are
> plenty of Escorts around, to use up. Thoughts anyone?
>
> Michael Gianandrea
> 64 TR4
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
>
>> Well since you brought it up...Lemons that is.
>> Is anybody interested in putting together a team and of course a car for
>> next years 24 Hours Of Lemons?  I think it would be a hoot.  Must be an
>> LBC around we could pick up for a couple of hundred bucks.  No race
>> license required.  Just the will and some time.
>> Clif
>> 74 Jensen Healey
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Greg Tatarian
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:50 AM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>
>> If you like your motorsports firmly tongue in cheek, this weekend may be
>> for
>> you.
>>
>> http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/skank2011.aspx
>>
http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons
_oct\
>> ober/
>>
<http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemon
s_october/>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Greg Tatarian
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From mvg1 at att.net  Wed Oct 19 16:47:10 2011
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:47:10 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
References: <4E9D9220.5050204@gmail.com><DBF785C3658B4AAFA3DF47427FAB8C25@williamsonPC><719F40CCA5354A9EBB0E0C95334BCF87@mike>
	<BAY170-DS11BF4AFB5C3A41D3F5177CD8EA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <9F6FD39018A74151A291F3FF9A0E9A23@mike>

Well alrighty now, we got one piece of enthusiasm. How about some volunteers 
to work and race? The Lemons race is a team concept based on Le Mans type 
racing, so there must be a number of team members to alternate driving 
around the clock besides fixing and prepping a vehicle, so if you work, you 
drive. Can you see yourself going throught the carousel at 60 MPH at 2 AM? 
Come on ladies and germs, this could be fun. Cliff?

Michael Gianandrea    (MVG)
64 TR4

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim " <tsthresh at hotmail.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


> Mike,
>
> The Ford Escort was also a LBC, made in Halewood UK (near Liverpool) with 
> rear-wheel drive and a front engine cross-flow  push-rod 1600cc engine( 
> the Kent which was similar to the Pinto). If yours is any way close then 
> we should have a winner!  Forget those 5 liter V-8 lemons- the Escort was 
> a world beating road rallye car in its day.
>
> See  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Escort_(Europe)  particularly the 
> latter part about rallyeing!
>
> Tim
> 1958 MGA
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Mike Gianandrea
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:52 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
> Hi Cliff,
>
> What a coinkydink. It's not an lbc, but I have a little beater Ford Escort
> that has been living outside the back door of my shop for about six years,
> and I was thinking of turning into a Lemons car. It's already been beat up
> by vandals, and as such, is somewhat ugly, but it runs, and is free,
> contributing to the concept of a value of $500 or less to qualify. We 
> could
> put some brit flags, verbage all over it, paint it to look like a british
> flag, whatever to identify the NOBBC, but what a hoot to actually get some
> volunteers together and go race. And I would consider it a blessing to NOT
> sacrifice any british car of any condition. There are plenty of Escorts
> around, to use up. Thoughts anyone?
>
> Michael Gianandrea
> 64 TR4
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
>
>> Well since you brought it up...Lemons that is.
>> Is anybody interested in putting together a team and of course a car for 
>> next years 24 Hours Of Lemons?  I think it would be a hoot.  Must be an 
>> LBC around we could pick up for a couple of hundred bucks.  No race 
>> license required.  Just the will and some time.
>> Clif
>> 74 Jensen Healey
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Greg Tatarian
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:50 AM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>
>> If you like your motorsports firmly tongue in cheek, this weekend may be 
>> for
>> you.
>>
>> http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/skank2011.aspx
>> http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_oct\
>> ober/
>> <http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_october/>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Greg Tatarian
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From mvg1 at att.net  Wed Oct 19 18:10:35 2011
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 17:10:35 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Fw:  After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
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Hey Larry,

It doesn't have to be a british car, just dispensible and the preference of 
the majority of the volunteers. If we get some participants, and they want a 
british car, then we'll do that, but you can expect it to pretty trashed.

MVG

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Gardini" <lgardini at sbcglobal.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Fw: After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


>I can offer up a 1975 Spitfire with a Buick V6 as a project if it needs to
> be a British car.
>
> Larry Gardini
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:32 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: [NOBBC] Fw: After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Gianandrea" <mvg1 at att.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
>
>> Hi Cliff,
>>
>> What a coinkydink. It's not an lbc, but I have a little beater Ford 
>> Escort
>> that has been living outside the back door of my shop for about six 
>> years,
>> and I was thinking of turning into a Lemons car. It's already been beat 
>> up
>> by vandals, and as such, is somewhat ugly, but it runs, and is free,
>> contributing to the concept of a value of $500 or less to qualify. We
>> could put some brit flags, verbage all over it, paint it to look like a
>> british flag, whatever to identify the NOBBC, but what a hoot to actually
>> get some volunteers together and go race. And I would consider it a
>> blessing to NOT sacrifice any british car of any condition. There are
>> plenty of Escorts around, to use up. Thoughts anyone?
>>
>> Michael Gianandrea
>> 64 TR4
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>
>>
>>> Well since you brought it up...Lemons that is.
>>> Is anybody interested in putting together a team and of course a car for
>>> next years 24 Hours Of Lemons?  I think it would be a hoot.  Must be an
>>> LBC around we could pick up for a couple of hundred bucks.  No race
>>> license required.  Just the will and some time.
>>> Clif
>>> 74 Jensen Healey
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Greg Tatarian
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:50 AM
>>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>> Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>>
>>> If you like your motorsports firmly tongue in cheek, this weekend may be
>>> for
>>> you.
>>>
>>> http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/skank2011.aspx
>>>
> http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons
> _oct\
>>> ober/
>>>
> <http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemon
> s_october/>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Greg Tatarian
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From wkilch at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 19 19:51:45 2011
From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (wkilch at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 01:51:45 +0000
Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
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The rules say, you need three to five buddies with questionable judgment. I demonstrate that quality daily. I'm interested. It looks like we would need to shoot for March though. 

Walter
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mike Gianandrea" <mvg1 at att.net>
Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:47:10 
To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!

Well alrighty now, we got one piece of enthusiasm. How about some volunteers 
to work and race? The Lemons race is a team concept based on Le Mans type 
racing, so there must be a number of team members to alternate driving 
around the clock besides fixing and prepping a vehicle, so if you work, you 
drive. Can you see yourself going throught the carousel at 60 MPH at 2 AM? 
Come on ladies and germs, this could be fun. Cliff?

Michael Gianandrea    (MVG)
64 TR4

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim " <tsthresh at hotmail.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


> Mike,
>
> The Ford Escort was also a LBC, made in Halewood UK (near Liverpool) with 
> rear-wheel drive and a front engine cross-flow  push-rod 1600cc engine( 
> the Kent which was similar to the Pinto). If yours is any way close then 
> we should have a winner!  Forget those 5 liter V-8 lemons- the Escort was 
> a world beating road rallye car in its day.
>
> See  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Escort_(Europe)  particularly the 
> latter part about rallyeing!
>
> Tim
> 1958 MGA
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Mike Gianandrea
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:52 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
> Hi Cliff,
>
> What a coinkydink. It's not an lbc, but I have a little beater Ford Escort
> that has been living outside the back door of my shop for about six years,
> and I was thinking of turning into a Lemons car. It's already been beat up
> by vandals, and as such, is somewhat ugly, but it runs, and is free,
> contributing to the concept of a value of $500 or less to qualify. We 
> could
> put some brit flags, verbage all over it, paint it to look like a british
> flag, whatever to identify the NOBBC, but what a hoot to actually get some
> volunteers together and go race. And I would consider it a blessing to NOT
> sacrifice any british car of any condition. There are plenty of Escorts
> around, to use up. Thoughts anyone?
>
> Michael Gianandrea
> 64 TR4
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
>
>> Well since you brought it up...Lemons that is.
>> Is anybody interested in putting together a team and of course a car for 
>> next years 24 Hours Of Lemons?  I think it would be a hoot.  Must be an 
>> LBC around we could pick up for a couple of hundred bucks.  No race 
>> license required.  Just the will and some time.
>> Clif
>> 74 Jensen Healey
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Greg Tatarian
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:50 AM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>
>> If you like your motorsports firmly tongue in cheek, this weekend may be 
>> for
>> you.
>>
>> http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/skank2011.aspx
>> http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_oct\
>> ober/
>> <http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_october/>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Greg Tatarian
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Wed Oct 19 20:20:51 2011
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (JOHN KENNER)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 19:20:51 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
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Mike and Clif,

Count me in.

I read about it and it's not always a 24 hour event.
Hopefully I'll get some sleep between races.

I've got 2 size large Snell 2010 helmets
and a whole bunch of tools and nuts and bolts!!!!!!!!!

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 OFFICE
415 806 2457 CELL



-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:47 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!

Well alrighty now, we got one piece of enthusiasm. How about some volunteers
to work and race? The Lemons race is a team concept based on Le Mans type
racing, so there must be a number of team members to alternate driving
around the clock besides fixing and prepping a vehicle, so if you work, you
drive. Can you see yourself going throught the carousel at 60 MPH at 2 AM? 
Come on ladies and germs, this could be fun. Cliff?

Michael Gianandrea    (MVG)
64 TR4

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim " <tsthresh at hotmail.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


> Mike,
>
> The Ford Escort was also a LBC, made in Halewood UK (near Liverpool) with 
> rear-wheel drive and a front engine cross-flow  push-rod 1600cc engine( 
> the Kent which was similar to the Pinto). If yours is any way close then 
> we should have a winner!  Forget those 5 liter V-8 lemons- the Escort was 
> a world beating road rallye car in its day.
>
> See  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Escort_(Europe)  particularly the 
> latter part about rallyeing!
>
> Tim
> 1958 MGA
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Mike Gianandrea
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:52 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
> Hi Cliff,
>
> What a coinkydink. It's not an lbc, but I have a little beater Ford Escort
> that has been living outside the back door of my shop for about six years,
> and I was thinking of turning into a Lemons car. It's already been beat up
> by vandals, and as such, is somewhat ugly, but it runs, and is free,
> contributing to the concept of a value of $500 or less to qualify. We 
> could
> put some brit flags, verbage all over it, paint it to look like a british
> flag, whatever to identify the NOBBC, but what a hoot to actually get some
> volunteers together and go race. And I would consider it a blessing to NOT
> sacrifice any british car of any condition. There are plenty of Escorts
> around, to use up. Thoughts anyone?
>
> Michael Gianandrea
> 64 TR4
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
>
>> Well since you brought it up...Lemons that is.
>> Is anybody interested in putting together a team and of course a car for 
>> next years 24 Hours Of Lemons?  I think it would be a hoot.  Must be an 
>> LBC around we could pick up for a couple of hundred bucks.  No race 
>> license required.  Just the will and some time.
>> Clif
>> 74 Jensen Healey
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Greg Tatarian
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:50 AM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>
>> If you like your motorsports firmly tongue in cheek, this weekend may be 
>> for
>> you.
>>
>> http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/skank2011.aspx
>>
http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons
_oct\
>> ober/
>>
<http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemon
s_october/>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Greg Tatarian
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From lgardini at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 19 21:32:09 2011
From: lgardini at sbcglobal.net (lgardini at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 20:32:09 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
In-Reply-To: <9F6FD39018A74151A291F3FF9A0E9A23@mike>
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Mike 
I don't think they actually run a 24 hour around the clock program. 
I think it totals 24 hours of running time in the 2 day event.
If you haven't been to one of the events or read a lot about it you may want
to go check it out. They run with a different set of rules. Costumes are a
big part of the event.

Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:47 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!

Well alrighty now, we got one piece of enthusiasm. How about some volunteers

to work and race? The Lemons race is a team concept based on Le Mans type 
racing, so there must be a number of team members to alternate driving 
around the clock besides fixing and prepping a vehicle, so if you work, you 
drive. Can you see yourself going throught the carousel at 60 MPH at 2 AM? 
Come on ladies and germs, this could be fun. Cliff?

Michael Gianandrea    (MVG)
64 TR4

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim " <tsthresh at hotmail.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


> Mike,
>
> The Ford Escort was also a LBC, made in Halewood UK (near Liverpool) with 
> rear-wheel drive and a front engine cross-flow  push-rod 1600cc engine( 
> the Kent which was similar to the Pinto). If yours is any way close then 
> we should have a winner!  Forget those 5 liter V-8 lemons- the Escort was 
> a world beating road rallye car in its day.
>
> See  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Escort_(Europe)  particularly the 
> latter part about rallyeing!
>
> Tim
> 1958 MGA
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Mike Gianandrea
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:52 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
> Hi Cliff,
>
> What a coinkydink. It's not an lbc, but I have a little beater Ford Escort
> that has been living outside the back door of my shop for about six years,
> and I was thinking of turning into a Lemons car. It's already been beat up
> by vandals, and as such, is somewhat ugly, but it runs, and is free,
> contributing to the concept of a value of $500 or less to qualify. We 
> could
> put some brit flags, verbage all over it, paint it to look like a british
> flag, whatever to identify the NOBBC, but what a hoot to actually get some
> volunteers together and go race. And I would consider it a blessing to NOT
> sacrifice any british car of any condition. There are plenty of Escorts
> around, to use up. Thoughts anyone?
>
> Michael Gianandrea
> 64 TR4
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
>
>> Well since you brought it up...Lemons that is.
>> Is anybody interested in putting together a team and of course a car for 
>> next years 24 Hours Of Lemons?  I think it would be a hoot.  Must be an 
>> LBC around we could pick up for a couple of hundred bucks.  No race 
>> license required.  Just the will and some time.
>> Clif
>> 74 Jensen Healey
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Greg Tatarian
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:50 AM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>
>> If you like your motorsports firmly tongue in cheek, this weekend may be 
>> for
>> you.
>>
>> http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/skank2011.aspx
>>
http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons
_oct\
>> ober/
>>
<http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemon
s_october/>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Greg Tatarian
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Thu Oct 20 00:18:41 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 23:18:41 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Fw:  After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
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Holy Crap Larry.
That might even be competitive?  Scary as hell, but competitive.  But don't 
forget it had to cost less than $500.00.
So once we get a group organized we should have a meeting at say Mary's 
Pizza!  Just kidding.  But somewhere.
I am so Jazzed.  Escort or Spitfire...either way.   Or maybe both?  2 teams? 
Now we are talking club event!!!
Clif  74 Jensen Healey.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Larry Gardini
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:27 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Fw: After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!

I can offer up a 1975 Spitfire with a Buick V6 as a project if it needs to
be a British car.

Larry Gardini

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Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:32 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [NOBBC] Fw: After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gianandrea" <mvg1 at att.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


> Hi Cliff,
>
> What a coinkydink. It's not an lbc, but I have a little beater Ford Escort
> that has been living outside the back door of my shop for about six years,
> and I was thinking of turning into a Lemons car. It's already been beat up
> by vandals, and as such, is somewhat ugly, but it runs, and is free,
> contributing to the concept of a value of $500 or less to qualify. We
> could put some brit flags, verbage all over it, paint it to look like a
> british flag, whatever to identify the NOBBC, but what a hoot to actually
> get some volunteers together and go race. And I would consider it a
> blessing to NOT sacrifice any british car of any condition. There are
> plenty of Escorts around, to use up. Thoughts anyone?
>
> Michael Gianandrea
> 64 TR4
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
>
>> Well since you brought it up...Lemons that is.
>> Is anybody interested in putting together a team and of course a car for
>> next years 24 Hours Of Lemons?  I think it would be a hoot.  Must be an
>> LBC around we could pick up for a couple of hundred bucks.  No race
>> license required.  Just the will and some time.
>> Clif
>> 74 Jensen Healey
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Greg Tatarian
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:50 AM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>
>> If you like your motorsports firmly tongue in cheek, this weekend may be
>> for
>> you.
>>
>> http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/skank2011.aspx
>>
http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons
_oct\
>> ober/
>>
<http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemon
s_october/>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Greg Tatarian
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Thu Oct 20 00:41:10 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 23:41:10 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
In-Reply-To: <20111020042718.1A60C1878FA@autox.team.net>
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	<20111020042718.1A60C1878FA@autox.team.net>
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There was a race at Infineon in March, and one this weekend as well.  I plan 
on going for at least a few hours on Sunday.
But I am a little confused on the schedule.  Will somebody explain?  It 
doesn't really look like a 24 hour race.  More like one 7 1/2 hour race on 
Saturday, and one 8 hour race on Sunday.  Am I missing something?
Clif
PS.  There is a great video on the Infineon web page. 
http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_october/#tabschedule


Saturday, 22 October 2011

7:30am: Gates open
9:30am: Mandatory drivers' meeting
10:30am-6pm: Race session I
Sunday, 23 October 2011

8:15am: Mandatory drivers' meeting
9am-5pm: Race session II
Noon: People's Curse
5pm: Checkered flag
5:30pm: Awards
8:00pm: Gates close

-----Original Message----- 
From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:51 PM
To: NOBBC
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!

The rules say, you need three to five buddies with questionable judgment. I 
demonstrate that quality daily. I'm interested. It looks like we would need 
to shoot for March though.

Walter
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mike Gianandrea" <mvg1 at att.net>
Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:47:10
To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!

Well alrighty now, we got one piece of enthusiasm. How about some volunteers
to work and race? The Lemons race is a team concept based on Le Mans type
racing, so there must be a number of team members to alternate driving
around the clock besides fixing and prepping a vehicle, so if you work, you
drive. Can you see yourself going throught the carousel at 60 MPH at 2 AM?
Come on ladies and germs, this could be fun. Cliff?

Michael Gianandrea    (MVG)
64 TR4

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim " <tsthresh at hotmail.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


> Mike,
>
> The Ford Escort was also a LBC, made in Halewood UK (near Liverpool) with
> rear-wheel drive and a front engine cross-flow  push-rod 1600cc engine(
> the Kent which was similar to the Pinto). If yours is any way close then
> we should have a winner!  Forget those 5 liter V-8 lemons- the Escort was
> a world beating road rallye car in its day.
>
> See  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Escort_(Europe)  particularly the
> latter part about rallyeing!
>
> Tim
> 1958 MGA
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Mike Gianandrea
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:52 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
> Hi Cliff,
>
> What a coinkydink. It's not an lbc, but I have a little beater Ford Escort
> that has been living outside the back door of my shop for about six years,
> and I was thinking of turning into a Lemons car. It's already been beat up
> by vandals, and as such, is somewhat ugly, but it runs, and is free,
> contributing to the concept of a value of $500 or less to qualify. We
> could
> put some brit flags, verbage all over it, paint it to look like a british
> flag, whatever to identify the NOBBC, but what a hoot to actually get some
> volunteers together and go race. And I would consider it a blessing to NOT
> sacrifice any british car of any condition. There are plenty of Escorts
> around, to use up. Thoughts anyone?
>
> Michael Gianandrea
> 64 TR4
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
>
>> Well since you brought it up...Lemons that is.
>> Is anybody interested in putting together a team and of course a car for
>> next years 24 Hours Of Lemons?  I think it would be a hoot.  Must be an
>> LBC around we could pick up for a couple of hundred bucks.  No race
>> license required.  Just the will and some time.
>> Clif
>> 74 Jensen Healey
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Greg Tatarian
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:50 AM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>
>> If you like your motorsports firmly tongue in cheek, this weekend may be
>> for
>> you.
>>
>> http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/skank2011.aspx
>> http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_oct\
>> ober/
>> <http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_october/>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Greg Tatarian
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Thu Oct 20 00:47:01 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 23:47:01 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
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Right.  It looks more like LeMons meets Bay to Breakers.  And I count 15 1/2 
hours in this weekends event.  Which is good because we will only have to 
make sure the engines runs and not the lights.  At least that eliminates the 
Prince of Darkness from knocking us out of the race.


-----Original Message----- 
From: lgardini at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:32 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!

Mike
I don't think they actually run a 24 hour around the clock program.
I think it totals 24 hours of running time in the 2 day event.
If you haven't been to one of the events or read a lot about it you may want
to go check it out. They run with a different set of rules. Costumes are a
big part of the event.

Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:47 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!

Well alrighty now, we got one piece of enthusiasm. How about some volunteers

to work and race? The Lemons race is a team concept based on Le Mans type
racing, so there must be a number of team members to alternate driving
around the clock besides fixing and prepping a vehicle, so if you work, you
drive. Can you see yourself going throught the carousel at 60 MPH at 2 AM?
Come on ladies and germs, this could be fun. Cliff?

Michael Gianandrea    (MVG)
64 TR4

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim " <tsthresh at hotmail.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


> Mike,
>
> The Ford Escort was also a LBC, made in Halewood UK (near Liverpool) with
> rear-wheel drive and a front engine cross-flow  push-rod 1600cc engine(
> the Kent which was similar to the Pinto). If yours is any way close then
> we should have a winner!  Forget those 5 liter V-8 lemons- the Escort was
> a world beating road rallye car in its day.
>
> See  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Escort_(Europe)  particularly the
> latter part about rallyeing!
>
> Tim
> 1958 MGA
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Mike Gianandrea
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:52 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
> Hi Cliff,
>
> What a coinkydink. It's not an lbc, but I have a little beater Ford Escort
> that has been living outside the back door of my shop for about six years,
> and I was thinking of turning into a Lemons car. It's already been beat up
> by vandals, and as such, is somewhat ugly, but it runs, and is free,
> contributing to the concept of a value of $500 or less to qualify. We
> could
> put some brit flags, verbage all over it, paint it to look like a british
> flag, whatever to identify the NOBBC, but what a hoot to actually get some
> volunteers together and go race. And I would consider it a blessing to NOT
> sacrifice any british car of any condition. There are plenty of Escorts
> around, to use up. Thoughts anyone?
>
> Michael Gianandrea
> 64 TR4
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
>
>> Well since you brought it up...Lemons that is.
>> Is anybody interested in putting together a team and of course a car for
>> next years 24 Hours Of Lemons?  I think it would be a hoot.  Must be an
>> LBC around we could pick up for a couple of hundred bucks.  No race
>> license required.  Just the will and some time.
>> Clif
>> 74 Jensen Healey
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Greg Tatarian
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:50 AM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>
>> If you like your motorsports firmly tongue in cheek, this weekend may be
>> for
>> you.
>>
>> http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/skank2011.aspx
>>
http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons
_oct\
>> ober/
>>
<http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemon
s_october/>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Greg Tatarian
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Thu Oct 20 08:31:54 2011
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (JOHN KENNER)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 07:31:54 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Fw:  After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
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I need someone's help.

For some unknown reason neither Mike Gianandrea or Larry Gardini
receive my NOBBC  or personal emails. 

Can someone please send out an email telling them I want in on the Lemons
racing.

Thanks,

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 OFFICE
415 806 2457 CELL



-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:19 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Fw: After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!

Holy Crap Larry.
That might even be competitive?  Scary as hell, but competitive.  But don't 
forget it had to cost less than $500.00.
So once we get a group organized we should have a meeting at say Mary's 
Pizza!  Just kidding.  But somewhere.
I am so Jazzed.  Escort or Spitfire...either way.   Or maybe both?  2 teams?

Now we are talking club event!!!
Clif  74 Jensen Healey.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Larry Gardini
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:27 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Fw: After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!

I can offer up a 1975 Spitfire with a Buick V6 as a project if it needs to
be a British car.

Larry Gardini

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:32 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [NOBBC] Fw: After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gianandrea" <mvg1 at att.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


> Hi Cliff,
>
> What a coinkydink. It's not an lbc, but I have a little beater Ford Escort
> that has been living outside the back door of my shop for about six years,
> and I was thinking of turning into a Lemons car. It's already been beat up
> by vandals, and as such, is somewhat ugly, but it runs, and is free,
> contributing to the concept of a value of $500 or less to qualify. We
> could put some brit flags, verbage all over it, paint it to look like a
> british flag, whatever to identify the NOBBC, but what a hoot to actually
> get some volunteers together and go race. And I would consider it a
> blessing to NOT sacrifice any british car of any condition. There are
> plenty of Escorts around, to use up. Thoughts anyone?
>
> Michael Gianandrea
> 64 TR4
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
>
>> Well since you brought it up...Lemons that is.
>> Is anybody interested in putting together a team and of course a car for
>> next years 24 Hours Of Lemons?  I think it would be a hoot.  Must be an
>> LBC around we could pick up for a couple of hundred bucks.  No race
>> license required.  Just the will and some time.
>> Clif
>> 74 Jensen Healey
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Greg Tatarian
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:50 AM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>
>> If you like your motorsports firmly tongue in cheek, this weekend may be
>> for
>> you.
>>
>> http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/skank2011.aspx
>>
http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons
_oct\
>> ober/
>>
<http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemon
s_october/>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Greg Tatarian
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Thu Oct 20 08:34:09 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 07:34:09 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
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This is from one of our members, Michael Vogel (who by the way, was one 
of several folks interested in buying Ron's car).
Cheers,
Greg Tatarian

> Hey All,
>
> If you have never had the opportunity to attend a 24 Hours of Lemons 
> event this is a reminder that Lemons is in town this weekend at Sears 
> Point so come on out and see what happens when Burning Man meets Auto 
> Racing, it's a must see extravaganza. Where else can you see the Space 
> Shuttle car(with full shuttle and both rocket boosters) battling the 
> Pile of Crap car (yes an 80's amer car with giant faux (thank 
> goodness) piles of crap on its trunk. And those are just the PG rated 
> cars. It's worth the price of admission!
>
> If you do make it out come by and say hello to the */Bridgeway Bombers 
> Racing Team/* (yep that's us) and our entry (2^nd race) the */Black 
> Widow/*! The Black Widow did great its first event albeit playing the 
> Tortoise and passing others when they were in the pits. We hope to 
> improve this time around as we have had more of a chance to tune it up.
>
> You can find our trailer by looking for the 6 foot black widow that 
> will be adorning my trailer and shaking its head!
>
> Racing is 10:30 to 6:00 on Saturday and 9:00 to 5:00 on Sunday.
>
> Hope to see you out there.
>

> *Michael S. Vogel*
>
> /President/CEO/
>
> *DCS Partnership Group (www.dcspg.com) *
>
> *Creating Your Space (www.creatingyourspace.com)*
>
> *480 Gate 5 Road, Suite 113***
>
> *Sausalito, Ca 94965*
>
> *415.275.9027 (direct)*
>
> **
>
> **

From gtwincams at gmail.com  Thu Oct 20 08:49:07 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 07:49:07 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Sell your cars/parts on our Yahoo Group site
Message-ID: <4EA034E3.7000602@gmail.com>

If you have cars or parts for sale, you can offer them to members on our 
new Yahoo Group site (if you have signed up). Use the "Group Labs (Beta) 
- Applications" option, then select "For Sale" and list your item(s).

Also, if the discussions are getting serious about entering one or more 
teams for 24 Hours of Lemons, the Yahoo Group would be the perfect venue 
for planning, scheduling and progress reports/photos.

Cheers,

Greg Tatarian

From gtwincams at gmail.com  Thu Oct 20 10:51:56 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 09:51:56 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Fw:  After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
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John,
In the header of every email you get from this list should be the 
sender's email address. Have you tried sending email to them directly? 
If they don't get individual emails they may have your email on their 
spam list.
Or, if they join the Yahoo Group this won't be a problem.
Greg Tatarian



On 10/20/2011 7:31 AM, JOHN KENNER wrote:
> I need someone's help.
>
> For some unknown reason neither Mike Gianandrea or Larry Gardini
> receive my NOBBC  or personal emails.
>
> Can someone please send out an email telling them I want in on the Lemons
> racing.
>
> Thanks,
>
> JOHN KENNER
>
> 510 231 6803 OFFICE
> 415 806 2457 CELL

From mvg1 at att.net  Thu Oct 20 11:37:13 2011
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:37:13 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Fw:  After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
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	<08A9AF8D85B8412FAE55498B01709490@williamsonPC>
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Escort or Spitfire?

Could you imagine actually entering a race and winning SOMETHING? I am 
considering installing guns in front, and an oil spreader in the rear on my 
Escort to increase my odds. (LOL) I told my wife about this last night and 
she told me I can't have HER Escort after the several thousands of dollars I 
have invested in repairs, maintainance and storage. My landlord would dure 
like to see it disappear.Maybe I'll give her $5 and a new rocking chair for 
it, and Larry if we get there, stay in front of me so you don't get caught 
in the oil bath. Maybe I'll install a VCR in the license plate well, and 
play a dirty movie for those behind me. See you all in the winner's circle.

MVG

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Fw: After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


> Holy Crap Larry.
> That might even be competitive?  Scary as hell, but competitive.  But 
> don't forget it had to cost less than $500.00.
> So once we get a group organized we should have a meeting at say Mary's 
> Pizza!  Just kidding.  But somewhere.
> I am so Jazzed.  Escort or Spitfire...either way.   Or maybe both?  2 
> teams? Now we are talking club event!!!
> Clif  74 Jensen Healey.
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Larry Gardini
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:27 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Fw: After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
> I can offer up a 1975 Spitfire with a Buick V6 as a project if it needs to
> be a British car.
>
> Larry Gardini
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:32 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: [NOBBC] Fw: After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Gianandrea" <mvg1 at att.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
>
>> Hi Cliff,
>>
>> What a coinkydink. It's not an lbc, but I have a little beater Ford 
>> Escort
>> that has been living outside the back door of my shop for about six 
>> years,
>> and I was thinking of turning into a Lemons car. It's already been beat 
>> up
>> by vandals, and as such, is somewhat ugly, but it runs, and is free,
>> contributing to the concept of a value of $500 or less to qualify. We
>> could put some brit flags, verbage all over it, paint it to look like a
>> british flag, whatever to identify the NOBBC, but what a hoot to actually
>> get some volunteers together and go race. And I would consider it a
>> blessing to NOT sacrifice any british car of any condition. There are
>> plenty of Escorts around, to use up. Thoughts anyone?
>>
>> Michael Gianandrea
>> 64 TR4
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>
>>
>>> Well since you brought it up...Lemons that is.
>>> Is anybody interested in putting together a team and of course a car for
>>> next years 24 Hours Of Lemons?  I think it would be a hoot.  Must be an
>>> LBC around we could pick up for a couple of hundred bucks.  No race
>>> license required.  Just the will and some time.
>>> Clif
>>> 74 Jensen Healey
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Greg Tatarian
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:50 AM
>>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>> Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>>
>>> If you like your motorsports firmly tongue in cheek, this weekend may be
>>> for
>>> you.
>>>
>>> http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/skank2011.aspx
>>>
> http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons
> _oct\
>>> ober/
>>>
> <http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemon
> s_october/>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Greg Tatarian
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From mvg1 at att.net  Thu Oct 20 11:41:17 2011
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:41:17 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
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Hey Cliff,

I am probably the one that is more confused, I didn't do my homework before 
shooting my mouth off, but it would still make a great club project, I'm 
sure we could have a lot of fun with it. If anyone else is going out to 
Infineon this weekend, maybe we can meet up and watch and learn.

MVG

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


> There was a race at Infineon in March, and one this weekend as well.  I 
> plan on going for at least a few hours on Sunday.
> But I am a little confused on the schedule.  Will somebody explain?  It 
> doesn't really look like a 24 hour race.  More like one 7 1/2 hour race on 
> Saturday, and one 8 hour race on Sunday.  Am I missing something?
> Clif
> PS.  There is a great video on the Infineon web page. 
> http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_october/#tabschedule
>
>
> Saturday, 22 October 2011
>
> 7:30am: Gates open
> 9:30am: Mandatory drivers' meeting
> 10:30am-6pm: Race session I
> Sunday, 23 October 2011
>
> 8:15am: Mandatory drivers' meeting
> 9am-5pm: Race session II
> Noon: People's Curse
> 5pm: Checkered flag
> 5:30pm: Awards
> 8:00pm: Gates close
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:51 PM
> To: NOBBC
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
> The rules say, you need three to five buddies with questionable judgment. 
> I demonstrate that quality daily. I'm interested. It looks like we would 
> need to shoot for March though.
>
> Walter
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Mike Gianandrea" <mvg1 at att.net>
> Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:47:10
> To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
> Well alrighty now, we got one piece of enthusiasm. How about some 
> volunteers
> to work and race? The Lemons race is a team concept based on Le Mans type
> racing, so there must be a number of team members to alternate driving
> around the clock besides fixing and prepping a vehicle, so if you work, 
> you
> drive. Can you see yourself going throught the carousel at 60 MPH at 2 AM?
> Come on ladies and germs, this could be fun. Cliff?
>
> Michael Gianandrea    (MVG)
> 64 TR4
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tim " <tsthresh at hotmail.com>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
>
>> Mike,
>>
>> The Ford Escort was also a LBC, made in Halewood UK (near Liverpool) with
>> rear-wheel drive and a front engine cross-flow  push-rod 1600cc engine(
>> the Kent which was similar to the Pinto). If yours is any way close then
>> we should have a winner!  Forget those 5 liter V-8 lemons- the Escort was
>> a world beating road rallye car in its day.
>>
>> See  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Escort_(Europe)  particularly the
>> latter part about rallyeing!
>>
>> Tim
>> 1958 MGA
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Mike Gianandrea
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:52 AM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>
>> Hi Cliff,
>>
>> What a coinkydink. It's not an lbc, but I have a little beater Ford 
>> Escort
>> that has been living outside the back door of my shop for about six 
>> years,
>> and I was thinking of turning into a Lemons car. It's already been beat 
>> up
>> by vandals, and as such, is somewhat ugly, but it runs, and is free,
>> contributing to the concept of a value of $500 or less to qualify. We
>> could
>> put some brit flags, verbage all over it, paint it to look like a british
>> flag, whatever to identify the NOBBC, but what a hoot to actually get 
>> some
>> volunteers together and go race. And I would consider it a blessing to 
>> NOT
>> sacrifice any british car of any condition. There are plenty of Escorts
>> around, to use up. Thoughts anyone?
>>
>> Michael Gianandrea
>> 64 TR4
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>
>>
>>> Well since you brought it up...Lemons that is.
>>> Is anybody interested in putting together a team and of course a car for
>>> next years 24 Hours Of Lemons?  I think it would be a hoot.  Must be an
>>> LBC around we could pick up for a couple of hundred bucks.  No race
>>> license required.  Just the will and some time.
>>> Clif
>>> 74 Jensen Healey
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Greg Tatarian
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:50 AM
>>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>> Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>>
>>> If you like your motorsports firmly tongue in cheek, this weekend may be
>>> for
>>> you.
>>>
>>> http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/skank2011.aspx
>>> http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_oct\
>>> ober/
>>> <http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_october/>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Greg Tatarian
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From mvg1 at att.net  Thu Oct 20 12:46:42 2011
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 11:46:42 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Fw:  After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
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Thank you John,

I had been complaining to ron abou this for a long time, but we have never 
been able to figure it, hence, I've been missing a lot. Sure would be nice 
to get clued in.

MVG

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Tatarian" <gtwincams at gmail.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Fw: After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


> John,
> In the header of every email you get from this list should be the sender's 
> email address. Have you tried sending email to them directly? If they 
> don't get individual emails they may have your email on their spam list.
> Or, if they join the Yahoo Group this won't be a problem.
> Greg Tatarian
>
>
>
> On 10/20/2011 7:31 AM, JOHN KENNER wrote:
>> I need someone's help.
>>
>> For some unknown reason neither Mike Gianandrea or Larry Gardini
>> receive my NOBBC  or personal emails.
>>
>> Can someone please send out an email telling them I want in on the Lemons
>> racing.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> JOHN KENNER
>>
>> 510 231 6803 OFFICE
>> 415 806 2457 CELL
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From wkilch at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct 20 12:47:01 2011
From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (wkilch at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 18:47:01 +0000
Subject: [NOBBC] Fw:  After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
In-Reply-To: <000401cc8f35$04e0c5e0$0ea251a0$@TAMCAB.COM>
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I'm responding to get your email through. 

W
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: JOHN KENNER <jkenner at tamcab.com>
Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 07:31:54 
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'<nobbc at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Fw:  After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!

I need someone's help.

For some unknown reason neither Mike Gianandrea or Larry Gardini
receive my NOBBC  or personal emails. 

Can someone please send out an email telling them I want in on the Lemons
racing.

Thanks,

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 OFFICE
415 806 2457 CELL



-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:19 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Fw: After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!

Holy Crap Larry.
That might even be competitive?  Scary as hell, but competitive.  But don't 
forget it had to cost less than $500.00.
So once we get a group organized we should have a meeting at say Mary's 
Pizza!  Just kidding.  But somewhere.
I am so Jazzed.  Escort or Spitfire...either way.   Or maybe both?  2 teams?

Now we are talking club event!!!
Clif  74 Jensen Healey.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Larry Gardini
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:27 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Fw: After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!

I can offer up a 1975 Spitfire with a Buick V6 as a project if it needs to
be a British car.

Larry Gardini

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:32 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [NOBBC] Fw: After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gianandrea" <mvg1 at att.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


> Hi Cliff,
>
> What a coinkydink. It's not an lbc, but I have a little beater Ford Escort
> that has been living outside the back door of my shop for about six years,
> and I was thinking of turning into a Lemons car. It's already been beat up
> by vandals, and as such, is somewhat ugly, but it runs, and is free,
> contributing to the concept of a value of $500 or less to qualify. We
> could put some brit flags, verbage all over it, paint it to look like a
> british flag, whatever to identify the NOBBC, but what a hoot to actually
> get some volunteers together and go race. And I would consider it a
> blessing to NOT sacrifice any british car of any condition. There are
> plenty of Escorts around, to use up. Thoughts anyone?
>
> Michael Gianandrea
> 64 TR4
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
>
>> Well since you brought it up...Lemons that is.
>> Is anybody interested in putting together a team and of course a car for
>> next years 24 Hours Of Lemons?  I think it would be a hoot.  Must be an
>> LBC around we could pick up for a couple of hundred bucks.  No race
>> license required.  Just the will and some time.
>> Clif
>> 74 Jensen Healey
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Greg Tatarian
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:50 AM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>
>> If you like your motorsports firmly tongue in cheek, this weekend may be
>> for
>> you.
>>
>> http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/skank2011.aspx
>>
http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons
_oct\
>> ober/
>>
<http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemon
s_october/>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Greg Tatarian
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From wkilch at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct 20 14:51:10 2011
From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (wkilch at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 20:51:10 +0000
Subject: [NOBBC] Fw:  After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
In-Reply-To: <130AA7A84BCB474A9E82664EA1F5469C@mike>
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I have a nice maple rocking chair we might be able to sweeten the deal with. 

W
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mike Gianandrea" <mvg1 at att.net>
Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:37:13 
To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Fw:  After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!

Escort or Spitfire?

Could you imagine actually entering a race and winning SOMETHING? I am 
considering installing guns in front, and an oil spreader in the rear on my 
Escort to increase my odds. (LOL) I told my wife about this last night and 
she told me I can't have HER Escort after the several thousands of dollars I 
have invested in repairs, maintainance and storage. My landlord would dure 
like to see it disappear.Maybe I'll give her $5 and a new rocking chair for 
it, and Larry if we get there, stay in front of me so you don't get caught 
in the oil bath. Maybe I'll install a VCR in the license plate well, and 
play a dirty movie for those behind me. See you all in the winner's circle.

MVG

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Fw: After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


> Holy Crap Larry.
> That might even be competitive?  Scary as hell, but competitive.  But 
> don't forget it had to cost less than $500.00.
> So once we get a group organized we should have a meeting at say Mary's 
> Pizza!  Just kidding.  But somewhere.
> I am so Jazzed.  Escort or Spitfire...either way.   Or maybe both?  2 
> teams? Now we are talking club event!!!
> Clif  74 Jensen Healey.
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Larry Gardini
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:27 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Fw: After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
> I can offer up a 1975 Spitfire with a Buick V6 as a project if it needs to
> be a British car.
>
> Larry Gardini
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:32 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: [NOBBC] Fw: After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Gianandrea" <mvg1 at att.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
>
>> Hi Cliff,
>>
>> What a coinkydink. It's not an lbc, but I have a little beater Ford 
>> Escort
>> that has been living outside the back door of my shop for about six 
>> years,
>> and I was thinking of turning into a Lemons car. It's already been beat 
>> up
>> by vandals, and as such, is somewhat ugly, but it runs, and is free,
>> contributing to the concept of a value of $500 or less to qualify. We
>> could put some brit flags, verbage all over it, paint it to look like a
>> british flag, whatever to identify the NOBBC, but what a hoot to actually
>> get some volunteers together and go race. And I would consider it a
>> blessing to NOT sacrifice any british car of any condition. There are
>> plenty of Escorts around, to use up. Thoughts anyone?
>>
>> Michael Gianandrea
>> 64 TR4
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>
>>
>>> Well since you brought it up...Lemons that is.
>>> Is anybody interested in putting together a team and of course a car for
>>> next years 24 Hours Of Lemons?  I think it would be a hoot.  Must be an
>>> LBC around we could pick up for a couple of hundred bucks.  No race
>>> license required.  Just the will and some time.
>>> Clif
>>> 74 Jensen Healey
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Greg Tatarian
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:50 AM
>>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>> Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>>
>>> If you like your motorsports firmly tongue in cheek, this weekend may be
>>> for
>>> you.
>>>
>>> http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/skank2011.aspx
>>>
> http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons
> _oct\
>>> ober/
>>>
> <http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemon
> s_october/>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Greg Tatarian
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Thu Oct 20 14:51:16 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:51:16 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Message delays, dropped emails
Message-ID: <4EA089C4.6060808@gmail.com>

Hello,

I've had a couple of off-list inquiries into why there is a delay of 
from one to many hours between when a message is posted to when it is 
distributed to the email list.

According to comments by Mark Bradakis on the Triumph list a week ago or 
so, there is some undiagnosed issue with the autox.team.net server. Our 
list does not require moderator approval for members, so all delays are 
down to whatever may be happening with the server that hosts this email 
list.

I also see that several emails I sent about the new Yahoo Group 
apparently did not get distributed, which is why the invitation took 
some folks off-guard. Here's what I wrote about it.

Greg Tatarian

> Hi Folks,
>
> Some of you only want notices of drives, and others want to chat, 
> share info or post photos. Ron set up Facebook for those who want the 
> latter, but no new members can join because we don't have 
> administrator access.
>
> I previously set up a Google Group for the club but it was a real PIA. 
> Tom Reier kindly established a new Yahoo Group for the NOBBC, which is 
> much easier to use and has lots of nice features. I have added lots of 
> photos, some links, and have slowly rolled it out to a few members 
> over the last several days. We now have 6 members.
>
> You will continue to get club drive information on this list, but if 
> you'd like more interactivity, photos, a calendar of upcoming club 
> events, etc., and either can't or won't join Facebook, you are invited 
> to join the new NOBBC Yahoo group.
>
> You can join with email addresses from Yahoo, Google (Gmail), 
> Facebook, ATT.net, or pacbell.net. If you don't have one of those 
> email addresses you will need to establish one (Yahoo is easiest, I 
> use Gmail).
>
> Members will receive email invitations. The group is open only to 
> NOBBC members, and is moderated. If you don't want to join, just 
> delete the email, but hope to see you there.
>
> Greg Tatarian 


Join the NOBBC Yahoo Group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/NOBBC/

From wkilch at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct 20 14:53:59 2011
From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (wkilch at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 20:53:59 +0000
Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
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I'm thinking of going Saturday. I can't play saturday and sunday. 

W
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mike Gianandrea" <mvg1 at att.net>
Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:41:17 
To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!

Hey Cliff,

I am probably the one that is more confused, I didn't do my homework before 
shooting my mouth off, but it would still make a great club project, I'm 
sure we could have a lot of fun with it. If anyone else is going out to 
Infineon this weekend, maybe we can meet up and watch and learn.

MVG

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!


> There was a race at Infineon in March, and one this weekend as well.  I 
> plan on going for at least a few hours on Sunday.
> But I am a little confused on the schedule.  Will somebody explain?  It 
> doesn't really look like a 24 hour race.  More like one 7 1/2 hour race on 
> Saturday, and one 8 hour race on Sunday.  Am I missing something?
> Clif
> PS.  There is a great video on the Infineon web page. 
> http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_october/#tabschedule
>
>
> Saturday, 22 October 2011
>
> 7:30am: Gates open
> 9:30am: Mandatory drivers' meeting
> 10:30am-6pm: Race session I
> Sunday, 23 October 2011
>
> 8:15am: Mandatory drivers' meeting
> 9am-5pm: Race session II
> Noon: People's Curse
> 5pm: Checkered flag
> 5:30pm: Awards
> 8:00pm: Gates close
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:51 PM
> To: NOBBC
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
> The rules say, you need three to five buddies with questionable judgment. 
> I demonstrate that quality daily. I'm interested. It looks like we would 
> need to shoot for March though.
>
> Walter
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Mike Gianandrea" <mvg1 at att.net>
> Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:47:10
> To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
> Well alrighty now, we got one piece of enthusiasm. How about some 
> volunteers
> to work and race? The Lemons race is a team concept based on Le Mans type
> racing, so there must be a number of team members to alternate driving
> around the clock besides fixing and prepping a vehicle, so if you work, 
> you
> drive. Can you see yourself going throught the carousel at 60 MPH at 2 AM?
> Come on ladies and germs, this could be fun. Cliff?
>
> Michael Gianandrea    (MVG)
> 64 TR4
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tim " <tsthresh at hotmail.com>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>
>
>> Mike,
>>
>> The Ford Escort was also a LBC, made in Halewood UK (near Liverpool) with
>> rear-wheel drive and a front engine cross-flow  push-rod 1600cc engine(
>> the Kent which was similar to the Pinto). If yours is any way close then
>> we should have a winner!  Forget those 5 liter V-8 lemons- the Escort was
>> a world beating road rallye car in its day.
>>
>> See  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Escort_(Europe)  particularly the
>> latter part about rallyeing!
>>
>> Tim
>> 1958 MGA
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Mike Gianandrea
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:52 AM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>
>> Hi Cliff,
>>
>> What a coinkydink. It's not an lbc, but I have a little beater Ford 
>> Escort
>> that has been living outside the back door of my shop for about six 
>> years,
>> and I was thinking of turning into a Lemons car. It's already been beat 
>> up
>> by vandals, and as such, is somewhat ugly, but it runs, and is free,
>> contributing to the concept of a value of $500 or less to qualify. We
>> could
>> put some brit flags, verbage all over it, paint it to look like a british
>> flag, whatever to identify the NOBBC, but what a hoot to actually get 
>> some
>> volunteers together and go race. And I would consider it a blessing to 
>> NOT
>> sacrifice any british car of any condition. There are plenty of Escorts
>> around, to use up. Thoughts anyone?
>>
>> Michael Gianandrea
>> 64 TR4
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>
>>
>>> Well since you brought it up...Lemons that is.
>>> Is anybody interested in putting together a team and of course a car for
>>> next years 24 Hours Of Lemons?  I think it would be a hoot.  Must be an
>>> LBC around we could pick up for a couple of hundred bucks.  No race
>>> license required.  Just the will and some time.
>>> Clif
>>> 74 Jensen Healey
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Greg Tatarian
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:50 AM
>>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>> Subject: [NOBBC] After Saturday's drive - it's Lemons!
>>>
>>> If you like your motorsports firmly tongue in cheek, this weekend may be
>>> for
>>> you.
>>>
>>> http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/skank2011.aspx
>>> http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_oct\
>>> ober/
>>> <http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/complete_schedule/24_hours_of_lemons_october/>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Greg Tatarian
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NOBBC at autox.team.net
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From dodea495 at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 20 19:05:23 2011
From: dodea495 at hotmail.com (Dennis O'Dea)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 18:05:23 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Message delays, dropped emails
In-Reply-To: <4EA089C4.6060808@gmail.com>
References: <4EA089C4.6060808@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT137-W11C5171C8DA116B2488B09CE80@phx.gbl>

Hey Greg,

Thanks for the update on the mail server, I was wondering why this would take
so long to post.

Dennis

> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:51:16 -0700
> From: gtwincams at gmail.com
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: [NOBBC] Message delays, dropped emails
>
> Hello,
>
> I've had a couple of off-list inquiries into why there is a delay of
> from one to many hours between when a message is posted to when it is
> distributed to the email list.
>
> According to comments by Mark Bradakis on the Triumph list a week ago or
> so, there is some undiagnosed issue with the autox.team.net server. Our
> list does not require moderator approval for members, so all delays are
> down to whatever may be happening with the server that hosts this email
> list.
>
> I also see that several emails I sent about the new Yahoo Group
> apparently did not get distributed, which is why the invitation took
> some folks off-guard. Here's what I wrote about it.
>
> Greg Tatarian
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > Some of you only want notices of drives, and others want to chat,
> > share info or post photos. Ron set up Facebook for those who want the
> > latter, but no new members can join because we don't have
> > administrator access.
> >
> > I previously set up a Google Group for the club but it was a real PIA.
> > Tom Reier kindly established a new Yahoo Group for the NOBBC, which is
> > much easier to use and has lots of nice features. I have added lots of
> > photos, some links, and have slowly rolled it out to a few members
> > over the last several days. We now have 6 members.
> >
> > You will continue to get club drive information on this list, but if
> > you'd like more interactivity, photos, a calendar of upcoming club
> > events, etc., and either can't or won't join Facebook, you are invited
> > to join the new NOBBC Yahoo group.
> >
> > You can join with email addresses from Yahoo, Google (Gmail),
> > Facebook, ATT.net, or pacbell.net. If you don't have one of those
> > email addresses you will need to establish one (Yahoo is easiest, I
> > use Gmail).
> >
> > Members will receive email invitations. The group is open only to
> > NOBBC members, and is moderated. If you don't want to join, just
> > delete the email, but hope to see you there.
> >
> > Greg Tatarian
>
>
> Join the NOBBC Yahoo Group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/NOBBC/
> _______________________________________________
> NOBBC at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $11.47
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From bluesson at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 21 11:39:07 2011
From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 10:39:07 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Message delays, dropped emails
In-Reply-To: <SNT137-W11C5171C8DA116B2488B09CE80@phx.gbl>
References: <4EA089C4.6060808@gmail.com>,
	<SNT137-W11C5171C8DA116B2488B09CE80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU164-W23C472B2BA11267F4966F7D0E80@phx.gbl>

 Group,
      You folks need to complete the switch to yahoogroups.com  via Greg's
invites. Unless the yahoo censors tag something as spam, or it's a message
from someone who is moderated, you'll find that your posts FLY up on the board
in low single digit MINUTES....usually 1-2, 3 tops.
       As someone who has successfully moderated the Grinnall Scorpion
worldwide group via yahoogroups.com for nearly ten years now, I am confident
you folks will appreciate the yahoogroups.com setup.
       Another cool feature of it is that you have FILES/PHOTOS/LINKS sections
where you can post manual pages as files, links to sites the group will find
useful, plus in the photos section you can create folders for events, owners
vehicles, and more.
       So when that invite comes around, get on board! I believe you'll like
it.
                                 Tom R

> From: dodea495 at hotmail.com
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 18:05:23 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Message delays, dropped emails
>
> Hey Greg,
>
> Thanks for the update on the mail server, I was wondering why this would
take
> so long to post.
>
> Dennis
>
> > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:51:16 -0700
> > From: gtwincams at gmail.com
> > To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [NOBBC] Message delays, dropped emails
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I've had a couple of off-list inquiries into why there is a delay of
> > from one to many hours between when a message is posted to when it is
> > distributed to the email list.
> >
> > According to comments by Mark Bradakis on the Triumph list a week ago or
> > so, there is some undiagnosed issue with the autox.team.net server. Our
> > list does not require moderator approval for members, so all delays are
> > down to whatever may be happening with the server that hosts this email
> > list.
> >
> > I also see that several emails I sent about the new Yahoo Group
> > apparently did not get distributed, which is why the invitation took
> > some folks off-guard. Here's what I wrote about it.
> >
> > Greg Tatarian
> >
> > > Hi Folks,
> > >
> > > Some of you only want notices of drives, and others want to chat,
> > > share info or post photos. Ron set up Facebook for those who want the
> > > latter, but no new members can join because we don't have
> > > administrator access.
> > >
> > > I previously set up a Google Group for the club but it was a real PIA.
> > > Tom Reier kindly established a new Yahoo Group for the NOBBC, which is
> > > much easier to use and has lots of nice features. I have added lots of
> > > photos, some links, and have slowly rolled it out to a few members
> > > over the last several days. We now have 6 members.
> > >
> > > You will continue to get club drive information on this list, but if
> > > you'd like more interactivity, photos, a calendar of upcoming club
> > > events, etc., and either can't or won't join Facebook, you are invited
> > > to join the new NOBBC Yahoo group.
> > >
> > > You can join with email addresses from Yahoo, Google (Gmail),
> > > Facebook, ATT.net, or pacbell.net. If you don't have one of those
> > > email addresses you will need to establish one (Yahoo is easiest, I
> > > use Gmail).
> > >
> > > Members will receive email invitations. The group is open only to
> > > NOBBC members, and is moderated. If you don't want to join, just
> > > delete the email, but hope to see you there.
> > >
> > > Greg Tatarian
> >
> >
> > Join the NOBBC Yahoo Group at:
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/NOBBC/
> > _______________________________________________
> > NOBBC at autox.team.net
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Suggested annual donation  $11.47
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> > Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dodea495 at hotmail.com
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From norman.weinfeld at gmail.com  Fri Oct 21 13:31:16 2011
From: norman.weinfeld at gmail.com (Norman S. Weinfeld)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:31:16 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Message delays, dropped emails
In-Reply-To: <BLU164-W23C472B2BA11267F4966F7D0E80@phx.gbl>
References: <4EA089C4.6060808@gmail.com>
	<SNT137-W11C5171C8DA116B2488B09CE80@phx.gbl>
	<BLU164-W23C472B2BA11267F4966F7D0E80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CABTU0xCQo5OEwrusPDOemh=NKBtk9koL7A_JE_Akoy88-7RwPw@mail.gmail.com>

I would also heartily endorse going with Yahoo. In addition to all the other
advantages enumerated below, there is also the ability to select a "digest'
option which substitutes one daily compendium of messages rather than the
steady stream of individual ones as is required now. Note that this is via
e-mail only. It is always also possible to check the cloud version on-line
at any time to get real-time updates on any matter that is individually
pressing.

Norm Weinfeld
San Francisco
'55 XK140 DHC

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Tom Reier <bluesson at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Group,
>      You folks need to complete the switch to yahoogroups.com  via Greg's
> invites. Unless the yahoo censors tag something as spam, or it's a message
> from someone who is moderated, you'll find that your posts FLY up on the
> board
> in low single digit MINUTES....usually 1-2, 3 tops.
>       As someone who has successfully moderated the Grinnall Scorpion
> worldwide group via yahoogroups.com for nearly ten years now, I am
> confident
> you folks will appreciate the yahoogroups.com setup.
>       Another cool feature of it is that you have FILES/PHOTOS/LINKS
> sections
> where you can post manual pages as files, links to sites the group will
> find
> useful, plus in the photos section you can create folders for events,
> owners
> vehicles, and more.
>       So when that invite comes around, get on board! I believe you'll like
> it.
>                                 Tom R
>
> > From: dodea495 at hotmail.com
> > To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 18:05:23 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Message delays, dropped emails
> >
> > Hey Greg,
> >
> > Thanks for the update on the mail server, I was wondering why this would
> take
> > so long to post.
> >
> > Dennis
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:51:16 -0700
> > > From: gtwincams at gmail.com
> > > To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> > > Subject: [NOBBC] Message delays, dropped emails
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I've had a couple of off-list inquiries into why there is a delay of
> > > from one to many hours between when a message is posted to when it is
> > > distributed to the email list.
> > >
> > > According to comments by Mark Bradakis on the Triumph list a week ago
> or
> > > so, there is some undiagnosed issue with the autox.team.net server.
> Our
> > > list does not require moderator approval for members, so all delays are
> > > down to whatever may be happening with the server that hosts this email
> > > list.
> > >
> > > I also see that several emails I sent about the new Yahoo Group
> > > apparently did not get distributed, which is why the invitation took
> > > some folks off-guard. Here's what I wrote about it.
> > >
> > > Greg Tatarian
> > >
> > > > Hi Folks,
> > > >
> > > > Some of you only want notices of drives, and others want to chat,
> > > > share info or post photos. Ron set up Facebook for those who want the
> > > > latter, but no new members can join because we don't have
> > > > administrator access.
> > > >
> > > > I previously set up a Google Group for the club but it was a real
> PIA.
> > > > Tom Reier kindly established a new Yahoo Group for the NOBBC, which
> is
> > > > much easier to use and has lots of nice features. I have added lots
> of
> > > > photos, some links, and have slowly rolled it out to a few members
> > > > over the last several days. We now have 6 members.
> > > >
> > > > You will continue to get club drive information on this list, but if
> > > > you'd like more interactivity, photos, a calendar of upcoming club
> > > > events, etc., and either can't or won't join Facebook, you are
> invited
> > > > to join the new NOBBC Yahoo group.
> > > >
> > > > You can join with email addresses from Yahoo, Google (Gmail),
> > > > Facebook, ATT.net, or pacbell.net. If you don't have one of those
> > > > email addresses you will need to establish one (Yahoo is easiest, I
> > > > use Gmail).
> > > >
> > > > Members will receive email invitations. The group is open only to
> > > > NOBBC members, and is moderated. If you don't want to join, just
> > > > delete the email, but hope to see you there.
> > > >
> > > > Greg Tatarian
> > >
> > >
> > > Join the NOBBC Yahoo Group at:
> > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/NOBBC/
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > NOBBC at autox.team.net
> > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > > Suggested annual donation  $11.47
> > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> > > Unsubscribe/Manage:
> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dodea495 at hotmail.com
> > _______________________________________________
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From jamesechristian at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 21 18:18:32 2011
From: jamesechristian at yahoo.com (Jim Christian)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 17:18:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NOBBC] Sell your cars/parts on our Yahoo Group site
In-Reply-To: <4EA034E3.7000602@gmail.com>
References: <4EA034E3.7000602@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1319242712.32778.YahooMailNeo@web120527.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Greg,
Please re-send the how-to to connect to the new Yahoo site... I deleted
your prior... Sorry.


________________________________
From: Greg Tatarian
<gtwincams at gmail.com>
To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 7:49 AM
Subject: [NOBBC] Sell your cars/parts
on our Yahoo Group site

If you have cars or parts for sale, you can offer
them to members on our new Yahoo Group site (if you have signed up). Use the
"Group Labs (Beta) - Applications" option, then select "For Sale" and list
your item(s).

Also, if the discussions are getting serious about entering one
or more teams for 24 Hours of Lemons, the Yahoo Group would be the perfect
venue for planning, scheduling and progress reports/photos.

Cheers,

Greg
Tatarian
_______________________________________________
NOBBC at autox.team.net
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From drmartyrayman at gmail.com  Fri Oct 21 19:33:31 2011
From: drmartyrayman at gmail.com (Martin Sinai Rayman)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:33:31 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Message delays, dropped emails
In-Reply-To: <4EA089C4.6060808@gmail.com>
References: <4EA089C4.6060808@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL99TMpkSMYK4R4NtLsgPhFXjrGF6xYtKrzgb9LgjTrN1O8o4A@mail.gmail.com>

I seem to have lost the original e mail that says how to join the yahoo
group
Please resend.
Thanks,
Marty
'53 MG TD.'

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I've had a couple of off-list inquiries into why there is a delay of from
> one to many hours between when a message is posted to when it is distributed
> to the email list.
>
> According to comments by Mark Bradakis on the Triumph list a week ago or
> so, there is some undiagnosed issue with the autox.team.net server. Our
> list does not require moderator approval for members, so all delays are down
> to whatever may be happening with the server that hosts this email list.
>
> I also see that several emails I sent about the new Yahoo Group apparently
> did not get distributed, which is why the invitation took some folks
> off-guard. Here's what I wrote about it.
>
> Greg Tatarian
>
>  Hi Folks,
>>
>> Some of you only want notices of drives, and others want to chat, share
>> info or post photos. Ron set up Facebook for those who want the latter, but
>> no new members can join because we don't have administrator access.
>>
>> I previously set up a Google Group for the club but it was a real PIA. Tom
>> Reier kindly established a new Yahoo Group for the NOBBC, which is much
>> easier to use and has lots of nice features. I have added lots of photos,
>> some links, and have slowly rolled it out to a few members over the last
>> several days. We now have 6 members.
>>
>> You will continue to get club drive information on this list, but if you'd
>> like more interactivity, photos, a calendar of upcoming club events, etc.,
>> and either can't or won't join Facebook, you are invited to join the new
>> NOBBC Yahoo group.
>>
>> You can join with email addresses from Yahoo, Google (Gmail), Facebook,
>> ATT.net, or pacbell.net. If you don't have one of those email addresses
>> you will need to establish one (Yahoo is easiest, I use Gmail).
>>
>> Members will receive email invitations. The group is open only to NOBBC
>> members, and is moderated. If you don't want to join, just delete the email,
>> but hope to see you there.
>>
>> Greg Tatarian
>>
>
>
> Join the NOBBC Yahoo Group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/**group/NOBBC/<http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/NOBBC/>
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From thenobbc at gmail.com  Fri Oct 21 21:15:53 2011
From: thenobbc at gmail.com (NOBBC)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:15:53 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Sell your cars/parts on our Yahoo Group site
In-Reply-To: <1319242712.32778.YahooMailNeo@web120527.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <4EA034E3.7000602@gmail.com>
	<1319242712.32778.YahooMailNeo@web120527.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4EA23569.6020501@gmail.com>

Hi Jim,
I sent you an invitation.
Cheers,
Greg

On 10/21/2011 5:18 PM, Jim Christian wrote:
> Greg,
> Please re-send the how-to to connect to the new Yahoo site... I deleted
> your prior... Sorry.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Greg Tatarian
> <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 7:49 AM
> Subject: [NOBBC] Sell your cars/parts
> on our Yahoo Group site
>
> If you have cars or parts for sale, you can offer
> them to members on our new Yahoo Group site (if you have signed up). Use the
> "Group Labs (Beta) - Applications" option, then select "For Sale" and list
> your item(s).
>
> Also, if the discussions are getting serious about entering one
> or more teams for 24 Hours of Lemons, the Yahoo Group would be the perfect
> venue for planning, scheduling and progress reports/photos.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Greg
> Tatarian
> _______________________________________________
> NOBBC at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $11.47
> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jamesechristian at yahoo.com
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From tonykorman at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct 21 21:59:30 2011
From: tonykorman at sbcglobal.net (Tony Korman)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:59:30 -0500
Subject: [NOBBC] Sell your cars/parts on our Yahoo Group site
In-Reply-To: <1319242712.32778.YahooMailNeo@web120527.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <4EA034E3.7000602@gmail.com>
	<1319242712.32778.YahooMailNeo@web120527.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AF2EA842-AC8F-472F-9872-D3547AB35472@sbcglobal.net>

Passing this email to a gentleman I met in Austin as members of the Tx Hill
Country Triumph Club. Great idea.
All the best
Tony Korman
Past TR 6 owner with tears
Hope y'all can connect

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 21, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Jim Christian <jamesechristian at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Greg,
> Please re-send the how-to to connect to the new Yahoo site... I deleted
> your prior... Sorry.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Greg Tatarian
> <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 7:49 AM
> Subject: [NOBBC] Sell your cars/parts
> on our Yahoo Group site
>
> If you have cars or parts for sale, you can offer
> them to members on our new Yahoo Group site (if you have signed up). Use
the
> "Group Labs (Beta) - Applications" option, then select "For Sale" and list
> your item(s).
>
> Also, if the discussions are getting serious about entering one
> or more teams for 24 Hours of Lemons, the Yahoo Group would be the perfect
> venue for planning, scheduling and progress reports/photos.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Greg
> Tatarian
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Fri Oct 21 22:20:13 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:20:13 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Message delays, dropped emails
In-Reply-To: <CAL99TMpkSMYK4R4NtLsgPhFXjrGF6xYtKrzgb9LgjTrN1O8o4A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4EA089C4.6060808@gmail.com>
	<CAL99TMpkSMYK4R4NtLsgPhFXjrGF6xYtKrzgb9LgjTrN1O8o4A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <108BCD36A90449EBB2BE26DC7F6F1704@williamsonPC>

Hi Marty.
I just joined a couple of minutes ago.  It's pretty easy.
If you don't have an account you can still get there.  Just go to 
www.yahoo.com.  You will find Yahoo Groups at the bottom of the page.
Go to Yahoo Groups and search for NOBBC.
You will see a photo of Ron driving his MG.  Pretty cool.
Just follow the directions.  You will have to establish a Yahoo account.  I 
already had one so was able to skip that process.
Hope that works...did for me.
Clif
74 Jensen Healey


-----Original Message----- 
From: Martin Sinai Rayman
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 6:33 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Message delays, dropped emails

I seem to have lost the original e mail that says how to join the yahoo
group
Please resend.
Thanks,
Marty
'53 MG TD.'

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I've had a couple of off-list inquiries into why there is a delay of from
> one to many hours between when a message is posted to when it is 
> distributed
> to the email list.
>
> According to comments by Mark Bradakis on the Triumph list a week ago or
> so, there is some undiagnosed issue with the autox.team.net server. Our
> list does not require moderator approval for members, so all delays are 
> down
> to whatever may be happening with the server that hosts this email list.
>
> I also see that several emails I sent about the new Yahoo Group apparently
> did not get distributed, which is why the invitation took some folks
> off-guard. Here's what I wrote about it.
>
> Greg Tatarian
>
>  Hi Folks,
>>
>> Some of you only want notices of drives, and others want to chat, share
>> info or post photos. Ron set up Facebook for those who want the latter, 
>> but
>> no new members can join because we don't have administrator access.
>>
>> I previously set up a Google Group for the club but it was a real PIA. 
>> Tom
>> Reier kindly established a new Yahoo Group for the NOBBC, which is much
>> easier to use and has lots of nice features. I have added lots of photos,
>> some links, and have slowly rolled it out to a few members over the last
>> several days. We now have 6 members.
>>
>> You will continue to get club drive information on this list, but if 
>> you'd
>> like more interactivity, photos, a calendar of upcoming club events, 
>> etc.,
>> and either can't or won't join Facebook, you are invited to join the new
>> NOBBC Yahoo group.
>>
>> You can join with email addresses from Yahoo, Google (Gmail), Facebook,
>> ATT.net, or pacbell.net. If you don't have one of those email addresses
>> you will need to establish one (Yahoo is easiest, I use Gmail).
>>
>> Members will receive email invitations. The group is open only to NOBBC
>> members, and is moderated. If you don't want to join, just delete the 
>> email,
>> but hope to see you there.
>>
>> Greg Tatarian
>>
>
>
> Join the NOBBC Yahoo Group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/**group/NOBBC/<http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/NOBBC/>
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From thenobbc at gmail.com  Sat Oct 22 07:59:13 2011
From: thenobbc at gmail.com (NOBBC)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 06:59:13 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Message delays, dropped emails
In-Reply-To: <CAL99TMpkSMYK4R4NtLsgPhFXjrGF6xYtKrzgb9LgjTrN1O8o4A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4EA089C4.6060808@gmail.com>
	<CAL99TMpkSMYK4R4NtLsgPhFXjrGF6xYtKrzgb9LgjTrN1O8o4A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4EA2CC31.2040106@gmail.com>

Hi Marty,

Go here:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/nobbc/

Click on the blue button - Join This Group

Then follow instructions.

You need a Yahoo, Gmail, Facebook, ATT.net or pacbell.net email account. 
If you have none, get a Yahoo email account.

Cheers,
Greg Tatarian

From thenobbc at gmail.com  Sat Oct 22 08:16:23 2011
From: thenobbc at gmail.com (NOBBC)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 07:16:23 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] New activity on Yahoo Group
Message-ID: <4EA2D037.8040005@gmail.com>

Hi Folks,

Good to see more people signing up. We have a way to go, but here's the 
stats so far:


        Activity within 7 days:

25 New Members <http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/NOBBC/members?o=6> - 
15 New Links <http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/NOBBC/links> - 17 New 
Messages <http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/NOBBC/messages?o=1> - 55 
New Photos <http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/NOBBC/spnew> - 1 New 
File <http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/NOBBC/files>

I've actually posted about 110 photos, a map file and more, so check it 
out.

If you didn't get an email invitation through Yahoo, send me a request.

Greg Tatarian

From jamesechristian at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 22 09:23:59 2011
From: jamesechristian at yahoo.com (jamesechristian at yahoo.com)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 15:23:59 +0000
Subject: [NOBBC] Sell your cars/parts on our Yahoo Group site
In-Reply-To: <4EA23569.6020501@gmail.com>
References: <4EA034E3.7000602@gmail.com>
	<1319242712.32778.YahooMailNeo@web120527.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<4EA23569.6020501@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.7.1319297044.2936.nobbc@autox.team.net>

I'm in.  Thanks
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: NOBBC <thenobbc at gmail.com>
Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:15:53 
To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Sell your cars/parts on our Yahoo Group site

Hi Jim,
I sent you an invitation.
Cheers,
Greg

On 10/21/2011 5:18 PM, Jim Christian wrote:
> Greg,
> Please re-send the how-to to connect to the new Yahoo site... I deleted
> your prior... Sorry.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Greg Tatarian
> <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 7:49 AM
> Subject: [NOBBC] Sell your cars/parts
> on our Yahoo Group site
>
> If you have cars or parts for sale, you can offer
> them to members on our new Yahoo Group site (if you have signed up). Use the
> "Group Labs (Beta) - Applications" option, then select "For Sale" and list
> your item(s).
>
> Also, if the discussions are getting serious about entering one
> or more teams for 24 Hours of Lemons, the Yahoo Group would be the perfect
> venue for planning, scheduling and progress reports/photos.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Greg
> Tatarian
> _______________________________________________
> NOBBC at autox.team.net
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From mvg1 at att.net  Sat Oct 22 12:02:45 2011
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:02:45 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] The Yahoo account
Message-ID: <66F0BD4078EE4BE5A43611C7649C4E09@mike>

This new Yahoo Caccount is really cool, so much stuff there, love seeing the
photo catalogs. But I'm so sure this is such a good thing , shit I spend so
much time there, I can't get any work done. This could be damaging to my
career. (LOL) Great site!

Michael Gianandrea
64 TR4

From bluesson at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 22 16:27:55 2011
From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 15:27:55 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Sell your cars/parts on our Yahoo Group site
In-Reply-To: <1319242712.32778.YahooMailNeo@web120527.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <4EA034E3.7000602@gmail.com>,
	<1319242712.32778.YahooMailNeo@web120527.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU164-W130DD11D46AE573A1C3EB9D0E90@phx.gbl>

To all:
    You don't have to wait for an invite. Email to
  NOBBC-SUBSCRIBE at Yahoogroups.com (caps were mine for emphasis)
    Watch for a response in your junk mail. Follow the instructions; create an
I.D. (name) and password. Watch for followup emails.
    Remember to set how you want to receive your email. You can go in and
change that setting anytime if you want to receive mail differently.
    Glad to see the response to the new group site.

               all the best, Tom R

> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 17:18:32 -0700
> From: jamesechristian at yahoo.com
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Sell your cars/parts on our Yahoo Group site
>
> Greg,
> Please re-send the how-to to connect to the new Yahoo site... I deleted
> your prior... Sorry.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Greg Tatarian
> <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 7:49 AM
> Subject: [NOBBC] Sell your cars/parts
> on our Yahoo Group site
>
> If you have cars or parts for sale, you can offer
> them to members on our new Yahoo Group site (if you have signed up). Use
the
> "Group Labs (Beta) - Applications" option, then select "For Sale" and list
> your item(s).
>
> Also, if the discussions are getting serious about entering one
> or more teams for 24 Hours of Lemons, the Yahoo Group would be the perfect
> venue for planning, scheduling and progress reports/photos.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Greg
> Tatarian
> _______________________________________________
> NOBBC at autox.team.net
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From thenobbc at gmail.com  Sat Oct 22 17:43:10 2011
From: thenobbc at gmail.com (NOBBC)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:43:10 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] The Yahoo account
In-Reply-To: <66F0BD4078EE4BE5A43611C7649C4E09@mike>
References: <66F0BD4078EE4BE5A43611C7649C4E09@mike>
Message-ID: <4EA3550E.5000302@gmail.com>

On 10/22/2011 11:02 AM, Mike Gianandrea wrote:
> This new Yahoo Caccount is really cool, so much stuff there, love seeing the
> photo catalogs. But I'm so sure this is such a good thing , shit I spend so
> much time there, I can't get any work done. This could be damaging to my
> career. (LOL) Great site!
>
> Michael Gianandrea
> 64 TR4
> _______________________________________________
> NOBBC at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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>
Great to hear, Mike - thank you!
Greg

From jkenner at tamcab.com  Sat Oct 22 18:20:05 2011
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (JOHN KENNER)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 17:20:05 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] TODAYS RIDE
Message-ID: <000001cc9119$8472fcc0$8d58f640$@TAMCAB.COM>

Today Deano took us up Pine Flat Road almost to the top.

 

This is a road that goes to the Geysers in East Alexander Valley. The view
from up there is astounding.

 

It turns out that Levi Leipheimer trains there twice a week when he's home.

It climbs 3150 feet in 11.3 miles and is very steep. We saw plenty of (
crazy? young?) bicycles on the road.

Here is a link to a video of Levi descending Pine Flat Road. 

http://vimeo.com/8939902

 

I'm not sure but I think he can take it faster that I could in my MINI.

 

After going up the road the 6 of us in 5 cars went to lunch at Catelli's in
Geyserville and

had a very pleasant time.

 

Lesson for today: you never know what's going to happen at a ride

until everyone shows up and talks it over.

 

 

Next ride is on November 19th unless someone wants to set one up before
that.

 

Happy Trails,

 

P.S.  Charlie got a MINI S Clubman. Smart man that Charlie!

 

 

JOHN KENNER

 

510 231 6803 OFFICE

415 806 2457 CELL

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From markdarley at mac.com  Sun Oct 23 16:38:23 2011
From: markdarley at mac.com (MARK DARLEY)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:38:23 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] TODAYS RIDE
In-Reply-To: <000001cc9119$8472fcc0$8d58f640$@TAMCAB.COM>
References: <000001cc9119$8472fcc0$8d58f640$@TAMCAB.COM>
Message-ID: <42B84C42-B7CC-4E77-AC2C-49D831978C03@mac.com>

I say it was a good thing Levi was not on the way down when you were on the way up!

How was the LeMons.

Mark

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 22, 2011, at 5:20 PM, JOHN KENNER <jkenner at tamcab.com> wrote:

> Today Deano took us up Pine Flat Road almost to the top.
> 
> 
> 
> This is a road that goes to the Geysers in East Alexander Valley. The view
> from up there is astounding.
> 
> 
> 
> It turns out that Levi Leipheimer trains there twice a week when he's home.
> 
> It climbs 3150 feet in 11.3 miles and is very steep. We saw plenty of (
> crazy? young?) bicycles on the road.
> 
> Here is a link to a video of Levi descending Pine Flat Road. 
> 
> http://vimeo.com/8939902good 
> 
> 
> 
> I'm not sure but I think he can take it faster that I could in my MINI.
> 
> 
> 
> After going up the road the 6 of us in 5 cars went to lunch at Catelli's in
> Geyserville and
> 
> had a very pleasant time.
> 
> 
> 
> Lesson for today: you never know what's going to happen at a ride
> 
> until everyone shows up and talks it over.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Next ride is on November 19th unless someone wants to set one up before
> that.
> 
> 
> 
> Happy Trails,
> 
> 
> 
> P.S.  Charlie got a MINI S Clubman. Smart man that Charlie!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> JOHN KENNER
> 
> 
> 
> 510 231 6803 OFFICE
> 
> 415 806 2457 CELL
> 
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png]
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Mon Oct 24 16:44:07 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:44:07 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
Message-ID: <4EA5EA37.1000309@gmail.com>

Hi,

It's been more of a struggle than I thought it would take to get the web 
site updated and the Facebook account deleted (the Yahoo Group takes its 
place, and much better). It's taking too much time and causing too much 
friction between myself and a few folks here, so I'm going to leave the 
status of the web site to Dean, who has the account, and Sheryl, who 
agreed to manage the site and needs a new password. Tcherek, as I have 
said many times before, has been very generous with her time and energy 
in this role, but is ready to step down.

The web site is several years out of date, so you members have to ask if 
it's worth paying for, or if you want to keep it up to date.

I'm happy to keep running the membership list and the new Yahoo Group, 
and encourage more of you to join.

Still don't know what to do about the Facebook account, but I'll ask 
Candy again if she can be of assistance.

Thanks,

Greg Tatarian

From gtwincams at gmail.com  Mon Oct 24 17:09:30 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:09:30 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] POLL - let's set a date for lunch or dinner
Message-ID: <4EA5F02A.9030805@gmail.com>

Hi,

Trying again to get a date to sit down at Mary's Pizza, where we have a 
$150 gift certificate, as a show of appreciation from Ron's widow, Candy.

If you don't like pizza, go online and check out their menu - plenty of 
alternatives.

How about Saturday lunch or dinner, November 5?

Second option - Sunday lunch, November 6?

Centralized locations might be Rohnert Park, West or East Santa Rosa, or 
Petaluma. http://www.maryspizzashack.com/locations.html

Thanks,

Greg Tatarian

From cuthroat at live.com  Mon Oct 24 19:58:36 2011
From: cuthroat at live.com (Cuthroat - Mel Cohen)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:58:36 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
In-Reply-To: <4EA5EA37.1000309@gmail.com>
References: <4EA5EA37.1000309@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT139-W5463AA6CDBC91436FA399BA1EC0@phx.gbl>

I could not find the group in Yahoo Groups. I belong to several Yahoo Groups,
so it should be hard for me to do.
Mel Cohen95 Morgan Plus 8

> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:44:07 -0700
> From: gtwincams at gmail.com
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
>
> Hi,
>
> It's been more of a struggle than I thought it would take to get the web
> site updated and the Facebook account deleted (the Yahoo Group takes its
> place, and much better). It's taking too much time and causing too much
> friction between myself and a few folks here, so I'm going to leave the
> status of the web site to Dean, who has the account, and Sheryl, who
> agreed to manage the site and needs a new password. Tcherek, as I have
> said many times before, has been very generous with her time and energy
> in this role, but is ready to step down.
>
> The web site is several years out of date, so you members have to ask if
> it's worth paying for, or if you want to keep it up to date.
>
> I'm happy to keep running the membership list and the new Yahoo Group,
> and encourage more of you to join.
>
> Still don't know what to do about the Facebook account, but I'll ask
> Candy again if she can be of assistance.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg Tatarian
> _______________________________________________
> NOBBC at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From wkilch at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct 24 21:49:13 2011
From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (Walter & Gwen Kilchherr)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:49:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
In-Reply-To: <4EA5EA37.1000309@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1319514553.71108.YahooMailClassic@web81708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi
It seems to me that one of our purposes is to encourage the driving of these
little British cars. I think the web site could help LBC enthusiasts hook up
with the club. I don't know that the Yahoo group "thing" can serve this
purpose. If that is the case I would happily contribute to the web site
maintenance fund since I know nothing about maintaining web sites. Also, when
Maria prints up the NOBBC cards, wouldn't it be nice to have our web address
on them?

My two cents
Walter

--- On Mon, 10/24/11, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, October 24, 2011, 3:44 PM

Hi,

It's been more of a struggle than I thought it would take to get the web site
updated and the Facebook account deleted (the Yahoo Group takes its place, and
much better). It's taking too much time and causing too much friction between
myself and a few folks here, so I'm going to leave the status of the web site
to Dean, who has the account, and Sheryl, who agreed to manage the site and
needs a new password. Tcherek, as I have said many times before, has been very
generous with her time and energy in this role, but is ready to step down.

The web site is several years out of date, so you members have to ask if it's
worth paying for, or if you want to keep it up to date.

I'm happy to keep running the membership list and the new Yahoo Group, and
encourage more of you to join.

Still don't know what to do about the Facebook account, but I'll ask Candy
again if she can be of assistance.

Thanks,

Greg Tatarian
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From tsthresh at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 24 23:14:32 2011
From: tsthresh at hotmail.com (Tim )
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:14:32 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] POLL - let's set a date for lunch or dinner
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Saturday lunch would be the only alternative for me.  Of course SR East is 2 
miles away so no chance for a good run over Crane Canyon Rd to Rohnert Park- 
so you know my choice is RP!

Tim
1958 MGA

-----Original Message----- 
From: Greg Tatarian
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 4:09 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [NOBBC] POLL - let's set a date for lunch or dinner

Hi,

Trying again to get a date to sit down at Mary's Pizza, where we have a
$150 gift certificate, as a show of appreciation from Ron's widow, Candy.

If you don't like pizza, go online and check out their menu - plenty of
alternatives.

How about Saturday lunch or dinner, November 5?

Second option - Sunday lunch, November 6?

Centralized locations might be Rohnert Park, West or East Santa Rosa, or
Petaluma. http://www.maryspizzashack.com/locations.html

Thanks,

Greg Tatarian
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From dan at drummondlaw.com  Tue Oct 25 07:33:51 2011
From: dan at drummondlaw.com (Daniel Drummond)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 06:33:51 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] POLL - let's set a date for lunch or dinner
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I vote for Saturday in Rohnert Park.  Then I'll pick Professor Plum in the library with a pipe wrench.  Actually either day and any location works for me.  Thanks for putting this together.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 4:10 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [NOBBC] POLL - let's set a date for lunch or dinner

Hi,

Trying again to get a date to sit down at Mary's Pizza, where we have a
$150 gift certificate, as a show of appreciation from Ron's widow, Candy.

If you don't like pizza, go online and check out their menu - plenty of alternatives.

How about Saturday lunch or dinner, November 5?

Second option - Sunday lunch, November 6?

Centralized locations might be Rohnert Park, West or East Santa Rosa, or Petaluma. http://www.maryspizzashack.com/locations.html

Thanks,

Greg Tatarian
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From mvg1 at att.net  Tue Oct 25 10:26:52 2011
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:26:52 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
References: <1319514553.71108.YahooMailClassic@web81708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D5B34132C55247B4B3DF39000680DFAF@mike>

I'm with Walt on the website, I think it's worthwhile and I'm willing to 
contribute. Also, I'm good with lunch Saturday in Rohnert Park.

Michael Gianandrea

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Walter & Gwen Kilchherr" <wkilch at sbcglobal.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?


> Hi
> It seems to me that one of our purposes is to encourage the driving of 
> these
> little British cars. I think the web site could help LBC enthusiasts hook 
> up
> with the club. I don't know that the Yahoo group "thing" can serve this
> purpose. If that is the case I would happily contribute to the web site
> maintenance fund since I know nothing about maintaining web sites. Also, 
> when
> Maria prints up the NOBBC cards, wouldn't it be nice to have our web 
> address
> on them?
>
> My two cents
> Walter
>
> --- On Mon, 10/24/11, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, October 24, 2011, 3:44 PM
>
> Hi,
>
> It's been more of a struggle than I thought it would take to get the web 
> site
> updated and the Facebook account deleted (the Yahoo Group takes its place, 
> and
> much better). It's taking too much time and causing too much friction 
> between
> myself and a few folks here, so I'm going to leave the status of the web 
> site
> to Dean, who has the account, and Sheryl, who agreed to manage the site 
> and
> needs a new password. Tcherek, as I have said many times before, has been 
> very
> generous with her time and energy in this role, but is ready to step down.
>
> The web site is several years out of date, so you members have to ask if 
> it's
> worth paying for, or if you want to keep it up to date.
>
> I'm happy to keep running the membership list and the new Yahoo Group, and
> encourage more of you to join.
>
> Still don't know what to do about the Facebook account, but I'll ask Candy
> again if she can be of assistance.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg Tatarian
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Tue Oct 25 10:37:38 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:37:38 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
In-Reply-To: <SNT139-W5463AA6CDBC91436FA399BA1EC0@phx.gbl>
References: <4EA5EA37.1000309@gmail.com>
	<SNT139-W5463AA6CDBC91436FA399BA1EC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <3DCEA0DD15624347B2579124D0D23360@williamsonPC>

search using all caps  NOBBC

-----Original Message----- 
From: Cuthroat - Mel Cohen
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 6:58 PM
To: Mel Cohen
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?

I could not find the group in Yahoo Groups. I belong to several Yahoo 
Groups,
so it should be hard for me to do.
Mel Cohen95 Morgan Plus 8

> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:44:07 -0700
> From: gtwincams at gmail.com
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
>
> Hi,
>
> It's been more of a struggle than I thought it would take to get the web
> site updated and the Facebook account deleted (the Yahoo Group takes its
> place, and much better). It's taking too much time and causing too much
> friction between myself and a few folks here, so I'm going to leave the
> status of the web site to Dean, who has the account, and Sheryl, who
> agreed to manage the site and needs a new password. Tcherek, as I have
> said many times before, has been very generous with her time and energy
> in this role, but is ready to step down.
>
> The web site is several years out of date, so you members have to ask if
> it's worth paying for, or if you want to keep it up to date.
>
> I'm happy to keep running the membership list and the new Yahoo Group,
> and encourage more of you to join.
>
> Still don't know what to do about the Facebook account, but I'll ask
> Candy again if she can be of assistance.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg Tatarian
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Tue Oct 25 10:59:55 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:59:55 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
In-Reply-To: <1319514553.71108.YahooMailClassic@web81708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1319514553.71108.YahooMailClassic@web81708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4EA6EB0B.2050609@gmail.com>

Hi Walter,

YES - I like having a web site. I agree that the Yahoo Group isn't going 
to get the attention of the public or interested future members as 
readily as a real web site. I also vote to keep the web site, but having 
created and maintained web sites for our business for 20 years, and 
having been an early user of the Internet, nothing is less impressive to 
me than an out-of-date web site. Godday.com is our current web host, and 
the cost is $6.99 per month plus about $10 a year for the domain name. 
It's cheap, but if you want to spend that money, don't you want the web 
site to be current?

If you look carefully at the web site, you'll see that many sections of 
it are 5-6 years out of date and it needs to be updated regularly. 
Again, I am not casting blame at /anyone,/ just stating reality. We can 
streamline it significantly because there are a lot of outdated links 
and unnecessary stuff currently on the web site. I previously sent 
Tcherek and Sheryl a list of all of the corrections, updates and 
deletions the site needs to bring it up to date.

I no longer want to keep working on updating the web site, because I 
don't have access to it and have not been able to get access to it. I 
have to move on to other responsibilities and not spin my wheels and 
irritate people, particularly if I'm the only one who cares that it's 
out of date. If you members feel the same way, please say share your 
thoughts - maybe Dean and Sheryl can work together on making the 
transition so we can keep the web site but make it more useful, and so 
our public image is of a currently active organization. If you disagree, 
it's moot, since I'm stepping back and leaving it to others to either 
work on it or not as the membership decides.

See you soon,

Greg Tatarian



On 10/24/2011 8:49 PM, Walter & Gwen Kilchherr wrote:
> Hi
> It seems to me that one of our purposes is to encourage the driving of these
> little British cars. I think the web site could help LBC enthusiasts hook up
> with the club. I don't know that the Yahoo group "thing" can serve this
> purpose. If that is the case I would happily contribute to the web site
> maintenance fund since I know nothing about maintaining web sites. Also, when
> Maria prints up the NOBBC cards, wouldn't it be nice to have our web address
> on them?
>
> My two cents
> Walter

From gtwincams at gmail.com  Tue Oct 25 11:21:10 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:21:10 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Lunch date and place is set!
Message-ID: <4EA6F006.8040708@gmail.com>

Hi,

A preponderance of votes for Rohnert Park, Saturday lunch through PM to 
me, and I would like to make it more available to our more southern 
members, so I'll make the call now.

Rohnert Park Mary's Pizza Shack, Saturday November 5, 1130 am.

Please RSVP to me at thenobbc at gmail.com by November 1 so I can make 
arrangements.

See you there!

Greg Tatarian

From mowog at sonic.net  Tue Oct 25 11:24:44 2011
From: mowog at sonic.net (Rod Williams)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:24:44 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Web/Facebook/Yahoo
Message-ID: <4F8CBDFF-81E2-4D26-9AF6-4EC7F292998A@sonic.net>

It's a pain, but I think the website is valuable. I'm also a big fan of the
Facebook presence (I follow several auto groups there) but I know it's not for
everyone. But it's so easy to post photos for all to see and with a couple of
minutes properly setting your account up, you don't get pelted with notices
and crap.

I, for one, really appreciate the hard work and time devoted to keeping the
internet connections going for the club. Thanks so much to all concerned.
--
Rod Williams
Petaluma, California
1967 MGB

From algarber at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 25 13:42:09 2011
From: algarber at hotmail.com (Al Garber)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:42:09 -0400
Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
In-Reply-To: <1319514553.71108.YahooMailClassic@web81708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4EA5EA37.1000309@gmail.com>,
	<1319514553.71108.YahooMailClassic@web81708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SNT139-W58ACB5F6B92FB9033CFA1AC3EC0@phx.gbl>

Hi,
   Having found the NOBBC through it's web site, I agree that having it as a
web presence is of value.
Not only for present members but for other clubs where ever they may be to see
what we are about.
I would also be more than happy to contribute to a web site maintanence fund.

AL Garber

"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible."
                                                                           Fr
ank Zappa



> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:49:13 -0700
> From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
>
> Hi
> It seems to me that one of our purposes is to encourage the driving of
these
> little British cars. I think the web site could help LBC enthusiasts hook
up
> with the club. I don't know that the Yahoo group "thing" can serve this
> purpose. If that is the case I would happily contribute to the web site
> maintenance fund since I know nothing about maintaining web sites. Also,
when
> Maria prints up the NOBBC cards, wouldn't it be nice to have our web
address
> on them?
>
> My two cents
> Walter
>
> --- On Mon, 10/24/11, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, October 24, 2011, 3:44 PM
>
> Hi,
>
> It's been more of a struggle than I thought it would take to get the web
site
> updated and the Facebook account deleted (the Yahoo Group takes its place,
and
> much better). It's taking too much time and causing too much friction
between
> myself and a few folks here, so I'm going to leave the status of the web
site
> to Dean, who has the account, and Sheryl, who agreed to manage the site and
> needs a new password. Tcherek, as I have said many times before, has been
very
> generous with her time and energy in this role, but is ready to step down.
>
> The web site is several years out of date, so you members have to ask if
it's
> worth paying for, or if you want to keep it up to date.
>
> I'm happy to keep running the membership list and the new Yahoo Group, and
> encourage more of you to join.
>
> Still don't know what to do about the Facebook account, but I'll ask Candy
> again if she can be of assistance.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg Tatarian
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From dan at drummondlaw.com  Tue Oct 25 14:19:51 2011
From: dan at drummondlaw.com (Daniel Drummond)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:19:51 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Lunch date and place is set!
In-Reply-To: <4EA6F006.8040708@gmail.com>
References: <4EA6F006.8040708@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F9DB9279-03CB-41BC-AD40-8DC1B5ED01AD@drummondlaw.com>

Good job. Looking forward to it. 

Dan

Sent from my iPhone

Daniel A. Drummond
Attorney at Law
576 B Street, Suite 2F
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(707) 542-3418

On Oct 25, 2011, at 10:41 AM, "Greg Tatarian" <gtwincams at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> A preponderance of votes for Rohnert Park, Saturday lunch through PM to 
> me, and I would like to make it more available to our more southern 
> members, so I'll make the call now.
> 
> Rohnert Park Mary's Pizza Shack, Saturday November 5, 1130 am.
> 
> Please RSVP to me at thenobbc at gmail.com by November 1 so I can make 
> arrangements.
> 
> See you there!
> 
> Greg Tatarian
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Tue Oct 25 14:58:13 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (gtwincams at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:58:13 +0000
Subject: [NOBBC] Lunch date and place is set!
In-Reply-To: <F9DB9279-03CB-41BC-AD40-8DC1B5ED01AD@drummondlaw.com>
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	<F9DB9279-03CB-41BC-AD40-8DC1B5ED01AD@drummondlaw.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.11.1319576727.2936.nobbc@autox.team.net>

Thanks, Dan. I am looking forward to it as well.
Greg
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Drummond <dan at drummondlaw.com>
Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:19:51 
To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Lunch date and place is set!

Good job. Looking forward to it. 

Dan

Sent from my iPhone

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Attorney at Law
576 B Street, Suite 2F
Santa Rosa, CA 95401
(707) 542-3418

On Oct 25, 2011, at 10:41 AM, "Greg Tatarian" <gtwincams at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> A preponderance of votes for Rohnert Park, Saturday lunch through PM to 
> me, and I would like to make it more available to our more southern 
> members, so I'll make the call now.
> 
> Rohnert Park Mary's Pizza Shack, Saturday November 5, 1130 am.
> 
> Please RSVP to me at thenobbc at gmail.com by November 1 so I can make 
> arrangements.
> 
> See you there!
> 
> Greg Tatarian
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Tue Oct 25 15:28:19 2011
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (JOHN KENNER)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 14:28:19 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Lunch date and place is set!
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References: <4EA6F006.8040708@gmail.com>
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thanks greg!!!!!!

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 OFFICE
415 806 2457 CELL




-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:21 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [NOBBC] Lunch date and place is set!

Hi,

A preponderance of votes for Rohnert Park, Saturday lunch through PM to me,
and I would like to make it more available to our more southern members, so
I'll make the call now.

Rohnert Park Mary's Pizza Shack, Saturday November 5, 1130 am.

Please RSVP to me at thenobbc at gmail.com by November 1 so I can make
arrangements.

See you there!

Greg Tatarian
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From bluesson at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 25 15:53:01 2011
From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 14:53:01 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
In-Reply-To: <SNT139-W58ACB5F6B92FB9033CFA1AC3EC0@phx.gbl>
References: <4EA5EA37.1000309@gmail.com>, ,
	<1319514553.71108.YahooMailClassic@web81708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<SNT139-W58ACB5F6B92FB9033CFA1AC3EC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU164-W465BB1A6E98AB1163D264CD0EC0@phx.gbl>

 I  joined this group a long time ago. I haven't shown up for many rides in a
long time. I accept that things change.
  When I joined this group, the basic concept was to keep it on the cheap;
some like minded guys with old Brit sports cars bring a bag lunch and a tank
of gas, and they DRIVE. They stop and eat somewhere along the road. I remember
us stopping all kinds of very informal places. It was about driving.
   I guess the group is now about PROMOTION. Well, promotion costs money. To
what gain, I ask? I've always found the best promotion for this group was word
of mouth/face to face. But that's just my experience.
   I believe you're missing out by not going with the yahoogroups.com setup.
You're not going to be bombarded with advertising. I've moderated a group with
well over three hundred members and a lot of traffic for ten years, and it's
worked great for this worldwide group of S3 owners.
   At this point, I've asked Greg to remove me from the roster. See, what I
really like about the yahoogroup setup is that even as the moderator, i
receive no email to clutter up my inbox or even my junk mail (which is where
the NOBBC has been with me for a long time, organizationally speaking).
Instead, I just log in when I want to check my mail. I like it simple.  Some
day when you folks get things in order, maybe I'll see you at a ride. Keep the
rubber side down... best wishes, Tom Reier

> From: algarber at hotmail.com
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:42:09 -0400
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
>
> Hi,
>    Having found the NOBBC through it's web site, I agree that having it as
a
> web presence is of value.
> Not only for present members but for other clubs where ever they may be to
see
> what we are about.
> I would also be more than happy to contribute to a web site maintanence
fund.
>
> AL Garber
>
> "Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible."
>
Fr
> ank Zappa
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:49:13 -0700
> > From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net
> > To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
> >
> > Hi
> > It seems to me that one of our purposes is to encourage the driving of
> these
> > little British cars. I think the web site could help LBC enthusiasts hook
> up
> > with the club. I don't know that the Yahoo group "thing" can serve this
> > purpose. If that is the case I would happily contribute to the web site
> > maintenance fund since I know nothing about maintaining web sites. Also,
> when
> > Maria prints up the NOBBC cards, wouldn't it be nice to have our web
> address
> > on them?
> >
> > My two cents
> > Walter
> >
> > --- On Mon, 10/24/11, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
> > To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> > Date: Monday, October 24, 2011, 3:44 PM
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > It's been more of a struggle than I thought it would take to get the web
> site
> > updated and the Facebook account deleted (the Yahoo Group takes its
place,
> and
> > much better). It's taking too much time and causing too much friction
> between
> > myself and a few folks here, so I'm going to leave the status of the web
> site
> > to Dean, who has the account, and Sheryl, who agreed to manage the site
and
> > needs a new password. Tcherek, as I have said many times before, has been
> very
> > generous with her time and energy in this role, but is ready to step
down.
> >
> > The web site is several years out of date, so you members have to ask if
> it's
> > worth paying for, or if you want to keep it up to date.
> >
> > I'm happy to keep running the membership list and the new Yahoo Group,
and
> > encourage more of you to join.
> >
> > Still don't know what to do about the Facebook account, but I'll ask
Candy
> > again if she can be of assistance.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Greg Tatarian
> > _______________________________________________
> > NOBBC at autox.team.net
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Suggested annual donation $11.47
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> > Unsubscribe/Manage:
> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wkilch at sbcglobal.net
> > _______________________________________________
> > NOBBC at autox.team.net
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Suggested annual donation $11.47
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> > Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/algarber at hotmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> NOBBC at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $11.47
> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/bluesson at hotmail.com

From bluesson at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 25 15:54:55 2011
From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 14:54:55 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
In-Reply-To: <3DCEA0DD15624347B2579124D0D23360@williamsonPC>
References: <4EA5EA37.1000309@gmail.com>,
	<SNT139-W5463AA6CDBC91436FA399BA1EC0@phx.gbl>,
	<3DCEA0DD15624347B2579124D0D23360@williamsonPC>
Message-ID: <BLU164-W649719DD0727224B3F2F2BD0EC0@phx.gbl>

  It makes no difference upper or lower case.
   NOBBC or nobbc on the GROUP SEARCH LINE and the group pops right up. It's
simple. Tom R
> From: hawkview at sonic.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:37:38 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
>
> search using all caps  NOBBC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cuthroat - Mel Cohen
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 6:58 PM
> To: Mel Cohen
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
>
> I could not find the group in Yahoo Groups. I belong to several Yahoo
> Groups,
> so it should be hard for me to do.
> Mel Cohen95 Morgan Plus 8
>
> > Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:44:07 -0700
> > From: gtwincams at gmail.com
> > To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > It's been more of a struggle than I thought it would take to get the web
> > site updated and the Facebook account deleted (the Yahoo Group takes its
> > place, and much better). It's taking too much time and causing too much
> > friction between myself and a few folks here, so I'm going to leave the
> > status of the web site to Dean, who has the account, and Sheryl, who
> > agreed to manage the site and needs a new password. Tcherek, as I have
> > said many times before, has been very generous with her time and energy
> > in this role, but is ready to step down.
> >
> > The web site is several years out of date, so you members have to ask if
> > it's worth paying for, or if you want to keep it up to date.
> >
> > I'm happy to keep running the membership list and the new Yahoo Group,
> > and encourage more of you to join.
> >
> > Still don't know what to do about the Facebook account, but I'll ask
> > Candy again if she can be of assistance.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Greg Tatarian
> > _______________________________________________
> > NOBBC at autox.team.net
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Suggested annual donation  $11.47
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> > Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/cuthroat at live.com
> _______________________________________________
> NOBBC at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $11.47
> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
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> _______________________________________________
> NOBBC at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $11.47
> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
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From member at linkedin.com  Tue Oct 25 16:03:17 2011
From: member at linkedin.com (LeRoy Churches via LinkedIn)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 22:03:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [NOBBC] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
Message-ID: <1998778668.4087155.1319580197211.JavaMail.app@ela4-bed78.prod>

LinkedIn
------------




    LeRoy Churches requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn:
  
------------------------------------------

Norman S.,

I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.

- LeRoy

Accept invitation from LeRoy  Churches
http://www.linkedin.com/e/-56hi8h-gu7fz8ly-r/QJefc3tin5bd5bHTQ1W2B0QWUUCkkHA5/blk/I123581350_65/1BpC5vrmRLoRZcjkkZt5YCpnlOt3RApnhMpmdzgmhxrSNBszYRdBYMdjcNe3kPcz59bTpUkCt6i7lRbPcRcPkTdz4VdzgLrCBxbOYWrSlI/EML_comm_afe/?hs=false&tok=06pLEOgH0HBAY1

View profile of LeRoy Churches
http://www.linkedin.com/e/-56hi8h-gu7fz8ly-r/rsn/148862615/GwhD/?hs=false&tok=0vfxwseNMHBAY1
------------------------------------------

From dan at drummondlaw.com  Tue Oct 25 17:19:55 2011
From: dan at drummondlaw.com (Daniel Drummond)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 16:19:55 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
In-Reply-To: <BLU164-W465BB1A6E98AB1163D264CD0EC0@phx.gbl>
References: <4EA5EA37.1000309@gmail.com>, ,
	<1319514553.71108.YahooMailClassic@web81708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<SNT139-W58ACB5F6B92FB9033CFA1AC3EC0@phx.gbl>
	<BLU164-W465BB1A6E98AB1163D264CD0EC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E0BE65569FC@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>

"Some day when you folks get things in order, maybe I'll see you at a ride."

Really?  Is this necessary?  Little digs like this are not only unprofessional, but cause those who are volunteering their time and efforts to question why they are doing so.  We're all volunteers with day jobs and other responsibilities.  Let's show a little respect to those making an effort.  If you're unhappy with the set-up, just leave, but please keep the sniping to yourself.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Reier
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:53 PM
To: NOBBC
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?

 I  joined this group a long time ago. I haven't shown up for many rides in a long time. I accept that things change.
  When I joined this group, the basic concept was to keep it on the cheap; some like minded guys with old Brit sports cars bring a bag lunch and a tank of gas, and they DRIVE. They stop and eat somewhere along the road. I remember us stopping all kinds of very informal places. It was about driving.
   I guess the group is now about PROMOTION. Well, promotion costs money. To what gain, I ask? I've always found the best promotion for this group was word of mouth/face to face. But that's just my experience.
   I believe you're missing out by not going with the yahoogroups.com setup.
You're not going to be bombarded with advertising. I've moderated a group with well over three hundred members and a lot of traffic for ten years, and it's worked great for this worldwide group of S3 owners.
   At this point, I've asked Greg to remove me from the roster. See, what I really like about the yahoogroup setup is that even as the moderator, i receive no email to clutter up my inbox or even my junk mail (which is where the NOBBC has been with me for a long time, organizationally speaking).
Instead, I just log in when I want to check my mail. I like it simple.  Some day when you folks get things in order, maybe I'll see you at a ride. Keep the rubber side down... best wishes, Tom Reier

> From: algarber at hotmail.com
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:42:09 -0400
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
>
> Hi,
>    Having found the NOBBC through it's web site, I agree that having 
> it as
a
> web presence is of value.
> Not only for present members but for other clubs where ever they may 
> be to
see
> what we are about.
> I would also be more than happy to contribute to a web site 
> maintanence
fund.
>
> AL Garber
>
> "Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible."
>
Fr
> ank Zappa
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:49:13 -0700
> > From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net
> > To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
> >
> > Hi
> > It seems to me that one of our purposes is to encourage the driving 
> > of
> these
> > little British cars. I think the web site could help LBC enthusiasts 
> > hook
> up
> > with the club. I don't know that the Yahoo group "thing" can serve 
> > this purpose. If that is the case I would happily contribute to the 
> > web site maintenance fund since I know nothing about maintaining web 
> > sites. Also,
> when
> > Maria prints up the NOBBC cards, wouldn't it be nice to have our web
> address
> > on them?
> >
> > My two cents
> > Walter
> >
> > --- On Mon, 10/24/11, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
> > To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> > Date: Monday, October 24, 2011, 3:44 PM
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > It's been more of a struggle than I thought it would take to get the 
> > web
> site
> > updated and the Facebook account deleted (the Yahoo Group takes its
place,
> and
> > much better). It's taking too much time and causing too much 
> > friction
> between
> > myself and a few folks here, so I'm going to leave the status of the 
> > web
> site
> > to Dean, who has the account, and Sheryl, who agreed to manage the 
> > site
and
> > needs a new password. Tcherek, as I have said many times before, has 
> > been
> very
> > generous with her time and energy in this role, but is ready to step
down.
> >
> > The web site is several years out of date, so you members have to 
> > ask if
> it's
> > worth paying for, or if you want to keep it up to date.
> >
> > I'm happy to keep running the membership list and the new Yahoo 
> > Group,
and
> > encourage more of you to join.
> >
> > Still don't know what to do about the Facebook account, but I'll ask
Candy
> > again if she can be of assistance.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Greg Tatarian
> > _______________________________________________
> > NOBBC at autox.team.net
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation 
> > $11.47
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> > Unsubscribe/Manage:
> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wkilch at sbcglobal.net
> > _______________________________________________
> > NOBBC at autox.team.net
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation 
> > $11.47
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> > Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/algarber at hotmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> NOBBC at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation  
> $11.47
> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/bluesson at hotmail.com
_______________________________________________
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Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $11.47
Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dan at drummondlaw.com

From gtwincams at gmail.com  Tue Oct 25 17:22:49 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 16:22:49 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
In-Reply-To: <1998778668.4087155.1319580197211.JavaMail.app@ela4-bed78.prod>
References: <1998778668.4087155.1319580197211.JavaMail.app@ela4-bed78.prod>
Message-ID: <4EA744C9.5090906@gmail.com>

On 10/25/2011 3:03 PM, LeRoy Churches via LinkedIn wrote:
> LinkedIn
> ------------
>
>
LeRoy - You have sent this to the entire club email list. Please 
double-check your email addresses before posting.

Thank you,
Greg Tatarian - Administrator

From jkenner at tamcab.com  Tue Oct 25 18:50:19 2011
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (JOHN KENNER)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:50:19 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] CONFUSED???
Message-ID: <006201cc9379$3cf978d0$b6ec6a70$@TAMCAB.COM>

Now I'm really confused.

 

The guy who set up the Yahoo thing for us is mad at us for using it?

 

I've been a member for 5 years and have only seen him go on 1 ride and

in the parking lot once. One was when Steve died and the next was when Ron
died.

 

There seems to be a ripple in the force!!

 

Remember what brings us all together is our love of British Cars and getting
a chance to

use them to go for a ride with each other. 

 

How we communicate with each other is not all that important, at least not
to me.

I can use my delete key very well.

 

This will all pass soon and we can continue being a happy little club with
no rules.

 

See you on the next ride,

 

Happy Trails,

 

JOHN KENNER

 

510 231 6803 OFFICE

415 806 2457 CELL

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From hawkview at sonic.net  Tue Oct 25 19:51:25 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 18:51:25 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
In-Reply-To: <BLU164-W649719DD0727224B3F2F2BD0EC0@phx.gbl>
References: <4EA5EA37.1000309@gmail.com>,
	<SNT139-W5463AA6CDBC91436FA399BA1EC0@phx.gbl>,
	<3DCEA0DD15624347B2579124D0D23360@williamsonPC>
	<BLU164-W649719DD0727224B3F2F2BD0EC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0C84FEDA5A6B44B6A368633D41644318@williamsonPC>

nobbc didn't work for me.  NOBBC did.  I don't know why, just the way it 
worked.
In past emails to Greg I indicated the same problem.  I couldn't find it. 
Then I noticed Re: [NOBBC].  Tried it and voila!
clif  74 JH

-----Original Message----- 
From: Tom Reier
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:54 PM
To: NOBBC
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?

  It makes no difference upper or lower case.
   NOBBC or nobbc on the GROUP SEARCH LINE and the group pops right up. It's
simple. Tom R
> From: hawkview at sonic.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:37:38 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
>
> search using all caps  NOBBC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cuthroat - Mel Cohen
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 6:58 PM
> To: Mel Cohen
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
>
> I could not find the group in Yahoo Groups. I belong to several Yahoo
> Groups,
> so it should be hard for me to do.
> Mel Cohen95 Morgan Plus 8
>
> > Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:44:07 -0700
> > From: gtwincams at gmail.com
> > To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > It's been more of a struggle than I thought it would take to get the web
> > site updated and the Facebook account deleted (the Yahoo Group takes its
> > place, and much better). It's taking too much time and causing too much
> > friction between myself and a few folks here, so I'm going to leave the
> > status of the web site to Dean, who has the account, and Sheryl, who
> > agreed to manage the site and needs a new password. Tcherek, as I have
> > said many times before, has been very generous with her time and energy
> > in this role, but is ready to step down.
> >
> > The web site is several years out of date, so you members have to ask if
> > it's worth paying for, or if you want to keep it up to date.
> >
> > I'm happy to keep running the membership list and the new Yahoo Group,
> > and encourage more of you to join.
> >
> > Still don't know what to do about the Facebook account, but I'll ask
> > Candy again if she can be of assistance.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Greg Tatarian
> > _______________________________________________
> > NOBBC at autox.team.net
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Suggested annual donation  $11.47
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> > Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/cuthroat at live.com
> _______________________________________________
> NOBBC at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $11.47
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> _______________________________________________
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> Suggested annual donation  $11.47
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Tue Oct 25 20:43:43 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 19:43:43 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
In-Reply-To: <4EA744C9.5090906@gmail.com>
References: <1998778668.4087155.1319580197211.JavaMail.app@ela4-bed78.prod>
	<4EA744C9.5090906@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <39F6412F396D411684F972727D1A9643@williamsonPC>

Not sure, but I don't think this has much to do with LBCs, cars or parts for 
sale, rides, races, shows, or our club.
Comments?
Clif  74 JH

-----Original Message----- 
From: Greg Tatarian
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:22 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

On 10/25/2011 3:03 PM, LeRoy Churches via LinkedIn wrote:
> LinkedIn
> ------------
>
>
LeRoy - You have sent this to the entire club email list. Please
double-check your email addresses before posting.

Thank you,
Greg Tatarian - Administrator
_______________________________________________
NOBBC at autox.team.net
Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
Suggested annual donation  $11.47
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From ldc1940 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 25 21:32:22 2011
From: ldc1940 at gmail.com (Leroy Churches)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:32:22 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
In-Reply-To: <39F6412F396D411684F972727D1A9643@williamsonPC>
References: <1998778668.4087155.1319580197211.JavaMail.app@ela4-bed78.prod>
	<4EA744C9.5090906@gmail.com>
	<39F6412F396D411684F972727D1A9643@williamsonPC>
Message-ID: <CAO5Kq2Dq35u=srJjrCOJCbwjHmVHOrDFUyQ+FVkQahc_H4fwkQ@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry I have no idea how this happened some one ask me to join them in i
don;t even know what i, hit confirm  now this   Sorry they should not let
old men have such hard to understand toys sorta like working on a new car to
Minny bells whistles and chips I like carburetors and thing that say Lucas
on them.
LeRoy

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson <
hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:

> Not sure, but I don't think this has much to do with LBCs, cars or parts
> for sale, rides, races, shows, or our club.
> Comments?
> Clif  74 JH
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Greg Tatarian
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:22 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
>
> On 10/25/2011 3:03 PM, LeRoy Churches via LinkedIn wrote:
>
>> LinkedIn
>> ------------
>>
>>
>> LeRoy - You have sent this to the entire club email list. Please
> double-check your email addresses before posting.
>
> Thank you,
> Greg Tatarian - Administrator
> ______________________________**_________________
> NOBBC at autox.team.net
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Tue Oct 25 21:46:32 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:46:32 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
In-Reply-To: <BLU164-W465BB1A6E98AB1163D264CD0EC0@phx.gbl>
References: <4EA5EA37.1000309@gmail.com>,
	, <1319514553.71108.YahooMailClassic@web81708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<SNT139-W58ACB5F6B92FB9033CFA1AC3EC0@phx.gbl>
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-----Original Message----- 
From: Tom Reier
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:53 PM
To: NOBBC
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?

I  joined this group a long time ago. I haven't shown up for many rides in a
long time. I accept that things change (MAYBE YOU HAVE CHANGED).
  When I joined this group, the basic concept was to keep it on the cheap; 
(NO CHANGE THERE)
some like minded guys with old Brit sports cars bring a bag lunch and a tank
of gas, and they DRIVE (AND NO CHANGE THERE). They stop and eat somewhere 
along the road. I remember
us stopping all kinds of very informal places. It was about driving (AND 
REALLY NO CHANGE THERE...EXCEPT NO RON).
   I guess the group is now about PROMOTION (?????????????). Well, promotion 
costs money (WHAT MONEY?). To
what gain, I ask? I've always found the best promotion for this group was 
word
of mouth/face to face (OH, YOUR TALKING ABOUT THE WEBSITE?  SO MAYBE THINGS 
HAVE CHANGED). But that's just my experience.
   I believe you're missing out by not going with the yahoogroups.com setup 
(IT'S AN OPTION TOM).
You're not going to be bombarded with advertising (YET). I've moderated a 
group with
well over three hundred members and a lot of traffic for ten years, and it's
worked great for this worldwide group of S3 owners.
   At this point, I've asked Greg to remove me from the roster. See, what I
really like about the yahoogroup setup is that even as the moderator, i
receive no email to clutter up my inbox or even my junk mail (THAT IS AN 
OPTION AS WELL)(which is where
the NOBBC has been with me for a long time, organizationally speaking).
Instead, I just log in when I want to check my mail (AND YOU CAN STILL DO 
THAT). I like it simple.  Some
day when you folks get things in order, maybe I'll see you at a ride. Keep 
the
rubber side down... best wishes, Tom Reier
I AGREE WITH DAN TOM.  YOUR EMAIL SEEMS THREATENING, AND VERY SNOBBISH.
"...maybe I'll see you at a ride." (NOT EVEN ON A RIDE).  LISTEN TO YOURSELF 
TOM.  I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU, BUT PLEASE DON'T DO US ANY FAVORS.  IF YOU 
THINK THINGS SHOULD BE DIFFERENT, PERHAPS YOU SHOULD GET INVOLVED AND NOT 
COMPLAIN ABOUT THE WORK BEING DONE BY OTHERS.
OF COURSE SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN REMOVED, YOU PROBABLY WON'T EVEN SEE THIS. 
JOKES ON ME...HA HA.
Clif  74 JH

> From: algarber at hotmail.com
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:42:09 -0400
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
>
> Hi,
>    Having found the NOBBC through it's web site, I agree that having it as
a
> web presence is of value.
> Not only for present members but for other clubs where ever they may be to
see
> what we are about.
> I would also be more than happy to contribute to a web site maintanence
fund.
>
> AL Garber
>
> "Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible."
>
Fr
> ank Zappa
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:49:13 -0700
> > From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net
> > To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
> >
> > Hi
> > It seems to me that one of our purposes is to encourage the driving of
> these
> > little British cars. I think the web site could help LBC enthusiasts 
> > hook
> up
> > with the club. I don't know that the Yahoo group "thing" can serve this
> > purpose. If that is the case I would happily contribute to the web site
> > maintenance fund since I know nothing about maintaining web sites. Also,
> when
> > Maria prints up the NOBBC cards, wouldn't it be nice to have our web
> address
> > on them?
> >
> > My two cents
> > Walter
> >
> > --- On Mon, 10/24/11, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
> > To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> > Date: Monday, October 24, 2011, 3:44 PM
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > It's been more of a struggle than I thought it would take to get the web
> site
> > updated and the Facebook account deleted (the Yahoo Group takes its
place,
> and
> > much better). It's taking too much time and causing too much friction
> between
> > myself and a few folks here, so I'm going to leave the status of the web
> site
> > to Dean, who has the account, and Sheryl, who agreed to manage the site
and
> > needs a new password. Tcherek, as I have said many times before, has 
> > been
> very
> > generous with her time and energy in this role, but is ready to step
down.
> >
> > The web site is several years out of date, so you members have to ask if
> it's
> > worth paying for, or if you want to keep it up to date.
> >
> > I'm happy to keep running the membership list and the new Yahoo Group,
and
> > encourage more of you to join.
> >
> > Still don't know what to do about the Facebook account, but I'll ask
Candy
> > again if she can be of assistance.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Greg Tatarian
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Tue Oct 25 22:40:15 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 21:40:15 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
In-Reply-To: <CAO5Kq2Dq35u=srJjrCOJCbwjHmVHOrDFUyQ+FVkQahc_H4fwkQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1998778668.4087155.1319580197211.JavaMail.app@ela4-bed78.prod><4EA744C9.5090906@gmail.com><39F6412F396D411684F972727D1A9643@williamsonPC>
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No problem Leroy.
Now lets see you out on a ride!
clif

-----Original Message----- 
From: Leroy Churches
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 8:32 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

Sorry I have no idea how this happened some one ask me to join them in i
don;t even know what i, hit confirm  now this   Sorry they should not let
old men have such hard to understand toys sorta like working on a new car to
Minny bells whistles and chips I like carburetors and thing that say Lucas
on them.
LeRoy

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson <
hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:

> Not sure, but I don't think this has much to do with LBCs, cars or parts
> for sale, rides, races, shows, or our club.
> Comments?
> Clif  74 JH
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Greg Tatarian
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:22 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
>
> On 10/25/2011 3:03 PM, LeRoy Churches via LinkedIn wrote:
>
>> LinkedIn
>> ------------
>>
>>
>> LeRoy - You have sent this to the entire club email list. Please
> double-check your email addresses before posting.
>
> Thank you,
> Greg Tatarian - Administrator
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From wkilch at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 25 23:05:43 2011
From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (Walter & Gwen Kilchherr)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 22:05:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
In-Reply-To: <BLU164-W465BB1A6E98AB1163D264CD0EC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1319605543.26327.YahooMailClassic@web81707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Somehow, despite this tremendously debilitating lack of  "ORDER", a group of
us had a great ride and lunch last Saturday. How did we do it?

Walter

--- On Tue, 10/25/11, Tom Reier <bluesson at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Tom Reier <bluesson at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
To: "NOBBC" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, October 25, 2011, 2:53 PM

 I  joined this group a long time ago. I haven't shown up for many rides in a
long time. I accept that things change.
  When I joined this group, the basic concept was to keep it on the cheap;
some like minded guys with old Brit sports cars bring a bag lunch and a tank
of gas, and they DRIVE. They stop and eat somewhere along the road. I
remember
us stopping all kinds of very informal places. It was about driving.
   I guess the group is now about PROMOTION. Well, promotion costs money. To
what gain, I ask? I've always found the best promotion for this group was
word
of mouth/face to face. But that's just my experience.
   I believe you're missing out by not going with the yahoogroups.com setup.
You're not going to be bombarded with advertising. I've moderated a group
with
well over three hundred members and a lot of traffic for ten years, and it's
worked great for this worldwide group of S3 owners.
   At this point, I've asked Greg to remove me from the roster. See, what I
really like about the yahoogroup setup is that even as the moderator, i
receive no email to clutter up my inbox or even my junk mail (which is where
the NOBBC has been with me for a long time, organizationally speaking).
Instead, I just log in when I want to check my mail. I like it simple.  Some
day when you folks get things in order, maybe I'll see you at a ride. Keep
the
rubber side down... best wishes, Tom Reier

> From: algarber at hotmail.com
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:42:09 -0400
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
>
> Hi,
>    Having found the NOBBC through it's web site, I agree that having it as
a
> web presence is of value.
> Not only for present members but for other clubs where ever they may be to
see
> what we are about.
> I would also be more than happy to contribute to a web site maintanence
fund.
>
> AL Garber
>
> "Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible."
>
Fr
> ank Zappa
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:49:13 -0700
> > From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net
> > To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
> >
> > Hi
> > It seems to me that one of our purposes is to encourage the driving of
> these
> > little British cars. I think the web site could help LBC enthusiasts hook
> up
> > with the club. I don't know that the Yahoo group "thing" can serve this
> > purpose. If that is the case I would happily contribute to the web site
> > maintenance fund since I know nothing about maintaining web sites. Also,
> when
> > Maria prints up the NOBBC cards, wouldn't it be nice to have our web
> address
> > on them?
> >
> > My two cents
> > Walter
> >
> > --- On Mon, 10/24/11, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [NOBBC] Dean and Sheryl - web site?
> > To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> > Date: Monday, October 24, 2011, 3:44 PM
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > It's been more of a struggle than I thought it would take to get the web
> site
> > updated and the Facebook account deleted (the Yahoo Group takes its
place,
> and
> > much better). It's taking too much time and causing too much friction
> between
> > myself and a few folks here, so I'm going to leave the status of the web
> site
> > to Dean, who has the account, and Sheryl, who agreed to manage the site
and
> > needs a new password. Tcherek, as I have said many times before, has been
> very
> > generous with her time and energy in this role, but is ready to step
down.
> >
> > The web site is several years out of date, so you members have to ask if
> it's
> > worth paying for, or if you want to keep it up to date.
> >
> > I'm happy to keep running the membership list and the new Yahoo Group,
and
> > encourage more of you to join.
> >
> > Still don't know what to do about the Facebook account, but I'll ask
Candy
> > again if she can be of assistance.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Greg Tatarian
> > _______________________________________________
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Wed Oct 26 08:46:01 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 07:46:01 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Notice from Administrator - digest or individual
Message-ID: <4EA81D29.4060102@gmail.com>

Hi Folks,

Those who have signed up for the Yahoo Group may decide to unsubscribe 
to this email forum, or you can change your settings to receive all 
emails in daily digest form.

This email forum will slowly dwindle to notices of club drives and 
events only, with discussions encouraged to occur on the new Yahoo 
Group. This will allow each of you to choose just how involved, if at 
all, you want to be in the discussions.

The Yahoo Group also provides notices of club drives and events. The 
calendar feature is also very helpful, as it can be referred to 
repeatedly for directions and information, without the need to search 
through emails. Those who want to interact with other members on the 
Yahoo Group should not feel discouraged - that's what it's for. Those 
who have no interest don't have to receive posts, only special notices 
of drives or events.

If you need help, or want to unsubscribe or change to digest mode, email 
me (don't hit reply and send to the entire group) at thenobbc at gmail.com.

Cheers,
Greg Tatarian

From drmartyrayman at gmail.com  Wed Oct 26 17:25:10 2011
From: drmartyrayman at gmail.com (Martin Sinai Rayman)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:25:10 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Notice from Administrator - digest or individual
In-Reply-To: <4EA81D29.4060102@gmail.com>
References: <4EA81D29.4060102@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL99TMp=h9An4XdducCL_HW6cCkBuGztOMqqrzBAwv3Mu-bBHQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks.
I think this is a good system for folks like me.
Now, I can tune in whenever I want to but still get the notices of events.
Marty
'53 MG TD

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> Those who have signed up for the Yahoo Group may decide to unsubscribe to
> this email forum, or you can change your settings to receive all emails in
> daily digest form.
>
> This email forum will slowly dwindle to notices of club drives and events
> only, with discussions encouraged to occur on the new Yahoo Group. This will
> allow each of you to choose just how involved, if at all, you want to be in
> the discussions.
>
> The Yahoo Group also provides notices of club drives and events. The
> calendar feature is also very helpful, as it can be referred to repeatedly
> for directions and information, without the need to search through emails.
> Those who want to interact with other members on the Yahoo Group should not
> feel discouraged - that's what it's for. Those who have no interest don't
> have to receive posts, only special notices of drives or events.
>
> If you need help, or want to unsubscribe or change to digest mode, email me
> (don't hit reply and send to the entire group) at thenobbc at gmail.com.
>
> Cheers,
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From thenobbc at gmail.com  Mon Oct 31 10:21:48 2011
From: thenobbc at gmail.com (NOBBC)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:21:48 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Member's Lunch
Message-ID: <4EAED92C.1050201@gmail.com>

Hi,

For those who would like to meet for lunch, Saturday at 1130, Mary's 
Pizza Shack in Rohnert Park, please RSVP to me at thenobbc at gmail.com by 
tomorrow, 11/1/11.

Alcoholic beverages are not included but can be purchased separately for 
those who wish.

So far we have 9 members attending. We'll all pitch in to cover any food 
costs that exceed the $150 gift certificate.

Happy Halloween!

Greg Tatarian


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From wbain at sonic.net  Mon Oct 31 13:27:28 2011
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:27:28 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Member's Lunch
In-Reply-To: <4EAED92C.1050201@gmail.com>
References: <4EAED92C.1050201@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9B379D95-B37A-4D11-9EA4-866151CA2853@sonic.net>

Sorry, can't make this one as I have a prior commitment.
Too bad. Hope y'all have fun!!!

Wendell

On Oct 31, 2011, at 10:21 AM, NOBBC wrote:

> Hi,
>
> For those who would like to meet for lunch, Saturday at 1130,  
> Mary's Pizza Shack in Rohnert Park, please RSVP to me at  
> thenobbc at gmail.com by tomorrow, 11/1/11.
>
> Alcoholic beverages are not included but can be purchased  
> separately for those who wish.
>
> So far we have 9 members attending. We'll all pitch in to cover any  
> food costs that exceed the $150 gift certificate.
>
> Happy Halloween!
>
> Greg Tatarian
>
>
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From tsthresh at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 31 17:32:39 2011
From: tsthresh at hotmail.com (Tim )
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:32:39 -0700
Subject: [NOBBC] Member's Lunch
In-Reply-To: <4EAED92C.1050201@gmail.com>
References: <4EAED92C.1050201@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY170-DS27688651E357F067074198D8D70@phx.gbl>

Greg,

I had thought I had replied positively so hope I am one of the 9!

See you all there,
Tim

-----Original Message----- 
From: NOBBC
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 10:21 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [NOBBC] Member's Lunch

Hi,

For those who would like to meet for lunch, Saturday at 1130, Mary's
Pizza Shack in Rohnert Park, please RSVP to me at thenobbc at gmail.com by
tomorrow, 11/1/11.

Alcoholic beverages are not included but can be purchased separately for
those who wish.

So far we have 9 members attending. We'll all pitch in to cover any food
costs that exceed the $150 gift certificate.

Happy Halloween!

Greg Tatarian


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