From debbiekayrich at yahoo.com Thu Jul 1 00:41:43 2010 From: debbiekayrich at yahoo.com (Deborah Richardson Richardson) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 23:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] Is there a run Message-ID: <285682.17845.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi all. Started the girl this last weekend and she started right up!! (We have a switch that turns off the battery.) I would like to get the old man out of the house (and away from stamps...his's phelic). When's the next run? Please help. ! From gtwincams at gmail.com Thu Jul 1 09:12:43 2010 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 08:12:43 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Is there a run In-Reply-To: <285682.17845.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <285682.17845.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C2CB06B.2050403@gmail.com> You just missed one, Deborah, but there's nothing to say you can't try to put another one together and see if you have any takers... Cheers, Greg Tatarian 1971 Lotus Elan 1974 Triumph TR6 On 6/30/2010 11:41 PM, Deborah Richardson Richardson wrote: > Hi all. Started the girl this last weekend and she started right up!! (We have > a switch that turns off the battery.) I would like to get the old man out of > the house (and away from stamps...his's phelic). When's the next run? Please > help. ! > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jkenner at tamcab.com Thu Jul 1 09:27:22 2010 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 08:27:22 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Is there a run In-Reply-To: <4C2CB06B.2050403@gmail.com> References: <285682.17845.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C2CB06B.2050403@gmail.com> Message-ID: <005d01cb1931$e728e520$b57aaf60$@com> I'LL GO JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Tatarian Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 8:13 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Is there a run You just missed one, Deborah, but there's nothing to say you can't try to put another one together and see if you have any takers... Cheers, Greg Tatarian 1971 Lotus Elan 1974 Triumph TR6 On 6/30/2010 11:41 PM, Deborah Richardson Richardson wrote: > Hi all. Started the girl this last weekend and she started right up!! (We have > a switch that turns off the battery.) I would like to get the old man out of > the house (and away from stamps...his's phelic). When's the next run? Please > help. ! > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Thu Jul 1 10:34:34 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 09:34:34 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Is there a run In-Reply-To: <005d01cb1931$e728e520$b57aaf60$@com> References: <285682.17845.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C2CB06B.2050403@gmail.com> <005d01cb1931$e728e520$b57aaf60$@com> Message-ID: <4C2CC39A.1010306@sonic.net> Perhaps we should have a British invasion saturday to celebrate the 4th. Short notice but anyone want to run with it? Ron 58 MGA John Kenner wrote: > I'LL GO > > JOHN KENNER > > 510 231 6803 P > 415 806 2457 C > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Greg Tatarian > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 8:13 AM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Is there a run > > You just missed one, Deborah, but there's nothing to say you can't try > to put another one together and see if you have any takers... > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > 1971 Lotus Elan > 1974 Triumph TR6 > > > > On 6/30/2010 11:41 PM, Deborah Richardson Richardson wrote: > >>Hi all. Started the girl this last weekend and she started right up!! (We > > have > >>a switch that turns off the battery.) I would like to get the old man out > > of > >>the house (and away from stamps...his's phelic). When's the next run? > > Please > >>help. ! >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc mailing list >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jkenner at tamcab.com Thu Jul 1 10:54:43 2010 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 09:54:43 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Is there a run In-Reply-To: <4C2CC39A.1010306@sonic.net> References: <285682.17845.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C2CB06B.2050403@gmail.com> <005d01cb1931$e728e520$b57aaf60$@com> <4C2CC39A.1010306@sonic.net> Message-ID: <001301cb193e$1b0525a0$510f70e0$@com> I'LL GO JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:35 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Is there a run Perhaps we should have a British invasion saturday to celebrate the 4th. Short notice but anyone want to run with it? Ron 58 MGA John Kenner wrote: > I'LL GO > > JOHN KENNER > > 510 231 6803 P > 415 806 2457 C > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Greg Tatarian > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 8:13 AM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Is there a run > > You just missed one, Deborah, but there's nothing to say you can't try > to put another one together and see if you have any takers... > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > 1971 Lotus Elan > 1974 Triumph TR6 > > > > On 6/30/2010 11:41 PM, Deborah Richardson Richardson wrote: > >>Hi all. Started the girl this last weekend and she started right up!! (We > > have > >>a switch that turns off the battery.) I would like to get the old man out > > of > >>the house (and away from stamps...his's phelic). When's the next run? > > Please > >>help. ! >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc mailing list >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From wbain at sonic.net Thu Jul 1 11:52:19 2010 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 10:52:19 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Is there a run In-Reply-To: <4C2CC39A.1010306@sonic.net> References: <285682.17845.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C2CB06B.2050403@gmail.com> <005d01cb1931$e728e520$b57aaf60$@com> <4C2CC39A.1010306@sonic.net> Message-ID: <454B788D-B127-4F6C-8F14-8AD7C9279D16@sonic.net> That's two of us. Cheers, Wendell 59 Morgan On Jul 1, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > Perhaps we should have a British invasion saturday to celebrate the > 4th. Short notice but anyone want to run with it? > > Ron > 58 MGA > > John Kenner wrote: > >> I'LL GO >> JOHN KENNER >> 510 231 6803 P >> 415 806 2457 C >> 510 231 6805 F >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- >> bounces at autox.team.net] On >> Behalf Of Greg Tatarian >> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 8:13 AM >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Is there a run >> You just missed one, Deborah, but there's nothing to say you can't >> try to put another one together and see if you have any takers... >> Cheers, >> Greg Tatarian >> 1971 Lotus Elan >> 1974 Triumph TR6 >> On 6/30/2010 11:41 PM, Deborah Richardson Richardson wrote: >>> Hi all. Started the girl this last weekend and she started right >>> up!! (We >> have >>> a switch that turns off the battery.) I would like to get the old >>> man out >> of >>> the house (and away from stamps...his's phelic). When's the next >>> run? >> Please >>> help. ! >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From rnapda at yahoo.com Thu Jul 1 12:20:28 2010 From: rnapda at yahoo.com (Richard Anderson) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 11:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] Is there a run In-Reply-To: <4C2CC39A.1010306@sonic.net> References: <285682.17845.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C2CB06B.2050403@gmail.com> <005d01cb1931$e728e520$b57aaf60$@com> <4C2CC39A.1010306@sonic.net> Message-ID: <851555.97721.qm@web46006.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Can't make this one, but hopefully next time. Thanks for letting me stay (try) with you and the Lotus gang in the turns last week. The brakes just cooled off. Dick "67 XKE ________________________________ From: Ron Engelhardt To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Thu, July 1, 2010 9:34:34 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Is there a run Perhaps we should have a British invasion saturday to celebrate the 4th. Short notice but anyone want to run with it? Ron 58 MGA John Kenner wrote: > I'LL GO > > JOHN KENNER > > 510 231 6803 P > 415 806 2457 C > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Greg Tatarian > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 8:13 AM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Is there a run > > You just missed one, Deborah, but there's nothing to say you can't try > to put another one together and see if you have any takers... > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > 1971 Lotus Elan > 1974 Triumph TR6 > > > > On 6/30/2010 11:41 PM, Deborah Richardson Richardson wrote: > >>Hi all. Started the girl this last weekend and she started right up!! (We > > have > >>a switch that turns off the battery.) I would like to get the old man out > > of > >>the house (and away from stamps...his's phelic). When's the next run? > > Please > >>help. ! >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc mailing list >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Thu Jul 1 12:23:42 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 11:23:42 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Is there a run In-Reply-To: <001301cb193e$1b0525a0$510f70e0$@com> References: <285682.17845.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C2CB06B.2050403@gmail.com> <005d01cb1931$e728e520$b57aaf60$@com> <4C2CC39A.1010306@sonic.net> <001301cb193e$1b0525a0$510f70e0$@com> Message-ID: <4C2CDD2E.4060009@sonic.net> Way to go John, thanks for volunteering. Details please ;-) Ron 58 MGA John Kenner wrote: > I'LL GO > > JOHN KENNER > > 510 231 6803 P > 415 806 2457 C > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:35 AM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Is there a run > > Perhaps we should have a British invasion saturday to celebrate the 4th. > Short notice but anyone want to run with it? > > Ron > 58 MGA > > John Kenner wrote: > > >>I'LL GO >> >>JOHN KENNER >> >>510 231 6803 P >>415 806 2457 C >>510 231 6805 F >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > On > >>Behalf Of Greg Tatarian >>Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 8:13 AM >>To: North Bay British Car Club >>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Is there a run >> >>You just missed one, Deborah, but there's nothing to say you can't try >>to put another one together and see if you have any takers... >>Cheers, >>Greg Tatarian >>1971 Lotus Elan >>1974 Triumph TR6 >> >> >> >>On 6/30/2010 11:41 PM, Deborah Richardson Richardson wrote: >> >> >>>Hi all. Started the girl this last weekend and she started right up!! (We >> >>have >> >> >>>a switch that turns off the battery.) I would like to get the old man out >> >>of >> >> >>>the house (and away from stamps...his's phelic). When's the next run? >> >>Please >> >> >>>help. ! >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Nobbc mailing list >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc mailing list >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc mailing list >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From michael at dcspg.com Thu Jul 1 18:58:00 2010 From: michael at dcspg.com (michael vogel) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 17:58:00 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Is there a run In-Reply-To: <454B788D-B127-4F6C-8F14-8AD7C9279D16@sonic.net> References: <285682.17845.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C2CB06B.2050403@gmail.com> <005d01cb1931$e728e520$b57aaf60$@com> <4C2CC39A.1010306@sonic.net> <454B788D-B127-4F6C-8F14-8AD7C9279D16@sonic.net> Message-ID: <072d01cb1981$a249c410$e6dd4c30$@com> Wendell, Will they gang turn on me if I show up in something non-brit? Do I get a pass for all my brit run of cars-doretti-vangaurd-TR4-Healey and of course the morgan? :) However, I do understand if its all brit Michael Vogel 415.339.6050 (direct) michael at dcspg.com -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of wendell bain Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:52 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Is there a run That's two of us. Cheers, Wendell 59 Morgan On Jul 1, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > Perhaps we should have a British invasion saturday to celebrate the > 4th. Short notice but anyone want to run with it? > > Ron > 58 MGA > > John Kenner wrote: > >> I'LL GO >> JOHN KENNER >> 510 231 6803 P >> 415 806 2457 C >> 510 231 6805 F >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- >> bounces at autox.team.net] On >> Behalf Of Greg Tatarian >> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 8:13 AM >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Is there a run >> You just missed one, Deborah, but there's nothing to say you can't >> try to put another one together and see if you have any takers... >> Cheers, >> Greg Tatarian >> 1971 Lotus Elan >> 1974 Triumph TR6 >> On 6/30/2010 11:41 PM, Deborah Richardson Richardson wrote: >>> Hi all. Started the girl this last weekend and she started right >>> up!! (We >> have >>> a switch that turns off the battery.) I would like to get the old >>> man out >> of >>> the house (and away from stamps...his's phelic). When's the next >>> run? >> Please >>> help. ! >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jkenner at tamcab.com Thu Jul 1 20:51:38 2010 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 19:51:38 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] HAND COUNT Message-ID: <002601cb1991$7f240350$7d6c09f0$@com> RAISE YOUR HAND, OR SEND IN AN EMAIL IF YOU WANT TO GO FOR A RIDE THIS SATURDAY. IF ENOUGH OF YOU SHOW UP I'LL LEAD A RIDE SOMEWHERE HOPEFULLY ONE OF MY CARS WILL BE RUNNING WELL BY THEN. JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] From nobbc at sonic.net Thu Jul 1 21:04:23 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 20:04:23 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] HAND COUNT In-Reply-To: <002601cb1991$7f240350$7d6c09f0$@com> References: <002601cb1991$7f240350$7d6c09f0$@com> Message-ID: <4C2D5737.1010704@sonic.net> I'm in (but you probably already guessed that). Ron 58 MGA John Kenner wrote: > RAISE YOUR HAND, OR SEND IN AN EMAIL > > IF YOU WANT TO GO FOR A RIDE THIS SATURDAY. > > > > IF ENOUGH OF YOU SHOW UP I'LL LEAD A RIDE SOMEWHERE > > HOPEFULLY ONE OF MY CARS WILL BE RUNNING WELL BY THEN. > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > > tamalpais_s > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From napaguy at comcast.net Thu Jul 1 22:39:41 2010 From: napaguy at comcast.net (napaguy at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 04:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Nobbc] HAND COUNT In-Reply-To: <4C2D5737.1010704@sonic.net> Message-ID: <550124496.47443.1278045581138.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> It has been awhile since I have gone on one of these runs. Now that I have a newer Morgan, this sounds like it will work. Where is the start and at what time? Mel Cohen From sarto477 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 1 23:48:34 2010 From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 22:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] HAND COUNT In-Reply-To: <4C2D5737.1010704@sonic.net> Message-ID: <249355.35158.qm@web113502.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I'm in at this time but might have a conflict and have to pass.SartoLotus coupe --- On Thu, 7/1/10, Ron Engelhardt wrote: From: Ron Engelhardt Subject: Re: [Nobbc] HAND COUNT To: "North Bay British Car Club" Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 8:04 PM I'm in (but you probably already guessed that). Ron 58 MGA John Kenner wrote: > RAISE YOUR HAND, OR SEND IN AN EMAIL > > IF YOU WANT TO GO FOR A RIDE THIS SATURDAY. > > > IF ENOUGH OF YOU SHOW UP I'LL LEAD A RIDE SOMEWHERE > > HOPEFULLY ONE OF MY CARS WILL BE RUNNING WELL BY THEN. > > > JOHN KENNER > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > > > tamalpais_s > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at gmail.com Fri Jul 2 07:23:04 2010 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:23:04 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Is there a run In-Reply-To: <072d01cb1981$a249c410$e6dd4c30$@com> References: <285682.17845.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C2CB06B.2050403@gmail.com> <005d01cb1931$e728e520$b57aaf60$@com> <4C2CC39A.1010306@sonic.net> <454B788D-B127-4F6C-8F14-8AD7C9279D16@sonic.net> <072d01cb1981$a249c410$e6dd4c30$@com> Message-ID: <4C2DE838.1010404@gmail.com> Could get ugly, Michael. Should have seen the crowd when I brought our Alfa years ago - wasn't pretty ;-) . No, seriously, you may hear a few good-natured snide comments, but this is a pretty easy-going group. Come along! Cheers, Greg Tatarian Lotus, Triumph, Alfa michael vogel wrote: > Wendell, > Will they gang turn on me if I show up in something non-brit? Do I get a > pass for all my brit run of cars-doretti-vangaurd-TR4-Healey and of course > the morgan? :) However, I do understand if its all brit > > Michael Vogel > 415.339.6050 (direct) > michael at dcspg.com From jkenner at tamcab.com Fri Jul 2 09:04:27 2010 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 08:04:27 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE ON SATURDAY Message-ID: <000601cb19f7$ddf3f3c0$99dbdb40$@com> LET'S MEET AT BAD ASS COFFEE AT 10AM. MARK WEST SPRINGS ROAD NEAR OLD REDWOOD HIGHWAY JUST EAST OF THE WELLS FARGO CENTER. BRING A FULL TANK OF GAS AND A LUNCH. WHAT'S HAPPENED TO CHERYL AND DENNIS? HAPPY TRAILS, JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] From gtwincams at gmail.com Fri Jul 2 11:09:17 2010 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (gtwincams at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 17:09:17 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE ON SATURDAY Message-ID: Looks like Trish and I are in if we head to the coast where it's cooler. Greg and Trish Tatarian ------Original Message------ From: John Kenner Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net To: 'North Bay British Car Club' ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE ON SATURDAY Sent: Jul 2, 2010 8:04 AM LET'S MEET AT BAD ASS COFFEE AT 10AM. MARK WEST SPRINGS ROAD NEAR OLD REDWOOD HIGHWAY JUST EAST OF THE WELLS FARGO CENTER. BRING A FULL TANK OF GAS AND A LUNCH. WHAT'S HAPPENED TO CHERYL AND DENNIS? HAPPY TRAILS, JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From michael at dcspg.com Fri Jul 2 12:25:27 2010 From: michael at dcspg.com (michael vogel) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 11:25:27 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE ON SATURDAY In-Reply-To: <000601cb19f7$ddf3f3c0$99dbdb40$@com> References: <000601cb19f7$ddf3f3c0$99dbdb40$@com> Message-ID: <083c01cb1a13$f587a740$e096f5c0$@com> Sorry for the confusion but I thought it was on the 4th, Sunday. I just want to confirm its Saturday the 3rd Michael Vogel 415.339.6050 (direct) michael at dcspg.com -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Kenner Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:04 AM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE ON SATURDAY LET'S MEET AT BAD ASS COFFEE AT 10AM. MARK WEST SPRINGS ROAD NEAR OLD REDWOOD HIGHWAY JUST EAST OF THE WELLS FARGO CENTER. BRING A FULL TANK OF GAS AND A LUNCH. WHAT'S HAPPENED TO CHERYL AND DENNIS? HAPPY TRAILS, JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at gmail.com Fri Jul 2 14:08:54 2010 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:08:54 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE ON SATURDAY In-Reply-To: <083c01cb1a13$f587a740$e096f5c0$@com> References: <000601cb19f7$ddf3f3c0$99dbdb40$@com> <083c01cb1a13$f587a740$e096f5c0$@com> Message-ID: <4C2E4756.2000403@gmail.com> We're up for a Saturday, July 3 drive, but not a Sunday, July 4 drive. What's the plan, John and Ron? Greg On 7/2/2010 11:25 AM, michael vogel wrote: > Sorry for the confusion but I thought it was on the 4th, Sunday. I just want > to confirm its Saturday the 3rd > > Michael Vogel > 415.339.6050 (direct) > michael at dcspg.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of John Kenner > Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:04 AM > To: 'North Bay British Car Club' > Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE ON SATURDAY > > LET'S MEET AT BAD ASS COFFEE AT 10AM. > > MARK WEST SPRINGS ROAD NEAR OLD REDWOOD HIGHWAY > > JUST EAST OF THE WELLS FARGO CENTER. > > > > BRING A FULL TANK OF GAS AND A LUNCH. > > > > WHAT'S HAPPENED TO CHERYL AND DENNIS? > > > > HAPPY TRAILS, > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > > tamalpais_s > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From wbain at sonic.net Fri Jul 2 14:15:40 2010 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 13:15:40 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Is there a run In-Reply-To: <072d01cb1981$a249c410$e6dd4c30$@com> References: <285682.17845.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C2CB06B.2050403@gmail.com> <005d01cb1931$e728e520$b57aaf60$@com> <4C2CC39A.1010306@sonic.net> <454B788D-B127-4F6C-8F14-8AD7C9279D16@sonic.net> <072d01cb1981$a249c410$e6dd4c30$@com> Message-ID: Mike, I doubt anyone will care much. Several members own cars other than Brit. I think you sold the Doretti. Don't know the status of the other Brit cars listed here. Is your Morgan not running??? Ciao.... Oops! Cheers, Wendell On Jul 1, 2010, at 5:58 PM, michael vogel wrote: > Wendell, > Will they gang turn on me if I show up in something non-brit? Do I > get a > pass for all my brit run of cars-doretti-vangaurd-TR4-Healey and of > course > the morgan? :) However, I do understand if its all brit > > Michael Vogel > 415.339.6050 (direct) > michael at dcspg.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- > bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of wendell bain > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:52 AM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Is there a run > > That's two of us. > > Cheers, > > Wendell > 59 Morgan > > On Jul 1, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > >> Perhaps we should have a British invasion saturday to celebrate the >> 4th. Short notice but anyone want to run with it? >> >> Ron >> 58 MGA >> >> John Kenner wrote: >> >>> I'LL GO >>> JOHN KENNER >>> 510 231 6803 P >>> 415 806 2457 C >>> 510 231 6805 F >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- >>> bounces at autox.team.net] On >>> Behalf Of Greg Tatarian >>> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 8:13 AM >>> To: North Bay British Car Club >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Is there a run >>> You just missed one, Deborah, but there's nothing to say you can't >>> try to put another one together and see if you have any takers... >>> Cheers, >>> Greg Tatarian >>> 1971 Lotus Elan >>> 1974 Triumph TR6 >>> On 6/30/2010 11:41 PM, Deborah Richardson Richardson wrote: >>>> Hi all. Started the girl this last weekend and she started right >>>> up!! (We >>> have >>>> a switch that turns off the battery.) I would like to get the old >>>> man out >>> of >>>> the house (and away from stamps...his's phelic). When's the next >>>> run? >>> Please >>>> help. ! >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc mailing list >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From Quinphoto at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 2 14:30:20 2010 From: Quinphoto at sbcglobal.net (Quintero) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 13:30:20 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE ON SATURDAY In-Reply-To: <000601cb19f7$ddf3f3c0$99dbdb40$@com> References: <000601cb19f7$ddf3f3c0$99dbdb40$@com> Message-ID: Can I get direction on 101 from S.F. Sent from my iPad On Jul 2, 2010, at 8:04 AM, John Kenner wrote: > LET'S MEET AT BAD ASS COFFEE AT 10AM. > > MARK WEST SPRINGS ROAD NEAR OLD REDWOOD HIGHWAY > > JUST EAST OF THE WELLS FARGO CENTER. > > > > BRING A FULL TANK OF GAS AND A LUNCH. > > > > WHAT'S HAPPENED TO CHERYL AND DENNIS? > > > > HAPPY TRAILS, > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > > tamalpais_s > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From wbain at sonic.net Fri Jul 2 14:25:27 2010 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 13:25:27 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] HAND COUNT In-Reply-To: <002601cb1991$7f240350$7d6c09f0$@com> References: <002601cb1991$7f240350$7d6c09f0$@com> Message-ID: I'm in, but you probably knew that too. Wendell On Jul 1, 2010, at 7:51 PM, John Kenner wrote: > RAISE YOUR HAND, OR SEND IN AN EMAIL > > IF YOU WANT TO GO FOR A RIDE THIS SATURDAY. > > > > IF ENOUGH OF YOU SHOW UP I'LL LEAD A RIDE SOMEWHERE > > HOPEFULLY ONE OF MY CARS WILL BE RUNNING WELL BY THEN. > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > > tamalpais_s > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a > name of image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From Quinphoto at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 2 14:34:31 2010 From: Quinphoto at sbcglobal.net (Quintero) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 13:34:31 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE ON SATURDAY In-Reply-To: <4C2E4756.2000403@gmail.com> References: <000601cb19f7$ddf3f3c0$99dbdb40$@com> <083c01cb1a13$f587a740$e096f5c0$@com> <4C2E4756.2000403@gmail.com> Message-ID: Greg, will my 07 xk fit on the roads we might drive? Roland & Jeanne Sent from my iPad On Jul 2, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > We're up for a Saturday, July 3 drive, but not a Sunday, July 4 drive. What's the plan, John and Ron? > Greg > > > On 7/2/2010 11:25 AM, michael vogel wrote: >> Sorry for the confusion but I thought it was on the 4th, Sunday. I just want >> to confirm its Saturday the 3rd >> >> Michael Vogel >> 415.339.6050 (direct) >> michael at dcspg.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On >> Behalf Of John Kenner >> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:04 AM >> To: 'North Bay British Car Club' >> Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE ON SATURDAY >> >> LET'S MEET AT BAD ASS COFFEE AT 10AM. >> >> MARK WEST SPRINGS ROAD NEAR OLD REDWOOD HIGHWAY >> >> JUST EAST OF THE WELLS FARGO CENTER. >> >> >> >> BRING A FULL TANK OF GAS AND A LUNCH. >> >> >> >> WHAT'S HAPPENED TO CHERYL AND DENNIS? >> >> >> >> HAPPY TRAILS, >> >> >> >> JOHN KENNER >> >> >> >> 510 231 6803 P >> >> 415 806 2457 C >> >> 510 231 6805 F >> >> >> >> >> >> tamalpais_s >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of >> image001.gif] >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jkenner at tamcab.com Fri Jul 2 14:46:46 2010 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 13:46:46 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE ON SATURDAY In-Reply-To: <083c01cb1a13$f587a740$e096f5c0$@com> References: <000601cb19f7$ddf3f3c0$99dbdb40$@com> <083c01cb1a13$f587a740$e096f5c0$@com> Message-ID: <004901cb1a27$b002c790$100856b0$@com> YES SATURDAY JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of michael vogel Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 11:25 AM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: Re: [Nobbc] RIDE ON SATURDAY Sorry for the confusion but I thought it was on the 4th, Sunday. I just want to confirm its Saturday the 3rd Michael Vogel 415.339.6050 (direct) michael at dcspg.com -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Kenner Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:04 AM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE ON SATURDAY LET'S MEET AT BAD ASS COFFEE AT 10AM. MARK WEST SPRINGS ROAD NEAR OLD REDWOOD HIGHWAY JUST EAST OF THE WELLS FARGO CENTER. BRING A FULL TANK OF GAS AND A LUNCH. WHAT'S HAPPENED TO CHERYL AND DENNIS? HAPPY TRAILS, JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jkenner at tamcab.com Fri Jul 2 14:52:58 2010 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 13:52:58 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE ON SATURDAY In-Reply-To: References: <000601cb19f7$ddf3f3c0$99dbdb40$@com> Message-ID: <004a01cb1a28$8e0c35d0$aa24a170$@com> FROM SF: 101 NORTH THRU SANTA ROSA TO THE MARK WEST SPRINGS ROAD EXIT. TURN RIGHT GOOGLE BADASS COFFEE MARK WEST SPRINGS ROAD SANTA ROSA YOUR CAR WILL FIT ON THE ROAD. JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Quintero Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 1:30 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] RIDE ON SATURDAY Can I get direction on 101 from S.F. Sent from my iPad On Jul 2, 2010, at 8:04 AM, John Kenner wrote: > LET'S MEET AT BAD ASS COFFEE AT 10AM. > > MARK WEST SPRINGS ROAD NEAR OLD REDWOOD HIGHWAY > > JUST EAST OF THE WELLS FARGO CENTER. > > > > BRING A FULL TANK OF GAS AND A LUNCH. > > > > WHAT'S HAPPENED TO CHERYL AND DENNIS? > > > > HAPPY TRAILS, > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > > tamalpais_s > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jkenner at tamcab.com Fri Jul 2 14:54:30 2010 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 13:54:30 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] SATURDAY Message-ID: <004b01cb1a28$c4b03f50$4e10bdf0$@com> SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE HOT WE COULD GO STRAIGHT OUT TO THE COAST ( WELL ALMOST STRAIGHT ) AND DOWN TO MARSHALL FOR OYSTERS AGAIN. JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] From gtwincams at gmail.com Fri Jul 2 15:00:44 2010 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:00:44 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE ON SATURDAY In-Reply-To: References: <000601cb19f7$ddf3f3c0$99dbdb40$@com> <083c01cb1a13$f587a740$e096f5c0$@com> <4C2E4756.2000403@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C2E537C.60402@gmail.com> Hi Roland and Jeanne, I'd think so, but I don't know what route John is planning. Cheers, Greg On 7/2/2010 1:34 PM, Quintero wrote: > Greg, will my 07 xk fit on the roads we might drive? Roland& Jeanne > > Sent from my iPad From nobbc at sonic.net Fri Jul 2 15:05:27 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:05:27 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE ON SATURDAY In-Reply-To: <4C2E4756.2000403@gmail.com> References: <000601cb19f7$ddf3f3c0$99dbdb40$@com> <083c01cb1a13$f587a740$e096f5c0$@com> <4C2E4756.2000403@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C2E5497.3010008@sonic.net> John's herding the cats this time but he said previously to meet at 10AM at Bad Ass and to bring a lunch TOMORROW Saturday 7/3. See you then! Ron 58 MGA Greg Tatarian wrote: > We're up for a Saturday, July 3 drive, but not a Sunday, July 4 drive. > What's the plan, John and Ron? > Greg From markdarley at mac.com Fri Jul 2 15:32:59 2010 From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:32:59 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] SATURDAY In-Reply-To: <004b01cb1a28$c4b03f50$4e10bdf0$@com> References: <004b01cb1a28$c4b03f50$4e10bdf0$@com> Message-ID: <84047A44-0EB2-436C-8AD6-29D92BCCF367@mac.com> I have plans In Inverness for the weekend but will try to rendezvous with you for oysters in Marshall as I come up from the south on Saturday (Mill Valley). When you have a route and ETA for Marshall, let me know. Forecast for Marshall is 66F and sunny with winds WNW at 7-14 mph (straight down Tomales Bay). Should be beautiful. Mark '57 MGA Mark Darley markdarley at mac.com 415 381 5452 On Jul 2, 2010, at 1:54 PM, John Kenner wrote: > SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE HOT WE COULD GO STRAIGHT OUT TO THE COAST > ( WELL > ALMOST STRAIGHT ) AND DOWN TO MARSHALL FOR OYSTERS AGAIN. > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > > tamalpais_s > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a > name of image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From napaguy at comcast.net Fri Jul 2 16:26:48 2010 From: napaguy at comcast.net (Mel Cohen) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 15:26:48 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] SATURDAY In-Reply-To: <004b01cb1a28$c4b03f50$4e10bdf0$@com> References: <004b01cb1a28$c4b03f50$4e10bdf0$@com> Message-ID: It looks like I am going to make it also. I a bit confused about lunch. On one email it said bring a lunch, then on this one it shows going to Marshall for Oysters. Mel Cohen 95 Morgan Plus 8 -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Kenner Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 1:55 PM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: [Nobbc] SATURDAY SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE HOT WE COULD GO STRAIGHT OUT TO THE COAST ( WELL ALMOST STRAIGHT ) AND DOWN TO MARSHALL FOR OYSTERS AGAIN. JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jkenner at tamcab.com Fri Jul 2 16:55:51 2010 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 15:55:51 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] LETS GET THIS ALL STRAIGHT ABOUT SATURDAY In-Reply-To: References: <004b01cb1a28$c4b03f50$4e10bdf0$@com> Message-ID: <005401cb1a39$b8f7d9a0$2ae78ce0$@com> GREG HAD A GOOD IDEA ABOUT GOING TO THE COAST SINCE IT WILL BE SO HOT INLAND. SO I HAVE DECIDED WE WILL GO TO THE MARSHALL STORE FOR LUNCH. THEY HAVE OUTSIDE SEATING. YOU CAN BRING A LUNCH OR GET CLAM CHOWDER AND OYSTERS AS WELL AS OTHER NON SEAFOOD ITEMS AT THE MARSHALL STORE. THERE IS PARKING ACROSS THE STREET AT THE POST OFFICE WHICH IS CLOSED ON SATURDAYS. WE WILL MEET AT 10 AND DEPART AT 10:30 SO WE WILL PROBABLY BE IN MARSHALL AROUND 11:30. SO, THAT'S STARTING AT BADASS COFFEE IN NORTHERN SANTA ROSA , OFF OF MARK WEST SPRINGS ROAD AT 10AM AND DRIVING TO MARSHALL VIA THE BODEGA HIGHWAY AND VALLEY FORD FREESTONE ROAD AND HIGHWAY 1, ARRIVING MARSHALL ABOUT 11:30. MY YELLOW TR250 IS DOWN WITH A LEAKING RADIATOR. AND TODAY I HAD TO HAVE THE ELAN TOWED HOME FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER. I WENT TO DOWNTOWN SEBASTOPOL AND WHEN I WENT TO LEAVE IT FLOODED BADLY AND WOULD NOT START EVEN WITH BUMPSTARTING . SO I CALLED AAA AND SAT THERE FOR 1 1/2 HOURS AND WHEN WE GOT IT HOME AND OFF THE TRUCK IT STARTED RIGHT UP. SO IF IT SEAMS FINE TOMORROW I'LL BRING IT, OTHERWISE I WILL LEAD YOU IN MY TOYOTA! JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mel Cohen Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 3:27 PM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: Re: [Nobbc] SATURDAY It looks like I am going to make it also. I a bit confused about lunch. On one email it said bring a lunch, then on this one it shows going to Marshall for Oysters. Mel Cohen 95 Morgan Plus 8 -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Kenner Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 1:55 PM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: [Nobbc] SATURDAY SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE HOT WE COULD GO STRAIGHT OUT TO THE COAST ( WELL ALMOST STRAIGHT ) AND DOWN TO MARSHALL FOR OYSTERS AGAIN. JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at gmail.com Fri Jul 2 17:05:46 2010 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 16:05:46 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] LETS GET THIS ALL STRAIGHT ABOUT SATURDAY In-Reply-To: <005401cb1a39$b8f7d9a0$2ae78ce0$@com> References: <004b01cb1a28$c4b03f50$4e10bdf0$@com> <005401cb1a39$b8f7d9a0$2ae78ce0$@com> Message-ID: <4C2E70CA.4060900@gmail.com> Ron, Would you be able to give John a ride in your MGA? I'm thinking that Bad Ass Coffee is on your way home, so if he leaves his truck there or nearby, say at the park and ride, it might work for you both? Just a thought, so I apologize if it puts you on the spot... Cheers, Greg Tatarian On 7/2/2010 3:55 PM, John Kenner wrote: > GREG HAD A GOOD IDEA ABOUT GOING TO THE COAST SINCE IT WILL BE SO HOT > INLAND. SO I HAVE DECIDED WE WILL GO TO THE MARSHALL STORE FOR LUNCH. THEY > HAVE OUTSIDE SEATING. YOU CAN BRING A LUNCH OR GET CLAM CHOWDER AND OYSTERS > AS WELL AS OTHER NON SEAFOOD ITEMS AT THE MARSHALL STORE. THERE IS PARKING > ACROSS THE STREET AT THE POST OFFICE WHICH IS CLOSED ON SATURDAYS. WE WILL > MEET AT 10 AND DEPART AT 10:30 > SO WE WILL PROBABLY BE IN MARSHALL AROUND 11:30. > > SO, THAT'S STARTING AT BADASS COFFEE IN NORTHERN SANTA ROSA , OFF OF MARK > WEST SPRINGS ROAD AT 10AM > AND DRIVING TO MARSHALL VIA THE BODEGA HIGHWAY AND VALLEY FORD FREESTONE > ROAD AND HIGHWAY 1, ARRIVING MARSHALL ABOUT 11:30. > > MY YELLOW TR250 IS DOWN WITH A LEAKING RADIATOR. AND TODAY I HAD TO HAVE THE > ELAN TOWED HOME FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER. I WENT TO DOWNTOWN SEBASTOPOL AND > WHEN I WENT TO LEAVE IT FLOODED BADLY AND WOULD NOT START EVEN WITH > BUMPSTARTING . > SO I CALLED AAA AND SAT THERE FOR 1 1/2 HOURS AND WHEN WE GOT IT HOME AND > OFF THE TRUCK IT STARTED RIGHT UP. SO IF IT SEAMS FINE TOMORROW I'LL BRING > IT, OTHERWISE I WILL LEAD YOU IN MY TOYOTA! > > JOHN KENNER > > 510 231 6803 P > 415 806 2457 C > 510 231 6805 F From dawsonchurch at gmail.com Fri Jul 2 17:07:00 2010 From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com (Dawson Church) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:07:00 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] LETS GET THIS ALL STRAIGHT ABOUT SATURDAY In-Reply-To: <005401cb1a39$b8f7d9a0$2ae78ce0$@com> References: <004b01cb1a28$c4b03f50$4e10bdf0$@com> <005401cb1a39$b8f7d9a0$2ae78ce0$@com> Message-ID: <969F513E-9C21-4D15-9674-C8C44CABCB9F@gmail.com> Hi John, I can't go, unfortunately. I'm preparing for hearings in DC at which I'm testifying before the House Committee on Veterans Affairs about my PTSD research. You're more than welcome to drive my yellow Lotus. Rick Hobbs just went through the electrics again with a fine tooth comb and it's running like a charm. Just let me know, so I can be sure to be here around 9:45 to meet you. Cheers, Dawson On Jul 2, 2010, at 3:55 PM, John Kenner wrote: > GREG HAD A GOOD IDEA ABOUT GOING TO THE COAST SINCE IT WILL BE SO HOT > INLAND. SO I HAVE DECIDED WE WILL GO TO THE MARSHALL STORE FOR LUNCH. THEY > HAVE OUTSIDE SEATING. YOU CAN BRING A LUNCH OR GET CLAM CHOWDER AND OYSTERS > AS WELL AS OTHER NON SEAFOOD ITEMS AT THE MARSHALL STORE. THERE IS PARKING > ACROSS THE STREET AT THE POST OFFICE WHICH IS CLOSED ON SATURDAYS. WE WILL > MEET AT 10 AND DEPART AT 10:30 > SO WE WILL PROBABLY BE IN MARSHALL AROUND 11:30. > > SO, THAT'S STARTING AT BADASS COFFEE IN NORTHERN SANTA ROSA , OFF OF MARK > WEST SPRINGS ROAD AT 10AM > AND DRIVING TO MARSHALL VIA THE BODEGA HIGHWAY AND VALLEY FORD FREESTONE > ROAD AND HIGHWAY 1, ARRIVING MARSHALL ABOUT 11:30. > > MY YELLOW TR250 IS DOWN WITH A LEAKING RADIATOR. AND TODAY I HAD TO HAVE THE > ELAN TOWED HOME FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER. I WENT TO DOWNTOWN SEBASTOPOL AND > WHEN I WENT TO LEAVE IT FLOODED BADLY AND WOULD NOT START EVEN WITH > BUMPSTARTING . > SO I CALLED AAA AND SAT THERE FOR 1 1/2 HOURS AND WHEN WE GOT IT HOME AND > OFF THE TRUCK IT STARTED RIGHT UP. SO IF IT SEAMS FINE TOMORROW I'LL BRING > IT, OTHERWISE I WILL LEAD YOU IN MY TOYOTA! > > JOHN KENNER > > 510 231 6803 P > 415 806 2457 C > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Mel Cohen > Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 3:27 PM > To: 'North Bay British Car Club' > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] SATURDAY > > It looks like I am going to make it also. > > I a bit confused about lunch. On one email it said bring a lunch, then on > this one it shows going to Marshall for Oysters. > > Mel Cohen > 95 Morgan Plus 8 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of John Kenner > Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 1:55 PM > To: 'North Bay British Car Club' > Subject: [Nobbc] SATURDAY > > SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE HOT WE COULD GO STRAIGHT OUT TO THE COAST ( WELL > ALMOST STRAIGHT ) AND DOWN TO MARSHALL FOR OYSTERS AGAIN. > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > > tamalpais_s > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jkenner at tamcab.com Fri Jul 2 17:28:27 2010 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:28:27 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] LETS GET THIS ALL STRAIGHT ABOUT SATURDAY In-Reply-To: <4C2E70CA.4060900@gmail.com> References: <004b01cb1a28$c4b03f50$4e10bdf0$@com> <005401cb1a39$b8f7d9a0$2ae78ce0$@com> <4C2E70CA.4060900@gmail.com> Message-ID: <005801cb1a3e$46824c70$d386e550$@com> RON, GREG AND DAWSON, THANKS ALL BUT I THINK THE ELAN IS GOING TO THE SHOW TOMORROW. JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Tatarian Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 4:06 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] LETS GET THIS ALL STRAIGHT ABOUT SATURDAY Ron, Would you be able to give John a ride in your MGA? I'm thinking that Bad Ass Coffee is on your way home, so if he leaves his truck there or nearby, say at the park and ride, it might work for you both? Just a thought, so I apologize if it puts you on the spot... Cheers, Greg Tatarian On 7/2/2010 3:55 PM, John Kenner wrote: > GREG HAD A GOOD IDEA ABOUT GOING TO THE COAST SINCE IT WILL BE SO HOT > INLAND. SO I HAVE DECIDED WE WILL GO TO THE MARSHALL STORE FOR LUNCH. THEY > HAVE OUTSIDE SEATING. YOU CAN BRING A LUNCH OR GET CLAM CHOWDER AND OYSTERS > AS WELL AS OTHER NON SEAFOOD ITEMS AT THE MARSHALL STORE. THERE IS PARKING > ACROSS THE STREET AT THE POST OFFICE WHICH IS CLOSED ON SATURDAYS. WE WILL > MEET AT 10 AND DEPART AT 10:30 > SO WE WILL PROBABLY BE IN MARSHALL AROUND 11:30. > > SO, THAT'S STARTING AT BADASS COFFEE IN NORTHERN SANTA ROSA , OFF OF MARK > WEST SPRINGS ROAD AT 10AM > AND DRIVING TO MARSHALL VIA THE BODEGA HIGHWAY AND VALLEY FORD FREESTONE > ROAD AND HIGHWAY 1, ARRIVING MARSHALL ABOUT 11:30. > > MY YELLOW TR250 IS DOWN WITH A LEAKING RADIATOR. AND TODAY I HAD TO HAVE THE > ELAN TOWED HOME FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER. I WENT TO DOWNTOWN SEBASTOPOL AND > WHEN I WENT TO LEAVE IT FLOODED BADLY AND WOULD NOT START EVEN WITH > BUMPSTARTING . > SO I CALLED AAA AND SAT THERE FOR 1 1/2 HOURS AND WHEN WE GOT IT HOME AND > OFF THE TRUCK IT STARTED RIGHT UP. SO IF IT SEAMS FINE TOMORROW I'LL BRING > IT, OTHERWISE I WILL LEAD YOU IN MY TOYOTA! > > JOHN KENNER > > 510 231 6803 P > 415 806 2457 C > 510 231 6805 F _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jkenner at tamcab.com Fri Jul 2 17:35:32 2010 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:35:32 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] deborah richardson Message-ID: <005a01cb1a3f$443d21f0$ccb765d0$@com> I'm just curious if Deborah Richardson and her stamp collecting husband are coming tomorrow since she's the one that started all this going for a ride stuff? JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] From DPaige at srcity.org Fri Jul 9 09:22:29 2010 From: DPaige at srcity.org (Paige, Dean) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 08:22:29 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] FW: [TR] Four TR magnesium wheels for sale/trade Message-ID: <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B9255B74CE98@MAIL5.sr.local> -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Kahler Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 9:08 AM To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Four TR magnesium wheels for sale/trade Listers, I have a set of four magnesium 15" wheels (probably American Racing Silverstones) for sale or trade. If interested contact me off list for details. Thanks, Brad _______________________________________________ Triumphs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dpaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us From ppanther at ix.netcom.com Fri Jul 9 11:44:59 2010 From: ppanther at ix.netcom.com (ppanther) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 10:44:59 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] FW: [TR] Four TR magnesium wheels for sale/trade In-Reply-To: <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B9255B74CE98@MAIL5.sr.local> Message-ID: So how do we contact of Brad off list? Larry Gardini lgardini at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Paige, Dean Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:22 AM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: [Nobbc] FW: [TR] Four TR magnesium wheels for sale/trade -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Kahler Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 9:08 AM To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Four TR magnesium wheels for sale/trade Listers, I have a set of four magnesium 15" wheels (probably American Racing Silverstones) for sale or trade. If interested contact me off list for details. Thanks, Brad _______________________________________________ Triumphs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dpaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ppanther at ix.netcom.com From mvg1 at verizon.net Fri Jul 9 15:12:12 2010 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 14:12:12 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Marin Yacht Club Car and Boat Show - July 10 References: <4BBBD2CA.4040106@sonic.net> Message-ID: Hi Ron, I just noticed that Marin Car and Boat show is tomorrow, are any of our members going to participate? Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 5:33 PM Subject: [Nobbc] Marin Yacht Club Car and Boat Show - July 10 > Marin Yacht Club is having a car show 7/10/10 and we have been invited. > It looks like it may be a jewel of a show and we may want to attend en > masse. I've posted the flyer and application to my ftp site if anyone is > interested. > > ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/hardt/CarShowPoster2010d.pdf > ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/hardt/Entry Application - Car 2010.doc > > Ron > 58 MGA > > > ********************************************************************** > > Hi Ron, > > Marin Yacht Club is having it's 8th classic car and boat show on July > 10. We'd love to have your members participate. > > I'm attaching a poster and an application form in case anyone is > interested. We are having a car and boat show at Marin Yacht Club on > July 10. This is our 8th one. We have cars, classic yachts, new yachts > to tour, food and a beautiful grassy area near our harbor. If you or > anyone in your club would like to display a car or attend, please feel > free to contact me. You can email or send applications in per the > instructions on the form. > > Lee Cordner > 415-455-9192 > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a > name of CarShowPoster2010d.pdf] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/msword which had a > name of Entry Application - Car 2010.doc] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Fri Jul 9 15:39:34 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 14:39:34 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Marin Yacht Club Car and Boat Show - July 10 In-Reply-To: References: <4BBBD2CA.4040106@sonic.net> Message-ID: <4C379716.2030805@sonic.net> I don't know...anyone going, pipe up. I'll be unable to go due to family obligations but it looks like it will be a good show. Ron 58 MGA Mike Gianandrea wrote: > Hi Ron, > > I just noticed that Marin Car and Boat show is tomorrow, are any of our > members going to participate? > > Michael > 64 TR4 From drmartyrayman at gmail.com Fri Jul 9 16:18:38 2010 From: drmartyrayman at gmail.com (Martin Sinai Rayman) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 15:18:38 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Marin Yacht Club Car and Boat Show - July 10 In-Reply-To: References: <4BBBD2CA.4040106@sonic.net> Message-ID: I am going to be there showing my paint chipped, but very presentable '53 'TD. Marty On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: > Hi Ron, > > I just noticed that Marin Car and Boat show is tomorrow, are any of our > members going to participate? > > Michael > 64 TR4 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 5:33 PM > Subject: [Nobbc] Marin Yacht Club Car and Boat Show - July 10 > > > Marin Yacht Club is having a car show 7/10/10 and we have been invited. >> It looks like it may be a jewel of a show and we may want to attend en >> masse. I've posted the flyer and application to my ftp site if anyone is >> interested. >> >> ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/hardt/CarShowPoster2010d.pdf >> ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/hardt/Entry Application - Car 2010.doc >> >> Ron >> 58 MGA >> >> >> ********************************************************************** >> >> Hi Ron, >> >> Marin Yacht Club is having it's 8th classic car and boat show on July >> 10. We'd love to have your members participate. >> >> I'm attaching a poster and an application form in case anyone is >> interested. We are having a car and boat show at Marin Yacht Club on >> July 10. This is our 8th one. We have cars, classic yachts, new yachts >> to tour, food and a beautiful grassy area near our harbor. If you or >> anyone in your club would like to display a car or attend, please feel >> free to contact me. You can email or send applications in per the >> instructions on the form. >> >> Lee Cordner >> 415-455-9192 >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a >> name of CarShowPoster2010d.pdf] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/msword which had a >> name of Entry Application - Car 2010.doc] >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/drmartyrayman at gmail.com > -- Martin Sinai Rayman, D.D.S. Pediatric Dentistry 912 Grand Avenue, #202 San Rafael, CA 94901-3538 Voice: 415.459.1444 FAX: 415.459.1320 Website: http://www.openbigdds.com 1 in 5 - The number of Americans age 16 & over who mountain bike. Shimano/IMBA Eco. Study, 2008 NOTICE: This communication, including any attachments, is confidential and may be protected by privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by telephone or e-mail, and permanently delete all copies, electronic or other, you may have. The foregoing applies even if this notice is embedded in a message that is forwarded or attached. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 026_Vga.JPG] From drmartyrayman at gmail.com Fri Jul 9 16:20:21 2010 From: drmartyrayman at gmail.com (Martin Sinai Rayman) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 15:20:21 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Marin Yacht Club Car and Boat Show - July 10 In-Reply-To: References: <4BBBD2CA.4040106@sonic.net> Message-ID: I meant to add, stop by and say hi. Thanks. Marty and TeD. On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Martin Sinai Rayman wrote: > I am going to be there showing my paint chipped, but very presentable '53 > 'TD. > Marty > > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: > >> Hi Ron, >> >> I just noticed that Marin Car and Boat show is tomorrow, are any of our >> members going to participate? >> >> Michael >> 64 TR4 >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 5:33 PM >> Subject: [Nobbc] Marin Yacht Club Car and Boat Show - July 10 >> >> >> Marin Yacht Club is having a car show 7/10/10 and we have been invited. >>> It looks like it may be a jewel of a show and we may want to attend en >>> masse. I've posted the flyer and application to my ftp site if anyone is >>> interested. >>> >>> ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/hardt/CarShowPoster2010d.pdf >>> ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/hardt/Entry Application - Car 2010.doc >>> >>> Ron >>> 58 MGA >>> >>> >>> ********************************************************************** >>> >>> Hi Ron, >>> >>> Marin Yacht Club is having it's 8th classic car and boat show on July >>> 10. We'd love to have your members participate. >>> >>> I'm attaching a poster and an application form in case anyone is >>> interested. We are having a car and boat show at Marin Yacht Club on >>> July 10. This is our 8th one. We have cars, classic yachts, new yachts >>> to tour, food and a beautiful grassy area near our harbor. If you or >>> anyone in your club would like to display a car or attend, please feel >>> free to contact me. You can email or send applications in per the >>> instructions on the form. >>> >>> Lee Cordner >>> 415-455-9192 >>> >>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a >>> name of CarShowPoster2010d.pdf] >>> >>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/msword which had >>> a name of Entry Application - Car 2010.doc] >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/drmartyrayman at gmail.com >> > > > > -- > Martin Sinai Rayman, D.D.S. > Pediatric Dentistry > 912 Grand Avenue, #202 > San Rafael, CA 94901-3538 > Voice: 415.459.1444 > FAX: 415.459.1320 > Website: http://www.openbigdds.com > > 1 in 5 - The number of Americans age 16 & over who mountain bike. > Shimano/IMBA Eco. Study, 2008 > > NOTICE: This communication, including any attachments, is confidential and > may be protected by privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any > use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > please immediately notify the sender by telephone or e-mail, and permanently > delete all copies, electronic or other, you may have. The foregoing applies > even if this notice is embedded in a message that is forwarded or attached. > -- Martin Sinai Rayman, D.D.S. Pediatric Dentistry 912 Grand Avenue, #202 San Rafael, CA 94901-3538 Voice: 415.459.1444 FAX: 415.459.1320 Website: http://www.openbigdds.com 1 in 5 - The number of Americans age 16 & over who mountain bike. Shimano/IMBA Eco. Study, 2008 NOTICE: This communication, including any attachments, is confidential and may be protected by privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by telephone or e-mail, and permanently delete all copies, electronic or other, you may have. The foregoing applies even if this notice is embedded in a message that is forwarded or attached. From mvg1 at verizon.net Fri Jul 9 17:42:54 2010 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 16:42:54 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Marin Yacht Club Car and Boat Show - July 10 References: <4BBBD2CA.4040106@sonic.net> Message-ID: <5D6D067A13BC451EB29BFA92051DBA66@mike> Hi Marty I can fix the chipped paint aspect of your 53 TD if you like, I'm pretty handy with a sander and a spray gun. Been doing it for many years. Reasonablerates and quick turn around. Michael 64 TR4 707-766-9405 707-849-6986 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Marin Yacht Club Car and Boat Show - July 10 >I meant to add, stop by and say hi. Thanks. Marty and TeD. > > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Martin Sinai Rayman > > wrote: > >> I am going to be there showing my paint chipped, but very presentable '53 >> 'TD. >> Marty >> >> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: >> >>> Hi Ron, >>> >>> I just noticed that Marin Car and Boat show is tomorrow, are any of our >>> members going to participate? >>> >>> Michael >>> 64 TR4 >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 5:33 PM >>> Subject: [Nobbc] Marin Yacht Club Car and Boat Show - July 10 >>> >>> >>> Marin Yacht Club is having a car show 7/10/10 and we have been invited. >>>> It looks like it may be a jewel of a show and we may want to attend en >>>> masse. I've posted the flyer and application to my ftp site if anyone >>>> is >>>> interested. >>>> >>>> ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/hardt/CarShowPoster2010d.pdf >>>> ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/hardt/Entry Application - Car 2010.doc >>>> >>>> Ron >>>> 58 MGA >>>> >>>> >>>> ********************************************************************** >>>> >>>> Hi Ron, >>>> >>>> Marin Yacht Club is having it's 8th classic car and boat show on July >>>> 10. We'd love to have your members participate. >>>> >>>> I'm attaching a poster and an application form in case anyone is >>>> interested. We are having a car and boat show at Marin Yacht Club on >>>> July 10. This is our 8th one. We have cars, classic yachts, new >>>> yachts >>>> to tour, food and a beautiful grassy area near our harbor. If you or >>>> anyone in your club would like to display a car or attend, please feel >>>> free to contact me. You can email or send applications in per the >>>> instructions on the form. >>>> >>>> Lee Cordner >>>> 415-455-9192 >>>> >>>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a >>>> name of CarShowPoster2010d.pdf] >>>> >>>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/msword which >>>> had >>>> a name of Entry Application - Car 2010.doc] >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc mailing list >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/drmartyrayman at gmail.com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Martin Sinai Rayman, D.D.S. >> Pediatric Dentistry >> 912 Grand Avenue, #202 >> San Rafael, CA 94901-3538 >> Voice: 415.459.1444 >> FAX: 415.459.1320 >> Website: http://www.openbigdds.com >> >> 1 in 5 - The number of Americans age 16 & over who mountain bike. >> Shimano/IMBA Eco. Study, 2008 >> >> NOTICE: This communication, including any attachments, is confidential >> and >> may be protected by privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any >> use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is >> strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, >> please immediately notify the sender by telephone or e-mail, and >> permanently >> delete all copies, electronic or other, you may have. The foregoing >> applies >> even if this notice is embedded in a message that is forwarded or >> attached. >> > > > > -- > Martin Sinai Rayman, D.D.S. > Pediatric Dentistry > 912 Grand Avenue, #202 > San Rafael, CA 94901-3538 > Voice: 415.459.1444 > FAX: 415.459.1320 > Website: http://www.openbigdds.com > > 1 in 5 - The number of Americans age 16 & over who mountain bike. > Shimano/IMBA Eco. Study, 2008 > > NOTICE: This communication, including any attachments, is confidential and > may be protected by privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any > use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > please immediately notify the sender by telephone or e-mail, and > permanently > delete all copies, electronic or other, you may have. The foregoing > applies > even if this notice is embedded in a message that is forwarded or > attached. > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at verizon.net From rlmossholder at comcast.net Fri Jul 9 20:58:01 2010 From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 02:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Nobbc] Marin Yacht Club Car and Boat Show - July 10 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1540469040.39132.1278730681962.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I might be able to attend despite the lack of a functioning LBC. The Spitfire is still non-op. I think I will have it back together by the end of August. Cheers, Rich From drmartyrayman at gmail.com Fri Jul 9 21:21:20 2010 From: drmartyrayman at gmail.com (Martin Sinai Rayman) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 20:21:20 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Marin Yacht Club Car and Boat Show - July 10 In-Reply-To: <5D6D067A13BC451EB29BFA92051DBA66@mike> References: <4BBBD2CA.4040106@sonic.net> <5D6D067A13BC451EB29BFA92051DBA66@mike> Message-ID: Thanks Michael, I will keep you in mind. At the moment, I have zero extra cash to spend on the MG. Cheers, Marty On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: > Hi Marty > > I can fix the chipped paint aspect of your 53 TD if you like, I'm pretty > handy with a sander and a spray gun. Been doing it for many years. > Reasonablerates and quick turn around. > > Michael > 64 TR4 > 707-766-9405 > 707-849-6986 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" < > drmartyrayman at gmail.com> > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 3:20 PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Marin Yacht Club Car and Boat Show - July 10 > > > I meant to add, stop by and say hi. Thanks. Marty and TeD. >> >> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Martin Sinai Rayman < >> drmartyrayman at gmail.com >> >>> wrote: >>> >> >> I am going to be there showing my paint chipped, but very presentable '53 >>> 'TD. >>> Marty >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Mike Gianandrea >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ron, >>>> >>>> I just noticed that Marin Car and Boat show is tomorrow, are any of our >>>> members going to participate? >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> 64 TR4 >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 5:33 PM >>>> Subject: [Nobbc] Marin Yacht Club Car and Boat Show - July 10 >>>> >>>> >>>> Marin Yacht Club is having a car show 7/10/10 and we have been invited. >>>> >>>>> It looks like it may be a jewel of a show and we may want to attend en >>>>> masse. I've posted the flyer and application to my ftp site if anyone >>>>> is >>>>> interested. >>>>> >>>>> ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/hardt/CarShowPoster2010d.pdf >>>>> ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/hardt/Entry Application - Car 2010.doc >>>>> >>>>> Ron >>>>> 58 MGA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ********************************************************************** >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ron, >>>>> >>>>> Marin Yacht Club is having it's 8th classic car and boat show on July >>>>> 10. We'd love to have your members participate. >>>>> >>>>> I'm attaching a poster and an application form in case anyone is >>>>> interested. We are having a car and boat show at Marin Yacht Club on >>>>> July 10. This is our 8th one. We have cars, classic yachts, new >>>>> yachts >>>>> to tour, food and a beautiful grassy area near our harbor. If you or >>>>> anyone in your club would like to display a car or attend, please feel >>>>> free to contact me. You can email or send applications in per the >>>>> instructions on the form. >>>>> >>>>> Lee Cordner >>>>> 415-455-9192 >>>>> >>>>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a >>>>> name of CarShowPoster2010d.pdf] >>>>> >>>>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/msword which >>>>> had >>>>> a name of Entry Application - Car 2010.doc] >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Nobbc mailing list >>>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/drmartyrayman at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Martin Sinai Rayman, D.D.S. >>> Pediatric Dentistry >>> 912 Grand Avenue, #202 >>> San Rafael, CA 94901-3538 >>> Voice: 415.459.1444 >>> FAX: 415.459.1320 >>> Website: http://www.openbigdds.com >>> >>> 1 in 5 - The number of Americans age 16 & over who mountain bike. >>> Shimano/IMBA Eco. 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The foregoing >> applies >> even if this notice is embedded in a message that is forwarded or >> attached. >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at verizon.net >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/drmartyrayman at gmail.com > -- Martin Sinai Rayman, D.D.S. Pediatric Dentistry 912 Grand Avenue, #202 San Rafael, CA 94901-3538 Voice: 415.459.1444 FAX: 415.459.1320 Website: http://www.openbigdds.com 1 in 5 - The number of Americans age 16 & over who mountain bike. Shimano/IMBA Eco. Study, 2008 NOTICE: This communication, including any attachments, is confidential and may be protected by privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by telephone or e-mail, and permanently delete all copies, electronic or other, you may have. The foregoing applies even if this notice is embedded in a message that is forwarded or attached. From hawkview at sonic.net Fri Jul 9 22:49:25 2010 From: hawkview at sonic.net (hawkview at sonic.net) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 21:49:25 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] FW: [TR] Four TR magnesium wheels for sale/trade In-Reply-To: <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B9255B74CE98@MAIL5.sr.local> References: <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B9255B74CE98@MAIL5.sr.local> Message-ID: <4c62286d260e0b5342967b6c0ba40026.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> Hi Brad. Do you know the mounting pattern, and offset? Thanks, Clif > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Brad Kahler > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 9:08 AM > To: Triumphs > Subject: [TR] Four TR magnesium wheels for sale/trade > > Listers, > > I have a set of four magnesium 15" wheels (probably American Racing > Silverstones) for sale or trade. > > If interested contact me off list for details. > > Thanks, > > Brad > > _______________________________________________ > Triumphs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dpaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com Mon Jul 12 10:52:58 2010 From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com (sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 09:52:58 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Jag Wheels Message-ID: Hello All, I have two wire wheels in good shape, for an XK 140. They need paint, which I could do, but I have been storing them for 25 years, and it is unlikely that I will be buying a 140 in the near future, so I would like to sell the wheels. I checked with Moss Motors, they do not sell used wheels, but new at $315 each. I would like $200 each, any takers? Michael 64 TR 4 From sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com Mon Jul 12 20:30:11 2010 From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com (sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 19:30:11 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed Message-ID: Hello All, I need a reccomendation for an MG mechanic in the Santa Rosa area. Michael 64 TR 4 From astroplaner at comcast.net Mon Jul 12 22:06:19 2010 From: astroplaner at comcast.net (astroplaner at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 04:06:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <502497690.150735.1278993979520.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> What kind of work you needing done? ----- Original Message ----- From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com To: "nobbc" Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:30:11 PM Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed Hello All, I need a reccomendation for an MG mechanic in the Santa Rosa area. Michael 64 TR 4 _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/astroplaner at comcast.net From markdarley at mac.com Mon Jul 12 22:51:17 2010 From: markdarley at mac.com (MarkDarley) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:51:17 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed In-Reply-To: <502497690.150735.1278993979520.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <502497690.150735.1278993979520.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <91A4421D-3E05-45BB-98F0-CCEFBD1D6CEB@mac.com> Michael Veys Novato 415-847-8870 MarkDarleyPhoto.com Cell 415-310-5252 Sent from location. On Jul 12, 2010, at 9:06 PM, astroplaner at comcast.net wrote: > What kind of work you needing done? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com > To: "nobbc" > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:30:11 PM > Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed > > Hello All, > > I need a reccomendation for an MG mechanic in the Santa Rosa area. > > Michael > 64 TR 4 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/astroplaner at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/markdarley at mac.com From mvg1 at verizon.net Tue Jul 13 07:48:51 2010 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 06:48:51 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed References: <502497690.150735.1278993979520.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: General tuning and mechanicals, cars has Weber carbs. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed > What kind of work you needing done? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com > To: "nobbc" > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:30:11 PM > Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed > > Hello All, > > I need a reccomendation for an MG mechanic in the Santa Rosa area. > > Michael > 64 TR 4 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/astroplaner at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at verizon.net From DPaige at srcity.org Tue Jul 13 09:06:05 2010 From: DPaige at srcity.org (Paige, Dean) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 08:06:05 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] FW: [TR] Four TR magnesium wheels for sale/trade Message-ID: <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B9255B74CE9C@MAIL5.sr.local> -----Original Message----- From: bkahler1 at gmail.com [mailto:bkahler1 at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Brad Kahler Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 6:12 AM To: Paige, Dean Subject: Re: [TR] Four TR magnesium wheels for sale/trade Dean, Somehow I missed your email. Here are links to some pictures I took of the wheels. The last wheel has some slight road rash on the outside rim. The tire width is 5" with what I think is a 3-3/4" offset. >From what people have been telling me these are not Silverstones, they are more than likely Mini-lite magnesium wheels. They were raced by Mike Belfor on his TR3. http://campkahler.com/files/IMG_6157.JPG http://campkahler.com/files/IMG_6158.JPG http://campkahler.com/files/IMG_6159.JPG http://campkahler.com/files/IMG_6160.JPG http://campkahler.com/files/IMG_6161.JPG http://campkahler.com/files/IMG_6162.JPG http://campkahler.com/files/IMG_6163.JPG http://campkahler.com/files/IMG_6164.JPG I'm located in Richmond Kentucky. Thanks, Brad On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Paige, Dean wrote: > Brad, Some interest here in the California North Bay but we need a contact address. > > Deano > > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Kahler > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 9:08 AM > To: Triumphs > Subject: [TR] Four TR magnesium wheels for sale/trade > > Listers, > > I have a set of four magnesium 15" wheels (probably American Racing > Silverstones) for sale or trade. > > If interested contact me off list for details. > > Thanks, > > Brad > > _______________________________________________ > Triumphs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dpaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca > .us From astroplaner at comcast.net Tue Jul 13 09:54:07 2010 From: astroplaner at comcast.net (astroplaner at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:54:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <442667834.11235.1279036447938.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Mike,B I will be out of the area today, but we can talk. My name is Rick Hobbs and I do work on british cars. cell is 707 478 7793 or astroplaner at comcast.net B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Gianandrea" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:48:51 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed General tuning and mechanicals, cars has Weber carbs. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed > What kind of work you needing done? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com > To: "nobbc" > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:30:11 PM > Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed > > Hello All, > > I need a reccomendation for an MG mechanic in the Santa Rosa area. > > Michael > 64 TR 4 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/astroplaner at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at verizon.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/astroplaner at comcast.net From sirplb at aol.com Tue Jul 13 12:12:49 2010 From: sirplb at aol.com (sirplb at aol.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 14:12:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed In-Reply-To: 40038901 References: 40038901 Message-ID: <8CCF0CE2322421F-20BC-2336@webmail-d081.sysops.aol.com> Hi Michael, <> I've had real good service from Bob at Vintage Auto in RP, 584-5100. Over the years there have been lots of MGs, but I don't know anything about them. Cheers, Pat 74 JH 14858 From nobbc at sonic.net Wed Jul 14 12:56:15 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:56:15 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Ride 7/17/10 Message-ID: <4C3E084F.4050303@sonic.net> Our next ride will be this coming Saturday. We will meet at 10AM behind Bad Ass Coffee, Mark West and Old Redwood Hwy. Bring a lunch and plenty of gas. As always, if anyone would like to suggest a destination speak up here otherwise the group present will decide. Our club's ninth birthday will be on 8/4/10. Our tradition is to have a large ride on the closest Saturday out to Fisk Mill Cove for a picnic. So plan on Saturday 8/7 for this event. Details will follow but we usually meet at Warm Springs Dam and head out the bad and beautiful Skaggs Springs Rd. Ron 58 MGA From ppanther at ix.netcom.com Wed Jul 14 15:24:15 2010 From: ppanther at ix.netcom.com (ppanther) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:24:15 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Spitfire sale In-Reply-To: <4C3E084F.4050303@sonic.net> Message-ID: 1-1967 stock but missing parts like the gas tank & starter. Fairly straight but faded and tattered. Probably needs everything to be a car again. 1-1975 with a Buick V6 headers and side pipes. Body is real rough. There is a GM 5 speed trans in the car probably worth the price of admission. Both are on wheels and roll. I have not started the Buick in a few years but the old story ran when parked applies. $600 each or $1000 for the pair. Larry Gardini lgardini at sbcglobal.net 415-509-4571 _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ppanther at ix.netcom.com From rlmossholder at comcast.net Wed Jul 14 16:12:16 2010 From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 22:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Nobbc] Spitfire sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <448174367.33605.1279145536931.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Hi Larry, Could you send me some photos? Thanks, Rich rlmossholder at comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "ppanther" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:24:15 PM Subject: [Nobbc] Spitfire sale 1-1967 stock but missing parts like the gas tank & starter. Fairly straight but faded and tattered. Probably needs everything to be a car again. 1-1975 with a Buick V6 headers and side pipes. Body is real rough. There is a GM 5 speed trans in the car probably worth the price of admission. Both are on wheels and roll. I have not started the Buick in a few years but the old story ran when parked applies. $600 each or $1000 for the pair. Larry Gardini lgardini at sbcglobal.net 415-509-4571 _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ppanther at ix.netcom.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net From hawkview at sonic.net Wed Jul 14 17:16:39 2010 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:16:39 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Spitfire sale In-Reply-To: <448174367.33605.1279145536931.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <448174367.33605.1279145536931.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Hi Larry, What Buick V6 are you talking about? Cast iron, aluminum? I think both were available at one time or another. Did you use Marvel Mystery Oil when you parked it? I would like the photos as well. Clif 74 JH hawkview at sonic.net -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:12 PM To: "North Bay British Car Club" Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spitfire sale > Hi Larry, > Could you send me some photos? > Thanks, > Rich > > rlmossholder at comcast.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ppanther" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:24:15 PM > Subject: [Nobbc] Spitfire sale > > 1-1967 stock but missing parts like the gas tank & starter. > Fairly straight but faded and tattered. > Probably needs everything to be a car again. > 1-1975 with a Buick V6 headers and side pipes. > Body is real rough. > There is a GM 5 speed trans in the car probably worth the price of > admission. > Both are on wheels and roll. > I have not started the Buick in a few years but the old story ran when > parked applies. > $600 each or $1000 for the pair. > > Larry Gardini > lgardini at sbcglobal.net > 415-509-4571 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ppanther at ix.netcom.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From dawsonchurch at gmail.com Thu Jul 15 10:33:24 2010 From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com (Dawson Church) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 09:33:24 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed In-Reply-To: <442667834.11235.1279036447938.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <442667834.11235.1279036447938.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1A1269DC-70FE-41BA-AA2B-6C27628BE25A@gmail.com> Rick works on my cars, he's highly recommended! Dawson On Jul 13, 2010, at 8:54 AM, astroplaner at comcast.net wrote: > Mike,B I will be out of the area today, but we can talk. My name is Rick Hobbs > and I do work on british cars. cell is 707 478 7793 or astroplaner at comcast.net > B > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Gianandrea" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:48:51 AM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed > > General tuning and mechanicals, cars has Weber carbs. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:06 PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed > > >> What kind of work you needing done? >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com >> To: "nobbc" >> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:30:11 PM >> Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed >> >> Hello All, >> >> I need a reccomendation for an MG mechanic in the Santa Rosa area. >> >> Michael >> 64 TR 4 >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/astroplaner at comcast.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/astroplaner at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com From ppanther at ix.netcom.com Thu Jul 15 19:21:29 2010 From: ppanther at ix.netcom.com (LGardini) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:21:29 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Spitfire sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <959097.43988.qm@smtp125.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Cast iron. Oil only on the salad. Sorry about bombing you with a big file but thought anyone interested would want to see the reality of the projects. Larry -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:17 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spitfire sale Hi Larry, What Buick V6 are you talking about? Cast iron, aluminum? I think both were available at one time or another. Did you use Marvel Mystery Oil when you parked it? I would like the photos as well. Clif 74 JH hawkview at sonic.net -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:12 PM To: "North Bay British Car Club" Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spitfire sale > Hi Larry, > Could you send me some photos? > Thanks, > Rich > > rlmossholder at comcast.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ppanther" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:24:15 PM > Subject: [Nobbc] Spitfire sale > > 1-1967 stock but missing parts like the gas tank & starter. > Fairly straight but faded and tattered. > Probably needs everything to be a car again. > 1-1975 with a Buick V6 headers and side pipes. > Body is real rough. > There is a GM 5 speed trans in the car probably worth the price of > admission. > Both are on wheels and roll. > I have not started the Buick in a few years but the old story ran when > parked applies. > $600 each or $1000 for the pair. > > Larry Gardini > lgardini at sbcglobal.net > 415-509-4571 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ppanther at ix.netcom.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ppanther at ix.netcom.com From rlmossholder at comcast.net Fri Jul 16 08:19:33 2010 From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:19:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Nobbc] Spitfire sale In-Reply-To: <959097.43988.qm@smtp125.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1872630112.113407.1279289973882.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Hi Larry, Thanks for the photos. I think that's way too much of a project for me. Cheers, Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "LGardini" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:21:29 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spitfire sale Cast iron. Oil only on the salad. Sorry about bombing you with a big file but thought anyone interested would want to see the reality of the projects. Larry -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Clif & Deborah Williamson Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:17 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spitfire sale Hi Larry, What Buick V6 are you talking about? Cast iron, aluminum? I think both were available at one time or another. Did you use Marvel Mystery Oil when you parked it? I would like the photos as well. Clif 74 JH hawkview at sonic.net -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:12 PM To: "North Bay British Car Club" Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spitfire sale > Hi Larry, > Could you send me some photos? > Thanks, > Rich > > rlmossholder at comcast.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ppanther" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:24:15 PM > Subject: [Nobbc] Spitfire sale > > 1-1967 stock but missing parts like the gas tank & starter. > Fairly straight but faded and tattered. > Probably needs everything to be a car again. > 1-1975 with a Buick V6 headers and side pipes. > Body is real rough. > There is a GM 5 speed trans in the car probably worth the price of > admission. > Both are on wheels and roll. > I have not started the Buick in a few years but the old story ran when > parked applies. > $600 each or $1000 for the pair. > > Larry Gardini > lgardini at sbcglobal.net > 415-509-4571 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ppanther at ix.netcom.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ppanther at ix.netcom.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/rlmossholder at comcast.net From markdarley at mac.com Fri Jul 16 08:43:33 2010 From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 07:43:33 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed In-Reply-To: <1A1269DC-70FE-41BA-AA2B-6C27628BE25A@gmail.com> References: <442667834.11235.1279036447938.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <1A1269DC-70FE-41BA-AA2B-6C27628BE25A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <04C5A475-D687-4A87-8F72-7FF83F7CBD3E@mac.com> I have a general question for all you knowledgable car folks. My 1957 MGA is burning (and loosing but that is another issue) engine oil. One cylinder in particular shows a very black spark plug. Compression is reading 140,140, 120, 140. At what point is lower compression doing damage to the engine as a whole, and necessitates pulling the car off the road for a rebuild? I would like to run it through the summer but do not want to wreck the engine. Thanks for your advice. Mark Mark Darley markdarley at mac.com 415 381 5452 On Jul 15, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Dawson Church wrote: > Rick works on my cars, he's highly recommended! > > Dawson > > > On Jul 13, 2010, at 8:54 AM, astroplaner at comcast.net wrote: > >> Mike,B I will be out of the area today, but we can talk. My name is >> Rick > Hobbs >> and I do work on british cars. cell is 707 478 7793 or > astroplaner at comcast.net >> B >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike Gianandrea" >> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:48:51 AM >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed >> >> General tuning and mechanicals, cars has Weber carbs. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed >> >> >>> What kind of work you needing done? >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com >>> To: "nobbc" >>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:30:11 PM >>> Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed >>> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> I need a reccomendation for an MG mechanic in the Santa Rosa area. >>> >>> Michael >>> 64 TR 4 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/astroplaner at comcast.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at verizon.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/astroplaner at comcast.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/markdarley at mac.com From andypreston at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 16 09:51:11 2010 From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:51:11 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed In-Reply-To: <04C5A475-D687-4A87-8F72-7FF83F7CBD3E@mac.com> References: <442667834.11235.1279036447938.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><1A1269DC-70FE-41BA-AA2B-6C27628BE25A@gmail.com> <04C5A475-D687-4A87-8F72-7FF83F7CBD3E@mac.com> Message-ID: Mark, those readings aren't too bad, in fact my GT was worse before I rebuilt the engine. I'd drive it all summer and think about a rebuild in the winter and even then I'd probably do more research before pulling the engine. It might just be a valve job that's needed. I remember following you down Sweet Water Springs Rd on the Valentine's day tour and you were blowing smoke on the engine over run which usually indicates worn valve guides, which could account for the oil plug on one cylinder. How's the oil pressure? If it's low that's usually more an indication of an engine rebuild. Drive and enjoy all summer. Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Darley Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 7:44 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed I have a general question for all you knowledgable car folks. My 1957 MGA is burning (and loosing but that is another issue) engine oil. One cylinder in particular shows a very black spark plug. Compression is reading 140,140, 120, 140. At what point is lower compression doing damage to the engine as a whole, and necessitates pulling the car off the road for a rebuild? I would like to run it through the summer but do not want to wreck the engine. Thanks for your advice. Mark Mark Darley markdarley at mac.com 415 381 5452 On Jul 15, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Dawson Church wrote: > Rick works on my cars, he's highly recommended! > > Dawson > > > On Jul 13, 2010, at 8:54 AM, astroplaner at comcast.net wrote: > >> Mike,B I will be out of the area today, but we can talk. My name is >> Rick > Hobbs >> and I do work on british cars. cell is 707 478 7793 or > astroplaner at comcast.net >> B >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike Gianandrea" >> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:48:51 AM >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed >> >> General tuning and mechanicals, cars has Weber carbs. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed >> >> >>> What kind of work you needing done? >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com >>> To: "nobbc" >>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:30:11 PM >>> Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed >>> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> I need a reccomendation for an MG mechanic in the Santa Rosa area. >>> >>> Michael >>> 64 TR 4 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/astroplaner at comcast.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at verizon.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/astroplaner at comcast.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/markdarley at mac.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/andypreston at sbcglobal.net From jkenner at tamcab.com Fri Jul 16 10:48:26 2010 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:48:26 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed In-Reply-To: References: <442667834.11235.1279036447938.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><1A1269DC-70FE-41BA-AA2B-6C27628BE25A@gmail.com> <04C5A475-D687-4A87-8F72-7FF83F7CBD3E@mac.com> Message-ID: <005101cb2506$b7159eb0$2540dc10$@com> DRIVE IT TILL THE WHEELS FALL OFF!!!!!!!!! JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of andy preston Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:51 AM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed Mark, those readings aren't too bad, in fact my GT was worse before I rebuilt the engine. I'd drive it all summer and think about a rebuild in the winter and even then I'd probably do more research before pulling the engine. It might just be a valve job that's needed. I remember following you down Sweet Water Springs Rd on the Valentine's day tour and you were blowing smoke on the engine over run which usually indicates worn valve guides, which could account for the oil plug on one cylinder. How's the oil pressure? If it's low that's usually more an indication of an engine rebuild. Drive and enjoy all summer. Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Darley Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 7:44 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed I have a general question for all you knowledgable car folks. My 1957 MGA is burning (and loosing but that is another issue) engine oil. One cylinder in particular shows a very black spark plug. Compression is reading 140,140, 120, 140. At what point is lower compression doing damage to the engine as a whole, and necessitates pulling the car off the road for a rebuild? I would like to run it through the summer but do not want to wreck the engine. Thanks for your advice. Mark Mark Darley markdarley at mac.com 415 381 5452 On Jul 15, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Dawson Church wrote: > Rick works on my cars, he's highly recommended! > > Dawson > > > On Jul 13, 2010, at 8:54 AM, astroplaner at comcast.net wrote: > >> Mike,B I will be out of the area today, but we can talk. My name is >> Rick > Hobbs >> and I do work on british cars. cell is 707 478 7793 or > astroplaner at comcast.net >> B >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike Gianandrea" >> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:48:51 AM >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed >> >> General tuning and mechanicals, cars has Weber carbs. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed >> >> >>> What kind of work you needing done? >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com >>> To: "nobbc" >>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:30:11 PM >>> Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed >>> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> I need a reccomendation for an MG mechanic in the Santa Rosa area. >>> >>> Michael >>> 64 TR 4 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/astroplaner at comcast.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at verizon.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/astroplaner at comcast.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/markdarley at mac.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/andypreston at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jkenner at tamcab.com From markdarley at mac.com Fri Jul 16 10:51:00 2010 From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:51:00 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed In-Reply-To: References: <442667834.11235.1279036447938.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <1A1269DC-70FE-41BA-AA2B-6C27628BE25A@gmail.com> <04C5A475-D687-4A87-8F72-7FF83F7CBD3E@mac.com> Message-ID: <613A7F42-AA25-49F9-AAAD-5CBBDDB1FD4B@mac.com> Andy, Since that run on Sweetwater Springs Rd I spent an afternoon with Basil Adams adjusting the rockers and the carbs. It made a significant difference for a while. At that time it seemed to be more about unburned fuel than oil. The car had a valve job done at about 49,000 miles according to an old reciept I have from 1980. It only had a few miles between then and when I bought it in October. Oil pressure is at about 38 when warm and ticking over and about 60 when hot and running. I am thinking of getting the carbs rebuilt as the throttle is getting stickier. Do you know of a good and less expensive shop that rebuilds SU carbs? Planning on driving it until I cannot! Mark Mark Darley markdarley at mac.com 415 381 5452 On Jul 16, 2010, at 8:51 AM, andy preston wrote: > Mark, those readings aren't too bad, in fact my GT was worse before I > rebuilt the engine. I'd drive it all summer and think about a > rebuild in the > winter and even then I'd probably do more research before pulling the > engine. It might just be a valve job that's needed. I remember > following > you down Sweet Water Springs Rd on the Valentine's day tour and you > were > blowing smoke on the engine over run which usually indicates worn > valve > guides, which could account for the oil plug on one cylinder. > > How's the oil pressure? If it's low that's usually more an > indication of an > engine rebuild. > > Drive and enjoy all summer. > > Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > ] On > Behalf Of Mark Darley > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 7:44 AM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed > > I have a general question for all you knowledgable car folks. > > My 1957 MGA is burning (and loosing but that is another issue) engine > oil. One cylinder in particular shows a very black spark plug. > Compression is reading 140,140, 120, 140. > > At what point is lower compression doing damage to the engine as a > whole, and necessitates pulling the car off the road for a rebuild? > > I would like to run it through the summer but do not want to wreck the > engine. > > Thanks for your advice. > > Mark > > Mark Darley > markdarley at mac.com > 415 381 5452 > > > > On Jul 15, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Dawson Church wrote: > >> Rick works on my cars, he's highly recommended! >> >> Dawson >> >> >> On Jul 13, 2010, at 8:54 AM, astroplaner at comcast.net wrote: >> >>> Mike,B I will be out of the area today, but we can talk. My name is >>> Rick >> Hobbs >>> and I do work on british cars. cell is 707 478 7793 or >> astroplaner at comcast.net >>> B >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mike Gianandrea" >>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:48:51 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed >>> >>> General tuning and mechanicals, cars has Weber carbs. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: >>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:06 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed >>> >>> >>>> What kind of work you needing done? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com >>>> To: "nobbc" >>>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:30:11 PM >>>> Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed >>>> >>>> Hello All, >>>> >>>> I need a reccomendation for an MG mechanic in the Santa Rosa area. >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> 64 TR 4 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/astroplaner at comcast.net >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at verizon.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/astroplaner at comcast.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/markdarley at mac.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/andypreston at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/markdarley at mac.com From astroplaner at comcast.net Fri Jul 16 11:03:44 2010 From: astroplaner at comcast.net (astroplaner at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:03:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed In-Reply-To: <578801209.117715.1279299483189.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <681968628.118015.1279299824183.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Blackness on your spark plugs usually means running to rich in that cylinder, unless the plug is oil soaked. there is hotter plugs, heavier oil such as 50 weight, at this point, these are band aids, till you decide to go through the motor. B I would drive it, You probably want to not be leading the pack, if you are burning oil. Good lu ck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Darley" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 7:43:33 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed I have a general question for all you knowledgable car folks. My 1957 MGA is burning (and loosing but that is another issue) engine B oil. B One cylinder in particular shows a very black spark plug. B Compression is reading 140,140, 120, 140. At what point is lower compression doing damage to the engine as a B whole, and necessitates pulling the car off the road for a rebuild? I would like to run it through the summer but do not want to wreck the B engine. Thanks for your advice. Mark Mark Darley markdarley at mac.com 415 381 5452 On Jul 15, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Dawson Church wrote: > Rick works on my cars, he's highly recommended! > > Dawson > > > On Jul 13, 2010, at 8:54 AM, astroplaner at comcast.net wrote: > >> Mike,B I will be out of the area today, but we can talk. My name is B >> Rick > Hobbs >> and I do work on british cars. cell is 707 478 7793 or > astroplaner at comcast.net >> B >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike Gianandrea" >> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:48:51 AM >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed >> >> General tuning and mechanicals, cars has Weber carbs. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed >> >> >>> What kind of work you needing done? >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com >>> To: "nobbc" >>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:30:11 PM >>> Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed >>> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> I need a reccomendation for an MG mechanic in the Santa Rosa area. >>> >>> Michael >>> 64 TR 4 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/astroplaner at comcast.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at verizon.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/astroplaner at comcast.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/markdarley at mac.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/astroplaner at comcast.net From wbain at sonic.net Fri Jul 16 14:51:37 2010 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 13:51:37 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed In-Reply-To: References: <442667834.11235.1279036447938.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><1A1269DC-70FE-41BA-AA2B-6C27628BE25A@gmail.com> <04C5A475-D687-4A87-8F72-7FF83F7CBD3E@mac.com> Message-ID: Mark, I think Andy is right. I don't know what MG used, but it is probably valve guides or valve stem seals. Either way just carry a clean spark plug on your drives and change it if it becomes fouled. And low oil pressure is usually a better indicator of engine problems. Wendell On Jul 16, 2010, at 8:51 AM, andy preston wrote: > Mark, those readings aren't too bad, in fact my GT was worse before I > rebuilt the engine. I'd drive it all summer and think about a > rebuild in the > winter and even then I'd probably do more research before pulling the > engine. It might just be a valve job that's needed. I remember > following > you down Sweet Water Springs Rd on the Valentine's day tour and you > were > blowing smoke on the engine over run which usually indicates worn > valve > guides, which could account for the oil plug on one cylinder. > > How's the oil pressure? If it's low that's usually more an > indication of an > engine rebuild. > > Drive and enjoy all summer. > > Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- > bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Mark Darley > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 7:44 AM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed > > I have a general question for all you knowledgable car folks. > > My 1957 MGA is burning (and loosing but that is another issue) engine > oil. One cylinder in particular shows a very black spark plug. > Compression is reading 140,140, 120, 140. > > At what point is lower compression doing damage to the engine as a > whole, and necessitates pulling the car off the road for a rebuild? > > I would like to run it through the summer but do not want to wreck the > engine. > > Thanks for your advice. > > Mark > > Mark Darley > markdarley at mac.com > 415 381 5452 > > > > On Jul 15, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Dawson Church wrote: > >> Rick works on my cars, he's highly recommended! >> >> Dawson >> >> >> On Jul 13, 2010, at 8:54 AM, astroplaner at comcast.net wrote: >> >>> Mike,B I will be out of the area today, but we can talk. My name is >>> Rick >> Hobbs >>> and I do work on british cars. cell is 707 478 7793 or >> astroplaner at comcast.net >>> B >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mike Gianandrea" >>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:48:51 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed >>> >>> General tuning and mechanicals, cars has Weber carbs. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: >>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:06 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed >>> >>> >>>> What kind of work you needing done? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com >>>> To: "nobbc" >>>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:30:11 PM >>>> Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed >>>> >>>> Hello All, >>>> >>>> I need a reccomendation for an MG mechanic in the Santa Rosa area. >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> 64 TR 4 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/astroplaner at comcast.net >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at verizon.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/astroplaner at comcast.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/markdarley at mac.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/andypreston at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ > wbain at sonic.net From morrisf at SIDWater.org Fri Jul 16 15:46:29 2010 From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:46:29 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed In-Reply-To: References: <442667834.11235.1279036447938.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><1A1269DC-70FE-41BA-AA2B-6C27628BE25A@gmail.com><04C5A475-D687-4A87-8F72-7FF83F7CBD3E@mac.com> Message-ID: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171AB96@echo01.SID.LOCAL> Speaking of parts...I have two early 1970 MGB motors and trannys, one with overdrive for sale to the Best Offer. I am also parting out my 1971 MGB GT that was in a front end accident. Gauges, interior, glass, etc., are available. If there was ever a case of "she ran fine when I last drove it"...this is it. Email me a fmorris at sidwater.org if you are interested. The body is going to the junk yard pretty soon so any recycling we can do would make me feel better. I live in the Fairfield area if you are interested in viewing any of the items. Frank Parts is Parts -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of wendell bain Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 1:52 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed Mark, I think Andy is right. I don't know what MG used, but it is probably valve guides or valve stem seals. Either way just carry a clean spark plug on your drives and change it if it becomes fouled. And low oil pressure is usually a better indicator of engine problems. Wendell On Jul 16, 2010, at 8:51 AM, andy preston wrote: > Mark, those readings aren't too bad, in fact my GT was worse before I > rebuilt the engine. I'd drive it all summer and think about a > rebuild in the > winter and even then I'd probably do more research before pulling the > engine. It might just be a valve job that's needed. I remember > following > you down Sweet Water Springs Rd on the Valentine's day tour and you > were > blowing smoke on the engine over run which usually indicates worn > valve > guides, which could account for the oil plug on one cylinder. > > How's the oil pressure? If it's low that's usually more an > indication of an > engine rebuild. > > Drive and enjoy all summer. > > Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- > bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Mark Darley > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 7:44 AM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed > > I have a general question for all you knowledgable car folks. > > My 1957 MGA is burning (and loosing but that is another issue) engine > oil. One cylinder in particular shows a very black spark plug. > Compression is reading 140,140, 120, 140. > > At what point is lower compression doing damage to the engine as a > whole, and necessitates pulling the car off the road for a rebuild? > > I would like to run it through the summer but do not want to wreck the > engine. > > Thanks for your advice. > > Mark > > Mark Darley > markdarley at mac.com > 415 381 5452 > > > > On Jul 15, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Dawson Church wrote: > >> Rick works on my cars, he's highly recommended! >> >> Dawson >> >> >> On Jul 13, 2010, at 8:54 AM, astroplaner at comcast.net wrote: >> >>> Mike,B I will be out of the area today, but we can talk. My name is >>> Rick >> Hobbs >>> and I do work on british cars. cell is 707 478 7793 or >> astroplaner at comcast.net >>> B >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mike Gianandrea" >>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:48:51 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed >>> >>> General tuning and mechanicals, cars has Weber carbs. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: >>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:06 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed >>> >>> >>>> What kind of work you needing done? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com >>>> To: "nobbc" >>>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:30:11 PM >>>> Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed >>>> >>>> Hello All, >>>> >>>> I need a reccomendation for an MG mechanic in the Santa Rosa area. >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> 64 TR 4 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/astroplaner at comcast.net >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at verizon.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation B $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/astroplaner at comcast.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/markdarley at mac.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/andypreston at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ > wbain at sonic.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org From rlmossholder at comcast.net Fri Jul 16 16:22:07 2010 From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:22:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Needed In-Reply-To: <420504777.138459.1279318658791.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1720570324.138695.1279318927080.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Hi Mark, It could be bad piston rings on your #3. Bad rings would explain the burning oil, and a black fouled plug. The longer you drive the car with this problem, the more machine work will be required later on due to the increased wear on the cylinder wall. You will also continue to loose pressure on that cylinder due to wear. It will still run for quite a while, and should easily make it to the end of summer. However, you will need to keep up with the loss of oil and should carry a couple of extra spark plugs, just in case. Cheers, Rich M 71 Spitfire From Cem2col at aol.com Sat Jul 17 17:05:28 2010 From: Cem2col at aol.com (Cem2col at aol.com) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:05:28 EDT Subject: [Nobbc] Ride 7/17/10 Message-ID: <36be1.1a5c956d.39739138@aol.com> Greetings all: The Cove Presbyterian Church, (The Cove) is welcoming All Classic and Antique Cars American and British to The Cove meeting place starting at 10:15 a.m. Service. The "guest parking will be on the front lawn at the Church just west of the Ice skating rink on West Steele Lane. You are invited but not required to attend the 10:30 a.m. worship service, if you so desire, and the festivities starting at 11:45 a. m with the singing of "God Bless America." The Picnic will follow with the Congregation providing the food, beverages, hospitality, games, visiting and car conversation's and making new friends all at as guests of the Church. It regrettable that we were unable to post an earlier information memo in the newspaper or the "nobbc" bulletin. Hope to see many of you there, as I'll be at the gate to welcome you. Charles Medcalf 824 1645 '49 Willys Jeepster '50 MK V Jaguar DHC '53 Mk I Sunbeam Alpine From krisk1 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 18 17:33:51 2010 From: krisk1 at yahoo.com (Kris Klein) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:33:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 Starter? Message-ID: <272579.85083.qm@web81907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hoping for suggestions: Just got my Healey back from my mechanics over in Stockton and turned it off in my driveway and now it does not start. It only clicks once. Using my test light and talking to my mechanic I have pinpointed the problem (I think) to a bad starter. I have tried the hammer trick to no avail. I wish the mechanic would have had a crystal ball to see that it was going to go bad because it didn't give any indication. Can anyone suggest a local British car repair shop that I can trust to put in a new starter so I don't have to get my car towed to Stockton? My mechanic is suggesting putting in a newly designed starter with a built in solenoid (higher torque starter ratio or something like that) which requires a little customization during installation. Or does anyone suggest just purchasing a starter on the web or locally and think I can put it in myself? Please email me your suggestions. Thanks, Krissy Klein 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 From wkilch at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 18 18:32:41 2010 From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (wkilch at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:32:41 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 Starter? In-Reply-To: <272579.85083.qm@web81907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <272579.85083.qm@web81907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Krissy Have you checked the charge in your battery? If you don't have a good charger I can lend you one. When you hook it up it tells you the amount of charge in your battery. Walter Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Kris Klein Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:33:51 To: Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 Starter? Hoping for suggestions: Just got my Healey back from my mechanics over in Stockton and turned it off in my driveway and now it does not start. It only clicks once. Using my test light and talking to my mechanic I have pinpointed the problem (I think) to a bad starter. I have tried the hammer trick to no avail. I wish the mechanic would have had a crystal ball to see that it was going to go bad because it didn't give any indication. Can anyone suggest a local British car repair shop that I can trust to put in a new starter so I don't have to get my car towed to Stockton? My mechanic is suggesting putting in a newly designed starter with a built in solenoid (higher torque starter ratio or something like that) which requires a little customization during installation. Or does anyone suggest just purchasing a starter on the web or locally and think I can put it in myself? Please email me your suggestions. Thanks, Krissy Klein 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wkilch at sbcglobal.net From don at napanet.net Sun Jul 18 18:41:33 2010 From: don at napanet.net (don) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:41:33 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 Starter? In-Reply-To: <20100719003221.EDAD9187674@autox.team.net> References: <272579.85083.qm@web81907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100719003221.EDAD9187674@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <20100719013246.628A424DD73@mail.napanet.net> Before you buy a new starter . . . make sure the engine is grounded properly. On these old cars, the ground cable connections from the engine to the frame can be corroded. You can check this easily; just run a jumper cable from the engine to a place on the frame or body and try to start it. And make sure the battery has a good charge, as the charging system may be at fault. Or the battery. Or the starter. At 05:32 PM 07/18/2010, wkilch at sbcglobal.net wrote: >Hi Krissy >Have you checked the charge in your battery? If you don't have a >good charger I can lend you one. When you hook it up it tells you >the amount of charge in your battery. > >Walter >Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > >-----Original Message----- >From: Kris Klein >Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:33:51 >To: >Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club >Subject: [Nobbc] 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 Starter? > >Hoping for suggestions: >Just got my Healey back from my mechanics over in >Stockton and turned it off in >my driveway and now it does not start. It only >clicks once. Using my test light >and talking to my mechanic I have pinpointed >the problem (I think) to a bad >starter. I have tried the hammer trick to no >avail. I wish the mechanic would >have had a crystal ball to see that it was >going to go bad because it didn't >give any indication. > >Can anyone suggest a >local British car repair shop that I can trust to put in a >new starter so I >don't have to get my car towed to Stockton? My mechanic is >suggesting putting >in a newly designed starter with a built in solenoid (higher >torque starter >ratio or something like that) which requires a little >customization during >installation. Or does anyone suggest just purchasing a >starter on the web or >locally and think I can put it in myself? Please email me >your suggestions. >Thanks, >Krissy Klein >1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 From Kris.Klein at sage.com Sun Jul 18 17:31:08 2010 From: Kris.Klein at sage.com (Klein, Kris) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:31:08 -0400 Subject: [Nobbc] 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 Starter? References: <001501cabd73$d855c9b0$89015d10$@com> <4B954E8F.1050003@sonic.net> Message-ID: Hoping for suggestions: Just got my Healey back from my mechanics over in Stockton and turned it off in my driveway and now it does not start. It only clicks once. Using my test light and talking to my mechanic I have pinpointed the problem (I think) to a bad starter. I have tried the hammer trick to no avail. I wish the mechanic would have had a crystal ball to see that it was going to go bad because it didn't give any indication. Can anyone suggest a local British car repair shop that I can trust to put in a new starter so I don't have to get my car towed to Stockton? My mechanic is suggesting putting in a newly designed starter with a built in solenoid (higher torque starter ratio or something like that) which requires a little customization during installation. Or does anyone suggest just purchasing a starter on the web or locally and think I can put it in myself? Please email me your suggestions. Thanks, Krissy Klein 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 From Kris.Klein at sage.com Sun Jul 18 17:35:30 2010 From: Kris.Klein at sage.com (Klein, Kris) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:35:30 -0400 Subject: [Nobbc] OOPS sent email from wrong email account: 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 Starter? References: <001501cabd73$d855c9b0$89015d10$@com> <4B954E8F.1050003@sonic.net> Message-ID: Sorry I sent this email from my work email account and I switched to my personal email. I received a message that this needs to be reviewed because it was sent by a non-member. I re-sent it from my personal email so please delete this email. Thanks, KK -----Original Message----- From: Klein, Kris Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 4:31 PM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 Starter? Hoping for suggestions: Just got my Healey back from my mechanics over in Stockton and turned it off in my driveway and now it does not start. It only clicks once. Using my test light and talking to my mechanic I have pinpointed the problem (I think) to a bad starter. I have tried the hammer trick to no avail. I wish the mechanic would have had a crystal ball to see that it was going to go bad because it didn't give any indication. Can anyone suggest a local British car repair shop that I can trust to put in a new starter so I don't have to get my car towed to Stockton? My mechanic is suggesting putting in a newly designed starter with a built in solenoid (higher torque starter ratio or something like that) which requires a little customization during installation. Or does anyone suggest just purchasing a starter on the web or locally and think I can put it in myself? Please email me your suggestions. Thanks, Krissy Klein 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 From hawkview at sonic.net Sun Jul 18 20:10:34 2010 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:10:34 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 Starter? In-Reply-To: <272579.85083.qm@web81907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <272579.85083.qm@web81907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <118F5F2FAAFB43FEA95ACB241D22DE54@williamsonPC> Hi Kris. Another possibility is that your ring gear on the flywheel is lined up with your starter gear tooth to tooth. This is a very common problem with Jensen Healeys. There is a tendency for the engine to stop in the same place and after a while a flat spot develops on the starter pinion or the ring gear or both. Try putting the car in 2nd gear and rocking it forward a bit. If the car starts there is a very good chance this is your problem. Good luck Clif and Deborah 74 Jensen Healey -------------------------------------------------- From: "Kris Klein" Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 4:33 PM To: Subject: [Nobbc] 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 Starter? > Hoping for suggestions: > Just got my Healey back from my mechanics over in > Stockton and turned it off in > my driveway and now it does not start. It only > clicks once. Using my test light > and talking to my mechanic I have pinpointed > the problem (I think) to a bad > starter. I have tried the hammer trick to no > avail. I wish the mechanic would > have had a crystal ball to see that it was > going to go bad because it didn't > give any indication. > > Can anyone suggest a > local British car repair shop that I can trust to put in a > new starter so I > don't have to get my car towed to Stockton? My mechanic is > suggesting putting > in a newly designed starter with a built in solenoid (higher > torque starter > ratio or something like that) which requires a little > customization during > installation. Or does anyone suggest just purchasing a > starter on the web or > locally and think I can put it in myself? Please email me > your suggestions. > Thanks, > Krissy Klein > 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From gonzosaurs at comcast.net Sun Jul 18 22:02:28 2010 From: gonzosaurs at comcast.net (gonzosaurs at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:02:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Nobbc] 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 Starter? In-Reply-To: <272579.85083.qm@web81907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <914049179.207732.1279512148650.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Had the same problem with my tr-6 and after i cleaned all the connections, it was in fact a bad ground connection. Really take it apart wire by wire and clean all connections. The vibration sometimes allows corrosion to get in. You can check each wire by making a jumper wire with two alligator clips. Be sure to use a thick wire. If none of that works have a shop bench test the starter before you buy a new one. good luck dan, tr6 tr1250 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kris Klein" To: nobbc at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 4:33:51 PM Subject: [Nobbc] 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 Starter? Hoping for suggestions: Just got my Healey back from my mechanics over in Stockton and turned it off in my driveway and now it does not start. It only clicks once. Using my test light and talking to my mechanic I have pinpointed the problem (I think) to a bad starter. I have tried the hammer trick to no avail. I wish the mechanic would have had a crystal ball to see that it was going to go bad because it didn't give any indication. Can anyone suggest a local British car repair shop that I can trust to put in a new starter so I don't have to get my car towed to Stockton? My mechanic is suggesting putting in a newly designed starter with a built in solenoid (higher torque starter ratio or something like that) which requires a little customization during installation. Or does anyone suggest just purchasing a starter on the web or locally and think I can put it in myself? Please email me your suggestions. Thanks, Krissy Klein 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/gonzosaurs at comcast.net From wkilch at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 18 22:22:45 2010 From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (wkilch at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:22:45 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 Starter? In-Reply-To: References: <001501cabd73$d855c9b0$89015d10$@com> <4B954E8F.1050003@sonic.net> Message-ID: If you need someone to check-out your starter I would take it to Delta Battery. You'll have to look them up. They are down off Wilson St.. I've had good luck with them before and they rebuild them there. Walter Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Klein, Kris" Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:31:08 To: North Bay British Car Club Reply-To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 Starter? Hoping for suggestions: Just got my Healey back from my mechanics over in Stockton and turned it off in my driveway and now it does not start. It only clicks once. Using my test light and talking to my mechanic I have pinpointed the problem (I think) to a bad starter. I have tried the hammer trick to no avail. I wish the mechanic would have had a crystal ball to see that it was going to go bad because it didn't give any indication. Can anyone suggest a local British car repair shop that I can trust to put in a new starter so I don't have to get my car towed to Stockton? My mechanic is suggesting putting in a newly designed starter with a built in solenoid (higher torque starter ratio or something like that) which requires a little customization during installation. Or does anyone suggest just purchasing a starter on the web or locally and think I can put it in myself? Please email me your suggestions. Thanks, Krissy Klein 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wkilch at sbcglobal.net From mvg1 at verizon.net Mon Jul 19 08:35:11 2010 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:35:11 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] OOPS sent email from wrong email account: 1959 Austin Healey3000 BT7 Starter? References: <001501cabd73$d855c9b0$89015d10$@com> <4B954E8F.1050003@sonic.net> Message-ID: <7A5436D9A7F14C678876208DDE1DC74A@mike> Hi Krissy, You are getting good advice from the other members, as these cars are very basic, and this type of problem usually has a simple fix. I had the same problem with a bugeye sprite years ago, my father said replace your bendix spring, (Yea sure dad). A buck and a half, and one hour, (to pull and replace the spring) later, my starter worked like new, and any body with two wrenches can do it. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Klein, Kris" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: [Nobbc] OOPS sent email from wrong email account: 1959 Austin Healey3000 BT7 Starter? > Sorry I sent this email from my work email account and I switched to my > personal email. I received a message that this needs to be reviewed > because > it was sent by a non-member. I re-sent it from my personal email so > please > delete this email. > Thanks, > KK > > -----Original Message----- > From: Klein, Kris > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 4:31 PM > To: 'North Bay British Car Club' > Subject: 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 Starter? > > Hoping for suggestions: > > Just got my Healey back from my mechanics over in Stockton and turned it > off > in my driveway and now it does not start. It only clicks once. Using my > test > light and talking to my mechanic I have pinpointed the problem (I think) > to a > bad starter. I have tried the hammer trick to no avail. I wish the > mechanic > would have had a crystal ball to see that it was going to go bad because > it > didn't give any indication. > > Can anyone suggest a local British car repair shop that I can trust to put > in > a new starter so I don't have to get my car towed to Stockton? My > mechanic is > suggesting putting in a newly designed starter with a built in solenoid > (higher torque starter ratio or something like that) which requires a > little > customization during installation. Or does anyone suggest just purchasing > a > starter on the web or locally and think I can put it in myself? Please > email > me your suggestions. > Thanks, > Krissy Klein > 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at verizon.net From millerij at me.com Mon Jul 19 10:09:17 2010 From: millerij at me.com (Ivan Miller) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:09:17 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] 1976 TR6 Triumph Message-ID: <2B97A412-106F-45FD-9809-23A4AE5E137C@me.com> Hey anyone want to buy? I'll come down in price to one of you... Ivan Your ad, titled '1976 TR6 Triumph' has been posted as follows: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto/1847211003.html (cars & trucks - by owner) From nobbc at sonic.net Tue Jul 20 15:55:10 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:55:10 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] Message-ID: <4C461B3E.4020804@sonic.net> This sounds like fun. If anyone is interested please contact Jeniene directly. I would be interested in feedback from anyone who does go, seeing the pictures would be nice also. on 58 MGA -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:01:52 -0700 From: Jeniene White To: nobbc at sonic.net Hello, I was wondering if anyone in the NOBBC would be interested in us using their car in a photo-shoot on Wednesday August 18th from 5-8pm. This is a bridal fashion photo-shoot, and is in the Soma District in San Francisco. We would be willing to offer prints, or up to $100 in exchange. If interested, please contact jeniene at mikelarson.com 805-234-7678. Here is an example of Mike Larson's photography with classic cars: http://www.mikelarson.com/blog/2010/07/photokina_fashion_shoot/ Thank you, Jeniene White Mike Larson Inc. Studio Manager http://www.mikelarson.com From jinger at pacbell.net Tue Jul 20 18:09:35 2010 From: jinger at pacbell.net (Alan and Paula Spencer) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] In-Reply-To: <4C461B3E.4020804@sonic.net> References: <4C461B3E.4020804@sonic.net> Message-ID: <638175.74290.qm@web80405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, it does sound like fun, except that unfortunately, things can go wrong on a photo shoot. Who will pay for any damage caused to the car? Who's liable in the unlikely-but-possible event that somebody gets hurt by the car? Having had experience in the business of using classic cars in photo shoots, special events, videos, etc., this looks to me like an out-of-town wedding photographer trying to get a nice car as a prop for a rate that is probably not really worth the car owner's time and expense. And by the way, that "Chevrolet" in the link they provide looks a lot like a Rambler! Cheers, Alan Spencer Wheels 415 457 3721 www.Wheels-Cars-for-Film.com ________________________________ From: Ron Engelhardt To: nobbc at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 2:55:10 PM Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] This sounds like fun. If anyone is interested please contact Jeniene directly. I would be interested in feedback from anyone who does go, seeing the pictures would be nice also. on 58 MGA -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:01:52 -0700 From: Jeniene White To: nobbc at sonic.net Hello, I was wondering if anyone in the NOBBC would be interested in us using their car in a photo-shoot on Wednesday August 18th from 5-8pm. This is a bridal fashion photo-shoot, and is in the Soma District in San Francisco. We would be willing to offer prints, or up to $100 in exchange. If interested, please contact jeniene at mikelarson.com 805-234-7678. Here is an example of Mike Larson's photography with classic cars: http://www.mikelarson.com/blog/2010/07/photokina_fashion_shoot/ Thank you, Jeniene White Mike Larson Inc. Studio Manager http://www.mikelarson.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jinger at pacbell.net From sonomashoe at gmail.com Tue Jul 20 18:43:47 2010 From: sonomashoe at gmail.com (William Shoemaker) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:43:47 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] In-Reply-To: <638175.74290.qm@web80405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4C461B3E.4020804@sonic.net> <638175.74290.qm@web80405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C4642C3.2010708@gmail.com> Everything you say is probably valid..but as the owner of a '56 Chevy..I can vouch for their '55 4dr wagon..it's all Chevy. - Bill Shoemaker '90 & '92 Jag XJ6's '56 Chevy '61 Caddy RV Alan and Paula Spencer wrote: > Yes, it does sound like fun, except that unfortunately, things can go wrong on > a > photo shoot. Who will pay for any damage caused to the car? Who's liable > in > the unlikely-but-possible event that somebody gets hurt by the car? > Having had experience in the business of using classic cars in photo shoots, > special events, videos, etc., this looks to me like an out-of-town wedding > photographer trying to get a nice car as a prop for a rate that is probably > not > really worth the car owner's time and expense. > > > And by the way, that > "Chevrolet" in the link they provide looks a lot like a > Rambler! > > Cheers, > Alan Spencer > Wheels > 415 457 3721 > www.Wheels-Cars-for-Film.com > ________________________________ > From: Ron Engelhardt > To: > nobbc at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 2:55:10 PM > Subject: [Nobbc] > [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] > > This sounds like fun. If > anyone is interested please contact Jeniene directly. I > would be interested > in feedback from anyone who does go, seeing the pictures > would be nice also. > on > 58 MGA > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Car needed for > Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:01:52 -0700 > From: > Jeniene White > To: nobbc at sonic.net > > > Hello, I was > wondering if anyone in the NOBBC would be interested in us > using their car in > a photo-shoot on Wednesday August 18th from 5-8pm. > This is a bridal fashion > photo-shoot, and is in the Soma District in San > Francisco. We would be > willing to offer prints, or up to $100 in > exchange. If interested, please > contact jeniene at mikelarson.com > 805-234-7678. > Here is an example of Mike Larson's photography with classic cars: > http://www.mikelarson.com/blog/2010/07/photokina_fashion_shoot/ > > > Thank you, > Jeniene White > Mike > Larson Inc. Studio Manager > http://www.mikelarson.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jinger at pacbell.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/sonomashoe at gmail.com From morrisf at SIDWater.org Tue Jul 20 18:44:04 2010 From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:44:04 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] In-Reply-To: <638175.74290.qm@web80405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> I had the same thought regarding not being worth driving in to SF. He did have two links...one rambler the other chevy station wagon. I can't get my own daughter to pose in front of my jag...but that's another story. ----- Original Message ----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Tue Jul 20 17:09:35 2010 Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] Yes, it does sound like fun, except that unfortunately, things can go wrong on a photo shoot. Who will pay for any damage caused to the car? Who's liable in the unlikely-but-possible event that somebody gets hurt by the car? Having had experience in the business of using classic cars in photo shoots, special events, videos, etc., this looks to me like an out-of-town wedding photographer trying to get a nice car as a prop for a rate that is probably not really worth the car owner's time and expense. And by the way, that "Chevrolet" in the link they provide looks a lot like a Rambler! Cheers, Alan Spencer Wheels 415 457 3721 www.Wheels-Cars-for-Film.com ________________________________ From: Ron Engelhardt To: nobbc at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 2:55:10 PM Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] This sounds like fun. If anyone is interested please contact Jeniene directly. I would be interested in feedback from anyone who does go, seeing the pictures would be nice also. on 58 MGA -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:01:52 -0700 From: Jeniene White To: nobbc at sonic.net Hello, I was wondering if anyone in the NOBBC would be interested in us using their car in a photo-shoot on Wednesday August 18th from 5-8pm. This is a bridal fashion photo-shoot, and is in the Soma District in San Francisco. We would be willing to offer prints, or up to $100 in exchange. If interested, please contact jeniene at mikelarson.com 805-234-7678. Here is an example of Mike Larson's photography with classic cars: http://www.mikelarson.com/blog/2010/07/photokina_fashion_shoot/ Thank you, Jeniene White Mike Larson Inc. Studio Manager http://www.mikelarson.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jinger at pacbell.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org From techyes at pacbell.net Wed Jul 21 11:40:59 2010 From: techyes at pacbell.net (Sheryl) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] In-Reply-To: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> Message-ID: <548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I really like the stains in the headliner of the car above the brides head. Now that is class! (photo next to steering wheel with 'R' logo) I think our cars are way too nice for this guy. Sheryl 76 MGB x2 ________________________________ From: Frank Morris To: nobbc at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 5:44:04 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] I had the same thought regarding not being worth driving in to SF. He did have two links...one rambler the other chevy station wagon. I can't get my own daughter to pose in front of my jag...but that's another story. ----- Original Message ----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Tue Jul 20 17:09:35 2010 Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] Yes, it does sound like fun, except that unfortunately, things can go wrong on a photo shoot. Who will pay for any damage caused to the car? Who's liable in the unlikely-but-possible event that somebody gets hurt by the car? Having had experience in the business of using classic cars in photo shoots, special events, videos, etc., this looks to me like an out-of-town wedding photographer trying to get a nice car as a prop for a rate that is probably not really worth the car owner's time and expense. And by the way, that "Chevrolet" in the link they provide looks a lot like a Rambler! Cheers, Alan Spencer Wheels 415 457 3721 www.Wheels-Cars-for-Film.com ________________________________ From: Ron Engelhardt To: nobbc at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 2:55:10 PM Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] This sounds like fun. If anyone is interested please contact Jeniene directly. I would be interested in feedback from anyone who does go, seeing the pictures would be nice also. on 58 MGA -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:01:52 -0700 From: Jeniene White To: nobbc at sonic.net Hello, I was wondering if anyone in the NOBBC would be interested in us using their car in a photo-shoot on Wednesday August 18th from 5-8pm. This is a bridal fashion photo-shoot, and is in the Soma District in San Francisco. We would be willing to offer prints, or up to $100 in exchange. If interested, please contact jeniene at mikelarson.com 805-234-7678. Here is an example of Mike Larson's photography with classic cars: http://www.mikelarson.com/blog/2010/07/photokina_fashion_shoot/ Thank you, Jeniene White Mike Larson Inc. Studio Manager http://www.mikelarson.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jinger at pacbell.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/techyes at pacbell.net From nobbc at sonic.net Wed Jul 21 15:39:35 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:39:35 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] In-Reply-To: <548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C476917.6090805@sonic.net> Well, it is a Rambler...shocking that it wasn't crushed decades ago. My wife had a Rambler back in the day, it leaked a lot and the door hardware would freeze in the winter so the door would pop open rounding a turn and the locks could not be turned with the key. On really cold days, the door had to be tied shut necessitating leaving the windows cracked open. The mighty Rambler heater would heat up the inside enough that you could almost not see your breath. Gotta wonder about the likelyhood of a marriage succeeding with a couple choosing THAT car ;-0 Ron 58 MGA (probably the same vintage as the Rambler) Sheryl wrote: > I really like the stains in the headliner of the car above the brides head. Now > that is class! > (photo next to steering wheel with 'R' logo) > > > I think our cars are way too nice for this guy. > > Sheryl > 76 MGB x2 From millerij at me.com Wed Jul 21 16:08:24 2010 From: millerij at me.com (Ivan Miller) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:08:24 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] In-Reply-To: <548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com> Classic! Cr#p... LOL Ivan On Jul 21, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Sheryl wrote: > I really like the stains in the headliner of the car above the > brides head. Now > that is class! > (photo next to steering wheel with 'R' logo) > > > I think our cars are way too nice for this guy. > > Sheryl > 76 MGB x2 > > > ________________________________ > From: Frank Morris > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 5:44:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] > > I had the same thought regarding not being worth driving in to SF. > He did have > two links...one rambler the other chevy station wagon. I can't get > my own > daughter to pose in front of my jag...but that's another story. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > To: North Bay British Car Club > Sent: Tue Jul 20 17:09:35 2010 > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] > > Yes, it does sound like fun, except that unfortunately, things can > go wrong > on > a > photo shoot. Who will pay for any damage caused to the car? Who's > liable > in > the unlikely-but-possible event that somebody gets hurt by the car? > Having had experience in the business of using classic cars in photo > shoots, > special events, videos, etc., this looks to me like an out-of-town > wedding > photographer trying to get a nice car as a prop for a rate that is > probably > not > really worth the car owner's time and expense. > > > And by the way, that > "Chevrolet" in the link they provide looks a lot like a > Rambler! > > Cheers, > Alan Spencer > Wheels > 415 457 3721 > www.Wheels-Cars-for-Film.com > ________________________________ > From: Ron Engelhardt > To: > nobbc at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 2:55:10 PM > Subject: [Nobbc] > [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] > > This sounds like fun. If > anyone is interested please contact Jeniene directly. I > would be interested > in feedback from anyone who does go, seeing the pictures > would be nice also. > on > 58 MGA > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Car needed for > Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:01:52 -0700 > From: > Jeniene White > To: nobbc at sonic.net > > > Hello, I was > wondering if anyone in the NOBBC would be interested in us > using their car in > a photo-shoot on Wednesday August 18th from 5-8pm. > This is a bridal fashion > photo-shoot, and is in the Soma District in San > Francisco. We would be > willing to offer prints, or up to $100 in > exchange. If interested, please > contact jeniene at mikelarson.com > 805-234-7678. > Here is an example of Mike Larson's photography with classic cars: > http://www.mikelarson.com/blog/2010/07/photokina_fashion_shoot/ > > > Thank you, > Jeniene White > Mike > Larson Inc. Studio Manager > http://www.mikelarson.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jinger at pacbell.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/techyes at pacbell.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/millerij at mac.com From morrisf at SIDWater.org Wed Jul 21 16:55:26 2010 From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:55:26 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] In-Reply-To: <4C476917.6090805@sonic.net> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL><548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4C476917.6090805@sonic.net> Message-ID: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABC9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> The Ramblers were also notorious for having completely reclining seat backs...creating the somewhat dubious statistic about Ramblers being responsible for many midnight trysts and consequential births. -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 2:40 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] Well, it is a Rambler...shocking that it wasn't crushed decades ago. My wife had a Rambler back in the day, it leaked a lot and the door hardware would freeze in the winter so the door would pop open rounding a turn and the locks could not be turned with the key. On really cold days, the door had to be tied shut necessitating leaving the windows cracked open. The mighty Rambler heater would heat up the inside enough that you could almost not see your breath. Gotta wonder about the likelyhood of a marriage succeeding with a couple choosing THAT car ;-0 Ron 58 MGA (probably the same vintage as the Rambler) Sheryl wrote: > I really like the stains in the headliner of the car above the brides head. Now > that is class! > (photo next to steering wheel with 'R' logo) > > > I think our cars are way too nice for this guy. > > Sheryl > 76 MGB x2 _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org From norman.weinfeld at gmail.com Wed Jul 21 17:58:13 2010 From: norman.weinfeld at gmail.com (Norman S. Weinfeld) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:58:13 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] In-Reply-To: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABC9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4C476917.6090805@sonic.net> <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABC9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> Message-ID: Midnight Ramblers? On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Frank Morris wrote: > The Ramblers were also notorious for having completely reclining seat > backs...creating the somewhat dubious statistic about Ramblers being > responsible for many midnight trysts and consequential births. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 2:40 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] > > Well, it is a Rambler...shocking that it wasn't crushed decades ago. My > wife had a Rambler back in the day, it leaked a lot and the door > hardware would freeze in the winter so the door would pop open rounding > a turn and the locks could not be turned with the key. On really cold > days, the door had to be tied shut necessitating leaving the windows > cracked open. The mighty Rambler heater would heat up the inside enough > that you could almost not see your breath. Gotta wonder about the > likelyhood of a marriage succeeding with a couple choosing THAT car ;-0 > > Ron > 58 MGA (probably the same vintage as the Rambler) > > Sheryl wrote: > > I really like the stains in the headliner of the car above the brides > head. Now > > that is class! > > (photo next to steering wheel with 'R' logo) > > > > > > I think our cars are way too nice for this guy. > > > > Sheryl > > 76 MGB x2 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com From sonomashoe at gmail.com Wed Jul 21 18:05:58 2010 From: sonomashoe at gmail.com (William Shoemaker) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:05:58 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] In-Reply-To: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABC9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL><548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4C476917.6090805@sonic.net> <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABC9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> Message-ID: <4C478B66.1000303@gmail.com> Been there...done that...LOL! Had a '69 Ambassador back in the day. Bill XJ6's Frank Morris wrote: > The Ramblers were also notorious for having completely reclining seat > backs...creating the somewhat dubious statistic about Ramblers being > responsible for many midnight trysts and consequential births. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 2:40 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] > > Well, it is a Rambler...shocking that it wasn't crushed decades ago. My > wife had a Rambler back in the day, it leaked a lot and the door > hardware would freeze in the winter so the door would pop open rounding > a turn and the locks could not be turned with the key. On really cold > days, the door had to be tied shut necessitating leaving the windows > cracked open. The mighty Rambler heater would heat up the inside enough > that you could almost not see your breath. Gotta wonder about the > likelyhood of a marriage succeeding with a couple choosing THAT car ;-0 > > Ron > 58 MGA (probably the same vintage as the Rambler) > > Sheryl wrote: > >> I really like the stains in the headliner of the car above the brides >> > head. Now > >> that is class! >> (photo next to steering wheel with 'R' logo) >> >> >> I think our cars are way too nice for this guy. >> >> Sheryl >> 76 MGB x2 >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/sonomashoe at gmail.com From DPaige at srcity.org Thu Jul 22 10:04:56 2010 From: DPaige at srcity.org (Paige, Dean) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:04:56 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only In-Reply-To: <2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com> Message-ID: <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local> Hey guys. I have been having cooling problems on my TR-6. I put in a 14" electric fan after a complete engine rebuild a few years ago. The fan can't keep the temp down on hot days and so often causes vapor lock issues. Oh well! So, to resolve the problem I bought the newly recreated 13 blade belt driven fan from Moss. This part had been out of production for at least 20 years. It was designed to push enough air to solve the problems associated with the fuel injection system cooling problems in the later TR-6s. One critical part in the installation was missing from my parts, a fan extension Adaptor listed NA in all available catalogs. Looked around locally and couldn't source one. Decided on a whim to call someone I hadn't dealt with in years since there was Moss et al available, Wayne Bier now operating out of Stockton. I bought from him on a number of occasions in the late 70's through the 80s over the years I was living in Santa Barbara Wayne works almost exclusively through e-mail now. I e-mailed him yesterday morning with info on the part I needed. Within a couple of hours he contacted me and let me know he had to Adaptor on hand for $35. It was sent out yesterday afternoon. In talking with Wayne he let me know that he really didn't particularly like to work but that he is still in business. Wayne has collected warehouses of Triumph parts. So many that he has had to sell for scrap 8 TONS!! of parts and equipment for Triumphs in the last couple of years. OH MY!! A large stockpile remains. If you need it he likely has it. No doubt Wayne is out of the ordinary and maybe a bit quirky but so are most of us. Anyway if you are looking for those hard to find necessities I think he is the go to guy. I have no financial interest but I know a good deal when I see it. Just thought you would all like to know. His contact info is. Wayne Bier, Owner Triumphs Only Stockton CA 95205 PH: 209-939-1020 Email: trnut at aol.com Web: www.triumphsonly.com On Jul 21, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Sheryl wrote: > I really like the stains in the headliner of the car above the brides > head. Now that is class! > (photo next to steering wheel with 'R' logo) > > > I think our cars are way too nice for this guy. > > Sheryl > 76 MGB x2 > > > ________________________________ > From: Frank Morris > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 5:44:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] > > I had the same thought regarding not being worth driving in to SF. > He did have > two links...one rambler the other chevy station wagon. I can't get my > own daughter to pose in front of my jag...but that's another story. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > To: North Bay British Car Club > Sent: Tue Jul 20 17:09:35 2010 > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] > > Yes, it does sound like fun, except that unfortunately, things can go > wrong on a photo shoot. Who will pay for any damage caused to the > car? Who's liable in the unlikely-but-possible event that somebody > gets hurt by the car? > Having had experience in the business of using classic cars in photo > shoots, special events, videos, etc., this looks to me like an > out-of-town wedding photographer trying to get a nice car as a prop > for a rate that is probably not really worth the car owner's time and > expense. > > > And by the way, that > "Chevrolet" in the link they provide looks a lot like a Rambler! > > Cheers, > Alan Spencer > Wheels > 415 457 3721 > www.Wheels-Cars-for-Film.com > ________________________________ > From: Ron Engelhardt > To: > nobbc at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 2:55:10 PM > Subject: [Nobbc] > [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] > > This sounds like fun. If > anyone is interested please contact Jeniene directly. I would be > interested in feedback from anyone who does go, seeing the pictures > would be nice also. > on > 58 MGA > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Car needed for > Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:01:52 -0700 > From: > Jeniene White > To: nobbc at sonic.net > > > Hello, I was > wondering if anyone in the NOBBC would be interested in us using their > car in a photo-shoot on Wednesday August 18th from 5-8pm. > This is a bridal fashion > photo-shoot, and is in the Soma District in San Francisco. We would > be willing to offer prints, or up to $100 in exchange. If interested, > please contact jeniene at mikelarson.com > 805-234-7678. > Here is an example of Mike Larson's photography with classic cars: > http://www.mikelarson.com/blog/2010/07/photokina_fashion_shoot/ > > > Thank you, > Jeniene White > Mike > Larson Inc. Studio Manager > http://www.mikelarson.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jinger at pacbell.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/techyes at pacbell.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/millerij at mac.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dpaige at srcity.org From jkenner at tamcab.com Thu Jul 22 11:35:07 2010 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:35:07 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only In-Reply-To: <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local> Message-ID: <005301cb29c4$3a797bc0$af6c7340$@com> DEENO, GO TO www.wizardcooling.com AND LOOK AT WIZARD COOLING. I JUST BOUGHT AN ALUMINUM RADIATOR FROM THEM FOR THE TR250 AND NOW WITH MY 14" FAN IT WILL NEVER OVERHEAT. JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paige, Dean Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:05 AM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only Hey guys. I have been having cooling problems on my TR-6. I put in a 14" electric fan after a complete engine rebuild a few years ago. The fan can't keep the temp down on hot days and so often causes vapor lock issues. Oh well! So, to resolve the problem I bought the newly recreated 13 blade belt driven fan from Moss. This part had been out of production for at least 20 years. It was designed to push enough air to solve the problems associated with the fuel injection system cooling problems in the later TR-6s. One critical part in the installation was missing from my parts, a fan extension Adaptor listed NA in all available catalogs. Looked around locally and couldn't source one. Decided on a whim to call someone I hadn't dealt with in years since there was Moss et al available, Wayne Bier now operating out of Stockton. I bought from him on a number of occasions in the late 70's through the 80s over the years I was living in Santa Barbara Wayne works almost exclusively through e-mail now. I e-mailed him yesterday morning with info on the part I needed. Within a couple of hours he contacted me and let me know he had to Adaptor on hand for $35. It was sent out yesterday afternoon. In talking with Wayne he let me know that he really didn't particularly like to work but that he is still in business. Wayne has collected warehouses of Triumph parts. So many that he has had to sell for scrap 8 TONS!! of parts and equipment for Triumphs in the last couple of years. OH MY!! A large stockpile remains. If you need it he likely has it. No doubt Wayne is out of the ordinary and maybe a bit quirky but so are most of us. Anyway if you are looking for those hard to find necessities I think he is the go to guy. I have no financial interest but I know a good deal when I see it. Just thought you would all like to know. His contact info is. Wayne Bier, Owner Triumphs Only Stockton CA 95205 PH: 209-939-1020 Email: trnut at aol.com Web: www.triumphsonly.com On Jul 21, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Sheryl wrote: > I really like the stains in the headliner of the car above the brides > head. Now that is class! > (photo next to steering wheel with 'R' logo) > > > I think our cars are way too nice for this guy. > > Sheryl > 76 MGB x2 > > > ________________________________ > From: Frank Morris > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 5:44:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] > > I had the same thought regarding not being worth driving in to SF. > He did have > two links...one rambler the other chevy station wagon. I can't get my > own daughter to pose in front of my jag...but that's another story. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > To: North Bay British Car Club > Sent: Tue Jul 20 17:09:35 2010 > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] > > Yes, it does sound like fun, except that unfortunately, things can go > wrong on a photo shoot. Who will pay for any damage caused to the > car? Who's liable in the unlikely-but-possible event that somebody > gets hurt by the car? > Having had experience in the business of using classic cars in photo > shoots, special events, videos, etc., this looks to me like an > out-of-town wedding photographer trying to get a nice car as a prop > for a rate that is probably not really worth the car owner's time and > expense. > > > And by the way, that > "Chevrolet" in the link they provide looks a lot like a Rambler! > > Cheers, > Alan Spencer > Wheels > 415 457 3721 > www.Wheels-Cars-for-Film.com > ________________________________ > From: Ron Engelhardt > To: > nobbc at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 2:55:10 PM > Subject: [Nobbc] > [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] > > This sounds like fun. If > anyone is interested please contact Jeniene directly. I would be > interested in feedback from anyone who does go, seeing the pictures > would be nice also. > on > 58 MGA > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Car needed for > Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:01:52 -0700 > From: > Jeniene White > To: nobbc at sonic.net > > > Hello, I was > wondering if anyone in the NOBBC would be interested in us using their > car in a photo-shoot on Wednesday August 18th from 5-8pm. > This is a bridal fashion > photo-shoot, and is in the Soma District in San Francisco. We would > be willing to offer prints, or up to $100 in exchange. If interested, > please contact jeniene at mikelarson.com > 805-234-7678. > Here is an example of Mike Larson's photography with classic cars: > http://www.mikelarson.com/blog/2010/07/photokina_fashion_shoot/ > > > Thank you, > Jeniene White > Mike > Larson Inc. Studio Manager > http://www.mikelarson.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jinger at pacbell.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/techyes at pacbell.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/millerij at mac.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dpaige at srcity.org _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jkenner at tamcab.com From mvg1 at verizon.net Thu Jul 22 11:39:50 2010 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:39:50 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local> Message-ID: <0BD748B511404BB186BE080C8011F3F5@mike> Hi All, Not only does (Wayne) Triumphs Only have a lot of older hard to find parts, but he is very knowledgable, and 15% less expensive than Moss, and if you buy from him, you use Moss part numbers less the discount, and if he doesn't have it, it will ship from Moss's inventory at Wayne's price. Who doesn't want to save a couple of bucks? Speaking of old parts, for our Jaguar friends, I have two wire wheels from one of my 56 /57 XK140's that I would like to sell. They are in good shape, but need paint, I can do this or you can take them to Ken's Wheel Service in the city. Moss sells new wheels only for $315 each, I would like $200 each. Any takers? Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paige, Dean" To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:04 AM Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > Hey guys. I have been having cooling problems on my TR-6. I put in a 14" > electric fan after a complete engine rebuild a few years ago. The fan > can't > keep the temp down on hot days and so often causes vapor lock issues. Oh > well! > So, to resolve the problem I bought the newly recreated 13 blade belt > driven > fan from Moss. This part had been out of production for at least 20 years. > It > was designed to push enough air to solve the problems associated with the > fuel > injection system cooling problems in the later TR-6s. One critical part in > the > installation was missing from my parts, a fan extension Adaptor listed NA > in > all available catalogs. Looked around locally and couldn't source one. > Decided > on a whim to call someone I hadn't dealt with in years since there was > Moss et > al available, Wayne Bier now operating out of Stockton. I bought from him > on a > number of occasions in the late 70's through the 80s over the years I was > living in Santa Barbara > > Wayne works almost exclusively through e-mail now. I e-mailed him > yesterday > morning with info on the part I needed. Within a couple of hours he > contacted > me and let me know he had to Adaptor on hand for $35. It was sent out > yesterday afternoon. > > In talking with Wayne he let me know that he really didn't particularly > like > to work but that he is still in business. Wayne has collected warehouses > of > Triumph parts. So many that he has had to sell for scrap 8 TONS!! of parts > and > equipment for Triumphs in the last couple of years. OH MY!! A large > stockpile > remains. If you need it he likely has it. No doubt Wayne is out of the > ordinary and maybe a bit quirky but so are most of us. > > Anyway if you are looking for those hard to find necessities I think he is > the > go to guy. I have no financial interest but I know a good deal when I see > it. > Just thought you would all like to know. His contact info is. > > Wayne Bier, Owner > Triumphs Only > Stockton CA 95205 > PH: 209-939-1020 > Email: trnut at aol.com > Web: www.triumphsonly.com > > > > On Jul 21, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Sheryl wrote: > >> I really like the stains in the headliner of the car above the brides >> head. Now that is class! >> (photo next to steering wheel with 'R' logo) >> >> >> I think our cars are way too nice for this guy. >> >> Sheryl >> 76 MGB x2 >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Frank Morris >> To: nobbc at autox.team.net >> Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 5:44:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] >> >> I had the same thought regarding not being worth driving in to SF. >> He did have >> two links...one rambler the other chevy station wagon. I can't get my >> own daughter to pose in front of my jag...but that's another story. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> Sent: Tue Jul 20 17:09:35 2010 >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] >> >> Yes, it does sound like fun, except that unfortunately, things can go >> wrong on a photo shoot. Who will pay for any damage caused to the >> car? Who's liable in the unlikely-but-possible event that somebody >> gets hurt by the car? >> Having had experience in the business of using classic cars in photo >> shoots, special events, videos, etc., this looks to me like an >> out-of-town wedding photographer trying to get a nice car as a prop >> for a rate that is probably not really worth the car owner's time and >> expense. >> >> >> And by the way, that >> "Chevrolet" in the link they provide looks a lot like a Rambler! >> >> Cheers, >> Alan Spencer >> Wheels >> 415 457 3721 >> www.Wheels-Cars-for-Film.com >> ________________________________ >> From: Ron Engelhardt >> To: >> nobbc at autox.team.net >> Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 2:55:10 PM >> Subject: [Nobbc] >> [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] >> >> This sounds like fun. If >> anyone is interested please contact Jeniene directly. I would be >> interested in feedback from anyone who does go, seeing the pictures >> would be nice also. >> on >> 58 MGA >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Car needed for >> Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot >> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:01:52 -0700 >> From: >> Jeniene White >> To: nobbc at sonic.net >> >> >> Hello, I was >> wondering if anyone in the NOBBC would be interested in us using their >> car in a photo-shoot on Wednesday August 18th from 5-8pm. >> This is a bridal fashion >> photo-shoot, and is in the Soma District in San Francisco. We would >> be willing to offer prints, or up to $100 in exchange. If interested, >> please contact jeniene at mikelarson.com >> 805-234-7678. >> Here is an example of Mike Larson's photography with classic cars: >> http://www.mikelarson.com/blog/2010/07/photokina_fashion_shoot/ >> >> >> Thank you, >> Jeniene White >> Mike >> Larson Inc. Studio Manager >> http://www.mikelarson.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jinger at pacbell.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation >> $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation >> $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/techyes at pacbell.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation >> $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/millerij at mac.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dpaige at srcity.org > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at verizon.net From mvg1 at verizon.net Thu Jul 22 11:44:42 2010 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:44:42 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local> Message-ID: Hey Dean, I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good thing I carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just let go. I put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't get my TR to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paige, Dean" To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:04 AM Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > Hey guys. I have been having cooling problems on my TR-6. I put in a 14" > electric fan after a complete engine rebuild a few years ago. The fan > can't > keep the temp down on hot days and so often causes vapor lock issues. Oh > well! > So, to resolve the problem I bought the newly recreated 13 blade belt > driven > fan from Moss. This part had been out of production for at least 20 years. > It > was designed to push enough air to solve the problems associated with the > fuel > injection system cooling problems in the later TR-6s. One critical part in > the > installation was missing from my parts, a fan extension Adaptor listed NA > in > all available catalogs. Looked around locally and couldn't source one. > Decided > on a whim to call someone I hadn't dealt with in years since there was > Moss et > al available, Wayne Bier now operating out of Stockton. I bought from him > on a > number of occasions in the late 70's through the 80s over the years I was > living in Santa Barbara > > Wayne works almost exclusively through e-mail now. I e-mailed him > yesterday > morning with info on the part I needed. Within a couple of hours he > contacted > me and let me know he had to Adaptor on hand for $35. It was sent out > yesterday afternoon. > > In talking with Wayne he let me know that he really didn't particularly > like > to work but that he is still in business. Wayne has collected warehouses > of > Triumph parts. So many that he has had to sell for scrap 8 TONS!! of parts > and > equipment for Triumphs in the last couple of years. OH MY!! A large > stockpile > remains. If you need it he likely has it. No doubt Wayne is out of the > ordinary and maybe a bit quirky but so are most of us. > > Anyway if you are looking for those hard to find necessities I think he is > the > go to guy. I have no financial interest but I know a good deal when I see > it. > Just thought you would all like to know. His contact info is. > > Wayne Bier, Owner > Triumphs Only > Stockton CA 95205 > PH: 209-939-1020 > Email: trnut at aol.com > Web: www.triumphsonly.com > > > > On Jul 21, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Sheryl wrote: > >> I really like the stains in the headliner of the car above the brides >> head. Now that is class! >> (photo next to steering wheel with 'R' logo) >> >> >> I think our cars are way too nice for this guy. >> >> Sheryl >> 76 MGB x2 >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Frank Morris >> To: nobbc at autox.team.net >> Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 5:44:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] >> >> I had the same thought regarding not being worth driving in to SF. >> He did have >> two links...one rambler the other chevy station wagon. I can't get my >> own daughter to pose in front of my jag...but that's another story. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> Sent: Tue Jul 20 17:09:35 2010 >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] >> >> Yes, it does sound like fun, except that unfortunately, things can go >> wrong on a photo shoot. Who will pay for any damage caused to the >> car? Who's liable in the unlikely-but-possible event that somebody >> gets hurt by the car? >> Having had experience in the business of using classic cars in photo >> shoots, special events, videos, etc., this looks to me like an >> out-of-town wedding photographer trying to get a nice car as a prop >> for a rate that is probably not really worth the car owner's time and >> expense. >> >> >> And by the way, that >> "Chevrolet" in the link they provide looks a lot like a Rambler! >> >> Cheers, >> Alan Spencer >> Wheels >> 415 457 3721 >> www.Wheels-Cars-for-Film.com >> ________________________________ >> From: Ron Engelhardt >> To: >> nobbc at autox.team.net >> Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 2:55:10 PM >> Subject: [Nobbc] >> [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] >> >> This sounds like fun. If >> anyone is interested please contact Jeniene directly. I would be >> interested in feedback from anyone who does go, seeing the pictures >> would be nice also. >> on >> 58 MGA >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Car needed for >> Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot >> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:01:52 -0700 >> From: >> Jeniene White >> To: nobbc at sonic.net >> >> >> Hello, I was >> wondering if anyone in the NOBBC would be interested in us using their >> car in a photo-shoot on Wednesday August 18th from 5-8pm. >> This is a bridal fashion >> photo-shoot, and is in the Soma District in San Francisco. We would >> be willing to offer prints, or up to $100 in exchange. If interested, >> please contact jeniene at mikelarson.com >> 805-234-7678. >> Here is an example of Mike Larson's photography with classic cars: >> http://www.mikelarson.com/blog/2010/07/photokina_fashion_shoot/ >> >> >> Thank you, >> Jeniene White >> Mike >> Larson Inc. Studio Manager >> http://www.mikelarson.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jinger at pacbell.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation >> $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation >> $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/techyes at pacbell.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation >> $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/millerij at mac.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dpaige at srcity.org > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at verizon.net From DPaige at srcity.org Thu Jul 22 13:07:53 2010 From: DPaige at srcity.org (Paige, Dean) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:07:53 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only In-Reply-To: References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local> Message-ID: <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D74@MAIL5.sr.local> Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. Clean as a whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather temp re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow issue. Really the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 years or so and there is only maybe 700 miles on it. Deano -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only Hey Dean, I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good thing I carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just let go. I put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't get my TR to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. Michael 64 TR4 From mvg1 at verizon.net Thu Jul 22 15:10:07 2010 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:10:07 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D74@MAIL5.sr.local> Message-ID: Dean, Did you take out the thermostat? They can freeze up ya know. Simplest things. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paige, Dean" To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. Clean as > a > whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather temp > re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow issue. > Really > the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 years or so > and > there is only maybe 700 miles on it. > > Deano > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > > Hey Dean, > > I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good thing > I > carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just let go. > I > put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't get my > TR > to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. > > Michael > 64 TR4 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at verizon.net From desmo93 at att.net Thu Jul 22 15:20:59 2010 From: desmo93 at att.net (marcus) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:20:59 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL><548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com><0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D74@MAIL5.sr.local> Message-ID: Have your tried using Water Wetter? Use it in my Ducati 996 (notoriously poor cooling unless you are moving about 40) and I have not had any issues since, even in stop and go traffic. Marcus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paige, Dean" To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. Clean as > a > whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather temp > re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow issue. > Really > the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 years or so > and > there is only maybe 700 miles on it. > > Deano > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > > Hey Dean, > > I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good thing > I > carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just let go. > I > put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't get my > TR > to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. > > Michael > 64 TR4 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/desmo93 at att.net From tonykorman at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 22 17:09:54 2010 From: tonykorman at sbcglobal.net (tony korman) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only In-Reply-To: References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D74@MAIL5.sr.local> Message-ID: <308223.38495.qm@web81508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have always wondered why you need a thermostat for cars in Hot Weather. It seems to me that they have such potential to stick and it seems they constrict the water flow even when open. Would love to understand the point. Tony 76 TR6 ________________________________ From: Mike Gianandrea To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 2:10:07 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only Dean, Did you take out the thermostat? They can freeze up ya know. Simplest things. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paige, Dean" To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. Clean as a > whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather temp > re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow issue. Really > the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 years or so and > there is only maybe 700 miles on it. > > Deano > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > > Hey Dean, > > I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good thing I > carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just let go. I > put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't get my TR > to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. > > Michael > 64 TR4 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/tonykorman at sbcglobal.net From hawkview at sonic.net Thu Jul 22 18:02:56 2010 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:02:56 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only In-Reply-To: References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL><548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com><0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local> Message-ID: Dean. Looks like problem solved. In any event it is not likely that it is the water pump unless an impeller is gone and that would make a terrible sound. Usually when a pump gives up it is the seal or bearing with water all over the place and it is fatal. Lost mine driving from Gualala to Cloverdale at midnight and ended up spending a cold night with 3 in the JH. We froze and in the morning hitched a ride in a convertible with no heater and a torn to shreds to. I fixed the guys heater on the trip to a phone. Just a vacuum hose. Good thing I had tow insurance. $360.00 and that was in 1979. The obvious thing might be the thermostat or even a slipping fan belt. I replaced my stock 3 core radiator with a 4 core. Never over heats now. Clif JH -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Gianandrea" Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:44 AM To: "North Bay British Car Club" Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > Hey Dean, > > I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good thing > I carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just let > go. I put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't > get my TR to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator > flush. > > Michael > 64 TR4 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paige, Dean" > To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:04 AM > Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > > >> Hey guys. I have been having cooling problems on my TR-6. I put in a 14" >> electric fan after a complete engine rebuild a few years ago. The fan >> can't >> keep the temp down on hot days and so often causes vapor lock issues. Oh >> well! >> So, to resolve the problem I bought the newly recreated 13 blade belt >> driven >> fan from Moss. This part had been out of production for at least 20 >> years. It >> was designed to push enough air to solve the problems associated with the >> fuel >> injection system cooling problems in the later TR-6s. One critical part >> in the >> installation was missing from my parts, a fan extension Adaptor listed NA >> in >> all available catalogs. Looked around locally and couldn't source one. >> Decided >> on a whim to call someone I hadn't dealt with in years since there was >> Moss et >> al available, Wayne Bier now operating out of Stockton. I bought from him >> on a >> number of occasions in the late 70's through the 80s over the years I was >> living in Santa Barbara >> >> Wayne works almost exclusively through e-mail now. I e-mailed him >> yesterday >> morning with info on the part I needed. Within a couple of hours he >> contacted >> me and let me know he had to Adaptor on hand for $35. It was sent out >> yesterday afternoon. >> >> In talking with Wayne he let me know that he really didn't particularly >> like >> to work but that he is still in business. Wayne has collected warehouses >> of >> Triumph parts. So many that he has had to sell for scrap 8 TONS!! of >> parts and >> equipment for Triumphs in the last couple of years. OH MY!! A large >> stockpile >> remains. If you need it he likely has it. No doubt Wayne is out of the >> ordinary and maybe a bit quirky but so are most of us. >> >> Anyway if you are looking for those hard to find necessities I think he >> is the >> go to guy. I have no financial interest but I know a good deal when I see >> it. >> Just thought you would all like to know. His contact info is. >> >> Wayne Bier, Owner >> Triumphs Only >> Stockton CA 95205 >> PH: 209-939-1020 >> Email: trnut at aol.com >> Web: www.triumphsonly.com >> >> >> >> On Jul 21, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Sheryl wrote: >> >>> I really like the stains in the headliner of the car above the brides >>> head. Now that is class! >>> (photo next to steering wheel with 'R' logo) >>> >>> >>> I think our cars are way too nice for this guy. >>> >>> Sheryl >>> 76 MGB x2 >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Frank Morris >>> To: nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 5:44:04 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] >>> >>> I had the same thought regarding not being worth driving in to SF. >>> He did have >>> two links...one rambler the other chevy station wagon. I can't get my >>> own daughter to pose in front of my jag...but that's another story. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >>> To: North Bay British Car Club >>> Sent: Tue Jul 20 17:09:35 2010 >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] >>> >>> Yes, it does sound like fun, except that unfortunately, things can go >>> wrong on a photo shoot. Who will pay for any damage caused to the >>> car? Who's liable in the unlikely-but-possible event that somebody >>> gets hurt by the car? >>> Having had experience in the business of using classic cars in photo >>> shoots, special events, videos, etc., this looks to me like an >>> out-of-town wedding photographer trying to get a nice car as a prop >>> for a rate that is probably not really worth the car owner's time and >>> expense. >>> >>> >>> And by the way, that >>> "Chevrolet" in the link they provide looks a lot like a Rambler! >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alan Spencer >>> Wheels >>> 415 457 3721 >>> www.Wheels-Cars-for-Film.com >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Ron Engelhardt >>> To: >>> nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 2:55:10 PM >>> Subject: [Nobbc] >>> [Fwd: Car needed for Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot] >>> >>> This sounds like fun. If >>> anyone is interested please contact Jeniene directly. I would be >>> interested in feedback from anyone who does go, seeing the pictures >>> would be nice also. >>> on >>> 58 MGA >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: Car needed for >>> Bridal Fashion Photo-Shoot >>> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:01:52 -0700 >>> From: >>> Jeniene White >>> To: nobbc at sonic.net >>> >>> >>> Hello, I was >>> wondering if anyone in the NOBBC would be interested in us using their >>> car in a photo-shoot on Wednesday August 18th from 5-8pm. >>> This is a bridal fashion >>> photo-shoot, and is in the Soma District in San Francisco. We would >>> be willing to offer prints, or up to $100 in exchange. If interested, >>> please contact jeniene at mikelarson.com >>> 805-234-7678. >>> Here is an example of Mike Larson's photography with classic cars: >>> http://www.mikelarson.com/blog/2010/07/photokina_fashion_shoot/ >>> >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Jeniene White >>> Mike >>> Larson Inc. Studio Manager >>> http://www.mikelarson.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: >>> http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jinger at pacbell.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation >>> $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation >>> $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/techyes at pacbell.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation >>> $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/millerij at mac.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dpaige at srcity.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From hawkview at sonic.net Thu Jul 22 18:13:18 2010 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:13:18 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only In-Reply-To: <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D74@MAIL5.sr.local> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL><548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com><0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D74@MAIL5.sr.local> Message-ID: Wow. I sure hope what I am about to describe isn't your problem. When I went to a 2.2 on my Jensen Healey, I had the head done in one place and the bottom end done in another. I lost my nerve and decided to have the engine put together by a pro. He was pretty smart and checked the bottom end assembly. Found that the side clearances on the rods were way out. He told me that I might have gotten 500 miles out of it as it was, but it would have eventually seized up from overheating. I got really lucky. Not trying to scare you, Clif 74 JH -------------------------------------------------- From: "Paige, Dean" Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. Clean as > a > whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather temp > re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow issue. > Really > the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 years or so > and > there is only maybe 700 miles on it. > > Deano > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > > Hey Dean, > > I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good thing > I > carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just let go. > I > put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't get my > TR > to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. > > Michael > 64 TR4 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From hawkview at sonic.net Thu Jul 22 23:27:38 2010 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:27:38 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] How a thermostat works. In-Reply-To: <308223.38495.qm@web81508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL><548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com><0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local><0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D74@MAIL5.sr.local> <308223.38495.qm@web81508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Tony. How a thermostat works. >From google. Any liquid-cooled car engine has a small device called the thermostat that sits between the engine and the radiator. The thermostat in most cars is about 2 inches (5 cm) in diameter. Its job is to block the flow of coolant to the radiator until the engine has warmed up. When the engine is cold, no coolant flows through the engine. Once the engine reaches its operating temperature (generally about 200 degrees F, 95 degrees C), the thermostat opens. By letting the engine warm up as quickly as possible, the thermostat reduces engine wear, deposits and emissions. If you ever have the chance to test one, a thermostat is an amazing thing to watch because what they do seems impossible. You can put one in a pot of boiling water on the stove. As it heats up, its valve opens about an inch, apparently by magic! If you'd like to try this yourself, go to a car parts store and buy one for a couple of bucks. The secret of the thermostat lies in the small cylinder located on the engine-side of the device. This cylinder is filled with a wax that begins to melt at perhaps 180 degrees F (different thermostats open at different temperatures, but 180 F/82 C is a common temperature). A rod connected to the valve presses into this wax. When the wax melts, it expands significantly and pushes the rod out of the cylinder, opening the valve. If you have read How Thermometers Work and done the experiment with the bottle and the straw, you have seen the same process in action. The wax happens to expand a good bit more because it is changing from a solid to a liquid in addition to expanding from the heat. Very cool, Clif 74 jensen healey -------------------------------------------------- From: "tony korman" Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:09 PM To: "North Bay British Car Club" Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > I have always wondered why you need a thermostat for cars in Hot Weather. > It > seems to me that they have such potential to stick and it seems they > constrict > the water flow even when open. Would love to understand the point. > Tony > 76 TR6 > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Mike Gianandrea > To: North Bay British Car Club > Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 2:10:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > > Dean, > > Did you take out the thermostat? They can freeze up ya know. Simplest > things. > > Michael > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paige, Dean" > To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > > >> Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. Clean >> as a >> whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather temp >> re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow issue. >> Really >> the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 years or so >> and >> there is only maybe 700 miles on it. >> >> Deano >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >> On >> Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >> Hey Dean, >> >> I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good >> thing I >> carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just let go. >> I >> put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't get >> my TR >> to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. >> >> Michael >> 64 TR4 >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at verizon.net >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/tonykorman at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From DPaige at srcity.org Fri Jul 23 09:31:36 2010 From: DPaige at srcity.org (Paige, Dean) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:31:36 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only In-Reply-To: References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D74@MAIL5.sr.local> Message-ID: <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D76@MAIL5.sr.local> AH. That would make sense IF the temperature stayed up consistently. In this case however the temp comes down to normal levels when air temperature is low as is the case when I drive the coast for instance or drive in the cooler winter weather. So a stuck thermostat doesn't fit the scenario. I will likely have the new cooling fan in by tomorrow. All prepped for installation and I was only waiting for the fan extension adaptor which showed up at my door yesterday afternoon. Radiator was moved forward yesterday for access and just an octet of bolts to tighten and then back on the road. I will be surprised if the new fan doesn't cure the problem though I have been surprised before by my beastie. -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:10 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only Dean, Did you take out the thermostat? They can freeze up ya know. Simplest things. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paige, Dean" To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. Clean as > a > whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather temp > re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow issue. > Really > the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 years or so > and > there is only maybe 700 miles on it. > > Deano > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > > Hey Dean, > > I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good thing > I > carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just let go. > I > put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't get my > TR > to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. > > Michael > 64 TR4 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at verizon.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dpaige at srcity.org From DPaige at srcity.org Fri Jul 23 09:33:38 2010 From: DPaige at srcity.org (Paige, Dean) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:33:38 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only In-Reply-To: References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL><548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com><0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D74@MAIL5.sr.local> Message-ID: <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D77@MAIL5.sr.local> That's something I will try. Couldn't hurt! Deano -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of marcus Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:21 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only Have your tried using Water Wetter? Use it in my Ducati 996 (notoriously poor cooling unless you are moving about 40) and I have not had any issues since, even in stop and go traffic. Marcus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paige, Dean" To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. Clean as > a > whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather temp > re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow issue. > Really > the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 years or so > and > there is only maybe 700 miles on it. > > Deano > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > > Hey Dean, > > I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good thing > I > carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just let go. > I > put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't get my > TR > to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. > > Michael > 64 TR4 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/desmo93 at att.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dpaige at srcity.org From don at napanet.net Fri Jul 23 11:05:34 2010 From: don at napanet.net (don) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:05:34 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] How a thermostat works. In-Reply-To: References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D74@MAIL5.sr.local> <308223.38495.qm@web81508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20100723175749.6924E24DCC2@mail.napanet.net> The trick with thermostats is to get the kind that fail open. If they fail when closed, you risk the chance of cooking your engine. I bought a '92 Integra GSR down in Redlands CA. I took the train down there, being very confident that the car was going to be as nice as the seller stated. It was. I drove it home through the desert in 100 degree summer heat, and had no problems. However, a couple days later, I drove it to work from Calistoga to Santa Rosa. Cool morning temps, and I noticed that the temperature gauge would go down to "C" when I descended hills. The problem was that the thermostat had failed. If the thermostat was working properly, the temp gauge would have stayed at "N" while going up hills, and going down. Lucky for me, the thermostat was the type that failed open. So no damage was done. The older type of thermostat fails closed, and stops the flow of coolant, risking destroying the engine. At 10:27 PM 07/22/2010, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote: >Tony. >How a thermostat works. > From google. >Any liquid-cooled car engine has a small device called the >thermostat that sits between the engine and the radiator. The >thermostat in most cars is about 2 inches (5 cm) in diameter. Its >job is to block the flow of coolant to the radiator until the engine >has warmed up. When the engine is cold, no coolant flows through the >engine. Once the engine reaches its operating temperature (generally >about 200 degrees F, 95 degrees C), the thermostat opens. By letting >the engine warm up as quickly as possible, the thermostat reduces >engine wear, deposits and emissions. > >If you ever have the chance to test one, a thermostat is an amazing >thing to watch because what they do seems impossible. You can put >one in a pot of boiling water on the stove. As it heats up, its >valve opens about an inch, apparently by magic! If you'd like to try >this yourself, go to a car parts store and buy one for a couple of bucks. > >The secret of the thermostat lies in the small cylinder located on >the engine-side of the device. This cylinder is filled with a wax >that begins to melt at perhaps 180 degrees F (different thermostats >open at different temperatures, but 180 F/82 C is a common >temperature). A rod connected to the valve presses into this wax. >When the wax melts, it expands significantly and pushes the rod out >of the cylinder, opening the valve. If you have read How >Thermometers Work and done the experiment with the bottle and the >straw, you have seen the same process in action. The wax happens to >expand a good bit more because it is changing from a solid to a >liquid in addition to expanding from the heat. > >Very cool, >Clif 74 jensen healey >-------------------------------------------------- >From: "tony korman" >Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:09 PM >To: "North Bay British Car Club" >Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > >>I have always wondered why you need a thermostat for cars in Hot Weather. It >>seems to me that they have such potential to stick and it seems >>they constrict >>the water flow even when open. Would love to understand the point. >>Tony >>76 TR6 >> >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>From: Mike Gianandrea >>To: North Bay British Car Club >>Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 2:10:07 PM >>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >>Dean, >> >>Did you take out the thermostat? They can freeze up ya know. Simplest things. >> >>Michael >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Paige, Dean" >>To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" >>Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM >>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >> >>>Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. Clean as a >>>whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather temp >>>re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow issue. Really >>>the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 >>>years or so and >>>there is only maybe 700 miles on it. >>> >>>Deano >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On >>>Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea >>>Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM >>>To: North Bay British Car Club >>>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>> >>>Hey Dean, >>> >>>I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good thing I >>>carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just let go. I >>>put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I >>>can't get my TR >>>to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. >>> >>>Michael >>>64 TR4 >>>___________________ From wbain at sonic.net Fri Jul 23 14:58:50 2010 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:58:50 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only In-Reply-To: <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D77@MAIL5.sr.local> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL><548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com><0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D74@MAIL5.sr.local> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D77@MAIL5.sr.local> Message-ID: <4767726C-DB1D-4BE4-8286-0F1872FAED5C@sonic.net> I used to use Water Wetter when I was racing the Morgan in vintage events. On a really hot day it made a difference of sometimes 15 degrees and that really can help. Try it. Wendell On Jul 23, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Paige, Dean wrote: > That's something I will try. Couldn't hurt! > > Deano > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- > bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of marcus > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:21 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > > Have your tried using Water Wetter? Use it in my Ducati 996 > (notoriously poor > cooling unless you are moving about 40) and I have not had any > issues since, > even in stop and go traffic. > > Marcus > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paige, Dean" > To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > > >> Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. >> Clean as >> a >> whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather >> temp >> re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow issue. >> Really >> the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 >> years or so >> and >> there is only maybe 700 miles on it. >> >> Deano >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- >> bounces at autox.team.net] >> On >> Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >> Hey Dean, >> >> I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, >> (good thing >> I >> carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just >> let go. >> I >> put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I >> can't get my >> TR >> to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. >> >> Michael >> 64 TR4 >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/desmo93 at att.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dpaige at srcity.org > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ > wbain at sonic.net From norman.weinfeld at gmail.com Fri Jul 23 16:03:35 2010 From: norman.weinfeld at gmail.com (Norman S. Weinfeld) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:03:35 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only In-Reply-To: <4767726C-DB1D-4BE4-8286-0F1872FAED5C@sonic.net> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D74@MAIL5.sr.local> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D77@MAIL5.sr.local> <4767726C-DB1D-4BE4-8286-0F1872FAED5C@sonic.net> Message-ID: I've used Water Wetter also with no perceivable improvement. I've recently been advised that this has to do with my also using anti-freeze and that they tend to cancel one another out. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:58 PM, wendell bain wrote: > I used to use Water Wetter when I was racing the Morgan in vintage events. > On a really hot day it made a difference of sometimes 15 degrees and that > really can help. Try it. > > Wendell > > > On Jul 23, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Paige, Dean wrote: > > That's something I will try. Couldn't hurt! >> >> Deano >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >> On >> Behalf Of marcus >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:21 PM >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >> Have your tried using Water Wetter? Use it in my Ducati 996 (notoriously >> poor >> cooling unless you are moving about 40) and I have not had any issues >> since, >> even in stop and go traffic. >> >> Marcus >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Paige, Dean" >> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >> >> Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. Clean >>> as >>> a >>> whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather temp >>> re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow issue. >>> Really >>> the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 years or so >>> and >>> there is only maybe 700 miles on it. >>> >>> Deano >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea >>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM >>> To: North Bay British Car Club >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>> >>> Hey Dean, >>> >>> I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good >>> thing >>> I >>> carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just let go. >>> I >>> put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't get >>> my >>> TR >>> to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. >>> >>> Michael >>> 64 TR4 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/desmo93 at att.net >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dpaige at srcity.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wbain at sonic.net >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com From morrisf at SIDWater.org Fri Jul 23 17:16:06 2010 From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:16:06 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only In-Reply-To: References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D74@MAIL5.sr.local> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D77@MAIL5.sr.local> <4767726C-DB1D-4BE4-8286-0F1872FAED5C@sonic.net> Message-ID: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABF0@echo01.SID.LOCAL> Where did you find the Water Wetter? Not exactly a Kragen shelf item. -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Norman S. Weinfeld Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 3:04 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only I've used Water Wetter also with no perceivable improvement. I've recently been advised that this has to do with my also using anti-freeze and that they tend to cancel one another out. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:58 PM, wendell bain wrote: > I used to use Water Wetter when I was racing the Morgan in vintage events. > On a really hot day it made a difference of sometimes 15 degrees and that > really can help. Try it. > > Wendell > > > On Jul 23, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Paige, Dean wrote: > > That's something I will try. Couldn't hurt! >> >> Deano >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >> On >> Behalf Of marcus >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:21 PM >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >> Have your tried using Water Wetter? Use it in my Ducati 996 (notoriously >> poor >> cooling unless you are moving about 40) and I have not had any issues >> since, >> even in stop and go traffic. >> >> Marcus >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Paige, Dean" >> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >> >> Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. Clean >>> as >>> a >>> whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather temp >>> re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow issue. >>> Really >>> the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 years or so >>> and >>> there is only maybe 700 miles on it. >>> >>> Deano >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea >>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM >>> To: North Bay British Car Club >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>> >>> Hey Dean, >>> >>> I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good >>> thing >>> I >>> carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just let go. >>> I >>> put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't get >>> my >>> TR >>> to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. >>> >>> Michael >>> 64 TR4 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/desmo93 at att.net >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dpaige at srcity.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wbain at sonic.net >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org From wkilch at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 23 18:44:49 2010 From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (Walter & Gwen Kilchherr) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only In-Reply-To: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABF0@echo01.SID.LOCAL> Message-ID: <753603.55095.qm@web81703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Smothers used to carry it. Walter --- On Fri, 7/23/10, Frank Morris wrote: From: Frank Morris Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only To: "North Bay British Car Club" Date: Friday, July 23, 2010, 4:16 PM Where did you find the Water Wetter? Not exactly a Kragen shelf item. -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Norman S. Weinfeld Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 3:04 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only I've used Water Wetter also with no perceivable improvement. I've recently been advised that this has to do with my also using anti-freeze and that they tend to cancel one another out. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:58 PM, wendell bain wrote: > I used to use Water Wetter when I was racing the Morgan in vintage events. > On a really hot day it made a difference of sometimes 15 degrees and that > really can help. Try it. > > Wendell > > > On Jul 23, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Paige, Dean wrote: > > That's something I will try. Couldn't hurt! >> >> Deano >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >> On >> Behalf Of marcus >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:21 PM >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >> Have your tried using Water Wetter? Use it in my Ducati 996 (notoriously >> poor >> cooling unless you are moving about 40) and I have not had any issues >> since, >> even in stop and go traffic. >> >> Marcus >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Paige, Dean" >> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >> >> Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. Clean >>> as >>> a >>> whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather temp >>> re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow issue. >>> Really >>> the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 years or so >>> and >>> there is only maybe 700 miles on it. >>> >>> Deano >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea >>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM >>> To: North Bay British Car Club >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>> >>> Hey Dean, >>> >>> I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good >>> thing >>> I >>> carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just let go. >>> I >>> put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't get >>> my >>> TR >>> to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. >>> >>> Michael >>> 64 TR4 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/desmo93 at att.net >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dpaige at srcity.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wbain at sonic.net >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wkilch at sbcglobal.net From wkilch at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 23 18:47:41 2010 From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (Walter & Gwen Kilchherr) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only In-Reply-To: <4767726C-DB1D-4BE4-8286-0F1872FAED5C@sonic.net> Message-ID: <388827.41370.qm@web81701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The big Healey ran 10 degrees cooler with the addition of Water Wetter with 50/50 coolant. Walter --- On Fri, 7/23/10, wendell bain wrote: From: wendell bain Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only To: "North Bay British Car Club" Date: Friday, July 23, 2010, 1:58 PM I used to use Water Wetter when I was racing the Morgan in vintage events. On a really hot day it made a difference of sometimes 15 degrees and that really can help. Try it. Wendell On Jul 23, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Paige, Dean wrote: > That's something I will try. Couldn't hurt! > > Deano > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of marcus > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:21 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > > Have your tried using Water Wetter? Use it in my Ducati 996 (notoriously poor > cooling unless you are moving about 40) and I have not had any issues since, > even in stop and go traffic. > > Marcus > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paige, Dean" > To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > > >> Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. Clean as >> a >> whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather temp >> re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow issue. >> Really >> the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 years or so >> and >> there is only maybe 700 miles on it. >> >> Deano >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >> On >> Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >> Hey Dean, >> >> I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good thing >> I >> carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just let go. >> I >> put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't get my >> TR >> to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. >> >> Michael >> 64 TR4 >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/desmo93 at att.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dpaige at srcity.org > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wbain at sonic.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wkilch at sbcglobal.net From norman.weinfeld at gmail.com Fri Jul 23 19:21:44 2010 From: norman.weinfeld at gmail.com (Norman S. Weinfeld) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:21:44 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only In-Reply-To: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABF0@echo01.SID.LOCAL> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D74@MAIL5.sr.local> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D77@MAIL5.sr.local> <4767726C-DB1D-4BE4-8286-0F1872FAED5C@sonic.net> <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABF0@echo01.SID.LOCAL> Message-ID: Actually, it is. My local Kragen's here in the Hood has it... On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Frank Morris wrote: > Where did you find the Water Wetter? Not exactly a Kragen shelf item. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Norman S. Weinfeld > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 3:04 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > > I've used Water Wetter also with no perceivable improvement. I've > recently > been advised that this has to do with my also using anti-freeze and that > they tend to cancel one another out. > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:58 PM, wendell bain wrote: > > > I used to use Water Wetter when I was racing the Morgan in vintage > events. > > On a really hot day it made a difference of sometimes 15 degrees and > that > > really can help. Try it. > > > > Wendell > > > > > > On Jul 23, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Paige, Dean wrote: > > > > That's something I will try. Couldn't hurt! > >> > >> Deano > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > >> On > >> Behalf Of marcus > >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:21 PM > >> To: North Bay British Car Club > >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > >> > >> Have your tried using Water Wetter? Use it in my Ducati 996 > (notoriously > >> poor > >> cooling unless you are moving about 40) and I have not had any issues > >> since, > >> even in stop and go traffic. > >> > >> Marcus > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Paige, Dean" > >> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" > >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > >> > >> > >> Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. > Clean > >>> as > >>> a > >>> whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather > temp > >>> re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow issue. > >>> Really > >>> the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 years > or so > >>> and > >>> there is only maybe 700 miles on it. > >>> > >>> Deano > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > >>> On > >>> Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea > >>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM > >>> To: North Bay British Car Club > >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > >>> > >>> Hey Dean, > >>> > >>> I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good > >>> thing > >>> I > >>> carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just > let go. > >>> I > >>> put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't > get > >>> my > >>> TR > >>> to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. > >>> > >>> Michael > >>> 64 TR4 > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/desmo93 at att.net > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Nobbc at autox.team.net > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dpaige at srcity.org > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Nobbc at autox.team.net > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wbain at sonic.net > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com From nobbc at sonic.net Fri Jul 23 20:25:29 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:25:29 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only In-Reply-To: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABF0@echo01.SID.LOCAL> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D74@MAIL5.sr.local> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D77@MAIL5.sr.local> <4767726C-DB1D-4BE4-8286-0F1872FAED5C@sonic.net> <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABF0@echo01.SID.LOCAL> Message-ID: <4C4A4F19.9000002@sonic.net> I have seen it at Kragen. Ron 58 MGA Frank Morris wrote: > Where did you find the Water Wetter? Not exactly a Kragen shelf item. From morrisf at SIDWater.org Fri Jul 23 21:00:58 2010 From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:00:58 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABF2@echo01.SID.LOCAL> I see it is a Redline product which is local. Comes with generally high recommendations ----- Original Message ----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Fri Jul 23 18:21:44 2010 Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only Actually, it is. My local Kragen's here in the Hood has it... On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Frank Morris wrote: > Where did you find the Water Wetter? Not exactly a Kragen shelf item. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Norman S. Weinfeld > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 3:04 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > > I've used Water Wetter also with no perceivable improvement. I've > recently > been advised that this has to do with my also using anti-freeze and that > they tend to cancel one another out. > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:58 PM, wendell bain wrote: > > > I used to use Water Wetter when I was racing the Morgan in vintage > events. > > On a really hot day it made a difference of sometimes 15 degrees and > that > > really can help. Try it. > > > > Wendell > > > > > > On Jul 23, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Paige, Dean wrote: > > > > That's something I will try. Couldn't hurt! > >> > >> Deano > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > >> On > >> Behalf Of marcus > >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:21 PM > >> To: North Bay British Car Club > >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > >> > >> Have your tried using Water Wetter? Use it in my Ducati 996 > (notoriously > >> poor > >> cooling unless you are moving about 40) and I have not had any issues > >> since, > >> even in stop and go traffic. > >> > >> Marcus > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Paige, Dean" > >> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" > >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > >> > >> > >> Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. > Clean > >>> as > >>> a > >>> whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather > temp > >>> re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow issue. > >>> Really > >>> the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 years > or so > >>> and > >>> there is only maybe 700 miles on it. > >>> > >>> Deano > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > >>> On > >>> Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea > >>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM > >>> To: North Bay British Car Club > >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > >>> > >>> Hey Dean, > >>> > >>> I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good > >>> thing > >>> I > >>> carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just > let go. > >>> I > >>> put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't > get > >>> my > >>> TR > >>> to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. > >>> > >>> Michael > >>> 64 TR4 > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/desmo93 at att.net > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Nobbc at autox.team.net > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dpaige at srcity.org > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Nobbc at autox.team.net > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wbain at sonic.net > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org From hawkview at sonic.net Sat Jul 24 00:12:21 2010 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:12:21 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only In-Reply-To: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABF2@echo01.SID.LOCAL> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABF2@echo01.SID.LOCAL> Message-ID: Not sure I get it. Based on what a thermostat is suppose to do, I would think water wetter would have no effect. The thermostat doesn't care what's in the water, only the temp...correct? Or are you talking relative to over heating? Clif 74 JH -------------------------------------------------- From: "Frank Morris" Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 8:00 PM To: Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > I see it is a Redline product which is local. Comes with generally high > recommendations > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > To: North Bay British Car Club > Sent: Fri Jul 23 18:21:44 2010 > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > > Actually, it is. My local Kragen's here in the Hood has it... > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Frank Morris > wrote: > >> Where did you find the Water Wetter? Not exactly a Kragen shelf item. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >> On Behalf Of Norman S. Weinfeld >> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 3:04 PM >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >> I've used Water Wetter also with no perceivable improvement. I've >> recently >> been advised that this has to do with my also using anti-freeze and that >> they tend to cancel one another out. >> >> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:58 PM, wendell bain wrote: >> >> > I used to use Water Wetter when I was racing the Morgan in vintage >> events. >> > On a really hot day it made a difference of sometimes 15 degrees and >> that >> > really can help. Try it. >> > >> > Wendell >> > >> > >> > On Jul 23, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Paige, Dean wrote: >> > >> > That's something I will try. Couldn't hurt! >> >> >> >> Deano >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >> >> On >> >> Behalf Of marcus >> >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:21 PM >> >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >> >> >> Have your tried using Water Wetter? Use it in my Ducati 996 >> (notoriously >> >> poor >> >> cooling unless you are moving about 40) and I have not had any issues >> >> since, >> >> even in stop and go traffic. >> >> >> >> Marcus >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Paige, Dean" >> >> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" >> >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >> >> >> >> >> Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. >> Clean >> >>> as >> >>> a >> >>> whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather >> temp >> >>> re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow issue. >> >>> Really >> >>> the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 years >> or so >> >>> and >> >>> there is only maybe 700 miles on it. >> >>> >> >>> Deano >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >> >>> On >> >>> Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea >> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM >> >>> To: North Bay British Car Club >> >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >>> >> >>> Hey Dean, >> >>> >> >>> I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good >> >>> thing >> >>> I >> >>> carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just >> let go. >> >>> I >> >>> put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't >> get >> >>> my >> >>> TR >> >>> to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. >> >>> >> >>> Michael >> >>> 64 TR4 >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/desmo93 at att.net >> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dpaige at srcity.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wbain at sonic.net >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Nobbc at autox.team.net >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From desmo93 at att.net Sat Jul 24 00:17:14 2010 From: desmo93 at att.net (marcus) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:17:14 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL><548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com><0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local><0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D74@MAIL5.sr.local><0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D77@MAIL5.sr.local><4767726C-DB1D-4BE4-8286-0F1872FAED5C@sonic.net> <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABF0@echo01.SID.LOCAL> Message-ID: <46278ABE213C4D278B2E7B05305DDFEF@marcuse8622318> I have seen it at Pep Boys and at Cycle Gear (Santa Rosa Ave.). You will need to add more to the cooling system about once a year as it will loose its cooling ability over time. Marcus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Morris" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > Where did you find the Water Wetter? Not exactly a Kragen shelf item. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Norman S. Weinfeld > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 3:04 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > > I've used Water Wetter also with no perceivable improvement. I've > recently > been advised that this has to do with my also using anti-freeze and that > they tend to cancel one another out. > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:58 PM, wendell bain wrote: > >> I used to use Water Wetter when I was racing the Morgan in vintage > events. >> On a really hot day it made a difference of sometimes 15 degrees and > that >> really can help. Try it. >> >> Wendell >> >> >> On Jul 23, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Paige, Dean wrote: >> >> That's something I will try. Couldn't hurt! >>> >>> Deano >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>> On >>> Behalf Of marcus >>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:21 PM >>> To: North Bay British Car Club >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>> >>> Have your tried using Water Wetter? Use it in my Ducati 996 > (notoriously >>> poor >>> cooling unless you are moving about 40) and I have not had any issues >>> since, >>> even in stop and go traffic. >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Paige, Dean" >>> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" >>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>> >>> >>> Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. > Clean >>>> as >>>> a >>>> whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather > temp >>>> re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow issue. >>>> Really >>>> the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 years > or so >>>> and >>>> there is only maybe 700 miles on it. >>>> >>>> Deano >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM >>>> To: North Bay British Car Club >>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>>> >>>> Hey Dean, >>>> >>>> I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good >>>> thing >>>> I >>>> carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just > let go. >>>> I >>>> put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't > get >>>> my >>>> TR >>>> to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> 64 TR4 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/desmo93 at att.net >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dpaige at srcity.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wbain at sonic.net >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/desmo93 at att.net From desmo93 at att.net Sat Jul 24 01:42:38 2010 From: desmo93 at att.net (marcus) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 00:42:38 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABF2@echo01.SID.LOCAL> Message-ID: <1073162899624905BA7E798ED0398639@marcuse8622318> Water Wetter increases the cooling efficiency of the system. If the thermostat is full open at 165 or 180, it will stay open as long as the temp does not drop below that. I suggested using Water Wetter as Dean was having cooling issues. The Water Wetter will help the system do a better job of eliminating the excess heat, brining it down to a normal operating temp. At normal operating temp, the thermostat should be open fully. If the cooling system was maintain a normal operating temp, Water Wetter would not be necessary and could reduce the system temp below normal operating temp. If you go to the Redline site or do a search on Water Wetter, you can find detail beyond what I can provide on how it works. Marcus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > Not sure I get it. > Based on what a thermostat is suppose to do, I would think water wetter > would have no effect. The thermostat doesn't care what's in the water, > only the temp...correct? Or are you talking relative to over heating? > Clif > 74 JH > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Frank Morris" > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 8:00 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > >> I see it is a Redline product which is local. Comes with generally high >> recommendations >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> Sent: Fri Jul 23 18:21:44 2010 >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >> Actually, it is. My local Kragen's here in the Hood has it... >> >> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Frank Morris >> wrote: >> >>> Where did you find the Water Wetter? Not exactly a Kragen shelf item. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>> On Behalf Of Norman S. Weinfeld >>> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 3:04 PM >>> To: North Bay British Car Club >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>> >>> I've used Water Wetter also with no perceivable improvement. I've >>> recently >>> been advised that this has to do with my also using anti-freeze and that >>> they tend to cancel one another out. >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:58 PM, wendell bain wrote: >>> >>> > I used to use Water Wetter when I was racing the Morgan in vintage >>> events. >>> > On a really hot day it made a difference of sometimes 15 degrees and >>> that >>> > really can help. Try it. >>> > >>> > Wendell >>> > >>> > >>> > On Jul 23, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Paige, Dean wrote: >>> > >>> > That's something I will try. Couldn't hurt! >>> >> >>> >> Deano >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >>> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>> >> On >>> >> Behalf Of marcus >>> >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:21 PM >>> >> To: North Bay British Car Club >>> >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>> >> >>> >> Have your tried using Water Wetter? Use it in my Ducati 996 >>> (notoriously >>> >> poor >>> >> cooling unless you are moving about 40) and I have not had any issues >>> >> since, >>> >> even in stop and go traffic. >>> >> >>> >> Marcus >>> >> >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >> From: "Paige, Dean" >>> >> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" >>> >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM >>> >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. >>> Clean >>> >>> as >>> >>> a >>> >>> whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather >>> temp >>> >>> re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow issue. >>> >>> Really >>> >>> the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 years >>> or so >>> >>> and >>> >>> there is only maybe 700 miles on it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Deano >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >>> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>> >>> On >>> >>> Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea >>> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM >>> >>> To: North Bay British Car Club >>> >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>> >>> >>> >>> Hey Dean, >>> >>> >>> >>> I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good >>> >>> thing >>> >>> I >>> >>> carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just >>> let go. >>> >>> I >>> >>> put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't >>> get >>> >>> my >>> >>> TR >>> >>> to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. >>> >>> >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> 64 TR4 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/desmo93 at att.net >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dpaige at srcity.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wbain at sonic.net >>> >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> > Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/desmo93 at att.net From desmo93 at att.net Sat Jul 24 01:50:00 2010 From: desmo93 at att.net (marcus) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 00:50:00 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D74@MAIL5.sr.local> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D77@MAIL5.sr.local> <4767726C-DB1D-4BE4-8286-0F1872FAED5C@sonic.net> Message-ID: In my Ducati, I use it with anti-freeze and it did make a big difference. I have seen posts on the 6 pack site from members in the hotter climates using it with anti-freeze with success. Not disputing your results, just my experience. Marcus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman S. Weinfeld" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > I've used Water Wetter also with no perceivable improvement. I've recently > been advised that this has to do with my also using anti-freeze and that > they tend to cancel one another out. > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:58 PM, wendell bain wrote: > >> I used to use Water Wetter when I was racing the Morgan in vintage >> events. >> On a really hot day it made a difference of sometimes 15 degrees and that >> really can help. Try it. >> >> Wendell >> >> >> On Jul 23, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Paige, Dean wrote: >> >> That's something I will try. Couldn't hurt! >>> >>> Deano >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>> On >>> Behalf Of marcus >>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:21 PM >>> To: North Bay British Car Club >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>> >>> Have your tried using Water Wetter? Use it in my Ducati 996 >>> (notoriously >>> poor >>> cooling unless you are moving about 40) and I have not had any issues >>> since, >>> even in stop and go traffic. >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Paige, Dean" >>> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" >>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>> >>> >>> Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. Clean >>>> as >>>> a >>>> whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather temp >>>> re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow issue. >>>> Really >>>> the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 years or >>>> so >>>> and >>>> there is only maybe 700 miles on it. >>>> >>>> Deano >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >>>> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM >>>> To: North Bay British Car Club >>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>>> >>>> Hey Dean, >>>> >>>> I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good >>>> thing >>>> I >>>> carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just let >>>> go. >>>> I >>>> put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't get >>>> my >>>> TR >>>> to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> 64 TR4 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/desmo93 at att.net >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dpaige at srcity.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wbain at sonic.net >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/desmo93 at att.net From wbain at sonic.net Sat Jul 24 12:02:50 2010 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:02:50 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only In-Reply-To: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABF0@echo01.SID.LOCAL> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D74@MAIL5.sr.local> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D77@MAIL5.sr.local> <4767726C-DB1D-4BE4-8286-0F1872FAED5C@sonic.net> <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABF0@echo01.SID.LOCAL> Message-ID: It's made by Red Line Oil products. http://www.redlineoil.com/ You can read what Water Wetter is all about and decide for yourself if you are interested. Cheers, Wendell On Jul 23, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Frank Morris wrote: > Where did you find the Water Wetter? Not exactly a Kragen shelf item. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- > bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Norman S. Weinfeld > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 3:04 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > > I've used Water Wetter also with no perceivable improvement. I've > recently > been advised that this has to do with my also using anti-freeze and > that > they tend to cancel one another out. > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:58 PM, wendell bain wrote: > >> I used to use Water Wetter when I was racing the Morgan in vintage > events. >> On a really hot day it made a difference of sometimes 15 degrees and > that >> really can help. Try it. >> >> Wendell >> >> >> On Jul 23, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Paige, Dean wrote: >> >> That's something I will try. Couldn't hurt! >>> >>> Deano >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>> On >>> Behalf Of marcus >>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:21 PM >>> To: North Bay British Car Club >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>> >>> Have your tried using Water Wetter? Use it in my Ducati 996 > (notoriously >>> poor >>> cooling unless you are moving about 40) and I have not had any >>> issues >>> since, >>> even in stop and go traffic. >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Paige, Dean" >>> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" >>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>> >>> >>> Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. > Clean >>>> as >>>> a >>>> whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather > temp >>>> re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow >>>> issue. >>>> Really >>>> the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 years > or so >>>> and >>>> there is only maybe 700 miles on it. >>>> >>>> Deano >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM >>>> To: North Bay British Car Club >>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>>> >>>> Hey Dean, >>>> >>>> I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, >>>> (good >>>> thing >>>> I >>>> carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just > let go. >>>> I >>>> put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't > get >>>> my >>>> TR >>>> to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> 64 TR4 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/desmo93 at att.net >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dpaige at srcity.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wbain at sonic.net >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ > wbain at sonic.net From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Sat Jul 24 16:29:47 2010 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:29:47 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Fwd: FW: Anglia Versus 2 Jags In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Brit Car People - This is an interesting clip I received from my old friend and racing buddy, Winkelmann. Nice shots of Brands Hatch and some great driving skill displayed by his cousin Steve in the 105 Anglia similar to the one I drove for Bob at the Crows Landing Trans Am Sedan Races back in the 1960's. About 7-8 minutes into it the action with the Jags gets really good. Enjoy! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Robin Jackson Date: Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:20 PM Subject: FW: Anglia Versus 2 Jags To: apexbrit2 at gmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:31:22 -0700 Subject: Anglia Versus 2 Jags From: *Hi every-one,* * * *This is Steve at Speed last weekend at Brands Hatch,* *there's a part two coming.* * * * *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKykJJeW4nE -- Winkster ------------------------------ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Learn more. From hawkview at sonic.net Sat Jul 24 17:00:02 2010 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:00:02 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only In-Reply-To: <1073162899624905BA7E798ED0398639@marcuse8622318> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABF2@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <1073162899624905BA7E798ED0398639@marcuse8622318> Message-ID: I understand. Thanks. Back to the TR problem. As I recall this is an engine with only 700 miles. If this problem did not exist before the engine rebuild then in stands to reason there is another issue. My Jensen Healey has about the same number of miles on the rebuild and is running a bit hotter than normal and before the rebuild. But it is not over heating and when it gets to it's now normal temperature it stays there...no matter the weather. Question for me is, does higher compression 8.9 to 10.5 have an effect on temperature? I am going to get a bottle of this stuff and see what happens. Royal Purple makes a product called Purple Ice Super Coolant that they claim is better. Who knows? But they also claim it can be used in straight water racing applications or in antifreeze / water mixtures. A bit more expensive. Clif 74 JH -------------------------------------------------- From: "marcus" Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:42 AM To: "North Bay British Car Club" Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > Water Wetter increases the cooling efficiency of the system. If the > thermostat is full open at 165 or 180, it will stay open as long as the > temp does not drop below that. I suggested using Water Wetter as Dean was > having cooling issues. The Water Wetter will help the system do a better > job of eliminating the excess heat, brining it down to a normal operating > temp. At normal operating temp, the thermostat should be open fully. If > the cooling system was maintain a normal operating temp, Water Wetter > would not be necessary and could reduce the system temp below normal > operating temp. If you go to the Redline site or do a search on Water > Wetter, you can find detail beyond what I can provide on how it works. > > Marcus > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > > >> Not sure I get it. >> Based on what a thermostat is suppose to do, I would think water wetter >> would have no effect. The thermostat doesn't care what's in the water, >> only the temp...correct? Or are you talking relative to over heating? >> Clif >> 74 JH >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Frank Morris" >> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 8:00 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >>> I see it is a Redline product which is local. Comes with generally high >>> recommendations >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >>> To: North Bay British Car Club >>> Sent: Fri Jul 23 18:21:44 2010 >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>> >>> Actually, it is. My local Kragen's here in the Hood has it... >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Frank Morris >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Where did you find the Water Wetter? Not exactly a Kragen shelf item. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >>>> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>>> On Behalf Of Norman S. Weinfeld >>>> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 3:04 PM >>>> To: North Bay British Car Club >>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>>> >>>> I've used Water Wetter also with no perceivable improvement. I've >>>> recently >>>> been advised that this has to do with my also using anti-freeze and >>>> that >>>> they tend to cancel one another out. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:58 PM, wendell bain wrote: >>>> >>>> > I used to use Water Wetter when I was racing the Morgan in vintage >>>> events. >>>> > On a really hot day it made a difference of sometimes 15 degrees and >>>> that >>>> > really can help. Try it. >>>> > >>>> > Wendell >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Jul 23, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Paige, Dean wrote: >>>> > >>>> > That's something I will try. Couldn't hurt! >>>> >> >>>> >> Deano >>>> >> >>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>> >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >>>> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>>> >> On >>>> >> Behalf Of marcus >>>> >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:21 PM >>>> >> To: North Bay British Car Club >>>> >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>>> >> >>>> >> Have your tried using Water Wetter? Use it in my Ducati 996 >>>> (notoriously >>>> >> poor >>>> >> cooling unless you are moving about 40) and I have not had any >>>> >> issues >>>> >> since, >>>> >> even in stop and go traffic. >>>> >> >>>> >> Marcus >>>> >> >>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >> From: "Paige, Dean" >>>> >> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" >>>> >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM >>>> >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. >>>> Clean >>>> >>> as >>>> >>> a >>>> >>> whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather >>>> temp >>>> >>> re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow >>>> >>> issue. >>>> >>> Really >>>> >>> the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 years >>>> or so >>>> >>> and >>>> >>> there is only maybe 700 miles on it. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Deano >>>> >>> >>>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >>>> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>>> >>> On >>>> >>> Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea >>>> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM >>>> >>> To: North Bay British Car Club >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Hey Dean, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, >>>> >>> (good >>>> >>> thing >>>> >>> I >>>> >>> carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just >>>> let go. >>>> >>> I >>>> >>> put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't >>>> get >>>> >>> my >>>> >>> TR >>>> >>> to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Michael >>>> >>> 64 TR4 >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/desmo93 at att.net >>>> >>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dpaige at srcity.org >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wbain at sonic.net >>>> >> >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> > Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/desmo93 at att.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From wkilch at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 24 17:09:03 2010 From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (Walter & Gwen Kilchherr) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <824522.78320.qm@web81703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The Water Wetter should help keep the coolant temperature under the thermostat's rating, or at least lower if the temp goes beyond the rating. If you have a 180 degree stat and the temp creeps up to 200, under the same conditions the Water Wetter might keep it down to 190 or so. And you are correct, the stat only cares about temp. So WW won't make the coolant run at 170 degrees with a 180 stat. Hope I didn't confuse you more. Walter --- On Fri, 7/23/10, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote: From: Clif & Deborah Williamson Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only To: "North Bay British Car Club" Date: Friday, July 23, 2010, 11:12 PM Not sure I get it. Based on what a thermostat is suppose to do, I would think water wetter would have no effect. The thermostat doesn't care what's in the water, only the temp...correct? Or are you talking relative to over heating? Clif 74 JH -------------------------------------------------- From: "Frank Morris" Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 8:00 PM To: Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > I see it is a Redline product which is local. Comes with generally high > recommendations > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > To: North Bay British Car Club > Sent: Fri Jul 23 18:21:44 2010 > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > > Actually, it is. My local Kragen's here in the Hood has it... > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Frank Morris > wrote: > >> Where did you find the Water Wetter? Not exactly a Kragen shelf item. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >> On Behalf Of Norman S. Weinfeld >> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 3:04 PM >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >> I've used Water Wetter also with no perceivable improvement. I've >> recently >> been advised that this has to do with my also using anti-freeze and that >> they tend to cancel one another out. >> >> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:58 PM, wendell bain wrote: >> >> > I used to use Water Wetter when I was racing the Morgan in vintage >> events. >> > On a really hot day it made a difference of sometimes 15 degrees and >> that >> > really can help. Try it. >> > >> > Wendell >> > >> > >> > On Jul 23, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Paige, Dean wrote: >> > >> > That's something I will try. Couldn't hurt! >> >> >> >> Deano >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >> >> On >> >> Behalf Of marcus >> >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:21 PM >> >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >> >> >> Have your tried using Water Wetter? Use it in my Ducati 996 >> (notoriously >> >> poor >> >> cooling unless you are moving about 40) and I have not had any issues >> >> since, >> >> even in stop and go traffic. >> >> >> >> Marcus >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Paige, Dean" >> >> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" >> >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >> >> >> >> >> Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. >> Clean >> >>> as >> >>> a >> >>> whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather >> temp >> >>> re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow issue. >> >>> Really >> >>> the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 years >> or so >> >>> and >> >>> there is only maybe 700 miles on it. >> >>> >> >>> Deano >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >> >>> On >> >>> Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea >> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM >> >>> To: North Bay British Car Club >> >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >>> >> >>> Hey Dean, >> >>> >> >>> I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good >> >>> thing >> >>> I >> >>> carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just >> let go. >> >>> I >> >>> put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't >> get >> >>> my >> >>> TR >> >>> to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. >> >>> >> >>> Michael >> >>> 64 TR4 >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/desmo93 at att.net >> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dpaige at srcity.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wbain at sonic.net >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Nobbc at autox.team.net >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/norman.weinfeld at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/fmorris at sidwater.org > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wkilch at sbcglobal.net From tsthresh at hotmail.com Sat Jul 24 19:01:54 2010 From: tsthresh at hotmail.com (Tim Thresh) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:01:54 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Fwd: FW: Anglia Versus 2 Jags In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Great video Robin, I like the sideways Hillman Imp around 2:45 out. BTW this looks to be very original footage. The old "long" track- and not much in the infield pit area. I drove a 1/2 day driver training at the short/new track in the 90's ( in a BMW318 and a Formula Ford). Great fun for a 45th birthday present! That Anglia certainly sounds like a loose bag of gear cogs..... never quite seems to keep it on the cam around the tight turns. A great race but remember that the Jags were the police patrol car of choice in those days. One would have needed at least a well-tweaked Lotus Cortina to stay ahead of them in a straight line! Cheers, Tim 1958 MGA -------------------------------------------------- From: "Robin Jackson" Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:29 PM To: "North Bay British Car Club" Subject: [Nobbc] Fwd: FW: Anglia Versus 2 Jags > Hello Brit Car People - This is an interesting clip I received from my old > friend and racing buddy, Winkelmann. Nice shots of Brands Hatch and some > great driving skill displayed by his cousin Steve in the 105 Anglia > similar > to the one I drove for Bob at the Crows Landing Trans Am Sedan Races back > in > the 1960's. About 7-8 minutes into it the action with the Jags gets really > good. Enjoy! > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Robin Jackson > Date: Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:20 PM > Subject: FW: Anglia Versus 2 Jags > To: apexbrit2 at gmail.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:31:22 -0700 > Subject: Anglia Versus 2 Jags > From: > *Hi every-one,* > * > * > *This is Steve at Speed last weekend at Brands Hatch,* > *there's a part two coming.* > * > * > * > *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKykJJeW4nE > -- > Winkster > > ------------------------------ > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your > inbox. > Learn > more. > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/tsthresh at hotmail.com From jkenner at tamcab.com Sat Jul 24 19:18:29 2010 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:18:29 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] BETTER THAN WETTER Message-ID: <000001cb2b97$4b189770$e149c650$@com> Guys and Gals, All this talk about water wetter is driving me nuts. For $80 - $120 you can take off that silly stock fan and add an electric cooling fan that will keep your motor nice and cool. You even gain a couple of hp by removing the fan. You can put on 2 small ones and wire them separately and turn on one or then both if you need to or you can buy one big one and never worry. As for me I go with aluminum radiators and the fan. Never a worry. Stay Cool, JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] From hawkview at sonic.net Sat Jul 24 23:47:56 2010 From: hawkview at sonic.net (Clif & Deborah Williamson) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:47:56 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Fwd: FW: Anglia Versus 2 Jags In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9891212FEFBF45A8BCAF9E329CE3EA92@williamsonPC> Does the Anglia not have syncro? Or was that a double clutch era car? Great race. All seem to be around the same skill. I liked the way the one jag blocked out. The the Anglia almost took both cars when they were blocking each other. Looks like a lot of fun. Clif 74 JH -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Thresh" Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 6:01 PM To: "North Bay British Car Club" Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fwd: FW: Anglia Versus 2 Jags > Great video Robin, > > I like the sideways Hillman Imp around 2:45 out. > > BTW this looks to be very original footage. The old "long" track- and not > much in the infield pit area. > I drove a 1/2 day driver training at the short/new track in the 90's ( in > a BMW318 and a Formula Ford). Great fun for a 45th birthday present! > > That Anglia certainly sounds like a loose bag of gear cogs..... never > quite seems to keep it on the cam around the tight turns. A great race but > remember that the Jags were the police patrol car of choice in those days. > One would have needed at least a well-tweaked Lotus Cortina to stay ahead > of them in a straight line! > > Cheers, Tim > 1958 MGA > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Robin Jackson" > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:29 PM > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Subject: [Nobbc] Fwd: FW: Anglia Versus 2 Jags > >> Hello Brit Car People - This is an interesting clip I received from my >> old >> friend and racing buddy, Winkelmann. Nice shots of Brands Hatch and some >> great driving skill displayed by his cousin Steve in the 105 Anglia >> similar >> to the one I drove for Bob at the Crows Landing Trans Am Sedan Races back >> in >> the 1960's. About 7-8 minutes into it the action with the Jags gets >> really >> good. Enjoy! >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Robin Jackson >> Date: Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:20 PM >> Subject: FW: Anglia Versus 2 Jags >> To: apexbrit2 at gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:31:22 -0700 >> Subject: Anglia Versus 2 Jags >> From: >> *Hi every-one,* >> * >> * >> *This is Steve at Speed last weekend at Brands Hatch,* >> *there's a part two coming.* >> * >> * >> * >> *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKykJJeW4nE >> -- >> Winkster >> >> ------------------------------ >> Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your >> inbox. >> Learn >> more. >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/tsthresh at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net From paul at themussons.com Sun Jul 25 09:33:13 2010 From: paul at themussons.com (paul at themussons.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Nobbc] Fwd: FW: Anglia Versus 2 Jags In-Reply-To: <9891212FEFBF45A8BCAF9E329CE3EA92@williamsonPC> Message-ID: <33075413.39097.1280071993873.JavaMail.root@mail2c.brinkster.com> My first car was an Anglia in England in about 1969. It did have synchro in all 4 gears, though the gear change was described as stirring porridge (oatmeal) with a large screwdriver. It was a pretty conventional straight 4 cylinder, pushrod 1500 cc (I think). It's predecessor was a side valve. I burned out the valves and had to rebuild the top end. I also had to replace pistons on another one. We did it from underneath without taking the engine out - pretty easy to work on. Paul Musson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 10:47:56 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fwd: FW: Anglia Versus 2 Jags Does the Anglia not have syncro? Or was that a double clutch era car? Great race. All seem to be around the same skill. I liked the way the one jag blocked out. The the Anglia almost took both cars when they were blocking each other. Looks like a lot of fun. Clif 74 JH -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Thresh" Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 6:01 PM To: "North Bay British Car Club" Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fwd: FW: Anglia Versus 2 Jags > Great video Robin, > > I like the sideways Hillman Imp around 2:45 out. > > BTW this looks to be very original footage. The old "long" track- and > not much in the infield pit area. > I drove a 1/2 day driver training at the short/new track in the 90's ( > in a BMW318 and a Formula Ford). Great fun for a 45th birthday > present! > > That Anglia certainly sounds like a loose bag of gear cogs..... never > quite seems to keep it on the cam around the tight turns. A great race > but remember that the Jags were the police patrol car of choice in > those days. > One would have needed at least a well-tweaked Lotus Cortina to stay > ahead of them in a straight line! > > Cheers, Tim > 1958 MGA > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Robin Jackson" > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:29 PM > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Subject: [Nobbc] Fwd: FW: Anglia Versus 2 Jags > >> Hello Brit Car People - This is an interesting clip I received from >> my old >> friend and racing buddy, Winkelmann. Nice shots of Brands Hatch and >> some great driving skill displayed by his cousin Steve in the 105 >> Anglia similar >> to the one I drove for Bob at the Crows Landing Trans Am Sedan Races >> back in >> the 1960's. About 7-8 minutes into it the action with the Jags gets >> really good. Enjoy! >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Robin Jackson >> Date: Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:20 PM >> Subject: FW: Anglia Versus 2 Jags >> To: apexbrit2 at gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:31:22 -0700 >> Subject: Anglia Versus 2 Jags >> From: *Hi every-one,* >> * * >> *This is Steve at Speed last weekend at Brands Hatch,* >> *there's a part two coming.* >> * * >> * *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKykJJeW4nE >> -- Winkster >> >> ------------------------------ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. >> Search, chat and e-mail from your >> inbox. Learn >> more. >> _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/tsthresh at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/hawkview at sonic.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/paul at themussons.com From don at napanet.net Sun Jul 25 11:12:19 2010 From: don at napanet.net (don) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:12:19 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Anglia stories In-Reply-To: <33075413.39097.1280071993873.JavaMail.root@mail2c.brinkste r.com> References: <9891212FEFBF45A8BCAF9E329CE3EA92@williamsonPC> <33075413.39097.1280071993873.JavaMail.root@mail2c.brinkster.com> Message-ID: <20100725180501.85A2A24DD09@mail.napanet.net> My second car was a '57 Anglia, and it did have the sidevalve/flathead engine. Car looked like new, had only 35k miles on it, and it was ten years old. It had been in my family, belonged to my grandmother, then my uncle, then me. My dad thought it was a good car for a teenager, as he knew the car was a real slug. It had a three speed gearbox, and first was not synchcronized. It was the slowest car I have ever driven. The engine was really weak, and a friend and I put new rings in it. It had some broken rings, so the fix was the right one. Did it without removing the engine. That gave the car a little more power. The gap between 2nd and 3rd gear was huge; you would wind the hell out of the little engine in 2nd, and then it would almost lug in 3rd. The car was solid and well built, and endured the abuse I gave it. Don Scott Calistoga At 08:33 AM 07/25/2010, paul at themussons.com wrote: >My first car was an Anglia in England in about 1969. It did have >synchro in all 4 gears, though the gear change was described as >stirring porridge (oatmeal) with a large screwdriver. It was a >pretty conventional straight 4 cylinder, pushrod 1500 cc (I think). >It's predecessor was a side valve. I burned out the valves and had >to rebuild the top end. I also had to replace pistons on another >one. We did it from underneath without taking the engine out - >pretty easy to work on. > >Paul Musson From wbain at sonic.net Sun Jul 25 17:39:06 2010 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:39:06 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Fwd: FW: Anglia Versus 2 Jags In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44CC2D63-6B71-421A-85A6-F4935BB339D7@sonic.net> Nice racing footage. When I was just getting my license we became a two NEW car family in 59. That was a big deal then. Dad's car was a 59 Ford Ranchwagon and mom's was a 59 Anglia, with flathead four, three speed gearbox. Pretty limp performance, but it was supposed to be an economy car. Next we got a 61 Anglia and that one had a 1300 pushrod engine with a four speed box. A lot more fun to drive. A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away! Wendell On Jul 24, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Robin Jackson wrote: > Hello Brit Car People - This is an interesting clip I received from > my old > friend and racing buddy, Winkelmann. Nice shots of Brands Hatch and > some > great driving skill displayed by his cousin Steve in the 105 Anglia > similar > to the one I drove for Bob at the Crows Landing Trans Am Sedan > Races back in > the 1960's. About 7-8 minutes into it the action with the Jags gets > really > good. Enjoy! > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Robin Jackson > Date: Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:20 PM > Subject: FW: Anglia Versus 2 Jags > To: apexbrit2 at gmail.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:31:22 -0700 > Subject: Anglia Versus 2 Jags > From: > *Hi every-one,* > * > * > *This is Steve at Speed last weekend at Brands Hatch,* > *there's a part two coming.* > * > * > * > *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKykJJeW4nE > -- > Winkster > > ------------------------------ > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from > your inbox. > Learn more. ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/ > wbain at sonic.net From tonykorman at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 26 13:56:10 2010 From: tonykorman at sbcglobal.net (tony korman) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] How a thermostat works. In-Reply-To: <20100723175749.6924E24DCC2@mail.napanet.net> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E10171ABB9@echo01.SID.LOCAL> <548020.94788.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <2854E1CC-FF1E-4C7B-A5B6-6B887521E931@me.com> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D71@MAIL5.sr.local> <0BBA449D9B70934797B17B38F789F1B92599937D74@MAIL5.sr.local> <308223.38495.qm@web81508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100723175749.6924E24DCC2@mail.napanet.net> Message-ID: <27620.86142.qm@web81506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for the education. I have done the experiment with the thermostat in boiling water to check them in the past. I think I understand the importance in the warm up process. In Texas getting warm is not such problem in the summer. Winter maybe Thanks again Tony 76 TR6 ________________________________ From: don To: nobbc at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 12:05:34 PM Subject: [Nobbc] How a thermostat works. The trick with thermostats is to get the kind that fail open. If they fail when closed, you risk the chance of cooking your engine. I bought a '92 Integra GSR down in Redlands CA. I took the train down there, being very confident that the car was going to be as nice as the seller stated. It was. I drove it home through the desert in 100 degree summer heat, and had no problems. However, a couple days later, I drove it to work from Calistoga to Santa Rosa. Cool morning temps, and I noticed that the temperature gauge would go down to "C" when I descended hills. The problem was that the thermostat had failed. If the thermostat was working properly, the temp gauge would have stayed at "N" while going up hills, and going down. Lucky for me, the thermostat was the type that failed open. So no damage was done. The older type of thermostat fails closed, and stops the flow of coolant, risking destroying the engine. At 10:27 PM 07/22/2010, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote: >Tony. >How a thermostat works. > From google. >Any liquid-cooled car engine has a small device called the >thermostat that sits between the engine and the radiator. The >thermostat in most cars is about 2 inches (5 cm) in diameter. Its >job is to block the flow of coolant to the radiator until the engine >has warmed up. When the engine is cold, no coolant flows through the >engine. Once the engine reaches its operating temperature (generally >about 200 degrees F, 95 degrees C), the thermostat opens. By letting >the engine warm up as quickly as possible, the thermostat reduces >engine wear, deposits and emissions. > >If you ever have the chance to test one, a thermostat is an amazing >thing to watch because what they do seems impossible. You can put >one in a pot of boiling water on the stove. As it heats up, its >valve opens about an inch, apparently by magic! If you'd like to try >this yourself, go to a car parts store and buy one for a couple of bucks. > >The secret of the thermostat lies in the small cylinder located on >the engine-side of the device. This cylinder is filled with a wax >that begins to melt at perhaps 180 degrees F (different thermostats >open at different temperatures, but 180 F/82 C is a common >temperature). A rod connected to the valve presses into this wax. >When the wax melts, it expands significantly and pushes the rod out >of the cylinder, opening the valve. If you have read How >Thermometers Work and done the experiment with the bottle and the >straw, you have seen the same process in action. The wax happens to >expand a good bit more because it is changing from a solid to a >liquid in addition to expanding from the heat. > >Very cool, >Clif 74 jensen healey >-------------------------------------------------- >From: "tony korman" >Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:09 PM >To: "North Bay British Car Club" >Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only > >>I have always wondered why you need a thermostat for cars in Hot Weather. It >>seems to me that they have such potential to stick and it seems >>they constrict >>the water flow even when open. Would love to understand the point. >>Tony >>76 TR6 >> >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>From: Mike Gianandrea >>To: North Bay British Car Club >>Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 2:10:07 PM >>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >>Dean, >> >>Did you take out the thermostat? They can freeze up ya know. Simplest things. >> >>Michael >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Paige, Dean" >>To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" >>Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM >>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >> >> >>>Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present. Clean as a >>>whistle. Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather temp >>>re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow issue. Really >>>the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 >>>years or so and >>>there is only maybe 700 miles on it. >>> >>>Deano >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On >>>Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea >>>Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM >>>To: North Bay British Car Club >>>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only >>> >>>Hey Dean, >>> >>>I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, (good thing I >>>carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just let go. I >>>put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I >>>can't get my TR >>>to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush. >>> >>>Michael >>>64 TR4 >>>___________________ _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/tonykorman at sbcglobal.net From mvg1 at verizon.net Fri Jul 30 19:15:18 2010 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:15:18 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: It's time!!!! Message-ID: <47A4F83E869643B5977543C8B18D68B8@mike> Hello All, I have started working on the car corral for the IRL weekend at Infineon Raceway August 20-21-22. This the initial offer I received from mike D'Addario, a fair offer I beleive, but I'm working on him to sweeten the deal for us, we'll see what we get. I will forward my email to Mike to the server. We need sign ups for the corral, hopefully we can get more than the thirty cars we had for the Vintage event in June. We will need to pick a day as well, as I doubt that we will have as good a turn out if we had two or all three days of the event. OK, let's burn up the server with this one. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael D'addario To: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 12:09 PM Subject: RE: It's time!!!! Michael, This is what I worked up for your club. Again, they will call me Direct for any ticket needs. I think I will be able to park your club in the Turn 3-4 area where the BMW's were parked for the Historics. Following are the prices: Friday- 10.00ea Saturday - 35.00ea Sunday - 47.50ea Upper Terrace's Turn 7, Turn 2, Turn 9 (Clubs only) Sunday - 39.00ea Lower Terrace's rows 1-10 Turn 7, Turn 2 rows 1-10 Club Weekend Pass - 85.00ea Main Grandstand Upper Shade Weekend Pass - 75.00ea Turns 2, 7 and 9 Upper Rows Weekend Pass - 65.00ea. Turns 2 and 7 Rows 1-10 Sunday All Access - 99.00ea, includes Garage/Pit Pass, reserved seat in upper terraces turns 2, 7 or 9, Q & A with Danica Patrick or the Legends of Mario Andretti, Johnny Rutherford, Rick Mears and Al Unser Jr. (this is by far an excellent value as the Garage Pit Pass by itself is 75.00ea. Let me know of any questions or concerns -----Original Message----- From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com [mailto:sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 5:30 PM To: Michael D'addario Subject: It's time!!!! Hi Mike, We need to start thinking about the car corral for the NOBBC, I like to get moving, get a larger crowd, and have something cool to off them. Whatcha Got? MVG From mvg1 at verizon.net Fri Jul 30 19:16:28 2010 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:16:28 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: It's time!!!! NOBBC Car Corral Message-ID: <6F45810A35504635836885E408524B48@mike> ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Gianandrea To: Michael D'addario Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 6:06 PM Subject: Re: It's time!!!! NOBBC Car Corral Hi Mike, Is the area in 3-4 paved, grass, or dirt? Remember that these are old british cars and these guys get them all cleaned up for this. Dirt in the cars was one of the big complaints at the vintage event, so they will all want to know. Also, as old british car owners, not all are into racing or IRL, so the ticket prices may discourage some. I want to get as many people as possible, hopefully more the 30 that showed up before. Any chance we can get them a discount on the tickets? Any other perks or freebies we can get?, say maybe borrowing Michael Andretti's 2 seater for laps (LOL)? I want to make this as cool as possible for the club. Also, I doubt that we would want more than one day for the corral, probably Sunday, what do you think? Michael Gianandrea 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael D'addario To: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 12:09 PM Subject: RE: It's time!!!! Michael, This is what I worked up for your club. Again, they will call me Direct for any ticket needs. I think I will be able to park your club in the Turn 3-4 area where the BMW's were parked for the Historics. Following are the prices: Friday- 10.00ea Saturday - 35.00ea Sunday - 47.50ea Upper Terrace's Turn 7, Turn 2, Turn 9 (Clubs only) Sunday - 39.00ea Lower Terrace's rows 1-10 Turn 7, Turn 2 rows 1-10 Club Weekend Pass - 85.00ea Main Grandstand Upper Shade Weekend Pass - 75.00ea Turns 2, 7 and 9 Upper Rows Weekend Pass - 65.00ea. Turns 2 and 7 Rows 1-10 Sunday All Access - 99.00ea, includes Garage/Pit Pass, reserved seat in upper terraces turns 2, 7 or 9, Q & A with Danica Patrick or the Legends of Mario Andretti, Johnny Rutherford, Rick Mears and Al Unser Jr. (this is by far an excellent value as the Garage Pit Pass by itself is 75.00ea. Let me know of any questions or concerns -----Original Message----- From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com [mailto:sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 5:30 PM To: Michael D'addario Subject: It's time!!!! Hi Mike, We need to start thinking about the car corral for the NOBBC, I like to get moving, get a larger crowd, and have something cool to off them. Whatcha Got? MVG From wkilch at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 30 19:38:36 2010 From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (Walter & Gwen Kilchherr) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: It's time!!!! NOBBC Car Corral In-Reply-To: <6F45810A35504635836885E408524B48@mike> Message-ID: <765657.48131.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I vote for Saturday. Leaving for Cabo Sunday. Walter --- On Fri, 7/30/10, Mike Gianandrea wrote: From: Mike Gianandrea Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: It's time!!!! NOBBC Car Corral To: "nobbc" Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 6:16 PM ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Gianandrea To: Michael D'addario Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 6:06 PM Subject: Re: It's time!!!! NOBBC Car Corral Hi Mike, Is the area in 3-4 paved, grass, or dirt? Remember that these are old british cars and these guys get them all cleaned up for this. Dirt in the cars was one of the big complaints at the vintage event, so they will all want to know. Also, as old british car owners, not all are into racing or IRL, so the ticket prices may discourage some. I want to get as many people as possible, hopefully more the 30 that showed up before. Any chance we can get them a discount on the tickets? Any other perks or freebies we can get?, say maybe borrowing Michael Andretti's 2 seater for laps (LOL)? I want to make this as cool as possible for the club. Also, I doubt that we would want more than one day for the corral, probably Sunday, what do you think? Michael Gianandrea 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael D'addario To: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 12:09 PM Subject: RE: It's time!!!! Michael, This is what I worked up for your club. Again, they will call me Direct for any ticket needs. I think I will be able to park your club in the Turn 3-4 area where the BMW's were parked for the Historics. Following are the prices: Friday- 10.00ea Saturday - 35.00ea Sunday - 47.50ea Upper Terrace's Turn 7, Turn 2, Turn 9 (Clubs only) Sunday - 39.00ea Lower Terrace's rows 1-10 Turn 7, Turn 2 rows 1-10 Club Weekend Pass - 85.00ea Main Grandstand Upper Shade Weekend Pass - 75.00ea Turns 2, 7 and 9 Upper Rows Weekend Pass - 65.00ea. Turns 2 and 7 Rows 1-10 Sunday All Access - 99.00ea, includes Garage/Pit Pass, reserved seat in upper terraces turns 2, 7 or 9, Q & A with Danica Patrick or the Legends of Mario Andretti, Johnny Rutherford, Rick Mears and Al Unser Jr. (this is by far an excellent value as the Garage Pit Pass by itself is 75.00ea. Let me know of any questions or concerns -----Original Message----- From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com [mailto:sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 5:30 PM To: Michael D'addario Subject: It's time!!!! Hi Mike, We need to start thinking about the car corral for the NOBBC, I like to get moving, get a larger crowd, and have something cool to off them. Whatcha Got? MVG _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wkilch at sbcglobal.net From jkenner at tamcab.com Fri Jul 30 20:57:54 2010 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:57:54 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: It's time!!!! NOBBC Car Corral In-Reply-To: <765657.48131.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <6F45810A35504635836885E408524B48@mike> <765657.48131.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001201cb305c$2d8a8b90$889fa2b0$@com> I vote we all go to Cabo JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Walter & Gwen Kilchherr Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 6:39 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: It's time!!!! NOBBC Car Corral I vote for Saturday. Leaving for Cabo Sunday. Walter --- On Fri, 7/30/10, Mike Gianandrea wrote: From: Mike Gianandrea Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: It's time!!!! NOBBC Car Corral To: "nobbc" Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 6:16 PM ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Gianandrea To: Michael D'addario Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 6:06 PM Subject: Re: It's time!!!! NOBBC Car Corral Hi Mike, Is the area in 3-4 paved, grass, or dirt? Remember that these are old british cars and these guys get them all cleaned up for this. Dirt in the cars was one of the big complaints at the vintage event, so they will all want to know. Also, as old british car owners, not all are into racing or IRL, so the ticket prices may discourage some. I want to get as many people as possible, hopefully more the 30 that showed up before. Any chance we can get them a discount on the tickets? Any other perks or freebies we can get?, say maybe borrowing Michael Andretti's 2 seater for laps (LOL)? I want to make this as cool as possible for the club. Also, I doubt that we would want more than one day for the corral, probably Sunday, what do you think? Michael Gianandrea 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael D'addario To: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 12:09 PM Subject: RE: It's time!!!! Michael, This is what I worked up for your club. Again, they will call me Direct for any ticket needs. I think I will be able to park your club in the Turn 3-4 area where the BMW's were parked for the Historics. Following are the prices: Friday- 10.00ea Saturday - 35.00ea Sunday - 47.50ea Upper Terrace's Turn 7, Turn 2, Turn 9 (Clubs only) Sunday - 39.00ea Lower Terrace's rows 1-10 Turn 7, Turn 2 rows 1-10 Club Weekend Pass - 85.00ea Main Grandstand Upper Shade Weekend Pass - 75.00ea Turns 2, 7 and 9 Upper Rows Weekend Pass - 65.00ea. Turns 2 and 7 Rows 1-10 Sunday All Access - 99.00ea, includes Garage/Pit Pass, reserved seat in upper terraces turns 2, 7 or 9, Q & A with Danica Patrick or the Legends of Mario Andretti, Johnny Rutherford, Rick Mears and Al Unser Jr. (this is by far an excellent value as the Garage Pit Pass by itself is 75.00ea. Let me know of any questions or concerns -----Original Message----- From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com [mailto:sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 5:30 PM To: Michael D'addario Subject: It's time!!!! Hi Mike, We need to start thinking about the car corral for the NOBBC, I like to get moving, get a larger crowd, and have something cool to off them. Whatcha Got? MVG _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wkilch at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jkenner at tamcab.com From dawsonchurch at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 21:07:12 2010 From: dawsonchurch at gmail.com (Dawson Church) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:07:12 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: It's time!!!! NOBBC Car Corral In-Reply-To: <001201cb305c$2d8a8b90$889fa2b0$@com> References: <6F45810A35504635836885E408524B48@mike> <765657.48131.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001201cb305c$2d8a8b90$889fa2b0$@com> Message-ID: It's a long drive to Cabo, about 1,000 miles, I'm not sure my old Lotus could make it. Perhaps we have a tow truck lead the ride? Laughing, Dawson On Jul 30, 2010, at 7:57 PM, John Kenner wrote: > I vote we all go to Cabo > > > JOHN KENNER > > 510 231 6803 P > 415 806 2457 C > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Walter & Gwen Kilchherr > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 6:39 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: It's time!!!! NOBBC Car Corral > > I vote for Saturday. > Leaving for Cabo Sunday. > > Walter > > --- On Fri, 7/30/10, Mike Gianandrea wrote: > > From: Mike Gianandrea > Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: It's time!!!! NOBBC Car Corral > To: "nobbc" > Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 6:16 PM > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike Gianandrea > To: Michael D'addario > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 6:06 PM > Subject: Re: It's time!!!! NOBBC Car Corral > > > Hi Mike, > > Is the area in 3-4 paved, grass, or dirt? Remember that these are old > british > cars and these guys get them all cleaned up for this. Dirt in the cars was > one > of the big complaints at the vintage event, so they will all want to know. > Also, as old british car owners, not all are into racing or IRL, so the > ticket > prices may discourage some. I want to get as many people as possible, > hopefully more the 30 that showed up before. Any chance we can get them a > discount on the tickets? Any other perks or freebies we can get?, say maybe > borrowing Michael Andretti's 2 seater for laps (LOL)? I want to make this as > cool as possible for the club. Also, I doubt that we would want more than > one > day for the corral, probably Sunday, what do you think? > > Michael Gianandrea > 64 TR4 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael D'addario > To: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 12:09 PM > Subject: RE: It's time!!!! > > > Michael, > > This is what I worked up for your club. Again, they will call me Direct > for > any ticket needs. I think I will be able to park your club in the Turn 3-4 > area where the BMW's were parked for the Historics. Following are the > prices: > > > > > > Friday- 10.00ea > > > > Saturday - 35.00ea > > > > Sunday - 47.50ea Upper Terrace's Turn 7, Turn 2, > Turn > 9 (Clubs only) > > > > Sunday - 39.00ea Lower Terrace's rows 1-10 Turn 7, > Turn 2 rows 1-10 Club > > > > Weekend Pass - 85.00ea Main Grandstand Upper Shade > > > > Weekend Pass - 75.00ea Turns 2, 7 and 9 Upper Rows > > > > Weekend Pass - 65.00ea. Turns 2 and 7 Rows 1-10 > > > > Sunday All Access - 99.00ea, includes Garage/Pit Pass, reserved seat > in > upper terraces turns 2, 7 or 9, Q & A with Danica Patrick or the Legends of > Mario Andretti, Johnny Rutherford, Rick Mears and Al Unser Jr. (this is by > far > an excellent value as the Garage Pit Pass by itself is 75.00ea. > > > > Let me know of any questions or concerns > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com [mailto:sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 5:30 PM > To: Michael D'addario > Subject: It's time!!!! > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > We need to start thinking about the car corral for the NOBBC, I like to > get > moving, get a larger crowd, and have something cool to off them. Whatcha > Got? > > > > MVG > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wkilch at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jkenner at tamcab.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch at gmail.com From markdarley at mac.com Fri Jul 30 21:29:21 2010 From: markdarley at mac.com (MarkDarley) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:29:21 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: It's time!!!! NOBBC Car Corral In-Reply-To: <001201cb305c$2d8a8b90$889fa2b0$@com> References: <6F45810A35504635836885E408524B48@mike> <765657.48131.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001201cb305c$2d8a8b90$889fa2b0$@com> Message-ID: Not sure mine will make it to Cabo. MarkDarleyPhoto.com Cell 415-310-5252 Sent from location. On Jul 30, 2010, at 7:57 PM, John Kenner wrote: > I vote we all go to Cabo > > > JOHN KENNER > > 510 231 6803 P > 415 806 2457 C > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- > bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Walter & Gwen Kilchherr > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 6:39 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: It's time!!!! NOBBC Car Corral > > I vote for Saturday. > Leaving for Cabo Sunday. > > Walter > > --- On Fri, 7/30/10, Mike Gianandrea wrote: > > From: Mike Gianandrea > Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: It's time!!!! NOBBC Car Corral > To: "nobbc" > Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 6:16 PM > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike Gianandrea > To: Michael D'addario > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 6:06 PM > Subject: Re: It's time!!!! NOBBC Car Corral > > > Hi Mike, > > Is the area in 3-4 paved, grass, or dirt? Remember that these are old > british > cars and these guys get them all cleaned up for this. Dirt in the > cars was > one > of the big complaints at the vintage event, so they will all want to > know. > Also, as old british car owners, not all are into racing or IRL, so > the > ticket > prices may discourage some. I want to get as many people as possible, > hopefully more the 30 that showed up before. Any chance we can get > them a > discount on the tickets? Any other perks or freebies we can get?, > say maybe > borrowing Michael Andretti's 2 seater for laps (LOL)? I want to make > this as > cool as possible for the club. Also, I doubt that we would want more > than > one > day for the corral, probably Sunday, what do you think? > > Michael Gianandrea > 64 TR4 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael D'addario > To: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 12:09 PM > Subject: RE: It's time!!!! > > > Michael, > > This is what I worked up for your club. Again, they will call me > Direct > for > any ticket needs. I think I will be able to park your club in the > Turn 3-4 > area where the BMW's were parked for the Historics. Following are the > prices: > > > > > > Friday- 10.00ea > > > > Saturday - 35.00ea > > > > Sunday - 47.50ea Upper Terrace's Turn 7, Turn > 2, > Turn > 9 (Clubs only) > > > > Sunday - 39.00ea Lower Terrace's rows 1-10 > Turn 7, > Turn 2 rows 1-10 Club > > > > Weekend Pass - 85.00ea Main Grandstand Upper Shade > > > > Weekend Pass - 75.00ea Turns 2, 7 and 9 Upper Rows > > > > Weekend Pass - 65.00ea. Turns 2 and 7 Rows 1-10 > > > > Sunday All Access - 99.00ea, includes Garage/Pit Pass, > reserved seat > in > upper terraces turns 2, 7 or 9, Q & A with Danica Patrick or the > Legends of > Mario Andretti, Johnny Rutherford, Rick Mears and Al Unser Jr. (this > is by > far > an excellent value as the Garage Pit Pass by itself is 75.00ea. > > > > Let me know of any questions or concerns > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com > [mailto:sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 5:30 PM > To: Michael D'addario > Subject: It's time!!!! > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > We need to start thinking about the car corral for the NOBBC, I > like to > get > moving, get a larger crowd, and have something cool to off them. > Whatcha > Got? > > > > MVG > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wkilch at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/jkenner at tamcab.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/markdarley at mac.com From mvg1 at verizon.net Sat Jul 31 09:26:29 2010 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:26:29 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: It's time!!!! NOBBC Car Corral References: <765657.48131.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2E676C843C884783A799FF12CA58FA83@mike> I'd like to go to Cabo too, but did you happen to see Nightline last night? There have been over 1000 kidnappings and 65 deaths in that area in the last year. If you do go, take a .45 and don't stop for the police or the military, they are most likely banditos. And take John Kenner, that way if you do get stopped, you'll have something to offer them. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter & Gwen Kilchherr" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: It's time!!!! NOBBC Car Corral >I vote for Saturday. > Leaving for Cabo Sunday. > > Walter > > --- On Fri, 7/30/10, Mike Gianandrea wrote: > > From: Mike Gianandrea > Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: It's time!!!! NOBBC Car Corral > To: "nobbc" > Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 6:16 PM > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike Gianandrea > To: Michael D'addario > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 6:06 PM > Subject: Re: It's time!!!! NOBBC Car Corral > > > Hi Mike, > > Is the area in 3-4 paved, grass, or dirt? Remember that these are old > british > cars and these guys get them all cleaned up for this. Dirt in the cars was > one > of the big complaints at the vintage event, so they will all want to know. > Also, as old british car owners, not all are into racing or IRL, so the > ticket > prices may discourage some. I want to get as many people as possible, > hopefully more the 30 that showed up before. Any chance we can get them a > discount on the tickets? Any other perks or freebies we can get?, say > maybe > borrowing Michael Andretti's 2 seater for laps (LOL)? I want to make this > as > cool as possible for the club. Also, I doubt that we would want more than > one > day for the corral, probably Sunday, what do you think? > > Michael Gianandrea > 64 TR4 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael D'addario > To: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 12:09 PM > Subject: RE: It's time!!!! > > > Michael, > > This is what I worked up for your club. Again, they will call me Direct > for > any ticket needs. I think I will be able to park your club in the Turn > 3-4 > area where the BMW's were parked for the Historics. Following are the > prices: > > > > > > Friday- 10.00ea > > > > Saturday - 35.00ea > > > > Sunday - 47.50ea Upper Terrace's Turn 7, Turn 2, > Turn > 9 (Clubs only) > > > > Sunday - 39.00ea Lower Terrace's rows 1-10 Turn 7, > Turn 2 rows 1-10 Club > > > > Weekend Pass - 85.00ea Main Grandstand Upper Shade > > > > Weekend Pass - 75.00ea Turns 2, 7 and 9 Upper Rows > > > > Weekend Pass - 65.00ea. Turns 2 and 7 Rows 1-10 > > > > Sunday All Access - 99.00ea, includes Garage/Pit Pass, reserved seat > in > upper terraces turns 2, 7 or 9, Q & A with Danica Patrick or the Legends > of > Mario Andretti, Johnny Rutherford, Rick Mears and Al Unser Jr. (this is by > far > an excellent value as the Garage Pit Pass by itself is 75.00ea. > > > > Let me know of any questions or concerns > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com [mailto:sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 5:30 PM > To: Michael D'addario > Subject: It's time!!!! > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > We need to start thinking about the car corral for the NOBBC, I like to > get > moving, get a larger crowd, and have something cool to off them. Whatcha > Got? > > > > MVG > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/wkilch at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/mvg1 at verizon.net From sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com Sat Jul 31 09:28:40 2010 From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com (sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:28:40 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Reminder Message-ID: <745770B674134D0C86631282E118DCF5@mike> Just a reminder, the car corral will be at Infineon, NOT cabo. Michael 64 TR4 From ctwehn at hughes.net Sat Jul 31 09:47:25 2010 From: ctwehn at hughes.net (Charlie Wehn) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:47:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: It's time!!!! NOBBC Car Corral. I love IRL racing, especially road courses. count me in. Charlie TR6, 7, 8 References: <6F45810A35504635836885E408524B48@mike> Message-ID: <311959303.85875.1280591245819.JavaMail.mail@webmail02>