From nobbc at sonic.net  Tue Jul  5 13:40:19 2011
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 12:40:19 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] July Ride Schedule
Message-ID: <4E1368A3.6040803@sonic.net>

Rides will be on the 9th (this coming Saturday) and 23rd starting at 
10AM behind Bad Ass unless someone has an alternate to propose. As 
always this time of year, we will picnic so bring a lunch and plenty of 
gas. Ride suggestions are always welcome as are alternate times and dates.

Hope everyone had a nice 4th!

Ron
58 MGA

From dawsonchurch at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 14:08:19 2011
From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 13:08:19 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] July Ride Schedule
In-Reply-To: <4E1368A3.6040803@sonic.net>
References: <4E1368A3.6040803@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <CAGEfHZq+p-hPdZZkyu2vV4pSavkopDCefEYARKs=XoF8GEWFpA@mail.gmail.com>

I probably won't be able to make it, but I have a suggestion for a
destination: The Classic Car and Boat Show at the Marin Yacht Club in San
Rafael.

Cheers,

Dawson


On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Ron Engelhardt <nobbc at sonic.net> wrote:

> Rides will be on the 9th (this coming Saturday) and 23rd starting at 10AM
> behind Bad Ass unless someone has an alternate to propose. As always this
> time of year, we will picnic so bring a lunch and plenty of gas. Ride
> suggestions are always welcome as are alternate times and dates.
>
> Hope everyone had a nice 4th!
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
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From mvg1 at att.net  Tue Jul  5 14:18:04 2011
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 13:18:04 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] July Ride Schedule
References: <4E1368A3.6040803@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <CE9D02E1F3A9467C8AB14732B034E9F1@mike>

Hey there Captain Ron,

Per your previous email, isn't the Marin Yacht Club having their annual 
Classic and Car & Boat show this Saturday, and are any of our members going?

Michael
64 TR4

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
To: <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 12:40 PM
Subject: [Nobbc] July Ride Schedule


> Rides will be on the 9th (this coming Saturday) and 23rd starting at 10AM 
> behind Bad Ass unless someone has an alternate to propose. As always this 
> time of year, we will picnic so bring a lunch and plenty of gas. Ride 
> suggestions are always welcome as are alternate times and dates.
>
> Hope everyone had a nice 4th!
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
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From morrisf at SIDWater.org  Tue Jul  5 14:57:23 2011
From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 13:57:23 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] July Ride Schedule
In-Reply-To: <CE9D02E1F3A9467C8AB14732B034E9F1@mike>
References: <4E1368A3.6040803@sonic.net>
	<CE9D02E1F3A9467C8AB14732B034E9F1@mike>
Message-ID: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E101F9CB2E@echo01.SID.LOCAL>

Aye, aye matey... ye be bound thar?  'Twas planning on dropping me hook
in the Marin parking lot to see what I could sea.  What could be
better??? Classic Cars mixed with Boats...both being holes that you pour
your money into!  Let me know your schedule and maybe we meet you as we
come across Highway 37 to turn south and you all come down 101...or we
can meet up there.  We had a nice ride out to Inverness in the roadster
yesterday. Nothing sweeter than being able to chase the wind while
smelling sweet hay and dairy-aires wafting in the sea breeze.


Frank Morris

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:18 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] July Ride Schedule

Hey there Captain Ron,

Per your previous email, isn't the Marin Yacht Club having their annual
Classic and Car & Boat show this Saturday, and are any of our members
going?

Michael
64 TR4

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
To: <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 12:40 PM
Subject: [Nobbc] July Ride Schedule


> Rides will be on the 9th (this coming Saturday) and 23rd starting at
10AM
> behind Bad Ass unless someone has an alternate to propose. As always
this
> time of year, we will picnic so bring a lunch and plenty of gas. Ride
> suggestions are always welcome as are alternate times and dates.
>
> Hope everyone had a nice 4th!
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
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From rolquinmac at me.com  Tue Jul  5 17:58:18 2011
From: rolquinmac at me.com (Roland Quintero)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 16:58:18 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] July Ride Schedule
In-Reply-To: <4E1368A3.6040803@sonic.net>
References: <4E1368A3.6040803@sonic.net>
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Can anyone give the timetable... I need to be in  Walnut Creek by prox 2p.m.  Is this possible...Thanks anyone.   Roland  p.s. Can I give the donation to someone on that day or do I have to do it online.?????  It is about time that I do it....!!!
On Jul 5, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote:

> Rides will be on the 9th (this coming Saturday) and 23rd starting at 10AM behind Bad Ass unless someone has an alternate to propose. As always this time of year, we will picnic so bring a lunch and plenty of gas. Ride suggestions are always welcome as are alternate times and dates.
> 
> Hope everyone had a nice 4th!
> 
> Ron
> 58 MGA
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From techyes at pacbell.net  Tue Jul  5 21:30:33 2011
From: techyes at pacbell.net (Sheryl)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 20:30:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw:  Speaking of MG's
Message-ID: <1309923033.23264.YahooMailRC@web83601.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to all...
The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127 San Marin Dr, 
Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from home is too good 
to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.

Sheryl & Dennis
1976 MGB x2



----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's

*It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to open it up
to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey along for the
drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor with NOBCC but
each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive to the
Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net> wrote:

> Hi Marty,
>
> Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG medalion on
> my Triumph?
>
> Michael
> 64 TR4
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
> drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>
>
>  *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
>>
>>
>> Summer West Marin Tour
>>
>> Saturday, July 9
>> Novato
>>
>> Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
>>
>> Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West Marin, and Bud
>> Alderson
>> and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that. Leaving
>> from
>> Novato,
>> we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over Wilson
>> Hill,
>> and follow
>> the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and the Panoramic
>> Highway
>> (Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
>> look-around
>> and cheese
>> sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning organic cheese
>> making).
>> (Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring the Marin
>> area
>> organic
>> industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
>> We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a stagecoach stop
>> and
>> gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late 1800s. Come
>> visit with old
>> MG friends, and make some new ones.
>> There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have your pick: the
>> quickest is
>> Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy route, follow
>> Marty
>> back over
>> Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view tour on
>> Shoreline Drive
>> (Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total driving time
>> from
>> Novato
>> back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
>> When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at 127 San Marin
>> Drive in
>> Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin Drive Exit).
>> Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or Highway 37 from
>> the East
>> Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last Novato
>> exit.
>> Head west.
>> Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
>> Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually from the Olema
>> Inn s lunch
>> menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this convenience, please
>> honor
>> the group
>> gratuity rate.
>> Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or iralderson at comcast.net; or
>> Marty
>> Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Clif,
>>>
>>> Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting because it's a
>>> local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the car at any of
>>> our Lotus club events.
>>>
>>> It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay listing,
>>> especially
>>> poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything useful. What
>>> I
>>> see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped out for a
>>> Weber
>>> head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum radiator,
>>> headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice, and it's got
>>> sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
>>>
>>> The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint, interior
>>> materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is not only at
>>>
>> the
>>
>>> top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this price. An
>>> earlier
>>> car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure, and of course
>>>
>> the
>>
>>> true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory now, but an
>>> S4
>>> in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe $20-25k,
>>> less
>>> if there are issues.
>>>
>>> There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring a Trailer
>>> recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active. Here's a
>>> recent BGT...
>>>http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1-**owner-**<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain-driver-1-owner-**>
>>>>
>>>
>>>  1974-mgb-gt/<http://**bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**
>>bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/bargain-driver-1-owner-1974->
>>>
>>
>> mgb-gt/>
>>
>>>
>>> And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
>>>
>>>  
>>>http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/2450180023.html<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>
>> <http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
>>
>> .org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>
>>> seems cheap.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>>>
>>>  There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale in
>>>> Oakland.
>>>> Check it out: http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**
>>>> ** <http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>
>>>>  /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_****Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<htt**
>> p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
>>
>> ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/**320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
>> Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
>> a>
>>
>>> Clif 74 JH
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>>
>>
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>> Pediatric Dentistry*
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Tue Jul  5 22:43:23 2011
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 21:43:23 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw:  Speaking of MG's
In-Reply-To: <1309923033.23264.YahooMailRC@web83601.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1309923033.23264.YahooMailRC@web83601.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4E13E7EB.4040607@sonic.net>

I had forgotten about this. I think we should cancel our meet at Bad Ass 
and join this ride. Does anyone have any objections? If not see you at 
10AM in Novato.

Ron
58 MGA

Sheryl wrote:

> I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to all...
> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127 San Marin Dr, 
> Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from home is too good 
> to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
> 
> Sheryl & Dennis
> 1976 MGB x2
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
> 
> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to open it up
> to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey along for the
> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor with NOBCC but
> each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive to the
> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
> 
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hi Marty,
>>
>>Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG medalion on
>>my Triumph?
>>
>>Michael
>>64 TR4
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
>>drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>
>>
>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
>>
>>>
>>>Summer West Marin Tour
>>>
>>>Saturday, July 9
>>>Novato
>>>
>>>Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
>>>
>>>Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West Marin, and Bud
>>>Alderson
>>>and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that. Leaving
>>>from
>>>Novato,
>>>we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over Wilson
>>>Hill,
>>>and follow
>>>the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and the Panoramic
>>>Highway
>>>(Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
>>>look-around
>>>and cheese
>>>sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning organic cheese
>>>making).
>>>(Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring the Marin
>>>area
>>>organic
>>>industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
>>>We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a stagecoach stop
>>>and
>>>gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late 1800s. Come
>>>visit with old
>>>MG friends, and make some new ones.
>>>There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have your pick: the
>>>quickest is
>>>Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy route, follow
>>>Marty
>>>back over
>>>Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view tour on
>>>Shoreline Drive
>>>(Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total driving time
>>>from
>>>Novato
>>>back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
>>>When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at 127 San Marin
>>>Drive in
>>>Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin Drive Exit).
>>>Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or Highway 37 from
>>>the East
>>>Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last Novato
>>>exit.
>>>Head west.
>>>Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
>>>Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually from the Olema
>>>Inn s lunch
>>>menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this convenience, please
>>>honor
>>>the group
>>>gratuity rate.
>>>Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or iralderson at comcast.net; or
>>>Marty
>>>Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
>>>
>>>On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Clif,
>>>
>>>>Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting because it's a
>>>>local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the car at any of
>>>>our Lotus club events.
>>>>
>>>>It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay listing,
>>>>especially
>>>>poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything useful. What
>>>>I
>>>>see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped out for a
>>>>Weber
>>>>head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum radiator,
>>>>headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice, and it's got
>>>>sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
>>>>
>>>>The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint, interior
>>>>materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is not only at
>>>>
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this price. An
>>>>earlier
>>>>car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure, and of course
>>>>
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory now, but an
>>>>S4
>>>>in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe $20-25k,
>>>>less
>>>>if there are issues.
>>>>
>>>>There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring a Trailer
>>>>recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active. Here's a
>>>>recent BGT...
>>>>http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1-**owner-**<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain-driver-1-owner-**>
>>>>
>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://**bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**
>>>
>>>bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/bargain-driver-1-owner-1974->
>>>
>>>mgb-gt/>
>>>
>>>>And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/2450180023.html<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>>
>>><http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
>>>
>>>.org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>
>>>>seems cheap.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Greg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale in
>>>>
>>>>>Oakland.
>>>>>Check it out: http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**
>>>>>** <http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>
>>>>> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_****Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<htt**
>>>
>>>p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
>>>
>>>ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/**320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
>>>Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
>>>a>
>>>
>>>>Clif 74 JH
>>>>
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From rolquinmac at me.com  Tue Jul  5 23:19:58 2011
From: rolquinmac at me.com (Roland Quintero)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 22:19:58 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw:  Speaking of MG's
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Hello Sheryl.... This is the drive I was thinking about...  

Can anyone give the timetable... I need to be in  Walnut Creek by prox 2p.m.  Is this possible...Thanks anyone.   Roland  p.s. to Nobbc...Can I give the donation to someone on that day or do I have to do it online.?????  It is about time that I do it....!!!




On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:30 PM, Sheryl wrote:

> I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to all...
> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127 San Marin Dr, 
> Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from home is too good 
> to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
> 
> Sheryl & Dennis
> 1976 MGB x2
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
> 
> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to open it up
> to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey along for the
> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor with NOBCC but
> each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive to the
> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
> 
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Marty,
>> 
>> Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG medalion on
>> my Triumph?
>> 
>> Michael
>> 64 TR4
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
>> drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>> 
>> 
>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Summer West Marin Tour
>>> 
>>> Saturday, July 9
>>> Novato
>>> 
>>> Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
>>> 
>>> Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West Marin, and Bud
>>> Alderson
>>> and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that. Leaving
>>> from
>>> Novato,
>>> we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over Wilson
>>> Hill,
>>> and follow
>>> the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and the Panoramic
>>> Highway
>>> (Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
>>> look-around
>>> and cheese
>>> sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning organic cheese
>>> making).
>>> (Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring the Marin
>>> area
>>> organic
>>> industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
>>> We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a stagecoach stop
>>> and
>>> gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late 1800s. Come
>>> visit with old
>>> MG friends, and make some new ones.
>>> There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have your pick: the
>>> quickest is
>>> Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy route, follow
>>> Marty
>>> back over
>>> Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view tour on
>>> Shoreline Drive
>>> (Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total driving time
>>> from
>>> Novato
>>> back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
>>> When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at 127 San Marin
>>> Drive in
>>> Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin Drive Exit).
>>> Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or Highway 37 from
>>> the East
>>> Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last Novato
>>> exit.
>>> Head west.
>>> Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
>>> Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually from the Olema
>>> Inn s lunch
>>> menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this convenience, please
>>> honor
>>> the group
>>> gratuity rate.
>>> Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or iralderson at comcast.net; or
>>> Marty
>>> Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Clif,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting because it's a
>>>> local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the car at any of
>>>> our Lotus club events.
>>>> 
>>>> It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay listing,
>>>> especially
>>>> poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything useful. What
>>>> I
>>>> see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped out for a
>>>> Weber
>>>> head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum radiator,
>>>> headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice, and it's got
>>>> sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
>>>> 
>>>> The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint, interior
>>>> materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is not only at
>>>> 
>>> the
>>> 
>>>> top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this price. An
>>>> earlier
>>>> car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure, and of course
>>>> 
>>> the
>>> 
>>>> true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory now, but an
>>>> S4
>>>> in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe $20-25k,
>>>> less
>>>> if there are issues.
>>>> 
>>>> There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring a Trailer
>>>> recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active. Here's a
>>>> recent BGT...
>>>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1-**owner-**<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain-driver-1-owner-**>
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://**bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**
>>> bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/bargain-driver-1-owner-1974->
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> mgb-gt/>
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/2450180023.html<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>> 
>>> <http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
>>> 
>>> .org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>> 
>>>> seems cheap.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Greg
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale in
>>>>> Oakland.
>>>>> Check it out: http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**
>>>>> ** <http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>> 
>>>>> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_****Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<htt**
>>> p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
>>> 
>>> ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/**320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
>>> Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
>>> a>
>>> 
>>>> Clif 74 JH
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *Martin Sinai Rayman, D.D.S.
>>> Pediatric Dentistry*
>>> 912 Grand Avenue, #202
>>> San Rafael, CA 94901-3538
>>> Voice: 415.459.1444
>>> FAX:   415.459.1320
>>> Website: http://www.openbigdds.com
>>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> *Martin Sinai Rayman, D.D.S.
> Pediatric Dentistry*
> 912 Grand Avenue, #202
> San Rafael, CA 94901-3538
> Voice: 415.459.1444
> FAX:   415.459.1320
> Website: http://www.openbigdds.com
> 
> *Be here now.  Be someplace else later.  Is that so complicated?
> *
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From drmartyrayman at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 07:19:55 2011
From: drmartyrayman at gmail.com (Martin Sinai Rayman)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 06:19:55 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
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Hi Roland,
I think that it would be a tight squeeze to make it to Walnut Creek by two
o'clock.  It might be possible if you continue on back directly from our Pt.
Reyes Station stop.  I can give you directions for the quickest way to 101
and the Richmond Bay Bridge from St. Reyes Sta..
Marty

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Roland Quintero <rolquinmac at me.com> wrote:

> Hello Sheryl.... This is the drive I was thinking about...
>
> Can anyone give the timetable... I need to be in  Walnut Creek by prox
> 2p.m.  Is this possible...Thanks anyone.   Roland  p.s. to Nobbc...Can I
> give the donation to someone on that day or do I have to do it online.?????
>  It is about time that I do it....!!!
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:30 PM, Sheryl wrote:
>
> > I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to all...
> > The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127 San
> Marin Dr,
> > Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
> > Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from home is too
> good
> > to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
> >
> > Sheryl & Dennis
> > 1976 MGB x2
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Forwarded Message ----
> > From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
> > To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> > Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
> > Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
> >
> > *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to open it
> up
> > to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey along for
> the
> > drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor with NOBCC
> but
> > each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive to the
> > Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
> > I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Marty,
> >>
> >> Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG medalion
> on
> >> my Triumph?
> >>
> >> Michael
> >> 64 TR4
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
> >> drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
> >> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
> >>
> >>
> >> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Summer West Marin Tour
> >>>
> >>> Saturday, July 9
> >>> Novato
> >>>
> >>> Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
> >>>
> >>> Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West Marin, and Bud
> >>> Alderson
> >>> and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that. Leaving
> >>> from
> >>> Novato,
> >>> we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over Wilson
> >>> Hill,
> >>> and follow
> >>> the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and the
> Panoramic
> >>> Highway
> >>> (Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
> >>> look-around
> >>> and cheese
> >>> sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning organic
> cheese
> >>> making).
> >>> (Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring the Marin
> >>> area
> >>> organic
> >>> industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
> >>> We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a stagecoach
> stop
> >>> and
> >>> gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late 1800s.
> Come
> >>> visit with old
> >>> MG friends, and make some new ones.
> >>> There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have your pick:
> the
> >>> quickest is
> >>> Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy route, follow
> >>> Marty
> >>> back over
> >>> Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view tour on
> >>> Shoreline Drive
> >>> (Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total driving time
> >>> from
> >>> Novato
> >>> back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
> >>> When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at 127 San
> Marin
> >>> Drive in
> >>> Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin Drive
> Exit).
> >>> Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or Highway 37
> from
> >>> the East
> >>> Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last Novato
> >>> exit.
> >>> Head west.
> >>> Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
> >>> Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually from the
> Olema
> >>> Inn s lunch
> >>> menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this convenience, please
> >>> honor
> >>> the group
> >>> gratuity rate.
> >>> Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or iralderson at comcast.net;
> or
> >>> Marty
> >>> Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Clif,
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting because it's a
> >>>> local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the car at any
> of
> >>>> our Lotus club events.
> >>>>
> >>>> It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay listing,
> >>>> especially
> >>>> poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything useful.
> What
> >>>> I
> >>>> see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped out for a
> >>>> Weber
> >>>> head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum
> radiator,
> >>>> headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice, and it's
> got
> >>>> sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
> >>>>
> >>>> The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint, interior
> >>>> materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is not only
> at
> >>>>
> >>> the
> >>>
> >>>> top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this price. An
> >>>> earlier
> >>>> car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure, and of
> course
> >>>>
> >>> the
> >>>
> >>>> true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory now, but
> an
> >>>> S4
> >>>> in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe $20-25k,
> >>>> less
> >>>> if there are issues.
> >>>>
> >>>> There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring a
> Trailer
> >>>> recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active. Here's a
> >>>> recent BGT...
> >>>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1-**owner-**<
> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain-driver-1-owner-**>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://**bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**
> >>> bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<
> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/bargain-driver-1-owner-1974->
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> mgb-gt/>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/2450180023.html<
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/2450180023.html>
> >>>>
> >>> <http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
> >>>
> >>> .org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
> >>>
> >>>> seems cheap.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Greg
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale in
> >>>>> Oakland.
> >>>>> Check it out:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**
> >>>>> ** <http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_****Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<htt**
> >>> p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
> >>>
> >>> ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/**320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
> >>> Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
> >>> a>
> >>>
> >>>> Clif 74 JH
> >>>>> ______________________________****_________________
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ______________________________****_________________
> >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From mvg1 at att.net  Wed Jul  6 11:54:43 2011
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 10:54:43 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw:  Speaking of MG's
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Message-ID: <D58D2225FCDF4DCD8BB4FA47E00C117A@mike>

Is anyone interested in attending the car show at the San Rafael yacht club? 
Or is everyone interested in the MG run, and does anyone know our 
destination>

Michael
64 TR4

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's


>I had forgotten about this. I think we should cancel our meet at Bad Ass 
>and join this ride. Does anyone have any objections? If not see you at 10AM 
>in Novato.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> Sheryl wrote:
>
>> I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to all...
>> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127 San 
>> Marin Dr, Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
>> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from home is too 
>> good to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
>>
>> Sheryl & Dennis
>> 1976 MGB x2
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
>> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>
>> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to open it 
>> up
>> to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey along for 
>> the
>> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor with NOBCC 
>> but
>> each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive to the
>> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
>> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi Marty,
>>>
>>>Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG medalion 
>>>on
>>>my Triumph?
>>>
>>>Michael
>>>64 TR4
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
>>>drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>
>>>
>>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Summer West Marin Tour
>>>>
>>>>Saturday, July 9
>>>>Novato
>>>>
>>>>Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
>>>>
>>>>Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West Marin, and Bud
>>>>Alderson
>>>>and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that. Leaving
>>>>from
>>>>Novato,
>>>>we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over Wilson
>>>>Hill,
>>>>and follow
>>>>the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and the 
>>>>Panoramic
>>>>Highway
>>>>(Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
>>>>look-around
>>>>and cheese
>>>>sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning organic cheese
>>>>making).
>>>>(Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring the Marin
>>>>area
>>>>organic
>>>>industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
>>>>We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a stagecoach 
>>>>stop
>>>>and
>>>>gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late 1800s. 
>>>>Come
>>>>visit with old
>>>>MG friends, and make some new ones.
>>>>There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have your pick: 
>>>>the
>>>>quickest is
>>>>Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy route, follow
>>>>Marty
>>>>back over
>>>>Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view tour on
>>>>Shoreline Drive
>>>>(Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total driving time
>>>>from
>>>>Novato
>>>>back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
>>>>When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at 127 San 
>>>>Marin
>>>>Drive in
>>>>Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin Drive 
>>>>Exit).
>>>>Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or Highway 37 
>>>>from
>>>>the East
>>>>Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last Novato
>>>>exit.
>>>>Head west.
>>>>Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
>>>>Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually from the 
>>>>Olema
>>>>Inn s lunch
>>>>menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this convenience, please
>>>>honor
>>>>the group
>>>>gratuity rate.
>>>>Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or iralderson at comcast.net; 
>>>>or
>>>>Marty
>>>>Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
>>>>
>>>>On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Clif,
>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting because it's a
>>>>>local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the car at any 
>>>>>of
>>>>>our Lotus club events.
>>>>>
>>>>>It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay listing,
>>>>>especially
>>>>>poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything useful. 
>>>>>What
>>>>>I
>>>>>see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped out for a
>>>>>Weber
>>>>>head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum radiator,
>>>>>headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice, and it's 
>>>>>got
>>>>>sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
>>>>>
>>>>>The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint, interior
>>>>>materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is not only 
>>>>>at
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this price. An
>>>>>earlier
>>>>>car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure, and of 
>>>>>course
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory now, but an
>>>>>S4
>>>>>in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe $20-25k,
>>>>>less
>>>>>if there are issues.
>>>>>
>>>>>There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring a Trailer
>>>>>recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active. Here's a
>>>>>recent BGT...
>>>>>http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1-**owner-**<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain-driver-1-owner-**>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://**bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**
>>>>
>>>>bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/bargain-driver-1-owner-1974->
>>>>
>>>>mgb-gt/>
>>>>
>>>>>And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/2450180023.html<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>>>
>>>><http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
>>>>
>>>>.org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>>
>>>>>seems cheap.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Greg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale in
>>>>>
>>>>>>Oakland.
>>>>>>Check it out: http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**
>>>>>>** <http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_****Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<htt**
>>>>
>>>>p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
>>>>
>>>>ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/**320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
>>>>Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
>>>>a>
>>>>
>>>>>Clif 74 JH
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>*Martin Sinai Rayman, D.D.S.
>>>>Pediatric Dentistry*
>>>>912 Grand Avenue, #202
>>>>San Rafael, CA 94901-3538
>>>>Voice: 415.459.1444
>>>>FAX:   415.459.1320
>>>>Website: http://www.openbigdds.com
>>>>
>>>>*Be here now.  Be someplace else later.  Is that so complicated?
>>>>*
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>>>>and
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>>>>any
>>>>use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is
>>>>strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error,
>>>>please immediately notify the sender by telephone or e-mail, and
>>>>permanently
>>>>delete all copies, electronic or other, you may have. The foregoing
>>>>applies
>>>>even if this notice is embedded in a message that is forwarded or
>>>>attached.
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From morrisf at SIDWater.org  Wed Jul  6 12:14:32 2011
From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 11:14:32 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw:  Speaking of MG's
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Yes on the San Rafael Yacht Club event for me.  We covered Inverness and
oysters fairly well last weekend in the MGB.

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:55 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's

Is anyone interested in attending the car show at the San Rafael yacht
club?
Or is everyone interested in the MG run, and does anyone know our
destination>

Michael
64 TR4

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's


>I had forgotten about this. I think we should cancel our meet at Bad
Ass
>and join this ride. Does anyone have any objections? If not see you at
10AM
>in Novato.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> Sheryl wrote:
>
>> I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to all...
>> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127 San
>> Marin Dr, Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
>> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from home is
too
>> good to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
>>
>> Sheryl & Dennis
>> 1976 MGB x2
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
>> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>
>> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to open
it
>> up
>> to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey along
for
>> the
>> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor with
NOBCC
>> but
>> each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive to
the
>> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
>> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net>
wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi Marty,
>>>
>>>Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG
medalion
>>>on
>>>my Triumph?
>>>
>>>Michael
>>>64 TR4
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
>>>drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>
>>>
>>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Summer West Marin Tour
>>>>
>>>>Saturday, July 9
>>>>Novato
>>>>
>>>>Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
>>>>
>>>>Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West Marin, and
Bud
>>>>Alderson
>>>>and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that.
Leaving
>>>>from
>>>>Novato,
>>>>we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over
Wilson
>>>>Hill,
>>>>and follow
>>>>the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and the
>>>>Panoramic
>>>>Highway
>>>>(Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
>>>>look-around
>>>>and cheese
>>>>sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning organic
cheese
>>>>making).
>>>>(Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring the
Marin
>>>>area
>>>>organic
>>>>industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
>>>>We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a stagecoach

>>>>stop
>>>>and
>>>>gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late
1800s.
>>>>Come
>>>>visit with old
>>>>MG friends, and make some new ones.
>>>>There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have your
pick:
>>>>the
>>>>quickest is
>>>>Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy route,
follow
>>>>Marty
>>>>back over
>>>>Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view tour
on
>>>>Shoreline Drive
>>>>(Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total driving
time
>>>>from
>>>>Novato
>>>>back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
>>>>When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at 127 San

>>>>Marin
>>>>Drive in
>>>>Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin Drive
>>>>Exit).
>>>>Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or Highway
37
>>>>from
>>>>the East
>>>>Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last
Novato
>>>>exit.
>>>>Head west.
>>>>Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
>>>>Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually from the

>>>>Olema
>>>>Inn s lunch
>>>>menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this convenience,
please
>>>>honor
>>>>the group
>>>>gratuity rate.
>>>>Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or
iralderson at comcast.net;
>>>>or
>>>>Marty
>>>>Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
>>>>
>>>>On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Clif,
>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting because
it's a
>>>>>local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the car at
any
>>>>>of
>>>>>our Lotus club events.
>>>>>
>>>>>It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay listing,
>>>>>especially
>>>>>poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything
useful.
>>>>>What
>>>>>I
>>>>>see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped out for
a
>>>>>Weber
>>>>>head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum
radiator,
>>>>>headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice, and
it's
>>>>>got
>>>>>sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
>>>>>
>>>>>The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint, interior
>>>>>materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is not
only
>>>>>at
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this price. An
>>>>>earlier
>>>>>car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure, and of
>>>>>course
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory now,
but an
>>>>>S4
>>>>>in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe
$20-25k,
>>>>>less
>>>>>if there are issues.
>>>>>
>>>>>There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring a
Trailer
>>>>>recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active.
Here's a
>>>>>recent BGT...
>>>>>http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1-**owner-**
<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain-driver-1-owner-**>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://**bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**
>>>>
>>>>bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/bar
gain-driver-1-owner-1974->
>>>>
>>>>mgb-gt/>
>>>>
>>>>>And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
>>>>>
>>>>>
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/2450180023.html<http://sfbay.cra
igslist.org/**sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>>>
>>>><http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
>>>>
>>>>.org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>>
>>>>>seems cheap.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Greg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale in
>>>>>
>>>>>>Oakland.
>>>>>>Check it out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**
>>>>>>** <http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_****Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<htt**
>>>>
>>>>p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
>>>>
>>>>ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/**320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
>>>>Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
>>>>a>
>>>>
>>>>>Clif 74 JH
>>>>>
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From andrewdoran at berkeley.edu  Wed Jul  6 14:53:38 2011
From: andrewdoran at berkeley.edu (Andrew S. Doran)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 13:53:38 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw:  Speaking of MG's
In-Reply-To: <D58D2225FCDF4DCD8BB4FA47E00C117A@mike>
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	<4E13E7EB.4040607@sonic.net> <D58D2225FCDF4DCD8BB4FA47E00C117A@mike>
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Mike,

I would like to do the Novato ride but am worried I'm going to be the only
Triumph there!

Since I live just across the San Rafael bridge both are tempting.

Andrew


> Is anyone interested in attending the car show at the San Rafael yacht
> club?
> Or is everyone interested in the MG run, and does anyone know our
> destination>
>
> Michael
> 64 TR4
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>
>
>>I had forgotten about this. I think we should cancel our meet at Bad Ass
>>and join this ride. Does anyone have any objections? If not see you at
>> 10AM
>>in Novato.
>>
>> Ron
>> 58 MGA
>>
>> Sheryl wrote:
>>
>>> I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to all...
>>> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127 San
>>> Marin Dr, Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
>>> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from home is
>>> too
>>> good to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
>>>
>>> Sheryl & Dennis
>>> 1976 MGB x2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>>> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
>>> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>
>>> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to open it
>>> up
>>> to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey along for
>>> the
>>> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor with NOBCC
>>> but
>>> each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive to the
>>> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
>>> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Marty,
>>>>
>>>>Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG
>>>> medalion
>>>>on
>>>>my Triumph?
>>>>
>>>>Michael
>>>>64 TR4
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
>>>>drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>>To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Summer West Marin Tour
>>>>>
>>>>>Saturday, July 9
>>>>>Novato
>>>>>
>>>>>Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
>>>>>
>>>>>Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West Marin, and
>>>>> Bud
>>>>>Alderson
>>>>>and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that. Leaving
>>>>>from
>>>>>Novato,
>>>>>we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over Wilson
>>>>>Hill,
>>>>>and follow
>>>>>the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and the
>>>>>Panoramic
>>>>>Highway
>>>>>(Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
>>>>>look-around
>>>>>and cheese
>>>>>sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning organic
>>>>> cheese
>>>>>making).
>>>>>(Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring the Marin
>>>>>area
>>>>>organic
>>>>>industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
>>>>>We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a stagecoach
>>>>>stop
>>>>>and
>>>>>gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late 1800s.
>>>>>Come
>>>>>visit with old
>>>>>MG friends, and make some new ones.
>>>>>There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have your pick:
>>>>>the
>>>>>quickest is
>>>>>Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy route, follow
>>>>>Marty
>>>>>back over
>>>>>Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view tour on
>>>>>Shoreline Drive
>>>>>(Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total driving time
>>>>>from
>>>>>Novato
>>>>>back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
>>>>>When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at 127 San
>>>>>Marin
>>>>>Drive in
>>>>>Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin Drive
>>>>>Exit).
>>>>>Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or Highway 37
>>>>>from
>>>>>the East
>>>>>Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last Novato
>>>>>exit.
>>>>>Head west.
>>>>>Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
>>>>>Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually from the
>>>>>Olema
>>>>>Inn s lunch
>>>>>menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this convenience, please
>>>>>honor
>>>>>the group
>>>>>gratuity rate.
>>>>>Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or iralderson at comcast.net;
>>>>>or
>>>>>Marty
>>>>>Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
>>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Clif,
>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting because it's
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the car at
>>>>>> any
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>our Lotus club events.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay listing,
>>>>>>especially
>>>>>>poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything useful.
>>>>>>What
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped out for a
>>>>>>Weber
>>>>>>head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum
>>>>>> radiator,
>>>>>>headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice, and it's
>>>>>>got
>>>>>>sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint, interior
>>>>>>materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is not only
>>>>>>at
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this price. An
>>>>>>earlier
>>>>>>car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure, and of
>>>>>>course
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory now, but
>>>>>> an
>>>>>>S4
>>>>>>in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe $20-25k,
>>>>>>less
>>>>>>if there are issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring a
>>>>>> Trailer
>>>>>>recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active. Here's
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>recent BGT...
>>>>>>http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1-**owner-**<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain-driver-1-owner-**>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://**bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**
>>>>>
>>>>>bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/bargain-driver-1-owner-1974->
>>>>>
>>>>>mgb-gt/>
>>>>>
>>>>>>And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/2450180023.html<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>><http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
>>>>>
>>>>>.org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>>>
>>>>>>seems cheap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>Greg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Oakland.
>>>>>>>Check it out:
>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**
>>>>>>>** <http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_****Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<htt**
>>>>>
>>>>>p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
>>>>>
>>>>>ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/**320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
>>>>>Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
>>>>>a>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Clif 74 JH
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>*Martin Sinai Rayman, D.D.S.
>>>>>Pediatric Dentistry*
>>>>>912 Grand Avenue, #202
>>>>>San Rafael, CA 94901-3538
>>>>>Voice: 415.459.1444
>>>>>FAX:   415.459.1320
>>>>>Website: http://www.openbigdds.com
>>>>>
>>>>>*Be here now.  Be someplace else later.  Is that so complicated?
>>>>>*
>>>>>NOTICE: This communication, including any attachments, is confidential
>>>>>and
>>>>>may be protected by privilege. If you are not the intended recipient,
>>>>>any
>>>>>use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is
>>>>>strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error,
>>>>>please immediately notify the sender by telephone or e-mail, and
>>>>>permanently
>>>>>delete all copies, electronic or other, you may have. The foregoing
>>>>>applies
>>>>>even if this notice is embedded in a message that is forwarded or
>>>>>attached.
>>>>>______________________________**_________________
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From wbain at sonic.net  Wed Jul  6 15:32:23 2011
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 14:32:23 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw:  Speaking of MG's
In-Reply-To: <24f686c6218ed6b6d21d6485a546e772.squirrel@calmail.berkeley.edu>
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	<4E13E7EB.4040607@sonic.net> <D58D2225FCDF4DCD8BB4FA47E00C117A@mike>
	<24f686c6218ed6b6d21d6485a546e772.squirrel@calmail.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID: <4ACD9455-5948-4F88-9A4C-6E7BE689EBAE@sonic.net>

Andrew,

They already accepted Mike's TR-4 and my Morgan. You should fit right
in.

Wendell

On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Andrew S. Doran wrote:

> Mike,
>
> I would like to do the Novato ride but am worried I'm going to be  
> the only
> Triumph there!
>
> Since I live just across the San Rafael bridge both are tempting.
>
> Andrew
>
>
>> Is anyone interested in attending the car show at the San Rafael  
>> yacht
>> club?
>> Or is everyone interested in the MG run, and does anyone know our
>> destination>
>>
>> Michael
>> 64 TR4
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>>
>>
>>> I had forgotten about this. I think we should cancel our meet at  
>>> Bad Ass
>>> and join this ride. Does anyone have any objections? If not see  
>>> you at
>>> 10AM
>>> in Novato.
>>>
>>> Ron
>>> 58 MGA
>>>
>>> Sheryl wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to all...
>>>> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127  
>>>> San
>>>> Marin Dr, Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
>>>> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from  
>>>> home is
>>>> too
>>>> good to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
>>>>
>>>> Sheryl & Dennis
>>>> 1976 MGB x2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>>>> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
>>>> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>
>>>> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to  
>>>> open it
>>>> up
>>>> to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey  
>>>> along for
>>>> the
>>>> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor  
>>>> with NOBCC
>>>> but
>>>> each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive  
>>>> to the
>>>> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
>>>> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net>  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Marty,
>>>>>
>>>>> Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG
>>>>> medalion
>>>>> on
>>>>> my Triumph?
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael
>>>>> 64 TR4
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
>>>>> drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Summer West Marin Tour
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saturday, July 9
>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West  
>>>>>> Marin, and
>>>>>> Bud
>>>>>> Alderson
>>>>>> and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that.  
>>>>>> Leaving
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> Novato,
>>>>>> we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over  
>>>>>> Wilson
>>>>>> Hill,
>>>>>> and follow
>>>>>> the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and the
>>>>>> Panoramic
>>>>>> Highway
>>>>>> (Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
>>>>>> look-around
>>>>>> and cheese
>>>>>> sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning organic
>>>>>> cheese
>>>>>> making).
>>>>>> (Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring  
>>>>>> the Marin
>>>>>> area
>>>>>> organic
>>>>>> industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
>>>>>> We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a  
>>>>>> stagecoach
>>>>>> stop
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late  
>>>>>> 1800s.
>>>>>> Come
>>>>>> visit with old
>>>>>> MG friends, and make some new ones.
>>>>>> There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have  
>>>>>> your pick:
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> quickest is
>>>>>> Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy  
>>>>>> route, follow
>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>> back over
>>>>>> Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view  
>>>>>> tour on
>>>>>> Shoreline Drive
>>>>>> (Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total  
>>>>>> driving time
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>> back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
>>>>>> When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at  
>>>>>> 127 San
>>>>>> Marin
>>>>>> Drive in
>>>>>> Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin  
>>>>>> Drive
>>>>>> Exit).
>>>>>> Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or  
>>>>>> Highway 37
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> the East
>>>>>> Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last  
>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>> exit.
>>>>>> Head west.
>>>>>> Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
>>>>>> Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually  
>>>>>> from the
>>>>>> Olema
>>>>>> Inn s lunch
>>>>>> menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this  
>>>>>> convenience, please
>>>>>> honor
>>>>>> the group
>>>>>> gratuity rate.
>>>>>> Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or  
>>>>>> iralderson at comcast.net;
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>> Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian  
>>>>>> <gtwincams at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Clif,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting  
>>>>>>> because it's
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the  
>>>>>>> car at
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> our Lotus club events.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay listing,
>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>> poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything  
>>>>>>> useful.
>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped  
>>>>>>> out for a
>>>>>>> Weber
>>>>>>> head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum
>>>>>>> radiator,
>>>>>>> headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice,  
>>>>>>> and it's
>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>> sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint,  
>>>>>>> interior
>>>>>>> materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is  
>>>>>>> not only
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this  
>>>>>>> price. An
>>>>>>> earlier
>>>>>>> car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure,  
>>>>>>> and of
>>>>>>> course
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory  
>>>>>>> now, but
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> S4
>>>>>>> in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe  
>>>>>>> $20-25k,
>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>> if there are issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring a
>>>>>>> Trailer
>>>>>>> recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active.  
>>>>>>> Here's
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> recent BGT...
>>>>>>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1- 
>>>>>>> **owner-**<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain- 
>>>>>>> driver-1-owner-**>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://**bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<http://bringatrailer.com/ 
>>>>>> 2011/06/13/bargain-driver-1-owner-1974->
>>>>>>
>>>>>> mgb-gt/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/ 
>>>>>>> 2450180023.html<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/ 
>>>>>>> 2450180023.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> seems cheap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oakland.
>>>>>>>> Check it out:
>>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**
>>>>>>>> ** <http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_****Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<htt**
>>>>>>
>>>>>> p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/**320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
>>>>>> Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
>>>>>> a>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Clif 74 JH
>>>>>>>
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From drmartyrayman at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 16:05:13 2011
From: drmartyrayman at gmail.com (Martin Sinai Rayman)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 15:05:13 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
In-Reply-To: <D58D2225FCDF4DCD8BB4FA47E00C117A@mike>
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Michael,
The Sorry Safari/MGOC MG car run is outlined in a prior e mail.
If people are coming for lunch at the Olema Inn, we
(martyraymangmail.comand Bud Alderson
ralderson at comcast.net) would like to know so the Inn can be prepared.
Thanks,
Marty
'53 MG TD

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net> wrote:

> Is anyone interested in attending the car show at the San Rafael yacht
> club? Or is everyone interested in the MG run, and does anyone know our
> destination>
>
> Michael
> 64 TR4
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>
>
>  I had forgotten about this. I think we should cancel our meet at Bad Ass
>> and join this ride. Does anyone have any objections? If not see you at 10AM
>> in Novato.
>>
>> Ron
>> 58 MGA
>>
>>
>> Sheryl wrote:
>>
>>  I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to all...
>>> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127 San
>>> Marin Dr, Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
>>> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from home is too
>>> good to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
>>>
>>> Sheryl & Dennis
>>> 1976 MGB x2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>>> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
>>> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>
>>> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to open it
>>> up
>>> to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey along for
>>> the
>>> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor with NOBCC
>>> but
>>> each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive to the
>>> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
>>> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  Hi Marty,
>>>>
>>>> Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG medalion
>>>> on
>>>> my Triumph?
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>> 64 TR4
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
>>>> drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Summer West Marin Tour
>>>>>
>>>>> Saturday, July 9
>>>>> Novato
>>>>>
>>>>> Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
>>>>>
>>>>> Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West Marin, and Bud
>>>>> Alderson
>>>>> and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that. Leaving
>>>>> from
>>>>> Novato,
>>>>> we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over Wilson
>>>>> Hill,
>>>>> and follow
>>>>> the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and the
>>>>> Panoramic
>>>>> Highway
>>>>> (Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
>>>>> look-around
>>>>> and cheese
>>>>> sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning organic
>>>>> cheese
>>>>> making).
>>>>> (Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring the Marin
>>>>> area
>>>>> organic
>>>>> industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
>>>>> We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a stagecoach
>>>>> stop
>>>>> and
>>>>> gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late 1800s.
>>>>> Come
>>>>> visit with old
>>>>> MG friends, and make some new ones.
>>>>> There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have your pick:
>>>>> the
>>>>> quickest is
>>>>> Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy route, follow
>>>>> Marty
>>>>> back over
>>>>> Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view tour on
>>>>> Shoreline Drive
>>>>> (Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total driving time
>>>>> from
>>>>> Novato
>>>>> back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
>>>>> When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at 127 San
>>>>> Marin
>>>>> Drive in
>>>>> Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin Drive
>>>>> Exit).
>>>>> Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or Highway 37
>>>>> from
>>>>> the East
>>>>> Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last Novato
>>>>> exit.
>>>>> Head west.
>>>>> Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
>>>>> Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually from the
>>>>> Olema
>>>>> Inn s lunch
>>>>> menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this convenience, please
>>>>> honor
>>>>> the group
>>>>> gratuity rate.
>>>>> Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or iralderson at comcast.net;
>>>>> or
>>>>> Marty
>>>>> Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Clif,
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting because it's a
>>>>>> local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the car at any
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> our Lotus club events.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay listing,
>>>>>> especially
>>>>>> poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything useful.
>>>>>> What
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped out for a
>>>>>> Weber
>>>>>> head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum
>>>>>> radiator,
>>>>>> headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice, and it's
>>>>>> got
>>>>>> sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint, interior
>>>>>> materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is not only
>>>>>> at
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this price. An
>>>>>> earlier
>>>>>> car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure, and of
>>>>>> course
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory now, but
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> S4
>>>>>> in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe $20-25k,
>>>>>> less
>>>>>> if there are issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring a
>>>>>> Trailer
>>>>>> recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active. Here's a
>>>>>> recent BGT...
>>>>>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/******06/13/bargain-driver-1-****
>>>>>> owner-**<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1-**owner-**>
>>>>>> <http://bringatrailer.**com/2011/**06/13/bargain-**driver-1-owner-**<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain-driver-1-owner-**>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://**bringatr**ailer.com/2011/06/13/**<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<h**ttp://bringatrailer.com/2011/**
>>>>> 06/13/bargain-driver-1-owner-**1974-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/bargain-driver-1-owner-1974->
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> mgb-gt/>
>>>>>
>>>>>  And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/******sby/cto/2450180023.html<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>>>> <http**://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/**cto/2450180023.html<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  <http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
>>>>>
>>>>> .org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>>>
>>>>>  seems cheap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Oakland.
>>>>>>> Check it out: http://cgi.ebay.com/******
>>>>>>> ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>> ** <http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_******Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<**htt**
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
>>>>>
>>>>> ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/****320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
>>>>> Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
>>>>> a>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Clif 74 JH
>>>>>>
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Wed Jul  6 16:11:39 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 15:11:39 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw:  Speaking of MG's
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What about our Jensen Healey?
Clif and Deb

-----Original Message----- 
From: wendell bain
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:32 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's

Andrew,

They already accepted Mike's TR-4 and my Morgan. You should fit right
in.

Wendell

On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Andrew S. Doran wrote:

> Mike,
>
> I would like to do the Novato ride but am worried I'm going to be  the 
> only
> Triumph there!
>
> Since I live just across the San Rafael bridge both are tempting.
>
> Andrew
>
>
>> Is anyone interested in attending the car show at the San Rafael  yacht
>> club?
>> Or is everyone interested in the MG run, and does anyone know our
>> destination>
>>
>> Michael
>> 64 TR4
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>>
>>
>>> I had forgotten about this. I think we should cancel our meet at  Bad 
>>> Ass
>>> and join this ride. Does anyone have any objections? If not see  you at
>>> 10AM
>>> in Novato.
>>>
>>> Ron
>>> 58 MGA
>>>
>>> Sheryl wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to all...
>>>> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127  San
>>>> Marin Dr, Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
>>>> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from  home is
>>>> too
>>>> good to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
>>>>
>>>> Sheryl & Dennis
>>>> 1976 MGB x2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>>>> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
>>>> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>
>>>> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to  open 
>>>> it
>>>> up
>>>> to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey  along 
>>>> for
>>>> the
>>>> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor  with 
>>>> NOBCC
>>>> but
>>>> each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive  to 
>>>> the
>>>> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
>>>> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Marty,
>>>>>
>>>>> Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG
>>>>> medalion
>>>>> on
>>>>> my Triumph?
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael
>>>>> 64 TR4
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
>>>>> drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Summer West Marin Tour
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saturday, July 9
>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West  Marin, and
>>>>>> Bud
>>>>>> Alderson
>>>>>> and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that. 
>>>>>> Leaving
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> Novato,
>>>>>> we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over 
>>>>>> Wilson
>>>>>> Hill,
>>>>>> and follow
>>>>>> the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and the
>>>>>> Panoramic
>>>>>> Highway
>>>>>> (Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
>>>>>> look-around
>>>>>> and cheese
>>>>>> sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning organic
>>>>>> cheese
>>>>>> making).
>>>>>> (Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring  the 
>>>>>> Marin
>>>>>> area
>>>>>> organic
>>>>>> industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
>>>>>> We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a  stagecoach
>>>>>> stop
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late 
>>>>>> 1800s.
>>>>>> Come
>>>>>> visit with old
>>>>>> MG friends, and make some new ones.
>>>>>> There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have  your 
>>>>>> pick:
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> quickest is
>>>>>> Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy  route, 
>>>>>> follow
>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>> back over
>>>>>> Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view  tour 
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> Shoreline Drive
>>>>>> (Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total  driving 
>>>>>> time
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>> back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
>>>>>> When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at  127 San
>>>>>> Marin
>>>>>> Drive in
>>>>>> Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin  Drive
>>>>>> Exit).
>>>>>> Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or  Highway 
>>>>>> 37
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> the East
>>>>>> Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last 
>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>> exit.
>>>>>> Head west.
>>>>>> Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
>>>>>> Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually  from the
>>>>>> Olema
>>>>>> Inn s lunch
>>>>>> menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this  convenience, 
>>>>>> please
>>>>>> honor
>>>>>> the group
>>>>>> gratuity rate.
>>>>>> Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or 
>>>>>> iralderson at comcast.net;
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>> Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian  <gtwincams at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Clif,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting  because 
>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the  car at
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> our Lotus club events.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay listing,
>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>> poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything 
>>>>>>> useful.
>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped  out for 
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> Weber
>>>>>>> head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum
>>>>>>> radiator,
>>>>>>> headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice,  and 
>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>> sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint,  interior
>>>>>>> materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is  not 
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this  price. An
>>>>>>> earlier
>>>>>>> car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure,  and of
>>>>>>> course
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory  now, 
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> S4
>>>>>>> in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe 
>>>>>>> $20-25k,
>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>> if there are issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring a
>>>>>>> Trailer
>>>>>>> recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active. 
>>>>>>> Here's
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> recent BGT...
>>>>>>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1- 
>>>>>>> **owner-**<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain- 
>>>>>>> driver-1-owner-**>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://**bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<http://bringatrailer.com/ 
>>>>>> 2011/06/13/bargain-driver-1-owner-1974->
>>>>>>
>>>>>> mgb-gt/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/ 
>>>>>>> 2450180023.html<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/ 
>>>>>>> 2450180023.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> seems cheap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oakland.
>>>>>>>> Check it out:
>>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**
>>>>>>>> ** <http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_****Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<htt**
>>>>>>
>>>>>> p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/**320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
>>>>>> Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
>>>>>> a>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Clif 74 JH
>>>>>>>
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From drmartyrayman at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 16:39:51 2011
From: drmartyrayman at gmail.com (Martin Sinai Rayman)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 15:39:51 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
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The more British diversity, the merrier!  Let us know officially if you will
be joining in so we can be prepared. Thanks.  Marty & Bud

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson <
hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:

> What about our Jensen Healey?
> Clif and Deb
>
> -----Original Message----- From: wendell bain
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:32 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>
> Andrew,
>
> They already accepted Mike's TR-4 and my Morgan. You should fit right
> in.
>
> Wendell
>
> On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Andrew S. Doran wrote:
>
>  Mike,
>>
>> I would like to do the Novato ride but am worried I'm going to be  the
>> only
>> Triumph there!
>>
>> Since I live just across the San Rafael bridge both are tempting.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>  Is anyone interested in attending the car show at the San Rafael  yacht
>>> club?
>>> Or is everyone interested in the MG run, and does anyone know our
>>> destination>
>>>
>>> Michael
>>> 64 TR4
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:43 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>>>
>>>
>>>  I had forgotten about this. I think we should cancel our meet at  Bad
>>>> Ass
>>>> and join this ride. Does anyone have any objections? If not see  you at
>>>> 10AM
>>>> in Novato.
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>> 58 MGA
>>>>
>>>> Sheryl wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to all...
>>>>> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127  San
>>>>> Marin Dr, Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
>>>>> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from  home is
>>>>> too
>>>>> good to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sheryl & Dennis
>>>>> 1976 MGB x2
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>>>>> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
>>>>> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>>
>>>>> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to  open
>>>>> it
>>>>> up
>>>>> to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey  along
>>>>> for
>>>>> the
>>>>> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor  with
>>>>> NOBCC
>>>>> but
>>>>> each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive  to
>>>>> the
>>>>> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
>>>>> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hi Marty,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG
>>>>>> medalion
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> my Triumph?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>> 64 TR4
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
>>>>>> drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Summer West Marin Tour
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saturday, July 9
>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West  Marin, and
>>>>>>> Bud
>>>>>>> Alderson
>>>>>>> and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that.
>>>>>>> Leaving
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> Novato,
>>>>>>> we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over Wilson
>>>>>>> Hill,
>>>>>>> and follow
>>>>>>> the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and the
>>>>>>> Panoramic
>>>>>>> Highway
>>>>>>> (Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
>>>>>>> look-around
>>>>>>> and cheese
>>>>>>> sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning organic
>>>>>>> cheese
>>>>>>> making).
>>>>>>> (Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring  the
>>>>>>> Marin
>>>>>>> area
>>>>>>> organic
>>>>>>> industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
>>>>>>> We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a  stagecoach
>>>>>>> stop
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late 1800s.
>>>>>>> Come
>>>>>>> visit with old
>>>>>>> MG friends, and make some new ones.
>>>>>>> There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have  your
>>>>>>> pick:
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> quickest is
>>>>>>> Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy  route,
>>>>>>> follow
>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>> back over
>>>>>>> Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view  tour
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> Shoreline Drive
>>>>>>> (Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total  driving
>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>> back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
>>>>>>> When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at  127 San
>>>>>>> Marin
>>>>>>> Drive in
>>>>>>> Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin  Drive
>>>>>>> Exit).
>>>>>>> Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or  Highway
>>>>>>> 37
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> the East
>>>>>>> Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last Novato
>>>>>>> exit.
>>>>>>> Head west.
>>>>>>> Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
>>>>>>> Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually  from the
>>>>>>> Olema
>>>>>>> Inn s lunch
>>>>>>> menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this  convenience,
>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>> honor
>>>>>>> the group
>>>>>>> gratuity rate.
>>>>>>> Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or
>>>>>>> iralderson at comcast.net;
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>> Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian  <gtwincams at gmail.com
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Clif,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting  because
>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the  car at
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> our Lotus club events.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay listing,
>>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>> poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything useful.
>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped  out for
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> Weber
>>>>>>>> head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum
>>>>>>>> radiator,
>>>>>>>> headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice,  and
>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>> sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint,  interior
>>>>>>>> materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is  not
>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this  price. An
>>>>>>>> earlier
>>>>>>>> car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure,  and of
>>>>>>>> course
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory  now,
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> S4
>>>>>>>> in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe
>>>>>>>> $20-25k,
>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>> if there are issues.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring a
>>>>>>>> Trailer
>>>>>>>> recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active. Here's
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> recent BGT...
>>>>>>>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/******06/13/bargain-driver-1-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1->**owner-**<
>>>>>>>> http://**bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/**13/bargain-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain->driver-1-owner-**>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://**bringatr**ailer.com/2011/06/13/**<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<h**ttp://bringatrailer.com/<http://bringatrailer.com/>2011/06/13/bargain-driver-1-
>>>>>>> **owner-1974->
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mgb-gt/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/******sby/cto/<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/>2450180023.html<
>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.**craigslist.org/**sby/cto/<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/>2450180023.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  <http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> .org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  seems cheap.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Oakland.
>>>>>>>>> Check it out:
>>>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/******ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>>>> ** <http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_******Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<**htt**
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/****320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
>>>>>>> Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
>>>>>>> a>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Clif 74 JH
>>>>>>>>
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 16:50:20 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (gtwincams at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 22:50:20 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw:  Speaking of MG's
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Hi Clif and Deb,
It is my understanding that the gracious invitation is to all NOBBC members, not just those of us who have MGs.
Cheers,
Greg Tatarian

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From drmartyrayman at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 17:38:23 2011
From: drmartyrayman at gmail.com (Martin Sinai Rayman)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 16:38:23 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
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Truly.
Marty

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:50 PM, <gtwincams at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Clif and Deb,
> It is my understanding that the gracious invitation is to all NOBBC
> members, not just those of us who have MGs.
> Cheers,
> Greg Tatarian
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From andrewdoran at berkeley.edu  Wed Jul  6 20:23:45 2011
From: andrewdoran at berkeley.edu (Andrew S. Doran)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 19:23:45 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
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Andy, '79 Triumph Spitfire will be there.


> The more British diversity, the merrier!  Let us know officially if you
> will
> be joining in so we can be prepared. Thanks.  Marty & Bud
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson <
> hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> What about our Jensen Healey?
>> Clif and Deb
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: wendell bain
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:32 PM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>>
>> Andrew,
>>
>> They already accepted Mike's TR-4 and my Morgan. You should fit right
>> in.
>>
>> Wendell
>>
>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Andrew S. Doran wrote:
>>
>>  Mike,
>>>
>>> I would like to do the Novato ride but am worried I'm going to be  the
>>> only
>>> Triumph there!
>>>
>>> Since I live just across the San Rafael bridge both are tempting.
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>  Is anyone interested in attending the car show at the San Rafael
>>> yacht
>>>> club?
>>>> Or is everyone interested in the MG run, and does anyone know our
>>>> destination>
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>> 64 TR4
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:43 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I had forgotten about this. I think we should cancel our meet at  Bad
>>>>> Ass
>>>>> and join this ride. Does anyone have any objections? If not see  you
>>>>> at
>>>>> 10AM
>>>>> in Novato.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron
>>>>> 58 MGA
>>>>>
>>>>> Sheryl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to all...
>>>>>> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127
>>>>>> San
>>>>>> Marin Dr, Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
>>>>>> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from  home
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> too
>>>>>> good to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sheryl & Dennis
>>>>>> 1976 MGB x2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>>>>>> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>>> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to
>>>>>> open
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey  along
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor  with
>>>>>> NOBCC
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive  to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
>>>>>> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net>
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hi Marty,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG
>>>>>>> medalion
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> my Triumph?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>> 64 TR4
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
>>>>>>> drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Summer West Marin Tour
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Saturday, July 9
>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West  Marin,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> Bud
>>>>>>>> Alderson
>>>>>>>> and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that.
>>>>>>>> Leaving
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> Novato,
>>>>>>>> we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over
>>>>>>>> Wilson
>>>>>>>> Hill,
>>>>>>>> and follow
>>>>>>>> the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and the
>>>>>>>> Panoramic
>>>>>>>> Highway
>>>>>>>> (Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
>>>>>>>> look-around
>>>>>>>> and cheese
>>>>>>>> sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning organic
>>>>>>>> cheese
>>>>>>>> making).
>>>>>>>> (Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring  the
>>>>>>>> Marin
>>>>>>>> area
>>>>>>>> organic
>>>>>>>> industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
>>>>>>>> We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a
>>>>>>>> stagecoach
>>>>>>>> stop
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late
>>>>>>>> 1800s.
>>>>>>>> Come
>>>>>>>> visit with old
>>>>>>>> MG friends, and make some new ones.
>>>>>>>> There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have  your
>>>>>>>> pick:
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> quickest is
>>>>>>>> Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy  route,
>>>>>>>> follow
>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>> back over
>>>>>>>> Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view
>>>>>>>> tour
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> Shoreline Drive
>>>>>>>> (Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total  driving
>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>> back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
>>>>>>>> When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at  127
>>>>>>>> San
>>>>>>>> Marin
>>>>>>>> Drive in
>>>>>>>> Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin
>>>>>>>> Drive
>>>>>>>> Exit).
>>>>>>>> Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or
>>>>>>>> Highway
>>>>>>>> 37
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> the East
>>>>>>>> Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last
>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>> exit.
>>>>>>>> Head west.
>>>>>>>> Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
>>>>>>>> Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually  from
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Olema
>>>>>>>> Inn s lunch
>>>>>>>> menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this  convenience,
>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>> honor
>>>>>>>> the group
>>>>>>>> gratuity rate.
>>>>>>>> Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or
>>>>>>>> iralderson at comcast.net;
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>> Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian
>>>>>>>> <gtwincams at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Clif,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting  because
>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the  car
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> our Lotus club events.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay listing,
>>>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>>> poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything
>>>>>>>>> useful.
>>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped  out
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> Weber
>>>>>>>>> head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum
>>>>>>>>> radiator,
>>>>>>>>> headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice,  and
>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>> sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint,
>>>>>>>>> interior
>>>>>>>>> materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is  not
>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this  price.
>>>>>>>> An
>>>>>>>>> earlier
>>>>>>>>> car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure,  and
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> course
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory  now,
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>> S4
>>>>>>>>> in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe
>>>>>>>>> $20-25k,
>>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>> if there are issues.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring a
>>>>>>>>> Trailer
>>>>>>>>> recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active.
>>>>>>>>> Here's
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> recent BGT...
>>>>>>>>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/******06/13/bargain-driver-1-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1->**owner-**<
>>>>>>>>> http://**bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/**13/bargain-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain->driver-1-owner-**>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://**bringatr**ailer.com/2011/06/13/**<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<h**ttp://bringatrailer.com/<http://bringatrailer.com/>2011/06/13/bargain-driver-1-
>>>>>>>> **owner-1974->
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> mgb-gt/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/******sby/cto/<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/>2450180023.html<
>>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.**craigslist.org/**sby/cto/<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/>2450180023.html>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  <http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> .org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  seems cheap.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale in
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Oakland.
>>>>>>>>>> Check it out:
>>>>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/******ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_******Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<**htt**
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/****320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
>>>>>>>> Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
>>>>>>>> a>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Clif 74 JH
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Pediatric Dentistry*
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Wed Jul  6 21:12:21 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 20:12:21 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
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Jensen Healey will be there Andy.
Clif and Deb

-----Original Message----- 
From: Andrew S. Doran
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 7:23 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Cc: Bud Alderson
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's

Andy, '79 Triumph Spitfire will be there.


> The more British diversity, the merrier!  Let us know officially if you
> will
> be joining in so we can be prepared. Thanks.  Marty & Bud
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson <
> hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> What about our Jensen Healey?
>> Clif and Deb
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: wendell bain
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:32 PM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>>
>> Andrew,
>>
>> They already accepted Mike's TR-4 and my Morgan. You should fit right
>> in.
>>
>> Wendell
>>
>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Andrew S. Doran wrote:
>>
>>  Mike,
>>>
>>> I would like to do the Novato ride but am worried I'm going to be  the
>>> only
>>> Triumph there!
>>>
>>> Since I live just across the San Rafael bridge both are tempting.
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>  Is anyone interested in attending the car show at the San Rafael
>>> yacht
>>>> club?
>>>> Or is everyone interested in the MG run, and does anyone know our
>>>> destination>
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>> 64 TR4
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:43 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I had forgotten about this. I think we should cancel our meet at  Bad
>>>>> Ass
>>>>> and join this ride. Does anyone have any objections? If not see  you
>>>>> at
>>>>> 10AM
>>>>> in Novato.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron
>>>>> 58 MGA
>>>>>
>>>>> Sheryl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to all...
>>>>>> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127
>>>>>> San
>>>>>> Marin Dr, Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
>>>>>> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from  home
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> too
>>>>>> good to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sheryl & Dennis
>>>>>> 1976 MGB x2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>>>>>> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>>> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to
>>>>>> open
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey  along
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor  with
>>>>>> NOBCC
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive  to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
>>>>>> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net>
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hi Marty,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG
>>>>>>> medalion
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> my Triumph?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>> 64 TR4
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
>>>>>>> drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Summer West Marin Tour
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Saturday, July 9
>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West  Marin,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> Bud
>>>>>>>> Alderson
>>>>>>>> and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that.
>>>>>>>> Leaving
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> Novato,
>>>>>>>> we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over
>>>>>>>> Wilson
>>>>>>>> Hill,
>>>>>>>> and follow
>>>>>>>> the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and the
>>>>>>>> Panoramic
>>>>>>>> Highway
>>>>>>>> (Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
>>>>>>>> look-around
>>>>>>>> and cheese
>>>>>>>> sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning organic
>>>>>>>> cheese
>>>>>>>> making).
>>>>>>>> (Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring  the
>>>>>>>> Marin
>>>>>>>> area
>>>>>>>> organic
>>>>>>>> industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
>>>>>>>> We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a
>>>>>>>> stagecoach
>>>>>>>> stop
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late
>>>>>>>> 1800s.
>>>>>>>> Come
>>>>>>>> visit with old
>>>>>>>> MG friends, and make some new ones.
>>>>>>>> There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have  your
>>>>>>>> pick:
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> quickest is
>>>>>>>> Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy  route,
>>>>>>>> follow
>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>> back over
>>>>>>>> Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view
>>>>>>>> tour
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> Shoreline Drive
>>>>>>>> (Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total  driving
>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>> back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
>>>>>>>> When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at  127
>>>>>>>> San
>>>>>>>> Marin
>>>>>>>> Drive in
>>>>>>>> Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin
>>>>>>>> Drive
>>>>>>>> Exit).
>>>>>>>> Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or
>>>>>>>> Highway
>>>>>>>> 37
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> the East
>>>>>>>> Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last
>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>> exit.
>>>>>>>> Head west.
>>>>>>>> Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
>>>>>>>> Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually  from
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Olema
>>>>>>>> Inn s lunch
>>>>>>>> menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this  convenience,
>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>> honor
>>>>>>>> the group
>>>>>>>> gratuity rate.
>>>>>>>> Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or
>>>>>>>> iralderson at comcast.net;
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>> Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian
>>>>>>>> <gtwincams at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Clif,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting  because
>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the  car
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> our Lotus club events.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay listing,
>>>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>>> poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything
>>>>>>>>> useful.
>>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped  out
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> Weber
>>>>>>>>> head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum
>>>>>>>>> radiator,
>>>>>>>>> headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice,  and
>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>> sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint,
>>>>>>>>> interior
>>>>>>>>> materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is  not
>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this  price.
>>>>>>>> An
>>>>>>>>> earlier
>>>>>>>>> car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure,  and
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> course
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory  now,
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>> S4
>>>>>>>>> in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe
>>>>>>>>> $20-25k,
>>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>> if there are issues.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring a
>>>>>>>>> Trailer
>>>>>>>>> recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active.
>>>>>>>>> Here's
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> recent BGT...
>>>>>>>>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/******06/13/bargain-driver-1-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1->**owner-**<
>>>>>>>>> http://**bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/**13/bargain-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain->driver-1-owner-**>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://**bringatr**ailer.com/2011/06/13/**<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<h**ttp://bringatrailer.com/<http://bringatrailer.com/>2011/06/13/bargain-driver-1-
>>>>>>>> **owner-1974->
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> mgb-gt/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/******sby/cto/<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/>2450180023.html<
>>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.**craigslist.org/**sby/cto/<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/>2450180023.html>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  <http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> .org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  seems cheap.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale in
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Oakland.
>>>>>>>>>> Check it out:
>>>>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/******ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_******Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<**htt**
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/****320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
>>>>>>>> Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
>>>>>>>> a>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Clif 74 JH
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From drmartyrayman at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 22:11:18 2011
From: drmartyrayman at gmail.com (Martin Sinai Rayman)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 21:11:18 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
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Andy, For lunch too?  Please "reply all" so Bud can have  ahead count.
Thanks, MaRty

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Andrew S. Doran <andrewdoran at berkeley.edu>wrote:

> Andy, '79 Triumph Spitfire will be there.
>
>
> > The more British diversity, the merrier!  Let us know officially if you
> > will
> > be joining in so we can be prepared. Thanks.  Marty & Bud
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson <
> > hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:
> >
> >> What about our Jensen Healey?
> >> Clif and Deb
> >>
> >> -----Original Message----- From: wendell bain
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:32 PM
> >> To: North Bay British Car Club
> >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
> >>
> >> Andrew,
> >>
> >> They already accepted Mike's TR-4 and my Morgan. You should fit right
> >> in.
> >>
> >> Wendell
> >>
> >> On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Andrew S. Doran wrote:
> >>
> >>  Mike,
> >>>
> >>> I would like to do the Novato ride but am worried I'm going to be  the
> >>> only
> >>> Triumph there!
> >>>
> >>> Since I live just across the San Rafael bridge both are tempting.
> >>>
> >>> Andrew
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Is anyone interested in attending the car show at the San Rafael
> >>> yacht
> >>>> club?
> >>>> Or is everyone interested in the MG run, and does anyone know our
> >>>> destination>
> >>>>
> >>>> Michael
> >>>> 64 TR4
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
> >>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:43 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>  I had forgotten about this. I think we should cancel our meet at  Bad
> >>>>> Ass
> >>>>> and join this ride. Does anyone have any objections? If not see  you
> >>>>> at
> >>>>> 10AM
> >>>>> in Novato.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ron
> >>>>> 58 MGA
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sheryl wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to all...
> >>>>>> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127
> >>>>>> San
> >>>>>> Marin Dr, Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
> >>>>>> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from  home
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>> too
> >>>>>> good to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sheryl & Dennis
> >>>>>> 1976 MGB x2
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> >>>>>> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
> >>>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> >>>>>> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
> >>>>>> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to
> >>>>>> open
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>>> up
> >>>>>> to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey  along
> >>>>>> for
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor  with
> >>>>>> NOBCC
> >>>>>> but
> >>>>>> each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive  to
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
> >>>>>> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net>
> >>>>>>  wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  Hi Marty,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG
> >>>>>>> medalion
> >>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>> my Triumph?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Michael
> >>>>>>> 64 TR4
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
> >>>>>>> drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Summer West Marin Tour
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Saturday, July 9
> >>>>>>>> Novato
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West  Marin,
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> Bud
> >>>>>>>> Alderson
> >>>>>>>> and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that.
> >>>>>>>> Leaving
> >>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>> Novato,
> >>>>>>>> we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over
> >>>>>>>> Wilson
> >>>>>>>> Hill,
> >>>>>>>> and follow
> >>>>>>>> the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and the
> >>>>>>>> Panoramic
> >>>>>>>> Highway
> >>>>>>>> (Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
> >>>>>>>> look-around
> >>>>>>>> and cheese
> >>>>>>>> sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning organic
> >>>>>>>> cheese
> >>>>>>>> making).
> >>>>>>>> (Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring  the
> >>>>>>>> Marin
> >>>>>>>> area
> >>>>>>>> organic
> >>>>>>>> industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
> >>>>>>>> We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a
> >>>>>>>> stagecoach
> >>>>>>>> stop
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late
> >>>>>>>> 1800s.
> >>>>>>>> Come
> >>>>>>>> visit with old
> >>>>>>>> MG friends, and make some new ones.
> >>>>>>>> There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have  your
> >>>>>>>> pick:
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> quickest is
> >>>>>>>> Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy  route,
> >>>>>>>> follow
> >>>>>>>> Marty
> >>>>>>>> back over
> >>>>>>>> Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view
> >>>>>>>> tour
> >>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>> Shoreline Drive
> >>>>>>>> (Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total  driving
> >>>>>>>> time
> >>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>> Novato
> >>>>>>>> back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
> >>>>>>>> When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at  127
> >>>>>>>> San
> >>>>>>>> Marin
> >>>>>>>> Drive in
> >>>>>>>> Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin
> >>>>>>>> Drive
> >>>>>>>> Exit).
> >>>>>>>> Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or
> >>>>>>>> Highway
> >>>>>>>> 37
> >>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>> the East
> >>>>>>>> Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last
> >>>>>>>> Novato
> >>>>>>>> exit.
> >>>>>>>> Head west.
> >>>>>>>> Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
> >>>>>>>> Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually  from
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> Olema
> >>>>>>>> Inn s lunch
> >>>>>>>> menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this  convenience,
> >>>>>>>> please
> >>>>>>>> honor
> >>>>>>>> the group
> >>>>>>>> gratuity rate.
> >>>>>>>> Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or
> >>>>>>>> iralderson at comcast.net;
> >>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>> Marty
> >>>>>>>> Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian
> >>>>>>>> <gtwincams at gmail.com
> >>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi Clif,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting  because
> >>>>>>>>> it's
> >>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>> local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the  car
> >>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>> any
> >>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>> our Lotus club events.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay listing,
> >>>>>>>>> especially
> >>>>>>>>> poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything
> >>>>>>>>> useful.
> >>>>>>>>> What
> >>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>> see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped  out
> >>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>> Weber
> >>>>>>>>> head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum
> >>>>>>>>> radiator,
> >>>>>>>>> headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice,  and
> >>>>>>>>> it's
> >>>>>>>>> got
> >>>>>>>>> sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint,
> >>>>>>>>> interior
> >>>>>>>>> materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is  not
> >>>>>>>>> only
> >>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this  price.
> >>>>>>>> An
> >>>>>>>>> earlier
> >>>>>>>>> car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure,  and
> >>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>> course
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory  now,
> >>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>> an
> >>>>>>>>> S4
> >>>>>>>>> in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe
> >>>>>>>>> $20-25k,
> >>>>>>>>> less
> >>>>>>>>> if there are issues.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring a
> >>>>>>>>> Trailer
> >>>>>>>>> recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active.
> >>>>>>>>> Here's
> >>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>> recent BGT...
> >>>>>>>>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/******06/13/bargain-driver-1-<
> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1->**owner-**<
> >>>>>>>>> http://**bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/**13/bargain-<
> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain->driver-1-owner-**>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://**bringatr**ailer.com/2011/06/13/**<
> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<h**ttp://bringatrailer.com/<
> http://bringatrailer.com/>2011/06/13/bargain-driver-1-
> >>>>>>>> **owner-1974->
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> mgb-gt/>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/******sby/cto/<
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/>2450180023.html<
> >>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.**craigslist.org/**sby/cto/<
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/>2450180023.html>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>  <http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> .org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  seems cheap.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>> Greg
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale in
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>  Oakland.
> >>>>>>>>>> Check it out:
> >>>>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/******ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<
> http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
> >>>>>>>>>> **
> >>>>>>>>>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<
> http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
> >>>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_******Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<**htt**
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/****320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
> >>>>>>>> Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
> >>>>>>>> a>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  Clif 74 JH
> >>>>>>>>>
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From drmartyrayman at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 22:12:53 2011
From: drmartyrayman at gmail.com (Martin Sinai Rayman)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 21:12:53 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
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Clif & Deb,  For lunch too.  Please "reply all" so Bud can have  ahead
count. Thanks, MARty

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson <
hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:

> Jensen Healey will be there Andy.
> Clif and Deb
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Andrew S. Doran
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 7:23 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Cc: Bud Alderson
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>
> Andy, '79 Triumph Spitfire will be there.
>
>
>  The more British diversity, the merrier!  Let us know officially if you
>> will
>> be joining in so we can be prepared. Thanks.  Marty & Bud
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson <
>> hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>>  What about our Jensen Healey?
>>> Clif and Deb
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: wendell bain
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:32 PM
>>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>>>
>>> Andrew,
>>>
>>> They already accepted Mike's TR-4 and my Morgan. You should fit right
>>> in.
>>>
>>> Wendell
>>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Andrew S. Doran wrote:
>>>
>>>  Mike,
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would like to do the Novato ride but am worried I'm going to be  the
>>>> only
>>>> Triumph there!
>>>>
>>>> Since I live just across the San Rafael bridge both are tempting.
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Is anyone interested in attending the car show at the San Rafael
>>>> yacht
>>>>
>>>>> club?
>>>>> Or is everyone interested in the MG run, and does anyone know our
>>>>> destination>
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael
>>>>> 64 TR4
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:43 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  I had forgotten about this. I think we should cancel our meet at  Bad
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ass
>>>>>> and join this ride. Does anyone have any objections? If not see  you
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> 10AM
>>>>>> in Novato.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>> 58 MGA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sheryl wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to all...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127
>>>>>>> San
>>>>>>> Marin Dr, Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
>>>>>>> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from  home
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>> good to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sheryl & Dennis
>>>>>>> 1976 MGB x2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>>>>>>> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>>>> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to
>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey  along
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor  with
>>>>>>> NOBCC
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive  to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
>>>>>>> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net>
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Hi Marty,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG
>>>>>>>> medalion
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> my Triumph?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>> 64 TR4
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
>>>>>>>> drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Summer West Marin Tour
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Saturday, July 9
>>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West  Marin,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> Bud
>>>>>>>>> Alderson
>>>>>>>>> and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that.
>>>>>>>>> Leaving
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> Novato,
>>>>>>>>> we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over
>>>>>>>>> Wilson
>>>>>>>>> Hill,
>>>>>>>>> and follow
>>>>>>>>> the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and the
>>>>>>>>> Panoramic
>>>>>>>>> Highway
>>>>>>>>> (Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
>>>>>>>>> look-around
>>>>>>>>> and cheese
>>>>>>>>> sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning organic
>>>>>>>>> cheese
>>>>>>>>> making).
>>>>>>>>> (Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring  the
>>>>>>>>> Marin
>>>>>>>>> area
>>>>>>>>> organic
>>>>>>>>> industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
>>>>>>>>> We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a
>>>>>>>>> stagecoach
>>>>>>>>> stop
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late
>>>>>>>>> 1800s.
>>>>>>>>> Come
>>>>>>>>> visit with old
>>>>>>>>> MG friends, and make some new ones.
>>>>>>>>> There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have  your
>>>>>>>>> pick:
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> quickest is
>>>>>>>>> Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy  route,
>>>>>>>>> follow
>>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>>> back over
>>>>>>>>> Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view
>>>>>>>>> tour
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> Shoreline Drive
>>>>>>>>> (Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total  driving
>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>>> back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
>>>>>>>>> When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at  127
>>>>>>>>> San
>>>>>>>>> Marin
>>>>>>>>> Drive in
>>>>>>>>> Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin
>>>>>>>>> Drive
>>>>>>>>> Exit).
>>>>>>>>> Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or
>>>>>>>>> Highway
>>>>>>>>> 37
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> the East
>>>>>>>>> Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last
>>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>>> exit.
>>>>>>>>> Head west.
>>>>>>>>> Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
>>>>>>>>> Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually  from
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Olema
>>>>>>>>> Inn s lunch
>>>>>>>>> menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this  convenience,
>>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>> honor
>>>>>>>>> the group
>>>>>>>>> gratuity rate.
>>>>>>>>> Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or
>>>>>>>>> iralderson at comcast.net;
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>>> Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian
>>>>>>>>> <gtwincams at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Clif,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting  because
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the  car
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> our Lotus club events.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay listing,
>>>>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>>>> poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything
>>>>>>>>>> useful.
>>>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped  out
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> Weber
>>>>>>>>>> head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum
>>>>>>>>>> radiator,
>>>>>>>>>> headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice,  and
>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>> sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint,
>>>>>>>>>> interior
>>>>>>>>>> materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is  not
>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this  price.
>>>>>>>>> An
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> earlier
>>>>>>>>>> car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure,  and
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> course
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory  now,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>> S4
>>>>>>>>>> in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe
>>>>>>>>>> $20-25k,
>>>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>>> if there are issues.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring a
>>>>>>>>>> Trailer
>>>>>>>>>> recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active.
>>>>>>>>>> Here's
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> recent BGT...
>>>>>>>>>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/********06/13/bargain-driver-1-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/******06/13/bargain-driver-1->
>>>>>>>>>> <**http://bringatrailer.com/2011/******06/13/bargain-driver-1-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1->
>>>>>>>>>> >****owner-**<
>>>>>>>>>> http://**bringatrailer.com/**2011/**06/**13/bargain-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/**13/bargain->
>>>>>>>>>> <http:/**/bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/**13/bargain-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain->
>>>>>>>>>> >driver-1-owner-**>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://****bringatr**ailer.com/2011/06/**13/**<http://ailer.com/2011/06/13/**>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://bringatrailer.**com/2011/06/13/**<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**>
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<**h**ttp://bringatrailer.com/<ht**
>>>>>>>>> tp://bringatrailer.com/ <http://bringatrailer.com/>>2011/**
>>>>>>>>> 06/13/bargain-driver-1-
>>>>>>>>> **owner-1974->
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> mgb-gt/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/********sby/cto/<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/******sby/cto/>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://sfbay.**craigslist.org/****sby/cto/<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/>
>>>>>>>>>> >**2450180023.html<
>>>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.**craigslist.org/****sby/cto/<http://craigslist.org/**sby/cto/>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://sfbay.**craigslist.org/**sby/cto/<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/>
>>>>>>>>>> >**2450180023.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  <http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> .org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  seems cheap.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Oakland.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Check it out:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/********ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-******<http://cgi.ebay.com/******ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****>
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/******ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/******ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-******<http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****>
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_********Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<****
>>>>>>>>>>> htt**
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/******320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
>>>>>>>>> Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
>>>>>>>>> a>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Clif 74 JH
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>>> *Martin Sinai Rayman, D.D.S.
>>>>>>>>> Pediatric Dentistry*
>>>>>>>>> 912 Grand Avenue, #202
>>>>>>>>> San Rafael, CA 94901-3538
>>>>>>>>> Voice: 415.459.1444
>>>>>>>>> FAX:   415.459.1320
>>>>>>>>> Website: http://www.openbigdds.com
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From andrewdoran at berkeley.edu  Thu Jul  7 09:37:24 2011
From: andrewdoran at berkeley.edu (Andrew S. Doran)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 08:37:24 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
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Yes for lunch

Andy
> Andy, For lunch too?  Please "reply all" so Bud can have  ahead count.
> Thanks, MaRty
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Andrew S. Doran
> <andrewdoran at berkeley.edu>wrote:
>
>> Andy, '79 Triumph Spitfire will be there.
>>
>>
>> > The more British diversity, the merrier!  Let us know officially if
>> you
>> > will
>> > be joining in so we can be prepared. Thanks.  Marty & Bud
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson <
>> > hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> What about our Jensen Healey?
>> >> Clif and Deb
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message----- From: wendell bain
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:32 PM
>> >> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>> >>
>> >> Andrew,
>> >>
>> >> They already accepted Mike's TR-4 and my Morgan. You should fit right
>> >> in.
>> >>
>> >> Wendell
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Andrew S. Doran wrote:
>> >>
>> >>  Mike,
>> >>>
>> >>> I would like to do the Novato ride but am worried I'm going to be
>> the
>> >>> only
>> >>> Triumph there!
>> >>>
>> >>> Since I live just across the San Rafael bridge both are tempting.
>> >>>
>> >>> Andrew
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>  Is anyone interested in attending the car show at the San Rafael
>> >>> yacht
>> >>>> club?
>> >>>> Or is everyone interested in the MG run, and does anyone know our
>> >>>> destination>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Michael
>> >>>> 64 TR4
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
>> >>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:43 PM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  I had forgotten about this. I think we should cancel our meet at
>> Bad
>> >>>>> Ass
>> >>>>> and join this ride. Does anyone have any objections? If not see
>> you
>> >>>>> at
>> >>>>> 10AM
>> >>>>> in Novato.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Ron
>> >>>>> 58 MGA
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Sheryl wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>  I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to
>> all...
>> >>>>>> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127
>> >>>>>> San
>> >>>>>> Marin Dr, Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
>> >>>>>> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from
>> home
>> >>>>>> is
>> >>>>>> too
>> >>>>>> good to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Sheryl & Dennis
>> >>>>>> 1976 MGB x2
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>> >>>>>> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> >>>>>> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
>> >>>>>> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to
>> >>>>>> open
>> >>>>>> it
>> >>>>>> up
>> >>>>>> to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey
>> along
>> >>>>>> for
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>>> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor
>> with
>> >>>>>> NOBCC
>> >>>>>> but
>> >>>>>> each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive
>> to
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>>> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
>> >>>>>> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net>
>> >>>>>>  wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>  Hi Marty,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG
>> >>>>>>> medalion
>> >>>>>>> on
>> >>>>>>> my Triumph?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Michael
>> >>>>>>> 64 TR4
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
>> >>>>>>> drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Summer West Marin Tour
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Saturday, July 9
>> >>>>>>>> Novato
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West
>> Marin,
>> >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>> Bud
>> >>>>>>>> Alderson
>> >>>>>>>> and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that.
>> >>>>>>>> Leaving
>> >>>>>>>> from
>> >>>>>>>> Novato,
>> >>>>>>>> we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over
>> >>>>>>>> Wilson
>> >>>>>>>> Hill,
>> >>>>>>>> and follow
>> >>>>>>>> the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and
>> the
>> >>>>>>>> Panoramic
>> >>>>>>>> Highway
>> >>>>>>>> (Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
>> >>>>>>>> look-around
>> >>>>>>>> and cheese
>> >>>>>>>> sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning
>> organic
>> >>>>>>>> cheese
>> >>>>>>>> making).
>> >>>>>>>> (Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring
>> the
>> >>>>>>>> Marin
>> >>>>>>>> area
>> >>>>>>>> organic
>> >>>>>>>> industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
>> >>>>>>>> We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a
>> >>>>>>>> stagecoach
>> >>>>>>>> stop
>> >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>> gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late
>> >>>>>>>> 1800s.
>> >>>>>>>> Come
>> >>>>>>>> visit with old
>> >>>>>>>> MG friends, and make some new ones.
>> >>>>>>>> There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have
>> your
>> >>>>>>>> pick:
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> quickest is
>> >>>>>>>> Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy
>> route,
>> >>>>>>>> follow
>> >>>>>>>> Marty
>> >>>>>>>> back over
>> >>>>>>>> Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view
>> >>>>>>>> tour
>> >>>>>>>> on
>> >>>>>>>> Shoreline Drive
>> >>>>>>>> (Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total
>> driving
>> >>>>>>>> time
>> >>>>>>>> from
>> >>>>>>>> Novato
>> >>>>>>>> back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
>> >>>>>>>> When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at
>> 127
>> >>>>>>>> San
>> >>>>>>>> Marin
>> >>>>>>>> Drive in
>> >>>>>>>> Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin
>> >>>>>>>> Drive
>> >>>>>>>> Exit).
>> >>>>>>>> Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or
>> >>>>>>>> Highway
>> >>>>>>>> 37
>> >>>>>>>> from
>> >>>>>>>> the East
>> >>>>>>>> Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last
>> >>>>>>>> Novato
>> >>>>>>>> exit.
>> >>>>>>>> Head west.
>> >>>>>>>> Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
>> >>>>>>>> Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually
>> from
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> Olema
>> >>>>>>>> Inn s lunch
>> >>>>>>>> menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this
>> convenience,
>> >>>>>>>> please
>> >>>>>>>> honor
>> >>>>>>>> the group
>> >>>>>>>> gratuity rate.
>> >>>>>>>> Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or
>> >>>>>>>> iralderson at comcast.net;
>> >>>>>>>> or
>> >>>>>>>> Marty
>> >>>>>>>> Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian
>> >>>>>>>> <gtwincams at gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Hi Clif,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting
>> because
>> >>>>>>>>> it's
>> >>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>> local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the
>> car
>> >>>>>>>>> at
>> >>>>>>>>> any
>> >>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>> our Lotus club events.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay
>> listing,
>> >>>>>>>>> especially
>> >>>>>>>>> poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything
>> >>>>>>>>> useful.
>> >>>>>>>>> What
>> >>>>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>>>> see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped
>> out
>> >>>>>>>>> for
>> >>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>> Weber
>> >>>>>>>>> head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum
>> >>>>>>>>> radiator,
>> >>>>>>>>> headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice,
>> and
>> >>>>>>>>> it's
>> >>>>>>>>> got
>> >>>>>>>>> sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint,
>> >>>>>>>>> interior
>> >>>>>>>>> materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is
>> not
>> >>>>>>>>> only
>> >>>>>>>>> at
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this
>> price.
>> >>>>>>>> An
>> >>>>>>>>> earlier
>> >>>>>>>>> car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure,
>> and
>> >>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>> course
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory
>> now,
>> >>>>>>>>> but
>> >>>>>>>>> an
>> >>>>>>>>> S4
>> >>>>>>>>> in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe
>> >>>>>>>>> $20-25k,
>> >>>>>>>>> less
>> >>>>>>>>> if there are issues.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring
>> a
>> >>>>>>>>> Trailer
>> >>>>>>>>> recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active.
>> >>>>>>>>> Here's
>> >>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>> recent BGT...
>> >>>>>>>>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/******06/13/bargain-driver-1-<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1->**owner-**<
>> >>>>>>>>> http://**bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/**13/bargain-<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain->driver-1-owner-**>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://**bringatr**ailer.com/2011/06/13/**<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<h**ttp://bringatrailer.com/<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/>2011/06/13/bargain-driver-1-
>> >>>>>>>> **owner-1974->
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> mgb-gt/>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/******sby/cto/<
>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/>2450180023.html<
>> >>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.**craigslist.org/**sby/cto/<
>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/>2450180023.html>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>  <http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> .org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  seems cheap.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>>>>>> Greg
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale
>> in
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>  Oakland.
>> >>>>>>>>>> Check it out:
>> >>>>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/******ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>> >>>>>>>>>> **
>> >>>>>>>>>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_******Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<**htt**
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/****320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
>> >>>>>>>> Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
>> >>>>>>>> a>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  Clif 74 JH
>> >>>>>>>>>
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Thu Jul  7 10:12:52 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 09:12:52 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
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yes, lunch too.
Thanks
Deb

-----Original Message----- 
From: Martin Sinai Rayman
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:12 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's

Clif & Deb,  For lunch too.  Please "reply all" so Bud can have  ahead
count. Thanks, MARty

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson <
hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:

> Jensen Healey will be there Andy.
> Clif and Deb
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Andrew S. Doran
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 7:23 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Cc: Bud Alderson
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>
> Andy, '79 Triumph Spitfire will be there.
>
>
>  The more British diversity, the merrier!  Let us know officially if you
>> will
>> be joining in so we can be prepared. Thanks.  Marty & Bud
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson <
>> hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>>  What about our Jensen Healey?
>>> Clif and Deb
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: wendell bain
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:32 PM
>>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>>>
>>> Andrew,
>>>
>>> They already accepted Mike's TR-4 and my Morgan. You should fit right
>>> in.
>>>
>>> Wendell
>>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Andrew S. Doran wrote:
>>>
>>>  Mike,
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would like to do the Novato ride but am worried I'm going to be  the
>>>> only
>>>> Triumph there!
>>>>
>>>> Since I live just across the San Rafael bridge both are tempting.
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Is anyone interested in attending the car show at the San Rafael
>>>> yacht
>>>>
>>>>> club?
>>>>> Or is everyone interested in the MG run, and does anyone know our
>>>>> destination>
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael
>>>>> 64 TR4
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:43 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  I had forgotten about this. I think we should cancel our meet at  Bad
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ass
>>>>>> and join this ride. Does anyone have any objections? If not see  you
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> 10AM
>>>>>> in Novato.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>> 58 MGA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sheryl wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to all...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127
>>>>>>> San
>>>>>>> Marin Dr, Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
>>>>>>> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from  home
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>> good to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sheryl & Dennis
>>>>>>> 1976 MGB x2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>>>>>>> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>>>> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to
>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey  along
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor  with
>>>>>>> NOBCC
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive  to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
>>>>>>> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net>
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Hi Marty,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG
>>>>>>>> medalion
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> my Triumph?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>> 64 TR4
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
>>>>>>>> drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Summer West Marin Tour
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Saturday, July 9
>>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West  Marin,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> Bud
>>>>>>>>> Alderson
>>>>>>>>> and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that.
>>>>>>>>> Leaving
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> Novato,
>>>>>>>>> we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over
>>>>>>>>> Wilson
>>>>>>>>> Hill,
>>>>>>>>> and follow
>>>>>>>>> the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and the
>>>>>>>>> Panoramic
>>>>>>>>> Highway
>>>>>>>>> (Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
>>>>>>>>> look-around
>>>>>>>>> and cheese
>>>>>>>>> sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning organic
>>>>>>>>> cheese
>>>>>>>>> making).
>>>>>>>>> (Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring  the
>>>>>>>>> Marin
>>>>>>>>> area
>>>>>>>>> organic
>>>>>>>>> industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
>>>>>>>>> We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a
>>>>>>>>> stagecoach
>>>>>>>>> stop
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late
>>>>>>>>> 1800s.
>>>>>>>>> Come
>>>>>>>>> visit with old
>>>>>>>>> MG friends, and make some new ones.
>>>>>>>>> There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have  your
>>>>>>>>> pick:
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> quickest is
>>>>>>>>> Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy  route,
>>>>>>>>> follow
>>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>>> back over
>>>>>>>>> Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view
>>>>>>>>> tour
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> Shoreline Drive
>>>>>>>>> (Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total  driving
>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>>> back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
>>>>>>>>> When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at  127
>>>>>>>>> San
>>>>>>>>> Marin
>>>>>>>>> Drive in
>>>>>>>>> Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin
>>>>>>>>> Drive
>>>>>>>>> Exit).
>>>>>>>>> Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or
>>>>>>>>> Highway
>>>>>>>>> 37
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> the East
>>>>>>>>> Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last
>>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>>> exit.
>>>>>>>>> Head west.
>>>>>>>>> Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
>>>>>>>>> Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually  from
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Olema
>>>>>>>>> Inn s lunch
>>>>>>>>> menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this  convenience,
>>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>> honor
>>>>>>>>> the group
>>>>>>>>> gratuity rate.
>>>>>>>>> Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or
>>>>>>>>> iralderson at comcast.net;
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>>> Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian
>>>>>>>>> <gtwincams at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Clif,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting  because
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the  car
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> our Lotus club events.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay listing,
>>>>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>>>> poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything
>>>>>>>>>> useful.
>>>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped  out
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> Weber
>>>>>>>>>> head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum
>>>>>>>>>> radiator,
>>>>>>>>>> headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice,  and
>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>> sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint,
>>>>>>>>>> interior
>>>>>>>>>> materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is  not
>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this  price.
>>>>>>>>> An
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> earlier
>>>>>>>>>> car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure,  and
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> course
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory  now,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>> S4
>>>>>>>>>> in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe
>>>>>>>>>> $20-25k,
>>>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>>> if there are issues.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring a
>>>>>>>>>> Trailer
>>>>>>>>>> recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active.
>>>>>>>>>> Here's
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> recent BGT...
>>>>>>>>>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/********06/13/bargain-driver-1-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/******06/13/bargain-driver-1->
>>>>>>>>>> <**http://bringatrailer.com/2011/******06/13/bargain-driver-1-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1->
>>>>>>>>>> >****owner-**<
>>>>>>>>>> http://**bringatrailer.com/**2011/**06/**13/bargain-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/**13/bargain->
>>>>>>>>>> <http:/**/bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/**13/bargain-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain->
>>>>>>>>>> >driver-1-owner-**>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://****bringatr**ailer.com/2011/06/**13/**<http://ailer.com/2011/06/13/**>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://bringatrailer.**com/2011/06/13/**<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**>
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<**h**ttp://bringatrailer.com/<ht**
>>>>>>>>> tp://bringatrailer.com/ <http://bringatrailer.com/>>2011/**
>>>>>>>>> 06/13/bargain-driver-1-
>>>>>>>>> **owner-1974->
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> mgb-gt/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/********sby/cto/<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/******sby/cto/>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://sfbay.**craigslist.org/****sby/cto/<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/>
>>>>>>>>>> >**2450180023.html<
>>>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.**craigslist.org/****sby/cto/<http://craigslist.org/**sby/cto/>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://sfbay.**craigslist.org/**sby/cto/<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/>
>>>>>>>>>> >**2450180023.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  <http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> .org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  seems cheap.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Oakland.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Check it out:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/********ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-******<http://cgi.ebay.com/******ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****>
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/******ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/******ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-******<http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****>
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_********Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<****
>>>>>>>>>>> htt**
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/******320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
>>>>>>>>> Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
>>>>>>>>> a>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Clif 74 JH
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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From sarto477 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  7 11:45:53 2011
From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 10:45:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
In-Reply-To: <5ddf565939837d1badac0b4d57a5c446.squirrel@calmail.berkeley.edu>
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Yes, lunch too.SArto

--- On Thu, 7/7/11, Andrew S. Doran <andrewdoran at berkeley.edu> wrote:

From: Andrew S. Doran <andrewdoran at berkeley.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Cc: "Bud Alderson" <iralderson at comcast.net>
Date: Thursday, July 7, 2011, 8:37 AM

Yes for lunch

Andy
> Andy, For lunch too?  Please "reply all" so Bud can have  ahead count.
> Thanks, MaRty
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Andrew S. Doran
> <andrewdoran at berkeley.edu>wrote:
>
>> Andy, '79 Triumph Spitfire will be there.
>>
>>
>> > The more British diversity, the merrier!  Let us know officially if
>> you
>> > will
>> > be joining in so we can be prepared. Thanks.  Marty & Bud
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson <
>> > hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> What about our Jensen Healey?
>> >> Clif and Deb
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message----- From: wendell bain
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:32 PM
>> >> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>> >>
>> >> Andrew,
>> >>
>> >> They already accepted Mike's TR-4 and my Morgan. You should fit right
>> >> in.
>> >>
>> >> Wendell
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Andrew S. Doran wrote:
>> >>
>> >>  Mike,
>> >>>
>> >>> I would like to do the Novato ride but am worried I'm going to be
>> the
>> >>> only
>> >>> Triumph there!
>> >>>
>> >>> Since I live just across the San Rafael bridge both are tempting.
>> >>>
>> >>> Andrew
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>  Is anyone interested in attending the car show at the San Rafael
>> >>> yacht
>> >>>> club?
>> >>>> Or is everyone interested in the MG run, and does anyone know our
>> >>>> destination>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Michael
>> >>>> 64 TR4
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
>> >>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:43 PM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  I had forgotten about this. I think we should cancel our meet at
>> Bad
>> >>>>> Ass
>> >>>>> and join this ride. Does anyone have any objections? If not see
>> you
>> >>>>> at
>> >>>>> 10AM
>> >>>>> in Novato.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Ron
>> >>>>> 58 MGA
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Sheryl wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>  I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to
>> all...
>> >>>>>> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127
>> >>>>>> San
>> >>>>>> Marin Dr, Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
>> >>>>>> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from
>> home
>> >>>>>> is
>> >>>>>> too
>> >>>>>> good to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Sheryl & Dennis
>> >>>>>> 1976 MGB x2
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>> >>>>>> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> >>>>>> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
>> >>>>>> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to
>> >>>>>> open
>> >>>>>> it
>> >>>>>> up
>> >>>>>> to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey
>> along
>> >>>>>> for
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>>> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor
>> with
>> >>>>>> NOBCC
>> >>>>>> but
>> >>>>>> each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive
>> to
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>>> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
>> >>>>>> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net>
>> >>>>>>  wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>  Hi Marty,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG
>> >>>>>>> medalion
>> >>>>>>> on
>> >>>>>>> my Triumph?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Michael
>> >>>>>>> 64 TR4
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
>> >>>>>>> drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Summer West Marin Tour
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Saturday, July 9
>> >>>>>>>> Novato
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West
>> Marin,
>> >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>> Bud
>> >>>>>>>> Alderson
>> >>>>>>>> and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that.
>> >>>>>>>> Leaving
>> >>>>>>>> from
>> >>>>>>>> Novato,
>> >>>>>>>> we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over
>> >>>>>>>> Wilson
>> >>>>>>>> Hill,
>> >>>>>>>> and follow
>> >>>>>>>> the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and
>> the
>> >>>>>>>> Panoramic
>> >>>>>>>> Highway
>> >>>>>>>> (Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
>> >>>>>>>> look-around
>> >>>>>>>> and cheese
>> >>>>>>>> sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning
>> organic
>> >>>>>>>> cheese
>> >>>>>>>> making).
>> >>>>>>>> (Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring
>> the
>> >>>>>>>> Marin
>> >>>>>>>> area
>> >>>>>>>> organic
>> >>>>>>>> industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
>> >>>>>>>> We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a
>> >>>>>>>> stagecoach
>> >>>>>>>> stop
>> >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>> gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late
>> >>>>>>>> 1800s.
>> >>>>>>>> Come
>> >>>>>>>> visit with old
>> >>>>>>>> MG friends, and make some new ones.
>> >>>>>>>> There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have
>> your
>> >>>>>>>> pick:
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> quickest is
>> >>>>>>>> Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy
>> route,
>> >>>>>>>> follow
>> >>>>>>>> Marty
>> >>>>>>>> back over
>> >>>>>>>> Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view
>> >>>>>>>> tour
>> >>>>>>>> on
>> >>>>>>>> Shoreline Drive
>> >>>>>>>> (Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total
>> driving
>> >>>>>>>> time
>> >>>>>>>> from
>> >>>>>>>> Novato
>> >>>>>>>> back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
>> >>>>>>>> When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at
>> 127
>> >>>>>>>> San
>> >>>>>>>> Marin
>> >>>>>>>> Drive in
>> >>>>>>>> Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin
>> >>>>>>>> Drive
>> >>>>>>>> Exit).
>> >>>>>>>> Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or
>> >>>>>>>> Highway
>> >>>>>>>> 37
>> >>>>>>>> from
>> >>>>>>>> the East
>> >>>>>>>> Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last
>> >>>>>>>> Novato
>> >>>>>>>> exit.
>> >>>>>>>> Head west.
>> >>>>>>>> Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
>> >>>>>>>> Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually
>> from
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> Olema
>> >>>>>>>> Inn s lunch
>> >>>>>>>> menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this
>> convenience,
>> >>>>>>>> please
>> >>>>>>>> honor
>> >>>>>>>> the group
>> >>>>>>>> gratuity rate.
>> >>>>>>>> Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or
>> >>>>>>>> iralderson at comcast.net;
>> >>>>>>>> or
>> >>>>>>>> Marty
>> >>>>>>>> Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian
>> >>>>>>>> <gtwincams at gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Hi Clif,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting
>> because
>> >>>>>>>>> it's
>> >>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>> local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the
>> car
>> >>>>>>>>> at
>> >>>>>>>>> any
>> >>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>> our Lotus club events.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay
>> listing,
>> >>>>>>>>> especially
>> >>>>>>>>> poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything
>> >>>>>>>>> useful.
>> >>>>>>>>> What
>> >>>>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>>>> see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped
>> out
>> >>>>>>>>> for
>> >>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>> Weber
>> >>>>>>>>> head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum
>> >>>>>>>>> radiator,
>> >>>>>>>>> headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice,
>> and
>> >>>>>>>>> it's
>> >>>>>>>>> got
>> >>>>>>>>> sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint,
>> >>>>>>>>> interior
>> >>>>>>>>> materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is
>> not
>> >>>>>>>>> only
>> >>>>>>>>> at
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this
>> price.
>> >>>>>>>> An
>> >>>>>>>>> earlier
>> >>>>>>>>> car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure,
>> and
>> >>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>> course
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory
>> now,
>> >>>>>>>>> but
>> >>>>>>>>> an
>> >>>>>>>>> S4
>> >>>>>>>>> in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe
>> >>>>>>>>> $20-25k,
>> >>>>>>>>> less
>> >>>>>>>>> if there are issues.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring
>> a
>> >>>>>>>>> Trailer
>> >>>>>>>>> recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active.
>> >>>>>>>>> Here's
>> >>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>> recent BGT...
>> >>>>>>>>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/******06/13/bargain-driver-1-<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1->**owner-**<
>> >>>>>>>>> http://**bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/**13/bargain-<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain->driver-1-owner-**>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://**bringatr**ailer.com/2011/06/13/**<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<h**ttp://bringatrailer.com/<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/>2011/06/13/bargain-driver-1-
>> >>>>>>>> **owner-1974->
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> mgb-gt/>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/******sby/cto/<
>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/>2450180023.html<
>> >>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.**craigslist.org/**sby/cto/<
>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/>2450180023.html>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>  <http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> .org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  seems cheap.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>>>>>> Greg
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale
>> in
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>  Oakland.
>> >>>>>>>>>> Check it out:
>> >>>>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/******ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>> >>>>>>>>>> **
>> >>>>>>>>>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_******Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<**htt**
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/****320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
>> >>>>>>>> Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
>> >>>>>>>> a>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  Clif 74 JH
>> >>>>>>>>>
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Thu Jul  7 12:02:35 2011
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 11:02:35 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] RSVP's
Message-ID: <4E15F4BB.3090909@sonic.net>

RSVP's are getting gummed up on the list server due to being sent from 
other than registered addresses. It would be better to contact Martin 
and Bud directly at drmartyrayman at gmail.com and ralderson at comcast.net to 
make sure they have them.

That being said, I will attend the ride but not the lunch so anyone else 
in the same situation can split off with me to return to SR. See you 
Saturday!

Ron
58 MGA

From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul  7 12:06:18 2011
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (Andy Preston)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 11:06:18 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
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Marty both Marla and I will be there for lunch too.  Jennifer Orum from BC
will also be joining us and will be there for lunch.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Martin Sinai Rayman
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:11 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Cc: Bud Alderson
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's

Andy, For lunch too?  Please "reply all" so Bud can have  ahead count.
Thanks, MaRty

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Andrew S. Doran
<andrewdoran at berkeley.edu>wrote:

> Andy, '79 Triumph Spitfire will be there.
>
>
> > The more British diversity, the merrier!  Let us know officially if you
> > will
> > be joining in so we can be prepared. Thanks.  Marty & Bud
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson <
> > hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:
> >
> >> What about our Jensen Healey?
> >> Clif and Deb
> >>
> >> -----Original Message----- From: wendell bain
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:32 PM
> >> To: North Bay British Car Club
> >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
> >>
> >> Andrew,
> >>
> >> They already accepted Mike's TR-4 and my Morgan. You should fit right
> >> in.
> >>
> >> Wendell
> >>
> >> On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Andrew S. Doran wrote:
> >>
> >>  Mike,
> >>>
> >>> I would like to do the Novato ride but am worried I'm going to be  the
> >>> only
> >>> Triumph there!
> >>>
> >>> Since I live just across the San Rafael bridge both are tempting.
> >>>
> >>> Andrew
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Is anyone interested in attending the car show at the San Rafael
> >>> yacht
> >>>> club?
> >>>> Or is everyone interested in the MG run, and does anyone know our
> >>>> destination>
> >>>>
> >>>> Michael
> >>>> 64 TR4
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
> >>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:43 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>  I had forgotten about this. I think we should cancel our meet at
Bad
> >>>>> Ass
> >>>>> and join this ride. Does anyone have any objections? If not see  you
> >>>>> at
> >>>>> 10AM
> >>>>> in Novato.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ron
> >>>>> 58 MGA
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sheryl wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to all...
> >>>>>> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127
> >>>>>> San
> >>>>>> Marin Dr, Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
> >>>>>> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from  home
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>> too
> >>>>>> good to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sheryl & Dennis
> >>>>>> 1976 MGB x2
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> >>>>>> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
> >>>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> >>>>>> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
> >>>>>> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to
> >>>>>> open
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>>> up
> >>>>>> to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey
along
> >>>>>> for
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor  with
> >>>>>> NOBCC
> >>>>>> but
> >>>>>> each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive
to
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
> >>>>>> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net>
> >>>>>>  wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  Hi Marty,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG
> >>>>>>> medalion
> >>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>> my Triumph?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Michael
> >>>>>>> 64 TR4
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
> >>>>>>> drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Summer West Marin Tour
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Saturday, July 9
> >>>>>>>> Novato
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West  Marin,
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> Bud
> >>>>>>>> Alderson
> >>>>>>>> and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that.
> >>>>>>>> Leaving
> >>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>> Novato,
> >>>>>>>> we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over
> >>>>>>>> Wilson
> >>>>>>>> Hill,
> >>>>>>>> and follow
> >>>>>>>> the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and the
> >>>>>>>> Panoramic
> >>>>>>>> Highway
> >>>>>>>> (Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
> >>>>>>>> look-around
> >>>>>>>> and cheese
> >>>>>>>> sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning organic
> >>>>>>>> cheese
> >>>>>>>> making).
> >>>>>>>> (Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring  the
> >>>>>>>> Marin
> >>>>>>>> area
> >>>>>>>> organic
> >>>>>>>> industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
> >>>>>>>> We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a
> >>>>>>>> stagecoach
> >>>>>>>> stop
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late
> >>>>>>>> 1800s.
> >>>>>>>> Come
> >>>>>>>> visit with old
> >>>>>>>> MG friends, and make some new ones.
> >>>>>>>> There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have  your
> >>>>>>>> pick:
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> quickest is
> >>>>>>>> Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy  route,
> >>>>>>>> follow
> >>>>>>>> Marty
> >>>>>>>> back over
> >>>>>>>> Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view
> >>>>>>>> tour
> >>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>> Shoreline Drive
> >>>>>>>> (Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total
driving
> >>>>>>>> time
> >>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>> Novato
> >>>>>>>> back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
> >>>>>>>> When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at  127
> >>>>>>>> San
> >>>>>>>> Marin
> >>>>>>>> Drive in
> >>>>>>>> Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin
> >>>>>>>> Drive
> >>>>>>>> Exit).
> >>>>>>>> Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or
> >>>>>>>> Highway
> >>>>>>>> 37
> >>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>> the East
> >>>>>>>> Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last
> >>>>>>>> Novato
> >>>>>>>> exit.
> >>>>>>>> Head west.
> >>>>>>>> Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
> >>>>>>>> Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually  from
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> Olema
> >>>>>>>> Inn s lunch
> >>>>>>>> menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this  convenience,
> >>>>>>>> please
> >>>>>>>> honor
> >>>>>>>> the group
> >>>>>>>> gratuity rate.
> >>>>>>>> Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or
> >>>>>>>> iralderson at comcast.net;
> >>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>> Marty
> >>>>>>>> Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian
> >>>>>>>> <gtwincams at gmail.com
> >>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi Clif,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting  because
> >>>>>>>>> it's
> >>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>> local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the  car
> >>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>> any
> >>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>> our Lotus club events.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay listing,
> >>>>>>>>> especially
> >>>>>>>>> poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything
> >>>>>>>>> useful.
> >>>>>>>>> What
> >>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>> see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped  out
> >>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>> Weber
> >>>>>>>>> head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum
> >>>>>>>>> radiator,
> >>>>>>>>> headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice,
and
> >>>>>>>>> it's
> >>>>>>>>> got
> >>>>>>>>> sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint,
> >>>>>>>>> interior
> >>>>>>>>> materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is
not
> >>>>>>>>> only
> >>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this
price.
> >>>>>>>> An
> >>>>>>>>> earlier
> >>>>>>>>> car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure,  and
> >>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>> course
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory
now,
> >>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>> an
> >>>>>>>>> S4
> >>>>>>>>> in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe
> >>>>>>>>> $20-25k,
> >>>>>>>>> less
> >>>>>>>>> if there are issues.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring a
> >>>>>>>>> Trailer
> >>>>>>>>> recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active.
> >>>>>>>>> Here's
> >>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>> recent BGT...
> >>>>>>>>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/******06/13/bargain-driver-1-<
> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1->**owner-**<
> >>>>>>>>> http://**bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/**13/bargain-<
> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain->driver-1-owner-**>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://**bringatr**ailer.com/2011/06/13/**<
> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<h**ttp://bringatrailer.com/<
> http://bringatrailer.com/>2011/06/13/bargain-driver-1-
> >>>>>>>> **owner-1974->
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> mgb-gt/>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/******sby/cto/<
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/>2450180023.html<
> >>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.**craigslist.org/**sby/cto/<
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/>2450180023.html>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>  <http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> .org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  seems cheap.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>> Greg
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale in
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>  Oakland.
> >>>>>>>>>> Check it out:
> >>>>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/******ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<
> http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
> >>>>>>>>>> **
> >>>>>>>>>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<
> http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
> >>>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_******Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<**htt**
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/****320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
> >>>>>>>> Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
> >>>>>>>> a>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  Clif 74 JH
> >>>>>>>>>
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From rolquinmac at me.com  Thu Jul  7 14:50:49 2011
From: rolquinmac at me.com (Roland Quintero)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 13:50:49 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
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Just for bud / count/ lunch...

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On Jul 7, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Roland Quintero <rolquinmac at me.com> wrote:

> Ok. Jeanne and I will be there for lunch.  Hello Jennifer...  Roland. Quintero
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jul 7, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Andy Preston <andypreston at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> Marty both Marla and I will be there for lunch too.  Jennifer Orum from BC
>> will also be joining us and will be there for lunch.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
>> Behalf Of Martin Sinai Rayman
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:11 PM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Cc: Bud Alderson
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>> 
>> Andy, For lunch too?  Please "reply all" so Bud can have  ahead count.
>> Thanks, MaRty
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Andrew S. Doran
>> <andrewdoran at berkeley.edu>wrote:
>> 
>>> Andy, '79 Triumph Spitfire will be there.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> The more British diversity, the merrier!  Let us know officially if you
>>>> will
>>>> be joining in so we can be prepared. Thanks.  Marty & Bud
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson <
>>>> hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> What about our Jensen Healey?
>>>>> Clif and Deb
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: wendell bain
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:32 PM
>>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andrew,
>>>>> 
>>>>> They already accepted Mike's TR-4 and my Morgan. You should fit right
>>>>> in.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wendell
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Andrew S. Doran wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would like to do the Novato ride but am worried I'm going to be  the
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> Triumph there!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Since I live just across the San Rafael bridge both are tempting.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is anyone interested in attending the car show at the San Rafael
>>>>>> yacht
>>>>>>> club?
>>>>>>> Or is everyone interested in the MG run, and does anyone know our
>>>>>>> destination>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>> 64 TR4
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
>>>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:43 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I had forgotten about this. I think we should cancel our meet at
>> Bad
>>>>>>>> Ass
>>>>>>>> and join this ride. Does anyone have any objections? If not see  you
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> 10AM
>>>>>>>> in Novato.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>>>> 58 MGA
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sheryl wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to all...
>>>>>>>>> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127
>>>>>>>>> San
>>>>>>>>> Marin Dr, Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
>>>>>>>>> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from  home
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>> good to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sheryl & Dennis
>>>>>>>>> 1976 MGB x2
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>>>>>>>>> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to
>>>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>> to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey
>> along
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor  with
>>>>>>>>> NOBCC
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive
>> to
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
>>>>>>>>> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Marty,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG
>>>>>>>>>> medalion
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> my Triumph?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>> 64 TR4
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
>>>>>>>>>> drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Summer West Marin Tour
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Saturday, July 9
>>>>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West  Marin,
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> Bud
>>>>>>>>>>> Alderson
>>>>>>>>>>> and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that.
>>>>>>>>>>> Leaving
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> Novato,
>>>>>>>>>>> we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over
>>>>>>>>>>> Wilson
>>>>>>>>>>> Hill,
>>>>>>>>>>> and follow
>>>>>>>>>>> the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and the
>>>>>>>>>>> Panoramic
>>>>>>>>>>> Highway
>>>>>>>>>>> (Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
>>>>>>>>>>> look-around
>>>>>>>>>>> and cheese
>>>>>>>>>>> sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning organic
>>>>>>>>>>> cheese
>>>>>>>>>>> making).
>>>>>>>>>>> (Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring  the
>>>>>>>>>>> Marin
>>>>>>>>>>> area
>>>>>>>>>>> organic
>>>>>>>>>>> industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
>>>>>>>>>>> We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a
>>>>>>>>>>> stagecoach
>>>>>>>>>>> stop
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late
>>>>>>>>>>> 1800s.
>>>>>>>>>>> Come
>>>>>>>>>>> visit with old
>>>>>>>>>>> MG friends, and make some new ones.
>>>>>>>>>>> There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have  your
>>>>>>>>>>> pick:
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> quickest is
>>>>>>>>>>> Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy  route,
>>>>>>>>>>> follow
>>>>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>>>>> back over
>>>>>>>>>>> Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view
>>>>>>>>>>> tour
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> Shoreline Drive
>>>>>>>>>>> (Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total
>> driving
>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>>>>> back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
>>>>>>>>>>> When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at  127
>>>>>>>>>>> San
>>>>>>>>>>> Marin
>>>>>>>>>>> Drive in
>>>>>>>>>>> Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin
>>>>>>>>>>> Drive
>>>>>>>>>>> Exit).
>>>>>>>>>>> Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or
>>>>>>>>>>> Highway
>>>>>>>>>>> 37
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> the East
>>>>>>>>>>> Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last
>>>>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>>>>> exit.
>>>>>>>>>>> Head west.
>>>>>>>>>>> Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
>>>>>>>>>>> Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually  from
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> Olema
>>>>>>>>>>> Inn s lunch
>>>>>>>>>>> menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this  convenience,
>>>>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>>>> honor
>>>>>>>>>>> the group
>>>>>>>>>>> gratuity rate.
>>>>>>>>>>> Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or
>>>>>>>>>>> iralderson at comcast.net;
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>>>>> Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian
>>>>>>>>>>> <gtwincams at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Clif,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting  because
>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the  car
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> our Lotus club events.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay listing,
>>>>>>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>>>>>> poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything
>>>>>>>>>>>> useful.
>>>>>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped  out
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> Weber
>>>>>>>>>>>> head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum
>>>>>>>>>>>> radiator,
>>>>>>>>>>>> headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice,
>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>> sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint,
>>>>>>>>>>>> interior
>>>>>>>>>>>> materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is
>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this
>> price.
>>>>>>>>>>> An
>>>>>>>>>>>> earlier
>>>>>>>>>>>> car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure,  and
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> course
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory
>> now,
>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>> S4
>>>>>>>>>>>> in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>> $20-25k,
>>>>>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>>>>> if there are issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring a
>>>>>>>>>>>> Trailer
>>>>>>>>>>>> recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> recent BGT...
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/******06/13/bargain-driver-1-<
>>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1->**owner-**<
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://**bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/**13/bargain-<
>>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain->driver-1-owner-**>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://**bringatr**ailer.com/2011/06/13/**<
>>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<h**ttp://bringatrailer.com/<
>>> http://bringatrailer.com/>2011/06/13/bargain-driver-1-
>>>>>>>>>>> **owner-1974->
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> mgb-gt/>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/******sby/cto/<
>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/>2450180023.html<
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.**craigslist.org/**sby/cto/<
>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/>2450180023.html>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> .org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> seems cheap.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale in
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oakland.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check it out:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/******ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_******Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<**htt**
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/****320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
>>>>>>>>>>> Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
>>>>>>>>>>> a>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Clif 74 JH
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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From cuthroat at live.com  Thu Jul  7 14:59:35 2011
From: cuthroat at live.com (Mel Cohen)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 13:59:35 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Mel's 58 Morgan Plus 4 for sale
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Two Morgan's are 1 too many. I have now listed my Plus 4 on Hemmings Motor
News. You can check it out at: 

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/morgan/unspecified/1251437.h
tml

For more information call me at 707 224 6428 or email napamel at live.com.

I am looking forward to the Saturday drive and lunch with the MG Club.

Mel Cohen, 95 Morgan Plus 8

From cuthroat at live.com  Thu Jul  7 12:34:34 2011
From: cuthroat at live.com (Mel Cohen)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 11:34:34 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's & Morgan's
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Can you handle one more Morgan and one lunch?

Also, is there any change of going to the Marin Yacht Club for the Car Show
after lunch?

Mel Cohen, Morgan Plus 8

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Sarto Rocheleau
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 10:46 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's

Yes, lunch too.SArto

--- On Thu, 7/7/11, Andrew S. Doran <andrewdoran at berkeley.edu> wrote:

From: Andrew S. Doran <andrewdoran at berkeley.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Cc: "Bud Alderson" <iralderson at comcast.net>
Date: Thursday, July 7, 2011, 8:37 AM

Yes for lunch

Andy
> Andy, For lunch too?  Please "reply all" so Bud can have  ahead count.
> Thanks, MaRty
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Andrew S. Doran
> <andrewdoran at berkeley.edu>wrote:
>
>> Andy, '79 Triumph Spitfire will be there.
>>
>>
>> > The more British diversity, the merrier!  Let us know officially if
>> you
>> > will
>> > be joining in so we can be prepared. Thanks.  Marty & Bud
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson <
>> > hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> What about our Jensen Healey?
>> >> Clif and Deb
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message----- From: wendell bain
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:32 PM
>> >> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>> >>
>> >> Andrew,
>> >>
>> >> They already accepted Mike's TR-4 and my Morgan. You should fit right
>> >> in.
>> >>
>> >> Wendell
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Andrew S. Doran wrote:
>> >>
>> >>  Mike,
>> >>>
>> >>> I would like to do the Novato ride but am worried I'm going to be
>> the
>> >>> only
>> >>> Triumph there!
>> >>>
>> >>> Since I live just across the San Rafael bridge both are tempting.
>> >>>
>> >>> Andrew
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>  Is anyone interested in attending the car show at the San Rafael
>> >>> yacht
>> >>>> club?
>> >>>> Or is everyone interested in the MG run, and does anyone know our
>> >>>> destination>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Michael
>> >>>> 64 TR4
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
>> >>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:43 PM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  I had forgotten about this. I think we should cancel our meet at
>> Bad
>> >>>>> Ass
>> >>>>> and join this ride. Does anyone have any objections? If not see
>> you
>> >>>>> at
>> >>>>> 10AM
>> >>>>> in Novato.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Ron
>> >>>>> 58 MGA
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Sheryl wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>  I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to
>> all...
>> >>>>>> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127
>> >>>>>> San
>> >>>>>> Marin Dr, Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
>> >>>>>> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from
>> home
>> >>>>>> is
>> >>>>>> too
>> >>>>>> good to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Sheryl & Dennis
>> >>>>>> 1976 MGB x2
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>> >>>>>> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> >>>>>> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
>> >>>>>> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to
>> >>>>>> open
>> >>>>>> it
>> >>>>>> up
>> >>>>>> to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey
>> along
>> >>>>>> for
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>>> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor
>> with
>> >>>>>> NOBCC
>> >>>>>> but
>> >>>>>> each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive
>> to
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>>> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
>> >>>>>> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net>
>> >>>>>>  wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>  Hi Marty,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG
>> >>>>>>> medalion
>> >>>>>>> on
>> >>>>>>> my Triumph?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Michael
>> >>>>>>> 64 TR4
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
>> >>>>>>> drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Summer West Marin Tour
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Saturday, July 9
>> >>>>>>>> Novato
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West
>> Marin,
>> >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>> Bud
>> >>>>>>>> Alderson
>> >>>>>>>> and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that.
>> >>>>>>>> Leaving
>> >>>>>>>> from
>> >>>>>>>> Novato,
>> >>>>>>>> we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over
>> >>>>>>>> Wilson
>> >>>>>>>> Hill,
>> >>>>>>>> and follow
>> >>>>>>>> the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and
>> the
>> >>>>>>>> Panoramic
>> >>>>>>>> Highway
>> >>>>>>>> (Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
>> >>>>>>>> look-around
>> >>>>>>>> and cheese
>> >>>>>>>> sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning
>> organic
>> >>>>>>>> cheese
>> >>>>>>>> making).
>> >>>>>>>> (Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring
>> the
>> >>>>>>>> Marin
>> >>>>>>>> area
>> >>>>>>>> organic
>> >>>>>>>> industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
>> >>>>>>>> We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a
>> >>>>>>>> stagecoach
>> >>>>>>>> stop
>> >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>> gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late
>> >>>>>>>> 1800s.
>> >>>>>>>> Come
>> >>>>>>>> visit with old
>> >>>>>>>> MG friends, and make some new ones.
>> >>>>>>>> There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have
>> your
>> >>>>>>>> pick:
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> quickest is
>> >>>>>>>> Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy
>> route,
>> >>>>>>>> follow
>> >>>>>>>> Marty
>> >>>>>>>> back over
>> >>>>>>>> Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view
>> >>>>>>>> tour
>> >>>>>>>> on
>> >>>>>>>> Shoreline Drive
>> >>>>>>>> (Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total
>> driving
>> >>>>>>>> time
>> >>>>>>>> from
>> >>>>>>>> Novato
>> >>>>>>>> back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
>> >>>>>>>> When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at
>> 127
>> >>>>>>>> San
>> >>>>>>>> Marin
>> >>>>>>>> Drive in
>> >>>>>>>> Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin
>> >>>>>>>> Drive
>> >>>>>>>> Exit).
>> >>>>>>>> Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or
>> >>>>>>>> Highway
>> >>>>>>>> 37
>> >>>>>>>> from
>> >>>>>>>> the East
>> >>>>>>>> Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last
>> >>>>>>>> Novato
>> >>>>>>>> exit.
>> >>>>>>>> Head west.
>> >>>>>>>> Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
>> >>>>>>>> Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually
>> from
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> Olema
>> >>>>>>>> Inn s lunch
>> >>>>>>>> menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this
>> convenience,
>> >>>>>>>> please
>> >>>>>>>> honor
>> >>>>>>>> the group
>> >>>>>>>> gratuity rate.
>> >>>>>>>> Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or
>> >>>>>>>> iralderson at comcast.net;
>> >>>>>>>> or
>> >>>>>>>> Marty
>> >>>>>>>> Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian
>> >>>>>>>> <gtwincams at gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Hi Clif,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting
>> because
>> >>>>>>>>> it's
>> >>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>> local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the
>> car
>> >>>>>>>>> at
>> >>>>>>>>> any
>> >>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>> our Lotus club events.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay
>> listing,
>> >>>>>>>>> especially
>> >>>>>>>>> poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything
>> >>>>>>>>> useful.
>> >>>>>>>>> What
>> >>>>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>>>> see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped
>> out
>> >>>>>>>>> for
>> >>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>> Weber
>> >>>>>>>>> head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum
>> >>>>>>>>> radiator,
>> >>>>>>>>> headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice,
>> and
>> >>>>>>>>> it's
>> >>>>>>>>> got
>> >>>>>>>>> sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint,
>> >>>>>>>>> interior
>> >>>>>>>>> materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is
>> not
>> >>>>>>>>> only
>> >>>>>>>>> at
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this
>> price.
>> >>>>>>>> An
>> >>>>>>>>> earlier
>> >>>>>>>>> car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure,
>> and
>> >>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>> course
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory
>> now,
>> >>>>>>>>> but
>> >>>>>>>>> an
>> >>>>>>>>> S4
>> >>>>>>>>> in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe
>> >>>>>>>>> $20-25k,
>> >>>>>>>>> less
>> >>>>>>>>> if there are issues.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring
>> a
>> >>>>>>>>> Trailer
>> >>>>>>>>> recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active.
>> >>>>>>>>> Here's
>> >>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>> recent BGT...
>> >>>>>>>>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/******06/13/bargain-driver-1-<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1->**owner-**<
>> >>>>>>>>> http://**bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/**13/bargain-<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain->driver-1-owner-**>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://**bringatr**ailer.com/2011/06/13/**<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<h**ttp://bringatrailer.com/<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/>2011/06/13/bargain-driver-1-
>> >>>>>>>> **owner-1974->
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> mgb-gt/>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/******sby/cto/<
>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/>2450180023.html<
>> >>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.**craigslist.org/**sby/cto/<
>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/>2450180023.html>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>  <http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> .org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  seems cheap.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>>>>>> Greg
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale
>> in
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>  Oakland.
>> >>>>>>>>>> Check it out:
>> >>>>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/******ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>> >>>>>>>>>> **
>> >>>>>>>>>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_******Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<**htt**
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/****320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
>> >>>>>>>> Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
>> >>>>>>>> a>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  Clif 74 JH
>> >>>>>>>>>
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From rolquinmac at me.com  Thu Jul  7 13:43:03 2011
From: rolquinmac at me.com (Roland Quintero)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 12:43:03 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
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Ok. Jeanne and I will be there for lunch.  Hello Jennifer...  Roland. Quintero

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On Jul 7, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Andy Preston <andypreston at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Marty both Marla and I will be there for lunch too.  Jennifer Orum from BC
> will also be joining us and will be there for lunch.
> 
> Andy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Martin Sinai Rayman
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:11 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Cc: Bud Alderson
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
> 
> Andy, For lunch too?  Please "reply all" so Bud can have  ahead count.
> Thanks, MaRty
> 
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Andrew S. Doran
> <andrewdoran at berkeley.edu>wrote:
> 
>> Andy, '79 Triumph Spitfire will be there.
>> 
>> 
>>> The more British diversity, the merrier!  Let us know officially if you
>>> will
>>> be joining in so we can be prepared. Thanks.  Marty & Bud
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson <
>>> hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> What about our Jensen Healey?
>>>> Clif and Deb
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: wendell bain
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:32 PM
>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>>>> 
>>>> Andrew,
>>>> 
>>>> They already accepted Mike's TR-4 and my Morgan. You should fit right
>>>> in.
>>>> 
>>>> Wendell
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Andrew S. Doran wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mike,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would like to do the Novato ride but am worried I'm going to be  the
>>>>> only
>>>>> Triumph there!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since I live just across the San Rafael bridge both are tempting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is anyone interested in attending the car show at the San Rafael
>>>>> yacht
>>>>>> club?
>>>>>> Or is everyone interested in the MG run, and does anyone know our
>>>>>> destination>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>> 64 TR4
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
>>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:43 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I had forgotten about this. I think we should cancel our meet at
> Bad
>>>>>>> Ass
>>>>>>> and join this ride. Does anyone have any objections? If not see  you
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> 10AM
>>>>>>> in Novato.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>>> 58 MGA
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sheryl wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to all...
>>>>>>>> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127
>>>>>>>> San
>>>>>>>> Marin Dr, Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
>>>>>>>> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from  home
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>> good to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sheryl & Dennis
>>>>>>>> 1976 MGB x2
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>>>>>>>> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>>>>> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to
>>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>> to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey
> along
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor  with
>>>>>>>> NOBCC
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive
> to
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
>>>>>>>> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Marty,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG
>>>>>>>>> medalion
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> my Triumph?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>> 64 TR4
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
>>>>>>>>> drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Summer West Marin Tour
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Saturday, July 9
>>>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West  Marin,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> Bud
>>>>>>>>>> Alderson
>>>>>>>>>> and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that.
>>>>>>>>>> Leaving
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> Novato,
>>>>>>>>>> we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over
>>>>>>>>>> Wilson
>>>>>>>>>> Hill,
>>>>>>>>>> and follow
>>>>>>>>>> the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and the
>>>>>>>>>> Panoramic
>>>>>>>>>> Highway
>>>>>>>>>> (Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
>>>>>>>>>> look-around
>>>>>>>>>> and cheese
>>>>>>>>>> sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning organic
>>>>>>>>>> cheese
>>>>>>>>>> making).
>>>>>>>>>> (Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring  the
>>>>>>>>>> Marin
>>>>>>>>>> area
>>>>>>>>>> organic
>>>>>>>>>> industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
>>>>>>>>>> We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a
>>>>>>>>>> stagecoach
>>>>>>>>>> stop
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late
>>>>>>>>>> 1800s.
>>>>>>>>>> Come
>>>>>>>>>> visit with old
>>>>>>>>>> MG friends, and make some new ones.
>>>>>>>>>> There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have  your
>>>>>>>>>> pick:
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> quickest is
>>>>>>>>>> Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy  route,
>>>>>>>>>> follow
>>>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>>>> back over
>>>>>>>>>> Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view
>>>>>>>>>> tour
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> Shoreline Drive
>>>>>>>>>> (Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total
> driving
>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>>>> back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
>>>>>>>>>> When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at  127
>>>>>>>>>> San
>>>>>>>>>> Marin
>>>>>>>>>> Drive in
>>>>>>>>>> Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin
>>>>>>>>>> Drive
>>>>>>>>>> Exit).
>>>>>>>>>> Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or
>>>>>>>>>> Highway
>>>>>>>>>> 37
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> the East
>>>>>>>>>> Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last
>>>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>>>> exit.
>>>>>>>>>> Head west.
>>>>>>>>>> Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
>>>>>>>>>> Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually  from
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> Olema
>>>>>>>>>> Inn s lunch
>>>>>>>>>> menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this  convenience,
>>>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>>> honor
>>>>>>>>>> the group
>>>>>>>>>> gratuity rate.
>>>>>>>>>> Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or
>>>>>>>>>> iralderson at comcast.net;
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>>>> Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian
>>>>>>>>>> <gtwincams at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Clif,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting  because
>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the  car
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> our Lotus club events.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay listing,
>>>>>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>>>>> poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything
>>>>>>>>>>> useful.
>>>>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped  out
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> Weber
>>>>>>>>>>> head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum
>>>>>>>>>>> radiator,
>>>>>>>>>>> headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice,
> and
>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>> sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint,
>>>>>>>>>>> interior
>>>>>>>>>>> materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is
> not
>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this
> price.
>>>>>>>>>> An
>>>>>>>>>>> earlier
>>>>>>>>>>> car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure,  and
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> course
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory
> now,
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>> S4
>>>>>>>>>>> in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe
>>>>>>>>>>> $20-25k,
>>>>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>>>> if there are issues.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring a
>>>>>>>>>>> Trailer
>>>>>>>>>>> recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active.
>>>>>>>>>>> Here's
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> recent BGT...
>>>>>>>>>>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/******06/13/bargain-driver-1-<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1->**owner-**<
>>>>>>>>>>> http://**bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/**13/bargain-<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain->driver-1-owner-**>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://**bringatr**ailer.com/2011/06/13/**<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<h**ttp://bringatrailer.com/<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/>2011/06/13/bargain-driver-1-
>>>>>>>>>> **owner-1974->
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> mgb-gt/>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/******sby/cto/<
>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/>2450180023.html<
>>>>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.**craigslist.org/**sby/cto/<
>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/>2450180023.html>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> .org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> seems cheap.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale in
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Oakland.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Check it out:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/******ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_******Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<**htt**
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/****320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
>>>>>>>>>> Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
>>>>>>>>>> a>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Clif 74 JH
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Thu Jul  7 16:36:51 2011
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 15:36:51 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Wrong email address for RSVPs
Message-ID: <4E163503.3070201@sonic.net>

The email for contacting Bud Alderson is NOT ralderson at comcast.net. 
Turns out to be a Ryan Anderson in Florida so don't cc this address but 
just contact Marty with RSVPs drmartyrayman at gmail.com

Ron
58 MGA

From drmartyrayman at gmail.com  Thu Jul  7 17:18:33 2011
From: drmartyrayman at gmail.com (Martin Sinai Rayman)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 16:18:33 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Wrong email address for RSVPs
In-Reply-To: <4E163503.3070201@sonic.net>
References: <4E163503.3070201@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <CAL99TMr=rE1g9VKSV=6=A+AWL1ziaiWx4KQBgiBJ-Urjzv_a6g@mail.gmail.com>

That is not Bud's address.  It is above.  Marty

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Ron Engelhardt <nobbc at sonic.net> wrote:

> The email for contacting Bud Alderson is NOT ralderson at comcast.net. Turns
> out to be a Ryan Anderson in Florida so don't cc this address but just
> contact Marty with RSVPs drmartyrayman at gmail.com
>
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912 Grand Avenue, #202
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From bettymiller at cds1.net  Fri Jul  8 09:05:23 2011
From: bettymiller at cds1.net (Betty Miller)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 08:05:23 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Wrong email address for RSVPs
In-Reply-To: <CAL99TMr=rE1g9VKSV=6=A+AWL1ziaiWx4KQBgiBJ-Urjzv_a6g@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAL99TMr=rE1g9VKSV=6=A+AWL1ziaiWx4KQBgiBJ-Urjzv_a6g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <024a01cc3d80$76f3d020$64db7060$@cds1.net>

I would like to join you, too.  Sam is busy so my friend, Marianne Sonntag
will be joining me.  
Both for lunch, too.
Will a group be driving down together from Santa Rosa?
Betty Miller, 481-0924
'48 MGTC (almond green)
-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Martin Sinai Rayman
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 4:19 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Cc: Bud Alderson
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Wrong email address for RSVPs

That is not Bud's address.  It is above.  Marty

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Ron Engelhardt <nobbc at sonic.net> wrote:

> The email for contacting Bud Alderson is NOT ralderson at comcast.net. 
> Turns out to be a Ryan Anderson in Florida so don't cc this address 
> but just contact Marty with RSVPs drmartyrayman at gmail.com
>
> Ron
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Fri Jul  8 10:21:14 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 09:21:14 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Wrong email address for RSVPs
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Clif and I will be going from Bad Ass.  The usual place for nobbc.
Anyone who wants to meet us would be great.  Leave B.A. at 9:AM, so meet 
before then.
Clif and Deb Williamson
74 Jensen Healey

-----Original Message----- 
From: Betty Miller
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:05 AM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Cc: 'Bud Alderson' ; drmartyrayman at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Wrong email address for RSVPs

I would like to join you, too.  Sam is busy so my friend, Marianne Sonntag
will be joining me.
Both for lunch, too.
Will a group be driving down together from Santa Rosa?
Betty Miller, 481-0924
'48 MGTC (almond green)
-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Martin Sinai Rayman
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 4:19 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Cc: Bud Alderson
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Wrong email address for RSVPs

That is not Bud's address.  It is above.  Marty

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Ron Engelhardt <nobbc at sonic.net> wrote:

> The email for contacting Bud Alderson is NOT ralderson at comcast.net.
> Turns out to be a Ryan Anderson in Florida so don't cc this address
> but just contact Marty with RSVPs drmartyrayman at gmail.com
>
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From morrisf at SIDWater.org  Fri Jul  8 12:08:21 2011
From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 11:08:21 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] FW:  Fw: Speaking of MG's & Morgan's
Message-ID: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E101F9CB6E@echo01.SID.LOCAL>

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Morris
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:28 AM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Cc: 'drmartyrayman at gmail.com'
Subject: RE: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's & Morgan's

Hi All:  I will be there for the drive and lunch.  See you all at the
Starbucks. I will be flying solo tomorrow and will be heading to Marin
Car and Boat show after lunch.

Cheers,

Frank Morris
63 Jag E OTS

From morrisf at SIDWater.org  Fri Jul  8 10:27:39 2011
From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 09:27:39 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's & Morgan's
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Hi All:  I will be there for the drive and lunch.  See you all at the
Starbucks. I will be flying solo tomorrow and will be heading to Marin
Car and Boat show after lunch.

Cheers,

Frank Morris
63 Jag E OTS

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Mel Cohen
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:35 AM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's & Morgan's

Can you handle one more Morgan and one lunch?

Also, is there any change of going to the Marin Yacht Club for the Car
Show
after lunch?

Mel Cohen, Morgan Plus 8

-----Original Message-----
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On
Behalf Of Sarto Rocheleau
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 10:46 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's

Yes, lunch too.SArto

--- On Thu, 7/7/11, Andrew S. Doran <andrewdoran at berkeley.edu> wrote:

From: Andrew S. Doran <andrewdoran at berkeley.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Cc: "Bud Alderson" <iralderson at comcast.net>
Date: Thursday, July 7, 2011, 8:37 AM

Yes for lunch

Andy
> Andy, For lunch too?  Please "reply all" so Bud can have  ahead count.
> Thanks, MaRty
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Andrew S. Doran
> <andrewdoran at berkeley.edu>wrote:
>
>> Andy, '79 Triumph Spitfire will be there.
>>
>>
>> > The more British diversity, the merrier!  Let us know officially if
>> you
>> > will
>> > be joining in so we can be prepared. Thanks.  Marty & Bud
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson <
>> > hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> What about our Jensen Healey?
>> >> Clif and Deb
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message----- From: wendell bain
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:32 PM
>> >> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>> >>
>> >> Andrew,
>> >>
>> >> They already accepted Mike's TR-4 and my Morgan. You should fit
right
>> >> in.
>> >>
>> >> Wendell
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Andrew S. Doran wrote:
>> >>
>> >>  Mike,
>> >>>
>> >>> I would like to do the Novato ride but am worried I'm going to be
>> the
>> >>> only
>> >>> Triumph there!
>> >>>
>> >>> Since I live just across the San Rafael bridge both are tempting.
>> >>>
>> >>> Andrew
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>  Is anyone interested in attending the car show at the San Rafael
>> >>> yacht
>> >>>> club?
>> >>>> Or is everyone interested in the MG run, and does anyone know
our
>> >>>> destination>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Michael
>> >>>> 64 TR4
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
>> >>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:43 PM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  I had forgotten about this. I think we should cancel our meet
at
>> Bad
>> >>>>> Ass
>> >>>>> and join this ride. Does anyone have any objections? If not see
>> you
>> >>>>> at
>> >>>>> 10AM
>> >>>>> in Novato.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Ron
>> >>>>> 58 MGA
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Sheryl wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>  I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to
>> all...
>> >>>>>> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot,
127
>> >>>>>> San
>> >>>>>> Marin Dr, Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
>> >>>>>> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from
>> home
>> >>>>>> is
>> >>>>>> too
>> >>>>>> good to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Sheryl & Dennis
>> >>>>>> 1976 MGB x2
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>> >>>>>> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> >>>>>> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
>> >>>>>> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided
to
>> >>>>>> open
>> >>>>>> it
>> >>>>>> up
>> >>>>>> to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey
>> along
>> >>>>>> for
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>>> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor
>> with
>> >>>>>> NOBCC
>> >>>>>> but
>> >>>>>> each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the
drive
>> to
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>>> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
>> >>>>>> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it!
Marty*
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea
<mvg1 at att.net>
>> >>>>>>  wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>  Hi Marty,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an
MG
>> >>>>>>> medalion
>> >>>>>>> on
>> >>>>>>> my Triumph?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Michael
>> >>>>>>> 64 TR4
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
>> >>>>>>> drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Summer West Marin Tour
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Saturday, July 9
>> >>>>>>>> Novato
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West
>> Marin,
>> >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>> Bud
>> >>>>>>>> Alderson
>> >>>>>>>> and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just
that.
>> >>>>>>>> Leaving
>> >>>>>>>> from
>> >>>>>>>> Novato,
>> >>>>>>>> we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive
over
>> >>>>>>>> Wilson
>> >>>>>>>> Hill,
>> >>>>>>>> and follow
>> >>>>>>>> the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and
>> the
>> >>>>>>>> Panoramic
>> >>>>>>>> Highway
>> >>>>>>>> (Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45
minute
>> >>>>>>>> look-around
>> >>>>>>>> and cheese
>> >>>>>>>> sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning
>> organic
>> >>>>>>>> cheese
>> >>>>>>>> making).
>> >>>>>>>> (Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring
>> the
>> >>>>>>>> Marin
>> >>>>>>>> area
>> >>>>>>>> organic
>> >>>>>>>> industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
>> >>>>>>>> We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a
>> >>>>>>>> stagecoach
>> >>>>>>>> stop
>> >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>> gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the
late
>> >>>>>>>> 1800s.
>> >>>>>>>> Come
>> >>>>>>>> visit with old
>> >>>>>>>> MG friends, and make some new ones.
>> >>>>>>>> There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have
>> your
>> >>>>>>>> pick:
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> quickest is
>> >>>>>>>> Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy
>> route,
>> >>>>>>>> follow
>> >>>>>>>> Marty
>> >>>>>>>> back over
>> >>>>>>>> Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular
ocean-view
>> >>>>>>>> tour
>> >>>>>>>> on
>> >>>>>>>> Shoreline Drive
>> >>>>>>>> (Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total
>> driving
>> >>>>>>>> time
>> >>>>>>>> from
>> >>>>>>>> Novato
>> >>>>>>>> back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
>> >>>>>>>> When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at
>> 127
>> >>>>>>>> San
>> >>>>>>>> Marin
>> >>>>>>>> Drive in
>> >>>>>>>> Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin
>> >>>>>>>> Drive
>> >>>>>>>> Exit).
>> >>>>>>>> Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or
>> >>>>>>>> Highway
>> >>>>>>>> 37
>> >>>>>>>> from
>> >>>>>>>> the East
>> >>>>>>>> Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the
last
>> >>>>>>>> Novato
>> >>>>>>>> exit.
>> >>>>>>>> Head west.
>> >>>>>>>> Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
>> >>>>>>>> Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually
>> from
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> Olema
>> >>>>>>>> Inn s lunch
>> >>>>>>>> menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this
>> convenience,
>> >>>>>>>> please
>> >>>>>>>> honor
>> >>>>>>>> the group
>> >>>>>>>> gratuity rate.
>> >>>>>>>> Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or
>> >>>>>>>> iralderson at comcast.net;
>> >>>>>>>> or
>> >>>>>>>> Marty
>> >>>>>>>> Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian
>> >>>>>>>> <gtwincams at gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Hi Clif,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting
>> because
>> >>>>>>>>> it's
>> >>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>> local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the
>> car
>> >>>>>>>>> at
>> >>>>>>>>> any
>> >>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>> our Lotus club events.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay
>> listing,
>> >>>>>>>>> especially
>> >>>>>>>>> poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say
anything
>> >>>>>>>>> useful.
>> >>>>>>>>> What
>> >>>>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>>>> see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped
>> out
>> >>>>>>>>> for
>> >>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>> Weber
>> >>>>>>>>> head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket
aluminum
>> >>>>>>>>> radiator,
>> >>>>>>>>> headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty
nice,
>> and
>> >>>>>>>>> it's
>> >>>>>>>>> got
>> >>>>>>>>> sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only
OK.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint,
>> >>>>>>>>> interior
>> >>>>>>>>> materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price
is
>> not
>> >>>>>>>>> only
>> >>>>>>>>> at
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this
>> price.
>> >>>>>>>> An
>> >>>>>>>>> earlier
>> >>>>>>>>> car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure,
>> and
>> >>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>> course
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory
>> now,
>> >>>>>>>>> but
>> >>>>>>>>> an
>> >>>>>>>>> S4
>> >>>>>>>>> in the condition this appears to be in should sell for
maybe
>> >>>>>>>>> $20-25k,
>> >>>>>>>>> less
>> >>>>>>>>> if there are issues.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on
Bring
>> a
>> >>>>>>>>> Trailer
>> >>>>>>>>> recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are
active.
>> >>>>>>>>> Here's
>> >>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>> recent BGT...
>> >>>>>>>>>
http://bringatrailer.com/2011/******06/13/bargain-driver-1-<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1->**owner-**<
>> >>>>>>>>> http://**bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/**13/bargain-<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain->driver-1-owner-**>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://**bringatr**ailer.com/2011/06/13/**<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<h**ttp://bringatrailer.com/<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/>2011/06/13/bargain-driver-1-
>> >>>>>>>> **owner-1974->
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> mgb-gt/>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/******sby/cto/<
>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/>2450180023.html<
>> >>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.**craigslist.org/**sby/cto/<
>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/>2450180023.html>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>  <http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> .org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  seems cheap.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>>>>>> Greg
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for
sale
>> in
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>  Oakland.
>> >>>>>>>>>> Check it out:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
http://cgi.ebay.com/******ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>> >>>>>>>>>> **
>> >>>>>>>>>>
<http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_******Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<**htt**
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/****320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
>> >>>>>>>> Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
>> >>>>>>>> a>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  Clif 74 JH
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>  ______________________________******_________________
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> ______________________________******_________________
>> >>>>>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>> Pediatric Dentistry*
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>> >>>>>>>> San Rafael, CA 94901-3538
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From giannilarosa at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jul  8 12:22:37 2011
From: giannilarosa at sbcglobal.net (gianni)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 11:22:37 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
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Gianni and Julia will be there and will join you for lunch as well. 

Gianni,  62 Red MGA MkII. (Rosie)   

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-----Original message-----
From: Roland Quintero <rolquinmac at me.com>
To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Jul 7, 2011 19:43:03 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's

Ok. Jeanne and I will be there for lunch.  Hello Jennifer...  Roland.  
Quintero

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On Jul 7, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Andy Preston <andypreston at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Marty both Marla and I will be there for lunch too.  Jennifer Orum from BC
> will also be joining us and will be there for lunch.
> 
> Andy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]  
On
> Behalf Of Martin Sinai Rayman
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:11 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Cc: Bud Alderson
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
> 
> Andy, For lunch too?  Please "reply all" so Bud can have  ahead count.
> Thanks, MaRty
> 
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Andrew S. Doran
> <andrewdoran at berkeley.edu>wrote:
> 
>> Andy, '79 Triumph Spitfire will be there.
>> 
>> 
>>> The more British diversity, the merrier!  Let us know officially if you
>>> will
>>> be joining in so we can be prepared. Thanks.  Marty & Bud
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson <
>>> hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> What about our Jensen Healey?
>>>> Clif and Deb
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: wendell bain
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:32 PM
>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>>>> 
>>>> Andrew,
>>>> 
>>>> They already accepted Mike's TR-4 and my Morgan. You should fit right
>>>> in.
>>>> 
>>>> Wendell
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Andrew S. Doran wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mike,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would like to do the Novato ride but am worried I'm going to be  the
>>>>> only
>>>>> Triumph there!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since I live just across the San Rafael bridge both are tempting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is anyone interested in attending the car show at the San Rafael
>>>>> yacht
>>>>>> club?
>>>>>> Or is everyone interested in the MG run, and does anyone know our
>>>>>> destination>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>> 64 TR4
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
>>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:43 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I had forgotten about this. I think we should cancel our meet at
> Bad
>>>>>>> Ass
>>>>>>> and join this ride. Does anyone have any objections? If not see  you
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> 10AM
>>>>>>> in Novato.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>>> 58 MGA
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sheryl wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to all...
>>>>>>>> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127
>>>>>>>> San
>>>>>>>> Marin Dr, Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
>>>>>>>> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from  home
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>> good to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sheryl & Dennis
>>>>>>>> 1976 MGB x2
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>>>>>>>> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>>>>> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to
>>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>> to all Brits.  There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey
> along
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon).  It's rare that I get to motor  with
>>>>>>>> NOBCC
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> each time I have, it's always been a hoot.  I did love the drive
> to
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
>>>>>>>> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Marty,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG
>>>>>>>>> medalion
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> my Triumph?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>> 64 TR4
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
>>>>>>>>> drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Summer West Marin Tour
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Saturday, July 9
>>>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West  Marin,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> Bud
>>>>>>>>>> Alderson
>>>>>>>>>> and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that.
>>>>>>>>>> Leaving
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> Novato,
>>>>>>>>>> we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over
>>>>>>>>>> Wilson
>>>>>>>>>> Hill,
>>>>>>>>>> and follow
>>>>>>>>>> the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and the
>>>>>>>>>> Panoramic
>>>>>>>>>> Highway
>>>>>>>>>> (Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
>>>>>>>>>> look-around
>>>>>>>>>> and cheese
>>>>>>>>>> sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning organic
>>>>>>>>>> cheese
>>>>>>>>>> making).
>>>>>>>>>> (Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring  the
>>>>>>>>>> Marin
>>>>>>>>>> area
>>>>>>>>>> organic
>>>>>>>>>> industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
>>>>>>>>>> We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a
>>>>>>>>>> stagecoach
>>>>>>>>>> stop
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late
>>>>>>>>>> 1800s.
>>>>>>>>>> Come
>>>>>>>>>> visit with old
>>>>>>>>>> MG friends, and make some new ones.
>>>>>>>>>> There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101   have  your
>>>>>>>>>> pick:
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> quickest is
>>>>>>>>>> Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy  route,
>>>>>>>>>> follow
>>>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>>>> back over
>>>>>>>>>> Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view
>>>>>>>>>> tour
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> Shoreline Drive
>>>>>>>>>> (Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total
> driving
>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>>>> back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
>>>>>>>>>> When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at  127
>>>>>>>>>> San
>>>>>>>>>> Marin
>>>>>>>>>> Drive in
>>>>>>>>>> Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin
>>>>>>>>>> Drive
>>>>>>>>>> Exit).
>>>>>>>>>> Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or
>>>>>>>>>> Highway
>>>>>>>>>> 37
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> the East
>>>>>>>>>> Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last
>>>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>>>> exit.
>>>>>>>>>> Head west.
>>>>>>>>>> Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
>>>>>>>>>> Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually  from
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> Olema
>>>>>>>>>> Inn s lunch
>>>>>>>>>> menu   they will prepare separate checks. For this  convenience,
>>>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>>> honor
>>>>>>>>>> the group
>>>>>>>>>> gratuity rate.
>>>>>>>>>> Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or
>>>>>>>>>> iralderson at comcast.net;
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>>>> Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian
>>>>>>>>>> <gtwincams at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Clif,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting  because
>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the  car
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> our Lotus club events.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay listing,
>>>>>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>>>>> poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything
>>>>>>>>>>> useful.
>>>>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped  out
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> Weber
>>>>>>>>>>> head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum
>>>>>>>>>>> radiator,
>>>>>>>>>>> headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice,
> and
>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>> sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint,
>>>>>>>>>>> interior
>>>>>>>>>>> materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is
> not
>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this
> price.
>>>>>>>>>> An
>>>>>>>>>>> earlier
>>>>>>>>>>> car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure,  and
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> course
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory
> now,
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>> S4
>>>>>>>>>>> in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe
>>>>>>>>>>> $20-25k,
>>>>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>>>> if there are issues.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring a
>>>>>>>>>>> Trailer
>>>>>>>>>>> recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active.
>>>>>>>>>>> Here's
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> recent BGT...
>>>>>>>>>>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/******06/13/bargain-driver-1-<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1->**owner-**<
>>>>>>>>>>> http://**bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/**13/bargain-<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain->driver-1-owner-**>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://**bringatr**ailer.com/2011/06/13/**<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<h**ttp://bringatrailer.com/<
>> http://bringatrailer.com/>2011/06/13/bargain-driver-1-
>>>>>>>>>> **owner-1974->
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> mgb-gt/>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/******sby/cto/<
>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/>2450180023.html<
>>>>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.**craigslist.org/**sby/cto/<
>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/>2450180023.html>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> .org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> seems cheap.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale in
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Oakland.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Check it out:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/******ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_******Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<**htt**
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/****320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
>>>>>>>>>> Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
>>>>>>>>>> a>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Clif 74 JH
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>>>>>>>>>> Pediatric Dentistry*
>>>>>>>>>> 912 Grand Avenue, #202
>>>>>>>>>> San Rafael, CA 94901-3538
>>>>>>>>>> Voice: 415.459.1444
>>>>>>>>>> FAX:   415.459.1320
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Sat Jul  9 15:59:35 2011
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 14:59:35 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Garage for Rent
Message-ID: <000501cc3e83$7e0079a0$7a016ce0$@com>

Once again I have a large 2 car Garage for rent in lovely downtown Graton.

 

2 big roll up doors, one electrically operated.

 

Will fit many LBC. For storage only

 

$300 per month.  (Greg desperately needs this )

 

Shoot me a line if interested.

 

JOHN KENNER

 

510 231 6803 P

415 806 2457 C

510 231 6805 F

 

 

tamalpais_s

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From hardt at sonic.net  Sat Jul  9 18:15:20 2011
From: hardt at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 17:15:20 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Short Video of todays ride
Message-ID: <4E18EF18.7050804@sonic.net>

Posted on youtube.com: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=869rxJ8iY5k

Ron
58 MGA

From nobbc at sonic.net  Sat Jul  9 18:00:09 2011
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 17:00:09 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] New pics
Message-ID: <4E18EB89.50507@sonic.net>

Taken on todays joint ride with MGOC and SSTS, posted on Nobbc's 
facebook page http://www.facebook.com/groups/300961486733?ap=1 . Or if 
the link doesn't work, search for Nobbc on Facebook.

We had great weather and an exceptional turnout, somewhere around three 
dozen cars!

Ron
58 MGA

From nobbc at sonic.net  Sat Jul  9 19:55:05 2011
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 18:55:05 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Garage for Rent
In-Reply-To: <000501cc3e83$7e0079a0$7a016ce0$@com>
References: <000501cc3e83$7e0079a0$7a016ce0$@com>
Message-ID: <4E190679.1040608@sonic.net>

hey...Where were you today? Missed a good one.

Ron
58 MGA

John Kenner wrote:

> Once again I have a large 2 car Garage for rent in lovely downtown Graton.
> 
>  
> 
> 2 big roll up doors, one electrically operated.
> 
>  
> 
> Will fit many LBC. For storage only
> 
>  
> 
> $300 per month.  (Greg desperately needs this )
> 
>  
> 
> Shoot me a line if interested.
> 
>  
> 
> JOHN KENNER
> 
>  
> 
> 510 231 6803 P
> 
> 415 806 2457 C
> 
> 510 231 6805 F
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> tamalpais_s
> 
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif]
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From wbain at sonic.net  Sun Jul 10 13:50:38 2011
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:50:38 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Short Video of todays ride
In-Reply-To: <4E18EF18.7050804@sonic.net>
References: <4E18EF18.7050804@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <94E231F5-E2AE-4825-83F0-F813978671EF@sonic.net>

Can only see about half the pics. Some ad is in the way throughout the
whole display. What's with that???

Wendell


On Jul 9, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote:

> Posted on youtube.com: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=869rxJ8iY5k
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
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From drmartyrayman at gmail.com  Sun Jul 10 14:25:23 2011
From: drmartyrayman at gmail.com (Martin)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:25:23 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] Martin shared an album with you.
Message-ID: <90e6ba1efdecc7880204a7bcdd9f@google.com>

Fabulous day!  Marty

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/sredir?uname=drmartyrayman&target=ALBUM&id=5627803412710006657&authkey=Gv1sRgCP7-kKm_7vawPg&invite=CMm884gJ&feat=email

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From hawkview at sonic.net  Sun Jul 10 15:26:02 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:26:02 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Short Video of todays ride
In-Reply-To: <94E231F5-E2AE-4825-83F0-F813978671EF@sonic.net>
References: <4E18EF18.7050804@sonic.net>
	<94E231F5-E2AE-4825-83F0-F813978671EF@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <7DBF83276110494888769C01B7AAC801@williamsonPC>

No ad at I my end.
Clif

-----Original Message----- 
From: wendell bain
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:50 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Short Video of todays ride

Can only see about half the pics. Some ad is in the way throughout the
whole display. What's with that???

Wendell


On Jul 9, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote:

> Posted on youtube.com: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=869rxJ8iY5k
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Sun Jul 10 17:16:52 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:16:52 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] New pics
In-Reply-To: <4E18EB89.50507@sonic.net>
References: <4E18EB89.50507@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <757D8E6E2EA141C896686B34CE29C209@williamsonPC>

Thanks once again for the great pics and video.
And thanks to the MG club for a great ride.  Loved the Mt Tam section. 
Beautiful.
Clif and Deborah  74 JH


-----Original Message----- 
From: Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 5:00 PM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: [Nobbc] New pics

Taken on todays joint ride with MGOC and SSTS, posted on Nobbc's
facebook page http://www.facebook.com/groups/300961486733?ap=1 . Or if
the link doesn't work, search for Nobbc on Facebook.

We had great weather and an exceptional turnout, somewhere around three
dozen cars!

Ron
58 MGA
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Sun Jul 10 17:53:06 2011
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:53:06 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Short Video of todays ride
In-Reply-To: <94E231F5-E2AE-4825-83F0-F813978671EF@sonic.net>
References: <4E18EF18.7050804@sonic.net>
	<94E231F5-E2AE-4825-83F0-F813978671EF@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <4E1A3B62.5030103@sonic.net>

Errr, I don't know...I see no ads just the pics. Is the ad trying to get 
you to join ebay or something?. If you're talking about the video, it's 
on youtube and shouldn't have an ad over it.

Ron
58 MGA

wendell bain wrote:
> Can only see about half the pics. Some ad is in the way throughout the
> whole display. What's with that???
> 
> Wendell
> 
> 
> On Jul 9, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote:
> 
>> Posted on youtube.com: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=869rxJ8iY5k
>>
>> Ron
>> 58 MGA
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From wbain at sonic.net  Sun Jul 10 19:01:03 2011
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 18:01:03 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] New pics
In-Reply-To: <4E18EB89.50507@sonic.net>
References: <4E18EB89.50507@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <021C2B3F-7531-4500-88DE-111C6BCFD7C6@sonic.net>

Can only see about half the pics. Some ad is in the way throughout the
whole display.
Tried looking for nobbc on facebook and connected but it either displays
itsy bitsy pics or only half the image with an ad in the middle. This  
is the
still pics only, not the short video.

Wendell

On Jul 9, 2011, at 5:00 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote:

> Taken on todays joint ride with MGOC and SSTS, posted on Nobbc's  
> facebook page http://www.facebook.com/groups/300961486733?ap=1 . Or  
> if the link doesn't work, search for Nobbc on Facebook.
>
> We had great weather and an exceptional turnout, somewhere around  
> three dozen cars!
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From rolquinmac at me.com  Sun Jul 10 19:50:12 2011
From: rolquinmac at me.com (Roland Quintero)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 18:50:12 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Martin shared an album with you.
In-Reply-To: <90e6ba1efdecc7880204a7bcdd9f@google.com>
References: <90e6ba1efdecc7880204a7bcdd9f@google.com>
Message-ID: <91A6A6CC-21ED-4921-8EE1-5600C7BB5241@me.com>

Thanks to Marty and the tailgunner...for a great drive.


On Jul 10, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Martin wrote:

> Fabulous day!  Marty
> 
> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/sredir?uname=drmartyrayman&target=ALBUM&id=5627803412710006657&authkey=Gv1sRgCP7-kKm_7vawPg&invite=CMm884gJ&feat=email
> 
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of picasaweblogo-en_US.gif]
> 
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Sun Jul 10 20:51:15 2011
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:51:15 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] New pics
In-Reply-To: <021C2B3F-7531-4500-88DE-111C6BCFD7C6@sonic.net>
References: <4E18EB89.50507@sonic.net>
	<021C2B3F-7531-4500-88DE-111C6BCFD7C6@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <4E1A6523.50804@sonic.net>

What happens when you look at other picture on Facebook? Do they show up 
  ok or with an ad? You may have some kind of infection or ???

Ron
58 MGA

wendell bain wrote:

> Can only see about half the pics. Some ad is in the way throughout the
> whole display.
> Tried looking for nobbc on facebook and connected but it either displays
> itsy bitsy pics or only half the image with an ad in the middle. This  
> is the
> still pics only, not the short video.
> 
> Wendell

From don at napanet.net  Mon Jul 11 09:47:04 2011
From: don at napanet.net (Don)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:47:04 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Prisoner escapee: Mini Moke from cult TV series discovered
 in a Dutch barn
Message-ID: <20110711154716.3AD67AE685@mail.dsl.napanet.net>

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2011/07/11/prisoner-escapee-mini-moke-from-cult-tv-series-discovered-in-a-dutch-barn/?refer=news

This Moke has suffered in the interim since the TV series was 
made.  I wonder what happened to the Lotus Super 7.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Don Scott
Calistoga
1955 MGTF
1962 MGA Mk 2
1973 MGB GT (selling)
1963-7 MGB (seeking)
Misc. Japanese cars

From dan at drummondlaw.com  Mon Jul 11 12:20:03 2011
From: dan at drummondlaw.com (Daniel Drummond)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:20:03 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] New pics
In-Reply-To: <4E1A6523.50804@sonic.net>
References: <4E18EB89.50507@sonic.net>
	<021C2B3F-7531-4500-88DE-111C6BCFD7C6@sonic.net>
	<4E1A6523.50804@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E08FD87C081@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local>

FYI, Everything is OK on my end.  I get the pic and the video just fine.

Dan
66 MGB, et al.

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 7:51 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] New pics

What happens when you look at other picture on Facebook? Do they show up
  ok or with an ad? You may have some kind of infection or ???

Ron
58 MGA

wendell bain wrote:

> Can only see about half the pics. Some ad is in the way throughout the 
> whole display.
> Tried looking for nobbc on facebook and connected but it either 
> displays itsy bitsy pics or only half the image with an ad in the 
> middle. This is the still pics only, not the short video.
> 
> Wendell
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From wbain at sonic.net  Mon Jul 11 15:03:46 2011
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:03:46 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] New pics
In-Reply-To: <4E1A6523.50804@sonic.net>
References: <4E18EB89.50507@sonic.net>
	<021C2B3F-7531-4500-88DE-111C6BCFD7C6@sonic.net>
	<4E1A6523.50804@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <2557D474-236A-47DB-A262-02B817520C91@sonic.net>

I have never had this problem on facebook, or anywhere else. I am  
also on a Mac.
Generally you ignore virus warnings.
The ad that comes up is for Reverse Mortgage Calc. Right through the  
middle of the image.
I tried some of the other images from previous events and the same  
thing happens.
Who needs this???

Wendell

On Jul 10, 2011, at 7:51 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote:

> What happens when you look at other picture on Facebook? Do they  
> show up  ok or with an ad? You may have some kind of infection or ???
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> wendell bain wrote:
>
>> Can only see about half the pics. Some ad is in the way throughout  
>> the
>> whole display.
>> Tried looking for nobbc on facebook and connected but it either  
>> displays
>> itsy bitsy pics or only half the image with an ad in the middle.  
>> This  is the
>> still pics only, not the short video.
>> Wendell
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From mvg1 at att.net  Mon Jul 11 16:30:54 2011
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:30:54 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] New pics
References: <4E18EB89.50507@sonic.net><021C2B3F-7531-4500-88DE-111C6BCFD7C6@sonic.net><4E1A6523.50804@sonic.net>
	<2557D474-236A-47DB-A262-02B817520C91@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <4E8496F60C014A41AA3CDBD7C16E161F@mike>

Wendell,

I didn't make the ride Saturday, (working again) but I did get the pics and 
video with no problem. Looks like I missed a good one.

Michael
64 TR4

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "wendell bain" <wbain at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] New pics


>I have never had this problem on facebook, or anywhere else. I am  also on 
>a Mac.
> Generally you ignore virus warnings.
> The ad that comes up is for Reverse Mortgage Calc. Right through the 
> middle of the image.
> I tried some of the other images from previous events and the same  thing 
> happens.
> Who needs this???
>
> Wendell
>
> On Jul 10, 2011, at 7:51 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote:
>
>> What happens when you look at other picture on Facebook? Do they  show up 
>> ok or with an ad? You may have some kind of infection or ???
>>
>> Ron
>> 58 MGA
>>
>> wendell bain wrote:
>>
>>> Can only see about half the pics. Some ad is in the way throughout  the
>>> whole display.
>>> Tried looking for nobbc on facebook and connected but it either 
>>> displays
>>> itsy bitsy pics or only half the image with an ad in the middle.  This 
>>> is the
>>> still pics only, not the short video.
>>> Wendell
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From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jul 12 19:05:56 2011
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (Andy Preston)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:05:56 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] VW mechanic wanted
Message-ID: <9BE8B2229DEF43F68391770C07E61DFA@BonusRoom>

Hi guys and gals, the timing belt on my daughters VW Jetta broke (it was
supposedly replaced 50k miles ago) so I just fitted a new timing belt with
great hope that the pistons didn't hit the valves but they did so I now have
a 2 cylinder VW Jetta.  I have found a used engine so does anyone have any
leads on a reasonable VW mechanic or anyone else who could replace the
engine.

 

I told her to stay with British cars but she wouldn't listen.

 

Thanks

 

Andy

From dawsonchurch at gmail.com  Tue Jul 12 19:37:02 2011
From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:37:02 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Disengaging Triumph Clutch
Message-ID: <CAGEfHZoOSwO0w43FptujLwgfUZebbkKVuqV-b+ePeDAhAtOT_A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi NOBBC Friends,

The clutch on my 79 Spitfire won't disengage, and I'd appreciate
troubleshooting tips.

I recently replaced the clutch, pressure plate and throwout bearing, it all
worked fine. Then the engine blew, and this last weekend my mechanic friend
Nick put in an engine from another 1500. The flywheel etc from the donor car
looked fine. Today he also rebuilt the clutch master cylinder, checked the
slave, and bled the system; there's plenty of fluid pressure. Everything
works as advertised, but the clutch is still not disengaging fully, even
with all the adjustments at maximum. Something's sticking, and for the life
of us we can't figure out what.

Informed opinions would be appreciated!

Thanks,

Dawson






On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Andy Preston <andypreston at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Hi guys and gals, the timing belt on my daughters VW Jetta broke (it was
> supposedly replaced 50k miles ago) so I just fitted a new timing belt with
> great hope that the pistons didn't hit the valves but they did so I now
> have
> a 2 cylinder VW Jetta.  I have found a used engine so does anyone have any
> leads on a reasonable VW mechanic or anyone else who could replace the
> engine.
>
>
>
> I told her to stay with British cars but she wouldn't listen.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Andy
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-- 
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From budscars at comcast.net  Tue Jul 12 20:17:25 2011
From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:17:25 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Disengaging Triumph Clutch
References: <CAGEfHZoOSwO0w43FptujLwgfUZebbkKVuqV-b+ePeDAhAtOT_A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E156BFFA17AA47A59CC52BC45F2ECD89@Bud>

Dawson....If there were small washers(spacers) between the pressure plate 
and the flywheel (on the bolts) during the previous assembly, and you put 
those washers on the outside of the pressure plate this time..that will give 
you not enough travel...Even 1/16" there will make a difference.
RB

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dawson Church" <dawsonchurch at gmail.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>; "Raw Man" 
<manoraw108 at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:37 PM
Subject: [Nobbc] Disengaging Triumph Clutch


> Hi NOBBC Friends,
>
> The clutch on my 79 Spitfire won't disengage, and I'd appreciate
> troubleshooting tips.
>
> I recently replaced the clutch, pressure plate and throwout bearing, it 
> all
> worked fine. Then the engine blew, and this last weekend my mechanic 
> friend
> Nick put in an engine from another 1500. The flywheel etc from the donor 
> car
> looked fine. Today he also rebuilt the clutch master cylinder, checked the
> slave, and bled the system; there's plenty of fluid pressure. Everything
> works as advertised, but the clutch is still not disengaging fully, even
> with all the adjustments at maximum. Something's sticking, and for the 
> life
> of us we can't figure out what.
>
> Informed opinions would be appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dawson
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Andy Preston 
> <andypreston at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>
>> Hi guys and gals, the timing belt on my daughters VW Jetta broke (it was
>> supposedly replaced 50k miles ago) so I just fitted a new timing belt 
>> with
>> great hope that the pistons didn't hit the valves but they did so I now
>> have
>> a 2 cylinder VW Jetta.  I have found a used engine so does anyone have 
>> any
>> leads on a reasonable VW mechanic or anyone else who could replace the
>> engine.
>>
>>
>>
>> I told her to stay with British cars but she wouldn't listen.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Andy
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>
>
> -- 
> Dawson
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From dawsonchurch at gmail.com  Tue Jul 12 20:21:08 2011
From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:21:08 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Triumph Clutch Solved!
Message-ID: <CAGEfHZoVrqL0X6YgNb28aFC5=pMRDFqbq2xDn2LhGsSc+4AEmA@mail.gmail.com>

Turns out it was the slave cylinder. It had slipped slightly out of the
adjusting groove.

-- 
Dawson

From mowog at sonic.net  Tue Jul 12 20:22:51 2011
From: mowog at sonic.net (Rod Williams)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:22:51 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] VW mechanic wanted
In-Reply-To: <9BE8B2229DEF43F68391770C07E61DFA@BonusRoom>
References: <9BE8B2229DEF43F68391770C07E61DFA@BonusRoom>
Message-ID: <A5ADFF94-E260-4AEA-8A87-2C17C591F0C5@sonic.net>

On Jul 12, 2011, at 6:05 PM, Andy Preston wrote:
> leads on a reasonable VW mechanic or anyone else who could replace the
> engine.

"The Garage" in Petaluma on Bodega. Good guys. Took over the shop from the
original German owner.
There's also another shop that specializes in water cooled VWs behind HSC
Electronics in Rohnert Park, but I can't remember their name. Supposed to be
very good.
--
Rod Williams
Petaluma, California
1967 MGB

From CullivanCats at aol.com  Tue Jul 12 20:43:01 2011
From: CullivanCats at aol.com (CullivanCats at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:43:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] VW mechanic wanted
Message-ID: <9aba.3603e1b5.3b4e6035@aol.com>

Ogden Imports in Vallejo on 29.
 
 
In a message dated 7/12/2011 7:40:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
mowog at sonic.net writes:

On Jul  12, 2011, at 6:05 PM, Andy Preston wrote:
> leads on a reasonable VW  mechanic or anyone else who could replace the
> engine.

"The  Garage" in Petaluma on Bodega. Good guys. Took over the shop from  the
original German owner.
There's also another shop that specializes in  water cooled VWs behind HSC
Electronics in Rohnert Park, but I can't  remember their name. Supposed to 
be
very good.
--
Rod  Williams
Petaluma, California
1967  MGB
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From doctoddwright at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 13 19:49:24 2011
From: doctoddwright at sbcglobal.net (Todd Wright)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 18:49:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] VW mechanic wanted
In-Reply-To: <9BE8B2229DEF43F68391770C07E61DFA@BonusRoom>
Message-ID: <1310608164.98975.YahooMailClassic@web83002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Andy,

  Mike's Import and Domestic auto at 516 Santa Rosa ave across from Jullard
park...he replaced the clutch on my 2000 passat and was reasonable....he has
also done some work on my MG as he owns a few of them...kind of a crazy shop
but turned my passat around quickly...his number is 528 2715

Todd Wright

1966 MGB

--- On Tue, 7/12/11, Andy Preston <andypreston at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: Andy Preston <andypreston at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [Nobbc] VW mechanic wanted
To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 6:05 PM

Hi guys and gals, the timing belt on my daughters VW Jetta broke (it was
supposedly replaced 50k miles ago) so I just fitted a new timing belt with
great hope that the pistons didn't hit the valves but they did so I now have
a 2 cylinder VW Jetta.  I have found a used engine so does anyone have any
leads on a reasonable VW mechanic or anyone else who could replace the
engine.



I told her to stay with British cars but she wouldn't listen.



Thanks



Andy
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Wed Jul 13 20:56:44 2011
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:56:44 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] VW mechanic wanted
In-Reply-To: <1310608164.98975.YahooMailClassic@web83002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1310608164.98975.YahooMailClassic@web83002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4E1E5AEC.8060405@sonic.net>

And he is a member of Nobbc although he hasn't been on a ride in years!

Ron
58 MGA

Todd Wright wrote:
> Andy,
> 
>   Mike's Import and Domestic auto at 516 Santa Rosa ave across from Jullard
> park...he replaced the clutch on my 2000 passat and was reasonable....he has
> also done some work on my MG as he owns a few of them...kind of a crazy shop
> but turned my passat around quickly...his number is 528 2715
> 
> Todd Wright

From bettymiller at cds1.net  Wed Jul 13 22:27:09 2011
From: bettymiller at cds1.net (Betty Miller)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:27:09 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] VW mechanic wanted
In-Reply-To: <1310608164.98975.YahooMailClassic@web83002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <9BE8B2229DEF43F68391770C07E61DFA@BonusRoom>
	<1310608164.98975.YahooMailClassic@web83002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <020801cc41de$4f488680$edd99380$@cds1.net>

I have also used Mike's recently on my TC.
Betty Miller

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Todd Wright
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 6:49 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] VW mechanic wanted

Andy,

  Mike's Import and Domestic auto at 516 Santa Rosa ave across from Jullard
park...he replaced the clutch on my 2000 passat and was reasonable....he has
also done some work on my MG as he owns a few of them...kind of a crazy shop
but turned my passat around quickly...his number is 528 2715

Todd Wright

1966 MGB

--- On Tue, 7/12/11, Andy Preston <andypreston at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: Andy Preston <andypreston at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [Nobbc] VW mechanic wanted
To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 6:05 PM

Hi guys and gals, the timing belt on my daughters VW Jetta broke (it was
supposedly replaced 50k miles ago) so I just fitted a new timing belt with
great hope that the pistons didn't hit the valves but they did so I now have
a 2 cylinder VW Jetta.  I have found a used engine so does anyone have any
leads on a reasonable VW mechanic or anyone else who could replace the
engine.



I told her to stay with British cars but she wouldn't listen.



Thanks



Andy
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Sun Jul 17 09:12:07 2011
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 08:12:07 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Larry
Message-ID: <000601cc4493$e5228db0$af67a910$@com>

Hey All,

 

For some strange unexplained reason Larry Gardini does not

receive emails I send him either directly or if

I post through here.

 

Does anyone have his mailing address so I can send him the $40 I borrowed

from him yesterday at Autocross? Unfortunately I showed up with no money

and had to borrow it from him so I could race.

 

Thanks

 

JOHN KENNER

 

510 231 6803 P

415 806 2457 C

510 231 6805 F

 

 

tamalpais_s

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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Sun Jul 17 09:17:37 2011
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 08:17:37 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Skaggs Spring Road
Message-ID: <000c01cc4494$aa3fd3a0$febf7ae0$@com>

I was told by one of my motorcycle buddies that Skaggs Spring Road has
become

so popular with the fast bike crowd that they are trailering their race
bikes out there and run the road

to the bridge and back. He said the county is going to be putting speed
bumps on the road

to put this practice to an end. Anyone else heard anything? Hopefully we can
have our anniversary ride

the first weekend of the month and maybe they will not have done that yet.

 

JOHN KENNER

 

510 231 6803 P

415 806 2457 C

510 231 6805 F

 

 

tamalpais_s

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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Sun Jul 17 09:42:58 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 08:42:58 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Skaggs Spring Road
In-Reply-To: <000c01cc4494$aa3fd3a0$febf7ae0$@com>
References: <000c01cc4494$aa3fd3a0$febf7ae0$@com>
Message-ID: <4E230302.8070905@gmail.com>

Yeah, it's pretty well known it's used, and often abused by motorcycles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5s0UkgLo_4
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20110629/ARTICLES/110629393
Looks like rumble strips, not speed bumps will be used.
Greg Tatarian





On 7/17/2011 8:17 AM, John Kenner wrote:
> I was told by one of my motorcycle buddies that Skaggs Spring Road has
> become
>
> so popular with the fast bike crowd that they are trailering their race
> bikes out there and run the road
>
> to the bridge and back. He said the county is going to be putting speed
> bumps on the road
>
> to put this practice to an end. Anyone else heard anything? Hopefully we can
> have our anniversary ride
>
> the first weekend of the month and maybe they will not have done that yet.
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER

From nobbc at sonic.net  Sun Jul 17 09:54:56 2011
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 08:54:56 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Skaggs Spring Road
In-Reply-To: <000c01cc4494$aa3fd3a0$febf7ae0$@com>
References: <000c01cc4494$aa3fd3a0$febf7ae0$@com>
Message-ID: <4E2305D0.5080803@sonic.net>

There was an article in the Press Democrat about it. I don't recall a 
mention of speed bumps but the CHP is setting up speed traps. Maybe we 
should go out King Ridge instead of Skagg Springs, comments?

Ron
58 MGA

John Kenner wrote:
> I was told by one of my motorcycle buddies that Skaggs Spring Road has
> become
> 
> so popular with the fast bike crowd that they are trailering their race
> bikes out there and run the road
> 
> to the bridge and back. He said the county is going to be putting speed
> bumps on the road
> 
> to put this practice to an end. Anyone else heard anything? Hopefully we can
> have our anniversary ride
> 
> the first weekend of the month and maybe they will not have done that yet.
> 
>  
> 
> JOHN KENNER
> 
>  
> 
> 510 231 6803 P
> 
> 415 806 2457 C
> 
> 510 231 6805 F
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> tamalpais_s
> 
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif]
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Sun Jul 17 12:14:39 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:14:39 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Skaggs Spring Road
In-Reply-To: <4E2305D0.5080803@sonic.net>
References: <000c01cc4494$aa3fd3a0$febf7ae0$@com> <4E2305D0.5080803@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <687F3A86754A4E2AB6AF4A089C5E2EF9@williamsonPC>

Really enjoyed Skaggs last year, but King Ridge sounds good too.
I don't think rumble strips or speed bumps will slow down the bikes.  More 
like make it more fun.  I tried to get the county to set up speed bumps on 
Piezzi Rd when we live there.  They said it was illegal in the county, but 
the city was OK.  Sent some info that says in the county it is not legal to 
use speed bumps to control traffic.  I can't think of a place on a county 
road that has speed bumps, but as soon as an area becomes part of the city, 
speed bumps go in where there is a potential speeding problem.


-----Original Message----- 
From: Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 8:54 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Skaggs Spring Road

There was an article in the Press Democrat about it. I don't recall a
mention of speed bumps but the CHP is setting up speed traps. Maybe we
should go out King Ridge instead of Skagg Springs, comments?

Ron
58 MGA

John Kenner wrote:
> I was told by one of my motorcycle buddies that Skaggs Spring Road has
> become
>
> so popular with the fast bike crowd that they are trailering their race
> bikes out there and run the road
>
> to the bridge and back. He said the county is going to be putting speed
> bumps on the road
>
> to put this practice to an end. Anyone else heard anything? Hopefully we 
> can
> have our anniversary ride
>
> the first weekend of the month and maybe they will not have done that yet.
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
>
>
> 510 231 6803 P
>
> 415 806 2457 C
>
> 510 231 6805 F
>
>
>
> tamalpais_s
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of 
> image001.gif]
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From don at napanet.net  Tue Jul 19 13:31:06 2011
From: don at napanet.net (Don)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:31:06 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGA shock absorber cores
Message-ID: <20110719193119.5F1E6AE69B@mail.dsl.napanet.net>

>Cleaning out junk, I found several of these things.  If someone 
>wants them, they are free for the taking.
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Don Scott
>Calistoga CA USA
>1955 MGTF
>1962 MGA Mk 2
>1973 MGB GT (selling)
>1963-7 MGB (seeking)
>Misc. Japanese cars

From nobbc at sonic.net  Tue Jul 19 15:10:05 2011
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:10:05 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Ride Reminder
Message-ID: <4E25F2AD.1060404@sonic.net>

Our next ride is scheduled for this coming Saturday 7/23. If anyone has 
a destination suggestion let's hear it! Otherwise, we will meet at Bad 
Ass at 10AM and the group present will decide.

Ron
58 MGA

From jkenner at tamcab.com  Tue Jul 19 16:24:16 2011
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:24:16 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Ride Reminder
In-Reply-To: <4E25F2AD.1060404@sonic.net>
References: <4E25F2AD.1060404@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <002f01cc4662$99a8d620$ccfa8260$@com>

I want to go to Skaggs Springs Road and chase motorcycles!!!!!!!!

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806 2457 C
510 231 6805 F




-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:10 PM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: [Nobbc] Ride Reminder

Our next ride is scheduled for this coming Saturday 7/23. If anyone has 
a destination suggestion let's hear it! Otherwise, we will meet at Bad 
Ass at 10AM and the group present will decide.

Ron
58 MGA
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Tue Jul 19 17:07:17 2011
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:07:17 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Ride Reminder
In-Reply-To: <002f01cc4662$99a8d620$ccfa8260$@com>
References: <4E25F2AD.1060404@sonic.net> <002f01cc4662$99a8d620$ccfa8260$@com>
Message-ID: <4E260E25.5010301@sonic.net>

Well, the anniversary ride IS coming up soon!


John Kenner wrote:

> I want to go to Skaggs Springs Road and chase motorcycles!!!!!!!!
> 
> JOHN KENNER
> 
> 510 231 6803 P
> 415 806 2457 C
> 510 231 6805 F
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:10 PM
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Nobbc] Ride Reminder
> 
> Our next ride is scheduled for this coming Saturday 7/23. If anyone has 
> a destination suggestion let's hear it! Otherwise, we will meet at Bad 
> Ass at 10AM and the group present will decide.
> 
> Ron
> 58 MGA
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From andrewdoran at berkeley.edu  Tue Jul 19 17:37:36 2011
From: andrewdoran at berkeley.edu (Andrew S. Doran)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:37:36 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Ride Reminder
In-Reply-To: <4E260E25.5010301@sonic.net>
References: <4E25F2AD.1060404@sonic.net>
	<002f01cc4662$99a8d620$ccfa8260$@com> <4E260E25.5010301@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <c3e45b8af2959825f6f21bc9edad7883.squirrel@calmail.berkeley.edu>

All,

I plan to join the Triumph Travelers who are in the north bay and having a
drive to Point Reyes Station. Some of us already did this with the MG
crowd but I've never met with this club before and my fellow Triumph
owners. See below.

Best,

Andrew '79 Spitfire, Richmond CA

We do indeed. We'll go out Lucas Valley  to Pt Reyes Station, and
>> beyond to a point on Pt Reyes. Lunch - reserved table - at Station
>> House Cafe in Pt Reyes Station.  Home via Rt One then up and over Mt
>> Tam the back way. Weather permitting it should be a good trip. Meet at
>> our house in Corte Madera - 191 Golden hind passage - at 10:00 for a
>> pit stop for those coming a long way.
>> Please go to
>> http://www.triumphtravelers.org/Activites/act11/activityList.php
>> and sign up so we have a good count for the lunch reservation.
>> Hope you can make it!
>> John Howard





> Well, the anniversary ride IS coming up soon!
>
>
> John Kenner wrote:
>
>> I want to go to Skaggs Springs Road and chase motorcycles!!!!!!!!
>>
>> JOHN KENNER
>>
>> 510 231 6803 P
>> 415 806 2457 C
>> 510 231 6805 F
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:10 PM
>> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Nobbc] Ride Reminder
>>
>> Our next ride is scheduled for this coming Saturday 7/23. If anyone has
>> a destination suggestion let's hear it! Otherwise, we will meet at Bad
>> Ass at 10AM and the group present will decide.
>>
>> Ron
>> 58 MGA
>> _______________________________________________
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From dawsonchurch at gmail.com  Tue Jul 19 17:37:39 2011
From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:37:39 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Ride Reminder
In-Reply-To: <4E25F2AD.1060404@sonic.net>
References: <4E25F2AD.1060404@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <CAGEfHZrD-cG3OokBcJFsidbUMnpF9x5XLEg_mBf2MA4E1KQO9w@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry I can't join you! I'm at a conference in SF. See you next time. I just
got the white Jensen Healey running, can't wait to give it legs!

Dawson


On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Ron Engelhardt <nobbc at sonic.net> wrote:

> Our next ride is scheduled for this coming Saturday 7/23. If anyone has a
> destination suggestion let's hear it! Otherwise, we will meet at Bad Ass at
> 10AM and the group present will decide.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
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From algarber at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 19 18:17:00 2011
From: algarber at hotmail.com (Al Garber)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:17:00 -0400
Subject: [Nobbc] Ride Reminder
In-Reply-To: <c3e45b8af2959825f6f21bc9edad7883.squirrel@calmail.berkeley.edu>
References: <4E25F2AD.1060404@sonic.net>, <002f01cc4662$99a8d620$ccfa8260$@com>
	<4E260E25.5010301@sonic.net>,
	<c3e45b8af2959825f6f21bc9edad7883.squirrel@calmail.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID: <SNT139-w2385B735A12E84543B519C34C0@phx.gbl>

Andrew...The Triumph Travelers is a good group. I was looking forward to a
drive with them up here but due to a mysterious Safeway parking lot event my
TR3 is in the shop. Have fun !



"San Francisco is 49 square miles surrounded by reality" ........... Paul
Kantner



> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:37:36 -0700
> From: andrewdoran at berkeley.edu
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Ride Reminder
>
> All,
>
> I plan to join the Triumph Travelers who are in the north bay and having a
> drive to Point Reyes Station. Some of us already did this with the MG
> crowd but I've never met with this club before and my fellow Triumph
> owners. See below.
>
> Best,
>
> Andrew '79 Spitfire, Richmond CA
>
> We do indeed. We'll go out Lucas Valley to Pt Reyes Station, and
> >> beyond to a point on Pt Reyes. Lunch - reserved table - at Station
> >> House Cafe in Pt Reyes Station. Home via Rt One then up and over Mt
> >> Tam the back way. Weather permitting it should be a good trip. Meet at
> >> our house in Corte Madera - 191 Golden hind passage - at 10:00 for a
> >> pit stop for those coming a long way.
> >> Please go to
> >> http://www.triumphtravelers.org/Activites/act11/activityList.php
> >> and sign up so we have a good count for the lunch reservation.
> >> Hope you can make it!
> >> John Howard
>
>
>
>
>
> > Well, the anniversary ride IS coming up soon!
> >
> >
> > John Kenner wrote:
> >
> >> I want to go to Skaggs Springs Road and chase motorcycles!!!!!!!!
> >>
> >> JOHN KENNER
> >>
> >> 510 231 6803 P
> >> 415 806 2457 C
> >> 510 231 6805 F
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
> >> On
> >> Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:10 PM
> >> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> >> Subject: [Nobbc] Ride Reminder
> >>
> >> Our next ride is scheduled for this coming Saturday 7/23. If anyone has
> >> a destination suggestion let's hear it! Otherwise, we will meet at Bad
> >> Ass at 10AM and the group present will decide.
> >>
> >> Ron
> >> 58 MGA
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From andrewdoran at berkeley.edu  Tue Jul 19 19:16:03 2011
From: andrewdoran at berkeley.edu (Andrew S. Doran)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:16:03 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Ride Reminder
In-Reply-To: <SNT139-w2385B735A12E84543B519C34C0@phx.gbl>
References: <4E25F2AD.1060404@sonic.net>,
	<002f01cc4662$99a8d620$ccfa8260$@com> <4E260E25.5010301@sonic.net>,
	<c3e45b8af2959825f6f21bc9edad7883.squirrel@calmail.berkeley.edu>
	<SNT139-w2385B735A12E84543B519C34C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <a1b02128223154e2d928aaa0ad3ac83e.squirrel@calmail.berkeley.edu>

Hi Al,

I will miss the driving style of NOBBC. I hope that parking lot event was
not too costly.

Andrew


> Andrew...The Triumph Travelers is a good group. I was looking forward to a
> drive with them up here but due to a mysterious Safeway parking lot event
> my
> TR3 is in the shop. Have fun !
>
>
>
> "San Francisco is 49 square miles surrounded by reality" ........... Paul
> Kantner
>
>
>
>> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:37:36 -0700
>> From: andrewdoran at berkeley.edu
>> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Ride Reminder
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I plan to join the Triumph Travelers who are in the north bay and having
>> a
>> drive to Point Reyes Station. Some of us already did this with the MG
>> crowd but I've never met with this club before and my fellow Triumph
>> owners. See below.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Andrew '79 Spitfire, Richmond CA
>>
>> We do indeed. We'll go out Lucas Valley to Pt Reyes Station, and
>> >> beyond to a point on Pt Reyes. Lunch - reserved table - at Station
>> >> House Cafe in Pt Reyes Station. Home via Rt One then up and over Mt
>> >> Tam the back way. Weather permitting it should be a good trip. Meet
>> at
>> >> our house in Corte Madera - 191 Golden hind passage - at 10:00 for a
>> >> pit stop for those coming a long way.
>> >> Please go to
>> >> http://www.triumphtravelers.org/Activites/act11/activityList.php
>> >> and sign up so we have a good count for the lunch reservation.
>> >> Hope you can make it!
>> >> John Howard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Well, the anniversary ride IS coming up soon!
>> >
>> >
>> > John Kenner wrote:
>> >
>> >> I want to go to Skaggs Springs Road and chase motorcycles!!!!!!!!
>> >>
>> >> JOHN KENNER
>> >>
>> >> 510 231 6803 P
>> >> 415 806 2457 C
>> >> 510 231 6805 F
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
>> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
>> >> On
>> >> Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:10 PM
>> >> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
>> >> Subject: [Nobbc] Ride Reminder
>> >>
>> >> Our next ride is scheduled for this coming Saturday 7/23. If anyone
>> has
>> >> a destination suggestion let's hear it! Otherwise, we will meet at
>> Bad
>> >> Ass at 10AM and the group present will decide.
>> >>
>> >> Ron
>> >> 58 MGA
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> >> Suggested annual donation $11.47
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From algarber at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 19 22:52:41 2011
From: algarber at hotmail.com (Al Garber)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 00:52:41 -0400
Subject: [Nobbc] Ride Reminder
In-Reply-To: <a1b02128223154e2d928aaa0ad3ac83e.squirrel@calmail.berkeley.edu>
References: <4E25F2AD.1060404@sonic.net>, ,
	<002f01cc4662$99a8d620$ccfa8260$@com>
	<4E260E25.5010301@sonic.net>, ,
	<c3e45b8af2959825f6f21bc9edad7883.squirrel@calmail.berkeley.edu>,
	<SNT139-w2385B735A12E84543B519C34C0@phx.gbl>,
	<a1b02128223154e2d928aaa0ad3ac83e.squirrel@calmail.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID: <SNT139-W1671E412B0E40A46149BE5C34C0@phx.gbl>

Fortunately Haggerty Insurance is taking care of it. Enjoy the drive.

Al Garber
1959 TR3A



"San Francisco is 49 square miles surrounded by reality" ........... Paul
Kantner



> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:16:03 -0700
> From: andrewdoran at berkeley.edu
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Ride Reminder
>
> Hi Al,
>
> I will miss the driving style of NOBBC. I hope that parking lot event was
> not too costly.
>
> Andrew
>
>
> > Andrew...The Triumph Travelers is a good group. I was looking forward to
a
> > drive with them up here but due to a mysterious Safeway parking lot event
> > my
> > TR3 is in the shop. Have fun !
> >
> >
> >
> > "San Francisco is 49 square miles surrounded by reality" ........... Paul
> > Kantner
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:37:36 -0700
> >> From: andrewdoran at berkeley.edu
> >> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Ride Reminder
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> I plan to join the Triumph Travelers who are in the north bay and having
> >> a
> >> drive to Point Reyes Station. Some of us already did this with the MG
> >> crowd but I've never met with this club before and my fellow Triumph
> >> owners. See below.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Andrew '79 Spitfire, Richmond CA
> >>
> >> We do indeed. We'll go out Lucas Valley to Pt Reyes Station, and
> >> >> beyond to a point on Pt Reyes. Lunch - reserved table - at Station
> >> >> House Cafe in Pt Reyes Station. Home via Rt One then up and over Mt
> >> >> Tam the back way. Weather permitting it should be a good trip. Meet
> >> at
> >> >> our house in Corte Madera - 191 Golden hind passage - at 10:00 for a
> >> >> pit stop for those coming a long way.
> >> >> Please go to
> >> >> http://www.triumphtravelers.org/Activites/act11/activityList.php
> >> >> and sign up so we have a good count for the lunch reservation.
> >> >> Hope you can make it!
> >> >> John Howard
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Well, the anniversary ride IS coming up soon!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > John Kenner wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I want to go to Skaggs Springs Road and chase motorcycles!!!!!!!!
> >> >>
> >> >> JOHN KENNER
> >> >>
> >> >> 510 231 6803 P
> >> >> 415 806 2457 C
> >> >> 510 231 6805 F
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
> >> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
> >> >> On
> >> >> Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:10 PM
> >> >> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> >> >> Subject: [Nobbc] Ride Reminder
> >> >>
> >> >> Our next ride is scheduled for this coming Saturday 7/23. If anyone
> >> has
> >> >> a destination suggestion let's hear it! Otherwise, we will meet at
> >> Bad
> >> >> Ass at 10AM and the group present will decide.
> >> >>
> >> >> Ron
> >> >> 58 MGA
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> >> >> Suggested annual donation $11.47
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> University of California, Berkeley
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> Berkeley
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> USA
>
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From giannilarosa at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul 21 20:21:43 2011
From: giannilarosa at sbcglobal.net (giannilarosa at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:21:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] Ride Reminder
In-Reply-To: <4E25F2AD.1060404@sonic.net>
References: <4E25F2AD.1060404@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <1311301303.69901.YahooMailRC@web83502.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

We have an idea for a ride this Saturday.  We know that you all went out to
Lake 
County last month, but we would like to suggest another Lake County
run.  We 
would like to go to a new winery in Lower lake above Jago Bay  (Lake
County) via 
Cobb Mountain.  The winery is called  Vilagence
http://www.vigilancewinery.com/
and they have a nice picnic area with
beautiful views of the mountains and 
Anderson Marsh.  The tasting room is an
old farmhouse and the wines are 
excellent. Pack a  lunch or stop at Perrys in
Middletown. They even have a BBQ 
so we can some grilling. 


 
 Gianni and
Julia LaRosa
Rosie 1962 MGA
 
 
    



________________________________
From:
Ron Engelhardt <nobbc at sonic.net>
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, July 19,
2011 2:10:05 PM
Subject: [Nobbc] Ride Reminder

Our next ride is scheduled for
this coming Saturday 7/23. If anyone has a 
destination suggestion let's hear
it! Otherwise, we will meet at Bad Ass at 10AM 
and the group present will
decide.

Ron
58 MGA
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From algarber at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 24 17:27:11 2011
From: algarber at hotmail.com (Al Garber)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 19:27:11 -0400
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Plexiglass Ghost Car
In-Reply-To: <CA+r8Ood7ptCUsRZdKh8SiV-PFHqv=Q_kg6v68DPFyg+qKNb4-w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <542E0D88-C37E-44C3-B1A9-98C743F4F5A2@one-company.com>,
	<CA+r8Ood7ptCUsRZdKh8SiV-PFHqv=Q_kg6v68DPFyg+qKNb4-w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT139-W382F8006E02F01D20BD7D5C3300@phx.gbl>

Not very good for the drive-in !



"San Francisco is 49 square miles surrounded by reality" ........... Paul
Kantner












The Incredible 1939 Pontiac
Plexiglass Ghost Car




Unveiled at the General Motors Highways and Horizons pavilion at the 1939-40
Worlds Fair in New York, the Pontiac Ghost Car was built on the chassis of
a 1939 Pontiac Deluxe Six.
In collaboration with Rohm & Haas, a chemical company that had recently
developed Plexiglass, the concept for a transparent car was conceived and it
was the first one ever built in America.
This one-of-a-kind vehicle will be put up for auction on July 30, 2011 by RM
Auctions in Plymouth, Michigan.
The car is estimated to fetch between $275,000  $475,000.
Additional information and photographs of this beautiful vehicle below,
enjoy!





































THE 1939 PONTIAC PLEXIGLASS GHOST CAR
- The highlight of the 1939-40 Worlds Fair in New York and the first
transparent car ever built in America
- Series 26. 85 bhp, 222.7 cu. in. L-head six-cylinder engine, three-speed
manual transmission,
coil spring independent front suspension, live rear axle with semi-elliptic
leaf springs,
and four-wheel hydraulic drum brakes.
- The structural metal underneath was given a copper wash, and all hardware,
including the dashboard, was chrome plated.
Rubber moldings were made in white, as were the cars tires
- Cost a reported $25,000 to build (using Consumer Price Index to estimate
inflation, it is approx. $388,000 in 2010 US dollars)
- Car still rides on its original white tires with odometer reading of 86
miles (138 km)
- Does not have a conventional vehicle identification number (therefore not
street legal)










































All Photographs by AARON SUMMERFIELD for RM AUCTIONS

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From nobbc at sonic.net  Sun Jul 24 17:48:44 2011
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:48:44 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Plexiglass Ghost Car
In-Reply-To: <SNT139-W382F8006E02F01D20BD7D5C3300@phx.gbl>
References: <542E0D88-C37E-44C3-B1A9-98C743F4F5A2@one-company.com>,
	<CA+r8Ood7ptCUsRZdKh8SiV-PFHqv=Q_kg6v68DPFyg+qKNb4-w@mail.gmail.com>
	<SNT139-W382F8006E02F01D20BD7D5C3300@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4E2CAF5C.8070005@sonic.net>

A link to the pictures:
http://twistedsifter.com/2011/06/1939-pontiac-plexiglass-ghost-car/
It is pretty cool!

Ron
58 MGA

Al Garber wrote:
> Not very good for the drive-in !
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> Kantner
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> Unveiled at the General Motors Highways and Horizons pavilion at the 1939-40
> Worlds Fair in New York, the Pontiac Ghost Car was built on the chassis of
> a 1939 Pontiac Deluxe Six.
> In collaboration with Rohm & Haas, a chemical company that had recently
> developed Plexiglass, the concept for a transparent car was conceived and it
> was the first one ever built in America.
> This one-of-a-kind vehicle will be put up for auction on July 30, 2011 by RM
> Auctions in Plymouth, Michigan.
> The car is estimated to fetch between $275,000  $475,000.
> Additional information and photographs of this beautiful vehicle below,
> enjoy!
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> - The highlight of the 1939-40 Worlds Fair in New York and the first
> transparent car ever built in America
> - Series 26. 85 bhp, 222.7 cu. in. L-head six-cylinder engine, three-speed
> manual transmission,
> coil spring independent front suspension, live rear axle with semi-elliptic
> leaf springs,
> and four-wheel hydraulic drum brakes.
> - The structural metal underneath was given a copper wash, and all hardware,
> including the dashboard, was chrome plated.
> Rubber moldings were made in white, as were the cars tires
> - Cost a reported $25,000 to build (using Consumer Price Index to estimate
> inflation, it is approx. $388,000 in 2010 US dollars)
> - Car still rides on its original white tires with odometer reading of 86
> miles (138 km)
> - Does not have a conventional vehicle identification number (therefore not
> street legal)
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 10:00:16 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:00:16 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] British Cars Seen on the Road
Message-ID: <4E2EE490.8020809@gmail.com>

  Hi Folks,

Sorry we missed the last drive - Trish and I have been working a lot 
lately and had to get her ready for a week of field work. How was the drive?

We've been driving a lot in the last 7 days, and we've been pleased to 
see plenty of classic British cars on the road during our travels in and 
beyond the Bay Area:

4 MGB roadsters
2 TR4s
1 TR6
1 MGA
several '80s Jags
1 Sunbeam Alpine

Surprisingly, no Spitfires, and for many years now, no GT6s. Also, none 
of these cars looked familiar to me, so if they are in our club, they 
don't come on the drives.

Hope to see you on the next drive,

Greg Tatarian
2 Elans
1 TR6
1 MINI

From gtwincams at gmail.com  Thu Jul 28 15:14:00 2011
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:14:00 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] I Spy...
Message-ID: <4E31D118.8010309@gmail.com>

  Hi There, All,
Another good day for British (and other) classic cars on the road today;
Saw a red XK120, a really nice condition red Elan with black bumpers, 
and a pristine 356 Porsche Cabriolet, all on 101 in Marin County, and a 
Triumph Bonneville, stripped down, in Petaluma.
Cheers,
Greg Tatarian

From hardt at sonic.net  Sun Jul 31 16:59:40 2011
From: hardt at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 15:59:40 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] 10 years old!
Message-ID: <4E35DE5C.3030604@sonic.net>

Steve Lehmann and I met by chance in the summer of 2001 and decided 
there was a need to organize a British car club here. August 4th is the 
10th Anniversary of our first public meeting in the parking lot of the 
old Safeway on 4th and College. We had about a dozen people show up and 
have grown steadily since then. Many of the charter members are still 
active and have helped shape the direction and philosophy of our club 
namely: we are a driving club and any British Marque is welcome, we 
charge no mandatory dues and we don't have (or need) rules and 
regulations. We decided to do this right from the beginning and have 
been sucessful.

To celebrate, we have a club picnic at Fisk Mill Cove (Salt Point SP). 
We usually meet at the Warm Springs Dam fish hatchery and drive out 
Skagg Springs Road (the very definition of a British car road) to the 
coast. Alternatively, we have on occasion gone out King Ridge Road 
(another scenic paved over goat path).

Before we set our plans for the anniversary ride next Saturday, I would 
like to get an idea of which route you would prefer. So let me know in 
the next day or so and I'll send out ride info later in the week.

Ron
58 MGA

From jkenner at tamcab.com  Sun Jul 31 19:29:39 2011
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:29:39 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] 10 years old!
In-Reply-To: <4E35DE5C.3030604@sonic.net>
References: <4E35DE5C.3030604@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <003f01cc4fea$7be1f810$73a5e830$@com>

Skaggs Springs please.

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806 2457 C
510 231 6805 F




-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 4:00 PM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: [Nobbc] 10 years old!

Steve Lehmann and I met by chance in the summer of 2001 and decided 
there was a need to organize a British car club here. August 4th is the 
10th Anniversary of our first public meeting in the parking lot of the 
old Safeway on 4th and College. We had about a dozen people show up and 
have grown steadily since then. Many of the charter members are still 
active and have helped shape the direction and philosophy of our club 
namely: we are a driving club and any British Marque is welcome, we 
charge no mandatory dues and we don't have (or need) rules and 
regulations. We decided to do this right from the beginning and have 
been sucessful.

To celebrate, we have a club picnic at Fisk Mill Cove (Salt Point SP). 
We usually meet at the Warm Springs Dam fish hatchery and drive out 
Skagg Springs Road (the very definition of a British car road) to the 
coast. Alternatively, we have on occasion gone out King Ridge Road 
(another scenic paved over goat path).

Before we set our plans for the anniversary ride next Saturday, I would 
like to get an idea of which route you would prefer. So let me know in 
the next day or so and I'll send out ride info later in the week.

Ron
58 MGA
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From zied at redwoodempiremini.com  Sun Jul 31 20:09:06 2011
From: zied at redwoodempiremini.com (Peter Ziedrich)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:09:06 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] 10 years old!
In-Reply-To: <4E35DE5C.3030604@sonic.net>
References: <4E35DE5C.3030604@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <000001cc4fef$fe4c19c0$fae44d40$@redwoodempiremini.com>

I would suggest points 1 thru 13 of the linked map
(http://redwoodempiremini.com/PDF/REME - 2008 Sono-Mendo Coast Run.pdf)

The entire address between the perenthsis

Peter Ziedrich

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 4:00 PM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: [Nobbc] 10 years old!

Steve Lehmann and I met by chance in the summer of 2001 and decided there
was a need to organize a British car club here. August 4th is the 10th
Anniversary of our first public meeting in the parking lot of the old
Safeway on 4th and College. We had about a dozen people show up and have
grown steadily since then. Many of the charter members are still active and
have helped shape the direction and philosophy of our club
namely: we are a driving club and any British Marque is welcome, we charge
no mandatory dues and we don't have (or need) rules and regulations. We
decided to do this right from the beginning and have been sucessful.

To celebrate, we have a club picnic at Fisk Mill Cove (Salt Point SP). 
We usually meet at the Warm Springs Dam fish hatchery and drive out Skagg
Springs Road (the very definition of a British car road) to the coast.
Alternatively, we have on occasion gone out King Ridge Road (another scenic
paved over goat path).

Before we set our plans for the anniversary ride next Saturday, I would like
to get an idea of which route you would prefer. So let me know in the next
day or so and I'll send out ride info later in the week.

Ron
58 MGA
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From bettymiller at cds1.net  Sun Jul 31 20:31:16 2011
From: bettymiller at cds1.net (Betty Miller)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:31:16 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] 10 years old!
In-Reply-To: <4E35DE5C.3030604@sonic.net>
References: <4E35DE5C.3030604@sonic.net>
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Ron,
Truthfully, the last event that we attended was not our cup o'tea.  Sitting
on hard rocks to picnic in the middle of nowhere is not my idea of a fun
time.  Perhaps I'm not cut out for your club.
Betty

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 4:00 PM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: [Nobbc] 10 years old!

Steve Lehmann and I met by chance in the summer of 2001 and decided there
was a need to organize a British car club here. August 4th is the 10th
Anniversary of our first public meeting in the parking lot of the old
Safeway on 4th and College. We had about a dozen people show up and have
grown steadily since then. Many of the charter members are still active and
have helped shape the direction and philosophy of our club
namely: we are a driving club and any British Marque is welcome, we charge
no mandatory dues and we don't have (or need) rules and regulations. We
decided to do this right from the beginning and have been sucessful.

To celebrate, we have a club picnic at Fisk Mill Cove (Salt Point SP). 
We usually meet at the Warm Springs Dam fish hatchery and drive out Skagg
Springs Road (the very definition of a British car road) to the coast.
Alternatively, we have on occasion gone out King Ridge Road (another scenic
paved over goat path).

Before we set our plans for the anniversary ride next Saturday, I would like
to get an idea of which route you would prefer. So let me know in the next
day or so and I'll send out ride info later in the week.

Ron
58 MGA
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Sun Jul 31 21:49:51 2011
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 20:49:51 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] 10 years old!
In-Reply-To: <4E35DE5C.3030604@sonic.net>
References: <4E35DE5C.3030604@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <3FBEDC1925614895AE8B581960FF7640@williamsonPC>

Haven't done King Ridge, so that would be our vote!
Clif and Deborah  74 Jensen Healey

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 3:59 PM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: [Nobbc] 10 years old!

Steve Lehmann and I met by chance in the summer of 2001 and decided
there was a need to organize a British car club here. August 4th is the
10th Anniversary of our first public meeting in the parking lot of the
old Safeway on 4th and College. We had about a dozen people show up and
have grown steadily since then. Many of the charter members are still
active and have helped shape the direction and philosophy of our club
namely: we are a driving club and any British Marque is welcome, we
charge no mandatory dues and we don't have (or need) rules and
regulations. We decided to do this right from the beginning and have
been sucessful.

To celebrate, we have a club picnic at Fisk Mill Cove (Salt Point SP).
We usually meet at the Warm Springs Dam fish hatchery and drive out
Skagg Springs Road (the very definition of a British car road) to the
coast. Alternatively, we have on occasion gone out King Ridge Road
(another scenic paved over goat path).

Before we set our plans for the anniversary ride next Saturday, I would
like to get an idea of which route you would prefer. So let me know in
the next day or so and I'll send out ride info later in the week.

Ron
58 MGA
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