From techyes at pacbell.net  Tue Nov  2 14:46:45 2010
From: techyes at pacbell.net (Sheryl)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 14:46:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] 1966 Lotus Elan S3 Coupe
Message-ID: <789635.56960.qm@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I just found this, posted yesterday... 

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/11/01/bat-exclusive-1966-lotus-elan-fhc/

Sheryl
76 MGB x2

From gtwincams at gmail.com  Tue Nov  2 15:20:55 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:20:55 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] 1966 Lotus Elan S3 Coupe
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  Yes, it's a beauty, Sheryl, even though it's a slightly older 
restoration. Very pricey for a coupe, even though those prices have been 
climbing, but also the modifications to the dashboard and some other 
deviations from originality make this pretty optimistic money. Peter 
Egan's car recently sold for $38,200, but that is because it was his 
car, in addition to having been recently restored, and of course being a 
very early car. With this one, it will all be down to how well the 
rebuild on the mechanicals was done, and how good the restoration looks 
up close.
Thinking of stepping up from the "B"?
Cheers,
Greg




On 11/2/2010 2:46 PM, Sheryl wrote:
> I just found this, posted yesterday...
>
> http://bringatrailer.com/2010/11/01/bat-exclusive-1966-lotus-elan-fhc/
>
> Sheryl
> 76 MGB x2
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Tue Nov  2 15:39:56 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:39:56 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
Message-ID: <4CD0933C.4030704@sonic.net>

The string of rainy weekends we've been having looks to have broken so 
it's time for Nobbc to ride again. Anyone up for a ride this Saturday? 
Usual time and place or does anyone have an alternate suggestion?

Ron
58 MGA

From techyes at pacbell.net  Tue Nov  2 16:00:48 2010
From: techyes at pacbell.net (Sheryl)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:00:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] 1966 Lotus Elan S3 Coupe
In-Reply-To: <4CD08EC7.40206@gmail.com>
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	<4CD08EC7.40206@gmail.com>
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I might be crazy, but if I had that kind of cash, I would do the restoration on 
my B's. Very nice car though. Someone in the club keeps mentioning wanting an 
Elan Coupe. Good eye on the details of the restoration.
Sheryl




________________________________
From: Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 3:20:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] 1966 Lotus Elan S3 Coupe

Yes, it's a beauty, Sheryl, even though it's a slightly older restoration. Very 
pricey for a coupe, even though those prices have been climbing, but also the 
modifications to the dashboard and some other deviations from originality make 
this pretty optimistic money. Peter Egan's car recently sold for $38,200, but 
that is because it was his car, in addition to having been recently restored, 
and of course being a very early car. With this one, it will all be down to how 
well the rebuild on the mechanicals was done, and how good the restoration looks 
up close.
Thinking of stepping up from the "B"?
Cheers,
Greg




On 11/2/2010 2:46 PM, Sheryl wrote:
> I just found this, posted yesterday...
> 
> http://bringatrailer.com/2010/11/01/bat-exclusive-1966-lotus-elan-fhc/
> 
> Sheryl
> 76 MGB x2
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From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov  2 16:06:00 2010
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:06:00 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] 1966 Lotus Elan S3 Coupe
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	<4CD08EC7.40206@gmail.com>
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This car looks truly stunning in the photos and I'm sure it cost more than
the asking price to restore to that standard.  I don't know much about Lotus
but have always loved them and the ilans especially.  It looks like the twin
to Sarto's coupe so I'd love to get his feedback on it.  I don't think it
will last long at the asking price.  Maybe time to change the breed.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 3:21 PM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] 1966 Lotus Elan S3 Coupe

  Yes, it's a beauty, Sheryl, even though it's a slightly older
restoration. Very pricey for a coupe, even though those prices have been
climbing, but also the modifications to the dashboard and some other
deviations from originality make this pretty optimistic money. Peter
Egan's car recently sold for $38,200, but that is because it was his
car, in addition to having been recently restored, and of course being a
very early car. With this one, it will all be down to how well the
rebuild on the mechanicals was done, and how good the restoration looks
up close.
Thinking of stepping up from the "B"?
Cheers,
Greg




On 11/2/2010 2:46 PM, Sheryl wrote:
> I just found this, posted yesterday...
>
> http://bringatrailer.com/2010/11/01/bat-exclusive-1966-lotus-elan-fhc/
>
> Sheryl
> 76 MGB x2
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From dawsonchurch at gmail.com  Tue Nov  2 16:06:45 2010
From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:06:45 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
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Hi Ron,

I'm teaching a pain clinic at Palm Drive hospital Saturday at 1:30,
till 4 pm, so Saturday's tricky for me. Though if you have any friends
in pain, tell them to show up at the hospital!

But if you ride on Sunday, I'll be there.

Dawson



On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Ron Engelhardt <nobbc at sonic.net> wrote:
> The string of rainy weekends we've been having looks to have broken so it's
> time for Nobbc to ride again. Anyone up for a ride this Saturday? Usual
time
> and place or does anyone have an alternate suggestion?
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Tue Nov  2 17:25:15 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 17:25:15 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] 1966 Lotus Elan S3 Coupe
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References: <789635.56960.qm@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<4CD08EC7.40206@gmail.com> <44B36D80DA61488586044D4F86F5CB82@MARLA>
Message-ID: <4CD0ABEB.1050902@gmail.com>

  On 11/2/2010 4:06 PM, andy preston wrote:
> This car looks truly stunning in the photos and I'm sure it cost more than
> the asking price to restore to that standard.

Yes, that's usually the way. Particularly in the last several years with 
Lotuses, because there are fewer qualified Twin Cam engine rebuilders (a 
good rebuild costs $8-10k), and fiberglass and paint can easily top 
$10-15k. Just 4-5 years ago it would not have bee unheard of for a coupe 
of this caliber to sell for $15k, but enough coupes have had their tops 
removed to become DHC cars to help bring up their value. I think it's a 
terrible shame to chop up a coupe, as they didn't make that many of 
them, and the lines are among the very best in my view.
>   I don't know much about Lotus
> but have always loved them and the ilans especially.  It looks like the twin
> to Sarto's coupe so I'd love to get his feedback on it.
Sarto's Elan S3 coupe is really beautiful, and is arguably more 
authentic in some very minor details compared to this car, which has a 
deleted heater valve, added gauges in the dash, Del'lortos instead of 
Webers (typical overseas, but not here), altered fuse box (not a bad 
thing!). The finish in the wheel wells is excellent - someone spent some 
time in there, for sure. Love the look of the riveted steel wheels, 
however one must be careful of 40 year old rivets. It's sitting a tiny 
bit low, which looks really sexy but one must be cautious about 
grounding, but that can be easily adjusted as I see it's got adjustable 
spring perches. It's also got the airflow vents behind the door opening, 
which were not on earlier coupes.
>    I don't think it
> will last long at the asking price.  Maybe time to change the breed.
No need to change - just add one more to the stable. It can make driving 
a slower, less precise handling car less enticing, so be ready to let 
your other cars sit idle a bit more if you buy the Elan. Also, be 
prepared for some parts being 2-3x the cost of those for MGs and 
Triumphs, which were made in vast numbers compared to Elans, and have a 
much smaller supplier chain. Also, make sure you fit, first - the coupe 
doesn't have lots of headroom, though the legroom is great. Nice having 
a top, though!

I've been looking for an S3 Coupe for a few years, but this one's priced 
a little to strong for me, considering the restoration finish date of 
2000, and lack of CV axle upgrade - not that I'm saying it isn't quite 
pretty and very nicely restored!
> Andy
>
> -
Greg Tatarian
1971 Lotus Elan S4 DHC

From sarto477 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  2 17:38:03 2010
From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 17:38:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] 1966 Lotus Elan S3 Coupe
In-Reply-To: <44B36D80DA61488586044D4F86F5CB82@MARLA>
Message-ID: <453246.95168.qm@web113520.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

You can't beat a Lotus Elan Coupe in British Racing Green with a Yellow
stripe.  $29,000 does not even come close to the actual restoration cost.
 Best buys in town are a fully restored Elan.  A wise man once told me, buy a
restored Elan as the seller will never get back what it cost.  Unfortunately,
I was told that much too late.
Sarto

--- On Tue, 11/2/10, andy preston <andypreston at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: andy preston <andypreston at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] 1966 Lotus Elan S3 Coupe
To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 4:06 PM

This car looks truly stunning in the photos and I'm sure it cost more than
the asking price to restore to that standard.  I don't know much about Lotus
but have always loved them and the ilans especially.  It looks like the twin
to Sarto's coupe so I'd love to get his feedback on it.  I don't think it
will last long at the asking price.  Maybe time to change the breed.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 3:21 PM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] 1966 Lotus Elan S3 Coupe

  Yes, it's a beauty, Sheryl, even though it's a slightly older
restoration. Very pricey for a coupe, even though those prices have been
climbing, but also the modifications to the dashboard and some other
deviations from originality make this pretty optimistic money. Peter
Egan's car recently sold for $38,200, but that is because it was his
car, in addition to having been recently restored, and of course being a
very early car. With this one, it will all be down to how well the
rebuild on the mechanicals was done, and how good the restoration looks
up close.
Thinking of stepping up from the "B"?
Cheers,
Greg




On 11/2/2010 2:46 PM, Sheryl wrote:
> I just found this, posted yesterday...
>
> http://bringatrailer.com/2010/11/01/bat-exclusive-1966-lotus-elan-fhc/
>
> Sheryl
> 76 MGB x2
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Tue Nov  2 19:45:43 2010
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 19:45:43 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] lets ride and lotus'
In-Reply-To: <4CD0933C.4030704@sonic.net>
References: <4CD0933C.4030704@sonic.net>
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I'm out of town this weekend so I vote for the following one.

It's I who keeps mentioning wanting to find an Elan Coupe.

It's I who also does not have $29k for one now. Aren't
we still in a recession?

It's also I who is well acquainted with the cost
of working on Elans.

And it's also I who agrees with Sarto and next time I'll buy
one already restored by someone else and save a fortune! 

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806 2457 C
510 231 6805 F





-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 3:40 PM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!

The string of rainy weekends we've been having looks to have broken so 
it's time for Nobbc to ride again. Anyone up for a ride this Saturday? 
Usual time and place or does anyone have an alternate suggestion?

Ron
58 MGA
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From dodea495 at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  2 23:28:56 2010
From: dodea495 at hotmail.com (Dennis O'Dea)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 23:28:56 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
In-Reply-To: <4CD0933C.4030704@sonic.net>
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This Saturday sounds good for a drive.  I think it might be the only Saturday
this month that we are not committed to something.

Dennis & Sheryl,
76MGB  Yellow
76MGB  Green

> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 15:39:56 -0700
> From: nobbc at sonic.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
>
> The string of rainy weekends we've been having looks to have broken so
> it's time for Nobbc to ride again. Anyone up for a ride this Saturday?
> Usual time and place or does anyone have an alternate suggestion?
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
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From mvg1 at att.net  Wed Nov  3 07:36:19 2010
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 07:36:19 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
References: <4CD0933C.4030704@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <E474DB00936C4CABAE699412CFE5D851@mike>

I haven't been out in quite some time, so a nice ride sounds good to me. 
I'll try to be there.

Michael
64 TR4

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
To: <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 3:39 PM
Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!


> The string of rainy weekends we've been having looks to have broken so 
> it's time for Nobbc to ride again. Anyone up for a ride this Saturday? 
> Usual time and place or does anyone have an alternate suggestion?
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
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From markdarley at mac.com  Wed Nov  3 09:01:08 2010
From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 09:01:08 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
In-Reply-To: <SNT137-w4801FED973A8A40D58E7AA9C4A0@phx.gbl>
References: <4CD0933C.4030704@sonic.net>
	<SNT137-w4801FED973A8A40D58E7AA9C4A0@phx.gbl>
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This is the last weekend before Fall Forward time change on Sunday.    
Sundown will be at 5pm the following weekend.  Afternoon driving is  
producing beautiful light at this time of the year.

How about visiting a winery up in your neighborhood, with a slightly  
later start?  "Mahitabel" prefers to avoid freeways on a Saturday  
morning.  Maybe a rendezvous at the bakery in Freestone followed by  
some lesser known back country roads.

I would be stopping in Marshall for oysters on the way home, so that  
could be included if the group wanted to go that way.

Cheers,

Mark
57 MGA

Mark Darley
markdarley at mac.com
415 381 5452



On Nov 2, 2010, at 11:28 PM, Dennis O'Dea wrote:

> This Saturday sounds good for a drive.  I think it might be the only  
> Saturday
> this month that we are not committed to something.
>
> Dennis & Sheryl,
> 76MGB  Yellow
> 76MGB  Green
>
>> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 15:39:56 -0700
>> From: nobbc at sonic.net
>> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
>>
>> The string of rainy weekends we've been having looks to have broken  
>> so
>> it's time for Nobbc to ride again. Anyone up for a ride this  
>> Saturday?
>> Usual time and place or does anyone have an alternate suggestion?
>>
>> Ron
>> 58 MGA
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Wed Nov  3 09:41:37 2010
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 09:41:37 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
In-Reply-To: <E474DB00936C4CABAE699412CFE5D851@mike>
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	<E474DB00936C4CABAE699412CFE5D851@mike>
Message-ID: <5C0440A2333B479BBFB9F7B6B0BB10B2@williamsonPC>

Me too.

Hey, did anybody catch the latest and last of the season showing of Top 
Gear?  Pretty interesting stuff.  The guys choose cars that represented 
their generation .  These are all British cars of course that had been 
replace by hatchbacks like the GTI and supposedly caused the demise of the 
British Sports car.  May chose a TVR S2...sweet.  Richard a Lotus Elan/Isuzu 
(guess we don't want to go there).  And Jeremy a really sweet Jensen 
Healey/Lotus (don't want to go there either).  They competed against the 
Stig in hatchbacks and it was pretty darn funny.  Catch it on BBS.

Yep count us in on the ride.  Need to get away from the house remodel for a 
bit of R&R.


Clif and Deborah  74 JH.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Mike Gianandrea" <mvg1 at att.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 7:36 AM
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Let's ride!

> I haven't been out in quite some time, so a nice ride sounds good to me. 
> I'll try to be there.
>
> Michael
> 64 TR4
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
> To: <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 3:39 PM
> Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
>
>
>> The string of rainy weekends we've been having looks to have broken so 
>> it's time for Nobbc to ride again. Anyone up for a ride this Saturday? 
>> Usual time and place or does anyone have an alternate suggestion?
>>
>> Ron
>> 58 MGA
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From mvg1 at att.net  Thu Nov  4 07:40:08 2010
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 07:40:08 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
Message-ID: <E22338A08D91487A9005AD83F4DDA949@mike>

This is way too cool, check it out.

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/11/morgan-brings-back-the-threewheeler/

Michael
64 TR4

From morrisf at SIDWater.org  Thu Nov  4 08:28:44 2010
From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 08:28:44 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
In-Reply-To: <E22338A08D91487A9005AD83F4DDA949@mike>
References: <E22338A08D91487A9005AD83F4DDA949@mike>
Message-ID: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B06F@echo01.SID.LOCAL>

Based on the views provided, it doesn't look like they have changed much
in the basic construction from the old 3 wheelers.  I wonder what they
are using for the power plant...not JAP, I assume. I am surprised
somebody in our NOBBC doesn't have one, new or old.  We always see a
good turnout of the vintage trikes at the Pleasanton Scottish Games each
September.  Mike, are you going to be the first on your block to get one
of these new ones?  Jolly Good!  I like the reference to Keith Richards
of the Rolling Stones...I guess that's us, still crazy after all these
years.

Frank Morris
Morris Garage


-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 7:40 AM
To: nobbc
Subject: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER

This is way too cool, check it out.

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/11/morgan-brings-back-the-threewheeler
/

Michael
64 TR4
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From mvg1 at att.net  Thu Nov  4 09:34:56 2010
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 09:34:56 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
References: <E22338A08D91487A9005AD83F4DDA949@mike>
	<188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B06F@echo01.SID.LOCAL>
Message-ID: <F988DD572A644550AE284D1E4F690BDC@mike>

The new trike will have a Harley Davidson power plant, and a Japanese 5 
speed, and updated suspension, other than that, Morgan has not changed the 
design much at all. I would buy one tomorrow, but I would have to paint 
about 75 cars to do so. FLAT.  broke right now. By the way, did you not say 
that you had mentioned my painting services to a friend of yours that wanted 
a car painted? I could use the recommendation and the work. Are you going to 
go on the club ride Saturday?

MVG

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Morris" <morrisf at SIDWater.org>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER


> Based on the views provided, it doesn't look like they have changed much
> in the basic construction from the old 3 wheelers.  I wonder what they
> are using for the power plant...not JAP, I assume. I am surprised
> somebody in our NOBBC doesn't have one, new or old.  We always see a
> good turnout of the vintage trikes at the Pleasanton Scottish Games each
> September.  Mike, are you going to be the first on your block to get one
> of these new ones?  Jolly Good!  I like the reference to Keith Richards
> of the Rolling Stones...I guess that's us, still crazy after all these
> years.
>
> Frank Morris
> Morris Garage
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 7:40 AM
> To: nobbc
> Subject: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
>
> This is way too cool, check it out.
>
> http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/11/morgan-brings-back-the-threewheeler
> /
>
> Michael
> 64 TR4
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From morrisf at SIDWater.org  Thu Nov  4 10:32:59 2010
From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 10:32:59 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
In-Reply-To: <F988DD572A644550AE284D1E4F690BDC@mike>
References: <E22338A08D91487A9005AD83F4DDA949@mike><188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B06F@echo01.SID.LOCAL>
	<F988DD572A644550AE284D1E4F690BDC@mike>
Message-ID: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B075@echo01.SID.LOCAL>

Hi Mike:  I am having "issues" with some significant damage to our
family home in San Carlos following a long term renter move out.  Like
you, I got to get it back on the market to get money coming back in.  My
sister and I depend on it.

I am still trying to figure out how to get over to Petaluma to pick up
the car.  Saturdays are booked all this month until I get this thing
rented again.

Yes, I had recommended you to a couple of people...I forget who
specifically, people in the NOBBC and MGOC.  There was the MGOC drive
that Andy Preston led.  Andy was one that I mentioned you to but there
was someone else.  It sounded like he was possibly going to attempt it
himself.  I think we need to get her out on the street for people to
see.  Are you sure you want to tackle another so soon?  I need to get
the additional trunk/boot lid too.  How did the "pucker" removal go with
the front facia and door ding?

Just thinking...How about an offer to round off everything for $1100 if
you could bring her over with your wife following in the Suburban?  My
appointment for tonight just cancelled out so maybe we can work
something this evening?

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:35 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER

The new trike will have a Harley Davidson power plant, and a Japanese 5
speed, and updated suspension, other than that, Morgan has not changed
the
design much at all. I would buy one tomorrow, but I would have to paint
about 75 cars to do so. FLAT.  broke right now. By the way, did you not
say
that you had mentioned my painting services to a friend of yours that
wanted
a car painted? I could use the recommendation and the work. Are you
going to
go on the club ride Saturday?

MVG

----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Morris" <morrisf at SIDWater.org>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER


> Based on the views provided, it doesn't look like they have changed
much
> in the basic construction from the old 3 wheelers.  I wonder what they
> are using for the power plant...not JAP, I assume. I am surprised
> somebody in our NOBBC doesn't have one, new or old.  We always see a
> good turnout of the vintage trikes at the Pleasanton Scottish Games
each
> September.  Mike, are you going to be the first on your block to get
one
> of these new ones?  Jolly Good!  I like the reference to Keith
Richards
> of the Rolling Stones...I guess that's us, still crazy after all these
> years.
>
> Frank Morris
> Morris Garage
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 7:40 AM
> To: nobbc
> Subject: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
>
> This is way too cool, check it out.
>
>
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/11/morgan-brings-back-the-threewheeler
> /
>
> Michael
> 64 TR4
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From MAEMLY at aol.com  Thu Nov  4 13:25:50 2010
From: MAEMLY at aol.com (MAEMLY at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 16:25:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
Message-ID: <56745.7303dfa7.3a0470ce@aol.com>

To all....................... Just got the Midget through smog.  Thanks to 
all on different pieces of advice. Thought we might be able to go on  our 
first ride since meeting some of you at the Vintage Race at Infinieon. But  of 
course don't know where the meeting place is or if in fact the ride is set. 
 Info please.............Amy & Mel 1979 Midget.............P. S. I'll try 
and  keep up.
 
 
In a message dated 11/3/2010 9:21:03 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
markdarley at mac.com writes:

This is  the last weekend before Fall Forward time change on Sunday.     
Sundown will be at 5pm the following weekend.  Afternoon driving  is  
producing beautiful light at this time of the year.

How  about visiting a winery up in your neighborhood, with a slightly   
later start?  "Mahitabel" prefers to avoid freeways on a  Saturday  
morning.  Maybe a rendezvous at the bakery in  Freestone followed by  
some lesser known back country roads.

I  would be stopping in Marshall for oysters on the way home, so that   
could be included if the group wanted to go that  way.

Cheers,

Mark
57 MGA

Mark  Darley
markdarley at mac.com
415 381 5452



On Nov 2, 2010, at  11:28 PM, Dennis O'Dea wrote:

> This Saturday sounds good for a  drive.  I think it might be the only  
> Saturday
> this  month that we are not committed to something.
>
> Dennis &  Sheryl,
> 76MGB  Yellow
> 76MGB   Green
>
>> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 15:39:56 -0700
>>  From: nobbc at sonic.net
>> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
>>  Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
>>
>> The string of rainy  weekends we've been having looks to have broken  
>>  so
>> it's time for Nobbc to ride again. Anyone up for a ride  this  
>> Saturday?
>> Usual time and place or does  anyone have an alternate suggestion?
>>
>> Ron
>>  58 MGA
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From mvg1 at att.net  Thu Nov  4 14:57:50 2010
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:57:50 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
References: <E22338A08D91487A9005AD83F4DDA949@mike><188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B06F@echo01.SID.LOCAL><F988DD572A644550AE284D1E4F690BDC@mike>
	<188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B075@echo01.SID.LOCAL>
Message-ID: <F47231D4C07740D2AD615CE175585A59@mike>

Hi Frank,

I have a buddy that will help me tonight at 6:30, so send me an address and 
directions.

MV G

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Morris" <morrisf at SIDWater.org>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER


> Hi Mike:  I am having "issues" with some significant damage to our
> family home in San Carlos following a long term renter move out.  Like
> you, I got to get it back on the market to get money coming back in.  My
> sister and I depend on it.
>
> I am still trying to figure out how to get over to Petaluma to pick up
> the car.  Saturdays are booked all this month until I get this thing
> rented again.
>
> Yes, I had recommended you to a couple of people...I forget who
> specifically, people in the NOBBC and MGOC.  There was the MGOC drive
> that Andy Preston led.  Andy was one that I mentioned you to but there
> was someone else.  It sounded like he was possibly going to attempt it
> himself.  I think we need to get her out on the street for people to
> see.  Are you sure you want to tackle another so soon?  I need to get
> the additional trunk/boot lid too.  How did the "pucker" removal go with
> the front facia and door ding?
>
> Just thinking...How about an offer to round off everything for $1100 if
> you could bring her over with your wife following in the Suburban?  My
> appointment for tonight just cancelled out so maybe we can work
> something this evening?
>
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:35 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
>
> The new trike will have a Harley Davidson power plant, and a Japanese 5
> speed, and updated suspension, other than that, Morgan has not changed
> the
> design much at all. I would buy one tomorrow, but I would have to paint
> about 75 cars to do so. FLAT.  broke right now. By the way, did you not
> say
> that you had mentioned my painting services to a friend of yours that
> wanted
> a car painted? I could use the recommendation and the work. Are you
> going to
> go on the club ride Saturday?
>
> MVG
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank Morris" <morrisf at SIDWater.org>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 8:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
>
>
>> Based on the views provided, it doesn't look like they have changed
> much
>> in the basic construction from the old 3 wheelers.  I wonder what they
>> are using for the power plant...not JAP, I assume. I am surprised
>> somebody in our NOBBC doesn't have one, new or old.  We always see a
>> good turnout of the vintage trikes at the Pleasanton Scottish Games
> each
>> September.  Mike, are you going to be the first on your block to get
> one
>> of these new ones?  Jolly Good!  I like the reference to Keith
> Richards
>> of the Rolling Stones...I guess that's us, still crazy after all these
>> years.
>>
>> Frank Morris
>> Morris Garage
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
>> On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea
>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 7:40 AM
>> To: nobbc
>> Subject: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
>>
>> This is way too cool, check it out.
>>
>>
> http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/11/morgan-brings-back-the-threewheeler
>> /
>>
>> Michael
>> 64 TR4
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From morrisf at SIDWater.org  Thu Nov  4 15:47:36 2010
From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 15:47:36 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
In-Reply-To: <F47231D4C07740D2AD615CE175585A59@mike>
References: <E22338A08D91487A9005AD83F4DDA949@mike><188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B06F@echo01.SID.LOCAL><F988DD572A644550AE284D1E4F690BDC@mike><188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B075@echo01.SID.LOCAL>
	<F47231D4C07740D2AD615CE175585A59@mike>
Message-ID: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B080@echo01.SID.LOCAL>

Check your regular email address.  Looking forward to seeing your great
paint job and handiwork! See you tonight.

Club members take note...Mike went above and beyond the call of duty on
my MGB.  Look for her in her new Damask Red coat!  Looking forward to
putting a wicker picnic basket on her new boot rack.

Frank M

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 2:58 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER

Hi Frank,

I have a buddy that will help me tonight at 6:30, so send me an address
and
directions.

MV G

----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Morris" <morrisf at SIDWater.org>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER


> Hi Mike:  I am having "issues" with some significant damage to our
> family home in San Carlos following a long term renter move out.  Like
> you, I got to get it back on the market to get money coming back in.
My
> sister and I depend on it.
>
> I am still trying to figure out how to get over to Petaluma to pick up
> the car.  Saturdays are booked all this month until I get this thing
> rented again.
>
> Yes, I had recommended you to a couple of people...I forget who
> specifically, people in the NOBBC and MGOC.  There was the MGOC drive
> that Andy Preston led.  Andy was one that I mentioned you to but there
> was someone else.  It sounded like he was possibly going to attempt it
> himself.  I think we need to get her out on the street for people to
> see.  Are you sure you want to tackle another so soon?  I need to get
> the additional trunk/boot lid too.  How did the "pucker" removal go
with
> the front facia and door ding?
>
> Just thinking...How about an offer to round off everything for $1100
if
> you could bring her over with your wife following in the Suburban?  My
> appointment for tonight just cancelled out so maybe we can work
> something this evening?
>
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:35 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
>
> The new trike will have a Harley Davidson power plant, and a Japanese
5
> speed, and updated suspension, other than that, Morgan has not changed
> the
> design much at all. I would buy one tomorrow, but I would have to
paint
> about 75 cars to do so. FLAT.  broke right now. By the way, did you
not
> say
> that you had mentioned my painting services to a friend of yours that
> wanted
> a car painted? I could use the recommendation and the work. Are you
> going to
> go on the club ride Saturday?
>
> MVG
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank Morris" <morrisf at SIDWater.org>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 8:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
>
>
>> Based on the views provided, it doesn't look like they have changed
> much
>> in the basic construction from the old 3 wheelers.  I wonder what
they
>> are using for the power plant...not JAP, I assume. I am surprised
>> somebody in our NOBBC doesn't have one, new or old.  We always see a
>> good turnout of the vintage trikes at the Pleasanton Scottish Games
> each
>> September.  Mike, are you going to be the first on your block to get
> one
>> of these new ones?  Jolly Good!  I like the reference to Keith
> Richards
>> of the Rolling Stones...I guess that's us, still crazy after all
these
>> years.
>>
>> Frank Morris
>> Morris Garage
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
>> On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea
>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 7:40 AM
>> To: nobbc
>> Subject: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
>>
>> This is way too cool, check it out.
>>
>>
>
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/11/morgan-brings-back-the-threewheeler
>> /
>>
>> Michael
>> 64 TR4
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Thu Nov  4 18:59:52 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 18:59:52 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
In-Reply-To: <56745.7303dfa7.3a0470ce@aol.com>
References: <56745.7303dfa7.3a0470ce@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4CD36518.5010606@sonic.net>

We will meet at 10AM Saturday in back of Bad Ass Coffee on the corner of 
Mark West Springs and Old Redwood Hwy...our "usual" spot. The weather is 
  deteriorating again so if it is raining we will cancel (if it's just 
gloomy we'll ride!) and try for Sunday. If it rains both days, we'll 
reschedule and curse our bad weather luck this year.

Ron
58 MGA

MAEMLY at aol.com wrote:
> To all....................... Just got the Midget through smog.  Thanks to 
> all on different pieces of advice. Thought we might be able to go on  our 
> first ride since meeting some of you at the Vintage Race at Infinieon. But  of 
> course don't know where the meeting place is or if in fact the ride is set. 
>  Info please.............Amy & Mel 1979 Midget.............P. S. I'll try 
> and  keep up.
>  
>  
> In a message dated 11/3/2010 9:21:03 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
> markdarley at mac.com writes:
> 
> This is  the last weekend before Fall Forward time change on Sunday.     
> Sundown will be at 5pm the following weekend.  Afternoon driving  is  
> producing beautiful light at this time of the year.
> 
> How  about visiting a winery up in your neighborhood, with a slightly   
> later start?  "Mahitabel" prefers to avoid freeways on a  Saturday  
> morning.  Maybe a rendezvous at the bakery in  Freestone followed by  
> some lesser known back country roads.
> 
> I  would be stopping in Marshall for oysters on the way home, so that   
> could be included if the group wanted to go that  way.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Mark
> 57 MGA
> 
> Mark  Darley
> markdarley at mac.com
> 415 381 5452
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 2, 2010, at  11:28 PM, Dennis O'Dea wrote:
> 
> 
>>This Saturday sounds good for a  drive.  I think it might be the only  
>>Saturday
>>this  month that we are not committed to something.
>>
>>Dennis &  Sheryl,
>>76MGB  Yellow
>>76MGB   Green
>>
>>
>>>Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 15:39:56 -0700
>>> From: nobbc at sonic.net
>>>To: nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
>>>
>>>The string of rainy  weekends we've been having looks to have broken  
>>> so
>>>it's time for Nobbc to ride again. Anyone up for a ride  this  
>>>Saturday?
>>>Usual time and place or does  anyone have an alternate suggestion?
>>>
>>>Ron
>>> 58 MGA
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Thu Nov  4 19:04:27 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 19:04:27 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
In-Reply-To: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B06F@echo01.SID.LOCAL>
References: <E22338A08D91487A9005AD83F4DDA949@mike>
	<188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B06F@echo01.SID.LOCAL>
Message-ID: <4CD3662B.1080406@sonic.net>

Well no one in Nobbc has one yet to my knowledge but Tom Reier does have 
a 3 wheel Grinell Scorpion which he used to regularly bring on club 
rides (Where the HELL are you Tom). It's made in England and is powered 
by a BMW motorcycle engine, goes like a bat out of hell.

Ron
58 MGA

Frank Morris wrote:

> Based on the views provided, it doesn't look like they have changed much
> in the basic construction from the old 3 wheelers.  I wonder what they
> are using for the power plant...not JAP, I assume. I am surprised
> somebody in our NOBBC doesn't have one, new or old.  We always see a
> good turnout of the vintage trikes at the Pleasanton Scottish Games each
> September.  Mike, are you going to be the first on your block to get one
> of these new ones?  Jolly Good!  I like the reference to Keith Richards
> of the Rolling Stones...I guess that's us, still crazy after all these
> years.
> 
> Frank Morris
> Morris Garage

From MAEMLY at aol.com  Thu Nov  4 19:16:10 2010
From: MAEMLY at aol.com (MAEMLY at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 22:16:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
Message-ID: <95a89.414f1787.3a04c2ea@aol.com>

Thanks and hope to see all on Sat.........Amy &  Mel
 
 
In a message dated 11/4/2010 7:06:11 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
nobbc at sonic.net writes:

We will  meet at 10AM Saturday in back of Bad Ass Coffee on the corner of 
Mark West  Springs and Old Redwood Hwy...our "usual" spot. The weather is 
deteriorating again so if it is raining we will cancel (if it's just  
gloomy we'll ride!) and try for Sunday. If it rains both days, we'll  
reschedule and curse our bad weather luck this year.

Ron
58  MGA

MAEMLY at aol.com wrote:
> To all....................... Just  got the Midget through smog.  Thanks 
to 
> all on different pieces  of advice. Thought we might be able to go on  
our 
> first ride  since meeting some of you at the Vintage Race at Infinieon. 
But  of  
> course don't know where the meeting place is or if in fact the ride  is 
set. 
>  Info please.............Amy & Mel 1979  Midget.............P. S. I'll 
try 
> and  keep up.
>   
>  
> In a message dated 11/3/2010 9:21:03 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time,  
> markdarley at mac.com writes:
> 
> This  is  the last weekend before Fall Forward time change on Sunday.   
> Sundown will be at 5pm the following weekend.   Afternoon driving  is  
> producing beautiful light at this  time of the year.
> 
> How  about visiting a winery up in  your neighborhood, with a slightly   
> later start?   "Mahitabel" prefers to avoid freeways on a  Saturday  
>  morning.  Maybe a rendezvous at the bakery in  Freestone followed  by  
> some lesser known back country roads.
> 
>  I  would be stopping in Marshall for oysters on the way home, so  that   
> could be included if the group wanted to go  that  way.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Mark
> 57  MGA
> 
> Mark  Darley
> markdarley at mac.com
> 415  381 5452
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 2, 2010, at  11:28 PM,  Dennis O'Dea wrote:
> 
> 
>>This Saturday sounds good for  a  drive.  I think it might be the only   
>>Saturday
>>this  month that we are not committed to  something.
>>
>>Dennis &   Sheryl,
>>76MGB  Yellow
>>76MGB    Green
>>
>>
>>>Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 15:39:56  -0700
>>> From: nobbc at sonic.net
>>>To:  nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> Subject: [Nobbc] Let's  ride!
>>>
>>>The string of rainy  weekends we've  been having looks to have broken  
>>> so
>>>it's  time for Nobbc to ride again. Anyone up for a ride  this   
>>>Saturday?
>>>Usual time and place or does   anyone have an alternate  suggestion?
>>>
>>>Ron
>>> 58  MGA
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From sarto477 at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  4 19:44:18 2010
From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 19:44:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
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Message-ID: <225211.4696.qm@web113501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I'll be there if does not rain.Sarto
1966 Lotus Elan coupe
--- On Thu, 11/4/10, MAEMLY at aol.com <MAEMLY at aol.com> wrote:

From: MAEMLY at aol.com <MAEMLY at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Date: Thursday, November 4, 2010, 7:16 PM

Thanks and hope to see all on Sat.........Amy &  Mel


In a message dated 11/4/2010 7:06:11 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
nobbc at sonic.net writes:

We will  meet at 10AM Saturday in back of Bad Ass Coffee on the corner of
Mark West  Springs and Old Redwood Hwy...our "usual" spot. The weather is
deteriorating again so if it is raining we will cancel (if it's just 
gloomy we'll ride!) and try for Sunday. If it rains both days, we'll 
reschedule and curse our bad weather luck this year.

Ron
58  MGA

MAEMLY at aol.com wrote:
> To all....................... Just  got the Midget through smog.  Thanks
to
> all on different pieces  of advice. Thought we might be able to go on 
our
> first ride  since meeting some of you at the Vintage Race at Infinieon.
But  of 
> course don't know where the meeting place is or if in fact the ride  is
set.
>  Info please.............Amy & Mel 1979  Midget.............P. S. I'll
try
> and  keep up.
>   
> 
> In a message dated 11/3/2010 9:21:03 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
> markdarley at mac.com writes:
>
> This  is  the last weekend before Fall Forward time change on Sunday.   
> Sundown will be at 5pm the following weekend.   Afternoon driving  is 
> producing beautiful light at this  time of the year.
>
> How  about visiting a winery up in  your neighborhood, with a slightly   
> later start?   "Mahitabel" prefers to avoid freeways on a  Saturday 
>  morning.  Maybe a rendezvous at the bakery in  Freestone followed  by 
> some lesser known back country roads.
>
>  I  would be stopping in Marshall for oysters on the way home, so  that   
> could be included if the group wanted to go  that  way.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
> 57  MGA
>
> Mark  Darley
> markdarley at mac.com
> 415  381 5452
>
>
>
> On Nov 2, 2010, at  11:28 PM,  Dennis O'Dea wrote:
>
>
>>This Saturday sounds good for  a  drive.  I think it might be the only   
>>Saturday
>>this  month that we are not committed to  something.
>>
>>Dennis &   Sheryl,
>>76MGB  Yellow
>>76MGB    Green
>>
>>
>>>Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 15:39:56  -0700
>>> From: nobbc at sonic.net
>>>To:  nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> Subject: [Nobbc] Let's  ride!
>>>
>>>The string of rainy  weekends we've  been having looks to have broken 
>>> so
>>>it's  time for Nobbc to ride again. Anyone up for a ride  this   
>>>Saturday?
>>>Usual time and place or does   anyone have an alternate  suggestion?
>>>
>>>Ron
>>> 58  MGA
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From markdarley at mac.com  Thu Nov  4 21:23:59 2010
From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley)
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 21:23:59 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
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Any idea of your route after Bad Ass?


Mark
57 MGA

Mark Darley
markdarley at mac.com
415 381 5452



On Nov 4, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote:

> We will meet at 10AM Saturday in back of Bad Ass Coffee on the  
> corner of Mark West Springs and Old Redwood Hwy...our "usual" spot.  
> The weather is  deteriorating again so if it is raining we will  
> cancel (if it's just gloomy we'll ride!) and try for Sunday. If it  
> rains both days, we'll reschedule and curse our bad weather luck  
> this year.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> MAEMLY at aol.com wrote:
>> To all....................... Just got the Midget through smog.   
>> Thanks to all on different pieces of advice. Thought we might be  
>> able to go on  our first ride since meeting some of you at the  
>> Vintage Race at Infinieon. But  of course don't know where the  
>> meeting place is or if in fact the ride is set.  Info  
>> please.............Amy & Mel 1979 Midget.............P. S. I'll try  
>> and  keep up.
>>  In a message dated 11/3/2010 9:21:03 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  markdarley at mac.com 
>>  writes:
>> This is  the last weekend before Fall Forward time change on  
>> Sunday.     Sundown will be at 5pm the following weekend.   
>> Afternoon driving  is  producing beautiful light at this time of  
>> the year.
>> How  about visiting a winery up in your neighborhood, with a  
>> slightly   later start?  "Mahitabel" prefers to avoid freeways on  
>> a  Saturday  morning.  Maybe a rendezvous at the bakery in   
>> Freestone followed by  some lesser known back country roads.
>> I  would be stopping in Marshall for oysters on the way home, so  
>> that   could be included if the group wanted to go that  way.
>> Cheers,
>> Mark
>> 57 MGA
>> Mark  Darley
>> markdarley at mac.com
>> 415 381 5452
>> On Nov 2, 2010, at  11:28 PM, Dennis O'Dea wrote:
>>> This Saturday sounds good for a  drive.  I think it might be the  
>>> only  Saturday
>>> this  month that we are not committed to something.
>>>
>>> Dennis &  Sheryl,
>>> 76MGB  Yellow
>>> 76MGB   Green
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 15:39:56 -0700
>>>> From: nobbc at sonic.net
>>>> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
>>>> Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
>>>>
>>>> The string of rainy  weekends we've been having looks to have  
>>>> broken  so
>>>> it's time for Nobbc to ride again. Anyone up for a ride  this   
>>>> Saturday?
>>>> Usual time and place or does  anyone have an alternate suggestion?
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>> 58 MGA
>>>> _______________________________________________
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From tkamstra at sonic.net  Thu Nov  4 22:46:29 2010
From: tkamstra at sonic.net (Tcherek Kamstra)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 22:46:29 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
In-Reply-To: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B080@echo01.SID.LOCAL>
References: <E22338A08D91487A9005AD83F4DDA949@mike><188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E101
	71B06F@echo01.SID.LOCAL><F988DD572A644550AE284D1E4F690BDC@mike><188DC8EEED
	893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B075@echo01.SID.LOCAL>
	<F47231D4C07740D2AD615CE175585A59@mike>
	<188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B080@echo01.SID.LOCAL>
Message-ID: <a06240800c8f94a8a4564@[192.168.2.101]>

Just so everyone is aware, we are currently taking orders for the 
Morgan 3 wheeler at  Isis Imports!!

Best,

Tcherek

From dawsonchurch at gmail.com  Fri Nov  5 00:37:04 2010
From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 03:37:04 -0400
Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
In-Reply-To: <4CD36518.5010606@sonic.net>
References: <56745.7303dfa7.3a0470ce@aol.com>
  <4CD36518.5010606@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTint0kYSd2HZcAVA-rxu1EhHqwPvdde+18Gb1XuR@mail.gmail.com>

Great, keep me posted, I can make Sunday if that's what happens.

Dawson



On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Ron Engelhardt <nobbc at sonic.net> wrote:
> We will meet at 10AM Saturday in back of Bad Ass Coffee on the corner of
> Mark West Springs and Old Redwood Hwy...our "usual" spot. The weather is
>  deteriorating again so if it is raining we will cancel (if it's just
gloomy
> we'll ride!) and try for Sunday. If it rains both days, we'll reschedule
and
> curse our bad weather luck this year.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> MAEMLY at aol.com wrote:
>>
>> To all....................... Just got the Midget through smog.  Thanks to
>> all on different pieces of advice. Thought we might be able to go on  our
>> first ride since meeting some of you at the Vintage Race at Infinieon. But
>>  of course don't know where the meeting place is or if in fact the ride is
>> set.  Info please.............Amy & Mel 1979 Midget.............P. S. I'll
>> try and  keep up.
>>  In a message dated 11/3/2010 9:21:03 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>>  markdarley at mac.com writes:
>>
>> This is  the last weekend before Fall Forward time change on Sunday.
>> Sundown will be at 5pm the following weekend.  Afternoon driving  is
>>  producing beautiful light at this time of the year.
>>
>> How  about visiting a winery up in your neighborhood, with a slightly
>> later start?  "Mahitabel" prefers to avoid freeways on a  Saturday
 morning.
>>  Maybe a rendezvous at the bakery in  Freestone followed by  some lesser
>> known back country roads.
>>
>> I  would be stopping in Marshall for oysters on the way home, so that
>> could be included if the group wanted to go that  way.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Mark
>> 57 MGA
>>
>> Mark  Darley
>> markdarley at mac.com
>> 415 381 5452
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2010, at  11:28 PM, Dennis O'Dea wrote:
>>
>>
>>> This Saturday sounds good for a  drive.  I think it might be the only
>>>  Saturday
>>> this  month that we are not committed to something.
>>>
>>> Dennis &  Sheryl,
>>> 76MGB  Yellow
>>> 76MGB   Green
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 15:39:56 -0700
>>>> From: nobbc at sonic.net
>>>> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
>>>> Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
>>>>
>>>> The string of rainy  weekends we've been having looks to have broken  so
>>>> it's time for Nobbc to ride again. Anyone up for a ride  this  Saturday?
>>>> Usual time and place or does  anyone have an alternate suggestion?
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>> 58 MGA
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From mvg1 at att.net  Fri Nov  5 09:10:05 2010
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 09:10:05 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Spitfire parts
Message-ID: <A18EDBC785CB452CAAAA87335BDAFBD0@mike>

Hello All,

Anybody out there have any early Spitfire parts, in particular, a trunk lid
and floor pans?

Michael
64 TR4

From sarto477 at yahoo.com  Fri Nov  5 10:08:10 2010
From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 10:08:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] Spitfire parts
In-Reply-To: <A18EDBC785CB452CAAAA87335BDAFBD0@mike>
Message-ID: <714433.78341.qm@web113515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Mike, I don't have a floor pan or trunk lid but I do have a new glove box
and a template for the radiator air Shields for my old -- sold 1970 spitfire.
 What else do you need?   I'll look around but are mostly small bids and
pieces.
Sarto 

--- On Fri, 11/5/10, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net> wrote:

From: Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net>
Subject: [Nobbc] Spitfire parts
To: "nobbc" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, November 5, 2010, 9:10 AM

Hello All,

Anybody out there have any early Spitfire parts, in particular, a trunk lid
and floor pans?

Michael
64 TR4
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From wbain at sonic.net  Fri Nov  5 14:06:23 2010
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 14:06:23 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
In-Reply-To: <E22338A08D91487A9005AD83F4DDA949@mike>
References: <E22338A08D91487A9005AD83F4DDA949@mike>
Message-ID: <9DA9A161-ECD0-4C10-9BA1-8543D0B499A3@sonic.net>

Hi Mike,

This is very cool, of course I'm not exactly a disinterested party!!!

Wendell
59 Morgan

On Nov 4, 2010, at 7:40 AM, Mike Gianandrea wrote:

> This is way too cool, check it out.
>
> http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/11/morgan-brings-back-the- 
> threewheeler/
>
> Michael
> 64 TR4
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Fri Nov  5 14:26:01 2010
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 14:26:01 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
In-Reply-To: <9DA9A161-ECD0-4C10-9BA1-8543D0B499A3@sonic.net>
References: <E22338A08D91487A9005AD83F4DDA949@mike>
	<9DA9A161-ECD0-4C10-9BA1-8543D0B499A3@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <009f01cb7d30$0d27de90$27779bb0$@com>

Anyone know how much the new 3 wheeler is going for?

How about an old used one?

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806 2457 C
510 231 6805 F





-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of wendell bain
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 2:06 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER

Hi Mike,

This is very cool, of course I'm not exactly a disinterested party!!!

Wendell
59 Morgan

On Nov 4, 2010, at 7:40 AM, Mike Gianandrea wrote:

> This is way too cool, check it out.
>
> http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/11/morgan-brings-back-the- 
> threewheeler/
>
> Michael
> 64 TR4
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Fri Nov  5 16:34:42 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 16:34:42 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
In-Reply-To: <009f01cb7d30$0d27de90$27779bb0$@com>
References: <E22338A08D91487A9005AD83F4DDA949@mike>
	<9DA9A161-ECD0-4C10-9BA1-8543D0B499A3@sonic.net>
	<009f01cb7d30$0d27de90$27779bb0$@com>
Message-ID: <4CD49492.2060803@sonic.net>

I'm sure Tcherek will tell you how much the new ones are...You getting 
an itch John ;-0

Ron
58 MGA

John Kenner wrote:
> Anyone know how much the new 3 wheeler is going for?
> 
> How about an old used one?
> 
> JOHN KENNER
> 
> 510 231 6803 P
> 415 806 2457 C
> 510 231 6805 F
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of wendell bain
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 2:06 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> This is very cool, of course I'm not exactly a disinterested party!!!
> 
> Wendell
> 59 Morgan
> 
> On Nov 4, 2010, at 7:40 AM, Mike Gianandrea wrote:
> 
> 
>>This is way too cool, check it out.
>>
>>http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/11/morgan-brings-back-the- 
>>threewheeler/
>>
>>Michael
>>64 TR4
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Fri Nov  5 16:45:36 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (gtwincams at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 23:45:36 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
In-Reply-To: <4CD49492.2060803@sonic.net>
References: <E22338A08D91487A9005AD83F4DDA949@mike><9DA9A161-ECD0-4C10-9BA1-8543D0B499A3@sonic.net><009f01cb7d30$0d27de90$27779bb0$@com><4CD49492.2060803@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.33.1289000708.22015.nobbc@autox.team.net>

Yeah, but just 'cause he's only got room in his barn for a three-wheeler!
Greg Tatarian
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Engelhardt <nobbc at sonic.net>
Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 16:34:42 
To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER

I'm sure Tcherek will tell you how much the new ones are...You getting 
an itch John ;-0

Ron
58 MGA

John Kenner wrote:
> Anyone know how much the new 3 wheeler is going for?
> 
> How about an old used one?
> 
> JOHN KENNER
> 
> 510 231 6803 P
> 415 806 2457 C
> 510 231 6805 F
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of wendell bain
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 2:06 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> This is very cool, of course I'm not exactly a disinterested party!!!
> 
> Wendell
> 59 Morgan
> 
> On Nov 4, 2010, at 7:40 AM, Mike Gianandrea wrote:
> 
> 
>>This is way too cool, check it out.
>>
>>http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/11/morgan-brings-back-the- 
>>threewheeler/
>>
>>Michael
>>64 TR4
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From bluesson at hotmail.com  Fri Nov  5 17:47:32 2010
From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 17:47:32 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
In-Reply-To: <4CD49492.2060803@sonic.net>
References: <E22338A08D91487A9005AD83F4DDA949@mike>,
	<9DA9A161-ECD0-4C10-9BA1-8543D0B499A3@sonic.net>,
	<009f01cb7d30$0d27de90$27779bb0$@com>, <4CD49492.2060803@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <BLU128-W26C06C0CBE61A2BB60043BD04D0@phx.gbl>

 An OLD Morgan three wheeler, like a Super Sports with the big V-twin? First,
you have to find one, then pour out buckets of money. There was a beautiful
jet black resto super sports at that big hotel car show in Vegas. Type in 1934
MORGAN SUPERSPORT LAS VEGAS on google and it will come right up. I swear they
added that horrible side mount spare since I saw the car the last two times (I
always visit that room any time I'm in Vegas). It's not for sale now...but a
few years back it had a $75k sign on it. The thing is absolutely DINKY and
the driver being described as PETITE would certainly make it fit better.
   Problem is, those things are pretty unsafe. I'd want to spend at least an
hour in a parking lot just figuring out the controls on an original. The
throttle and spark advance are on the steering wheel, the shift lever (two
speeds) is OUTSIDE the cockpit, and the brake is on the floor as we're used
to. You could get mixed up real easy, and the BRAKES are positively antique.
   I'm betting the new one will cost at least fifty thousand american and
probably more. Make that sixty thousand american.
   I should show up in my Grinnall Scorpion tomorrow and show you what I did
for far less money. Faster and better handling too.
   I'd prefer to have a used TRIKING. Some of the guys in the club have seen a
couple of them when we ran to Bolinas and met the BOLINAS CYCLECAR CLUB (I'm a
founding member :-)) The Triking uses a sweet Guzzi v-twin and drivetrain, so
it's a shaft drive setup. Unfortunatley, the owner retired and no one bought
the company. I bought one of those around 1990 but the owner backed out on the
sale and returned my check.
   Anyhow, maybe I'll see you all in the morning.                 Tom
             Grinnall Scorpion #151
             2007 Mini Cooper S
             and still REGRETTING SELLING
             the original 62 Austin Mini Cooper

> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 16:34:42 -0700
> From: nobbc at sonic.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
>
> I'm sure Tcherek will tell you how much the new ones are...You getting
> an itch John ;-0
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> John Kenner wrote:
> > Anyone know how much the new 3 wheeler is going for?
> >
> > How about an old used one?
> >
> > JOHN KENNER
> >
> > 510 231 6803 P
> > 415 806 2457 C
> > 510 231 6805 F
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On
> > Behalf Of wendell bain
> > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 2:06 PM
> > To: North Bay British Car Club
> > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > This is very cool, of course I'm not exactly a disinterested party!!!
> >
> > Wendell
> > 59 Morgan
> >
> > On Nov 4, 2010, at 7:40 AM, Mike Gianandrea wrote:
> >
> >
> >>This is way too cool, check it out.
> >>
> >>http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/11/morgan-brings-back-the-
> >>threewheeler/
> >>
> >>Michael
> >>64 TR4
> >>_______________________________________________
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From riprock99 at comcast.net  Fri Nov  5 18:03:50 2010
From: riprock99 at comcast.net (Scott Irwin)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 18:03:50 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Spitfire parts
In-Reply-To: <A18EDBC785CB452CAAAA87335BDAFBD0@mike>
References: <A18EDBC785CB452CAAAA87335BDAFBD0@mike>
Message-ID: <AFD59372FBD742839B68C1767D865708@ScottPC>

I have a parts car that I need to get rid of.  The trunk lid is far from 
perfect, as is most of it, and it would take some work to extract from it's 
hole, but you are welcome to the lot.

Scott

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Gianandrea
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 9:10 AM
To: nobbc
Subject: [Nobbc] Spitfire parts

Hello All,

Anybody out there have any early Spitfire parts, in particular, a trunk lid
and floor pans?

Michael
64 TR4
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From riprock99 at comcast.net  Fri Nov  5 18:08:08 2010
From: riprock99 at comcast.net (Scott Irwin)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 18:08:08 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Spitfire parts
In-Reply-To: <A18EDBC785CB452CAAAA87335BDAFBD0@mike>
References: <A18EDBC785CB452CAAAA87335BDAFBD0@mike>
Message-ID: <E3C3F182C9F94702A00F4665C207036D@ScottPC>

The car is a 1964 with a good frame and the larger slot wheels.

Scott

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Gianandrea
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 9:10 AM
To: nobbc
Subject: [Nobbc] Spitfire parts

Hello All,

Anybody out there have any early Spitfire parts, in particular, a trunk lid
and floor pans?

Michael
64 TR4
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Fri Nov  5 18:30:56 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 18:30:56 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
In-Reply-To: <BLU128-W26C06C0CBE61A2BB60043BD04D0@phx.gbl>
References: <E22338A08D91487A9005AD83F4DDA949@mike>,
	<9DA9A161-ECD0-4C10-9BA1-8543D0B499A3@sonic.net>,
	<009f01cb7d30$0d27de90$27779bb0$@com>, <4CD49492.2060803@sonic.net>
	<BLU128-W26C06C0CBE61A2BB60043BD04D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4CD4AFD0.1010002@sonic.net>

Tom! Are you actually going to show up for a club ride? For a change? 
The TriKings are pretty neat...we should do another event with those 
folks sometime and also the Arcane Auto Society gang.

Ron
58 MGA

Tom Reier wrote:

>  An OLD Morgan three wheeler, like a Super Sports with the big V-twin? First,
> you have to find one, then pour out buckets of money. There was a beautiful
> jet black resto super sports at that big hotel car show in Vegas. Type in 1934
> MORGAN SUPERSPORT LAS VEGAS on google and it will come right up. I swear they
> added that horrible side mount spare since I saw the car the last two times (I
> always visit that room any time I'm in Vegas). It's not for sale now...but a
> few years back it had a $75k sign on it. The thing is absolutely DINKY and
> the driver being described as PETITE would certainly make it fit better.
>    Problem is, those things are pretty unsafe. I'd want to spend at least an
> hour in a parking lot just figuring out the controls on an original. The
> throttle and spark advance are on the steering wheel, the shift lever (two
> speeds) is OUTSIDE the cockpit, and the brake is on the floor as we're used
> to. You could get mixed up real easy, and the BRAKES are positively antique.
>    I'm betting the new one will cost at least fifty thousand american and
> probably more. Make that sixty thousand american.
>    I should show up in my Grinnall Scorpion tomorrow and show you what I did
> for far less money. Faster and better handling too.
>    I'd prefer to have a used TRIKING. Some of the guys in the club have seen a
> couple of them when we ran to Bolinas and met the BOLINAS CYCLECAR CLUB (I'm a
> founding member :-)) The Triking uses a sweet Guzzi v-twin and drivetrain, so
> it's a shaft drive setup. Unfortunatley, the owner retired and no one bought
> the company. I bought one of those around 1990 but the owner backed out on the
> sale and returned my check.
>    Anyhow, maybe I'll see you all in the morning.                 Tom
>              Grinnall Scorpion #151
>              2007 Mini Cooper S
>              and still REGRETTING SELLING
>              the original 62 Austin Mini Cooper
> 
> 
>>Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 16:34:42 -0700
>>From: nobbc at sonic.net
>>To: nobbc at autox.team.net
>>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
>>
>>I'm sure Tcherek will tell you how much the new ones are...You getting
>>an itch John ;-0
>>
>>Ron
>>58 MGA
>>
>>John Kenner wrote:
>>
>>>Anyone know how much the new 3 wheeler is going for?
>>>
>>>How about an old used one?
>>>
>>>JOHN KENNER
>>>
>>>510 231 6803 P
>>>415 806 2457 C
>>>510 231 6805 F
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
> 
> On
> 
>>>Behalf Of wendell bain
>>>Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 2:06 PM
>>>To: North Bay British Car Club
>>>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] NEW MORGAN 3 WHEELER
>>>
>>>Hi Mike,
>>>
>>>This is very cool, of course I'm not exactly a disinterested party!!!
>>>
>>>Wendell
>>>59 Morgan
>>>
>>>On Nov 4, 2010, at 7:40 AM, Mike Gianandrea wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>This is way too cool, check it out.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/11/morgan-brings-back-the-
>>>>threewheeler/
>>>>
>>>>Michael
>>>>64 TR4
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Sun Nov  7 17:54:52 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Gregory Tatarian)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 16:54:52 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTint0kYSd2HZcAVA-rxu1EhHqwPvdde+18Gb1XuR@mail.gmail.com>
References: <56745.7303dfa7.3a0470ce@aol.com> <4CD36518.5010606@sonic.net>
	<AANLkTint0kYSd2HZcAVA-rxu1EhHqwPvdde+18Gb1XuR@mail.gmail.com>
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What a great drive and great weather we had yesterday! It was really nice
meeting some new members, and putting faces to names on the mailing list.
Excellent turnout, nice route, good company, and perfect timing right before
the rain.
Cheers,
Greg and Trish Tatarian

From hawkview at sonic.net  Sun Nov  7 18:35:26 2010
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 17:35:26 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=JftsHs419tP+-UK0NGoTcvTWi4m2PUTD_sPDP@mail.gmail.com>
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	<4CD36518.5010606@sonic.net><AANLkTint0kYSd2HZcAVA-rxu1EhHqwPvdde+18Gb1XuR@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <D397631C2169498B87FE146BF94D7514@williamsonPC>

I agree.
It was a great ride and a great route. Wow.
A little lunch in Calistoga and then back to work on the house.
Hope you guys survived the fumes.
Cheers from Deb and I as well.
74 JH

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Gregory Tatarian" <gtwincams at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 4:54 PM
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Let's ride!

> What a great drive and great weather we had yesterday! It was really nice
> meeting some new members, and putting faces to names on the mailing list.
> Excellent turnout, nice route, good company, and perfect timing right 
> before
> the rain.
> Cheers,
> Greg and Trish Tatarian
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Sun Nov  7 18:38:34 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 17:38:34 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=JftsHs419tP+-UK0NGoTcvTWi4m2PUTD_sPDP@mail.gmail.com>
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Second that! We should plan a ride for after Thanksgiving, possibly on 
Sunday. Feel like leading a ride Dawson? Or anyone else?

Ron
58 MGA

Gregory Tatarian wrote:
> What a great drive and great weather we had yesterday! It was really nice
> meeting some new members, and putting faces to names on the mailing list.
> Excellent turnout, nice route, good company, and perfect timing right before
> the rain.
> Cheers,
> Greg and Trish Tatarian
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Sun Nov  7 19:39:09 2010
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 18:39:09 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
In-Reply-To: <4CD7549A.3060406@sonic.net>
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	<4CD7549A.3060406@sonic.net>
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I'll lead a ride on the Sunday after Thanksgiving!!!

If it's a Sunday maybe we can get the Wheelers to join us.

So, pack up your turkey sandwiches and hope for good weather.

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806 2457 C
510 231 6805 F




-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 5:39 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Let's ride!

Second that! We should plan a ride for after Thanksgiving, possibly on 
Sunday. Feel like leading a ride Dawson? Or anyone else?

Ron
58 MGA

Gregory Tatarian wrote:
> What a great drive and great weather we had yesterday! It was really nice
> meeting some new members, and putting faces to names on the mailing list.
> Excellent turnout, nice route, good company, and perfect timing right
before
> the rain.
> Cheers,
> Greg and Trish Tatarian
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Sun Nov  7 20:29:52 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 19:29:52 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
In-Reply-To: <000601cb7eee$1fc91860$5f5b4920$@com>
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	<AANLkTint0kYSd2HZcAVA-rxu1EhHqwPvdde+18Gb1XuR@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=JftsHs419tP+-UK0NGoTcvTWi4m2PUTD_sPDP@mail.gmail.com>
	<4CD7549A.3060406@sonic.net> <000601cb7eee$1fc91860$5f5b4920$@com>
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Thanks John, start at Noon?

Ron

John Kenner wrote:

> I'll lead a ride on the Sunday after Thanksgiving!!!
> 
> If it's a Sunday maybe we can get the Wheelers to join us.
> 
> So, pack up your turkey sandwiches and hope for good weather.
> 
> JOHN KENNER
> 
> 510 231 6803 P
> 415 806 2457 C
> 510 231 6805 F
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 5:39 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
> 
> Second that! We should plan a ride for after Thanksgiving, possibly on 
> Sunday. Feel like leading a ride Dawson? Or anyone else?
> 
> Ron
> 58 MGA
> 
> Gregory Tatarian wrote:
> 
>>What a great drive and great weather we had yesterday! It was really nice
>>meeting some new members, and putting faces to names on the mailing list.
>>Excellent turnout, nice route, good company, and perfect timing right
> 
> before
> 
>>the rain.
>>Cheers,
>>Greg and Trish Tatarian
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From MAEMLY at aol.com  Sun Nov  7 21:12:46 2010
From: MAEMLY at aol.com (MAEMLY at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 23:12:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
Message-ID: <8c1d5.7be2a50c.3a08d2bd@aol.com>

To all...........Thanks for an enjoyable first ride and good  camaraderie. 
Couldn't ask for better weather and great mix of autos with only a  few 
hiccups. Always a learning experience................Amy &  Mel
 
 
In a message dated 11/7/2010 6:23:51 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
jkenner at tamcab.com writes:

I'll  lead a ride on the Sunday after Thanksgiving!!!

If it's a Sunday maybe  we can get the Wheelers to join us.

So, pack up your turkey sandwiches  and hope for good weather.

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806  2457 C
510 231 6805 F




-----Original  Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net  [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
Sent:  Sunday, November 07, 2010 5:39 PM
To: North Bay British Car  Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Let's ride!

Second that! We should plan a  ride for after Thanksgiving, possibly on 
Sunday. Feel like leading a ride  Dawson? Or anyone else?

Ron
58 MGA

Gregory Tatarian  wrote:
> What a great drive and great weather we had yesterday! It was  really nice
> meeting some new members, and putting faces to names on  the mailing list.
> Excellent turnout, nice route, good company, and  perfect timing right
before
> the rain.
> Cheers,
> Greg  and Trish Tatarian
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From markdarley at mac.com  Sun Nov  7 21:27:41 2010
From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 20:27:41 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
In-Reply-To: <4CD76EB0.8060807@sonic.net>
References: <56745.7303dfa7.3a0470ce@aol.com> <4CD36518.5010606@sonic.net>
	<AANLkTint0kYSd2HZcAVA-rxu1EhHqwPvdde+18Gb1XuR@mail.gmail.com>
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	<4CD76EB0.8060807@sonic.net>
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That was a great ride and, as Greg mentioned, I too was glad to put  
faces to names.

Incidentally Ron, thanks to your observation I have now pushed forward  
the adjustable wheel and gained all kinds of space in the cockpit. The  
clutch is also adjusted and tighter.   This proved the great value of  
having another owner of the same car take yours for a test spin round  
the parking lot.  We all get used to our car's (and our) bad habits!
Cheers
Mark

'57 MGA

Mark Darley
markdarley at mac.com
415 381 5452



On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:29 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote:

> Thanks John, start at Noon?
>
> Ron
>
> John Kenner wrote:
>
>> I'll lead a ride on the Sunday after Thanksgiving!!!
>> If it's a Sunday maybe we can get the Wheelers to join us.
>> So, pack up your turkey sandwiches and hope for good weather.
>> JOHN KENNER
>> 510 231 6803 P
>> 415 806 2457 C
>> 510 231 6805 F
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net 
>> ] On
>> Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
>> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 5:39 PM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
>> Second that! We should plan a ride for after Thanksgiving, possibly  
>> on Sunday. Feel like leading a ride Dawson? Or anyone else?
>> Ron
>> 58 MGA
>> Gregory Tatarian wrote:
>>> What a great drive and great weather we had yesterday! It was  
>>> really nice
>>> meeting some new members, and putting faces to names on the  
>>> mailing list.
>>> Excellent turnout, nice route, good company, and perfect timing  
>>> right
>> before
>>> the rain.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Greg and Trish Tatarian
>>> _______________________________________________
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Sun Nov  7 21:48:46 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Gregory Tatarian)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 20:48:46 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
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Ron/John,
How about starting at 11?
Cheers,
Greg

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Ron Engelhardt <nobbc at sonic.net> wrote:

> Thanks John, start at Noon?
>
> Ron
>
> John Kenner wrote:
>
>  I'll lead a ride on the Sunday after Thanksgiving!!!
>>
>> If it's a Sunday maybe we can get the Wheelers to join us.
>>
>> So, pack up your turkey sandwiches and hope for good weather.
>>
>> JOHN KENNER
>>
>> 510 231 6803 P
>> 415 806 2457 C
>> 510 231 6805 F
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
>> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 5:39 PM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Let's ride!
>>
>> Second that! We should plan a ride for after Thanksgiving, possibly on
>> Sunday. Feel like leading a ride Dawson? Or anyone else?
>>
>> Ron
>> 58 MGA
>>
>> Gregory Tatarian wrote:
>>
>>  What a great drive and great weather we had yesterday! It was really nice
>>> meeting some new members, and putting faces to names on the mailing list.
>>> Excellent turnout, nice route, good company, and perfect timing right
>>>
>>
>> before
>>
>>  the rain.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Greg and Trish Tatarian
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From MAEMLY at aol.com  Thu Nov 11 12:26:53 2010
From: MAEMLY at aol.com (MAEMLY at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 14:26:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Nobbc] Fwd: American MGB Association Octagon: December 2010
Message-ID: <7569.737dd37c.3a0d9d7c@aol.com>

To all...............As mentioned to a couple participants in Sat's  Race 
to Napa. This is a MG Club that offers many services and some down right  
good advice. Mention my Name and I'll get credit for you joining.......... LOL. 
          But I am  sure many would be quite satisfied . Also would give an 
opportunity to  some to sell there great inventions to a broad spectrum of 
people. I am thinking  specifically of the "Lotus Fellow" (I apologize for 
not using your name as we  old people have really short memories) with the 
Two Eared Nock Off Nut  protector and torque wrench installation tool for our 
rims.
          The Club is  being run by some very responsive  people as I had a 
difficult time getting  my add for help and got a ph call direct from the 
President giving me  directions, now to me that's really going out of your 
way..........Amy &  Mel
 
  
____________________________________
 From: info at mgclub.org
To: info at mgclub.org
Sent: 11/11/2010 8:16:15 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time
Subj: American MGB Association Octagon: December  2010


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[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of 2010_December_Octagon.pdf]

From mewgull at sonic.net  Thu Nov 11 15:47:32 2010
From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 14:47:32 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4-A parts
In-Reply-To: <20081231035649.540BE18766F@autox.team.net>
References: <20081231035649.540BE18766F@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <A468A260-D409-49C2-A216-7F300D2BC8E9@sonic.net>

Hi all,

I've just discovered the awful truth... almost everything I need for
the TR4-A is made from unobtainium.  Moss Motors has all the stuff I
don't need but is lacking most of the critical bits necessary to make
the little beauty safe and sane.  Can anyone here suggest a good
source for the vital bits in the E-brake?   The ratchet, pawl, release
button etc. are all unavailable from Moss.   They suggested an outfit
in Santa Clara called O'Connor Classic Autos which they said deals in
used Brit car parts.   But the number has been disconnected.  THAT's
not a good sign.

Thanks in advance for any aid,
Gerry


G. Mugele
mewgull at mugele.net

*** The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self
awareness.  -- Annie Savoy

From jkenner at tamcab.com  Thu Nov 11 16:16:16 2010
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:16:16 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4-A parts
In-Reply-To: <A468A260-D409-49C2-A216-7F300D2BC8E9@sonic.net>
References: <20081231035649.540BE18766F@autox.team.net>
	<A468A260-D409-49C2-A216-7F300D2BC8E9@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <002501cb81f6$728be5e0$57a3b1a0$@com>

try TRIUMPHS ONLY in Stockton

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806 2457 C
510 231 6805 F




-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of G. Mugele
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:48 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4-A parts

Hi all,

I've just discovered the awful truth... almost everything I need for
the TR4-A is made from unobtainium.  Moss Motors has all the stuff I
don't need but is lacking most of the critical bits necessary to make
the little beauty safe and sane.  Can anyone here suggest a good
source for the vital bits in the E-brake?   The ratchet, pawl, release
button etc. are all unavailable from Moss.   They suggested an outfit
in Santa Clara called O'Connor Classic Autos which they said deals in
used Brit car parts.   But the number has been disconnected.  THAT's
not a good sign.

Thanks in advance for any aid,
Gerry


G. Mugele
mewgull at mugele.net

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awareness.  -- Annie Savoy
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Thu Nov 11 16:41:43 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:41:43 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4-A parts
In-Reply-To: <002501cb81f6$728be5e0$57a3b1a0$@com>
References: <20081231035649.540BE18766F@autox.team.net>
	<A468A260-D409-49C2-A216-7F300D2BC8E9@sonic.net>
	<002501cb81f6$728be5e0$57a3b1a0$@com>
Message-ID: <4CDC7F37.2090901@gmail.com>

  But you might not want to delay - the business is for sale.
Good luck,
Greg Tatarian


On 11/11/2010 3:16 PM, John Kenner wrote:
> try TRIUMPHS ONLY in Stockton
>
> JOHN KENNER
>
> 510 231 6803 P
> 415 806 2457 C
> 510 231 6805 F

From MAEMLY at aol.com  Thu Nov 11 16:47:28 2010
From: MAEMLY at aol.com (MAEMLY at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:47:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4-A parts
Message-ID: <34030.12e67645.3a0dda90@aol.com>

Did you happen to see my blurp about that other Mg/British Club I  put out 
this am/ pm?...................Amy & Mel
 
 
In a message dated 11/11/2010 2:08:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
mewgull at sonic.net writes:

Hi  all,

I've just discovered the awful truth... almost everything I need  for
the TR4-A is made from unobtainium.  Moss Motors has all the stuff  I
don't need but is lacking most of the critical bits necessary to  make
the little beauty safe and sane.  Can anyone here suggest a  good
source for the vital bits in the E-brake?   The ratchet,  pawl, release
button etc. are all unavailable from Moss.   They  suggested an outfit
in Santa Clara called O'Connor Classic Autos which they  said deals in
used Brit car parts.   But the number has been  disconnected.  THAT's
not a good sign.

Thanks in advance for  any aid,
Gerry


G. Mugele
mewgull at mugele.net

*** The  world is made for people who aren't cursed with self
awareness.  -- Annie  Savoy
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From mvg1 at att.net  Thu Nov 11 16:53:36 2010
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:53:36 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4-A parts
References: <20081231035649.540BE18766F@autox.team.net>
	<A468A260-D409-49C2-A216-7F300D2BC8E9@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <74B21F05B127440C95A37161BFFC6E1C@mike>

Hi Gerry,

You could try Waynes Triumph Only in Stocton, he has lots parts and parts 
cars.
Also, Spit Bits in Lincoln, Victoria British in Lenexa Kansas, British Parts 
Northwest in Portland, and the Roadster Factory in Armagh Penn.

Michael
64 TR4

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "G. Mugele" <mewgull at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:47 PM
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4-A parts


> Hi all,
>
> I've just discovered the awful truth... almost everything I need for
> the TR4-A is made from unobtainium.  Moss Motors has all the stuff I
> don't need but is lacking most of the critical bits necessary to make
> the little beauty safe and sane.  Can anyone here suggest a good
> source for the vital bits in the E-brake?   The ratchet, pawl, release
> button etc. are all unavailable from Moss.   They suggested an outfit
> in Santa Clara called O'Connor Classic Autos which they said deals in
> used Brit car parts.   But the number has been disconnected.  THAT's
> not a good sign.
>
> Thanks in advance for any aid,
> Gerry
>
>
> G. Mugele
> mewgull at mugele.net
>
> *** The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self
> awareness.  -- Annie Savoy
> _______________________________________________
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Thu Nov 11 17:00:35 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:00:35 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4-A parts
In-Reply-To: <002501cb81f6$728be5e0$57a3b1a0$@com>
References: <20081231035649.540BE18766F@autox.team.net>
	<A468A260-D409-49C2-A216-7F300D2BC8E9@sonic.net>
	<002501cb81f6$728be5e0$57a3b1a0$@com>
Message-ID: <4CDC83A3.2070007@sonic.net>

Good suggestion! Steve used to get his parts there so the car will be known.

Ron
58 MGA

John Kenner wrote:

> try TRIUMPHS ONLY in Stockton
> 
> JOHN KENNER
> 
> 510 231 6803 P
> 415 806 2457 C
> 510 231 6805 F
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of G. Mugele
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:48 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: [Nobbc] TR4-A parts
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I've just discovered the awful truth... almost everything I need for
> the TR4-A is made from unobtainium.  Moss Motors has all the stuff I
> don't need but is lacking most of the critical bits necessary to make
> the little beauty safe and sane.  Can anyone here suggest a good
> source for the vital bits in the E-brake?   The ratchet, pawl, release
> button etc. are all unavailable from Moss.   They suggested an outfit
> in Santa Clara called O'Connor Classic Autos which they said deals in
> used Brit car parts.   But the number has been disconnected.  THAT's
> not a good sign.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any aid,
> Gerry
> 
> 
> G. Mugele
> mewgull at mugele.net
> 
> *** The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self
> awareness.  -- Annie Savoy
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From rlmossholder at comcast.net  Thu Nov 11 17:07:39 2010
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 00:07:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4-A parts
In-Reply-To: <A468A260-D409-49C2-A216-7F300D2BC8E9@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <813354018.1263062.1289520459005.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Gerry, 

You might try Rimmer Brothers in England. I have had great success with them. Very professional, and quite quick. 

www.rimmerbros.co.uk 

Rich 
'71 Spitfire 

From riprock99 at comcast.net  Thu Nov 11 17:26:56 2010
From: riprock99 at comcast.net (Scott Irwin)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:26:56 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4-A parts
In-Reply-To: <A468A260-D409-49C2-A216-7F300D2BC8E9@sonic.net>
References: <20081231035649.540BE18766F@autox.team.net>
	<A468A260-D409-49C2-A216-7F300D2BC8E9@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <0F37F47456B2474FB4137A43C3A4859D@ScottPC>

I was/am going to suggest Nigel at Spitbits.  I think the TR4 uses the same 
fly-off handbrake as the early Spitfires.  On my car, I replaced the button 
by welding a washer on to take the load, and finding another button for the 
looks.  There are many parts shared between the cars.

Scott

-----Original Message----- 
From: G. Mugele
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:47 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4-A parts

Hi all,

I've just discovered the awful truth... almost everything I need for
the TR4-A is made from unobtainium.  Moss Motors has all the stuff I
don't need but is lacking most of the critical bits necessary to make
the little beauty safe and sane.  Can anyone here suggest a good
source for the vital bits in the E-brake?   The ratchet, pawl, release
button etc. are all unavailable from Moss.   They suggested an outfit
in Santa Clara called O'Connor Classic Autos which they said deals in
used Brit car parts.   But the number has been disconnected.  THAT's
not a good sign.

Thanks in advance for any aid,
Gerry


G. Mugele
mewgull at mugele.net

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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Thu Nov 11 18:00:16 2010
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:00:16 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4-A parts
In-Reply-To: <813354018.1263062.1289520459005.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <A468A260-D409-49C2-A216-7F300D2BC8E9@sonic.net>
	<813354018.1263062.1289520459005.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <002f01cb8204$f9396780$ebac3680$@com>

Gerry,

when all else fails I agree, Rimmer Bros. has almost everything and even
though they are in the U.K. 
the pricing is not that bad.

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806 2457 C
510 231 6805 F





-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of rlmossholder at comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 4:08 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] TR4-A parts

Gerry, 

You might try Rimmer Brothers in England. I have had great success with
them. Very professional, and quite quick. 

www.rimmerbros.co.uk 

Rich 
'71 Spitfire 
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From desmo93 at att.net  Thu Nov 11 20:50:00 2010
From: desmo93 at att.net (marcus)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 19:50:00 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4-A parts
References: <20081231035649.540BE18766F@autox.team.net>
	<A468A260-D409-49C2-A216-7F300D2BC8E9@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <89AC03D47BBB4D17924DF23C17F0A857@marcuse8622318>

I bought a couple of used, unobtainable parts from this company:

http://teamtriumph.com/

were very helpful and the parts arrived as described at what I thought was a 
reasonable price.

Marcus
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "G. Mugele" <mewgull at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:47 PM
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4-A parts


> Hi all,
>
> I've just discovered the awful truth... almost everything I need for
> the TR4-A is made from unobtainium.  Moss Motors has all the stuff I
> don't need but is lacking most of the critical bits necessary to make
> the little beauty safe and sane.  Can anyone here suggest a good
> source for the vital bits in the E-brake?   The ratchet, pawl, release
> button etc. are all unavailable from Moss.   They suggested an outfit
> in Santa Clara called O'Connor Classic Autos which they said deals in
> used Brit car parts.   But the number has been disconnected.  THAT's
> not a good sign.
>
> Thanks in advance for any aid,
> Gerry
>
>
> G. Mugele
> mewgull at mugele.net
>
> *** The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self
> awareness.  -- Annie Savoy
> _______________________________________________
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From wbain at sonic.net  Fri Nov 12 14:56:20 2010
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 13:56:20 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4-A parts
In-Reply-To: <89AC03D47BBB4D17924DF23C17F0A857@marcuse8622318>
References: <20081231035649.540BE18766F@autox.team.net>
	<A468A260-D409-49C2-A216-7F300D2BC8E9@sonic.net>
	<89AC03D47BBB4D17924DF23C17F0A857@marcuse8622318>
Message-ID: <D40D098E-7A99-4CEF-871D-216FE9331493@sonic.net>

Thanks Marcus. I didn't know about this one. When I had TR-3's and  
TR-4's
I went to all the sources that Mike Gianandrea listed. It seems The  
Roadster Factory
may not be anymore. There are instructions for purchasing the domain  
name when you
go there, plus there are apparently office shelves that are  
identified with TR-4.
The world keeps on moving on!!!

Wendell
Morgan Plus 4

On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:50 PM, marcus wrote:

> http://teamtriumph.com/

From desmo93 at att.net  Fri Nov 12 17:26:54 2010
From: desmo93 at att.net (marcus)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:26:54 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4-A parts
References: <20081231035649.540BE18766F@autox.team.net><A468A260-D409-49C2-A216-7F300D2BC8E9@sonic.net><89AC03D47BBB4D17924DF23C17F0A857@marcuse8622318>
	<D40D098E-7A99-4CEF-871D-216FE9331493@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <9E060937901947B0A62BD5A75E561404@marcuse8622318>

Wendell,

The Roadster factory still is in business, just got their latest special 
email!

http://www.the-roadster-factory.com/indexmain.php

Call British Parts Northwest, if they do not have it, they may be able to 
recommend someone who does.  Rimmer Brothers does also carry some used 
parts, they are worth a look.

Marcus
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "wendell bain" <wbain at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] TR4-A parts


> Thanks Marcus. I didn't know about this one. When I had TR-3's and
> TR-4's
> I went to all the sources that Mike Gianandrea listed. It seems The
> Roadster Factory
> may not be anymore. There are instructions for purchasing the domain
> name when you
> go there, plus there are apparently office shelves that are
> identified with TR-4.
> The world keeps on moving on!!!
>
> Wendell
> Morgan Plus 4
>
> On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:50 PM, marcus wrote:
>
>> http://teamtriumph.com/
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From mewgull at sonic.net  Mon Nov 15 12:31:38 2010
From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:31:38 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4A Parts
Message-ID: <9B97E8C6-67BA-41E7-9F3E-3F0918C4F353@sonic.net>

Wow!  You guys are terrific!

I was amazed at all the sources you all know.

Thanks ever so....

I have just order the e-brake assembly from Team Triumph.  They're in
Warren, Ohio so it will be some time before I know for certain how
happy I am with what they're selling but it seems to be exactly what I
need.

Thanks again, to all who offered suggestions.

On another front:  There is clearly a problem with the clutch which I
found soon after setting off from Colorado.   It seems to be binary,
fulling engaged or fully disengaged.  The problem source seems to be a
lack of lubricant on the splines causing it to bind on something.
Since any fix is going to involve pulling the gearbox and since I'm
not sure how good the box really is, I'm considering getting one of
those VERY expensive conversion kits and installing a toyota 5-
speed.   What I've learned about this is that it's a seemless (more or
less) conversion and that the 5th OD gives the TR reasonable highway
speeds without forcing the tach needle to twist to the right
excessively.  Has anyone here done anything like that and if so what
was the result?  Other opinions sought, if anyone has any strong
feelings one way or another.

Yes I know that it will take away from the originality of the car but
it's not particularly egregious.  I found some photos of a TR4 with
the conversion and it looks totally stock.... at least a glance.  And
heck... I'm gonna stick on a spin-off filter and maybe go to a
pertronix distributor.... so.... well....   she is a little long in
the tooth.

Gerry

G. Mugele
mewgull at mugele.net

*** The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self
awareness.  -- Annie Savoy

From markdarley at mac.com  Mon Nov 15 13:12:27 2010
From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:12:27 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] MGA Hardtop
In-Reply-To: <9B97E8C6-67BA-41E7-9F3E-3F0918C4F353@sonic.net>
References: <9B97E8C6-67BA-41E7-9F3E-3F0918C4F353@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <82FC1D75-5B9E-4A34-BF21-993DA488A42F@mac.com>

Does anyone in the group have an MGA original (Vanden Plas) aluminum  
hardtop that is complete but unrestored?

I am trying to get really good photographs of the edge details and  
fabrication methods to see if it is possible to manufacture a  
reproduction in either fibreglass or aluminum.

A restored one would also be a help but harder to see how it was put  
together without removing the lining etc!

It would be a faithful repro of the original shape and use all the  
currently available hardware.

I am in Mill Valley and the potential manufacturer is in American  
Canyon, so I am willing to drive to photograph it.

Thanks
Mark

'57 Tyrolite MGA


Mark Darley
markdarley at mac.com
Mobile Phone 415 310 5252



On Nov 15, 2010, at 11:31 AM, G. Mugele wrote:

> Wow!  You guys are terrific!
>
> I was amazed at all the sources you all know.
>
> Thanks ever so....
>
> I have just order the e-brake assembly from Team Triumph.  They're in
> Warren, Ohio so it will be some time before I know for certain how
> happy I am with what they're selling but it seems to be exactly what I
> need.
>
> Thanks again, to all who offered suggestions.
>
> On another front:  There is clearly a problem with the clutch which I
> found soon after setting off from Colorado.   It seems to be binary,
> fulling engaged or fully disengaged.  The problem source seems to be a
> lack of lubricant on the splines causing it to bind on something.
> Since any fix is going to involve pulling the gearbox and since I'm
> not sure how good the box really is, I'm considering getting one of
> those VERY expensive conversion kits and installing a toyota 5-
> speed.   What I've learned about this is that it's a seemless (more or
> less) conversion and that the 5th OD gives the TR reasonable highway
> speeds without forcing the tach needle to twist to the right
> excessively.  Has anyone here done anything like that and if so what
> was the result?  Other opinions sought, if anyone has any strong
> feelings one way or another.
>
> Yes I know that it will take away from the originality of the car but
> it's not particularly egregious.  I found some photos of a TR4 with
> the conversion and it looks totally stock.... at least a glance.  And
> heck... I'm gonna stick on a spin-off filter and maybe go to a
> pertronix distributor.... so.... well....   she is a little long in
> the tooth.
>
> Gerry
>
> G. Mugele
> mewgull at mugele.net
>
> *** The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self
> awareness.  -- Annie Savoy
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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> markdarley at mac.com

From wbain at sonic.net  Mon Nov 15 14:30:40 2010
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:30:40 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4-A parts
In-Reply-To: <9E060937901947B0A62BD5A75E561404@marcuse8622318>
References: <20081231035649.540BE18766F@autox.team.net><A468A260-D409-49C2-A216-7F300D2BC8E9@sonic.net><89AC03D47BBB4D17924DF23C17F0A857@marcuse8622318>
	<D40D098E-7A99-4CEF-871D-216FE9331493@sonic.net>
	<9E060937901947B0A62BD5A75E561404@marcuse8622318>
Message-ID: <1D514666-A4F2-4452-AA00-4EFCF896B096@sonic.net>

Marcus,

Thanks for the update.

Wendell

On Nov 12, 2010, at 4:26 PM, marcus wrote:

> http://www.the-roadster-factory.com/indexmain.php

From BergmanIns at comcast.net  Wed Nov 17 12:16:31 2010
From: BergmanIns at comcast.net (Peter & Nancy Bergman)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:16:31 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4A Parts
References: <9B97E8C6-67BA-41E7-9F3E-3F0918C4F353@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <FB4630B5A1C9452FAF28A2515D97C2AA@your4c9bae1112>

Hi, I did the HVDA (Herman van den Akker) conversion, and it was truly 
seamless. Everything fit, even the TR4A flywheel takes the new clutch, no 
drilling required. The car is completely transformed, completely relaxed at 
highway speeds (whatever they are, haven't recalibrated the speedo yet), 
with no rattles and no boat anchor hanging off the back end of the trans as 
on the old TR tranny. The only thing that requires some close measurements 
is the installation of the hydraulic throwout bearing, to be sure you don't 
overextend it.  I would highly recommend the conversion, and Herman is very 
helpful, if you have any questions along the way.  Feel free to ask me any 
questions.

Pete Bergman
(408) 773-1781
'67 TR4A
'54 JagXK120
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "G. Mugele" <mewgull at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:31 AM
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4A Parts


> Wow!  You guys are terrific!
>
> I was amazed at all the sources you all know.
>
> Thanks ever so....
>
> I have just order the e-brake assembly from Team Triumph.  They're in
> Warren, Ohio so it will be some time before I know for certain how
> happy I am with what they're selling but it seems to be exactly what I
> need.
>
> Thanks again, to all who offered suggestions.
>
> On another front:  There is clearly a problem with the clutch which I
> found soon after setting off from Colorado.   It seems to be binary,
> fulling engaged or fully disengaged.  The problem source seems to be a
> lack of lubricant on the splines causing it to bind on something.
> Since any fix is going to involve pulling the gearbox and since I'm
> not sure how good the box really is, I'm considering getting one of
> those VERY expensive conversion kits and installing a toyota 5-
> speed.   What I've learned about this is that it's a seemless (more or
> less) conversion and that the 5th OD gives the TR reasonable highway
> speeds without forcing the tach needle to twist to the right
> excessively.  Has anyone here done anything like that and if so what
> was the result?  Other opinions sought, if anyone has any strong
> feelings one way or another.
>
> Yes I know that it will take away from the originality of the car but
> it's not particularly egregious.  I found some photos of a TR4 with
> the conversion and it looks totally stock.... at least a glance.  And
> heck... I'm gonna stick on a spin-off filter and maybe go to a
> pertronix distributor.... so.... well....   she is a little long in
> the tooth.
>
> Gerry
>
> G. Mugele
> mewgull at mugele.net
>
> *** The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self
> awareness.  -- Annie Savoy
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From mvg1 at att.net  Wed Nov 17 13:12:53 2010
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 12:12:53 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4A Parts
References: <9B97E8C6-67BA-41E7-9F3E-3F0918C4F353@sonic.net>
	<FB4630B5A1C9452FAF28A2515D97C2AA@your4c9bae1112>
Message-ID: <5A0E1109972840DD9E9415BA5FC59B10@mike>

Hi Peter,

Who did the installation, how much did it cost, and how long did it take? Do 
you have contact info?

Michael 64 TR4

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter & Nancy Bergman" <BergmanIns at comcast.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] TR4A Parts


> Hi, I did the HVDA (Herman van den Akker) conversion, and it was truly 
> seamless. Everything fit, even the TR4A flywheel takes the new clutch, no 
> drilling required. The car is completely transformed, completely relaxed 
> at highway speeds (whatever they are, haven't recalibrated the speedo 
> yet), with no rattles and no boat anchor hanging off the back end of the 
> trans as on the old TR tranny. The only thing that requires some close 
> measurements is the installation of the hydraulic throwout bearing, to be 
> sure you don't overextend it.  I would highly recommend the conversion, 
> and Herman is very helpful, if you have any questions along the way.  Feel 
> free to ask me any questions.
>
> Pete Bergman
> (408) 773-1781
> '67 TR4A
> '54 JagXK120
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "G. Mugele" <mewgull at sonic.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:31 AM
> Subject: [Nobbc] TR4A Parts
>
>
>> Wow!  You guys are terrific!
>>
>> I was amazed at all the sources you all know.
>>
>> Thanks ever so....
>>
>> I have just order the e-brake assembly from Team Triumph.  They're in
>> Warren, Ohio so it will be some time before I know for certain how
>> happy I am with what they're selling but it seems to be exactly what I
>> need.
>>
>> Thanks again, to all who offered suggestions.
>>
>> On another front:  There is clearly a problem with the clutch which I
>> found soon after setting off from Colorado.   It seems to be binary,
>> fulling engaged or fully disengaged.  The problem source seems to be a
>> lack of lubricant on the splines causing it to bind on something.
>> Since any fix is going to involve pulling the gearbox and since I'm
>> not sure how good the box really is, I'm considering getting one of
>> those VERY expensive conversion kits and installing a toyota 5-
>> speed.   What I've learned about this is that it's a seemless (more or
>> less) conversion and that the 5th OD gives the TR reasonable highway
>> speeds without forcing the tach needle to twist to the right
>> excessively.  Has anyone here done anything like that and if so what
>> was the result?  Other opinions sought, if anyone has any strong
>> feelings one way or another.
>>
>> Yes I know that it will take away from the originality of the car but
>> it's not particularly egregious.  I found some photos of a TR4 with
>> the conversion and it looks totally stock.... at least a glance.  And
>> heck... I'm gonna stick on a spin-off filter and maybe go to a
>> pertronix distributor.... so.... well....   she is a little long in
>> the tooth.
>>
>> Gerry
>>
>> G. Mugele
>> mewgull at mugele.net
>>
>> *** The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self
>> awareness.  -- Annie Savoy
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $11.47
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>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
>> Unsubscribe/Manage: 
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/bergmanins at comcast.net
> _______________________________________________
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From BergmanIns at comcast.net  Thu Nov 18 17:36:51 2010
From: BergmanIns at comcast.net (Peter & Nancy Bergman)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:36:51 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4A Parts
References: <9B97E8C6-67BA-41E7-9F3E-3F0918C4F353@sonic.net><FB4630B5A1C9452FAF28A2515D97C2AA@your4c9bae1112>
	<5A0E1109972840DD9E9415BA5FC59B10@mike>
Message-ID: <E989864F2470430798C803997E094981@your4c9bae1112>

Hi Michael,

I don't exactly remember the cost, but it was around $1700, which included 
the new bell housing, mounts, speedo cable, an adapter cover for the Toyota 
trans, to make the TR shift lever come out is exactly the right place, 
hydraulic throwout bearing, driveshaft flanges and all hardware, nuts, bolts 
et.c. to do the conversion.  I found a transmission in San Jose, which was a 
W58, from I think a 85 Celica which I looked for because it has a fifth gear 
ratio of .783.  The pickup truck transmissions 1984 to 1996 have a fifth 
gear at .810, and I wanted the highest ratio to make the poor old Ferguson 
tractor engine loaf as much as possible on the freeway. The trans cost about 
$250, and happened to be in great shape. HVDA also includes new seals for 
the front and rear of the Toy trans, so as to guarantee no leaks.  I did the 
installation myself which wasn't very hard. The whole thing is the slickest 
conversion I'v ever done, everything fit. I probably spent the better part 
of a couple days doing it, with cleaning up old crap et.c. If you would like 
to see it in person, and drive it, I would surely let you, but at this time 
of the year we seem to have a lot of plans, but I do have some time here and 
there, so let me know if you're interested and we can find some mutually 
suitable time.  I live in Sunnyvale, but we could meet somewhere half way. 
Herman is a very helpful person, and could likely recommend someone to 
install the kit if you don't want to do it yourself. HVDA is on line at 
www.hvdaconversions.com

Pete



---- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Gianandrea" <mvg1 at att.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] TR4A Parts


> Hi Peter,
>
> Who did the installation, how much did it cost, and how long did it take? 
> Do you have contact info?
>
> Michael 64 TR4
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Peter & Nancy Bergman" <BergmanIns at comcast.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] TR4A Parts
>
>
>> Hi, I did the HVDA (Herman van den Akker) conversion, and it was truly 
>> seamless. Everything fit, even the TR4A flywheel takes the new clutch, no 
>> drilling required. The car is completely transformed, completely relaxed 
>> at highway speeds (whatever they are, haven't recalibrated the speedo 
>> yet), with no rattles and no boat anchor hanging off the back end of the 
>> trans as on the old TR tranny. The only thing that requires some close 
>> measurements is the installation of the hydraulic throwout bearing, to be 
>> sure you don't overextend it.  I would highly recommend the conversion, 
>> and Herman is very helpful, if you have any questions along the way. 
>> Feel free to ask me any questions.
>>
>> Pete Bergman
>> (408) 773-1781
>> '67 TR4A
>> '54 JagXK120
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "G. Mugele" <mewgull at sonic.net>
>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:31 AM
>> Subject: [Nobbc] TR4A Parts
>>
>>
>>> Wow!  You guys are terrific!
>>>
>>> I was amazed at all the sources you all know.
>>>
>>> Thanks ever so....
>>>
>>> I have just order the e-brake assembly from Team Triumph.  They're in
>>> Warren, Ohio so it will be some time before I know for certain how
>>> happy I am with what they're selling but it seems to be exactly what I
>>> need.
>>>
>>> Thanks again, to all who offered suggestions.
>>>
>>> On another front:  There is clearly a problem with the clutch which I
>>> found soon after setting off from Colorado.   It seems to be binary,
>>> fulling engaged or fully disengaged.  The problem source seems to be a
>>> lack of lubricant on the splines causing it to bind on something.
>>> Since any fix is going to involve pulling the gearbox and since I'm
>>> not sure how good the box really is, I'm considering getting one of
>>> those VERY expensive conversion kits and installing a toyota 5-
>>> speed.   What I've learned about this is that it's a seemless (more or
>>> less) conversion and that the 5th OD gives the TR reasonable highway
>>> speeds without forcing the tach needle to twist to the right
>>> excessively.  Has anyone here done anything like that and if so what
>>> was the result?  Other opinions sought, if anyone has any strong
>>> feelings one way or another.
>>>
>>> Yes I know that it will take away from the originality of the car but
>>> it's not particularly egregious.  I found some photos of a TR4 with
>>> the conversion and it looks totally stock.... at least a glance.  And
>>> heck... I'm gonna stick on a spin-off filter and maybe go to a
>>> pertronix distributor.... so.... well....   she is a little long in
>>> the tooth.
>>>
>>> Gerry
>>>
>>> G. Mugele
>>> mewgull at mugele.net
>>>
>>> *** The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self
>>> awareness.  -- Annie Savoy
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>> Suggested annual donation  $11.47
>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: 
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/bergmanins at comcast.net
>> _______________________________________________
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From mvg1 at att.net  Thu Nov 18 19:19:42 2010
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:19:42 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR4A Parts
References: <9B97E8C6-67BA-41E7-9F3E-3F0918C4F353@sonic.net><FB4630B5A1C9452FAF28A2515D97C2AA@your4c9bae1112><5A0E1109972840DD9E9415BA5FC59B10@mike>
	<E989864F2470430798C803997E094981@your4c9bae1112>
Message-ID: <4F90456422664C3081A36F239CB09F00@mike>

Thank you Peter.

Michael

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter & Nancy Bergman" <BergmanIns at comcast.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] TR4A Parts


> Hi Michael,
>
> I don't exactly remember the cost, but it was around $1700, which included 
> the new bell housing, mounts, speedo cable, an adapter cover for the 
> Toyota trans, to make the TR shift lever come out is exactly the right 
> place, hydraulic throwout bearing, driveshaft flanges and all hardware, 
> nuts, bolts et.c. to do the conversion.  I found a transmission in San 
> Jose, which was a W58, from I think a 85 Celica which I looked for because 
> it has a fifth gear ratio of .783.  The pickup truck transmissions 1984 to 
> 1996 have a fifth gear at .810, and I wanted the highest ratio to make the 
> poor old Ferguson tractor engine loaf as much as possible on the freeway. 
> The trans cost about $250, and happened to be in great shape. HVDA also 
> includes new seals for the front and rear of the Toy trans, so as to 
> guarantee no leaks.  I did the installation myself which wasn't very hard. 
> The whole thing is the slickest conversion I'v ever done, everything fit. 
> I probably spent the better part of a couple days doing it, with cleaning 
> up old crap et.c. If you would like to see it in person, and drive it, I 
> would surely let you, but at this time of the year we seem to have a lot 
> of plans, but I do have some time here and there, so let me know if you're 
> interested and we can find some mutually suitable time.  I live in 
> Sunnyvale, but we could meet somewhere half way. Herman is a very helpful 
> person, and could likely recommend someone to install the kit if you don't 
> want to do it yourself. HVDA is on line at www.hvdaconversions.com
>
> Pete
>
>
>
> ---- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Gianandrea" <mvg1 at att.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 12:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] TR4A Parts
>
>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> Who did the installation, how much did it cost, and how long did it take? 
>> Do you have contact info?
>>
>> Michael 64 TR4
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Peter & Nancy Bergman" <BergmanIns at comcast.net>
>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] TR4A Parts
>>
>>
>>> Hi, I did the HVDA (Herman van den Akker) conversion, and it was truly 
>>> seamless. Everything fit, even the TR4A flywheel takes the new clutch, 
>>> no drilling required. The car is completely transformed, completely 
>>> relaxed at highway speeds (whatever they are, haven't recalibrated the 
>>> speedo yet), with no rattles and no boat anchor hanging off the back end 
>>> of the trans as on the old TR tranny. The only thing that requires some 
>>> close measurements is the installation of the hydraulic throwout 
>>> bearing, to be sure you don't overextend it.  I would highly recommend 
>>> the conversion, and Herman is very helpful, if you have any questions 
>>> along the way. Feel free to ask me any questions.
>>>
>>> Pete Bergman
>>> (408) 773-1781
>>> '67 TR4A
>>> '54 JagXK120
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "G. Mugele" <mewgull at sonic.net>
>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:31 AM
>>> Subject: [Nobbc] TR4A Parts
>>>
>>>
>>>> Wow!  You guys are terrific!
>>>>
>>>> I was amazed at all the sources you all know.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks ever so....
>>>>
>>>> I have just order the e-brake assembly from Team Triumph.  They're in
>>>> Warren, Ohio so it will be some time before I know for certain how
>>>> happy I am with what they're selling but it seems to be exactly what I
>>>> need.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again, to all who offered suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> On another front:  There is clearly a problem with the clutch which I
>>>> found soon after setting off from Colorado.   It seems to be binary,
>>>> fulling engaged or fully disengaged.  The problem source seems to be a
>>>> lack of lubricant on the splines causing it to bind on something.
>>>> Since any fix is going to involve pulling the gearbox and since I'm
>>>> not sure how good the box really is, I'm considering getting one of
>>>> those VERY expensive conversion kits and installing a toyota 5-
>>>> speed.   What I've learned about this is that it's a seemless (more or
>>>> less) conversion and that the 5th OD gives the TR reasonable highway
>>>> speeds without forcing the tach needle to twist to the right
>>>> excessively.  Has anyone here done anything like that and if so what
>>>> was the result?  Other opinions sought, if anyone has any strong
>>>> feelings one way or another.
>>>>
>>>> Yes I know that it will take away from the originality of the car but
>>>> it's not particularly egregious.  I found some photos of a TR4 with
>>>> the conversion and it looks totally stock.... at least a glance.  And
>>>> heck... I'm gonna stick on a spin-off filter and maybe go to a
>>>> pertronix distributor.... so.... well....   she is a little long in
>>>> the tooth.
>>>>
>>>> Gerry
>>>>
>>>> G. Mugele
>>>> mewgull at mugele.net
>>>>
>>>> *** The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self
>>>> awareness.  -- Annie Savoy
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>>> Suggested annual donation  $11.47
>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: 
>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/bergmanins at comcast.net
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Thu Nov 18 19:56:54 2010
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:56:54 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
Message-ID: <008601cb8795$6cfa9730$46efc590$@com>

Hello Fellow Club Members,

 

Just a reminder that I will be leading a ride the Sunday after

Thanksgiving. We will meet at Bad Ass Coffee at 11am and 

depending on the weather we'll take a nice ride somewhere.

Probably you will be home by 2 or 3 pm. It will most likely

be TR250 weather so the ride won't be terribly fast or bumpy.

 

Bring turkey sandwiches and a full tank of gas as I think we 

will be having lunch in a remote location. More route

information coming next week as the weather forecasts come in.

 

With 120+  members in this club I'd like to see a big turnout.

If the weathers nice forget Football for a few hours and go for a ride.

 

 

JOHN KENNER

 

'66 Lotus Elan

'72 Lotus Elan Plus 2 under construction.

'68 TR 250

'64 Triumph Herald almost back together

'05 Mini Cooper S John Cooper Works ( should be illeagle )

'05 BMW X5

'05 Ford F250 Super Duty

'04 Ford F150

'05 Ford F350 15' Box Van

'02 Ford F250 14' Box Van

'01 Ford F250 14' Box Van

5 Acres

4 Dogs

3 Horses

2 Daughters

1 Wife for 36 years

 

510 231 6803 P

415 806 2457 C

510 231 6805 F

 

 

tamalpais_s

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From nobbc at sonic.net  Thu Nov 18 20:10:54 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:10:54 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
In-Reply-To: <008601cb8795$6cfa9730$46efc590$@com>
References: <008601cb8795$6cfa9730$46efc590$@com>
Message-ID: <4CE5EABE.1090004@sonic.net>

Thank you John! See you there. Let's hope for no rain!

Ron
58 MGA

John Kenner wrote:
> Hello Fellow Club Members,
> 
>  
> 
> Just a reminder that I will be leading a ride the Sunday after
> 
> Thanksgiving. We will meet at Bad Ass Coffee at 11am and 
> 
> depending on the weather we'll take a nice ride somewhere.
> 
> Probably you will be home by 2 or 3 pm. It will most likely
> 
> be TR250 weather so the ride won't be terribly fast or bumpy.
> 
>  
> 
> Bring turkey sandwiches and a full tank of gas as I think we 
> 
> will be having lunch in a remote location. More route
> 
> information coming next week as the weather forecasts come in.
> 
>  
> 
> With 120+  members in this club I'd like to see a big turnout.
> 
> If the weathers nice forget Football for a few hours and go for a ride.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> JOHN KENNER
> 
>  
> 
> '66 Lotus Elan
> 
> '72 Lotus Elan Plus 2 under construction.
> 
> '68 TR 250
> 
> '64 Triumph Herald almost back together
> 
> '05 Mini Cooper S John Cooper Works ( should be illeagle )
> 
> '05 BMW X5
> 
> '05 Ford F250 Super Duty
> 
> '04 Ford F150
> 
> '05 Ford F350 15' Box Van
> 
> '02 Ford F250 14' Box Van
> 
> '01 Ford F250 14' Box Van
> 
> 5 Acres
> 
> 4 Dogs
> 
> 3 Horses
> 
> 2 Daughters
> 
> 1 Wife for 36 years
> 
>  
> 
> 510 231 6803 P
> 
> 415 806 2457 C
> 
> 510 231 6805 F
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Thu Nov 18 20:45:47 2010
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:45:47 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
In-Reply-To: <4CE5EABE.1090004@sonic.net>
References: <008601cb8795$6cfa9730$46efc590$@com> <4CE5EABE.1090004@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <6307BCF9FC294F2082628304DD4747B7@williamsonPC>

Bummer.
Be in LA for Thanksgiving.  Also picking up a light weight flywheel for the 
JH.
Hope you guys have a good time and a great Thanksgiving.
Clif
74 Jensen Healey
PS.  Dawson.  Still have the paper work.
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:10 PM
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

> Thank you John! See you there. Let's hope for no rain!
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> John Kenner wrote:
>> Hello Fellow Club Members,
>>
>>  Just a reminder that I will be leading a ride the Sunday after
>>
>> Thanksgiving. We will meet at Bad Ass Coffee at 11am and depending on the 
>> weather we'll take a nice ride somewhere.
>>
>> Probably you will be home by 2 or 3 pm. It will most likely
>>
>> be TR250 weather so the ride won't be terribly fast or bumpy.
>>
>>  Bring turkey sandwiches and a full tank of gas as I think we will be 
>> having lunch in a remote location. More route
>>
>> information coming next week as the weather forecasts come in.
>>
>>  With 120+  members in this club I'd like to see a big turnout.
>>
>> If the weathers nice forget Football for a few hours and go for a ride.
>>
>>  JOHN KENNER
>>
>>  '66 Lotus Elan
>>
>> '72 Lotus Elan Plus 2 under construction.
>>
>> '68 TR 250
>>
>> '64 Triumph Herald almost back together
>>
>> '05 Mini Cooper S John Cooper Works ( should be illeagle )
>>
>> '05 BMW X5
>>
>> '05 Ford F250 Super Duty
>>
>> '04 Ford F150
>>
>> '05 Ford F350 15' Box Van
>>
>> '02 Ford F250 14' Box Van
>>
>> '01 Ford F250 14' Box Van
>>
>> 5 Acres
>>
>> 4 Dogs
>>
>> 3 Horses
>>
>> 2 Daughters
>>
>> 1 Wife for 36 years
>>
>>  510 231 6803 P
>>
>> 415 806 2457 C
>>
>> 510 231 6805 F
>>
>>  tamalpais_s
>>
>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of 
>> image001.gif]
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From klhoush at comcast.net  Thu Nov 18 22:13:15 2010
From: klhoush at comcast.net (Kurt Housh)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:13:15 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
In-Reply-To: <6307BCF9FC294F2082628304DD4747B7@williamsonPC>
References: <008601cb8795$6cfa9730$46efc590$@com> <4CE5EABE.1090004@sonic.net>
	<6307BCF9FC294F2082628304DD4747B7@williamsonPC>
Message-ID: <12BA39F3A907444F8E255F1E1200356C@jensen>

Hi Clif, is that an aluminum flywheel? I want one! 
Kurt
'73 JH

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:46 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

Bummer.
Be in LA for Thanksgiving.  Also picking up a light weight flywheel for the 
JH.
Hope you guys have a good time and a great Thanksgiving.
Clif
74 Jensen Healey
PS.  Dawson.  Still have the paper work.
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:10 PM
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

> Thank you John! See you there. Let's hope for no rain!
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> John Kenner wrote:
>> Hello Fellow Club Members,
>>
>>  Just a reminder that I will be leading a ride the Sunday after
>>
>> Thanksgiving. We will meet at Bad Ass Coffee at 11am and depending on the

>> weather we'll take a nice ride somewhere.
>>
>> Probably you will be home by 2 or 3 pm. It will most likely
>>
>> be TR250 weather so the ride won't be terribly fast or bumpy.
>>
>>  Bring turkey sandwiches and a full tank of gas as I think we will be 
>> having lunch in a remote location. More route
>>
>> information coming next week as the weather forecasts come in.
>>
>>  With 120+  members in this club I'd like to see a big turnout.
>>
>> If the weathers nice forget Football for a few hours and go for a ride.
>>
>>  JOHN KENNER
>>
>>  '66 Lotus Elan
>>
>> '72 Lotus Elan Plus 2 under construction.
>>
>> '68 TR 250
>>
>> '64 Triumph Herald almost back together
>>
>> '05 Mini Cooper S John Cooper Works ( should be illeagle )
>>
>> '05 BMW X5
>>
>> '05 Ford F250 Super Duty
>>
>> '04 Ford F150
>>
>> '05 Ford F350 15' Box Van
>>
>> '02 Ford F250 14' Box Van
>>
>> '01 Ford F250 14' Box Van
>>
>> 5 Acres
>>
>> 4 Dogs
>>
>> 3 Horses
>>
>> 2 Daughters
>>
>> 1 Wife for 36 years
>>
>>  510 231 6803 P
>>
>> 415 806 2457 C
>>
>> 510 231 6805 F
>>
>>  tamalpais_s
>>
>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of

>> image001.gif]
>> _______________________________________________
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Fri Nov 19 00:12:59 2010
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:12:59 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
In-Reply-To: <12BA39F3A907444F8E255F1E1200356C@jensen>
References: <008601cb8795$6cfa9730$46efc590$@com>
	<4CE5EABE.1090004@sonic.net><6307BCF9FC294F2082628304DD4747B7@williamsonPC>
	<12BA39F3A907444F8E255F1E1200356C@jensen>
Message-ID: <2CBB29CB8A6847B892C3CC2776CA06AE@williamsonPC>

Nope.  It is a new one that had about 6 pounds of steel removed.  I bought 
it because my ring gear is worn and causing difficulty starting.  On the 
last ride I was stuck beside the road and had to wait for everybody to get 
buy so I could rock the car and move the flywheel backward so it would 
engage with the starter.   The lost weight is just a bonus.
There is a lot of discussion on the JHPS website about lightened and 
aluminum flywheels.  You will be surprised at the different opinions 
regarding light weight flywheels.  Check it out.
Clif 74 JH

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Kurt Housh" <klhoush at comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:13 PM
To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

> Hi Clif, is that an aluminum flywheel? I want one!
> Kurt
> '73 JH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] 
> On
> Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:46 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
>
> Bummer.
> Be in LA for Thanksgiving.  Also picking up a light weight flywheel for 
> the
> JH.
> Hope you guys have a good time and a great Thanksgiving.
> Clif
> 74 Jensen Healey
> PS.  Dawson.  Still have the paper work.
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:10 PM
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
>
>> Thank you John! See you there. Let's hope for no rain!
>>
>> Ron
>> 58 MGA
>>
>> John Kenner wrote:
>>> Hello Fellow Club Members,
>>>
>>>  Just a reminder that I will be leading a ride the Sunday after
>>>
>>> Thanksgiving. We will meet at Bad Ass Coffee at 11am and depending on 
>>> the
>
>>> weather we'll take a nice ride somewhere.
>>>
>>> Probably you will be home by 2 or 3 pm. It will most likely
>>>
>>> be TR250 weather so the ride won't be terribly fast or bumpy.
>>>
>>>  Bring turkey sandwiches and a full tank of gas as I think we will be
>>> having lunch in a remote location. More route
>>>
>>> information coming next week as the weather forecasts come in.
>>>
>>>  With 120+  members in this club I'd like to see a big turnout.
>>>
>>> If the weathers nice forget Football for a few hours and go for a ride.
>>>
>>>  JOHN KENNER
>>>
>>>  '66 Lotus Elan
>>>
>>> '72 Lotus Elan Plus 2 under construction.
>>>
>>> '68 TR 250
>>>
>>> '64 Triumph Herald almost back together
>>>
>>> '05 Mini Cooper S John Cooper Works ( should be illeagle )
>>>
>>> '05 BMW X5
>>>
>>> '05 Ford F250 Super Duty
>>>
>>> '04 Ford F150
>>>
>>> '05 Ford F350 15' Box Van
>>>
>>> '02 Ford F250 14' Box Van
>>>
>>> '01 Ford F250 14' Box Van
>>>
>>> 5 Acres
>>>
>>> 4 Dogs
>>>
>>> 3 Horses
>>>
>>> 2 Daughters
>>>
>>> 1 Wife for 36 years
>>>
>>>  510 231 6803 P
>>>
>>> 415 806 2457 C
>>>
>>> 510 231 6805 F
>>>
>>>  tamalpais_s
>>>
>>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name 
>>> of
>
>>> image001.gif]
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From klhoush at comcast.net  Fri Nov 19 00:27:30 2010
From: klhoush at comcast.net (Kurt Housh)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:27:30 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
In-Reply-To: <2CBB29CB8A6847B892C3CC2776CA06AE@williamsonPC>
References: <008601cb8795$6cfa9730$46efc590$@com><4CE5EABE.1090004@sonic.net><6307BCF9FC294F2082628304DD4747B7@williamsonPC><12BA39F3A907444F8E255F1E1200356C@jensen>
	<2CBB29CB8A6847B892C3CC2776CA06AE@williamsonPC>
Message-ID: <D851FA185EEA491D9A6DD0ABB2B5E488@jensen>

Yeah, the race shop in Berkeley wouldn't touch my flywheel. They told me to
get an aluminum version but they're hard to find.

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:13 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

Nope.  It is a new one that had about 6 pounds of steel removed.  I bought 
it because my ring gear is worn and causing difficulty starting.  On the 
last ride I was stuck beside the road and had to wait for everybody to get 
buy so I could rock the car and move the flywheel backward so it would 
engage with the starter.   The lost weight is just a bonus.
There is a lot of discussion on the JHPS website about lightened and 
aluminum flywheels.  You will be surprised at the different opinions 
regarding light weight flywheels.  Check it out.
Clif 74 JH

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Kurt Housh" <klhoush at comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:13 PM
To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

> Hi Clif, is that an aluminum flywheel? I want one!
> Kurt
> '73 JH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] 
> On
> Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:46 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
>
> Bummer.
> Be in LA for Thanksgiving.  Also picking up a light weight flywheel for 
> the
> JH.
> Hope you guys have a good time and a great Thanksgiving.
> Clif
> 74 Jensen Healey
> PS.  Dawson.  Still have the paper work.
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:10 PM
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
>
>> Thank you John! See you there. Let's hope for no rain!
>>
>> Ron
>> 58 MGA
>>
>> John Kenner wrote:
>>> Hello Fellow Club Members,
>>>
>>>  Just a reminder that I will be leading a ride the Sunday after
>>>
>>> Thanksgiving. We will meet at Bad Ass Coffee at 11am and depending on 
>>> the
>
>>> weather we'll take a nice ride somewhere.
>>>
>>> Probably you will be home by 2 or 3 pm. It will most likely
>>>
>>> be TR250 weather so the ride won't be terribly fast or bumpy.
>>>
>>>  Bring turkey sandwiches and a full tank of gas as I think we will be
>>> having lunch in a remote location. More route
>>>
>>> information coming next week as the weather forecasts come in.
>>>
>>>  With 120+  members in this club I'd like to see a big turnout.
>>>
>>> If the weathers nice forget Football for a few hours and go for a ride.
>>>
>>>  JOHN KENNER
>>>
>>>  '66 Lotus Elan
>>>
>>> '72 Lotus Elan Plus 2 under construction.
>>>
>>> '68 TR 250
>>>
>>> '64 Triumph Herald almost back together
>>>
>>> '05 Mini Cooper S John Cooper Works ( should be illeagle )
>>>
>>> '05 BMW X5
>>>
>>> '05 Ford F250 Super Duty
>>>
>>> '04 Ford F150
>>>
>>> '05 Ford F350 15' Box Van
>>>
>>> '02 Ford F250 14' Box Van
>>>
>>> '01 Ford F250 14' Box Van
>>>
>>> 5 Acres
>>>
>>> 4 Dogs
>>>
>>> 3 Horses
>>>
>>> 2 Daughters
>>>
>>> 1 Wife for 36 years
>>>
>>>  510 231 6803 P
>>>
>>> 415 806 2457 C
>>>
>>> 510 231 6805 F
>>>
>>>  tamalpais_s
>>>
>>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name 
>>> of
>
>>> image001.gif]
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Fri Nov 19 00:36:33 2010
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:36:33 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
In-Reply-To: <D851FA185EEA491D9A6DD0ABB2B5E488@jensen>
References: <008601cb8795$6cfa9730$46efc590$@com><4CE5EABE.1090004@sonic.net><6307BCF9FC294F2082628304DD4747B7@williamsonPC><12BA39F3A907444F8E255F1E1200356C@jensen><2CBB29CB8A6847B892C3CC2776CA06AE@williamsonPC>
	<D851FA185EEA491D9A6DD0ABB2B5E488@jensen>
Message-ID: <3C8C6604493E477BB1A4203BD42DBB4C@williamsonPC>

Both are hard to find.  I wasn't really looking for a light weight, but as 
luck would have it.  This one is new but will need to be refaced since it 
sat around in the guys garage for about 10 years after he gave up on his 
project.  Just a little surface rust.  Does anybody know a good shop for 
this operation?  I think 10 microns is required.
Thank,
Clif  74 JH

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Kurt Housh" <klhoush at comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:27 PM
To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

> Yeah, the race shop in Berkeley wouldn't touch my flywheel. They told me 
> to
> get an aluminum version but they're hard to find.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] 
> On
> Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:13 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
>
> Nope.  It is a new one that had about 6 pounds of steel removed.  I bought
> it because my ring gear is worn and causing difficulty starting.  On the
> last ride I was stuck beside the road and had to wait for everybody to get
> buy so I could rock the car and move the flywheel backward so it would
> engage with the starter.   The lost weight is just a bonus.
> There is a lot of discussion on the JHPS website about lightened and
> aluminum flywheels.  You will be surprised at the different opinions
> regarding light weight flywheels.  Check it out.
> Clif 74 JH
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Kurt Housh" <klhoush at comcast.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:13 PM
> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
>
>> Hi Clif, is that an aluminum flywheel? I want one!
>> Kurt
>> '73 JH
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson
>> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:46 PM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
>>
>> Bummer.
>> Be in LA for Thanksgiving.  Also picking up a light weight flywheel for
>> the
>> JH.
>> Hope you guys have a good time and a great Thanksgiving.
>> Clif
>> 74 Jensen Healey
>> PS.  Dawson.  Still have the paper work.
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:10 PM
>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
>>
>>> Thank you John! See you there. Let's hope for no rain!
>>>
>>> Ron
>>> 58 MGA
>>>
>>> John Kenner wrote:
>>>> Hello Fellow Club Members,
>>>>
>>>>  Just a reminder that I will be leading a ride the Sunday after
>>>>
>>>> Thanksgiving. We will meet at Bad Ass Coffee at 11am and depending on
>>>> the
>>
>>>> weather we'll take a nice ride somewhere.
>>>>
>>>> Probably you will be home by 2 or 3 pm. It will most likely
>>>>
>>>> be TR250 weather so the ride won't be terribly fast or bumpy.
>>>>
>>>>  Bring turkey sandwiches and a full tank of gas as I think we will be
>>>> having lunch in a remote location. More route
>>>>
>>>> information coming next week as the weather forecasts come in.
>>>>
>>>>  With 120+  members in this club I'd like to see a big turnout.
>>>>
>>>> If the weathers nice forget Football for a few hours and go for a ride.
>>>>
>>>>  JOHN KENNER
>>>>
>>>>  '66 Lotus Elan
>>>>
>>>> '72 Lotus Elan Plus 2 under construction.
>>>>
>>>> '68 TR 250
>>>>
>>>> '64 Triumph Herald almost back together
>>>>
>>>> '05 Mini Cooper S John Cooper Works ( should be illeagle )
>>>>
>>>> '05 BMW X5
>>>>
>>>> '05 Ford F250 Super Duty
>>>>
>>>> '04 Ford F150
>>>>
>>>> '05 Ford F350 15' Box Van
>>>>
>>>> '02 Ford F250 14' Box Van
>>>>
>>>> '01 Ford F250 14' Box Van
>>>>
>>>> 5 Acres
>>>>
>>>> 4 Dogs
>>>>
>>>> 3 Horses
>>>>
>>>> 2 Daughters
>>>>
>>>> 1 Wife for 36 years
>>>>
>>>>  510 231 6803 P
>>>>
>>>> 415 806 2457 C
>>>>
>>>> 510 231 6805 F
>>>>
>>>>  tamalpais_s
>>>>
>>>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name
>>>> of
>>
>>>> image001.gif]
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From mvg1 at att.net  Fri Nov 19 08:50:29 2010
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 07:50:29 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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	<3C8C6604493E477BB1A4203BD42DBB4C@williamsonPC>
Message-ID: <1BB637876D50476F899E17F9535BB13E@mike>

JRL Machine & Driveline in Petaluma. Excellent work.

Michael
64 TR4

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE


> Both are hard to find.  I wasn't really looking for a light weight, but as 
> luck would have it.  This one is new but will need to be refaced since it 
> sat around in the guys garage for about 10 years after he gave up on his 
> project.  Just a little surface rust.  Does anybody know a good shop for 
> this operation?  I think 10 microns is required.
> Thank,
> Clif  74 JH
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Kurt Housh" <klhoush at comcast.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:27 PM
> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
>
>> Yeah, the race shop in Berkeley wouldn't touch my flywheel. They told me 
>> to
>> get an aluminum version but they're hard to find.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] 
>> On
>> Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson
>> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:13 PM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
>>
>> Nope.  It is a new one that had about 6 pounds of steel removed.  I 
>> bought
>> it because my ring gear is worn and causing difficulty starting.  On the
>> last ride I was stuck beside the road and had to wait for everybody to 
>> get
>> buy so I could rock the car and move the flywheel backward so it would
>> engage with the starter.   The lost weight is just a bonus.
>> There is a lot of discussion on the JHPS website about lightened and
>> aluminum flywheels.  You will be surprised at the different opinions
>> regarding light weight flywheels.  Check it out.
>> Clif 74 JH
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Kurt Housh" <klhoush at comcast.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:13 PM
>> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
>>
>>> Hi Clif, is that an aluminum flywheel? I want one!
>>> Kurt
>>> '73 JH
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:46 PM
>>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
>>>
>>> Bummer.
>>> Be in LA for Thanksgiving.  Also picking up a light weight flywheel for
>>> the
>>> JH.
>>> Hope you guys have a good time and a great Thanksgiving.
>>> Clif
>>> 74 Jensen Healey
>>> PS.  Dawson.  Still have the paper work.
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:10 PM
>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
>>>
>>>> Thank you John! See you there. Let's hope for no rain!
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>> 58 MGA
>>>>
>>>> John Kenner wrote:
>>>>> Hello Fellow Club Members,
>>>>>
>>>>>  Just a reminder that I will be leading a ride the Sunday after
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanksgiving. We will meet at Bad Ass Coffee at 11am and depending on
>>>>> the
>>>
>>>>> weather we'll take a nice ride somewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably you will be home by 2 or 3 pm. It will most likely
>>>>>
>>>>> be TR250 weather so the ride won't be terribly fast or bumpy.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Bring turkey sandwiches and a full tank of gas as I think we will be
>>>>> having lunch in a remote location. More route
>>>>>
>>>>> information coming next week as the weather forecasts come in.
>>>>>
>>>>>  With 120+  members in this club I'd like to see a big turnout.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the weathers nice forget Football for a few hours and go for a 
>>>>> ride.
>>>>>
>>>>>  JOHN KENNER
>>>>>
>>>>>  '66 Lotus Elan
>>>>>
>>>>> '72 Lotus Elan Plus 2 under construction.
>>>>>
>>>>> '68 TR 250
>>>>>
>>>>> '64 Triumph Herald almost back together
>>>>>
>>>>> '05 Mini Cooper S John Cooper Works ( should be illeagle )
>>>>>
>>>>> '05 BMW X5
>>>>>
>>>>> '05 Ford F250 Super Duty
>>>>>
>>>>> '04 Ford F150
>>>>>
>>>>> '05 Ford F350 15' Box Van
>>>>>
>>>>> '02 Ford F250 14' Box Van
>>>>>
>>>>> '01 Ford F250 14' Box Van
>>>>>
>>>>> 5 Acres
>>>>>
>>>>> 4 Dogs
>>>>>
>>>>> 3 Horses
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 Daughters
>>>>>
>>>>> 1 Wife for 36 years
>>>>>
>>>>>  510 231 6803 P
>>>>>
>>>>> 415 806 2457 C
>>>>>
>>>>> 510 231 6805 F
>>>>>
>>>>>  tamalpais_s
>>>>>
>>>>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name
>>>>> of
>>>
>>>>> image001.gif]
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Fri Nov 19 09:12:14 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:12:14 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
In-Reply-To: <3C8C6604493E477BB1A4203BD42DBB4C@williamsonPC>
References: <008601cb8795$6cfa9730$46efc590$@com><4CE5EABE.1090004@sonic.net><6307BCF9FC294F2082628304DD4747B7@williamsonPC><12BA39F3A907444F8E255F1E1200356C@jensen><2CBB29CB8A6847B892C3CC2776CA06AE@williamsonPC>
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	<3C8C6604493E477BB1A4203BD42DBB4C@williamsonPC>
Message-ID: <4CE6A1DE.3080609@gmail.com>

  Clif,

Try JNW Engine http://jnweng.com/
Talk to Jerry and tell him Greg Tatarian with the Lotuses sent you. I 
put on a tech session at Jerry's shop last year for the NOBBC.

Not sure anyone's going to measure 10 microns - they are going to cut 
until the surface is smooth and flat, but you can ask him to go as 
lightly as possible. If it's just light surface rust, I would use a 
surface plate and 120-150 grit paper, myself, and save the $40  (at 
least for flywheels that have the friction surface level or raise above 
the surrounding portion).

Pros and cons of lightened steel vs. stock, vs. aluminum flywheels are 
generally not specific to any car make or model but are pretty uniform; 
lightened steel needs to be done properly or you can have it fly apart 
on you at high revs. Stock is fine, but heavy. Aluminum flywheels have 
to have the right design and treatment for the aluminum so that the 
steel flywheel face and surrounding aluminum material expand and 
contract much as a unit, and so the aluminum isn't too soft, and the 
replaceable steel insert has to be available for future replacements. 
Some don't like alu because it affects apparent torque, particularly 
with small, light motors coming off the line. Some poorly designed or 
made units have had problems with ring gear coming off (same problem of 
differential expansion rates, as well as different pinning methods). 
Lighter flywheels definitely make the motor more throttle responsive. 
Don't forget to check the tooth bevel of the ring gear on the new f/w 
matches the engagement of your starter (front or back), as we talked 
about in Napa.

Cheers,
Greg






On 11/18/2010 11:36 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>  Does anybody know a good shop for this operation?  I think 10 microns 
> is required.
> Thank,
> Clif  74 JH

From hawkview at sonic.net  Fri Nov 19 09:53:26 2010
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:53:26 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
In-Reply-To: <4CE6A1DE.3080609@gmail.com>
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Great info Greg.
The throttle response was one of the problems mentioned on JHPS (Jensen 
Healey Preservation Society).  Unless you are going to be racing there is 
not a really good reason to have a super lightweight flywheel.  Very twitchy 
and more difficult to control RPM since the engine can rev so much quicker 
with out the heavy anchor to turn.  Absolutely no gain in power, just 
torque, but with a price.
On the Jensen I think the weight savings with a modified stock flywheel is 6 
pounds, and with the aluminum about 11 pounds.  Stock is about 21 pounds.
And thanks Mike for the machine shop info.
Clif 74 Jensen Healey


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Greg Tatarian" <gtwincams at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:12 AM
To: <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

>  Clif,
>
> Try JNW Engine http://jnweng.com/
> Talk to Jerry and tell him Greg Tatarian with the Lotuses sent you. I put 
> on a tech session at Jerry's shop last year for the NOBBC.
>
> Not sure anyone's going to measure 10 microns - they are going to cut 
> until the surface is smooth and flat, but you can ask him to go as lightly 
> as possible. If it's just light surface rust, I would use a surface plate 
> and 120-150 grit paper, myself, and save the $40  (at least for flywheels 
> that have the friction surface level or raise above the surrounding 
> portion).
>
> Pros and cons of lightened steel vs. stock, vs. aluminum flywheels are 
> generally not specific to any car make or model but are pretty uniform; 
> lightened steel needs to be done properly or you can have it fly apart on 
> you at high revs. Stock is fine, but heavy. Aluminum flywheels have to 
> have the right design and treatment for the aluminum so that the steel 
> flywheel face and surrounding aluminum material expand and contract much 
> as a unit, and so the aluminum isn't too soft, and the replaceable steel 
> insert has to be available for future replacements. Some don't like alu 
> because it affects apparent torque, particularly with small, light motors 
> coming off the line. Some poorly designed or made units have had problems 
> with ring gear coming off (same problem of differential expansion rates, 
> as well as different pinning methods). Lighter flywheels definitely make 
> the motor more throttle responsive. Don't forget to check the tooth bevel 
> of the ring gear on the new f/w matches the engagement of your starter 
> (front or back), as we talked about in Napa.
>
> Cheers,
> Greg
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/18/2010 11:36 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>>  Does anybody know a good shop for this operation?  I think 10 microns is 
>> required.
>> Thank,
>> Clif  74 JH
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From rlmossholder at comcast.net  Fri Nov 19 12:18:02 2010
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:18:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
In-Reply-To: <98930655.1666437.1290193748233.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <756544763.1666955.1290194281982.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Still not finished with the Spitfire rebuild, but I used an aluminum flywheel. The throttle response is amazing. I can't wait to get it back on the road and see the difference all of the modifications have made. I would love to have it ready for the day after Turkey Day ride, but I don't have the time to finish it in a week. I'll try to get it together for the spring. The new babies have all of my attention now. 
Cheers, 
Rich M 
71 Spitfire 

From jkenner at tamcab.com  Fri Nov 19 12:51:56 2010
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 11:51:56 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE WITH THE TWINS
In-Reply-To: <756544763.1666955.1290194281982.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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	<756544763.1666955.1290194281982.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <00cf01cb8823$3a7d3c70$af77b550$@com>

TAKE THE TWINS ON THE TURKEY DAY RIDE.
BUNDLE THEM UP. YOU'RE NEVER TOO YOUNG TO START.

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806 2457 C
510 231 6805 F





-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of rlmossholder at comcast.net
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 11:18 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

Still not finished with the Spitfire rebuild, but I used an aluminum
flywheel. The throttle response is amazing. I can't wait to get it back on
the road and see the difference all of the modifications have made. I would
love to have it ready for the day after Turkey Day ride, but I don't have
the time to finish it in a week. I'll try to get it together for the spring.
The new babies have all of my attention now. 
Cheers, 
Rich M 
71 Spitfire 
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From wbain at sonic.net  Fri Nov 19 14:30:11 2010
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:30:11 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
In-Reply-To: <4CE6A1DE.3080609@gmail.com>
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	<D851FA185EEA491D9A6DD0ABB2B5E488@jensen>
	<3C8C6604493E477BB1A4203BD42DBB4C@williamsonPC>
	<4CE6A1DE.3080609@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <86DA1615-FF71-4741-9026-94CB56B65CF1@sonic.net>

Clif,

Greg's advice on using 120-150 grit paper is good. If it's just  
surface rust
it should give you a usable f/w.

Cheers,
Wendell

On Nov 19, 2010, at 8:12 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote:

>  Clif,
>
> Try JNW Engine http://jnweng.com/
> Talk to Jerry and tell him Greg Tatarian with the Lotuses sent you.  
> I put on a tech session at Jerry's shop last year for the NOBBC.
>
> Not sure anyone's going to measure 10 microns - they are going to  
> cut until the surface is smooth and flat, but you can ask him to go  
> as lightly as possible. If it's just light surface rust, I would  
> use a surface plate and 120-150 grit paper, myself, and save the  
> $40  (at least for flywheels that have the friction surface level  
> or raise above the surrounding portion).
>
> Pros and cons of lightened steel vs. stock, vs. aluminum flywheels  
> are generally not specific to any car make or model but are pretty  
> uniform; lightened steel needs to be done properly or you can have  
> it fly apart on you at high revs. Stock is fine, but heavy.  
> Aluminum flywheels have to have the right design and treatment for  
> the aluminum so that the steel flywheel face and surrounding  
> aluminum material expand and contract much as a unit, and so the  
> aluminum isn't too soft, and the replaceable steel insert has to be  
> available for future replacements. Some don't like alu because it  
> affects apparent torque, particularly with small, light motors  
> coming off the line. Some poorly designed or made units have had  
> problems with ring gear coming off (same problem of differential  
> expansion rates, as well as different pinning methods). Lighter  
> flywheels definitely make the motor more throttle responsive. Don't  
> forget to check the tooth bevel of the ring gear on the new f/w  
> matches the engagement of your starter (front or back), as we  
> talked about in Napa.
>
> Cheers,
> Greg
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/18/2010 11:36 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>>  Does anybody know a good shop for this operation?  I think 10  
>> microns is required.
>> Thank,
>> Clif  74 JH
> _______________________________________________
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Fri Nov 19 16:43:01 2010
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:43:01 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
In-Reply-To: <86DA1615-FF71-4741-9026-94CB56B65CF1@sonic.net>
References: <008601cb8795$6cfa9730$46efc590$@com><4CE5EABE.1090004@sonic.net><6307BCF9FC294F2082628304DD4747B7@williamsonPC><12BA39F3A907444F8E255F1E1200356C@jensen><2CBB29CB8A6847B892C3CC2776CA06AE@williamsonPC><D851FA185EEA491D9A6DD0ABB2B5E488@jensen><3C8C6604493E477BB1A4203BD42DBB4C@williamsonPC><4CE6A1DE.3080609@gmail.com>
	<86DA1615-FF71-4741-9026-94CB56B65CF1@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <411C77FE103B4ECEA885ED1B61DF02C8@williamsonPC>

Thanks for the info.  I am not sure yet how bad it is.
Here is sellers description:
flywheel 3 pounds lighter and rebalanced plus clutch area resurfaced by 
professional speed shop in reseda california.
labor cost me 120 $. resurfaced clutch area has little surface rust ,should 
have  no impact on clutch performance. tooth wheel in excellent condition.
I know for sure a stock flywheel is 21 pounds and will weight the new one 
next week when I get it.
And defined condition:
New: A brand-new, unused, unopened, undamaged item in its original 
packaging.
So I assume it is new and modified.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "wendell bain" <wbain at sonic.net>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 1:30 PM
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

> Clif,
>
> Greg's advice on using 120-150 grit paper is good. If it's just  surface 
> rust
> it should give you a usable f/w.
>
> Cheers,
> Wendell
>
> On Nov 19, 2010, at 8:12 AM, Greg Tatarian wrote:
>
>>  Clif,
>>
>> Try JNW Engine http://jnweng.com/
>> Talk to Jerry and tell him Greg Tatarian with the Lotuses sent you.  I 
>> put on a tech session at Jerry's shop last year for the NOBBC.
>>
>> Not sure anyone's going to measure 10 microns - they are going to  cut 
>> until the surface is smooth and flat, but you can ask him to go  as 
>> lightly as possible. If it's just light surface rust, I would  use a 
>> surface plate and 120-150 grit paper, myself, and save the  $40  (at 
>> least for flywheels that have the friction surface level  or raise above 
>> the surrounding portion).
>>
>> Pros and cons of lightened steel vs. stock, vs. aluminum flywheels  are 
>> generally not specific to any car make or model but are pretty  uniform; 
>> lightened steel needs to be done properly or you can have  it fly apart 
>> on you at high revs. Stock is fine, but heavy.  Aluminum flywheels have 
>> to have the right design and treatment for  the aluminum so that the 
>> steel flywheel face and surrounding  aluminum material expand and 
>> contract much as a unit, and so the  aluminum isn't too soft, and the 
>> replaceable steel insert has to be  available for future replacements. 
>> Some don't like alu because it  affects apparent torque, particularly 
>> with small, light motors  coming off the line. Some poorly designed or 
>> made units have had  problems with ring gear coming off (same problem of 
>> differential  expansion rates, as well as different pinning methods). 
>> Lighter  flywheels definitely make the motor more throttle responsive. 
>> Don't  forget to check the tooth bevel of the ring gear on the new f/w 
>> matches the engagement of your starter (front or back), as we  talked 
>> about in Napa.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/18/2010 11:36 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>>>  Does anybody know a good shop for this operation?  I think 10  microns 
>>> is required.
>>> Thank,
>>> Clif  74 JH
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Fri Nov 19 16:45:01 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:45:01 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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  CONTRATULATIONS, RICH!!
Enjoy your little babies!
Cheers,
Greg



On 11/19/2010 11:18 AM, rlmossholder at comcast.net wrote:
> Still not finished with the Spitfire rebuild, but I used an aluminum flywheel. The throttle response is amazing. I can't wait to get it back on the road and see the difference all of the modifications have made. I would love to have it ready for the day after Turkey Day ride, but I don't have the time to finish it in a week. I'll try to get it together for the spring. The new babies have all of my attention now.
> Cheers,
> Rich M
> 71 Spitfire
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From rlmossholder at comcast.net  Fri Nov 19 16:47:11 2010
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 23:47:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE WITH THE TWINS
In-Reply-To: <00cf01cb8823$3a7d3c70$af77b550$@com>
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Hi John, 
I'd love to, but it's a little too soon for them. They're only a month old. 
Cheers, 
Rich 

From jkenner at tamcab.com  Fri Nov 19 17:05:17 2010
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:05:17 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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DON'T FORGET I HAVE THAT SET OF STROMBERGS I TOOK OFF THE LOTUS
PLUS REBUILD KITS AND AIR CLEANERS

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806 2457 C
510 231 6805 F





-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 3:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

  CONTRATULATIONS, RICH!!
Enjoy your little babies!
Cheers,
Greg



On 11/19/2010 11:18 AM, rlmossholder at comcast.net wrote:
> Still not finished with the Spitfire rebuild, but I used an aluminum
flywheel. The throttle response is amazing. I can't wait to get it back on
the road and see the difference all of the modifications have made. I would
love to have it ready for the day after Turkey Day ride, but I don't have
the time to finish it in a week. I'll try to get it together for the spring.
The new babies have all of my attention now.
> Cheers,
> Rich M
> 71 Spitfire
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Fri Nov 19 17:16:56 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (gtwincams at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 00:16:56 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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References: <756544763.1666955.1290194281982.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><4CE70BFD.5080407@gmail.com><014301cb8846$9e3590f0$daa0b2d0$@com>
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Not the best match for a Spit without modifications, John; Elan ZS have only one choke, different needles, but can be adapted.
You selling the rebuild kits?
Greg
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Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

DON'T FORGET I HAVE THAT SET OF STROMBERGS I TOOK OFF THE LOTUS
PLUS REBUILD KITS AND AIR CLEANERS

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806 2457 C
510 231 6805 F





-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 3:45 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

  CONTRATULATIONS, RICH!!
Enjoy your little babies!
Cheers,
Greg



On 11/19/2010 11:18 AM, rlmossholder at comcast.net wrote:
> Still not finished with the Spitfire rebuild, but I used an aluminum
flywheel. The throttle response is amazing. I can't wait to get it back on
the road and see the difference all of the modifications have made. I would
love to have it ready for the day after Turkey Day ride, but I don't have
the time to finish it in a week. I'll try to get it together for the spring.
The new babies have all of my attention now.
> Cheers,
> Rich M
> 71 Spitfire
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Fri Nov 19 17:23:09 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (gtwincams at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 00:23:09 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] Greatest ever
Message-ID: <mailman.40.1290212565.22015.nobbc@autox.team.net>

December issue of Classic and Sports Car has a cool supplement - Greatest Ever Driver's Cars. Worth checking out.
Cheers,
Greg Tatarian

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From markdarley at mac.com  Fri Nov 19 17:32:15 2010
From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:32:15 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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Rich,
Congratulations!  With twins (especially boys?) you might want to  
trade the Spitfire for one of these; AEC Routemaster
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Routemaster

Mark Darley
markdarley at mac.com
Mobile Phone 415 310 5252



On Nov 19, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Greg Tatarian wrote:

>  CONTRATULATIONS, RICH!!
> Enjoy your little babies!
> Cheers,
> Greg
>
>
>
> On 11/19/2010 11:18 AM, rlmossholder at comcast.net wrote:
>> Still not finished with the Spitfire rebuild, but I used an  
>> aluminum flywheel. The throttle response is amazing. I can't wait  
>> to get it back on the road and see the difference all of the  
>> modifications have made. I would love to have it ready for the day  
>> after Turkey Day ride, but I don't have the time to finish it in a  
>> week. I'll try to get it together for the spring. The new babies  
>> have all of my attention now.
>> Cheers,
>> Rich M
>> 71 Spitfire
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Fri Nov 19 18:04:22 2010
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:04:22 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
In-Reply-To: <20101120002626.289071878A4@autox.team.net>
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THOUGHT I'D PUT THE WHOLE THING ON EBAY AS A SET

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806 2457 C
510 231 6805 F





-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of gtwincams at gmail.com
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 4:17 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

Not the best match for a Spit without modifications, John; Elan ZS have only
one choke, different needles, but can be adapted.
You selling the rebuild kits?
Greg
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-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

DON'T FORGET I HAVE THAT SET OF STROMBERGS I TOOK OFF THE LOTUS
PLUS REBUILD KITS AND AIR CLEANERS

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806 2457 C
510 231 6805 F





-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 3:45 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

  CONTRATULATIONS, RICH!!
Enjoy your little babies!
Cheers,
Greg



On 11/19/2010 11:18 AM, rlmossholder at comcast.net wrote:
> Still not finished with the Spitfire rebuild, but I used an aluminum
flywheel. The throttle response is amazing. I can't wait to get it back on
the road and see the difference all of the modifications have made. I would
love to have it ready for the day after Turkey Day ride, but I don't have
the time to finish it in a week. I'll try to get it together for the spring.
The new babies have all of my attention now.
> Cheers,
> Rich M
> 71 Spitfire
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From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Fri Nov 19 18:29:47 2010
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (Andrew Preston)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:29:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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Cliff, I use Norm's Auto Machine shop in Petaluma for all my machine work. 
He's 
very good and reasonable prices.  He's basically a one man shop so
you're 
dealing with him and not some school kid.  He's been in business for
around 30 
to 40 years and could reface your flywheel easily.  He can also fit
the ring 
gear.

Andy




________________________________
From: Clif &
Deborah Williamson <hawkview at sonic.net>
To: North Bay British Car Club
<nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 11:36:33 PM
Subject: Re:
[Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

Both are hard to find.  I wasn't really looking for
a light weight, but as 
luck would have it.  This one is new but will need to
be refaced since it 
sat around in the guys garage for about 10 years after he
gave up on his 
project.  Just a little surface rust.  Does anybody know a
good shop for 
this operation?  I think 10 microns is required.
Thank,
Clif 
74 JH

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Kurt Housh"
<klhoush at comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:27 PM
To: "'North
Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc]
THANKSGIVING RIDE

> Yeah, the race shop in Berkeley wouldn't touch my
flywheel. They told me 
> to
> get an aluminum version but they're hard to
find.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] 
> On
> Behalf Of Clif & Deborah
Williamson
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:13 PM
> To: North Bay
British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
>
> Nope.  It is a
new one that had about 6 pounds of steel removed.  I bought
> it because my
ring gear is worn and causing difficulty starting.  On the
> last ride I was
stuck beside the road and had to wait for everybody to get
> buy so I could
rock the car and move the flywheel backward so it would
> engage with the
starter.  The lost weight is just a bonus.
> There is a lot of discussion on
the JHPS website about lightened and
> aluminum flywheels.  You will be
surprised at the different opinions
> regarding light weight flywheels.  Check
it out.
> Clif 74 JH
>
> --------------------------------------------------
>
From: "Kurt Housh" <klhoush at comcast.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010
9:13 PM
> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Subject:
Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
>
>> Hi Clif, is that an aluminum flywheel? I
want one!
>> Kurt
>> '73 JH
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:
nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
>> On
>>
Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson
>> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:46
PM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
>>
>> Bummer.
>> Be in LA for Thanksgiving.  Also picking up a light weight
flywheel for
>> the
>> JH.
>> Hope you guys have a good time and a great
Thanksgiving.
>> Clif
>> 74 Jensen Healey
>> PS.  Dawson.  Still have the
paper work.
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From:
"Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:10
PM
>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re:
[Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
>>
>>> Thank you John! See you there. Let's hope for
no rain!
>>>
>>> Ron
>>> 58 MGA
>>>
>>> John Kenner wrote:
>>>> Hello Fellow
Club Members,
>>>>
>>>>  Just a reminder that I will be leading a ride the
Sunday after
>>>>
>>>> Thanksgiving. We will meet at Bad Ass Coffee at 11am
and depending on
>>>> the
>>
>>>> weather we'll take a nice ride somewhere.
>>>>
>>>> Probably you will be home by 2 or 3 pm. It will most likely
>>>>
>>>> be TR250 weather so the ride won't be terribly fast or bumpy.
>>>>
>>>> 
Bring turkey sandwiches and a full tank of gas as I think we will be
>>>>
having lunch in a remote location. More route
>>>>
>>>> information coming
next week as the weather forecasts come in.
>>>>
>>>>  With 120+  members in
this club I'd like to see a big turnout.
>>>>
>>>> If the weathers nice forget
Football for a few hours and go for a ride.
>>>>
>>>>  JOHN KENNER
>>>>
>>>> 
'66 Lotus Elan
>>>>
>>>> '72 Lotus Elan Plus 2 under construction.
>>>>
>>>>
'68 TR 250
>>>>
>>>> '64 Triumph Herald almost back together
>>>>
>>>> '05
Mini Cooper S John Cooper Works ( should be illeagle )
>>>>
>>>> '05 BMW X5
>>>>
>>>> '05 Ford F250 Super Duty
>>>>
>>>> '04 Ford F150
>>>>
>>>> '05 Ford
F350 15' Box Van
>>>>
>>>> '02 Ford F250 14' Box Van
>>>>
>>>> '01 Ford F250
14' Box Van
>>>>
>>>> 5 Acres
>>>>
>>>> 4 Dogs
>>>>
>>>> 3 Horses
>>>>
>>>> 2
Daughters
>>>>
>>>> 1 Wife for 36 years
>>>>
>>>>  510 231 6803 P
>>>>
>>>>
415 806 2457 C
>>>>
>>>> 510 231 6805 F
>>>>
>>>>  tamalpais_s
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> of
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Fri Nov 19 18:32:41 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:32:41 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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	<9BB0D3D7-428B-44B6-B576-88BFB3C072AF@mac.com>
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We could fit the whole club on one of these!

Ron
58 MGA

Mark Darley wrote:
> Rich,
> Congratulations!  With twins (especially boys?) you might want to  trade 
> the Spitfire for one of these; AEC Routemaster
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Routemaster
> 
> Mark Darley
> markdarley at mac.com
> Mobile Phone 415 310 5252

From rlmossholder at comcast.net  Fri Nov 19 19:36:41 2010
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 02:36:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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John, 
I already have a Weber 45 DCOE that I rebuilt. 

Greg, 
The engine is about as modified as I dare. High compression flat top pistons, mild/hot street cam, aluminum flywheel, electronic ignition, ported & polished head with roller rockers... 
I think it is going to be a real screamer! I have to redo the exhaust, though. It was loud to begin with, but now it's unbearable. Sounds like It should only be on the track. I'm estimating with all the mods to have about 100hp, which is a considerable gain over the stock 72hp. 
Still have to finish the wiring, tune the new suspension, install the new drive shaft, and install the new interior and stereo. 

Cheers, 
Rich 

From gtwincams at gmail.com  Sat Nov 20 06:44:35 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 05:44:35 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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Wow, Rich! That's gonna be nice.
I was referring to modifying the carbs used on an Elan if they were 
fitted to a Spitfire. One thing I didn't mention is that the size is 
larger as well, but that could be just the ticket for a hot Spitfire 
engine if the manifold can also be enlarged for the larger venturi size 
of the CD175s. The Weber is a more common upgrade however, and will give 
you gobs of power. What venturi, jets, air correctors and e-tubes are 
you using for that engine build?
Looks like you've got a trip to Johnny Franklin's in your future - 
nothing like a screaming loud exhaust to make you want to get out of the 
car after 45 minutes or so...
Cheers,
Greg




On 11/19/2010 6:36 PM, rlmossholder at comcast.net wrote:
> Greg,
> The engine is about as modified as I dare. High compression flat top pistons, mild/hot street cam, aluminum flywheel, electronic ignition, ported&  polished head with roller rockers...
> I think it is going to be a real screamer! I have to redo the exhaust, though. It was loud to begin with, but now it's unbearable. Sounds like It should only be on the track. I'm estimating with all the mods to have about 100hp, which is a considerable gain over the stock 72hp.
> Still have to finish the wiring, tune the new suspension, install the new drive shaft, and install the new interior and stereo.
>
> Cheers,
> Rich

From rlmossholder at comcast.net  Sat Nov 20 07:54:17 2010
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:54:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
In-Reply-To: <4CE7D0C3.1030909@gmail.com>
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Greg,

I will have to look at my notes for the specs on the carb. I ordered all of
the parts through Pierce Manifolds. They asked me for all of the specs on the
engine rebuild and punched those numbers in to their computer and it spit out
the proper part #'s. When I rebuilt the carb, all the parts fit fine and the
engine fired right up. We ran it in through various RPM's with no load and
after a little tweaking it performed beautifully. I think if I were to use
multiple carbs I would go with a set from PRI Race. Chris Cancelli has
developed a set of 4 motorcycle carbs and a manifold as a kit for the
Spitfire. I used his full coil over suspension kit (front and rear) on my car.
Really nice kit, got rid of the transverse leaf spring and hopefully all of
the handling problems that it caused. I was pressed for time and he hand
delivered the suspension parts to my Dad's shop in Crescent City! Now that's
what I call service! He also makes parts for Alfa Romeos. Here's their
website: www.prirace.com

Cheers,
Rich

From sarto477 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 20 11:38:32 2010
From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:38:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
In-Reply-To: <1052047754.1696703.1290264857125.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <536347.95497.qm@web113516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Rich, Chris at PRI race, was going to add his carb setup to my Spitfire but
I sold it for the Lotus before the we made the switch.  A few years ago, he
said that he has made the same setup for a Lotus Europa twin-cam and could do
Elans. Keith Franck has my webers purring with his new jetting and E-tubes.
 He has new mods coming for even better improvements.  To bad we can not post
photos here but if you go to my web site you will see my 1970 spitfire with
Miata seats with a T9 5 speed conversion.  
http://knockoffspinnertool.com/photo_gallery
Sold it after I finished a restoration with only 300 miles on it for the Lotus
Elan.  Wish I had the space I would have kept the Spitfire.  I still have some
parts, like a new glove box that may not not fit yours??  give me a call
481-6700Gregs suggestion to go the Johnny Franklin muffler is where I got him
to do a couple of changes and got my noise level controlled and I still can
hear the weber when I am on it. And he is real reasonable.Sarto

--- On Sat, 11/20/10, rlmossholder at comcast.net <rlmossholder at comcast.net>
wrote:

From: rlmossholder at comcast.net <rlmossholder at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 6:54 AM

Greg,

I will have to look at my notes for the specs on the carb. I ordered all of
the parts through Pierce Manifolds. They asked me for all of the specs on the
engine rebuild and punched those numbers in to their computer and it spit out
the proper part #'s. When I rebuilt the carb, all the parts fit fine and the
engine fired right up. We ran it in through various RPM's with no load and
after a little tweaking it performed beautifully. I think if I were to use
multiple carbs I would go with a set from PRI Race. Chris Cancelli has
developed a set of 4 motorcycle carbs and a manifold as a kit for the
Spitfire. I used his full coil over suspension kit (front and rear) on my
car.
Really nice kit, got rid of the transverse leaf spring and hopefully all of
the handling problems that it caused. I was pressed for time and he hand
delivered the suspension parts to my Dad's shop in Crescent City! Now that's
what I call service! He also makes parts for Alfa Romeos. Here's their
website: www.prirace.com

Cheers,
Rich
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From rlmossholder at comcast.net  Sat Nov 20 12:50:00 2010
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:50:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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Sarto, 

I've used Johnny Franklins for years and have always had a great experience. They shortened my drive shaft to accommodate the O/D transmission and will be working on the exhaust again when I get the car running. I will also have them do the alignment. It's almost a one stop shop, and the folks there are familiar with LBC's. I am really looking forward to getting it back on the road and going on some rides again. 

Cheers, 
Rich 

From wbain at sonic.net  Sat Nov 20 13:04:01 2010
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:04:01 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Greatest ever
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Greg,

Very good supplement to C&SC.... And next month we get a calendar.

Cheers,

Wendell

On Nov 19, 2010, at 4:23 PM, gtwincams at gmail.com wrote:

> December issue of Classic and Sports Car has a cool supplement -  
> Greatest Ever Driver's Cars. Worth checking out.
> Cheers,
> Greg Tatarian
>
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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From rlmossholder at comcast.net  Sat Nov 20 13:05:40 2010
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:05:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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Sarto, 

I looked at the photos on your website. You had a beautiful Spitfire! I'd like to get some more info on the Miata seat conversion. I scrolled through your photos and I saw a car that I have always wanted... a Triumph Italia. That is IMHO one of the most beautiful cars ever built. Brilliant Italian styling with British simplicity. 

Cheers, 
Rich 

From jkenner at tamcab.com  Sat Nov 20 13:42:36 2010
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:42:36 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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Rich,

I put Miata seats I my Elan.
You go to the junk yard and pick them up cheap,$175 for the pair in my case,
and they come with the runners attached. you just drill some new holes and
bolt
them in and your done. You can usually get them with speakers in the
headrest
for better sound from your stereo too!

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806 2457 C
510 231 6805 F





-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of rlmossholder at comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 12:06 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

Sarto, 

I looked at the photos on your website. You had a beautiful Spitfire! I'd
like to get some more info on the Miata seat conversion. I scrolled through
your photos and I saw a car that I have always wanted... a Triumph Italia.
That is IMHO one of the most beautiful cars ever built. Brilliant Italian
styling with British simplicity. 

Cheers, 
Rich 
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Sat Nov 20 14:02:56 2010
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:02:56 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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Sarto.  Please tell me a bit about PRI Race.   Machine shop, speed shop, 
rebuild shop, tune shop?  Do they have a dyno?
Thanks,
Clif  74 JH

-----Original Message----- 
From: Sarto Rocheleau
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 10:38 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

Hi Rich, Chris at PRI race, was going to add his carb setup to my Spitfire 
but
I sold it for the Lotus before the we made the switch.  A few years ago, he
said that he has made the same setup for a Lotus Europa twin-cam and could 
do
Elans. Keith Franck has my webers purring with his new jetting and E-tubes.
He has new mods coming for even better improvements.  To bad we can not post
photos here but if you go to my web site you will see my 1970 spitfire with
Miata seats with a T9 5 speed conversion.
http://knockoffspinnertool.com/photo_gallery
Sold it after I finished a restoration with only 300 miles on it for the 
Lotus
Elan.  Wish I had the space I would have kept the Spitfire.  I still have 
some
parts, like a new glove box that may not not fit yours??  give me a call
481-6700Gregs suggestion to go the Johnny Franklin muffler is where I got 
him
to do a couple of changes and got my noise level controlled and I still can
hear the weber when I am on it. And he is real reasonable.Sarto

--- On Sat, 11/20/10, rlmossholder at comcast.net <rlmossholder at comcast.net>
wrote:

From: rlmossholder at comcast.net <rlmossholder at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 6:54 AM

Greg,

I will have to look at my notes for the specs on the carb. I ordered all of
the parts through Pierce Manifolds. They asked me for all of the specs on 
the
engine rebuild and punched those numbers in to their computer and it spit 
out
the proper part #'s. When I rebuilt the carb, all the parts fit fine and the
engine fired right up. We ran it in through various RPM's with no load and
after a little tweaking it performed beautifully. I think if I were to use
multiple carbs I would go with a set from PRI Race. Chris Cancelli has
developed a set of 4 motorcycle carbs and a manifold as a kit for the
Spitfire. I used his full coil over suspension kit (front and rear) on my
car.
Really nice kit, got rid of the transverse leaf spring and hopefully all of
the handling problems that it caused. I was pressed for time and he hand
delivered the suspension parts to my Dad's shop in Crescent City! Now that's
what I call service! He also makes parts for Alfa Romeos. Here's their
website: www.prirace.com

Cheers,
Rich
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From rlmossholder at comcast.net  Sat Nov 20 14:35:25 2010
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:35:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
In-Reply-To: <002101cb88f3$77b0ff70$6712fe50$@com>
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Good to know. Thanks John 
If I can find a set of Miata seats, I'll have a set of tan leather Spitfire seats for sale. Shouldn't be too hard to find a buyer. 
Rich 

ast.net 

From hawkview at sonic.net  Sat Nov 20 15:08:58 2010
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:08:58 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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Are the Miata seats heated?

-----Original Message----- 
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 1:35 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

Good to know. Thanks John
If I can find a set of Miata seats, I'll have a set of tan leather Spitfire 
seats for sale. Shouldn't be too hard to find a buyer.
Rich

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From sarto477 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 20 15:19:00 2010
From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:19:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
In-Reply-To: <26805BA017B54F0F8A404F3AA20EF09A@williamsonPC>
Message-ID: <587477.7118.qm@web113508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Clif, here is his web site and it looks all new.  He will be able to answer
your questions.Hope that helps.Sarto

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From: Clif & Deborah Williamson <hawkview at sonic.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 1:02 PM

Sarto.  Please tell me a bit about PRI Race.   Machine shop, speed shop,
rebuild shop, tune shop?  Do they have a dyno?
Thanks,
Clif  74 JH

-----Original Message----- From: Sarto Rocheleau
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 10:38 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

Hi Rich, Chris at PRI race, was going to add his carb setup to my Spitfire
but
I sold it for the Lotus before the we made the switch.  A few years ago, he
said that he has made the same setup for a Lotus Europa twin-cam and could do
Elans. Keith Franck has my webers purring with his new jetting and E-tubes.
He has new mods coming for even better improvements.  To bad we can not post
photos here but if you go to my web site you will see my 1970 spitfire with
Miata seats with a T9 5 speed conversion.
http://knockoffspinnertool.com/photo_gallery
Sold it after I finished a restoration with only 300 miles on it for the
Lotus
Elan.  Wish I had the space I would have kept the Spitfire.  I still have
some
parts, like a new glove box that may not not fit yours??  give me a call
481-6700Gregs suggestion to go the Johnny Franklin muffler is where I got him
to do a couple of changes and got my noise level controlled and I still can
hear the weber when I am on it. And he is real reasonable.Sarto

--- On Sat, 11/20/10, rlmossholder at comcast.net <rlmossholder at comcast.net>
wrote:

From: rlmossholder at comcast.net <rlmossholder at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 6:54 AM

Greg,

I will have to look at my notes for the specs on the carb. I ordered all of
the parts through Pierce Manifolds. They asked me for all of the specs on the
engine rebuild and punched those numbers in to their computer and it spit out
the proper part #'s. When I rebuilt the carb, all the parts fit fine and the
engine fired right up. We ran it in through various RPM's with no load and
after a little tweaking it performed beautifully. I think if I were to use
multiple carbs I would go with a set from PRI Race. Chris Cancelli has
developed a set of 4 motorcycle carbs and a manifold as a kit for the
Spitfire. I used his full coil over suspension kit (front and rear) on my
car.
Really nice kit, got rid of the transverse leaf spring and hopefully all of
the handling problems that it caused. I was pressed for time and he hand
delivered the suspension parts to my Dad's shop in Crescent City! Now that's
what I call service! He also makes parts for Alfa Romeos. Here's their
website: www.prirace.com

Cheers,
Rich
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From sarto477 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 20 15:26:51 2010
From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:26:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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Rich, the owner of the Italia 200 made it to the top 20 list runoff in the New
York times car awards a year or two ago.
 Sarto
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From: rlmossholder at comcast.net <rlmossholder at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 12:05 PM

Sarto,

I looked at the photos on your website. You had a beautiful Spitfire! I'd like
to get some more info on the Miata seat conversion. I scrolled through your
photos and I saw a car that I have always wanted... a Triumph Italia. That is
IMHO one of the most beautiful cars ever built. Brilliant Italian styling with
British simplicity.

Cheers,
Rich
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From sarto477 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 20 16:26:48 2010
From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 15:26:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
In-Reply-To: <308353873.1708687.1290288925237.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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Hi Rich, I found mine seats on E-bay. They were mint leather and I won them
for about $150.00 for both, delivered.  I was in the right place at the right
time.They did sit a little high and I was told to take some of the padding
out.  I didn't and made adjustments to how the runners attached to the floor
and kept all of the padded comfort of the seats. 
Sarto

--- On Sat, 11/20/10, rlmossholder at comcast.net <rlmossholder at comcast.net>
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From: rlmossholder at comcast.net <rlmossholder at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 1:35 PM

Good to know. Thanks John
If I can find a set of Miata seats, I'll have a set of tan leather Spitfire
seats for sale. Shouldn't be too hard to find a buyer.
Rich

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From sarto477 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 20 16:29:03 2010
From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 15:29:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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Mine were not heated nor did they have the speakers in the headrest.  They
were from the earlier Miata.Sarto

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Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 2:08 PM

Are the Miata seats heated?

-----Original Message----- From: rlmossholder at comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 1:35 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

Good to know. Thanks John
If I can find a set of Miata seats, I'll have a set of tan leather Spitfire
seats for sale. Shouldn't be too hard to find a buyer.
Rich

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From sarto477 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 20 17:32:33 2010
From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:32:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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Sorry Clif, I did not post PRI Race web site---- http://www.prirace.com/
Sarto

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From: Clif & Deborah Williamson <hawkview at sonic.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 1:02 PM

Sarto.  Please tell me a bit about PRI Race.   Machine shop, speed shop,
rebuild shop, tune shop?  Do they have a dyno?
Thanks,
Clif  74 JH

-----Original Message----- From: Sarto Rocheleau
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 10:38 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

Hi Rich, Chris at PRI race, was going to add his carb setup to my Spitfire
but
I sold it for the Lotus before the we made the switch.  A few years ago, he
said that he has made the same setup for a Lotus Europa twin-cam and could do
Elans. Keith Franck has my webers purring with his new jetting and E-tubes.
He has new mods coming for even better improvements.  To bad we can not post
photos here but if you go to my web site you will see my 1970 spitfire with
Miata seats with a T9 5 speed conversion.
http://knockoffspinnertool.com/photo_gallery
Sold it after I finished a restoration with only 300 miles on it for the
Lotus
Elan.  Wish I had the space I would have kept the Spitfire.  I still have
some
parts, like a new glove box that may not not fit yours??  give me a call
481-6700Gregs suggestion to go the Johnny Franklin muffler is where I got him
to do a couple of changes and got my noise level controlled and I still can
hear the weber when I am on it. And he is real reasonable.Sarto

--- On Sat, 11/20/10, rlmossholder at comcast.net <rlmossholder at comcast.net>
wrote:

From: rlmossholder at comcast.net <rlmossholder at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 6:54 AM

Greg,

I will have to look at my notes for the specs on the carb. I ordered all of
the parts through Pierce Manifolds. They asked me for all of the specs on the
engine rebuild and punched those numbers in to their computer and it spit out
the proper part #'s. When I rebuilt the carb, all the parts fit fine and the
engine fired right up. We ran it in through various RPM's with no load and
after a little tweaking it performed beautifully. I think if I were to use
multiple carbs I would go with a set from PRI Race. Chris Cancelli has
developed a set of 4 motorcycle carbs and a manifold as a kit for the
Spitfire. I used his full coil over suspension kit (front and rear) on my
car.
Really nice kit, got rid of the transverse leaf spring and hopefully all of
the handling problems that it caused. I was pressed for time and he hand
delivered the suspension parts to my Dad's shop in Crescent City! Now that's
what I call service! He also makes parts for Alfa Romeos. Here's their
website: www.prirace.com

Cheers,
Rich
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Sat Nov 20 17:53:55 2010
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:53:55 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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Anybody have good recommendations for seat cushions.  The upholstry is fine, 
but the foam is 36 years old and feels like it.  Also need the trunk done.
Thanks,
Clif  1974 JH


-----Original Message----- 
From: Sarto Rocheleau
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 4:32 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

Sorry Clif, I did not post PRI Race web site---- http://www.prirace.com/
Sarto

--- On Sat, 11/20/10, Clif & Deborah Williamson <hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:

From: Clif & Deborah Williamson <hawkview at sonic.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 1:02 PM

Sarto.  Please tell me a bit about PRI Race.   Machine shop, speed shop,
rebuild shop, tune shop?  Do they have a dyno?
Thanks,
Clif  74 JH

-----Original Message----- From: Sarto Rocheleau
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 10:38 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

Hi Rich, Chris at PRI race, was going to add his carb setup to my Spitfire
but
I sold it for the Lotus before the we made the switch.  A few years ago, he
said that he has made the same setup for a Lotus Europa twin-cam and could 
do
Elans. Keith Franck has my webers purring with his new jetting and E-tubes.
He has new mods coming for even better improvements.  To bad we can not post
photos here but if you go to my web site you will see my 1970 spitfire with
Miata seats with a T9 5 speed conversion.
http://knockoffspinnertool.com/photo_gallery
Sold it after I finished a restoration with only 300 miles on it for the
Lotus
Elan.  Wish I had the space I would have kept the Spitfire.  I still have
some
parts, like a new glove box that may not not fit yours??  give me a call
481-6700Gregs suggestion to go the Johnny Franklin muffler is where I got 
him
to do a couple of changes and got my noise level controlled and I still can
hear the weber when I am on it. And he is real reasonable.Sarto

--- On Sat, 11/20/10, rlmossholder at comcast.net <rlmossholder at comcast.net>
wrote:

From: rlmossholder at comcast.net <rlmossholder at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 6:54 AM

Greg,

I will have to look at my notes for the specs on the carb. I ordered all of
the parts through Pierce Manifolds. They asked me for all of the specs on 
the
engine rebuild and punched those numbers in to their computer and it spit 
out
the proper part #'s. When I rebuilt the carb, all the parts fit fine and the
engine fired right up. We ran it in through various RPM's with no load and
after a little tweaking it performed beautifully. I think if I were to use
multiple carbs I would go with a set from PRI Race. Chris Cancelli has
developed a set of 4 motorcycle carbs and a manifold as a kit for the
Spitfire. I used his full coil over suspension kit (front and rear) on my
car.
Really nice kit, got rid of the transverse leaf spring and hopefully all of
the handling problems that it caused. I was pressed for time and he hand
delivered the suspension parts to my Dad's shop in Crescent City! Now that's
what I call service! He also makes parts for Alfa Romeos. Here's their
website: www.prirace.com

Cheers,
Rich
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From sarto477 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 20 19:07:51 2010
From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:07:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
In-Reply-To: <75237D5AEE8F4392B901CE1CECC58C8E@williamsonPC>
Message-ID: <583556.83607.qm@web113519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi again Clif, MG Upholstery located at 499 Mountain View Avenue, Santa Rosa,
CA 95407-8256  707-585-6008She did my Lotus doors, truck,  headliner and
replaced only the foam in my 44 year old original seats.  Sarto
--- On Sat, 11/20/10, Clif & Deborah Williamson <hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:

From: Clif & Deborah Williamson <hawkview at sonic.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 4:53 PM

Anybody have good recommendations for seat cushions.  The upholstry is fine,
but the foam is 36 years old and feels like it.  Also need the trunk done.
Thanks,
Clif  1974 JH


-----Original Message----- From: Sarto Rocheleau
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 4:32 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

Sorry Clif, I did not post PRI Race web site---- http://www.prirace.com/
Sarto

--- On Sat, 11/20/10, Clif & Deborah Williamson <hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:

From: Clif & Deborah Williamson <hawkview at sonic.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 1:02 PM

Sarto.  Please tell me a bit about PRI Race.   Machine shop, speed shop,
rebuild shop, tune shop?  Do they have a dyno?
Thanks,
Clif  74 JH

-----Original Message----- From: Sarto Rocheleau
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 10:38 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

Hi Rich, Chris at PRI race, was going to add his carb setup to my Spitfire
but
I sold it for the Lotus before the we made the switch.  A few years ago, he
said that he has made the same setup for a Lotus Europa twin-cam and could do
Elans. Keith Franck has my webers purring with his new jetting and E-tubes.
He has new mods coming for even better improvements.  To bad we can not post
photos here but if you go to my web site you will see my 1970 spitfire with
Miata seats with a T9 5 speed conversion.
http://knockoffspinnertool.com/photo_gallery
Sold it after I finished a restoration with only 300 miles on it for the
Lotus
Elan.  Wish I had the space I would have kept the Spitfire.  I still have
some
parts, like a new glove box that may not not fit yours??  give me a call
481-6700Gregs suggestion to go the Johnny Franklin muffler is where I got him
to do a couple of changes and got my noise level controlled and I still can
hear the weber when I am on it. And he is real reasonable.Sarto

--- On Sat, 11/20/10, rlmossholder at comcast.net <rlmossholder at comcast.net>
wrote:

From: rlmossholder at comcast.net <rlmossholder at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 6:54 AM

Greg,

I will have to look at my notes for the specs on the carb. I ordered all of
the parts through Pierce Manifolds. They asked me for all of the specs on the
engine rebuild and punched those numbers in to their computer and it spit out
the proper part #'s. When I rebuilt the carb, all the parts fit fine and the
engine fired right up. We ran it in through various RPM's with no load and
after a little tweaking it performed beautifully. I think if I were to use
multiple carbs I would go with a set from PRI Race. Chris Cancelli has
developed a set of 4 motorcycle carbs and a manifold as a kit for the
Spitfire. I used his full coil over suspension kit (front and rear) on my
car.
Really nice kit, got rid of the transverse leaf spring and hopefully all of
the handling problems that it caused. I was pressed for time and he hand
delivered the suspension parts to my Dad's shop in Crescent City! Now that's
what I call service! He also makes parts for Alfa Romeos. Here's their
website: www.prirace.com

Cheers,
Rich
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Sat Nov 20 19:28:12 2010
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:28:12 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
In-Reply-To: <75237D5AEE8F4392B901CE1CECC58C8E@williamsonPC>
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	<75237D5AEE8F4392B901CE1CECC58C8E@williamsonPC>
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mg upholstery in santa rosa
many club members have been there with good success

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806 2457 C
510 231 6805 F





-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 4:54 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

Anybody have good recommendations for seat cushions.  The upholstry is fine,

but the foam is 36 years old and feels like it.  Also need the trunk done.
Thanks,
Clif  1974 JH


-----Original Message----- 
From: Sarto Rocheleau
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 4:32 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

Sorry Clif, I did not post PRI Race web site---- http://www.prirace.com/
Sarto

--- On Sat, 11/20/10, Clif & Deborah Williamson <hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:

From: Clif & Deborah Williamson <hawkview at sonic.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 1:02 PM

Sarto.  Please tell me a bit about PRI Race.   Machine shop, speed shop,
rebuild shop, tune shop?  Do they have a dyno?
Thanks,
Clif  74 JH

-----Original Message----- From: Sarto Rocheleau
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 10:38 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

Hi Rich, Chris at PRI race, was going to add his carb setup to my Spitfire
but
I sold it for the Lotus before the we made the switch.  A few years ago, he
said that he has made the same setup for a Lotus Europa twin-cam and could 
do
Elans. Keith Franck has my webers purring with his new jetting and E-tubes.
He has new mods coming for even better improvements.  To bad we can not post
photos here but if you go to my web site you will see my 1970 spitfire with
Miata seats with a T9 5 speed conversion.
http://knockoffspinnertool.com/photo_gallery
Sold it after I finished a restoration with only 300 miles on it for the
Lotus
Elan.  Wish I had the space I would have kept the Spitfire.  I still have
some
parts, like a new glove box that may not not fit yours??  give me a call
481-6700Gregs suggestion to go the Johnny Franklin muffler is where I got 
him
to do a couple of changes and got my noise level controlled and I still can
hear the weber when I am on it. And he is real reasonable.Sarto

--- On Sat, 11/20/10, rlmossholder at comcast.net <rlmossholder at comcast.net>
wrote:

From: rlmossholder at comcast.net <rlmossholder at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 6:54 AM

Greg,

I will have to look at my notes for the specs on the carb. I ordered all of
the parts through Pierce Manifolds. They asked me for all of the specs on 
the
engine rebuild and punched those numbers in to their computer and it spit 
out
the proper part #'s. When I rebuilt the carb, all the parts fit fine and the
engine fired right up. We ran it in through various RPM's with no load and
after a little tweaking it performed beautifully. I think if I were to use
multiple carbs I would go with a set from PRI Race. Chris Cancelli has
developed a set of 4 motorcycle carbs and a manifold as a kit for the
Spitfire. I used his full coil over suspension kit (front and rear) on my
car.
Really nice kit, got rid of the transverse leaf spring and hopefully all of
the handling problems that it caused. I was pressed for time and he hand
delivered the suspension parts to my Dad's shop in Crescent City! Now that's
what I call service! He also makes parts for Alfa Romeos. Here's their
website: www.prirace.com

Cheers,
Rich
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Sat Nov 20 19:32:49 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:32:49 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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I've used them also...good people!

Ron
58 MGA

Sarto Rocheleau wrote:
> Hi again Clif, MG Upholstery located at 499 Mountain View Avenue, Santa Rosa,
> CA 95407-8256  707-585-6008She did my Lotus doors, truck,  headliner and
> replaced only the foam in my 44 year old original seats.  Sarto
> --- On Sat, 11/20/10, Clif & Deborah Williamson <hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:

From jkenner at tamcab.com  Sun Nov 21 13:31:43 2010
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:31:43 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TRIUMPH PINK SLIP AND SPIT PARTS
Message-ID: <000901cb89bb$1dcc9eb0$5965dc10$@com>

Hello All,

 

I took apart a couple of Spitfires last year ( '76 & '77 ) and the bodies
are gone.

 

I just found that I have a pink slip for a 1976 Triumph ( no model listed,
from one of the spits )

body type is RD which I assume means roadster. It is signed off by the
previous owner

and I will give it to anyone that needs one. You would probably have to make
a matching vin # plate

for your car.

 

I also have 2 spit frames, 2 rear ends, 1 1/2  front ends,  2 - 1147cc
motors , 1 tranny from a '64 Herald,

radiators, wheels and a bunch of other stuff I would like to get rid of. One
of the rear ends is 3.89:1 and I got

it rebuilt at The Rear End Shop for $400, so I would have to recover that.
The rest of the parts I will give away.

 

JOHN KENNER

 

510 231 6803 P

415 806 2457 C

510 231 6805 F

 

 

tamalpais_s

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From wbain at sonic.net  Sun Nov 21 18:48:46 2010
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 17:48:46 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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Rich,

If you get or have access to Classic & Sports Car magazine from England
there is an article on the Triumph Italia in the November issue. If not
I'll give you mine. Pretty rare car. Probably be difficult to acquire  
the real thing.
You can certainly see where the TR-4 came from.

Cheers,
Wendell

On Nov 20, 2010, at 12:05 PM, rlmossholder at comcast.net wrote:

> Sarto,
>
> I looked at the photos on your website. You had a beautiful  
> Spitfire! I'd like to get some more info on the Miata seat  
> conversion. I scrolled through your photos and I saw a car that I  
> have always wanted... a Triumph Italia. That is IMHO one of the  
> most beautiful cars ever built. Brilliant Italian styling with  
> British simplicity.
>
> Cheers,
> Rich
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From rlmossholder at comcast.net  Sun Nov 21 19:40:29 2010
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 02:40:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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Thanks Wendell, 

I'll try to get to Barnes & Noble tomorrow. I know there's no way I'll ever get an Itallia. There like hens teeth, and besides that, now that I have two new girls, not very practical. I'm lucky I can keep the Spitfire. 

Rich 

From apexbrit2 at gmail.com  Sun Nov 21 20:18:00 2010
From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 19:18:00 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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Anyone remember Ray Martinelli? His obit is in the PD. Check it out! He was
a mover and shaker with British Cars here in the 1960's. I knew him through
SCCA and RDC racing in the early 1960's Let's hold good thoughts for Ray and
his family. Cheers, Rob Jackson

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 6:40 PM, <rlmossholder at comcast.net> wrote:

> Thanks Wendell,
>
> I'll try to get to Barnes & Noble tomorrow. I know there's no way I'll ever
> get an Itallia. There like hens teeth, and besides that, now that I have two
> new girls, not very practical. I'm lucky I can keep the Spitfire.
>
> Rich
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From mewgull at sonic.net  Sun Nov 21 21:16:22 2010
From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 20:16:22 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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	<963302725.1749215.1290393629651.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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Yeah, I well remember Ray and his shop.  There was always a line of
three or four Formula Juniors parked on the side of the driveway into
his shop.   He was a wonderful mechanic and a fun guy to listen to.  I
was asking around about him not that long ago.  I didn't know he'd
moved to Oregon.  Sad loss.

Regarding the Triumph Italia, they are indeed as rare as hen's teeth.
Only 329 were built.  There was one for sale near my cousin's house in
the UK a decade back.   At the time I thought it was some sort of
updated Peerless with a new name.  It was LHD and complete but looked
like more of a project than I was willing to start.  Oh, also it was
BRG with minilites on it.
Hemmings seems to have an Italia every now and then but I haven't paid
attention to the prices; just assumed that I couldn't afford one.

Also, thanks to Pete for the wonderful report on his experience with
the TR4 transmission conversion.   This sounds great.   I now feel the
urge to hold up a few dozen Seven-Elevens to raise the needed cash.  :-
D   One more question for Pete, where did you find the W58?  Is there
a prime Totyota recycler?

Gerry


On Nov 21, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Robin Jackson wrote:

> Anyone remember Ray Martinelli? His obit is in the PD. Check it out!
> He was
> a mover and shaker with British Cars here in the 1960's. I knew him
> through
> SCCA and RDC racing in the early 1960's Let's hold good thoughts for
> Ray and
> his family. Cheers, Rob Jackson

G. Mugele
mewgull at mugele.net

*** The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self
awareness.  -- Annie Savoy

From lgardini at sbcglobal.net  Mon Nov 22 07:08:41 2010
From: lgardini at sbcglobal.net (Larry Gardini)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 06:08:41 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
In-Reply-To: <756544763.1666955.1290194281982.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKOECGCJAA.lgardini@sbcglobal.net>

This post says the day after turkey day which in my mind would be Friday.
If i remember right Johns post said the Sunday after Thanksgiving.
Could some one clarify for me please?

Larry Gardini
TR6
TR3
Spitfire
Bufire

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 11:18 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE


Still not finished with the Spitfire rebuild, but I used an aluminum
flywheel. The throttle response is amazing. I can't wait to get it back on
the road and see the difference all of the modifications have made. I would
love to have it ready for the day after Turkey Day ride, but I don't have
the time to finish it in a week. I'll try to get it together for the spring.
The new babies have all of my attention now.
Cheers,
Rich M
71 Spitfire
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Mon Nov 22 07:44:38 2010
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 06:44:38 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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	<MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKOECGCJAA.lgardini@sbcglobal.net>
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Larry,

Does this mean you're actually going to join us on the Sunday after
Thanksgiving?
Looking forward to it!!!!!!!!

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806 2457 C
510 231 6805 F




-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Larry Gardini
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 6:09 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

This post says the day after turkey day which in my mind would be Friday.
If i remember right Johns post said the Sunday after Thanksgiving.
Could some one clarify for me please?

Larry Gardini
TR6
TR3
Spitfire
Bufire

-----Original Message-----
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rlmossholder at comcast.net
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 11:18 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE


Still not finished with the Spitfire rebuild, but I used an aluminum
flywheel. The throttle response is amazing. I can't wait to get it back on
the road and see the difference all of the modifications have made. I would
love to have it ready for the day after Turkey Day ride, but I don't have
the time to finish it in a week. I'll try to get it together for the spring.
The new babies have all of my attention now.
Cheers,
Rich M
71 Spitfire
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From mvg1 at att.net  Mon Nov 22 09:18:01 2010
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 08:18:01 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
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	<5CB53321-C2A2-461A-9F93-73CC4406A722@sonic.net>
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Wendell,

There was an interesting article in the Sunday Chronicle about a man in 
Sonoma who has a 1957 Morgan +4 that I thought might appreciate, maybe you 
know him. You can read the artcle at SFGate.com. It is a beautiful car.

Michael
64 TR4


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "wendell bain" <wbain at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE


> Rich,
>
> If you get or have access to Classic & Sports Car magazine from England
> there is an article on the Triumph Italia in the November issue. If not
> I'll give you mine. Pretty rare car. Probably be difficult to acquire
> the real thing.
> You can certainly see where the TR-4 came from.
>
> Cheers,
> Wendell
>
> On Nov 20, 2010, at 12:05 PM, rlmossholder at comcast.net wrote:
>
>> Sarto,
>>
>> I looked at the photos on your website. You had a beautiful
>> Spitfire! I'd like to get some more info on the Miata seat
>> conversion. I scrolled through your photos and I saw a car that I
>> have always wanted... a Triumph Italia. That is IMHO one of the
>> most beautiful cars ever built. Brilliant Italian styling with
>> British simplicity.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Rich
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From BergmanIns at comcast.net  Mon Nov 22 10:14:49 2010
From: BergmanIns at comcast.net (Peter & Nancy Bergman)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 09:14:49 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
References: <1609498427.1749023.1290393396689.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><963302725.1749215.1290393629651.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><AANLkTikVbWUVULH9W6HMu4Ur-oF+DVu9KP_ES0aAaE+P@mail.gmail.com>
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I think I just got lucky, called around junk yards in San Jose, found one at 
a place called Vince's, 1781 S. 10th St. San Jose, but it was the only one 
he had at the time.  He is one of the recyclers that the state sent you to 
when they were coughing up money for a running wreck, to get the smog 
monsters off the road.  He did have quite a few japanese "classics" ( 
70's-80's ) though. Good luck with the 7-11 gig!
Pete

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "G. Mugele" <mewgull at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE


> Yeah, I well remember Ray and his shop.  There was always a line of
> three or four Formula Juniors parked on the side of the driveway into
> his shop.   He was a wonderful mechanic and a fun guy to listen to.  I
> was asking around about him not that long ago.  I didn't know he'd
> moved to Oregon.  Sad loss.
>
> Regarding the Triumph Italia, they are indeed as rare as hen's teeth.
> Only 329 were built.  There was one for sale near my cousin's house in
> the UK a decade back.   At the time I thought it was some sort of
> updated Peerless with a new name.  It was LHD and complete but looked
> like more of a project than I was willing to start.  Oh, also it was
> BRG with minilites on it.
> Hemmings seems to have an Italia every now and then but I haven't paid
> attention to the prices; just assumed that I couldn't afford one.
>
> Also, thanks to Pete for the wonderful report on his experience with
> the TR4 transmission conversion.   This sounds great.   I now feel the
> urge to hold up a few dozen Seven-Elevens to raise the needed cash.  :-
> D   One more question for Pete, where did you find the W58?  Is there
> a prime Totyota recycler?
>
> Gerry
>
>
> On Nov 21, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Robin Jackson wrote:
>
>> Anyone remember Ray Martinelli? His obit is in the PD. Check it out!
>> He was
>> a mover and shaker with British Cars here in the 1960's. I knew him
>> through
>> SCCA and RDC racing in the early 1960's Let's hold good thoughts for
>> Ray and
>> his family. Cheers, Rob Jackson
>
> G. Mugele
> mewgull at mugele.net
>
> *** The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self
> awareness.  -- Annie Savoy
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From dawsonchurch at gmail.com  Mon Nov 22 13:24:21 2010
From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:24:21 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TRIUMPH PINK SLIP AND SPIT PARTS
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Hi John,

I'd LOVE that pink slip! If no one else has grabbed it by now.

Can you please bring it on Sunday, or if it's easier, mail to: 1490
Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404..

Dawson



On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:31 PM, John Kenner <jkenner at tamcab.com> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> I took apart a couple of Spitfires last year ( '76 & '77 ) and the bodies
> are gone.
>
>
>
> I just found that I have a pink slip for a 1976 Triumph ( no model listed,
> from one of the spits )
>
> body type is RD which I assume means roadster. It is signed off by the
> previous owner
>
> and I will give it to anyone that needs one. You would probably have to
make
> a matching vin # plate
>
> for your car.
>
>
>
> I also have 2 spit frames, 2 rear ends, 1 1/2  front ends,  2 - 1147cc
> motors , 1 tranny from a '64 Herald,
>
> radiators, wheels and a bunch of other stuff I would like to get rid of.
One
> of the rear ends is 3.89:1 and I got
>
> it rebuilt at The Rear End Shop for $400, so I would have to recover that.
> The rest of the parts I will give away.
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
>
>
>
> 510 231 6803 P
>
> 415 806 2457 C
>
> 510 231 6805 F
>
>
>
>
>
> tamalpais_s
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of
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--
Dawson

From wbain at sonic.net  Mon Nov 22 16:24:04 2010
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:24:04 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
In-Reply-To: <06BF2D719D594BDBA308330E5C3936FD@mike>
References: <1717606754.1706196.1290283540253.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<5CB53321-C2A2-461A-9F93-73CC4406A722@sonic.net>
	<06BF2D719D594BDBA308330E5C3936FD@mike>
Message-ID: <38188372-1691-4662-A70D-21A6C9ED7FAB@sonic.net>

Mike,

Thanks for letting me know about this. I think this guy has been on
some of the NOBBC tours, or at least the start. He usually doesn't
go on the runs.
Bill Young, lives in Sonoma. Very nice car. Nice guy.

Cheers,

Wendell


On Nov 22, 2010, at 8:18 AM, Mike Gianandrea wrote:

> SFGate.com.

From mewgull at sonic.net  Mon Nov 22 19:26:46 2010
From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:26:46 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Jags for sale
Message-ID: <DD00A620-1405-41D7-9971-B85BFB03F56D@sonic.net>

Hi all,

this email is addressed to both the Mendo Land Rover crowd and the
North Bay Brit Car Club (since there is so little overlap)

Lou Brero was an old time, big time,  Redwood Empire (based first in
Monte Rio and later in Arcata) SCCA racer who went international,
racing all over the country, Sebring, up and down the West Coast
(Pebble Beach, Golden Gate Park, Laguna Seca, Torrey Pines etc.  He
also ran Nassau speed week and various European circuits and hill
climbs.  He's mostly know for his exploits in an iconic D-Jag.
Anyway, his son, Lou Jr. (also an accomlished racer) is divesting
himself of quite of a collection of rolling stock, most of it in the
"project car" category.   But there are likely some great deals to be
had and some interesting cars, some with some very colorful history
and most available with extra engines.


Here's a list of what's available:

modified XK120 needing a full resto
dove grey XK140 hardtop needing a substantial resto
66 3.8 S-type white with red leather perfect interior, sound body,
seized motor - nice car - I would want this myself were it a manual
numerous other banger s types and Mk1s and 2s
2 LeMons prepared cars - XJ6 and XJS, both have Calif. Mille potential.
numerous parts XJ6s
3 sound XJS V12s, one with an as new interior
73 Ford F350 flatbed duallie ( $850 )

photos are available if anyone is interested.
If you're in the market, let me know any I'll put you in contact.

The cars are all in Vallejo right now


G. Mugele
mewgull at mugele.net

*** The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self
awareness.  -- Annie Savoy

From morrisf at SIDWater.org  Mon Nov 22 19:49:01 2010
From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:49:01 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Jags for sale
In-Reply-To: <DD00A620-1405-41D7-9971-B85BFB03F56D@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B15E@echo01.SID.LOCAL>

Lou Jr. has had some incredible life experiences and was his dad's mechanic as
well as a racer. Google Brero Sr and you will see some incredible old school
race photos and history. His cars are projects but oh so beautiful lines. Lou
jr set me up with an 4.2 L XKE engine. To be installed...eventually.

Frank M

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British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon Nov 22 18:26:46 2010
Subject: [Nobbc] Jags for sale

Hi all,

this email is addressed to both the Mendo Land Rover crowd and the
North Bay Brit Car Club (since there is so little overlap)

Lou Brero was an old time, big time,  Redwood Empire (based first in
Monte Rio and later in Arcata) SCCA racer who went international,
racing all over the country, Sebring, up and down the West Coast
(Pebble Beach, Golden Gate Park, Laguna Seca, Torrey Pines etc.  He
also ran Nassau speed week and various European circuits and hill
climbs.  He's mostly know for his exploits in an iconic D-Jag.
Anyway, his son, Lou Jr. (also an accomlished racer) is divesting
himself of quite of a collection of rolling stock, most of it in the
"project car" category.   But there are likely some great deals to be
had and some interesting cars, some with some very colorful history
and most available with extra engines.


Here's a list of what's available:

modified XK120 needing a full resto
dove grey XK140 hardtop needing a substantial resto
66 3.8 S-type white with red leather perfect interior, sound body,
seized motor - nice car - I would want this myself were it a manual
numerous other banger s types and Mk1s and 2s
2 LeMons prepared cars - XJ6 and XJS, both have Calif. Mille potential.
numerous parts XJ6s
3 sound XJS V12s, one with an as new interior
73 Ford F350 flatbed duallie ( $850 )

photos are available if anyone is interested.
If you're in the market, let me know any I'll put you in contact.

The cars are all in Vallejo right now


G. Mugele
mewgull at mugele.net

*** The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self
awareness.  -- Annie Savoy
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Mon Nov 22 22:44:33 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Gregory Tatarian)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:44:33 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Nice Austin Healy
Message-ID: <AANLkTikp9b21mq07EAPc+OKpLYYvT_cWy2=i6gRgPs8Y@mail.gmail.com>

Folks,
Just saw an Austin Healy 3000 BT7 Tri-carb (!) on CL - that's a pretty rare
model from what I know, and the price is fantastic if the car is in even
fair shape. No other info, no financial interest, just passing it on.
Cheers,
Greg Tatarian

From norman.weinfeld at gmail.com  Mon Nov 22 23:11:30 2010
From: norman.weinfeld at gmail.com (Norman S. Weinfeld)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 22:11:30 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Nice Austin Healy
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikp9b21mq07EAPc+OKpLYYvT_cWy2=i6gRgPs8Y@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikp9b21mq07EAPc+OKpLYYvT_cWy2=i6gRgPs8Y@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=51gBvrVk+vpGUCWcdfi2BG8=OvugVGcMbA+Vm@mail.gmail.com>

There's actually *another* one in Stockton (URL below)!

http://stockton.craigslist.org/cto/2069161320.html

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Gregory Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>wrote:

> Folks,
> Just saw an Austin Healy 3000 BT7 Tri-carb (!) on CL - that's a pretty rare
> model from what I know, and the price is fantastic if the car is in even
> fair shape. No other info, no financial interest, just passing it on.
> Cheers,
> Greg Tatarian
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Tue Nov 23 19:37:03 2010
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 18:37:03 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] JH PARTS ON EBAY.
In-Reply-To: <4CE884D1.9090707@sonic.net>
References: <583556.83607.qm@web113519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<4CE884D1.9090707@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <EF3222F829944C75B85BDD89B3C9639A@williamsonPC>

There are some lots of JH parts on Ebay.  Just came up.
Dawson maybe?  Check it out.  I see a clutch alignment tool and brake pads 
which are worth the price alone  Not sure about the other stuff, but worth a 
look.
Clif  74 JH

From don at napanet.net  Tue Nov 23 21:58:21 2010
From: don at napanet.net (Don)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:58:21 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Avenging Vehicles
Message-ID: <20101124045833.940F2AE66C@mail.dsl.napanet.net>

http://theavengers.tv/forever/cars.htm 

From gtwincams at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 09:49:14 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 08:49:14 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Happy Thanksgiving
Message-ID: <4CED420A.3080604@gmail.com>

  Hi Folks,
Hope you all have a good Thanksgiving.
See some of you on Sunday?
Cheers,
Greg and Trish Tatarian

From lgardini at sbcglobal.net  Wed Nov 24 10:03:17 2010
From: lgardini at sbcglobal.net (Larry Gardini)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:03:17 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Spark timing
Message-ID: <MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKIECNCJAA.lgardini@sbcglobal.net>

I would like to have a couple of distributors rebuilt. 
I would just buy a new one but i do not want to loose the tach drive. 
Any one have a suggestion on who could rebuild the units. 
One is for a TR6 and the second for a TR3.

Thank you 
Larry Gardini

From mvg1 at att.net  Wed Nov 24 10:23:32 2010
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:23:32 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Happy Thanksgiving
References: <4CED420A.3080604@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3604AB7C39804974BFE3FD2A6FF99D06@mike>

Speaking of Sunday, is there a plan to have turkey day leftovers somewhere? 
Or even a destination where we can sit and have lunch?

Michael
64 TR4

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Tatarian" <gtwincams at gmail.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 8:49 AM
Subject: [Nobbc] Happy Thanksgiving


>  Hi Folks,
> Hope you all have a good Thanksgiving.
> See some of you on Sunday?
> Cheers,
> Greg and Trish Tatarian
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 10:34:27 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:34:27 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Spark timing
In-Reply-To: <MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKIECNCJAA.lgardini@sbcglobal.net>
References: <MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKIECNCJAA.lgardini@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4CED4CA3.3000405@gmail.com>

  Hi Larry,
Jeff at Advanced Distributors has an excellent reputation for this work.
http://www.advanceddistributors.com/
Cheers,
Greg



On 11/24/2010 9:03 AM, Larry Gardini wrote:
> I would like to have a couple of distributors rebuilt.
> I would just buy a new one but i do not want to loose the tach drive.
> Any one have a suggestion on who could rebuild the units.
> One is for a TR6 and the second for a TR3.
>
> Thank you
> Larry Gardini
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Wed Nov 24 11:18:29 2010
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 10:18:29 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] SUNDAY AFTER THANKSGIVING RIDE
Message-ID: <006a01cb8c04$00f364e0$02da2ea0$@com>

Happy Thanksgiving to you all,

 

Here is my plan for Sundays ride.

 

We will meet at Bad Ass Coffee at 11am. 

I would like to depart by 11:20. Dress warmly.

I do know that some of us have heaters in our cars.

Then we will go over Mark Springs Road to Calistoga

and turn right and go down to St. Helena where

we will cut across to Silverado Trail and return to Calistoga

to have lunch at Buster's BBQ.

 

I thought after lunch we could head north on 128 to 

Chalk Hill Road and return to Santa Rosa that way.

 

See you Sunday.

 

 

 

JOHN KENNER

 

510 231 6803 P

415 806 2457 C

510 231 6805 F

 

 

tamalpais_s

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From gsb1159 at pacbell.net  Wed Nov 24 15:27:45 2010
From: gsb1159 at pacbell.net (Greg Badano)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:27:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] Minor dash rewiring and reassembly
In-Reply-To: <4CED420A.3080604@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <281482.68771.qm@web180009.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi all,
 
I had my speedo and tach rebuilt (Palo Alto Speedometer did a great job) and
am ready to put them back into the car.   On taking them out, I found a jumble
of wires, mainly for instrument lighting, that I'm having a hard time sorting
out.  I would appreciate your input as to who in the Santa Rosa area might be
up to the task. 
 
Thanks in advance and Happy Thanksgiving to all.
 
Greg
'59 AC Aceca

From mowog at sonic.net  Wed Nov 24 15:31:45 2010
From: mowog at sonic.net (Rod Williams)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:31:45 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Spark timing
In-Reply-To: <MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKIECNCJAA.lgardini@sbcglobal.net>
References: <MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKIECNCJAA.lgardini@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <B364F109-96F5-4ECA-8840-E3938E4032A3@sonic.net>

On Nov 24, 2010, at 9:03 AM, Larry Gardini wrote:
> I would like to have a couple of distributors rebuilt.

Larry
John Twist at University Motors did mine ('67 MGB) and did a fantastic job.
Sent along a print-out of the curve after rebuild. Seems to work great and 2
years on I'm still happy.
--
Rod Williams
Petaluma, California
1967 MGB

From dawsonchurch at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 15:34:32 2010
From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:34:32 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Minor dash rewiring and reassembly
In-Reply-To: <281482.68771.qm@web180009.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <4CED420A.3080604@gmail.com>
	<281482.68771.qm@web180009.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinmEEbPdKv+vAwZSBtvyyfFDydWvqhrLmWCCsvB@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, Rick Hobbs who works on my Lotus would be ideal. His email is above.

Dawson


On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Greg Badano <gsb1159 at pacbell.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I had my speedo and tach rebuilt (Palo Alto Speedometer did a great job)
and
> am ready to put them back into the car.   On taking them out, I found a
jumble
> of wires, mainly for instrument lighting, that I'm having a hard time
sorting
> out.  I would appreciate your input as to who in the Santa Rosa area might
be
> up to the task.
>
> Thanks in advance and Happy Thanksgiving to all.
>
> Greg
> '59 AC Aceca
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--
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Wed Nov 24 15:42:56 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:42:56 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Happy Thanksgiving
In-Reply-To: <4CED420A.3080604@gmail.com>
References: <4CED420A.3080604@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4CED94F0.9010903@sonic.net>

Well same to you two! See you Sunday...hope the weather is nice.

Ron
58 MGA

Greg Tatarian wrote:
>  Hi Folks,
> Hope you all have a good Thanksgiving.
> See some of you on Sunday?
> Cheers,
> Greg and Trish Tatarian
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Wed Nov 24 15:45:55 2010
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:45:55 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Spark timing
In-Reply-To: <MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKIECNCJAA.lgardini@sbcglobal.net>
References: <MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKIECNCJAA.lgardini@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <009e01cb8c29$5be20d00$13a62700$@com>

LARRY,

Look at Petronix online.

They have already built flame thrower dists for those cars
and flame thrower coils and great plug wires.

I bought one for a 1500 Spit motor and it slipped right in and fired right
up.

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806 2457 C
510 231 6805 F





-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Larry Gardini
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 9:03 AM
To: Nobbc
Subject: [Nobbc] Spark timing

I would like to have a couple of distributors rebuilt. 
I would just buy a new one but i do not want to loose the tach drive. 
Any one have a suggestion on who could rebuild the units. 
One is for a TR6 and the second for a TR3.

Thank you 
Larry Gardini
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From MAEMLY at aol.com  Wed Nov 24 16:04:25 2010
From: MAEMLY at aol.com (MAEMLY at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 18:04:25 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Nobbc] Happy Thanksgiving
Message-ID: <434f7.4e210bd2.3a1ef3f8@aol.com>

To all............. The same for everybody Turkey and good  cheer with 
Friends and Family. If weather is good may try and  make this a second 
ride........Amy & Mel
 
In a message dated 11/24/2010 2:43:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
nobbc at sonic.net writes:

Well  same to you two! See you Sunday...hope the weather is nice.

Ron
58  MGA

Greg Tatarian wrote:
>  Hi Folks,
> Hope you all  have a good Thanksgiving.
> See some of you on Sunday?
>  Cheers,
> Greg and Trish Tatarian
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From rlmossholder at comcast.net  Wed Nov 24 16:06:08 2010
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 23:06:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] The Spitfire is home!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinmEEbPdKv+vAwZSBtvyyfFDydWvqhrLmWCCsvB@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <560096846.1903827.1290639968339.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Gang, 

Yesterday my Dad came down to visit the twins and brought back my Spitfire on a trailer. Now the fun begins! I am going to try to get some work done on it and potentially have it ready for some spring time driving. Since my time is limited to work on it, and many hands make fast work, would anyone be interested in helping out occasionally? 

Since we now have several folks with Spitfires, and other members who have had them, I thought I could host some tech/work sessions to move things along. I think we could all benefit from this groups collective knowledge, besides it's always nice to get everyone together after a ride. Even though my car is heavily modified, I'm sure we could come up with several topics that cross over to all of our cars. 

Cheers, 
Rich 
'71 Spitfire 

From gtwincams at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 16:18:57 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:18:57 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Spark timing
In-Reply-To: <009e01cb8c29$5be20d00$13a62700$@com>
References: <MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKIECNCJAA.lgardini@sbcglobal.net>
	<009e01cb8c29$5be20d00$13a62700$@com>
Message-ID: <4CED9D61.4010401@gmail.com>

  John,
The problem for Larry is that he will lose the tach drive if he gets a 
Pertronix dizzy for the TR6. Those not wanting to switch their tach to 
electronic will have to have a stock dizzy.
Greg Tatarian


On 11/24/2010 2:45 PM, John Kenner wrote:
> LARRY,
>
> Look at Petronix online.
>
> They have already built flame thrower dists for those cars
> and flame thrower coils and great plug wires.
>
> I bought one for a 1500 Spit motor and it slipped right in and fired right
> up.
>
> JOHN KENNER
>
> 510 231 6803 P
> 415 806 2457 C
> 510 231 6805 F
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Larry Gardini
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 9:03 AM
> To: Nobbc
> Subject: [Nobbc] Spark timing
>
> I would like to have a couple of distributors rebuilt.
> I would just buy a new one but i do not want to loose the tach drive.
> Any one have a suggestion on who could rebuild the units.
> One is for a TR6 and the second for a TR3.
>
> Thank you
> Larry Gardini
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 16:19:15 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:19:15 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] The Spitfire is home!
In-Reply-To: <560096846.1903827.1290639968339.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <560096846.1903827.1290639968339.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4CED9D73.5010905@gmail.com>

  Grand idea, Rich!

Greg Tatarian


On 11/24/2010 3:06 PM, rlmossholder at comcast.net wrote:
> Gang,
>
> Yesterday my Dad came down to visit the twins and brought back my Spitfire on a trailer. Now the fun begins! I am going to try to get some work done on it and potentially have it ready for some spring time driving. Since my time is limited to work on it, and many hands make fast work, would anyone be interested in helping out occasionally?
>
> Since we now have several folks with Spitfires, and other members who have had them, I thought I could host some tech/work sessions to move things along. I think we could all benefit from this groups collective knowledge, besides it's always nice to get everyone together after a ride. Even though my car is heavily modified, I'm sure we could come up with several topics that cross over to all of our cars.
>
> Cheers,
> Rich
> '71 Spitfire
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From gsb1159 at pacbell.net  Wed Nov 24 16:27:18 2010
From: gsb1159 at pacbell.net (Greg Badano)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:27:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] Minor dash rewiring and reassembly
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinmEEbPdKv+vAwZSBtvyyfFDydWvqhrLmWCCsvB@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <839106.57527.qm@web180005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Thanks very much Dawson.
 
Rick - Please reply with your contact information.
 
Greg

--- On Wed, 11/24/10, Dawson Church <dawsonchurch at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Dawson Church <dawsonchurch at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Minor dash rewiring and reassembly
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>, "Rick Hobbs"
<astroplaner at comcast.net>
Date: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 2:34 PM


Yes, Rick Hobbs who works on my Lotus would be ideal. His email is above.

Dawson


On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Greg Badano <gsb1159 at pacbell.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I had my speedo and tach rebuilt (Palo Alto Speedometer did a great job)
and
> am ready to put them back into the car.   On taking them out, I found a
jumble
> of wires, mainly for instrument lighting, that I'm having a hard time
sorting
> out.  I would appreciate your input as to who in the Santa Rosa area might
be
> up to the task.
>
> Thanks in advance and Happy Thanksgiving to all.
>
> Greg
> '59 AC Aceca
> _______________________________________________
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--
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From tsthresh at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 24 17:09:14 2010
From: tsthresh at hotmail.com (Tim Thresh)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 16:09:14 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Spark timing
In-Reply-To: <4CED9D61.4010401@gmail.com>
References: <MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKIECNCJAA.lgardini@sbcglobal.net><009e01cb8c29$5be20d00$13a62700$@com>
	<4CED9D61.4010401@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY126-DS76E9B2C1E0C8DE4149721D8200@phx.gbl>

?Greg,

Should be able to get the Pertronix as a little gizmo to fit inside the OEM 
body and preserve the Tach drive. This is the way I did it for my MGA.  I 
know that it will not be the complete Flamethrower combo; however mine runs 
well The main problems with mechanical points/dwell timing are solved.

Tim Thresh

-----Original Message----- 
From: Greg Tatarian
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 3:18 PM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spark timing

  John,
The problem for Larry is that he will lose the tach drive if he gets a
Pertronix dizzy for the TR6. Those not wanting to switch their tach to
electronic will have to have a stock dizzy.
Greg Tatarian


On 11/24/2010 2:45 PM, John Kenner wrote:
> LARRY,
>
> Look at Petronix online.
>
> They have already built flame thrower dists for those cars
> and flame thrower coils and great plug wires.
>
> I bought one for a 1500 Spit motor and it slipped right in and fired right
> up.
>
> JOHN KENNER
>
> 510 231 6803 P
> 415 806 2457 C
> 510 231 6805 F
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] 
> On
> Behalf Of Larry Gardini
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 9:03 AM
> To: Nobbc
> Subject: [Nobbc] Spark timing
>
> I would like to have a couple of distributors rebuilt.
> I would just buy a new one but i do not want to loose the tach drive.
> Any one have a suggestion on who could rebuild the units.
> One is for a TR6 and the second for a TR3.
>
> Thank you
> Larry Gardini
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 17:13:04 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 16:13:04 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Spark timing
In-Reply-To: <BAY126-DS76E9B2C1E0C8DE4149721D8200@phx.gbl>
References: <MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKIECNCJAA.lgardini@sbcglobal.net><009e01cb8c29$5be20d00$13a62700$@com>
	<4CED9D61.4010401@gmail.com>
	<BAY126-DS76E9B2C1E0C8DE4149721D8200@phx.gbl>
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  Hi Tim,
Yes, I've done lots of Pertronix conversions, however a distributor that 
has worn shaft, bushing, thrust washers, breaker plate, advance plate, 
springs, vacuum - all this requires a complete replacement or rebuild. A 
Pertronix can only handle so much timing scatter caused by loose parts.
Cheers,
Greg




On 11/24/2010 4:09 PM, Tim Thresh wrote:
> ?Greg,
>
> Should be able to get the Pertronix as a little gizmo to fit inside 
> the OEM body and preserve the Tach drive. This is the way I did it for 
> my MGA.  I know that it will not be the complete Flamethrower combo; 
> however mine runs well The main problems with mechanical points/dwell 
> timing are solved.

From desmo93 at att.net  Wed Nov 24 17:40:19 2010
From: desmo93 at att.net (marcus)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 16:40:19 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Spark timing
References: <MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKIECNCJAA.lgardini@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <D8B2B0407EAE43F1B27D14F51D88D973@marcuse8622318>

I will second Jeff at Advanced Distributor, excellent work and customer 
service.  He also carries top quality rotors and caps as well.

If you want to go to a distributor with an electronic tach pickup, Morris at 
West Valley Instruments, http://www.westvalleyinstruments.com/, can covert 
your current cable driven tach to an electric tach.

Marcus

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Gardini" <lgardini at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Nobbc" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 9:03 AM
Subject: [Nobbc] Spark timing


>I would like to have a couple of distributors rebuilt.
> I would just buy a new one but i do not want to loose the tach drive.
> Any one have a suggestion on who could rebuild the units.
> One is for a TR6 and the second for a TR3.
>
> Thank you
> Larry Gardini
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From andrewdoran at berkeley.edu  Wed Nov 24 18:21:54 2010
From: andrewdoran at berkeley.edu (Andrew S. Doran)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 17:21:54 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] The Spitfire is home!
In-Reply-To: <4CED9D73.5010905@gmail.com>
References: <560096846.1903827.1290639968339.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<4CED9D73.5010905@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <af24fab1cdf7806901b7fe31296a502e.squirrel@calmail.berkeley.edu>

Dear List,

Further to the spitfire post by Rich I also expect to be driving in
Spring. I have a problem with my Indicators that are not working and the
turn signal arm is slack so has no tension on it and the bright lights
keep going on. Do I need to replace the whole thing with Victoria British
part f Part # 8-392     SWITCH TURN    $39.95 Each?

http://www.victoriabritish.com/scripts/mgrqispi.dll?APPNAME=WebLmc&PRGNAME=Welcome&ARGUMENTS=-AVB,-ASG,-A8-392,-A/icatalog/SG/full.aspx?page=0145

Cheers,

Andrew b79 Spitfire

>   Grand idea, Rich!
>
> Greg Tatarian
>
>
> On 11/24/2010 3:06 PM, rlmossholder at comcast.net wrote:
>> Gang,
>>
>> Yesterday my Dad came down to visit the twins and brought back my
>> Spitfire on a trailer. Now the fun begins! I am going to try to get some
>> work done on it and potentially have it ready for some spring time
>> driving. Since my time is limited to work on it, and many hands make
>> fast work, would anyone be interested in helping out occasionally?
>>
>> Since we now have several folks with Spitfires, and other members who
>> have had them, I thought I could host some tech/work sessions to move
>> things along. I think we could all benefit from this groups collective
>> knowledge, besides it's always nice to get everyone together after a
>> ride. Even though my car is heavily modified, I'm sure we could come up
>> with several topics that cross over to all of our cars.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Rich
>> '71 Spitfire
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From rlmossholder at comcast.net  Wed Nov 24 18:45:49 2010
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 01:45:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] The Spitfire is home!
In-Reply-To: <af24fab1cdf7806901b7fe31296a502e.squirrel@calmail.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID: <2053930348.1909116.1290649549407.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Hi Andrew, 

There always seems to be something with the electrical on these cars. Most of it is due to one temporary fix after another by previous owners. I would suggest replacing both switches, and occasionally cleaning the contacts. A little maintenance goes a long way. Try doing a search for Triumph Spitfire on ebay. You might find the same parts for less money. 

As a side note: I have replaced the Lucas wiring loom and fuse block with a modern GM unit. There was so much patch work in the wiring I didn't have a choice. I have also replaced the light bulbs around the car with LEDs. 

Cheers, 
Rich 

From don at napanet.net  Wed Nov 24 19:37:04 2010
From: don at napanet.net (Don)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 18:37:04 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Worst MGB ever?
Message-ID: <20101125023720.9FDD1AE660@mail.dsl.napanet.net>

>Just got this from Rick Feibusch, and also saw it on MG Experience 
>MGB forum.  If you haven't looked at the eBay webpage, it is a must see.
>This car is unusual- a custom unlike any other.
>
>
><http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220701120192&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220701120192&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en














Don Scott
Calistoga
1966 TR4A
1962 MGA Mk 2
1973 MGB GT (selling)
1963-7 MGB (seeking)
Misc. Japanese cars  

From wkilch at sbcglobal.net  Wed Nov 24 20:04:49 2010
From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (Walter & Gwen Kilchherr)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 19:04:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] Worst MGB ever?
In-Reply-To: <20101125023720.9FDD1AE660@mail.dsl.napanet.net>
Message-ID: <356092.66112.qm@web81703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

That car has class written all over it. And....you can share that classy
experience with two extra passengers. Isn't that a Fleetwood conversion? Gosh
I hope it doesn't get bid up too high. I want it bad!

w

--- On Wed,
11/24/10, Don <don at napanet.net> wrote:

> From: Don <don at napanet.net>
>
Subject: [Nobbc] Worst MGB ever?
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Date: Wednesday,
November 24, 2010, 6:37 PM
> >Just got this from Rick Feibusch,
> and also saw
it on MG Experience 
> >MGB forum.  If you haven't looked at the eBay
>
webpage, it is a must see.
> >This car is unusual- a custom unlike any other.
> >
> >
>
><http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220701120192&
fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymo
tors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220701120192&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageNam
e=VIP:watchlink:top:en
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Don Scott
>
Calistoga
> 1966 TR4A
> 1962 MGA Mk 2
> 1973 MGB GT (selling)
> 1963-7 MGB
(seeking)
> Misc. Japanese cars  
>
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From hawkview at sonic.net  Wed Nov 24 22:00:42 2010
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:00:42 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Spark timing
In-Reply-To: <009e01cb8c29$5be20d00$13a62700$@com>
References: <MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKIECNCJAA.lgardini@sbcglobal.net>
	<009e01cb8c29$5be20d00$13a62700$@com>
Message-ID: <D8E5FBA06EE8493BA1081424FB19A425@williamsonPC>

be sure to ask if your tack will still work.  I use the pertronix (digital) 
system now and get nothing on my analog tach.
clif 74 jh

-----Original Message----- 
From: John Kenner
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 2:45 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spark timing

LARRY,

Look at Petronix online.

They have already built flame thrower dists for those cars
and flame thrower coils and great plug wires.

I bought one for a 1500 Spit motor and it slipped right in and fired right
up.

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806 2457 C
510 231 6805 F





-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Larry Gardini
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 9:03 AM
To: Nobbc
Subject: [Nobbc] Spark timing

I would like to have a couple of distributors rebuilt.
I would just buy a new one but i do not want to loose the tach drive.
Any one have a suggestion on who could rebuild the units.
One is for a TR6 and the second for a TR3.

Thank you
Larry Gardini
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From mikestagnaro at comcast.net  Thu Nov 25 07:32:41 2010
From: mikestagnaro at comcast.net (mikestagnaro at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 14:32:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE
In-Reply-To: <06BF2D719D594BDBA308330E5C3936FD@mike>
Message-ID: <151111963.1760201.1290695561435.JavaMail.root@sz0083a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Michael,
Thanks for the lead to the sonoma morgan.  I have to say Morgan would be my car of choice if I could afford one.  And this one is absolutely lovely and in my favorite color.  I noticed his SU overflow pipes off the pots were pretty short. Is this unique to Morgan?  Mine on the MGA go all the way down about 18".  When I'm diagnosing a carb issue elliminating a possible stuck needle in the float chamber would be alot easier being able to see the ends of the tubes as in Bill's car.  On mine I have to look under the car.  Anybody know of any reason why they shouldn't be this short?  The issue, I imagine, would be how quickly apparent an overflow would be with gas flowing from the front carb blowing onto the exhaust header.  
Happy Holiday
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net>
To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:18:01 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE

Wendell,

There was an interesting article in the Sunday Chronicle about a man in 
Sonoma who has a 1957 Morgan +4 that I thought might appreciate, maybe you 
know him. You can read the artcle at SFGate.com. It is a beautiful car.

Michael
64 TR4


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "wendell bain" 
To: "North Bay British Car Club" 
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] THANKSGIVING RIDE


> Rich,
>
> If you get or have access to Classic & Sports Car magazine from England
> there is an article on the Triumph Italia in the November issue. If not
> I'll give you mine. Pretty rare car. Probably be difficult to acquire
> the real thing.
> You can certainly see where the TR-4 came from.
>
> Cheers,
> Wendell
>
> On Nov 20, 2010, at 12:05 PM, rlmossholder at comcast.net wrote:
>
>> Sarto,
>>
>> I looked at the photos on your website. You had a beautiful
>> Spitfire! I'd like to get some more info on the Miata seat
>> conversion. I scrolled through your photos and I saw a car that I
>> have always wanted... a Triumph Italia. That is IMHO one of the
>> most beautiful cars ever built. Brilliant Italian styling with
>> British simplicity.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Rich
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From rlmossholder at comcast.net  Thu Nov 25 11:33:05 2010
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:33:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] Worst MGB ever?
In-Reply-To: <356092.66112.qm@web81703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2138422306.1926033.1290709985952.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

I can't wait to see it on one of our rides. 
Rich 

From jkenner at tamcab.com  Fri Nov 26 13:09:07 2010
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 12:09:07 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday Ride Slight Change
Message-ID: <000301cb8da5$c9ae6180$5d0b2480$@com>

Hello LBC Nuts,

 

It occurs to me that Taylor's Refresher is a better choice for lunch than
Busters BBQ.

I think parking is easier there and if people want to bring their own
lunches

it is easier to do that at Taylor's than at Busters.

 

So if there are no big objections let's stop at Taylor' for lunch and then

head over to the Silverado Trail.  Dress warmly!!!!!!!

 

O K  See you Sunday,

 

JOHN KENNER

 

510 231 6803 P

415 806 2457 C

510 231 6805 F

 

 

tamalpais_s

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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Fri Nov 26 13:52:10 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 12:52:10 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday Ride Slight Change
In-Reply-To: <000301cb8da5$c9ae6180$5d0b2480$@com>
References: <000301cb8da5$c9ae6180$5d0b2480$@com>
Message-ID: <4CF01DFA.7030302@gmail.com>

  Works for us!
Cheers,
Greg and Trish Tatarian

On 11/26/2010 12:09 PM, John Kenner wrote:
> Hello LBC Nuts,
>
>
>
> It occurs to me that Taylor's Refresher is a better choice for lunch than
> Busters BBQ.
>
> I think parking is easier there and if people want to bring their own
> lunches
>
> it is easier to do that at Taylor's than at Busters.
>
>
>
> So if there are no big objections let's stop at Taylor' for lunch and then
>
> head over to the Silverado Trail.  Dress warmly!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> O K  See you Sunday,
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
>
>
>
> 510 231 6803 P
>
> 415 806 2457 C
>
> 510 231 6805 F
>
>
>
>
>
> tamalpais_s
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif]
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From wkilch at sbcglobal.net  Fri Nov 26 15:05:16 2010
From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (Walter & Gwen Kilchherr)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:05:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday Ride Slight Change
In-Reply-To: <4CF01DFA.7030302@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47123.94089.qm@web81702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

To minimize confusion, people should know that Taylor's Refresher is currently
called GOTTS Roadside Tray Gourmet. Hopefully this is only temporary.

Walter
--- On Fri, 11/26/10, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Greg
Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Sunday Ride Slight
Change
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Date: Friday, November 26, 2010, 12:52 PM
>   Works for us!
> Cheers,
> Greg and Trish Tatarian
> 
> On 11/26/2010 12:09
PM, John Kenner wrote:
> > Hello LBC Nuts,
> >
> >
> >
> > It occurs to me
that Taylor's Refresher is a better
> choice for lunch than
> > Busters BBQ.
>
>
> > I think parking is easier there and if people want to
> bring their own
> > lunches
> >
> > it is easier to do that at Taylor's than at Busters.
> >
>
>
> >
> > So if there are no big objections let's stop at
> Taylor' for lunch
and then
> >
> > head over to the Silverado Trail.  Dress
> warmly!!!!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > O K  See you Sunday,
> >
> >
> >
> > JOHN KENNER
> >
> >
> >
> >
510 231 6803 P
> >
> > 415 806 2457 C
> >
> > 510 231 6805 F
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> > tamalpais_s
> >
> > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type
image/gif
> which had a name of image001.gif]
> >
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Fri Nov 26 16:04:10 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 15:04:10 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday Ride Slight Change
In-Reply-To: <47123.94089.qm@web81702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <47123.94089.qm@web81702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4CF03CEA.8030008@gmail.com>

  Good catch, Walter. Here's a link:
http://maps.google.com/maps/place?hl=en&prmd=ivcm&resnum=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=taylors+refresher+napa&fb=1&gl=us&hq=taylors+refresher&hnear=Napa,+CA&cid=10804385749261271754&ei=hzzwTMuGAoGcsQOj7vScDw&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=local-photo-link&resnum=1&ved=0CBsQsQswAA 
<http://maps.google.com/maps/place?hl=en&prmd=ivcm&resnum=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=taylors+refresher+napa&fb=1&gl=us&hq=taylors+refresher&hnear=Napa,+CA&cid=10804385749261271754&ei=hzzwTMuGAoGcsQOj7vScDw&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=local-photo-link&resnum=1&ved=0CBsQsQswAA>

Greg Tatarian

On 11/26/2010 2:05 PM, Walter & Gwen Kilchherr wrote:
> To minimize confusion, people should know that Taylor's Refresher is currently
> called GOTTS Roadside Tray Gourmet. Hopefully this is only temporary.
>
> Walter
> --- On Fri, 11/26/10, Greg Tatarian<gtwincams at gmail.com>  wrote:

From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Fri Nov 26 18:00:53 2010
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (Andrew Preston)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 17:00:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] Worst MGB ever?
In-Reply-To: <20101125023720.9FDD1AE660@mail.dsl.napanet.net>
References: <20101125023720.9FDD1AE660@mail.dsl.napanet.net>
Message-ID: <688291.28452.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Don, that's quite a classy looking B, it's obviously someones jewel.
Andy
________________________________
From: Don <don at napanet.net>
To:
nobbc at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, November 24, 2010 6:37:04 PM
Subject: [Nobbc]
Worst MGB ever?

>Just got this from Rick Feibusch, and also saw it on MG
Experience 
>MGB forum.  If you haven't looked at the eBay webpage, it is a
must see.
>This car is unusual- a custom unlike any other.
>
>
><http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220701120192&
fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymo
tors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220701120192&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageNam
e=VIP:watchlink:top:en
>














Don Scott
Calistoga
1966 TR4A
1962 MGA
Mk 2
1973 MGB GT (selling)
1963-7 MGB (seeking)
Misc. Japanese cars 
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From wbain at sonic.net  Sat Nov 27 12:18:02 2010
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 11:18:02 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] The Spitfire is home!
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Rich,

Great idea. Two lady friend's had Spitfires. One a 74 and the other a  
78.
I imagine you can guess who got to keep them running.
Unfortunately not the Vickers Supermarine variety.

Cheers,

Wendell
59 Morgan

On Nov 24, 2010, at 3:06 PM, rlmossholder at comcast.net wrote:

> Gang,
>
> Yesterday my Dad came down to visit the twins and brought back my  
> Spitfire on a trailer. Now the fun begins! I am going to try to get  
> some work done on it and potentially have it ready for some spring  
> time driving. Since my time is limited to work on it, and many  
> hands make fast work, would anyone be interested in helping out  
> occasionally?
>
> Since we now have several folks with Spitfires, and other members  
> who have had them, I thought I could host some tech/work sessions  
> to move things along. I think we could all benefit from this groups  
> collective knowledge, besides it's always nice to get everyone  
> together after a ride. Even though my car is heavily modified, I'm  
> sure we could come up with several topics that cross over to all of  
> our cars.
>
> Cheers,
> Rich
> '71 Spitfire
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Sat Nov 27 13:32:03 2010
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 12:32:03 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] The Spitfire is home!
In-Reply-To: <2FC714A7-5BBE-4A8B-9C5C-D3D7ACA6F3A4@sonic.net>
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	<2FC714A7-5BBE-4A8B-9C5C-D3D7ACA6F3A4@sonic.net>
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Rich,

Did you do the wiring yet? That would be a great tech session.

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806 2457 C
510 231 6805 F




-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of wendell bain
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 11:18 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] The Spitfire is home!

Rich,

Great idea. Two lady friend's had Spitfires. One a 74 and the other a  
78.
I imagine you can guess who got to keep them running.
Unfortunately not the Vickers Supermarine variety.

Cheers,

Wendell
59 Morgan

On Nov 24, 2010, at 3:06 PM, rlmossholder at comcast.net wrote:

> Gang,
>
> Yesterday my Dad came down to visit the twins and brought back my  
> Spitfire on a trailer. Now the fun begins! I am going to try to get  
> some work done on it and potentially have it ready for some spring  
> time driving. Since my time is limited to work on it, and many  
> hands make fast work, would anyone be interested in helping out  
> occasionally?
>
> Since we now have several folks with Spitfires, and other members  
> who have had them, I thought I could host some tech/work sessions  
> to move things along. I think we could all benefit from this groups  
> collective knowledge, besides it's always nice to get everyone  
> together after a ride. Even though my car is heavily modified, I'm  
> sure we could come up with several topics that cross over to all of  
> our cars.
>
> Cheers,
> Rich
> '71 Spitfire
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From rlmossholder at comcast.net  Sat Nov 27 18:11:12 2010
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 01:11:12 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] The Spitfire is home!
In-Reply-To: <469108234.1987250.1290906582484.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <508874042.1987302.1290906672737.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

John, 

Most of the wiring is finished. The company I bought the harness from didn't include a wiring diagram or schematic, just a set of vague instructions. So there was a lot of trial and error. I made a multi-pin connector to make connecting the dash to the wiring harness for easy maintenance. The kit came pre-wired with a Cadillac fuse box and wiring harness. It has 12 circuits and standard blade type fuses. The quality is first rate, and the price was right, the directions were questionable. The fuse box also contains all of the relays for the horn and lights. I have also replaced the light bulbs with LED's. I need to make another multi-pin connector for the bonnet, and finish some wire routing. I have to wire a switch for the O/D solenoid, and hook up the reverse light switch, as well. 

I think I'm a little too far along in the process of wiring to use that as a tech session, however, tuning the suspension could be of interest. The most challenging thing for me is to find the time. I'll try to get something together for December/January. 

Rich 

From wkilch at sbcglobal.net  Sat Nov 27 22:18:53 2010
From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (Walter & Gwen Kilchherr)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 21:18:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday Ride Slight Change
In-Reply-To: <4CF03CEA.8030008@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <466545.57158.qm@web81707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hey Greg, that link is to Taylors on First St. in Napa. 

W

--- On Fri,
11/26/10, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Greg Tatarian
<gtwincams at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Sunday Ride Slight Change
> To:
nobbc at autox.team.net
> Date: Friday, November 26, 2010, 3:04 PM
>  Good catch,
Walter. Here's a link:
>
http://maps.google.com/maps/place?hl=en&prmd=ivcm&resnum=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=ta
ylors+refresher+napa&fb=1&gl=us&hq=taylors+refresher&hnear=Napa,+CA&cid=10804
385749261271754&ei=hzzwTMuGAoGcsQOj7vScDw&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=local-photo
-link&resnum=1&ved=0CBsQsQswAA
>
<http://maps.google.com/maps/place?hl=en&prmd=ivcm&resnum=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=t
aylors+refresher+napa&fb=1&gl=us&hq=taylors+refresher&hnear=Napa,+CA&cid=1080
4385749261271754&ei=hzzwTMuGAoGcsQOj7vScDw&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=local-phot
o-link&resnum=1&ved=0CBsQsQswAA>
> 
> Greg Tatarian
> 
> On 11/26/2010 2:05
PM, Walter & Gwen Kilchherr wrote:
> > To minimize confusion, people should
know that
> Taylor's Refresher is currently
> > called GOTTS Roadside Tray
Gourmet. Hopefully this is
> only temporary.
> > 
> > Walter
> > --- On Fri,
11/26/10, Greg Tatarian<gtwincams at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
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From morrisf at SIDWater.org  Sat Nov 27 22:24:34 2010
From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 21:24:34 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday Ride Slight Change
In-Reply-To: <466545.57158.qm@web81707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171B191@echo01.SID.LOCAL>

I lost the email regarding tomorrows ride. Meet when and where?

----- Original Message -----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net <nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net>
To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat Nov 27 21:18:53 2010
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Sunday Ride Slight Change

Hey Greg, that link is to Taylors on First St. in Napa.

W

--- On Fri,
11/26/10, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Greg Tatarian
<gtwincams at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Sunday Ride Slight Change
> To:
nobbc at autox.team.net
> Date: Friday, November 26, 2010, 3:04 PM
>  Good catch,
Walter. Here's a link:
>
http://maps.google.com/maps/place?hl=en&prmd=ivcm&resnum=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=ta
ylors+refresher+napa&fb=1&gl=us&hq=taylors+refresher&hnear=Napa,+CA&cid=10804
385749261271754&ei=hzzwTMuGAoGcsQOj7vScDw&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=local-photo
-link&resnum=1&ved=0CBsQsQswAA
>
<http://maps.google.com/maps/place?hl=en&prmd=ivcm&resnum=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=t
aylors+refresher+napa&fb=1&gl=us&hq=taylors+refresher&hnear=Napa,+CA&cid=1080
4385749261271754&ei=hzzwTMuGAoGcsQOj7vScDw&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=local-phot
o-link&resnum=1&ved=0CBsQsQswAA>
>
> Greg Tatarian
>
> On 11/26/2010 2:05
PM, Walter & Gwen Kilchherr wrote:
> > To minimize confusion, people should
know that
> Taylor's Refresher is currently
> > called GOTTS Roadside Tray
Gourmet. Hopefully this is
> only temporary.
> >
> > Walter
> > --- On Fri,
11/26/10, Greg Tatarian<gtwincams at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Sun Nov 28 00:13:47 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 23:13:47 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday Ride Slight Change
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Bad Ass at 11AM

Ron
58 MGA

Frank Morris wrote:
> I lost the email regarding tomorrows ride. Meet when and where?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net <nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net>
> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sat Nov 27 21:18:53 2010
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Sunday Ride Slight Change
> 
> Hey Greg, that link is to Taylors on First St. in Napa.
> 
> W
> 
> --- On Fri,
> 11/26/10, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>From: Greg Tatarian
> 
> <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> 
>>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Sunday Ride Slight Change
>>To:
> 
> nobbc at autox.team.net
> 
>>Date: Friday, November 26, 2010, 3:04 PM
>> Good catch,
> 
> Walter. Here's a link:
> 
> http://maps.google.com/maps/place?hl=en&prmd=ivcm&resnum=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=ta
> ylors+refresher+napa&fb=1&gl=us&hq=taylors+refresher&hnear=Napa,+CA&cid=10804
> 385749261271754&ei=hzzwTMuGAoGcsQOj7vScDw&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=local-photo
> -link&resnum=1&ved=0CBsQsQswAA
> 
> <http://maps.google.com/maps/place?hl=en&prmd=ivcm&resnum=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=t
> aylors+refresher+napa&fb=1&gl=us&hq=taylors+refresher&hnear=Napa,+CA&cid=1080
> 4385749261271754&ei=hzzwTMuGAoGcsQOj7vScDw&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=local-phot
> o-link&resnum=1&ved=0CBsQsQswAA>
> 
>>Greg Tatarian
>>
>>On 11/26/2010 2:05
> 
> PM, Walter & Gwen Kilchherr wrote:
> 
>>>To minimize confusion, people should
> 
> know that
> 
>>Taylor's Refresher is currently
>>
>>>called GOTTS Roadside Tray
> 
> Gourmet. Hopefully this is
> 
>>only temporary.
>>
>>>Walter
>>>--- On Fri,
> 
> 11/26/10, Greg Tatarian<gtwincams at gmail.com>
> 
>>wrote:
>>
> 
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Sun Nov 28 16:36:42 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 15:36:42 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday drivers
Message-ID: <4CF2E78A.6080902@gmail.com>

  Hi All,
Nice turnout for today's drive! Looks like some decided to take another 
route home, but it was good seeing you all. Thanks for organizing it, John.
Cheers,
Greg and Trish Tatarian

From lgardini at sbcglobal.net  Sun Nov 28 17:02:25 2010
From: lgardini at sbcglobal.net (lgardini at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:02:25 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Turkey Drive
Message-ID: <469614.89873.qm@smtp101.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

John 

Thank you for organizing today. 

Marlene and I enjoyed meeting many of the members and had a great drive. 

Thanks again

 

Larry and Marlene Gardini

TR6

From nobbc at sonic.net  Sun Nov 28 17:31:53 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:31:53 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday drivers   And future rides
In-Reply-To: <4CF2E78A.6080902@gmail.com>
References: <4CF2E78A.6080902@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4CF2F479.1080304@sonic.net>

Wow, great day...great ride. Thanks John! We will switch to our winter 
schedule in December. We usually have one ride mid-month starting at 
noon but remember, there are no rules in NOBBC so if anyone wants to 
lead additional rides, there WILL be attendees.

On that note, Wendell usually has a ride on Boxing Day which is a 
Sunday. Will there be one this year? Wendell, you out there? Let us 
know. We have also had rides on New Year's Day in past years. If anyone 
would like to schedule one this year, let me know. If it's not flat out 
raining, it's lbc time in Wine Country ;-0

Ron
58 MGA



Greg Tatarian wrote:
>  Hi All,
> Nice turnout for today's drive! Looks like some decided to take another 
> route home, but it was good seeing you all. Thanks for organizing it, John.
> Cheers,
> Greg and Trish Tatarian
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From algarber at hotmail.com  Sun Nov 28 17:46:10 2010
From: algarber at hotmail.com (Al Garber)
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 19:46:10 -0500
Subject: [Nobbc] (no subject)
Message-ID: <SNT139-w412AEFD8A2E4C0D4FD318C3240@phx.gbl>

We would also like to add our thanks John. As our first NOBBCC drive it was
great. Nice to meet some the names we only know from emails.

Does anyone know anything about this New Years event?
http://www.californiamille.com/amicievents.html#newyear

Al & Diane Garber -  TR3A



"San Francisco is 49 square miles surrounded by reality" ........... Paul
Kantner

From mowog at sonic.net  Sun Nov 28 19:06:12 2010
From: mowog at sonic.net (Rod Williams)
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 18:06:12 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <SNT139-w412AEFD8A2E4C0D4FD318C3240@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <36BEE5CC-1605-4564-8786-C906AD1EFF4D@sonic.net>

On Nov 28, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Al Garber wrote:

> Does anyone know anything about this New Years event?

I have driven this several times and it's always great fun. Meeting is in
Sausalito, rain or shine. A few years ago it was raining so hard that the 101
at Nick's Cove was closed due to flooding and we had to make an impromptu
route change. Always some fun  and interesting cars. The Porsche and the Lotus
drivers always tear out ahead of the rest but those of us that want to have a
great drive with beautiful views of both scenery and great old cars have a
ball. Get your entry in soon; I believe entry closes on Dec 1.

--
Rod Williams
Petaluma, California
1967 MGB

From csaul at noleak.com  Mon Nov 29 08:50:13 2010
From: csaul at noleak.com (Charlie Saul)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 07:50:13 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday drivers
In-Reply-To: <4CF2E78A.6080902@gmail.com>
References: <4CF2E78A.6080902@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE44B444@AQUA-DC1>

Thank you John,
Lori and I enjoyed the cars, the drive, meeting new friends and the
lunch destination.

We took an awesome drive back to Novato via Oakville Grade, Cavedale
Road (along the ridge) to Arnold Drive.
Can't take a bad turn in Sonoma/ Napa Country.

Best Regards,

Charlie
'52 Jag XK 120


-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 3:37 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday drivers

  Hi All,
Nice turnout for today's drive! Looks like some decided to take another
route home, but it was good seeing you all. Thanks for organizing it,
John.
Cheers,
Greg and Trish Tatarian
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From morrisf at SIDWater.org  Mon Nov 29 09:02:29 2010
From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 08:02:29 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday drivers
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A glorious day indeed! We likewise enjoyed the Sunday drive and talking to you
all. Fine Fall colors. We went home via the Domain Carneros region and stopped
for a sip of bubbly on the terrace.

Frank and Candace
74 MGB (Damask Red)

----- Original Message -----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net <nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net>
To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon Nov 29 07:50:13 2010
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Sunday drivers

Thank you John,
Lori and I enjoyed the cars, the drive, meeting new friends and the
lunch destination.

We took an awesome drive back to Novato via Oakville Grade, Cavedale
Road (along the ridge) to Arnold Drive.
Can't take a bad turn in Sonoma/ Napa Country.

Best Regards,

Charlie
'52 Jag XK 120


-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 3:37 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday drivers

  Hi All,
Nice turnout for today's drive! Looks like some decided to take another
route home, but it was good seeing you all. Thanks for organizing it,
John.
Cheers,
Greg and Trish Tatarian
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From mvg1 at att.net  Mon Nov 29 10:07:01 2010
From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 09:07:01 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday drivers   And future rides
References: <4CF2E78A.6080902@gmail.com> <4CF2F479.1080304@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <75F32AE40A5C45559D7BB8B0EAE0F69E@mike>

I didn't get a chance to get near a computer yesterday, but I agree with Ron 
about yesterday, great ride , great day. It really just wonderful to live in 
such a beautiful area, with so many good roads and destinations for our 
group to take advantage of. I was glad to see the turn out that we got, it 
was really cool, driving behind John Kenner and looking at the long line of 
lbc's in my rear view mirror. From now on, I think we ought to advertise our 
rides to the public withy a message to the Escapes and Prius of the world 
NOT to interupt our convoy. Let's do it again soon, hopefully before mid 
December, see you all then.

P.S.

If any of you are interested in giving your lbc a make over, please keep me 
in mind.

Michael
64 TR4
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Sunday drivers And future rides


> Wow, great day...great ride. Thanks John! We will switch to our winter 
> schedule in December. We usually have one ride mid-month starting at noon 
> but remember, there are no rules in NOBBC so if anyone wants to lead 
> additional rides, there WILL be attendees.
>
> On that note, Wendell usually has a ride on Boxing Day which is a Sunday. 
> Will there be one this year? Wendell, you out there? Let us know. We have 
> also had rides on New Year's Day in past years. If anyone would like to 
> schedule one this year, let me know. If it's not flat out raining, it's 
> lbc time in Wine Country ;-0
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
>
>
> Greg Tatarian wrote:
>>  Hi All,
>> Nice turnout for today's drive! Looks like some decided to take another 
>> route home, but it was good seeing you all. Thanks for organizing it, 
>> John.
>> Cheers,
>> Greg and Trish Tatarian
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From lgardini at sbcglobal.net  Mon Nov 29 16:05:46 2010
From: lgardini at sbcglobal.net (Larry Gardini)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:05:46 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday drivers   And future rides
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If any of you are interested in giving your lbc a make over, please keep me
in mind.

??????????

Larry Gardini

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From hawkview at sonic.net  Mon Nov 29 16:06:45 2010
From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:06:45 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday drivers   And future rides
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Sounds like we missed a great ride.
Where did you go, and how many showed up?
Looking forward to the next ride.
Clif and Deborah  74 JH

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Gianandrea
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 9:07 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Sunday drivers And future rides

I didn't get a chance to get near a computer yesterday, but I agree with Ron
about yesterday, great ride , great day. It really just wonderful to live in
such a beautiful area, with so many good roads and destinations for our
group to take advantage of. I was glad to see the turn out that we got, it
was really cool, driving behind John Kenner and looking at the long line of
lbc's in my rear view mirror. From now on, I think we ought to advertise our
rides to the public withy a message to the Escapes and Prius of the world
NOT to interupt our convoy. Let's do it again soon, hopefully before mid
December, see you all then.

P.S.

If any of you are interested in giving your lbc a make over, please keep me
in mind.

Michael
64 TR4
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Sunday drivers And future rides


> Wow, great day...great ride. Thanks John! We will switch to our winter 
> schedule in December. We usually have one ride mid-month starting at noon 
> but remember, there are no rules in NOBBC so if anyone wants to lead 
> additional rides, there WILL be attendees.
>
> On that note, Wendell usually has a ride on Boxing Day which is a Sunday. 
> Will there be one this year? Wendell, you out there? Let us know. We have 
> also had rides on New Year's Day in past years. If anyone would like to 
> schedule one this year, let me know. If it's not flat out raining, it's 
> lbc time in Wine Country ;-0
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
>
>
> Greg Tatarian wrote:
>>  Hi All,
>> Nice turnout for today's drive! Looks like some decided to take another 
>> route home, but it was good seeing you all. Thanks for organizing it, 
>> John.
>> Cheers,
>> Greg and Trish Tatarian
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From MAEMLY at aol.com  Mon Nov 29 17:31:48 2010
From: MAEMLY at aol.com (MAEMLY at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 19:31:48 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday drivers   And future rides
Message-ID: <8674.662ba0c6.3a259ff4@aol.com>

Look forward to answer to Deborah and Cliffs question as I too  wasn't able 
to make it and sounds like a great time was had by all...........Amy  & Mel 
79Midget
 
In a message dated 11/29/2010 3:07:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
hawkview at sonic.net writes:

Sounds  like we missed a great ride.
Where did you go, and how many showed  up?
Looking forward to the next ride.
Clif and Deborah  74  JH

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Gianandrea
Sent:  Monday, November 29, 2010 9:07 AM
To: North Bay British Car  Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Sunday drivers And future rides

I didn't  get a chance to get near a computer yesterday, but I agree with 
Ron
about  yesterday, great ride , great day. It really just wonderful to live 
in
such  a beautiful area, with so many good roads and destinations for our
group to  take advantage of. I was glad to see the turn out that we got, it
was  really cool, driving behind John Kenner and looking at the long line  
of
lbc's in my rear view mirror. From now on, I think we ought to advertise  
our
rides to the public withy a message to the Escapes and Prius of the  world
NOT to interupt our convoy. Let's do it again soon, hopefully before  mid
December, see you all then.

P.S.

If any of you are  interested in giving your lbc a make over, please keep me
in  mind.

Michael
64 TR4
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron  Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club"  <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 4:31  PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Sunday drivers And future rides


>  Wow, great day...great ride. Thanks John! We will switch to our winter  
> schedule in December. We usually have one ride mid-month starting at  
noon 
> but remember, there are no rules in NOBBC so if anyone wants to  lead 
> additional rides, there WILL be attendees.
>
> On  that note, Wendell usually has a ride on Boxing Day which is a 
Sunday.  
> Will there be one this year? Wendell, you out there? Let us know. We  
have 
> also had rides on New Year's Day in past years. If anyone would  like to 
> schedule one this year, let me know. If it's not flat out  raining, it's 
> lbc time in Wine Country ;-0
>
>  Ron
> 58 MGA
>
>
>
> Greg Tatarian  wrote:
>>  Hi All,
>> Nice turnout for today's drive!  Looks like some decided to take another 
>> route home, but it was  good seeing you all. Thanks for organizing it, 
>> John.
>>  Cheers,
>> Greg and Trish Tatarian
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Mon Nov 29 18:12:40 2010
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:12:40 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TO THOSE WHO MISSED SUNDAY"S RIDE
In-Reply-To: <0BFFE1250F904477B0C4117E8241C3C9@williamsonPC>
References: <4CF2E78A.6080902@gmail.com> <4CF2F479.1080304@sonic.net>
	<75F32AE40A5C45559D7BB8B0EAE0F69E@mike>
	<0BFFE1250F904477B0C4117E8241C3C9@williamsonPC>
Message-ID: <000901cb902b$b12bc3e0$13834ba0$@com>

To all who missed the ride and are curious:

17 Cars showed up at Bad Ass Coffee in Santa Rosa.

We went over Mark West Springs Road to Petrified Forest Road
and on into Calistoga where we travelled down to St. Helena and stopped for
a great lunch at Taylors ( now Gotts ) Refresher where they happened to 
have a large heated tent out back.

After lunch we the went down the road South a couple of miles to Zinfandel
Lane
and turned left and found our way over to The Silverado Trail and back to 
Calistoga. Most of the group then went back the way we came to Santa Rosa
and others went off to hot springs and wineries before heading home.

The oldest car was a 1952 Jaguar XK120 and the newest was a 2010 John Cooper
Works Mini.

It was a beautiful day for a leisurely drive and a great time was had by
all.

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806 2457 C
510 231 6805 F




-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 3:07 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Sunday drivers And future rides

Sounds like we missed a great ride.
Where did you go, and how many showed up?
Looking forward to the next ride.
Clif and Deborah  74 JH

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Gianandrea
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 9:07 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Sunday drivers And future rides

I didn't get a chance to get near a computer yesterday, but I agree with Ron
about yesterday, great ride , great day. It really just wonderful to live in
such a beautiful area, with so many good roads and destinations for our
group to take advantage of. I was glad to see the turn out that we got, it
was really cool, driving behind John Kenner and looking at the long line of
lbc's in my rear view mirror. From now on, I think we ought to advertise our
rides to the public withy a message to the Escapes and Prius of the world
NOT to interupt our convoy. Let's do it again soon, hopefully before mid
December, see you all then.

P.S.

If any of you are interested in giving your lbc a make over, please keep me
in mind.

Michael
64 TR4
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Sunday drivers And future rides


> Wow, great day...great ride. Thanks John! We will switch to our winter 
> schedule in December. We usually have one ride mid-month starting at noon 
> but remember, there are no rules in NOBBC so if anyone wants to lead 
> additional rides, there WILL be attendees.
>
> On that note, Wendell usually has a ride on Boxing Day which is a Sunday. 
> Will there be one this year? Wendell, you out there? Let us know. We have 
> also had rides on New Year's Day in past years. If anyone would like to 
> schedule one this year, let me know. If it's not flat out raining, it's 
> lbc time in Wine Country ;-0
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
>
>
> Greg Tatarian wrote:
>>  Hi All,
>> Nice turnout for today's drive! Looks like some decided to take another 
>> route home, but it was good seeing you all. Thanks for organizing it, 
>> John.
>> Cheers,
>> Greg and Trish Tatarian
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From GPhillips at Dzhphillips.com  Mon Nov 29 18:21:06 2010
From: GPhillips at Dzhphillips.com (Gary Phillips)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:21:06 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TO THOSE WHO MISSED SUNDAY"S RIDE
In-Reply-To: <000901cb902b$b12bc3e0$13834ba0$@com>
References: <4CF2E78A.6080902@gmail.com> <4CF2F479.1080304@sonic.net>
	<75F32AE40A5C45559D7BB8B0EAE0F69E@mike>
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Message-ID: <8D41BC74952C0649A6F5151B9D027CBC8F1A73B0FF@svr-exch-01>

Sounds great; wish we could have made the ride.

Gary O. Phillips MBA, CPA, CVA
Partner

DZH Phillips LLP
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San Francisco, California  94105
M: 415-781-2500
D:  415-624-2217
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W:  www.dzhphillips.com

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of John Kenner
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 5:13 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: [Nobbc] TO THOSE WHO MISSED SUNDAY"S RIDE

To all who missed the ride and are curious:

17 Cars showed up at Bad Ass Coffee in Santa Rosa.

We went over Mark West Springs Road to Petrified Forest Road
and on into Calistoga where we travelled down to St. Helena and stopped for
a great lunch at Taylors ( now Gotts ) Refresher where they happened to
have a large heated tent out back.

After lunch we the went down the road South a couple of miles to Zinfandel
Lane
and turned left and found our way over to The Silverado Trail and back to
Calistoga. Most of the group then went back the way we came to Santa Rosa
and others went off to hot springs and wineries before heading home.

The oldest car was a 1952 Jaguar XK120 and the newest was a 2010 John Cooper
Works Mini.

It was a beautiful day for a leisurely drive and a great time was had by
all.

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806 2457 C
510 231 6805 F




-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 3:07 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Sunday drivers And future rides

Sounds like we missed a great ride.
Where did you go, and how many showed up?
Looking forward to the next ride.
Clif and Deborah  74 JH

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Gianandrea
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 9:07 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Sunday drivers And future rides

I didn't get a chance to get near a computer yesterday, but I agree with Ron
about yesterday, great ride , great day. It really just wonderful to live in
such a beautiful area, with so many good roads and destinations for our
group to take advantage of. I was glad to see the turn out that we got, it
was really cool, driving behind John Kenner and looking at the long line of
lbc's in my rear view mirror. From now on, I think we ought to advertise our
rides to the public withy a message to the Escapes and Prius of the world
NOT to interupt our convoy. Let's do it again soon, hopefully before mid
December, see you all then.

P.S.

If any of you are interested in giving your lbc a make over, please keep me
in mind.

Michael
64 TR4
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Sunday drivers And future rides


> Wow, great day...great ride. Thanks John! We will switch to our winter
> schedule in December. We usually have one ride mid-month starting at noon
> but remember, there are no rules in NOBBC so if anyone wants to lead
> additional rides, there WILL be attendees.
>
> On that note, Wendell usually has a ride on Boxing Day which is a Sunday.
> Will there be one this year? Wendell, you out there? Let us know. We have
> also had rides on New Year's Day in past years. If anyone would like to
> schedule one this year, let me know. If it's not flat out raining, it's
> lbc time in Wine Country ;-0
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
>
>
> Greg Tatarian wrote:
>>  Hi All,
>> Nice turnout for today's drive! Looks like some decided to take another
>> route home, but it was good seeing you all. Thanks for organizing it,
>> John.
>> Cheers,
>> Greg and Trish Tatarian
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Mon Nov 29 23:54:08 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 22:54:08 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Yesterday's Meet
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Thanks! Great pics and video. I'll forward to our webmistress and the 
rest of the club.

Ron
58 MGA

Guy Foster wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I happened to see the gathering yesterday at Badass coffee in Windsor and took a few photos and a short video. In case you are interested, or want copies of any/all for your website, let me know - link to my site below.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Guy
> 
> http://web.me.com/guy_foster/guyswebsite/Photo_Blog/Entries/2010/11/29_North_Bay_British_Car_Club.html