From hawkview at sonic.net  Fri Oct  1 10:03:57 2010
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 09:03:57 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS is up for grabs!
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Hello Ron
Clif here.  I just talked to Dee.  She is going to send photos, but it looks 
like it will be difficult to be part of this sale since it is happening in 
Colorado.  She is going to send me photos today.  She said she has two 
people that are going to be seeing the car Saturday so it would seem any 
offer would have to be made sight unseen other than the photos.  Do you or 
anybody else have any first hand knowledge of the condition and perhaps an 
evaluation.  $10-12K seems like a really good deal, but condition is 
everything.
Thanks,
Clif  74 JH

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:13 PM
To: <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS is up for grabs!

> NOBBC founder Steve Lehmann's TR4A IRS is for sale by his widow Dee. This 
> is an incredible car and should stay in the Nobbc family. I wish I could 
> afford the time and effort to have another British car because this is a 
> great car and a great buy. Long time members know this car, know the 
> excellent condition it's in and it's long Nobbc history. I hope one of you 
> steals it and brings it back to Sonoma County. I am sending it out to the 
> Nobbc roster as well so some of you may receive this twice
>
> Here's what Dee had to say:
>
> Hi Ron,
>
> Sorry I haven't been in touch for so long. I'm sure you understand why.
>
> It was an extremely difficult decision to sell the Triumph, but I cannot 
> afford
> to maintain or repair her if any mechanical malady crops up. I also don't 
> drive
> a stick shift very well. :(   The details are as follows: 1967 Triumph 
> TR4A,
> Siren Red with black vinyl interior, runs like a champ. Very low miles. 
> (Not
> certain of correct mileage, because Steve replaced a broken speedometer in
> 2007). All the gauges work, except for the oil readout, not certain why it 
> isn't
> functioning; probably a simple fix. This vehicle needs an owner who will 
> give
> the car plenty of TLC and care that Steve did.
> Asking price $10-12K negotiable. My contact information is via 
> didun64 at yahoo.com
> or 970-275-5292.
>
>
> Attached are a few photos of her taken after the 27th annual British Car
> Conclave in Arvada, Colorado on Sunday, September 19th.
>
>
> How are you and your family? How is NOBBC faring these days? I'm grateful 
> to you
> that you are carrying on Steve's legacy with the car club, and the 
> Memoriam
> header on the Home Page is a wonderful tribute. :)
>
> Thanks so much for your assistance!
>
> Dee
>
>
> I can forward the pictures to anyone interested but it is a really 
> beautiful car as anyone who has seen her can attest.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
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From norman.v at comcast.net  Fri Oct  1 10:15:39 2010
From: norman.v at comcast.net (norman.v at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 16:15:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS is up for grabs!
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competition?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, October 1, 2010 9:03:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS is up for grabs!

Hello Ron
Clif here. B I just talked to Dee. B She is going to send photos, but it looks
like it will be difficult to be part of this sale since it is happening in
Colorado. B She is going to send me photos today. B She said she has two
people that are going to be seeing the car Saturday so it would seem any
offer would have to be made sight unseen other than the photos. B Do you or
anybody else have any first hand knowledge of the condition and perhaps an
evaluation. B $10-12K seems like a really good deal, but condition is
everything.
Thanks,
Clif B 74 JH

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:13 PM
To: <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS is up for grabs!

> NOBBC founder Steve Lehmann's TR4A IRS is for sale by his widow Dee. This
> is an incredible car and should stay in the Nobbc family. I wish I could
> afford the time and effort to have another British car because this is a
> great car and a great buy. Long time members know this car, know the
> excellent condition it's in and it's long Nobbc history. I hope one of you
> steals it and brings it back to Sonoma County. I am sending it out to the
> Nobbc roster as well so some of you may receive this twice
>
> Here's what Dee had to say:
>
> Hi Ron,
>
> Sorry I haven't been in touch for so long. I'm sure you understand why.
>
> It was an extremely difficult decision to sell the Triumph, but I cannot
> afford
> to maintain or repair her if any mechanical malady crops up. I also don't
> drive
> a stick shift very well. :( B  The details are as follows: 1967 Triumph
> TR4A,
> Siren Red with black vinyl interior, runs like a champ. Very low miles.
> (Not
> certain of correct mileage, because Steve replaced a broken speedometer in
> 2007). All the gauges work, except for the oil readout, not certain why it
> isn't
> functioning; probably a simple fix. This vehicle needs an owner who will
> give
> the car plenty of TLC and care that Steve did.
> Asking price $10-12K negotiable. My contact information is via
> didun64 at yahoo.com
> or 970-275-5292.
>
>
> Attached are a few photos of her taken after the 27th annual British Car
> Conclave in Arvada, Colorado on Sunday, September 19th.
>
>
> How are you and your family? How is NOBBC faring these days? I'm grateful
> to you
> that you are carrying on Steve's legacy with the car club, and the
> Memoriam
> header on the Home Page is a wonderful tribute. :)
>
> Thanks so much for your assistance!
>
> Dee
>
>
> I can forward the pictures to anyone interested but it is a really
> beautiful car as anyone who has seen her can attest.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Fri Oct  1 12:03:49 2010
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 11:03:49 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS is up for grabs!
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Sounds like no competition at all.
Somebody from the club is flying out to Colorado to buy it.   So I would 
consider it sold.
Dee is very happy that it is coming to California.  And very appreciative of 
Ron's effort to help her out.  Good on you Ron.
Clif 74 JH

--------------------------------------------------
From: <norman.v at comcast.net>
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 9:15 AM
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS is up for grabs!

> competition?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 1, 2010 9:03:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS is up for grabs!
>
> Hello Ron
> Clif here. B I just talked to Dee. B She is going to send photos, but it 
> looks
> like it will be difficult to be part of this sale since it is happening in
> Colorado. B She is going to send me photos today. B She said she has two
> people that are going to be seeing the car Saturday so it would seem any
> offer would have to be made sight unseen other than the photos. B Do you 
> or
> anybody else have any first hand knowledge of the condition and perhaps an
> evaluation. B $10-12K seems like a really good deal, but condition is
> everything.
> Thanks,
> Clif B 74 JH
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:13 PM
> To: <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS is up for grabs!
>
>> NOBBC founder Steve Lehmann's TR4A IRS is for sale by his widow Dee. This
>> is an incredible car and should stay in the Nobbc family. I wish I could
>> afford the time and effort to have another British car because this is a
>> great car and a great buy. Long time members know this car, know the
>> excellent condition it's in and it's long Nobbc history. I hope one of 
>> you
>> steals it and brings it back to Sonoma County. I am sending it out to the
>> Nobbc roster as well so some of you may receive this twice
>>
>> Here's what Dee had to say:
>>
>> Hi Ron,
>>
>> Sorry I haven't been in touch for so long. I'm sure you understand why.
>>
>> It was an extremely difficult decision to sell the Triumph, but I cannot
>> afford
>> to maintain or repair her if any mechanical malady crops up. I also don't
>> drive
>> a stick shift very well. :( B  The details are as follows: 1967 Triumph
>> TR4A,
>> Siren Red with black vinyl interior, runs like a champ. Very low miles.
>> (Not
>> certain of correct mileage, because Steve replaced a broken speedometer 
>> in
>> 2007). All the gauges work, except for the oil readout, not certain why 
>> it
>> isn't
>> functioning; probably a simple fix. This vehicle needs an owner who will
>> give
>> the car plenty of TLC and care that Steve did.
>> Asking price $10-12K negotiable. My contact information is via
>> didun64 at yahoo.com
>> or 970-275-5292.
>>
>>
>> Attached are a few photos of her taken after the 27th annual British Car
>> Conclave in Arvada, Colorado on Sunday, September 19th.
>>
>>
>> How are you and your family? How is NOBBC faring these days? I'm grateful
>> to you
>> that you are carrying on Steve's legacy with the car club, and the
>> Memoriam
>> header on the Home Page is a wonderful tribute. :)
>>
>> Thanks so much for your assistance!
>>
>> Dee
>>
>>
>> I can forward the pictures to anyone interested but it is a really
>> beautiful car as anyone who has seen her can attest.
>>
>> Ron
>> 58 MGA
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Fri Oct  1 12:22:14 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 11:22:14 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS is up for grabs!
In-Reply-To: <5FFD4C0820C645F2A406A6A347EF6A6B@williamsonPC>
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	<5FFD4C0820C645F2A406A6A347EF6A6B@williamsonPC>
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Any early club member can attest to the excellent condition of this car. 
Steve kept her it top condition mechanically and looks both. Maybe not a 
hundred point car but not too far off. I'll try to find some old club 
pictures and see if Tcherek can post them on our web page. I'm really 
busy with family stuff now so it might be a while.

Ron
58 MGA

Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:

> Hello Ron
> Clif here.  I just talked to Dee.  She is going to send photos, but it 
> looks like it will be difficult to be part of this sale since it is 
> happening in Colorado.  She is going to send me photos today.  She said 
> she has two people that are going to be seeing the car Saturday so it 
> would seem any offer would have to be made sight unseen other than the 
> photos.  Do you or anybody else have any first hand knowledge of the 
> condition and perhaps an evaluation.  $10-12K seems like a really good 
> deal, but condition is everything.
> Thanks,
> Clif  74 JH
> 
> --------------------------------------------------

From nobbc at sonic.net  Fri Oct  1 12:28:08 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 11:28:08 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS is up for grabs!
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	<8C01E881C86A4084932A6DA6E14801E4@williamsonPC>
Message-ID: <4CA62838.7070304@sonic.net>

This is great news, it'll be really good to see Steve's car again. Any 
idea who bought her?

Ron
58 MGA

Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:

> Sounds like no competition at all.
> Somebody from the club is flying out to Colorado to buy it.   So I would 
> consider it sold.
> Dee is very happy that it is coming to California.  And very 
> appreciative of Ron's effort to help her out.  Good on you Ron.
> Clif 74 JH

From mewgull at sonic.net  Fri Oct  1 12:28:13 2010
From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 11:28:13 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS is up for grabs!
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Yeah, that would be me.  I'm going to have to be at SFO at Oh-dark-
thirty with an expected splash-down in Denver at 10:35 MST.   There is
a problem however... apparently rental cars are practically
unavailable!   I don't understand..... is there a big game going on
this weekend?  Or a Tea Party fandango?  What's happening?

Anyway... we're pretty much all set and I plan a beautiful autumn
drive back to Calif over the golden aspen infested Rockies and across
the Great Basin.

I'm pretty jazzed and very pleased that this is all coming together
and thanks indeed to Ron for letting us know.

Dee is also a brewer of home-made root beer so that was the clincher
for me.   She's brewing up a batch for the occasion.  Yahoo....

I'll keep the list posted as I progress Westward and encounter Wi-Fi
hot spots.

Gerry

On Oct 1, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:

> Sounds like no competition at all.
> Somebody from the club is flying out to Colorado to buy it.   So I
> would consider it sold.
> Dee is very happy that it is coming to California.  And very
> appreciative of Ron's effort to help her out.  Good on you Ron.
> Clif 74 JH

G. Mugele
mewgull at mugele.net

*** I am certain there is too much certainty in the world.   --
Michael Crichton

From norman.v at comcast.net  Fri Oct  1 12:58:41 2010
From: norman.v at comcast.net (norman.v at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 18:58:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS is up for grabs!
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Is that "someone from the club" you? If you buy this car it will be quite a
known commodity at least among the Brit car fans in Nor Cal. But of course
they will all want to pay what you paid.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, October 1, 2010 11:28:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS is up for grabs!

This is great news, it'll be really good to see Steve's car again. Any
idea who bought her?

Ron
58 MGA

Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:

> Sounds like no competition at all.
> Somebody from the club is flying out to Colorado to buy it. B  So I would
> consider it sold.
> Dee is very happy that it is coming to California. B And very
> appreciative of Ron's effort to help her out. B Good on you Ron.
> Clif 74 JH
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From jinger at pacbell.net  Fri Oct  1 13:01:03 2010
From: jinger at pacbell.net (Alan and Paula Spencer)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 12:01:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS is up for grabs!
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Congratulations!!  I look forward to seeing it.

Alan

PS:  Must say the Land
Rover community is very responsive.  I've now heard from 
5 or 6 owners of
blue cars of various vintages.  The first choice for the art 
director remains
a blue FJ40, but the Landcruiser guys seem to be asleep!
________________________________
From: G. Mugele <mewgull at sonic.net>
To: North
Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010
11:28:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS is up for grabs!

Yeah, that
would be me.  I'm going to have to be at SFO at Oh-dark-
thirty with an
expected splash-down in Denver at 10:35 MST.  There is
a problem however...
apparently rental cars are practically
unavailable!  I don't understand.....
is there a big game going on
this weekend?  Or a Tea Party fandango?  What's
happening?

Anyway... we're pretty much all set and I plan a beautiful autumn
drive back to Calif over the golden aspen infested Rockies and across
the
Great Basin.

I'm pretty jazzed and very pleased that this is all coming
together
and thanks indeed to Ron for letting us know.

Dee is also a brewer
of home-made root beer so that was the clincher
for me.  She's brewing up a
batch for the occasion.  Yahoo....

I'll keep the list posted as I progress
Westward and encounter Wi-Fi
hot spots.

Gerry

On Oct 1, 2010, at 11:03 AM,
Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:

> Sounds like no competition at all.
>
Somebody from the club is flying out to Colorado to buy it.  So I
> would
consider it sold.
> Dee is very happy that it is coming to California.  And
very
> appreciative of Ron's effort to help her out.  Good on you Ron.
> Clif
74 JH

G. Mugele
mewgull at mugele.net

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certainty in the world.  --
Michael Crichton
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From wbain at sonic.net  Fri Oct  1 14:37:41 2010
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 13:37:41 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Looking for Land Rover for North Bay Photo Shoot!
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Hi Alan,

Got your voicemail also. I don't know of anyone who has a blue Land  
Rover
Defender or older. Have you tried a Bay Area Land Rover Club??? Maybe  
you have done
this already. So far they seem pretty much useless. If anything  
changes I will let you know.

Cheers,

Wendell

On Sep 29, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Alan and Paula Spencer wrote:

> If you know of anybody who has a Land Rover short wheelbase  
> Defender or older
> model, preferably blue, please put them in touch with me asap.   
> It's needed
> for
> a commercial for Converse shoes all day on 10/10, or possibly 10/9  
> (they
> haven't
> finalized their schedule yet).  Various locations in the North Bay
> will be used,
> all on back roads.  Worth $$$ to the owner.
> Alan Spencer
> 415
> 457 3721
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From wbain at sonic.net  Fri Oct  1 14:52:43 2010
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 13:52:43 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS is up for grabs!
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Gerry,

Great!! Glad to hear it will be coming to CA.

All the best,

Wendell

On Oct 1, 2010, at 11:28 AM, G. Mugele wrote:

> Yeah, that would be me.  I'm going to have to be at SFO at Oh-dark-
> thirty with an expected splash-down in Denver at 10:35 MST.   There is
> a problem however... apparently rental cars are practically
> unavailable!   I don't understand..... is there a big game going on
> this weekend?  Or a Tea Party fandango?  What's happening?
>
> Anyway... we're pretty much all set and I plan a beautiful autumn
> drive back to Calif over the golden aspen infested Rockies and across
> the Great Basin.
>
> I'm pretty jazzed and very pleased that this is all coming together
> and thanks indeed to Ron for letting us know.
>
> Dee is also a brewer of home-made root beer so that was the clincher
> for me.   She's brewing up a batch for the occasion.  Yahoo....
>
> I'll keep the list posted as I progress Westward and encounter Wi-Fi
> hot spots.
>
> Gerry
>
> On Oct 1, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>
>> Sounds like no competition at all.
>> Somebody from the club is flying out to Colorado to buy it.   So I
>> would consider it sold.
>> Dee is very happy that it is coming to California.  And very
>> appreciative of Ron's effort to help her out.  Good on you Ron.
>> Clif 74 JH
>
> G. Mugele
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>
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From mowog at sonic.net  Fri Oct  1 15:08:32 2010
From: mowog at sonic.net (Rod Williams)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 14:08:32 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS is up for grabs!
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On Oct 1, 2010, at 11:28 AM, G. Mugele wrote:

> I'll keep the list posted as I progress Westward and encounter Wi-Fi
> hot spots.

What a great idea. Please do. We're waiting to see the TR back in NorCal. It
probably knows the way to Dry Creek Valley all by itself.

Best of luck
--
Rod Williams
Petaluma, California
1967 MGB

From nobbc at sonic.net  Fri Oct  1 15:13:47 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 14:13:47 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS is up for grabs!
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Sounds like a wonderful trip. I'm so glad that you are bringing Steve's 
car back where it belongs! Now you will need to bring it to some club 
events.

Ron
58 MGA

G. Mugele wrote:

> Yeah, that would be me.  I'm going to have to be at SFO at Oh-dark-
> thirty with an expected splash-down in Denver at 10:35 MST.   There is
> a problem however... apparently rental cars are practically
> unavailable!   I don't understand..... is there a big game going on
> this weekend?  Or a Tea Party fandango?  What's happening?
> 
> Anyway... we're pretty much all set and I plan a beautiful autumn
> drive back to Calif over the golden aspen infested Rockies and across
> the Great Basin.
> 
> I'm pretty jazzed and very pleased that this is all coming together
> and thanks indeed to Ron for letting us know.
> 
> Dee is also a brewer of home-made root beer so that was the clincher
> for me.   She's brewing up a batch for the occasion.  Yahoo....
> 
> I'll keep the list posted as I progress Westward and encounter Wi-Fi
> hot spots.
> 
> Gerry
> 
> On Oct 1, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
> 
>> Sounds like no competition at all.
>> Somebody from the club is flying out to Colorado to buy it.   So I
>> would consider it sold.
>> Dee is very happy that it is coming to California.  And very
>> appreciative of Ron's effort to help her out.  Good on you Ron.
>> Clif 74 JH
> 
> 
> G. Mugele
> mewgull at mugele.net
> 
> *** I am certain there is too much certainty in the world.   --
> Michael Crichton
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From mewgull at sonic.net  Fri Oct  1 17:03:48 2010
From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 16:03:48 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS is up for grabs!
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Oh you guys just don't appreciate the REAL Brit automotive genius of
the Land Rover..... like you always pretended that it wasn't a sports
car.... harumph....

And on THAT subject Wendell, to which group do you refer?   The club
for the Yuppie versions (Disco and Rangies) is indeed fairly useless
but the Series LR crowd are quite rabid about their marque and an
amazingly knowledgeable group.   Yeah... most of 'em have never even
heard of an HRG but when it comes to the products from Lode Lane
Solihull, they all sound like savants.

Gerry

On Oct 1, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote:

> Sounds like a wonderful trip. I'm so glad that you are bringing
> Steve's car back where it belongs! Now you will need to bring it to
> some club events

G. Mugele
mewgull at mugele.net

*** I am certain there is too much certainty in the world.   --
Michael Crichton

From wkilch at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct  2 23:00:48 2010
From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (wkilch at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 05:00:48 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc]  CSRG
Message-ID: <mailman.16.1286082010.22015.nobbc@autox.team.net>

What a great day at the races. Perfect weather. Good company.  Met some nice folks from MGOC and the GGAHC who we parked with(on asphalt this time). Fewer V8's more imported sports cars. There were charity track rides in race cars starting at $50. I'll be doing that next year. Some of the AH people are going back again tomorrow. I highly recommend going if you can. Its a heck of a deal and the proceeds go to a children's charity.

Walter  
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From ctwehn at hughes.net  Sun Oct  3 10:16:56 2010
From: ctwehn at hughes.net (Charlie Wehn)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 16:16:56 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Nobbc] CSRG
References: <20101003050030.E260A18766D@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <414893229.297212.1286122617739.JavaMail.mail@webmail11>

I second that note, what a great day. I will also be saving up for a ride next
year. $150 to ride in the black Shadow CanAm 101 car is a chance in a
lifetime. I stayedB for the last qualifying race, and those cars are amazingly
fast, I got goosebumps watching every lap.
If you have the chance, go there today, great cars and great racing.

Charlie TR6 & 8

On Oct 2, 2010, wkilch at sbcglobal.net wrote:

What a great day at the races. Perfect weather. Good company. Met some nice
folks from MGOC and the GGAHC who we parked with(on asphalt this time). Fewer
V8's more imported sports cars. There were charity track rides in race cars
starting at $50. I'll be doing that next year. Some of the AH people are going
back again tomorrow. I highly recommend going if you can. Its a heck of a deal
and the proceeds go to a children's charity.

Walter
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From mewgull at sonic.net  Sun Oct  3 22:34:37 2010
From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 21:34:37 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS has been grabbed... (Was: Steve's TR4A IRS
 is up for grabs!)
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Diana (Steve's window and AKA Dee) met me at Denver Intn'l yesterday
and shortly thereafter introduced me to my latest mistress.   After
the paperwork was done we toasted the deal with some of Dee's home
brew (rootbeer) and I set out on the adventure.

Yes... some might say having a mistress 22 years younger is of
questionable taste.  Still, she's hot looking, even at her age.  It's
fun enticing my new girlfriend to come home with me.  She's more
delicate than I remember but still strong.  I headed out from Dee's
place to go up into the Rockies to visit one of the Land Rover
Brethren in Baily, Colorado.   This took far longer than anticipated
and the darkness monsters began threatening us.  Seems that she's a
bit bashful and doesn't want to offend the darkness by having any
lights.   Well....we do have brake lights and that's a very good thing
since people around here seem to want to follow far too close.

We got as far as Westminster and I looked for some housing that might
offer a roof for both of us.   Well the Westin hotel there was plenty
pretentious enough for a tryst with one's latest love but we had to
pay dearly for it.   It did rain a drab during the night and she
stayed dry.  She also apparently garnered enough attention that the
parking valet looked up TRs on the net so he could explain it to
people asking about her.  (incidentally no parking varlet was allowed
to actually touch her)

This morning the wake-up was tough.   She wanted to sleep in but I
choked her severely until she came to life.   In spite of that
brutality once on the road we went well and got to the Land Rover
friend's place in time to mooch an early brunch.   His children ooooo-
ed and ahhhhhh-ed at the pretty red charmer.  Then we headed south on
US 285 and West on US 160.   We crossed three 10K passes today and she
was a good sport about it.  Although she did make it clear that she'd
prefer a little more oxygen to breathe.   And then there were those
little rain bursts we passed through... muddied up the exterior
somewhat but the interior only got a few drops.   Maybe I'll have to
put up the top tomorrow.   Tonight we're in Pagosa Springs, CO....
about an hour and something East of Durango.

The plan from here is to try to avoid the rain but that's looking
rather difficult.  Nevertheless, in the morning, it's off to Durango
and then down past Mesa Verde, to Four Corners, across a piece of the
Navajo Reservation and ending up in Flagstaff at the home of another
of the Land Rover afflicted.  We are going to have a serious look at
the lights and wipers to see if we can't get them to work.... heck
maybe the horn will get some attention too.  Until she's got working
lights I'm imposing a sundown curfew.

Here's a link to a couple photos from today:
http://picasaweb.google.com/MewGull9/TR4A

One image was on the road to Bailey about noon and the other was shot
a little after six this evening at an overlook on the west side of
Wolf Creek Pass.... on the way into Pagosa Springs.  The aspens are
showing some color, as you can see.

Gerry



G. Mugele
mewgull at mugele.net

*** I am certain there is too much certainty in the world.   --
Michael Crichton

From rlmossholder at comcast.net  Mon Oct  4 08:32:01 2010
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 14:32:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS has been grabbed... (Was: Steve's TR4A
 IRS is up for grabs!)
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Lookin' good Gerry! Have a great trip. 
Cheers, 
Rich M 

From mvg1 at att.net  Mon Oct  4 09:21:40 2010
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 08:21:40 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Club trip to CSRG Charity Challenge this  Saturday,
 October  2
References: <bay126-ds163A6DBF8ECD15656787B2D8670@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BF0004E37D5B42739A91FD3596D868AB@mike>

To all that attended the CSRG races this past weekend, un-beknownst to me, 
the parade laps were photographed on both days, and the photos were for sale 
to the owners. I didn't find this out until yesterday, when pulling into a 
parking spot next to some Healy's and Bugeye's, Gary  Andersen of CSRG came 
over to welcome me back, and told me that our photos from yesterday were 
ready, if I was interested. They were taken by Head-On Photos, there are 
several very good quality pics of all of the cars in parade, I recognized 
Walters' Sprite, and Tim's MGA in the mix besides my own TR4, and they 
should be availble to those that are interested.
Head-On Photos
1821 S. Bascom Ave #277
Camplbell CA 95008-2309
408-307-3960
www.headonphotos.net    headonphotos at gmail.com

Michael
64 TR4

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Thresh" <tsthresh at hotmail.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:08 AM
Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Club trip to CSRG Charity Challenge this Saturday, 
October 2


> Mike, Greg, and any others planning to join the caravan to CSRG.
>
> Andy Preston has been assembling names and informing our MGOC contact.  If 
> you
> are going and did not let him know then you are probably best to spare him 
> and
> email direct to Sam Gearhart swg3 at comcast.net .
> I will join you but not for the caravan, so save me a "red MGA sized" 
> space
> for around 10 am.
>
> Tim
>
>
> From: MG Owners
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 11:15 PM
> To: mgowners at gmail.com
> Subject: Club trip to CSRG Charity Challenge this Saturday, October 2 and
> Sonoma Wine Country Tour on Saturday, October 9
>
>
> MG Owners,
>
> There are two upcoming events of note: the Club trip to the CSRG Charity
> Challenge this Saturday, October 2 and the Sonoma Wine Country Tour on
> Saturday, October 9. I have every confidence that both events will be, 
> like
> almost all our events this year, both fun and well attended.
>
> If you plan on attending either event, please RSVP immediately to the 
> event
> planners.
>
> CSRG Charity Challenge at Infineon Receway this Saturday, October 2
>
> The Charity Challenge features a full day of historic racing, along with 
> the
> opportunity to take your MG out on the raceway track for a parade lap (for
> only $20). Yes, speed will be limited to 40 mph behind a pace car, but 
> you'll
> be driving a famous professional racetrack in your very own classic car. 
> We
> have also arranged for a section of the paddock to be set aside for MGs to
> park together.
>
>
> We will meet at Port Sonoma on the east-bound side of Rt. 37, 
> approximately
> 4.8 miles east of Rt. 101 at Novato, by 8:30 am. From there it is just a 
> few
> miles to the track and we should be able to mostly remain together until 
> we
> get to the gates. Directions from 101 to 37. For those arriving from 
> points
> east or up in Napa, it is your choice whether you drive to meet up with 
> the
> club or arrive at the track individually. Our hope is that well arrive at 
> the
> track together, park in the same area, and hopefully get on the track 
> mostly
> as a group.
>
>
>
>
>
> Because CSRG has asked for a car count, please RSVP to Sam Gearhart at
> swg3 at comcast.net if you plan to join us.
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From wbain at sonic.net  Mon Oct  4 14:57:08 2010
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 13:57:08 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Steve's TR4A IRS has been grabbed... (Was: Steve's TR4A
 IRS is up for grabs!)
In-Reply-To: <90938A90-4328-45EF-B824-E7597F1C9354@sonic.net>
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Gerry,

Great adventure. Have fun.

Wendell

On Oct 3, 2010, at 9:34 PM, G. Mugele wrote:

> Diana (Steve's window and AKA Dee) met me at Denver Intn'l yesterday
> and shortly thereafter introduced me to my latest mistress.   After
> the paperwork was done we toasted the deal with some of Dee's home
> brew (rootbeer) and I set out on the adventure.
>
> Yes... some might say having a mistress 22 years younger is of
> questionable taste.  Still, she's hot looking, even at her age.  It's
> fun enticing my new girlfriend to come home with me.  She's more
> delicate than I remember but still strong.  I headed out from Dee's
> place to go up into the Rockies to visit one of the Land Rover
> Brethren in Baily, Colorado.   This took far longer than anticipated
> and the darkness monsters began threatening us.  Seems that she's a
> bit bashful and doesn't want to offend the darkness by having any
> lights.   Well....we do have brake lights and that's a very good thing
> since people around here seem to want to follow far too close.
>
> We got as far as Westminster and I looked for some housing that might
> offer a roof for both of us.   Well the Westin hotel there was plenty
> pretentious enough for a tryst with one's latest love but we had to
> pay dearly for it.   It did rain a drab during the night and she
> stayed dry.  She also apparently garnered enough attention that the
> parking valet looked up TRs on the net so he could explain it to
> people asking about her.  (incidentally no parking varlet was allowed
> to actually touch her)
>
> This morning the wake-up was tough.   She wanted to sleep in but I
> choked her severely until she came to life.   In spite of that
> brutality once on the road we went well and got to the Land Rover
> friend's place in time to mooch an early brunch.   His children ooooo-
> ed and ahhhhhh-ed at the pretty red charmer.  Then we headed south on
> US 285 and West on US 160.   We crossed three 10K passes today and she
> was a good sport about it.  Although she did make it clear that she'd
> prefer a little more oxygen to breathe.   And then there were those
> little rain bursts we passed through... muddied up the exterior
> somewhat but the interior only got a few drops.   Maybe I'll have to
> put up the top tomorrow.   Tonight we're in Pagosa Springs, CO....
> about an hour and something East of Durango.
>
> The plan from here is to try to avoid the rain but that's looking
> rather difficult.  Nevertheless, in the morning, it's off to Durango
> and then down past Mesa Verde, to Four Corners, across a piece of the
> Navajo Reservation and ending up in Flagstaff at the home of another
> of the Land Rover afflicted.  We are going to have a serious look at
> the lights and wipers to see if we can't get them to work.... heck
> maybe the horn will get some attention too.  Until she's got working
> lights I'm imposing a sundown curfew.
>
> Here's a link to a couple photos from today:
> http://picasaweb.google.com/MewGull9/TR4A
>
> One image was on the road to Bailey about noon and the other was shot
> a little after six this evening at an overlook on the west side of
> Wolf Creek Pass.... on the way into Pagosa Springs.  The aspens are
> showing some color, as you can see.
>
> Gerry
>
>
>
> G. Mugele
> mewgull at mugele.net
>
> *** I am certain there is too much certainty in the world.   --
> Michael Crichton
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From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct  4 18:29:35 2010
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 17:29:35 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
Message-ID: <C59DE1879BCF448A8075C87196FBAED5@MARLA>

Hello Ron and all NoBBCers.  Marla and I will be leading an MG Owners Club
(MGOC) tour of Sonoma Wine Country this Saturday October 9th. and would like
to extend an invitation to the NoBBC to join us.  We will be meeting at
Sonoma Valley Bagel and Cafi at 350 Rohnert Park Expressway, at 9:00 and
leaving at 9:30 prompt.  We will be touring the back roads through Valley
Ford, Freestone, Occidental, and Forestville to our first stop at
<http://www.kozlowskifarms.com/> Kozlowski Farms (a specialty foods store).
We will then continue up Westside Road through Russian River Valley and Dry
Creek Valley to the famous  <http://www.franciscoppolawinery.com/> Francis
Ford Coppola Winery, for our second stop.  After which we will head to
Adel's diner in Healdsburg for lunch around 1:00 p.m.



If you would like to join us please RSVP so that I can confirm numbers at
Coppola Winery and reservations at Adels diner for lunch.



We hope you can join us,



Andy

From nobbc at sonic.net  Mon Oct  4 19:26:26 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 18:26:26 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
In-Reply-To: <C59DE1879BCF448A8075C87196FBAED5@MARLA>
References: <C59DE1879BCF448A8075C87196FBAED5@MARLA>
Message-ID: <4CAA7EC2.1070006@sonic.net>

Well this coming Saturday is Nobbc ride day so let's join together. I'll 
be there though I may skip Adels. One thing though, this weekend is 
Levi's Grand Fondo which goes through Occidental. We may be sharing the 
road with thousands of bicycles. Just looked it up, all three of the 
routes go through Occidental and roads between Occidental and SR so 
perhaps a route revision is in order.

Ron
58 MGA

andy preston wrote:
> Hello Ron and all NoBBCers.  Marla and I will be leading an MG Owners Club
> (MGOC) tour of Sonoma Wine Country this Saturday October 9th. and would like
> to extend an invitation to the NoBBC to join us.  We will be meeting at
> Sonoma Valley Bagel and Cafi at 350 Rohnert Park Expressway, at 9:00 and
> leaving at 9:30 prompt.  We will be touring the back roads through Valley
> Ford, Freestone, Occidental, and Forestville to our first stop at
> <http://www.kozlowskifarms.com/> Kozlowski Farms (a specialty foods store).
> We will then continue up Westside Road through Russian River Valley and Dry
> Creek Valley to the famous  <http://www.franciscoppolawinery.com/> Francis
> Ford Coppola Winery, for our second stop.  After which we will head to
> Adel's diner in Healdsburg for lunch around 1:00 p.m.
> 
> 
> 
> If you would like to join us please RSVP so that I can confirm numbers at
> Coppola Winery and reservations at Adels diner for lunch.
> 
> 
> 
> We hope you can join us,
> 
> 
> 
> Andy
> _______________________________________________
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Mon Oct  4 19:28:39 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 18:28:39 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
In-Reply-To: <C59DE1879BCF448A8075C87196FBAED5@MARLA>
References: <C59DE1879BCF448A8075C87196FBAED5@MARLA>
Message-ID: <4CAA7F47.5050602@sonic.net>

Oops meant to put the link for the Gran Fondo:
http://www.levisgranfondo.com
All 6000 spaces are already sold out on the rides!

Ron
58 MGA

andy preston wrote:

> Hello Ron and all NoBBCers.  Marla and I will be leading an MG Owners Club
> (MGOC) tour of Sonoma Wine Country this Saturday October 9th. and would like
> to extend an invitation to the NoBBC to join us.  We will be meeting at
> Sonoma Valley Bagel and Cafi at 350 Rohnert Park Expressway, at 9:00 and
> leaving at 9:30 prompt.  We will be touring the back roads through Valley
> Ford, Freestone, Occidental, and Forestville to our first stop at
> <http://www.kozlowskifarms.com/> Kozlowski Farms (a specialty foods store).
> We will then continue up Westside Road through Russian River Valley and Dry
> Creek Valley to the famous  <http://www.franciscoppolawinery.com/> Francis
> Ford Coppola Winery, for our second stop.  After which we will head to
> Adel's diner in Healdsburg for lunch around 1:00 p.m.
> 
> 
> 
> If you would like to join us please RSVP so that I can confirm numbers at
> Coppola Winery and reservations at Adels diner for lunch.
> 
> 
> 
> We hope you can join us,
> 
> 
> 
> Andy
> _______________________________________________
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From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct  5 11:08:53 2010
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 10:08:53 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
In-Reply-To: <4CAA7EC2.1070006@sonic.net>
References: <C59DE1879BCF448A8075C87196FBAED5@MARLA>
	<4CAA7EC2.1070006@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <52A4B317186B49ACA8AC6BE422C663C4@MARLA>

Ron, thanks for the catch on Levi's ride.  That would have been a disaster;
we would have been passing through Occidental at the same time as 6000
cyclists and all their support vehicles.  I can only imagine what chaos that
would have been.  I have revised the first section of the tour, so it's not
as interesting but at least we won't be conflicting with Levi's group.

Thanks Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 6:26 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour

Well this coming Saturday is Nobbc ride day so let's join together. I'll
be there though I may skip Adels. One thing though, this weekend is
Levi's Grand Fondo which goes through Occidental. We may be sharing the
road with thousands of bicycles. Just looked it up, all three of the
routes go through Occidental and roads between Occidental and SR so
perhaps a route revision is in order.

Ron
58 MGA

andy preston wrote:
> Hello Ron and all NoBBCers.  Marla and I will be leading an MG Owners Club
> (MGOC) tour of Sonoma Wine Country this Saturday October 9th. and would
like
> to extend an invitation to the NoBBC to join us.  We will be meeting at
> Sonoma Valley Bagel and Cafi at 350 Rohnert Park Expressway, at 9:00 and
> leaving at 9:30 prompt.  We will be touring the back roads through Valley
> Ford, Freestone, Occidental, and Forestville to our first stop at
> <http://www.kozlowskifarms.com/> Kozlowski Farms (a specialty foods
store).
> We will then continue up Westside Road through Russian River Valley and
Dry
> Creek Valley to the famous  <http://www.franciscoppolawinery.com/> Francis
> Ford Coppola Winery, for our second stop.  After which we will head to
> Adel's diner in Healdsburg for lunch around 1:00 p.m.
>
>
>
> If you would like to join us please RSVP so that I can confirm numbers at
> Coppola Winery and reservations at Adels diner for lunch.
>
>
>
> We hope you can join us,
>
>
>
> Andy
> _______________________________________________
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From astroplaner at comcast.net  Tue Oct  5 13:59:00 2010
From: astroplaner at comcast.net (astroplaner at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 19:59:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
In-Reply-To: <4CAA7EC2.1070006@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <325998679.1835413.1286308740870.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Hello members of the nobbc, 
I have a question that I am hoping you can help me with. I have Dawsons Church's yellow Lotus apart, he ate a left rear axle bearing. I have pulled it a part and taken it to 6 different shops, in Santa Rosa trying to find someone to press it apart. and repress it back together. No buddy wants to mess with it, said they don't have the right jig or parts for the press to support it properly. Does anyone know of someone in the area who is not afraid to do the work. I would appreciate a call or e-mail. thanks for your help. Rick Hobbs 707 478 7793 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net> 
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2010 6:26:26 PM 
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour 

Well this coming Saturday is Nobbc ride day so let's join together. I'll 
be there though I may skip Adels. One thing though, this weekend is 
Levi's Grand Fondo which goes through Occidental. We may be sharing the 
road with thousands of bicycles. Just looked it up, all three of the 
routes go through Occidental and roads between Occidental and SR so 
perhaps a route revision is in order. 

Ron 
58 MGA 

andy preston wrote: 
> Hello Ron and all NoBBCers. Marla and I will be leading an MG Owners Club 
> (MGOC) tour of Sonoma Wine Country this Saturday October 9th. and would like 
> to extend an invitation to the NoBBC to join us. We will be meeting at 
> Sonoma Valley Bagel and Cafi at 350 Rohnert Park Expressway, at 9:00 and 
> leaving at 9:30 prompt. We will be touring the back roads through Valley 
> Ford, Freestone, Occidental, and Forestville to our first stop at 
> <http://www.kozlowskifarms.com/> Kozlowski Farms (a specialty foods store). 
> We will then continue up Westside Road through Russian River Valley and Dry 
> Creek Valley to the famous <http://www.franciscoppolawinery.com/> Francis 
> Ford Coppola Winery, for our second stop. After which we will head to 
> Adel's diner in Healdsburg for lunch around 1:00 p.m. 
> 
> 
> 
> If you would like to join us please RSVP so that I can confirm numbers at 
> Coppola Winery and reservations at Adels diner for lunch. 
> 
> 
> 
> We hope you can join us, 
> 
> 
> 
> Andy 
> _______________________________________________ 
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From sonomashoe at gmail.com  Tue Oct  5 14:05:30 2010
From: sonomashoe at gmail.com (William Shoemaker)
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:05:30 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
In-Reply-To: <325998679.1835413.1286308740870.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <325998679.1835413.1286308740870.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4CAB850A.2040102@gmail.com>

I assume you've tried The Rear End Shop ( off Dutton in Santa 
Rosa..Maxwell Ct?)
Bill
Jag XJ6's

astroplaner at comcast.net wrote:
> Hello members of the nobbc, 
> I have a question that I am hoping you can help me with. I have Dawsons Church's yellow Lotus apart, he ate a left rear axle bearing. I have pulled it a part and taken it to 6 different shops, in Santa Rosa trying to find someone to press it apart. and repress it back together. No buddy wants to mess with it, said they don't have the right jig or parts for the press to support it properly. Does anyone know of someone in the area who is not afraid to do the work. I would appreciate a call or e-mail. thanks for your help. Rick Hobbs 707 478 7793 
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net> 
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net> 
> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2010 6:26:26 PM 
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour 
>
> Well this coming Saturday is Nobbc ride day so let's join together. I'll 
> be there though I may skip Adels. One thing though, this weekend is 
> Levi's Grand Fondo which goes through Occidental. We may be sharing the 
> road with thousands of bicycles. Just looked it up, all three of the 
> routes go through Occidental and roads between Occidental and SR so 
> perhaps a route revision is in order. 
>
> Ron 
> 58 MGA 
>
> andy preston wrote: 
>   
>> Hello Ron and all NoBBCers. Marla and I will be leading an MG Owners Club 
>> (MGOC) tour of Sonoma Wine Country this Saturday October 9th. and would like 
>> to extend an invitation to the NoBBC to join us. We will be meeting at 
>> Sonoma Valley Bagel and Cafi at 350 Rohnert Park Expressway, at 9:00 and 
>> leaving at 9:30 prompt. We will be touring the back roads through Valley 
>> Ford, Freestone, Occidental, and Forestville to our first stop at 
>> <http://www.kozlowskifarms.com/> Kozlowski Farms (a specialty foods store). 
>> We will then continue up Westside Road through Russian River Valley and Dry 
>> Creek Valley to the famous <http://www.franciscoppolawinery.com/> Francis 
>> Ford Coppola Winery, for our second stop. After which we will head to 
>> Adel's diner in Healdsburg for lunch around 1:00 p.m. 
>>
>>
>>
>> If you would like to join us please RSVP so that I can confirm numbers at 
>> Coppola Winery and reservations at Adels diner for lunch. 
>>
>>
>>
>> We hope you can join us, 
>>
>>
>>
>> Andy 
>> _______________________________________________ 
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net 
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Tue Oct  5 14:17:46 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (gtwincams at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 20:17:46 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
In-Reply-To: <4CAB850A.2040102@gmail.com>
References: <325998679.1835413.1286308740870.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><4CAB850A.2040102@gmail.com>
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Rear end shop, Rick

Greg Tatarian
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: William Shoemaker <sonomashoe at gmail.com>
Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:05:30 
To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour

I assume you've tried The Rear End Shop ( off Dutton in Santa 
Rosa..Maxwell Ct?)
Bill
Jag XJ6's

astroplaner at comcast.net wrote:
> Hello members of the nobbc, 
> I have a question that I am hoping you can help me with. I have Dawsons Church's yellow Lotus apart, he ate a left rear axle bearing. I have pulled it a part and taken it to 6 different shops, in Santa Rosa trying to find someone to press it apart. and repress it back together. No buddy wants to mess with it, said they don't have the right jig or parts for the press to support it properly. Does anyone know of someone in the area who is not afraid to do the work. I would appreciate a call or e-mail. thanks for your help. Rick Hobbs 707 478 7793 
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net> 
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net> 
> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2010 6:26:26 PM 
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour 
>
> Well this coming Saturday is Nobbc ride day so let's join together. I'll 
> be there though I may skip Adels. One thing though, this weekend is 
> Levi's Grand Fondo which goes through Occidental. We may be sharing the 
> road with thousands of bicycles. Just looked it up, all three of the 
> routes go through Occidental and roads between Occidental and SR so 
> perhaps a route revision is in order. 
>
> Ron 
> 58 MGA 
>
> andy preston wrote: 
>   
>> Hello Ron and all NoBBCers. Marla and I will be leading an MG Owners Club 
>> (MGOC) tour of Sonoma Wine Country this Saturday October 9th. and would like 
>> to extend an invitation to the NoBBC to join us. We will be meeting at 
>> Sonoma Valley Bagel and Cafi at 350 Rohnert Park Expressway, at 9:00 and 
>> leaving at 9:30 prompt. We will be touring the back roads through Valley 
>> Ford, Freestone, Occidental, and Forestville to our first stop at 
>> <http://www.kozlowskifarms.com/> Kozlowski Farms (a specialty foods store). 
>> We will then continue up Westside Road through Russian River Valley and Dry 
>> Creek Valley to the famous <http://www.franciscoppolawinery.com/> Francis 
>> Ford Coppola Winery, for our second stop. After which we will head to 
>> Adel's diner in Healdsburg for lunch around 1:00 p.m. 
>>
>>
>>
>> If you would like to join us please RSVP so that I can confirm numbers at 
>> Coppola Winery and reservations at Adels diner for lunch. 
>>
>>
>>
>> We hope you can join us, 
>>
>>
>>
>> Andy 
>> _______________________________________________ 
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net 
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html 
>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 
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From astroplaner at comcast.net  Tue Oct  5 14:19:46 2010
From: astroplaner at comcast.net (astroplaner at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 20:19:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
In-Reply-To: <20101005201713.4B38518786B@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <409198415.1836645.1286309986554.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Thanks headed that way right now. No I had not. 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: gtwincams at gmail.com 
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2010 1:17:46 PM 
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour 

Rear end shop, Rick 

Greg Tatarian 
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T 

-----Original Message----- 
From: William Shoemaker <sonomashoe at gmail.com> 
Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net 
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:05:30 
To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net> 
Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour 

I assume you've tried The Rear End Shop ( off Dutton in Santa 
Rosa..Maxwell Ct?) 
Bill 
Jag XJ6's 

astroplaner at comcast.net wrote: 
> Hello members of the nobbc, 
> I have a question that I am hoping you can help me with. I have Dawsons Church's yellow Lotus apart, he ate a left rear axle bearing. I have pulled it a part and taken it to 6 different shops, in Santa Rosa trying to find someone to press it apart. and repress it back together. No buddy wants to mess with it, said they don't have the right jig or parts for the press to support it properly. Does anyone know of someone in the area who is not afraid to do the work. I would appreciate a call or e-mail. thanks for your help. Rick Hobbs 707 478 7793 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net> 
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net> 
> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2010 6:26:26 PM 
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour 
> 
> Well this coming Saturday is Nobbc ride day so let's join together. I'll 
> be there though I may skip Adels. One thing though, this weekend is 
> Levi's Grand Fondo which goes through Occidental. We may be sharing the 
> road with thousands of bicycles. Just looked it up, all three of the 
> routes go through Occidental and roads between Occidental and SR so 
> perhaps a route revision is in order. 
> 
> Ron 
> 58 MGA 
> 
> andy preston wrote: 
> 
>> Hello Ron and all NoBBCers. Marla and I will be leading an MG Owners Club 
>> (MGOC) tour of Sonoma Wine Country this Saturday October 9th. and would like 
>> to extend an invitation to the NoBBC to join us. We will be meeting at 
>> Sonoma Valley Bagel and Cafi at 350 Rohnert Park Expressway, at 9:00 and 
>> leaving at 9:30 prompt. We will be touring the back roads through Valley 
>> Ford, Freestone, Occidental, and Forestville to our first stop at 
>> <http://www.kozlowskifarms.com/> Kozlowski Farms (a specialty foods store). 
>> We will then continue up Westside Road through Russian River Valley and Dry 
>> Creek Valley to the famous <http://www.franciscoppolawinery.com/> Francis 
>> Ford Coppola Winery, for our second stop. After which we will head to 
>> Adel's diner in Healdsburg for lunch around 1:00 p.m. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If you would like to join us please RSVP so that I can confirm numbers at 
>> Coppola Winery and reservations at Adels diner for lunch. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We hope you can join us, 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Andy 
>> _______________________________________________ 
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net 
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From sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com  Tue Oct  5 14:20:38 2010
From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com (sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 13:20:38 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
References: <325998679.1835413.1286308740870.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <9ABD7DF6BF5941EF9B9F14D0CA8BC749@mike>

Hi Rick,

Talk to Rob at JRL Machine and Drive Line in Petaluma. He separated a frozen 
axle and hub for my TR4 in short order. 762-7794

Michael Gianandrea
766-9405
64 TR4

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <astroplaner at comcast.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour


> Hello members of the nobbc,
> I have a question that I am hoping you can help me with. I have Dawsons 
> Church's yellow Lotus apart, he ate a left rear axle bearing. I have 
> pulled it a part and taken it to 6 different shops, in Santa Rosa trying 
> to find someone to press it apart. and repress it back together. No buddy 
> wants to mess with it, said they don't have the right jig or parts for the 
> press to support it properly. Does anyone know of someone in the area who 
> is not afraid to do the work. I would appreciate a call or e-mail. thanks 
> for your help. Rick Hobbs 707 478 7793
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2010 6:26:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
>
> Well this coming Saturday is Nobbc ride day so let's join together. I'll
> be there though I may skip Adels. One thing though, this weekend is
> Levi's Grand Fondo which goes through Occidental. We may be sharing the
> road with thousands of bicycles. Just looked it up, all three of the
> routes go through Occidental and roads between Occidental and SR so
> perhaps a route revision is in order.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> andy preston wrote:
>> Hello Ron and all NoBBCers. Marla and I will be leading an MG Owners Club
>> (MGOC) tour of Sonoma Wine Country this Saturday October 9th. and would 
>> like
>> to extend an invitation to the NoBBC to join us. We will be meeting at
>> Sonoma Valley Bagel and Cafi at 350 Rohnert Park Expressway, at 9:00 and
>> leaving at 9:30 prompt. We will be touring the back roads through Valley
>> Ford, Freestone, Occidental, and Forestville to our first stop at
>> <http://www.kozlowskifarms.com/> Kozlowski Farms (a specialty foods 
>> store).
>> We will then continue up Westside Road through Russian River Valley and 
>> Dry
>> Creek Valley to the famous <http://www.franciscoppolawinery.com/> Francis
>> Ford Coppola Winery, for our second stop. After which we will head to
>> Adel's diner in Healdsburg for lunch around 1:00 p.m.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you would like to join us please RSVP so that I can confirm numbers at
>> Coppola Winery and reservations at Adels diner for lunch.
>>
>>
>>
>> We hope you can join us,
>>
>>
>>
>> Andy
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From apexbrit2 at gmail.com  Tue Oct  5 14:45:17 2010
From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 13:45:17 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
In-Reply-To: <325998679.1835413.1286308740870.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <4CAA7EC2.1070006@sonic.net>
	<325998679.1835413.1286308740870.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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Try Huffaker Engineering at Infinion. If they can't do it they can probably
steer you to someone there that can.

*Huffaker Engineering*
707-935-0533 / *www.huffakerengineering.com*
Engine and chassis building and development.


On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:59 PM, <astroplaner at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hello members of the nobbc,
> I have a question that I am hoping you can help me with. I have Dawsons
> Church's yellow Lotus apart, he ate a left rear axle bearing. I have pulled
> it a part and taken it to 6 different shops, in Santa Rosa trying to find
> someone to press it apart. and repress it back together. No buddy wants to
> mess with it, said they don't have the right jig or parts for the press to
> support it properly. Does anyone know of someone in the area who is not
> afraid to do the work. I would appreciate a call or e-mail. thanks for your
> help. Rick Hobbs 707 478 7793
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2010 6:26:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
>
> Well this coming Saturday is Nobbc ride day so let's join together. I'll
> be there though I may skip Adels. One thing though, this weekend is
> Levi's Grand Fondo which goes through Occidental. We may be sharing the
> road with thousands of bicycles. Just looked it up, all three of the
> routes go through Occidental and roads between Occidental and SR so
> perhaps a route revision is in order.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> andy preston wrote:
> > Hello Ron and all NoBBCers. Marla and I will be leading an MG Owners Club
> > (MGOC) tour of Sonoma Wine Country this Saturday October 9th. and would
> like
> > to extend an invitation to the NoBBC to join us. We will be meeting at
> > Sonoma Valley Bagel and Cafi at 350 Rohnert Park Expressway, at 9:00 and
> > leaving at 9:30 prompt. We will be touring the back roads through Valley
> > Ford, Freestone, Occidental, and Forestville to our first stop at
> > <http://www.kozlowskifarms.com/> Kozlowski Farms (a specialty foods
> store).
> > We will then continue up Westside Road through Russian River Valley and
> Dry
> > Creek Valley to the famous <http://www.franciscoppolawinery.com/>
> Francis
> > Ford Coppola Winery, for our second stop. After which we will head to
> > Adel's diner in Healdsburg for lunch around 1:00 p.m.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you would like to join us please RSVP so that I can confirm numbers at
> > Coppola Winery and reservations at Adels diner for lunch.
> >
> >
> >
> > We hope you can join us,
> >
> >
> >
> > Andy
> > _______________________________________________
> > Nobbc at autox.team.net
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Suggested annual donation $11.47
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From apexbrit2 at gmail.com  Tue Oct  5 14:45:17 2010
From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 13:45:17 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
In-Reply-To: <325998679.1835413.1286308740870.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <4CAA7EC2.1070006@sonic.net>
	<325998679.1835413.1286308740870.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimHC6rO3heBR1+oERZn4MA04+-hM_-atsLnSs3K@mail.gmail.com>

Try Huffaker Engineering at Infinion. If they can't do it they can probably
steer you to someone there that can.

*Huffaker Engineering*
707-935-0533 / *www.huffakerengineering.com*
Engine and chassis building and development.


On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:59 PM, <astroplaner at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hello members of the nobbc,
> I have a question that I am hoping you can help me with. I have Dawsons
> Church's yellow Lotus apart, he ate a left rear axle bearing. I have pulled
> it a part and taken it to 6 different shops, in Santa Rosa trying to find
> someone to press it apart. and repress it back together. No buddy wants to
> mess with it, said they don't have the right jig or parts for the press to
> support it properly. Does anyone know of someone in the area who is not
> afraid to do the work. I would appreciate a call or e-mail. thanks for your
> help. Rick Hobbs 707 478 7793
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2010 6:26:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
>
> Well this coming Saturday is Nobbc ride day so let's join together. I'll
> be there though I may skip Adels. One thing though, this weekend is
> Levi's Grand Fondo which goes through Occidental. We may be sharing the
> road with thousands of bicycles. Just looked it up, all three of the
> routes go through Occidental and roads between Occidental and SR so
> perhaps a route revision is in order.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> andy preston wrote:
> > Hello Ron and all NoBBCers. Marla and I will be leading an MG Owners Club
> > (MGOC) tour of Sonoma Wine Country this Saturday October 9th. and would
> like
> > to extend an invitation to the NoBBC to join us. We will be meeting at
> > Sonoma Valley Bagel and Cafi at 350 Rohnert Park Expressway, at 9:00 and
> > leaving at 9:30 prompt. We will be touring the back roads through Valley
> > Ford, Freestone, Occidental, and Forestville to our first stop at
> > <http://www.kozlowskifarms.com/> Kozlowski Farms (a specialty foods
> store).
> > We will then continue up Westside Road through Russian River Valley and
> Dry
> > Creek Valley to the famous <http://www.franciscoppolawinery.com/>
> Francis
> > Ford Coppola Winery, for our second stop. After which we will head to
> > Adel's diner in Healdsburg for lunch around 1:00 p.m.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you would like to join us please RSVP so that I can confirm numbers at
> > Coppola Winery and reservations at Adels diner for lunch.
> >
> >
> >
> > We hope you can join us,
> >
> >
> >
> > Andy
> > _______________________________________________
> > Nobbc at autox.team.net
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Suggested annual donation $11.47
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From astroplaner at comcast.net  Tue Oct  5 15:51:56 2010
From: astroplaner at comcast.net (astroplaner at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 21:51:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
In-Reply-To: <20101005201713.4B38518786B@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <418775160.1841690.1286315516643.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Thanks Bill, Greg and all that responded, it is now at the rear end shop. See what becomes of it, It is nice knowing i have other options, if this does not work out or in the future. So thank you. Rick Hobbs 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: gtwincams at gmail.com 
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2010 1:17:46 PM 
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour 

Rear end shop, Rick 

Greg Tatarian 
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T 

-----Original Message----- 
From: William Shoemaker <sonomashoe at gmail.com> 
Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net 
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:05:30 
To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net> 
Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour 

I assume you've tried The Rear End Shop ( off Dutton in Santa 
Rosa..Maxwell Ct?) 
Bill 
Jag XJ6's 

astroplaner at comcast.net wrote: 
> Hello members of the nobbc, 
> I have a question that I am hoping you can help me with. I have Dawsons Church's yellow Lotus apart, he ate a left rear axle bearing. I have pulled it a part and taken it to 6 different shops, in Santa Rosa trying to find someone to press it apart. and repress it back together. No buddy wants to mess with it, said they don't have the right jig or parts for the press to support it properly. Does anyone know of someone in the area who is not afraid to do the work. I would appreciate a call or e-mail. thanks for your help. Rick Hobbs 707 478 7793 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net> 
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net> 
> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2010 6:26:26 PM 
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour 
> 
> Well this coming Saturday is Nobbc ride day so let's join together. I'll 
> be there though I may skip Adels. One thing though, this weekend is 
> Levi's Grand Fondo which goes through Occidental. We may be sharing the 
> road with thousands of bicycles. Just looked it up, all three of the 
> routes go through Occidental and roads between Occidental and SR so 
> perhaps a route revision is in order. 
> 
> Ron 
> 58 MGA 
> 
> andy preston wrote: 
> 
>> Hello Ron and all NoBBCers. Marla and I will be leading an MG Owners Club 
>> (MGOC) tour of Sonoma Wine Country this Saturday October 9th. and would like 
>> to extend an invitation to the NoBBC to join us. We will be meeting at 
>> Sonoma Valley Bagel and Cafi at 350 Rohnert Park Expressway, at 9:00 and 
>> leaving at 9:30 prompt. We will be touring the back roads through Valley 
>> Ford, Freestone, Occidental, and Forestville to our first stop at 
>> <http://www.kozlowskifarms.com/> Kozlowski Farms (a specialty foods store). 
>> We will then continue up Westside Road through Russian River Valley and Dry 
>> Creek Valley to the famous <http://www.franciscoppolawinery.com/> Francis 
>> Ford Coppola Winery, for our second stop. After which we will head to 
>> Adel's diner in Healdsburg for lunch around 1:00 p.m. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If you would like to join us please RSVP so that I can confirm numbers at 
>> Coppola Winery and reservations at Adels diner for lunch. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We hope you can join us, 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Andy 
>> _______________________________________________ 
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net 
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From mitch.utsey at gmail.com  Tue Oct  5 16:23:09 2010
From: mitch.utsey at gmail.com (Mitch Utsey)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 15:23:09 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
In-Reply-To: <418775160.1841690.1286315516643.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <20101005201713.4B38518786B@autox.team.net>
	<418775160.1841690.1286315516643.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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If nothing else, try McCann's Machine and Manufacturing on Sebastapol Rd in
Santa Rosa. Jeff can do (And does) pretty much anything.

-Mitch

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:51 PM, <astroplaner at comcast.net> wrote:

> Thanks Bill, Greg and all that responded, it is now at the rear end shop.
> See what becomes of it, It is nice knowing i have other options, if this
> does not work out or in the future. So thank you. Rick Hobbs
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: gtwincams at gmail.com
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2010 1:17:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
>
> Rear end shop, Rick
>
> Greg Tatarian
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Shoemaker <sonomashoe at gmail.com>
> Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:05:30
> To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
>
> I assume you've tried The Rear End Shop ( off Dutton in Santa
> Rosa..Maxwell Ct?)
> Bill
> Jag XJ6's
>
> astroplaner at comcast.net wrote:
> > Hello members of the nobbc,
> > I have a question that I am hoping you can help me with. I have Dawsons
> Church's yellow Lotus apart, he ate a left rear axle bearing. I have pulled
> it a part and taken it to 6 different shops, in Santa Rosa trying to find
> someone to press it apart. and repress it back together. No buddy wants to
> mess with it, said they don't have the right jig or parts for the press to
> support it properly. Does anyone know of someone in the area who is not
> afraid to do the work. I would appreciate a call or e-mail. thanks for your
> help. Rick Hobbs 707 478 7793
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
> > To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Monday, October 4, 2010 6:26:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
> >
> > Well this coming Saturday is Nobbc ride day so let's join together. I'll
> > be there though I may skip Adels. One thing though, this weekend is
> > Levi's Grand Fondo which goes through Occidental. We may be sharing the
> > road with thousands of bicycles. Just looked it up, all three of the
> > routes go through Occidental and roads between Occidental and SR so
> > perhaps a route revision is in order.
> >
> > Ron
> > 58 MGA
> >
> > andy preston wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Ron and all NoBBCers. Marla and I will be leading an MG Owners
> Club
> >> (MGOC) tour of Sonoma Wine Country this Saturday October 9th. and would
> like
> >> to extend an invitation to the NoBBC to join us. We will be meeting at
> >> Sonoma Valley Bagel and Cafi at 350 Rohnert Park Expressway, at 9:00 and
> >> leaving at 9:30 prompt. We will be touring the back roads through Valley
> >> Ford, Freestone, Occidental, and Forestville to our first stop at
> >> <http://www.kozlowskifarms.com/> Kozlowski Farms (a specialty foods
> store).
> >> We will then continue up Westside Road through Russian River Valley and
> Dry
> >> Creek Valley to the famous <http://www.franciscoppolawinery.com/>
> Francis
> >> Ford Coppola Winery, for our second stop. After which we will head to
> >> Adel's diner in Healdsburg for lunch around 1:00 p.m.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> If you would like to join us please RSVP so that I can confirm numbers
> at
> >> Coppola Winery and reservations at Adels diner for lunch.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We hope you can join us,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Andy
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> >> Suggested annual donation $11.47
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 10:56:45 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 09:56:45 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
In-Reply-To: <52A4B317186B49ACA8AC6BE422C663C4@MARLA>
References: <C59DE1879BCF448A8075C87196FBAED5@MARLA>
	<4CAA7EC2.1070006@sonic.net> <52A4B317186B49ACA8AC6BE422C663C4@MARLA>
Message-ID: <4CACAA4D.4050504@gmail.com>

  Thank you for the invite, Andy. Trish and I are going to miss this 
one, but have a great time.
Cheers,
Greg Tatarian





On 10/5/2010 10:08 AM, andy preston wrote:
> Ron, thanks for the catch on Levi's ride.  That would have been a disaster;
> we would have been passing through Occidental at the same time as 6000
> cyclists and all their support vehicles.  I can only imagine what chaos that
> would have been.  I have revised the first section of the tour, so it's not
> as interesting but at least we won't be conflicting with Levi's group.
>
> Thanks Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 6:26 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
>
> Well this coming Saturday is Nobbc ride day so let's join together. I'll
> be there though I may skip Adels. One thing though, this weekend is
> Levi's Grand Fondo which goes through Occidental. We may be sharing the
> road with thousands of bicycles. Just looked it up, all three of the
> routes go through Occidental and roads between Occidental and SR so
> perhaps a route revision is in order.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> andy preston wrote:
>> Hello Ron and all NoBBCers.  Marla and I will be leading an MG Owners Club
>> (MGOC) tour of Sonoma Wine Country this Saturday October 9th. and would
> like
>> to extend an invitation to the NoBBC to join us.  We will be meeting at
>> Sonoma Valley Bagel and Cafi at 350 Rohnert Park Expressway, at 9:00 and
>> leaving at 9:30 prompt.  We will be touring the back roads through Valley
>> Ford, Freestone, Occidental, and Forestville to our first stop at
>> <http://www.kozlowskifarms.com/>  Kozlowski Farms (a specialty foods
> store).
>> We will then continue up Westside Road through Russian River Valley and
> Dry
>> Creek Valley to the famous<http://www.franciscoppolawinery.com/>  Francis
>> Ford Coppola Winery, for our second stop.  After which we will head to
>> Adel's diner in Healdsburg for lunch around 1:00 p.m.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you would like to join us please RSVP so that I can confirm numbers at
>> Coppola Winery and reservations at Adels diner for lunch.
>>
>>
>>
>> We hope you can join us,
>>
>>
>>
>> Andy
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From Mariner at sutterhealth.org  Wed Oct  6 12:22:00 2010
From: Mariner at sutterhealth.org (Marinelli, Ronald J)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 11:22:00 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
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Andy,
Going to do my best to make it.
Count me in w/ passenger, for 2.

(the other) Ron
58 AH



-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of andy preston
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 10:09 AM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour

Ron, thanks for the catch on Levi's ride.  That would have been a
disaster; we would have been passing through Occidental at the same time
as 6000 cyclists and all their support vehicles.  I can only imagine
what chaos that would have been.  I have revised the first section of
the tour, so it's not as interesting but at least we won't be
conflicting with Levi's group.

Thanks Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 6:26 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour

Well this coming Saturday is Nobbc ride day so let's join together. I'll
be there though I may skip Adels. One thing though, this weekend is
Levi's Grand Fondo which goes through Occidental. We may be sharing the
road with thousands of bicycles. Just looked it up, all three of the
routes go through Occidental and roads between Occidental and SR so
perhaps a route revision is in order.

Ron
58 MGA

andy preston wrote:
> Hello Ron and all NoBBCers.  Marla and I will be leading an MG Owners
> Club
> (MGOC) tour of Sonoma Wine Country this Saturday October 9th. and
> would
like
> to extend an invitation to the NoBBC to join us.  We will be meeting
> at Sonoma Valley Bagel and Cafi at 350 Rohnert Park Expressway, at
> 9:00 and leaving at 9:30 prompt.  We will be touring the back roads
> through Valley Ford, Freestone, Occidental, and Forestville to our
> first stop at <http://www.kozlowskifarms.com/> Kozlowski Farms (a
> specialty foods
store).
> We will then continue up Westside Road through Russian River Valley
> and
Dry
> Creek Valley to the famous  <http://www.franciscoppolawinery.com/>
> Francis Ford Coppola Winery, for our second stop.  After which we will

> head to Adel's diner in Healdsburg for lunch around 1:00 p.m.
>
>
>
> If you would like to join us please RSVP so that I can confirm numbers

> at Coppola Winery and reservations at Adels diner for lunch.
>
>
>
> We hope you can join us,
>
>
>
> Andy
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From wbain at sonic.net  Wed Oct  6 14:23:10 2010
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 13:23:10 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
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Hello Rick,
Did you try British European in Cotati? If not here is contact info.

britisheuropean.com

Wendell

On Oct 5, 2010, at 12:59 PM, astroplaner at comcast.net wrote:

> Hello members of the nobbc,
> I have a question that I am hoping you can help me with. I have  
> Dawsons Church's yellow Lotus apart, he ate a left rear axle  
> bearing. I have pulled it a part and taken it to 6 different shops,  
> in Santa Rosa trying to find someone to press it apart. and repress  
> it back together. No buddy wants to mess with it, said they don't  
> have the right jig or parts for the press to support it properly.  
> Does anyone know of someone in the area who is not afraid to do the  
> work. I would appreciate a call or e-mail. thanks for your help.  
> Rick Hobbs 707 478 7793
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2010 6:26:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
>
> Well this coming Saturday is Nobbc ride day so let's join together.  
> I'll
> be there though I may skip Adels. One thing though, this weekend is
> Levi's Grand Fondo which goes through Occidental. We may be sharing  
> the
> road with thousands of bicycles. Just looked it up, all three of the
> routes go through Occidental and roads between Occidental and SR so
> perhaps a route revision is in order.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> andy preston wrote:
>> Hello Ron and all NoBBCers. Marla and I will be leading an MG  
>> Owners Club
>> (MGOC) tour of Sonoma Wine Country this Saturday October 9th. and  
>> would like
>> to extend an invitation to the NoBBC to join us. We will be  
>> meeting at
>> Sonoma Valley Bagel and Cafi at 350 Rohnert Park Expressway, at  
>> 9:00 and
>> leaving at 9:30 prompt. We will be touring the back roads through  
>> Valley
>> Ford, Freestone, Occidental, and Forestville to our first stop at
>> <http://www.kozlowskifarms.com/> Kozlowski Farms (a specialty  
>> foods store).
>> We will then continue up Westside Road through Russian River  
>> Valley and Dry
>> Creek Valley to the famous <http://www.franciscoppolawinery.com/>  
>> Francis
>> Ford Coppola Winery, for our second stop. After which we will head to
>> Adel's diner in Healdsburg for lunch around 1:00 p.m.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you would like to join us please RSVP so that I can confirm  
>> numbers at
>> Coppola Winery and reservations at Adels diner for lunch.
>>
>>
>>
>> We hope you can join us,
>>
>>
>>
>> Andy
>> _______________________________________________
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Thu Oct  7 10:09:40 2010
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 09:09:40 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] ROLL BAR
Message-ID: <009901cb663a$0daa44f0$28feced0$@com>

Hi all,

 

Anyone know of a custom roll bar fabricator in our area?

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

JOHN KENNER

 

510 231 6803 P

415 806 2457 C

510 231 6805 F

 

 

tamalpais_s

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From DPaige at srcity.org  Thu Oct  7 10:52:27 2010
From: DPaige at srcity.org (Paige, Dean)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 09:52:27 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Siebring Trans swap
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Message-ID: <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B9282F4B0874@MAIL5.sr.local>

Hey guys,

Any suggestions on someone who can do a transmission swap between a 1997
Sebring and a 2000 Sebring? 97 trans shot 2000 engine shot. 2000 could be used
for a parts car post trans swap.


Deano

From nobbc at sonic.net  Thu Oct  7 11:36:53 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:36:53 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] ROLL BAR
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References: <009901cb663a$0daa44f0$28feced0$@com>
Message-ID: <4CAE0535.5000908@sonic.net>

No actual knowledge John, but any welding shop should be able to do it I 
would think.

Ron
58 MGA

John Kenner wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>  
> 
> Anyone know of a custom roll bar fabricator in our area?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> JOHN KENNER
> 
>  
> 
> 510 231 6803 P
> 
> 415 806 2457 C
> 
> 510 231 6805 F
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> tamalpais_s
> 
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif]
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From wkilch at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct  7 12:11:52 2010
From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (wkilch at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 18:11:52 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] ROLL BAR
Message-ID: <mailman.19.1286475076.22015.nobbc@autox.team.net>

I've heard of people taking templates to muffler shops and having them to the bending. 

W
------Original Message------
From: John Kenner
Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] ROLL BAR
Sent: Oct 7, 2010 9:09 AM

Hi all,

 

Anyone know of a custom roll bar fabricator in our area?

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

JOHN KENNER

 

510 231 6803 P

415 806 2457 C

510 231 6805 F

 

 

tamalpais_s

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From ppanther at ix.netcom.com  Thu Oct  7 12:26:38 2010
From: ppanther at ix.netcom.com (ppanther)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 11:26:38 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] ROLL BAR
In-Reply-To: <009901cb663a$0daa44f0$28feced0$@com>
Message-ID: <MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKEEMFCIAA.ppanther@ix.netcom.com>

John
If I needed a custom roll bar I would be talking to Jess at Hawker
Engineering in San Rafael.
415-457-9353

He won't charge you any more if you tell him I sent you.

Larry Gardini

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of John Kenner
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 9:10 AM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: [Nobbc] ROLL BAR


Hi all,



Anyone know of a custom roll bar fabricator in our area?



Thanks,







JOHN KENNER



510 231 6803 P

415 806 2457 C

510 231 6805 F





tamalpais_s

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From mowog at sonic.net  Thu Oct  7 12:31:18 2010
From: mowog at sonic.net (Rod Williams)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 11:31:18 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] ROLL BAR
In-Reply-To: <4CAE0535.5000908@sonic.net>
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>> Anyone know of a custom roll bar fabricator in our area?

Several at Infineon Motor Sports Industrial Park. Look on Infineon Raceway's
website and find the Motor Sports Park vendor list link. There are a number of
good places to call.

http://www.infineonraceway.com/raceway/industrial/

--
Rod Williams
Petaluma, California
1967 MGB

From rlmossholder at comcast.net  Thu Oct  7 13:44:51 2010
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 19:44:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] ROLL BAR
In-Reply-To: <7D70DFBC-D305-49AF-BCA0-6AAD92C2D07D@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <1839159169.125912.1286480691736.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Which car do you need a rollbar for John? 
Johnny Franklin's might do this. They aren't just a muffler shop. 
Cheers, 
Rich 


>> Anyone know of a custom roll bar fabricator in our area? 

From gonzosaurs at comcast.net  Thu Oct  7 13:58:55 2010
From: gonzosaurs at comcast.net (gonzosaurs at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 19:58:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] ROLL BAR
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Message-ID: <1003787549.1891833.1286481535980.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

call Rob at 4 wheel perfection 588-9945. They make roll cages for off road vehicles. Sportscar roll bar should be a snap. 

gonzo 
tr-250 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net> 
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2010 10:36:53 AM 
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] ROLL BAR 

No actual knowledge John, but any welding shop should be able to do it I 
would think. 

Ron 
58 MGA 

John Kenner wrote: 
> Hi all, 
> 
> 
> 
> Anyone know of a custom roll bar fabricator in our area? 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> JOHN KENNER 
> 
> 
> 
> 510 231 6803 P 
> 
> 415 806 2457 C 
> 
> 510 231 6805 F 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> tamalpais_s 
> 
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] 
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From wkilch at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct  7 19:04:39 2010
From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (wkilch at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 01:04:39 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] ROLL BAR
Message-ID: <mailman.21.1286499842.22015.nobbc@autox.team.net>

Yea, which car are you thinking of rolling?

W
------Original Message------
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To: North Bay British Car Club
ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] ROLL BAR
Sent: Oct 7, 2010 12:44 PM

Which car do you need a rollbar for John? 
Johnny Franklin's might do this. They aren't just a muffler shop. 
Cheers, 
Rich 


>> Anyone know of a custom roll bar fabricator in our area? 
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From wkilch at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct  7 21:01:33 2010
From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (Walter & Gwen Kilchherr)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 20:01:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] 24 hours of lemons
Message-ID: <810516.95329.qm@web81701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Has anyone seen this. This is so cool!

http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/

Walter

From markdarley at mac.com  Fri Oct  8 19:50:22 2010
From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:50:22 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
In-Reply-To: <52A4B317186B49ACA8AC6BE422C663C4@MARLA>
References: <C59DE1879BCF448A8075C87196FBAED5@MARLA>
	<4CAA7EC2.1070006@sonic.net> <52A4B317186B49ACA8AC6BE422C663C4@MARLA>
Message-ID: <D8E5050E-FB99-4055-8F43-A3EEC2EB5B66@mac.com>

Andy and others,

Turns out I have to attend a meeting tomorrow morning at the  
Inverness Yacht Club and will miss the ride.  A real shame...the new  
tires are on and making a huge difference.

I also need some help stowing my newly reconditioned side-curtains  
and soft top.  When stowed they make a real mess of the side-curtain  
pocket and do not seem to fit.  I suspect one of you soft top MGA  
owners has solved this problem.

Next time,
Mark

Mark Darley
markdarley at mac.com
Mobile Phone 415 310 5252



On Oct 5, 2010, at 10:08 AM, andy preston wrote:

> Ron, thanks for the catch on Levi's ride.  That would have been a  
> disaster;
> we would have been passing through Occidental at the same time as 6000
> cyclists and all their support vehicles.  I can only imagine what  
> chaos that
> would have been.  I have revised the first section of the tour, so  
> it's not
> as interesting but at least we won't be conflicting with Levi's group.
>
> Thanks Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- 
> bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 6:26 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGOC Sonoma Wine Country Tour
>
> Well this coming Saturday is Nobbc ride day so let's join together.  
> I'll
> be there though I may skip Adels. One thing though, this weekend is
> Levi's Grand Fondo which goes through Occidental. We may be sharing  
> the
> road with thousands of bicycles. Just looked it up, all three of the
> routes go through Occidental and roads between Occidental and SR so
> perhaps a route revision is in order.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> andy preston wrote:
>> Hello Ron and all NoBBCers.  Marla and I will be leading an MG  
>> Owners Club
>> (MGOC) tour of Sonoma Wine Country this Saturday October 9th. and  
>> would
> like
>> to extend an invitation to the NoBBC to join us.  We will be  
>> meeting at
>> Sonoma Valley Bagel and Cafi at 350 Rohnert Park Expressway, at  
>> 9:00 and
>> leaving at 9:30 prompt.  We will be touring the back roads through  
>> Valley
>> Ford, Freestone, Occidental, and Forestville to our first stop at
>> <http://www.kozlowskifarms.com/> Kozlowski Farms (a specialty foods
> store).
>> We will then continue up Westside Road through Russian River  
>> Valley and
> Dry
>> Creek Valley to the famous  <http://www.franciscoppolawinery.com/>  
>> Francis
>> Ford Coppola Winery, for our second stop.  After which we will  
>> head to
>> Adel's diner in Healdsburg for lunch around 1:00 p.m.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you would like to join us please RSVP so that I can confirm  
>> numbers at
>> Coppola Winery and reservations at Adels diner for lunch.
>>
>>
>>
>> We hope you can join us,
>>
>>
>>
>> Andy
>> _______________________________________________
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Fri Oct  8 20:21:27 2010
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 19:21:27 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] 24 hours of lemons
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References: <810516.95329.qm@web81701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D341DAFD771344AD99C6634FD32004AD@williamsonPC>

For anybody interested in the goof ball idea, I have a 74 JH that is 
available for $500.00.  It will run but needs a gas tank (fuel cell) and 
what ever other requirements for racing.  This would be the perfect 
candidate to get BMC in the game and a hoot to boot.
There are 2 races in our area, Thunderhill and Infinion.
Clif 74 JH  (not the same car)

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Walter & Gwen Kilchherr" <wkilch at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:01 PM
To: <Nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Nobbc] 24 hours of lemons

> Has anyone seen this. This is so cool!
>
> http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/
>
> Walter
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Fri Oct  8 20:22:43 2010
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 19:22:43 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] 24 hours of lemons
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Oh.  And if you hurry, there is a race at Button Willow Dec 4/5.


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From: "Walter & Gwen Kilchherr" <wkilch at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:01 PM
To: <Nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Nobbc] 24 hours of lemons

> Has anyone seen this. This is so cool!
>
> http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/
>
> Walter
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From mjansen at phreego.com  Fri Oct  8 21:47:29 2010
From: mjansen at phreego.com (mjansen at phreego.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 22:47:29 -0500
Subject: [Nobbc] Ride 10/9
Message-ID: <380-2201010693472960@phreego.com>

Have not been on ride with NOBBC this year. Will there be a group
meeting 10/9 in Larfield at 10:00?
Thanks, Mark

From nobbc at sonic.net  Sat Oct  9 00:14:43 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 23:14:43 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Ride 10/9
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We're doing something a little different tomorrow, meeting members of 
the MGOC for a joint ride led by Andy and Marla Preston. Here's what 
they have to say about it:

*************************************************************************
Hello Ron and all NoBBCers.  Marla and I will be leading an MG Owners Club
(MGOC) tour of Sonoma Wine Country this Saturday October 9th. and would like
to extend an invitation to the NoBBC to join us.  We will be meeting at
Sonoma Valley Bagel and Cafi at 350 Rohnert Park Expressway, at 9:00 and
leaving at 9:30 prompt.  We will be touring the back roads through Valley
Ford, Freestone, Occidental, and Forestville to our first stop at
<http://www.kozlowskifarms.com/> Kozlowski Farms (a specialty foods store).
We will then continue up Westside Road through Russian River Valley and Dry
Creek Valley to the famous  <http://www.franciscoppolawinery.com/> Francis
Ford Coppola Winery, for our second stop.  After which we will head to
Adel's diner in Healdsburg for lunch around 1:00 p.m.

If you would like to join us please RSVP so that I can confirm numbers at
Coppola Winery and reservations at Adels diner for lunch.
*************************************************************************

I think the route has since been altered to avoid Levi's Gran Fondo 
(6000 Bicyclists) which goes through Occidental.

Ron
58 MGA



mjansen at phreego.com wrote:
> Have not been on ride with NOBBC this year. Will there be a group
> meeting 10/9 in Larfield at 10:00?
> Thanks, Mark
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From mjansen at phreego.com  Sat Oct  9 09:12:23 2010
From: mjansen at phreego.com (mjansen at phreego.com)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 10:12:23 -0500
Subject: [Nobbc] Ride 10/9
Message-ID: <380-220101069151223357@phreego.com>

Thanks for the info Ron, I think I pass on this one and hook up with
you guy's next time.
Mark

From mewgull at sonic.net  Mon Oct 11 17:13:17 2010
From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:13:17 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4A is back in Calif.
In-Reply-To: <90938A90-4328-45EF-B824-E7597F1C9354@sonic.net>
References: <1491011486.1574596.1285949739174.JavaMail.root@sz0100a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<8C01E881C86A4084932A6DA6E14801E4@williamsonPC>
	<21A6CCDF-12E6-4475-90F8-D2767CAA6715@sonic.net>
	<4CA64F0B.4020500@sonic.net>
	<F41AD347-7E65-4719-AE91-EEE7538A39FE@sonic.net>
	<90938A90-4328-45EF-B824-E7597F1C9354@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <9CB77E83-5042-4386-AA7F-148815CE8585@sonic.net>

Hi all,

The TR4A made it to Glen Ellen with very few mis-steps.    After
departing Flagstaff all went well to the Calif border.   We even went
up to 5500 in 4th for a while to escape someone following excessively
closely.   We'd planned to make it to Bakersfield to take in all the
culture of that lovely city.  :-D

However, abouut 130 miles west of needles I made an interesting
discovery;  just because the gauge indicates that a third of a tank
remains, it ain't necessarily so.  She coughed a few times and then
allowed me to coax her to the next roadside call box.   Whew.....
There was some apprehension that it wasn't something so simple as an
empty tank since I did previously notice a bit of weep from the fuel
pump.  After an excruciating  wait for the rescue,  two gallons was
all it took.  Now behind schedule we were on our way once more.   We
ended up spending the night in that garden spot of the Mojave: Barstow.

In the morning all of the interesting passes over the Sierra remained
closed so there was to be no Tioga for us.  Dang it.   Okay... over
toward I-5 with an arabesque to avoid Bakersfield.... via Arvin.  We
were home shortly after sundown and she was comfortably snuggled in
the garage next to the German road rocket.   She seems to be fine but
has

She's settling in rather well and is only having a minor incontinence
problem... she did pee on the garage floor a little her first night.

Which brings me to a question for those with experience coddling the
old timers.  What is THE choice of oil?

I was told by a TR3 owner that, to protect the cam and valve gear,  I
should use this stuff:

http://www.valvoline.com/products/brands/racing/racing-motor-oil/9

What I heard and read online is that the modern oils don't have the
needed zinc for these old engines.  Is there any consensus of the best
stuff to use?   She seems to convert some of her crankcase oil into
propellant when cruising long distances at speed and, as noted above,
she does piddle a little bit.   however there is no obvious issue with
the crankcase otherwisde.

What do you guys think?

Gerry


G. Mugele
mewgull at mugele.net

*** I am certain there is too much certainty in the world.   --
Michael Crichton

From rlmossholder at comcast.net  Mon Oct 11 21:51:42 2010
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 03:51:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4A is back in Calif.
In-Reply-To: <1911214025.324226.1286855275123.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <529932891.324367.1286855502161.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Gerry, 

Glad to read that you made it, sounds like it was a great trip. 
I just rebuilt the engine for my spitfire. I have been told to use a racing oil with zinc. DO NOT use a zinc additive with modern detergent oils. It will gum up the detergent in the oil and render the cleaning properties of the detergent useless. The result will be contaminated oil, a clogged filter, and excessive wear on the cam and bearings. The racing oils with zinc are specially formulated to work with our flat tappet cams. 

Just my 2 cents. 
Rich 

From gsb1159 at pacbell.net  Mon Oct 11 23:42:52 2010
From: gsb1159 at pacbell.net (Greg Badano)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:42:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4A is back in Calif.
In-Reply-To: <9CB77E83-5042-4386-AA7F-148815CE8585@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <611004.41848.qm@web180002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Gerry,
 
Congratulations on bringing her home.  If you do not write for a living, you
should.  What a wonderfully told story.  Love, loss, redemption, humor...it
had it all.

Enjoy!
 
Greg

--- On Mon, 10/11/10, G. Mugele <mewgull at sonic.net> wrote:


From: G. Mugele <mewgull at sonic.net>
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4A is back in Calif.
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, October 11, 2010, 4:13 PM


Hi all,

The TR4A made it to Glen Ellen with very few mis-steps.    After
departing Flagstaff all went well to the Calif border.   We even went
up to 5500 in 4th for a while to escape someone following excessively
closely.   We'd planned to make it to Bakersfield to take in all the
culture of that lovely city.  :-D

However, abouut 130 miles west of needles I made an interesting
discovery;  just because the gauge indicates that a third of a tank
remains, it ain't necessarily so.  She coughed a few times and then
allowed me to coax her to the next roadside call box.   Whew.....
There was some apprehension that it wasn't something so simple as an
empty tank since I did previously notice a bit of weep from the fuel
pump.  After an excruciating  wait for the rescue,  two gallons was
all it took.  Now behind schedule we were on our way once more.   We
ended up spending the night in that garden spot of the Mojave: Barstow.

In the morning all of the interesting passes over the Sierra remained
closed so there was to be no Tioga for us.  Dang it.   Okay... over
toward I-5 with an arabesque to avoid Bakersfield.... via Arvin.  We
were home shortly after sundown and she was comfortably snuggled in
the garage next to the German road rocket.   She seems to be fine but
has

She's settling in rather well and is only having a minor incontinence
problem... she did pee on the garage floor a little her first night.

Which brings me to a question for those with experience coddling the
old timers.  What is THE choice of oil?

I was told by a TR3 owner that, to protect the cam and valve gear,  I
should use this stuff:

http://www.valvoline.com/products/brands/racing/racing-motor-oil/9

What I heard and read online is that the modern oils don't have the
needed zinc for these old engines.  Is there any consensus of the best
stuff to use?   She seems to convert some of her crankcase oil into
propellant when cruising long distances at speed and, as noted above,
she does piddle a little bit.   however there is no obvious issue with
the crankcase otherwisde.

What do you guys think?

Gerry


G. Mugele
mewgull at mugele.net

*** I am certain there is too much certainty in the world.   --
Michael Crichton
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From klhoush at comcast.net  Mon Oct 11 23:44:45 2010
From: klhoush at comcast.net (Kurt Housh)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:44:45 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4A is back in Calif.
In-Reply-To: <9CB77E83-5042-4386-AA7F-148815CE8585@sonic.net>
References: <1491011486.1574596.1285949739174.JavaMail.root@sz0100a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><8C01E881C86A4084932A6DA6E14801E4@williamsonPC><21A6CCDF-12E6-4475-90F8-D2767CAA6715@sonic.net><4CA64F0B.4020500@sonic.net><F41AD347-7E65-4719-AE91-EEE7538A39FE@sonic.net><90938A90-4328-45EF-B824-E7597F1C9354@sonic.net>
	<9CB77E83-5042-4386-AA7F-148815CE8585@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <FF8EF68102E24ED99C8379B9F82C8027@jensen>

Congrats Gerry!

I've done extensive reading on the subject. Zddp has been removed from
automotive oils to keep catalytic converters in top shape. Motorcycle,
diesel, and some "racing" oils still have it.
 
Kragen sells the consumer version, Valvoline 20/50 VR1 "racing" oil. It has
the zddp and the detergent you need. It's rated SM for passenger cars.  

If you want synthetic get RedLine. The others don't have the zddp.

Kurt

From wbain at sonic.net  Tue Oct 12 11:34:24 2010
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 10:34:24 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4A is back in Calif.
In-Reply-To: <9CB77E83-5042-4386-AA7F-148815CE8585@sonic.net>
References: <1491011486.1574596.1285949739174.JavaMail.root@sz0100a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<8C01E881C86A4084932A6DA6E14801E4@williamsonPC>
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Message-ID: <D196CD55-C689-4765-BC2D-A2E5E1954049@sonic.net>

Hi Gerry,

Glad to hear you made it back with few problems.

My Morgan has the same engine as your TR. I have been using
Chevron Delo for diesel engines with zddp (zinc phosphate), either
multi grade or single grade since the oil companies removed zddp to
please
the big three without warning so catalytic converters in new cars would
live longer.
I also use.... Are you ready? STP that has zddp in it. Flat tappet
engines should be using something with this additive and with
EVERY OIL CHANGE.
Never mind what they tell you about just for break-in mileage only.
OR you can replace the cam and tappets along with the bearings,
oil pump, etc. as you will start getting metal flakes in the oil
and that gets pumped everywhere.

The TR engine should rev. to 6000 without problems with stock rods.
Beyond that you need Carillo or some other racing rods and unless
the engine has been really tweeked to make power above 6000 you
should be fine. Speaking of being fine, it seems we have an incomplete
sentence (see red type below).

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Wendell


On Oct 11, 2010, at 4:13 PM, G. Mugele wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The TR4A made it to Glen Ellen with very few mis-steps.    After
> departing Flagstaff all went well to the Calif border.   We even went
> up to 5500 in 4th for a while to escape someone following excessively
> closely.   We'd planned to make it to Bakersfield to take in all the
> culture of that lovely city.  :-D
>
> However, abouut 130 miles west of needles I made an interesting
> discovery;  just because the gauge indicates that a third of a tank
> remains, it ain't necessarily so.  She coughed a few times and then
> allowed me to coax her to the next roadside call box.   Whew.....
> There was some apprehension that it wasn't something so simple as an
> empty tank since I did previously notice a bit of weep from the fuel
> pump.  After an excruciating  wait for the rescue,  two gallons was
> all it took.  Now behind schedule we were on our way once more.   We
> ended up spending the night in that garden spot of the Mojave:
> Barstow.
>
> In the morning all of the interesting passes over the Sierra remained
> closed so there was to be no Tioga for us.  Dang it.   Okay... over
> toward I-5 with an arabesque to avoid Bakersfield.... via Arvin.  We
> were home shortly after sundown and she was comfortably snuggled in
> the garage next to the German road rocket.   She seems to be fine but
> has
>
> She's settling in rather well and is only having a minor incontinence
> problem... she did pee on the garage floor a little her first night.
>
> Which brings me to a question for those with experience coddling the
> old timers.  What is THE choice of oil?
>
> I was told by a TR3 owner that, to protect the cam and valve gear,  I
> should use this stuff:
>
> http://www.valvoline.com/products/brands/racing/racing-motor-oil/9
>
> What I heard and read online is that the modern oils don't have the
> needed zinc for these old engines.  Is there any consensus of the best
> stuff to use?   She seems to convert some of her crankcase oil into
> propellant when cruising long distances at speed and, as noted above,
> she does piddle a little bit.   however there is no obvious issue with
> the crankcase otherwisde.
>
> What do you guys think?
>
> Gerry
>
>
> G. Mugele
> mewgull at mugele.net
>
> *** I am certain there is too much certainty in the world.   --
> Michael Crichton
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Tue Oct 12 12:29:16 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:29:16 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4A is back in Calif.
In-Reply-To: <9CB77E83-5042-4386-AA7F-148815CE8585@sonic.net>
References: <1491011486.1574596.1285949739174.JavaMail.root@sz0100a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<8C01E881C86A4084932A6DA6E14801E4@williamsonPC>
	<21A6CCDF-12E6-4475-90F8-D2767CAA6715@sonic.net>
	<4CA64F0B.4020500@sonic.net>
	<F41AD347-7E65-4719-AE91-EEE7538A39FE@sonic.net>
	<90938A90-4328-45EF-B824-E7597F1C9354@sonic.net>
	<9CB77E83-5042-4386-AA7F-148815CE8585@sonic.net>
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Sounds like a fun trip (except for the lack of fuel). Steve always kept 
that car in top condition so no surprise that the trip was uneventful 
mechanically. Just wondering if Steve's large Brit flag was still in the 
boot...he hauled it out at every Nobbc ride. I hope you can bring the 
car to a club ride soon, it'll be great seeing her again!

Ron
58 MGA

G. Mugele wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> The TR4A made it to Glen Ellen with very few mis-steps.    After
> departing Flagstaff all went well to the Calif border.   We even went
> up to 5500 in 4th for a while to escape someone following excessively
> closely.   We'd planned to make it to Bakersfield to take in all the
> culture of that lovely city.  :-D
> 
> However, abouut 130 miles west of needles I made an interesting
> discovery;  just because the gauge indicates that a third of a tank
> remains, it ain't necessarily so.  She coughed a few times and then
> allowed me to coax her to the next roadside call box.   Whew.....
> There was some apprehension that it wasn't something so simple as an
> empty tank since I did previously notice a bit of weep from the fuel
> pump.  After an excruciating  wait for the rescue,  two gallons was
> all it took.  Now behind schedule we were on our way once more.   We
> ended up spending the night in that garden spot of the Mojave: Barstow.
> 
> In the morning all of the interesting passes over the Sierra remained
> closed so there was to be no Tioga for us.  Dang it.   Okay... over
> toward I-5 with an arabesque to avoid Bakersfield.... via Arvin.  We
> were home shortly after sundown and she was comfortably snuggled in
> the garage next to the German road rocket.   She seems to be fine but
> has
> 
> She's settling in rather well and is only having a minor incontinence
> problem... she did pee on the garage floor a little her first night.
> 
> Which brings me to a question for those with experience coddling the
> old timers.  What is THE choice of oil?
> 
> I was told by a TR3 owner that, to protect the cam and valve gear,  I
> should use this stuff:
> 
> http://www.valvoline.com/products/brands/racing/racing-motor-oil/9
> 
> What I heard and read online is that the modern oils don't have the
> needed zinc for these old engines.  Is there any consensus of the best
> stuff to use?   She seems to convert some of her crankcase oil into
> propellant when cruising long distances at speed and, as noted above,
> she does piddle a little bit.   however there is no obvious issue with
> the crankcase otherwisde.
> 
> What do you guys think?
> 
> Gerry
> 
> 
> G. Mugele
> mewgull at mugele.net
> 
> *** I am certain there is too much certainty in the world.   --
> Michael Crichton
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $11.47
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From apexbrit2 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 12 16:46:12 2010
From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:46:12 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4A is back in Calif.
In-Reply-To: <D196CD55-C689-4765-BC2D-A2E5E1954049@sonic.net>
References: <1491011486.1574596.1285949739174.JavaMail.root@sz0100a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<8C01E881C86A4084932A6DA6E14801E4@williamsonPC>
	<21A6CCDF-12E6-4475-90F8-D2767CAA6715@sonic.net>
	<4CA64F0B.4020500@sonic.net>
	<F41AD347-7E65-4719-AE91-EEE7538A39FE@sonic.net>
	<90938A90-4328-45EF-B824-E7597F1C9354@sonic.net>
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	<D196CD55-C689-4765-BC2D-A2E5E1954049@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=4xfk7DMS1vQuhNZUSpxuOMZNn12N_nWYtescT@mail.gmail.com>

I have used Delo in racing engines with good results. Costco sells it.
Cheers, Rj

On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:34 AM, wendell bain <wbain at sonic.net> wrote:

> Hi Gerry,
>
> Glad to hear you made it back with few problems.
>
> My Morgan has the same engine as your TR. I have been using
> Chevron Delo for diesel engines with zddp (zinc phosphate), either
> multi grade or single grade since the oil companies removed zddp to
> please
> the big three without warning so catalytic converters in new cars would
> live longer.
> I also use.... Are you ready? STP that has zddp in it. Flat tappet
> engines should be using something with this additive and with
> EVERY OIL CHANGE.
> Never mind what they tell you about just for break-in mileage only.
> OR you can replace the cam and tappets along with the bearings,
> oil pump, etc. as you will start getting metal flakes in the oil
> and that gets pumped everywhere.
>
> The TR engine should rev. to 6000 without problems with stock rods.
> Beyond that you need Carillo or some other racing rods and unless
> the engine has been really tweeked to make power above 6000 you
> should be fine. Speaking of being fine, it seems we have an incomplete
> sentence (see red type below).
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wendell
>
>
> On Oct 11, 2010, at 4:13 PM, G. Mugele wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The TR4A made it to Glen Ellen with very few mis-steps.    After
> > departing Flagstaff all went well to the Calif border.   We even went
> > up to 5500 in 4th for a while to escape someone following excessively
> > closely.   We'd planned to make it to Bakersfield to take in all the
> > culture of that lovely city.  :-D
> >
> > However, abouut 130 miles west of needles I made an interesting
> > discovery;  just because the gauge indicates that a third of a tank
> > remains, it ain't necessarily so.  She coughed a few times and then
> > allowed me to coax her to the next roadside call box.   Whew.....
> > There was some apprehension that it wasn't something so simple as an
> > empty tank since I did previously notice a bit of weep from the fuel
> > pump.  After an excruciating  wait for the rescue,  two gallons was
> > all it took.  Now behind schedule we were on our way once more.   We
> > ended up spending the night in that garden spot of the Mojave:
> > Barstow.
> >
> > In the morning all of the interesting passes over the Sierra remained
> > closed so there was to be no Tioga for us.  Dang it.   Okay... over
> > toward I-5 with an arabesque to avoid Bakersfield.... via Arvin.  We
> > were home shortly after sundown and she was comfortably snuggled in
> > the garage next to the German road rocket.   She seems to be fine but
> > has
> >
> > She's settling in rather well and is only having a minor incontinence
> > problem... she did pee on the garage floor a little her first night.
> >
> > Which brings me to a question for those with experience coddling the
> > old timers.  What is THE choice of oil?
> >
> > I was told by a TR3 owner that, to protect the cam and valve gear,  I
> > should use this stuff:
> >
> > http://www.valvoline.com/products/brands/racing/racing-motor-oil/9
> >
> > What I heard and read online is that the modern oils don't have the
> > needed zinc for these old engines.  Is there any consensus of the best
> > stuff to use?   She seems to convert some of her crankcase oil into
> > propellant when cruising long distances at speed and, as noted above,
> > she does piddle a little bit.   however there is no obvious issue with
> > the crankcase otherwisde.
> >
> > What do you guys think?
> >
> > Gerry
> >
> >
> > G. Mugele
> > mewgull at mugele.net
> >
> > ***  I am certain there is too much certainty in the world.    --
> > Michael Crichton
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From mewgull at sonic.net  Tue Oct 12 18:24:59 2010
From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 17:24:59 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4A is back in Calif.
In-Reply-To: <D196CD55-C689-4765-BC2D-A2E5E1954049@sonic.net>
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Message-ID: <E00BEAB5-1E4C-41B9-A8D2-ECE8FA12120C@sonic.net>

Thanks for all the valuable feedback.   I'll be acquiring some Delo
since that seems like an obvious choice for those also have some
diesels in the fleet.
I did some checking around today and I find that the parts stores in
this area have a variety of alternatives (I mean Smothers and Santa
Rosa Auto Parts, not Kragen, etc) but they charge dearly for it.
While I would not like to scrimp where my new love's health and
welfare are concerned, I think spending more than $10 per quarts seems
excessive.

Wendell,
The missing piece of that sentence was that she seems to have low oil
level after resting for more than a few minutes.    I must have been
using a Lucas keyboard.

I put the volt meter on her last night and there was no obvious drop
in voltage by morning and I didn't see any puddle of electricks
underneath her this morning either so I'm taking that as a good sign
that she's not leaking electrics and that the smoke is still mostly in
the wires.

She probably won't make any Saturday rides for a while.... not until I
get some of the issues taken care of....  Steve took off the crank
driven fan and installed an electric.  It's not thermostatically
controlled however and I find that I obsess about the temp gauge,
especially in traffic.   I suspect that the radiator needs boiling
out, at a minimum.  So that's the first order of business.  The
throttle linkage is a bit mucked up.   Still have no wipers.  The
clutch needs attention and I have to find the source of those bangs,
groans, and creaks under acceleration.  Oil Pressure gauge is dead.
And so on.   So she's on a very short leash until all that is sorted
out to my comfort level.

Now... does anyone know where to find a new or refurbished Union
ignition locks.   This one is pretty used and loose.... it took me a
while to learn the combination: push the key in, turn about 5 degrees
clockwise, pull gently and slowly turn clockwise until starter
engages.  None of the keys seem to work in the doors and the trunk
locks or not at its option.

No flag in the boot but there is a single black calif license plate.
I'm hoping that Dee can find the other one.... or the original
registration.   That will allow me to keep the proper plates.

I'm also having a bit of hassle folding up the top.... there is no
doubt that I'm doing it wrong but I can't tell how.   When the top is
lowered into the bin behind the seats the two conical pins that mate
with the ports on the windshield frame point straight up.   They are
higher than the surrounding bodywork and so, when the tonneau is
pulled taut, I risk punching holes in it.  I need lessons in top
stowage.


On Oct 12, 2010, at 10:34 AM, wendell bain wrote:

> The TR engine should rev. to 6000 without problems with stock rods.
> Beyond that you need Carillo or some other racing rods and unless
> the engine has been really tweeked to make power above 6000 you
> should be fine. Speaking of being fine, it seems we have an incomplete
> sentence (see red type below).

G. Mugele
mewgull at mugele.net

*** I am certain there is too much certainty in the world.   --
Michael Crichton

From markdarley at mac.com  Tue Oct 12 18:33:45 2010
From: markdarley at mac.com (MarkDarley)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 17:33:45 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4A is back in Calif.
In-Reply-To: <E00BEAB5-1E4C-41B9-A8D2-ECE8FA12120C@sonic.net>
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	<8C01E881C86A4084932A6DA6E14801E4@williamsonPC>
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According to their guy on the phone, Kragen in San Rafael has Delo  
15/40 on sale for $11 a gallon. You might get you local store to match  
it.

This sounds like a great option for my leaky/burny 1957 1500 MGA.  
Anyone feel it is a bad choice?

MarkDarleyPhoto.com
Cell 415-310-5252
Sent from location.

On Oct 12, 2010, at 5:24 PM, "G. Mugele" <mewgull at sonic.net> wrote:

> Thanks for all the valuable feedback.   I'll be acquiring some Delo
> since that seems like an obvious choice for those also have some
> diesels in the fleet.
> I did some checking around today and I find that the parts stores in
> this area have a variety of alternatives (I mean Smothers and Santa
> Rosa Auto Parts, not Kragen, etc) but they charge dearly for it.
> While I would not like to scrimp where my new love's health and
> welfare are concerned, I think spending more than $10 per quarts seems
> excessive.
>
> Wendell,
> The missing piece of that sentence was that she seems to have low oil
> level after resting for more than a few minutes.    I must have been
> using a Lucas keyboard.
>
> I put the volt meter on her last night and there was no obvious drop
> in voltage by morning and I didn't see any puddle of electricks
> underneath her this morning either so I'm taking that as a good sign
> that she's not leaking electrics and that the smoke is still mostly in
> the wires.
>
> She probably won't make any Saturday rides for a while.... not until I
> get some of the issues taken care of....  Steve took off the crank
> driven fan and installed an electric.  It's not thermostatically
> controlled however and I find that I obsess about the temp gauge,
> especially in traffic.   I suspect that the radiator needs boiling
> out, at a minimum.  So that's the first order of business.  The
> throttle linkage is a bit mucked up.   Still have no wipers.  The
> clutch needs attention and I have to find the source of those bangs,
> groans, and creaks under acceleration.  Oil Pressure gauge is dead.
> And so on.   So she's on a very short leash until all that is sorted
> out to my comfort level.
>
> Now... does anyone know where to find a new or refurbished Union
> ignition locks.   This one is pretty used and loose.... it took me a
> while to learn the combination: push the key in, turn about 5 degrees
> clockwise, pull gently and slowly turn clockwise until starter
> engages.  None of the keys seem to work in the doors and the trunk
> locks or not at its option.
>
> No flag in the boot but there is a single black calif license plate.
> I'm hoping that Dee can find the other one.... or the original
> registration.   That will allow me to keep the proper plates.
>
> I'm also having a bit of hassle folding up the top.... there is no
> doubt that I'm doing it wrong but I can't tell how.   When the top is
> lowered into the bin behind the seats the two conical pins that mate
> with the ports on the windshield frame point straight up.   They are
> higher than the surrounding bodywork and so, when the tonneau is
> pulled taut, I risk punching holes in it.  I need lessons in top
> stowage.
>
>
> On Oct 12, 2010, at 10:34 AM, wendell bain wrote:
>
>> The TR engine should rev. to 6000 without problems with stock rods.
>> Beyond that you need Carillo or some other racing rods and unless
>> the engine has been really tweeked to make power above 6000 you
>> should be fine. Speaking of being fine, it seems we have an  
>> incomplete
>> sentence (see red type below).
>
> G. Mugele
> mewgull at mugele.net
>
> *** I am certain there is too much certainty in the world.   --
> Michael Crichton
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From wbain at sonic.net  Wed Oct 13 15:22:21 2010
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:22:21 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4A is back in Calif.
In-Reply-To: <E00BEAB5-1E4C-41B9-A8D2-ECE8FA12120C@sonic.net>
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Hi Gerry,

Thanks for filling in the blanks. Might be a defective gauge.
The TR engine should hold 70 psi @ 3000 rpm when warm. Truth is
it will fall off a little. The TR-4 range also has a voltage
stabilizer for the
dash board electric items and that might be the culprit for the varying
oil pressure readings.

As for the ignition issue, Moss Motors has the entire Ig. Switch
assembly with keys
for $25.95 + shipping and tax. Their part # 542-070. It sounds to me
like
whatever Steve installed is not something Standard-Triumph would
recognize.
I might be wrong but both of the TR-4's I owned had a simple twist
the key
to the right until it stops, twist a little further and the starter
motor would
activate then let it go back to the first stop. It would either start
or you would need
to crank some more.... And no I don't work for Moss Motors.

As for the top, some of the TR-4 range had a roadster top or a
convertible top.
The cars I owned had the roadster top. So I may be in ignorance of
how the
other one works. The roadster top is pretty straight forward but if
you wait until
it starts raining to put it up, you're going to get wet.

Hope this helps.

Wendell


On Oct 12, 2010, at 5:24 PM, G. Mugele wrote:

> Thanks for all the valuable feedback.   I'll be acquiring some Delo
> since that seems like an obvious choice for those also have some
> diesels in the fleet.
> I did some checking around today and I find that the parts stores in
> this area have a variety of alternatives (I mean Smothers and Santa
> Rosa Auto Parts, not Kragen, etc) but they charge dearly for it.
> While I would not like to scrimp where my new love's health and
> welfare are concerned, I think spending more than $10 per quarts seems
> excessive.
>
> Wendell,
> The missing piece of that sentence was that she seems to have low oil
> level after resting for more than a few minutes.    I must have been
> using a Lucas keyboard.
>
> I put the volt meter on her last night and there was no obvious drop
> in voltage by morning and I didn't see any puddle of electricks
> underneath her this morning either so I'm taking that as a good sign
> that she's not leaking electrics and that the smoke is still mostly in
> the wires.
>
> She probably won't make any Saturday rides for a while.... not until I
> get some of the issues taken care of....  Steve took off the crank
> driven fan and installed an electric.  It's not thermostatically
> controlled however and I find that I obsess about the temp gauge,
> especially in traffic.   I suspect that the radiator needs boiling
> out, at a minimum.  So that's the first order of business.  The
> throttle linkage is a bit mucked up.   Still have no wipers.  The
> clutch needs attention and I have to find the source of those bangs,
> groans, and creaks under acceleration.  Oil Pressure gauge is dead.
> And so on.   So she's on a very short leash until all that is sorted
> out to my comfort level.
>
> Now... does anyone know where to find a new or refurbished Union
> ignition locks.   This one is pretty used and loose.... it took me a
> while to learn the combination: push the key in, turn about 5 degrees
> clockwise, pull gently and slowly turn clockwise until starter
> engages.  None of the keys seem to work in the doors and the trunk
> locks or not at its option.
>
> No flag in the boot but there is a single black calif license plate.
> I'm hoping that Dee can find the other one.... or the original
> registration.   That will allow me to keep the proper plates.
>
> I'm also having a bit of hassle folding up the top.... there is no
> doubt that I'm doing it wrong but I can't tell how.   When the top is
> lowered into the bin behind the seats the two conical pins that mate
> with the ports on the windshield frame point straight up.   They are
> higher than the surrounding bodywork and so, when the tonneau is
> pulled taut, I risk punching holes in it.  I need lessons in top
> stowage.
>
>
> On Oct 12, 2010, at 10:34 AM, wendell bain wrote:
>
>> The TR engine should rev. to 6000 without problems with stock rods.
>> Beyond that you need Carillo or some other racing rods and unless
>> the engine has been really tweeked to make power above 6000 you
>> should be fine. Speaking of being fine, it seems we have an
>> incomplete
>> sentence (see red type below).
>
> G. Mugele
> mewgull at mugele.net
>
> *** I am certain there is too much certainty in the world.   --
> Michael Crichton
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From markdarley at mac.com  Tue Oct 19 17:04:44 2010
From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:04:44 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGA Oil quantities.
In-Reply-To: <84AADB3D-93C7-4BB6-81EE-29B450FCA4C7@sonic.net>
References: <D85E2D26A9D045BB8CC5EA04D6AD4269@mike>
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Message-ID: <AD49382B-D0C0-413C-A758-63E95C3E93F7@mac.com>

MGA owners:

I am a bit puzzled about the difference between what my MGA should  
take for oil and what it actually took.

I just replaced all the oils (and filter) after leaving everything to  
drain for an hour (level). I drove the car 4 miles to get everything  
warm.

The handbook says that the engine takes 9.5 US pints. Mine took only  
8.5 US pints.
The handbook says the rear axle takes 3.25 US pints. Mine took only 2  
pints to the filler plug hole.
The gearbox was the only thing that actually swallowed the  
recommended dose.

Should I be concerned, or is it just they they never fully drain?

Thanks
Mark


Mark Darley
markdarley at mac.com
Mobile Phone 415 310 5252

From nobbc at sonic.net  Tue Oct 19 17:34:30 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:34:30 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGA Oil quantities.
In-Reply-To: <AD49382B-D0C0-413C-A758-63E95C3E93F7@mac.com>
References: <D85E2D26A9D045BB8CC5EA04D6AD4269@mike>
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	<84AADB3D-93C7-4BB6-81EE-29B450FCA4C7@sonic.net>
	<AD49382B-D0C0-413C-A758-63E95C3E93F7@mac.com>
Message-ID: <4CBE2B06.9040009@sonic.net>

Do you have a dented oil pan ;-) Mine always takes just under 5 quarts 
with a new filter.

Ron
58 MGA

Mark Darley wrote:
> MGA owners:
> 
> I am a bit puzzled about the difference between what my MGA should  take 
> for oil and what it actually took.
> 
> I just replaced all the oils (and filter) after leaving everything to  
> drain for an hour (level). I drove the car 4 miles to get everything  warm.
> 
> The handbook says that the engine takes 9.5 US pints. Mine took only  
> 8.5 US pints.
> The handbook says the rear axle takes 3.25 US pints. Mine took only 2  
> pints to the filler plug hole.
> The gearbox was the only thing that actually swallowed the  recommended 
> dose.
> 
> Should I be concerned, or is it just they they never fully drain?
> 
> Thanks
> Mark
> 
> 
> Mark Darley
> markdarley at mac.com
> Mobile Phone 415 310 5252
> _______________________________________________
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From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 19 18:04:52 2010
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:04:52 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGA Oil quantities.
In-Reply-To: <AD49382B-D0C0-413C-A758-63E95C3E93F7@mac.com>
References: <D85E2D26A9D045BB8CC5EA04D6AD4269@mike><91822B4B3FE9497B9522BEA37FD2B7F4@williamsonPC><D3E2C1C5F3684DA4B48980D6712FC06F@mike><4903C230-249A-4043-9DDE-9F91A8970F04@mac.com><F68063F5-A9F3-42C0-BE26-D5F519433291@mac.com><C0682F7D4ACA434D9CF9FB2839BA2D4E@mike><84AADB3D-93C7-4BB6-81EE-29B450FCA4C7@sonic.net>
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Message-ID: <2AEADBBC648042EB93693930F3D35EFD@MARLA>

Hi Mark, mine takes 4.5 quarts including the filter and I don't have a
dented oil pan; although I used to.  My dipstick touches the bottom of the
oil pan when it's pushed all the way down, I wonder if it should; that would
account for the difference between ours and Rons.

Andy  

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Mark Darley
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:05 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] MGA Oil quantities.

MGA owners:

I am a bit puzzled about the difference between what my MGA should  
take for oil and what it actually took.

I just replaced all the oils (and filter) after leaving everything to  
drain for an hour (level). I drove the car 4 miles to get everything  
warm.

The handbook says that the engine takes 9.5 US pints. Mine took only  
8.5 US pints.
The handbook says the rear axle takes 3.25 US pints. Mine took only 2  
pints to the filler plug hole.
The gearbox was the only thing that actually swallowed the  
recommended dose.

Should I be concerned, or is it just they they never fully drain?

Thanks
Mark


Mark Darley
markdarley at mac.com
Mobile Phone 415 310 5252
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From markdarley at mac.com  Tue Oct 19 18:41:40 2010
From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:41:40 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGA Oil quantities.
In-Reply-To: <2AEADBBC648042EB93693930F3D35EFD@MARLA>
References: <D85E2D26A9D045BB8CC5EA04D6AD4269@mike>
	<91822B4B3FE9497B9522BEA37FD2B7F4@williamsonPC>
	<D3E2C1C5F3684DA4B48980D6712FC06F@mike>
	<4903C230-249A-4043-9DDE-9F91A8970F04@mac.com>
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	<C0682F7D4ACA434D9CF9FB2839BA2D4E@mike>
	<84AADB3D-93C7-4BB6-81EE-29B450FCA4C7@sonic.net>
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	<2AEADBBC648042EB93693930F3D35EFD@MARLA>
Message-ID: <6074C2B5-B3EC-4386-99B4-5751CA0829FD@mac.com>

Andy and Ron,

The oilpan is not significantly dented, and yes my dipstick seems to  
hit bottom. I guess I will just keep an eye on it.

Also my oil pressure seems a bit higher.  It used to run about 40 at  
tickover and 60 when on the highway at speed. Now it seems to want to  
stay closer to 60. I am putting that down to denser oil as it is so  
new, and I expect it to drop a bit. I used Valvoline 20-50 V1.

Any suggestions as to the discrepancy on the rear axle? I fill it  
using a hose with a funnel on a light stand above the car.  When it  
won't take any more I stop and let the excess drain out from the  
filler plug hole.

Mark

Mark Darley
markdarley at mac.com
Mobile Phone 415 310 5252



On Oct 19, 2010, at 5:04 PM, andy preston wrote:

> Hi Mark, mine takes 4.5 quarts including the filter and I don't have a
> dented oil pan; although I used to.  My dipstick touches the bottom  
> of the
> oil pan when it's pushed all the way down, I wonder if it should;  
> that would
> account for the difference between ours and Rons.
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- 
> bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Mark Darley
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:05 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: [Nobbc] MGA Oil quantities.
>
> MGA owners:
>
> I am a bit puzzled about the difference between what my MGA should
> take for oil and what it actually took.
>
> I just replaced all the oils (and filter) after leaving everything to
> drain for an hour (level). I drove the car 4 miles to get everything
> warm.
>
> The handbook says that the engine takes 9.5 US pints. Mine took only
> 8.5 US pints.
> The handbook says the rear axle takes 3.25 US pints. Mine took only 2
> pints to the filler plug hole.
> The gearbox was the only thing that actually swallowed the
> recommended dose.
>
> Should I be concerned, or is it just they they never fully drain?
>
> Thanks
> Mark
>
>
> Mark Darley
> markdarley at mac.com
> Mobile Phone 415 310 5252
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From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 19 19:13:36 2010
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:13:36 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGA Oil quantities.
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Mark, when I changed the rear axle oil I just filled it until oil started to
run out from the bottom of the filler hole.  I didn't measure how much it
took.  I don't see any problem if you filled it to the bottom of the filler
hole.  Your oil pressure seems good.  Mine is around 40 at tick over and
60-70 at highway speeds on a newly rebuilt engine.  When really hot it drops
to 60 on the freeway.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Mark Darley
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 5:42 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGA Oil quantities.

Andy and Ron,

The oilpan is not significantly dented, and yes my dipstick seems to  
hit bottom. I guess I will just keep an eye on it.

Also my oil pressure seems a bit higher.  It used to run about 40 at  
tickover and 60 when on the highway at speed. Now it seems to want to  
stay closer to 60. I am putting that down to denser oil as it is so  
new, and I expect it to drop a bit. I used Valvoline 20-50 V1.

Any suggestions as to the discrepancy on the rear axle? I fill it  
using a hose with a funnel on a light stand above the car.  When it  
won't take any more I stop and let the excess drain out from the  
filler plug hole.

Mark

Mark Darley
markdarley at mac.com
Mobile Phone 415 310 5252



On Oct 19, 2010, at 5:04 PM, andy preston wrote:

> Hi Mark, mine takes 4.5 quarts including the filter and I don't have a
> dented oil pan; although I used to.  My dipstick touches the bottom  
> of the
> oil pan when it's pushed all the way down, I wonder if it should;  
> that would
> account for the difference between ours and Rons.
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- 
> bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Mark Darley
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:05 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: [Nobbc] MGA Oil quantities.
>
> MGA owners:
>
> I am a bit puzzled about the difference between what my MGA should
> take for oil and what it actually took.
>
> I just replaced all the oils (and filter) after leaving everything to
> drain for an hour (level). I drove the car 4 miles to get everything
> warm.
>
> The handbook says that the engine takes 9.5 US pints. Mine took only
> 8.5 US pints.
> The handbook says the rear axle takes 3.25 US pints. Mine took only 2
> pints to the filler plug hole.
> The gearbox was the only thing that actually swallowed the
> recommended dose.
>
> Should I be concerned, or is it just they they never fully drain?
>
> Thanks
> Mark
>
>
> Mark Darley
> markdarley at mac.com
> Mobile Phone 415 310 5252
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From liamof at earthlink.net  Tue Oct 19 19:33:29 2010
From: liamof at earthlink.net (Liam O'Flaherty)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:33:29 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGA Oil quantities.
In-Reply-To: <6074C2B5-B3EC-4386-99B4-5751CA0829FD@mac.com>
References: <D85E2D26A9D045BB8CC5EA04D6AD4269@mike>
	<91822B4B3FE9497B9522BEA37FD2B7F4@williamsonPC>
	<D3E2C1C5F3684DA4B48980D6712FC06F@mike>
	<4903C230-249A-4043-9DDE-9F91A8970F04@mac.com>
	<F68063F5-A9F3-42C0-BE26-D5F519433291@mac.com>
	<C0682F7D4ACA434D9CF9FB2839BA2D4E@mike>
	<84AADB3D-93C7-4BB6-81EE-29B450FCA4C7@sonic.net>
	<AD49382B-D0C0-413C-A758-63E95C3E93F7@mac.com>
	<2AEADBBC648042EB93693930F3D35EFD@MARLA>
	<6074C2B5-B3EC-4386-99B4-5751CA0829FD@mac.com>
Message-ID: <44B05C41-ADE7-4CA4-92EF-BBEF81BB02FE@earthlink.net>

Hi Mark,
The engine oil discrepancy may be due to the fact the new  oil filter was not
full of oil.  I know you have the canister type which seems to hold at least a
pint itself.  Try running it and then check the oil level again and it may
need another quart.   my dipstick hits the bottom also.  Also my mga workshop
manual says 9 us pints not 9.5 pints

The rear end is puzzeling.  I figure the car was level when you filled it.
The oil should fill up the diff in the middle and run down each length of axle
tube to  the hub bearings.  Also, my mga manual says it takes 2.7 US pints
(General Data page 6, Capacities) not 3.25 US pints as you stated.  Maybe run
it and check the level again.  Maybe there is some air trapped inside.

Are you using the MGA Workshop manual?  or another publication.  I purchased
mine in 1980  but maybe they changed some of the stuff in it in the recent
editions?

My mga is down due to losing a chunk of my #2 exhaust valve.  I am having JNW
Engine and Machine in Santa Rosa work on my back up head (1622).  Hopefully I
will be on the road again soon.

Happy Trails,

Liam

On Oct 19, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Mark Darley wrote:

> Andy and Ron,
>
> The oilpan is not significantly dented, and yes my dipstick seems to hit
bottom. I guess I will just keep an eye on it.
>
> Also my oil pressure seems a bit higher.  It used to run about 40 at
tickover and 60 when on the highway at speed. Now it seems to want to stay
closer to 60. I am putting that down to denser oil as it is so new, and I
expect it to drop a bit. I used Valvoline 20-50 V1.
>
> Any suggestions as to the discrepancy on the rear axle? I fill it using a
hose with a funnel on a light stand above the car.  When it won't take any
more I stop and let the excess drain out from the filler plug hole.
>
> Mark
>
> Mark Darley
> markdarley at mac.com
> Mobile Phone 415 310 5252
>
>
>
> On Oct 19, 2010, at 5:04 PM, andy preston wrote:
>
>> Hi Mark, mine takes 4.5 quarts including the filter and I don't have a
>> dented oil pan; although I used to.  My dipstick touches the bottom of the
>> oil pan when it's pushed all the way down, I wonder if it should; that
would
>> account for the difference between ours and Rons.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On
>> Behalf Of Mark Darley
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:05 PM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: [Nobbc] MGA Oil quantities.
>>
>> MGA owners:
>>
>> I am a bit puzzled about the difference between what my MGA should
>> take for oil and what it actually took.
>>
>> I just replaced all the oils (and filter) after leaving everything to
>> drain for an hour (level). I drove the car 4 miles to get everything
>> warm.
>>
>> The handbook says that the engine takes 9.5 US pints. Mine took only
>> 8.5 US pints.
>> The handbook says the rear axle takes 3.25 US pints. Mine took only 2
>> pints to the filler plug hole.
>> The gearbox was the only thing that actually swallowed the
>> recommended dose.
>>
>> Should I be concerned, or is it just they they never fully drain?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> Mark Darley
>> markdarley at mac.com
>> Mobile Phone 415 310 5252
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From mvg1 at att.net  Tue Oct 19 20:35:48 2010
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 19:35:48 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGA Oil quantities.
References: <D85E2D26A9D045BB8CC5EA04D6AD4269@mike><91822B4B3FE9497B9522BEA37FD2B7F4@williamsonPC><D3E2C1C5F3684DA4B48980D6712FC06F@mike><4903C230-249A-4043-9DDE-9F91A8970F04@mac.com><F68063F5-A9F3-42C0-BE26-D5F519433291@mac.com><C0682F7D4ACA434D9CF9FB2839BA2D4E@mike><84AADB3D-93C7-4BB6-81EE-29B450FCA4C7@sonic.net><AD49382B-D0C0-413C-A758-63E95C3E93F7@mac.com><2AEADBBC648042EB93693930F3D35EFD@MARLA><6074C2B5-B3EC-4386-99B4-5751CA0829FD@mac.com>
	<44B05C41-ADE7-4CA4-92EF-BBEF81BB02FE@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <16BE22FFB1144D46A8DE6821F9BC8DB4@mike>

Marc & Andy,

Maybe a stupid question from a Triumph guy, but do you both have the same 
engine, or do one of have a 1500 and the other a 1600? Wouldn't that make a 
difference? I'm not an MG guy, but I do know that there the two sizes.

Michael
64 TR4

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Liam O'Flaherty" <liamof at earthlink.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGA Oil quantities.


> Hi Mark,
> The engine oil discrepancy may be due to the fact the new  oil filter was 
> not
> full of oil.  I know you have the canister type which seems to hold at 
> least a
> pint itself.  Try running it and then check the oil level again and it may
> need another quart.   my dipstick hits the bottom also.  Also my mga 
> workshop
> manual says 9 us pints not 9.5 pints
>
> The rear end is puzzeling.  I figure the car was level when you filled it.
> The oil should fill up the diff in the middle and run down each length of 
> axle
> tube to  the hub bearings.  Also, my mga manual says it takes 2.7 US pints
> (General Data page 6, Capacities) not 3.25 US pints as you stated.  Maybe 
> run
> it and check the level again.  Maybe there is some air trapped inside.
>
> Are you using the MGA Workshop manual?  or another publication.  I 
> purchased
> mine in 1980  but maybe they changed some of the stuff in it in the recent
> editions?
>
> My mga is down due to losing a chunk of my #2 exhaust valve.  I am having 
> JNW
> Engine and Machine in Santa Rosa work on my back up head (1622). 
> Hopefully I
> will be on the road again soon.
>
> Happy Trails,
>
> Liam
>
> On Oct 19, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Mark Darley wrote:
>
>> Andy and Ron,
>>
>> The oilpan is not significantly dented, and yes my dipstick seems to hit
> bottom. I guess I will just keep an eye on it.
>>
>> Also my oil pressure seems a bit higher.  It used to run about 40 at
> tickover and 60 when on the highway at speed. Now it seems to want to stay
> closer to 60. I am putting that down to denser oil as it is so new, and I
> expect it to drop a bit. I used Valvoline 20-50 V1.
>>
>> Any suggestions as to the discrepancy on the rear axle? I fill it using a
> hose with a funnel on a light stand above the car.  When it won't take any
> more I stop and let the excess drain out from the filler plug hole.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> Mark Darley
>> markdarley at mac.com
>> Mobile Phone 415 310 5252
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2010, at 5:04 PM, andy preston wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mark, mine takes 4.5 quarts including the filter and I don't have a
>>> dented oil pan; although I used to.  My dipstick touches the bottom of 
>>> the
>>> oil pan when it's pushed all the way down, I wonder if it should; that
> would
>>> account for the difference between ours and Rons.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On
>>> Behalf Of Mark Darley
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:05 PM
>>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>> Subject: [Nobbc] MGA Oil quantities.
>>>
>>> MGA owners:
>>>
>>> I am a bit puzzled about the difference between what my MGA should
>>> take for oil and what it actually took.
>>>
>>> I just replaced all the oils (and filter) after leaving everything to
>>> drain for an hour (level). I drove the car 4 miles to get everything
>>> warm.
>>>
>>> The handbook says that the engine takes 9.5 US pints. Mine took only
>>> 8.5 US pints.
>>> The handbook says the rear axle takes 3.25 US pints. Mine took only 2
>>> pints to the filler plug hole.
>>> The gearbox was the only thing that actually swallowed the
>>> recommended dose.
>>>
>>> Should I be concerned, or is it just they they never fully drain?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark Darley
>>> markdarley at mac.com
>>> Mobile Phone 415 310 5252
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Tue Oct 19 20:53:04 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 19:53:04 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGA Oil quantities.
In-Reply-To: <2AEADBBC648042EB93693930F3D35EFD@MARLA>
References: <D85E2D26A9D045BB8CC5EA04D6AD4269@mike><91822B4B3FE9497B9522BEA37FD2B7F4@williamsonPC><D3E2C1C5F3684DA4B48980D6712FC06F@mike><4903C230-249A-4043-9DDE-9F91A8970F04@mac.com><F68063F5-A9F3-42C0-BE26-D5F519433291@mac.com><C0682F7D4ACA434D9CF9FB2839BA2D4E@mike><84AADB3D-93C7-4BB6-81EE-29B450FCA4C7@sonic.net>
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	<2AEADBBC648042EB93693930F3D35EFD@MARLA>
Message-ID: <4CBE5990.80101@sonic.net>

Mine does take about 4.5 and the dipstick touches bottom...I think it's 
supposed to as there is no lip farther up to stop it.

Ron
58 MGA

andy preston wrote:

> Hi Mark, mine takes 4.5 quarts including the filter and I don't have a
> dented oil pan; although I used to.  My dipstick touches the bottom of the
> oil pan when it's pushed all the way down, I wonder if it should; that would
> account for the difference between ours and Rons.
> 
> Andy  

From don at napanet.net  Wed Oct 20 00:00:36 2010
From: don at napanet.net (Don)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 23:00:36 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] My new Ride with amazing story
Message-ID: <20101020060045.8440CAE698@mail.dsl.napanet.net>

Jim Legg is an MG nut who lives in Napa.  I just got this email from 
him about his windfall MGB which just came his way.  Interesting 
story and very good luck for him.  In all the years of searching for 
and occasionally buying MGs and other British cars, I never had the 
good fortune he just had.





>Check this freebie Don!  See the story on the MGE under "Almost a 
>barn find (it followed me home)".  Can't believe my luck!
>
>http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?1,1582979

From gonzosaurs at comcast.net  Fri Oct 22 17:32:15 2010
From: gonzosaurs at comcast.net (gonzosaurs at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 23:32:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] Fwd: THE MORGAN
In-Reply-To: <8F1890DF-AEA8-4EF1-8D66-3512851A2F43@surewest.net>
Message-ID: <1787133831.212867.1287790335234.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

I thought you folks might like to see a car that will leave you lusting for
it,
dan,
tr-260
tr-6
----- Forwarded Message -----

Subject: Fwd: THE MORGAN




























The Morgan Motor Company located in Britain doesnbt change in a changing
world. Not only is it still independent, but it also makes each car by hand. A
base model is about $44,000, with some cars costing up to $300,000. P eople
wait for over a year to get their exclusive hand-built cars with the shell
made out of metal and much of the vehicle made out of wood. Working on the
wood interior, workers use metal shears to individually shape a hood because
each car has to be different. Every year Morgan produces about 600 cars. The
company will celebrate its 100th anniversary in 2011. It has a long and
interesting history, and is still run by the same family: the Morgans. Founded
by Henry Frederick Stanley Morgan known as bHFSb, it was then run by his
son Peter, and is now run by Charles, the son of Peter Morgan.


1

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15 I wonder what kind of engine is in it??

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22 I like this one best.

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There are craftsmenb&b&and then, there are Craftsmen !!

From nobbc at sonic.net  Fri Oct 22 17:46:53 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:46:53 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fwd: THE MORGAN
In-Reply-To: <1787133831.212867.1287790335234.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1787133831.212867.1287790335234.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4CC2226D.9060000@sonic.net>

Dan, Do you have a link for this? The list server strips off HTML.

Ron
58 MGA

gonzosaurs at comcast.net wrote:
> I thought you folks might like to see a car that will leave you lusting for
> it,
> dan,
> tr-260
> tr-6
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> 
> Subject: Fwd: THE MORGAN
> 
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> The Morgan Motor Company located in Britain doesnbt change in a changing
> world. Not only is it still independent, but it also makes each car by hand. A
> base model is about $44,000, with some cars costing up to $300,000. P eople
> wait for over a year to get their exclusive hand-built cars with the shell
> made out of metal and much of the vehicle made out of wood. Working on the
> wood interior, workers use metal shears to individually shape a hood because
> each car has to be different. Every year Morgan produces about 600 cars. The
> company will celebrate its 100th anniversary in 2011. It has a long and
> interesting history, and is still run by the same family: the Morgans. Founded
> by Henry Frederick Stanley Morgan known as bHFSb, it was then run by his
> son Peter, and is now run by Charles, the son of Peter Morgan.
> 
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> 15 I wonder what kind of engine is in it??
> 
> 16
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> 17
> 
> 18
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> 19
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> 20
> 
> 21
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> 22 I like this one best.
> 
> 23
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> 24
> 
> There are craftsmenb&b&and then, there are Craftsmen !!
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Sat Oct 23 09:50:11 2010
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 08:50:11 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Fwd: THE MORGAN
In-Reply-To: <4CC2226D.9060000@sonic.net>
References: <1787133831.212867.1287790335234.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<4CC2226D.9060000@sonic.net>
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There was a little interest in the 74 JH for 24 hours of Lemons.  It is now 
sold, gone, and to a home that is interested in bringing it back to usable 
life.  Should be a hell of a project, but I think he can handle it.
Good luck Dawson!
Clif 74 JH

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 4:46 PM
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fwd: THE MORGAN

> Dan, Do you have a link for this? The list server strips off HTML.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> gonzosaurs at comcast.net wrote:
>> I thought you folks might like to see a car that will leave you lusting 
>> for
>> it,
>> dan,
>> tr-260
>> tr-6
>> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>>
>> Subject: Fwd: THE MORGAN
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The Morgan Motor Company located in Britain doesnbt change in a changing
>> world. Not only is it still independent, but it also makes each car by 
>> hand. A
>> base model is about $44,000, with some cars costing up to $300,000. P 
>> eople
>> wait for over a year to get their exclusive hand-built cars with the 
>> shell
>> made out of metal and much of the vehicle made out of wood. Working on 
>> the
>> wood interior, workers use metal shears to individually shape a hood 
>> because
>> each car has to be different. Every year Morgan produces about 600 cars. 
>> The
>> company will celebrate its 100th anniversary in 2011. It has a long and
>> interesting history, and is still run by the same family: the Morgans. 
>> Founded
>> by Henry Frederick Stanley Morgan known as b
HFSb
, it was then run by 
>> his
>> son Peter, and is now run by Charles, the son of Peter Morgan.
>>
>>
>> 1
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>> 13
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>> 14
>>
>> 15 I wonder what kind of engine is in it??
>>
>> 16
>>
>> 17
>>
>> 18
>>
>> 19
>>
>> 20
>>
>> 21
>>
>> 22 I like this one best.
>>
>> 23
>>
>> 24
>>
>> There are craftsmenb&b&and then, there are Craftsmen !!
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From mewgull at sonic.net  Wed Oct 27 18:40:50 2010
From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:40:50 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] JB 007s DB5
Message-ID: <64973A63-7D9A-4447-AB08-3ACEC43F855D@sonic.net>

The Machine Gun option....

This is a detail shot from the James Bond Aston Martin that just sold
at auction.  The indicator lights look an awful lot like those on
Series Land Rovers
and various other contemporary Brit cars.  Maybe I should check and
make sure I didn't get the guns.

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/james-bonds-aston-martin-db5/#3514751

I needed that option on 101 yesterday when someone cut me off and
slammed on the brakes to get to an exit as I nearly rear-ended them.

Of course, the Land Rover really did have a twin 50 cal option, but I
suspect US customs and/or ATF might have put up a fuss about that.
Still, the mounting hardware was listed in the optional hardware
catalogue.

It's fun to look at all the other photos of it too.


G. Mugele
mewgull at mugele.net

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Michael Crichton

From nobbc at sonic.net  Wed Oct 27 19:24:56 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 18:24:56 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 1958 beautiful Morgan for auction]
Message-ID: <4CC8D0E8.9020908@sonic.net>

Just got this in the mail if anyone is interested. Hey Gerry, you could 
do another Colorado trip ;-0

Ron
58 MGA

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	1958 beautiful Morgan for auction
Date: 	Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:13:24 -0600
From: 	Christine Dickensheet <christine at dickensheet.com>
To: 	<nobbc at sonic.net>



Hello!  On Saturday, November 6th, 2010 at 11:00AM in Denver, CO, we
will be auctioning a beautiful 1958 Morgan on behalf of the US
Bankruptcy Court and wanted to see if you offer any assistance for
marketing to find a great home for this vehicle.  Thanks!  Christine
Dickensheet 303-934-8322 www.Dickensheet.com <http://www.Dickensheet.com>

From hawkview at sonic.net  Wed Oct 27 20:43:08 2010
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 19:43:08 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 1958 beautiful Morgan for auction]
In-Reply-To: <4CC8D0E8.9020908@sonic.net>
References: <4CC8D0E8.9020908@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <71230FF0EFAD4E1487A9DE2259ADC9C3@williamsonPC>

Any idea what this might be worth?
Am I looking in the correct place?  Seems there is only a photo and no 
description or details.
Thanks Ron,
Clif 74 JH

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:24 PM
To: <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 1958 beautiful Morgan for auction]

> Just got this in the mail if anyone is interested. Hey Gerry, you could do 
> another Colorado trip ;-0
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 1958 beautiful Morgan for auction
> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:13:24 -0600
> From: Christine Dickensheet <christine at dickensheet.com>
> To: <nobbc at sonic.net>
>
>
>
> Hello!  On Saturday, November 6th, 2010 at 11:00AM in Denver, CO, we
> will be auctioning a beautiful 1958 Morgan on behalf of the US
> Bankruptcy Court and wanted to see if you offer any assistance for
> marketing to find a great home for this vehicle.  Thanks!  Christine
> Dickensheet 303-934-8322 www.Dickensheet.com <http://www.Dickensheet.com>
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Wed Oct 27 20:56:12 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 19:56:12 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 1958 beautiful Morgan for auction]
In-Reply-To: <71230FF0EFAD4E1487A9DE2259ADC9C3@williamsonPC>
References: <4CC8D0E8.9020908@sonic.net>
	<71230FF0EFAD4E1487A9DE2259ADC9C3@williamsonPC>
Message-ID: <4CC8E64C.2060502@sonic.net>

I have no idea. I guess you could call the listed number for 
details...didn't seem to be any on the website.

Ron
58 MGA

Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:

> Any idea what this might be worth?
> Am I looking in the correct place?  Seems there is only a photo and no 
> description or details.
> Thanks Ron,
> Clif 74 JH

From desmo93 at att.net  Wed Oct 27 21:58:01 2010
From: desmo93 at att.net (Marcus Margand)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 20:58:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 1958 beautiful Morgan for auction]
In-Reply-To: <4CC8E64C.2060502@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <71500.94627.qm@web83708.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Not sure if this will work
 
http://www.dickensheet.com/auctions/images/72/1
 
Marcus

--- On Wed, 10/27/10, Ron Engelhardt <nobbc at sonic.net> wrote:


From: Ron Engelhardt <nobbc at sonic.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 1958 beautiful Morgan for auction]
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 7:56 PM


I have no idea. I guess you could call the listed number for details...didn't
seem to be any on the website.

Ron
58 MGA

Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:

> Any idea what this might be worth?
> Am I looking in the correct place?  Seems there is only a photo and no
description or details.
> Thanks Ron,
> Clif 74 JH
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From liamof at earthlink.net  Wed Oct 27 22:06:09 2010
From: liamof at earthlink.net (Liam O'Flaherty)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 21:06:09 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGB overdrive trans in sacto
In-Reply-To: <4CC8E64C.2060502@sonic.net>
References: <4CC8D0E8.9020908@sonic.net>
	<71230FF0EFAD4E1487A9DE2259ADC9C3@williamsonPC>
	<4CC8E64C.2060502@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <068AECBD-A955-48A1-964C-06F79FDBE261@earthlink.net>

Hey guys,

I was surfing and found what seems to be a real deal in the sacto craigslist
for a MGB Overdrive transmission with cross member and shorter driveshaft for
$250

Looks like the later type (5 main )transmission so I can't use it, but I am
sure someone in the club can.
no financial interest just passing it along.

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/2029281423.html

Happy trails,

Liam


On Oct 27, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote:

> I have no idea. I guess you could call the listed number for
details...didn't seem to be any on the website.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>
>> Any idea what this might be worth?
>> Am I looking in the correct place?  Seems there is only a photo and no
description or details.
>> Thanks Ron,
>> Clif 74 JH
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From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct 28 19:20:25 2010
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 18:20:25 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGB overdrive trans in sacto
In-Reply-To: <068AECBD-A955-48A1-964C-06F79FDBE261@earthlink.net>
References: <4CC8D0E8.9020908@sonic.net><71230FF0EFAD4E1487A9DE2259ADC9C3@williamsonPC><4CC8E64C.2060502@sonic.net>
	<068AECBD-A955-48A1-964C-06F79FDBE261@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <619FAEE367244950ABDBBD4BCFEE7DF3@MARLA>

That definitely is below the normal price which is around $700 for a working
O/D tranny.  The seller must know something because if he's an eBay "best
seller" he knows what its worth.  From the photo it's hard to see the O/D
portion of the gearbox, but I'm doubting his word.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Liam O'Flaherty
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 9:06 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] MGB overdrive trans in sacto

Hey guys,

I was surfing and found what seems to be a real deal in the sacto craigslist
for a MGB Overdrive transmission with cross member and shorter driveshaft
for
$250

Looks like the later type (5 main )transmission so I can't use it, but I am
sure someone in the club can.
no financial interest just passing it along.

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/2029281423.html

Happy trails,

Liam


On Oct 27, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote:

> I have no idea. I guess you could call the listed number for
details...didn't seem to be any on the website.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>
>> Any idea what this might be worth?
>> Am I looking in the correct place?  Seems there is only a photo and no
description or details.
>> Thanks Ron,
>> Clif 74 JH
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From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct 28 19:40:50 2010
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 18:40:50 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGB overdrive trans in sacto
In-Reply-To: <619FAEE367244950ABDBBD4BCFEE7DF3@MARLA>
References: <4CC8D0E8.9020908@sonic.net><71230FF0EFAD4E1487A9DE2259ADC9C3@williamsonPC><4CC8E64C.2060502@sonic.net><068AECBD-A955-48A1-964C-06F79FDBE261@earthlink.net>
	<619FAEE367244950ABDBBD4BCFEE7DF3@MARLA>
Message-ID: <F1D9B7E6E5D2457BB6ECC4CFC7F68B7C@MARLA>

I meant to say "I'm not doubting his word".  Anyone with a late model B
should be interested.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of andy preston
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:20 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGB overdrive trans in sacto

That definitely is below the normal price which is around $700 for a working
O/D tranny.  The seller must know something because if he's an eBay "best
seller" he knows what its worth.  From the photo it's hard to see the O/D
portion of the gearbox, but I'm doubting his word.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Liam O'Flaherty
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 9:06 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] MGB overdrive trans in sacto

Hey guys,

I was surfing and found what seems to be a real deal in the sacto craigslist
for a MGB Overdrive transmission with cross member and shorter driveshaft
for
$250

Looks like the later type (5 main )transmission so I can't use it, but I am
sure someone in the club can.
no financial interest just passing it along.

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/2029281423.html

Happy trails,

Liam


On Oct 27, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote:

> I have no idea. I guess you could call the listed number for
details...didn't seem to be any on the website.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>
>> Any idea what this might be worth?
>> Am I looking in the correct place?  Seems there is only a photo and no
description or details.
>> Thanks Ron,
>> Clif 74 JH
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From morrisf at SIDWater.org  Thu Oct 28 19:46:47 2010
From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 18:46:47 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGB overdrive trans in sacto
In-Reply-To: <619FAEE367244950ABDBBD4BCFEE7DF3@MARLA>
Message-ID: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B00F@echo01.SID.LOCAL>

Ouch, I just unloaded an engine and OD tranny for $400. Oh well. I gave a
blown block and std tranny to just get them out of my yard.

----- Original Message -----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net <nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net>
To: 'North Bay British Car Club' <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu Oct 28 18:20:25 2010
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGB overdrive trans in sacto

That definitely is below the normal price which is around $700 for a working
O/D tranny.  The seller must know something because if he's an eBay "best
seller" he knows what its worth.  From the photo it's hard to see the O/D
portion of the gearbox, but I'm doubting his word.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Liam O'Flaherty
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 9:06 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] MGB overdrive trans in sacto

Hey guys,

I was surfing and found what seems to be a real deal in the sacto craigslist
for a MGB Overdrive transmission with cross member and shorter driveshaft
for
$250

Looks like the later type (5 main )transmission so I can't use it, but I am
sure someone in the club can.
no financial interest just passing it along.

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/2029281423.html

Happy trails,

Liam


On Oct 27, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote:

> I have no idea. I guess you could call the listed number for
details...didn't seem to be any on the website.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>
>> Any idea what this might be worth?
>> Am I looking in the correct place?  Seems there is only a photo and no
description or details.
>> Thanks Ron,
>> Clif 74 JH
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From liamof at earthlink.net  Thu Oct 28 20:34:22 2010
From: liamof at earthlink.net (Liam O'Flaherty)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 19:34:22 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] MGB overdrive trans in sacto
In-Reply-To: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B00F@echo01.SID.LOCAL>
References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B00F@echo01.SID.LOCAL>
Message-ID: <8597C1F5-255C-4458-9D04-5CF41DD321A0@earthlink.net>

I agree $250 seems really low but it would be worth a road trip to take a look
see.
Liam
On Oct 28, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Frank Morris wrote:

> Ouch, I just unloaded an engine and OD tranny for $400. Oh well. I gave a
> blown block and std tranny to just get them out of my yard.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net <nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net>
> To: 'North Bay British Car Club' <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thu Oct 28 18:20:25 2010
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MGB overdrive trans in sacto
>
> That definitely is below the normal price which is around $700 for a
working
> O/D tranny.  The seller must know something because if he's an eBay "best
> seller" he knows what its worth.  From the photo it's hard to see the O/D
> portion of the gearbox, but I'm doubting his word.
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Liam O'Flaherty
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 9:06 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: [Nobbc] MGB overdrive trans in sacto
>
> Hey guys,
>
> I was surfing and found what seems to be a real deal in the sacto
craigslist
> for a MGB Overdrive transmission with cross member and shorter driveshaft
> for
> $250
>
> Looks like the later type (5 main )transmission so I can't use it, but I am
> sure someone in the club can.
> no financial interest just passing it along.
>
> http://sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/2029281423.html
>
> Happy trails,
>
> Liam
>
>
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote:
>
>> I have no idea. I guess you could call the listed number for
> details...didn't seem to be any on the website.
>>
>> Ron
>> 58 MGA
>>
>> Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>>
>>> Any idea what this might be worth?
>>> Am I looking in the correct place?  Seems there is only a photo and no
> description or details.
>>> Thanks Ron,
>>> Clif 74 JH
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From rlmossholder at comcast.net  Fri Oct 29 11:36:00 2010
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 17:36:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] MGB overdrive trans in sacto
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$250 for an OD unit is at least good for the core charge. I bought a rebuilt transmission with a J type OD for my spitfire for $325. Normally this would be at least $800. The deals are out there. When I got it home I opened it up and checked all of the wear items and they were all new. I think I got lucky. 
Cheers, 
Rich