From gtwincams at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 07:42:53 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Gregory Tatarian) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 06:42:53 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Car List In-Reply-To: References: <4D34AE06.5030303@sonic.net> <4D34AFA4.6080501@gmail.com> <58A6D773683C4235AEAEB61CDD3E3D42@williamsonPC> <4D34FCE7.5090509@sonic.net> <2FF49362672946839329760648786B30@williamsonPC> <83a7d94f-9c9e-4149-9da5-df20b821ec50@blur> <001201cbbdd5$d498ab90$7dca02b0$@com> <4D40F5D4.1080102@sonic.net> <445D01DEA48A4147B5F95F298053C5AA@williamsonPC> <380D0B14784D4576AC4351A948A39088@williamsonPC> <5229B05CB5FC40F7B9C7B35A7A524711@mike> <4D44C5BC.60301@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Mike, I think your shop and parking lot could be a good location. There are nice trees around, the parking lot is good sized, and it's a centralized, accessible location. Not sure whether it would be good or bad to have it the same day as the Hot Rod shop... Thanks for your input RE: the Elan, and thank you to those of you who have shared your opinions so far. Cheers, Greg Tatarian On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: > IF IT CAME TO PASS? > > Hi Greg, > > If it looked like it would actually happen, and we needed space, we could > have a get together in the business park where my shop is. You've been here, > there is lots of space and sufficient parking, at least enough for our club, > do you think that would work? I can set up a BBQ and I have restrooms, so if > push came to should shove we could do that. For a crowd that large, I would > need donations for food and beverages. With my luck it would happen, and the > Hot Rod shop down the driveway would have their annual get together the same > day. But they do have real nice rides out there every day. > > As far as the Lotus goes, replacing carpets and clean up stuff doesn't > really take away from the originality of the car. I would keep the dash and > character itmes the same, just refinish it. That's what I did. when I got my > TR, it had some really ugly black VW seats, really ragged carpets, and the > original red upholstery. So I found the seats that are in there now, that > had the gold covers, so I just finished out the inside to match. I keep the > color, and other character items the same, the dash is refinished, tranny is > original, (I almost switched it out) so numbers match, I may put in a Flame > thrower dizzy, but I am going to have the original rebuilt, then that will > go back in. I bought a rear shock conversion set, for my back, but I'm even > thinking of rebuilding or just topping off the lever shocks to be more > original. And I'm working hard on the knee so that I can attend the > Valentines Day ride. As of yet, I can get in, but I can't get out, I may > need some help to get extricated, but I plan to attend! > > Michael > 64 TR4 > > --- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Tatarian" > To: > > Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 5:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List > > > Hi Mike, >> A couple of years ago, John Kenner and Ron Wheeler co-hosted a picnic at >> the parklands behind Ron's shop. John arranged and paid for a lot of BBQ >> chicken and sausages, and the attendees brought side dishes. John recruited >> his buddy, Steve, and yes, it is a lot of work, but was a really nice day. >> There was a short drive beforehand, with the BBQ and chatting being the >> central focus. >> As you know, I held a tech session/potluck BBQ at our house last year, and >> a tech session at JNW Engine the year before with food I bought and >> attendees chipped in to pay for, as well as other tech sessions with food >> and drinks both at our house and at John's. >> Dawson has hosted I think 2 Valentine's Day drives, with coffee and >> pastries and visiting before the drive, and last year's event included a >> stop at a winery for tasting. Dawson is kindly hosting another next month. >> You yourself tried to arrange a day at Infineon, after the one you and Tim >> Thresh successfully arranged, which was well attended. >> A few years ago, Andy hosted a pre-drive coffee/pastry/chat session. I've >> probably forgotten some similar events and contributors without intent to do >> so. >> So, not impossible, but it does take one person who can line up the >> necessary location, supplies, and helpers, set the date, and do most of the >> work. We have lots of members, so hopefully another one of us will get >> inspired to host an event. I'm in favor of trying to get a more centralized >> location to attract more of our southern members, along with our regular >> friends. >> Thanks to Clif for jumping in to put together a list of members' cars - >> hopefully the dataset will fill out as more members respond. Clif, please >> send me the list when you've finished compiling it. >> Trish and I took the maiden drive yesterday in our new 1967 Elan S3 Coupe >> SE (Special Equipment). It's mostly original, and has seen regular use, but >> needs to be updated and serviced. I'm struggling with the direction to take; >> keep it pretty much as-is, or do sympathetic upgrades as I have with the S4 >> drophead coupe. The S3 is more elegant in appearance, but feels more >> primitive than the S4, and is not as high-performance, or as well-restored. >> Trish and I are going to enjoy driving it a bit before I tackle the small >> fiberglass repair it needs near the headlight, but there are other things >> that I will have to decide whether they add to or take away from the classic >> character of the car. For example, it needs a new dash; do I stay with the >> standard walnut veneer, or choose a non-standard burl, or different wood? >> Change the original carpets? I don't want to lose the original character of >> the car, but do like my cars looking sharp. >> To those who will be attending Dawson's drive - let me know what you think >> when you see the car, OK? >> Cheers, >> Greg Tatarian >> >> >> >> >> On 1/29/2011 12:10 PM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: >> >>> Hi Cliff, >>> >>> I am a relatively new member, and I try, but can't attend all the rides, >>> but I would be very interested in seeing a list of the members and vehicles >>> that we do have, just for the hell of it. And once we do have a final list, >>> (Those with multiple cars should bring pics and descritions to display) I >>> think it would be fun to have one big get togther somewhere, a picnic, wine >>> tasting, etc. I'm sure it take a lot of work, probably impossible to do, but >>> it sure would be a hoot. >>> >>> P.S. Despite all her flaws, my 64 TR4 gets a 100 Rating in my mind! >>> >>> Michael >>> 64 TR4 >>> - >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at att.net >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/gtwincams at gmail.com From mvg1 at att.net Tue Feb 1 09:32:00 2011 From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:32:00 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Car List References: <4D34AE06.5030303@sonic.net> <4D34AFA4.6080501@gmail.com><58A6D773683C4235AEAEB61CDD3E3D42@williamsonPC><4D34FCE7.5090509@sonic.net><2FF49362672946839329760648786B30@williamsonPC><83a7d94f-9c9e-4149-9da5-df20b821ec50@blur><001201cbbdd5$d498ab90$7dca02b0$@com> <4D40F5D4.1080102@sonic.net><445D01DEA48A4147B5F95F298053C5AA@williamsonPC><380D0B14784D4576AC4351A948A39088@williamsonPC><5229B05CB5FC40F7B9C7B35A7A524711@mike> <4D44C5BC.60301@gmail.com> Message-ID: <976DED0B1F3E4932AEF36A2C856B1D72@mike> Hi Greg, If it came to pass? The Hot Rod shop is open six days a week, so there MAY be a few cars around, not enough to get in our way. They did have a Car Show here a year ago on a Saturday, but it rained, and they got about 30 to 40 cars. They advertised on the radio, they had Mike D'Addario from Infineon trying to sell race tickets, they a vendor selling snow cones, not really very successful. If it came to pass, and we had SUFFICENT members commit, I would check with the owner to make sure we weren't trying to compete for the same day. Most people would probably rather have it in a park or winery anyway, let's see what happens. MVG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Tatarian" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List > Hi Mike, > > I think your shop and parking lot could be a good location. There are nice > trees around, the parking lot is good sized, and it's a centralized, > accessible location. Not sure whether it would be good or bad to have it > the > same day as the Hot Rod shop... > > Thanks for your input RE: the Elan, and thank you to those of you who have > shared your opinions so far. > > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > > > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: > >> IF IT CAME TO PASS? >> >> Hi Greg, >> >> If it looked like it would actually happen, and we needed space, we could >> have a get together in the business park where my shop is. You've been >> here, >> there is lots of space and sufficient parking, at least enough for our >> club, >> do you think that would work? I can set up a BBQ and I have restrooms, so >> if >> push came to should shove we could do that. For a crowd that large, I >> would >> need donations for food and beverages. With my luck it would happen, and >> the >> Hot Rod shop down the driveway would have their annual get together the >> same >> day. But they do have real nice rides out there every day. >> >> As far as the Lotus goes, replacing carpets and clean up stuff doesn't >> really take away from the originality of the car. I would keep the dash >> and >> character itmes the same, just refinish it. That's what I did. when I got >> my >> TR, it had some really ugly black VW seats, really ragged carpets, and >> the >> original red upholstery. So I found the seats that are in there now, that >> had the gold covers, so I just finished out the inside to match. I keep >> the >> color, and other character items the same, the dash is refinished, tranny >> is >> original, (I almost switched it out) so numbers match, I may put in a >> Flame >> thrower dizzy, but I am going to have the original rebuilt, then that >> will >> go back in. I bought a rear shock conversion set, for my back, but I'm >> even >> thinking of rebuilding or just topping off the lever shocks to be more >> original. And I'm working hard on the knee so that I can attend the >> Valentines Day ride. As of yet, I can get in, but I can't get out, I may >> need some help to get extricated, but I plan to attend! >> >> Michael >> 64 TR4 >> >> --- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Tatarian" >> To: >> >> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 5:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List >> >> >> Hi Mike, >>> A couple of years ago, John Kenner and Ron Wheeler co-hosted a picnic at >>> the parklands behind Ron's shop. John arranged and paid for a lot of BBQ >>> chicken and sausages, and the attendees brought side dishes. John >>> recruited >>> his buddy, Steve, and yes, it is a lot of work, but was a really nice >>> day. >>> There was a short drive beforehand, with the BBQ and chatting being the >>> central focus. >>> As you know, I held a tech session/potluck BBQ at our house last year, >>> and >>> a tech session at JNW Engine the year before with food I bought and >>> attendees chipped in to pay for, as well as other tech sessions with >>> food >>> and drinks both at our house and at John's. >>> Dawson has hosted I think 2 Valentine's Day drives, with coffee and >>> pastries and visiting before the drive, and last year's event included a >>> stop at a winery for tasting. Dawson is kindly hosting another next >>> month. >>> You yourself tried to arrange a day at Infineon, after the one you and >>> Tim >>> Thresh successfully arranged, which was well attended. >>> A few years ago, Andy hosted a pre-drive coffee/pastry/chat session. >>> I've >>> probably forgotten some similar events and contributors without intent >>> to do >>> so. >>> So, not impossible, but it does take one person who can line up the >>> necessary location, supplies, and helpers, set the date, and do most of >>> the >>> work. We have lots of members, so hopefully another one of us will get >>> inspired to host an event. I'm in favor of trying to get a more >>> centralized >>> location to attract more of our southern members, along with our regular >>> friends. >>> Thanks to Clif for jumping in to put together a list of members' cars - >>> hopefully the dataset will fill out as more members respond. Clif, >>> please >>> send me the list when you've finished compiling it. >>> Trish and I took the maiden drive yesterday in our new 1967 Elan S3 >>> Coupe >>> SE (Special Equipment). It's mostly original, and has seen regular use, >>> but >>> needs to be updated and serviced. I'm struggling with the direction to >>> take; >>> keep it pretty much as-is, or do sympathetic upgrades as I have with the >>> S4 >>> drophead coupe. The S3 is more elegant in appearance, but feels more >>> primitive than the S4, and is not as high-performance, or as >>> well-restored. >>> Trish and I are going to enjoy driving it a bit before I tackle the >>> small >>> fiberglass repair it needs near the headlight, but there are other >>> things >>> that I will have to decide whether they add to or take away from the >>> classic >>> character of the car. For example, it needs a new dash; do I stay with >>> the >>> standard walnut veneer, or choose a non-standard burl, or different >>> wood? >>> Change the original carpets? I don't want to lose the original character >>> of >>> the car, but do like my cars looking sharp. >>> To those who will be attending Dawson's drive - let me know what you >>> think >>> when you see the car, OK? >>> Cheers, >>> Greg Tatarian >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/29/2011 12:10 PM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Cliff, >>>> >>>> I am a relatively new member, and I try, but can't attend all the >>>> rides, >>>> but I would be very interested in seeing a list of the members and >>>> vehicles >>>> that we do have, just for the hell of it. And once we do have a final >>>> list, >>>> (Those with multiple cars should bring pics and descritions to display) >>>> I >>>> think it would be fun to have one big get togther somewhere, a picnic, >>>> wine >>>> tasting, etc. I'm sure it take a lot of work, probably impossible to >>>> do, but >>>> it sure would be a hoot. >>>> >>>> P.S. Despite all her flaws, my 64 TR4 gets a 100 Rating in my mind! >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> 64 TR4 >>>> - >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at att.net >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/gtwincams at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at att.net From jinger at pacbell.net Tue Feb 1 10:32:39 2011 From: jinger at pacbell.net (Alan and Paula Spencer) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 09:32:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] More than you want to know about Minis In-Reply-To: References: <00b301cbc0f2$526a2de0$f73e89a0$@com> <8B181596654D424AA0C560E5C916C064@williamsonPC> <4D46E1BD.2090907@gmail.com> Message-ID: <651113.33224.qm@web80402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Good lecture! FYI, my understanding is that BMW acquired Rover in order to gain access to the advanced valve technology that Rover shared with Honda through their joint venture. Honda was as outraged as most of Britain that Rover would sold off as it was. Cheers, Alan ________________________________ From: G. Mugele To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Mon, January 31, 2011 11:03:25 AM Subject: [Nobbc] More than you want to know about Minis Ahem... well Greg, you have the virtue of youth; you're not old enough to really have this down. However, it was not as straight-forward as all that. BMC built the Austin Seven and Morris Mini-Minor at a couple plants in England beginning in '59 or so. The Morris quickly acquired the sobriquet 'Mini" in popular UK vernacular. Very soon afterward the Austin also became the 'Mini.' I can only guess that the appellation was the result of how people described them. Anyway... as the popularity grew BMC did some badge engineering and also marketed the Riley Elf and the Wolseley Hornet, giving them some hideous fins and other awkward cosmetics. Those poor cousins were also called Minis. Not long after the initial introduction, BMC upped the displacement to a throbbing hunk of iron displacing 998cc and called it the Austin Mini Cooper or the Morris Mini Cooper. Those soon became simply "Mini Coopers." Time and popularity soon brought us many variants as well as more and more powerful versions. Those sporty ones were labeled with things like 'S' and '1275 S.' Around the time or shortly after BMC became British Leyland, the company formally adopted the Mini name and the cars were sold under the 'Mini' label. Of course by then there were variants all over the world: Italy, Spain, Chile, New Zealand, Belgium and a number of other countries all had plants. Some were factory and some were built under license (Innocenti). I don't know who made the Mini Moke but I suspect that it was an official BMC product. In the 90s BMW became the parent company by buying Land Rover (Rover Group) from British Aerospace. At that time Rover Group was owner of what was left of BMC. I suspect BMW bought Rover to cover for the lack of an SUV in the market. When BMW introduced the X5 they quickly dumped Land Rover on Ford and at the same time sold the rest of Rover Group (including MG) to some British consortium. But BMW decided to keep the Mini name and opted to build a new model. The original Mini was out of production by 2000 or so. The BMW Mini is related only in layout and appearance. BTW mine was a '61 Mini Cooper. It was grossly overpowered :) with that 55 HP beast under the hood. I am amazed that I survived owning that incredibly fun little car: it inspired spirited driving well beyond my skills at the time. These days, with 400+ HP engines relatively commonplace, it's hard to imagine that 50 years ago 100 horsepower was a real handful, especially in our LBCs. This concludes todays lecture. Gerry On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:22 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > I'll let John answer to tell you what he wants to call his MINI, but here's the >deal on these cars (I know as we have a 2011 Mini John Cooper Works (JCW) >Hardtop; > > The car company is "MINI", which as owned by BMW differentiates its name from >the original "Mini", which, short version here, was made both by Austin and >Morris in the UK, and other companies overseas under license during the day. G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** "Life in Lubbock, Texas taught me two things. One is that God loves you and you're going to burn in hell. The other is that sex is the most awful, dirty thing on the face of the earth and you should save it for someone you love." -- Butch Hancock _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jinger at pacbell.net From jarbunic at pacbell.net Tue Feb 1 11:07:36 2011 From: jarbunic at pacbell.net (Joe Arbunic) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 10:07:36 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: <20110201064821.13748AE68F@mail.dsl.napanet.net> References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com> <1B0F39CED1F54572A31306EFB4276114@williamsonPC> <20110201064821.13748AE68F@mail.dsl.napanet.net> Message-ID: <4D484BE8.1020606@pacbell.net> From lgardini at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 1 12:27:34 2011 From: lgardini at sbcglobal.net (Larry Gardini) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:27:34 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Car List In-Reply-To: <976DED0B1F3E4932AEF36A2C856B1D72@mike> Message-ID: How many cars are we talking about? Larry Gardini -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:32 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List Hi Greg, If it came to pass? The Hot Rod shop is open six days a week, so there MAY be a few cars around, not enough to get in our way. They did have a Car Show here a year ago on a Saturday, but it rained, and they got about 30 to 40 cars. They advertised on the radio, they had Mike D'Addario from Infineon trying to sell race tickets, they a vendor selling snow cones, not really very successful. If it came to pass, and we had SUFFICENT members commit, I would check with the owner to make sure we weren't trying to compete for the same day. Most people would probably rather have it in a park or winery anyway, let's see what happens. MVG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Tatarian" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List > Hi Mike, > > I think your shop and parking lot could be a good location. There are nice > trees around, the parking lot is good sized, and it's a centralized, > accessible location. Not sure whether it would be good or bad to have it > the > same day as the Hot Rod shop... > > Thanks for your input RE: the Elan, and thank you to those of you who have > shared your opinions so far. > > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > > > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: > >> IF IT CAME TO PASS? >> >> Hi Greg, >> >> If it looked like it would actually happen, and we needed space, we could >> have a get together in the business park where my shop is. You've been >> here, >> there is lots of space and sufficient parking, at least enough for our >> club, >> do you think that would work? I can set up a BBQ and I have restrooms, so >> if >> push came to should shove we could do that. For a crowd that large, I >> would >> need donations for food and beverages. With my luck it would happen, and >> the >> Hot Rod shop down the driveway would have their annual get together the >> same >> day. But they do have real nice rides out there every day. >> >> As far as the Lotus goes, replacing carpets and clean up stuff doesn't >> really take away from the originality of the car. I would keep the dash >> and >> character itmes the same, just refinish it. That's what I did. when I got >> my >> TR, it had some really ugly black VW seats, really ragged carpets, and >> the >> original red upholstery. So I found the seats that are in there now, that >> had the gold covers, so I just finished out the inside to match. I keep >> the >> color, and other character items the same, the dash is refinished, tranny >> is >> original, (I almost switched it out) so numbers match, I may put in a >> Flame >> thrower dizzy, but I am going to have the original rebuilt, then that >> will >> go back in. I bought a rear shock conversion set, for my back, but I'm >> even >> thinking of rebuilding or just topping off the lever shocks to be more >> original. And I'm working hard on the knee so that I can attend the >> Valentines Day ride. As of yet, I can get in, but I can't get out, I may >> need some help to get extricated, but I plan to attend! >> >> Michael >> 64 TR4 >> >> --- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Tatarian" >> To: >> >> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 5:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List >> >> >> Hi Mike, >>> A couple of years ago, John Kenner and Ron Wheeler co-hosted a picnic at >>> the parklands behind Ron's shop. John arranged and paid for a lot of BBQ >>> chicken and sausages, and the attendees brought side dishes. John >>> recruited >>> his buddy, Steve, and yes, it is a lot of work, but was a really nice >>> day. >>> There was a short drive beforehand, with the BBQ and chatting being the >>> central focus. >>> As you know, I held a tech session/potluck BBQ at our house last year, >>> and >>> a tech session at JNW Engine the year before with food I bought and >>> attendees chipped in to pay for, as well as other tech sessions with >>> food >>> and drinks both at our house and at John's. >>> Dawson has hosted I think 2 Valentine's Day drives, with coffee and >>> pastries and visiting before the drive, and last year's event included a >>> stop at a winery for tasting. Dawson is kindly hosting another next >>> month. >>> You yourself tried to arrange a day at Infineon, after the one you and >>> Tim >>> Thresh successfully arranged, which was well attended. >>> A few years ago, Andy hosted a pre-drive coffee/pastry/chat session. >>> I've >>> probably forgotten some similar events and contributors without intent >>> to do >>> so. >>> So, not impossible, but it does take one person who can line up the >>> necessary location, supplies, and helpers, set the date, and do most of >>> the >>> work. We have lots of members, so hopefully another one of us will get >>> inspired to host an event. I'm in favor of trying to get a more >>> centralized >>> location to attract more of our southern members, along with our regular >>> friends. >>> Thanks to Clif for jumping in to put together a list of members' cars - >>> hopefully the dataset will fill out as more members respond. Clif, >>> please >>> send me the list when you've finished compiling it. >>> Trish and I took the maiden drive yesterday in our new 1967 Elan S3 >>> Coupe >>> SE (Special Equipment). It's mostly original, and has seen regular use, >>> but >>> needs to be updated and serviced. I'm struggling with the direction to >>> take; >>> keep it pretty much as-is, or do sympathetic upgrades as I have with the >>> S4 >>> drophead coupe. The S3 is more elegant in appearance, but feels more >>> primitive than the S4, and is not as high-performance, or as >>> well-restored. >>> Trish and I are going to enjoy driving it a bit before I tackle the >>> small >>> fiberglass repair it needs near the headlight, but there are other >>> things >>> that I will have to decide whether they add to or take away from the >>> classic >>> character of the car. For example, it needs a new dash; do I stay with >>> the >>> standard walnut veneer, or choose a non-standard burl, or different >>> wood? >>> Change the original carpets? I don't want to lose the original character >>> of >>> the car, but do like my cars looking sharp. >>> To those who will be attending Dawson's drive - let me know what you >>> think >>> when you see the car, OK? >>> Cheers, >>> Greg Tatarian >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/29/2011 12:10 PM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Cliff, >>>> >>>> I am a relatively new member, and I try, but can't attend all the >>>> rides, >>>> but I would be very interested in seeing a list of the members and >>>> vehicles >>>> that we do have, just for the hell of it. And once we do have a final >>>> list, >>>> (Those with multiple cars should bring pics and descritions to display) >>>> I >>>> think it would be fun to have one big get togther somewhere, a picnic, >>>> wine >>>> tasting, etc. I'm sure it take a lot of work, probably impossible to >>>> do, but >>>> it sure would be a hoot. >>>> >>>> P.S. Despite all her flaws, my 64 TR4 gets a 100 Rating in my mind! >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> 64 TR4 >>>> - >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at att.net >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/gtwincams at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at att.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/lgardini at sbcglobal.net From mvg1 at att.net Tue Feb 1 13:48:32 2011 From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:48:32 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Car List References: Message-ID: <3F28E18694C54087806336150736D1FB@mike> As many as possible. I believe we had 30 cars in our Car Corral at Infineon last year, good turn out, but it would be nice to have a few more, 50 to 100 cars. Hell, we could even have the get together again at Infineon for the Vintage weekend. If we gave Mike D'Addario enough time, we could probably get a much better location. MVG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Gardini" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List > How many cars are we talking about? > > Larry Gardini > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:32 AM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List > > > Hi Greg, > > If it came to pass? The Hot Rod shop is open six days a week, so there MAY > be a few cars around, not enough to get in our way. They did have a Car > Show > here a year ago on a Saturday, > but it rained, and they got about 30 to 40 cars. They advertised on the > radio, they had Mike D'Addario from Infineon trying to sell race tickets, > they a vendor selling snow cones, not really very successful. If it came > to > pass, and we had SUFFICENT members commit, I would check with the owner to > make sure we weren't trying to compete for the same day. Most people would > probably rather have it in a park or winery anyway, let's see what > happens. > > MVG > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gregory Tatarian" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 6:42 AM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List > > >> Hi Mike, >> >> I think your shop and parking lot could be a good location. There are >> nice >> trees around, the parking lot is good sized, and it's a centralized, >> accessible location. Not sure whether it would be good or bad to have it >> the >> same day as the Hot Rod shop... >> >> Thanks for your input RE: the Elan, and thank you to those of you who >> have >> shared your opinions so far. >> >> Cheers, >> Greg Tatarian >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: >> >>> IF IT CAME TO PASS? >>> >>> Hi Greg, >>> >>> If it looked like it would actually happen, and we needed space, we >>> could >>> have a get together in the business park where my shop is. You've been >>> here, >>> there is lots of space and sufficient parking, at least enough for our >>> club, >>> do you think that would work? I can set up a BBQ and I have restrooms, >>> so >>> if >>> push came to should shove we could do that. For a crowd that large, I >>> would >>> need donations for food and beverages. With my luck it would happen, and >>> the >>> Hot Rod shop down the driveway would have their annual get together the >>> same >>> day. But they do have real nice rides out there every day. >>> >>> As far as the Lotus goes, replacing carpets and clean up stuff doesn't >>> really take away from the originality of the car. I would keep the dash >>> and >>> character itmes the same, just refinish it. That's what I did. when I >>> got >>> my >>> TR, it had some really ugly black VW seats, really ragged carpets, and >>> the >>> original red upholstery. So I found the seats that are in there now, >>> that >>> had the gold covers, so I just finished out the inside to match. I keep >>> the >>> color, and other character items the same, the dash is refinished, >>> tranny >>> is >>> original, (I almost switched it out) so numbers match, I may put in a >>> Flame >>> thrower dizzy, but I am going to have the original rebuilt, then that >>> will >>> go back in. I bought a rear shock conversion set, for my back, but I'm >>> even >>> thinking of rebuilding or just topping off the lever shocks to be more >>> original. And I'm working hard on the knee so that I can attend the >>> Valentines Day ride. As of yet, I can get in, but I can't get out, I may >>> need some help to get extricated, but I plan to attend! >>> >>> Michael >>> 64 TR4 >>> >>> --- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Tatarian" >>> To: >>> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 5:58 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List >>> >>> >>> Hi Mike, >>>> A couple of years ago, John Kenner and Ron Wheeler co-hosted a picnic >>>> at >>>> the parklands behind Ron's shop. John arranged and paid for a lot of >>>> BBQ >>>> chicken and sausages, and the attendees brought side dishes. John >>>> recruited >>>> his buddy, Steve, and yes, it is a lot of work, but was a really nice >>>> day. >>>> There was a short drive beforehand, with the BBQ and chatting being the >>>> central focus. >>>> As you know, I held a tech session/potluck BBQ at our house last year, >>>> and >>>> a tech session at JNW Engine the year before with food I bought and >>>> attendees chipped in to pay for, as well as other tech sessions with >>>> food >>>> and drinks both at our house and at John's. >>>> Dawson has hosted I think 2 Valentine's Day drives, with coffee and >>>> pastries and visiting before the drive, and last year's event included >>>> a >>>> stop at a winery for tasting. Dawson is kindly hosting another next >>>> month. >>>> You yourself tried to arrange a day at Infineon, after the one you and >>>> Tim >>>> Thresh successfully arranged, which was well attended. >>>> A few years ago, Andy hosted a pre-drive coffee/pastry/chat session. >>>> I've >>>> probably forgotten some similar events and contributors without intent >>>> to do >>>> so. >>>> So, not impossible, but it does take one person who can line up the >>>> necessary location, supplies, and helpers, set the date, and do most of >>>> the >>>> work. We have lots of members, so hopefully another one of us will get >>>> inspired to host an event. I'm in favor of trying to get a more >>>> centralized >>>> location to attract more of our southern members, along with our >>>> regular >>>> friends. >>>> Thanks to Clif for jumping in to put together a list of members' cars - >>>> hopefully the dataset will fill out as more members respond. Clif, >>>> please >>>> send me the list when you've finished compiling it. >>>> Trish and I took the maiden drive yesterday in our new 1967 Elan S3 >>>> Coupe >>>> SE (Special Equipment). It's mostly original, and has seen regular use, >>>> but >>>> needs to be updated and serviced. I'm struggling with the direction to >>>> take; >>>> keep it pretty much as-is, or do sympathetic upgrades as I have with >>>> the >>>> S4 >>>> drophead coupe. The S3 is more elegant in appearance, but feels more >>>> primitive than the S4, and is not as high-performance, or as >>>> well-restored. >>>> Trish and I are going to enjoy driving it a bit before I tackle the >>>> small >>>> fiberglass repair it needs near the headlight, but there are other >>>> things >>>> that I will have to decide whether they add to or take away from the >>>> classic >>>> character of the car. For example, it needs a new dash; do I stay with >>>> the >>>> standard walnut veneer, or choose a non-standard burl, or different >>>> wood? >>>> Change the original carpets? I don't want to lose the original >>>> character >>>> of >>>> the car, but do like my cars looking sharp. >>>> To those who will be attending Dawson's drive - let me know what you >>>> think >>>> when you see the car, OK? >>>> Cheers, >>>> Greg Tatarian >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1/29/2011 12:10 PM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Cliff, >>>>> >>>>> I am a relatively new member, and I try, but can't attend all the >>>>> rides, >>>>> but I would be very interested in seeing a list of the members and >>>>> vehicles >>>>> that we do have, just for the hell of it. And once we do have a final >>>>> list, >>>>> (Those with multiple cars should bring pics and descritions to >>>>> display) >>>>> I >>>>> think it would be fun to have one big get togther somewhere, a picnic, >>>>> wine >>>>> tasting, etc. I'm sure it take a lot of work, probably impossible to >>>>> do, but >>>>> it sure would be a hoot. >>>>> >>>>> P.S. Despite all her flaws, my 64 TR4 gets a 100 Rating in my mind! >>>>> >>>>> Michael >>>>> 64 TR4 >>>>> - >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at att.net >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/gtwincams at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at att.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/lgardini at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at att.net From morrisf at SIDWater.org Tue Feb 1 14:14:22 2011 From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:14:22 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Magnificent Motorcycles In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B551@echo01.SID.LOCAL> Was there a link to this information. Yes, I likes bikes! -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 11:19 AM To: nobbc Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Magnificent Motorcycles Motorcycles anyone? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: RACER BUD To: RACER BUD Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 11:30 AM Subject: Fw: Magnificent Motorcycles thanks to GARY 'FRIEND OF OLD HORSTY' KUNTZ for the following. Racer Bud Magnificent Motorcycles Behold! The Fearsome Knight on an Iron Horse... Or rather, 500 Horses Earlier this year we examined some of the cool, the fascinating, the unusual and the utterly weird designs for motorcycles that have appeared for over the last century or so. Herebs another look the wild and wonderful world of motorcycles. Brough Superior motorcycles were made in Nottingham, England from 1919 until 1940 and were known as bthe Rolls Royce of motorcyclesb. Very expensive at the time, they were available only to the wealthy. This model dates from 1931. T. E. Lawrence, better known as Lawrence of Arabia, owned several of these machines and died from his injuries after crashing on one in 1935.... Another beautiful bike is this Imme (Germany), with a single side suspension: The Megola motorcycle was produced in Munich in the 1920bs. Some 2000 were built, but only 10 fully working examples are still in existence, one of which is in the Guggenheim Museum in New York: In 1935, the Killinger and Freund motorcycle was an attempt to make an improved version of the Megola, but the advent of World War Two put an end to any further development: Some sources point out that "in 1940, when Indian's skirted fenders appeared, several questioned the manhood of Spingfield's designers". It seems that aerodynamic shape of Killinger & Freund bikes influenced the Indian designers: This streamlined torpedo is the French-made Majestic, 1929: Speaking about "Custom War Bikes", here is one that was fashioned after World War Two style (modern concept by Kogisama): The previous wild concept was not so wild, after all - take a look at the real WW2-period 1936 BMW Schneekrad Another front-wheel tracked motorcycle prototype from 1937 (more info): Modern all-terrain tracked version is proposed by Hyanide & Baal: After the war, the Moto Guzzi 500 cc V8 race bike was seen on the worldbs high-speed racetracks from 1955 to 1957. Going Hubless The hubless wheel was invented by Franco Sbarro, who incorporated it into the Sbarro Osmos car in 1989. He also built at least two motorcycles employing the hubless technology. Modern version of the hubless wheel can be seen in the recent concepts for Harley Davidson Many of us remember the lightcycles from the 1982 movie Tron. The long awaited sequel, Tron Legacy, is set to hit theatres in late 2010 and will feature this splendid looking specimen: Swordfish concept chopper: Rats & Kustoms This custom built motorcycle, called Iceman II, was made by Walz Hardcore Choppers of Germany for Formula One world champion Kimi Raikonnen: Rat bikes are usually defined as motorcycles that are decades old, in a poor state of repair, but still maintained and kept roadworthy by their owners on a shoestring budget. Survival bikes do resemble rat bikes and the two are often confused, although survival bikes are usually modified in much the same way that cars are customized. Here are some great examples of both of these types of machines. Imagine seeing this coming up behind you in your rear view mirror (below left)? On the right is the rounded green beauty, also seen at the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally: Not sure what kind of a view youbd get of the road ahead on this one (image below left)? On the right you can see a really inventive fuel tank - On the left image below is The Survival Bike from some sort of Zombie Apocalypse... Whereas the owners of the bike (below right) decided to actually attach the coffin as a sidecar: We featured what we had speculated might be the worldbs largest motorcycle in Magnificent Motorcycles Part One, but the biggest one on the planet may actually be this one. This bike is pretty big too and apparently this machine, called the Gunbus, is perfectly capable of being taken out on the road. Want to travel in style? Why not try this Harley Davidson and limousine combination? Concept Beasts Finally, herebs a selection of concept motorcycles, which may or may not see the light of day at some point in the future. Herebs the Akira concept bike: FuturA was designed by Mario Malagrino of the Florence Design Academy (left)... Romanian 3D artist Adrian Baluta created this cool bike called Darklight (right): Above image, bottom row: the Suzuki Biplane and the Victory Vision 800 concept bike produced by Victory, a division of Polaris ATV's. William Woods designed the Fallout concept motorcycle in 2009 (below left). The Wrath concept (below right) by Alexander Barnard is dubbed a bfuture modern retro chopperb for the year 2083: = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org From nobbc at sonic.net Tue Feb 1 16:58:20 2011 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 15:58:20 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Magnificent Motorcycles *RANT* In-Reply-To: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B551@echo01.SID.LOCAL> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B551@echo01.SID.LOCAL> Message-ID: <4D489E1C.7040509@sonic.net> Looks like there were a bunch of jpegs attached and stripped. A reminder: This list is TEXT ONLY and all attachments and HTML are stripped automatically. No one should be using HTML for email anyway IMHO. If you must show us pictures etc., post them on one of the many free sites and just send us the link. While I'm ranting anyway, I have received complaints about list threads. If you are changing a subject, start a new thread. Please don't reply to an existing message with entirely different subject material unrelated to the thread you are replying too. Normally this list is quiet enough that it doesn't matter much but we have been busier than normal lately and I hear rumblings from the masses that like to filter threads. Ron 58 MGA Frank Morris wrote: > Was there a link to this information. Yes, I likes bikes! From mvg1 at att.net Tue Feb 1 17:00:26 2011 From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:00:26 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Dark Roasted Blend: Magnificent Motorcycles, Part 2 Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: RACER BUD To: MIKE THE MOLDER GIANANDREA Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:50 PM Subject: Dark Roasted Blend: Magnificent Motorcycles, Part 2 Here it is Mike...and they'll be another one going out shortly. Racer Bud http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2010/12/magnificent-motorcycles-part-2.html From sirplb at aol.com Tue Feb 1 17:35:01 2011 From: sirplb at aol.com (sirplb at aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:35:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: <1B0F39CED1F54572A31306EFB4276114@williamsonPC> References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com> <1B0F39CED1F54572A31306EFB4276114@williamsonPC> Message-ID: <8CD90882983FA52-14D4-C127@webmail-m007.sysops.aol.com> Hi Cliff, Thanks for this thread. <> Mine is actually for sale. (pretty original 74 Jensen Healy, 4 spd) <> Fair enough. Cheers, Pat We are up to 60 cars. Wow! And this doesn't include Dawson!!! From don at napanet.net Tue Feb 1 17:58:55 2011 From: don at napanet.net (Don) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 16:58:55 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Mostly British Film Festival Message-ID: <20110202005903.1B2E7AE733@mail.dsl.napanet.net> If your love for British cars extends to films, check out this website for upcoming British (and almost British) films at the Rafael Theater in San Rafael. http://www.cafilm.org/rfc/films/1509.html From mvg1 at att.net Tue Feb 1 18:11:41 2011 From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:11:41 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: MORE.... Magnificent Motorcycles Wait til ya see the VESPA Message-ID: <758A95A263A54FC2911DD57EBE635AAE@mike> Since some you were actually interested, here are some more Magnificent Motorcycles. MVG ----- Original Message ----- From: RACER BUD To: RACER BUD Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:54 PM Subject: Fw: MORE.... Magnificent Motorcycles Wait til ya see the VESPA Here's a link to some more incredible motorcycles. Racer Bud http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2010/06/magnificent-motorcycles-part-1.html From hawkview at sonic.net Tue Feb 1 18:25:05 2011 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:25:05 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: <4D484BE8.1020606@pacbell.net> References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com><1B0F39CED1F54572A31306EFB4276114@williamsonPC><20110201064821.13748AE68F@mail.dsl.napanet.net> <4D484BE8.1020606@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <29EC5DCA3BD941CDAC5A6CC586F415CD@williamsonPC> Joe. Did you mean to put something in this email? Or am I missing it? Clif -----Original Message----- From: Joe Arbunic Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:07 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From hawkview at sonic.net Tue Feb 1 19:10:51 2011 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:10:51 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Magnificent Motorcycles *RANT* In-Reply-To: <4D489E1C.7040509@sonic.net> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B551@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <4D489E1C.7040509@sonic.net> Message-ID: Ron. I don't have a problem with people emailing me direct with their car information. And I certainly see what you mean by multiple subjects added the Car List. In this case it was because I was asking questions about the Car List that lead to different, but related responses. It was actually quite fun batting that subject back and forth, however it did create a lot more than normal email. Also, in the past there was considerable email about British beer and for those involved with that subject it must have been a lot of fun as well. I think this site is a hoot and prefer the banter to that of a site that is single subject like the JHPS website. Lots of great information, but very little beyond that. In fact an email just came through as I was typing about the British Film Festival. The Motorcycle stuff was very interesting, but hardly car oriented. I had no idea such bikes existed. If fun is our goal, then we have to put up with what others consider fun. I enjoy this stuff...others don't. Oh well. It only take a second to delete an email if there is no interest. Clif 74 JH -----Original Message----- From: Ron Engelhardt Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:58 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Magnificent Motorcycles *RANT* Looks like there were a bunch of jpegs attached and stripped. A reminder: This list is TEXT ONLY and all attachments and HTML are stripped automatically. No one should be using HTML for email anyway IMHO. If you must show us pictures etc., post them on one of the many free sites and just send us the link. While I'm ranting anyway, I have received complaints about list threads. If you are changing a subject, start a new thread. Please don't reply to an existing message with entirely different subject material unrelated to the thread you are replying too. Normally this list is quiet enough that it doesn't matter much but we have been busier than normal lately and I hear rumblings from the masses that like to filter threads. Ron 58 MGA Frank Morris wrote: > Was there a link to this information. Yes, I likes bikes! _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 19:14:20 2011 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:14:20 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Magnificent Motorcycles *RANT* In-Reply-To: <4D489E1C.7040509@sonic.net> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B551@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <4D489E1C.7040509@sonic.net> Message-ID: Thank you, Ron. Keep up the good work. I think it is time I contribute again to help defray the expense. Cheerio, Rob On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > Looks like there were a bunch of jpegs attached and stripped. > > A reminder: This list is TEXT ONLY and all attachments and HTML are > stripped automatically. No one should be using HTML for email anyway IMHO. > If you must show us pictures etc., post them on one of the many free sites > and just send us the link. While I'm ranting anyway, I have received > complaints about list threads. If you are changing a subject, start a new > thread. Please don't reply to an existing message with entirely different > subject material unrelated to the thread you are replying too. Normally this > list is quiet enough that it doesn't matter much but we have been busier > than normal lately and I hear rumblings from the masses that like to filter > threads. > > Ron > 58 MGA > > Frank Morris wrote: > >> Was there a link to this information. Yes, I likes bikes! >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/apexbrit2 at gmail.com From gtwincams at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 22:12:36 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 21:12:36 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Magnificent Motorcycles *RANT* In-Reply-To: <4D489E1C.7040509@sonic.net> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B551@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <4D489E1C.7040509@sonic.net> Message-ID: <4D48E7C4.7020706@gmail.com> On 2/1/2011 3:58 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > While I'm ranting anyway, I have received complaints about list > threads. If you are changing a subject, start a new thread. Please > don't reply to an existing message with entirely different subject > material unrelated to the thread you are replying too. Normally this > list is quiet enough that it doesn't matter much but we have been > busier than normal lately and I hear rumblings from the masses that > like to filter threads. Thanks for this helpful and very reasonable reminder, Ron. I'll pay particular attention to this in future. Cheers, Greg Tatarian > > Ron > 58 MGA From jarbunic at pacbell.net Wed Feb 2 10:32:02 2011 From: jarbunic at pacbell.net (Joe Arbunic) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 09:32:02 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: <29EC5DCA3BD941CDAC5A6CC586F415CD@williamsonPC> References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com><1B0F39CED1F54572A31306EFB4276114@williamsonPC><20110201064821.13748AE68F@mail.dsl.napanet.net> <4D484BE8.1020606@pacbell.net> <29EC5DCA3BD941CDAC5A6CC586F415CD@williamsonPC> Message-ID: <4D499512.8060507@pacbell.net> From morganspierce at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 10:47:02 2011 From: morganspierce at gmail.com (Morgan Pierce) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 09:47:02 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: <4D499512.8060507@pacbell.net> References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com> <1B0F39CED1F54572A31306EFB4276114@williamsonPC> <20110201064821.13748AE68F@mail.dsl.napanet.net> <4D484BE8.1020606@pacbell.net> <29EC5DCA3BD941CDAC5A6CC586F415CD@williamsonPC> <4D499512.8060507@pacbell.net> Message-ID: Morgan Pierce Sausalito 1972 TR6 (Damson) 6+/- 1979 Spitfire 1500 (Pimento) 7+/- And I look forward to meeting the group at the upcoming Marin ride! On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Joe Arbunic wrote: > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/morganspierce at gmail.com > -- morgan s. pierce From hawkview at sonic.net Wed Feb 2 11:35:15 2011 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 10:35:15 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com><1B0F39CED1F54572A31306EFB4276114@williamsonPC><20110201064821.13748AE68F@mail.dsl.napanet.net><4D484BE8.1020606@pacbell.net><29EC5DCA3BD941CDAC5A6CC586F415CD@williamsonPC><4D499512.8060507@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <55D8B43748AA441BA18B35EC6CD851C8@williamsonPC> Morgan. Are Damson and Pimento colors? Clif -----Original Message----- From: Morgan Pierce Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 9:47 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list Morgan Pierce Sausalito 1972 TR6 (Damson) 6+/- 1979 Spitfire 1500 (Pimento) 7+/- And I look forward to meeting the group at the upcoming Marin ride! On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Joe Arbunic wrote: > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/morganspierce at gmail.com > -- morgan s. pierce _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From hawkview at sonic.net Wed Feb 2 11:37:35 2011 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 10:37:35 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: <4D499512.8060507@pacbell.net> References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com><1B0F39CED1F54572A31306EFB4276114@williamsonPC><20110201064821.13748AE68F@mail.dsl.napanet.net><4D484BE8.1020606@pacbell.net><29EC5DCA3BD941CDAC5A6CC586F415CD@williamsonPC> <4D499512.8060507@pacbell.net> Message-ID: Joe, Not sure why Joe, but nothing is coming through on your emails? Clif -----Original Message----- From: Joe Arbunic Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 9:32 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From morganspierce at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 11:56:35 2011 From: morganspierce at gmail.com (Morgan Pierce) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 10:56:35 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: <55D8B43748AA441BA18B35EC6CD851C8@williamsonPC> References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com> <1B0F39CED1F54572A31306EFB4276114@williamsonPC> <20110201064821.13748AE68F@mail.dsl.napanet.net> <4D484BE8.1020606@pacbell.net> <29EC5DCA3BD941CDAC5A6CC586F415CD@williamsonPC> <4D499512.8060507@pacbell.net> <55D8B43748AA441BA18B35EC6CD851C8@williamsonPC> Message-ID: Yes - Damson and Pimento are colors. Sorry for the lack of clarification and I should note that the Spitfire was originally Carmine Red, as Pimento was not available in the '79 model year to my knowledge. Thanks, Morgan On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson < hawkview at sonic.net> wrote: > Morgan. > Are Damson and Pimento colors? > Clif > > -----Original Message----- From: Morgan Pierce > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 9:47 AM > > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list > > Morgan Pierce > Sausalito > > 1972 TR6 (Damson) 6+/- > 1979 Spitfire 1500 (Pimento) 7+/- > > And I look forward to meeting the group at the upcoming Marin ride! > > > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Joe Arbunic wrote: > > >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/morganspierce at gmail.com >> >> > > > -- > morgan s. pierce > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net_______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/morganspierce at gmail.com > -- morgan s. pierce From jarbunic at pacbell.net Wed Feb 2 12:25:16 2011 From: jarbunic at pacbell.net (Joe Arbunic) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:25:16 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com><1B0F39CED1F54572A31306EFB4276114@williamsonPC><20110201064821.13748AE68F@mail.dsl.napanet.net><4D484BE8.1020606@pacbell.net><29EC5DCA3BD941CDAC5A6CC586F415CD@williamsonPC> <4D499512.8060507@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <4D49AF9C.6020502@pacbell.net> Clif, I changed my e-mail from HTML to see if that is the problem... Joe Arbunic '72 MGB On 2/2/2011 10:37 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote: > Joe, > Not sure why Joe, but nothing is coming through on your emails? > Clif > > -----Original Message----- From: Joe Arbunic > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 9:32 AM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list > > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jarbunic at pacbell.net From dawsonchurch at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 13:42:34 2011 From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com (Dawson Church) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 10:42:34 -1000 Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com> References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com> Message-ID: 74 Lotus Elite 76 Lotus Eclat Sprint 79 Triumph Spitfire 81 Rolls Royce Silver Spirit 74 Jensen Healey I don't know if we're adding our non British cars.... 81 Fiat Spyder 84 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible And for one that actually STARTS EVERY TIME, and RUNS PERFECTLY ALWAYS (gasp).... a 2010 Honda Crosstour! Dawson On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:08 AM, wrote: > Mark Jansen > 69 XKE Roadster 6 or 7 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > -- Dawson From mewgull at sonic.net Wed Feb 2 13:54:56 2011 From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 12:54:56 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? Message-ID: Hi, Looking for advice here. I'm going to be spending a truck load of money... well, a TR4 trunk load anyway, on parts very shortly. I've been dealing with Moss and have no complaints about the quality but the prices do seem out of whack at times. In the past I've dealt with Victoria (whatever they call it) in the midwest somewhere and also was reasonably satisfied with them. But I have been surprised to find that TR4As are more difficult to find parts for than Land Rovers of the same vintage. Does anyone here have any thoughts on these or any other purveyors? I'm open to recommendations and personal testimonials. Thanks for any insight you can provide. Gerry G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism.  -- Sir William Osler From mitch.utsey at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 14:02:41 2011 From: mitch.utsey at gmail.com (Mitch Utsey) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 13:02:41 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com> Message-ID: Add a 1984 Eldorado to my list. I don't figure anybody'd care about my POS Ford Ranger.... On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Dawson Church wrote: > 74 Lotus Elite > 76 Lotus Eclat Sprint > 79 Triumph Spitfire > 81 Rolls Royce Silver Spirit > 74 Jensen Healey > > I don't know if we're adding our non British cars.... > > 81 Fiat Spyder > 84 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible > > And for one that actually STARTS EVERY TIME, and RUNS PERFECTLY ALWAYS > (gasp).... > > a 2010 Honda Crosstour! > > Dawson > > > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:08 AM, wrote: > > > Mark Jansen > > 69 XKE Roadster 6 or 7 > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > > > > > > -- > Dawson > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mitch.utsey at gmail.com From sonomashoe at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 14:19:26 2011 From: sonomashoe at gmail.com (William Shoemaker) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 13:19:26 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com> Message-ID: <4D49CA5E.1000502@gmail.com> Hey If we're listing non British rides now..Plz add: '56 Chevy 210 modified '61 Caddy Camper (one of the first RV's) - Bill Shoemaker...already listed my 2 Jags On 2/2/2011 1:02 PM, Mitch Utsey wrote: > Add a 1984 Eldorado to my list. I don't figure anybody'd care about my POS > Ford Ranger.... > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Dawson Churchwrote: > >> 74 Lotus Elite >> 76 Lotus Eclat Sprint >> 79 Triumph Spitfire >> 81 Rolls Royce Silver Spirit >> 74 Jensen Healey >> >> I don't know if we're adding our non British cars.... >> >> 81 Fiat Spyder >> 84 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible >> >> And for one that actually STARTS EVERY TIME, and RUNS PERFECTLY ALWAYS >> (gasp).... >> >> a 2010 Honda Crosstour! >> >> Dawson >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:08 AM, wrote: >> >>> Mark Jansen >>> 69 XKE Roadster 6 or 7 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Dawson >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mitch.utsey at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/sonomashoe at gmail.com From mvg1 at att.net Wed Feb 2 14:38:59 2011 From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 13:38:59 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? References: Message-ID: <5D24DA578F4E4673BC9748658AAE34BA@mike> Hi Gerry, I recently had Greg Tatarian tune my TR4, and supposedly add a Pertronix electronic igniton module to my distributor, so I priced points, plugs, condensor, and the Pertronics, at Moss, Wayne's Triumph Only, and Jordan Imports in Santa Rosa. Wayne's used to sell Moss parts at a 15% discount, but I think that has changed. Over all Jordan's had the lowest prices, but didn't have the parts in stock, but they were typically one day out. Probably longer for some parts, but still less expensive and local. I like to support local business when ever I can. Also, Moss sent me the wrong Pertronix part, so the old points were cleaned up and put back in, as we were under a time constraint due to weather. Even so, my car runs much much better, good job Greg. I hope this helps you. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "G. Mugele" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 12:54 PM Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? > Hi, > > Looking for advice here. I'm going to be spending a truck load of > money... well, a TR4 trunk load anyway, on parts very shortly. I've > been dealing with Moss and have no complaints about the quality but > the prices do seem out of whack at times. In the past I've dealt with > Victoria (whatever they call it) in the midwest somewhere and also was > reasonably satisfied with them. > > But I have been surprised to find that TR4As are more difficult to > find parts for than Land Rovers of the same vintage. Does anyone here > have any thoughts on these or any other purveyors? I'm open to > recommendations and personal testimonials. Thanks for any insight you > can provide. > > Gerry > > > G. Mugele > mewgull at mugele.net > > *** The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism.  -- Sir > William Osler > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at att.net From mewgull at sonic.net Wed Feb 2 14:59:02 2011 From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 13:59:02 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? In-Reply-To: <5D24DA578F4E4673BC9748658AAE34BA@mike> References: <5D24DA578F4E4673BC9748658AAE34BA@mike> Message-ID: Thanks Michael, it does indeed help. I completely forgot about Jordan's. However the parts I'm looking for are not the consumable kind for the most part. I need a new temp-gauge (electric) and a Voltmeter. (I'm going to have more faith in that than the Ammeter since I have an alternator on mine.) Other stuff needed (so far) wiper switch, choke cable, air duct panels for the radiator, maybe a new wiper motor, etc. Oh... and who locally would be the favorite choice for replacing the windshield (further away on the calendar but needed). I have used empire glass in the past but on modern stuff. And to be more specific: Does anyone have any experience at all with www.englishparts.com ? They seem to have some stuff at remarkable prices. Thanks again, Gerry On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: > I recently had Greg Tatarian tune my TR4, and supposedly add a > Pertronix electronic igniton module to my distributor, so I priced > points, plugs, condensor, and the Pertronics, at Moss, Wayne's > Triumph Only, and Jordan Imports in Santa Rosa. Wayne's used to sell > Moss parts at a 15% discount, but I think that has changed. Over all > Jordan's had the lowest prices, but didn't have the parts in stock, > but they were typically one day out. Probably longer for some parts, > but still less expensive and local. I like to support local business > when ever I can. Also, Moss sent me the wrong Pertronix part, so the > old points were cleaned up and put back in, as we were under a time > constraint due to weather. Even so, my car runs much much better, > good job Greg. I hope this helps you. G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism.  -- Sir William Osler From badstubner at aol.com Wed Feb 2 15:03:48 2011 From: badstubner at aol.com (badstubner at aol.com) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:03:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Nobbc] (nobbc) car list Message-ID: <8CD913C340555F9-1140-1428@webmail-m095.sysops.aol.com> Bill Badstubner Santa Rosa '58 Jaguar XK-150 FHC '53 MG-TD Non-Brit: '77 Pontiac Firebird Trans-AM From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 15:18:38 2011 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:18:38 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? In-Reply-To: <5D24DA578F4E4673BC9748658AAE34BA@mike> References: <5D24DA578F4E4673BC9748658AAE34BA@mike> Message-ID: Gerry - I have had good service and reasonable prices from British Parts Northwest. Moss and Victoria were good, but I was a wholesale customer. Cheers, Rob On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: > Hi Gerry, > > I recently had Greg Tatarian tune my TR4, and supposedly add a Pertronix > electronic igniton module to my distributor, so I priced points, plugs, > condensor, and the Pertronics, at Moss, Wayne's Triumph Only, and Jordan > Imports in Santa Rosa. Wayne's used to sell Moss parts at a 15% discount, > but I think that has changed. Over all Jordan's had the lowest prices, but > didn't have the parts in stock, but they were typically one day out. > Probably longer for some parts, but still less expensive and local. I like > to support local business when ever I can. Also, Moss sent me the wrong > Pertronix part, so the old points were cleaned up and put back in, as we > were under a time constraint due to weather. Even so, my car runs much much > better, good job Greg. I hope this helps you. > > Michael > 64 TR4 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "G. Mugele" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 12:54 PM > Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? > > > Hi, >> >> Looking for advice here. I'm going to be spending a truck load of >> money... well, a TR4 trunk load anyway, on parts very shortly. I've >> been dealing with Moss and have no complaints about the quality but >> the prices do seem out of whack at times. In the past I've dealt with >> Victoria (whatever they call it) in the midwest somewhere and also was >> reasonably satisfied with them. >> >> But I have been surprised to find that TR4As are more difficult to >> find parts for than Land Rovers of the same vintage. Does anyone here >> have any thoughts on these or any other purveyors? I'm open to >> recommendations and personal testimonials. Thanks for any insight you >> can provide. >> >> Gerry >> >> >> G. Mugele >> mewgull at mugele.net >> >> *** The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism. -- Sir >> William Osler >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at att.net >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/apexbrit2 at gmail.com From nobbc at sonic.net Wed Feb 2 15:49:45 2011 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 14:49:45 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? In-Reply-To: References: <5D24DA578F4E4673BC9748658AAE34BA@mike> Message-ID: <4D49DF89.8050208@sonic.net> Second British Parts Northwest. Lbcarco.com is a Moss distributor who offers a discount and is a really great guy. Steve used to go to a Triumph only wrecking yard in Stockton, don't recall the name but someone on the list will. I hope you get on the road again real soon...it'll be nice to see that car again! Ron 58 MGA Robin Jackson wrote: > Gerry - I have had good service and reasonable prices from British Parts > Northwest. Moss and Victoria were good, but I was a wholesale customer. > Cheers, Rob > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: From don at napanet.net Wed Feb 2 15:59:11 2011 From: don at napanet.net (Don) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 14:59:11 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? In-Reply-To: References: <5D24DA578F4E4673BC9748658AAE34BA@mike> Message-ID: <20110202225938.55835AE675@mail.dsl.napanet.net> I have had best luck with windshield replacements with Van Koontz on Piner Road. It is a solo act, and the guy has been doing this work for 40 years or so. Don At 01:59 PM 2/2/2011, G. Mugele wrote: >Thanks Michael, it does indeed help. I completely forgot about >Jordan's. However the parts I'm looking for are not the consumable >kind for the most part. I need a new temp-gauge (electric) and a >Voltmeter. (I'm going to have more faith in that than the Ammeter >since I have an alternator on mine.) Other stuff needed (so far) >wiper switch, choke cable, air duct panels for the radiator, maybe a >new wiper motor, etc. Oh... and who locally would be the favorite >choice for replacing the windshield (further away on the calendar but >needed). I have used empire glass in the past but on modern stuff. > >And to be more specific: Does anyone have any experience at all with >www.englishparts.com >? They seem to have some stuff at remarkable prices. > >Thanks again, >Gerry > > >On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: > >>I recently had Greg Tatarian tune my TR4, and supposedly add a >>Pertronix electronic igniton module to my distributor, so I priced >>points, plugs, condensor, and the Pertronics, at Moss, Wayne's >>Triumph Only, and Jordan Imports in Santa Rosa. Wayne's used to sell >>Moss parts at a 15% discount, but I think that has changed. Over all >>Jordan's had the lowest prices, but didn't have the parts in stock, >>but they were typically one day out. Probably longer for some parts, >>but still less expensive and local. I like to support local business >>when ever I can. Also, Moss sent me the wrong Pertronix part, so the >>old points were cleaned up and put back in, as we were under a time >>constraint due to weather. Even so, my car runs much much better, >>good job Greg. I hope this helps you. > >G. Mugele >mewgull at mugele.net > >*** The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism. -- Sir >William Osler >_______________________________________________ >Nobbc at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $11.47 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/don at napanet.net > > > >----- > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3418 - Release Date: 02/02/11 From don at napanet.net Wed Feb 2 16:04:30 2011 From: don at napanet.net (Don) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 15:04:30 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Jordans Auto Parts Message-ID: <20110202230436.E6C0FAE6B9@mail.dsl.napanet.net> By the way, Ron Jordan just retired from his parts business. He's a nice guy and always was willing to go the extra mile (or kilometre). The store will go on, but with a new owner. I can remember back when there were two competing import parts stores on Santa Rosa Avenue, Metric and Imparts (I think that was the name). That was in the late '60s, early '70s. On a Saturday morning waiting for the doors to open, there would be a line of customers waiting to get MG and VW parts! My, how the world has changed. At 01:59 PM 2/2/2011, G. Mugele wrote: >Thanks Michael, it does indeed help. I completely forgot about >Jordan's. However the parts I'm looking for are not the consumable >kind for the most part. I need a new temp-gauge (electric) and a >Voltmeter. (I'm going to have more faith in that than the Ammeter >since I have an alternator on mine.) Other stuff needed (so far) >wiper switch, choke cable, air duct panels for the radiator, maybe a >new wiper motor, etc. Oh... and who locally would be the favorite >choice for replacing the windshield (further away on the calendar but >needed). I have used empire glass in the past but on modern stuff. > >And to be more specific: Does anyone have any experience at all with >www.englishparts.com >? They seem to have some stuff at remarkable prices. > >Thanks again, >Gerry From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 17:55:52 2011 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:55:52 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Jordans Auto Parts In-Reply-To: <20110202230436.E6C0FAE6B9@mail.dsl.napanet.net> References: <20110202230436.E6C0FAE6B9@mail.dsl.napanet.net> Message-ID: I'm glad to hear Ron has joined those of us who have more to do now we are retired than we ever had working. I first met him when he worked for Mark Smothers at the store which is now a deli on S.R Ave. Ron gave me a few boxes of Brit car parts a few years back: SU throttle shafts, needles, etc. Would be glad to pass them on to members who need such items and have a worn one for matching. Cheers, Rj On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Don wrote: > By the way, Ron Jordan just retired from his parts business. He's a nice > guy and always was willing to go the extra mile (or kilometre). The store > will go on, but with a new owner. I can remember back when there were two > competing import parts stores on Santa Rosa Avenue, Metric and Imparts (I > think that was the name). That was in the late '60s, early '70s. On a > Saturday morning waiting for the doors to open, there would be a line of > customers waiting to get MG and VW parts! My, how the world has changed. > > > > At 01:59 PM 2/2/2011, G. Mugele wrote: > >> Thanks Michael, it does indeed help. I completely forgot about >> Jordan's. However the parts I'm looking for are not the consumable >> kind for the most part. I need a new temp-gauge (electric) and a >> Voltmeter. (I'm going to have more faith in that than the Ammeter >> since I have an alternator on mine.) Other stuff needed (so far) >> wiper switch, choke cable, air duct panels for the radiator, maybe a >> new wiper motor, etc. Oh... and who locally would be the favorite >> choice for replacing the windshield (further away on the calendar but >> needed). I have used empire glass in the past but on modern stuff. >> >> And to be more specific: Does anyone have any experience at all with >> www.englishparts.com >> ? They seem to have some stuff at remarkable prices. >> >> Thanks again, >> Gerry >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/apexbrit2 at gmail.com From gtwincams at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 18:09:35 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (gtwincams at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 01:09:35 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? Message-ID: Gerry, The Roadster Factory has high quality parts and rotating specials. Shipping is a bit pricey but that goes on special too. TRF has lots of parts made to spec and buys in the best, and support TR4s well. Moss is a mixed bag, some excellent parts and some not as good, but prices can be steep. Victoria British can be very economical and stocks lots of parts, but some not the finest quality. Service of all three is good in my experience. British Parts Northwest is a smaller operation but the have good quality parts for the most part, good prices and service. Many parts are all made in India or Asia, so it doesn't matter where you buy those, but if there is a UK or US part, they usually fit and look better and last longer. Some are NLA, so NOS or NORS are the only options. Many other options, but these are big, more local, and easy. Cheers, Greg Tatarian ------Original Message------ From: G. Mugele Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net To: North Bay British Car Club ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? Sent: Feb 2, 2011 12:54 PM Hi, Looking for advice here. I'm going to be spending a truck load of money... well, a TR4 trunk load anyway, on parts very shortly. I've been dealing with Moss and have no complaints about the quality but the prices do seem out of whack at times. In the past I've dealt with Victoria (whatever they call it) in the midwest somewhere and also was reasonably satisfied with them. But I have been surprised to find that TR4As are more difficult to find parts for than Land Rovers of the same vintage. Does anyone here have any thoughts on these or any other purveyors? I'm open to recommendations and personal testimonials. Thanks for any insight you can provide. Gerry G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism.  -- Sir William Osler _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/gtwincams at gmail.com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From hawkview at sonic.net Wed Feb 2 18:24:16 2011 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:24:16 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: <4D49CA5E.1000502@gmail.com> References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com> <4D49CA5E.1000502@gmail.com> Message-ID: OK kids. This isn't a competition to see who has the most cars. I have conceded to Minis, but like I said, it must have something British in it's chromosome structure, and I don't mean BP oil or gas. So Dawson's, FIX IT AGAIN TONY, Fiat and Caddy didn't get in. Let's try to keep this as British as possible. We are up to 78 cars now so again if anybody wants a copy I will forward it to your email. Just ask. I might print out a batch as well for the next ride. -----Original Message----- From: William Shoemaker Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 1:19 PM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list Hey If we're listing non British rides now..Plz add: '56 Chevy 210 modified '61 Caddy Camper (one of the first RV's) - Bill Shoemaker...already listed my 2 Jags On 2/2/2011 1:02 PM, Mitch Utsey wrote: > Add a 1984 Eldorado to my list. I don't figure anybody'd care about my POS > Ford Ranger.... > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Dawson > Churchwrote: > >> 74 Lotus Elite >> 76 Lotus Eclat Sprint >> 79 Triumph Spitfire >> 81 Rolls Royce Silver Spirit >> 74 Jensen Healey >> >> I don't know if we're adding our non British cars.... >> >> 81 Fiat Spyder >> 84 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible >> >> And for one that actually STARTS EVERY TIME, and RUNS PERFECTLY ALWAYS >> (gasp).... >> >> a 2010 Honda Crosstour! >> >> Dawson >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:08 AM, wrote: >> >>> Mark Jansen >>> 69 XKE Roadster 6 or 7 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Dawson >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mitch.utsey at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/sonomashoe at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From bluesson at hotmail.com Wed Feb 2 18:36:11 2011 From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:36:11 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] More than you want to know about Minis In-Reply-To: <557D25F2A15C44E0A21ED829D772B01E@mike> References: <00b301cbc0f2$526a2de0$f73e89a0$@com><8B181596654D424AA0C560E5C916C064@williamsonPC><4D46E1BD.2090907@gmail.com>, <6853A7A0E8C8418494DB39ABB18AD3D0@williamsonPC>, <557D25F2A15C44E0A21ED829D772B01E@mike> Message-ID: It's a crazy mixed up automotive world out there. I converse regularly with the UK owners of the Grinnall Scorpion. I don't believe the Brits are too happy that their iconic Mini Cooper was bought up by the Krauts. It's hard to even get many of them to discuss the new car. Having owned a very original Austin Mini Cooper that was built in 2/62, and now owning a modern turbocharged 07 Mini S, I assure that the old one was a lot of FUN...IF you could bear to drive it more than an hour from home and back. Brakes (even with the TINY front discs): LOUSY. Acceleration: More like ACCUMULATION with a twin carbed approx 1000cc engine. The original is the ultimate machine to toss into corners and keep your foot in it, but the modern one would be TOUGH to catch in the original, given the raw accerration, and the excellent (IF different) handling of the new one. And the new S gets far better gas mileage than the original...plus I can drive it across country. While discussing mixed up auto marques...isn't a Jaguar a Ford these days? My Grinnall Scorpion, designed and built in the UK as either a kit or a finished car, runs various BMW drivetrains right out of the K series BMW bikes, and does it with the full approval of BMW. IF a Beretta model 92 pistol is built in Kentucky, is it still Italian? They build them there now. And how about that little Walther PPK that James Bond carried...those are made in the USA now, too. That's a GERMAN pistol, and I believe it too is made in Kentucky or Virginia. Remember, too...you might be playing a Fender Stratocaster (nothing much more iconic American than a Fender Strat) it's likely made in either Mexico or Japan. In closing, you all should try driving a modern 07 and up turbocharged Mini Cooper S. I don't think you'll find much to complain about, other than the fact that you don't own one. They're all good by me. That includes the Beretta, made in Italy or the USA, and the Walther, made in Germany or the USA, and all those Fender guitars. The end products seem to work out alright, despite the mixed up pedigrees. Tom > From: mvg1 at att.net > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:30:14 -0800 > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] More than you want to know about Minis > > Well let me chime in here, > > I do not clearly recall how it came to be, but BMW purchased the assets of > BMC some years ago, and produced the MINI, so the MINI is a british car > manufactured by BMW in their BMW factories, wherever. So I guess we can say > the MINI is a Gertish car. Following that lineage, I ran into a guy in a gas > station in Novato some years back, who drove a 1937 BMW convertable. I could > not readily identify the make of his car, I thought maybe a Mercedes? But it > was vaguely familiar to me, it took me a few minutes to think back to my > three 50's Jags. We started talking, he invited me back to his shop on lower > Grant Ave, where he showed me some other older cars he had stored, and told > me the history / relationship of BMW and Jaguar. As I was told, late in > World War II, during British raids on some German factories, some British > paratroopers raided a bombed out BMW factory, walking off with a great many > original BMW design drawings, some of which, included the familiar oval > shaped grills and long sloping butterfly fenders of the XK series and the Mk > I & II 3.4 and 3.8 model sedans. Upon close examination of his BMW, it > appeared to me that I could probably remove the grill from his car and > install it directly onto my 59 MK I 3.4 sedan, (Hummmmm) so the > relationship between BMW and BMC and the MINI would appear to go way back, > as it was told to me. Maybe one of our British club members can shed a > little more light on this. Andy, Anybody? > > As it happened, this gentleman was president of a national BMW club, and > upon finding out the nature of my business, he had me mold up a reproduction > of an original BMW tool, kit sold with the older BMW's, which he sold to > club members, because, as many of us know, original equipment items for our > old cars can be next to impossible to find. > > Michael > 64 TR4 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 12:08 PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] More than you want to know about Minis > > > > Thanks Gerry. > > But what I get from this is that the BMW Mini is not British at all. > > Except for a few part here and there and a similar exterior design, it is > > pretty much "GERMAN". I think almost all manufacturers of cars buy parts > > made in other countries, but I don't think because a Toyota or any of it's > > parts are made in the USA, that it is an American car. Nor a VW made in > > Mexico, is a Mexican car. In fact it would seem that the only thing that > > truly has British heritage on the Mini is the name "Mini", as your > > description below would attest. I don't know if Cooper was the designer > > of the BMW Mini, but even that would not change if it was British or not, > > since Pininfarina was the designer of many non Italian cars that are not > > considered Italian including the Jaguar, and Rolls-Royce. > > Please, don't get me wrong. I love the Mini, British, or German. I had > > an occasion back in 1970 to be hitch hiking in Sweden and was picked up by > > a Swed driving a Dodge Charger. After a few miles of back country roads a > > Mini came up behind and past us. Well this Swed was not going to be > > outdone by a little cracker box so off we went. And after about 5 miles > > of twisting Swedish roads he gave up. I was so pumped up by the > > adrenaline rush caused by the chase I was shaking when he dropped my off > > in the middle of no where. At that point I realized, that "might does not > > make right" and fell crazy in love with the Mini. > > Clif > > 74 JH > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: G. Mugele > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 11:03 AM > > To: North Bay British Car Club > > Subject: [Nobbc] More than you want to know about Minis > > > > Ahem... well Greg, you have the virtue of youth; you're not old > > enough to really have this down. However, it was not as straight- > > forward as all that. > > > > BMC built the Austin Seven and Morris Mini-Minor at a couple plants in > > England beginning in '59 or so. The Morris quickly acquired the > > sobriquet 'Mini" in popular UK vernacular. Very soon afterward the > > Austin also became the 'Mini.' I can only guess that the appellation > > was the result of how people described them. Anyway... as the > > popularity grew BMC did some badge engineering and also marketed the > > Riley Elf and the Wolseley Hornet, giving them some hideous fins and > > other awkward cosmetics. Those poor cousins were also called Minis. > > Not long after the initial introduction, BMC upped the displacement to > > a throbbing hunk of iron displacing 998cc and called it the Austin > > Mini Cooper or the Morris Mini Cooper. Those soon became simply > > "Mini Coopers." Time and popularity soon brought us many variants as > > well as more and more powerful versions. Those sporty ones were > > labeled with things like 'S' and '1275 S.' > > > > Around the time or shortly after BMC became British Leyland, the > > company formally adopted the Mini name and the cars were sold under > > the 'Mini' label. Of course by then there were variants all over the > > world: Italy, Spain, Chile, New Zealand, Belgium and a number of other > > countries all had plants. Some were factory and some were built under > > license (Innocenti). I don't know who made the Mini Moke but I suspect > > that it was an official BMC product. > > > > In the 90s BMW became the parent company by buying Land Rover (Rover > > Group) from British Aerospace. At that time Rover Group was owner of > > what was left of BMC. I suspect BMW bought Rover to cover for the > > lack of an SUV in the market. When BMW introduced the X5 they quickly > > dumped Land Rover on Ford and at the same time sold the rest of Rover > > Group > > (including MG) to some British consortium. But BMW decided to keep > > the Mini name and opted to build a new model. The original Mini was > > out of production by 2000 or so. > > > > The BMW Mini is related only in layout and appearance. > > > > BTW mine was a '61 Mini Cooper. It was grossly overpowered :) with > > that 55 HP beast under the hood. I am amazed that I survived owning > > that incredibly fun little car: it inspired spirited driving well > > beyond my skills at the time. These days, with 400+ HP engines > > relatively commonplace, it's hard to imagine that 50 years ago 100 > > horsepower was a real handful, especially in our LBCs. > > > > This concludes todays lecture. > > > > Gerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:22 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > > > >> I'll let John answer to tell you what he wants to call his MINI, but > >> here's the deal on these cars (I know as we have a 2011 Mini John Cooper > >> Works (JCW) Hardtop; > >> > >> The car company is "MINI", which as owned by BMW differentiates its name > >> from the original "Mini", which, short version here, was made both by > >> Austin and Morris in the UK, and other companies overseas under license > >> during the day. > > > > G. Mugele > > mewgull at mugele.net > > > > *** "Life in Lubbock, Texas taught me two things. One is that God > > loves you and you're going to burn in hell. The other is that sex is > > the most awful, dirty thing on the face of the earth and you should > > save it for someone you love." -- Butch Hancock > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at att.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/bluesson at hotmail.com From jkenner at tamcab.com Wed Feb 2 18:37:15 2011 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:37:15 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? In-Reply-To: <20110203011905.2D57C187871@autox.team.net> References: <20110203011905.2D57C187871@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <002701cbc342$e41c2a20$ac547e60$@com> Gerry, the absolute best is Rimmer Bros. in the UK. They have what you need and if you are organized and get it all at once shipping is bearable. Plus you don't have to pay V.A.T. JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of gtwincams at gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:10 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? Gerry, The Roadster Factory has high quality parts and rotating specials. Shipping is a bit pricey but that goes on special too. TRF has lots of parts made to spec and buys in the best, and support TR4s well. Moss is a mixed bag, some excellent parts and some not as good, but prices can be steep. Victoria British can be very economical and stocks lots of parts, but some not the finest quality. Service of all three is good in my experience. British Parts Northwest is a smaller operation but the have good quality parts for the most part, good prices and service. Many parts are all made in India or Asia, so it doesn't matter where you buy those, but if there is a UK or US part, they usually fit and look better and last longer. Some are NLA, so NOS or NORS are the only options. Many other options, but these are big, more local, and easy. Cheers, Greg Tatarian ------Original Message------ From: G. Mugele Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net To: North Bay British Car Club ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? Sent: Feb 2, 2011 12:54 PM Hi, Looking for advice here. I'm going to be spending a truck load of money... well, a TR4 trunk load anyway, on parts very shortly. I've been dealing with Moss and have no complaints about the quality but the prices do seem out of whack at times. In the past I've dealt with Victoria (whatever they call it) in the midwest somewhere and also was reasonably satisfied with them. But I have been surprised to find that TR4As are more difficult to find parts for than Land Rovers of the same vintage. Does anyone here have any thoughts on these or any other purveyors? I'm open to recommendations and personal testimonials. Thanks for any insight you can provide. Gerry G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism.  -- Sir William Osler _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/gtwincams at gmail.com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jkenner at tamcab.com From norman.weinfeld at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 18:45:01 2011 From: norman.weinfeld at gmail.com (Norman S. Weinfeld) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:45:01 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com> <4D49CA5E.1000502@gmail.com> Message-ID: Would enjoy receiving a copy of the list at norman.weinfeld at gmail.com. Thanks in advance. '55 XK140 DHC On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson < hawkview at sonic.net> wrote: > OK kids. This isn't a competition to see who has the most cars. > I have conceded to Minis, but like I said, it must have something British > in it's chromosome structure, and I don't mean BP oil or gas. So Dawson's, > FIX IT AGAIN TONY, Fiat and Caddy didn't get in. Let's try to keep this as > British as possible. > We are up to 78 cars now so again if anybody wants a copy I will forward > it to your email. Just ask. I might print out a batch as well for the next > ride. > > -----Original Message----- From: William Shoemaker > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 1:19 PM > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list > > Hey If we're listing non British rides now..Plz add: > '56 Chevy 210 modified > '61 Caddy Camper (one of the first RV's) > - Bill Shoemaker...already listed my 2 Jags > > On 2/2/2011 1:02 PM, Mitch Utsey wrote: > >> Add a 1984 Eldorado to my list. I don't figure anybody'd care about my POS >> Ford Ranger.... >> >> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Dawson Church> >wrote: >> >> 74 Lotus Elite >>> 76 Lotus Eclat Sprint >>> 79 Triumph Spitfire >>> 81 Rolls Royce Silver Spirit >>> 74 Jensen Healey >>> >>> I don't know if we're adding our non British cars.... >>> >>> 81 Fiat Spyder >>> 84 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible >>> >>> And for one that actually STARTS EVERY TIME, and RUNS PERFECTLY ALWAYS >>> (gasp).... >>> >>> a 2010 Honda Crosstour! >>> >>> Dawson >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:08 AM, wrote: >>> >>> Mark Jansen >>>> 69 XKE Roadster 6 or 7 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dawson >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mitch.utsey at gmail.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/sonomashoe at gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net_______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com From bluesson at hotmail.com Wed Feb 2 18:49:18 2011 From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:49:18 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] More than you want to know about Minis In-Reply-To: <4D4759B5.2030309@sonic.net> References: <00b301cbc0f2$526a2de0$f73e89a0$@com><8B181596654D424AA0C560E5C916C064@williamsonPC><4D46E1BD.2090907@gmail.com><6853A7A0E8C8418494DB39ABB18AD3D0@williamsonPC>, <4D471DEC.9010305@gmail.com>, <2990DBBCD1774B748CED2026F92E9439@williamsonPC>, <4D473F54.50901@gmail.com>, <4D4759B5.2030309@sonic.net> Message-ID: Craig is back? Cool! I wondered how long he'd last in that real winter weather, looking at that classic mini "on ice" in a heated garage half the year. Tom R > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:54:13 -0800 > From: nobbc at sonic.net > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] More than you want to know about Minis > > That would be Craig Murphy and he is back in Santa Rosa. By an odd > coincidence he delisted himself from this list today and I've emailed > him to find out what's up. I think family pressures keep him from our > rides. His mini is really nice as you said Greg so I hope he can join > some of our rides! > > Ron > 58 MGA > > Greg Tatarian wrote: > > > We had a member some years > > back with a gorgeous Australian Mini - he moved away, but I wonder if > > he's moved back to California? We need to get him on some club drives, > > if so. > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/bluesson at hotmail.com From krisk1 at yahoo.com Wed Feb 2 18:59:10 2011 From: krisk1 at yahoo.com (Kris Klein) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:59:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com> <4D49CA5E.1000502@gmail.com> Message-ID: <266930.33073.qm@web81906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Am I too late? Austin Healey '59 3000 BT7 ________________________________ From: Norman S. Weinfeld To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 5:45:01 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list Would enjoy receiving a copy of the list at norman.weinfeld at gmail.com. Thanks in advance. '55 XK140 DHC On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson < hawkview at sonic.net> wrote: > OK kids. This isn't a competition to see who has the most cars. > I have conceded to Minis, but like I said, it must have something British > in it's chromosome structure, and I don't mean BP oil or gas. So Dawson's, > FIX IT AGAIN TONY, Fiat and Caddy didn't get in. Let's try to keep this as > British as possible. > We are up to 78 cars now so again if anybody wants a copy I will forward > it to your email. Just ask. I might print out a batch as well for the next > ride. > > -----Original Message----- From: William Shoemaker > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 1:19 PM > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list > > Hey If we're listing non British rides now..Plz add: > '56 Chevy 210 modified > '61 Caddy Camper (one of the first RV's) > - Bill Shoemaker...already listed my 2 Jags > > On 2/2/2011 1:02 PM, Mitch Utsey wrote: > >> Add a 1984 Eldorado to my list. I don't figure anybody'd care about my POS >> Ford Ranger.... >> >> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Dawson Church> >wrote: >> >> 74 Lotus Elite >>> 76 Lotus Eclat Sprint >>> 79 Triumph Spitfire >>> 81 Rolls Royce Silver Spirit >>> 74 Jensen Healey >>> >>> I don't know if we're adding our non British cars.... >>> >>> 81 Fiat Spyder >>> 84 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible >>> >>> And for one that actually STARTS EVERY TIME, and RUNS PERFECTLY ALWAYS >>> (gasp).... >>> >>> a 2010 Honda Crosstour! >>> >>> Dawson >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:08 AM, wrote: >>> >>> Mark Jansen >>>> 69 XKE Roadster 6 or 7 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dawson >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mitch.utsey at gmail.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/sonomashoe at gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net______________ _________________________________ >_ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/krisk1 at yahoo.com From bluesson at hotmail.com Wed Feb 2 19:17:39 2011 From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 18:17:39 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: <4D49CA5E.1000502@gmail.com> References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com>, , , <4D49CA5E.1000502@gmail.com> Message-ID: We need to stop this madness now or I swear I will list my Hot Wheels collection!! Tom R > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 13:19:26 -0800 > From: sonomashoe at gmail.com > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list > > Hey If we're listing non British rides now..Plz add: > '56 Chevy 210 modified > '61 Caddy Camper (one of the first RV's) > - Bill Shoemaker...already listed my 2 Jags > > On 2/2/2011 1:02 PM, Mitch Utsey wrote: > > Add a 1984 Eldorado to my list. I don't figure anybody'd care about my POS > > Ford Ranger.... > > > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Dawson Churchwrote: > > > >> 74 Lotus Elite > >> 76 Lotus Eclat Sprint > >> 79 Triumph Spitfire > >> 81 Rolls Royce Silver Spirit > >> 74 Jensen Healey > >> > >> I don't know if we're adding our non British cars.... > >> > >> 81 Fiat Spyder > >> 84 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible > >> > >> And for one that actually STARTS EVERY TIME, and RUNS PERFECTLY ALWAYS > >> (gasp).... > >> > >> a 2010 Honda Crosstour! > >> > >> Dawson > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:08 AM, wrote: > >> > >>> Mark Jansen > >>> 69 XKE Roadster 6 or 7 > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Dawson > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Nobbc at autox.team.net > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mitch.utsey at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/sonomashoe at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/bluesson at hotmail.com From don at napanet.net Wed Feb 2 19:44:57 2011 From: don at napanet.net (Don) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 18:44:57 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? In-Reply-To: <002701cbc342$e41c2a20$ac547e60$@com> References: <20110203011905.2D57C187871@autox.team.net> <002701cbc342$e41c2a20$ac547e60$@com> Message-ID: <20110203024516.5643BAE732@mail.dsl.napanet.net> Regarding Rimmer Brothers, I second that nomination. I had a TR8 with a terrible driveline vibration. I had replaced transmission mounts and some other pieces to no avail. So, Rimmer Bros. was having a sale on driveshafts among other things. The exchange rate was quite favorable at the time. So, I orders one. These driveshafts have strange CV joints on either end, and cannot be repaired. Anyway, within about five days, the driveshaft is delivered from England. I open the box, only to find that it is a used part. I called them up and asked what the deal was, and they apologized and said, "Keep the driveshaft, and you don't have to pay for it." I installed it on my TR8, and the vibration disappeared. I would definitely recommend Rimmer Brothers. Don Scott Calistoga 1966 TR4A 1962 MGA Mk 2 1973 MGB GT (selling) 1963-7 MGB (seeking) Misc. Japanese cars At 05:37 PM 2/2/2011, John Kenner wrote: >Gerry, > >the absolute best is Rimmer Bros. in the UK. >They have what you need and if you are organized >and get it all at once shipping is bearable. Plus you >don't have to pay V.A.T. > >JOHN KENNER > >510 231 6803 P >415 806 2457 C >510 231 6805 F > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On >Behalf Of gtwincams at gmail.com >Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:10 PM >To: North Bay British Car Club >Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? > >Gerry, >The Roadster Factory has high quality parts and rotating specials. Shipping >is a bit pricey but that goes on special too. TRF has lots of parts made to >spec and buys in the best, and support TR4s well. Moss is a mixed bag, some >excellent parts and some not as good, but prices can be steep. Victoria >British can be very economical and stocks lots of parts, but some not the >finest quality. Service of all three is good in my experience. British Parts >Northwest is a smaller operation but the have good quality parts for the >most part, good prices and service. >Many parts are all made in India or Asia, so it doesn't matter where you buy >those, but if there is a UK or US part, they usually fit and look better and >last longer. >Some are NLA, so NOS or NORS are the only options. >Many other options, but these are big, more local, and easy. >Cheers, >Greg Tatarian >------Original Message------ >From: G. Mugele >Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >To: North Bay British Car Club >ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club >Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? >Sent: Feb 2, 2011 12:54 PM > >Hi, > >Looking for advice here. I'm going to be spending a truck load of >money... well, a TR4 trunk load anyway, on parts very shortly. I've >been dealing with Moss and have no complaints about the quality but >the prices do seem out of whack at times. In the past I've dealt with >Victoria (whatever they call it) in the midwest somewhere and also was >reasonably satisfied with them. > >But I have been surprised to find that TR4As are more difficult to >find parts for than Land Rovers of the same vintage. Does anyone here >have any thoughts on these or any other purveyors? I'm open to >recommendations and personal testimonials. Thanks for any insight you >can provide. > >Gerry > > >G. Mugele >mewgull at mugele.net > >*** The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism. -- Sir >William Osler From andypreston at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 2 19:55:14 2011 From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (Andy Preston) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 18:55:14 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Jordans Auto Parts In-Reply-To: <20110202230436.E6C0FAE6B9@mail.dsl.napanet.net> References: <20110202230436.E6C0FAE6B9@mail.dsl.napanet.net> Message-ID: <956BBB5A7A294691B27231B0015E32A3@Bonusroom> Jordan's still has MG parts, I bought some new brake shoes from him last week and they were Beck Arnley and not some Chinese stuff that Moss sells. And they were cheaper than Moss's Chinese ones. Great service as well. Not open Sunday. Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 3:05 PM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: [Nobbc] Jordans Auto Parts By the way, Ron Jordan just retired from his parts business. He's a nice guy and always was willing to go the extra mile (or kilometre). The store will go on, but with a new owner. I can remember back when there were two competing import parts stores on Santa Rosa Avenue, Metric and Imparts (I think that was the name). That was in the late '60s, early '70s. On a Saturday morning waiting for the doors to open, there would be a line of customers waiting to get MG and VW parts! My, how the world has changed. At 01:59 PM 2/2/2011, G. Mugele wrote: >Thanks Michael, it does indeed help. I completely forgot about >Jordan's. However the parts I'm looking for are not the consumable >kind for the most part. I need a new temp-gauge (electric) and a >Voltmeter. (I'm going to have more faith in that than the Ammeter >since I have an alternator on mine.) Other stuff needed (so far) >wiper switch, choke cable, air duct panels for the radiator, maybe a >new wiper motor, etc. Oh... and who locally would be the favorite >choice for replacing the windshield (further away on the calendar but >needed). I have used empire glass in the past but on modern stuff. > >And to be more specific: Does anyone have any experience at all with >www.englishparts.com >? They seem to have some stuff at remarkable prices. > >Thanks again, >Gerry _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/andypreston at sbcglobal.net From hawkview at sonic.net Wed Feb 2 20:04:45 2011 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 19:04:45 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com>, , , <4D49CA5E.1000502@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6636366C048C498C91F8C0443C5980C0@williamsonPC> As long as they are British. LOL -----Original Message----- From: Tom Reier Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 6:17 PM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list We need to stop this madness now or I swear I will list my Hot Wheels collection!! Tom R > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 13:19:26 -0800 > From: sonomashoe at gmail.com > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list > > Hey If we're listing non British rides now..Plz add: > '56 Chevy 210 modified > '61 Caddy Camper (one of the first RV's) > - Bill Shoemaker...already listed my 2 Jags > > On 2/2/2011 1:02 PM, Mitch Utsey wrote: > > Add a 1984 Eldorado to my list. I don't figure anybody'd care about my POS > > Ford Ranger.... > > > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Dawson Churchwrote: > > > >> 74 Lotus Elite > >> 76 Lotus Eclat Sprint > >> 79 Triumph Spitfire > >> 81 Rolls Royce Silver Spirit > >> 74 Jensen Healey > >> > >> I don't know if we're adding our non British cars.... > >> > >> 81 Fiat Spyder > >> 84 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible > >> > >> And for one that actually STARTS EVERY TIME, and RUNS PERFECTLY ALWAYS > >> (gasp).... > >> > >> a 2010 Honda Crosstour! > >> > >> Dawson > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:08 AM, wrote: > >> > >>> Mark Jansen > >>> 69 XKE Roadster 6 or 7 > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Dawson > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Nobbc at autox.team.net > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mitch.utsey at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/sonomashoe at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/bluesson at hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From hawkview at sonic.net Wed Feb 2 20:05:33 2011 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 19:05:33 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: <266930.33073.qm@web81906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com><4D49CA5E.1000502@gmail.com> <266930.33073.qm@web81906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <474343BA91FB4AC8866568829924951E@williamsonPC> Nobody is to late. You are in. -----Original Message----- From: Kris Klein Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:59 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list Am I too late? Austin Healey '59 3000 BT7 ________________________________ From: Norman S. Weinfeld To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 5:45:01 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list Would enjoy receiving a copy of the list at norman.weinfeld at gmail.com. Thanks in advance. '55 XK140 DHC On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson < hawkview at sonic.net> wrote: > OK kids. This isn't a competition to see who has the most cars. > I have conceded to Minis, but like I said, it must have something British > in it's chromosome structure, and I don't mean BP oil or gas. So Dawson's, > FIX IT AGAIN TONY, Fiat and Caddy didn't get in. Let's try to keep this as > British as possible. > We are up to 78 cars now so again if anybody wants a copy I will forward > it to your email. Just ask. I might print out a batch as well for the next > ride. > > -----Original Message----- From: William Shoemaker > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 1:19 PM > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list > > Hey If we're listing non British rides now..Plz add: > '56 Chevy 210 modified > '61 Caddy Camper (one of the first RV's) > - Bill Shoemaker...already listed my 2 Jags > > On 2/2/2011 1:02 PM, Mitch Utsey wrote: > >> Add a 1984 Eldorado to my list. I don't figure anybody'd care about my POS >> Ford Ranger.... >> >> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Dawson Church> >wrote: >> >> 74 Lotus Elite >>> 76 Lotus Eclat Sprint >>> 79 Triumph Spitfire >>> 81 Rolls Royce Silver Spirit >>> 74 Jensen Healey >>> >>> I don't know if we're adding our non British cars.... >>> >>> 81 Fiat Spyder >>> 84 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible >>> >>> And for one that actually STARTS EVERY TIME, and RUNS PERFECTLY ALWAYS >>> (gasp).... >>> >>> a 2010 Honda Crosstour! >>> >>> Dawson >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:08 AM, wrote: >>> >>> Mark Jansen >>>> 69 XKE Roadster 6 or 7 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dawson >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mitch.utsey at gmail.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/sonomashoe at gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net______________ _________________________________ >_ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/krisk1 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From jkenner at tamcab.com Wed Feb 2 20:06:36 2011 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 19:06:36 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] RIMMER BROTHERS In-Reply-To: <20110203024516.5643BAE732@mail.dsl.napanet.net> References: <20110203011905.2D57C187871@autox.team.net> <002701cbc342$e41c2a20$ac547e60$@com> <20110203024516.5643BAE732@mail.dsl.napanet.net> Message-ID: <003d01cbc34f$5fbd1110$1f373330$@com> I bought a complete surrey top for my tr250 from them. At a pretty penny. When I finally put it together it was one week short of the 1 year guarantee they supplied. Well the top was molded differently than the back window and didn't fit at all right. I contacted them and sent them pictures and they had the manufacturer make me a correct one and shipped it for free. I should also mention if anyone is interested that I have a complete surrey top for sale that will fit a tr4 or tr250 or early tr6. JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 6:45 PM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? Regarding Rimmer Brothers, I second that nomination. I had a TR8 with a terrible driveline vibration. I had replaced transmission mounts and some other pieces to no avail. So, Rimmer Bros. was having a sale on driveshafts among other things. The exchange rate was quite favorable at the time. So, I orders one. These driveshafts have strange CV joints on either end, and cannot be repaired. Anyway, within about five days, the driveshaft is delivered from England. I open the box, only to find that it is a used part. I called them up and asked what the deal was, and they apologized and said, "Keep the driveshaft, and you don't have to pay for it." I installed it on my TR8, and the vibration disappeared. I would definitely recommend Rimmer Brothers. Don Scott Calistoga 1966 TR4A 1962 MGA Mk 2 1973 MGB GT (selling) 1963-7 MGB (seeking) Misc. Japanese cars At 05:37 PM 2/2/2011, John Kenner wrote: >Gerry, > >the absolute best is Rimmer Bros. in the UK. >They have what you need and if you are organized >and get it all at once shipping is bearable. Plus you >don't have to pay V.A.T. > >JOHN KENNER > >510 231 6803 P >415 806 2457 C >510 231 6805 F > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On >Behalf Of gtwincams at gmail.com >Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:10 PM >To: North Bay British Car Club >Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? > >Gerry, >The Roadster Factory has high quality parts and rotating specials. Shipping >is a bit pricey but that goes on special too. TRF has lots of parts made to >spec and buys in the best, and support TR4s well. Moss is a mixed bag, some >excellent parts and some not as good, but prices can be steep. Victoria >British can be very economical and stocks lots of parts, but some not the >finest quality. Service of all three is good in my experience. British Parts >Northwest is a smaller operation but the have good quality parts for the >most part, good prices and service. >Many parts are all made in India or Asia, so it doesn't matter where you buy >those, but if there is a UK or US part, they usually fit and look better and >last longer. >Some are NLA, so NOS or NORS are the only options. >Many other options, but these are big, more local, and easy. >Cheers, >Greg Tatarian >------Original Message------ >From: G. Mugele >Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >To: North Bay British Car Club >ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club >Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? >Sent: Feb 2, 2011 12:54 PM > >Hi, > >Looking for advice here. I'm going to be spending a truck load of >money... well, a TR4 trunk load anyway, on parts very shortly. I've >been dealing with Moss and have no complaints about the quality but >the prices do seem out of whack at times. In the past I've dealt with >Victoria (whatever they call it) in the midwest somewhere and also was >reasonably satisfied with them. > >But I have been surprised to find that TR4As are more difficult to >find parts for than Land Rovers of the same vintage. Does anyone here >have any thoughts on these or any other purveyors? I'm open to >recommendations and personal testimonials. Thanks for any insight you >can provide. > >Gerry > > >G. Mugele >mewgull at mugele.net > >*** The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism. -- Sir >William Osler _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jkenner at tamcab.com From mvg1 at att.net Wed Feb 2 20:12:09 2011 From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 19:12:09 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] car list References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com><4D49CA5E.1000502@gmail.com> Message-ID: I wouldn't mind having a copy, pleaqse send to mvg1 at att.net when complete. Thanks Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list > OK kids. This isn't a competition to see who has the most cars. > I have conceded to Minis, but like I said, it must have something British > in it's chromosome structure, and I don't mean BP oil or gas. So > Dawson's, FIX IT AGAIN TONY, Fiat and Caddy didn't get in. Let's try to > keep this as British as possible. > We are up to 78 cars now so again if anybody wants a copy I will forward > it to your email. Just ask. I might print out a batch as well for the > next ride. > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Shoemaker > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 1:19 PM > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list > > Hey If we're listing non British rides now..Plz add: > '56 Chevy 210 modified > '61 Caddy Camper (one of the first RV's) > - Bill Shoemaker...already listed my 2 Jags > > On 2/2/2011 1:02 PM, Mitch Utsey wrote: >> Add a 1984 Eldorado to my list. I don't figure anybody'd care about my >> POS >> Ford Ranger.... >> >> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Dawson >> Churchwrote: >> >>> 74 Lotus Elite >>> 76 Lotus Eclat Sprint >>> 79 Triumph Spitfire >>> 81 Rolls Royce Silver Spirit >>> 74 Jensen Healey >>> >>> I don't know if we're adding our non British cars.... >>> >>> 81 Fiat Spyder >>> 84 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible >>> >>> And for one that actually STARTS EVERY TIME, and RUNS PERFECTLY ALWAYS >>> (gasp).... >>> >>> a 2010 Honda Crosstour! >>> >>> Dawson >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:08 AM, wrote: >>> >>>> Mark Jansen >>>> 69 XKE Roadster 6 or 7 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dawson >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mitch.utsey at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/sonomashoe at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at att.net From aceca289 at aol.com Wed Feb 2 21:36:45 2011 From: aceca289 at aol.com (aceca289 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:36:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: <300033.19886.qm@web180010.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <300033.19886.qm@web180010.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CD917318732485-AD8-742F@webmail-d084.sysops.aol.com> 1955 AC Aceca - with a 1963 conversion to a Ford 289 hipo John Thompson -----Original Message----- From: Greg Badano To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Sun, Jan 30, 2011 12:47 pm Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list 1959 AC Aceca - condition 8 reg Badano ______________________________________________ obbc at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $11.47 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/aceca289 at aol.com From mowog at sonic.net Wed Feb 2 22:15:23 2011 From: mowog at sonic.net (Rod Williams) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:15:23 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? In-Reply-To: <20110203011904.8280218788D@autox.team.net> References: <20110203011904.8280218788D@autox.team.net> Message-ID: On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:09 PM, gtwincams at gmail.com wrote: > The Roadster Factory has high quality parts and rotating specials I, too, have been very happy with the parts, price, and customer service from The Roadster Factory. I've been getting occasional bits for my MGB but they are mainly a Triumph supplier. Great catalogs. If you get on their email list, they have rotating sales every week. -- Rod Williams Petaluma, California 1967 MGB From tsthresh at hotmail.com Thu Feb 3 00:36:26 2011 From: tsthresh at hotmail.com (BBTim THRESH) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:36:26 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com>, Message-ID: Hi all from a 4 week trip in England. I have been amazed at the 300+ emails going around from you all. So many I deleted most unread... we have to find a more efficient way of communicating or I for one will miss the few important ones about rides. Mine is a 1958 MGA (several modificaitons to make it start, run, brake, cool and ride better than original) Hope we can make a meet for the MG even at Infineon in April. Tim Thresh > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 10:42:34 -1000 > From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list > > 74 Lotus Elite > 76 Lotus Eclat Sprint > 79 Triumph Spitfire > 81 Rolls Royce Silver Spirit > 74 Jensen Healey > > I don't know if we're adding our non British cars.... > > 81 Fiat Spyder > 84 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible > > And for one that actually STARTS EVERY TIME, and RUNS PERFECTLY ALWAYS > (gasp).... > > a 2010 Honda Crosstour! > > Dawson > > > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:08 AM, wrote: > > > Mark Jansen > > 69 XKE Roadster 6 or 7 > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > > > > > > -- > Dawson > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/tsthresh at hotmail.com From gtwincams at gmail.com Thu Feb 3 07:59:51 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 06:59:51 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Efficient communications - staying on topic In-Reply-To: References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com>, Message-ID: <4D4AC2E7.5010201@gmail.com> Tim's comment supports Ron's request that we stay on topic within a thread or start a new one. Besides being able to search archives efficiently, it also gives those who want to communicate to the group the freedom to do so without feeling like they are only allowed to talk about the next drive. I was the lead instigator of starting an email list for members, and Ron, who had also been thinking about this for some time, arranged with the Autox group owner to allow us to use their system (thanks go to Ron and to Mark). Part of having an interactive email list is being able to discuss all relevant issues of interest to members of the North Bay British Car Club. As one who has been an active part of the recent emails, I accept responsibility for my part in letting threads get off-track, or talking about one subject more than some folks want to read about. Keeping our subject lines consistent with a particular discussion (e.g. no highjacking someone's thread, using separate subject lines for different subjects), will allow those who are uninterested in a particular subject or have read enough about it to delete those threads without fear they are missing out on something important or interesting to them. It will also reduce the burden on the AutoX server system, as will deleting original text whenever possible from the email(s) to which you are replying. I've never seen any important emails about upcoming drives posted using a previous thread or confusing subject line, or combined with another topic, so it's unlikely you'll miss a notice of a drive. Those who aren't interested in a topic or tire of it, can simply delete emails with that subject line and not lose sleep. But if we've had members drop off the list because of the recent volume, we might want to tighten up our email communication on this list so we don't lose any more, but at the same time, not stifle those who want to communicate about something relevant to the focus of this club. Thanks, Greg Tatarian On 2/2/2011 11:36 PM, BBTim THRESH wrote: > Hi all from a 4 week trip in England. I have been amazed at the 300+ emails > going around from you all. So many I deleted most unread... we have to find a > more efficient way of communicating or I for one will miss the few important > ones about rides. > > Mine is a 1958 MGA (several modificaitons to make it start, run, brake, cool > and ride better than original) > > Hope we can make a meet for the MG even at Infineon in April. > > Tim Thresh From dan at drummondlaw.com Thu Feb 3 09:18:04 2011 From: dan at drummondlaw.com (Daniel Drummond) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 08:18:04 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Efficient communications - staying on topic In-Reply-To: <4D4AC2E7.5010201@gmail.com> References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com>, <4D4AC2E7.5010201@gmail.com> Message-ID: <330273E240CBAD4C97740ACE683BED1E08D6858233@VA3DIAXVS181.RED001.local> Point well made. I will add that contrary to Greg's experience, I have overlooked information about upcoming rides when the thread becomes bogged down with lots of other topics. We were talking about this a few weeks ago on one of the rides. The subject line may say something about an upcoming ride, but the actual subject matter may be about a Spitfire transmission available on eBay. Coupled with the fact that my iPhone (and I suspect the same is true of other smartphones) compiles e-mails by threads first and dates second, I have several times opened up the Upcoming Ride thread hoping to find out if we're going out this weekend, or if there's been a location change, or whatever, but found instead a link to an eBay site. It seems all we have to do is change the subject line when we want to post on a new topic. My two cents worth. Dan -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Tatarian Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:00 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Efficient communications - staying on topic Tim's comment supports Ron's request that we stay on topic within a thread or start a new one. Besides being able to search archives efficiently, it also gives those who want to communicate to the group the freedom to do so without feeling like they are only allowed to talk about the next drive. I was the lead instigator of starting an email list for members, and Ron, who had also been thinking about this for some time, arranged with the Autox group owner to allow us to use their system (thanks go to Ron and to Mark). Part of having an interactive email list is being able to discuss all relevant issues of interest to members of the North Bay British Car Club. As one who has been an active part of the recent emails, I accept responsibility for my part in letting threads get off-track, or talking about one subject more than some folks want to read about. Keeping our subject lines consistent with a particular discussion (e.g. no highjacking someone's thread, using separate subject lines for different subjects), will allow those who are uninterested in a particular subject or have read enough about it to delete those threads without fear they are missing out on something important or interesting to them. It will also reduce the burden on the AutoX server system, as will deleting original text whenever possible from the email(s) to which you are replying. I've never seen any important emails about upcoming drives posted using a previous thread or confusing subject line, or combined with another topic, so it's unlikely you'll miss a notice of a drive. Those who aren't interested in a topic or tire of it, can simply delete emails with that subject line and not lose sleep. But if we've had members drop off the list because of the recent volume, we might want to tighten up our email communication on this list so we don't lose any more, but at the same time, not stifle those who want to communicate about something relevant to the focus of this club. Thanks, Greg Tatarian On 2/2/2011 11:36 PM, BBTim THRESH wrote: > Hi all from a 4 week trip in England. I have been amazed at the 300+ emails > going around from you all. So many I deleted most unread... we have to find a > more efficient way of communicating or I for one will miss the few important > ones about rides. > > Mine is a 1958 MGA (several modificaitons to make it start, run, brake, cool > and ride better than original) > > Hope we can make a meet for the MG even at Infineon in April. > > Tim Thresh _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dan at drummondlaw.com From gonzosaurs at comcast.net Thu Feb 3 10:04:40 2011 From: gonzosaurs at comcast.net (gonzosaurs at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 17:04:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Nobbc] RIMMER BROTHERS In-Reply-To: <003d01cbc34f$5fbd1110$1f373330$@com> Message-ID: <909302424.329701.1296752680826.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Hi, I am interested. What would the price be for the top? dan, tr-250 tr6 73 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kenner" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2011 7:06:36 PM Subject: [Nobbc] RIMMER BROTHERS I bought a complete surrey top for my tr250 from them. At a pretty penny. When I finally put it together it was one week short of the 1 year guarantee they supplied. Well the top was molded differently than the back window and didn't fit at all right. I contacted them and sent them pictures and they had the manufacturer make me a correct one and shipped it for free. I should also mention if anyone is interested that I have a complete surrey top for sale that will fit a tr4 or tr250 or early tr6. JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 6:45 PM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? Regarding Rimmer Brothers, I second that nomination. I had a TR8 with a terrible driveline vibration. I had replaced transmission mounts and some other pieces to no avail. So, Rimmer Bros. was having a sale on driveshafts among other things. The exchange rate was quite favorable at the time. So, I orders one. These driveshafts have strange CV joints on either end, and cannot be repaired. Anyway, within about five days, the driveshaft is delivered from England. I open the box, only to find that it is a used part. I called them up and asked what the deal was, and they apologized and said, "Keep the driveshaft, and you don't have to pay for it." I installed it on my TR8, and the vibration disappeared. I would definitely recommend Rimmer Brothers. Don Scott Calistoga 1966 TR4A 1962 MGA Mk 2 1973 MGB GT (selling) 1963-7 MGB (seeking) Misc. Japanese cars At 05:37 PM 2/2/2011, John Kenner wrote: >Gerry, > >the absolute best is Rimmer Bros. in the UK. >They have what you need and if you are organized >and get it all at once shipping is bearable. Plus you >don't have to pay V.A.T. > >JOHN KENNER > >510 231 6803 P >415 806 2457 C >510 231 6805 F > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On >Behalf Of gtwincams at gmail.com >Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:10 PM >To: North Bay British Car Club >Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? > >Gerry, >The Roadster Factory has high quality parts and rotating specials. Shipping >is a bit pricey but that goes on special too. TRF has lots of parts made to >spec and buys in the best, and support TR4s well. Moss is a mixed bag, some >excellent parts and some not as good, but prices can be steep. Victoria >British can be very economical and stocks lots of parts, but some not the >finest quality. Service of all three is good in my experience. British Parts >Northwest is a smaller operation but the have good quality parts for the >most part, good prices and service. >Many parts are all made in India or Asia, so it doesn't matter where you buy >those, but if there is a UK or US part, they usually fit and look better and >last longer. >Some are NLA, so NOS or NORS are the only options. >Many other options, but these are big, more local, and easy. >Cheers, >Greg Tatarian >------Original Message------ >From: G. Mugele >Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >To: North Bay British Car Club >ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club >Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? >Sent: Feb 2, 2011 12:54 PM > >Hi, > >Looking for advice here. I'm going to be spending a truck load of >money... well, a TR4 trunk load anyway, on parts very shortly. I've >been dealing with Moss and have no complaints about the quality but >the prices do seem out of whack at times. In the past I've dealt with >Victoria (whatever they call it) in the midwest somewhere and also was >reasonably satisfied with them. > >But I have been surprised to find that TR4As are more difficult to >find parts for than Land Rovers of the same vintage. Does anyone here >have any thoughts on these or any other purveyors? I'm open to >recommendations and personal testimonials. Thanks for any insight you >can provide. > >Gerry > > >G. Mugele >mewgull at mugele.net > >*** The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism. -- Sir >William Osler _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jkenner at tamcab.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/gonzosaurs at comcast.net From jkenner at tamcab.com Thu Feb 3 10:12:53 2011 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 09:12:53 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] SURREY TOP In-Reply-To: <909302424.329701.1296752680826.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <003d01cbc34f$5fbd1110$1f373330$@com> <909302424.329701.1296752680826.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <002e01cbc3c5$99b83130$cd289390$@com> DAN, I'D LIKE TO GET $1000 FOR IT. IT'S NOT ABSOLUTELY PERFECT CALL ME AT THE 415 NUMBER BELOW TO DISCUSS, THANKS JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of gonzosaurs at comcast.net Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:05 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] RIMMER BROTHERS Hi, I am interested. What would the price be for the top? dan, tr-250 tr6 73 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kenner" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2011 7:06:36 PM Subject: [Nobbc] RIMMER BROTHERS I bought a complete surrey top for my tr250 from them. At a pretty penny. When I finally put it together it was one week short of the 1 year guarantee they supplied. Well the top was molded differently than the back window and didn't fit at all right. I contacted them and sent them pictures and they had the manufacturer make me a correct one and shipped it for free. I should also mention if anyone is interested that I have a complete surrey top for sale that will fit a tr4 or tr250 or early tr6. JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 6:45 PM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? Regarding Rimmer Brothers, I second that nomination. I had a TR8 with a terrible driveline vibration. I had replaced transmission mounts and some other pieces to no avail. So, Rimmer Bros. was having a sale on driveshafts among other things. The exchange rate was quite favorable at the time. So, I orders one. These driveshafts have strange CV joints on either end, and cannot be repaired. Anyway, within about five days, the driveshaft is delivered from England. I open the box, only to find that it is a used part. I called them up and asked what the deal was, and they apologized and said, "Keep the driveshaft, and you don't have to pay for it." I installed it on my TR8, and the vibration disappeared. I would definitely recommend Rimmer Brothers. Don Scott Calistoga 1966 TR4A 1962 MGA Mk 2 1973 MGB GT (selling) 1963-7 MGB (seeking) Misc. Japanese cars At 05:37 PM 2/2/2011, John Kenner wrote: >Gerry, > >the absolute best is Rimmer Bros. in the UK. >They have what you need and if you are organized >and get it all at once shipping is bearable. Plus you >don't have to pay V.A.T. > >JOHN KENNER > >510 231 6803 P >415 806 2457 C >510 231 6805 F > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On >Behalf Of gtwincams at gmail.com >Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:10 PM >To: North Bay British Car Club >Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? > >Gerry, >The Roadster Factory has high quality parts and rotating specials. Shipping >is a bit pricey but that goes on special too. TRF has lots of parts made to >spec and buys in the best, and support TR4s well. Moss is a mixed bag, some >excellent parts and some not as good, but prices can be steep. Victoria >British can be very economical and stocks lots of parts, but some not the >finest quality. Service of all three is good in my experience. British Parts >Northwest is a smaller operation but the have good quality parts for the >most part, good prices and service. >Many parts are all made in India or Asia, so it doesn't matter where you buy >those, but if there is a UK or US part, they usually fit and look better and >last longer. >Some are NLA, so NOS or NORS are the only options. >Many other options, but these are big, more local, and easy. >Cheers, >Greg Tatarian >------Original Message------ >From: G. Mugele >Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >To: North Bay British Car Club >ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club >Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? >Sent: Feb 2, 2011 12:54 PM > >Hi, > >Looking for advice here. I'm going to be spending a truck load of >money... well, a TR4 trunk load anyway, on parts very shortly. I've >been dealing with Moss and have no complaints about the quality but >the prices do seem out of whack at times. In the past I've dealt with >Victoria (whatever they call it) in the midwest somewhere and also was >reasonably satisfied with them. > >But I have been surprised to find that TR4As are more difficult to >find parts for than Land Rovers of the same vintage. Does anyone here >have any thoughts on these or any other purveyors? I'm open to >recommendations and personal testimonials. Thanks for any insight you >can provide. > >Gerry > > >G. Mugele >mewgull at mugele.net > >*** The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism. -- Sir >William Osler _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jkenner at tamcab.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/gonzosaurs at comcast.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jkenner at tamcab.com From jinger at pacbell.net Thu Feb 3 11:37:29 2011 From: jinger at pacbell.net (Alan and Paula Spencer) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:37:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com> <4D49CA5E.1000502@gmail.com> Message-ID: <321594.61277.qm@web80404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'd like to see a "final" copy of the list, too. Thanks! Alan Spencer Wheels www.wheels-cars-for-film.com ________________________________ From: Norman S. Weinfeld To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 5:45:01 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list Would enjoy receiving a copy of the list at norman.weinfeld at gmail.com. Thanks in advance. '55 XK140 DHC On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson < hawkview at sonic.net> wrote: > OK kids. This isn't a competition to see who has the most cars. > I have conceded to Minis, but like I said, it must have something British > in it's chromosome structure, and I don't mean BP oil or gas. So Dawson's, > FIX IT AGAIN TONY, Fiat and Caddy didn't get in. Let's try to keep this as > British as possible. > We are up to 78 cars now so again if anybody wants a copy I will forward > it to your email. Just ask. I might print out a batch as well for the next > ride. > > -----Original Message----- From: William Shoemaker > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 1:19 PM > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list > > Hey If we're listing non British rides now..Plz add: > '56 Chevy 210 modified > '61 Caddy Camper (one of the first RV's) > - Bill Shoemaker...already listed my 2 Jags > > On 2/2/2011 1:02 PM, Mitch Utsey wrote: > >> Add a 1984 Eldorado to my list. I don't figure anybody'd care about my POS >> Ford Ranger.... >> >> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Dawson Church> >wrote: >> >> 74 Lotus Elite >>> 76 Lotus Eclat Sprint >>> 79 Triumph Spitfire >>> 81 Rolls Royce Silver Spirit >>> 74 Jensen Healey >>> >>> I don't know if we're adding our non British cars.... >>> >>> 81 Fiat Spyder >>> 84 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible >>> >>> And for one that actually STARTS EVERY TIME, and RUNS PERFECTLY ALWAYS >>> (gasp).... >>> >>> a 2010 Honda Crosstour! >>> >>> Dawson >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:08 AM, wrote: >>> >>> Mark Jansen >>>> 69 XKE Roadster 6 or 7 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dawson >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mitch.utsey at gmail.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/sonomashoe at gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net______________ _________________________________ >_ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jinger at pacbell.net From wbain at sonic.net Thu Feb 3 12:38:19 2011 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 11:38:19 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? In-Reply-To: <20110203011903.C1AC6187872@autox.team.net> References: <20110203011903.C1AC6187872@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Gerry, When I had TR's, I had excellent parts and service from The Roadster Factory. Also had good results from Victoria British, but that was mostly for my lady friend's Spitfire. Cheers, Wendell On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:09 PM, gtwincams at gmail.com wrote: > Gerry, > The Roadster Factory has high quality parts and rotating specials. > Shipping is a bit pricey but that goes on special too. TRF has lots > of parts made to spec and buys in the best, and support TR4s well. > Moss is a mixed bag, some excellent parts and some not as good, but > prices can be steep. Victoria British can be very economical and > stocks lots of parts, but some not the finest quality. Service of > all three is good in my experience. British Parts Northwest is a > smaller operation but the have good quality parts for the most > part, good prices and service. > Many parts are all made in India or Asia, so it doesn't matter > where you buy those, but if there is a UK or US part, they usually > fit and look better and last longer. > Some are NLA, so NOS or NORS are the only options. > Many other options, but these are big, more local, and easy. > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > ------Original Message------ > From: G. Mugele > Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > To: North Bay British Car Club > ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? > Sent: Feb 2, 2011 12:54 PM > > Hi, > > Looking for advice here. I'm going to be spending a truck load of > money... well, a TR4 trunk load anyway, on parts very shortly. I've > been dealing with Moss and have no complaints about the quality but > the prices do seem out of whack at times. In the past I've dealt with > Victoria (whatever they call it) in the midwest somewhere and also was > reasonably satisfied with them. > > But I have been surprised to find that TR4As are more difficult to > find parts for than Land Rovers of the same vintage. Does anyone here > have any thoughts on these or any other purveyors? I'm open to > recommendations and personal testimonials. Thanks for any insight you > can provide. > > Gerry > > > G. Mugele > mewgull at mugele.net > > *** The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism.  -- Sir > William Osler > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ > gtwincams at gmail.com > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ > wbain at sonic.net From wbain at sonic.net Thu Feb 3 12:51:37 2011 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 11:51:37 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com>, Message-ID: <9BA999E5-AE0B-465A-AD75-42915E606EA1@sonic.net> Hi all, Tim does have a good point. As an example when I was a member of Fiat America, I would open my email and find 160 emails. Mostly from that website and very few regarding the 124 Spider I have. This would be in a 24 hour period. It does take time to go through them and delete those without relevance. Perhaps we could flag, in some way, emails that pertain to ride announcements. Wendell On Feb 2, 2011, at 11:36 PM, BBTim THRESH wrote: > Hi all from a 4 week trip in England. I have been amazed at the 300 > + emails > going around from you all. So many I deleted most unread... we have > to find a > more efficient way of communicating or I for one will miss the few > important > ones about rides. > > Mine is a 1958 MGA (several modificaitons to make it start, run, > brake, cool > and ride better than original) > > Hope we can make a meet for the MG even at Infineon in April. > > Tim Thresh >> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 10:42:34 -1000 >> From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com >> To: nobbc at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list >> >> 74 Lotus Elite >> 76 Lotus Eclat Sprint >> 79 Triumph Spitfire >> 81 Rolls Royce Silver Spirit >> 74 Jensen Healey >> >> I don't know if we're adding our non British cars.... >> >> 81 Fiat Spyder >> 84 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible >> >> And for one that actually STARTS EVERY TIME, and RUNS PERFECTLY >> ALWAYS >> (gasp).... >> >> a 2010 Honda Crosstour! >> >> Dawson >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:08 AM, wrote: >> >>> Mark Jansen >>> 69 XKE Roadster 6 or 7 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Dawson >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/tsthresh at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ > wbain at sonic.net From lgardini at sbcglobal.net Thu Feb 3 13:39:12 2011 From: lgardini at sbcglobal.net (Larry Gardini) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:39:12 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If you are going to hot rod the motor you may want to take a look at British Frame and Engine. Larry Gardini -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of G. Mugele Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 12:55 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Parts is parts, right? Hi, Looking for advice here. I'm going to be spending a truck load of money... well, a TR4 trunk load anyway, on parts very shortly. I've been dealing with Moss and have no complaints about the quality but the prices do seem out of whack at times. In the past I've dealt with Victoria (whatever they call it) in the midwest somewhere and also was reasonably satisfied with them. But I have been surprised to find that TR4As are more difficult to find parts for than Land Rovers of the same vintage. Does anyone here have any thoughts on these or any other purveyors? I'm open to recommendations and personal testimonials. Thanks for any insight you can provide. Gerry G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism.  -- Sir William Osler _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/lgardini at sbcglobal.net From michael at dcspg.com Thu Feb 3 14:59:39 2011 From: michael at dcspg.com (michael vogel) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:59:39 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: <321594.61277.qm@web80404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com> <4D49CA5E.1000502@gmail.com> <321594.61277.qm@web80404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <018301cbc3ed$ab448110$01cd8330$@com> 1960 Austin Copper 1962 Alfa Giulietta vintage race set up 1972 240z 1982 Alfa GTV6 Michael Vogel michael at dcspg.com -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan and Paula Spencer Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:37 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list I'd like to see a "final" copy of the list, too. Thanks! Alan Spencer Wheels www.wheels-cars-for-film.com ________________________________ From: Norman S. Weinfeld To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 5:45:01 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list Would enjoy receiving a copy of the list at norman.weinfeld at gmail.com. Thanks in advance. '55 XK140 DHC On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson < hawkview at sonic.net> wrote: > OK kids. This isn't a competition to see who has the most cars. > I have conceded to Minis, but like I said, it must have something British > in it's chromosome structure, and I don't mean BP oil or gas. So Dawson's, > FIX IT AGAIN TONY, Fiat and Caddy didn't get in. Let's try to keep this as > British as possible. > We are up to 78 cars now so again if anybody wants a copy I will forward > it to your email. Just ask. I might print out a batch as well for the next > ride. > > -----Original Message----- From: William Shoemaker > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 1:19 PM > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list > > Hey If we're listing non British rides now..Plz add: > '56 Chevy 210 modified > '61 Caddy Camper (one of the first RV's) > - Bill Shoemaker...already listed my 2 Jags > > On 2/2/2011 1:02 PM, Mitch Utsey wrote: > >> Add a 1984 Eldorado to my list. I don't figure anybody'd care about my POS >> Ford Ranger.... >> >> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Dawson Church> >wrote: >> >> 74 Lotus Elite >>> 76 Lotus Eclat Sprint >>> 79 Triumph Spitfire >>> 81 Rolls Royce Silver Spirit >>> 74 Jensen Healey >>> >>> I don't know if we're adding our non British cars.... >>> >>> 81 Fiat Spyder >>> 84 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible >>> >>> And for one that actually STARTS EVERY TIME, and RUNS PERFECTLY ALWAYS >>> (gasp).... >>> >>> a 2010 Honda Crosstour! >>> >>> Dawson >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:08 AM, wrote: >>> >>> Mark Jansen >>>> 69 XKE Roadster 6 or 7 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dawson >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mitch.utsey at gmail.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/sonomashoe at gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net_____________ _ _________________________________ >_ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jinger at pacbell.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/msvogel at sprynet.com From lgardini at sbcglobal.net Thu Feb 3 15:57:15 2011 From: lgardini at sbcglobal.net (Larry Gardini) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 14:57:15 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Vendor list "The Monster List " Message-ID: This is a great resource. Larry Gardini [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of vendors.url] From nobbc at sonic.net Thu Feb 3 17:17:07 2011 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:17:07 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Ride announcements In-Reply-To: <9BA999E5-AE0B-465A-AD75-42915E606EA1@sonic.net> References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com>, <9BA999E5-AE0B-465A-AD75-42915E606EA1@sonic.net> Message-ID: <4D4B4583.7010900@sonic.net> ***We*** already do this...ride announcements are always subjected as "Saturdays Ride" or something similar so there should be no confusion. This burst of list activity WILL slow down soon anyway. Dawson is leading the next ride and will, I'm sure, be posting details when we get nearer Valentines day. Ron 58 MGA wendell bain wrote: > Perhaps we could flag, in some way, emails that pertain to ride > announcements. > > Wendell From hawkview at sonic.net Thu Feb 3 18:01:09 2011 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 17:01:09 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: <321594.61277.qm@web80404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com><4D49CA5E.1000502@gmail.com> <321594.61277.qm@web80404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <618373D198434E2FA98480EA012422E9@williamsonPC> Hi Alan. Not problem. Not sure when the list will be final, and as new people join or add cars to their collection (or subtract), the list will change. I will probably have to send out a reminder every several months. Input has slowed considerably and I don't expect the flood that we had lately. Clif 74 Jensen Healey -----Original Message----- From: Alan and Paula Spencer Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:37 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list I'd like to see a "final" copy of the list, too. Thanks! Alan Spencer Wheels www.wheels-cars-for-film.com ________________________________ From: Norman S. Weinfeld To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 5:45:01 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list Would enjoy receiving a copy of the list at norman.weinfeld at gmail.com. Thanks in advance. '55 XK140 DHC On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson < hawkview at sonic.net> wrote: > OK kids. This isn't a competition to see who has the most cars. > I have conceded to Minis, but like I said, it must have something British > in it's chromosome structure, and I don't mean BP oil or gas. So Dawson's, > FIX IT AGAIN TONY, Fiat and Caddy didn't get in. Let's try to keep this as > British as possible. > We are up to 78 cars now so again if anybody wants a copy I will forward > it to your email. Just ask. I might print out a batch as well for the next > ride. > > -----Original Message----- From: William Shoemaker > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 1:19 PM > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list > > Hey If we're listing non British rides now..Plz add: > '56 Chevy 210 modified > '61 Caddy Camper (one of the first RV's) > - Bill Shoemaker...already listed my 2 Jags > > On 2/2/2011 1:02 PM, Mitch Utsey wrote: > >> Add a 1984 Eldorado to my list. I don't figure anybody'd care about my POS >> Ford Ranger.... >> >> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Dawson Church> >wrote: >> >> 74 Lotus Elite >>> 76 Lotus Eclat Sprint >>> 79 Triumph Spitfire >>> 81 Rolls Royce Silver Spirit >>> 74 Jensen Healey >>> >>> I don't know if we're adding our non British cars.... >>> >>> 81 Fiat Spyder >>> 84 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible >>> >>> And for one that actually STARTS EVERY TIME, and RUNS PERFECTLY ALWAYS >>> (gasp).... >>> >>> a 2010 Honda Crosstour! >>> >>> Dawson >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:08 AM, wrote: >>> >>> Mark Jansen >>>> 69 XKE Roadster 6 or 7 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dawson >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mitch.utsey at gmail.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/sonomashoe at gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net______________ _________________________________ >_ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jinger at pacbell.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From nobbc at sonic.net Thu Feb 3 18:43:27 2011 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:43:27 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: <618373D198434E2FA98480EA012422E9@williamsonPC> References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com><4D49CA5E.1000502@gmail.com> <321594.61277.qm@web80404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <618373D198434E2FA98480EA012422E9@williamsonPC> Message-ID: <4D4B59BF.1020406@sonic.net> When the list is relatively, complete we should consider posting it on our website. Tcherek, would that be possible? Ron 58 MGA Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote: > Hi Alan. Not problem. > Not sure when the list will be final, and as new people join or add cars > to their collection (or subtract), the list will change. I will > probably have to send out a reminder every several months. Input has > slowed considerably and I don't expect the flood that we had lately. > Clif 74 Jensen Healey From hawkview at sonic.net Fri Feb 4 12:19:09 2011 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:19:09 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] car list In-Reply-To: <4D4B59BF.1020406@sonic.net> References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com><4D49CA5E.1000502@gmail.com><321594.61277.qm@web80404.mail.mud.yahoo.com><618373D198434E2FA98480EA012422E9@williamsonPC> <4D4B59BF.1020406@sonic.net> Message-ID: <72EC7C84F8B6453BA992D98338B3C1F7@williamsonPC> Hey there, When is the Valentines Day ride and details.....picnic or lunch stop or ? Anyone know what we are going to do? Looking forward to that day. Thanks , Deb Clif...74 J.H. -----Original Message----- From: Ron Engelhardt Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 5:43 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] car list When the list is relatively, complete we should consider posting it on our website. Tcherek, would that be possible? Ron 58 MGA Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote: > Hi Alan. Not problem. > Not sure when the list will be final, and as new people join or add cars > to their collection (or subtract), the list will change. I will probably > have to send out a reminder every several months. Input has slowed > considerably and I don't expect the flood that we had lately. > Clif 74 Jensen Healey _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From gtwincams at gmail.com Fri Feb 4 13:31:36 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 12:31:36 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Details on Valentines Day drive, please? In-Reply-To: <72EC7C84F8B6453BA992D98338B3C1F7@williamsonPC> References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com><4D49CA5E.1000502@gmail.com><321594.61277.qm@web80404.mail.mud.yahoo.com><618373D198434E2FA98480EA012422E9@williamsonPC> <4D4B59BF.1020406@sonic.net> <72EC7C84F8B6453BA992D98338B3C1F7@williamsonPC> Message-ID: <4D4C6228.9050804@gmail.com> Dawson, in addition to those details, any decision on whether rain will postpone? Long-range forecast as of last night was rain for that day. Cheers, Greg Tatarian On 2/4/2011 11:19 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote: > Hey there, > When is the Valentines Day ride and details.....picnic or lunch stop > or ? Anyone know what we are going to do? > Looking forward to that day. > > Thanks , > Deb From nobbc at sonic.net Fri Feb 4 14:04:01 2011 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 13:04:01 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Details on Valentines Day drive, please? In-Reply-To: <4D4C6228.9050804@gmail.com> References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com><4D49CA5E.1000502@gmail.com><321594.61277.qm@web80404.mail.mud.yahoo.com><618373D198434E2FA98480EA012422E9@williamsonPC> <4D4B59BF.1020406@sonic.net> <72EC7C84F8B6453BA992D98338B3C1F7@williamsonPC> <4D4C6228.9050804@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D4C69C1.20203@sonic.net> The long range forecast on weather.com for that weekend looks good...sunny and warm (60ish) so we may not need to worry about rain, top down all the way! Ron 58 MGA Greg Tatarian wrote: > Dawson, in addition to those details, any decision on whether rain will > postpone? Long-range forecast as of last night was rain for that day. > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian From bluesson at hotmail.com Fri Feb 4 14:28:52 2011 From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:28:52 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Details on Valentines Day drive, please? In-Reply-To: <4D4C69C1.20203@sonic.net> References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com><4D49CA5E.1000502@gmail.com><321594.61277.qm@web80404.mail.mud.yahoo.com><618373D198434E2FA98480EA012422E9@williamsonPC>, <4D4B59BF.1020406@sonic.net>, <72EC7C84F8B6453BA992D98338B3C1F7@williamsonPC>, <4D4C6228.9050804@gmail.com>, <4D4C69C1.20203@sonic.net> Message-ID: Extended forecast for Santa Rosa: Saturday 2/12 sprinkles late more clouds than sun. mild. Sunday 2/13 showers early scattered clouds. Tom R > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:04:01 -0800 > From: nobbc at sonic.net > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Details on Valentines Day drive, please? > > The long range forecast on weather.com for that weekend looks > good...sunny and warm (60ish) so we may not need to worry about rain, > top down all the way! > > Ron > 58 MGA > > Greg Tatarian wrote: > > Dawson, in addition to those details, any decision on whether rain will > > postpone? Long-range forecast as of last night was rain for that day. > > Cheers, > > Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/bluesson at hotmail.com From mvg1 at att.net Fri Feb 4 16:30:54 2011 From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:30:54 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Details on Valentines Day drive, please? References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com><4D49CA5E.1000502@gmail.com><321594.61277.qm@web80404.mail.mud.yahoo.com><618373D198434E2FA98480EA012422E9@williamsonPC><4D4B59BF.1020406@sonic.net><72EC7C84F8B6453BA992D98338B3C1F7@williamsonPC><4D4C6228.9050804@gmail.com> <4D4C69C1.20203@sonic.net> Message-ID: So OK, I didn't see an email from Dawson, so I'm assuming the Valentines ride is Saturday 2-12? Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Details on Valentines Day drive, please? > The long range forecast on weather.com for that weekend looks good...sunny > and warm (60ish) so we may not need to worry about rain, top down all the > way! > > Ron > 58 MGA > > Greg Tatarian wrote: >> Dawson, in addition to those details, any decision on whether rain will >> postpone? Long-range forecast as of last night was rain for that day. >> Cheers, >> Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at att.net From nobbc at sonic.net Fri Feb 4 16:43:46 2011 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 15:43:46 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Details on Valentines Day drive, please? In-Reply-To: References: <380-22011113121831277@phreego.com><4D49CA5E.1000502@gmail.com><321594.61277.qm@web80404.mail.mud.yahoo.com><618373D198434E2FA98480EA012422E9@williamsonPC>, <4D4B59BF.1020406@sonic.net>, <72EC7C84F8B6453BA992D98338B3C1F7@williamsonPC>, <4D4C6228.9050804@gmail.com>, <4D4C69C1.20203@sonic.net> Message-ID: <4D4C8F32.6080401@sonic.net> Funny, just checked weather.com again and it forecasts a clear weekend for 2/12-13. Guess we'll have to wait until it's a little closer. Ron 58 MGA Tom Reier wrote: > Extended forecast for Santa Rosa: Saturday 2/12 sprinkles late more clouds > than sun. mild. Sunday 2/13 showers early scattered clouds. > > Tom R > > >>Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:04:01 -0800 >>From: nobbc at sonic.net >>To: nobbc at autox.team.net >>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Details on Valentines Day drive, please? >> >>The long range forecast on weather.com for that weekend looks >>good...sunny and warm (60ish) so we may not need to worry about rain, >>top down all the way! >> >>Ron >>58 MGA >> >>Greg Tatarian wrote: >> >>> Dawson, in addition to those details, any decision on whether rain will >>>postpone? Long-range forecast as of last night was rain for that day. >>>Cheers, >>>Greg Tatarian >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/bluesson at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/nobbc at sonic.net From Cem2col at aol.com Sat Feb 5 13:29:40 2011 From: Cem2col at aol.com (Cem2col at aol.com) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 15:29:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Nobbc] Details on Valentines Day drive, please? Message-ID: <167c8.2d070db3.3a7f0d34@aol.com> Gentle Folk, As in the past two years, Brenda and I are looking forward to the Valentine's Day event. There is a slim possibility that I may have my Mk 1950. V Jaguar DHC on the road for the big event if I can complete brake and tire replacement in time. My British Cars are as follows:1950 MK. V. Jaguar DHC gray with black top 1953 Sunbeam Alpine Mk I. needs transmission leak repaired "To Catch A Thief" For some time now our newsletters have mentioned an $11.47 annual dues but no comments as to where it is to be sent. Until we meet at Dawson's home. Cheers: Charles and Brenda Medcalf From nobbc at sonic.net Sat Feb 5 14:51:26 2011 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 13:51:26 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Details on Valentines Day drive, please? In-Reply-To: <167c8.2d070db3.3a7f0d34@aol.com> References: <167c8.2d070db3.3a7f0d34@aol.com> Message-ID: <4D4DC65E.2070901@sonic.net> It will be good to see you there Charles, hope the Jag is ready in time. As far as dues...we don't have any. On rare occasions, like when our website is up for renewal, we do collect voluntary donations. We specifically set up the club with no dues and no rules because we don't like them or need them. This was the first and maybe only thing we decided at the first meeting of our charter members 8/4/2001. Ron 58 MGA Cem2col at aol.com wrote: > Gentle Folk, > As in the past two years, Brenda and I are looking forward to the > Valentine's Day event. There is a slim possibility that I may have my Mk 1950. V > Jaguar DHC on the road for the big event if I can complete brake and tire > replacement in time. > > My British Cars are as follows:1950 MK. V. Jaguar DHC gray with black > top > 1953 Sunbeam Alpine Mk I. needs > transmission leak repaired > "To Catch A Thief" > For some time now our newsletters have mentioned an $11.47 annual > dues but no comments as to where it is to be sent. Until we meet at Dawson's > home. > > Cheers: > > Charles and Brenda Medcalf > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/nobbc at sonic.net From nobbc at sonic.net Sun Feb 6 14:08:51 2011 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 13:08:51 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: car list] Message-ID: <4D4F0DE3.3020909@sonic.net> From Walter Kilcherr: -------- Original Message -------- Subject: car list Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 11:45:46 -0800 (PST) From: Walter & Gwen Kilchherr To: nobbc at sonic.net Could you please throw my cars on the list. I tried, but since I opted out of the barrage of email I'm no longer able to add to the conversations at all. '67' Austin Healey 3000 Mk III (driver) '62' Square body Sprite (95%) Thank you Walter From giannilarosa at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 8 10:50:48 2011 From: giannilarosa at sbcglobal.net (gianni) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 09:50:48 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] =?utf-8?q?Details_on_Valentines_Day_drive=2C_please_=3F?= In-Reply-To: <4D4DC65E.2070901@sonic.net> References: <167c8.2d070db3.3a7f0d34@aol.com> <4D4DC65E.2070901@sonic.net> Message-ID: <77600912-43da-4d5b-952f-8b0eb625a0f3@blur> So............have we decided where we will be going on V day? Gianni FUN MGA Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Ron Engelhardt To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: 2011 Feb, Sat, 5 21:51:26 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Details on Valentines Day drive, please? It will be good to see you there Charles, hope the Jag is ready in time. As far as dues...we don't have any. On rare occasions, like when our website is up for renewal, we do collect voluntary donations. We specifically set up the club with no dues and no rules because we don't like them or need them. This was the first and maybe only thing we decided at the first meeting of our charter members 8/4/2001. Ron 58 MGA Cem2col at aol.com wrote: > Gentle Folk, > As in the past two years, Brenda and I are looking forward to the > Valentine's Day event. There is a slim possibility that I may have my Mk 1950. V > Jaguar DHC on the road for the big event if I can complete brake and tire > replacement in time. > > My British Cars are as follows:1950 MK. V. Jaguar DHC gray with black > top > 1953 Sunbeam Alpine Mk I. needs > transmission leak repaired > "To Catch A Thief" > For some time now our newsletters have mentioned an $11.47 annual > dues but no comments as to where it is to be sent. Until we meet at Dawson's > home. > > Cheers: > > Charles and Brenda Medcalf > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/nobbc at sonic.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/giannilarosa at sbcglobal.net From nobbc at sonic.net Tue Feb 8 12:01:42 2011 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 11:01:42 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Details on Valentines Day drive, please ? In-Reply-To: <77600912-43da-4d5b-952f-8b0eb625a0f3@blur> References: <167c8.2d070db3.3a7f0d34@aol.com> <4D4DC65E.2070901@sonic.net> <77600912-43da-4d5b-952f-8b0eb625a0f3@blur> Message-ID: <4D519316.50800@sonic.net> This is Dawson's ride...I'm sure he'll give us the details soon. In years past, we have met at his house for coffee and pastry then driven off. Usually draws a big crowd even in bad weather. Ron 58 MGA gianni wrote: > So............have we decided where we will be going on V day? > > Gianni > FUN MGA From gtwincams at gmail.com Tue Feb 8 13:25:05 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (gtwincams at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 20:25:05 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] Details on Valentines Day drive, please ? Message-ID: Ron, Dawson recently changed his email address; wonder if he's getting these emails asking about the drive? Seems like he'd have posted a followup to his original invite before now. Greg Tatarian Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From dawsonchurch at gmail.com Tue Feb 8 14:26:57 2011 From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com (Dawson Church) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:26:57 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Details on Valentines Day Drive: Best of Sonoma County! Message-ID: Hi Friends! We're on for Saturday Feb 12, and our prayers to Mother Nature have been successful, because the forecast rain has now moved to the following week Tuesday. NOBBC obviously has great influence with her! We'll drive to the Dry Creek wine appellation, which has gorgeous scenery as well as exceptional wineries. We'll stop at a deli so those who haven't brought lunch can get sandwiches, and then eat at Sbragia winery. Sbragia has a huge deck and great views of the valley, as well as a large parking lot. The day will be a sampler of the best of Sonoma County! Please bring friends, spouses, significant others; this is a great opportunity to share our wonderful NOBBC experiences with them. We'll meet at my place at 10 am for coffee and fresh-baked croissants. We'll park in a big circle in the driveway as usual, to admire each other's cars, and take photographs. Please park CLOSE to each other I expect a big turnout. The address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd. Look for the big yellow mailbox on the right, with the numerals 1490. On the far side of the driveway is a road sign indicating that Michelle Way is the next left. My home/office phone number is 707 525 9292. Cell is 707 486 9961. On the day, I'll provide route maps. We'll have two groups of cars, one traveling faster and one traveling slower, with a leader for each. Thanks for making this such a special occasion! It will be a pleasure to see you all on Saturday. Dawson On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > Dawson, in addition to those details, any decision on whether rain will > postpone? Long-range forecast as of last night was rain for that day. > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > > > > On 2/4/2011 11:19 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote: > >> Hey there, >> When is the Valentines Day ride and details.....picnic or lunch stop or ? >> Anyone know what we are going to do? >> Looking forward to that day. >> >> Thanks , >> Deb >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > -- Dawson From cobra289 at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 8 14:52:52 2011 From: cobra289 at sbcglobal.net (PAUL HARPER) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:52:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] Local MGB repair/modification Message-ID: <120401.9385.qm@web180105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> We have a 1979 MGB with a throwout bearing that is going out. We've thought about several things including tranny swap to a 5 speed, engine and tranny swap to a ? engine with a 5 speed, getting a tranny with an overdrive or just repairing the throwout bearing. We would like to hear any opinions and would be interested in local repair shops to talk to or any information on engine swaps. Thanks. From drmartyrayman at gmail.com Tue Feb 8 16:31:15 2011 From: drmartyrayman at gmail.com (Martin Sinai Rayman) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 15:31:15 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Local MGB repair/modification In-Reply-To: <120401.9385.qm@web180105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <120401.9385.qm@web180105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: In San Rafael: Clint Wright @ Ed Wright's Brit. Car Repair 142 Mill Street San Rafael, CA 94901 (415) 457-1707 Marty Rayman '53 MG TD On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 1:52 PM, PAUL HARPER wrote: > We have a 1979 MGB with a throwout bearing that is going out. We've > thought > about several things including tranny swap to a 5 speed, engine and tranny > swap > to a ? engine with a 5 speed, getting a tranny with an overdrive or just > repairing the throwout bearing. We would like to hear any opinions and > would > be > interested in local repair shops to talk to or any information on engine > swaps. > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/drmartyrayman at gmail.com > -- *Martin Sinai Rayman, D.D.S. Pediatric Dentistry* 912 Grand Avenue, #202 San Rafael, CA 94901-3538 Voice: 415.459.1444 FAX: 415.459.1320 Website: http://www.openbigdds.com * I arise in the morning torn between a desire to improve the world and a desire to enjoy the world. This makes it hard to plan the day. -E.B. 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From cobra289 at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 8 17:08:00 2011 From: cobra289 at sbcglobal.net (PAUL HARPER) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 16:08:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] Local MGB repair/modification In-Reply-To: References: <120401.9385.qm@web180105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <562647.65895.qm@web180101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Thank you. ________________________________ From: Martin Sinai Rayman To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 3:31:15 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Local MGB repair/modification In San Rafael: Clint Wright @ Ed Wright's Brit. Car Repair 142 Mill Street San Rafael, CA 94901 (415) 457-1707 Marty Rayman '53 MG TD On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 1:52 PM, PAUL HARPER wrote: > We have a 1979 MGB with a throwout bearing that is going out. We've > thought > about several things including tranny swap to a 5 speed, engine and tranny > swap > to a ? engine with a 5 speed, getting a tranny with an overdrive or just > repairing the throwout bearing. We would like to hear any opinions and > would > be > interested in local repair shops to talk to or any information on engine > swaps. > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/drmartyrayman at gmail.com > -- *Martin Sinai Rayman, D.D.S. Pediatric Dentistry* 912 Grand Avenue, #202 San Rafael, CA 94901-3538 Voice: 415.459.1444 FAX: 415.459.1320 Website: http://www.openbigdds.com * I arise in the morning torn between a desire to improve the world and a desire to enjoy the world. This makes it hard to plan the day. -E.B. White * NOTICE: This communication, including any attachments, is confidential and may be protected by privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by telephone or e-mail, and permanently delete all copies, electronic or other, you may have. The foregoing applies even if this notice is embedded in a message that is forwarded or attached. _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/cobra289 at sbcglobal.net From andypreston at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 8 18:25:00 2011 From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (Andy Preston) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 17:25:00 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Local MGB repair/modification In-Reply-To: <120401.9385.qm@web180105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <120401.9385.qm@web180105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Paul, my recommendation would be to repair the throw out bearing unless you have a tranny with O/D in your back yard. The 5 speed is also nice but will put you back over $3k plus installation. The only British shop that I know in Rohnert Park/Cotati is British European and they do very good work. I also agree with Marty that Ed Wright's shop in San Rafael is very good and has been in business for ever. Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of PAUL HARPER Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 1:53 PM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: [Nobbc] Local MGB repair/modification We have a 1979 MGB with a throwout bearing that is going out. We've thought about several things including tranny swap to a 5 speed, engine and tranny swap to a ? engine with a 5 speed, getting a tranny with an overdrive or just repairing the throwout bearing. We would like to hear any opinions and would be interested in local repair shops to talk to or any information on engine swaps. Thanks. _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/andypreston at sbcglobal.net From hawkview at sonic.net Thu Feb 10 01:04:49 2011 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:04:49 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Car List In-Reply-To: References: <120401.9385.qm@web180105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Regarding the "Car List". I have asked Greg Tatarian to take over this list and he as excepted. His knowledge of British cars and the use of Excel will enhance the list usefulness and accuracy. It was a lot of fun compiling the list and finding out what a great selection of cars are in the club. I can't wait until we have a big meet to see them and meet everybody. The banter about what is and isn't a British car made for, in my opinion, some great emails. Thanks Greg and yes, Deborah and I will be at Dawson's VDay ride. See you there. Clif and Deborah 74 Jensen Healey From lgardini at sbcglobal.net Thu Feb 10 07:24:15 2011 From: lgardini at sbcglobal.net (Larry Gardini) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:24:15 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Local MGB repair/modification In-Reply-To: <120401.9385.qm@web180105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Becarefull if you decide to swap engines. I am assuming you mean to a V6 or V8 or late model overhead cam 4. With a 79 you will end up with a night mare as far as smog goes. Any car with a an engine swap and a title after 75 becomes unsaleable in California unless you incorperate all the smog requirements for the year of the engine. just my opinion Larry -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of PAUL HARPER Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 1:53 PM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: [Nobbc] Local MGB repair/modification We have a 1979 MGB with a throwout bearing that is going out. We've thought about several things including tranny swap to a 5 speed, engine and tranny swap to a ? engine with a 5 speed, getting a tranny with an overdrive or just repairing the throwout bearing. We would like to hear any opinions and would be interested in local repair shops to talk to or any information on engine swaps. Thanks. _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/lgardini at sbcglobal.net From gtwincams at gmail.com Thu Feb 10 09:35:19 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:35:19 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Car List In-Reply-To: References: <120401.9385.qm@web180105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D5413C7.6000208@gmail.com> Hello NOBBC'ers, As Clif has told you, he has decided he would like to pass on the car list, now that he's done all the hard work. I think it was very cool that Clif as a relatively new member volunteered to jump right in and do something like this, particularly because I personally didn't anticipate the interest that was generated by our regular participants. Well, done, Clif, and thank you for your efforts. Unfortunately, you're now stained with the mark of the "active member", so you are going to get hit up for more contributions in the future! At Clif's request, I massaged the Excel table a little, and have made the a few refinements; I've locked the two top rows, and put the names flush left, along with a few other things that should enhance readability. For anyone who still wants a copy, I can provide it in two versions; either 1997-2003 or 2007, or as a PDF for those without Excel. For those who have already received a copy from Clif and have corrections or changes to make, send them directly to me at gtwincams at gmail.com and I'll take care of it. Need a copy? Email me and I'll send you the current version. Ron - do you have any objection to members flogging items for sale on the list? We've never come up with a consensus on this, but I defer to you to as moderator. Currently, a few members have posted emails about what they want to sell, however I could also expand on Clif's "car for sale" information by adding "parts for sale", or simply creating a new list just for Member's cars and parts for sale. I'm happy to regularly maintain and update the list with anything members would want to post, however adding that info to the table would only be useful if a new version was made available on a regular basis, which could also be done easily. This would be a good way for members to keep track of what other members are selling at a glance, rather than going back through old emails, etc. What do you all think? Cheers, Greg Tatarian From nobbc at sonic.net Thu Feb 10 11:56:26 2011 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:56:26 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Car List In-Reply-To: <4D5413C7.6000208@gmail.com> References: <120401.9385.qm@web180105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4D5413C7.6000208@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D5434DA.40701@sonic.net> Thanks for doing this Greg, I would like a copy. As far as items for sale, I have no problem...we're all "family" here. I guess if it gets out of hand, we can revisit the topic. There is a for sale section on our website also that may be useful. Ron 58 MGA Greg Tatarian wrote: > Hello NOBBC'ers, > > As Clif has told you, he has decided he would like to pass on the car > list, now that he's done all the hard work. I think it was very cool > that Clif as a relatively new member volunteered to jump right in and do > something like this, particularly because I personally didn't anticipate > the interest that was generated by our regular participants. Well, done, > Clif, and thank you for your efforts. Unfortunately, you're now stained > with the mark of the "active member", so you are going to get hit up for > more contributions in the future! > > At Clif's request, I massaged the Excel table a little, and have made > the a few refinements; I've locked the two top rows, and put the names > flush left, along with a few other things that should enhance > readability. For anyone who still wants a copy, I can provide it in two > versions; either 1997-2003 or 2007, or as a PDF for those without Excel. > For those who have already received a copy from Clif and have > corrections or changes to make, send them directly to me at > gtwincams at gmail.com and I'll take care of it. Need a copy? Email me and > I'll send you the current version. > > Ron - do you have any objection to members flogging items for sale on > the list? We've never come up with a consensus on this, but I defer to > you to as moderator. Currently, a few members have posted emails about > what they want to sell, however I could also expand on Clif's "car for > sale" information by adding "parts for sale", or simply creating a new > list just for Member's cars and parts for sale. I'm happy to regularly > maintain and update the list with anything members would want to post, > however adding that info to the table would only be useful if a new > version was made available on a regular basis, which could also be done > easily. This would be a good way for members to keep track of what other > members are selling at a glance, rather than going back through old > emails, etc. What do you all think? > > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/nobbc at sonic.net From rnapda at yahoo.com Thu Feb 10 13:14:39 2011 From: rnapda at yahoo.com (Richard Anderson) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:14:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] Car List In-Reply-To: <4D5434DA.40701@sonic.net> References: <120401.9385.qm@web180105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4D5413C7.6000208@gmail.com> <4D5434DA.40701@sonic.net> Message-ID: <364352.59555.qm@web46012.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi Ron and All, Been out of town, here are my cars: 1967 Jag XKE Series I Roadster - 8 1973 Jag XKE Series III Roadster - 7 1973 Jag XKE Series III Roadster - 2 Would also like the list. Thanks, Dick ________________________________ From: Ron Engelhardt To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 10:56:26 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List Thanks for doing this Greg, I would like a copy. As far as items for sale, I have no problem...we're all "family" here. I guess if it gets out of hand, we can revisit the topic. There is a for sale section on our website also that may be useful. Ron 58 MGA Greg Tatarian wrote: > Hello NOBBC'ers, > > As Clif has told you, he has decided he would like to pass on the car list, now >that he's done all the hard work. I think it was very cool that Clif as a >relatively new member volunteered to jump right in and do something like this, >particularly because I personally didn't anticipate the interest that was >generated by our regular participants. Well, done, Clif, and thank you for your >efforts. Unfortunately, you're now stained with the mark of the "active member", >so you are going to get hit up for more contributions in the future! > > At Clif's request, I massaged the Excel table a little, and have made the a few >refinements; I've locked the two top rows, and put the names flush left, along >with a few other things that should enhance readability. For anyone who still >wants a copy, I can provide it in two versions; either 1997-2003 or 2007, or as >a PDF for those without Excel. For those who have already received a copy from >Clif and have corrections or changes to make, send them directly to me at >gtwincams at gmail.com and I'll take care of it. Need a copy? Email me and I'll >send you the current version. > > Ron - do you have any objection to members flogging items for sale on the list? >We've never come up with a consensus on this, but I defer to you to as >moderator. Currently, a few members have posted emails about what they want to >sell, however I could also expand on Clif's "car for sale" information by adding >"parts for sale", or simply creating a new list just for Member's cars and parts >for sale. I'm happy to regularly maintain and update the list with anything >members would want to post, however adding that info to the table would only be >useful if a new version was made available on a regular basis, which could also >be done easily. This would be a good way for members to keep track of what other >members are selling at a glance, rather than going back through old emails, etc. >What do you all think? > > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/nobbc at sonic.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rnapda at yahoo.com From morrisf at SIDWater.org Thu Feb 10 14:45:05 2011 From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:45:05 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Car List In-Reply-To: <364352.59555.qm@web46012.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <120401.9385.qm@web180105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><4D5413C7.6000208@gmail.com> <4D5434DA.40701@sonic.net> <364352.59555.qm@web46012.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B5F8@echo01.SID.LOCAL> Hello Dick: With all of those E-types I thought you should be aware of the 50th Anniversary celebration at the Blackhawk Museum on June 12th, 2011. Actually a three day event. I have a listed contact of Dudley Smolen at 415-939-3493 and dudlyeys at att.net Does anyone else have more info? Frank Morris -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Anderson Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:15 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List Hi Ron and All, Been out of town, here are my cars: 1967 Jag XKE Series I Roadster - 8 1973 Jag XKE Series III Roadster - 7 1973 Jag XKE Series III Roadster - 2 Would also like the list. Thanks, Dick ________________________________ From: Ron Engelhardt To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 10:56:26 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List Thanks for doing this Greg, I would like a copy. As far as items for sale, I have no problem...we're all "family" here. I guess if it gets out of hand, we can revisit the topic. There is a for sale section on our website also that may be useful. Ron 58 MGA Greg Tatarian wrote: > Hello NOBBC'ers, > > As Clif has told you, he has decided he would like to pass on the car list, now >that he's done all the hard work. I think it was very cool that Clif as a >relatively new member volunteered to jump right in and do something like this, >particularly because I personally didn't anticipate the interest that was >generated by our regular participants. Well, done, Clif, and thank you for your >efforts. Unfortunately, you're now stained with the mark of the "active member", >so you are going to get hit up for more contributions in the future! > > At Clif's request, I massaged the Excel table a little, and have made the a few >refinements; I've locked the two top rows, and put the names flush left, along >with a few other things that should enhance readability. For anyone who still >wants a copy, I can provide it in two versions; either 1997-2003 or 2007, or as >a PDF for those without Excel. For those who have already received a copy from >Clif and have corrections or changes to make, send them directly to me at >gtwincams at gmail.com and I'll take care of it. Need a copy? Email me and I'll >send you the current version. > > Ron - do you have any objection to members flogging items for sale on the list? >We've never come up with a consensus on this, but I defer to you to as >moderator. Currently, a few members have posted emails about what they want to >sell, however I could also expand on Clif's "car for sale" information by adding >"parts for sale", or simply creating a new list just for Member's cars and parts >for sale. I'm happy to regularly maintain and update the list with anything >members would want to post, however adding that info to the table would only be >useful if a new version was made available on a regular basis, which could also >be done easily. This would be a good way for members to keep track of what other >members are selling at a glance, rather than going back through old emails, etc. >What do you all think? > > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/nobbc at sonic.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rnapda at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org From cobra289 at sbcglobal.net Thu Feb 10 16:43:50 2011 From: cobra289 at sbcglobal.net (PAUL HARPER) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:43:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] Local MGB repair/modification In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <549328.7699.qm@web180114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Larry, Good thought, but in this case we have the car titled in AZ where, if you have classic car insurance, you don't have to do emissions testing as they call it in AZ. It's a good thing to remember for a TR6 we have that doesn't run. We have also considered an engine swap for it. Lee ________________________________ From: Larry Gardini To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 6:24:15 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Local MGB repair/modification Becarefull if you decide to swap engines. I am assuming you mean to a V6 or V8 or late model overhead cam 4. With a 79 you will end up with a night mare as far as smog goes. Any car with a an engine swap and a title after 75 becomes unsaleable in California unless you incorperate all the smog requirements for the year of the engine. just my opinion Larry -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of PAUL HARPER Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 1:53 PM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: [Nobbc] Local MGB repair/modification We have a 1979 MGB with a throwout bearing that is going out. We've thought about several things including tranny swap to a 5 speed, engine and tranny swap to a ? engine with a 5 speed, getting a tranny with an overdrive or just repairing the throwout bearing. We would like to hear any opinions and would be interested in local repair shops to talk to or any information on engine swaps. Thanks. _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/lgardini at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/cobra289 at sbcglobal.net From andypreston at sbcglobal.net Thu Feb 10 19:33:33 2011 From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (Andy Preston) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:33:33 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Car List In-Reply-To: <4D5413C7.6000208@gmail.com> References: <120401.9385.qm@web180105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4D5413C7.6000208@gmail.com> Message-ID: Greg thanks for taking over the list, I think it will be extremely useful in finding members with the same car and being able to ask questions to them. Pleas send me the list in Excel 2003. I look forward to seeing both of you and your Lotus Coupe on Saturday. Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Tatarian Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:35 AM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List Hello NOBBC'ers, As Clif has told you, he has decided he would like to pass on the car list, now that he's done all the hard work. I think it was very cool that Clif as a relatively new member volunteered to jump right in and do something like this, particularly because I personally didn't anticipate the interest that was generated by our regular participants. Well, done, Clif, and thank you for your efforts. Unfortunately, you're now stained with the mark of the "active member", so you are going to get hit up for more contributions in the future! At Clif's request, I massaged the Excel table a little, and have made the a few refinements; I've locked the two top rows, and put the names flush left, along with a few other things that should enhance readability. For anyone who still wants a copy, I can provide it in two versions; either 1997-2003 or 2007, or as a PDF for those without Excel. For those who have already received a copy from Clif and have corrections or changes to make, send them directly to me at gtwincams at gmail.com and I'll take care of it. Need a copy? Email me and I'll send you the current version. Ron - do you have any objection to members flogging items for sale on the list? We've never come up with a consensus on this, but I defer to you to as moderator. Currently, a few members have posted emails about what they want to sell, however I could also expand on Clif's "car for sale" information by adding "parts for sale", or simply creating a new list just for Member's cars and parts for sale. I'm happy to regularly maintain and update the list with anything members would want to post, however adding that info to the table would only be useful if a new version was made available on a regular basis, which could also be done easily. This would be a good way for members to keep track of what other members are selling at a glance, rather than going back through old emails, etc. What do you all think? Cheers, Greg Tatarian _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/andypreston at sbcglobal.net From hawkview at sonic.net Thu Feb 10 19:40:26 2011 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:40:26 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Car List In-Reply-To: <4D5413C7.6000208@gmail.com> References: <120401.9385.qm@web180105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4D5413C7.6000208@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8292ED6340A342B1B63645E6BA125DDF@williamsonPC> Well Greg, here is what I think. Thanks for the thanks. And thanks for the great new ideas. Along with items for sale, I think wanted items would be a great feature as well. As I have been reading the emails for the last few weeks, several people have found a needed item, and somebody has gotten it out of their garage. Two pluses! I think the hard part will keeping such a list up to date. Members will need to update you when they sell or find an item. Anyway, it's a lot better than Ebay! Clif 74 Jensen Healey -----Original Message----- From: Greg Tatarian Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:35 AM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List Hello NOBBC'ers, As Clif has told you, he has decided he would like to pass on the car list, now that he's done all the hard work. I think it was very cool that Clif as a relatively new member volunteered to jump right in and do something like this, particularly because I personally didn't anticipate the interest that was generated by our regular participants. Well, done, Clif, and thank you for your efforts. Unfortunately, you're now stained with the mark of the "active member", so you are going to get hit up for more contributions in the future! At Clif's request, I massaged the Excel table a little, and have made the a few refinements; I've locked the two top rows, and put the names flush left, along with a few other things that should enhance readability. For anyone who still wants a copy, I can provide it in two versions; either 1997-2003 or 2007, or as a PDF for those without Excel. For those who have already received a copy from Clif and have corrections or changes to make, send them directly to me at gtwincams at gmail.com and I'll take care of it. Need a copy? Email me and I'll send you the current version. Ron - do you have any objection to members flogging items for sale on the list? We've never come up with a consensus on this, but I defer to you to as moderator. Currently, a few members have posted emails about what they want to sell, however I could also expand on Clif's "car for sale" information by adding "parts for sale", or simply creating a new list just for Member's cars and parts for sale. I'm happy to regularly maintain and update the list with anything members would want to post, however adding that info to the table would only be useful if a new version was made available on a regular basis, which could also be done easily. This would be a good way for members to keep track of what other members are selling at a glance, rather than going back through old emails, etc. What do you all think? Cheers, Greg Tatarian _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From andypreston at sbcglobal.net Thu Feb 10 19:47:49 2011 From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (Andy Preston) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:47:49 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Car List In-Reply-To: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B5F8@echo01.SID.LOCAL> References: <120401.9385.qm@web180105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><4D5413C7.6000208@gmail.com><4D5434DA.40701@sonic.net><364352.59555.qm@web46012.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B5F8@echo01.SID.LOCAL> Message-ID: <389EC14A28BC4CDF99676E1F532D7963@Bonusroom> Hi Frank, Dudley is a friend of mine and has been involved in chairing this event for a while. I'm sure he'd love to here from you and tell you all about the event or you can get more info at www.jags.org/. At the moment he's repairing the rear end on his 63 E type (original owner) and recently bought a beautiful 86 XJ6 which recently started blowing white smoke (probably a head gasket). He's also got 2 MGBs. Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Morris Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:45 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List Hello Dick: With all of those E-types I thought you should be aware of the 50th Anniversary celebration at the Blackhawk Museum on June 12th, 2011. Actually a three day event. I have a listed contact of Dudley Smolen at 415-939-3493 and dudlyeys at att.net Does anyone else have more info? Frank Morris -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Anderson Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:15 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List Hi Ron and All, Been out of town, here are my cars: 1967 Jag XKE Series I Roadster - 8 1973 Jag XKE Series III Roadster - 7 1973 Jag XKE Series III Roadster - 2 Would also like the list. Thanks, Dick ________________________________ From: Ron Engelhardt To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 10:56:26 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List Thanks for doing this Greg, I would like a copy. As far as items for sale, I have no problem...we're all "family" here. I guess if it gets out of hand, we can revisit the topic. There is a for sale section on our website also that may be useful. Ron 58 MGA Greg Tatarian wrote: > Hello NOBBC'ers, > > As Clif has told you, he has decided he would like to pass on the car list, now >that he's done all the hard work. I think it was very cool that Clif as a >relatively new member volunteered to jump right in and do something like this, >particularly because I personally didn't anticipate the interest that was >generated by our regular participants. Well, done, Clif, and thank you for your >efforts. Unfortunately, you're now stained with the mark of the "active member", >so you are going to get hit up for more contributions in the future! > > At Clif's request, I massaged the Excel table a little, and have made the a few >refinements; I've locked the two top rows, and put the names flush left, along >with a few other things that should enhance readability. For anyone who still >wants a copy, I can provide it in two versions; either 1997-2003 or 2007, or as >a PDF for those without Excel. For those who have already received a copy from >Clif and have corrections or changes to make, send them directly to me at >gtwincams at gmail.com and I'll take care of it. Need a copy? Email me and I'll >send you the current version. > > Ron - do you have any objection to members flogging items for sale on the list? >We've never come up with a consensus on this, but I defer to you to as >moderator. Currently, a few members have posted emails about what they want to >sell, however I could also expand on Clif's "car for sale" information by adding >"parts for sale", or simply creating a new list just for Member's cars and parts >for sale. I'm happy to regularly maintain and update the list with anything >members would want to post, however adding that info to the table would only be >useful if a new version was made available on a regular basis, which could also >be done easily. This would be a good way for members to keep track of what other >members are selling at a glance, rather than going back through old emails, etc. >What do you all think? > > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/nobbc at sonic.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rnapda at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/andypreston at sbcglobal.net From rlmossholder at comcast.net Fri Feb 11 09:09:12 2011 From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:09:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Nobbc] It's alive! In-Reply-To: <8292ED6340A342B1B63645E6BA125DDF@williamsonPC> Message-ID: <390920050.746322.1297440552718.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I was hoping to join everyone Dawson's run, but that's not going to happen. I got the Spitfire running yesterday! I went for a test run and realized that I have a lot of tuning work to do on the engine. She sputters, and is down on power. I think it's a little lean. The new suspension from PRI, on the other hand, is brilliant! Is there anyone out there with experience tuning Webers? I have a single 45 DCOE that could use some help. I have made a lot of mods to the engine and a little help would be really appreciated. I would be happy to pay someone to come over and help. Cheers, Rich From gtwincams at gmail.com Fri Feb 11 10:20:47 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 09:20:47 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] It's alive! In-Reply-To: <390920050.746322.1297440552718.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <390920050.746322.1297440552718.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4D556FEF.6090608@gmail.com> I'd bet Robin Jackson has some Weber tuning experience, Rich, though it's up to him to decide if he has time to help out. I've got some as well, enough to get some baseline data and get you in the ballpark with jetting. Only thing is that I'd want you to bring the car to me so I'd have my tools, which include a new Innovate LM-2 AFR analyzer, which could be very helpful. You'd need to do the following: 1) check with me off-list for available times 2) bring your car, and assortment of air correctors, mains, e-tubes 3) send me a list of all engine mods, including c/r 4) check with online Spitfire owner's groups for existing data on what others have used for their engines with similar states of tune. Of course, your best bet would be to take the car to a race engine shop, where they deal with Weber carbs all day long. Infineon would be your best bet in that regard. They could combine tuning with dyno runs, and you'd really have the thing dialed in. Cheers, Greg Tatarian From dawsonchurch at gmail.com Fri Feb 11 10:29:06 2011 From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com (Dawson Church) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 09:29:06 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fabulous NOBBC Valentine's Day Run! Details Below Message-ID: Hi NOBBC Friends, Here again are the details for tomorrow's (Saturday Feb 12) ride. I thought I sent them out at the start of this week, but it looks like the message may have evaporated in cyberspace. This is going to be a great ride. We have a perfect weather forecast, dry, and with a high of 70 degrees. Please bring your friends and significant others. This is a chance to show them how much fun we have with our eccentrically glorious cars! We'll gather at my house at 10 am for fresh-baked croissants, just out of the oven, and excellent coffee. We'll park in a circle, as before. 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, 95404. 2.5 miles East of the River Rd/Mark West Springs Rd exit off 101. In case you get lost, my cell number is 707 486 9961. We'll start the ride around 10:30 or so. I'll hand out some route maps so several drivers have them. We'll head East on Mark West Springs to Franz Valley Rd, and wind up at Hanna Winery in the Alexander Valley ( http://www.hannawinery.com). I have a friend who works there, and they'll reduce or waive their usual tasting fee. The wines are fantastic, and the tasting room has gorgeous views. >From there we'll go to Stryker Sonoma winery, via a slight detour on Red Winery Road (www.strykersonoma.com). Then we'll pick up sandwiches at a deli (or you can bring your own), and head over to Dry Creek appellation. We'll eat at Sbragia vineyard, which has a panoramic view of the Dry Creek Valley (www.sbragia.com). When you arrive, please park your car facing into the circle. Park as close as possible to your neighbor, space is usually very tight. First time visitors are welcome. If you have room in your car, invite one, and make a new friend! We'll drive in 2 groups, the first driving fast, the second driving slow. With a slow group, we avoid terrifying novice guests who may fail to understand that body panels rattling loudly, engines shaking, and bits sometimes falling off, is all just part of the charm of British cars. If possible, we'll keep each of the 2 groups together by pulling over at major intersections, to wait for stragglers. I'd be grateful if someone could lead each group, and someone else could take pictures and post them on Picasa later, so we can all share. After lunch at Sbragia, we'll make our ways home at our own pace, having shared good wine, great company, and fun car lore! See you tomorrow, -- Dawson From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Fri Feb 11 11:36:51 2011 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:36:51 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] It's alive! In-Reply-To: <4D556FEF.6090608@gmail.com> References: <390920050.746322.1297440552718.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4D556FEF.6090608@gmail.com> Message-ID: That's excellent advice, Greg. I have lots of Weber parts. you are welcome to have what may be needed. Cheers, Rj On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > I'd bet Robin Jackson has some Weber tuning experience, Rich, though it's > up to him to decide if he has time to help out. I've got some as well, > enough to get some baseline data and get you in the ballpark with jetting. > Only thing is that I'd want you to bring the car to me so I'd have my tools, > which include a new Innovate LM-2 AFR analyzer, which could be very helpful. > You'd need to do the following: > 1) check with me off-list for available times > 2) bring your car, and assortment of air correctors, mains, e-tubes > 3) send me a list of all engine mods, including c/r > 4) check with online Spitfire owner's groups for existing data on what > others have used for their engines with similar states of tune. > Of course, your best bet would be to take the car to a race engine shop, > where they deal with Weber carbs all day long. Infineon would be your best > bet in that regard. They could combine tuning with dyno runs, and you'd > really have the thing dialed in. > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/apexbrit2 at gmail.com From rlmossholder at comcast.net Fri Feb 11 13:02:38 2011 From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Nobbc] It's alive! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1183877516.762415.1297454558217.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Thanks Robin, That's a big help! I'll have to check to see what jets and emulsion tubes I have in the carb. Cheers, Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Jackson" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:36:51 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] It's alive! That's excellent advice, Greg. I have lots of Weber parts. you are welcome to have what may be needed. Cheers, Rj On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > I'd bet Robin Jackson has some Weber tuning experience, Rich, though it's > up to him to decide if he has time to help out. I've got some as well, > enough to get some baseline data and get you in the ballpark with jetting. > Only thing is that I'd want you to bring the car to me so I'd have my tools, > which include a new Innovate LM-2 AFR analyzer, which could be very helpful. > You'd need to do the following: > 1) check with me off-list for available times > 2) bring your car, and assortment of air correctors, mains, e-tubes > 3) send me a list of all engine mods, including c/r > 4) check with online Spitfire owner's groups for existing data on what > others have used for their engines with similar states of tune. > Of course, your best bet would be to take the car to a race engine shop, > where they deal with Weber carbs all day long. Infineon would be your best > bet in that regard. They could combine tuning with dyno runs, and you'd > really have the thing dialed in. > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/apexbrit2 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net From gtwincams at gmail.com Sat Feb 12 07:52:40 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 06:52:40 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] MGA coupe for sale Message-ID: <4D569EB8.5040606@gmail.com> Anybody want to add another MGA coupe to the club roster? http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/2199504819.html Cheers, Greg Tatarian From gsb1159 at pacbell.net Sat Feb 12 19:46:39 2011 From: gsb1159 at pacbell.net (Greg Badano) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 18:46:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] Thanks Dawson In-Reply-To: <4D569EB8.5040606@gmail.com> Message-ID: <166064.72843.qm@web180013.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Dawson, Joanna and I want to say thank you for organizing such a nice event today and for opening your home to all of us. Heck, you even pulled some strings and pushed the rain out a couple of days! Although we had to leave early for another commitment, we still had the chance to reconnect with some familiar faces as well as make some new acquaintances. We look forward to seeing you and the group on another ride soon. Best regards, Greg & Joanna '59 AC Aceca From csaul at noleak.com Sat Feb 12 20:58:50 2011 From: csaul at noleak.com (Charlie Saul) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 19:58:50 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Thanks Dawson In-Reply-To: <166064.72843.qm@web180013.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <4D569EB8.5040606@gmail.com> <166064.72843.qm@web180013.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE4C534C@AQUA-DC1> Hear Hear, Lori and I will second that! Best Regards, Charlie and Lori Saul '52 Jag XK 120 -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Badano Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 6:47 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Thanks Dawson Dawson, Joanna and I want to say thank you for organizing such a nice event today and for opening your home to all of us. Heck, you even pulled some strings and pushed the rain out a couple of days! Although we had to leave early for another commitment, we still had the chance to reconnect with some familiar faces as well as make some new acquaintances. We look forward to seeing you and the group on another ride soon. Best regards, Greg & Joanna '59 AC Aceca _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/csaul at noleak.com From algarber at hotmail.com Sat Feb 12 23:06:50 2011 From: algarber at hotmail.com (Al Garber) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 01:06:50 -0500 Subject: [Nobbc] Thanks Dawson In-Reply-To: <661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE4C534C@AQUA-DC1> References: <4D569EB8.5040606@gmail.com>, <166064.72843.qm@web180013.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>, <661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE4C534C@AQUA-DC1> Message-ID: Dawson, Diane and I would also like to add our thanks for a spectacular day ! Al and Diane Garber 1959 TR3 A "San Francisco is 49 square miles surrounded by reality" ........... Paul Kantner > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 19:58:50 -0800 > From: csaul at noleak.com > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Thanks Dawson > > Hear Hear, > > Lori and I will second that! > > Best Regards, > > Charlie and Lori Saul > '52 Jag XK 120 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Greg Badano > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 6:47 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: [Nobbc] Thanks Dawson > > Dawson, > > Joanna and I want to say thank you for organizing such a nice event > today and > for opening your home to all of us. Heck, you even pulled some strings > and > pushed the rain out a couple of days! Although we had to leave early > for > another commitment, we still had the chance to reconnect with some > familiar faces as well as make some new acquaintances. We look forward > to > seeing you and the group on another ride soon. > > Best regards, > > Greg & Joanna > '59 AC Aceca > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/csaul at noleak.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/algarber at hotmail.com From hawkview at sonic.net Sat Feb 12 23:14:46 2011 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 22:14:46 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Thanks Dawson In-Reply-To: <661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE4C534C@AQUA-DC1> References: <4D569EB8.5040606@gmail.com><166064.72843.qm@web180013.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE4C534C@AQUA-DC1> Message-ID: <4EB08E68A0694E538ADF2CF1FA970171@williamsonPC> I'll 3rd that motion. This was a great ride on a great day, put on by a great guy. Thanks a bunch Dawson. Clif and Deborah 74 JH PS. Your doing a great job on your Jensen Healey as well. -----Original Message----- From: Charlie Saul Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 7:58 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Thanks Dawson Hear Hear, Lori and I will second that! Best Regards, Charlie and Lori Saul '52 Jag XK 120 -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Badano Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 6:47 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Thanks Dawson Dawson, Joanna and I want to say thank you for organizing such a nice event today and for opening your home to all of us. Heck, you even pulled some strings and pushed the rain out a couple of days! Although we had to leave early for another commitment, we still had the chance to reconnect with some familiar faces as well as make some new acquaintances. We look forward to seeing you and the group on another ride soon. Best regards, Greg & Joanna '59 AC Aceca _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/csaul at noleak.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From gtwincams at gmail.com Sun Feb 13 06:33:43 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (gtwincams at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:33:43 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] Thanks Dawson Message-ID: Trish and I add our appreciation to you, Dawson for a wonderful drive, and for opening your home to us all. Thanks also for providing the morning fuel! Cheers, Greg Tatarian Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From andypreston at sbcglobal.net Sun Feb 13 11:03:49 2011 From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (Andy Preston) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:03:49 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Thanks Dawson In-Reply-To: <661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE4C534C@AQUA-DC1> References: <4D569EB8.5040606@gmail.com><166064.72843.qm@web180013.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE4C534C@AQUA-DC1> Message-ID: <4EA1C3CA9CB64072A75E136DF965BF10@Bonusroom> Dawson once again you arranged a wonderful day and tour; you're becoming the very accomplished tour organizer. It was wonderful to see so many people and especially the spouses. Many thanks Andy and Marla 1960 MGA Coupe -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charlie Saul Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 7:59 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Thanks Dawson Hear Hear, Lori and I will second that! Best Regards, Charlie and Lori Saul '52 Jag XK 120 -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Badano Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 6:47 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Thanks Dawson Dawson, Joanna and I want to say thank you for organizing such a nice event today and for opening your home to all of us. Heck, you even pulled some strings and pushed the rain out a couple of days! Although we had to leave early for another commitment, we still had the chance to reconnect with some familiar faces as well as make some new acquaintances. We look forward to seeing you and the group on another ride soon. Best regards, Greg & Joanna '59 AC Aceca _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/csaul at noleak.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/andypreston at sbcglobal.net From ctwehn at hughes.net Sun Feb 13 11:48:52 2011 From: ctwehn at hughes.net (Charlie Wehn) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 18:48:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Nobbc] Thanks Dawson References: <4D569EB8.5040606@gmail.com><166064.72843.qm@web180013.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE4C534C@AQUA-DC1> <4EA1C3CA9CB64072A75E136DF965BF10@Bonusroom> Message-ID: <1826451705.460923.1297622933006.JavaMail.mail@webmail04> Thanks Dawson. Great day, lots of beautiful cars and good company. Cheers, Charlie (and Patty) TR-8, TR-6 On Feb 13, 2011, Andy Preston wrote: Dawson once again you arranged a wonderful day and tour; you're becoming the very accomplished tour organizer. It was wonderful to see so many people and especially the spouses. Many thanks Andy and Marla 1960 MGA Coupe -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charlie Saul Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 7:59 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Thanks Dawson Hear Hear, Lori and I will second that! Best Regards, Charlie and Lori Saul '52 Jag XK 120 -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Badano Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 6:47 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Thanks Dawson Dawson, Joanna and I want to say thank you for organizing such a nice event today and for opening your home to all of us. Heck, you even pulled some strings and pushed the rain out a couple of days! Although we had to leave early for another commitment, we still had the chance to reconnect with some familiar faces as well as make some new acquaintances. We look forward to seeing you and the group on another ride soon. Best regards, Greg & Joanna '59 AC Aceca _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/csaul at noleak.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/andypreston at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ctwehn at hughes.net From sarto477 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 13 13:30:44 2011 From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 12:30:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] Thanks Dawson In-Reply-To: <4EA1C3CA9CB64072A75E136DF965BF10@Bonusroom> Message-ID: <473747.58675.qm@web113510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hello Dawson, Phyliss and I had a wonderful time. There is not much more I could add to all of the others that responded to your Valentine drive. It sounds unanimous. Sarto --- On Sun, 2/13/11, Andy Preston wrote: From: Andy Preston Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Thanks Dawson To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Date: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 10:03 AM Dawson once again you arranged a wonderful day and tour; you're becoming the very accomplished tour organizer. It was wonderful to see so many people and especially the spouses. Many thanks Andy and Marla 1960 MGA Coupe -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charlie Saul Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 7:59 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Thanks Dawson Hear Hear, Lori and I will second that! Best Regards, Charlie and Lori Saul '52 Jag XK 120 -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Badano Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 6:47 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Thanks Dawson Dawson, Joanna and I want to say thank you for organizing such a nice event today and for opening your home to all of us. Heck, you even pulled some strings and pushed the rain out a couple of days! Although we had to leave early for another commitment, we still had the chance to reconnect with some familiar faces as well as make some new acquaintances. We look forward to seeing you and the group on another ride soon. Best regards, Greg & Joanna '59 AC Aceca _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/csaul at noleak.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/andypreston at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/sarto477 at yahoo.com From mvg1 at att.net Sun Feb 13 16:01:31 2011 From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 15:01:31 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Thank you Dawson Message-ID: Hello Dawson, I would like to add my thanks to you and your wife for your hospitality yesterday. I missed this event last year and really wanted to attend this ride this year. It was really cool to see all of the lbc's that were there, and who knew that red is the apparent official color of the MGA. Beautiful day, beautiful cars, and a lot of fun. This was my first time driving my TR 4 since have knee surgery in December, and it was kind of embarrassing to have to talk to people bent over at the waist, (my apologies to all), but the pain in my butt, back and legs was worth it. I enjoyed the day immensely. Michael 64 TR4 From sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com Sun Feb 13 16:11:12 2011 From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com (sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 15:11:12 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Please Be Our Guest At AutoVino Message-ID: <48FF4770248B40EC9E07922E798BEBC2@mike> For or MG owners. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: RACER BUD To: RACER BUD Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 9:48 AM Subject: Fw: Please Be Our Guest At AutoVino thanks to SCOTT 'PILEDRIVER' BROWN for the following. Racer Bud Hi guys.... details below. s Scott Brown Design | 650 261 9051- studio | 650 245 1303 - cell | www.scottbrowndesign.com | www.bellamoto.com Begin forwarded message: The February 16th AutoVino Enthusiasts and Racers Lunch program will celebrate MG Cars in Racing and the MG Racers 2011 National Focus Vintage Race Event with CSRG at Infineon Raceway April 1-3. Kjel Qvale, Joe Huffaker and Joe Huffaker Jr. as well as other guests will share their participation in MG history on the West Coast. Scott Brown noted vintage MG racer has organized a group of past and current MG racers to present a fascinating program about this legendary marque and its racing history. The MG launched the national Sports Car movement just after World War II, that led to the national Sports Car racing movement beginning in the late 1940s. Soon Sports Car races were attracting huge crowds. MG cars were the most popular marque on North American streets and in SCCA races for several decades thereafter. MG Racers, an association of vintage MG owner/racers, for the past three decades has annually organized one or more vintage racing features attracting up to 150 cars. The CSRG vintage and historic racing weekend in April is expected to attract a record number of legendary vintage MG racing cars from across the country. Western MG car clubs are invited to participate in a car corral and special MG activities. There will be a catered lunch provided and Woodside Vineyards wines will be available by the glass ($5) or bottle. The cost is $25 at the door or $20 prepayment. Please call (650) 847-1488 or contact Tim Espasandin (tim at auto-vino.org) for prepayment. Lunch will be served at noon. The presentation will begin at 12:30 and end at 1pm. Guests are welcome to stay after the event to enjoy the wine, cars and other amenities. RSVP's are greatly appreciated. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of s copy.jpg] From morrisf at SIDWater.org Sun Feb 13 17:32:05 2011 From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 16:32:05 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Thank you Dawson In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B618@echo01.SID.LOCAL> Wow, I feel like I missed a really gud 'un...the ride sounded fun. Went kayaking...just too many things to do and so little time. Mike, may your pain be a 3 or less...tolerable. Definitely want to go to CSRG event in April. There is a Reno MG event in mid June and a Jag E 50th event too. See, just too much to choose from. Well back to yard work. Maybe scoot around the block in a LBC as a poor substitute for yesterday??? Frank Morris ----- Original Message ----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net To: nobbc Sent: Sun Feb 13 15:01:31 2011 Subject: [Nobbc] Thank you Dawson Hello Dawson, I would like to add my thanks to you and your wife for your hospitality yesterday. I missed this event last year and really wanted to attend this ride this year. It was really cool to see all of the lbc's that were there, and who knew that red is the apparent official color of the MGA. Beautiful day, beautiful cars, and a lot of fun. This was my first time driving my TR 4 since have knee surgery in December, and it was kind of embarrassing to have to talk to people bent over at the waist, (my apologies to all), but the pain in my butt, back and legs was worth it. I enjoyed the day immensely. Michael 64 TR4 _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org From algarber at hotmail.com Sun Feb 13 18:42:36 2011 From: algarber at hotmail.com (Al Garber) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:42:36 -0500 Subject: [Nobbc] (no subject) Message-ID: A few photos from the 2/12/2011 Valentine drive. http://albums.phanfare.com/slideshow.aspx?i=1&db=1&pw=3buf0ayE&a_id=5014114 "San Francisco is 49 square miles surrounded by reality" ........... Paul Kantner From giannilarosa at sbcglobal.net Sun Feb 13 19:52:58 2011 From: giannilarosa at sbcglobal.net (gianni) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 18:52:58 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7adbe765-1d65-4662-b932-5b725ed720a6@blur> Nice Al Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Al Garber To: NOBBCC Sent: 2011 Feb, Mon, 14 01:42:36 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Nobbc] (no subject) A few photos from the 2/12/2011 Valentine drive. http://albums.phanfare.com/slideshow.aspx?i=1&db=1&pw=3buf0ayE&a_id=5014114 "San Francisco is 49 square miles surrounded by reality" ........... Paul Kantner _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/giannilarosa at sbcglobal.net From hawkview at sonic.net Sun Feb 13 20:30:02 2011 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 19:30:02 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <7adbe765-1d65-4662-b932-5b725ed720a6@blur> References: <7adbe765-1d65-4662-b932-5b725ed720a6@blur> Message-ID: <2BBD606DFA7043B69661C713FB1E6C5D@williamsonPC> WOW !!!! This is so great. Thank you! -----Original Message----- From: gianni Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 6:52 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] (no subject) Nice Al Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Al Garber To: NOBBCC Sent: 2011 Feb, Mon, 14 01:42:36 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Nobbc] (no subject) A few photos from the 2/12/2011 Valentine drive. http://albums.phanfare.com/slideshow.aspx?i=1&db=1&pw=3buf0ayE&a_id=5014114 "San Francisco is 49 square miles surrounded by reality" ........... Paul Kantner _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/giannilarosa at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From sarto477 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 13 20:44:15 2011 From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 19:44:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <239005.32255.qm@web113520.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Al, thanks for the great photos. The day could not have been any better. Sarto and Phyliss --- On Sun, 2/13/11, Al Garber wrote: From: Al Garber Subject: [Nobbc] (no subject) To: "NOBBCC" Date: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 5:42 PM A few photos from the 2/12/2011 Valentine drive. http://albums.phanfare.com/slideshow.aspx?i=1&db=1&pw=3buf0ayE&a_id=5014114 "San Francisco is 49 square miles surrounded by reality" ........... Paul Kantner _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/sarto477 at yahoo.com From gsb1159 at pacbell.net Sun Feb 13 22:04:37 2011 From: gsb1159 at pacbell.net (Greg Badano) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 21:04:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <260607.10918.qm@web180009.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Al, Thanks for the great pix of a great day. Greg --- On Sun, 2/13/11, Al Garber wrote: From: Al Garber Subject: [Nobbc] (no subject) To: "NOBBCC" Date: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 5:42 PM A few photos from the 2/12/2011 Valentine drive. http://albums.phanfare.com/slideshow.aspx?i=1&db=1&pw=3buf0ayE&a_id=5014114 "San Francisco is 49 square miles surrounded by reality" ........... Paul Kantner _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/gsb1159 at pacbell.net From gtwincams at gmail.com Mon Feb 14 10:24:52 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:24:52 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Upcoming drives Message-ID: <4D596564.8000503@gmail.com> Hi All, Saturday was lots of fun, and what a great turnout. My only regret was that I didn't have more time to talk to more people. It always seems like the first 30-60 minutes is taken up with just reconnecting with old friends, and then we're in our cars. Got a chance to chat with a few new folks at Hanna, but not as much at Sbragia, since the tables were separated. I never seem to get enough of learning about other people's cars, or what folks do for fun and employment. I'm still thinking of ideas for a BBQ where we'll have more time to get to know each other, and even the overnight idea we discussed awhile ago. John Kenner has been so generous with making his home available to us in the past, but I'm really hoping there is someone in the club who is willing to host an event at the tail of a short drive, where we can all hang out together. Trish and I have been thinking about what parks might work for this. Some of you may recall John and Ron Wheeler hosted a BBQ at the park behind Ron's shop - don't know if that space is an option again or not, but I'll check. Cheers, Greg Tatarian 1971 Lotus Elan S4 DHC 1967 Lotus Elan S3 SE FHC 1974 Triumph TR6 From rnapda at yahoo.com Mon Feb 14 10:38:15 2011 From: rnapda at yahoo.com (Richard Anderson) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:38:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] Car List In-Reply-To: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B5F8@echo01.SID.LOCAL> References: <120401.9385.qm@web180105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><4D5413C7.6000208@gmail.com> <4D5434DA.40701@sonic.net> <364352.59555.qm@web46012.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B5F8@echo01.SID.LOCAL> Message-ID: <93916.43437.qm@web46012.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi Frank, Thanks for the heads-up and it looks like a terrific event. Unfortunately my wife and I will be out of the country on vacation then. However, I will make a trip to see the Blackhawk Museum. Thanks again. Dick ________________________________ From: Frank Morris To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 1:45:05 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List Hello Dick: With all of those E-types I thought you should be aware of the 50th Anniversary celebration at the Blackhawk Museum on June 12th, 2011. Actually a three day event. I have a listed contact of Dudley Smolen at 415-939-3493 and dudlyeys at att.net Does anyone else have more info? Frank Morris -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Anderson Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:15 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List Hi Ron and All, Been out of town, here are my cars: 1967 Jag XKE Series I Roadster - 8 1973 Jag XKE Series III Roadster - 7 1973 Jag XKE Series III Roadster - 2 Would also like the list. Thanks, Dick ________________________________ From: Ron Engelhardt To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 10:56:26 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List Thanks for doing this Greg, I would like a copy. As far as items for sale, I have no problem...we're all "family" here. I guess if it gets out of hand, we can revisit the topic. There is a for sale section on our website also that may be useful. Ron 58 MGA Greg Tatarian wrote: > Hello NOBBC'ers, > > As Clif has told you, he has decided he would like to pass on the car list, now >that he's done all the hard work. I think it was very cool that Clif as a >relatively new member volunteered to jump right in and do something like this, >particularly because I personally didn't anticipate the interest that was >generated by our regular participants. Well, done, Clif, and thank you for your >efforts. Unfortunately, you're now stained with the mark of the "active member", >so you are going to get hit up for more contributions in the future! > > At Clif's request, I massaged the Excel table a little, and have made the a few >refinements; I've locked the two top rows, and put the names flush left, along >with a few other things that should enhance readability. For anyone who still >wants a copy, I can provide it in two versions; either 1997-2003 or 2007, or as >a PDF for those without Excel. For those who have already received a copy from >Clif and have corrections or changes to make, send them directly to me at >gtwincams at gmail.com and I'll take care of it. Need a copy? Email me and I'll >send you the current version. > > Ron - do you have any objection to members flogging items for sale on the list? >We've never come up with a consensus on this, but I defer to you to as >moderator. Currently, a few members have posted emails about what they want to >sell, however I could also expand on Clif's "car for sale" information by adding >"parts for sale", or simply creating a new list just for Member's cars and parts >for sale. I'm happy to regularly maintain and update the list with anything >members would want to post, however adding that info to the table would only be >useful if a new version was made available on a regular basis, which could also >be done easily. This would be a good way for members to keep track of what other >members are selling at a glance, rather than going back through old emails, etc. >What do you all think? > > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/nobbc at sonic.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rnapda at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rnapda at yahoo.com From rolquinmac at me.com Mon Feb 14 10:46:15 2011 From: rolquinmac at me.com (Roland Quintero) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:46:15 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Car List In-Reply-To: <93916.43437.qm@web46012.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <120401.9385.qm@web180105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4D5413C7.6000208@gmail.com> <4D5434DA.40701@sonic.net> <364352.59555.qm@web46012.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B5F8@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <93916.43437.qm@web46012.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello Frank, As Co-Chair of 50th Celebration, I will keep the club up to date on the event. I am preparing a new news release shortly and will send it to nobbc. Thanks for reminding me that I neglected to send the last release info. Regards, Roland phone 650-208-3684 for questions or answers??? E-types of course, But all Brits welcome... On Feb 14, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Richard Anderson wrote: > Hi Frank, > > Thanks for the heads-up and it looks like a terrific event. Unfortunately my > wife and I will be out of the country on vacation then. However, I will make a > trip to see the Blackhawk Museum. Thanks again. > > Dick > > > > ________________________________ > From: Frank Morris > To: North Bay British Car Club > Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 1:45:05 PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List > > Hello Dick: With all of those E-types I thought you should be aware of > the 50th Anniversary celebration at the Blackhawk Museum on June 12th, > 2011. Actually a three day event. I have a listed contact of Dudley > Smolen at 415-939-3493 and dudlyeys at att.net Does anyone else have more > info? > > Frank Morris > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Richard Anderson > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:15 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List > > Hi Ron and All, > > Been out of town, here are my cars: > 1967 Jag XKE Series I Roadster - 8 > 1973 Jag XKE Series III Roadster - 7 > 1973 Jag XKE Series III Roadster - 2 > Would also like the list. > > Thanks, > > Dick > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Ron Engelhardt > To: North Bay British Car Club > Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 10:56:26 AM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Car List > > Thanks for doing this Greg, I would like a copy. As far as items for > sale, I > have no problem...we're all "family" here. I guess if it gets out of > hand, we > can revisit the topic. There is a for sale section on our website also > that may > be useful. > > Ron > 58 MGA > > Greg Tatarian wrote: >> Hello NOBBC'ers, >> >> As Clif has told you, he has decided he would like to pass on the car > list, now >> that he's done all the hard work. I think it was very cool that Clif as > a >> relatively new member volunteered to jump right in and do something > like this, >> particularly because I personally didn't anticipate the interest that > was >> generated by our regular participants. Well, done, Clif, and thank you > for your >> efforts. Unfortunately, you're now stained with the mark of the "active > member", >> so you are going to get hit up for more contributions in the future! >> >> At Clif's request, I massaged the Excel table a little, and have made > the a few >> refinements; I've locked the two top rows, and put the names flush > left, along >> with a few other things that should enhance readability. For anyone who > still >> wants a copy, I can provide it in two versions; either 1997-2003 or > 2007, or as >> a PDF for those without Excel. For those who have already received a > copy from >> Clif and have corrections or changes to make, send them directly to me > at >> gtwincams at gmail.com and I'll take care of it. Need a copy? Email me and > I'll >> send you the current version. >> >> Ron - do you have any objection to members flogging items for sale on > the list? >> We've never come up with a consensus on this, but I defer to you to as >> moderator. Currently, a few members have posted emails about what they > want to >> sell, however I could also expand on Clif's "car for sale" information > by adding >> "parts for sale", or simply creating a new list just for Member's cars > and parts >> for sale. I'm happy to regularly maintain and update the list with > anything >> members would want to post, however adding that info to the table would > only be >> useful if a new version was made available on a regular basis, which > could also >> be done easily. This would be a good way for members to keep track of > what other >> members are selling at a glance, rather than going back through old > emails, etc. >> What do you all think? >> >> Cheers, >> Greg Tatarian >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/nobbc at sonic.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rnapda at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rnapda at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rolquinmac at me.com From hawkview at sonic.net Mon Feb 14 11:40:25 2011 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:40:25 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Upcoming drives In-Reply-To: <4D596564.8000503@gmail.com> References: <4D596564.8000503@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Greg, Great idea to have a little more time together. Great group of folks. Google Shiloh Regional Park. (off Shiloh Rd. N. Santa Rosa) There are BBQ, covered area, restrooms, great big parking lot, large lawn area and views. I have used this venue in the past and everyone loved it. Very easy to get to as well. Would be great and I would help organize (as long as I am in town). Deb Williamson 74 Jensen Healey -----Original Message----- From: Greg Tatarian Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 9:24 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Upcoming drives Hi All, Saturday was lots of fun, and what a great turnout. My only regret was that I didn't have more time to talk to more people. It always seems like the first 30-60 minutes is taken up with just reconnecting with old friends, and then we're in our cars. Got a chance to chat with a few new folks at Hanna, but not as much at Sbragia, since the tables were separated. I never seem to get enough of learning about other people's cars, or what folks do for fun and employment. I'm still thinking of ideas for a BBQ where we'll have more time to get to know each other, and even the overnight idea we discussed awhile ago. John Kenner has been so generous with making his home available to us in the past, but I'm really hoping there is someone in the club who is willing to host an event at the tail of a short drive, where we can all hang out together. Trish and I have been thinking about what parks might work for this. Some of you may recall John and Ron Wheeler hosted a BBQ at the park behind Ron's shop - don't know if that space is an option again or not, but I'll check. Cheers, Greg Tatarian 1971 Lotus Elan S4 DHC 1967 Lotus Elan S3 SE FHC 1974 Triumph TR6 _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From gtwincams at gmail.com Mon Feb 14 14:33:57 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 13:33:57 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Upcoming drives In-Reply-To: References: <4D596564.8000503@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D599FC5.4000407@gmail.com> Hi Deb, Thank you for that! I'll check into Shiloh RP this evening after work. Thanks also for your kind offer to help! Cheers, Greg On 2/14/2011 10:40 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote: > Hi Greg, > Great idea to have a little more time together. Great group of folks. > Google Shiloh Regional Park. (off Shiloh Rd. N. Santa Rosa) There are > BBQ, covered area, restrooms, great big parking lot, large lawn area > and views. > I have used this venue in the past and everyone loved it. Very easy > to get to as well. > Would be great and I would help organize (as long as I am in town). > Deb Williamson > 74 Jensen Healey From nobbc at sonic.net Mon Feb 14 15:40:57 2011 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:40:57 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Upcoming drives, meeting places In-Reply-To: References: <4D596564.8000503@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D59AF79.9090307@sonic.net> I thought Shiloh Park might be a good place for meeting if Bad Ass gets any more crowded. Seems like all our meeting places eventually lose appeal for one reason or another. When we first met at Bad Ass the lot was usually empty, lately it's been pretty crowded. Greg, when you check out the park, see if it would make a good meeting place for our rides. Ron 58 MGA From dawsonchurch at gmail.com Mon Feb 14 15:51:23 2011 From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com (Dawson Church) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:51:23 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Upcoming drives, meeting places In-Reply-To: <4D59AF79.9090307@sonic.net> References: <4D596564.8000503@gmail.com> <4D59AF79.9090307@sonic.net> Message-ID: I took a drive Sunday on a road I'd always wanted to try. Route 16 from Woodland to Route 20 near Clear Lake Oaks. It was a one of the most gorgeous routes I've ever seen. An hour's drive up a beautiful valley with a few small towns, lots of farmland, and rolling hills. It may be too far for a club ride, because it takes 90 minutes to get to Clearlake Oaks, and over 2 hours to get back to Santa Rosa via Woodland, but if you ever have the opportunity, you'll be richly rewarded in beauty! Dawson On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > I thought Shiloh Park might be a good place for meeting if Bad Ass gets any > more crowded. Seems like all our meeting places eventually lose appeal for > one reason or another. When we first met at Bad Ass the lot was usually > empty, lately it's been pretty crowded. Greg, when you check out the park, > see if it would make a good meeting place for our rides. > > Ron > 58 MGA > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > -- Dawson From dawsonchurch at gmail.com Mon Feb 14 15:55:13 2011 From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com (Dawson Church) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:55:13 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Upcoming drives In-Reply-To: <4D596564.8000503@gmail.com> References: <4D596564.8000503@gmail.com> Message-ID: I had the same thought. I'm happy to host. I'm in town thru March 17 then back at the end of May. So either March 12/13 or early June, are possibilities for me. Dawson On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > Hi All, > Saturday was lots of fun, and what a great turnout. My only regret was that > I didn't have more time to talk to more people. It always seems like the > first 30-60 minutes is taken up with just reconnecting with old friends, and > then we're in our cars. Got a chance to chat with a few new folks at Hanna, > but not as much at Sbragia, since the tables were separated. I never seem to > get enough of learning about other people's cars, or what folks do for fun > and employment. > I'm still thinking of ideas for a BBQ where we'll have more time to get to > know each other, and even the overnight idea we discussed awhile ago. John > Kenner has been so generous with making his home available to us in the > past, but I'm really hoping there is someone in the club who is willing to > host an event at the tail of a short drive, where we can all hang out > together. Trish and I have been thinking about what parks might work for > this. Some of you may recall John and Ron Wheeler hosted a BBQ at the park > behind Ron's shop - don't know if that space is an option again or not, but > I'll check. > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > 1971 Lotus Elan S4 DHC > 1967 Lotus Elan S3 SE FHC > 1974 Triumph TR6 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > -- Dawson From wbain at sonic.net Mon Feb 14 16:04:34 2011 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:04:34 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <83D4D76E-0887-42E0-B954-F46133E193AB@sonic.net> Great shots of the event. Sorry I couldn't make it. Lady friend's BD and we had another commitment. Cheers, Wendell On Feb 13, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Al Garber wrote: > A few photos from the 2/12/2011 Valentine drive. > > http://albums.phanfare.com/slideshow.aspx? > i=1&db=1&pw=3buf0ayE&a_id=5014114 > > > > "San Francisco is 49 square miles surrounded by > reality" ........... Paul > Kantner > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ > wbain at sonic.net From markdarley at mac.com Mon Feb 14 19:09:30 2011 From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:09:30 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <83D4D76E-0887-42E0-B954-F46133E193AB@sonic.net> References: <83D4D76E-0887-42E0-B954-F46133E193AB@sonic.net> Message-ID: <7C92F264-F4ED-44A2-90EE-CAF9682FC5D5@mac.com> Also, sorry we couldn't make it due to my Valentine's wish to go to a bee conference. Looks like you all had a great time and a great ride. I am planning on joining Andy Preston's MGOC Marin drive on Feb 26th weather permitting......see some of you there I expect. Cheers Mark Mark Darley markdarley at mac.com Mobile Phone 415 310 5252 On Feb 14, 2011, at 3:04 PM, wendell bain wrote: > Great shots of the event. Sorry I couldn't make it. Lady friend's BD > and we had another commitment. > > Cheers, > > Wendell > > On Feb 13, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Al Garber wrote: > >> A few photos from the 2/12/2011 Valentine drive. >> >> http://albums.phanfare.com/slideshow.aspx? >> i=1&db=1&pw=3buf0ayE&a_id=5014114 >> >> >> >> "San Francisco is 49 square miles surrounded by >> reality" ........... Paul >> Kantner >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ >> wbain at sonic.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ > markdarley at mac.com From nobbc at sonic.net Mon Feb 14 19:15:20 2011 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:15:20 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Video from Dawson's ride Message-ID: <4D59E1B8.3040201@sonic.net> Here's a small video taken before the ride: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc8GaMt5v20 Ron 58 MGA From bluesson at hotmail.com Wed Feb 16 14:09:13 2011 From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:09:13 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - eBay (item 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: NOBBC members: Where do I source this locally? Any help appreciated. It's used in the Grinnall Scorpion fuel sender. Thanks, Tom R Subject: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - eBay (item 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:41:53 -0800 Hey, All of my Scorps have used the 5 hole type sender. It's a common industry standard nowadays. I think you have this one. me http://cgi.ebay.com/Triumph-TR6-TR5-TR4-TR3-TR2-Vitesse-Fuel-Sender-Gasket-/ 110638424938?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c290636a#ht_1117 wt_1135 From sonomashoe at gmail.com Wed Feb 16 14:53:40 2011 From: sonomashoe at gmail.com (William Shoemaker) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:53:40 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - eBay (item 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D5C4764.2020104@gmail.com> Maybe Jordans Import Parts can order it for you. - Bill shoemaker XJ6 Jags On 2/16/2011 1:09 PM, Tom Reier wrote: > NOBBC members: Where do I source this locally? Any help appreciated. It's > used in the Grinnall Scorpion fuel sender. Thanks, Tom R > > Subject: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - eBay (item > 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:41:53 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, > > All of my Scorps have used the 5 hole type sender. It's a > common industry standard nowadays. > > I think you have this one. > > me > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Triumph-TR6-TR5-TR4-TR3-TR2-Vitesse-Fuel-Sender-Gasket-/ > 110638424938?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c290636a#ht_1117 > wt_1135 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/sonomashoe at gmail.com From cmurphy68 at hotmail.com Wed Feb 16 16:45:50 2011 From: cmurphy68 at hotmail.com (cmurphy68 at hotmail.com) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 23:45:50 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] My email Message-ID: <1176203332-1297899957-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-669499702-@bda482.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Cmurphy68 at hotmail.com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From cmurphy68 at hotmail.com Wed Feb 16 21:02:16 2011 From: cmurphy68 at hotmail.com (craig murphy) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:02:16 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Machine shop Message-ID: Hello, I'm looking for a recommendation of a good, reasonably priced machine shop or retired machinist working out of his garage for some engine work for my '65 Mini Cooper S. I need to have the main journals line-honed as well as the rod journals honed, new cam shaft bearings pressed in and possibly a light resurfacing of the block. Thanks in advance! Craig Murphy1965 Morris Cooper S From liamof at earthlink.net Wed Feb 16 22:33:41 2011 From: liamof at earthlink.net (Liam O'Flaherty) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:33:41 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Machine shop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <73FA1583-6A1F-481E-A77D-7D659BB3F476@earthlink.net> Craig, Locally I would recommend JNW Engine and Machine in Santa Rosa on Piner road near Harbor Freight. I have also heard good things about Norm's in Petaluma. Since you have a mini you may want to look into Seven Enterprises in Auburn. they specialize in mini's. I had them do the machine work on my bugeye 1275 engine a few years ago. Liam 56 mga 59 bugeye 60 bugeye On Feb 16, 2011, at 8:02 PM, craig murphy wrote: > Hello, > I'm looking for a recommendation of a good, reasonably priced machine shop or > retired machinist working out of his garage for some engine work for my '65 > Mini Cooper S. I need to have the main journals line-honed as well as the rod > journals honed, new cam shaft bearings pressed in and possibly a light > resurfacing of the block. > Thanks in advance! > Craig Murphy1965 Morris Cooper S > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/liamof at earthlink.net From gtwincams at gmail.com Wed Feb 16 22:36:13 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (gtwincams at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 05:36:13 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] Machine shop Message-ID: Craig, I have used JNW engine on Piner with good success for Lotus projects. I also held a tech session at Jerry's shop for club members, who got a good introduction to his work and capabilities. I know of two other members who have used his services since the tech session. All of your needs are well within his abilities. Cost is reasonable but not cut-rate. Tell him Greg Tatarian with the Lotus twincams, and from the NOBBC, sent you. Greg ------Original Message------ From: craig murphy Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net To: North Bay British Car Club ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Machine shop Sent: Feb 16, 2011 8:02 PM Hello, I'm looking for a recommendation of a good, reasonably priced machine shop or retired machinist working out of his garage for some engine work for my '65 Mini Cooper S. I need to have the main journals line-honed as well as the rod journals honed, new cam shaft bearings pressed in and possibly a light resurfacing of the block. Thanks in advance! Craig Murphy1965 Morris Cooper S _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/gtwincams at gmail.com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com Thu Feb 17 09:23:30 2011 From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com (sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:23:30 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: NEW ROLLS ROYCE///MARIN-SONOMA CONCOURS 2011///PHOENIX INTL. RACEWAY NEWSLETTER Message-ID: <6EE08B8CD92F4328B2AAABBF4F2165F9@mike> Well different subject, but his very nice and british to boot. check out the new Rolls Royce. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: RACER BUD To: RACER BUD Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:23 PM Subject: Fw: NEW ROLLS ROYCE///MARIN-SONOMA CONCOURS 2011///PHOENIX INTL. RACEWAY NEWSLETTER Hi Gang...More Stuff to check out!... Racer Bud Beautiful new ROLLS ROYCE....the Cutting Edge.. http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2009/04/24/458188.4-lg.jpg MARIN SONOMA CONCOURS 2011 http://www.marinsonomaconcours.org/home/index.php thanks to PHOENIX INTERNATIONAL RACEWAY for the following https://host31.agsdc.net/aprimo/OutboundMessage.aspx?O=b08086b9ca80ee553f4055 55af973217&T=b333208886639fd5&D=b9ca57b2fbe8cb42458807853387983f6a0f6be5ccdab 113&M=b333208886639fd5&MSGID=cc8e6ac1d92fdfe99a209edf607024f78e7e08f5af64ee17 &A=70681905a9522702127421cad858059c&I=fac183a0ba5b5b3d8c66b6e1396414c0&S=c0fa 0110ee2d8faac5ce027c62b2cee3 From hawkview at sonic.net Thu Feb 17 10:36:41 2011 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 09:36:41 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: NEW ROLLS ROYCE///MARIN-SONOMA CONCOURS 2011///PHOENIX INTL. RACEWAY NEWSLETTER In-Reply-To: <6EE08B8CD92F4328B2AAABBF4F2165F9@mike> References: <6EE08B8CD92F4328B2AAABBF4F2165F9@mike> Message-ID: <1045EB7FCDBF4235928B6345B2328315@williamsonPC> We have attended the Palo Alto Concours a couple of times but last year went to the Marin-Sonoma Concours. The Marin-Sonoma was a much better event in our opinion. More and better cars, a far superior venue, and the pond with some great boats. Parking is a plus as well along with it being local. We highly recommend this show and will attend again this year. Clif and Deborah 74 JH -----Original Message----- From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:23 AM To: nobbc Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: NEW ROLLS ROYCE///MARIN-SONOMA CONCOURS 2011///PHOENIX INTL. RACEWAY NEWSLETTER Well different subject, but his very nice and british to boot. check out the new Rolls Royce. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: RACER BUD To: RACER BUD Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:23 PM Subject: Fw: NEW ROLLS ROYCE///MARIN-SONOMA CONCOURS 2011///PHOENIX INTL. RACEWAY NEWSLETTER Hi Gang...More Stuff to check out!... Racer Bud Beautiful new ROLLS ROYCE....the Cutting Edge.. http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2009/04/24/458188.4-lg.jpg MARIN SONOMA CONCOURS 2011 http://www.marinsonomaconcours.org/home/index.php thanks to PHOENIX INTERNATIONAL RACEWAY for the following https://host31.agsdc.net/aprimo/OutboundMessage.aspx?O=b08086b9ca80ee553f4055 55af973217&T=b333208886639fd5&D=b9ca57b2fbe8cb42458807853387983f6a0f6be5ccdab 113&M=b333208886639fd5&MSGID=cc8e6ac1d92fdfe99a209edf607024f78e7e08f5af64ee17 &A=70681905a9522702127421cad858059c&I=fac183a0ba5b5b3d8c66b6e1396414c0&S=c0fa 0110ee2d8faac5ce027c62b2cee3 _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com Thu Feb 17 12:23:45 2011 From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com (sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:23:45 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: NEW ELECTRIC PORSCHE BOXSTER///DAYTONA SPEEDWAY///24 HOURS OF LEMONS LIVE WEBCAST Message-ID: <514B51499AFC4E2E90BC5404DB6C8EA3@mike> ----- Original Message ----- From: RACER BUD To: RACER BUD Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:32 AM Subject: Fw: NEW ELECTRIC PORSCHE BOXSTER///DAYTONA SPEEDWAY///24 HOURS OF LEMONS LIVE WEBCAST thanks to JEFF 'ALWAYS OUT TO LUNCH' PRICE for the following news on the new ELECTRIC PORSCHE BOXSTER. http://www.planet-9.com/news-items/54209-porsche-boxster-e-prototype-unveiled .html thanks to DAYTONA INTL. SPEEDWAY for the following. https://host31.agsdc.net/aprimo/OutboundMessage.aspx?O=0d550d12a970b9852cefe4 46fb29f3ef&T=b333208886639fd5&D=b9ca57b2fbe8cb42458807853387983f6a0f6be5ccdab 113&M=b333208886639fd5&MSGID=6f6d7ebeec870a61936e1ef0ce445d68e162e29f690e36bb &A=70681905a9522702127421cad858059c&I=dcaa5555918f35a5bfd614b2a880d044&S=98e6 096b02f0d914b5ece9a747c33555 Thanks to 24 HOURS OF LEMONS for the following 2011 SEASON OPENER AT CMP: LIVE WEBCAST If you're worried that this weekend's Southern Discomfort race will be as wet and freezing as last year's, don't be: The always-totally-reliable Weather.com shows sunshine and 70s. But if you'd still rather check out the race from the comfort of your couch, the TrackGeeks are hosting another live webcast of the event. Just click here for the video stream--you can also sign up for a Ustream account and join the live chat forum. (You know, so you can add things like, "Hey! Look at those idiots!") NEW HAMPSHIRE DEADLINE LESS THAN TWO WEEKS AWAY Hey, Yankees--the deadline to enter the first-ever LeMons at New Hampshire Motor Speedway is Saturday, Feb 26. For event info, click here; to enter the race click here. Cheers, Nick Nick Pon, Associate Perpetrator 24 HOURS OF LeMONS 5675-C Horton St, Emeryville CA 94608 510.655.5980 x22 (Nick direct) ) 2011, DriversDoor Inc, as if anyone cared Forward email This email was sent to budscars at comcast.net by nick at 24hoursoflemons.com | Update Profile/Email Address | Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribeT | Privacy Policy. 24 Hours of LeMons | 5675 Horton Street | Suite C | Emeryville | CA | 94608 From gtwincams at gmail.com Thu Feb 17 13:34:37 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:34:37 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Ron Hickman has died Message-ID: <4D5D865D.4050705@gmail.com> FYI - from Channelonlin.tv: The inventor Ron Hickman has died in Jersey. Mr Hickman famously invented the Black and Decker Workmate in the 1970s. It came about as a by-product of his work as a car designer - he was the chief road car designer with Lotus and created the Lotus Elan. At first, Ron struggled to find a firm willing to take on his workmate invention, but eventually the product went global as the perfect addition for any DIY enthusiast. It is used mainly for precision cutting of wood. The device was so successful that many others attempted to copy it. That resulted in patent protection actions in courts around the world. After moving to Jersey in the late 70s - he'd previously honeymooned in the island - Ron put some of his personal wealth into a design factory where more inventions were spawned, but none of them was as successful as the workmate. The St Brelade resident, who was 78, suffered a fall five months ago and his health began to deteriorate in recent weeks. He died in hospital this morning. Ron is survived by his wife Helen and children Karen, Jamie and Marcus. Ron had a life-long love of cars and was a member of the Jersey Old Motor Club. St Peter Constable John Refault, who was president of the club for three years, paid this tribute. (remaining content not available). Greg Tatarian Lotus Elan x 2 From gtwincams at gmail.com Thu Feb 17 14:17:49 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:17:49 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] BBQ/Social planning Message-ID: <4D5D907D.2060307@gmail.com> Hi Folks, Here are some of the options I'm working on: Gather at a City Park. This will cost money for reserving the BBQ area - up to $110+ Gather at a County Park. This will cost money to park - $6/car. John and Julia Kenner are able to make their spread available in April or May, but I would ask for more member participation for setup, food and cleanup. Mike Gianandrea may be able to host us at his shop - to be determined. We have another couple of members who may be able to host us at their homes, to be determined. I have yet to speak to Ron Wheeler to see if the park behind his shop is available again. Looks like we have options, some of which will cost some money, while others will mean being hosted by generous members. All will involve some degree of participation by attendees, but I'll try to make that minimal. I'll keep on this as I get the time. Cheers, Greg Tatarian From wbain at sonic.net Thu Feb 17 14:32:04 2011 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:32:04 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - eBay (item 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You could make this with Permatex, The Blue Goo. You could cut it out of cork. It may not be die cut and as pretty as this one, but it will work. On Feb 16, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Tom Reier wrote: > NOBBC members: Where do I source this locally? Any help > appreciated. It's > used in the Grinnall Scorpion fuel sender. Thanks, Tom R > > Subject: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - > eBay (item > 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:41:53 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, > > All of my Scorps have used the 5 hole type sender. It's a > common industry standard nowadays. > > I think you have this one. > > me > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Triumph-TR6-TR5-TR4-TR3-TR2-Vitesse-Fuel- > Sender-Gasket-/ > 110638424938? > pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c290636a#ht_1117 > wt_1135 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ > wbain at sonic.net From wbain at sonic.net Thu Feb 17 14:46:11 2011 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:46:11 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - eBay (item 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <85551CB4-CD86-428B-AEF6-BB1D50DBAF8D@sonic.net> Moss Motors has this for $.85 plus shipping which will probably be more than the part. This is the six hole gasket. From below I'm not sure what you want. Moss Part # Cost 293-415 $0.85 GASKET Note: Included with Sending Unit Wendell On Feb 16, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Tom Reier wrote: > NOBBC members: Where do I source this locally? Any help > appreciated. It's > used in the Grinnall Scorpion fuel sender. Thanks, Tom R > > Subject: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - > eBay (item > 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:41:53 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, > > All of my Scorps have used the 5 hole type sender. It's a > common industry standard nowadays. > > I think you have this one. > > me > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Triumph-TR6-TR5-TR4-TR3-TR2-Vitesse-Fuel- > Sender-Gasket-/ > 110638424938? > pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c290636a#ht_1117 > wt_1135 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ > wbain at sonic.net From cmurphy68 at hotmail.com Thu Feb 17 15:38:43 2011 From: cmurphy68 at hotmail.com (cmurphy68 at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 22:38:43 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] Machine shop In-Reply-To: <20110217060143.04EE9187665@autox.team.net> References: <20110217060143.04EE9187665@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <446893277-1297982330-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1386505030-@bda482.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Thanks for the replies. I spoke to jerry at JNW and got a quote for the work, and also at Seven Enterprises in Auburn. Seven had a lower quote, even accounting for shipping both ways (over 100# with block, crank for sizing, pistons and rods). Jack at Seven said they can usually avoid having to hone the crank saddles and caps but would check them for free with the other work being done. Also included surfacing the block, which I didn't ask JNW to quote, but it could use it. Since Seven is a Mini specialist, it seems like an easy decision. Good to know about JNW for future local machining needs though! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: gtwincams at gmail.com Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 05:36:13 To: North Bay British Car Club Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Machine shop Craig, I have used JNW engine on Piner with good success for Lotus projects. I also held a tech session at Jerry's shop for club members, who got a good introduction to his work and capabilities. I know of two other members who have used his services since the tech session. All of your needs are well within his abilities. Cost is reasonable but not cut-rate. Tell him Greg Tatarian with the Lotus twincams, and from the NOBBC, sent you. Greg ------Original Message------ From: craig murphy Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net To: North Bay British Car Club ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Machine shop Sent: Feb 16, 2011 8:02 PM Hello, I'm looking for a recommendation of a good, reasonably priced machine shop or retired machinist working out of his garage for some engine work for my '65 Mini Cooper S. I need to have the main journals line-honed as well as the rod journals honed, new cam shaft bearings pressed in and possibly a light resurfacing of the block. Thanks in advance! Craig Murphy1965 Morris Cooper S _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/gtwincams at gmail.com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/cmurphy68 at hotmail.com From jkenner at tamcab.com Thu Feb 17 16:57:07 2011 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:57:07 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket In-Reply-To: <85551CB4-CD86-428B-AEF6-BB1D50DBAF8D@sonic.net> References: <85551CB4-CD86-428B-AEF6-BB1D50DBAF8D@sonic.net> Message-ID: <006f01cbcefe$641da2f0$2c58e8d0$@com> Tripod Tom, I have the 6 hole gasket for a '64 Triumph Herald right here in my hand. Probably won't be installing it until Saturday if you want to make a copy. It's probably the same one, but I don't know. Call the 415 # if you want to copy it. Or if you can't make it to Sebastopol let me know and I'll trace it for you. JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of wendell bain Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:46 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] FW: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - eBay (item 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) Moss Motors has this for $.85 plus shipping which will probably be more than the part. This is the six hole gasket. From below I'm not sure what you want. Moss Part # Cost 293-415 $0.85 GASKET Note: Included with Sending Unit Wendell On Feb 16, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Tom Reier wrote: > NOBBC members: Where do I source this locally? Any help > appreciated. It's > used in the Grinnall Scorpion fuel sender. Thanks, Tom R > > Subject: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - > eBay (item > 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:41:53 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, > > All of my Scorps have used the 5 hole type sender. It's a > common industry standard nowadays. > > I think you have this one. > > me > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Triumph-TR6-TR5-TR4-TR3-TR2-Vitesse-Fuel- > Sender-Gasket-/ > 110638424938? > pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c290636a#ht_1117 > wt_1135 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ > wbain at sonic.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jkenner at tamcab.com From gtwincams at gmail.com Thu Feb 17 17:00:54 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:00:54 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Machine shop In-Reply-To: <446893277-1297982330-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1386505030-@bda482.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <20110217060143.04EE9187665@autox.team.net> <446893277-1297982330-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1386505030-@bda482.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <4D5DB6B6.4050205@gmail.com> Cool. Glad Liam suggested Seven Ent., ,as I had forgotten about them. It's often good to avoid honing main saddles and caps if possible, based on many comments to me by machinists, because cumulative removal of material can affect bearing fit. However, the benefit of honing is that it doesn't shift the crankshaft axis up into the block, because unlike line-boring, honing does not entail removal of height first, then boring to back to round. What else are you doing to the motor? Head, pistons, etc. Cheers, Greg Tatarian On 2/17/2011 2:38 PM, cmurphy68 at hotmail.com wrote: > Thanks for the replies. I spoke to jerry at JNW and got a quote for the work, and also at Seven Enterprises in Auburn. Seven had a lower quote, even accounting for shipping both ways (over 100# with block, crank for sizing, pistons and rods). Jack at Seven said they can usually avoid having to hone the crank saddles and caps but would check them for free with the other work being done. Also included surfacing the block, which I didn't ask JNW to quote, but it could use it. Since Seven is a Mini specialist, it seems like an easy decision. Good to know about JNW for future local machining needs though! > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From andypreston at sbcglobal.net Thu Feb 17 18:49:51 2011 From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (Andy Preston) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:49:51 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Machine shop In-Reply-To: <446893277-1297982330-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1386505030-@bda482.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <20110217060143.04EE9187665@autox.team.net> <446893277-1297982330-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1386505030-@bda482.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <9D5E53FE4D3645C08E75D10AC135CCED@Bonusroom> Hi Craig, I was going to recommend Norm's auto machine shop in Petaluma. He is very familiar with A and B series engines and has done all the machine work on my MGA Coupe and B GT. Very good work, reasonable and also local. Check him out before you ship 100# to Auburn, although Seven Enterprises are renowned for mini engines. Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of cmurphy68 at hotmail.com Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:39 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Machine shop Thanks for the replies. I spoke to jerry at JNW and got a quote for the work, and also at Seven Enterprises in Auburn. Seven had a lower quote, even accounting for shipping both ways (over 100# with block, crank for sizing, pistons and rods). Jack at Seven said they can usually avoid having to hone the crank saddles and caps but would check them for free with the other work being done. Also included surfacing the block, which I didn't ask JNW to quote, but it could use it. Since Seven is a Mini specialist, it seems like an easy decision. Good to know about JNW for future local machining needs though! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: gtwincams at gmail.com Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 05:36:13 To: North Bay British Car Club Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Machine shop Craig, I have used JNW engine on Piner with good success for Lotus projects. I also held a tech session at Jerry's shop for club members, who got a good introduction to his work and capabilities. I know of two other members who have used his services since the tech session. All of your needs are well within his abilities. Cost is reasonable but not cut-rate. Tell him Greg Tatarian with the Lotus twincams, and from the NOBBC, sent you. Greg ------Original Message------ From: craig murphy Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net To: North Bay British Car Club ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Machine shop Sent: Feb 16, 2011 8:02 PM Hello, I'm looking for a recommendation of a good, reasonably priced machine shop or retired machinist working out of his garage for some engine work for my '65 Mini Cooper S. I need to have the main journals line-honed as well as the rod journals honed, new cam shaft bearings pressed in and possibly a light resurfacing of the block. Thanks in advance! Craig Murphy1965 Morris Cooper S _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/gtwincams at gmail.com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/cmurphy68 at hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/andypreston at sbcglobal.net From cmurphy68 at hotmail.com Thu Feb 17 19:03:54 2011 From: cmurphy68 at hotmail.com (craig murphy) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:03:54 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Machine shop In-Reply-To: <4D5DB6B6.4050205@gmail.com> References: <20110217060143.04EE9187665@autox.team.net>, <446893277-1297982330-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1386505030-@bda482.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>, <4D5DB6B6.4050205@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, boring into the main block saddles on an A-series can be the death of the engine as the timing gear and timing chain tension is non-adjustable and is based on the crankshaft always sitting in the same position (not moving up or down). Usually they would mill the flat surface of the caps, mount them up and bore into them with the cutting tool just touching the bottom of the block saddle, but not removing any material from the block side. Head was done by Selby and Sons a few years ago (ported, matched and opened up for larger valves and rocker pads re-shaped). This round started with first gear going out last summer so I pulled it apart to fix that. I have an original early S 3 synchro gearbox and I quickly discovered that to find the parts to rebuild my box was going to cost exponentially more (assuming I could find all of the parts in the first place) than upgrading to a newer 4 synchro box. I bought a good used former Minimania-built 4 synchro remote change box and did some modifications to be able to make it the same ratios (using the same replacement gears) as the original S box. I then lightened the flywheel and pressure plate and did some modifications to flatten the diaphragm spring, which will put less wear and tear on the clutch and crank thrust washers. I sent that assembly to Seven Enterprises who did the balancing last month. Up until this point I still wasn't planning on touching the motor because the previous owner in Australia said that he had rebuilt it shortly before I bought it. That was in 2002 though. It ran fine, but smoked a little when cold, and there were signs when I had it opened up that it might not have been rebuilt to a very high standard if a all, and even though the bearings were in very good shape, I thought it would be risky to be this far into it and then put it back together without going the rest of the way. This way I will have a base line where I know it was rebuilt by me fresh on x/xx/xx date. I did a light hone of the cylinders, new rings, main and rod bearings as well as the work Seven is going to do. I also lightened and balanced the rod caps per a Mini performance manual I have to smooth out the idle and reduce rotating mass. The rest of my gearbox parts just landed in the US from England and the big brown truck should deliver those on Monday. Cheers, Craig > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:00:54 -0800 > From: gtwincams at gmail.com > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Machine shop > > Cool. Glad Liam suggested Seven Ent., ,as I had forgotten about them. > > It's often good to avoid honing main saddles and caps if possible, based > on many comments to me by machinists, because cumulative removal of > material can affect bearing fit. However, the benefit of honing is that > it doesn't shift the crankshaft axis up into the block, because unlike > line-boring, honing does not entail removal of height first, then boring > to back to round. > > What else are you doing to the motor? Head, pistons, etc. > > Cheers, > > Greg Tatarian > > > On 2/17/2011 2:38 PM, cmurphy68 at hotmail.com wrote: > > Thanks for the replies. I spoke to jerry at JNW and got a quote for the work, and also at Seven Enterprises in Auburn. Seven had a lower quote, even accounting for shipping both ways (over 100# with block, crank for sizing, pistons and rods). Jack at Seven said they can usually avoid having to hone the crank saddles and caps but would check them for free with the other work being done. Also included surfacing the block, which I didn't ask JNW to quote, but it could use it. Since Seven is a Mini specialist, it seems like an easy decision. Good to know about JNW for future local machining needs though! > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/cmurphy68 at hotmail.com From gtwincams at gmail.com Thu Feb 17 20:12:17 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:12:17 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Machine shop In-Reply-To: References: <20110217060143.04EE9187665@autox.team.net>, <446893277-1297982330-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1386505030-@bda482.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>, <4D5DB6B6.4050205@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D5DE391.5080709@gmail.com> On 2/17/2011 6:03 PM, craig murphy wrote: > Usually they would mill the flat surface of the caps, mount them up > and bore into them with the cutting tool just touching the bottom of the block > saddle, but not removing any material from the block side. As you may know, that is often not possible, particularly if the block saddles are not true. In that case, or when repositioning the crank higher in the block will have a very detrimental effect, the block saddle and main cap are bored oversize, such as 0.015". This necessitates the use of bearings that are oversize on the OD, and if the crank is ground, undersize on the ID. The block in our Elan S4 was bored like this, because I swapped the round-shouldered caps with square caps from another block; honing would not have been sufficient to make them align properly. I made that swap to gain lower end strength and with the other mods to the engine, permit higher revs. > I bought a good used former Minimania-built 4 synchro remote change box > and did some modifications to be able to make it the same ratios (using the > same replacement gears) as the original S box. Other than the change from originality, would you consider this a desirable upgrade? I like having synchros in first, but one does learn to get around that in a 3 synchro box... > I thought it would be risky to be this far into it and then > put it back together without going the rest of the way. This way I will have > a base line where I know it was rebuilt by me fresh on x/xx/xx date. Oh yes, that is always more comforting than guessing what may fail. And it can be really amazing what you find when you open up a motor or 'box that even a supposedly reputable rebuilder has worked on. > The rest of my gearbox parts just landed in the US from England and the big > brown truck should deliver those on Monday. The gearbox parts for our Alfa (only about 2/3 of what it needed) cost over $800 - gearbox parts can get expensive very fast. But what a great feeling it is when you've replaced all the wear items in a 'box and it shifts like butter. Good luck with the rebuild. Wanna hold a tech session on reassembling your motor? Cheers, Greg > Cheers, > > Craig From markdarley at mac.com Thu Feb 17 20:46:01 2011 From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:46:01 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] MGC GT automatic going for under $8000 in 15 minutes! In-Reply-To: <4D5DE391.5080709@gmail.com> References: <20110217060143.04EE9187665@autox.team.net> <446893277-1297982330-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1386505030-@bda482.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <4D5DB6B6.4050205@gmail.com> <4D5DE391.5080709@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1A8C3507-1FF7-4C45-8FFA-96242FEF4077@mac.com> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-1968-MGC-GT-Roadster-Silver-Good-Condition-1-of-1500_W0QQitemZ250771698726QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6314QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Mark Darley markdarley at mac.com 415 381 5452 On Feb 17, 2011, at 7:12 PM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > On 2/17/2011 6:03 PM, craig murphy wrote: >> Usually they would mill the flat surface of the caps, mount them up >> and bore into them with the cutting tool just touching the bottom >> of the block >> saddle, but not removing any material from the block side. > As you may know, that is often not possible, particularly if the > block saddles are not true. In that case, or when repositioning the > crank higher in the block will have a very detrimental effect, the > block saddle and main cap are bored oversize, such as 0.015". This > necessitates the use of bearings that are oversize on the OD, and if > the crank is ground, undersize on the ID. The block in our Elan S4 > was bored like this, because I swapped the round-shouldered caps > with square caps from another block; honing would not have been > sufficient to make them align properly. I made that swap to gain > lower end strength and with the other mods to the engine, permit > higher revs. >> I bought a good used former Minimania-built 4 synchro remote >> change box >> and did some modifications to be able to make it the same ratios >> (using the >> same replacement gears) as the original S box. > Other than the change from originality, would you consider this a > desirable upgrade? I like having synchros in first, but one does > learn to get around that in a 3 synchro box... >> I thought it would be risky to be this far into it and then >> put it back together without going the rest of the way. This way I >> will have >> a base line where I know it was rebuilt by me fresh on x/xx/xx date. > Oh yes, that is always more comforting than guessing what may fail. > And it can be really amazing what you find when you open up a motor > or 'box that even a supposedly reputable rebuilder has worked on. >> The rest of my gearbox parts just landed in the US from England and >> the big >> brown truck should deliver those on Monday. > The gearbox parts for our Alfa (only about 2/3 of what it needed) > cost over $800 - gearbox parts can get expensive very fast. But what > a great feeling it is when you've replaced all the wear items in a > 'box and it shifts like butter. > > Good luck with the rebuild. Wanna hold a tech session on > reassembling your motor? > > Cheers, > Greg > > >> Cheers, >> >> Craig > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/markdarley at mac.com From bluesson at hotmail.com Thu Feb 17 20:49:25 2011 From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:49:25 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - eBay (item 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) In-Reply-To: <85551CB4-CD86-428B-AEF6-BB1D50DBAF8D@sonic.net> References: , , <85551CB4-CD86-428B-AEF6-BB1D50DBAF8D@sonic.net> Message-ID: Wendell and all... I appreciate your help. The problem is, Moss Motors won't ship less than ten dollars worth of product, plus freight. Tom R > From: wbain at sonic.net > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:46:11 -0800 > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] FW: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - eBay (item 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) > > Moss Motors has this for $.85 plus shipping which will probably be more > than the part. This is the six hole gasket. From below I'm not sure > what you > want. > > Moss Part # Cost > > 293-415 $0.85 > > GASKET > > Note: > Included with Sending Unit > > Wendell > > > > > On Feb 16, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Tom Reier wrote: > > > NOBBC members: Where do I source this locally? Any help > > appreciated. It's > > used in the Grinnall Scorpion fuel sender. Thanks, Tom R > > > > Subject: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - > > eBay (item > > 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) > > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:41:53 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, > > > > All of my Scorps have used the 5 hole type sender. It's a > > common industry standard nowadays. > > > > I think you have this one. > > > > me > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Triumph-TR6-TR5-TR4-TR3-TR2-Vitesse-Fuel- > > Sender-Gasket-/ > > 110638424938? > > pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c290636a#ht_1117 > > wt_1135 > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ > > wbain at sonic.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/bluesson at hotmail.com From cmurphy68 at hotmail.com Thu Feb 17 20:50:02 2011 From: cmurphy68 at hotmail.com (craig murphy) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:50:02 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Machine shop In-Reply-To: <9D5E53FE4D3645C08E75D10AC135CCED@Bonusroom> References: <20110217060143.04EE9187665@autox.team.net>, <446893277-1297982330-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1386505030-@bda482.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>, <9D5E53FE4D3645C08E75D10AC135CCED@Bonusroom> Message-ID: Hi Andy, Nothing is written in stone yet, so I will give Norm's a call tomorrow! Thank you. Seven has the best rates and most experience of the 4 shops I've talked to so far, but Norm's was not on my list. Local would be better. UPS quoted $92 to ship my engine, crank and rods up to Seven, so that adds to the bottom line. Seven's experience and reputation is worth something to me, but Norm's could win me over if the price is right. It sounds like he has A series experience. Regards, Craig > From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:49:51 -0800 > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Machine shop > > Hi Craig, I was going to recommend Norm's auto machine shop in Petaluma. He > is very familiar with A and B series engines and has done all the machine > work on my MGA Coupe and B GT. Very good work, reasonable and also local. > Check him out before you ship 100# to Auburn, although Seven Enterprises are > renowned for mini engines. > > Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of cmurphy68 at hotmail.com > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:39 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Machine shop > > Thanks for the replies. I spoke to jerry at JNW and got a quote for the > work, and also at Seven Enterprises in Auburn. Seven had a lower quote, > even accounting for shipping both ways (over 100# with block, crank for > sizing, pistons and rods). Jack at Seven said they can usually avoid having > to hone the crank saddles and caps but would check them for free with the > other work being done. Also included surfacing the block, which I didn't ask > JNW to quote, but it could use it. Since Seven is a Mini specialist, it > seems like an easy decision. Good to know about JNW for future local > machining needs though! > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: gtwincams at gmail.com > Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 05:36:13 > To: North Bay British Car Club > Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Machine shop > > Craig, > I have used JNW engine on Piner with good success for Lotus projects. I also > held a tech session at Jerry's shop for club members, who got a good > introduction to his work and capabilities. I know of two other members who > have used his services since the tech session. > All of your needs are well within his abilities. Cost is reasonable but not > cut-rate. Tell him Greg Tatarian with the Lotus twincams, and from the > NOBBC, sent you. > Greg > ------Original Message------ > From: craig murphy > Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > To: North Bay British Car Club > ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: [Nobbc] Machine shop > Sent: Feb 16, 2011 8:02 PM > > Hello, > I'm looking for a recommendation of a good, reasonably priced machine shop > or > retired machinist working out of his garage for some engine work for my '65 > Mini Cooper S. I need to have the main journals line-honed as well as the > rod > journals honed, new cam shaft bearings pressed in and possibly a light > resurfacing of the block. > Thanks in advance! > Craig Murphy1965 Morris Cooper S > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/gtwincams at gmail.com > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/cmurphy68 at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/andypreston at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/cmurphy68 at hotmail.com From bluesson at hotmail.com Thu Feb 17 20:50:21 2011 From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:50:21 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - eBay (item 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) In-Reply-To: <85551CB4-CD86-428B-AEF6-BB1D50DBAF8D@sonic.net> References: , , <85551CB4-CD86-428B-AEF6-BB1D50DBAF8D@sonic.net> Message-ID: Wendell and all... I appreciate your help. The problem is, Moss Motors won't ship less than ten dollars worth of product, plus freight. Tom R > From: wbain at sonic.net > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:46:11 -0800 > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] FW: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - eBay (item 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) > > Moss Motors has this for $.85 plus shipping which will probably be more > than the part. This is the six hole gasket. From below I'm not sure > what you > want. > > Moss Part # Cost > > 293-415 $0.85 > > GASKET > > Note: > Included with Sending Unit > > Wendell > > > > > On Feb 16, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Tom Reier wrote: > > > NOBBC members: Where do I source this locally? Any help > > appreciated. It's > > used in the Grinnall Scorpion fuel sender. Thanks, Tom R > > > > Subject: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - > > eBay (item > > 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) > > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:41:53 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, > > > > All of my Scorps have used the 5 hole type sender. It's a > > common industry standard nowadays. > > > > I think you have this one. > > > > me > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Triumph-TR6-TR5-TR4-TR3-TR2-Vitesse-Fuel- > > Sender-Gasket-/ > > 110638424938? > > pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c290636a#ht_1117 > > wt_1135 > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ > > wbain at sonic.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/bluesson at hotmail.com From cmurphy68 at hotmail.com Thu Feb 17 21:22:58 2011 From: cmurphy68 at hotmail.com (craig murphy) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:22:58 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Machine shop In-Reply-To: <4D5DE391.5080709@gmail.com> References: <20110217060143.04EE9187665@autox.team.net>, , <446893277-1297982330-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1386505030-@bda482.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>, , <4D5DB6B6.4050205@gmail.com>, , <4D5DE391.5080709@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm having the bore alignment checked because of my swap from stock studs and bolts to higher torque ARP hardware. Jack said it is rare for the mains to need line honing unless something catastrophic happened previously. He said rod bores almost always needed touching up after switching to ARP. I had no problems driving with my 3 synchro box over the last 8 years and was completely used to it. I think having 4 synchro will be nice, especially being able to use first gear when slowing down without rev-matching, or hearing my wife grind into first the few times she drives the car and forgets about using second gear to slow down first gear. I've kept the 3 synchro box, so if I come across a first and reverse gear (and some of the other worn parts), I'll collect them over time and perhaps rebuild the box to have as a spare. -this is what everyone says I'm sure, but it probably rarely happens in real life. The 4 synch box was $600 and I've spent another $500 on gears and rebuild parts. It was another case of probably didn't need a full rebuild, but I didn't know the history so I did it. A lot of the parts I'm replacing look like they are in very good shape (bearings, baulk rings, forks, etc) but I'd hate to have to tear it down again in a year because something decided to go out. Re: tech session; I'm no expert rebuilder. In fact Haynes and an Australian service manual get about equal face time to the gearbox and motor. I guess I'm saying that I wouldn't want to teach anyone else how to do what I'm doing for the first time on this motor, but if others want to contribute their knowledge and experience, it could make for an interesting and fun session. Cheers, Craig > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:12:17 -0800 > From: gtwincams at gmail.com > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Machine shop > > On 2/17/2011 6:03 PM, craig murphy wrote: > > Usually they would mill the flat surface of the caps, mount them up > > and bore into them with the cutting tool just touching the bottom of the block > > saddle, but not removing any material from the block side. > As you may know, that is often not possible, particularly if the block > saddles are not true. In that case, or when repositioning the crank > higher in the block will have a very detrimental effect, the block > saddle and main cap are bored oversize, such as 0.015". This > necessitates the use of bearings that are oversize on the OD, and if the > crank is ground, undersize on the ID. The block in our Elan S4 was bored > like this, because I swapped the round-shouldered caps with square caps > from another block; honing would not have been sufficient to make them > align properly. I made that swap to gain lower end strength and with the > other mods to the engine, permit higher revs. > > I bought a good used former Minimania-built 4 synchro remote change box > > and did some modifications to be able to make it the same ratios (using the > > same replacement gears) as the original S box. > Other than the change from originality, would you consider this a > desirable upgrade? I like having synchros in first, but one does learn > to get around that in a 3 synchro box... > > I thought it would be risky to be this far into it and then > > put it back together without going the rest of the way. This way I will have > > a base line where I know it was rebuilt by me fresh on x/xx/xx date. > Oh yes, that is always more comforting than guessing what may fail. And > it can be really amazing what you find when you open up a motor or 'box > that even a supposedly reputable rebuilder has worked on. > > The rest of my gearbox parts just landed in the US from England and the big > > brown truck should deliver those on Monday. > The gearbox parts for our Alfa (only about 2/3 of what it needed) cost > over $800 - gearbox parts can get expensive very fast. But what a great > feeling it is when you've replaced all the wear items in a 'box and it > shifts like butter. > > Good luck with the rebuild. Wanna hold a tech session on reassembling > your motor? > > Cheers, > Greg > > > > Cheers, > > > > Craig > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/cmurphy68 at hotmail.com From liamof at earthlink.net Thu Feb 17 21:27:19 2011 From: liamof at earthlink.net (Liam O'Flaherty) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:27:19 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - eBay (item 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) In-Reply-To: References: , , <85551CB4-CD86-428B-AEF6-BB1D50DBAF8D@sonic.net> Message-ID: <32387C23-6E8F-4A6D-9B44-DAF27E481BDD@earthlink.net> Tom, Did you try the Little British Car company. Moss might not but a reseller may. Worth a try and save the tax. Liam On Feb 17, 2011, at 7:50 PM, Tom Reier wrote: > Wendell and all... I appreciate your help. The problem is, Moss Motors won't > ship less than ten dollars worth of product, plus freight. > > Tom R > >> From: wbain at sonic.net >> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:46:11 -0800 >> To: nobbc at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] FW: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender > Gasket - eBay (item 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) >> >> Moss Motors has this for $.85 plus shipping which will probably be more >> than the part. This is the six hole gasket. From below I'm not sure >> what you >> want. >> >> Moss Part # Cost >> >> 293-415 $0.85 >> >> GASKET >> >> Note: >> Included with Sending Unit >> >> Wendell >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 16, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Tom Reier wrote: >> >>> NOBBC members: Where do I source this locally? Any help >>> appreciated. It's >>> used in the Grinnall Scorpion fuel sender. Thanks, Tom R >>> >>> Subject: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - >>> eBay (item >>> 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) >>> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:41:53 -0800 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hey, >>> >>> All of my Scorps have used the 5 hole type sender. It's a >>> common industry standard nowadays. >>> >>> I think you have this one. >>> >>> me >>> >>> http://cgi.ebay.com/Triumph-TR6-TR5-TR4-TR3-TR2-Vitesse-Fuel- >>> Sender-Gasket-/ >>> 110638424938? >>> pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c290636a#ht_1117 >>> wt_1135 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ >>> wbain at sonic.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/bluesson at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/liamof at earthlink.net From nobbc at sonic.net Fri Feb 18 00:14:21 2011 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 23:14:21 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - eBay (item 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) In-Reply-To: <32387C23-6E8F-4A6D-9B44-DAF27E481BDD@earthlink.net> References: , , <85551CB4-CD86-428B-AEF6-BB1D50DBAF8D@sonic.net> <32387C23-6E8F-4A6D-9B44-DAF27E481BDD@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4D5E1C4D.2070201@sonic.net> Second this! LBCarco.com is the place to buy Moss parts at a discount and they offer great service. Every order comes with some shortbread also. Ron 58 MGA Liam O'Flaherty wrote: > Tom, > Did you try the Little British Car company. > Moss might not but a reseller may. > Worth a try and save the tax. > Liam > > On Feb 17, 2011, at 7:50 PM, Tom Reier wrote: From desmo93 at att.net Fri Feb 18 00:15:40 2011 From: desmo93 at att.net (marcus) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 23:15:40 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - eBay (item 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) References: , , <85551CB4-CD86-428B-AEF6-BB1D50DBAF8D@sonic.net> Message-ID: <3568A45B1B93431BB4E40989E4B6DBB5@marcuse8622318> If you want a cork gasket, I have an extra one in my parts bin you can have. Marcus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Reier" To: Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] FW: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - eBay (item 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) > Wendell and all... I appreciate your help. The problem is, Moss Motors > won't > ship less than ten dollars worth of product, plus freight. > > Tom R > >> From: wbain at sonic.net >> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:46:11 -0800 >> To: nobbc at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] FW: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender > Gasket - eBay (item 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) >> >> Moss Motors has this for $.85 plus shipping which will probably be more >> than the part. This is the six hole gasket. From below I'm not sure >> what you >> want. >> >> Moss Part # Cost >> >> 293-415 $0.85 >> >> GASKET >> >> Note: >> Included with Sending Unit >> >> Wendell >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 16, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Tom Reier wrote: >> >> > NOBBC members: Where do I source this locally? Any help >> > appreciated. It's >> > used in the Grinnall Scorpion fuel sender. Thanks, Tom R >> > >> > Subject: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - >> > eBay (item >> > 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) >> > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:41:53 -0800 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Hey, >> > >> > All of my Scorps have used the 5 hole type sender. It's a >> > common industry standard nowadays. >> > >> > I think you have this one. >> > >> > me >> > >> > http://cgi.ebay.com/Triumph-TR6-TR5-TR4-TR3-TR2-Vitesse-Fuel- >> > Sender-Gasket-/ >> > 110638424938? >> > pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c290636a#ht_1117 >> > wt_1135 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Nobbc at autox.team.net >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ >> > wbain at sonic.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/bluesson at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/desmo93 at att.net From gtwincams at gmail.com Fri Feb 18 09:06:11 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:06:11 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Machine shop In-Reply-To: References: <20110217060143.04EE9187665@autox.team.net>, , <446893277-1297982330-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1386505030-@bda482.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>, , <4D5DB6B6.4050205@gmail.com>, , <4D5DE391.5080709@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D5E98F3.8060403@gmail.com> On 2/17/2011 8:22 PM, craig murphy wrote: > I'm having the bore alignment checked because of my swap from stock studs and > bolts to higher torque ARP hardware. I second that - seen it firsthand. > Jack said it is rare for the mains to > need line honing unless something catastrophic happened previously. He said > rod bores almost always needed touching up after switching to ARP. Again, I've seen it happen. > Re: tech session; I'm no expert rebuilder. In fact Haynes and an Australian > service manual get about equal face time to the gearbox and motor. I guess > I'm saying that I wouldn't want to teach anyone else how to do what I'm doing > for the first time on this motor, but if others want to contribute their > knowledge and experience, it could make for an interesting and fun session. OK, I understand. I've held tech sessions on various subjects and have been asked to do one on engine assembly, but though I've built about 12 motors now, I'm not a professional either, and it can be distracting to have an audience when you're trying to get through a challenging part of the process. A couple of years ago I set up a web camera so my Dad could watch me build one of my Lotus twin cam motors and a couple gearboxes, and he had so many questions I had to cut off the sound while I was taking measurements. Live audiences don't have mute buttons...;-) Cheers, Greg > Cheers, > Craig From gtwincams at gmail.com Fri Feb 18 09:09:30 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:09:30 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] MGC GT automatic going for under $8000 in 15 minutes! In-Reply-To: <1A8C3507-1FF7-4C45-8FFA-96242FEF4077@mac.com> References: <20110217060143.04EE9187665@autox.team.net> <446893277-1297982330-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1386505030-@bda482.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <4D5DB6B6.4050205@gmail.com> <4D5DE391.5080709@gmail.com> <1A8C3507-1FF7-4C45-8FFA-96242FEF4077@mac.com> Message-ID: <4D5E99BA.9020201@gmail.com> Oh my... Unless this thing is a Flintstones car with the floorboards rusted through (even then) and the sills popping with rust, someone is very pleased with themselves, and it's not the seller, I'd bet. Bargain of a lifetime, it seems. Greg Tatarian On 2/17/2011 7:46 PM, Mark Darley wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-1968-MGC-GT-Roadster-Silver-Good-Condition-1-of-1500_W0QQitemZ250771698726QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6314QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Mark Darley > markdarley at mac.com > 415 381 5452 From markdarley at mac.com Fri Feb 18 09:49:25 2011 From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:49:25 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] MGC GT automatic going for under $8000 in 15 minutes! In-Reply-To: <4D5E99BA.9020201@gmail.com> References: <20110217060143.04EE9187665@autox.team.net> <446893277-1297982330-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1386505030-@bda482.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <4D5DB6B6.4050205@gmail.com> <4D5DE391.5080709@gmail.com> <1A8C3507-1FF7-4C45-8FFA-96242FEF4077@mac.com> <4D5E99BA.9020201@gmail.com> Message-ID: <72283BEB-96D0-4E52-93AE-86F6D50506BF@mac.com> Well it went for under $7000 and it wasn't me after all. The automatic didn't seem quite right for an MG. I couldn't quite bring myself to buy two cars in two years without telling my wife first, although she survived the surprise arrival of the MGA! Perhaps I should have..... Mark Darley markdarley at mac.com 415 381 5452 On Feb 18, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > Oh my... Unless this thing is a Flintstones car with the floorboards > rusted through (even then) and the sills popping with rust, someone > is very pleased with themselves, and it's not the seller, I'd bet. > Bargain of a lifetime, it seems. > Greg Tatarian > > > On 2/17/2011 7:46 PM, Mark Darley wrote: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-1968-MGC-GT-Roadster-Silver-Good-Condition-1-of-1500_W0QQitemZ250771698726QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6314QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >> >> Mark Darley >> markdarley at mac.com >> 415 381 5452 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/markdarley at mac.com From bluesson at hotmail.com Fri Feb 18 12:29:23 2011 From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:29:23 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - eBay (item 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) In-Reply-To: References: , , , , <85551CB4-CD86-428B-AEF6-BB1D50DBAF8D@sonic.net>, Message-ID: Hi all, Mark Grinnall notified me this morning that he's mailing two from the UK, saying he could mail them for less than a pound sterling. So I'm all set...or will be by this time next week. It's not like I'm in a hurry to drive a top free vehicle these days. Thanks again to all who offered help and especially Marcus, who this morning offered up a spare gasket. Hopefully I'll see you all at the next club drive. Tom R > From: bluesson at hotmail.com > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:50:21 -0800 > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] FW: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - eBay (item 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) > > Wendell and all... I appreciate your help. The problem is, Moss Motors won't > ship less than ten dollars worth of product, plus freight. > > Tom R > > > From: wbain at sonic.net > > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:46:11 -0800 > > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] FW: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender > Gasket - eBay (item 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) > > > > Moss Motors has this for $.85 plus shipping which will probably be more > > than the part. This is the six hole gasket. From below I'm not sure > > what you > > want. > > > > Moss Part # Cost > > > > 293-415 $0.85 > > > > GASKET > > > > Note: > > Included with Sending Unit > > > > Wendell > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Tom Reier wrote: > > > > > NOBBC members: Where do I source this locally? Any help > > > appreciated. It's > > > used in the Grinnall Scorpion fuel sender. Thanks, Tom R > > > > > > Subject: Triumph TR6 TR5 TR4 TR3 TR2 Vitesse Fuel Sender Gasket - > > > eBay (item > > > 110638424938 end time Feb-19-11 10:47:05 PST) > > > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:41:53 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, > > > > > > All of my Scorps have used the 5 hole type sender. It's a > > > common industry standard nowadays. > > > > > > I think you have this one. > > > > > > me > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Triumph-TR6-TR5-TR4-TR3-TR2-Vitesse-Fuel- > > > Sender-Gasket-/ > > > 110638424938? > > > pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c290636a#ht_1117 > > > wt_1135 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ > > > wbain at sonic.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/bluesson at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/bluesson at hotmail.com From tsthresh at hotmail.com Sat Feb 19 15:07:13 2011 From: tsthresh at hotmail.com (Tim Thresh) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:07:13 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Old Speckled Hen ride? Message-ID: o;?Great ride by Dawson last week-end. I have to apologize that we ended up ahead of the caravan ( needed gas in Healdsburg) and sat at a separate table. During the week I visited HOPMONK TAVERN in Sonoma, and discovered from the owner Dean Biersch (think co-founder of Gordon Biersch Brewing Co) that they have OSH on draught ! He gave me a sample in a to-go glass, and an invitation to bring the NOBCC back there sometime. See www.hopmonk.com, there is another location in Sebastopol which I have to check out. I would like to organize something, perhaps in May. Ron mentioned Mt Veeder Road whilst we were talking b should be no Napa cops there? There seems to be a movement for a picnic, and that could not be at Hopmonk. So is the group interested in a ride to a bpubb-like destination for a lunch and a pint in the British tradition, sometime soon?. If so, I will arrange a date and organize for a bcar-showb reservation in Hopmonkbs parking lot. Dean says they have hosted the Porsche club before (known as slumming it by real Brit car fans). Meanwhile I have to make another quick trip to the UK late March so will be forced to drink real ale again......oh well. See you all again soon . Tim 1958 MGA (one of at least 4 red-uns in the club now, it seems) From sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com Sat Feb 19 15:38:34 2011 From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com (sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:38:34 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: HOUSE APPROVES SUSPENDING EPA E15///HEMMINGS..TUCKER CARIOCA///VINTAGE JAPANESE PENTAX COMMERCIAL///VETTEL F1 BARCELONA///NASCAR DENNY HAMLIN///GREYSTONE BEVERLY HILLS CONCOURS Message-ID: <9111B05DB851448D9B6931F03F774C59@mike> ----- Original Message ----- From: RACER BUD To: RACER BUD Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 2:04 PM Subject: Fw: HOUSE APPROVES SUSPENDING EPA E15///HEMMINGS..TUCKER CARIOCA///VINTAGE JAPANESE PENTAX COMMERCIAL///VETTEL F1 BARCELONA///NASCAR DENNY HAMLIN///GREYSTONE BEVERLY HILLS CONCOURS Here's some stuff, Gang... HOUSE APPROVES SAN SUPPORTED MEASURE TO SUSPEND EPA E15 http://echo.bluehornet.com/hostedemail/email.htm?h=738c2af18c2ad358f630c5d25f c5db54&CID=1936385174&ch=F6A7476508D4AE80FCE371B25CEC0DB6 HEMMINGS BLOG..TUCKER CARIOCA AND MORE http://blog.hemmings.com/ VINTAGE JAPANESE PENTAX COMMERCIAL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rj5-49IW_U F1 VETTEL STILL FASTEST IN BARCELONA http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89566 DENNY HAMLIN GUNNING FOR EARLY SEASON WINS http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89543 Thanks to JEFF BRYNAN for the following info on the 2nd Annual Greystone Mansion concours in Beverly Hills, Ca. http://www.beverlyhills.org/attractions/greystone/greystone_concours_deleganc e/default.asp Racer Bud From jkenner at tamcab.com Sat Feb 19 16:20:25 2011 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:20:25 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] racer bud Message-ID: <001501cbd08b$974fc4d0$c5ef4e70$@com> Who is Racer Bud???????? JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] From nobbc at sonic.net Sat Feb 19 16:24:10 2011 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:24:10 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Old Speckled Hen ride? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D60511A.1030305@sonic.net> Sounds good Tim. There is a picnic area in a park behind the barracks that we have used in the past and sandwiches are available at the Cheese factory (among other places). So how does Trinity, Mt. Veeder, a visit to Hopmonk and picnic in the park sound for May or ???. Ron 58 MGA Tim Thresh wrote: > o;?Great ride by Dawson last week-end. I have to apologize that we ended up > ahead of the caravan ( needed gas in Healdsburg) and sat at a separate table. > > During the week I visited HOPMONK TAVERN in Sonoma, and discovered from the > owner Dean Biersch (think co-founder of Gordon Biersch Brewing Co) that they > have OSH on draught ! He gave me a sample in a to-go glass, and an invitation > to bring the NOBCC back there sometime. See www.hopmonk.com, there is another > location in Sebastopol which I have to check out. > > I would like to organize something, perhaps in May. Ron mentioned Mt Veeder > Road whilst we were talking b should be no Napa cops there? There seems to > be a movement for a picnic, and that could not be at Hopmonk. So is the group > interested in a ride to a bpubb-like destination for a lunch and a pint in > the British tradition, sometime soon?. > > If so, I will arrange a date and organize for a bcar-showb reservation in > Hopmonkbs parking lot. Dean says they have hosted the Porsche club before > (known as slumming it by real Brit car fans). > > Meanwhile I have to make another quick trip to the UK late March so will be > forced to drink real ale again......oh well. > > See you all again soon . > Tim > 1958 MGA (one of at least 4 red-uns in the club now, it seems) > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/nobbc at sonic.net From mvg1 at att.net Sat Feb 19 16:59:51 2011 From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:59:51 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Old Speckled Hen ride? References: Message-ID: <7605CBD248FD4A3C90A3078AA68F5E32@mike> WHAT, BEER? I'm in. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Thresh" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 2:07 PM Subject: [Nobbc] Old Speckled Hen ride? > o;?Great ride by Dawson last week-end. I have to apologize that we ended > up > ahead of the caravan ( needed gas in Healdsburg) and sat at a separate > table. > > During the week I visited HOPMONK TAVERN in Sonoma, and discovered from > the > owner Dean Biersch (think co-founder of Gordon Biersch Brewing Co) that > they > have OSH on draught ! He gave me a sample in a to-go glass, and an > invitation > to bring the NOBCC back there sometime. See www.hopmonk.com, there is > another > location in Sebastopol which I have to check out. > > I would like to organize something, perhaps in May. Ron mentioned Mt > Veeder > Road whilst we were talking b should be no Napa cops there? There seems > to > be a movement for a picnic, and that could not be at Hopmonk. So is the > group > interested in a ride to a b pubb -like destination for a lunch and a pint > in > the British tradition, sometime soon?. > > If so, I will arrange a date and organize for a b car-showb reservation > in > Hopmonkbs parking lot. Dean says they have hosted the Porsche club before > (known as slumming it by real Brit car fans). > > Meanwhile I have to make another quick trip to the UK late March so will > be > forced to drink real ale again......oh well. > > See you all again soon . > Tim > 1958 MGA (one of at least 4 red-uns in the club now, it seems) > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at att.net From gtwincams at gmail.com Sat Feb 19 18:49:17 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:49:17 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: HOUSE APPROVES SUSPENDING EPA E15///HEMMINGS..TUCKER CARIOCA///VINTAGE JAPANESE PENTAX COMMERCIAL///VETTEL F1 BARCELONA///NASCAR DENNY HAMLIN///GREYSTONE BEVERLY HILLS CONCOURS In-Reply-To: <9111B05DB851448D9B6931F03F774C59@mike> References: <9111B05DB851448D9B6931F03F774C59@mike> Message-ID: <4D60731D.50207@gmail.com> Thanks for the links, Mike. Greg Tatarian From bluesson at hotmail.com Sun Feb 20 17:52:45 2011 From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 16:52:45 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Old Speckled Hen ride? In-Reply-To: <7605CBD248FD4A3C90A3078AA68F5E32@mike> References: , <7605CBD248FD4A3C90A3078AA68F5E32@mike> Message-ID: I know this is going to go over like Lucas electrics on a dark night, but: A club full of very unique British cars, drinking and driving. As the Brits would say, "BRILLIANT!" I'm being extremely sarcastic. When I finally show up in the Grinnall S3, I'm going to call for a show of hands as I ask loudly, "Anyone who's had a DUI, raise your hand!" I'll tell my story if that's what you want to hear. But you probably don't want to hear it. After all, it can't happen to YOU. The concept of a car club, going driving on club events, and consuming alcohol in any quantity before or during the club drives, is a fool's errand imo. It's not a matter of IF, but WHEN it causes a problem for one to several members, their vehicles, and possibly some innocent civilians. On a personal note, the concept of driving my very unique British specialist car, one of less than 360 in the world, in concert with a pack of drinking drivers, is just something I'm not willing to do. So just count me out on any drive that involves drinking in any quantity and then driving. You folks are really looking for trouble. Go ahead, laugh at me now...but don't call me for bail or complain to me when you have to do that expensive, time consuming and EMBARRASSING "legal cakewalk". That fifteen grand or so you'll be out will pay for a lot of Brit car parts. Been there ONCE...8/11/84, and NEVER going there again. Tom Reier p.s. I know, it can't happen to YOU. You're special. Tell it to the LEO as you're doing that test. > From: mvg1 at att.net > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:59:51 -0800 > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Old Speckled Hen ride? > > WHAT, BEER? I'm in. > > Michael > 64 TR4 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Thresh" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 2:07 PM > Subject: [Nobbc] Old Speckled Hen ride? > > > > o;?Great ride by Dawson last week-end. I have to apologize that we ended > > up > > ahead of the caravan ( needed gas in Healdsburg) and sat at a separate > > table. > > > > During the week I visited HOPMONK TAVERN in Sonoma, and discovered from > > the > > owner Dean Biersch (think co-founder of Gordon Biersch Brewing Co) that > > they > > have OSH on draught ! He gave me a sample in a to-go glass, and an > > invitation > > to bring the NOBCC back there sometime. See www.hopmonk.com, there is > > another > > location in Sebastopol which I have to check out. > > > > I would like to organize something, perhaps in May. Ron mentioned Mt > > Veeder > > Road whilst we were talking b should be no Napa cops there? There seems > > to > > be a movement for a picnic, and that could not be at Hopmonk. So is the > > group > > interested in a ride to a bpubb-like destination for a lunch and a pint > > in > > the British tradition, sometime soon?. > > > > If so, I will arrange a date and organize for a bcar-showb reservation > > in > > Hopmonkbs parking lot. Dean says they have hosted the Porsche club before > > (known as slumming it by real Brit car fans). > > > > Meanwhile I have to make another quick trip to the UK late March so will > > be > > forced to drink real ale again......oh well. > > > > See you all again soon . > > Tim > > 1958 MGA (one of at least 4 red-uns in the club now, it seems) > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at att.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/bluesson at hotmail.com From hawkview at sonic.net Sun Feb 20 18:21:46 2011 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:21:46 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Iridium Spark Plugs In-Reply-To: <4D60731D.50207@gmail.com> References: <9111B05DB851448D9B6931F03F774C59@mike> <4D60731D.50207@gmail.com> Message-ID: Has anybody out there had any experience with Iridium spark plugs? From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Sun Feb 20 19:19:29 2011 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 18:19:29 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Old Speckled Hen ride? In-Reply-To: References: <7605CBD248FD4A3C90A3078AA68F5E32@mike> Message-ID: Good advice, mate. I've never been run in and don't expect to. At home it's a different story...I'm not laffin! Drive safe and sober. Cheers, Rj On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Tom Reier wrote: > I know this is going to go over like Lucas electrics on a dark night, > but: > A club full of very unique British cars, drinking and driving. As the > Brits > would say, "BRILLIANT!" > I'm being extremely sarcastic. > When I finally show up in the Grinnall S3, I'm going to call for a show > of > hands as I ask loudly, "Anyone who's had a DUI, raise your hand!" I'll tell > my > story if that's what you want to hear. But you probably don't want to hear > it. > After all, it can't happen to YOU. > The concept of a car club, going driving on club events, and consuming > alcohol in any quantity before or during the club drives, is a fool's > errand > imo. It's not a matter of IF, but WHEN it causes a problem for one to > several > members, their vehicles, and possibly some innocent civilians. On a > personal > note, the concept of driving my very unique British specialist car, one of > less than 360 in the world, in concert with a pack of drinking drivers, is > just something I'm not willing to do. So just count me out on any drive > that > involves drinking in any quantity and then driving. You folks are really > looking for trouble. Go ahead, laugh at me now...but don't call me for bail > or > complain to me when you have to do that expensive, time consuming and > EMBARRASSING "legal cakewalk". That fifteen grand or so you'll be out will > pay for a lot of Brit car parts. Been there ONCE...8/11/84, and NEVER > going > there again. Tom Reier > p.s. I know, it can't happen to YOU. You're special. Tell it to the LEO as > you're doing that test. > > > From: mvg1 at att.net > > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > > Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:59:51 -0800 > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Old Speckled Hen ride? > > > > WHAT, BEER? I'm in. > > > > Michael > > 64 TR4 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tim Thresh" > > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 2:07 PM > > Subject: [Nobbc] Old Speckled Hen ride? > > > > > > > o;?Great ride by Dawson last week-end. I have to apologize that we > ended > > > up > > > ahead of the caravan ( needed gas in Healdsburg) and sat at a separate > > > table. > > > > > > During the week I visited HOPMONK TAVERN in Sonoma, and discovered from > > > the > > > owner Dean Biersch (think co-founder of Gordon Biersch Brewing Co) that > > > they > > > have OSH on draught ! He gave me a sample in a to-go glass, and an > > > invitation > > > to bring the NOBCC back there sometime. See www.hopmonk.com, there is > > > another > > > location in Sebastopol which I have to check out. > > > > > > I would like to organize something, perhaps in May. Ron mentioned Mt > > > Veeder > > > Road whilst we were talking b should be no Napa cops there? There > seems > > > to > > > be a movement for a picnic, and that could not be at Hopmonk. So is the > > > group > > > interested in a ride to a b pubb -like destination for a lunch and a > pint > > > in > > > the British tradition, sometime soon?. > > > > > > If so, I will arrange a date and organize for a b car-showb > reservation > > > in > > > Hopmonkb s parking lot. Dean says they have hosted the Porsche club > before > > > (known as slumming it by real Brit car fans). > > > > > > Meanwhile I have to make another quick trip to the UK late March so > will > > > be > > > forced to drink real ale again......oh well. > > > > > > See you all again soon . > > > Tim > > > 1958 MGA (one of at least 4 red-uns in the club now, it seems) > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at att.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/bluesson at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/apexbrit2 at gmail.com From hawkview at sonic.net Sun Feb 20 19:23:54 2011 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 18:23:54 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Old Speckled Hen ride? In-Reply-To: References: , <7605CBD248FD4A3C90A3078AA68F5E32@mike> Message-ID: <04D5F11E12ED48D1874439A79C1D0A6E@williamsonPC> Hey, my Lucas system works fine, but: Note a drinker myself, especially beer, I sure see what you are saying Tom. I have no DUI's on my record, not even a ticket in the last 20 years. But I don't believe a single beer along with lunch over an hour or so is going to put anybody in that category. But since that potential exist, perhaps a key drop would be appropriate for those who might get past the limit. At our last ride we stopped at Hanna winery for some wine tasting, and I am sure their were a few that consumed at least a full glass of wine with all the samples. And at Sbrazia it was pretty much the same thing. And I don't recall seeing anybody falling down the stairs. I recognize your concern but think we are adult enough to know the consequences of being drunk behind the wheel, and that we would all be on guard to protect any of our friends that might over do it. I do thank you for bringing that potential to everybody's attention. Awareness is everything. Sincerely, Clif and Deborah 74 JH -----Original Message----- From: Tom Reier Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 4:52 PM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Old Speckled Hen ride? I know this is going to go over like Lucas electrics on a dark night, but: A club full of very unique British cars, drinking and driving. As the Brits would say, "BRILLIANT!" I'm being extremely sarcastic. When I finally show up in the Grinnall S3, I'm going to call for a show of hands as I ask loudly, "Anyone who's had a DUI, raise your hand!" I'll tell my story if that's what you want to hear. But you probably don't want to hear it. After all, it can't happen to YOU. The concept of a car club, going driving on club events, and consuming alcohol in any quantity before or during the club drives, is a fool's errand imo. It's not a matter of IF, but WHEN it causes a problem for one to several members, their vehicles, and possibly some innocent civilians. On a personal note, the concept of driving my very unique British specialist car, one of less than 360 in the world, in concert with a pack of drinking drivers, is just something I'm not willing to do. So just count me out on any drive that involves drinking in any quantity and then driving. You folks are really looking for trouble. Go ahead, laugh at me now...but don't call me for bail or complain to me when you have to do that expensive, time consuming and EMBARRASSING "legal cakewalk". That fifteen grand or so you'll be out will pay for a lot of Brit car parts. Been there ONCE...8/11/84, and NEVER going there again. Tom Reier p.s. I know, it can't happen to YOU. You're special. Tell it to the LEO as you're doing that test. > From: mvg1 at att.net > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:59:51 -0800 > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Old Speckled Hen ride? > > WHAT, BEER? I'm in. > > Michael > 64 TR4 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Thresh" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 2:07 PM > Subject: [Nobbc] Old Speckled Hen ride? > > > > o;?Great ride by Dawson last week-end. I have to apologize that we ended > > up > > ahead of the caravan ( needed gas in Healdsburg) and sat at a separate > > table. > > > > During the week I visited HOPMONK TAVERN in Sonoma, and discovered from > > the > > owner Dean Biersch (think co-founder of Gordon Biersch Brewing Co) that > > they > > have OSH on draught ! He gave me a sample in a to-go glass, and an > > invitation > > to bring the NOBCC back there sometime. See www.hopmonk.com, there is > > another > > location in Sebastopol which I have to check out. > > > > I would like to organize something, perhaps in May. Ron mentioned Mt > > Veeder > > Road whilst we were talking b should be no Napa cops there? There seems > > to > > be a movement for a picnic, and that could not be at Hopmonk. So is the > > group > > interested in a ride to a b pubb -like destination for a lunch and a > > pint > > in > > the British tradition, sometime soon?. > > > > If so, I will arrange a date and organize for a b car-showb reservation > > in > > Hopmonkbs parking lot. Dean says they have hosted the Porsche club before > > (known as slumming it by real Brit car fans). > > > > Meanwhile I have to make another quick trip to the UK late March so will > > be > > forced to drink real ale again......oh well. > > > > See you all again soon . > > Tim > > 1958 MGA (one of at least 4 red-uns in the club now, it seems) > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at att.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/bluesson at hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From jkenner at tamcab.com Sun Feb 20 21:11:09 2011 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 20:11:09 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] drinking and driving Message-ID: <001401cbd17d$5f8cc7d0$1ea65770$@com> Bravo Tom!!!!!!!!!! I'm with you. We are a club with no insurance and any little accident , specially involving alcohol, could be disastrous for our membership. Ask one of the lawyers in the club what would happen. So go by yourselves to the pub but not as a club. JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] From tsthresh at hotmail.com Sun Feb 20 21:58:54 2011 From: tsthresh at hotmail.com (Tim Thresh) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 20:58:54 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Old Speckled Hen ride? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ?So I have to apologize to the Californians and lawyers amongst us, who believe that the NOBCC is a club, with a legal identity. I will plan to go and have a beer again at Hopmonk sometime at leisure . I will ask my dear wife to drive me home as she did last week when we had had several tasters of wine, and then Dean offered me a 1/4 glass of OSH to sample. I handed her the keys. Now the issue is , she has never, and I suspect will never drive the MGA so we will go sometime in our Honda Civic LX 2000. At least the original design for the Civic was the BMC Austin Allegro or something in the early 70's !! That way those who worry about these things can sleep easy. See you all at Infineon in April when we can sign our forms and "not worry" Cheers, Tim -----Original Message----- From: Tim Thresh Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 2:07 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Old Speckled Hen ride? Great ride by Dawson last week-end. I have to apologize that we ended up ahead of the caravan ( needed gas in Healdsburg) and sat at a separate table. During the week I visited HOPMONK TAVERN in Sonoma, and discovered from the owner Dean Biersch (think co-founder of Gordon Biersch Brewing Co) that they have OSH on draught ! He gave me a sample in a to-go glass, and an invitation to bring the NOBCC back there sometime. See www.hopmonk.com, there is another location in Sebastopol which I have to check out. I would like to organize something, perhaps in May. Ron mentioned Mt Veeder Road whilst we were talking b should be no Napa cops there? There seems to be a movement for a picnic, and that could not be at Hopmonk. So is the group interested in a ride to a b pubb -like destination for a lunch and a pint in the British tradition, sometime soon?. If so, I will arrange a date and organize for a b car-showb reservation in Hopmonkbs parking lot. Dean says they have hosted the Porsche club before (known as slumming it by real Brit car fans). Meanwhile I have to make another quick trip to the UK late March so will be forced to drink real ale again......oh well. See you all again soon . Tim 1958 MGA (one of at least 4 red-uns in the club now, it seems) _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/tsthresh at hotmail.com From mvg1 at att.net Mon Feb 21 11:11:52 2011 From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:11:52 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Old Speckled Hen ride? References: , <7605CBD248FD4A3C90A3078AA68F5E32@mike> Message-ID: <708C57C3EA5E49D7A74FA530187F0B42@mike> Hi Tom, I have to apologise for my hasty reply (WHAT, BEER, I'm in.) to Tim's post about a ride and meet at Hopmonk tavern, I forgot include the usual (LOL). But as responsible adults and british car enthusiasts, we have made many rides to destinations where we stopped and had lunch, and often have a beer or a glass of wine for lunch. I have yet to one of our members get out of hand, and I have not felt unsafe with any driver in line behind me, even with my usual co-pilot grandson with me. I am confident that we would all behave at the pub, and I believe all would like to see the Grinnell S3 out there with us, and you would be safe. I would encourage you to join us on the rides to any destination. Tim, if you decide to go to Hopmonk, please post the time and Boo Boo and I will be happy to join you, and hopefully some other members will as well, in the parking lot so my grandson can attend and we can gather and view our beloved LBC's. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Reier" To: Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Old Speckled Hen ride? > I know this is going to go over like Lucas electrics on a dark night, > but: > A club full of very unique British cars, drinking and driving. As the > Brits > would say, "BRILLIANT!" > I'm being extremely sarcastic. > When I finally show up in the Grinnall S3, I'm going to call for a show > of > hands as I ask loudly, "Anyone who's had a DUI, raise your hand!" I'll > tell my > story if that's what you want to hear. But you probably don't want to hear > it. > After all, it can't happen to YOU. > The concept of a car club, going driving on club events, and consuming > alcohol in any quantity before or during the club drives, is a fool's > errand > imo. It's not a matter of IF, but WHEN it causes a problem for one to > several > members, their vehicles, and possibly some innocent civilians. On a > personal > note, the concept of driving my very unique British specialist car, one of > less than 360 in the world, in concert with a pack of drinking drivers, is > just something I'm not willing to do. So just count me out on any drive > that > involves drinking in any quantity and then driving. You folks are really > looking for trouble. Go ahead, laugh at me now...but don't call me for > bail or > complain to me when you have to do that expensive, time consuming and > EMBARRASSING "legal cakewalk". That fifteen grand or so you'll be out > will > pay for a lot of Brit car parts. Been there ONCE...8/11/84, and NEVER > going > there again. Tom Reier > p.s. I know, it can't happen to YOU. You're special. Tell it to the LEO as > you're doing that test. > >> From: mvg1 at att.net >> To: nobbc at autox.team.net >> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:59:51 -0800 >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Old Speckled Hen ride? >> >> WHAT, BEER? I'm in. >> >> Michael >> 64 TR4 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tim Thresh" >> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 2:07 PM >> Subject: [Nobbc] Old Speckled Hen ride? >> >> >> > o;?Great ride by Dawson last week-end. I have to apologize that we >> > ended >> > up >> > ahead of the caravan ( needed gas in Healdsburg) and sat at a separate >> > table. >> > >> > During the week I visited HOPMONK TAVERN in Sonoma, and discovered from >> > the >> > owner Dean Biersch (think co-founder of Gordon Biersch Brewing Co) that >> > they >> > have OSH on draught ! He gave me a sample in a to-go glass, and an >> > invitation >> > to bring the NOBCC back there sometime. See www.hopmonk.com, there is >> > another >> > location in Sebastopol which I have to check out. >> > >> > I would like to organize something, perhaps in May. Ron mentioned Mt >> > Veeder >> > Road whilst we were talking b should be no Napa cops there? There >> > seems >> > to >> > be a movement for a picnic, and that could not be at Hopmonk. So is the >> > group >> > interested in a ride to a b pubb -like destination for a lunch and a >> > pint >> > in >> > the British tradition, sometime soon?. >> > >> > If so, I will arrange a date and organize for a b car-showb >> > reservation >> > in >> > Hopmonkbs parking lot. Dean says they have hosted the Porsche club > before >> > (known as slumming it by real Brit car fans). >> > >> > Meanwhile I have to make another quick trip to the UK late March so >> > will >> > be >> > forced to drink real ale again......oh well. >> > >> > See you all again soon . >> > Tim >> > 1958 MGA (one of at least 4 red-uns in the club now, it seems) >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Nobbc at autox.team.net >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at att.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/bluesson at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at att.net From mvg1 at att.net Mon Feb 21 12:44:27 2011 From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:44:27 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: PETALUMA SPEEDWAY///CSRG ENTRY OPEN FOR MG RE-UNION///DAYTONA 500///PEYOTE TRIUMPH TR3 RACE VIDEO Message-ID: Hey Hey Everyone, Check out the link at the bottom and watch the Peyote(?) / TR3 race at Portland, then celebrate the results with an Old Speckled Hen, (not some Peyote). This is classic, enjoy. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: RACER BUD To: RACER BUD Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 10:20 AM Subject: Fw: PETALUMA SPEEDWAY///CSRG ENTRY OPEN FOR MG RE-UNION///DAYTONA 500///PEYOTE TRIUMPH TR3 RACE VIDEO Here's some stuff Gang...Don't miss the In car video of Peyote Special...very informative...bottom link.. Racer Bud PETALUMA SPEEDWAY RULES, SCHEDULE, REGISTRATION POSTED http://www.petaluma-speedway.com/ ENTRY OPEN FOR 1ST 2011 CSRG RACE ..INFINEON APRIL 1-3 http://csrgracing.org/ ROOKIE TREVOR BAYNE & WOOD BROTHERS WIN DAYTONA 500 http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89593 Thanks to BILL 'PEYOTE' BABCOCK for this in car video of him racing his PEYOTE SPECIAL...It's very informative for those who are new at/getting ready for racing http://www.xgeez.com/2011/02/peyote-races-with-the-big-boys/ From wbain at sonic.net Mon Feb 21 17:17:35 2011 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:17:35 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Old Speckled Hen ride? In-Reply-To: <4D60511A.1030305@sonic.net> References: <4D60511A.1030305@sonic.net> Message-ID: Sounds great... Especially the beer part. I have been to Hopmonk. Great place. Cheers, Wendell On Feb 19, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > Sounds good Tim. There is a picnic area in a park behind the > barracks that we have used in the past and sandwiches are available > at the Cheese factory (among other places). So how does Trinity, > Mt. Veeder, a visit to Hopmonk and picnic in the park sound for May > or ???. > > Ron > 58 MGA > > Tim Thresh wrote: >> o;?Great ride by Dawson last week-end. I have to apologize that we >> ended up >> ahead of the caravan ( needed gas in Healdsburg) and sat at a >> separate table. >> During the week I visited HOPMONK TAVERN in Sonoma, and discovered >> from the >> owner Dean Biersch (think co-founder of Gordon Biersch Brewing Co) >> that they >> have OSH on draught ! He gave me a sample in a to-go glass, and an >> invitation >> to bring the NOBCC back there sometime. See www.hopmonk.com, >> there is another >> location in Sebastopol which I have to check out. >> I would like to organize something, perhaps in May. Ron mentioned >> Mt Veeder >> Road whilst we were talking b should be no Napa cops there? There >> seems to >> be a movement for a picnic, and that could not be at Hopmonk. So >> is the group >> interested in a ride to a bpubb-like destination for a lunch and >> a pint in >> the British tradition, sometime soon?. >> If so, I will arrange a date and organize for a bcar-showb >> reservation in >> Hopmonkbs parking lot. Dean says they have hosted the Porsche >> club before >> (known as slumming it by real Brit car fans). >> Meanwhile I have to make another quick trip to the UK late March >> so will be >> forced to drink real ale again......oh well. >> See you all again soon . >> Tim >> 1958 MGA (one of at least 4 red-uns in the club now, it seems) >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ >> nobbc at sonic.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ > wbain at sonic.net From dawsonchurch at gmail.com Tue Feb 22 19:02:43 2011 From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com (Dawson Church) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:02:43 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper Switch, Flywheel Message-ID: Hi Friends, Anyone have any of these 4 parts? The wiper switch is for models from 1976 onward. The flywheel is for the 1500 cc engine models. The other parts are common to all model years. I could also use a decent set of aftermarket seats, if anyone has a set they'd like to see the back of. Can you please let me know ASAP, otherwise I have to make my periodic contribution to the retirement fund of the owner of Moss Motors! -- Dawson From don at napanet.net Tue Feb 22 20:12:35 2011 From: don at napanet.net (Don) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:12:35 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Shell ad Message-ID: <20110223031252.F0F17AE6AE@mail.dsl.napanet.net> From don at napanet.net Tue Feb 22 20:16:19 2011 From: don at napanet.net (Don) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:16:19 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Shell ad Message-ID: <20110223031635.4FD91AE6A6@mail.dsl.napanet.net> OK, so it's not British cars . . . >turn up your speakers > > > > >I wanna drive! > > >This is outstanding. The photography superb and the production 5 star. > > Here's a link to a Shell commercial shown in Europe. Ostensibly, they're selling gasoline, but the cars used in the video steal the show. Ferrari pulled several of their race cars from various ages out of storage, flew them around the world, and filmed them running through the streets of Rome, Rio, New York, Hong Kong, Honolulu, and Monaco. No CGI -these are the original cars on the original streets. The best part is the sound - from the basso-profundo notes of the early, front-engine era, each scene cuts to a later generation, ending with the wail of a modern F1 car. The sounds alone bring a tear to the eye. Even if you're not a gearhead, this video will stir the soul. There's just something about 3 liters and 14,000 RPM ! http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=1_kwxzU4wL4&vq=medium From liamof at earthlink.net Tue Feb 22 21:58:07 2011 From: liamof at earthlink.net (Liam O'Flaherty) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:58:07 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] British car restoration on youtube. In-Reply-To: <20110223031635.4FD91AE6A6@mail.dsl.napanet.net> References: <20110223031635.4FD91AE6A6@mail.dsl.napanet.net> Message-ID: <24653C78-69CA-442C-9DB5-72D1829914DC@earthlink.net> Hi guys, Since I am in the midst of restoring a bugeye and rebuilding my engine on the mga I have been checking out others on you tube restoring british cars to get inspiration. This one in particular is quite well made and he really makes quick work of restoring a classic mini. I wish I had his energy. Liam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_cSXlvM7RE From rlmossholder at comcast.net Wed Feb 23 09:06:08 2011 From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:06:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper Switch, Flywheel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1813602771.1398637.1298477168025.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Hi Dawson, Do you need the chrome bezel or the cast headlight bucket? The wiper switch is an expensive one because it is also the pump for the wiper fluid. These can be hard to find. I think I have one, but I'm not sure if it's in working condition. You're welcome to it, if I can find it. I replaced all of the switches in my dash for more reliable ones. As for the flywheel, I had to replace mine with a new one. I went with a Fidanza aluminum flywheel that I bought it on ebay. It makes a huge difference in the throttle response. If you do a search on ebay for "Triumph Spitfire aluminum flywheel" it should come up. Price was pretty reasonable too. Sorry I don't have an extra tach. Cheers, Rich From: "Dawson Church" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:02:43 PM Subject: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper Switch, Flywheel Hi Friends, Anyone have any of these 4 parts? The wiper switch is for models from 1976 onward. The flywheel is for the 1500 cc engine models. The other parts are common to all model years. I could also use a decent set of aftermarket seats, if anyone has a set they'd like to see the back of. Can you please let me know ASAP, otherwise I have to make my periodic contribution to the retirement fund of the owner of Moss Motors! -- Dawson _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net From gtwincams at gmail.com Wed Feb 23 09:42:20 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 08:42:20 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Shell ad In-Reply-To: <20110223031635.4FD91AE6A6@mail.dsl.napanet.net> References: <20110223031635.4FD91AE6A6@mail.dsl.napanet.net> Message-ID: <4D6538EC.6050609@gmail.com> On 2/22/2011 7:16 PM, Don wrote: > OK, so it's not British cars . . . Awesome! How come I never get away with driving like that? Cheers, Greg Tatarian From dawsonchurch at gmail.com Wed Feb 23 10:07:49 2011 From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com (Dawson Church) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:07:49 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper Switch, Flywheel In-Reply-To: <1813602771.1398637.1298477168025.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1813602771.1398637.1298477168025.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Thanks, Rich! I need the cast headlight bucket. Do you have one? I've tried all the usual suppliers for the wiper switch, no luck. Thanks also for the ebay tip, I see quite a few options there! Dawson On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:06 AM, wrote: > Hi Dawson, > > Do you need the chrome bezel or the cast headlight bucket? > > The wiper switch is an expensive one because it is also the pump for the > wiper fluid. These can be hard to find. I think I have one, but I'm not sure > if it's in working condition. You're welcome to it, if I can find it. I > replaced all of the switches in my dash for more reliable ones. > > As for the flywheel, I had to replace mine with a new one. I went with a > Fidanza aluminum flywheel that I bought it on ebay. It makes a huge > difference in the throttle response. If you do a search on ebay for "Triumph > Spitfire aluminum flywheel" it should come up. Price was pretty reasonable > too. > Sorry I don't have an extra tach. > > Cheers, > Rich > > From: "Dawson Church" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:02:43 PM > Subject: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper > Switch, Flywheel > > Hi Friends, > > Anyone have any of these 4 parts? The wiper switch is for models from 1976 > onward. The flywheel is for the 1500 cc engine models. The other parts are > common to all model years. > > I could also use a decent set of aftermarket seats, if anyone has a set > they'd like to see the back of. > > Can you please let me know ASAP, otherwise I have to make my periodic > contribution to the retirement fund of the owner of Moss Motors! > > -- > Dawson > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > -- Dawson From mewgull at sonic.net Wed Feb 23 11:30:37 2011 From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:30:37 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Shell ad In-Reply-To: <4D6538EC.6050609@gmail.com> References: <20110223031635.4FD91AE6A6@mail.dsl.napanet.net> <4D6538EC.6050609@gmail.com> Message-ID: Just a guess here, but I'd be surprised if you could come up with a bunch of pristine vintage GP Ferraria and had Shell Oil's resources to buy off the officials in all those venues. How much did it cost 'em to close down those streets in NYC? And then how did they make sure that some recalcitrant cabbie didn't ignore the barriers? But if I'm wrong about that stuff Greg, can I get a lap or two in that 1.5 liter car? Gerry On Feb 23, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > Awesome! How come I never get away with driving like that? G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism.  -- Sir William Osler From rlmossholder at comcast.net Wed Feb 23 15:24:45 2011 From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:24:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper Switch, Flywheel In-Reply-To: <851568764.1413325.1298488626075.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1738042925.1425954.1298499885304.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Hi Dawson, Yes, I have the cast bucket. It's an orange/red color. I'll look for the wiper switch this afternoon. If I can't find it, I believe Rimmer Brothers in England has them. Just a general search on ebay for "Triumph Spitfire" will reveal thousands of parts and accessories both new and used. Browsing ebay will also give you a good idea of what things should cost. I think Moss is too expensive. Cheers, Rich ----- Original Message ----- Fawsonrom: "Dawson Church" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:07:49 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper Switch, Flywheel Thanks, Rich! I need the cast headlight bucket. Do you have one? I've tried all the usual suppliers for the wiper switch, no luck. Thanks also for the ebay tip, I see quite a few options there! Dawson On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:06 AM, wrote: > Hi Dawson, > > Do you need the chrome bezel or the cast headlight bucket? > > The wiper switch is an expensive one because it is also the pump for the > wiper fluid. These can be hard to find. I think I have one, but I'm not sure > if it's in working condition. You're welcome to it, if I can find it. I > replaced all of the switches in my dash for more reliable ones. > > As for the flywheel, I had to replace mine with a new one. I went with a > Fidanza aluminum flywheel that I bought it on ebay. It makes a huge > difference in the throttle response. If you do a search on ebay for "Triumph > Spitfire aluminum flywheel" it should come up. Price was pretty reasonable > too. > Sorry I don't have an extra tach. > > Cheers, > Rich > > From: "Dawson Church" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:02:43 PM > Subject: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper > Switch, Flywheel > > Hi Friends, > > Anyone have any of these 4 parts? The wiper switch is for models from 1976 > onward. The flywheel is for the 1500 cc engine models. The other parts are > common to all model years. > > I could also use a decent set of aftermarket seats, if anyone has a set > they'd like to see the back of. > > Can you please let me know ASAP, otherwise I have to make my periodic > contribution to the retirement fund of the owner of Moss Motors! > > -- > Dawson > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > -- Dawson _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net From wbain at sonic.net Wed Feb 23 15:51:54 2011 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:51:54 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Shell ad In-Reply-To: <20110223031635.4FD91AE6A6@mail.dsl.napanet.net> References: <20110223031635.4FD91AE6A6@mail.dsl.napanet.net> Message-ID: This is GREAT!!! Beautiful footage. Super sound. Wendell On Feb 22, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Don wrote: > OK, so it's not British cars . . . > >> turn up your speakers >> >> >> >> >> I wanna drive! >> >> >> This is outstanding. The photography superb and the production 5 >> star. >> >> > Here's a link to a Shell commercial shown in Europe. Ostensibly, > they're selling gasoline, but the cars used in the video steal the > show. > Ferrari pulled several of their race cars from various ages out of > storage, flew them around the world, and filmed them running > through the streets of Rome, Rio, New York, Hong Kong, Honolulu, > and Monaco. No CGI -these are the original cars on the original > streets. > The best part is the sound - from the basso-profundo notes of the > early, front-engine era, each scene cuts to a later generation, > ending with the wail of a modern F1 car. The sounds alone bring a > tear to the eye. Even if you're not a gearhead, this video will > stir the soul. > > There's just something about 3 liters and 14,000 RPM ! > > > http:// > www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=1_kwxzU4wL4&vq=medium > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ > wbain at sonic.net From mewgull at sonic.net Wed Feb 23 16:14:28 2011 From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:14:28 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] TR gear shift lever? In-Reply-To: <1738042925.1425954.1298499885304.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1738042925.1425954.1298499885304.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <689255B5-E8B3-4EF2-9964-61AB3EC5B2B3@sonic.net> Hi all, Does anyone here have a spare TR gearshift lever they can loan me? The TR4 is nearly ready for some road testing but we want to do that using the stock tranny and I've already converted the stick for the W58 5-speed. I'd probably only need it for a couple weeks or so and promise to return it in good condition. Or if you know of a source of a cheap but functional stick and can point me in that direction I'd be grateful... even grateful enough to buy ya a pint of that Olde Speckled Hen. Any help will be appreciated. BTW.... Olde Speckled Hen on tap is 4.5% alcohol, so, were one to consume a US pint you'd be getting .72 oz of alcohol. If you had an imperial pint (20 oz) you'd get .9 oz of alcohol. While there is no doubt that any amount of alcohol is detrimental to the skill needed for driving, the amount here is either the about half of what you'd get from a shot of 100-proof whiskey for the US pint. That's not too much and I'd suggest that talking to your passenger or having any distraction (radio, phone, scenic view, concern about engine over- heating etc.) is going to be at least on a par in terms of negative effect. Just my 2 cents worth. Gerry G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism.  -- Sir William Osler From gtwincams at gmail.com Wed Feb 23 16:34:44 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (gtwincams at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:34:44 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] TR gear shift lever? In-Reply-To: <689255B5-E8B3-4EF2-9964-61AB3EC5B2B3@sonic.net> References: <1738042925.1425954.1298499885304.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><689255B5-E8B3-4EF2-9964-61AB3EC5B2B3@sonic.net> Message-ID: If I recall, the lever is the same as that on a TR6. If so, I have one you can borrow, Gerry. Greg Tatarian Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "G. Mugele" Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:14:28 To: North Bay British Car Club Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] TR gear shift lever? Hi all, Does anyone here have a spare TR gearshift lever they can loan me? The TR4 is nearly ready for some road testing but we want to do that using the stock tranny and I've already converted the stick for the W58 5-speed. I'd probably only need it for a couple weeks or so and promise to return it in good condition. Or if you know of a source of a cheap but functional stick and can point me in that direction I'd be grateful... even grateful enough to buy ya a pint of that Olde Speckled Hen. Any help will be appreciated. BTW.... Olde Speckled Hen on tap is 4.5% alcohol, so, were one to consume a US pint you'd be getting .72 oz of alcohol. If you had an imperial pint (20 oz) you'd get .9 oz of alcohol. While there is no doubt that any amount of alcohol is detrimental to the skill needed for driving, the amount here is either the about half of what you'd get from a shot of 100-proof whiskey for the US pint. That's not too much and I'd suggest that talking to your passenger or having any distraction (radio, phone, scenic view, concern about engine over- heating etc.) is going to be at least on a par in terms of negative effect. Just my 2 cents worth. Gerry G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism.  -- Sir William Osler _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/gtwincams at gmail.com From mewgull at sonic.net Wed Feb 23 17:04:36 2011 From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:04:36 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] TR gear shift lever? In-Reply-To: <20110224000051.CC228187665@autox.team.net> References: <1738042925.1425954.1298499885304.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><689255B5-E8B3-4EF2-9964-61AB3EC5B2B3@sonic.net> <20110224000051.CC228187665@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Terrific, Thanks... yes they're apparently all the same from the 2 thru the 6. I'll contact you off-line. Gerry On Feb 23, 2011, at 3:34 PM, gtwincams at gmail.com wrote: > If I recall, the lever is the same as that on a TR6. If so, I have > one you can borrow, Gerry. G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism.  -- Sir William Osler From bazzanojohn at comcast.net Wed Feb 23 17:14:40 2011 From: bazzanojohn at comcast.net (bazzanojohn at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 00:14:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Nobbc] TR gear shift lever? In-Reply-To: <20110224000050.184BE18764F@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <215723477.1417151.1298506480919.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> And if that doesn't fit, I think I have a spare for a TR2. John Bazzano ----- Original Message ----- From: gtwincams at gmail.com To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:34:44 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] TR gear shift lever? If I recall, the lever is the same as that on a TR6. If so, I have one you can borrow, Gerry. Greg Tatarian Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "G. Mugele" Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:14:28 To: North Bay British Car Club Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] TR gear shift lever? Hi all, Does anyone here have a spare TR gearshift lever they can loan me? The TR4 is nearly ready for some road testing but we want to do that using the stock tranny and I've already converted the stick for the W58 5-speed. B I'd probably only need it for a couple weeks or so and promise to return it in good condition. Or if you know of a source of a cheap but functional stick and can point me in that direction I'd be grateful... even grateful enough to buy ya a pint of that Olde Speckled Hen. Any help will be appreciated. BTW.... Olde Speckled Hen on tap is 4.5% alcohol, so, were one to consume a US pint you'd be getting .72 oz of alcohol. B If you had an imperial pint (20 oz) you'd get .9 oz of alcohol. B While there is no doubt that any amount of alcohol is detrimental to the skill needed for driving, the amount here is either the about half of what you'd get from a shot of 100-proof whiskey for the US pint. B That's not too much and I'd suggest that talking to your passenger or having any distraction (radio, phone, scenic view, concern about engine over- heating etc.) is going to be at least on a par in terms of negative effect. B Just my 2 cents worth. Gerry G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism. B -- Sir William Osler _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/gtwincams at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/bazzanojohn at comcast.net From sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com Wed Feb 23 19:47:57 2011 From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com (sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:47:57 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: RM AUCTIONS/// COLLECTOR CAR WORLD///: 2011 Ferrari Judging at Concorso Message-ID: <0EE5F1311DE74C61ACC54DC1CA91AE18@mike> Concorso Italiano 2011To all, It's auction time, here are some nice rides to look at, appreciate, or purchase if you have the resources. But for most of us, it's time to paint, polish, spif up those lbc's and get on out there, enjoy the coming spring weather, and beautiful Sonoma countryside. Enjoy, or dream, which ever the case. Michael 64 TR4 P.S. After all the fun I had with 15 lbc's over the years, I could probably force myself to endure owning one the Ferraris, they're fun, maybe even the AC Bristol. I almost bought one once, but didn't. I've regretted it ever since. ----- Original Message ----- From: RACER BUD To: RACER BUD Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 4:42 PM Subject: Fw: RM AUCTIONS/// COLLECTOR CAR WORLD///: 2011 Ferrari Judging at Concorso Hi Gang..here are 3 items... Racer Bud Thanks to RM AUCTIONS for the following. Subject: Hit the road this spring! Superb driverbs cars offered at Amelia Island Spring is around the corner, which can only mean one thingbitbs time to bring those collector cars out of storage and prepare them for the open road! Our Amelia Island auction on March 12 has a number of driverbs cars that are perfect for everything from a leisurely Sunday drive to a vintage rally or even an all-out track day. No matter which events you plan on attending over the course of the year, Amelia Island has the right car for the job, several of which are pictured on the right. The 300SL Roadster is a perfect car for fair-weather driving, and the AC Ace Bristol and early E-Type 3.8 Roadster are ideal for the British car connoisseur. For those looking to hit the road with V-12 power behind that gas pedal, the Ferrari 330 GTS and 275 GTB/4 are the best contenders. And last but certainly not least, be sure to take a look at the Alfa Romeo 6C 1750 GS Zagato Spyder, a very desirable example that is eligible for multiple important events. A complete listing of all the terrific cars at Amelia Island is available online, along with a comprehensive digital catalog, both complete with catalog descriptions and extensive photography. Tune in to Car Specialists on the Radio Tune in live to The Maximum Motoring Show from 3.05pm EST tomorrow (Thursday, February 24) as our own Donnie Gould and Alain Squindo join hosts Stew White and Jim Grady for their weekly show, previewing Auction America's Fort Lauderdale sale, March 4-6, and RM's Amelia Island sale, March 12. Have a question for Donnie or Alain? Call the studio toll free at 866-826-1340. To listen live, visit www.maximummotoring.com, or if you are in Florida, tune into AM 1340 WTAN & 1350 WDCF (Tampa Bay) or 790 WLBE (Central Florida). Thanks to COLLECTOR CAR WORLD for the following...click the link http://www.collectorscarworld.com/Newsletter/2011-02-23/index.html Thanks to CONCORSO ITALIANO for the following Laguna Seca Golf Ranch - Monterey, CA August 19th, 2011 b" 9:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. Admission Tickets b" $80 through February 28th Includes: b" One Admission Ticket b" Complimentary On-site Parking b" Event Goody Bag b" Collector's Magazine (while supplies last) Italian Vehicle b" $85 through February 28th Includes: b" Entrance for your registered vehicle b" Entry for two vehicle occupants as the vehicle enters the event b" Two Wrist Bands for the Italian Vehicle Hospitality Pavilion b" One Event Goody Bag per vehicle b" One Collector's Magazine per vehicle (while supplies last) Italian Motorcycles b" $60 through February 28th Includes: b" Entrance for your registered motorcycle and yourself into the event b" One Wrist Band for the Italian Hospitality Pavilion b" One Event Goodie Bag b" One Collector's Magazine (while supplies last) b" An additional ticket is available at a discounted rate of $25 for Motorcycle passengers (limit 1) Non-Italian Vehicle b" $100 through February 28th Includes: b" Entrance for your registered vehicle b" Entry for two vehicle occupants as the vehicle enters the event b" Two Wrist Bands for the Non-Italian Vehicle Hospitality Pavilion b" One Event Goody Bag per vehicle b" One Collector's Magazine per vehicle (while supplies last) *all other guests or handlers in your party must purchase an additional admission ticket at full price. 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Sent to budscars at comcast.net: unsubscribe | update profile | forward to a friend [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of RM_log.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of date.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of menu_space.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of auctions.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of buy.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of sell.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of main_header.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of main1.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of break.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of main2.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of feature1.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of feature2.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of feature3.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of feature4.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of feature5.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of feature6.jpg] From jkenner at tamcab.com Wed Feb 23 20:28:12 2011 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:28:12 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] helmet In-Reply-To: <0EE5F1311DE74C61ACC54DC1CA91AE18@mike> References: <0EE5F1311DE74C61ACC54DC1CA91AE18@mike> Message-ID: <005101cbd3d2$deeabdf0$9cc039d0$@com> Where in Santa Rosa or close by can I buy a helmet that I can use for Autox and track day? I'm a member of ESCA and seem to remember a shop that offered a discount to ESCA members in Santa Rosa. JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F From mewgull at sonic.net Wed Feb 23 22:31:18 2011 From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:31:18 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] helmet In-Reply-To: <005101cbd3d2$deeabdf0$9cc039d0$@com> References: <0EE5F1311DE74C61ACC54DC1CA91AE18@mike> <005101cbd3d2$deeabdf0$9cc039d0$@com> Message-ID: <9CA2D921-341B-4764-B46A-213768C61B9D@sonic.net> Hmmm... there are a number of stores that offer discounts on parts to ESCA members but I don't think that there are any offering discounts on helmets. I got my last helmet at http://www.northbaymotorsport.com on Santa Rosa Ave. They had the best prices around a few years ago. If you're planning on running an ESCA event, there are a couple loaners available on site. What ride are you going to AutoX? Bob the beard can tell you what discounts are available for ESCA members: 707 546-6867 or thebeard at sonic.net On Feb 23, 2011, at 7:28 PM, John Kenner wrote: > Where in Santa Rosa or close by can I buy a helmet that I can use > for Autox > and track day? > I'm a member of ESCA and seem to remember a shop that offered a > discount to > ESCA members in Santa Rosa. > > JOHN KENNER > G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism.  -- Sir William Osler From gtwincams at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 09:02:27 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 08:02:27 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] helmet In-Reply-To: <9CA2D921-341B-4764-B46A-213768C61B9D@sonic.net> References: <0EE5F1311DE74C61ACC54DC1CA91AE18@mike> <005101cbd3d2$deeabdf0$9cc039d0$@com> <9CA2D921-341B-4764-B46A-213768C61B9D@sonic.net> Message-ID: <4D668113.5060306@gmail.com> 2nd North Bay Motorsports. Greg Tatarian On 2/23/2011 9:31 PM, G. Mugele wrote: > Hmmm... there are a number of stores that offer discounts on parts to > ESCA members but I don't think that there are any offering discounts > on helmets. > > I got my last helmet at http://www.northbaymotorsport.com on Santa > Rosa Ave. > > They had the best prices around a few years ago. > > If you're planning on running an ESCA event, there are a couple > loaners available on site. > > What ride are you going to AutoX? > > Bob the beard can tell you what discounts are available for ESCA > members: 707 546-6867 or thebeard at sonic.net From sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com Thu Feb 24 16:51:29 2011 From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com (sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:51:29 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: DRAYSON TEAM GOES ELECTRIC///RACER BUD CAR OF THE WEEK///GRAND-AM WEEKLY NEWS///CSRG CONTACT PATCH/// Message-ID: <29B2EDC9E24A4F3AB367EC1C4DE54BDB@mike> Wow, Electric Le Mans race cars, and F1 Bahrain canceled, interesting news! Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: RACER BUD To: RACER BUD Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 2:25 PM Subject: Fw: DRAYSON TEAM GOES ELECTRIC///RACER BUD CAR OF THE WEEK///GRAND-AM WEEKLY NEWS///CSRG CONTACT PATCH/// Hi Gang...4 more items of interest.. Racer Bud DRAYSON QUITS ALMS..GOES ELECTRIC! http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89629 RACER BUD car of the week! http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto/2226334655.html Thanks to GRAND-AM.COM for the following. http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?llr=qnq4nicab&v=001bNszPz862Yy DdypskyUJs0GL2rcvLkFmQEsF9MK2OQw_JgAZCp1oX9n27UcP31nWJ5VOR0mnT4ifWNWFKy_5yoVs P6puFvB05ZHahrqpjoUK954cw6k_PA%3D%3D Thanks to CSRG for the following http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?llr=qxv4dpcab&v=001bNszPz862Yx XECh005gQQrftVxsyoEUXK6bWMcg5qTNhdh6-69jE1TM-6vRk0xLJIqfIRqZrgcYvX_LfZ5_-QoBQ u9YmLyBLsfrWSRm25161i8O3L3PjiJZsZS8apzkZZR9hBSsj8hTP5Bj22ztAL6wXPQUTpk4dTF7SH 2hDRu3DeESuJJbp96SfUeeWFyTPYQQdJ7UheAQxQdvcTCFRwA%3D%3D From gtwincams at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 09:31:04 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:31:04 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Targa California Message-ID: <4D67D948.6000001@gmail.com> In case anyone is interested: http://www.nasaproracing.com/event/1220 Greg Tatarian From norman.weinfeld at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 10:05:26 2011 From: norman.weinfeld at gmail.com (Norman S. Weinfeld) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:05:26 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Targa California In-Reply-To: <4D67D948.6000001@gmail.com> References: <4D67D948.6000001@gmail.com> Message-ID: How to do this from the Bay Area has always been my question. Randy Nonnenberg on his wonderful BaT site lauded this run as well, as have many others. Norm Weinfeld On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > In case anyone is interested: > > http://www.nasaproracing.com/event/1220 > > Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com From gtwincams at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 10:21:14 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:21:14 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Targa California In-Reply-To: References: <4D67D948.6000001@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D67E50A.4090103@gmail.com> Trailer to the starting point? On 2/25/2011 9:05 AM, Norman S. Weinfeld wrote: > How to do this from the Bay Area has always been my question. Randy > Nonnenberg on his wonderful BaT site lauded this run as well, as have many > others. > > Norm Weinfeld > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: From dawsonchurch at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 10:25:46 2011 From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com (Dawson Church) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:25:46 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper Switch, Flywheel In-Reply-To: <1738042925.1425954.1298499885304.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <851568764.1413325.1298488626075.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <1738042925.1425954.1298499885304.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Fantastic! Can I swing by some time today (Friday) or Monday to pick it up? I'm happy to pay you for it. I'm also looking for a new bell housing. There's a tube pressed into the back of the bell housing that holds the transmission rear oil seal in place, and mine is sheared off. Rather than get the tube, and have it pressed into the old bell housing, it just occurred to me to look for a replacement bell housing. Also, this guy has tons of parts, in the event you need something: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/pts/2226506102.html Dawson On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 2:24 PM, wrote: > Hi Dawson, > > Yes, I have the cast bucket. It's an orange/red color. > I'll look for the wiper switch this afternoon. > If I can't find it, I believe Rimmer Brothers in England has them. > Just a general search on ebay for "Triumph Spitfire" will reveal thousands > of parts and accessories both new and used. Browsing ebay will also give you > a good idea of what things should cost. I think Moss is too expensive. > > Cheers, > Rich > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Fawsonrom: "Dawson Church" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:07:49 AM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper > Switch, Flywheel > > Thanks, Rich! > > I need the cast headlight bucket. Do you have one? > > I've tried all the usual suppliers for the wiper switch, no luck. > > Thanks also for the ebay tip, I see quite a few options there! > > Dawson > > > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:06 AM, wrote: > > > Hi Dawson, > > > > Do you need the chrome bezel or the cast headlight bucket? > > > > The wiper switch is an expensive one because it is also the pump for the > > wiper fluid. These can be hard to find. I think I have one, but I'm not > sure > > if it's in working condition. You're welcome to it, if I can find it. I > > replaced all of the switches in my dash for more reliable ones. > > > > As for the flywheel, I had to replace mine with a new one. I went with a > > Fidanza aluminum flywheel that I bought it on ebay. It makes a huge > > difference in the throttle response. If you do a search on ebay for > "Triumph > > Spitfire aluminum flywheel" it should come up. Price was pretty > reasonable > > too. > > Sorry I don't have an extra tach. > > > > Cheers, > > Rich > > > > From: "Dawson Church" > > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:02:43 PM > > Subject: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper > > Switch, Flywheel > > > > Hi Friends, > > > > Anyone have any of these 4 parts? The wiper switch is for models from > 1976 > > onward. The flywheel is for the 1500 cc engine models. The other parts > are > > common to all model years. > > > > I could also use a decent set of aftermarket seats, if anyone has a set > > they'd like to see the back of. > > > > Can you please let me know ASAP, otherwise I have to make my periodic > > contribution to the retirement fund of the owner of Moss Motors! > > > > -- > > Dawson > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > > > > > > -- > Dawson > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > -- Dawson From norman.weinfeld at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 10:35:25 2011 From: norman.weinfeld at gmail.com (Norman S. Weinfeld) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:35:25 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Targa California In-Reply-To: <4D67E50A.4090103@gmail.com> References: <4D67D948.6000001@gmail.com> <4D67E50A.4090103@gmail.com> Message-ID: Send you the bill? On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > Trailer to the starting point? > > > On 2/25/2011 9:05 AM, Norman S. Weinfeld wrote: > >> How to do this from the Bay Area has always been my question. Randy >> Nonnenberg on his wonderful BaT site lauded this run as well, as have many >> others. >> >> Norm Weinfeld >> >> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Greg Tatarian >> wrote: >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com From gtwincams at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 10:54:30 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:54:30 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Targa California In-Reply-To: References: <4D67D948.6000001@gmail.com> <4D67E50A.4090103@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D67ECD6.7080002@gmail.com> Ach, Norm. What price do you put on fun? Open trailers are cheap on C/L now. It's only Central Cali... ;-) Greg On 2/25/2011 9:35 AM, Norman S. Weinfeld wrote: > Send you the bill? > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: From sarto477 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 25 11:06:39 2011 From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:06:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper Switch, Flywheel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <396347.40454.qm@web113502.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi Dawson, When I restored my 1970 spitfire there was a guy just north of Santa rosa in the back roads somewhere near the Casino that had a junk year full of triumph spitfires, parts and pieces. Others may know him, I will look for his business card. I think I found him through Mark at British European Motors. Sarto --- On Fri, 2/25/11, Dawson Church wrote: From: Dawson Church Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper Switch, Flywheel To: "North Bay British Car Club" Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 9:25 AM Fantastic! Can I swing by some time today (Friday) or Monday to pick it up? I'm happy to pay you for it. I'm also looking for a new bell housing. There's a tube pressed into the back of the bell housing that holds the transmission rear oil seal in place, and mine is sheared off. Rather than get the tube, and have it pressed into the old bell housing, it just occurred to me to look for a replacement bell housing. Also, this guy has tons of parts, in the event you need something: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/pts/2226506102.html Dawson On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 2:24 PM, wrote: > Hi Dawson, > > Yes, I have the cast bucket. It's an orange/red color. > I'll look for the wiper switch this afternoon. > If I can't find it, I believe Rimmer Brothers in England has them. > Just a general search on ebay for "Triumph Spitfire" will reveal thousands > of parts and accessories both new and used. Browsing ebay will also give you > a good idea of what things should cost. I think Moss is too expensive. > > Cheers, > Rich > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Fawsonrom: "Dawson Church" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:07:49 AM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper > Switch, Flywheel > > Thanks, Rich! > > I need the cast headlight bucket. Do you have one? > > I've tried all the usual suppliers for the wiper switch, no luck. > > Thanks also for the ebay tip, I see quite a few options there! > > Dawson > > > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:06 AM, wrote: > > > Hi Dawson, > > > > Do you need the chrome bezel or the cast headlight bucket? > > > > The wiper switch is an expensive one because it is also the pump for the > > wiper fluid. These can be hard to find. I think I have one, but I'm not > sure > > if it's in working condition. You're welcome to it, if I can find it. I > > replaced all of the switches in my dash for more reliable ones. > > > > As for the flywheel, I had to replace mine with a new one. I went with a > > Fidanza aluminum flywheel that I bought it on ebay. It makes a huge > > difference in the throttle response. If you do a search on ebay for > "Triumph > > Spitfire aluminum flywheel" it should come up. Price was pretty > reasonable > > too. > > Sorry I don't have an extra tach. > > > > Cheers, > > Rich > > > > From: "Dawson Church" > > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:02:43 PM > > Subject: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper > > Switch, Flywheel > > > > Hi Friends, > > > > Anyone have any of these 4 parts? The wiper switch is for models from > 1976 > > onward. The flywheel is for the 1500 cc engine models. The other parts > are > > common to all model years. > > > > I could also use a decent set of aftermarket seats, if anyone has a set > > they'd like to see the back of. > > > > Can you please let me know ASAP, otherwise I have to make my periodic > > contribution to the retirement fund of the owner of Moss Motors! > > > > -- > > Dawson > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > > > > > > -- > Dawson > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > -- Dawson _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/sarto477 at yahoo.com From norman.weinfeld at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 11:40:23 2011 From: norman.weinfeld at gmail.com (Norman S. Weinfeld) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:40:23 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Targa California In-Reply-To: <4D67ECD6.7080002@gmail.com> References: <4D67D948.6000001@gmail.com> <4D67E50A.4090103@gmail.com> <4D67ECD6.7080002@gmail.com> Message-ID: Good. I'll put that down as a "yes." On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > Ach, Norm. What price do you put on fun? > > Open trailers are cheap on C/L now. It's only Central Cali... ;-) > > Greg > > > > On 2/25/2011 9:35 AM, Norman S. Weinfeld wrote: > >> Send you the bill? >> >> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Greg Tatarian >> wrote: >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com From rlmossholder at comcast.net Fri Feb 25 11:58:42 2011 From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:58:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper Switch, Flywheel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1461334932.1540806.1298660322530.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Hi Dawson, Any time this afternoon is fine with me. Monday is OK too. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawson Church" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:25:46 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper Switch, Flywheel Fantastic! Can I swing by some time today (Friday) or Monday to pick it up? I'm happy to pay you for it. I'm also looking for a new bell housing. There's a tube pressed into the back of the bell housing that holds the transmission rear oil seal in place, and mine is sheared off. Rather than get the tube, and have it pressed into the old bell housing, it just occurred to me to look for a replacement bell housing. Also, this guy has tons of parts, in the event you need something: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/pts/2226506102.html Dawson On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 2:24 PM, wrote: > Hi Dawson, > > Yes, I have the cast bucket. It's an orange/red color. > I'll look for the wiper switch this afternoon. > If I can't find it, I believe Rimmer Brothers in England has them. > Just a general search on ebay for "Triumph Spitfire" will reveal thousands > of parts and accessories both new and used. Browsing ebay will also give you > a good idea of what things should cost. I think Moss is too expensive. > > Cheers, > Rich > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Fawsonrom: "Dawson Church" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:07:49 AM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper > Switch, Flywheel > > Thanks, Rich! > > I need the cast headlight bucket. Do you have one? > > I've tried all the usual suppliers for the wiper switch, no luck. > > Thanks also for the ebay tip, I see quite a few options there! > > Dawson > > > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:06 AM, wrote: > > > Hi Dawson, > > > > Do you need the chrome bezel or the cast headlight bucket? > > > > The wiper switch is an expensive one because it is also the pump for the > > wiper fluid. These can be hard to find. I think I have one, but I'm not > sure > > if it's in working condition. You're welcome to it, if I can find it. I > > replaced all of the switches in my dash for more reliable ones. > > > > As for the flywheel, I had to replace mine with a new one. I went with a > > Fidanza aluminum flywheel that I bought it on ebay. It makes a huge > > difference in the throttle response. If you do a search on ebay for > "Triumph > > Spitfire aluminum flywheel" it should come up. Price was pretty > reasonable > > too. > > Sorry I don't have an extra tach. > > > > Cheers, > > Rich > > > > From: "Dawson Church" > > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:02:43 PM > > Subject: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper > > Switch, Flywheel > > > > Hi Friends, > > > > Anyone have any of these 4 parts? The wiper switch is for models from > 1976 > > onward. The flywheel is for the 1500 cc engine models. The other parts > are > > common to all model years. > > > > I could also use a decent set of aftermarket seats, if anyone has a set > > they'd like to see the back of. > > > > Can you please let me know ASAP, otherwise I have to make my periodic > > contribution to the retirement fund of the owner of Moss Motors! > > > > -- > > Dawson > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > > > > > > -- > Dawson > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > -- Dawson _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net From gtwincams at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 08:48:09 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 07:48:09 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] AH3000 Message-ID: <4D6920B9.8060107@gmail.com> Seems pretty darned cheap to me, if it isn't a rust bucket... http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2235181339.html Cheers, Greg Tatarian From sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com Sat Feb 26 12:24:50 2011 From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com (sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:24:50 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: For those who remember or owned a British Vehicle Message-ID: <5C18480743C2475B92FFEC78CA093475@mike> ----- Original Message ----- From: RACER BUD To: RACER BUD Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 7:16 PM Subject: Fw: For those who remember or owned a British Vehicle Thanks to TONY 'CAPTAIN NICE' MEZZACCA for the following... Racer Bud Bud, I bet some of the gang will enjoy this one alot! Not sure if you've seen it before, but thought I'd send it in case you haven't! Best, Tony "Captain Nice" Mezzacca --- On Fri, 2/25/11, John Raney wrote: From: John Raney Subject: For those who remember or owned a British Vehicle To: "Bob Buchmann (Work)" , "Matthew Russell" , "Monty Roberts" , "Anthony Mezzacca" , "Bobby Jordan" , "George Andrews" , "Jack Kissling" , "Jan Hyde" , "John Rick" , "Ray Gomes" , "Rocco Sblendorio" , "Rocco Sblendorio" Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 4:16 PM ELECTRICAL THEORY BY JOSEPH LUCAS Positive ground depends on proper circuit functioning, which is the transmission of negative ions by retention of the visible spectral manifestation known as bsmokeb. Smoke is the thing that makes electrical circuits work. We know this to be true because every time one lets the smoke out of an electrical circuit, it stops working. This can be verified repeatedly through empirical testing. For example, if one places a copper bar across the terminals of a battery, prodigious quantities of smoke are liberated and the battery shortly ceases to function. In addition, if one observes smoke escaping from an electrical component such as a Lucas voltage regulator, it will also be observed that the component no longer functions. The logic is elementary and inescapable! The function of the wiring harness is to conduct the smoke from one device to another. When the wiring springs a leak and lets all the smoke out of the system, nothing works afterward. Starter motors were considered unsuitable for British motorcycles for some time largely because they consumed large quantities of smoke, requiring very unsightly large wires. It has been reported that Lucas electrical components are possibly more prone to electrical leakage than their Bosch, Japanese or American counterparts. Experts point out that this is because Lucas is British, and all things British leak. British engines leak oil, British shock absorbers, hydraulic forks and disk brake systems leak fluid, British tires leak air and British Intelligence leaks national defense secrets. Therefore, it follows that British electrical systems must leak smoke. Once again, the logic is clear and inescapable. In conclusion, the basic concept of transmission of electrical energy in the form of smoke provides a logical explanation of the mysteries of electrical components especially British units manufactured by Joseph Lucas, Ltd. And remember: bA gentleman does not motor about after dark.b Joseph Lucas bThe Prince of Darknessb 1842-1903 A few Lucas quips: The Lucas motto: bGet home before dark.b Lucas is the patent holder for the short circuit. Lucas - Inventor of the first intermittent wiper. Lucas - Inventor of the self-dimming headlamp. The three-position Lucas switch--DIM, FLICKER and OFF. The other three switch settings--SMOKE, SMOLDER and IGNITE. The Original Anti-Theft Device - Lucas Electrics. If Lucas made guns, wars would not start Back in the b70s, Lucas decided to diversify its product line and began manufacturing vacuum cleaners. It was the only product they offered which did not suck. Q: Why do the British drink warm beer? A: Because Lucas makes their refrigerators. The smoke theory is: When the smoke comes out, it is finished...cooked or done for. Best Regards, John Raney 48 Mallinson St Allendale, NJ 07401 201-819-8769 "In God we trust" "One nation under God" "God Bless America" [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image002.png] From nobbc at sonic.net Sat Feb 26 12:51:37 2011 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:51:37 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Marin Yacht Club - Annual Classic Car & Boat Show....] Message-ID: <4D6959C9.4020806@sonic.net> Hi gang, just received this. I know many of you have entered this show in the past and enjoyed it. I have asked Larry for more information and will post it when I get it, meanwhile here's the date so you can plan around it. Ron 58 MGA ************************************************************************ The Marin Yacht Club, located in San Rafael, California, is having their annual Classic Car & Boat show on July 09, 2011. We would very much like to talk with someone in your club about coming and showing your cars. We typically have several good examples of 1950's & 1960's British cars, and we would like to expand the numbers of all the different models bulit by BMC, etc. I can be reached as follows: Larry E. Burnworth e-M: l.e.burnworth at comcast.net H: 415.453.1128 I look forward to hearing from you.... Best Regards; Larry ************************************************************************ From dawsonchurch at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 14:51:19 2011 From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com (Dawson Church) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:51:19 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper Switch, Flywheel In-Reply-To: <1461334932.1540806.1298660322530.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1461334932.1540806.1298660322530.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Where did the day go Friday! I'll come over Monday. Happy fathering till then! Dawson On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:58 AM, wrote: > Hi Dawson, > Any time this afternoon is fine with me. Monday is OK too. > Rich > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dawson Church" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:25:46 AM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper > Switch, Flywheel > > Fantastic! > > Can I swing by some time today (Friday) or Monday to pick it up? > > I'm happy to pay you for it. > > I'm also looking for a new bell housing. There's a tube pressed into the > back of the bell housing that holds the transmission rear oil seal in > place, > and mine is sheared off. Rather than get the tube, and have it pressed into > the old bell housing, it just occurred to me to look for a replacement bell > housing. > > Also, this guy has tons of parts, in the event you need something: > > http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/pts/2226506102.html > > Dawson > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 2:24 PM, wrote: > > > Hi Dawson, > > > > Yes, I have the cast bucket. It's an orange/red color. > > I'll look for the wiper switch this afternoon. > > If I can't find it, I believe Rimmer Brothers in England has them. > > Just a general search on ebay for "Triumph Spitfire" will reveal > thousands > > of parts and accessories both new and used. Browsing ebay will also give > you > > a good idea of what things should cost. I think Moss is too expensive. > > > > Cheers, > > Rich > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Fawsonrom: "Dawson Church" > > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:07:49 AM > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, > Wiper > > Switch, Flywheel > > > > Thanks, Rich! > > > > I need the cast headlight bucket. Do you have one? > > > > I've tried all the usual suppliers for the wiper switch, no luck. > > > > Thanks also for the ebay tip, I see quite a few options there! > > > > Dawson > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:06 AM, wrote: > > > > > Hi Dawson, > > > > > > Do you need the chrome bezel or the cast headlight bucket? > > > > > > The wiper switch is an expensive one because it is also the pump for > the > > > wiper fluid. These can be hard to find. I think I have one, but I'm not > > sure > > > if it's in working condition. You're welcome to it, if I can find it. I > > > replaced all of the switches in my dash for more reliable ones. > > > > > > As for the flywheel, I had to replace mine with a new one. I went with > a > > > Fidanza aluminum flywheel that I bought it on ebay. It makes a huge > > > difference in the throttle response. If you do a search on ebay for > > "Triumph > > > Spitfire aluminum flywheel" it should come up. Price was pretty > > reasonable > > > too. > > > Sorry I don't have an extra tach. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Rich > > > > > > From: "Dawson Church" > > > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:02:43 PM > > > Subject: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper > > > Switch, Flywheel > > > > > > Hi Friends, > > > > > > Anyone have any of these 4 parts? The wiper switch is for models from > > 1976 > > > onward. The flywheel is for the 1500 cc engine models. The other parts > > are > > > common to all model years. > > > > > > I could also use a decent set of aftermarket seats, if anyone has a set > > > they'd like to see the back of. > > > > > > Can you please let me know ASAP, otherwise I have to make my periodic > > > contribution to the retirement fund of the owner of Moss Motors! > > > > > > -- > > > Dawson > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Dawson > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > > > > > > -- > Dawson > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > -- Dawson From wbain at sonic.net Sat Feb 26 17:00:17 2011 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:00:17 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] AH3000 In-Reply-To: <4D6920B9.8060107@gmail.com> References: <4D6920B9.8060107@gmail.com> Message-ID: Greg, Looks like a nice Healey..... Garage space??? Garage space!!! Wendell On Feb 26, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > Seems pretty darned cheap to me, if it isn't a rust bucket... > http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2235181339.html > > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ > wbain at sonic.net From markdarley at mac.com Sat Feb 26 18:32:47 2011 From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 17:32:47 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] AH3000 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6920B9.8060107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <361DAE40-E0BF-458C-ACC1-C1BDA4045CE5@mac.com> Is the Healey a scam? A friend enquired and got the following response: >> My 1967 Austin-Healey 3000 Mark III BJ8 is still for sale for the >> asking price of $21,000.As you've probably seen on my listing I >> decided to lower the price, to avoid wasting time with negotiations >> and find a buyer as soon as possible. >> >> Now about the vehicle Austin-Healey 3000 Mark III,It is a 38,000 >> original miles,is in its original color of British Racing Green >> with a Biscuit Interior and Tan Convertible Top; a matching numbers >> car.The floors are new and in excellent condition. We had a new >> biscuit leather interior installed with new carpeting, canvas >> convertible top, and boot cover as well. >> >> I'm currently signed up for a protection program and I would like >> to close the deal through them. You should know that it will allow >> you to inspect the vehicle before paying me. You will have a 3-5 >> day inspection period to decide whether you want to keep the >> vehicle or not before they release the funds to me. Even if you >> pick the vehicle or have it shipped payment must be submitted using >> their system, but I assume there is nothing wrong with that.Where >> are you located ? >> >> if you have any further questions please email me and I will gladly >> answer your questions. >> >> Thank you, >> Mark Darley markdarley at mac.com 415 381 5452 On Feb 26, 2011, at 4:00 PM, wendell bain wrote: > Greg, > > Looks like a nice Healey..... Garage space??? Garage space!!! > > Wendell > > On Feb 26, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > >> Seems pretty darned cheap to me, if it isn't a rust bucket... >> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2235181339.html >> >> Cheers, >> Greg Tatarian >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wbain at sonic.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/markdarley at mac.com From nobbc at sonic.net Sat Feb 26 18:48:40 2011 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 17:48:40 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] AH3000 In-Reply-To: <361DAE40-E0BF-458C-ACC1-C1BDA4045CE5@mac.com> References: <4D6920B9.8060107@gmail.com> <361DAE40-E0BF-458C-ACC1-C1BDA4045CE5@mac.com> Message-ID: <4D69AD78.60101@sonic.net> Sounds reasonable. There is an opportunity to inspect the car before funds release. Ron 58 MGA Mark Darley wrote: > Is the Healey a scam? A friend enquired and got the following response: > >>> My 1967 Austin-Healey 3000 Mark III BJ8 is still for sale for the >>> asking price of $21,000.As you've probably seen on my listing I >>> decided to lower the price, to avoid wasting time with negotiations >>> and find a buyer as soon as possible. >>> >>> Now about the vehicle Austin-Healey 3000 Mark III,It is a 38,000 >>> original miles,is in its original color of British Racing Green with >>> a Biscuit Interior and Tan Convertible Top; a matching numbers >>> car.The floors are new and in excellent condition. We had a new >>> biscuit leather interior installed with new carpeting, canvas >>> convertible top, and boot cover as well. >>> >>> I'm currently signed up for a protection program and I would like to >>> close the deal through them. You should know that it will allow you >>> to inspect the vehicle before paying me. You will have a 3-5 day >>> inspection period to decide whether you want to keep the vehicle or >>> not before they release the funds to me. Even if you pick the >>> vehicle or have it shipped payment must be submitted using their >>> system, but I assume there is nothing wrong with that.Where are you >>> located ? >>> >>> if you have any further questions please email me and I will gladly >>> answer your questions. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> > Mark Darley > markdarley at mac.com > 415 381 5452 > > > > On Feb 26, 2011, at 4:00 PM, wendell bain wrote: > >> Greg, >> >> Looks like a nice Healey..... Garage space??? Garage space!!! >> >> Wendell >> >> On Feb 26, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: >> >>> Seems pretty darned cheap to me, if it isn't a rust bucket... >>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2235181339.html >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Greg Tatarian >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wbain at sonic.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/markdarley at mac.com > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/nobbc at sonic.net From andypreston at sbcglobal.net Sat Feb 26 18:58:44 2011 From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (Andy Preston) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 17:58:44 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] AH3000 In-Reply-To: <4D69AD78.60101@sonic.net> References: <4D6920B9.8060107@gmail.com><361DAE40-E0BF-458C-ACC1-C1BDA4045CE5@mac.com> <4D69AD78.60101@sonic.net> Message-ID: <4ECFFF8B25134343A494C01C06006CBB@Bonusroom> The car looks great and is way under price if it's as good as it looks. I'm not keen on the purchasing program. I prefer to pay the money and get the car with the title from the seller. It could be a scam. Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 5:49 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] AH3000 Sounds reasonable. There is an opportunity to inspect the car before funds release. Ron 58 MGA Mark Darley wrote: > Is the Healey a scam? A friend enquired and got the following response: > >>> My 1967 Austin-Healey 3000 Mark III BJ8 is still for sale for the >>> asking price of $21,000.As you've probably seen on my listing I >>> decided to lower the price, to avoid wasting time with negotiations >>> and find a buyer as soon as possible. >>> >>> Now about the vehicle Austin-Healey 3000 Mark III,It is a 38,000 >>> original miles,is in its original color of British Racing Green with >>> a Biscuit Interior and Tan Convertible Top; a matching numbers >>> car.The floors are new and in excellent condition. We had a new >>> biscuit leather interior installed with new carpeting, canvas >>> convertible top, and boot cover as well. >>> >>> I'm currently signed up for a protection program and I would like to >>> close the deal through them. You should know that it will allow you >>> to inspect the vehicle before paying me. You will have a 3-5 day >>> inspection period to decide whether you want to keep the vehicle or >>> not before they release the funds to me. Even if you pick the >>> vehicle or have it shipped payment must be submitted using their >>> system, but I assume there is nothing wrong with that.Where are you >>> located ? >>> >>> if you have any further questions please email me and I will gladly >>> answer your questions. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> > Mark Darley > markdarley at mac.com > 415 381 5452 > > > > On Feb 26, 2011, at 4:00 PM, wendell bain wrote: > >> Greg, >> >> Looks like a nice Healey..... Garage space??? Garage space!!! >> >> Wendell >> >> On Feb 26, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: >> >>> Seems pretty darned cheap to me, if it isn't a rust bucket... >>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2235181339.html >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Greg Tatarian >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wbain at sonic.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/markdarley at mac.com > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/nobbc at sonic.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/andypreston at sbcglobal.net From norman.weinfeld at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 19:31:24 2011 From: norman.weinfeld at gmail.com (Norman S. Weinfeld) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:31:24 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] AH3000 In-Reply-To: <4ECFFF8B25134343A494C01C06006CBB@Bonusroom> References: <4D6920B9.8060107@gmail.com> <361DAE40-E0BF-458C-ACC1-C1BDA4045CE5@mac.com> <4D69AD78.60101@sonic.net> <4ECFFF8B25134343A494C01C06006CBB@Bonusroom> Message-ID: Looks fishy to me too... On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Andy Preston wrote: > The car looks great and is way under price if it's as good as it looks. > I'm > not keen on the purchasing program. I prefer to pay the money and get the > car with the title from the seller. It could be a scam. > > Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 5:49 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] AH3000 > > Sounds reasonable. There is an opportunity to inspect the car before > funds release. > > Ron > 58 MGA > > Mark Darley wrote: > > > Is the Healey a scam? A friend enquired and got the following response: > > > >>> My 1967 Austin-Healey 3000 Mark III BJ8 is still for sale for the > >>> asking price of $21,000.As you've probably seen on my listing I > >>> decided to lower the price, to avoid wasting time with negotiations > >>> and find a buyer as soon as possible. > >>> > >>> Now about the vehicle Austin-Healey 3000 Mark III,It is a 38,000 > >>> original miles,is in its original color of British Racing Green with > >>> a Biscuit Interior and Tan Convertible Top; a matching numbers > >>> car.The floors are new and in excellent condition. We had a new > >>> biscuit leather interior installed with new carpeting, canvas > >>> convertible top, and boot cover as well. > >>> > >>> I'm currently signed up for a protection program and I would like to > >>> close the deal through them. You should know that it will allow you > >>> to inspect the vehicle before paying me. You will have a 3-5 day > >>> inspection period to decide whether you want to keep the vehicle or > >>> not before they release the funds to me. Even if you pick the > >>> vehicle or have it shipped payment must be submitted using their > >>> system, but I assume there is nothing wrong with that.Where are you > >>> located ? > >>> > >>> if you have any further questions please email me and I will gladly > >>> answer your questions. > >>> > >>> Thank you, > >>> > > Mark Darley > > markdarley at mac.com > > 415 381 5452 > > > > > > > > On Feb 26, 2011, at 4:00 PM, wendell bain wrote: > > > >> Greg, > >> > >> Looks like a nice Healey..... Garage space??? Garage space!!! > >> > >> Wendell > >> > >> On Feb 26, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > >> > >>> Seems pretty darned cheap to me, if it isn't a rust bucket... > >>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2235181339.html > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Greg Tatarian > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wbain at sonic.net > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Nobbc at autox.team.net > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/markdarley at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/nobbc at sonic.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/andypreston at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com From hawkview at sonic.net Sat Feb 26 19:36:47 2011 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:36:47 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] AH3000 In-Reply-To: <4ECFFF8B25134343A494C01C06006CBB@Bonusroom> References: <4D6920B9.8060107@gmail.com><361DAE40-E0BF-458C-ACC1-C1BDA4045CE5@mac.com><4D69AD78.60101@sonic.net> <4ECFFF8B25134343A494C01C06006CBB@Bonusroom> Message-ID: <1C591ED1ABBA47C98A9AC235824A420B@williamsonPC> Please use caution guys. This could be a scam. Note the cobblestone road. I don't know of any places like this in the bay area, especially worn as these are. And look at the buildings. Same thing. Looks very European to me. These could be the photos this guys used to purchase the car, but why not use new photos. And there is no license plate on the car. Also the low curbs and gates look very similar to those in Europe. And 38,000 original miles. Why replace the leather? And why new floors? Just be very careful. This could be the deal of your life, or.... You know what they say, "if it looks like to good to be true, it probably is". Clif 1974 Jensen Healey -----Original Message----- From: Andy Preston Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 5:58 PM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: Re: [Nobbc] AH3000 The car looks great and is way under price if it's as good as it looks. I'm not keen on the purchasing program. I prefer to pay the money and get the car with the title from the seller. It could be a scam. Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 5:49 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] AH3000 Sounds reasonable. There is an opportunity to inspect the car before funds release. Ron 58 MGA Mark Darley wrote: > Is the Healey a scam? A friend enquired and got the following response: > >>> My 1967 Austin-Healey 3000 Mark III BJ8 is still for sale for the >>> asking price of $21,000.As you've probably seen on my listing I >>> decided to lower the price, to avoid wasting time with negotiations >>> and find a buyer as soon as possible. >>> >>> Now about the vehicle Austin-Healey 3000 Mark III,It is a 38,000 >>> original miles,is in its original color of British Racing Green with >>> a Biscuit Interior and Tan Convertible Top; a matching numbers >>> car.The floors are new and in excellent condition. We had a new >>> biscuit leather interior installed with new carpeting, canvas >>> convertible top, and boot cover as well. >>> >>> I'm currently signed up for a protection program and I would like to >>> close the deal through them. You should know that it will allow you >>> to inspect the vehicle before paying me. You will have a 3-5 day >>> inspection period to decide whether you want to keep the vehicle or >>> not before they release the funds to me. Even if you pick the >>> vehicle or have it shipped payment must be submitted using their >>> system, but I assume there is nothing wrong with that.Where are you >>> located ? >>> >>> if you have any further questions please email me and I will gladly >>> answer your questions. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> > Mark Darley > markdarley at mac.com > 415 381 5452 > > > > On Feb 26, 2011, at 4:00 PM, wendell bain wrote: > >> Greg, >> >> Looks like a nice Healey..... Garage space??? Garage space!!! >> >> Wendell >> >> On Feb 26, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: >> >>> Seems pretty darned cheap to me, if it isn't a rust bucket... >>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2235181339.html >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Greg Tatarian >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wbain at sonic.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/markdarley at mac.com > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/nobbc at sonic.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/andypreston at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From nobbc at sonic.net Sat Feb 26 19:48:50 2011 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:48:50 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] AH3000 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6920B9.8060107@gmail.com> <361DAE40-E0BF-458C-ACC1-C1BDA4045CE5@mac.com> <4D69AD78.60101@sonic.net> <4ECFFF8B25134343A494C01C06006CBB@Bonusroom> Message-ID: <4D69BB92.50906@sonic.net> But no money changes hands until AFTER the inspection takes place. If it isn't "right" the money is not released. Am I missing something? Ron 58 MGA Norman S. Weinfeld wrote: > Looks fishy to me too... > > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Andy Preston wrote: > > >>The car looks great and is way under price if it's as good as it looks. >> I'm >>not keen on the purchasing program. I prefer to pay the money and get the >>car with the title from the seller. It could be a scam. >> >>Andy >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>On >>Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt >>Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 5:49 PM >>To: North Bay British Car Club >>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] AH3000 >> >>Sounds reasonable. There is an opportunity to inspect the car before >>funds release. >> >>Ron >>58 MGA >> >>Mark Darley wrote: >> >> >>>Is the Healey a scam? A friend enquired and got the following response: >>> >>> >>>>>My 1967 Austin-Healey 3000 Mark III BJ8 is still for sale for the >>>>>asking price of $21,000.As you've probably seen on my listing I >>>>>decided to lower the price, to avoid wasting time with negotiations >>>>>and find a buyer as soon as possible. >>>>> >>>>>Now about the vehicle Austin-Healey 3000 Mark III,It is a 38,000 >>>>>original miles,is in its original color of British Racing Green with >>>>>a Biscuit Interior and Tan Convertible Top; a matching numbers >>>>>car.The floors are new and in excellent condition. We had a new >>>>>biscuit leather interior installed with new carpeting, canvas >>>>>convertible top, and boot cover as well. >>>>> >>>>>I'm currently signed up for a protection program and I would like to >>>>>close the deal through them. You should know that it will allow you >>>>>to inspect the vehicle before paying me. You will have a 3-5 day >>>>>inspection period to decide whether you want to keep the vehicle or >>>>>not before they release the funds to me. Even if you pick the >>>>>vehicle or have it shipped payment must be submitted using their >>>>>system, but I assume there is nothing wrong with that.Where are you >>>>>located ? >>>>> >>>>>if you have any further questions please email me and I will gladly >>>>>answer your questions. >>>>> >>>>>Thank you, >>>>> >>> >>>Mark Darley >>>markdarley at mac.com >>>415 381 5452 >>> >>> >>> >>>On Feb 26, 2011, at 4:00 PM, wendell bain wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Greg, >>>> >>>>Looks like a nice Healey..... Garage space??? Garage space!!! >>>> >>>>Wendell >>>> >>>>On Feb 26, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Seems pretty darned cheap to me, if it isn't a rust bucket... >>>>>http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2235181339.html >>>>> >>>>>Cheers, >>>>>Greg Tatarian >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>>>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>>>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>>>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wbain at sonic.net >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/markdarley at mac.com >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/nobbc at sonic.net >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/andypreston at sbcglobal.net >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/nobbc at sonic.net From hawkview at sonic.net Sat Feb 26 19:59:03 2011 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:59:03 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] AH3000 In-Reply-To: <4D69BB92.50906@sonic.net> References: <4D6920B9.8060107@gmail.com><361DAE40-E0BF-458C-ACC1-C1BDA4045CE5@mac.com><4D69AD78.60101@sonic.net><4ECFFF8B25134343A494C01C06006CBB@Bonusroom> <4D69BB92.50906@sonic.net> Message-ID: <7B9965AA6F5D40F7AA3F26BF9E3C034F@williamsonPC> I know, it's tempting. Has anybody called? One more question? Would you give over your car to somebody for a few days to check it out? I know I wouldn't. There were and still are tons of scams on Ebay. Just be very careful, that all. Clif -----Original Message----- From: Ron Engelhardt Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 6:48 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] AH3000 But no money changes hands until AFTER the inspection takes place. If it isn't "right" the money is not released. Am I missing something? Ron 58 MGA Norman S. Weinfeld wrote: > Looks fishy to me too... > > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Andy Preston > wrote: > > >>The car looks great and is way under price if it's as good as it looks. >> I'm >>not keen on the purchasing program. I prefer to pay the money and get the >>car with the title from the seller. It could be a scam. >> >>Andy >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>On >>Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt >>Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 5:49 PM >>To: North Bay British Car Club >>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] AH3000 >> >>Sounds reasonable. There is an opportunity to inspect the car before >>funds release. >> >>Ron >>58 MGA >> >>Mark Darley wrote: >> >> >>>Is the Healey a scam? A friend enquired and got the following response: >>> >>> >>>>>My 1967 Austin-Healey 3000 Mark III BJ8 is still for sale for the >>>>>asking price of $21,000.As you've probably seen on my listing I >>>>>decided to lower the price, to avoid wasting time with negotiations >>>>>and find a buyer as soon as possible. >>>>> >>>>>Now about the vehicle Austin-Healey 3000 Mark III,It is a 38,000 >>>>>original miles,is in its original color of British Racing Green with >>>>>a Biscuit Interior and Tan Convertible Top; a matching numbers >>>>>car.The floors are new and in excellent condition. We had a new >>>>>biscuit leather interior installed with new carpeting, canvas >>>>>convertible top, and boot cover as well. >>>>> >>>>>I'm currently signed up for a protection program and I would like to >>>>>close the deal through them. You should know that it will allow you >>>>>to inspect the vehicle before paying me. You will have a 3-5 day >>>>>inspection period to decide whether you want to keep the vehicle or >>>>>not before they release the funds to me. Even if you pick the >>>>>vehicle or have it shipped payment must be submitted using their >>>>>system, but I assume there is nothing wrong with that.Where are you >>>>>located ? >>>>> >>>>>if you have any further questions please email me and I will gladly >>>>>answer your questions. >>>>> >>>>>Thank you, >>>>> >>> >>>Mark Darley >>>markdarley at mac.com >>>415 381 5452 >>> >>> >>> >>>On Feb 26, 2011, at 4:00 PM, wendell bain wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Greg, >>>> >>>>Looks like a nice Healey..... Garage space??? Garage space!!! >>>> >>>>Wendell >>>> >>>>On Feb 26, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Seems pretty darned cheap to me, if it isn't a rust bucket... >>>>>http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2235181339.html >>>>> >>>>>Cheers, >>>>>Greg Tatarian >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>>>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>>>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>>>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wbain at sonic.net >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/markdarley at mac.com >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/nobbc at sonic.net >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/andypreston at sbcglobal.net >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/nobbc at sonic.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From splath at comcast.net Sat Feb 26 20:28:31 2011 From: splath at comcast.net (Steve Plath) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:28:31 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] AH3000 In-Reply-To: <4D69BB92.50906@sonic.net> References: <4D6920B9.8060107@gmail.com> <361DAE40-E0BF-458C-ACC1-C1BDA4045CE5@mac.com> <4D69AD78.60101@sonic.net> <4ECFFF8B25134343A494C01C06006CBB@Bonusroom> <4D69BB92.50906@sonic.net> Message-ID: <000601cbd62e$699f5340$3cddf9c0$@net> I emailed the listing and got the identical message back. This feels like a scam. My sense is you will end up putting some amount into the "protection program" probably as a deposit until you "inspect the car" and that money will disappear before any inspection takes place. It's just too cheap a price for the car pictured and described. One can dream.................. Steve Plath -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 6:49 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] AH3000 But no money changes hands until AFTER the inspection takes place. If it isn't "right" the money is not released. Am I missing something? Ron 58 MGA Norman S. Weinfeld wrote: > Looks fishy to me too... > > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Andy Preston wrote: > > >>The car looks great and is way under price if it's as good as it looks. >> I'm >>not keen on the purchasing program. I prefer to pay the money and get the >>car with the title from the seller. It could be a scam. >> >>Andy >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>On >>Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt >>Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 5:49 PM >>To: North Bay British Car Club >>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] AH3000 >> >>Sounds reasonable. There is an opportunity to inspect the car before >>funds release. >> >>Ron >>58 MGA >> >>Mark Darley wrote: >> >> >>>Is the Healey a scam? A friend enquired and got the following response: >>> >>> >>>>>My 1967 Austin-Healey 3000 Mark III BJ8 is still for sale for the >>>>>asking price of $21,000.As you've probably seen on my listing I >>>>>decided to lower the price, to avoid wasting time with negotiations >>>>>and find a buyer as soon as possible. >>>>> >>>>>Now about the vehicle Austin-Healey 3000 Mark III,It is a 38,000 >>>>>original miles,is in its original color of British Racing Green with >>>>>a Biscuit Interior and Tan Convertible Top; a matching numbers >>>>>car.The floors are new and in excellent condition. We had a new >>>>>biscuit leather interior installed with new carpeting, canvas >>>>>convertible top, and boot cover as well. >>>>> >>>>>I'm currently signed up for a protection program and I would like to >>>>>close the deal through them. You should know that it will allow you >>>>>to inspect the vehicle before paying me. You will have a 3-5 day >>>>>inspection period to decide whether you want to keep the vehicle or >>>>>not before they release the funds to me. Even if you pick the >>>>>vehicle or have it shipped payment must be submitted using their >>>>>system, but I assume there is nothing wrong with that.Where are you >>>>>located ? >>>>> >>>>>if you have any further questions please email me and I will gladly >>>>>answer your questions. >>>>> >>>>>Thank you, >>>>> >>> >>>Mark Darley >>>markdarley at mac.com >>>415 381 5452 >>> >>> >>> >>>On Feb 26, 2011, at 4:00 PM, wendell bain wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Greg, >>>> >>>>Looks like a nice Healey..... Garage space??? Garage space!!! >>>> >>>>Wendell >>>> >>>>On Feb 26, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Seems pretty darned cheap to me, if it isn't a rust bucket... >>>>>http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2235181339.html >>>>> >>>>>Cheers, >>>>>Greg Tatarian >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>>>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>>>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>>>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wbain at sonic.net >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/markdarley at mac.com >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/nobbc at sonic.net >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/andypreston at sbcglobal.net >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/nobbc at sonic.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/splath at comcast.net From sarto477 at yahoo.com Sat Feb 26 20:28:00 2011 From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:28:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] AH3000 In-Reply-To: <7B9965AA6F5D40F7AA3F26BF9E3C034F@williamsonPC> Message-ID: <160122.17497.qm@web113509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Who hold the funds in his protection Plan? Sarto --- On Sat, 2/26/11, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote: From: Clif & Deborah Williamson Subject: Re: [Nobbc] AH3000 To: "North Bay British Car Club" Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011, 6:59 PM I know, it's tempting. Has anybody called? One more question? Would you give over your car to somebody for a few days to check it out? I know I wouldn't. There were and still are tons of scams on Ebay. Just be very careful, that all. Clif -----Original Message----- From: Ron Engelhardt Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 6:48 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] AH3000 But no money changes hands until AFTER the inspection takes place. If it isn't "right" the money is not released. Am I missing something? Ron 58 MGA Norman S. Weinfeld wrote: > Looks fishy to me too... > > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Andy Preston > wrote: > > >>The car looks great and is way under price if it's as good as it looks. >> I'm >>not keen on the purchasing program. I prefer to pay the money and get the >>car with the title from the seller. It could be a scam. >> >>Andy >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>On >>Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt >>Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 5:49 PM >>To: North Bay British Car Club >>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] AH3000 >> >>Sounds reasonable. There is an opportunity to inspect the car before >>funds release. >> >>Ron >>58 MGA >> >>Mark Darley wrote: >> >> >>>Is the Healey a scam? A friend enquired and got the following response: >>> >>> >>>>>My 1967 Austin-Healey 3000 Mark III BJ8 is still for sale for the >>>>>asking price of $21,000.As you've probably seen on my listing I >>>>>decided to lower the price, to avoid wasting time with negotiations >>>>>and find a buyer as soon as possible. >>>>> >>>>>Now about the vehicle Austin-Healey 3000 Mark III,It is a 38,000 >>>>>original miles,is in its original color of British Racing Green with >>>>>a Biscuit Interior and Tan Convertible Top; a matching numbers >>>>>car.The floors are new and in excellent condition. We had a new >>>>>biscuit leather interior installed with new carpeting, canvas >>>>>convertible top, and boot cover as well. >>>>> >>>>>I'm currently signed up for a protection program and I would like to >>>>>close the deal through them. You should know that it will allow you >>>>>to inspect the vehicle before paying me. You will have a 3-5 day >>>>>inspection period to decide whether you want to keep the vehicle or >>>>>not before they release the funds to me. Even if you pick the >>>>>vehicle or have it shipped payment must be submitted using their >>>>>system, but I assume there is nothing wrong with that.Where are you >>>>>located ? >>>>> >>>>>if you have any further questions please email me and I will gladly >>>>>answer your questions. >>>>> >>>>>Thank you, >>>>> >>> >>>Mark Darley >>>markdarley at mac.com >>>415 381 5452 >>> >>> >>> >>>On Feb 26, 2011, at 4:00 PM, wendell bain wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Greg, >>>> >>>>Looks like a nice Healey..... Garage space??? Garage space!!! >>>> >>>>Wendell >>>> >>>>On Feb 26, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Seems pretty darned cheap to me, if it isn't a rust bucket... >>>>>http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2235181339.html >>>>> >>>>>Cheers, >>>>>Greg Tatarian >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>>>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>>>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>>>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wbain at sonic.net >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/markdarley at mac.com >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/nobbc at sonic.net >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/andypreston at sbcglobal.net >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/nobbc at sonic.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/sarto477 at yahoo.com From gtwincams at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 20:39:43 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:39:43 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] AH3000 In-Reply-To: <000601cbd62e$699f5340$3cddf9c0$@net> References: <4D6920B9.8060107@gmail.com> <361DAE40-E0BF-458C-ACC1-C1BDA4045CE5@mac.com> <4D69AD78.60101@sonic.net> <4ECFFF8B25134343A494C01C06006CBB@Bonusroom> <4D69BB92.50906@sonic.net> <000601cbd62e$699f5340$3cddf9c0$@net> Message-ID: <4D69C77F.7090204@gmail.com> Yes, this really does sound like a slight variation on several scams I've seen on eBay and Craigslist. If a legitimate escrow company was holding the funds, I believe the "seller" would have given the name. Also, the price is just low enough to trigger the irrationality (aka greed) in many people. Oh well... Greg Tatarian From don at napanet.net Sat Feb 26 21:41:11 2011 From: don at napanet.net (Don) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:41:11 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] AH3000 In-Reply-To: <4D69C77F.7090204@gmail.com> References: <4D6920B9.8060107@gmail.com> <361DAE40-E0BF-458C-ACC1-C1BDA4045CE5@mac.com> <4D69AD78.60101@sonic.net> <4ECFFF8B25134343A494C01C06006CBB@Bonusroom> <4D69BB92.50906@sonic.net> <000601cbd62e$699f5340$3cddf9c0$@net> <4D69C77F.7090204@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20110227044204.4CC3BAEB0B@mail.dsl.napanet.net> It's a scam. There was a similar ad couple years ago, and placed on Craigslist in multiple cities. As I was looking for one, I think the car was an early MGB if my memory serves me correctly. Same pristine example of car, and displayed in a very attractive setting. And of course, similar strange buying instructions. This car is also advertised on CL in Los Angeles. At the price they have it advertised at, one ad in Fresno would sell it if it was legitimate. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/cto/2235849091.html At 07:39 PM 2/26/2011, Greg Tatarian wrote: >Yes, this really does sound like a slight variation on several scams >I've seen on eBay and Craigslist. If a legitimate escrow company was >holding the funds, I believe the "seller" would have given the name. >Also, the price is just low enough to trigger the irrationality (aka >greed) in many people. > >Oh well... > >Greg Tatarian >_ From cobra289 at sbcglobal.net Sat Feb 26 21:59:15 2011 From: cobra289 at sbcglobal.net (PAUL HARPER) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:59:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] AH3000 In-Reply-To: <20110227044204.4CC3BAEB0B@mail.dsl.napanet.net> References: <4D6920B9.8060107@gmail.com> <361DAE40-E0BF-458C-ACC1-C1BDA4045CE5@mac.com> <4D69AD78.60101@sonic.net> <4ECFFF8B25134343A494C01C06006CBB@Bonusroom> <4D69BB92.50906@sonic.net> <000601cbd62e$699f5340$3cddf9c0$@net> <4D69C77F.7090204@gmail.com> <20110227044204.4CC3BAEB0B@mail.dsl.napanet.net> Message-ID: <110988.39847.qm@web180105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> You're right the ad is currently appearing in 19 other cities across the USA. Paul ________________________________ From: Don To: nobbc at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 8:41:11 PM Subject: [Nobbc] AH3000 It's a scam. There was a similar ad couple years ago, and placed on Craigslist in multiple cities. As I was looking for one, I think the car was an early MGB if my memory serves me correctly. Same pristine example of car, and displayed in a very attractive setting. And of course, similar strange buying instructions. This car is also advertised on CL in Los Angeles. At the price they have it advertised at, one ad in Fresno would sell it if it was legitimate. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/cto/2235849091.html At 07:39 PM 2/26/2011, Greg Tatarian wrote: > Yes, this really does sound like a slight variation on several scams I've seen >on eBay and Craigslist. If a legitimate escrow company was holding the funds, I >believe the "seller" would have given the name. Also, the price is just low >enough to trigger the irrationality (aka greed) in many people. > > Oh well... > > Greg Tatarian > _ _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/cobra289 at sbcglobal.net From rlmossholder at comcast.net Sun Feb 27 07:04:05 2011 From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:04:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper Switch, Flywheel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <330683337.1612469.1298815445626.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Sounds good to me. I looked for the wiper switch, and I seem to remember throwing it in the trash, because it had a leak. Washer fluid and electricity don't mix well. Cheers, Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawson Church" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 1:51:19 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper Switch, Flywheel Where did the day go Friday! I'll come over Monday. Happy fathering till then! Dawson On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:58 AM, wrote: > Hi Dawson, > Any time this afternoon is fine with me. Monday is OK too. > Rich > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dawson Church" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:25:46 AM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper > Switch, Flywheel > > Fantastic! > > Can I swing by some time today (Friday) or Monday to pick it up? > > I'm happy to pay you for it. > > I'm also looking for a new bell housing. There's a tube pressed into the > back of the bell housing that holds the transmission rear oil seal in > place, > and mine is sheared off. Rather than get the tube, and have it pressed into > the old bell housing, it just occurred to me to look for a replacement bell > housing. > > Also, this guy has tons of parts, in the event you need something: > > http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/pts/2226506102.html > > Dawson > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 2:24 PM, wrote: > > > Hi Dawson, > > > > Yes, I have the cast bucket. It's an orange/red color. > > I'll look for the wiper switch this afternoon. > > If I can't find it, I believe Rimmer Brothers in England has them. > > Just a general search on ebay for "Triumph Spitfire" will reveal > thousands > > of parts and accessories both new and used. Browsing ebay will also give > you > > a good idea of what things should cost. I think Moss is too expensive. > > > > Cheers, > > Rich > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Fawsonrom: "Dawson Church" > > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:07:49 AM > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, > Wiper > > Switch, Flywheel > > > > Thanks, Rich! > > > > I need the cast headlight bucket. Do you have one? > > > > I've tried all the usual suppliers for the wiper switch, no luck. > > > > Thanks also for the ebay tip, I see quite a few options there! > > > > Dawson > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:06 AM, wrote: > > > > > Hi Dawson, > > > > > > Do you need the chrome bezel or the cast headlight bucket? > > > > > > The wiper switch is an expensive one because it is also the pump for > the > > > wiper fluid. These can be hard to find. I think I have one, but I'm not > > sure > > > if it's in working condition. You're welcome to it, if I can find it. I > > > replaced all of the switches in my dash for more reliable ones. > > > > > > As for the flywheel, I had to replace mine with a new one. I went with > a > > > Fidanza aluminum flywheel that I bought it on ebay. It makes a huge > > > difference in the throttle response. If you do a search on ebay for > > "Triumph > > > Spitfire aluminum flywheel" it should come up. Price was pretty > > reasonable > > > too. > > > Sorry I don't have an extra tach. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Rich > > > > > > From: "Dawson Church" > > > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:02:43 PM > > > Subject: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper > > > Switch, Flywheel > > > > > > Hi Friends, > > > > > > Anyone have any of these 4 parts? The wiper switch is for models from > > 1976 > > > onward. The flywheel is for the 1500 cc engine models. The other parts > > are > > > common to all model years. > > > > > > I could also use a decent set of aftermarket seats, if anyone has a set > > > they'd like to see the back of. > > > > > > Can you please let me know ASAP, otherwise I have to make my periodic > > > contribution to the retirement fund of the owner of Moss Motors! > > > > > > -- > > > Dawson > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Dawson > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > > > > > > -- > Dawson > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > -- Dawson _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net From gtwincams at gmail.com Mon Feb 28 08:57:22 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 07:57:22 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] This one looks real! Message-ID: <4D6BC5E2.3040901@gmail.com> Well, this MGB GT looks the real deal, unlike the AH3000 we've all been talking about. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CALIFORNIACLASSIX-1966-MGB-GT-w-45-373-orig-miles-/160550203958?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item256189b236#ht_14103wt_1165 Cheers, Greg Tatarian From norman.weinfeld at gmail.com Mon Feb 28 09:17:12 2011 From: norman.weinfeld at gmail.com (Norman S. Weinfeld) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:17:12 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] This one looks real! In-Reply-To: <4D6BC5E2.3040901@gmail.com> References: <4D6BC5E2.3040901@gmail.com> Message-ID: Now that is a sweet little car. Wonder what the reserve is. On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > Well, this MGB GT looks the real deal, unlike the AH3000 we've all been > talking about. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CALIFORNIACLASSIX-1966-MGB-GT-w-45-373-orig-miles-/160550203958?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item256189b236#ht_14103wt_1165< > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CALIFORNIACLASSIX-1966-MGB-GT-w-45-373-orig-miles-/160550203958?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item256189b236#ht_14103wt_1165 > > > > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com From gtwincams at gmail.com Mon Feb 28 09:29:25 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:29:25 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] This one looks real! In-Reply-To: References: <4D6BC5E2.3040901@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D6BCD65.2050204@gmail.com> I think this is a tough one, because MGB GTs don't fetch big money normally. I do think it will ultimately sell for a relatively high price, but I predict it will take a couple of times at bat, then go to a really happy buyer. Would actually be cool if it stayed in Santa Barbara - it's been there 45 years! Another prediction; reserve at $20k, selling for $21-23k eventually. Looks like the owner has an experienced company marketing the car for her, so no bargains to be had, is my guess. On 2/28/2011 8:17 AM, Norman S. Weinfeld wrote: > Now that is a sweet little car. Wonder what the reserve is. > > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: From dawsonchurch at gmail.com Mon Feb 28 15:26:05 2011 From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com (Dawson Church) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:26:05 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper Switch, Flywheel In-Reply-To: <1461334932.1540806.1298660322530.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1461334932.1540806.1298660322530.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Hi Rich, About to head over, just discovered I can't find your phone number and address! Can you email to me. Thanks! Dawson On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:58 AM, wrote: > Hi Dawson, > Any time this afternoon is fine with me. Monday is OK too. > Rich > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dawson Church" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:25:46 AM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper > Switch, Flywheel > > Fantastic! > > Can I swing by some time today (Friday) or Monday to pick it up? > > I'm happy to pay you for it. > > I'm also looking for a new bell housing. There's a tube pressed into the > back of the bell housing that holds the transmission rear oil seal in > place, > and mine is sheared off. Rather than get the tube, and have it pressed into > the old bell housing, it just occurred to me to look for a replacement bell > housing. > > Also, this guy has tons of parts, in the event you need something: > > http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/pts/2226506102.html > > Dawson > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 2:24 PM, wrote: > > > Hi Dawson, > > > > Yes, I have the cast bucket. It's an orange/red color. > > I'll look for the wiper switch this afternoon. > > If I can't find it, I believe Rimmer Brothers in England has them. > > Just a general search on ebay for "Triumph Spitfire" will reveal > thousands > > of parts and accessories both new and used. Browsing ebay will also give > you > > a good idea of what things should cost. I think Moss is too expensive. > > > > Cheers, > > Rich > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Fawsonrom: "Dawson Church" > > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:07:49 AM > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, > Wiper > > Switch, Flywheel > > > > Thanks, Rich! > > > > I need the cast headlight bucket. Do you have one? > > > > I've tried all the usual suppliers for the wiper switch, no luck. > > > > Thanks also for the ebay tip, I see quite a few options there! > > > > Dawson > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:06 AM, wrote: > > > > > Hi Dawson, > > > > > > Do you need the chrome bezel or the cast headlight bucket? > > > > > > The wiper switch is an expensive one because it is also the pump for > the > > > wiper fluid. These can be hard to find. I think I have one, but I'm not > > sure > > > if it's in working condition. You're welcome to it, if I can find it. I > > > replaced all of the switches in my dash for more reliable ones. > > > > > > As for the flywheel, I had to replace mine with a new one. I went with > a > > > Fidanza aluminum flywheel that I bought it on ebay. It makes a huge > > > difference in the throttle response. If you do a search on ebay for > > "Triumph > > > Spitfire aluminum flywheel" it should come up. Price was pretty > > reasonable > > > too. > > > Sorry I don't have an extra tach. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Rich > > > > > > From: "Dawson Church" > > > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:02:43 PM > > > Subject: [Nobbc] Need Spitfire Driver Side Headlamp Bezel, Tach, Wiper > > > Switch, Flywheel > > > > > > Hi Friends, > > > > > > Anyone have any of these 4 parts? The wiper switch is for models from > > 1976 > > > onward. The flywheel is for the 1500 cc engine models. The other parts > > are > > > common to all model years. > > > > > > I could also use a decent set of aftermarket seats, if anyone has a set > > > they'd like to see the back of. > > > > > > Can you please let me know ASAP, otherwise I have to make my periodic > > > contribution to the retirement fund of the owner of Moss Motors! > > > > > > -- > > > Dawson > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Dawson > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > > > > > > -- > Dawson > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > -- Dawson From andypreston at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 28 19:45:48 2011 From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (Andy Preston) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:45:48 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] This one looks real! In-Reply-To: <4D6BCD65.2050204@gmail.com> References: <4D6BC5E2.3040901@gmail.com> <4D6BCD65.2050204@gmail.com> Message-ID: This is a top price for a GT. The O/D is not original to the car though, and there are a few other little items that aren't quite right for this kind of money. Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Tatarian Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 8:29 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] This one looks real! I think this is a tough one, because MGB GTs don't fetch big money normally. I do think it will ultimately sell for a relatively high price, but I predict it will take a couple of times at bat, then go to a really happy buyer. Would actually be cool if it stayed in Santa Barbara - it's been there 45 years! Another prediction; reserve at $20k, selling for $21-23k eventually. Looks like the owner has an experienced company marketing the car for her, so no bargains to be had, is my guess. On 2/28/2011 8:17 AM, Norman S. Weinfeld wrote: > Now that is a sweet little car. Wonder what the reserve is. > > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote: _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/andypreston at sbcglobal.net From gtwincams at gmail.com Mon Feb 28 20:14:32 2011 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:14:32 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] This one looks real! In-Reply-To: References: <4D6BC5E2.3040901@gmail.com> <4D6BCD65.2050204@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D6C6498.3090104@gmail.com> Well, I overestimated the reserve - it has been met,, and the current price is $17k. The variations from originality might appeal to some, as they did to the original owner. Should be interesting to see the final price. Greg Tatarian On 2/28/2011 6:45 PM, Andy Preston wrote: > This is a top price for a GT. The O/D is not original to the car though, > and there are a few other little items that aren't quite right for this kind > of money. > > Andy