From home at drummondlaw.com Fri Jan 1 12:11:47 2010 From: home at drummondlaw.com (Dan) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 11:11:47 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010 In-Reply-To: References: <4B3CFCAB.1050007@sonic.net> Message-ID: Ron, I second Greg's comments. You're efforts are recognized and most appreciated. I'll be happy to take the reins periodically and give you some relief. Happy New Year all. Dan 66 MGB -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gregory Tatarian Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 4:16 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010 Hi Ron, I want to thank you for all of your efforts to organize our little band of drivers. You have been so instrumental in keeping us on the road together; Trish and I appreciate that Ron! In the 4-1/2 years we have been members we've seen a dedicated core of participants as well as quite a few members who make a few drives a year, some who have yet to join us, but hopefully will in the future. We've also seen more members stepping up to host drives and events (as we have enjoyed doing), and we've seen some members migrate to the WCCC for their more organized and socially-oriented drives with a more eclectic group of cars. As members of several car clubs, we've seen quite a variety of club organizational and operational styles, and the NOBBC is definitely unique in the no dues, no meetings, no organization - just drives. There's certainly room for all types in my opinion, and I hope that more people who have signed up as members will also participate in our drives. I also would love to see us venture further into occasional organized events and social activities. Having led two NOBBC drives and one Golden Gate Lotus Club drive (with John Kenner hosting the social event afterward), I have learned some lessons about leading better, more cohesive drives with groups of 15-30 cars (not easy, that), making a few mistakes along the way. We have a number of members who like to drive quickly, and others who prefer a less frantic pace, and I think there are nice ways to accommodate both, even on the same drive. It's hard to match the dedication and energy you have given to the NOBBC, Ron, but I will continue to try to ease your burden as often as possible in 2010. I still owe the club a wine tour to Saintsbury, something I started to plan last year but could not follow through with due to business constraints. As for Sunday, we may not be able to join you due to pressing family (parent) health issues, but will try. It's been great getting together with you all these past years, and I look forward to more of it! Have a safe and Happy New Year celebration, y'all! Cheers, Greg Tatarian 1971 Lotus Elan S4 DHC 1974 Triumph TR6 1974 Alfa Romeo GTV2000 _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Fri Jan 1 13:16:43 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 12:16:43 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010 In-Reply-To: <95a735e60912311948g3dd98f12nc481be4fe48455e4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B3CFCAB.1050007@sonic.net> <95a735e60912311948g3dd98f12nc481be4fe48455e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B3E582B.6060204@sonic.net> Yes, I still can't believe he's gone. RIP Steve. Ron 58 MGA Robin Jackson wrote: > And, let us not forget, this turn of the century, our point man and > originator, Steve... From andypreston at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 1 13:20:43 2010 From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 12:20:43 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010/GEARBOX PROBLEMS In-Reply-To: <226882.16078.qm@web83001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <207560.99327.qm@smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Todd, I've pulled the engine and gearbox from many MGBs over the years. It is possible to just pull the engine and possible to pull the engine/gearbox unit, but I don't know of anyone who has ever pulled the gearbox only. I believe it's impossible because you'd need to pull the gearbox backwards to disengage the first motion shaft from the flywheel and you can't do that because of the transmission tunnel. If you have an engine hoist it not a hard job and you should be able to do it over a weekend. Unfortunately I don't know of any gearbox rebuild places but I'm sure others on the list we probably respond. Good Luck, Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Todd Wright Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 3:08 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010/GEARBOX PROBLEMS Hi Ron and Club members! My 66 MGB with non O.D. died on Sunday. Does anyone know if you can pull the gearbox without taking out the motor. Had just replaced the head gasket and got it running perfect in November. Any recommendations on transmission/gearbox rebuild shop? Thanks Todd 66 MGB --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Ron Engelhardt wrote: From: Ron Engelhardt Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010 To: nobbc at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 11:34 AM I want to wish everyone a happy new year. The club has done all right this year and looks good for 2010. I have 142 names on the club roster although many are probably inactive. A more accurate count might be the members of this list server, currently 91 (I'm not sure why so many members aren't using this list as it is virtually the only thing the club communicates with anymore). Both numbers show that we are still growing gracefully. I'm sure that there are many Brit car owners in our area who are unaware of our existence so spread the word if you get the opportunity. Our no dues, no rules approach still seems valid. If you have any suggestions, comments, etc. for improvement, voice them here for implementation next year. Tomorrow looks to be a wet and wild day so the proposed ride will be cancelled. Perhaps we can do it on Sunday! I received an email from Bob the Beard of the Empire Sports Car Association (ESCA) announcing the 46th April Fools Rallye on Sunday, March 28, 2010. Many of our members have participated and enjoyed it in the past. It is not a traditional timed rallye but rather a fun rallye. If anyone wants further information, I can forward their information flyers or they have a website at http://www.sonic.net/~thebeard/. Perhaps we can go as a club. Ron 58 MGA _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From wbain at sonic.net Sat Jan 2 12:42:51 2010 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 11:42:51 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010 In-Reply-To: <4B3CFCAB.1050007@sonic.net> References: <4B3CFCAB.1050007@sonic.net> Message-ID: Happy 2010 to all in NOBBC. Especially to Ron who manages to come up with interesting routes time after time. Hope you all have a great new year. Cheers, Wendell On Dec 31, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > I want to wish everyone a happy new year. The club has done all > right this year and looks good for 2010. I have 142 names on the > club roster although many are probably inactive. A more accurate > count might be the members of this list server, currently 91 (I'm > not sure why so many members aren't using this list as it is > virtually the only thing the club communicates with anymore). Both > numbers show that we are still growing gracefully. I'm sure that > there are many Brit car owners in our area who are unaware of our > existence so spread the word if you get the opportunity. Our no > dues, no rules approach still seems valid. If you have any > suggestions, comments, etc. for improvement, voice them here for > implementation next year. > > Tomorrow looks to be a wet and wild day so the proposed ride will > be cancelled. Perhaps we can do it on Sunday! > > I received an email from Bob the Beard of the Empire Sports Car > Association (ESCA) announcing the 46th April Fools Rallye on > Sunday, March 28, 2010. Many of our members have participated and > enjoyed it in the past. It is not a traditional timed rallye but > rather a fun rallye. If anyone wants further information, I can > forward their information flyers or they have a website at http:// > www.sonic.net/~thebeard/. Perhaps we can go as a club. > > Ron > 58 MGA > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From splath at comcast.net Sat Jan 2 16:26:36 2010 From: splath at comcast.net (Steve Plath) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:26:36 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010 References: <4B3CFCAB.1050007@sonic.net> Message-ID: And a Happy New Year to all of you from those of us Marinites who don't seem to get up to Santa Rosa as often as we should. This year, who knows...................... Thanks to Ron and I imagine Steve is somewhere up there fiddling with his TR-4. Steve Plath ----- Original Message ----- From: "wendell bain" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010 > Happy 2010 to all in NOBBC. Especially to Ron who manages to come up with > interesting routes time after time. Hope you all have a great new year. > > Cheers, > > Wendell > > > On Dec 31, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > >> I want to wish everyone a happy new year. The club has done all right >> this year and looks good for 2010. I have 142 names on the club roster >> although many are probably inactive. A more accurate count might be the >> members of this list server, currently 91 (I'm not sure why so many >> members aren't using this list as it is virtually the only thing the >> club communicates with anymore). Both numbers show that we are still >> growing gracefully. I'm sure that there are many Brit car owners in our >> area who are unaware of our existence so spread the word if you get the >> opportunity. Our no dues, no rules approach still seems valid. If you >> have any suggestions, comments, etc. for improvement, voice them here >> for implementation next year. >> >> Tomorrow looks to be a wet and wild day so the proposed ride will be >> cancelled. Perhaps we can do it on Sunday! >> >> I received an email from Bob the Beard of the Empire Sports Car >> Association (ESCA) announcing the 46th April Fools Rallye on Sunday, >> March 28, 2010. Many of our members have participated and enjoyed it in >> the past. It is not a traditional timed rallye but rather a fun rallye. >> If anyone wants further information, I can forward their information >> flyers or they have a website at http:// www.sonic.net/~thebeard/. >> Perhaps we can go as a club. >> >> Ron >> 58 MGA >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From doctoddwright at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 2 17:15:16 2010 From: doctoddwright at sbcglobal.net (Todd Wright) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 16:15:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010/GEARBOX PROBLEMS In-Reply-To: <207560.99327.qm@smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <73684.22432.qm@web83004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 1/1/10, andy preston wrote: From: andy preston Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010/GEARBOX PROBLEMS To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 12:20 PM Todd, I've pulled the engine and gearbox from many MGBs over the years. It is possible to just pull the engine and possible to pull the engine/gearbox unit, but I don't know of anyone who has ever pulled the gearbox only. I believe it's impossible because you'd need to pull the gearbox backwards to disengage the first motion shaft from the flywheel and you can't do that because of the transmission tunnel. If you have an engine hoist it not a hard job and you should be able to do it over a weekend. Unfortunately I don't know of any gearbox rebuild places but I'm sure others on the list we probably respond. Good Luck, Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Todd Wright Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 3:08 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010/GEARBOX PROBLEMS Hi Ron and Club members! My 66 MGB with non O.D. died on Sunday. Does anyone know if you can pull the gearbox without taking out the motor. Had just replaced the head gasket and got it running perfect in November. Any recommendations on transmission/gearbox rebuild shop? Thanks Todd 66 MGB --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Ron Engelhardt wrote: From: Ron Engelhardt Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010 To: nobbc at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 11:34 AM I want to wish everyone a happy new year. The club has done all right this year and looks good for 2010. I have 142 names on the club roster although many are probably inactive. A more accurate count might be the members of this list server, currently 91 (I'm not sure why so many members aren't using this list as it is virtually the only thing the club communicates with anymore). Both numbers show that we are still growing gracefully. I'm sure that there are many Brit car owners in our area who are unaware of our existence so spread the word if you get the opportunity. Our no dues, no rules approach still seems valid. If you have any suggestions, comments, etc. for improvement, voice them here for implementation next year. Tomorrow looks to be a wet and wild day so the proposed ride will be cancelled. Perhaps we can do it on Sunday! I received an email from Bob the Beard of the Empire Sports Car Association (ESCA) announcing the 46th April Fools Rallye on Sunday, March 28, 2010. Many of our members have participated and enjoyed it in the past. It is not a traditional timed rallye but rather a fun rallye. If anyone wants further information, I can forward their information flyers or they have a website at http://www.sonic.net/~thebeard/. Perhaps we can go as a club. Ron 58 MGA _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From hardt at sonic.net Sun Jan 3 10:11:39 2010 From: hardt at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 09:11:39 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Drive tomorrow?? In-Reply-To: <4B400B2B.1090505@gmail.com> References: <4B400B2B.1090505@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B40CFCB.3050706@sonic.net> Let's all decide now. I'm up for it, drove around today and it was great! So noon tomorrow anyone? I'll be there. Ron 58 MGA Greg Tatarian wrote: > Hi Ron, > Did we decided if we are doing a drive on Sunday? > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian From andypreston at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 3 11:27:46 2010 From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 10:27:46 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Drive tomorrow?? In-Reply-To: <4B40CFCB.3050706@sonic.net> Message-ID: <711434.76931.qm@smtp126.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Ron, we plan on being there as well. See you around noon. Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 9:12 AM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Drive tomorrow?? Let's all decide now. I'm up for it, drove around today and it was great! So noon tomorrow anyone? I'll be there. Ron 58 MGA Greg Tatarian wrote: > Hi Ron, > Did we decided if we are doing a drive on Sunday? > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Sun Jan 3 12:17:07 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 11:17:07 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Drive today, Sunday In-Reply-To: <4B40CFCB.3050706@sonic.net> References: <4B400B2B.1090505@gmail.com> <4B40CFCB.3050706@sonic.net> Message-ID: <4B40ED33.10406@sonic.net> I know it's late notice but if you're up for a ride, we'll meet at Bad Ass at noon today. Ron 58 MGA Ron Engelhardt wrote: > Let's all decide now. I'm up for it, drove around today and it was > great! So noon tomorrow anyone? I'll be there. > > Ron > 58 MGA > > Greg Tatarian wrote: > >> Hi Ron, >> Did we decided if we are doing a drive on Sunday? >> Cheers, >> Greg Tatarian > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From mvg1 at verizon.net Fri Jan 1 18:04:43 2010 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:04:43 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: MercedesHeritage.com Newsletter: BAPE Gullwing, Barn Finds and more! References: <95A6CFA00C394B5FBBF517A9A2359863@mike> <4B3D5A19.10809@sonic.net> Message-ID: Hi Ron, Sorry about that. Go to MercedesHeritage.com and click on the search button, type in Jay Leno video. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: MercedesHeritage.com Newsletter: BAPE Gullwing, Barn Finds and more! >I think you missed the link or am I missing it? > > Ron > 58 MGA > > Mike Gianandrea wrote: >> Hello All, >> >> I'm disappointed that our ride is cancelled, hell my car is sanforized >> and >> won't shrink, and honestly, driving in the rain is my favorite thing, top >> or >> no. And I was actually going to make this one. Anyhoo, my buddy Alan >> sent me >> this Mercedes email, it may not be british, but it is a very cool car, be >> sure >> to watch the video. Happy new year to all, and be good tonight. >> >> Michael >> 64 TR4 >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: alan boring >> To: Michael Gianandrea >> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 3:23 PM >> Subject: FW: MercedesHeritage.com Newsletter: BAPE Gullwing, Barn Finds >> and >> more! >> >> >> Or, you could start a talk show >> >> A >> >> --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Robert H. Belter >> wrote: >> >> >> From: Robert H. 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We review a few of our more memorable finds. >> >> >> read more... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Forward email to friend >> >> >> >> This email was sent to rhbelter at comcast.net by >> roy at oursl.com. >> >> Update Profile/Email Address | Instant removal with >> SafeUnsubscribeb" | Privacy Policy. >> Email Marketing by >> >> >> >> >> MercedesHeritage.com | 1291 Whitethorne Way | Burlingame | >> CA | >> 94010 >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From mvg1 at verizon.net Fri Jan 1 18:29:10 2010 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:29:10 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010/GEARBOX PROBLEMS References: <207560.99327.qm@smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <10894B15AA834D13A4793843A5DDA2A7@mike> Hi Todd, I had to put clutch in my TR once, which we did by removing the seats and transmission tunnel, and moving the motor forward. There is a skid plate welded in under my tranny, so it would drop down. Pain in the but I didn't have to pull the motor. ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy preston" To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010/GEARBOX PROBLEMS > Todd, I've pulled the engine and gearbox from many MGBs over the years. > It > is possible to just pull the engine and possible to pull the > engine/gearbox > unit, but I don't know of anyone who has ever pulled the gearbox only. I > believe it's impossible because you'd need to pull the gearbox backwards > to > disengage the first motion shaft from the flywheel and you can't do that > because of the transmission tunnel. If you have an engine hoist it not a > hard job and you should be able to do it over a weekend. Unfortunately I > don't know of any gearbox rebuild places but I'm sure others on the list > we > probably respond. > > Good Luck, > > Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Todd Wright > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 3:08 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010/GEARBOX PROBLEMS > > Hi Ron and Club members! > > My 66 MGB with non O.D. died on Sunday. Does anyone know if you can pull > the gearbox without taking out the motor. Had just replaced the head > gasket > and got it running perfect in November. Any recommendations on > transmission/gearbox rebuild shop? > > Thanks > > Todd > > 66 MGB > > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > > From: Ron Engelhardt > Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010 > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 11:34 AM > > I want to wish everyone a happy new year. The club has done all right this > year and looks good for 2010. I have 142 names on the club roster although > many are probably inactive. A more accurate count might be the members of > this > list server, currently 91 (I'm not sure why so many members aren't using > this > list as it is virtually the only thing the club communicates with > anymore). > Both numbers show that we are still growing gracefully. I'm sure that > there > are many Brit car owners in our area who are unaware of our existence so > spread the word if you get the opportunity. Our no dues, no rules approach > still seems valid. If you have any suggestions, comments, etc. for > improvement, voice them here for implementation next year. > > Tomorrow looks to be a wet and wild day so the proposed ride will be > cancelled. Perhaps we can do it on Sunday! > > I received an email from Bob the Beard of the Empire Sports Car > Association > (ESCA) announcing the 46th April Fools Rallye on Sunday, March 28, 2010. > Many > of our members have participated and enjoyed it in the past. It is not a > traditional timed rallye but rather a fun rallye. If anyone wants further > information, I can forward their information flyers or they have a website > at > http://www.sonic.net/~thebeard/. Perhaps we can go as a club. > > Ron > 58 MGA > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From home at drummondlaw.com Mon Jan 4 09:00:41 2010 From: home at drummondlaw.com (Dan) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 08:00:41 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Drive today, Sunday In-Reply-To: <4B40ED33.10406@sonic.net> References: <4B400B2B.1090505@gmail.com> <4B40CFCB.3050706@sonic.net> <4B40ED33.10406@sonic.net> Message-ID: Sometimes spur of the moment is best. Great conditions, great ride yesterday. And the bald eagle was just the icing on the cake. Spectacular! Thanks, Ron. Dan -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 11:17 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Drive today, Sunday I know it's late notice but if you're up for a ride, we'll meet at Bad Ass at noon today. Ron 58 MGA Ron Engelhardt wrote: > Let's all decide now. I'm up for it, drove around today and it was > great! So noon tomorrow anyone? I'll be there. > > Ron > 58 MGA > > Greg Tatarian wrote: > >> Hi Ron, >> Did we decided if we are doing a drive on Sunday? >> Cheers, >> Greg Tatarian > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From home at drummondlaw.com Mon Jan 4 09:04:53 2010 From: home at drummondlaw.com (Dan) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 08:04:53 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Looking for Jag Parts In-Reply-To: <4B40ED33.10406@sonic.net> References: <4B400B2B.1090505@gmail.com> <4B40CFCB.3050706@sonic.net> <4B40ED33.10406@sonic.net> Message-ID: <3C8B0D569B1646B7BDC83C82CD8717A4@dandebbie> A few months back there were some postings about an '85 Jag Ser III XJ6 being parted out. Does anyone know if the car is still around or know of any other similar vintage Jag being parted out? I'm still tracking down electrical gremlins in my '86 Ser III XJ6 and things are pointing toward the fuel injector ballast. I'd like to find an old used one somewhere to test before laying out the bucks for a new one. Dan 66 MGB 86 Jag Ser III XJ6 From wbain at sonic.net Mon Jan 4 15:04:21 2010 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:04:21 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: MercedesHeritage.com Newsletter: BAPE Gullwing, Barn Finds and more! In-Reply-To: References: <95A6CFA00C394B5FBBF517A9A2359863@mike> <4B3D5A19.10809@sonic.net> Message-ID: Kinda cool. It would be better if it had been a video and not stop action photos, but still pretty good. Interesting car. We would all probably like to get our hands on one. Cheers, Wendell 59 Morgan On Jan 1, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: > Hi Ron, > > Sorry about that. Go to MercedesHeritage.com and click on the > search button, type in Jay Leno video. > > Michael > 64 TR4 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 6:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: MercedesHeritage.com Newsletter: BAPE > Gullwing, Barn Finds and more! > > >> I think you missed the link or am I missing it? >> >> Ron >> 58 MGA >> >> Mike Gianandrea wrote: >>> Hello All, >>> >>> I'm disappointed that our ride is cancelled, hell my car is >>> sanforized and >>> won't shrink, and honestly, driving in the rain is my favorite >>> thing, top or >>> no. And I was actually going to make this one. Anyhoo, my buddy >>> Alan sent me >>> this Mercedes email, it may not be british, but it is a very cool >>> car, be sure >>> to watch the video. Happy new year to all, and be good tonight. >>> >>> Michael >>> 64 TR4 >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: alan boring >>> To: Michael Gianandrea >>> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 3:23 PM >>> Subject: FW: MercedesHeritage.com Newsletter: BAPE Gullwing, Barn >>> Finds and >>> more! >>> >>> >>> Or, you could start a talk show >>> >>> A >>> >>> --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Robert H. Belter >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Robert H. Belter >>> Subject: FW: MercedesHeritage.com Newsletter: BAPE >>> Gullwing, Barn >>> Finds and more! >>> To: "alan boring" , "Gary Nakamura" >>> , "Glenn Young" , >>> "Jerry Geiszler" >>> , "D&J Schweikert" , "Jim >>> Peterson" >>> , "Lou Vasselli" >>> Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 5:01 PM >>> >>> >>> Ahoy, All, >>> >>> >>> >>> Check out the Jay Leno ride. >>> >>> >>> >>> Enjoy /s/ Bob >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Roy Spencer >>> [mailto:roy at mercedesheritage.ccsend.com] On Behalf >>> Of Roy Spencer >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:15 PM >>> To: rhbelter at comcast.net >>> Subject: MercedesHeritage.com Newsletter: BAPE Gullwing, >>> Barn Finds >>> and more! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> MercedesHeritage.com Newsletter >>> December 2009 >>> >>> >>> Greetings! >>> >>> This last newsletter of 2009 >>> finds the >>> collectible Mercedes-Benz community showing signs of stability >>> and some >>> glimpses of recovery. >>> >>> The new SLS AMG Gullwing may just >>> reignite our >>> passion for unique and satisfying Mercedes-Benz automobiles, >>> young and old. >>> >>> Be sure to view the video and >>> images of Jay >>> Leno's secret outing in the new Gullwing bellowing through the >>> hills above Los >>> Angeles. Great stuff. >>> >>> AMG has been making dreams of >>> performance >>> oriented Mercedes enthusiasts come true for decades. Their >>> Performance Studio >>> has created another gem in the extraordinary BAPE Gullwing >>> presented this >>> month. You must see this car. >>> >>> We close this month's news with a >>> few of our >>> more interesting "barn" finds. We hope you like this issue's new >>> "look" as >>> well. >>> >>> Enjoy our 56th newsletter. >>> >>> Sincerely and with best wishes >>> for 2009, >>> >>> Roy Spencer, editor >>> MercedesHeritage.com >>> roy at mercedesheritage.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> MercedesHeritage.com home> >>> >>> >>> List your car/parts/lit for free> >>> >>> Visit your favorite community> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Resources >>> >>> Research any 1954-2007SL> >>> >>> Forums> >>> >>> Event Calendar> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2009Highlights: >>> Mercedes at Pebble Beach >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Pagoda" Quick Tip >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> BAPE Gullwing: a Japanese fashion >>> designer's >>> dream >>> >>> With only eight or so >>> constructed, AMG >>> upgraded Gullwings are a rare sight. We saw one auctioned in >>> London in >>> October. Here's the wlldest one yet. What do you think of the >>> paint scheme? >>> >>> >>> >>> read more> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Jay Leno tries a new Gullwing on >>> LA's >>> "Nurburgring" >>> >>> The new SLS AMG Gullwing is >>> proving to be a >>> media darling, just like the SLR. Jay Leno likes it too. He was >>> filmed >>> blasting along his Los Angeles "track" early one morning this >>> month. Have a >>> look at this cool video and some images of the shoot. >>> >>> >>> >>> read more> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Barn Finds: A small collection of >>> weathered >>> gems >>> >>> What lies in that tattered garage >>> down the >>> street? Who knows, there might be a Gullwing hiding inside >>> sitting on flat >>> tires. We review a few of our more memorable finds. >>> >>> >>> read more... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Forward email to friend >>> >>> >>> >>> This email was sent to rhbelter at comcast.net by >>> roy at oursl.com. >>> >>> Update Profile/Email Address | Instant >>> removal with >>> SafeUnsubscribeb" | Privacy Policy. >>> Email Marketing by >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> MercedesHeritage.com | 1291 Whitethorne Way | >>> Burlingame | CA | >>> 94010 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at gmail.com Mon Jan 4 16:23:50 2010 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:23:50 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: MercedesHeritage.com Newsletter: BAPE Gullwing, Barn Finds and more! In-Reply-To: References: <95A6CFA00C394B5FBBF517A9A2359863@mike> <4B3D5A19.10809@sonic.net> Message-ID: <4B427886.7000708@gmail.com> Wendell, There actually is a video, just above the still pictures. Here's the Youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG8nQIBl7ig&feature=player_embedded This was amusing to watch, as Jay describes Mulholland Drive as a hidden racetrack. I grew up a mile away from Laurel Canyon on the other side of the hill from Hollywood. This is one of the roads Jay drives in the gullwing, and I got into much trouble over 3 formative years racing on Mulholland. It is usually well populated by police, so I'd say Jay was somewhat fortunate not to have been ticketed on this drive, although it was 0700, probably on a weekend (and the reason why traffic was light). All of our drives on Mulholland were quite a bit faster than Jay's little jaunt, and always in the dark. In my youth, everyone wanted to race Mulholland, so to avoid the "amateurs" we used to do so starting around midnight, taking as many runs as we could stay away from home for (I snuck out of the house many times to race this road). We'd set up 1-3 mile runs in one direction, then switch off our headlights so we could see oncoming "civilian" traffic reflected in the guardrails, since there are many blind turns. The video shows one turn we used to call Dead Man's Turn, for obvious reasons). Sunset Blvd. isn't really considered part of the course, but it will allow one to make a loop that gets them back onto Mulholland after a tour of Hollywood. My car was a 1969 MGB roadster, with as many mods as I could afford to make the car faster on this road, but as fast as my car was and as fast a driver as I thought I was, there were always faster cars and drivers. Generally they were either high-school or college drop-out age, male, and offspring of wealthy parents, who would replace cars as they were wrecked. One fellow high-school age racer had 3 different cars in one year, each faster than the last. My friends and I built many very fast road racer cars back then. That was also when I learned my first lesson about the limits of controlled slip angle and drift on wet pavement; 300-foot drop on the right, and steep bank hill on the left, me carooming around like a pinball barely missing the hill and the rails. The fastest ride I had was in a 60's Corvette that looked like a pile of shahooty, but the driver was an absolute madman, and the car was always driven to its limits. I tumbled out onto the ground shaking after that drive, the driver chuckling gently then burning rubber away from my quivering form. As Jay said in the video, the stuff that movies are made of... Cheers, Greg On 1/4/2010 2:04 PM, wendell bain wrote: > Kinda cool. It would be better if it had been a video and not stop > action > photos, but still pretty good. Interesting car. We would all probably > like > to get our hands on one. > > Cheers, > > Wendell > 59 Morgan From nobbc at sonic.net Mon Jan 4 18:21:02 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:21:02 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Drive today, Sunday In-Reply-To: References: <4B400B2B.1090505@gmail.com> <4B40CFCB.3050706@sonic.net> <4B40ED33.10406@sonic.net> Message-ID: <4B4293FE.8020009@sonic.net> Yes, that was as good as it gets! Unfortunately, the picture I took of the eagle didn't turn out, lost in the background scenery. Ron 58 MGA Dan wrote: > Sometimes spur of the moment is best. Great conditions, great ride > yesterday. And the bald eagle was just the icing on the cake. Spectacular! > Thanks, Ron. > > Dan From wkilch at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 4 18:36:20 2010 From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (Walter & Gwen Kilchherr) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:36:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: MercedesHeritage.com Newsletter: BAPE Gullwing, Barn Finds and more! In-Reply-To: <4B427886.7000708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <298064.93410.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Very cool! And here is "the making" of the video. They actually show some of the car. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJIy0GTOROg&NR=1 W --- On Mon, 1/4/10, Greg Tatarian wrote: From: Greg Tatarian Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: MercedesHeritage.com Newsletter: BAPE Gullwing, Barn Finds and more! To: "North Bay British Car Club" Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 3:23 PM Wendell, There actually is a video, just above the still pictures. Here's the Youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG8nQIBl7ig&feature=player_embedded This was amusing to watch, as Jay describes Mulholland Drive as a hidden racetrack. I grew up a mile away from Laurel Canyon on the other side of the hill from Hollywood. This is one of the roads Jay drives in the gullwing, and I got into much trouble over 3 formative years racing on Mulholland. It is usually well populated by police, so I'd say Jay was somewhat fortunate not to have been ticketed on this drive, although it was 0700, probably on a weekend (and the reason why traffic was light). All of our drives on Mulholland were quite a bit faster than Jay's little jaunt, and always in the dark. In my youth, everyone wanted to race Mulholland, so to avoid the "amateurs" we used to do so starting around midnight, taking as many runs as we could stay away from home for (I snuck out of the house many times to race this road). We'd set up 1-3 mile runs in one direction, then switch off our headlights so we could see oncoming "civilian" traffic reflected in the guardrails, since there are many blind turns. The video shows one turn we used to call Dead Man's Turn, for obvious reasons). Sunset Blvd. isn't really considered part of the course, but it will allow one to make a loop that gets them back onto Mulholland after a tour of Hollywood. My car was a 1969 MGB roadster, with as many mods as I could afford to make the car faster on this road, but as fast as my car was and as fast a driver as I thought I was, there were always faster cars and drivers. Generally they were either high-school or college drop-out age, male, and offspring of wealthy parents, who would replace cars as they were wrecked. One fellow high-school age racer had 3 different cars in one year, each faster than the last. My friends and I built many very fast road racer cars back then. That was also when I learned my first lesson about the limits of controlled slip angle and drift on wet pavement; 300-foot drop on the right, and steep bank hill on the left, me carooming around like a pinball barely missing the hill and the rails. The fastest ride I had was in a 60's Corvette that looked like a pile of shahooty, but the driver was an absolute madman, and the car was always driven to its limits. I tumbled out onto the ground shaking after that drive, the driver chuckling gently then burning rubber away from my quivering form. As Jay said in the video, the stuff that movies are made of... Cheers, Greg On 1/4/2010 2:04 PM, wendell bain wrote: > Kinda cool. It would be better if it had been a video and not stop > action > photos, but still pretty good. Interesting car. We would all probably > like > to get our hands on one. > > Cheers, > > Wendell > 59 Morgan _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From mewgull at sonic.net Mon Jan 4 19:23:12 2010 From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 18:23:12 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Drive today, Sunday In-Reply-To: <4B4293FE.8020009@sonic.net> References: <4B400B2B.1090505@gmail.com> <4B40CFCB.3050706@sonic.net> <4B40ED33.10406@sonic.net> <4B4293FE.8020009@sonic.net> Message-ID: Where did you guys see the Eagle? Somewhere near the Laguna? Here a shot I took up by Klamath last year. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_1579.JPG] On Jan 4, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > Yes, that was as good as it gets! Unfortunately, the picture I took > of the eagle didn't turn out, lost in the background scenery. > > Ron > 58 MGA G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** There is bad news for agoraphobics; the cure is just around the corner. From gtwincams at gmail.com Mon Jan 4 20:22:37 2010 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (gtwincams at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 03:22:37 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] Drive today, Sunday Message-ID: Flying over Lake Sonoma, Gerry. Greg ------Original Message------ From: G. Mugele Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net To: North Bay British Car Club ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Drive today, Sunday Sent: Jan 4, 2010 6:23 PM Where did you guys see the Eagle? Somewhere near the Laguna? Here a shot I took up by Klamath last year. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_1579.JPG] On Jan 4, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > Yes, that was as good as it gets! Unfortunately, the picture I took > of the eagle didn't turn out, lost in the background scenery. > > Ron > 58 MGA G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** There is bad news for agoraphobics; the cure is just around the corner. _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From bnlcott at comcast.net Mon Jan 4 20:27:13 2010 From: bnlcott at comcast.net (BNLCOTT) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 03:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Nobbc] Drive today, Sunday In-Reply-To: <135338366.7737531262661793598.JavaMail.root@sz0174a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1158392033.7739181262662033115.JavaMail.root@sz0174a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Hey! What a great ride on Sunday! Couldn't believe the weather... we are the luckiest, when the rest of the country is deep in snow. Thanks for the invite for the ride. Haven't been on one in a while. LOVED it! And the cars runs so good in cool weather, eh? Will try to upload some pics soon. On the Road! Keep on Driving! Brad '67 Healey 3000 (Baby) ----- "Ron Engelhardt" wrote: | Yes, that was as good as it gets! Unfortunately, the picture I took of | the eagle didn't turn out, lost in the background scenery. | | Ron | 58 MGA | | Dan wrote: | | > Sometimes spur of the moment is best. Great conditions, great ride | > yesterday. And the bald eagle was just the icing on the cake. Spectacular! | > Thanks, Ron. | > | > Dan | _______________________________________________ | Nobbc mailing list | Nobbc at autox.team.net | http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc | | From nobbc at sonic.net Mon Jan 4 20:40:55 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 19:40:55 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Drive today, Sunday In-Reply-To: References: <4B400B2B.1090505@gmail.com> <4B40CFCB.3050706@sonic.net> <4B40ED33.10406@sonic.net> <4B4293FE.8020009@sonic.net> Message-ID: <4B42B4C7.2000508@sonic.net> It flew by the overlook at Lake Sonoma, pretty impressive! Ron 58 MGA G. Mugele wrote: > Where did you guys see the Eagle? Somewhere near the Laguna? > > Here a shot I took up by Klamath last year. > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_1579.JPG] > On Jan 4, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > > >>Yes, that was as good as it gets! Unfortunately, the picture I took >>of the eagle didn't turn out, lost in the background scenery. >> >>Ron >>58 MGA > > > G. Mugele > mewgull at mugele.net > > *** There is bad news for agoraphobics; the cure is just around the > corner. > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jinger at pacbell.net Tue Jan 5 14:24:48 2010 From: jinger at pacbell.net (Alan and Paula Spencer) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 13:24:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] Looking for a London Taxi Message-ID: <919443.90697.qm@web80402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Calling all British car lovers! Ron Engelhardt of NOBBC suggested I use this list to try to sorce a London taxi - preferably black, classic FX4, (or even FX3?) I run Wheels, which is an agency that places special-interest cars in photo shoots, movies, special events, etc. Here's my website: www.Wheels-Cars-for-Film.com I've received a request for a London taxi to be used in a trade show in SF. The owner would qualify for a fee, still to be negotiated. If you know of somebody who owns a taxi that could be made available for static display indoors for several days, please contact me as soon as possible. Thanks! Alan Spencer 415 457 3721 jinger at pacbell.net From home at drummondlaw.com Tue Jan 5 21:24:15 2010 From: home at drummondlaw.com (Dan) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 20:24:15 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Looking for a London Taxi In-Reply-To: <919443.90697.qm@web80402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <919443.90697.qm@web80402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <21B071BB9AB74412A19E0589278C2F50@dandebbie> Seems to me I've seen one offered on craigslist. Search "Austin" in the cars section. Dan 66 MGB -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan and Paula Spencer Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 1:25 PM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: [Nobbc] Looking for a London Taxi Calling all British car lovers! Ron Engelhardt of NOBBC suggested I use this list to try to sorce a London taxi - preferably black, classic FX4, (or even FX3?) I run Wheels, which is an agency that places special-interest cars in photo shoots, movies, special events, etc. Here's my website: www.Wheels-Cars-for-Film.com I've received a request for a London taxi to be used in a trade show in SF. The owner would qualify for a fee, still to be negotiated. If you know of somebody who owns a taxi that could be made available for static display indoors for several days, please contact me as soon as possible. Thanks! Alan Spencer 415 457 3721 jinger at pacbell.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From morrisf at SIDWater.org Tue Jan 5 23:06:15 2010 From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 22:06:15 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Looking for a London Taxi Message-ID: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E1EB1682@echo01.SID.LOCAL> There is a travel agent in Fairfield with a good one. I think it is Fairfield Travel Center 707 422 9333. Good luck. Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net To: nobbc at autox.team.net Sent: Tue Jan 05 13:24:48 2010 Subject: [Nobbc] Looking for a London Taxi Calling all British car lovers! Ron Engelhardt of NOBBC suggested I use this list to try to sorce a London taxi - preferably black, classic FX4, (or even FX3?) I run Wheels, which is an agency that places special-interest cars in photo shoots, movies, special events, etc. Here's my website: www.Wheels-Cars-for-Film.com I've received a request for a London taxi to be used in a trade show in SF. The owner would qualify for a fee, still to be negotiated. If you know of somebody who owns a taxi that could be made available for static display indoors for several days, please contact me as soon as possible. Thanks! Alan Spencer 415 457 3721 jinger at pacbell.net _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From morganspierce at gmail.com Wed Jan 6 06:26:16 2010 From: morganspierce at gmail.com (Morgan Pierce) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 05:26:16 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Looking for a London Taxi In-Reply-To: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E1EB1682@echo01.SID.LOCAL> References: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E1EB1682@echo01.SID.LOCAL> Message-ID: There is one parked on Cazeneau Avenue in Sausalito, though I do not know who the owner is. Hope this helps. Morgan 72 TR6 79 Spitfire 1500 On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Frank Morris wrote: > There is a travel agent in Fairfield with a good one. I think it is > Fairfield > Travel Center 707 422 9333. Good luck. > > Frank > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue Jan 05 13:24:48 2010 > Subject: [Nobbc] Looking for a London Taxi > > Calling all British car lovers! > > Ron Engelhardt of NOBBC suggested I use this > list to try to sorce a London taxi - preferably black, classic FX4, (or > even > FX3?) I run Wheels, which is an agency that places special-interest cars > in > photo shoots, movies, special events, etc. Here's my website: > www.Wheels-Cars-for-Film.com > > I've received a request for a London taxi to be > used in a trade show in SF. The owner would qualify for a fee, still to be > negotiated. If you know of somebody who owns a taxi that could be made > available for static display indoors for several days, please contact me as > soon as possible. Thanks! > > Alan Spencer > 415 457 3721 > jinger at pacbell.net > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > -- morgan s. pierce From mvg1 at att.net Fri Jan 8 09:15:25 2010 From: mvg1 at att.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 08:15:25 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: "Save Jimmy's Old Car Picnic in Golden Gate Park!" Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Feibusch To: BRITISH CAR NETWORK Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:12 PM Subject: "Save Jimmy's Old Car Picnic in Golden Gate Park!" "Save Jimmy's Old Car Picnic in Golden Gate Park!" Seems yet another car show is fighting for survival. I have attended this show for the last 6 or 7 years and it is one of the best in the SF Bay Area. If you have been there before, you know that to be the case. If you'd like to see it continue, consider signing this petition. If you haven't been before, it's a fun event. It welcomes all people to come and celebrate classic cars while fostering community spirit and togetherness as a picnic, and moreover, raising funds for the Developmentally Disabled." Begin forwarded message: > "Save Jimmy's Old Car Picnic in Golden Gate Park!" > http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/jimmyspicnic/ > > I really think this is an important cause, and I'd like to > encourage you to add your signature, too. It's free and takes just > a few seconds of your time. > > Thanks From mvg1 at verizon.net Fri Jan 8 14:30:16 2010 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 13:30:16 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Snow Car Message-ID: Hello All, This ain't british, but check this out, maybe Ford did have a better idea. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: John Dickey To: undisclosed recipients: Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:30 AM Subject: FW: Snow Car Jessie or John Dickey --- On Fri, 1/8/10, Robert Adair wrote: From: Robert Adair Subject: FW: Snow Car To: "TKEETONDAL at aol.com" , "John and Jessie" Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 11:04 AM Check this out. It's pretty neat. --- On Thu, 1/7/10, Tom Sloan wrote: From: Tom Sloan Subject: FW: Snow Car To: "'Joe D. Hill'" , "'Larry E. Butcher'" , "'Bill Dane'" , "'lyle updike'" , "'Alvarez, Phillip J'" , "'Leslie'" , "'Jon Best'" , tjsminimart at live.com, FranzMarine at aol.com, "'Robert Adair'" Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 9:24 AM TOO COOL! This is a rare video of one of Henry Ford's inventions that never went very far. Wait until you see the automobile version it is all on here. 1926 Snow Tractor. Talk about ingenuity! This is a 1926 silent film (on video) of a tractor-snow-machine invented by Henry Ford, shown here driving it. Watch the whole thing.. Note the "hat." http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,213971.0/topicse en.html ----- End forwarded message ----- ---------------------------------------------------------------- This is a rare video of one of Henry Ford's inventions that never went very far. Wait until you see the automobile version it is all on here. 1926 Snow Tractor. Talk about ingenuity! This is a 1926 silent film (on video) of a tractor-snow-machine invented by Henry Ford, shown here driving it. Watch the whole thing. Note the "hat." http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,213971.0 /topicseen.html From wbain at sonic.net Fri Jan 8 15:07:08 2010 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:07:08 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Snow Car In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <88C523AD-969C-4BA0-8E9C-58FF55044751@sonic.net> Could you imagine getting this device past environmental impact studies now? Smog? Safety? Air bags? Still amazingly versatile. Wendell Morgan +4 On Jan 8, 2010, at 1:30 PM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: > Hello All, > > This ain't british, but check this out, maybe Ford did have a > better idea. > > Michael > 64 TR4 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Dickey > To: undisclosed recipients: > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:30 AM > Subject: FW: Snow Car > > > > > Jessie or John Dickey > > --- On Fri, 1/8/10, Robert Adair > wrote: > > > From: Robert Adair > Subject: FW: Snow Car > To: "TKEETONDAL at aol.com" , "John and > Jessie" > > Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 11:04 AM > > > Check this out. It's pretty neat. > > --- On Thu, 1/7/10, Tom Sloan > wrote: > > > From: Tom Sloan > Subject: FW: Snow Car > To: "'Joe D. Hill'" , "'Larry E. > Butcher'" , "'Bill Dane'" > , > "'lyle updike'" , "'Alvarez, Phillip J'" > , "'Leslie'" , "'Jon > Best'" > , tjsminimart at live.com, > FranzMarine at aol.com, "'Robert > Adair'" > Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 9:24 AM > > > > > > > TOO COOL! > > This is a rare video of one of Henry Ford's > inventions that > never went > very far. > Wait until you see the automobile version it is all > on here. > 1926 Snow Tractor. Talk about ingenuity! > > This is a 1926 silent film (on video) of a > tractor-snow-machine > invented by Henry Ford, shown here driving it. > > Watch the whole thing.. Note the "hat." > http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic, > 213971.0/topicse > en.html > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > This is a rare video of one of Henry Ford's > inventions > that never went very far. > Wait until you see the automobile version > it is all on > here. > 1926 Snow Tractor. Talk about ingenuity! > This is a 1926 silent film (on video) of a > tractor-snow-machine invented by Henry Ford, shown here driving it. > Watch the whole thing. Note the "hat." > > > > http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/ > topic,213971.0 > /topicseen.html > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From markdarley at mac.com Fri Jan 8 15:11:31 2010 From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley) Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:11:31 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Snow Car In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6D84E486-BB31-4822-A4CB-C94E0A621465@mac.com> My brother in Hampshire (UK) could have used this a couple of weeks ago! Mark Darley markdarley at mac.com Mobile Phone 415 310 5252 On Jan 8, 2010, at 1:30 PM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: > Hello All, > > This ain't british, but check this out, maybe Ford did have a > better idea. > > Michael > 64 TR4 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Dickey > To: undisclosed recipients: > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:30 AM > Subject: FW: Snow Car > > > > > Jessie or John Dickey > > --- On Fri, 1/8/10, Robert Adair > wrote: > > > From: Robert Adair > Subject: FW: Snow Car > To: "TKEETONDAL at aol.com" , "John and > Jessie" > > Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 11:04 AM > > > Check this out. It's pretty neat. > > --- On Thu, 1/7/10, Tom Sloan > wrote: > > > From: Tom Sloan > Subject: FW: Snow Car > To: "'Joe D. Hill'" , "'Larry E. > Butcher'" , "'Bill Dane'" > , > "'lyle updike'" , "'Alvarez, Phillip J'" > , "'Leslie'" , "'Jon > Best'" > , tjsminimart at live.com, > FranzMarine at aol.com, "'Robert > Adair'" > Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 9:24 AM > > > > > > > TOO COOL! > > This is a rare video of one of Henry Ford's > inventions that > never went > very far. > Wait until you see the automobile version it is all > on here. > 1926 Snow Tractor. Talk about ingenuity! > > This is a 1926 silent film (on video) of a > tractor-snow-machine > invented by Henry Ford, shown here driving it. > > Watch the whole thing.. Note the "hat." > http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic, > 213971.0/topicse > en.html > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > This is a rare video of one of Henry Ford's > inventions > that never went very far. > Wait until you see the automobile version > it is all on > here. > 1926 Snow Tractor. Talk about ingenuity! > This is a 1926 silent film (on video) of a > tractor-snow-machine invented by Henry Ford, shown here driving it. > Watch the whole thing. Note the "hat." > > > > http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/ > topic,213971.0 > /topicseen.html > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jkenner at tamcab.com Fri Jan 8 15:47:03 2010 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:47:03 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] MACHINISTS Message-ID: <002d01ca90b4$80248330$806d8990$@com> HI GROUP, ARE ANY OF YOU MACHINISTS OR WANT TO BE MACHINISTS. I HAVE COME INTO POSSESSION OF A 1970'S JET METAL LATHE AND A 1940'S OR 50'S ATLAS SHAPER ( MILL ) THAT I WOULD LOVE TO FIND A NEW HOME FOR. IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN GETTING A GOOD DEAL ON THESE PLEASE CONTACT ME. THEY ARE BOTH IN EXCELLENT CONDITION. THANKS JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] From mvg1 at verizon.net Fri Jan 8 16:27:55 2010 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:27:55 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Snow Car References: <88C523AD-969C-4BA0-8E9C-58FF55044751@sonic.net> Message-ID: Hi Wendell, I didn't know they required smog and air bags on snow mobiles. I think old Henry invented the ultimate snow mobile 60 years before anybody. I wish I some of those drums on my TR4 the one and only time I took it to Tahoe in the snow. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "wendell bain" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Snow Car > Could you imagine getting this device past environmental impact studies > now? Smog? Safety? Air bags? Still amazingly versatile. > > Wendell > Morgan +4 > > On Jan 8, 2010, at 1:30 PM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: > >> Hello All, >> >> This ain't british, but check this out, maybe Ford did have a better >> idea. >> >> Michael >> 64 TR4 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: John Dickey >> To: undisclosed recipients: >> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:30 AM >> Subject: FW: Snow Car >> >> >> >> >> Jessie or John Dickey >> >> --- On Fri, 1/8/10, Robert Adair >> wrote: >> >> >> From: Robert Adair >> Subject: FW: Snow Car >> To: "TKEETONDAL at aol.com" , "John and Jessie" >> >> Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 11:04 AM >> >> >> Check this out. It's pretty neat. >> >> --- On Thu, 1/7/10, Tom Sloan >> wrote: >> >> >> From: Tom Sloan >> Subject: FW: Snow Car >> To: "'Joe D. Hill'" , "'Larry E. >> Butcher'" , "'Bill Dane'" >> , >> "'lyle updike'" , "'Alvarez, Phillip J'" >> , "'Leslie'" , "'Jon >> Best'" >> , tjsminimart at live.com, FranzMarine at aol.com, >> "'Robert >> Adair'" >> Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 9:24 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> TOO COOL! >> >> This is a rare video of one of Henry Ford's inventions >> that >> never went >> very far. >> Wait until you see the automobile version it is all on >> here. >> 1926 Snow Tractor. Talk about ingenuity! >> >> This is a 1926 silent film (on video) of a >> tractor-snow-machine >> invented by Henry Ford, shown here driving it. >> >> Watch the whole thing.. Note the "hat." >> http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic, >> 213971.0/topicse >> en.html >> >> >> ----- End forwarded message ----- >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> This is a rare video of one of Henry Ford's >> inventions >> that never went very far. >> Wait until you see the automobile version it is >> all on >> here. >> 1926 Snow Tractor. Talk about ingenuity! >> This is a 1926 silent film (on video) of a >> tractor-snow-machine invented by Henry Ford, shown here driving it. >> Watch the whole thing. Note the "hat." >> >> >> >> http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/ >> topic,213971.0 >> /topicseen.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at gmail.com Fri Jan 8 17:19:35 2010 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:19:35 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: Snow Car In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B47CB97.4090100@gmail.com> Hah! Now that's cool. Cheers, Greg Tatarian From mvg1 at verizon.net Fri Jan 8 19:43:32 2010 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:43:32 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] MACHINISTS References: <002d01ca90b4$80248330$806d8990$@com> Message-ID: What do you want for them John? Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kenner" To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:47 PM Subject: [Nobbc] MACHINISTS > HI GROUP, > > > > ARE ANY OF YOU MACHINISTS OR WANT TO BE MACHINISTS. > > > > I HAVE COME INTO POSSESSION OF A 1970'S JET METAL LATHE AND A 1940'S OR > 50'S > ATLAS SHAPER ( MILL ) > > THAT I WOULD LOVE TO FIND A NEW HOME FOR. IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN > GETTING > A GOOD DEAL ON THESE PLEASE CONTACT ME. > > THEY ARE BOTH IN EXCELLENT CONDITION. > > > > THANKS > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > > tamalpais_s > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jkenner at tamcab.com Fri Jan 8 21:05:04 2010 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 20:05:04 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] MACHINISTS In-Reply-To: References: <002d01ca90b4$80248330$806d8990$@com> Message-ID: <004a01ca90e0$ed318500$c7948f00$@com> Mike, Send me your email address so we can talk off of the club site. Thanks jkenner at tamcab.com JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 6:44 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MACHINISTS What do you want for them John? Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kenner" To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:47 PM Subject: [Nobbc] MACHINISTS > HI GROUP, > > > > ARE ANY OF YOU MACHINISTS OR WANT TO BE MACHINISTS. > > > > I HAVE COME INTO POSSESSION OF A 1970'S JET METAL LATHE AND A 1940'S OR > 50'S > ATLAS SHAPER ( MILL ) > > THAT I WOULD LOVE TO FIND A NEW HOME FOR. IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN > GETTING > A GOOD DEAL ON THESE PLEASE CONTACT ME. > > THEY ARE BOTH IN EXCELLENT CONDITION. > > > > THANKS > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > > tamalpais_s > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Wed Jan 13 00:37:10 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:37:10 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] January Ride Reminder Message-ID: <4B4D7826.1030507@sonic.net> Our January ride will be this coming Saturday starting at noon weather permitting. If anyone has destination suggestions, post them here otherwise we'll figure something out. Ron 58 MGA From sirplb at aol.com Wed Jan 13 13:19:16 2010 From: sirplb at aol.com (sirplb at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:19:16 -0500 Subject: [Nobbc] January Ride Reminder In-Reply-To: <4B4D7826.1030507@sonic.net> References: <4B4D7826.1030507@sonic.net> Message-ID: <8CC62A4D0AD1357-16F0-1E4EF@webmail-d061.sysops.aol.com> Hi R, HNY! ! Hoping to be in attendance! Cheers, Pat 74 JH From rlmossholder at comcast.net Thu Jan 14 16:57:06 2010 From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 23:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Nobbc] January Ride Reminder In-Reply-To: <8CC62A4D0AD1357-16F0-1E4EF@webmail-d061.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1627072582.9206821263513426303.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Spitfire still not functioning, and I'll be out of town. Looks like it should be a great day for a ride. Hope you all have fun.B Hey John, Thanks again for the spare hood and windshield. I have already started the modifications on the hood, and have the latches removed for you.B B Can IB bring themB by some time next week? I am heading up to visit my Dad this weekend,B so any time afterB Monday would be fine for me. Cheers, RichB B B From nobbc at sonic.net Thu Jan 14 17:30:32 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:30:32 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] January Ride Reminder In-Reply-To: <4B4D7826.1030507@sonic.net> References: <4B4D7826.1030507@sonic.net> Message-ID: <4B4FB728.6020107@sonic.net> It's looking like we will be washed out. If it's wet Saturday, we'll cancel and try Sunday. If it's wet Sunday, guess we'll try later in the month! Ron 58 MGA Ron Engelhardt wrote: > Our January ride will be this coming Saturday starting at noon weather > permitting. If anyone has destination suggestions, post them here > otherwise we'll figure something out. > > Ron > 58 MGA > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at gmail.com Fri Jan 15 10:38:02 2010 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Gregory Tatarian) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:38:02 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] January Ride Reminder In-Reply-To: <4B4FB728.6020107@sonic.net> References: <4B4D7826.1030507@sonic.net> <4B4FB728.6020107@sonic.net> Message-ID: Hi Ron, et al., We have an important community meeting this Saturday so can't make it. The forecast I saw at 1130pm was for rain Saturday night into Sunday, then wet for 7-8 days. If that holds, Saturday might be it for awhile... Cheers, Greg On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > It's looking like we will be washed out. If it's wet Saturday, we'll cancel > and try Sunday. If it's wet Sunday, guess we'll try later in the month! > > Ron > 58 MGA > > > Ron Engelhardt wrote: > > Our January ride will be this coming Saturday starting at noon weather >> permitting. If anyone has destination suggestions, post them here otherwise >> we'll figure something out. >> >> Ron >> 58 MGA >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Fri Jan 15 15:02:14 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:02:14 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] January Ride Reminder In-Reply-To: References: <4B4D7826.1030507@sonic.net> <4B4FB728.6020107@sonic.net> Message-ID: <4B50E5E6.4080803@sonic.net> Weather.com is forecasting 30% chance of rain rain starting in the morning here rising to 60% at our meet time so I think we're SOL for tomorrow and Sunday looks even worse. Those of you with tops may want to chance it but I won't unless it really looks like rain is remote ;-) Ron 58 Topless MGA Gregory Tatarian wrote: > Hi Ron, et al., > We have an important community meeting this Saturday so can't make it. The > forecast I saw at 1130pm was for rain Saturday night into Sunday, then wet > for 7-8 days. If that holds, Saturday might be it for awhile... > Cheers, > Greg > > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > > >>It's looking like we will be washed out. If it's wet Saturday, we'll cancel >>and try Sunday. If it's wet Sunday, guess we'll try later in the month! >> >>Ron >>58 MGA >> >> >>Ron Engelhardt wrote: >> >>Our January ride will be this coming Saturday starting at noon weather >> >>>permitting. If anyone has destination suggestions, post them here otherwise >>>we'll figure something out. >>> >>>Ron >>>58 MGA >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Nobbc mailing list >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc mailing list >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From mvg1 at verizon.net Fri Jan 22 09:46:14 2010 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:46:14 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: HHO CAR OF THE FUTURE Message-ID: Hello All, Check this out, very interesting. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: John Dickey To: undisclosed recipients: Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 7:36 AM Subject: FW: HHO CAR OF THE FUTURE Jessie or John Dickey --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Allan Syrop wrote: From: Allan Syrop Subject: FW: HHO CAR OF THE FUTURE To: "Bob & Patti Herskovitz" , "John Dickey" , vbbslb at bellsouth.net Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 6:30 AM Subj: Fwd: HHO CAR OF THE FUTURE -------------------------------------------------------------------- Check this out... Subj: HHO CAR OF THE FUTURE This is the car of the future. There is only one at this time and it is worth about $5 million but this vehicle will be common place in about 10 years or so. No pollution and costs nothing to run it. Wow! I'm sold. Click here: YouTube - Top Gear - General Motors hy wire From nobbc at sonic.net Fri Jan 22 13:49:20 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:49:20 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Triumph Spitfire parts mk2] Message-ID: <4B5A0F50.6060800@sonic.net> Just talked to this fellow on the phone. He has mostly Mk II parts but also roll bar, some Mk I and GT-6 parts he needs to get rid of. If you're interested contact him at his email address or phone number below. Ron 58 MGA -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Triumph Spitfire parts mk2 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:08:03 EST From: jazznvt at aol.com To: nobbc at sonic.net Just wandering if anybody in the membership looking for parts. Matt (415)265-3661 or jazznvt at aol.com From mvg1 at verizon.net Sat Jan 23 11:14:03 2010 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:14:03 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: 1937 Ford House car Message-ID: Camping anyone? Hello All, Here's another interesting post of a vintage vehicle, and another of Ford's better ideas, Beautiful! I guess old Henry really did have his shit together. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: John Dickey To: JOHN WILLIAMS ; Jim Foster ; Michael Gianandrea ; Randy L Hitt Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 6:36 PM Subject: Fw: 1937 Ford House car Jessie or John Dickey --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Jim Mathis wrote: From: Jim Mathis Subject: 1937 Ford House car To: Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 1:51 PM What is it they say about nothing new under the sun? Check out the early motor home? Take a look at this fine looking House Car... 1937 Ford Housecar ------------------------------------------------ One of only six said to have been made per year in the mid-'30s at the Ford plant in St.Paul, Minnesota , according to an article on this car in a 1993 "Old Cars" magazine article. Very few others--perhaps none--remain on the road, and certainly not in such amazing original condition. (The only other known example that I heard of was supposedly housed in the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn , Michigan . But that turned out to be an early 1920s Model T conversion, the curator told me. He said he'd never seen anything like this '37!) When discovered in a garage (under a heavy cover) in Northern Minnesota in August 2001, she had only 19,000 miles, and the owner's manual was actually still the glove box in like-new condition! She had always been garaged and treated with much TLC as a collector vehicle. The interior, all wood lined, was still the way it appeared in the '30s and '40s, complete with framed photos of the original owner on his travels (mainly to Florida) and his cabin in the North Woods, plus and other memorabilia from the era. Built on the '37 Ford Pickup frame and cowling (powered by a 60-hp flathead V8 with aluminum heads), the rear framing is all wood, with the metal skin wrapped around it. The roof structure, too, is all wood, over which the heavy, waterproofed canvas top is still very securely fitted. The structure of the body is solid, appearing from underneath to be all oak, and still in a remarkably unaltered, undamaged condition. The door frames are thick, solid oak, and oak is visible around the window openings (as on the four side windows in back) -- though it is painted over. ------------------------------------------------ She was a big hit at this campground once we got that Great old flattie V8 hummin'! Note her expanding roof and the original dark green color, which had been repainted. I figure the canvas roof was originally painted in reflective silver to keep it from getting too hot inside. All four side windows open, while the back one tilts out to three positions. The windshield also tilts open at the bottom for natural AC while driving. ------------------------------------------------ Here are a few shots of her in August 2001, out on the road in the Chippewa National Forest north of Grand Rapids , MN ... Practicing for her next adventure: "Destination Wavecrest 2001." ------------------------------------------------ A peak inside: a slice right out of the 1930s...just as The original owner left it. All the windows open, with curtains on the four side ones and pull-down shades on the back window, as well as on the driver's and passenger door windows. A wide storage cabinet is located under the bed. ------------------------------------------------ The wood headliner, with vent and canvas expanding portion visible. Four wood pieces hold it securely in the up position, while clamps hold it down while driving. ------------------------------------------------ More interior views....note the cedar branches hanging In the corners for that north woods aroma. Cabinets and Aluminum sink (with a wood cover insert) are visible on the left. All the antiques stuck away inside, as well as those hanging on the walls, came along for the ride. Also note the table behind the driver's seat, which folds down. . __,_._,___ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] From maemly at aol.com Sat Jan 23 12:10:32 2010 From: maemly at aol.com (maemly at aol.com) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 14:10:32 EST Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: 1937 Ford House car Message-ID: <291ab.46d10604.388ca3a8@aol.com> Great story but pic's didn't come through..........................M/R From morrisf at SIDWater.org Sat Jan 23 12:41:33 2010 From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 11:41:33 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: 1937 Ford House car Message-ID: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E1EB1784@echo01.SID.LOCAL> I went on line and ckd it out. Very cool. We had a similar arrangement affixed to a VW truck back in the sixties. ----- Original Message ----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net To: nobbc at autox.team.net Sent: Sat Jan 23 11:10:32 2010 Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: 1937 Ford House car Great story but pic's didn't come through..........................M/R _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Sat Jan 23 12:44:28 2010 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 11:44:28 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: 1937 Ford House car In-Reply-To: <291ab.46d10604.388ca3a8@aol.com> References: <291ab.46d10604.388ca3a8@aol.com> Message-ID: <95a735e61001231144o1c62648aqec3b02a310defce3@mail.gmail.com> Here 'tis: http://www.gtamarketing.com/1937FordHousecar.html On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 11:10 AM, wrote: > Great story but pic's didn't come through..........................M/R > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Sat Jan 23 12:50:19 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 11:50:19 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: 1937 Ford House car In-Reply-To: <291ab.46d10604.388ca3a8@aol.com> References: <291ab.46d10604.388ca3a8@aol.com> Message-ID: <4B5B52FB.2040102@sonic.net> The list strips off attachments. I was able to google 1937 Ford Housecar and find the article, quite interesting. Ron 58 MGA maemly at aol.com wrote: > Great story but pic's didn't come through..........................M/R > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sonomashoe at gmail.com Sat Jan 23 19:52:20 2010 From: sonomashoe at gmail.com (William Shoemaker) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:52:20 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] My '61 Caddy Housecar In-Reply-To: <4B5B52FB.2040102@sonic.net> References: <291ab.46d10604.388ca3a8@aol.com> <4B5B52FB.2040102@sonic.net> Message-ID: <4B5BB5E4.9010404@gmail.com> Hi all...aside from my 2 Jag XJ6's ...I also own a '61 Caddy Housecar..runs great 23,000 original miles. My regular camping rig. I'll have to look for some better pics that show the whole body. Cheers, Bill Shoemaker Ron Engelhardt wrote: > The list strips off attachments. I was able to google 1937 Ford > Housecar and find the article, quite interesting. > > Ron > 58 MGA > > maemly at aol.com wrote: >> Great story but pic's didn't come through..........................M/R >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Summer '09 146.JPG] From nobbc at sonic.net Sat Jan 23 20:41:46 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 19:41:46 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] My '61 Caddy Housecar In-Reply-To: <4B5BB5E4.9010404@gmail.com> References: <291ab.46d10604.388ca3a8@aol.com> <4B5B52FB.2040102@sonic.net> <4B5BB5E4.9010404@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B5BC17A.3060504@sonic.net> Bill, the list strips attachments but you can post to a picture site and send us a link. Ron 58 MGA William Shoemaker wrote: > Hi all...aside from my 2 Jag XJ6's ...I also own a '61 Caddy > Housecar..runs great 23,000 original miles. > My regular camping rig. I'll have to look for some better pics that show > the whole body. > Cheers, > Bill Shoemaker > > Ron Engelhardt wrote: > >>The list strips off attachments. I was able to google 1937 Ford >>Housecar and find the article, quite interesting. >> >>Ron >>58 MGA >> >>maemly at aol.com wrote: >> >>>Great story but pic's didn't come through..........................M/R >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Nobbc mailing list >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc mailing list >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Summer '09 146.JPG] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Mon Jan 25 17:46:33 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:46:33 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] Message-ID: <4B5E3B69.5070102@sonic.net> I know some of you went last year and might be interested in this. Seems a bit pricey for an auto show so maybe a Marinite might be willing to lead a ride for those who don't want to enter the show to view the show (Hint) Ron 58 MGA -------- Original Message -------- Subject: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:10:43 -0800 From: Erma Murphy Reply-To: marinpublicity at gmail.com To: North Bay British Car Club Hello Auto lovers! Please announce to your club members, friends and in your auto related publications: Call for Entrants to the Second Annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th, 2010 - Marin Civic Center San Rafael, CA Concours Website SAN RAFAEL, CA -- Celebrate the art and history of the automobile! Having set the precedent as a world-class show and successful fundraiser for Hospice By The Bay, the Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance returns to the Marin County Fairgrounds for its second year on May 16th from 9:00 to 4:00. The event will showcase 200 exotic and rare vehicles on the lawn and 16 beautiful classic wooden boats in the lagoon. The featured marque for 2010 is Porsche. You are invited to submit your automobile for consideration as an entrant. Applications are available beginning January 1st 2010. Preference will be given to cars that did not participate last year. Entry fee is $60 if submitted before March 15th and $85 there after. Entry fee will be returned for any vehicle not selected. The fee includes admission for two adults, gift program and two continental breakfasts. For full information about the classes in this year's event please visit: Concours Website Cars will be judged on interior, exterior, engine and chassis based on authenticity, general appearance, care and preparation. Any entrant may elect to have a car judged or entered as exhibit only. Cars being judged will have field priority. Where possible, single marque classes will be judged by individual marque judges using their own rules and guidelines. All First in Class winners will be eligible to compete for Best of Show - Concours d'Elegance or Best of Show - Concours de Sport. Cars that won their class in 2009 are not eligible to be judged this year and will be displayed adjacent to the Concours Field. In addition to the concours proper, the event will host several special exhibits including vintage commercial vehicles from the Bay Area and historic Hot Rods and "Kustom Kars." There will also be exhibitors of exceptional automotive products and services plus live music, food, wine tasting and micro brew sampling as well as car related art. The designated charity for this event is Hospice By The Bay, a non-profit, end-of-life healthcare provider that has been comforting and caring for seriously ill patients and their families since 1975. For more information or for a registrant application call (415) 479-7727 or visit Concours Website I am no longer interested From andypreston at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 25 19:12:11 2010 From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:12:11 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] In-Reply-To: <4B5E3B69.5070102@sonic.net> Message-ID: <40630.72777.qm@smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi Ron, I've sent in an application, with the required photo and hefty entry fee for my MGA Coupe. I won't know if it has been accepted until later. I expect it will depend on how many "trailer queens" apply. Andy with 2000 miles already on the car and going strong. -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:47 PM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] I know some of you went last year and might be interested in this. Seems a bit pricey for an auto show so maybe a Marinite might be willing to lead a ride for those who don't want to enter the show to view the show (Hint) Ron 58 MGA -------- Original Message -------- Subject: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:10:43 -0800 From: Erma Murphy Reply-To: marinpublicity at gmail.com To: North Bay British Car Club Hello Auto lovers! Please announce to your club members, friends and in your auto related publications: Call for Entrants to the Second Annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th, 2010 - Marin Civic Center San Rafael, CA Concours Website SAN RAFAEL, CA -- Celebrate the art and history of the automobile! Having set the precedent as a world-class show and successful fundraiser for Hospice By The Bay, the Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance returns to the Marin County Fairgrounds for its second year on May 16th from 9:00 to 4:00. The event will showcase 200 exotic and rare vehicles on the lawn and 16 beautiful classic wooden boats in the lagoon. The featured marque for 2010 is Porsche. You are invited to submit your automobile for consideration as an entrant. Applications are available beginning January 1st 2010. Preference will be given to cars that did not participate last year. Entry fee is $60 if submitted before March 15th and $85 there after. Entry fee will be returned for any vehicle not selected. The fee includes admission for two adults, gift program and two continental breakfasts. For full information about the classes in this year's event please visit: Concours Website Cars will be judged on interior, exterior, engine and chassis based on authenticity, general appearance, care and preparation. Any entrant may elect to have a car judged or entered as exhibit only. Cars being judged will have field priority. Where possible, single marque classes will be judged by individual marque judges using their own rules and guidelines. All First in Class winners will be eligible to compete for Best of Show - Concours d'Elegance or Best of Show - Concours de Sport. Cars that won their class in 2009 are not eligible to be judged this year and will be displayed adjacent to the Concours Field. In addition to the concours proper, the event will host several special exhibits including vintage commercial vehicles from the Bay Area and historic Hot Rods and "Kustom Kars." There will also be exhibitors of exceptional automotive products and services plus live music, food, wine tasting and micro brew sampling as well as car related art. The designated charity for this event is Hospice By The Bay, a non-profit, end-of-life healthcare provider that has been comforting and caring for seriously ill patients and their families since 1975. For more information or for a registrant application call (415) 479-7727 or visit Concours Website I am no longer interested _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From don at napanet.net Mon Jan 25 19:31:19 2010 From: don at napanet.net (don) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:31:19 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] In-Reply-To: <4B5E3B69.5070102@sonic.net> References: <4B5E3B69.5070102@sonic.net> Message-ID: <20100126024357.292F624BA5E@mail.napanet.net> It's cheap! Pebble Beach, just to see the cars: General Admission Tickets, which include parking, shuttle service, and program, are $150 in advance and $175 on day of show. http://www.theconcoursstore.com/ At 04:46 PM 01/25/2010, you wrote: >I know some of you went last year and might be interested in this. >Seems a bit pricey for an auto show so maybe a Marinite might be >willing to lead a ride for those who don't want to enter the show to >view the show (Hint) > >Ron >58 MGA > >-------- Original Message -------- >Subject: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010 >Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:10:43 -0800 >From: Erma Murphy >Reply-To: marinpublicity at gmail.com >To: North Bay British Car Club From nobbc at sonic.net Mon Jan 25 19:34:49 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:34:49 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] In-Reply-To: <40630.72777.qm@smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <40630.72777.qm@smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B5E54C9.3090001@sonic.net> Your car is as good or better than most MGA's I've seen at shows including the 100 pointer I was parked next to at one show. If you don't get in, the show is rigged and we should all boycott it ;-0 Ron 58 MGA andy preston wrote: > Hi Ron, I've sent in an application, with the required photo and hefty entry > fee for my MGA Coupe. I won't know if it has been accepted until later. I > expect it will depend on how many "trailer queens" apply. > > Andy with 2000 miles already on the car and going strong. From liamof at earthlink.net Tue Jan 26 12:49:36 2010 From: liamof at earthlink.net (liam oflaherty) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:49:36 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] References: <40630.72777.qm@smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4B5E54C9.3090001@sonic.net> Message-ID: <000601ca9ec0$b1312d60$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21> Last Year I went to the Marin Show because it was the same weekend as the Woodland Show. Still think the Woodland Show is better but this year the Woodland show is on May 23rd and the Marin show is on the 16th so I can do both! The best thing about both shows is always the parking lots outside the show where you can see the daily drivers rather than the trailer queens inside the show. I love the running projects in all stages of rebuilding that you see in the parking lots. Just my 2 cents. Liam 57 MGA 59 Bugeye ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] > Your car is as good or better than most MGA's I've seen at shows including > the 100 pointer I was parked next to at one show. If you don't get in, the > show is rigged and we should all boycott it ;-0 > > Ron > 58 MGA > > andy preston wrote: > >> Hi Ron, I've sent in an application, with the required photo and hefty >> entry >> fee for my MGA Coupe. I won't know if it has been accepted until later. >> I >> expect it will depend on how many "trailer queens" apply. >> >> Andy with 2000 miles already on the car and going strong. > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From bluesson at hotmail.com Tue Jan 26 13:20:19 2010 From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:20:19 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] In-Reply-To: <4B5E54C9.3090001@sonic.net> References: <40630.72777.qm@smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, <4B5E54C9.3090001@sonic.net> Message-ID: My attitude towards that Marin show is (like last year) it's too damn expensive, BUT (this year) at least I'd get to hang around a bunch of Porsche owners! I used to LIKE vintage Porsches, but their owners are soooooooooo (censored). THAT show, in my mind, is the worst of all worlds. I'd rather PUSH a Grinnall Scorpion than DRIVE a Porsche. And I'd take solitary over talking to their prig owners. Tom > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:34:49 -0800 > From: nobbc at sonic.net > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] > > Your car is as good or better than most MGA's I've seen at shows > including the 100 pointer I was parked next to at one show. If you don't > get in, the show is rigged and we should all boycott it ;-0 > > Ron > 58 MGA > > andy preston wrote: > > > Hi Ron, I've sent in an application, with the required photo and hefty entry > > fee for my MGA Coupe. I won't know if it has been accepted until later. I > > expect it will depend on how many "trailer queens" apply. > > > > Andy with 2000 miles already on the car and going strong. > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ From sonomashoe at gmail.com Tue Jan 26 14:08:51 2010 From: sonomashoe at gmail.com (William Shoemaker) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:08:51 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] In-Reply-To: References: <40630.72777.qm@smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, <4B5E54C9.3090001@sonic.net> Message-ID: <4B5F59E3.5050006@gmail.com> Tom...Tell us how you really feel. :-D XJ6 Bill Tom Reier wrote: > My attitude towards that Marin show is (like last year) it's too damn > expensive, BUT (this year) at least I'd get to hang around a bunch of Porsche > owners! I used to LIKE vintage Porsches, but their owners are soooooooooo > (censored). > THAT show, in my mind, is the worst of all worlds. > I'd rather PUSH a Grinnall Scorpion than DRIVE a Porsche. And I'd take > solitary over talking to their prig owners. > Tom > > >> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:34:49 -0800 >> From: nobbc at sonic.net >> To: nobbc at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May >> > 16th 2010] > >> Your car is as good or better than most MGA's I've seen at shows >> including the 100 pointer I was parked next to at one show. If you don't >> get in, the show is rigged and we should all boycott it ;-0 >> >> Ron >> 58 MGA >> >> andy preston wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Ron, I've sent in an application, with the required photo and hefty >>> > entry > >>> fee for my MGA Coupe. I won't know if it has been accepted until later. >>> > I > >>> expect it will depend on how many "trailer queens" apply. >>> >>> Andy with 2000 miles already on the car and going strong. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From GPhillips at Dzhphillips.com Tue Jan 26 14:34:14 2010 From: GPhillips at Dzhphillips.com (Gary Phillips) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:34:14 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] In-Reply-To: <4B5F59E3.5050006@gmail.com> References: <40630.72777.qm@smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, <4B5E54C9.3090001@sonic.net> <4B5F59E3.5050006@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8D41BC74952C0649A6F5151B9D027CBC5750F6B64C@svr-exch-01> I'm a "member" of the North Bay British... ('72 red TR-6) -- and also on the Concours board. So, you can imagine, I'm finding some of the e mail traffic interesting. A couple things surprise me, like "it's too expensive". I think last year's gate was something like $15; surely that's not too much. Regarding the "snob" factor, I guess I think if you have an appreciation for fine autos, as most of us do (British, or otherwise), this is one gathering that offers some old, some restored, others not; some pieces of art (so they aren't driven, so what), others with no appeal, etc. Without being too obnoxious I hope, I guess I'd like to suggest that some lighted up and smell the car polish and enjoy the varieties of life. OK, now that's off my chest. Gary O. Phillips MBA, CPA, CVA Partner DZH Phillips LLP 33 New Montgomery Street, Suite 1530 San Francisco, California 94105 M: 415-781-2500 D: 415-624-2217 F: 415-243-8840 E: gphillips at dzhphillips.com W: www.dzhphillips.com -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of William Shoemaker Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:09 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] Tom...Tell us how you really feel. :-D XJ6 Bill Tom Reier wrote: > My attitude towards that Marin show is (like last year) it's too damn > expensive, BUT (this year) at least I'd get to hang around a bunch of Porsche > owners! I used to LIKE vintage Porsches, but their owners are soooooooooo > (censored). > THAT show, in my mind, is the worst of all worlds. > I'd rather PUSH a Grinnall Scorpion than DRIVE a Porsche. And I'd take > solitary over talking to their prig owners. > Tom > > >> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:34:49 -0800 >> From: nobbc at sonic.net >> To: nobbc at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May >> > 16th 2010] > >> Your car is as good or better than most MGA's I've seen at shows >> including the 100 pointer I was parked next to at one show. If you don't >> get in, the show is rigged and we should all boycott it ;-0 >> >> Ron >> 58 MGA >> >> andy preston wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Ron, I've sent in an application, with the required photo and hefty >>> > entry > >>> fee for my MGA Coupe. I won't know if it has been accepted until later. >>> > I > >>> expect it will depend on how many "trailer queens" apply. >>> >>> Andy with 2000 miles already on the car and going strong. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you that any tax advice contained herein (including any enclosures or attachments) was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding any penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local law provisions. This communication, including attachments, is confidential and is intended solely for the use of the recipient to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering this to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this in error and that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately. From markdarley at mac.com Tue Jan 26 14:35:10 2010 From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:35:10 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] MGA needs body work Message-ID: <68DC636F-3211-49A2-A981-7C9319E8607A@mac.com> My 58 MGA had a door creased and knocked out of line when it was shipped over from Maui. (Probably some gorilla used it to push the car when he couldn't work out how to start it). The shipping company is going to pay for repairing it (and some other dings I hope). Can anyone recommend a really good shop in Marin? Liam O'Flaherty said he thought there was a guy in Santa Rosa? who worked purely on MGAs and was a wizard. Anyone know who this is, or have another recommendation? Thanks Mark 58 Tyrolite Green MGA. Mark Darley markdarley at mac.com Mobile Phone 415 310 5252 From norman.weinfeld at gmail.com Tue Jan 26 15:06:07 2010 From: norman.weinfeld at gmail.com (Norman S. Weinfeld) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:06:07 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] In-Reply-To: <8D41BC74952C0649A6F5151B9D027CBC5750F6B64C@svr-exch-01> References: <40630.72777.qm@smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4B5E54C9.3090001@sonic.net> <4B5F59E3.5050006@gmail.com> <8D41BC74952C0649A6F5151B9D027CBC5750F6B64C@svr-exch-01> Message-ID: <320ff8001001261406u4820a3bbq4e9235910a3fe99@mail.gmail.com> I am being urged by several people, some involved with the Marin event and some not, to enter my car. It certainly would win no prizes, and that's fine by me. I own it to drive, not to show. It has been pointed out to me that there will also be an associated drive, perhaps led or at least organized by Martin Swig, whose New Year's Day drives (pardon, the Anti-Football Run) I wouldn't miss for the world. A big plus. However, while the "gate" may be only $15, entering a car, even at the early-bird discount rate and without being judged (as would be my preference) runs $60. So while this is perhaps not a crushing amount, it is also not trivial and does in fact give me pause. So I'm still on the fence on this one but trying to be as Light about it as possible. Norm Weinfeld San Francisco '55 Jaguar XK140 DHC '56 Imperial Southampton Coupe '94 Camaro Z-28 T-Top Coupe On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Gary Phillips wrote: > I'm a "member" of the North Bay British... ('72 red TR-6) -- and also on > the > Concours board. So, you can imagine, I'm finding some of the e mail > traffic > interesting. A couple things surprise me, like "it's too expensive". I > think last year's gate was something like $15; surely that's not too much. > Regarding the "snob" factor, I guess I think if you have an appreciation > for > fine autos, as most of us do (British, or otherwise), this is one gathering > that offers some old, some restored, others not; some pieces of art (so > they > aren't driven, so what), others with no appeal, etc. Without being too > obnoxious I hope, I guess I'd like to suggest that some lighted up and > smell > the car polish and enjoy the varieties of life. OK, now that's off my > chest. > > Gary O. Phillips MBA, CPA, CVA > Partner > > DZH Phillips LLP > 33 New Montgomery Street, Suite 1530 > San Francisco, California 94105 > M: 415-781-2500 > D: 415-624-2217 > F: 415-243-8840 > E: gphillips at dzhphillips.com > W: www.dzhphillips.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of William Shoemaker > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:09 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May > 16th 2010] > > Tom...Tell us how you really feel. :-D > XJ6 Bill > > > Tom Reier wrote: > > My attitude towards that Marin show is (like last year) it's too damn > > expensive, BUT (this year) at least I'd get to hang around a bunch of > Porsche > > owners! I used to LIKE vintage Porsches, but their owners are soooooooooo > > (censored). > > THAT show, in my mind, is the worst of all worlds. > > I'd rather PUSH a Grinnall Scorpion than DRIVE a Porsche. And I'd > take > > solitary over talking to their prig owners. > > Tom > > > > > >> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:34:49 -0800 > >> From: nobbc at sonic.net > >> To: nobbc at autox.team.net > >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance > May > >> > > 16th 2010] > > > >> Your car is as good or better than most MGA's I've seen at shows > >> including the 100 pointer I was parked next to at one show. If you don't > >> get in, the show is rigged and we should all boycott it ;-0 > >> > >> Ron > >> 58 MGA > >> > >> andy preston wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Hi Ron, I've sent in an application, with the required photo and hefty > >>> > > entry > > > >>> fee for my MGA Coupe. I won't know if it has been accepted until > later. > >>> > > I > > > >>> expect it will depend on how many "trailer queens" apply. > >>> > >>> Andy with 2000 miles already on the car and going strong. > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Nobbc mailing list > >> Nobbc at autox.team.net > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > >> > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you > that > any tax advice contained herein (including any enclosures or attachments) > was > not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the taxpayer for > the purpose of avoiding any penalties that may be imposed under the > Internal > Revenue Code or applicable state or local law provisions. > > This communication, including attachments, is confidential and is intended > solely for the use of the recipient to which it is addressed. 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If > you > have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately. > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jkenner at tamcab.com Tue Jan 26 15:08:32 2010 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:08:32 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] MGA needs body work In-Reply-To: <68DC636F-3211-49A2-A981-7C9319E8607A@mac.com> References: <68DC636F-3211-49A2-A981-7C9319E8607A@mac.com> Message-ID: <007101ca9ed4$1b0be460$5123ad20$@com> THE GUY IS RON WHEELER IN FORESTVILLE, NEAR SEBASTOPOL. 707 887 7030 HE RESTORED THE BODY ON MY '68 TR250 AND COMES HIGHLY RECOMMENDED JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Darley Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:35 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] MGA needs body work My 58 MGA had a door creased and knocked out of line when it was shipped over from Maui. (Probably some gorilla used it to push the car when he couldn't work out how to start it). The shipping company is going to pay for repairing it (and some other dings I hope). Can anyone recommend a really good shop in Marin? Liam O'Flaherty said he thought there was a guy in Santa Rosa? who worked purely on MGAs and was a wizard. Anyone know who this is, or have another recommendation? Thanks Mark 58 Tyrolite Green MGA. Mark Darley markdarley at mac.com Mobile Phone 415 310 5252 _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at gmail.com Tue Jan 26 15:09:36 2010 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:09:36 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] In-Reply-To: <8D41BC74952C0649A6F5151B9D027CBC5750F6B64C@svr-exch-01> References: <40630.72777.qm@smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, <4B5E54C9.3090001@sonic.net> <4B5F59E3.5050006@gmail.com> <8D41BC74952C0649A6F5151B9D027CBC5750F6B64C@svr-exch-01> Message-ID: <4B5F6820.4030606@gmail.com> Tom's email was entertaining, if a bit vituperative. It's interesting to see how tribal we humans can be - us against them sort of thing. I'm inclined towards Gary's point of view - there are nice folks in any group as much as there are buttheads. I enjoy life more because I like to give the benefit of the doubt to people, whether they own German, Italian or British cars. I know many people are very opinionated about the cars they like and the owners they will hang out with, but diversity makes life more interesting in my opinion - that's why I've got a long wish-list of classic cars from all over the world (OK, not India, China or Russia, I suppose). Regarding fees, $60-85 is too much for my blood because I don't have a concours-quality original car - the Elan is superb but not original. The Alfa will be the same, so car shows aren't really where my cars are headed, unless they are low-key affairs. I certainly enjoy looking at all of them, however! Greg Tatarian TR6 Alfa Romeo Lotus Elan On 1/26/2010 1:34 PM, Gary Phillips wrote: > I'm a "member" of the North Bay British... ('72 red TR-6) -- and also on the > Concours board. So, you can imagine, I'm finding some of the e mail traffic > interesting. A couple things surprise me, like "it's too expensive". I > think last year's gate was something like $15; surely that's not too much. > Regarding the "snob" factor, I guess I think if you have an appreciation for > fine autos, as most of us do (British, or otherwise), this is one gathering > that offers some old, some restored, others not; some pieces of art (so they > aren't driven, so what), others with no appeal, etc. Without being too > obnoxious I hope, I guess I'd like to suggest that some lighted up and smell > the car polish and enjoy the varieties of life. OK, now that's off my > chest. > > Gary O. Phillips MBA, CPA, CVA > Partner > > DZH Phillips LLP > 33 New Montgomery Street, Suite 1530 > San Francisco, California 94105 > M: 415-781-2500 > D: 415-624-2217 > F: 415-243-8840 > E: gphillips at dzhphillips.com > W: www.dzhphillips.com From mvg1 at verizon.net Tue Jan 26 15:58:37 2010 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:58:37 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] References: <40630.72777.qm@smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, <4B5E54C9.3090001@sonic.net> <4B5F59E3.5050006@gmail.com> <8D41BC74952C0649A6F5151B9D027CBC5750F6B64C@svr-exch-01> Message-ID: <4FF3175EC0CE4ABD94900D55432D8DD9@mike> I agree with Gary, if you can accept the price, whatever it is, and have the urge, go and appreciate ALL of the beautiful old cars. Maybe you can't have them, or drive them, but you can still appreciate them. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Phillips" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] > I'm a "member" of the North Bay British... ('72 red TR-6) -- and also on > the > Concours board. So, you can imagine, I'm finding some of the e mail > traffic > interesting. A couple things surprise me, like "it's too expensive". I > think last year's gate was something like $15; surely that's not too much. > Regarding the "snob" factor, I guess I think if you have an appreciation > for > fine autos, as most of us do (British, or otherwise), this is one > gathering > that offers some old, some restored, others not; some pieces of art (so > they > aren't driven, so what), others with no appeal, etc. Without being too > obnoxious I hope, I guess I'd like to suggest that some lighted up and > smell > the car polish and enjoy the varieties of life. OK, now that's off my > chest. > > Gary O. Phillips MBA, CPA, CVA > Partner > > DZH Phillips LLP > 33 New Montgomery Street, Suite 1530 > San Francisco, California 94105 > M: 415-781-2500 > D: 415-624-2217 > F: 415-243-8840 > E: gphillips at dzhphillips.com > W: www.dzhphillips.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of William Shoemaker > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:09 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May > 16th 2010] > > Tom...Tell us how you really feel. :-D > XJ6 Bill > > > Tom Reier wrote: >> My attitude towards that Marin show is (like last year) it's too damn >> expensive, BUT (this year) at least I'd get to hang around a bunch of > Porsche >> owners! I used to LIKE vintage Porsches, but their owners are soooooooooo >> (censored). >> THAT show, in my mind, is the worst of all worlds. >> I'd rather PUSH a Grinnall Scorpion than DRIVE a Porsche. And I'd >> take >> solitary over talking to their prig owners. >> Tom >> >> >>> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:34:49 -0800 >>> From: nobbc at sonic.net >>> To: nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance >>> May >>> >> 16th 2010] >> >>> Your car is as good or better than most MGA's I've seen at shows >>> including the 100 pointer I was parked next to at one show. If you don't >>> get in, the show is rigged and we should all boycott it ;-0 >>> >>> Ron >>> 58 MGA >>> >>> andy preston wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi Ron, I've sent in an application, with the required photo and hefty >>>> >> entry >> >>>> fee for my MGA Coupe. I won't know if it has been accepted until >>>> later. >>>> >> I >> >>>> expect it will depend on how many "trailer queens" apply. >>>> >>>> Andy with 2000 miles already on the car and going strong. >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you > that > any tax advice contained herein (including any enclosures or attachments) > was > not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the taxpayer > for > the purpose of avoiding any penalties that may be imposed under the > Internal > Revenue Code or applicable state or local law provisions. > > This communication, including attachments, is confidential and is intended > solely for the use of the recipient to which it is addressed. If you are > not > the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering this to > the > intended recipient, be advised that you have received this in error and > that > any use, dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If > you > have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately. > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Tue Jan 26 16:11:07 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:11:07 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] MGA needs body work In-Reply-To: <007101ca9ed4$1b0be460$5123ad20$@com> References: <68DC636F-3211-49A2-A981-7C9319E8607A@mac.com> <007101ca9ed4$1b0be460$5123ad20$@com> Message-ID: <4B5F768B.7090300@sonic.net> I'll second this. MGA doors are aluminum and difficult to work. Mine had a crease that Ron worked out (along with some major body damage to the front and a minor rear fender tear). Excellent work at reasonable rates. Ron 58 MGA John Kenner wrote: > THE GUY IS RON WHEELER IN FORESTVILLE, NEAR SEBASTOPOL. > > 707 887 7030 > > HE RESTORED THE BODY ON MY '68 TR250 AND COMES HIGHLY RECOMMENDED > > JOHN KENNER > > 510 231 6803 P > 415 806 2457 C > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Mark Darley > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:35 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: [Nobbc] MGA needs body work > > My 58 MGA had a door creased and knocked out of line when it was > shipped over from Maui. (Probably some gorilla used it to push the > car when he couldn't work out how to start it). The shipping company > is going to pay for repairing it (and some other dings I hope). > > Can anyone recommend a really good shop in Marin? > > Liam O'Flaherty said he thought there was a guy in Santa Rosa? who > worked purely on MGAs and was a wizard. Anyone know who this is, or > have another recommendation? > > Thanks > Mark > 58 Tyrolite Green MGA. > > Mark Darley > markdarley at mac.com > Mobile Phone 415 310 5252 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From rbrown at injexindustries.com Tue Jan 26 16:46:37 2010 From: rbrown at injexindustries.com (Richard Brown) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:46:37 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] In-Reply-To: References: <40630.72777.qm@smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, <4B5E54C9.3090001@sonic.net> Message-ID: <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294C894C683AD@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com> I totally agree with Tom about Porsche's, I love the cars, don't like the owners (and I was one of them, had 2 x 911's in 90's). If your on a ride in a classic car almost all other clubs will acknowledge you except the Porsche club. I asked my brother-in-law about this, he has a '06 - 911 cab and his reply was it's because Porsche are superior to every car in every way, performance, handling, build quality, pride of ownership, life style experience........(can you believe it!) So I asked about the performance, I have a 1993 Corvette ZR1 (405HP, 0-100 10.6secs) and I asked him if he wanted a drag race? His reply" its not always about the numbers! By the way Ron, the ZR1 has a Lotus motor can I bring it on a NOBBC ride? :)) Regarding the Concours I thought it was excellent and well worth the money, I enjoy the diversity and the quality of the cars, and I'm glad we have such a outstanding event so close. I will be there again this year. Richard Brown 1968 Jaguar E-Type Coupe-Pale Primrose -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Reier Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:20 PM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] My attitude towards that Marin show is (like last year) it's too damn expensive, BUT (this year) at least I'd get to hang around a bunch of Porsche owners! I used to LIKE vintage Porsches, but their owners are soooooooooo (censored). THAT show, in my mind, is the worst of all worlds. I'd rather PUSH a Grinnall Scorpion than DRIVE a Porsche. And I'd take solitary over talking to their prig owners. Tom > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:34:49 -0800 > From: nobbc at sonic.net > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance > May 16th 2010] > > Your car is as good or better than most MGA's I've seen at shows > including the 100 pointer I was parked next to at one show. If you > don't get in, the show is rigged and we should all boycott it ;-0 > > Ron > 58 MGA > > andy preston wrote: > > > Hi Ron, I've sent in an application, with the required photo and > > hefty entry > > fee for my MGA Coupe. I won't know if it has been accepted until later. I > > expect it will depend on how many "trailer queens" apply. > > > > Andy with 2000 miles already on the car and going strong. > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From norman.weinfeld at gmail.com Tue Jan 26 17:00:52 2010 From: norman.weinfeld at gmail.com (Norman S. Weinfeld) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:00:52 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] In-Reply-To: <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294C894C683AD@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com> References: <40630.72777.qm@smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4B5E54C9.3090001@sonic.net> <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294C894C683AD@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com> Message-ID: <320ff8001001261600j216e16cfocca7a819ec64bbf8@mail.gmail.com> Okay, now I have to chime in again. While Porches aren't my fantasy machines, this business about "all" these and "all" those is just ludicrous. There are a ton of Porches on the Melee driven by wonderful if lunatic people. Like everything else, there are pompous bozos and salts of the earth behind every type of wheel there is. Same goes for skin color, ethnicity, gender, etc., etc. Why, there are even decent and intelligent Texans for crying out loud. So now *I* cry, Lighten up already, and stop stereotyping. Of course, Jaguars DO rule... No wait, I didn't say that. I'm MUCH to old for such syntax... Norm Weinfeld On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Richard Brown wrote: > I totally agree with Tom about Porsche's, I love the cars, don't like the > owners (and I was one of them, had 2 x 911's in 90's). If your on a ride in > a > classic car almost all other clubs will acknowledge you except the Porsche > club. I asked my brother-in-law about this, he has a '06 - 911 cab and his > reply was it's because Porsche are superior to every car in every way, > performance, handling, build quality, pride of ownership, life style > experience........(can you believe it!) So I asked about the performance, I > have a 1993 Corvette ZR1 (405HP, 0-100 10.6secs) and I asked him if he > wanted > a drag race? His reply" its not always about the numbers! > By the way Ron, the ZR1 has a Lotus motor can I bring it on a NOBBC ride? > :)) > Regarding the Concours I thought it was excellent and well worth the money, > I > enjoy the diversity and the quality of the cars, and I'm glad we have such > a > outstanding event so close. I will be there again this year. > > Richard Brown > > 1968 Jaguar E-Type Coupe-Pale Primrose > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Tom Reier > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:20 PM > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May > 16th 2010] > > My attitude towards that Marin show is (like last year) it's too damn > expensive, BUT (this year) at least I'd get to hang around a bunch of > Porsche > owners! I used to LIKE vintage Porsches, but their owners are soooooooooo > (censored). > THAT show, in my mind, is the worst of all worlds. > I'd rather PUSH a Grinnall Scorpion than DRIVE a Porsche. And I'd take > solitary over talking to their prig owners. > Tom > > > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:34:49 -0800 > > From: nobbc at sonic.net > > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance > > May > 16th 2010] > > > > Your car is as good or better than most MGA's I've seen at shows > > including the 100 pointer I was parked next to at one show. If you > > don't get in, the show is rigged and we should all boycott it ;-0 > > > > Ron > > 58 MGA > > > > andy preston wrote: > > > > > Hi Ron, I've sent in an application, with the required photo and > > > hefty > entry > > > fee for my MGA Coupe. I won't know if it has been accepted until > later. > I > > > expect it will depend on how many "trailer queens" apply. > > > > > > Andy with 2000 miles already on the car and going strong. > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From morrisf at SIDWater.org Tue Jan 26 17:03:21 2010 From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:03:21 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] In-Reply-To: <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294C894C683AD@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com> References: <40630.72777.qm@smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, <4B5E54C9.3090001@sonic.net> <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294C894C683AD@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com> Message-ID: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E1EB17B0@echo01.SID.LOCAL> These same slams have been said in many a joke about BMW drivers...I have also witnessed the same "attitudes" from Harley riders vs other bikes. Can we really generalize about the owners of a specific marquee? For the most part, anyone who feels the brotherhood (or sisterhood) bond will acknowledge you with a wave or a tip of the hat and either the rest just don't get it or aren't worth worrying about anyway. -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Brown Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:47 PM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] I totally agree with Tom about Porsche's, I love the cars, don't like the owners (and I was one of them, had 2 x 911's in 90's). If your on a ride in a classic car almost all other clubs will acknowledge you except the Porsche club. I asked my brother-in-law about this, he has a '06 - 911 cab and his reply was it's because Porsche are superior to every car in every way, performance, handling, build quality, pride of ownership, life style experience........(can you believe it!) So I asked about the performance, I have a 1993 Corvette ZR1 (405HP, 0-100 10.6secs) and I asked him if he wanted a drag race? His reply" its not always about the numbers! By the way Ron, the ZR1 has a Lotus motor can I bring it on a NOBBC ride? :)) Regarding the Concours I thought it was excellent and well worth the money, I enjoy the diversity and the quality of the cars, and I'm glad we have such a outstanding event so close. I will be there again this year. Richard Brown 1968 Jaguar E-Type Coupe-Pale Primrose -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Reier Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:20 PM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] My attitude towards that Marin show is (like last year) it's too damn expensive, BUT (this year) at least I'd get to hang around a bunch of Porsche owners! I used to LIKE vintage Porsches, but their owners are soooooooooo (censored). THAT show, in my mind, is the worst of all worlds. I'd rather PUSH a Grinnall Scorpion than DRIVE a Porsche. And I'd take solitary over talking to their prig owners. Tom > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:34:49 -0800 > From: nobbc at sonic.net > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance > May 16th 2010] > > Your car is as good or better than most MGA's I've seen at shows > including the 100 pointer I was parked next to at one show. If you > don't get in, the show is rigged and we should all boycott it ;-0 > > Ron > 58 MGA > > andy preston wrote: > > > Hi Ron, I've sent in an application, with the required photo and > > hefty entry > > fee for my MGA Coupe. I won't know if it has been accepted until later. I > > expect it will depend on how many "trailer queens" apply. > > > > Andy with 2000 miles already on the car and going strong. > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at gmail.com Tue Jan 26 17:06:14 2010 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Gregory Tatarian) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:06:14 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] In-Reply-To: <320ff8001001261600j216e16cfocca7a819ec64bbf8@mail.gmail.com> References: <40630.72777.qm@smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4B5E54C9.3090001@sonic.net> <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294C894C683AD@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com> <320ff8001001261600j216e16cfocca7a819ec64bbf8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dude! Oh, sorry. Norm! Well said. Except for the Jaguar bit. Lotuses rule, for cryin' out loud. Except for the broken ones. Cheers, Greg On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Norman S. Weinfeld < norman.weinfeld at gmail.com> wrote: > Okay, now I have to chime in again. While Porches aren't my fantasy > machines, this business about "all" these and "all" those is just > ludicrous. > There are a ton of Porches on the Melee driven by wonderful if lunatic > people. Like everything else, there are pompous bozos and salts of the > earth > behind every type of wheel there is. Same goes for skin color, ethnicity, > gender, etc., etc. Why, there are even decent and intelligent Texans for > crying out loud. So now *I* cry, Lighten up already, and stop stereotyping. > Of course, Jaguars DO rule... No wait, I didn't say that. I'm MUCH to old > for such syntax... > > Norm Weinfeld > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Richard Brown > wrote: > > > I totally agree with Tom about Porsche's, I love the cars, don't like > the > > owners (and I was one of them, had 2 x 911's in 90's). If your on a ride > in > > a > > classic car almost all other clubs will acknowledge you except the > Porsche > > club. I asked my brother-in-law about this, he has a '06 - 911 cab and > his > > reply was it's because Porsche are superior to every car in every way, > > performance, handling, build quality, pride of ownership, life style > > experience........(can you believe it!) So I asked about the performance, > I > > have a 1993 Corvette ZR1 (405HP, 0-100 10.6secs) and I asked him if he > > wanted > > a drag race? His reply" its not always about the numbers! > > By the way Ron, the ZR1 has a Lotus motor can I bring it on a NOBBC > ride? > > :)) > > Regarding the Concours I thought it was excellent and well worth the > money, > > I > > enjoy the diversity and the quality of the cars, and I'm glad we have > such > > a > > outstanding event so close. I will be there again this year. > > > > Richard Brown > > > > 1968 Jaguar E-Type Coupe-Pale Primrose > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > On > > Behalf Of Tom Reier > > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:20 PM > > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance > May > > 16th 2010] > > > > My attitude towards that Marin show is (like last year) it's too damn > > expensive, BUT (this year) at least I'd get to hang around a bunch of > > Porsche > > owners! I used to LIKE vintage Porsches, but their owners are soooooooooo > > (censored). > > THAT show, in my mind, is the worst of all worlds. > > I'd rather PUSH a Grinnall Scorpion than DRIVE a Porsche. And I'd take > > solitary over talking to their prig owners. > > Tom > > > > > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:34:49 -0800 > > > From: nobbc at sonic.net > > > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance > > > May > > 16th 2010] > > > > > > Your car is as good or better than most MGA's I've seen at shows > > > including the 100 pointer I was parked next to at one show. If you > > > don't get in, the show is rigged and we should all boycott it ;-0 > > > > > > Ron > > > 58 MGA > > > > > > andy preston wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Ron, I've sent in an application, with the required photo and > > > > hefty > > entry > > > > fee for my MGA Coupe. I won't know if it has been accepted until > > later. > > I > > > > expect it will depend on how many "trailer queens" apply. > > > > > > > > Andy with 2000 miles already on the car and going strong. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From rbrown at injexindustries.com Tue Jan 26 17:02:46 2010 From: rbrown at injexindustries.com (Richard Brown) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:02:46 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] In-Reply-To: References: <40630.72777.qm@smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4B5E54C9.3090001@sonic.net> <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294C894C683AD@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com> <320ff8001001261600j216e16cfocca7a819ec64bbf8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294C894C683B3@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com> Greg that's all of them :)) -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gregory Tatarian Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:06 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] Dude! Oh, sorry. Norm! Well said. Except for the Jaguar bit. Lotuses rule, for cryin' out loud. Except for the broken ones. Cheers, Greg On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Norman S. Weinfeld < norman.weinfeld at gmail.com> wrote: > Okay, now I have to chime in again. While Porches aren't my fantasy > machines, this business about "all" these and "all" those is just > ludicrous. > There are a ton of Porches on the Melee driven by wonderful if lunatic > people. Like everything else, there are pompous bozos and salts of the > earth behind every type of wheel there is. Same goes for skin color, > ethnicity, gender, etc., etc. Why, there are even decent and > intelligent Texans for crying out loud. So now *I* cry, Lighten up > already, and stop stereotyping. > Of course, Jaguars DO rule... No wait, I didn't say that. I'm MUCH to > old for such syntax... > > Norm Weinfeld > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Richard Brown > wrote: > > > I totally agree with Tom about Porsche's, I love the cars, don't > > like > the > > owners (and I was one of them, had 2 x 911's in 90's). If your on a > > ride > in > > a > > classic car almost all other clubs will acknowledge you except the > Porsche > > club. I asked my brother-in-law about this, he has a '06 - 911 cab > > and > his > > reply was it's because Porsche are superior to every car in every > > way, performance, handling, build quality, pride of ownership, life > > style experience........(can you believe it!) So I asked about the > > performance, > I > > have a 1993 Corvette ZR1 (405HP, 0-100 10.6secs) and I asked him if > > he wanted a drag race? His reply" its not always about the numbers! > > By the way Ron, the ZR1 has a Lotus motor can I bring it on a NOBBC > ride? > > :)) > > Regarding the Concours I thought it was excellent and well worth the > money, > > I > > enjoy the diversity and the quality of the cars, and I'm glad we > > have > such > > a > > outstanding event so close. I will be there again this year. > > > > Richard Brown > > > > 1968 Jaguar E-Type Coupe-Pale Primrose > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > On > > Behalf Of Tom Reier > > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:20 PM > > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours > > d'Elegance > May > > 16th 2010] > > > > My attitude towards that Marin show is (like last year) it's too > > damn expensive, BUT (this year) at least I'd get to hang around a > > bunch of Porsche owners! I used to LIKE vintage Porsches, but their > > owners are soooooooooo (censored). > > THAT show, in my mind, is the worst of all worlds. > > I'd rather PUSH a Grinnall Scorpion than DRIVE a Porsche. And I'd > > take solitary over talking to their prig owners. > > Tom > > > > > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:34:49 -0800 > > > From: nobbc at sonic.net > > > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours > > > d'Elegance May > > 16th 2010] > > > > > > Your car is as good or better than most MGA's I've seen at shows > > > including the 100 pointer I was parked next to at one show. If you > > > don't get in, the show is rigged and we should all boycott it ;-0 > > > > > > Ron > > > 58 MGA > > > > > > andy preston wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Ron, I've sent in an application, with the required photo and > > > > hefty > > entry > > > > fee for my MGA Coupe. I won't know if it has been accepted > > > > until > > later. > > I > > > > expect it will depend on how many "trailer queens" apply. > > > > > > > > Andy with 2000 miles already on the car and going strong. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sonomashoe at gmail.com Tue Jan 26 17:34:36 2010 From: sonomashoe at gmail.com (William Shoemaker) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:34:36 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] In-Reply-To: <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294C894C683B3@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com> References: <40630.72777.qm@smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4B5E54C9.3090001@sonic.net> <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294C894C683AD@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com> <320ff8001001261600j216e16cfocca7a819ec64bbf8@mail.gmail.com> <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294C894C683B3@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com> Message-ID: <4B5F8A1C.70600@gmail.com> Jags do rule 8-) Richard Brown wrote: > Greg that's all of them :)) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Gregory Tatarian > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:06 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May > 16th 2010] > > Dude! > Oh, sorry. > Norm! > Well said. Except for the Jaguar bit. Lotuses rule, for cryin' out loud. > Except for the broken ones. > Cheers, > Greg > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Norman S. Weinfeld < > norman.weinfeld at gmail.com> wrote: > > >> Okay, now I have to chime in again. While Porches aren't my fantasy >> machines, this business about "all" these and "all" those is just >> ludicrous. >> There are a ton of Porches on the Melee driven by wonderful if lunatic >> people. Like everything else, there are pompous bozos and salts of the >> earth behind every type of wheel there is. Same goes for skin color, >> ethnicity, gender, etc., etc. Why, there are even decent and >> intelligent Texans for crying out loud. So now *I* cry, Lighten up >> already, and stop stereotyping. >> Of course, Jaguars DO rule... No wait, I didn't say that. I'm MUCH to >> old for such syntax... >> >> Norm Weinfeld >> >> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Richard Brown >> wrote: >> >> >>> I totally agree with Tom about Porsche's, I love the cars, don't >>> like >>> >> the >> >>> owners (and I was one of them, had 2 x 911's in 90's). If your on a >>> ride >>> >> in >> >>> a >>> classic car almost all other clubs will acknowledge you except the >>> >> Porsche >> >>> club. I asked my brother-in-law about this, he has a '06 - 911 cab >>> and >>> >> his >> >>> reply was it's because Porsche are superior to every car in every >>> way, performance, handling, build quality, pride of ownership, life >>> style experience........(can you believe it!) So I asked about the >>> performance, >>> >> I >> >>> have a 1993 Corvette ZR1 (405HP, 0-100 10.6secs) and I asked him if >>> he wanted a drag race? His reply" its not always about the numbers! >>> By the way Ron, the ZR1 has a Lotus motor can I bring it on a NOBBC >>> >> ride? >> >>> :)) >>> Regarding the Concours I thought it was excellent and well worth the >>> >> money, >> >>> I >>> enjoy the diversity and the quality of the cars, and I'm glad we >>> have >>> >> such >> >>> a >>> outstanding event so close. I will be there again this year. >>> >>> Richard Brown >>> >>> 1968 Jaguar E-Type Coupe-Pale Primrose >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >>> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Tom Reier >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:20 PM >>> To: nobbc at autox.team.net >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours >>> d'Elegance >>> >> May >> >>> 16th 2010] >>> >>> My attitude towards that Marin show is (like last year) it's too >>> damn expensive, BUT (this year) at least I'd get to hang around a >>> bunch of Porsche owners! I used to LIKE vintage Porsches, but their >>> owners are soooooooooo (censored). >>> THAT show, in my mind, is the worst of all worlds. >>> I'd rather PUSH a Grinnall Scorpion than DRIVE a Porsche. And I'd >>> take solitary over talking to their prig owners. >>> Tom >>> >>> >>>> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:34:49 -0800 >>>> From: nobbc at sonic.net >>>> To: nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours >>>> d'Elegance May >>>> >>> 16th 2010] >>> >>>> Your car is as good or better than most MGA's I've seen at shows >>>> including the 100 pointer I was parked next to at one show. If you >>>> don't get in, the show is rigged and we should all boycott it ;-0 >>>> >>>> Ron >>>> 58 MGA >>>> >>>> andy preston wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Ron, I've sent in an application, with the required photo and >>>>> hefty >>>>> >>> entry >>> >>>>> fee for my MGA Coupe. I won't know if it has been accepted >>>>> until >>>>> >>> later. >>> I >>> >>>>> expect it will depend on how many "trailer queens" apply. >>>>> >>>>> Andy with 2000 miles already on the car and going strong. >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc mailing list >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sarto477 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 26 18:07:38 2010 From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:07:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <785709.23905.qm@web113506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi all, I'll repeat what I said last year, Hospice is a great charity. They were a great help to my family 2 years ago and deserve more than they get, I missed it last year do to conflicting car shows. Should be fun and it is not far to travel. Sarto --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Gregory Tatarian wrote: From: Gregory Tatarian Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] To: "North Bay British Car Club" Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 4:06 PM Dude! Oh, sorry. Norm! Well said. Except for the Jaguar bit. Lotuses rule, for cryin' out loud. Except for the broken ones. Cheers, Greg On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Norman S. Weinfeld < norman.weinfeld at gmail.com> wrote: > Okay, now I have to chime in again. While Porches aren't my fantasy > machines, this business about "all" these and "all" those is just > ludicrous. > There are a ton of Porches on the Melee driven by wonderful if lunatic > people. Like everything else, there are pompous bozos and salts of the > earth > behind every type of wheel there is. Same goes for skin color, ethnicity, > gender, etc., etc. Why, there are even decent and intelligent Texans for > crying out loud. So now *I* cry, Lighten up already, and stop stereotyping. > Of course, Jaguars DO rule... No wait, I didn't say that. I'm MUCH to old > for such syntax... > > Norm Weinfeld > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Richard Brown > wrote: > > > I totally agree with Tom about Porsche's, I love the cars, don't like > the > > owners (and I was one of them, had 2 x 911's in 90's). If your on a ride > in > > a > > classic car almost all other clubs will acknowledge you except the > Porsche > > club. I asked my brother-in-law about this, he has a '06 - 911 cab and > his > > reply was it's because Porsche are superior to every car in every way, > > performance, handling, build quality, pride of ownership, life style > > experience........(can you believe it!) So I asked about the performance, > I > > have a 1993 Corvette ZR1 (405HP, 0-100 10.6secs) and I asked him if he > > wanted > > a drag race? His reply" its not always about the numbers! > > By the way Ron, the ZR1 has a Lotus motor can I bring it on a NOBBC > ride? > > :)) > > Regarding the Concours I thought it was excellent and well worth the > money, > > I > > enjoy the diversity and the quality of the cars, and I'm glad we have > such > > a > > outstanding event so close. I will be there again this year. > > > > Richard Brown > > > > 1968 Jaguar E-Type Coupe-Pale Primrose > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > On > > Behalf Of Tom Reier > > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:20 PM > > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance > May > > 16th 2010] > > > > My attitude towards that Marin show is (like last year) it's too damn > > expensive, BUT (this year) at least I'd get to hang around a bunch of > > Porsche > > owners! I used to LIKE vintage Porsches, but their owners are soooooooooo > > (censored). > > THAT show, in my mind, is the worst of all worlds. > > I'd rather PUSH a Grinnall Scorpion than DRIVE a Porsche. And I'd take > > solitary over talking to their prig owners. > > Tom > > > > > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:34:49 -0800 > > > From: nobbc at sonic.net > > > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance > > > May > > 16th 2010] > > > > > > Your car is as good or better than most MGA's I've seen at shows > > > including the 100 pointer I was parked next to at one show. If you > > > don't get in, the show is rigged and we should all boycott it ;-0 > > > > > > Ron > > > 58 MGA > > > > > > andy preston wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Ron, I've sent in an application, with the required photo and > > > > hefty > > entry > > > > fee for my MGA Coupe. I won't know if it has been accepted until > > later. > > I > > > > expect it will depend on how many "trailer queens" apply. > > > > > > > > Andy with 2000 miles already on the car and going strong. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From mvg1 at verizon.net Tue Jan 26 19:33:05 2010 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:33:05 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] References: <40630.72777.qm@smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4B5E54C9.3090001@sonic.net> <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294C894C683AD@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com> <320ff8001001261600j216e16cfocca7a819ec64bbf8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: OK, So I gotta come back on this one. I have to insist that in the british realm, Triumph rules the roost, (LOL ha ha). But in a very real sense, to pick a sports car that would be truly intoxicating to own and drive, or evenb just look at, it would be hard to beat the 60's Ferrari 12 Cylinder cars, astounding beauty to put any Porsche to shame, muscle, speed, handling , and power. When you climb in to one, fire it up and just feel the ower in the steering wheel, and hit the road at 160 MPH, feel the ease at which it moves, is a feeling you just don't forget. Even those that don't like cars or going fast won't forget a ride in one. I wish I could post a picture of my dad's 68 250 Berlinetta SWB Coupe. A true beauty that I know all of you would appreciate, and believe me, I will NEVER forget driving that monster. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Tatarian" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] > Dude! > Oh, sorry. > Norm! > Well said. Except for the Jaguar bit. Lotuses rule, for cryin' out loud. > Except for the broken ones. > Cheers, > Greg > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Norman S. Weinfeld < > norman.weinfeld at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Okay, now I have to chime in again. While Porches aren't my fantasy >> machines, this business about "all" these and "all" those is just >> ludicrous. >> There are a ton of Porches on the Melee driven by wonderful if lunatic >> people. Like everything else, there are pompous bozos and salts of the >> earth >> behind every type of wheel there is. Same goes for skin color, ethnicity, >> gender, etc., etc. Why, there are even decent and intelligent Texans for >> crying out loud. So now *I* cry, Lighten up already, and stop >> stereotyping. >> Of course, Jaguars DO rule... No wait, I didn't say that. I'm MUCH to old >> for such syntax... >> >> Norm Weinfeld >> >> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Richard Brown >> wrote: >> >> > I totally agree with Tom about Porsche's, I love the cars, don't like >> the >> > owners (and I was one of them, had 2 x 911's in 90's). If your on a >> > ride >> in >> > a >> > classic car almost all other clubs will acknowledge you except the >> Porsche >> > club. I asked my brother-in-law about this, he has a '06 - 911 cab and >> his >> > reply was it's because Porsche are superior to every car in every way, >> > performance, handling, build quality, pride of ownership, life style >> > experience........(can you believe it!) So I asked about the >> > performance, >> I >> > have a 1993 Corvette ZR1 (405HP, 0-100 10.6secs) and I asked him if he >> > wanted >> > a drag race? His reply" its not always about the numbers! >> > By the way Ron, the ZR1 has a Lotus motor can I bring it on a NOBBC >> ride? >> > :)) >> > Regarding the Concours I thought it was excellent and well worth the >> money, >> > I >> > enjoy the diversity and the quality of the cars, and I'm glad we have >> such >> > a >> > outstanding event so close. I will be there again this year. >> > >> > Richard Brown >> > >> > 1968 Jaguar E-Type Coupe-Pale Primrose >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >> > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >> > On >> > Behalf Of Tom Reier >> > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:20 PM >> > To: nobbc at autox.team.net >> > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance >> May >> > 16th 2010] >> > >> > My attitude towards that Marin show is (like last year) it's too damn >> > expensive, BUT (this year) at least I'd get to hang around a bunch of >> > Porsche >> > owners! I used to LIKE vintage Porsches, but their owners are >> > soooooooooo >> > (censored). >> > THAT show, in my mind, is the worst of all worlds. >> > I'd rather PUSH a Grinnall Scorpion than DRIVE a Porsche. And I'd >> > take >> > solitary over talking to their prig owners. >> > Tom >> > >> > > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:34:49 -0800 >> > > From: nobbc at sonic.net >> > > To: nobbc at autox.team.net >> > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours >> > > d'Elegance >> > > May >> > 16th 2010] >> > > >> > > Your car is as good or better than most MGA's I've seen at shows >> > > including the 100 pointer I was parked next to at one show. If you >> > > don't get in, the show is rigged and we should all boycott it ;-0 >> > > >> > > Ron >> > > 58 MGA >> > > >> > > andy preston wrote: >> > > >> > > > Hi Ron, I've sent in an application, with the required photo and >> > > > hefty >> > entry >> > > > fee for my MGA Coupe. I won't know if it has been accepted until >> > later. >> > I >> > > > expect it will depend on how many "trailer queens" apply. >> > > > >> > > > Andy with 2000 miles already on the car and going strong. >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Nobbc mailing list >> > > Nobbc at autox.team.net >> > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. >> > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Nobbc mailing list >> > Nobbc at autox.team.net >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Nobbc mailing list >> > Nobbc at autox.team.net >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From mowog at sonic.net Tue Jan 26 19:49:57 2010 From: mowog at sonic.net (Rod Williams) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:49:57 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] In-Reply-To: <8D41BC74952C0649A6F5151B9D027CBC5750F6B64C@svr-exch-01> References: <40630.72777.qm@smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, <4B5E54C9.3090001@sonic.net> <4B5F59E3.5050006@gmail.com> <8D41BC74952C0649A6F5151B9D027CBC5750F6B64C@svr-exch-01> Message-ID: <5F4D8816-A19C-4DF0-96EB-9D1B74238181@sonic.net> On Jan 26, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Gary Phillips wrote: > A couple things surprise me, like "it's too expensive". I > think last year's gate was something like $15; surely that's not too much. Well, Gary, If I go with a spouse that's $30. Pick up something to eat or drink and I've spent $50. It's one thing to do parts of Monterey and pay 30 to 50 bucks for the pleasure, it's another to pay that for a new show that really doesn't have much of a record yet. My opinion is that a higher gate pre-selects the audience in a way that results in a show that, for me, isn't as much fun. I really get a kick of seeing casual visitors get excited about the car hobby unexpectedly and it makes for great conversation on the lawn. I'll spend the dosh for Pebble because it is a known, ten/tenths event. The Marin show doesn't have the track record yet to warrant that for me. But, for sure, that's me. Your mileage may vary. -- Rod Williams Petaluma, California From splath at comcast.net Tue Jan 26 20:58:20 2010 From: splath at comcast.net (Steve Plath) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:58:20 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] References: <4B5E3B69.5070102@sonic.net> Message-ID: <1FFDD9BAE27E4A459F7238B2D8ACF531@dell8300> Not sure why this event is causing so much contention. I entered my Daimler last year (which is a nice driver and definitely not a trailer queen) and won second in class. My only complaint was it was too hot. I thought they had a great mixture of cars and everyone was friendly and eager to talk cars. For a first time out it was a great event. If you don't want to pay the entry fee (and if Hospice isn't on your list of charities) then volunteer. I did this year and I can't wait. Steve Plath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" To: Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010] >I know some of you went last year and might be interested in this. Seems a >bit pricey for an auto show so maybe a Marinite might be willing to lead a >ride for those who don't want to enter the show to view the show (Hint) > > Ron > 58 MGA > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: 2nd annual Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 16th 2010 > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:10:43 -0800 > From: Erma Murphy > Reply-To: marinpublicity at gmail.com > To: North Bay British Car Club > > > > > > Hello Auto lovers! Please announce to your club members, friends and > in your auto related publications: > > Call for Entrants to the Second Annual > Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance > May 16th, 2010 - Marin Civic Center San Rafael, CA > Concours Website > SAN RAFAEL, CA -- Celebrate the art and history of the automobile! > Having set > the precedent as a world-class show and successful fundraiser for > Hospice By The Bay, > the Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance returns to the Marin County > Fairgrounds for its > second year on May 16th from 9:00 to 4:00. The event will showcase 200 > exotic and rare > vehicles on the lawn and 16 beautiful classic wooden boats in the > lagoon. The featured > marque for 2010 is Porsche. > > You are invited to submit your automobile for consideration as an entrant. > Applications are available beginning January 1st 2010. > Preference will be given to cars that did not participate last year. > Entry fee is $60 if submitted before March 15th and $85 there after. > Entry fee will be returned for any vehicle not selected. The fee > includes admission for two > adults, gift program and two continental breakfasts. > For full information about the classes in this year's event please > visit: Concours Website > > Cars will be judged on interior, exterior, engine and chassis based on > authenticity, general > appearance, care and preparation. Any entrant may elect to have a car > judged or entered as > exhibit only. Cars being judged will have field priority. Where > possible, single marque classes > will be judged by individual marque judges using their own rules and > guidelines. > All First in Class winners will be eligible to compete for Best of Show > - Concours d'Elegance > or Best of Show - Concours de Sport. Cars that won their class in 2009 > are not eligible to be > judged this year and will be displayed adjacent to the Concours Field. > > In addition to the concours proper, the event will host several special > exhibits including vintage > commercial vehicles from the Bay Area and historic Hot Rods and "Kustom > Kars." There will also > be exhibitors of exceptional automotive products and services plus live > music, food, wine tasting > and micro brew sampling as well as car related art. > > The designated charity for this event is Hospice By The Bay, a > non-profit, end-of-life healthcare > provider that has been comforting and caring for seriously ill patients > and their families since 1975. > > For more information or for a registrant application call (415) 479-7727 > or visit > Concours Website > > I am no longer interested > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From randysmga at gmail.com Wed Jan 27 09:37:29 2010 From: randysmga at gmail.com (Randy Myers) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:37:29 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] MGA needs body work In-Reply-To: <007101ca9ed4$1b0be460$5123ad20$@com> References: <68DC636F-3211-49A2-A981-7C9319E8607A@mac.com> <007101ca9ed4$1b0be460$5123ad20$@com> Message-ID: <9096c7991001270837i5bcc1114tc8c37d3d9c15c8f2@mail.gmail.com> Mark, I can second John's recommendation for Ron Wheeler. He did my roasdter about five years ago and did a great job. You're welcome to come take a look if you have any interest. Randy Myers Santa Rosa Randysmga at gmail.com 546-0104 days On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:08 PM, John Kenner wrote: > THE GUY IS RON WHEELER IN FORESTVILLE, NEAR SEBASTOPOL. > > 707 887 7030 > > HE RESTORED THE BODY ON MY '68 TR250 AND COMES HIGHLY RECOMMENDED > > JOHN KENNER > > 510 231 6803 P > 415 806 2457 C > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Mark Darley > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:35 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: [Nobbc] MGA needs body work > > My 58 MGA had a door creased and knocked out of line when it was > shipped over from Maui. (Probably some gorilla used it to push the > car when he couldn't work out how to start it). The shipping company > is going to pay for repairing it (and some other dings I hope). > > Can anyone recommend a really good shop in Marin? > > Liam O'Flaherty said he thought there was a guy in Santa Rosa? who > worked purely on MGAs and was a wizard. Anyone know who this is, or > have another recommendation? > > Thanks > Mark > 58 Tyrolite Green MGA. > > Mark Darley > markdarley at mac.com > Mobile Phone 415 310 5252 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > -- Randy From napaguy at comcast.net Wed Jan 27 09:51:55 2010 From: napaguy at comcast.net (Mel Cohen) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:51:55 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Old American Gas Stations In-Reply-To: <2C37D6B94E3D4A688EDCBF6D8D84FE55@LarryAPC> References: <2C37D6B94E3D4A688EDCBF6D8D84FE55@LarryAPC> Message-ID: <0C5FFEFAF1F845CFBF7DABF199AC7A79@melc90a4374d70> The memories of those olden days return. 15-cents for a gallon of gas? 5f40c334.gif Old American Gas Stations from all around the country Some are abandoned, some are restored and many are still in use. 5f40c344.jpg In the next picture, notice the kid jumping on the bell hose. YOU ever done that? 5f40c354.jpg 5f40c363.jpg 565f40c373.jpg 5f40c383.jpg. 5f40c392.jpg 5f40c3a2.jpg 5f40c3b1.jpg 5f40c3c1.jpg 5f40c3d1.jpg 5f40c3e0.jpg 5f40c3f0.jpg 5f40c400.jpg 5f40c40f.jpg Notice the prices on the next one. Yes that's only $ .34 for Hi test And $ .28 for regular. Oh, don't forget the 9/10% of a penny. 5f40c41f.jpg 5f40c42e.jpg 5f40c43e.jpg 5f40c44e.jpg There's one of the next ones still standing (not in use) On Sprague St . In Winston - Salem , N.C. A Shell station in case you can't figure that out. 5f40c45d.jpg 5f40c46d.jpg 5f40c47d.jpg 5f40c48c.jpg 5f40c49c.jpg Yeah . . . I remember! And with a fill-up you got. The gas pumped for you, Your windshield cleaned, Oil & fluids checked, Tires checked, A free map, if you wanted it. And greeted in ENGLISH !!! Yeah! I remember!!! 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There, it is illegal to pump your own gas, as you are taking WORK from an employee. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mel Cohen" To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 8:51 AM Subject: [Nobbc] Old American Gas Stations > The memories of those olden days return. 15-cents for a gallon of gas? > > > > > > > > > > 5f40c334.gif > > > > Old American Gas Stations from all around the country > > > > Some are abandoned, some are restored and many are still in use. > > > > > > 5f40c344.jpg > > In the next picture, notice the kid jumping on the bell hose. > > > > YOU ever done that? > > 5f40c354.jpg > > 5f40c363.jpg > > 565f40c373.jpg > > 5f40c383.jpg. > > > > 5f40c392.jpg > > > > 5f40c3a2.jpg > > 5f40c3b1.jpg > > 5f40c3c1.jpg > > 5f40c3d1.jpg > > 5f40c3e0.jpg > > 5f40c3f0.jpg > > > > 5f40c400.jpg > > 5f40c40f.jpg > > Notice the prices on the next one. > > > > Yes that's only $ .34 for Hi test > > > > And $ .28 for regular. > > > > Oh, don't forget the 9/10% of a penny. > > 5f40c41f.jpg > > 5f40c42e.jpg > > 5f40c43e.jpg > > 5f40c44e.jpg > > > > There's one of the next ones still standing (not in use) > > > > On Sprague St . In Winston - Salem , N.C. > > > > A Shell station in case you can't figure that out. > > 5f40c45d.jpg > > 5f40c46d.jpg > > 5f40c47d.jpg > > 5f40c48c.jpg > > 5f40c49c.jpg > > > > Yeah . . . I remember! > > > > And with a fill-up you got. > > > > The gas pumped for you, > > > > Your windshield cleaned, > > > > Oil & fluids checked, > > > > Tires checked, > > > > A free map, if you wanted it. > > > > And greeted in ENGLISH !!! > > > > Yeah! I remember!!! > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > image001.gif] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image002.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image003.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image004.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image005.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image006.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image007.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image008.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image009.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image010.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image011.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image012.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image013.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image014.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image015.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image016.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image017.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image018.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image019.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image020.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image021.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image022.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image023.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image024.jpg] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com Wed Jan 27 10:58:38 2010 From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com (sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:58:38 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Marin Concours D'Elegance Message-ID: Wow, so much to say about a car show, and this will be my last comments on this subject. I know we are all suffering through a tough economy and all that, but were talking about $15 or so to attend, and $60 to show a car. That's pretty reasonable, certainly compared to going to Pebble Beach. I find it hard to believe that any real car buff, especially in Marin or Sonoma counties, that can afford to own or maintain a vintage car would really complain about $15. Sorry, but that's me. $15 to have close access to not only the very existance of our favorite (?) hobby, but also a wide variety and number of really beautiful cars of different type and era, and not have to go to Pebble Beach, and spend MORE money to see the same cars? Come on, what's the complaint. Last year's event was sponsored in part by a Doctor from San Rafael that has a private collection that is very significant, and some of his cars will again be displayed in this event. Whether you want to look at Jags, MGs, Porches, or Dusenbergs, Marmons, and Pierce Arrows, these cars are rolling artwork, and well worth the price of FIFTEEN BUCKS? Come on, lets get real. See you there. Michael 64 TR4 From nobbc at sonic.net Wed Jan 27 11:53:11 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:53:11 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Old American Gas Stations In-Reply-To: References: <2C37D6B94E3D4A688EDCBF6D8D84FE55@LarryAPC> <0C5FFEFAF1F845CFBF7DABF199AC7A79@melc90a4374d70> Message-ID: <4B608B97.4060300@sonic.net> Mel, the list server strips off attachments. Try posting to a photo site, then sending us the link. It's also illegal to pump your own gas in New Jersey, and contrary to logic, gas is actually cheaper than in surrounding states where you DO pump your own. Ron 58 MGA Mike Gianandrea wrote: > Hey Mel, > > You still get most that treatment, except the price, if you get gas in > Oregon. There, it is illegal to pump your own gas, as you are taking > WORK from an employee. > > Michael > 64 TR4 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mel Cohen" > To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 8:51 AM > Subject: [Nobbc] Old American Gas Stations > > >> The memories of those olden days return. 15-cents for a gallon of gas? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 5f40c334.gif >> >> >> >> Old American Gas Stations from all around the country >> >> >> >> Some are abandoned, some are restored and many are still in use. >> >> >> >> >> >> 5f40c344.jpg >> >> In the next picture, notice the kid jumping on the bell hose. >> >> >> >> YOU ever done that? >> >> 5f40c354.jpg >> >> 5f40c363.jpg >> >> 565f40c373.jpg >> >> 5f40c383.jpg. >> >> >> >> 5f40c392.jpg >> >> >> >> 5f40c3a2.jpg >> >> 5f40c3b1.jpg >> >> 5f40c3c1.jpg >> >> 5f40c3d1.jpg >> >> 5f40c3e0.jpg >> >> 5f40c3f0.jpg >> >> >> >> 5f40c400.jpg >> >> 5f40c40f.jpg >> >> Notice the prices on the next one. >> >> >> >> Yes that's only $ .34 for Hi test >> >> >> >> And $ .28 for regular. >> >> >> >> Oh, don't forget the 9/10% of a penny. >> >> 5f40c41f.jpg >> >> 5f40c42e.jpg >> >> 5f40c43e.jpg >> >> 5f40c44e.jpg >> >> >> >> There's one of the next ones still standing (not in use) >> >> >> >> On Sprague St . In Winston - Salem , N.C. >> >> >> >> A Shell station in case you can't figure that out. >> >> 5f40c45d.jpg >> >> 5f40c46d.jpg >> >> 5f40c47d.jpg >> >> 5f40c48c.jpg >> >> 5f40c49c.jpg >> >> >> >> Yeah . . . I remember! >> >> >> >> And with a fill-up you got. >> >> >> >> The gas pumped for you, >> >> >> >> Your windshield cleaned, >> >> >> >> Oil & fluids checked, >> >> >> >> Tires checked, >> >> >> >> A free map, if you wanted it. >> >> >> >> And greeted in ENGLISH !!! >> >> >> >> Yeah! I remember!!! >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name >> of image001.gif] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image002.jpg] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image003.jpg] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image004.jpg] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image005.jpg] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image006.jpg] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image007.jpg] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image008.jpg] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image009.jpg] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image010.jpg] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image011.jpg] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image012.jpg] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image013.jpg] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image014.jpg] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image015.jpg] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image016.jpg] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image017.jpg] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image018.jpg] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image019.jpg] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image020.jpg] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image021.jpg] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image022.jpg] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image023.jpg] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> name of image024.jpg] >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From wbain at sonic.net Wed Jan 27 14:26:42 2010 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:26:42 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Marin Concours D'Elegance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3F446FA7-0D10-41AB-96C8-EA6FCFDE41D5@sonic.net> This was a great concours. I was a judge in it and the cars were everything from trailer queens to unrestored originals. A 20's Marmon, Model A Duesenberg, Delahaye's plus Corvette's, MG's, Durant, Jordan Playboy's. My only complaint was the heat, especially if you had to judge cars in a coat and tie.... Of course they did have beer which made up for quite a bit. The $15 entry fee isn't extravagant. Wendell 59 Morgan On Jan 27, 2010, at 9:58 AM, wrote: > Wow, so much to say about a car show, and this will be my last > comments on > this subject. I know we are all suffering through a tough economy > and all > that, but were talking about $15 or so to attend, and $60 to show a > car. > That's pretty reasonable, certainly compared to going to Pebble > Beach. I find > it hard to believe that any real car buff, especially in Marin or > Sonoma > counties, that can afford to own or maintain a vintage car would > really > complain about $15. Sorry, but that's me. $15 to have close access > to not only > the very existance of our favorite (?) hobby, but also a wide > variety and > number of really beautiful cars of different type and era, and not > have to go > to Pebble Beach, and spend MORE money to see the same cars? Come > on, what's > the complaint. Last year's event was sponsored in part by a Doctor > from San > Rafael that has a private collection that is very significant, and > some of his > cars will again be displayed in this event. Whether you want to > look at Jags, > MGs, Porches, or Dusenbergs, Marmons, and Pierce Arrows, these cars > are > rolling artwork, and well worth the price of FIFTEEN BUCKS? Come > on, lets get > real. See you there. > > Michael > 64 TR4 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at gmail.com Wed Jan 27 14:32:25 2010 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (gtwincams at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:32:25 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] Marin Concours D'Elegance In-Reply-To: <3F446FA7-0D10-41AB-96C8-EA6FCFDE41D5@sonic.net> References: <3F446FA7-0D10-41AB-96C8-EA6FCFDE41D5@sonic.net> Message-ID: I'll pay that just to see Wendell in a coat and tie!! ;-) Greg Tatarian Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: wendell bain Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:26:42 To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Marin Concours D'Elegance This was a great concours. I was a judge in it and the cars were everything from trailer queens to unrestored originals. A 20's Marmon, Model A Duesenberg, Delahaye's plus Corvette's, MG's, Durant, Jordan Playboy's. My only complaint was the heat, especially if you had to judge cars in a coat and tie.... Of course they did have beer which made up for quite a bit. The $15 entry fee isn't extravagant. Wendell 59 Morgan On Jan 27, 2010, at 9:58 AM, wrote: > Wow, so much to say about a car show, and this will be my last > comments on > this subject. I know we are all suffering through a tough economy > and all > that, but were talking about $15 or so to attend, and $60 to show a > car. > That's pretty reasonable, certainly compared to going to Pebble > Beach. I find > it hard to believe that any real car buff, especially in Marin or > Sonoma > counties, that can afford to own or maintain a vintage car would > really > complain about $15. Sorry, but that's me. $15 to have close access > to not only > the very existance of our favorite (?) hobby, but also a wide > variety and > number of really beautiful cars of different type and era, and not > have to go > to Pebble Beach, and spend MORE money to see the same cars? Come > on, what's > the complaint. Last year's event was sponsored in part by a Doctor > from San > Rafael that has a private collection that is very significant, and > some of his > cars will again be displayed in this event. Whether you want to > look at Jags, > MGs, Porches, or Dusenbergs, Marmons, and Pierce Arrows, these cars > are > rolling artwork, and well worth the price of FIFTEEN BUCKS? Come > on, lets get > real. See you there. > > Michael > 64 TR4 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From wbain at sonic.net Wed Jan 27 14:41:22 2010 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:41:22 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Marin Concours D'Elegance In-Reply-To: <20100127213251.B32AD18765A@autox.team.net> References: <3F446FA7-0D10-41AB-96C8-EA6FCFDE41D5@sonic.net> <20100127213251.B32AD18765A@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <3D3690C4-E5F1-48EB-B3F8-905F11933635@sonic.net> Greg: Wendell in a coat and tie. That might be an amusing sight. Wheee!!!! Cheers, Wendell On Jan 27, 2010, at 1:32 PM, gtwincams at gmail.com wrote: > I'll pay that just to see Wendell in a coat and tie!! > ;-) > Greg Tatarian > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: wendell bain > Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:26:42 > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Marin Concours D'Elegance > > This was a great concours. I was a judge in it and the cars were > everything from > trailer queens to unrestored originals. A 20's Marmon, Model A > Duesenberg, > Delahaye's plus Corvette's, MG's, Durant, Jordan Playboy's. > My only complaint was the heat, especially if you had to judge cars > in a > coat and tie.... Of course they did have beer which made up for quite > a bit. > The $15 entry fee isn't extravagant. > > Wendell > 59 Morgan > > > On Jan 27, 2010, at 9:58 AM, wrote: > >> Wow, so much to say about a car show, and this will be my last >> comments on >> this subject. I know we are all suffering through a tough economy >> and all >> that, but were talking about $15 or so to attend, and $60 to show a >> car. >> That's pretty reasonable, certainly compared to going to Pebble >> Beach. I find >> it hard to believe that any real car buff, especially in Marin or >> Sonoma >> counties, that can afford to own or maintain a vintage car would >> really >> complain about $15. Sorry, but that's me. $15 to have close access >> to not only >> the very existance of our favorite (?) hobby, but also a wide >> variety and >> number of really beautiful cars of different type and era, and not >> have to go >> to Pebble Beach, and spend MORE money to see the same cars? Come >> on, what's >> the complaint. Last year's event was sponsored in part by a Doctor >> from San >> Rafael that has a private collection that is very significant, and >> some of his >> cars will again be displayed in this event. Whether you want to >> look at Jags, >> MGs, Porches, or Dusenbergs, Marmons, and Pierce Arrows, these cars >> are >> rolling artwork, and well worth the price of FIFTEEN BUCKS? Come >> on, lets get >> real. See you there. >> >> Michael >> 64 TR4 >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Wed Jan 27 18:25:22 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:25:22 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] MGTF info needed Message-ID: <4B60E782.1040307@sonic.net> I just received a phone call from a nice lady who inherited a 55 MGTF 1500 needing info as to what it's worth. The original engine was replaced with a Volvo engine(not so uncommon, I think), paint and body are good, interior needs refreshing. It hasn't run in a while but ran when parked (heh, where have I heard THAT before). If you can help her out, her contact info follows: Irene Pohley, 542-9427, pohtoys at sonic.net. Follow up here also as I'm curious if my idea of the price is correct. Ron 58 MGA From dawson at authorspublishing.com Fri Jan 29 15:04:34 2010 From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:04:34 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Feb Ride NOBBC Message-ID: <629FF91A-3621-4629-86AE-49DE48290E34@authorspublishing.com> Last year we did a Valentine's Day ride starting at my house. I got to see something I'd dreamed of, all our cars parked in a circle around my driveway, facing each other! I'd enjoy hosting the same again this year. Feb 14 is a Sunday. We could start off with coffee and pastries on the patio again, and go from there. We could also invite friends and their significant others. I'd arrange another reception at a winery for lunch. Let me hear from you if this sounds like fun.... From nobbc at sonic.net Fri Jan 29 15:33:05 2010 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:33:05 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Feb Ride NOBBC In-Reply-To: <629FF91A-3621-4629-86AE-49DE48290E34@authorspublishing.com> References: <629FF91A-3621-4629-86AE-49DE48290E34@authorspublishing.com> Message-ID: <4B636221.9010203@sonic.net> Thanks Dawson, sounds great! Ron 58 MGA Dawson Church wrote: > Last year we did a Valentine's Day ride starting at my house. I got to see > something I'd dreamed of, all our cars parked in a circle around my driveway, > facing each other! > > I'd enjoy hosting the same again this year. Feb 14 is a Sunday. We could start > off with coffee and pastries on the patio again, and go from there. > > We could also invite friends and their significant others. I'd arrange another > reception at a winery for lunch. > > Let me hear from you if this sounds like fun.... > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From dawson at authorspublishing.com Sat Jan 30 12:27:41 2010 From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 11:27:41 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Feb Ride NOBBC In-Reply-To: <4B636221.9010203@sonic.net> References: <629FF91A-3621-4629-86AE-49DE48290E34@authorspublishing.com> <4B636221.9010203@sonic.net> Message-ID: <71DF205C-B3EA-4F95-BA4B-2424E3CFF5BF@authorspublishing.com> OK, I got cheers from some of our mob, and no jeers, so let's call it a date. The SECOND ANNUAL NOBBC Valentine's Day Ride! Mark the date, invite new people, I'll make some plans and send out another email. 1490 Mark West Springs Rd Santa Rosa, CA 95404 10 am Sunday Feb 14 2010 Dawson On Jan 29, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > Thanks Dawson, sounds great! > > Ron > 58 MGA > > Dawson Church wrote: >> Last year we did a Valentine's Day ride starting at my house. I got to see >> something I'd dreamed of, all our cars parked in a circle around my driveway, >> facing each other! >> I'd enjoy hosting the same again this year. Feb 14 is a Sunday. We could start >> off with coffee and pastries on the patio again, and go from there. >> We could also invite friends and their significant others. I'd arrange another >> reception at a winery for lunch. >> Let me hear from you if this sounds like fun.... >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From andypreston at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 30 18:58:21 2010 From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:58:21 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Feb Ride NOBBC In-Reply-To: <71DF205C-B3EA-4F95-BA4B-2424E3CFF5BF@authorspublishing.com> Message-ID: <874982.5015.qm@smtp107.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Dawson, Marla and I will be there and look forward to it, rain or shine. Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dawson Church Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:28 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Feb Ride NOBBC OK, I got cheers from some of our mob, and no jeers, so let's call it a date. The SECOND ANNUAL NOBBC Valentine's Day Ride! Mark the date, invite new people, I'll make some plans and send out another email. 1490 Mark West Springs Rd Santa Rosa, CA 95404 10 am Sunday Feb 14 2010 Dawson On Jan 29, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > Thanks Dawson, sounds great! > > Ron > 58 MGA > > Dawson Church wrote: >> Last year we did a Valentine's Day ride starting at my house. I got to see >> something I'd dreamed of, all our cars parked in a circle around my driveway, >> facing each other! >> I'd enjoy hosting the same again this year. Feb 14 is a Sunday. We could start >> off with coffee and pastries on the patio again, and go from there. >> We could also invite friends and their significant others. I'd arrange another >> reception at a winery for lunch. >> Let me hear from you if this sounds like fun.... >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From home at drummondlaw.com Sun Jan 31 17:10:53 2010 From: home at drummondlaw.com (Dan) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:10:53 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Marin Concours D'Elegance In-Reply-To: <3D3690C4-E5F1-48EB-B3F8-905F11933635@sonic.net> References: <3F446FA7-0D10-41AB-96C8-EA6FCFDE41D5@sonic.net><20100127213251.B32AD18765A@autox.team.net> <3D3690C4-E5F1-48EB-B3F8-905F11933635@sonic.net> Message-ID: Wow, go out of town for a week and see what I missed. All this angst over a car show, whether it's too expensive or not, whether Porsche drivers are worthy or not, etc. Seriously folks, it's just a car show. If you want to attend, please do so. If you don't, that's OK, too. Either way, appreciate the fact that you have the option. Isn't better to have a show available that you may choose to attend or not rather than having no show at all? Thank the organizers for their efforts and move on. And why all the dispersions aimed at the Porsche owners? Just because my neighbor drives a German car while I prefer British iron, or roots for the Raiders and I the 49ers, or prefers cats over dogs, does not make him a bad person or me a good one. That quality has nothing to do with the material choices we make. Dan -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of wendell bain Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:41 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Marin Concours D'Elegance Greg: Wendell in a coat and tie. That might be an amusing sight. Wheee!!!! Cheers, Wendell On Jan 27, 2010, at 1:32 PM, gtwincams at gmail.com wrote: > I'll pay that just to see Wendell in a coat and tie!! > ;-) > Greg Tatarian > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: wendell bain > Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:26:42 > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Marin Concours D'Elegance > > This was a great concours. I was a judge in it and the cars were > everything from > trailer queens to unrestored originals. A 20's Marmon, Model A > Duesenberg, > Delahaye's plus Corvette's, MG's, Durant, Jordan Playboy's. > My only complaint was the heat, especially if you had to judge cars > in a > coat and tie.... Of course they did have beer which made up for quite > a bit. > The $15 entry fee isn't extravagant. > > Wendell > 59 Morgan > > > On Jan 27, 2010, at 9:58 AM, wrote: > >> Wow, so much to say about a car show, and this will be my last >> comments on >> this subject. I know we are all suffering through a tough economy >> and all >> that, but were talking about $15 or so to attend, and $60 to show a >> car. >> That's pretty reasonable, certainly compared to going to Pebble >> Beach. I find >> it hard to believe that any real car buff, especially in Marin or >> Sonoma >> counties, that can afford to own or maintain a vintage car would >> really >> complain about $15. Sorry, but that's me. $15 to have close access >> to not only >> the very existance of our favorite (?) hobby, but also a wide >> variety and >> number of really beautiful cars of different type and era, and not >> have to go >> to Pebble Beach, and spend MORE money to see the same cars? Come >> on, what's >> the complaint. Last year's event was sponsored in part by a Doctor >> from San >> Rafael that has a private collection that is very significant, and >> some of his >> cars will again be displayed in this event. Whether you want to >> look at Jags, >> MGs, Porches, or Dusenbergs, Marmons, and Pierce Arrows, these cars >> are >> rolling artwork, and well worth the price of FIFTEEN BUCKS? Come >> on, lets get >> real. See you there. >> >> Michael >> 64 TR4 >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jkenner at tamcab.com Sun Jan 31 21:05:41 2010 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:05:41 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Marin Concours D'Elegance In-Reply-To: References: <3F446FA7-0D10-41AB-96C8-EA6FCFDE41D5@sonic.net><20100127213251.B32AD18765A@autox.team.net> <3D3690C4-E5F1-48EB-B3F8-905F11933635@sonic.net> Message-ID: <000e01caa2f3$d2b5e890$7821b9b0$@com> It's not true. RAIDERS FANS ARE BAD PEOPLE JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dan Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:11 PM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Marin Concours D'Elegance Wow, go out of town for a week and see what I missed. All this angst over a car show, whether it's too expensive or not, whether Porsche drivers are worthy or not, etc. Seriously folks, it's just a car show. If you want to attend, please do so. If you don't, that's OK, too. Either way, appreciate the fact that you have the option. Isn't better to have a show available that you may choose to attend or not rather than having no show at all? Thank the organizers for their efforts and move on. And why all the dispersions aimed at the Porsche owners? Just because my neighbor drives a German car while I prefer British iron, or roots for the Raiders and I the 49ers, or prefers cats over dogs, does not make him a bad person or me a good one. That quality has nothing to do with the material choices we make. Dan -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of wendell bain Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:41 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Marin Concours D'Elegance Greg: Wendell in a coat and tie. That might be an amusing sight. Wheee!!!! Cheers, Wendell On Jan 27, 2010, at 1:32 PM, gtwincams at gmail.com wrote: > I'll pay that just to see Wendell in a coat and tie!! > ;-) > Greg Tatarian > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: wendell bain > Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:26:42 > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Marin Concours D'Elegance > > This was a great concours. I was a judge in it and the cars were > everything from > trailer queens to unrestored originals. A 20's Marmon, Model A > Duesenberg, > Delahaye's plus Corvette's, MG's, Durant, Jordan Playboy's. > My only complaint was the heat, especially if you had to judge cars > in a > coat and tie.... Of course they did have beer which made up for quite > a bit. > The $15 entry fee isn't extravagant. > > Wendell > 59 Morgan > > > On Jan 27, 2010, at 9:58 AM, wrote: > >> Wow, so much to say about a car show, and this will be my last >> comments on >> this subject. I know we are all suffering through a tough economy >> and all >> that, but were talking about $15 or so to attend, and $60 to show a >> car. >> That's pretty reasonable, certainly compared to going to Pebble >> Beach. I find >> it hard to believe that any real car buff, especially in Marin or >> Sonoma >> counties, that can afford to own or maintain a vintage car would >> really >> complain about $15. Sorry, but that's me. $15 to have close access >> to not only >> the very existance of our favorite (?) hobby, but also a wide >> variety and >> number of really beautiful cars of different type and era, and not >> have to go >> to Pebble Beach, and spend MORE money to see the same cars? Come >> on, what's >> the complaint. Last year's event was sponsored in part by a Doctor >> from San >> Rafael that has a private collection that is very significant, and >> some of his >> cars will again be displayed in this event. Whether you want to >> look at Jags, >> MGs, Porches, or Dusenbergs, Marmons, and Pierce Arrows, these cars >> are >> rolling artwork, and well worth the price of FIFTEEN BUCKS? Come >> on, lets get >> real. See you there. >> >> Michael >> 64 TR4 >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc