From home at drummondlaw.com  Mon Feb  1 21:34:39 2010
From: home at drummondlaw.com (Dan)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 20:34:39 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Marin Concours D'Elegance
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Guess I overstated the case there.  My bad.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of John Kenner
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:06 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Marin Concours D'Elegance

It's not true.
RAIDERS FANS ARE BAD PEOPLE

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806 2457 C
510 231 6805 F





-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:11 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Marin Concours D'Elegance

Wow, go out of town for a week and see what I missed.  All this angst over a
car show, whether it's too expensive or not, whether Porsche drivers are
worthy or not, etc.  Seriously folks, it's just a car show.  If you want to
attend, please do so.  If you don't, that's OK, too.  Either way, appreciate
the fact that you have the option.  Isn't better to have a show available
that you may choose to attend or not rather than having no show at all?
Thank the organizers for their efforts and move on.

And why all the dispersions aimed at the Porsche owners?  Just because my
neighbor drives a German car while I prefer British iron, or roots for the
Raiders and I the 49ers, or prefers cats over dogs, does not make him a bad
person or me a good one.  That quality has nothing to do with the material
choices we make.   

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of wendell bain
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:41 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Marin Concours D'Elegance

Greg:
Wendell in a coat and tie. That might be an amusing sight.
Wheee!!!!

Cheers,

Wendell


On Jan 27, 2010, at 1:32 PM, gtwincams at gmail.com wrote:

> I'll pay that just to see Wendell in a coat and tie!!
> ;-)
> Greg Tatarian
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wendell bain <wbain at sonic.net>
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:26:42
> To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Marin Concours D'Elegance
>
> This was a great concours. I was a judge in it and the cars were
> everything from
> trailer queens to unrestored originals. A 20's Marmon, Model A
> Duesenberg,
> Delahaye's plus Corvette's, MG's, Durant, Jordan Playboy's.
> My only complaint was the heat, especially if you had to judge cars  
> in a
> coat and tie.... Of course they did have beer which made up for quite
> a bit.
> The $15 entry fee isn't extravagant.
>
> Wendell
> 59 Morgan
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2010, at 9:58 AM, <sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com> wrote:
>
>> Wow, so much to say about a car show, and this will be my last
>> comments on
>> this subject. I know we are all suffering through a tough economy
>> and all
>> that, but were talking about $15 or so to attend, and $60 to show a
>> car.
>> That's pretty reasonable, certainly compared to going to Pebble
>> Beach. I find
>> it hard to believe that any real car buff, especially in Marin or
>> Sonoma
>> counties, that can afford to own or maintain a vintage car would
>> really
>> complain about $15. Sorry, but that's me. $15 to have close access
>> to not only
>> the very existance of our favorite (?) hobby, but also a wide
>> variety and
>> number of really beautiful cars of different type and era, and not
>> have to go
>> to Pebble Beach, and spend MORE money to see the same cars? Come
>> on, what's
>> the complaint. Last year's event was sponsored in part by a Doctor
>> from San
>> Rafael that has a private collection that is very significant, and
>> some of his
>> cars will again be displayed in this event. Whether you want to
>> look at Jags,
>> MGs, Porches, or Dusenbergs, Marmons, and Pierce Arrows, these cars
>> are
>> rolling artwork, and well worth the price of FIFTEEN BUCKS? Come
>> on, lets get
>> real. See you there.
>>
>> Michael
>> 64 TR4
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Wed Feb  3 15:38:41 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:38:41 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: North Bay British Car Club]
Message-ID: <4B69FAF1.7000809@sonic.net>

I just received this and thought there might be some interest. I also 
suggested that Jordon join us on one of our rides and sign up on the 
list server.

Ron
58 MGA

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	North Bay British Car Club
Date: 	Wed, 3 Feb 2010 20:19:12 +0000
From: 	Jordan Tabak <tabakphoto at hotmail.com>
To: 	<nobbc at sonic.net>



     Hello Ron,

     I heard about the North Bay British Car Club through some friends of
     mine who are avid collectors both in the Bay Area as well in
     Southern California. My name is Jordan Tabak and I am an aspiring
     professional photographer.



     Ever since I was a kid, I have been infatuated with the automobile
     and all that it has to offer in regards to both pure enjoyment of
     driving the machine as well as the artistic beauty of the design. I
     have been a photographer for the past 7 years and have been
     photographing cars on the side for my own personal pleasure, while
     my main source of income has been wedding photography, family
     portraits, and child photography. I have been on numerous car tours,
     as well as concourses all over the West Coast.



     I have been working on building my car portfolio in order to one day
     photograph for an editorial publisher in the automobile genre. The
     reason that I am writing you, is to ask if you or any of
     your contacts who also collect fine automobiles would like to have
     their car professionally photographed. I am doing this absolutely
     free of charge, as it is for my professional portfolio. In exchange,
     I will give the owner(s) of the car(s) a few large-format,
     high-quality, professional prints from the shoot.



     If you or anyone you know  is interested, please sent me an e-mail
     at this address. I look forward to hearing any interest or feedback.
     Thank you very much for your time.


     Jordan Tabak
     Brake Fade Photography
     www.brakefadephotography.com <http://www.brakefadephotography.com/>

From Cem2col at aol.com  Thu Feb  4 17:16:19 2010
From: Cem2col at aol.com (Cem2col at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 19:16:19 EST
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: North Bay British Car Club]
Message-ID: <198b0.4f593e17.389cbd53@aol.com>

Dear Jordan:
     As a long time old car collector myself, I would be most interested in 
having you photograph my Mk V Jaguar Drop Head coupe 1950 (five passenger 
convertible with a three way convertible top) and my 1949 Willys Jeepster 
(also a five passenger convertible) I also have a 1950 MK 1 Sunbeam Alpine (two 
passenger convertible, same model as in the Cary-Grant, Grace Kelly movie 
"To Catch a Thief"}     
     Also, as I am a credentialed Ordained Christian Minister in California 
since 1975, and you a wedding photographer, perhaps we may be able to join 
forces on some weddings.   Having lived in Chile for five years, I also 
speak fluent Spanish. In any case I would like to meet you as like yourself, I 
have a life long love of Classic Cars.     
     As you know of nobbc, perhaps you could attend our next meeting and 
drive on Valentine's Day or another weekend if you are not occupied. Let me 
know if another meeting time would be convenient for coffee, seeing my cars, 
etc.

Yours truly,

Rev. Charles E. Medcalf
707 824 1645

From dawson at authorspublishing.com  Fri Feb  5 15:06:34 2010
From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:06:34 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: North Bay British Car Club]
In-Reply-To: <198b0.4f593e17.389cbd53@aol.com>
References: <198b0.4f593e17.389cbd53@aol.com>
Message-ID: <124D9E29-98E7-400C-B7FE-25D627A78CE0@authorspublishing.com>

Hi Charles,

I'm hoping to see you and your wife on the Feb 14 ride!

I'm making plans and will email them to the group shortly

Dawson



On Feb 4, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Cem2col at aol.com wrote:

> Dear Jordan:
>     As a long time old car collector myself, I would be most interested in
> having you photograph my Mk V Jaguar Drop Head coupe 1950 (five passenger
> convertible with a three way convertible top) and my 1949 Willys Jeepster
> (also a five passenger convertible) I also have a 1950 MK 1 Sunbeam Alpine
(two
> passenger convertible, same model as in the Cary-Grant, Grace Kelly movie
> "To Catch a Thief"}
>     Also, as I am a credentialed Ordained Christian Minister in California
> since 1975, and you a wedding photographer, perhaps we may be able to join
> forces on some weddings.   Having lived in Chile for five years, I also
> speak fluent Spanish. In any case I would like to meet you as like yourself,
I
> have a life long love of Classic Cars.
>     As you know of nobbc, perhaps you could attend our next meeting and
> drive on Valentine's Day or another weekend if you are not occupied. Let me
> know if another meeting time would be convenient for coffee, seeing my cars,
> etc.
>
> Yours truly,
>
> Rev. Charles E. Medcalf
> 707 824 1645
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From tabakphoto at hotmail.com  Mon Feb  8 14:24:58 2010
From: tabakphoto at hotmail.com (Jordan Tabak)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:24:58 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: North Bay British Car Club]
In-Reply-To: <124D9E29-98E7-400C-B7FE-25D627A78CE0@authorspublishing.com>
References: <198b0.4f593e17.389cbd53@aol.com>,
	<124D9E29-98E7-400C-B7FE-25D627A78CE0@authorspublishing.com>
Message-ID: <BAY114-W29B8A662BB30B7548E67DEDE510@phx.gbl>

Hey there,

Unfortunately I am unable to make it this Sunday for the Feb 14th ride. I may
be available to meet in the morning before the ride begins - what time is
everyone scheduled to meet up? Thank you very much for the oppurtunity and
please continue to keep me informed. Thank you again

Jordan Tabak
www.brakefadephotography.com



> From: dawson at authorspublishing.com
> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:06:34 -0800
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> CC: tabakphoto at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: North Bay British Car Club]
>
> Hi Charles,
>
> I'm hoping to see you and your wife on the Feb 14 ride!
>
> I'm making plans and will email them to the group shortly
>
> Dawson
>
>
>
> On Feb 4, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Cem2col at aol.com wrote:
>
> > Dear Jordan:
> >     As a long time old car collector myself, I would be most interested
in
> > having you photograph my Mk V Jaguar Drop Head coupe 1950 (five passenger
> > convertible with a three way convertible top) and my 1949 Willys Jeepster
> > (also a five passenger convertible) I also have a 1950 MK 1 Sunbeam
Alpine
> (two
> > passenger convertible, same model as in the Cary-Grant, Grace Kelly movie
> > "To Catch a Thief"}
> >     Also, as I am a credentialed Ordained Christian Minister in
California
> > since 1975, and you a wedding photographer, perhaps we may be able to
join
> > forces on some weddings.   Having lived in Chile for five years, I also
> > speak fluent Spanish. In any case I would like to meet you as like
yourself,
> I
> > have a life long love of Classic Cars.
> >     As you know of nobbc, perhaps you could attend our next meeting and
> > drive on Valentine's Day or another weekend if you are not occupied. Let
me
> > know if another meeting time would be convenient for coffee, seeing my
cars,
> > etc.
> >
> > Yours truly,
> >
> > Rev. Charles E. Medcalf
> > 707 824 1645
> > _______________________________________________
> > Nobbc mailing list
> > Nobbc at autox.team.net
> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

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From dawson at authorspublishing.com  Mon Feb  8 16:56:33 2010
From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:56:33 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
Message-ID: <8FFD318C-7C4B-4FDF-BB96-1A39A1776C01@authorspublishing.com>

Hi NOBBC Friends!

We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range weather
forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.

Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in Guerneville) is
going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They make award
winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other varieties, and
the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their cellars.

We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll park in a
big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose out. My
address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The driveway is on
your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow 1490 mailbox
and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."

We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of the most
gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods redwood state
park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among the giant
redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over 300 feet
high.

Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel has a
gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your own.

Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to the club,
and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your friends to ride
along!

See you on Sunday!

Dawson

From nobbc at sonic.net  Mon Feb  8 20:03:22 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:03:22 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
In-Reply-To: <8FFD318C-7C4B-4FDF-BB96-1A39A1776C01@authorspublishing.com>
References: <8FFD318C-7C4B-4FDF-BB96-1A39A1776C01@authorspublishing.com>
Message-ID: <4B70D07A.5030808@sonic.net>

Excellent choice Dawson! Korbel makes a really nice rouge Champagne that 
is only sold at the winery. Thanks again for stepping up and planning 
this ride and tour. See you Sunday!

Ron
58 MGA

Dawson Church wrote:
> Hi NOBBC Friends!
> 
> We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range weather
> forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.
> 
> Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in Guerneville) is
> going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They make award
> winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other varieties, and
> the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their cellars.
> 
> We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll park in a
> big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose out. My
> address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The driveway is on
> your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow 1490 mailbox
> and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."
> 
> We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of the most
> gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods redwood state
> park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among the giant
> redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over 300 feet
> high.
> 
> Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel has a
> gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your own.
> 
> Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to the club,
> and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your friends to ride
> along!
> 
> See you on Sunday!
> 
> Dawson
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From markdarley at mac.com  Mon Feb  8 22:46:09 2010
From: markdarley at mac.com (MarkDarley)
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:46:09 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
In-Reply-To: <8FFD318C-7C4B-4FDF-BB96-1A39A1776C01@authorspublishing.com>
References: <8FFD318C-7C4B-4FDF-BB96-1A39A1776C01@authorspublishing.com>
Message-ID: <D2E577AB-E8BA-428E-9A61-85872AAB1CCC@mac.com>

Dear Dawson,

I and my 58 (actually 57 in the UK) MGA are new to the club.
If the weather gods are with us (I have no roof), I hope to register  
the car on Thursday in Petaluma in time for my wife, Suzanne, and I to  
join you on the 14th.

Will let you know if we make it on Thursday!

Mark

PS. The car made it's first (under the radar) run up route 1 since  
1966 to Inverness on Sunday. Ran like an alley cat!

MarkDarleyPhoto.com
Cell 415-310-5252
Sent from location.

On Feb 8, 2010, at 3:56 PM, Dawson Church  
<dawson at authorspublishing.com> wrote:

> Hi NOBBC Friends!
>
> We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range  
> weather
> forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.
>
> Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in  
> Guerneville) is
> going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They make  
> award
> winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other  
> varieties, and
> the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their  
> cellars.
>
> We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll  
> park in a
> big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose  
> out. My
> address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The  
> driveway is on
> your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow 1490  
> mailbox
> and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."
>
> We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of  
> the most
> gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods  
> redwood state
> park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among  
> the giant
> redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over 300  
> feet
> high.
>
> Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel  
> has a
> gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your  
> own.
>
> Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to  
> the club,
> and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your  
> friends to ride
> along!
>
> See you on Sunday!
>
> Dawson
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From baugustine at harvestinn.com  Wed Feb 10 09:33:31 2010
From: baugustine at harvestinn.com (Brandon Augustine)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:33:31 -0600
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
References: <8FFD318C-7C4B-4FDF-BB96-1A39A1776C01@authorspublishing.com>
	<D2E577AB-E8BA-428E-9A61-85872AAB1CCC@mac.com>
Message-ID: <7A861DB9EEFCE349AF0611F1B3CD6224B7D920@aeastdelphi.aeast.local>

Dawson,

Thank you for putting this drive together. My wife and I are looking forward
to seeing everyone on Sunday.

Brandon
67 MGB roadster

Brandon Augustine
Landscaping Director
Harvest Inn
One Main St.
St. Helena, CA 94574
www.harvestinn.com <http://www.harvestinn.com/>
Tel. 707-963-9463 ext. 480
Fax 707-963-4426

________________________________

From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net on behalf of MarkDarley
Sent: Mon 2/8/10 9:46 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Cc: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour



Dear Dawson,

I and my 58 (actually 57 in the UK) MGA are new to the club.
If the weather gods are with us (I have no roof), I hope to register
the car on Thursday in Petaluma in time for my wife, Suzanne, and I to
join you on the 14th.

Will let you know if we make it on Thursday!

Mark

PS. The car made it's first (under the radar) run up route 1 since
1966 to Inverness on Sunday. Ran like an alley cat!

MarkDarleyPhoto.com
Cell 415-310-5252
Sent from location.

On Feb 8, 2010, at 3:56 PM, Dawson Church
<dawson at authorspublishing.com> wrote:

> Hi NOBBC Friends!
>
> We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range
> weather
> forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.
>
> Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in
> Guerneville) is
> going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They make
> award
> winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other
> varieties, and
> the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their
> cellars.
>
> We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll
> park in a
> big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose
> out. My
> address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The
> driveway is on
> your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow 1490
> mailbox
> and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."
>
> We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of
> the most
> gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods
> redwood state
> park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among
> the giant
> redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over 300
> feet
> high.
>
> Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel
> has a
> gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your
> own.
>
> Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to
> the club,
> and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your
> friends to ride
> along!
>
> See you on Sunday!
>
> Dawson
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
_______________________________________________
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From don at napanet.net  Wed Feb 10 13:58:51 2010
From: don at napanet.net (don)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:58:51 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Look, Signal, Manoeuvre
In-Reply-To: <7A861DB9EEFCE349AF0611F1B3CD6224B7D920@aeastdelphi.aeast.l ocal>
References: <8FFD318C-7C4B-4FDF-BB96-1A39A1776C01@authorspublishing.com>
	<D2E577AB-E8BA-428E-9A61-85872AAB1CCC@mac.com>
	<7A861DB9EEFCE349AF0611F1B3CD6224B7D920@aeastdelphi.aeast.local>
Message-ID: <20100210211500.DD03C24DBC0@mail.napanet.net>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLAVx19vOZw&feature=player_embedded#

This '60s British motorcycle safety video is a hoot!

___________________________________________________________________

Don Scott
Calistoga, CA

1962 MGA Mk II
1973 MGB GT (selling)
2001 Miata SE BRG
63-67 MGB (searching)

From gsb1159 at pacbell.net  Wed Feb 10 14:52:53 2010
From: gsb1159 at pacbell.net (Greg Badano)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:52:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
In-Reply-To: <8FFD318C-7C4B-4FDF-BB96-1A39A1776C01@authorspublishing.com>
Message-ID: <114992.15254.qm@web180002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Dawson,
 
Thanks so much for putting this together!  If all goes well, I will be
attending with my wife.  This will be my first club ride and look forward to
meeting you and the group.
 
Best,
 
Greg
'59 AC Aceca

--- On Mon, 2/8/10, Dawson Church <dawson at authorspublishing.com> wrote:


From: Dawson Church <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 3:56 PM


Hi NOBBC Friends!

We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range weather
forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.

Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in Guerneville) is
going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They make award
winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other varieties, and
the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their cellars.

We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll park in a
big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose out. My
address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The driveway is
on
your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow 1490 mailbox
and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."

We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of the most
gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods redwood state
park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among the giant
redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over 300 feet
high.

Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel has a
gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your own.

Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to the club,
and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your friends to
ride
along!

See you on Sunday!

Dawson
_______________________________________________
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From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Wed Feb 10 18:35:15 2010
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:35:15 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Look, Signal, Manoeuvre
In-Reply-To: <20100210211500.DD03C24DBC0@mail.napanet.net>
Message-ID: <118115.16633.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Don, that took me back a few years.  It almost looked as though it was
filmed around Solihull where I lived close to.  It was great.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of don
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:59 PM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: [Nobbc] Look, Signal, Manoeuvre

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLAVx19vOZw&feature=player_embedded#

This '60s British motorcycle safety video is a hoot!

___________________________________________________________________

Don Scott
Calistoga, CA

1962 MGA Mk II
1973 MGB GT (selling)
2001 Miata SE BRG
63-67 MGB (searching)
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From csaul at noleak.com  Wed Feb 10 20:53:52 2010
From: csaul at noleak.com (Charlie Saul)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:53:52 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
In-Reply-To: <114992.15254.qm@web180002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <8FFD318C-7C4B-4FDF-BB96-1A39A1776C01@authorspublishing.com>
	<114992.15254.qm@web180002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE306E20@AQUA-DC1.noleak.com>

Hi Dawson,

Having revived our car from its Great Slumber; following three moves,
two careers and raising our kid, Lori and I hope to join up with the
club for our first ride in 25 years.

Best Regards,

Charlie
52 Jag XK120 OTS


AQUATECH CONSULTANCY, INC.

Charles Saul
Principal

Please visit us on the web:  www.noleak.com

csaul at noleak.com
Office: (415) 884-2121, Fax: (415) 884-2443
Cell phone: (415) 377-6577

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Greg Badano
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:53 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour

Hi Dawson,

Thanks so much for putting this together!  If all goes well, I will be
attending with my wife.  This will be my first club ride and look
forward to
meeting you and the group.

Best,

Greg
'59 AC Aceca

--- On Mon, 2/8/10, Dawson Church <dawson at authorspublishing.com> wrote:


From: Dawson Church <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 3:56 PM


Hi NOBBC Friends!

We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range
weather
forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.

Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in
Guerneville) is
going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They make
award
winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other varieties,
and
the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their
cellars.

We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll park
in a
big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose out.
My
address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The driveway
is
on
your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow 1490
mailbox
and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."

We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of the
most
gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods redwood
state
park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among the
giant
redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over 300
feet
high.

Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel has a
gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your own.

Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to the
club,
and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your friends
to
ride
along!

See you on Sunday!

Dawson
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From sarto477 at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 10 21:30:18 2010
From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:30:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
In-Reply-To: <661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE306E20@AQUA-DC1.noleak.com>
Message-ID: <765006.41771.qm@web113513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hello Dawson, Phyliss and I will be there.  My hat is off to you for another
great event.
Sarto
1966 Lotus Elan coupe

--- On Wed, 2/10/10, Charlie Saul <csaul at noleak.com> wrote:

From: Charlie Saul <csaul at noleak.com>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 7:53 PM

Hi Dawson,

Having revived our car from its Great Slumber; following three moves,
two careers and raising our kid, Lori and I hope to join up with the
club for our first ride in 25 years.

Best Regards,

Charlie
52 Jag XK120 OTS


AQUATECH CONSULTANCY, INC.

Charles Saul
Principal

Please visit us on the web:  www.noleak.com

csaul at noleak.com
Office: (415) 884-2121, Fax: (415) 884-2443
Cell phone: (415) 377-6577

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Greg Badano
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:53 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour

Hi Dawson,

Thanks so much for putting this together!  If all goes well, I will be
attending with my wife.  This will be my first club ride and look
forward to
meeting you and the group.

Best,

Greg
'59 AC Aceca

--- On Mon, 2/8/10, Dawson Church <dawson at authorspublishing.com> wrote:


From: Dawson Church <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 3:56 PM


Hi NOBBC Friends!

We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range
weather
forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.

Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in
Guerneville) is
going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They make
award
winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other varieties,
and
the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their
cellars.

We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll park
in a
big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose out.
My
address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The driveway
is
on
your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow 1490
mailbox
and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."

We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of the
most
gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods redwood
state
park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among the
giant
redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over 300
feet
high.

Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel has a
gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your own.

Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to the
club,
and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your friends
to
ride
along!

See you on Sunday!

Dawson
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Wed Feb 10 21:30:51 2010
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:30:51 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
In-Reply-To: <661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE306E20@AQUA-DC1.noleak.com>
References: <8FFD318C-7C4B-4FDF-BB96-1A39A1776C01@authorspublishing.com>
	<114992.15254.qm@web180002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE306E20@AQUA-DC1.noleak.com>
Message-ID: <000301caaad2$ff64a340$fe2de9c0$@com>

DAWSON,

SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO BE GETTING A PRETTY LARGE TURN OUT.
ARE ALL THOSE CARS GOING TO FIT IN THE CIRCLE?

JOHN KENNER

510 231 6803 P
415 806 2457 C
510 231 6805 F




-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Charlie Saul
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 7:54 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour

Hi Dawson,

Having revived our car from its Great Slumber; following three moves,
two careers and raising our kid, Lori and I hope to join up with the
club for our first ride in 25 years.

Best Regards,

Charlie
52 Jag XK120 OTS


AQUATECH CONSULTANCY, INC.

Charles Saul
Principal

Please visit us on the web:  www.noleak.com

csaul at noleak.com
Office: (415) 884-2121, Fax: (415) 884-2443
Cell phone: (415) 377-6577

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Greg Badano
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:53 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour

Hi Dawson,

Thanks so much for putting this together!  If all goes well, I will be
attending with my wife.  This will be my first club ride and look
forward to
meeting you and the group.

Best,

Greg
'59 AC Aceca

--- On Mon, 2/8/10, Dawson Church <dawson at authorspublishing.com> wrote:


From: Dawson Church <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 3:56 PM


Hi NOBBC Friends!

We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range
weather
forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.

Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in
Guerneville) is
going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They make
award
winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other varieties,
and
the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their
cellars.

We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll park
in a
big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose out.
My
address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The driveway
is
on
your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow 1490
mailbox
and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."

We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of the
most
gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods redwood
state
park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among the
giant
redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over 300
feet
high.

Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel has a
gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your own.

Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to the
club,
and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your friends
to
ride
along!

See you on Sunday!

Dawson
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From rolquinmac at me.com  Thu Feb 11 10:23:30 2010
From: rolquinmac at me.com (Roland Quintero)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:23:30 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
In-Reply-To: <8FFD318C-7C4B-4FDF-BB96-1A39A1776C01@authorspublishing.com>
References: <8FFD318C-7C4B-4FDF-BB96-1A39A1776C01@authorspublishing.com>
Message-ID: <A51E9C98-6E23-470E-9F61-F8B503E31011@me.com>

Hi,  Sounds great.  Cannot come early.    I am curious about any drive  
after Korbel,  Maybe out to Jenner, Bodega and back.   Is there any  
plans for after lunch.  I am new and can only meet at Korbel if there  
is going to be more driving.  If not... another time thanks.... Roland  
Quintero  07 Jag.

On Feb 8, 2010, at 3:56 PM, Dawson Church wrote:

> Hi NOBBC Friends!
>
> We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range  
> weather
> forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.
>
> Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in  
> Guerneville) is
> going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They make  
> award
> winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other  
> varieties, and
> the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their  
> cellars.
>
> We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll  
> park in a
> big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose  
> out. My
> address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The  
> driveway is on
> your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow 1490  
> mailbox
> and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."
>
> We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of  
> the most
> gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods  
> redwood state
> park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among  
> the giant
> redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over 300  
> feet
> high.
>
> Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel  
> has a
> gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your  
> own.
>
> Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to  
> the club,
> and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your  
> friends to ride
> along!
>
> See you on Sunday!
>
> Dawson
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From wbain at sonic.net  Thu Feb 11 12:32:47 2010
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:32:47 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
In-Reply-To: <765006.41771.qm@web113513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <765006.41771.qm@web113513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <72F49614-728F-46A4-878A-4A867300D436@sonic.net>

Hi Dawson,
Thanks for hosting another event. I hope to have the Morgan
back together (transmission problem) and make your run.

Wendell
59 Morgan

On Feb 10, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Sarto Rocheleau wrote:

> Hello Dawson, Phyliss and I will be there.  My hat is off to you  
> for another
> great event.
> Sarto
> 1966 Lotus Elan coupe
>
> --- On Wed, 2/10/10, Charlie Saul <csaul at noleak.com> wrote:
>
> From: Charlie Saul <csaul at noleak.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 7:53 PM
>
> Hi Dawson,
>
> Having revived our car from its Great Slumber; following three moves,
> two careers and raising our kid, Lori and I hope to join up with the
> club for our first ride in 25 years.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Charlie
> 52 Jag XK120 OTS
>
>
> AQUATECH CONSULTANCY, INC.
>
> Charles Saul
> Principal
>
> Please visit us on the web:  www.noleak.com
>
> csaul at noleak.com
> Office: (415) 884-2121, Fax: (415) 884-2443
> Cell phone: (415) 377-6577
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- 
> bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Greg Badano
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:53 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
>
> Hi Dawson,
>
> Thanks so much for putting this together!  If all goes well, I will be
> attending with my wife.  This will be my first club ride and look
> forward to
> meeting you and the group.
>
> Best,
>
> Greg
> '59 AC Aceca
>
> --- On Mon, 2/8/10, Dawson Church <dawson at authorspublishing.com>  
> wrote:
>
>
> From: Dawson Church <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
> Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 3:56 PM
>
>
> Hi NOBBC Friends!
>
> We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range
> weather
> forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.
>
> Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in
> Guerneville) is
> going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They make
> award
> winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other  
> varieties,
> and
> the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their
> cellars.
>
> We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll  
> park
> in a
> big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose  
> out.
> My
> address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The  
> driveway
> is
> on
> your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow 1490
> mailbox
> and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."
>
> We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of  
> the
> most
> gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods redwood
> state
> park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among the
> giant
> redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over 300
> feet
> high.
>
> Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel  
> has a
> gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your  
> own.
>
> Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to the
> club,
> and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your friends
> to
> ride
> along!
>
> See you on Sunday!
>
> Dawson
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Thu Feb 11 19:16:42 2010
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:16:42 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
In-Reply-To: <8FFD318C-7C4B-4FDF-BB96-1A39A1776C01@authorspublishing.com>
Message-ID: <956177.95753.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Dawson, this sounds like a great drive and a visit to Korbel is always fun.
Marla and I drove Sweetwater Springs Rd about one month ago and it wasn't
too bad.  My son, John may join us so we could be 2 cars.

Andy



-Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Dawson Church
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:57 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour

Hi NOBBC Friends!

We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range weather
forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.

Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in Guerneville)
is
going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They make award
winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other varieties, and
the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their cellars.

We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll park in a
big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose out. My
address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The driveway is
on
your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow 1490 mailbox
and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."

We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of the most
gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods redwood state
park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among the giant
redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over 300 feet
high.

Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel has a
gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your own.

Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to the club,
and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your friends to
ride
along!

See you on Sunday!

Dawson
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From markdarley at mac.com  Thu Feb 11 19:40:09 2010
From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:40:09 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
In-Reply-To: <956177.95753.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <956177.95753.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <33E539DF-E3D2-42F2-90A9-BEF15FA6327D@mac.com>

Dawson,

My Tyrolite green '58 MGA 1500 is now running and registered (as of  
this morning), and my wife, Suzanne, and I would be delighted to join  
you for brunch (if you still have room), and the drive after.

Regards
Mark

Mark Darley
markdarley at mac.com
Mobile Phone 415 310 5252



On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:16 PM, andy preston wrote:

> Dawson, this sounds like a great drive and a visit to Korbel is  
> always fun.
> Marla and I drove Sweetwater Springs Rd about one month ago and it  
> wasn't
> too bad.  My son, John may join us so we could be 2 cars.
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- 
> bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Dawson Church
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:57 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
>
> Hi NOBBC Friends!
>
> We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range  
> weather
> forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.
>
> Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in  
> Guerneville)
> is
> going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They  
> make award
> winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other  
> varieties, and
> the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their  
> cellars.
>
> We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll  
> park in a
> big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose  
> out. My
> address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The  
> driveway is
> on
> your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow  
> 1490 mailbox
> and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."
>
> We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of  
> the most
> gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods  
> redwood state
> park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among  
> the giant
> redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over  
> 300 feet
> high.
>
> Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel  
> has a
> gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your  
> own.
>
> Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to  
> the club,
> and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your  
> friends to
> ride
> along!
>
> See you on Sunday!
>
> Dawson
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From nobbc at sonic.net  Thu Feb 11 20:05:30 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:05:30 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
In-Reply-To: <33E539DF-E3D2-42F2-90A9-BEF15FA6327D@mac.com>
References: <956177.95753.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<33E539DF-E3D2-42F2-90A9-BEF15FA6327D@mac.com>
Message-ID: <4B74C57A.3060300@sonic.net>

Yes!!! Always glad to see another MGA along on a ride. Maybe we can get 
a few more. Liam? Tim?

Ron
58 MGA

Mark Darley wrote:

> Dawson,
> 
> My Tyrolite green '58 MGA 1500 is now running and registered (as of  
> this morning), and my wife, Suzanne, and I would be delighted to join  
> you for brunch (if you still have room), and the drive after.
> 
> Regards
> Mark
> 
> Mark Darley
> markdarley at mac.com
> Mobile Phone 415 310 5252
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:16 PM, andy preston wrote:
> 
>> Dawson, this sounds like a great drive and a visit to Korbel is  
>> always fun.
>> Marla and I drove Sweetwater Springs Rd about one month ago and it  
>> wasn't
>> too bad.  My son, John may join us so we could be 2 cars.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- 
>> bounces at autox.team.net] On
>> Behalf Of Dawson Church
>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:57 PM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
>>
>> Hi NOBBC Friends!
>>
>> We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range  
>> weather
>> forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.
>>
>> Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in  
>> Guerneville)
>> is
>> going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They  make 
>> award
>> winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other  
>> varieties, and
>> the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their  
>> cellars.
>>
>> We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll  
>> park in a
>> big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose  
>> out. My
>> address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The  
>> driveway is
>> on
>> your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow  1490 
>> mailbox
>> and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."
>>
>> We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of  
>> the most
>> gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods  
>> redwood state
>> park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among  
>> the giant
>> redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over  300 
>> feet
>> high.
>>
>> Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel  has a
>> gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your  own.
>>
>> Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to  
>> the club,
>> and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your  
>> friends to
>> ride
>> along!
>>
>> See you on Sunday!
>>
>> Dawson
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From splath at comcast.net  Thu Feb 11 21:25:07 2010
From: splath at comcast.net (Steve Plath)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:25:07 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
References: <8FFD318C-7C4B-4FDF-BB96-1A39A1776C01@authorspublishing.com>
Message-ID: <44E41C88EA4A45C19DEDB00352E6E08F@dell8300>

I know it's been a long time, but I'm going to try to make this drive.  I'm 
just itching to get out on the road again.

Steve Plath
The Marin County Contingent

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dawson Church" <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:56 PM
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour


> Hi NOBBC Friends!
>
> We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range 
> weather
> forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.
>
> Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in Guerneville) 
> is
> going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They make award
> winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other varieties, 
> and
> the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their 
> cellars.
>
> We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll park in 
> a
> big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose out. My
> address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The driveway 
> is on
> your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow 1490 
> mailbox
> and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."
>
> We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of the 
> most
> gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods redwood 
> state
> park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among the 
> giant
> redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over 300 feet
> high.
>
> Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel has a
> gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your own.
>
> Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to the 
> club,
> and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your friends to 
> ride
> along!
>
> See you on Sunday!
>
> Dawson
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From nobbc at sonic.net  Thu Feb 11 23:13:18 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:13:18 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
In-Reply-To: <44E41C88EA4A45C19DEDB00352E6E08F@dell8300>
References: <8FFD318C-7C4B-4FDF-BB96-1A39A1776C01@authorspublishing.com>
	<44E41C88EA4A45C19DEDB00352E6E08F@dell8300>
Message-ID: <4B74F17E.5090309@sonic.net>

You going to bring any of the rest of the MCC with you?

Ron
58 MGA

Steve Plath wrote:

> I know it's been a long time, but I'm going to try to make this drive.  
> I'm just itching to get out on the road again.
> 
> Steve Plath
> The Marin County Contingent
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawson Church" 
> <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:56 PM
> Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
> 
> 
>> Hi NOBBC Friends!
>>
>> We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range 
>> weather
>> forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.
>>
>> Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in 
>> Guerneville) is
>> going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They make 
>> award
>> winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other 
>> varieties, and
>> the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their 
>> cellars.
>>
>> We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll 
>> park in a
>> big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose 
>> out. My
>> address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The 
>> driveway is on
>> your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow 1490 
>> mailbox
>> and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."
>>
>> We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of 
>> the most
>> gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods redwood 
>> state
>> park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among the 
>> giant
>> redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over 300 feet
>> high.
>>
>> Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel has a
>> gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your own.
>>
>> Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to the 
>> club,
>> and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your friends 
>> to ride
>> along!
>>
>> See you on Sunday!
>>
>> Dawson
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From liamof at earthlink.net  Thu Feb 11 23:59:48 2010
From: liamof at earthlink.net (liam oflaherty)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:59:48 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
References: <956177.95753.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><33E539DF-E3D2-42F2-90A9-BEF15FA6327D@mac.com>
	<4B74C57A.3060300@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <001201caabb0$f813c740$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21>

Hey Ron,
I should be there with Michelle.  It will be great to see every one.
Liam
57 mga
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour


> Yes!!! Always glad to see another MGA along on a ride. Maybe we can get a 
> few more. Liam? Tim?
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> Mark Darley wrote:
>
>> Dawson,
>>
>> My Tyrolite green '58 MGA 1500 is now running and registered (as of  this 
>> morning), and my wife, Suzanne, and I would be delighted to join  you for 
>> brunch (if you still have room), and the drive after.
>>
>> Regards
>> Mark
>>
>> Mark Darley
>> markdarley at mac.com
>> Mobile Phone 415 310 5252
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:16 PM, andy preston wrote:
>>
>>> Dawson, this sounds like a great drive and a visit to Korbel is  always 
>>> fun.
>>> Marla and I drove Sweetwater Springs Rd about one month ago and it 
>>> wasn't
>>> too bad.  My son, John may join us so we could be 2 cars.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- 
>>> bounces at autox.team.net] On
>>> Behalf Of Dawson Church
>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:57 PM
>>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>> Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
>>>
>>> Hi NOBBC Friends!
>>>
>>> We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range 
>>> weather
>>> forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.
>>>
>>> Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in 
>>> Guerneville)
>>> is
>>> going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They  make 
>>> award
>>> winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other 
>>> varieties, and
>>> the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their 
>>> cellars.
>>>
>>> We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll  park 
>>> in a
>>> big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose  out. 
>>> My
>>> address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The 
>>> driveway is
>>> on
>>> your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow  1490 
>>> mailbox
>>> and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."
>>>
>>> We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of  the 
>>> most
>>> gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods  redwood 
>>> state
>>> park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among  the 
>>> giant
>>> redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over  300 
>>> feet
>>> high.
>>>
>>> Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel  has 
>>> a
>>> gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your  own.
>>>
>>> Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to  the 
>>> club,
>>> and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your  friends 
>>> to
>>> ride
>>> along!
>>>
>>> See you on Sunday!
>>>
>>> Dawson
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From splath at comcast.net  Fri Feb 12 01:05:17 2010
From: splath at comcast.net (Steve Plath)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:05:17 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
References: <8FFD318C-7C4B-4FDF-BB96-1A39A1776C01@authorspublishing.com><44E41C88EA4A45C19DEDB00352E6E08F@dell8300>
	<4B74F17E.5090309@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <F3F59FFB192843458EB6376BC17E96FC@dell8300>

Ron,

Haven't talked to anybody.  When it rains like this everyone in Marin hides 
indoors.  My oldest son wants to come along.  I'll see what's running.

Steve

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour


> You going to bring any of the rest of the MCC with you?
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> Steve Plath wrote:
>
>> I know it's been a long time, but I'm going to try to make this drive. 
>> I'm just itching to get out on the road again.
>>
>> Steve Plath
>> The Marin County Contingent
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawson Church" 
>> <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:56 PM
>> Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
>>
>>
>>> Hi NOBBC Friends!
>>>
>>> We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range 
>>> weather
>>> forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.
>>>
>>> Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in 
>>> Guerneville) is
>>> going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They make 
>>> award
>>> winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other varieties, 
>>> and
>>> the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their 
>>> cellars.
>>>
>>> We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll park 
>>> in a
>>> big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose out. 
>>> My
>>> address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The driveway 
>>> is on
>>> your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow 1490 
>>> mailbox
>>> and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."
>>>
>>> We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of the 
>>> most
>>> gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods redwood 
>>> state
>>> park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among the 
>>> giant
>>> redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over 300 
>>> feet
>>> high.
>>>
>>> Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel has a
>>> gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your own.
>>>
>>> Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to the 
>>> club,
>>> and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your friends 
>>> to ride
>>> along!
>>>
>>> See you on Sunday!
>>>
>>> Dawson
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From rlmossholder at comcast.net  Fri Feb 12 08:19:13 2010
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:19:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
In-Reply-To: <F3F59FFB192843458EB6376BC17E96FC@dell8300>
Message-ID: <682624075.3004971265987953244.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Dawson,



B  It's so nice of you to put this together again.B  Stacey and I had such a
wonderful time last year.B  You truly are a gracious host.B  I'm sorry we will
not be able to attend, but the Spitfire is just not in any condition to make
it. B I'm rebuilding the engine and replacing the standard trans with an
overdrive unit.B  IB hope toB have it back together byB this summer. B It's
because of this we have made other plans.B  We really wanted to come along and
share in the camaraderie . B I hope every one has aB great time, and a Happy
Valentine's day.B 



Cheers,

Rich & Stacey

From tsthresh at hotmail.com  Fri Feb 12 09:04:09 2010
From: tsthresh at hotmail.com (TIM THRESH)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:04:09 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
In-Reply-To: <4B74C57A.3060300@sonic.net>
References: <956177.95753.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>,
	<33E539DF-E3D2-42F2-90A9-BEF15FA6327D@mac.com>,
	<4B74C57A.3060300@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <BAY126-W24075CCF58F8FEE863B02D84D0@phx.gbl>

Hi All,



Not likely I am afraid. Just back from a cold wet England, and we have to
re-start the B&B business this week-end!



Tim

> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:05:30 -0800
> From: nobbc at sonic.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
>
> Yes!!! Always glad to see another MGA along on a ride. Maybe we can get
> a few more. Liam? Tim?
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> Mark Darley wrote:
>
> > Dawson,
> >
> > My Tyrolite green '58 MGA 1500 is now running and registered (as of
> > this morning), and my wife, Suzanne, and I would be delighted to join
> > you for brunch (if you still have room), and the drive after.
> >
> > Regards
> > Mark
> >
> > Mark Darley
> > markdarley at mac.com
> > Mobile Phone 415 310 5252
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:16 PM, andy preston wrote:
> >
> >> Dawson, this sounds like a great drive and a visit to Korbel is
> >> always fun.
> >> Marla and I drove Sweetwater Springs Rd about one month ago and it
> >> wasn't
> >> too bad. My son, John may join us so we could be 2 cars.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-----
> >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-
> >> bounces at autox.team.net] On
> >> Behalf Of Dawson Church
> >> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:57 PM
> >> To: North Bay British Car Club
> >> Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
> >>
> >> Hi NOBBC Friends!
> >>
> >> We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range
> >> weather
> >> forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.
> >>
> >> Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in
> >> Guerneville)
> >> is
> >> going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They make
> >> award
> >> winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other
> >> varieties, and
> >> the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their
> >> cellars.
> >>
> >> We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll
> >> park in a
> >> big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose
> >> out. My
> >> address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The
> >> driveway is
> >> on
> >> your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow 1490
> >> mailbox
> >> and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."
> >>
> >> We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of
> >> the most
> >> gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods
> >> redwood state
> >> park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among
> >> the giant
> >> redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over 300
> >> feet
> >> high.
> >>
> >> Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel has a
> >> gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your own.
> >>
> >> Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to
> >> the club,
> >> and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your
> >> friends to
> >> ride
> >> along!
> >>
> >> See you on Sunday!
> >>
> >> Dawson
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Nobbc mailing list
> >> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> >
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> > Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From markdarley at mac.com  Fri Feb 12 11:12:54 2010
From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:12:54 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
In-Reply-To: <001201caabb0$f813c740$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21>
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Liam,

Just got my papers back from Heritage Motor Center in the UK.   
According to them my car was shipped from the factory in '57. This  
would explain the TC parts in my rear-end brake system!
Look forward to seeing you on Saturday.
Mark

Mark Darley
markdarley at mac.com
415 381 5452



On Feb 11, 2010, at 10:59 PM, liam oflaherty wrote:

> Hey Ron,
> I should be there with Michelle.  It will be great to see every one.
> Liam
> 57 mga
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
>
>
>> Yes!!! Always glad to see another MGA along on a ride. Maybe we can  
>> get a few more. Liam? Tim?
>>
>> Ron
>> 58 MGA
>>
>> Mark Darley wrote:
>>
>>> Dawson,
>>>
>>> My Tyrolite green '58 MGA 1500 is now running and registered (as  
>>> of  this morning), and my wife, Suzanne, and I would be delighted  
>>> to join  you for brunch (if you still have room), and the drive  
>>> after.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> Mark Darley
>>> markdarley at mac.com
>>> Mobile Phone 415 310 5252
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:16 PM, andy preston wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dawson, this sounds like a great drive and a visit to Korbel is   
>>>> always fun.
>>>> Marla and I drove Sweetwater Springs Rd about one month ago and  
>>>> it wasn't
>>>> too bad.  My son, John may join us so we could be 2 cars.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-----
>>>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- bounces at autox.team.net 
>>>> ] On
>>>> Behalf Of Dawson Church
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:57 PM
>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>>> Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
>>>>
>>>> Hi NOBBC Friends!
>>>>
>>>> We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long  
>>>> range weather
>>>> forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.
>>>>
>>>> Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in  
>>>> Guerneville)
>>>> is
>>>> going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They   
>>>> make award
>>>> winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other  
>>>> varieties, and
>>>> the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in  
>>>> their cellars.
>>>>
>>>> We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants.  
>>>> We'll  park in a
>>>> big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars  
>>>> nose  out. My
>>>> address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The  
>>>> driveway is
>>>> on
>>>> your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow   
>>>> 1490 mailbox
>>>> and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."
>>>>
>>>> We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one  
>>>> of  the most
>>>> gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods   
>>>> redwood state
>>>> park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll  
>>>> among  the giant
>>>> redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over   
>>>> 300 feet
>>>> high.
>>>>
>>>> Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting.  
>>>> Korbel  has a
>>>> gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring  
>>>> your  own.
>>>>
>>>> Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers  
>>>> to  the club,
>>>> and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your   
>>>> friends to
>>>> ride
>>>> along!
>>>>
>>>> See you on Sunday!
>>>>
>>>> Dawson
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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From dawson at authorspublishing.com  Fri Feb 12 11:24:43 2010
From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:24:43 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] UPDATE Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
Message-ID: <3C35ABF8-81DA-4823-8094-D5578B914C92@authorspublishing.com>

Dear NOBBC friends,

>From the responses, it looks like we're going to have a big turnout, and some
fun cars on Sunday! The original announcement is below.

I drove Sweetwater Springs rd yesterday and it is the kind of road for which
British sports cars were made! It's only 10 miles but took me 30 minutes. It's
a one lane road for much of its length.

The rain gods are with us. The forecast shows no rain this weekend, and
temperatures in the upper 60s.

I'll have fresh baked croissants and coffee on the patio at 10 am. Remember to
park your car snug against the next car forming a circle on the gravel in the
back of my house. If someone else can play parking attendant and/or
photographer I'd be grateful, so I can attend to everything else. We'll leave
at 10:30, and should be at Armstrong Redwoods by 11:30. I have route maps
printed out for everyone.

We'll need to keep our stroll in the redwoods brief, so we can all be at
Korbel by 12:15 for our private tour and tasting.

See you Sunday!

Dawson



Hi NOBBC Friends!

We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range weather
forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.

Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in Guerneville) is
going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They make award
winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other varieties, and
the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their cellars.

We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll park in a
big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose out. My
address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The driveway is on
your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow 1490 mailbox
and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."

We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of the most
gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods redwood state
park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among the giant
redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over 300 feet
high.

Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel has a
gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your own.

Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to the club,
and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your friends to ride
along!

See you on Sunday!

Dawson

From morrisf at SIDWater.org  Fri Feb 12 11:38:56 2010
From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:38:56 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] UPDATE Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
In-Reply-To: <3C35ABF8-81DA-4823-8094-D5578B914C92@authorspublishing.com>
Message-ID: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E1EB1867@echo01.SID.LOCAL>

Going to have to pass this time due to a trip to Pacific Grove but I hope to
join you all for a repeat one of these days. I will post a trip to Berryessa
and Winters in Spring.

Frank Morris
63 JagE
61 MGA
74 MGB

----- Original Message -----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net <nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net>
To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri Feb 12 10:24:43 2010
Subject: [Nobbc] UPDATE Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour

Dear NOBBC friends,

>From the responses, it looks like we're going to have a big turnout, and
some
fun cars on Sunday! The original announcement is below.

I drove Sweetwater Springs rd yesterday and it is the kind of road for which
British sports cars were made! It's only 10 miles but took me 30 minutes.
It's
a one lane road for much of its length.

The rain gods are with us. The forecast shows no rain this weekend, and
temperatures in the upper 60s.

I'll have fresh baked croissants and coffee on the patio at 10 am. Remember
to
park your car snug against the next car forming a circle on the gravel in the
back of my house. If someone else can play parking attendant and/or
photographer I'd be grateful, so I can attend to everything else. We'll leave
at 10:30, and should be at Armstrong Redwoods by 11:30. I have route maps
printed out for everyone.

We'll need to keep our stroll in the redwoods brief, so we can all be at
Korbel by 12:15 for our private tour and tasting.

See you Sunday!

Dawson



Hi NOBBC Friends!

We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range weather
forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.

Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in Guerneville) is
going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They make award
winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other varieties, and
the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their cellars.

We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll park in a
big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose out. My
address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The driveway is
on
your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow 1490 mailbox
and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."

We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of the most
gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods redwood state
park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among the giant
redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over 300 feet
high.

Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel has a
gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your own.

Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to the club,
and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your friends to
ride
along!

See you on Sunday!

Dawson
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From tadhyke at earthlink.net  Fri Feb 12 11:40:29 2010
From: tadhyke at earthlink.net (tadhyke at earthlink.net)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:40:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Nobbc] UPDATE Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
Message-ID: <28213752.1266000030281.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

anyone need a co-pilot? My car is buried in winter storage and I fear I wont be able to dig it out for the event.
L

-----Original Message-----
>From: Dawson Church <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
>Sent: Feb 12, 2010 1:24 PM
>To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Nobbc] UPDATE Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
>
>Dear NOBBC friends,
>
>>From the responses, it looks like we're going to have a big turnout, and some
>fun cars on Sunday! The original announcement is below.
>
>I drove Sweetwater Springs rd yesterday and it is the kind of road for which
>British sports cars were made! It's only 10 miles but took me 30 minutes. It's
>a one lane road for much of its length.
>
>The rain gods are with us. The forecast shows no rain this weekend, and
>temperatures in the upper 60s.
>
>I'll have fresh baked croissants and coffee on the patio at 10 am. Remember to
>park your car snug against the next car forming a circle on the gravel in the
>back of my house. If someone else can play parking attendant and/or
>photographer I'd be grateful, so I can attend to everything else. We'll leave
>at 10:30, and should be at Armstrong Redwoods by 11:30. I have route maps
>printed out for everyone.
>
>We'll need to keep our stroll in the redwoods brief, so we can all be at
>Korbel by 12:15 for our private tour and tasting.
>
>See you Sunday!
>
>Dawson
>
>
>
>Hi NOBBC Friends!
>
>We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range weather
>forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.
>
>Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in Guerneville) is
>going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They make award
>winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other varieties, and
>the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their cellars.
>
>We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll park in a
>big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose out. My
>address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The driveway is on
>your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow 1490 mailbox
>and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."
>
>We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of the most
>gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods redwood state
>park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among the giant
>redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over 300 feet
>high.
>
>Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel has a
>gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your own.
>
>Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to the club,
>and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your friends to ride
>along!
>
>See you on Sunday!
>
>Dawson
>_______________________________________________
>Nobbc mailing list
>Nobbc at autox.team.net
>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From dawson at authorspublishing.com  Fri Feb 12 12:04:53 2010
From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:04:53 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] UPDATE Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
In-Reply-To: <28213752.1266000030281.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <28213752.1266000030281.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <89EE2A38-5335-4C34-8852-435110F626E6@authorspublishing.com>

Last year we had a couple of jaguar sedans with empty back seats! So come
along, we'll find you a ride!

Dawson




On Feb 12, 2010, at 10:40 AM, tadhyke at earthlink.net wrote:

> anyone need a co-pilot? My car is buried in winter storage and I fear I wont
be able to dig it out for the event.
> L
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dawson Church <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
>> Sent: Feb 12, 2010 1:24 PM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [Nobbc] UPDATE Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
>>
>> Dear NOBBC friends,
>>
>>> From the responses, it looks like we're going to have a big turnout, and
some
>> fun cars on Sunday! The original announcement is below.
>>
>> I drove Sweetwater Springs rd yesterday and it is the kind of road for
which
>> British sports cars were made! It's only 10 miles but took me 30 minutes.
It's
>> a one lane road for much of its length.
>>
>> The rain gods are with us. The forecast shows no rain this weekend, and
>> temperatures in the upper 60s.
>>
>> I'll have fresh baked croissants and coffee on the patio at 10 am. Remember
to
>> park your car snug against the next car forming a circle on the gravel in
the
>> back of my house. If someone else can play parking attendant and/or
>> photographer I'd be grateful, so I can attend to everything else. We'll
leave
>> at 10:30, and should be at Armstrong Redwoods by 11:30. I have route maps
>> printed out for everyone.
>>
>> We'll need to keep our stroll in the redwoods brief, so we can all be at
>> Korbel by 12:15 for our private tour and tasting.
>>
>> See you Sunday!
>>
>> Dawson
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi NOBBC Friends!
>>
>> We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range
weather
>> forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.
>>
>> Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in Guerneville)
is
>> going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They make award
>> winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other varieties,
and
>> the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their
cellars.
>>
>> We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll park in
a
>> big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose out. My
>> address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The driveway is
on
>> your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow 1490
mailbox
>> and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."
>>
>> We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of the
most
>> gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods redwood
state
>> park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among the
giant
>> redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over 300 feet
>> high.
>>
>> Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel has a
>> gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your own.
>>
>> Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to the
club,
>> and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your friends to
ride
>> along!
>>
>> See you on Sunday!
>>
>> Dawson
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From dawson at authorspublishing.com  Fri Feb 12 12:08:47 2010
From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:08:47 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
In-Reply-To: <000301caaad2$ff64a340$fe2de9c0$@com>
References: <8FFD318C-7C4B-4FDF-BB96-1A39A1776C01@authorspublishing.com>
	<114992.15254.qm@web180002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE306E20@AQUA-DC1.noleak.com>
	<000301caaad2$ff64a340$fe2de9c0$@com>
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Now THAT's the kind of problem I LOVE to have!

Dawson Church, PhD
Energy Psychology Press
1490 Mark West Springs Rd
Santa Rosa, CA 95404
www.EnergyPsychologyPress.com
dawson at soulmedicine.net



On Feb 10, 2010, at 8:30 PM, John Kenner wrote:

> DAWSON,
> 
> SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO BE GETTING A PRETTY LARGE TURN OUT.
> ARE ALL THOSE CARS GOING TO FIT IN THE CIRCLE?
> 
> JOHN KENNER
> 
> 510 231 6803 P
> 415 806 2457 C
> 510 231 6805 F
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Charlie Saul
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 7:54 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
> 
> Hi Dawson,
> 
> Having revived our car from its Great Slumber; following three moves,
> two careers and raising our kid, Lori and I hope to join up with the
> club for our first ride in 25 years.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Charlie
> 52 Jag XK120 OTS
> 
> 
> AQUATECH CONSULTANCY, INC.
> 
> Charles Saul
> Principal
> 
> Please visit us on the web:  www.noleak.com
> 
> csaul at noleak.com
> Office: (415) 884-2121, Fax: (415) 884-2443
> Cell phone: (415) 377-6577
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Greg Badano
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:53 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
> 
> Hi Dawson,
> 
> Thanks so much for putting this together!  If all goes well, I will be
> attending with my wife.  This will be my first club ride and look
> forward to
> meeting you and the group.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Greg
> '59 AC Aceca
> 
> --- On Mon, 2/8/10, Dawson Church <dawson at authorspublishing.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Dawson Church <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
> Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 3:56 PM
> 
> 
> Hi NOBBC Friends!
> 
> We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range
> weather
> forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.
> 
> Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in
> Guerneville) is
> going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They make
> award
> winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other varieties,
> and
> the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their
> cellars.
> 
> We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll park
> in a
> big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose out.
> My
> address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The driveway
> is
> on
> your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow 1490
> mailbox
> and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."
> 
> We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of the
> most
> gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods redwood
> state
> park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among the
> giant
> redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over 300
> feet
> high.
> 
> Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel has a
> gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your own.
> 
> Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to the
> club,
> and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your friends
> to
> ride
> along!
> 
> See you on Sunday!
> 
> Dawson
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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From tadhyke at earthlink.net  Fri Feb 12 12:48:20 2010
From: tadhyke at earthlink.net (tadhyke at earthlink.net)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:48:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Nobbc] UPDATE Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
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thanks......

-----Original Message-----
>From: Dawson Church <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
>Sent: Feb 12, 2010 2:04 PM
>To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] UPDATE Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
>
>Last year we had a couple of jaguar sedans with empty back seats! So come
>along, we'll find you a ride!
>
>Dawson
>
>
>
>
>On Feb 12, 2010, at 10:40 AM, tadhyke at earthlink.net wrote:
>
>> anyone need a co-pilot? My car is buried in winter storage and I fear I wont
>be able to dig it out for the event.
>> L
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dawson Church <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
>>> Sent: Feb 12, 2010 1:24 PM
>>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>> Subject: [Nobbc] UPDATE Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
>>>
>>> Dear NOBBC friends,
>>>
>>>> From the responses, it looks like we're going to have a big turnout, and
>some
>>> fun cars on Sunday! The original announcement is below.
>>>
>>> I drove Sweetwater Springs rd yesterday and it is the kind of road for
>which
>>> British sports cars were made! It's only 10 miles but took me 30 minutes.
>It's
>>> a one lane road for much of its length.
>>>
>>> The rain gods are with us. The forecast shows no rain this weekend, and
>>> temperatures in the upper 60s.
>>>
>>> I'll have fresh baked croissants and coffee on the patio at 10 am. Remember
>to
>>> park your car snug against the next car forming a circle on the gravel in
>the
>>> back of my house. If someone else can play parking attendant and/or
>>> photographer I'd be grateful, so I can attend to everything else. We'll
>leave
>>> at 10:30, and should be at Armstrong Redwoods by 11:30. I have route maps
>>> printed out for everyone.
>>>
>>> We'll need to keep our stroll in the redwoods brief, so we can all be at
>>> Korbel by 12:15 for our private tour and tasting.
>>>
>>> See you Sunday!
>>>
>>> Dawson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi NOBBC Friends!
>>>
>>> We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range
>weather
>>> forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.
>>>
>>> Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in Guerneville)
>is
>>> going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They make award
>>> winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other varieties,
>and
>>> the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their
>cellars.
>>>
>>> We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll park in
>a
>>> big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose out. My
>>> address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The driveway is
>on
>>> your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow 1490
>mailbox
>>> and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."
>>>
>>> We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of the
>most
>>> gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods redwood
>state
>>> park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among the
>giant
>>> redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over 300 feet
>>> high.
>>>
>>> Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel has a
>>> gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your own.
>>>
>>> Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to the
>club,
>>> and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your friends to
>ride
>>> along!
>>>
>>> See you on Sunday!
>>>
>>> Dawson
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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From Kris.Klein at sage.com  Fri Feb 12 15:06:35 2010
From: Kris.Klein at sage.com (Klein, Kris)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:06:35 -0500
Subject: [Nobbc] UPDATE Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
In-Reply-To: <3C35ABF8-81DA-4823-8094-D5578B914C92@authorspublishing.com>
References: <3C35ABF8-81DA-4823-8094-D5578B914C92@authorspublishing.com>
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We will be there if no rain and our Healey will start.  Thanks for hosting!
Krissy & Ginnie Klein

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Dawson Church
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 10:25 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] UPDATE Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour

Dear NOBBC friends,

>From the responses, it looks like we're going to have a big turnout,
>and some
fun cars on Sunday! The original announcement is below.

I drove Sweetwater Springs rd yesterday and it is the kind of road for which
British sports cars were made! It's only 10 miles but took me 30 minutes. It's
a one lane road for much of its length.

The rain gods are with us. The forecast shows no rain this weekend, and
temperatures in the upper 60s.

I'll have fresh baked croissants and coffee on the patio at 10 am. Remember to
park your car snug against the next car forming a circle on the gravel in the
back of my house. If someone else can play parking attendant and/or
photographer I'd be grateful, so I can attend to everything else. We'll leave
at 10:30, and should be at Armstrong Redwoods by 11:30. I have route maps
printed out for everyone.

We'll need to keep our stroll in the redwoods brief, so we can all be at
Korbel by 12:15 for our private tour and tasting.

See you Sunday!

Dawson



Hi NOBBC Friends!

We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long range weather
forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.

Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in Guerneville) is
going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They make award
winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other varieties, and
the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in their cellars.

We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants. We'll park in a
big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars nose out. My
address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The driveway is on
your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow 1490 mailbox
and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."

We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one of the most
gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods redwood state
park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll among the giant
redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over 300 feet
high.

Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting. Korbel has a
gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring your own.

Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers to the club,
and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your friends to ride
along!

See you on Sunday!

Dawson
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
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http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From liamof at earthlink.net  Fri Feb 12 15:07:47 2010
From: liamof at earthlink.net (liam oflaherty)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:07:47 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
References: <956177.95753.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><33E539DF-E3D2-42F2-90A9-BEF15FA6327D@mac.com><4B74C57A.3060300@sonic.net>
	<001201caabb0$f813c740$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21>
	<AC9CA711-A757-4768-9531-528C1036D57A@mac.com>
Message-ID: <002401caac2f$cfcd9e80$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21>

Mark you mean Sunday the 14th rather than Saturday.
Liam
By the way mine was built in December '56 but registered as a '57.
Liam

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Darley" <markdarley at mac.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour


> Liam,
>
> Just got my papers back from Heritage Motor Center in the UK.   According 
> to them my car was shipped from the factory in '57. This  would explain 
> the TC parts in my rear-end brake system!
> Look forward to seeing you on Saturday.
> Mark
>
> Mark Darley
> markdarley at mac.com
> 415 381 5452
>
>
>
> On Feb 11, 2010, at 10:59 PM, liam oflaherty wrote:
>
>> Hey Ron,
>> I should be there with Michelle.  It will be great to see every one.
>> Liam
>> 57 mga
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
>>
>>
>>> Yes!!! Always glad to see another MGA along on a ride. Maybe we can  get 
>>> a few more. Liam? Tim?
>>>
>>> Ron
>>> 58 MGA
>>>
>>> Mark Darley wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dawson,
>>>>
>>>> My Tyrolite green '58 MGA 1500 is now running and registered (as  of 
>>>> this morning), and my wife, Suzanne, and I would be delighted  to join 
>>>> you for brunch (if you still have room), and the drive  after.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> Mark Darley
>>>> markdarley at mac.com
>>>> Mobile Phone 415 310 5252
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:16 PM, andy preston wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dawson, this sounds like a great drive and a visit to Korbel is 
>>>>> always fun.
>>>>> Marla and I drove Sweetwater Springs Rd about one month ago and  it 
>>>>> wasn't
>>>>> too bad.  My son, John may join us so we could be 2 cars.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- 
>>>>> bounces at autox.team.net ] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Dawson Church
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:57 PM
>>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>>>> Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi NOBBC Friends!
>>>>>
>>>>> We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long  range 
>>>>> weather
>>>>> forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in 
>>>>> Guerneville)
>>>>> is
>>>>> going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting. They   make 
>>>>> award
>>>>> winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other 
>>>>> varieties, and
>>>>> the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in  their 
>>>>> cellars.
>>>>>
>>>>> We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants.  We'll 
>>>>> park in a
>>>>> big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars  nose 
>>>>> out. My
>>>>> address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The 
>>>>> driveway is
>>>>> on
>>>>> your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big yellow   1490 
>>>>> mailbox
>>>>> and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."
>>>>>
>>>>> We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road, one  of 
>>>>> the most
>>>>> gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods 
>>>>> redwood state
>>>>> park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll  among 
>>>>> the giant
>>>>> redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and over   300 
>>>>> feet
>>>>> high.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting.  Korbel 
>>>>> has a
>>>>> gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring  your 
>>>>> own.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce newcomers  to 
>>>>> the club,
>>>>> and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your 
>>>>> friends to
>>>>> ride
>>>>> along!
>>>>>
>>>>> See you on Sunday!
>>>>>
>>>>> Dawson
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From markdarley at mac.com  Fri Feb 12 15:39:41 2010
From: markdarley at mac.com (MarkDarley)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:39:41 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
In-Reply-To: <002401caac2f$cfcd9e80$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21>
References: <956177.95753.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<33E539DF-E3D2-42F2-90A9-BEF15FA6327D@mac.com>
	<4B74C57A.3060300@sonic.net> <001201caabb0$f813c740$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21>
	<AC9CA711-A757-4768-9531-528C1036D57A@mac.com>
	<002401caac2f$cfcd9e80$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21>
Message-ID: <6C624176-F84D-4BF8-887E-5E357168B9F9@mac.com>

Sunday of course. Thanks
Mark

MarkDarleyPhoto.com
Cell 415-310-5252
Sent from location.

On Feb 12, 2010, at 2:07 PM, liam oflaherty <liamof at earthlink.net>  
wrote:

> Mark you mean Sunday the 14th rather than Saturday.
> Liam
> By the way mine was built in December '56 but registered as a '57.
> Liam
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Darley" <markdarley at mac.com>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
>
>
>> Liam,
>>
>> Just got my papers back from Heritage Motor Center in the UK.    
>> According to them my car was shipped from the factory in '57. This   
>> would explain the TC parts in my rear-end brake system!
>> Look forward to seeing you on Saturday.
>> Mark
>>
>> Mark Darley
>> markdarley at mac.com
>> 415 381 5452
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 10:59 PM, liam oflaherty wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Ron,
>>> I should be there with Michelle.  It will be great to see every one.
>>> Liam
>>> 57 mga
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt"  
>>> <nobbc at sonic.net>
>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day  
>>> Tour
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes!!! Always glad to see another MGA along on a ride. Maybe we  
>>>> can  get a few more. Liam? Tim?
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>> 58 MGA
>>>>
>>>> Mark Darley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dawson,
>>>>>
>>>>> My Tyrolite green '58 MGA 1500 is now running and registered  
>>>>> (as  of this morning), and my wife, Suzanne, and I would be  
>>>>> delighted  to join you for brunch (if you still have room), and  
>>>>> the drive  after.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark Darley
>>>>> markdarley at mac.com
>>>>> Mobile Phone 415 310 5252
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:16 PM, andy preston wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dawson, this sounds like a great drive and a visit to Korbel is  
>>>>>> always fun.
>>>>>> Marla and I drove Sweetwater Springs Rd about one month ago  
>>>>>> and  it wasn't
>>>>>> too bad.  My son, John may join us so we could be 2 cars.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- bounces at autox.team.net 
>>>>>>  ] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Dawson Church
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:57 PM
>>>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>>>>> Subject: [Nobbc] Champagne! 2nd Annual NOBBC Valentine's Day Tour
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi NOBBC Friends!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We're going to have a fabulous ride on Feb 14th, and the long   
>>>>>> range weather
>>>>>> forecast suggests that the rain gods will be bypassing us that  
>>>>>> day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Korbel Champagne Cellars (a 100 + year old champagne maker in  
>>>>>> Guerneville)
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> going to host us for a private tour and champagne tasting.  
>>>>>> They   make award
>>>>>> winning Chardonnay Champagne, Pinot Champagne, and many other  
>>>>>> varieties, and
>>>>>> the history of the whole bay area wine region is displayed in   
>>>>>> their cellars.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We'll gather at my house at 10 am for coffee and croissants.   
>>>>>> We'll park in a
>>>>>> big circle, like last year, so we can photograph all the cars   
>>>>>> nose out. My
>>>>>> address is 1490 Mark West Springs Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404. The  
>>>>>> driveway is
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> your right, about 2 1/2 miles east of 101, between a big  
>>>>>> yellow   1490 mailbox
>>>>>> and a street sign that says "Michelle Way."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We'll leave around 10:30, and drive Sweetwater Springs road,  
>>>>>> one  of the most
>>>>>> gorgeous roads in the north bay. We'll stop at Armstrong Woods  
>>>>>> redwood state
>>>>>> park to stretch our legs at the end, and take a brief stroll   
>>>>>> among the giant
>>>>>> redwoods, the tallest of which is over 2,000 years old, and  
>>>>>> over   300 feet
>>>>>> high.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then we'll drive on to Korbel for a 12:30 tour and tasting.   
>>>>>> Korbel has a
>>>>>> gourmet deli at which you can purchase food, or you can bring   
>>>>>> your own.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't forget this is a great opportunity to introduce  
>>>>>> newcomers  to the club,
>>>>>> and to show off our cars at some public venues. So invite your  
>>>>>> friends to
>>>>>> ride
>>>>>> along!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See you on Sunday!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dawson
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>>>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>>>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
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From jkenner at tamcab.com  Sun Feb 14 18:39:31 2010
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 17:39:31 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
Message-ID: <002401caaddf$b989f9a0$2c9dece0$@com>

DAWSON,

 

GREAT DAY

GREAT TURN OUT

GREAT CARS

GREAT ROUTE

GREAT FUN,

 

LOOKING FORWARD TO THE 3RD ANNUAL,

 

THANKS FOR PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER AND ARRANGING FOR THE WEATHER,

 

 

JOHN KENNER

 

510 231 6803 P

415 806 2457 C

510 231 6805 F

 

 

tamalpais_s

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From rlmossholder at comcast.net  Sun Feb 14 21:44:24 2010
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 04:44:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
In-Reply-To: <002401caaddf$b989f9a0$2c9dece0$@com>
Message-ID: <48260434.3826811266209064351.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Could someone please post some photos for those of us who couldn't attend. 

Thanks, 

Rich 

From wkilch at sbcglobal.net  Sun Feb 14 21:46:40 2010
From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (Walter & Gwen Kilchherr)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:46:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
In-Reply-To: <002401caaddf$b989f9a0$2c9dece0$@com>
Message-ID: <325491.21769.qm@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Dawson,

We second that. Thanks SO much.

Walter & Gwen
Yellow Sprite
--- On Sun, 2/14/10, John Kenner <jkenner at tamcab.com> wrote:

From: John Kenner <jkenner at tamcab.com>
Subject: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 5:39 PM

DAWSON,

 

GREAT DAY

GREAT TURN OUT

GREAT CARS

GREAT ROUTE

GREAT FUN,

 

LOOKING FORWARD TO THE 3RD ANNUAL,

 

THANKS FOR PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER AND ARRANGING FOR THE WEATHER,

 

 

JOHN KENNER

 

510 231 6803 P

415 806 2457 C

510 231 6805 F

 

 

tamalpais_s

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From gsb1159 at pacbell.net  Sun Feb 14 22:44:43 2010
From: gsb1159 at pacbell.net (Greg Badano)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:44:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
In-Reply-To: <002401caaddf$b989f9a0$2c9dece0$@com>
Message-ID: <155647.46458.qm@web180004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Dawson,
 
Thank you so much for putting together a great drive and a great day.  This
was our first time out with the NOBBC and it was really nice to finally put
some faces to the names I have been reading for all of these months on the
forum posts.  What a great group of folks!  Thanks NOBBC for making Joanna and
I feel so welcome.  Look forward to seeing you again on another drive very
soon.
 
Greg & Joanna
'59 AC Aceca
 


--- On Sun, 2/14/10, John Kenner <jkenner at tamcab.com> wrote:


From: John Kenner <jkenner at tamcab.com>
Subject: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 5:39 PM


DAWSON,



GREAT DAY

GREAT TURN OUT

GREAT CARS

GREAT ROUTE

GREAT FUN,



LOOKING FORWARD TO THE 3RD ANNUAL,



THANKS FOR PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER AND ARRANGING FOR THE WEATHER,





JOHN KENNER



510 231 6803 P

415 806 2457 C

510 231 6805 F





tamalpais_s

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From nobbc at sonic.net  Mon Feb 15 00:34:41 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 23:34:41 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Photos
Message-ID: <4B78F911.6090006@sonic.net>

http://s634.photobucket.com/albums/uu66/viruschecker/Nobbc%20Valentines%20Day%202010/?action=view&current=f6bc632f.pbw

Here's a slideshow from today's epic ride. We were fortunate to have an 
interesting route and great weather. Thanks Dawson!

Ron
58 MGA

From MAEMLY at aol.com  Mon Feb 15 03:01:43 2010
From: MAEMLY at aol.com (MAEMLY at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:01:43 EST
Subject: [Nobbc] Photos
Message-ID: <6e9.6fe3d8d0.38aa7587@aol.com>

Ron 58MGA.................Thanks for a very nice photo shoot. And I  am 
sure a great time was had by all. Wish we could have been there. Maybe in the  
future. This surely is the benefit of Camaraderie......................Amy&  
Mel 79 MG Midget

From gtwincams at gmail.com  Mon Feb 15 08:35:57 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:35:57 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Thanks Dawson!
Message-ID: <4B7969DD.9010805@gmail.com>

Well, done, Dawson!
Your efforts are definitely appreciated - thanks for a great day.
Cheers,
Greg Tatarian

From rlmossholder at comcast.net  Mon Feb 15 09:10:09 2010
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:10:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] Photos
In-Reply-To: <4B78F911.6090006@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <1137671467.3924021266250209712.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Thanks for the photos Ron. That is sure some good motivation to get the Spitfire back on the road. It looks like everyone had a great time. 

Hope to see you all soon on an upcomming ride. 

Cheers, 

Rich Mossholder 

From csaul at noleak.com  Mon Feb 15 10:14:57 2010
From: csaul at noleak.com (Charlie Saul)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:14:57 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Photos
In-Reply-To: <4B78F911.6090006@sonic.net>
References: <4B78F911.6090006@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE306EA5@AQUA-DC1>

Thanks Dawson for hosting the delightful day, our first with a great
bunch of folks.

Thanks Ron for posting the fine photos.

Lori had fun, but as a passenger was white knuckling it. At every turn
she had visions of Bambi trying to cross the road.

It was a great run to shake off some unnecessary bolts and such.

Best Regards,

Charlie
52 XK 120 OTS


AQUATECH CONSULTANCY, INC.

Charles Saul
Principal

Please visit us on the web:  www.noleak.com

csaul at noleak.com
Office: (415) 884-2121, Fax: (415) 884-2443
Cell phone: (415) 377-6577

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:35 PM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: [Nobbc] Photos

http://s634.photobucket.com/albums/uu66/viruschecker/Nobbc%20Valentines%
20Day%202010/?action=view&current=f6bc632f.pbw

Here's a slideshow from today's epic ride. We were fortunate to have an
interesting route and great weather. Thanks Dawson!

Ron
58 MGA
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From tabakphoto at hotmail.com  Mon Feb 15 13:24:35 2010
From: tabakphoto at hotmail.com (Jordan Tabak)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:24:35 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
In-Reply-To: <155647.46458.qm@web180004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <002401caaddf$b989f9a0$2c9dece0$@com>,
	<155647.46458.qm@web180004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY114-W28737681B026C928933B8EDE4A0@phx.gbl>

Thanks to everyone for welcoming me to the group and showcasing not only great
cars, but great people. Dawson - I really appreciate you opening your
beautiful home, and also for setting up such a great event. I know I really
enjoyed my self and am looking forward to the next drive! And I hope I can
bring a more 'fitting' car! I have posted the photographs up on my FLICKR site
- if your interested in prints please send me an e-mail at:
tabakphoto at hotmail.com

Please visit:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jordantabak/sets/72157623317018527/


Thank you all again for such a great day and a great drive! And also just as a
reminder, I am still interested in photographing any and all of your cars for
free and I will supply you with high quality professional prints! Thanks
again!

Jordan Tabak
www.brakefadephotography.com






> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:44:43 -0800
> From: gsb1159 at pacbell.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
>
> Dawson,
>
> Thank you so much for putting together a great drive and a great day.  This
> was our first time out with the NOBBC and it was really nice to finally put
> some faces to the names I have been reading for all of these months on the
> forum posts.  What a great group of folks!  Thanks NOBBC for making Joanna
and
> I feel so welcome.  Look forward to seeing you again on another drive very
> soon.
>
> Greg & Joanna
> '59 AC Aceca
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 2/14/10, John Kenner <jkenner at tamcab.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: John Kenner <jkenner at tamcab.com>
> Subject: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 5:39 PM
>
>
> DAWSON,
>
>
>
> GREAT DAY
>
> GREAT TURN OUT
>
> GREAT CARS
>
> GREAT ROUTE
>
> GREAT FUN,
>
>
>
> LOOKING FORWARD TO THE 3RD ANNUAL,
>
>
>
> THANKS FOR PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER AND ARRANGING FOR THE WEATHER,
>
>
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
>
>
>
> 510 231 6803 P
>
> 415 806 2457 C
>
> 510 231 6805 F
>
>
>
>
>
> tamalpais_s
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of
> image001.gif]
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
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> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From Kris.Klein at sage.com  Mon Feb 15 15:20:46 2010
From: Kris.Klein at sage.com (Klein, Kris)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:20:46 -0500
Subject: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
In-Reply-To: <BAY114-W28737681B026C928933B8EDE4A0@phx.gbl>
References: <002401caaddf$b989f9a0$2c9dece0$@com>,
	<155647.46458.qm@web180004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<BAY114-W28737681B026C928933B8EDE4A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <F9D2731F2F4C4848B9636B7551511086021A5C0EFA@NAMAIL01.gs.adinternal.com>

Great pictures!  Thanks for sharing...  Our Healey had a flat and we could not
find an open tire repair shop around here in time.  Ended up just meeting up
with you folks at Korbel for the interesting tour.  Is NOBBC also on Facebook?
I just became a Facebook fan of the shop that works on my Healey, British Car
Specialists (a great shop/mechanics/parts for British cars) and was wondering
if this group is also on Facebook.  It is a good way to share pictures and
interests.
Krissy Klein
1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7


-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Jordan Tabak
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:25 PM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN

Thanks to everyone for welcoming me to the group and showcasing not only great
cars, but great people. Dawson - I really appreciate you opening your
beautiful home, and also for setting up such a great event. I know I really
enjoyed my self and am looking forward to the next drive! And I hope I can
bring a more 'fitting' car! I have posted the photographs up on my FLICKR
site
- if your interested in prints please send me an e-mail at:
tabakphoto at hotmail.com

Please visit:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jordantabak/sets/72157623317018527/


Thank you all again for such a great day and a great drive! And also just as a
reminder, I am still interested in photographing any and all of your cars for
free and I will supply you with high quality professional prints! Thanks
again!

Jordan Tabak
www.brakefadephotography.com






> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:44:43 -0800
> From: gsb1159 at pacbell.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
>
> Dawson,
>
> Thank you so much for putting together a great drive and a great day.
> This was our first time out with the NOBBC and it was really nice to
> finally put some faces to the names I have been reading for all of
> these months on the forum posts.  What a great group of folks!  Thanks
> NOBBC for making Joanna
and
> I feel so welcome.  Look forward to seeing you again on another drive
> very soon.
>
> Greg & Joanna
> '59 AC Aceca
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 2/14/10, John Kenner <jkenner at tamcab.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: John Kenner <jkenner at tamcab.com>
> Subject: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 5:39 PM
>
>
> DAWSON,
>
>
>
> GREAT DAY
>
> GREAT TURN OUT
>
> GREAT CARS
>
> GREAT ROUTE
>
> GREAT FUN,
>
>
>
> LOOKING FORWARD TO THE 3RD ANNUAL,
>
>
>
> THANKS FOR PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER AND ARRANGING FOR THE WEATHER,
>
>
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
>
>
>
> 510 231 6803 P
>
> 415 806 2457 C
>
> 510 231 6805 F
>
>
>
>
>
> tamalpais_s
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name
> of image001.gif] _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
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> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

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From sarto477 at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 15 15:48:09 2010
From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:48:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
In-Reply-To: <BAY114-W28737681B026C928933B8EDE4A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <686177.70444.qm@web113506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Jordan, great pictures!  I'll be in touch.  
Again Dawson, it was a very fine day for another one of your pleasurable
events!!
Sarto & Phyliss
--- On Mon, 2/15/10, Jordan Tabak <tabakphoto at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Jordan Tabak <tabakphoto at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 12:24 PM

Thanks to everyone for welcoming me to the group and showcasing not only
great
cars, but great people. Dawson - I really appreciate you opening your
beautiful home, and also for setting up such a great event. I know I really
enjoyed my self and am looking forward to the next drive! And I hope I can
bring a more 'fitting' car! I have posted the photographs up on my FLICKR
site
- if your interested in prints please send me an e-mail at:
tabakphoto at hotmail.com

Please visit:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jordantabak/sets/72157623317018527/


Thank you all again for such a great day and a great drive! And also just as
a
reminder, I am still interested in photographing any and all of your cars for
free and I will supply you with high quality professional prints! Thanks
again!

Jordan Tabak
www.brakefadephotography.com






> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:44:43 -0800
> From: gsb1159 at pacbell.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
>
> Dawson,
>
> Thank you so much for putting together a great drive and a great day.  This
> was our first time out with the NOBBC and it was really nice to finally put
> some faces to the names I have been reading for all of these months on the
> forum posts.  What a great group of folks!  Thanks NOBBC for making Joanna
and
> I feel so welcome.  Look forward to seeing you again on another drive very
> soon.
>
> Greg & Joanna
> '59 AC Aceca
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 2/14/10, John Kenner <jkenner at tamcab.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: John Kenner <jkenner at tamcab.com>
> Subject: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 5:39 PM
>
>
> DAWSON,
>
>
>
> GREAT DAY
>
> GREAT TURN OUT
>
> GREAT CARS
>
> GREAT ROUTE
>
> GREAT FUN,
>
>
>
> LOOKING FORWARD TO THE 3RD ANNUAL,
>
>
>
> THANKS FOR PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER AND ARRANGING FOR THE WEATHER,
>
>
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
>
>
>
> 510 231 6803 P
>
> 415 806 2457 C
>
> 510 231 6805 F
>
>
>
>
>
> tamalpais_s
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of
> image001.gif]
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

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From nobbc at sonic.net  Mon Feb 15 16:23:07 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:23:07 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
In-Reply-To: <F9D2731F2F4C4848B9636B7551511086021A5C0EFA@NAMAIL01.gs.adinternal.com>
References: <002401caaddf$b989f9a0$2c9dece0$@com>,
	<155647.46458.qm@web180004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<BAY114-W28737681B026C928933B8EDE4A0@phx.gbl>
	<F9D2731F2F4C4848B9636B7551511086021A5C0EFA@NAMAIL01.gs.adinternal.com>
Message-ID: <4B79D75B.50904@sonic.net>

Krissy, sorry about your flat. I've thought about setting up an Nobbc 
Facebook page...think I'll do it later today!

Ron
58 MGA

Klein, Kris wrote:

> Great pictures!  Thanks for sharing...  Our Healey had a flat and we could not
> find an open tire repair shop around here in time.  Ended up just meeting up
> with you folks at Korbel for the interesting tour.  Is NOBBC also on Facebook?
> I just became a Facebook fan of the shop that works on my Healey, British Car
> Specialists (a great shop/mechanics/parts for British cars) and was wondering
> if this group is also on Facebook.  It is a good way to share pictures and
> interests.
> Krissy Klein
> 1959 Austin Healey 3000 BT7
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Jordan Tabak
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:25 PM
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
> 
> Thanks to everyone for welcoming me to the group and showcasing not only great
> cars, but great people. Dawson - I really appreciate you opening your
> beautiful home, and also for setting up such a great event. I know I really
> enjoyed my self and am looking forward to the next drive! And I hope I can
> bring a more 'fitting' car! I have posted the photographs up on my FLICKR
> site
> - if your interested in prints please send me an e-mail at:
> tabakphoto at hotmail.com
> 
> Please visit:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jordantabak/sets/72157623317018527/
> 
> 
> Thank you all again for such a great day and a great drive! And also just as a
> reminder, I am still interested in photographing any and all of your cars for
> free and I will supply you with high quality professional prints! Thanks
> again!
> 
> Jordan Tabak
> www.brakefadephotography.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:44:43 -0800
>>From: gsb1159 at pacbell.net
>>To: nobbc at autox.team.net
>>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
>>
>>Dawson,
>>
>>Thank you so much for putting together a great drive and a great day.
>>This was our first time out with the NOBBC and it was really nice to
>>finally put some faces to the names I have been reading for all of
>>these months on the forum posts.  What a great group of folks!  Thanks
>>NOBBC for making Joanna
> 
> and
> 
>>I feel so welcome.  Look forward to seeing you again on another drive
>>very soon.
>>
>>Greg & Joanna
>>'59 AC Aceca
>>
>>
>>
>>--- On Sun, 2/14/10, John Kenner <jkenner at tamcab.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>From: John Kenner <jkenner at tamcab.com>
>>Subject: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
>>To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 5:39 PM
>>
>>
>>DAWSON,
>>
>>
>>
>>GREAT DAY
>>
>>GREAT TURN OUT
>>
>>GREAT CARS
>>
>>GREAT ROUTE
>>
>>GREAT FUN,
>>
>>
>>
>>LOOKING FORWARD TO THE 3RD ANNUAL,
>>
>>
>>
>>THANKS FOR PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER AND ARRANGING FOR THE WEATHER,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>JOHN KENNER
>>
>>
>>
>>510 231 6803 P
>>
>>415 806 2457 C
>>
>>510 231 6805 F
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>tamalpais_s
>>
>>[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name
>>of image001.gif] _______________________________________________
>>Nobbc mailing list
>>Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>_______________________________________________
>>Nobbc mailing list
>>Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> 
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
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From sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com  Mon Feb 15 16:48:10 2010
From: sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com (sales at mvgmoldedproducts.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:48:10 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Valentines Day Run
Message-ID: <89F70EADA8604E12BF56D0E3A260B542@mike>

Once again, I got a late start, (grand kid problems) so I was unable to het to
the Church home for the get together, looks like I missed a good one, but I
did get out to the winery for the tour and tasting. Fine wine and old cars,
that's my idea of one fine day. Might I suggest that when someone actually
heads a ride, that the route is published in advance from now on. I would have
cought up to the group along the way, as would a couple of others that I
talked to in the Korbel parking lot. Ron and Jordan, great pictures of some
beautiful cars. What's next?

Michael
64 TR4

From wbain at sonic.net  Mon Feb 15 17:47:46 2010
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:47:46 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Photos
In-Reply-To: <4B78F911.6090006@sonic.net>
References: <4B78F911.6090006@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <758F19EE-A75A-4CD4-95CC-5DCA0434B6FA@sonic.net>

Thanks Ron and thanks Dawson. Looks like a fun run.

Wendell
59 Morgan +4

On Feb 14, 2010, at 11:34 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote:

> http://s634.photobucket.com/albums/uu66/viruschecker/Nobbc% 
> 20Valentines%20Day%202010/?action=view&current=f6bc632f.pbw
>
> Here's a slideshow from today's epic ride. We were fortunate to  
> have an interesting route and great weather. Thanks Dawson!
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From nobbc at sonic.net  Mon Feb 15 18:44:07 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:44:07 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Facebook loves Nobbc
Message-ID: <4B79F867.1060901@sonic.net>

Nobbc now has a facebook group. If anyone would care to join go to 
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=300961486733. If you are not 
already a member of facebook(there may still be a few people on the face 
of the earth who aren't ;-)) you will need to sign up.

Ron
58 MGA

From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Mon Feb 15 19:04:20 2010
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:04:20 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Dawson great ride
Message-ID: <966570.37542.qm@smtp102.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Dawson, you organized a wonderful and enjoyable ride, so many thanks for
taking the time and effort to plan a great ride, tour of Korbel and also the
coffee and croissants at your house.  I didn't hear of anyone loosing their
exhaust or any other parts driving down Sweetwater Springs Rd and it was a
good shake down for Charlie with his inaugural ride.  Well done Charlie.

 

And the Coupe is just the perfect fit for you.

 

Many thanks

 

Andy and Marla

From dawson at authorspublishing.com  Mon Feb 15 19:08:41 2010
From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:08:41 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Dawson great ride
In-Reply-To: <966570.37542.qm@smtp102.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <966570.37542.qm@smtp102.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8904BCB1-804B-43BF-B152-21A85D3ED844@authorspublishing.com>

Thanks! What a great day!

Dawson



On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:04 PM, andy preston wrote:

> Dawson, you organized a wonderful and enjoyable ride, so many thanks for
> taking the time and effort to plan a great ride, tour of Korbel and also
the
> coffee and croissants at your house.  I didn't hear of anyone loosing their
> exhaust or any other parts driving down Sweetwater Springs Rd and it was a
> good shake down for Charlie with his inaugural ride.  Well done Charlie.
>
>
>
> And the Coupe is just the perfect fit for you.
>
>
>
> Many thanks
>
>
>
> Andy and Marla
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From liamof at earthlink.net  Mon Feb 15 20:59:13 2010
From: liamof at earthlink.net (liam oflaherty)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:59:13 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Dawson great ride
References: <966570.37542.qm@smtp102.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<8904BCB1-804B-43BF-B152-21A85D3ED844@authorspublishing.com>
Message-ID: <001a01caaebc$6c6196a0$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21>

Thanks Dawson for putting on such a great trip for V day. Michelle and I 
totally enjoyed ourselves.  I really liked the old rusty bridge on 
sweetwater road.  It was sort of a time warp with all our old cars. It was 
also great to see 4 mga's out there and I didn't hear if we lost anyone due 
to car problems in route.
Liam
the white 57 mga
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dawson Church" <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Dawson great ride


> Thanks! What a great day!
>
> Dawson
>
>
>
> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:04 PM, andy preston wrote:
>
>> Dawson, you organized a wonderful and enjoyable ride, so many thanks for
>> taking the time and effort to plan a great ride, tour of Korbel and also
> the
>> coffee and croissants at your house.  I didn't hear of anyone loosing 
>> their
>> exhaust or any other parts driving down Sweetwater Springs Rd and it was 
>> a
>> good shake down for Charlie with his inaugural ride.  Well done Charlie.
>>
>>
>>
>> And the Coupe is just the perfect fit for you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Andy and Marla
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
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> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From home at drummondlaw.com  Mon Feb 15 22:08:40 2010
From: home at drummondlaw.com (Dan)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:08:40 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Dawson great ride
In-Reply-To: <8904BCB1-804B-43BF-B152-21A85D3ED844@authorspublishing.com>
References: <966570.37542.qm@smtp102.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<8904BCB1-804B-43BF-B152-21A85D3ED844@authorspublishing.com>
Message-ID: <3B0F811F8ABF4B6190037081F8E61016@dandebbie>

Dawson,

Let me add my name to the list and thank you again for putting together a
great outing.  Thanks for opening up your home and making the day a great
one.

Dan
66 MGB

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Dawson Church
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:09 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Dawson great ride

Thanks! What a great day!

Dawson



On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:04 PM, andy preston wrote:

> Dawson, you organized a wonderful and enjoyable ride, so many thanks for
> taking the time and effort to plan a great ride, tour of Korbel and also
the
> coffee and croissants at your house.  I didn't hear of anyone loosing
their
> exhaust or any other parts driving down Sweetwater Springs Rd and it was a
> good shake down for Charlie with his inaugural ride.  Well done Charlie.
>
>
>
> And the Coupe is just the perfect fit for you.
>
>
>
> Many thanks
>
>
>
> Andy and Marla
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From gsb1159 at pacbell.net  Mon Feb 15 22:15:57 2010
From: gsb1159 at pacbell.net (Greg Badano)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:15:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
In-Reply-To: <BAY114-W28737681B026C928933B8EDE4A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <990934.80912.qm@web180002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Ron and Jordan,
 
Thanks so much for the great photos of a fantastic day.
 
Best,
 
Greg
'59 AC Aceca

--- On Mon, 2/15/10, Jordan Tabak <tabakphoto at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Jordan Tabak <tabakphoto at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 12:24 PM


Thanks to everyone for welcoming me to the group and showcasing not only
great
cars, but great people. Dawson - I really appreciate you opening your
beautiful home, and also for setting up such a great event. I know I really
enjoyed my self and am looking forward to the next drive! And I hope I can
bring a more 'fitting' car! I have posted the photographs up on my FLICKR
site
- if your interested in prints please send me an e-mail at:
tabakphoto at hotmail.com

Please visit:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jordantabak/sets/72157623317018527/


Thank you all again for such a great day and a great drive! And also just as
a
reminder, I am still interested in photographing any and all of your cars for
free and I will supply you with high quality professional prints! Thanks
again!

Jordan Tabak
www.brakefadephotography.com






> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:44:43 -0800
> From: gsb1159 at pacbell.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
>
> Dawson,
>
> Thank you so much for putting together a great drive and a great day.  This
> was our first time out with the NOBBC and it was really nice to finally put
> some faces to the names I have been reading for all of these months on the
> forum posts.  What a great group of folks!  Thanks NOBBC for making Joanna
and
> I feel so welcome.  Look forward to seeing you again on another drive very
> soon.
>
> Greg & Joanna
> '59 AC Aceca
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 2/14/10, John Kenner <jkenner at tamcab.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: John Kenner <jkenner at tamcab.com>
> Subject: [Nobbc] GREAT FUN
> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 5:39 PM
>
>
> DAWSON,
>
>
>
> GREAT DAY
>
> GREAT TURN OUT
>
> GREAT CARS
>
> GREAT ROUTE
>
> GREAT FUN,
>
>
>
> LOOKING FORWARD TO THE 3RD ANNUAL,
>
>
>
> THANKS FOR PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER AND ARRANGING FOR THE WEATHER,
>
>
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
>
>
>
> 510 231 6803 P
>
> 415 806 2457 C
>
> 510 231 6805 F
>
>
>
>
>
> tamalpais_s
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of
> image001.gif]
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From markdarley at mac.com  Mon Feb 15 23:35:10 2010
From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:35:10 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Dawson great ride
In-Reply-To: <001a01caaebc$6c6196a0$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21>
References: <966570.37542.qm@smtp102.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<8904BCB1-804B-43BF-B152-21A85D3ED844@authorspublishing.com>
	<001a01caaebc$6c6196a0$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21>
Message-ID: <A805E0AF-BA18-49A3-892B-342A053318C3@mac.com>

Dawson,

Sorry Suzanne and I missed your brunch, but it was almost worth it  
just to see the cars streaming out of your driveway as we arrived.   
The drive was an interesting mix of beautiful landscape and (for a car  
that had only been out two days in 27 years) a true test drive.   
Mostly I was a bit concerned for Andy's beautiful paint job as we  
tossed gravel at him.

After the great tasting and good company we had a really splendid  
drive west, and then down the coast and over the mountain to Mill  
Valley...exactly what the car was built for.  Thanks to the timely  
addition of two, yes, two quarts of oil at the Stinson Beach store, we  
made it home!

Thanks for a great day.  Hope to see you all again.

The mad but original colored Tyrolite MGA!

Mark and Suzanne

Mark Darley
markdarley at mac.com
415 381 5452



On Feb 15, 2010, at 7:59 PM, liam oflaherty wrote:

> Thanks Dawson for putting on such a great trip for V day. Michelle  
> and I totally enjoyed ourselves.  I really liked the old rusty  
> bridge on sweetwater road.  It was sort of a time warp with all our  
> old cars. It was also great to see 4 mga's out there and I didn't  
> hear if we lost anyone due to car problems in route.
> Liam
> the white 57 mga
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawson Church" <dawson at authorspublishing.com 
> >
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Dawson great ride
>
>
>> Thanks! What a great day!
>>
>> Dawson
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:04 PM, andy preston wrote:
>>
>>> Dawson, you organized a wonderful and enjoyable ride, so many  
>>> thanks for
>>> taking the time and effort to plan a great ride, tour of Korbel  
>>> and also
>> the
>>> coffee and croissants at your house.  I didn't hear of anyone  
>>> loosing their
>>> exhaust or any other parts driving down Sweetwater Springs Rd and  
>>> it was a
>>> good shake down for Charlie with his inaugural ride.  Well done  
>>> Charlie.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And the Coupe is just the perfect fit for you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Many thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy and Marla
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From gtwincams at gmail.com  Tue Feb 16 08:39:21 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 07:39:21 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
Message-ID: <4B7ABC29.5090208@gmail.com>

Hi All,

Sounds like we all enjoyed ourselves last Sunday. Now would be a great 
time for another member to put together our next great drive - anyone 
want to give some thought to routes and destinations over the next few 
months?

I'm willing to put on another tech session, and am currently working on 
an Alfa Romeo gearbox and have another Lotus/Ford gearbox that I'll be 
stripping open to inspect and rebuild. We had several members show up 
for my first gearbox tech session - are there any members who would like 
a refresher, or new members who would like to attend? Though these 
aren't MG, Triumph or Jag 'boxes, the principles are similar, and I know 
many of us may have worked on motors but not gearboxes, so perhaps you 
will find this of interest. As an added kick, if someone would like to 
present some useful technical information/training on another aspect 
during the same day, we could present these concurrently to appeal to a 
wider cross-section of members. Robin - feel like doing some rolling 
troubleshooting?

This would be held at our house in Santa Rosa, using our garage and 
driveway (sorry - we don't have a country estate like John Kenner) and 
we could combine it with a BBQ lunch if that sounds good. I'm thinking 
of sometime in April, and will firm up a date when/if I hear of enough 
interest.

Cheers,
Greg Tatarian
1974 TR6
1971 Lotus Elan S4 DHC
1974 Alfa Romeo GTV2000
Tools

From Mariner at sutterhealth.org  Tue Feb 16 08:53:06 2010
From: Mariner at sutterhealth.org (Marinelli, Ronald J)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 07:53:06 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Dawson great ride
In-Reply-To: <8904BCB1-804B-43BF-B152-21A85D3ED844@authorspublishing.com>
References: <966570.37542.qm@smtp102.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<8904BCB1-804B-43BF-B152-21A85D3ED844@authorspublishing.com>
Message-ID: <A36B91F0697B9943BF614E1CA0970D5B01833BD8@DCSH19VX.root.sutterhealth.org>

Dawson,

Thanks for your wonderful hospitality.  What an event!

Ron & Irene Marinelli

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Dawson Church
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:09 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Dawson great ride

Thanks! What a great day!

Dawson



On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:04 PM, andy preston wrote:

> Dawson, you organized a wonderful and enjoyable ride, so many thanks
> for taking the time and effort to plan a great ride, tour of Korbel
> and also
the
> coffee and croissants at your house.  I didn't hear of anyone loosing
> their exhaust or any other parts driving down Sweetwater Springs Rd
> and it was a good shake down for Charlie with his inaugural ride.
Well done Charlie.
>
>
>
> And the Coupe is just the perfect fit for you.
>
>
>
> Many thanks
>
>
>
> Andy and Marla
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From rlmossholder at comcast.net  Tue Feb 16 09:29:32 2010
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:29:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
In-Reply-To: <4B7ABC29.5090208@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <806098990.4376271266337772412.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Hi Greg,

I would love to attend a gearbox tech course, IB am in the process of
rebuldingB my Triumph OD box and could use some pointers. I am also rebuilding
the engine, and a suspension upgrade.

Cheers,

Rich

71 Spitfire

From mvg1 at verizon.net  Tue Feb 16 09:49:01 2010
From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:49:01 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
References: <4B7ABC29.5090208@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <36B0DDAA4E59441C98EAD2E19DDB3EFA@mike>

Hi Greg,

I would like to attend your tech session, as I'm getting ready to do the 
tranny in my TR. Count me in

Michael
64 TR4
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Tatarian" <gtwincams at gmail.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:39 AM
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?


> Hi All,
>
> Sounds like we all enjoyed ourselves last Sunday. Now would be a great 
> time for another member to put together our next great drive - anyone want 
> to give some thought to routes and destinations over the next few months?
>
> I'm willing to put on another tech session, and am currently working on an 
> Alfa Romeo gearbox and have another Lotus/Ford gearbox that I'll be 
> stripping open to inspect and rebuild. We had several members show up for 
> my first gearbox tech session - are there any members who would like a 
> refresher, or new members who would like to attend? Though these aren't 
> MG, Triumph or Jag 'boxes, the principles are similar, and I know many of 
> us may have worked on motors but not gearboxes, so perhaps you will find 
> this of interest. As an added kick, if someone would like to present some 
> useful technical information/training on another aspect during the same 
> day, we could present these concurrently to appeal to a wider 
> cross-section of members. Robin - feel like doing some rolling 
> troubleshooting?
>
> This would be held at our house in Santa Rosa, using our garage and 
> driveway (sorry - we don't have a country estate like John Kenner) and we 
> could combine it with a BBQ lunch if that sounds good. I'm thinking of 
> sometime in April, and will firm up a date when/if I hear of enough 
> interest.
>
> Cheers,
> Greg Tatarian
> 1974 TR6
> 1971 Lotus Elan S4 DHC
> 1974 Alfa Romeo GTV2000
> Tools
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc 

From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Tue Feb 16 11:47:51 2010
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:47:51 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
In-Reply-To: <4B7ABC29.5090208@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Greg, I think that tech sessions are great and a wonderful way to get people
together.  You can count me in; I've rebuilt a couple of MG gearboxes myself
and have a couple of spare ones that I practice on.

Another good tech session would be a tune up on a car.  Replace/adjust the
points, rotor, condenser.  Check the plug wires.  Set the static timing and
then the dynamic timing.  Adjust the carbs, etc.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:39 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?

Hi All,

Sounds like we all enjoyed ourselves last Sunday. Now would be a great 
time for another member to put together our next great drive - anyone 
want to give some thought to routes and destinations over the next few 
months?

I'm willing to put on another tech session, and am currently working on 
an Alfa Romeo gearbox and have another Lotus/Ford gearbox that I'll be 
stripping open to inspect and rebuild. We had several members show up 
for my first gearbox tech session - are there any members who would like 
a refresher, or new members who would like to attend? Though these 
aren't MG, Triumph or Jag 'boxes, the principles are similar, and I know 
many of us may have worked on motors but not gearboxes, so perhaps you 
will find this of interest. As an added kick, if someone would like to 
present some useful technical information/training on another aspect 
during the same day, we could present these concurrently to appeal to a 
wider cross-section of members. Robin - feel like doing some rolling 
troubleshooting?

This would be held at our house in Santa Rosa, using our garage and 
driveway (sorry - we don't have a country estate like John Kenner) and 
we could combine it with a BBQ lunch if that sounds good. I'm thinking 
of sometime in April, and will firm up a date when/if I hear of enough 
interest.

Cheers,
Greg Tatarian
1974 TR6
1971 Lotus Elan S4 DHC
1974 Alfa Romeo GTV2000
Tools
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From mvg1 at verizon.net  Tue Feb 16 12:21:16 2010
From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:21:16 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
References: <355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <69250C5B005D46B08412655577AFFD27@mike>

Here Here,

If you want to go over tune ups, please do. My TR4 runs OK from when I 
brought her to life last year, but she's not quite right. I was 
contemplating taking her to a shop down the street from me very soon., but I 
might reconsider if we did a tech session on tune ups. I've also been 
thinking of installing the Pertronics replacement points, but I've heard too 
many negative comments, a tune up session might help to quall these fears as 
well.

Michael
64 TR4

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "andy preston" <andypreston at sbcglobal.net>
To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?


> Greg, I think that tech sessions are great and a wonderful way to get 
> people
> together.  You can count me in; I've rebuilt a couple of MG gearboxes 
> myself
> and have a couple of spare ones that I practice on.
>
> Another good tech session would be a tune up on a car.  Replace/adjust the
> points, rotor, condenser.  Check the plug wires.  Set the static timing 
> and
> then the dynamic timing.  Adjust the carbs, etc.
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] 
> On
> Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:39 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
>
> Hi All,
>
> Sounds like we all enjoyed ourselves last Sunday. Now would be a great
> time for another member to put together our next great drive - anyone
> want to give some thought to routes and destinations over the next few
> months?
>
> I'm willing to put on another tech session, and am currently working on
> an Alfa Romeo gearbox and have another Lotus/Ford gearbox that I'll be
> stripping open to inspect and rebuild. We had several members show up
> for my first gearbox tech session - are there any members who would like
> a refresher, or new members who would like to attend? Though these
> aren't MG, Triumph or Jag 'boxes, the principles are similar, and I know
> many of us may have worked on motors but not gearboxes, so perhaps you
> will find this of interest. As an added kick, if someone would like to
> present some useful technical information/training on another aspect
> during the same day, we could present these concurrently to appeal to a
> wider cross-section of members. Robin - feel like doing some rolling
> troubleshooting?
>
> This would be held at our house in Santa Rosa, using our garage and
> driveway (sorry - we don't have a country estate like John Kenner) and
> we could combine it with a BBQ lunch if that sounds good. I'm thinking
> of sometime in April, and will firm up a date when/if I hear of enough
> interest.
>
> Cheers,
> Greg Tatarian
> 1974 TR6
> 1971 Lotus Elan S4 DHC
> 1974 Alfa Romeo GTV2000
> Tools
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc 

From home at drummondlaw.com  Tue Feb 16 12:23:31 2010
From: home at drummondlaw.com (Dan)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:23:31 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
In-Reply-To: <355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <4B7ABC29.5090208@gmail.com>
	<355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <05D7233736144661A4BAFFE6EC322E6E@dandebbie>

I echo Andy's comments.  A tech session on some of the more routine
maintenance items would be great.  That's more within my capabilities.

Greg, Count me in for your gearbox rebuilding session, although it's pretty
unlikely I will ever undertake such an endeavor.  Still, it's good to know
what's going on even if one doesn't do the work himself (or herself).

Dan
66MGB

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of andy preston
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:48 AM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?

Greg, I think that tech sessions are great and a wonderful way to get people
together.  You can count me in; I've rebuilt a couple of MG gearboxes myself
and have a couple of spare ones that I practice on.

Another good tech session would be a tune up on a car.  Replace/adjust the
points, rotor, condenser.  Check the plug wires.  Set the static timing and
then the dynamic timing.  Adjust the carbs, etc.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:39 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?

Hi All,

Sounds like we all enjoyed ourselves last Sunday. Now would be a great 
time for another member to put together our next great drive - anyone 
want to give some thought to routes and destinations over the next few 
months?

I'm willing to put on another tech session, and am currently working on 
an Alfa Romeo gearbox and have another Lotus/Ford gearbox that I'll be 
stripping open to inspect and rebuild. We had several members show up 
for my first gearbox tech session - are there any members who would like 
a refresher, or new members who would like to attend? Though these 
aren't MG, Triumph or Jag 'boxes, the principles are similar, and I know 
many of us may have worked on motors but not gearboxes, so perhaps you 
will find this of interest. As an added kick, if someone would like to 
present some useful technical information/training on another aspect 
during the same day, we could present these concurrently to appeal to a 
wider cross-section of members. Robin - feel like doing some rolling 
troubleshooting?

This would be held at our house in Santa Rosa, using our garage and 
driveway (sorry - we don't have a country estate like John Kenner) and 
we could combine it with a BBQ lunch if that sounds good. I'm thinking 
of sometime in April, and will firm up a date when/if I hear of enough 
interest.

Cheers,
Greg Tatarian
1974 TR6
1971 Lotus Elan S4 DHC
1974 Alfa Romeo GTV2000
Tools
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
_______________________________________________
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Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From gtwincams at gmail.com  Tue Feb 16 13:08:02 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:08:02 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
In-Reply-To: <05D7233736144661A4BAFFE6EC322E6E@dandebbie>
References: <4B7ABC29.5090208@gmail.com>
	<355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<05D7233736144661A4BAFFE6EC322E6E@dandebbie>
Message-ID: <4B7AFB22.2050707@gmail.com>

Hi Dan,
Yes, it's true not everyone can get a lot of use from a gearbox session, 
but that's what I'm currently doing, so it's a good fit for me right 
now. However, it's also a nice chance to chat with members, and it's 
also why I suggested a concurrent session that can be handled by another 
member; I can join in on if my tech session is briefer than say a tuneup 
session or electronic ignition swap session, both of which are great ideas!
So, here's what I'm thinking:
I'll set up my garage for a gearbox session that could take say, 1 hour. 
Concurrently, another member, perhaps Andy or Robin, maybe both if 
willing, can be handling a tuneup session, or ignition conversion 
session in my driveway, which can fit two cars at a time. After my 
gearbox spiel, I can join in on the tuneup/ignition gig.
If there is another session other than tuneup/ignition that people have 
more interest in, let's kick that around now.
Andy - if you'd like to bring over an open or partially open MG gearbox, 
I can use that to show the differences/similarities to the boxes I'll be 
using.
How does this sound? Keep your suggestions flowing - I'm all for making 
this whatever you want it to be. The one constant should, I think, be 
that we leave time for socializing and a BBQ.
Cheers,
Greg Tatarian


On 2/16/2010 11:23 AM, Dan wrote:
> I echo Andy's comments.  A tech session on some of the more routine
> maintenance items would be great.  That's more within my capabilities.
>
> Greg, Count me in for your gearbox rebuilding session, although it's pretty
> unlikely I will ever undertake such an endeavor.  Still, it's good to know
> what's going on even if one doesn't do the work himself (or herself).
>
> Dan
> 66MGB
>
> -

From nobbc at sonic.net  Tue Feb 16 13:19:10 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:19:10 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
In-Reply-To: <69250C5B005D46B08412655577AFFD27@mike>
References: <355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<69250C5B005D46B08412655577AFFD27@mike>
Message-ID: <4B7AFDBE.7080500@sonic.net>

@Mike, I have had zero problems with the Pertronix. The car runs much 
better with it than with points. What kind of negative things have you 
heard?

@Greg, By all means let's have some more tech sessions, great no matter 
what your level of mechanical expertise is. The trip to the machine shop 
was one of our most interesting events! I'm not sure how one could own a 
British car, drive them as we do and NOT work on it ;-)

Ron
58 MGA

Mike Gianandrea wrote:

> Here Here,
> 
> If you want to go over tune ups, please do. My TR4 runs OK from when I 
> brought her to life last year, but she's not quite right. I was 
> contemplating taking her to a shop down the street from me very soon., 
> but I might reconsider if we did a tech session on tune ups. I've also 
> been thinking of installing the Pertronics replacement points, but I've 
> heard too many negative comments, a tune up session might help to quall 
> these fears as well.
> 
> Michael
> 64 TR4
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy preston" 
> <andypreston at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
> 
> 
>> Greg, I think that tech sessions are great and a wonderful way to get 
>> people
>> together.  You can count me in; I've rebuilt a couple of MG gearboxes 
>> myself
>> and have a couple of spare ones that I practice on.
>>
>> Another good tech session would be a tune up on a car.  Replace/adjust 
>> the
>> points, rotor, condenser.  Check the plug wires.  Set the static 
>> timing and
>> then the dynamic timing.  Adjust the carbs, etc.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net 
>> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
>> Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:39 AM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Sounds like we all enjoyed ourselves last Sunday. Now would be a great
>> time for another member to put together our next great drive - anyone
>> want to give some thought to routes and destinations over the next few
>> months?
>>
>> I'm willing to put on another tech session, and am currently working on
>> an Alfa Romeo gearbox and have another Lotus/Ford gearbox that I'll be
>> stripping open to inspect and rebuild. We had several members show up
>> for my first gearbox tech session - are there any members who would like
>> a refresher, or new members who would like to attend? Though these
>> aren't MG, Triumph or Jag 'boxes, the principles are similar, and I know
>> many of us may have worked on motors but not gearboxes, so perhaps you
>> will find this of interest. As an added kick, if someone would like to
>> present some useful technical information/training on another aspect
>> during the same day, we could present these concurrently to appeal to a
>> wider cross-section of members. Robin - feel like doing some rolling
>> troubleshooting?
>>
>> This would be held at our house in Santa Rosa, using our garage and
>> driveway (sorry - we don't have a country estate like John Kenner) and
>> we could combine it with a BBQ lunch if that sounds good. I'm thinking
>> of sometime in April, and will firm up a date when/if I hear of enough
>> interest.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Greg Tatarian
>> 1974 TR6
>> 1971 Lotus Elan S4 DHC
>> 1974 Alfa Romeo GTV2000
>> Tools
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc 
> 
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From gsb1159 at pacbell.net  Tue Feb 16 13:44:24 2010
From: gsb1159 at pacbell.net (Greg Badano)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:44:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
In-Reply-To: <4B7AFB22.2050707@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <908191.38990.qm@web180003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Greg,
 
I really like the idea of these tech sessions and appreciate the willingness
of you and other members to share their skills and knowledge.  Have to say I'm
in Dan's camp in that I would likely never take on a transmission rebuild but
would love to have a better understanding of how they work.  A concurrent
session sounds like a great idea.
 
Thanks!
 
Greg

--- On Tue, 2/16/10, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 12:08 PM


Hi Dan,
Yes, it's true not everyone can get a lot of use from a gearbox session, but
that's what I'm currently doing, so it's a good fit for me right now. However,
it's also a nice chance to chat with members, and it's also why I suggested a
concurrent session that can be handled by another member; I can join in on if
my tech session is briefer than say a tuneup session or electronic ignition
swap session, both of which are great ideas!
So, here's what I'm thinking:
I'll set up my garage for a gearbox session that could take say, 1 hour.
Concurrently, another member, perhaps Andy or Robin, maybe both if willing,
can be handling a tuneup session, or ignition conversion session in my
driveway, which can fit two cars at a time. After my gearbox spiel, I can join
in on the tuneup/ignition gig.
If there is another session other than tuneup/ignition that people have more
interest in, let's kick that around now.
Andy - if you'd like to bring over an open or partially open MG gearbox, I can
use that to show the differences/similarities to the boxes I'll be using.
How does this sound? Keep your suggestions flowing - I'm all for making this
whatever you want it to be. The one constant should, I think, be that we leave
time for socializing and a BBQ.
Cheers,
Greg Tatarian


On 2/16/2010 11:23 AM, Dan wrote:
> I echo Andy's comments.  A tech session on some of the more routine
> maintenance items would be great.  That's more within my capabilities.
>
> Greg, Count me in for your gearbox rebuilding session, although it's pretty
> unlikely I will ever undertake such an endeavor.  Still, it's good to know
> what's going on even if one doesn't do the work himself (or herself).
>
> Dan
> 66MGB
>
> -
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From tabakphoto at hotmail.com  Tue Feb 16 14:29:22 2010
From: tabakphoto at hotmail.com (Jordan Tabak)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:29:22 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
In-Reply-To: <908191.38990.qm@web180003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <4B7AFB22.2050707@gmail.com>,
	<908191.38990.qm@web180003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY114-W105EF1848E57E5E96C0E60DE490@phx.gbl>

Greg -
Count me in as well for the gear box session. I would love to grow my
knowledge past the basics of "tinckering" around with motors. Thanks for
setting it up
Jordan Tabak



> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:44:24 -0800
> From: gsb1159 at pacbell.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> I really like the idea of these tech sessions and appreciate the
willingness
> of you and other members to share their skills and knowledge.  Have to say
I'm
> in Dan's camp in that I would likely never take on a transmission rebuild
but
> would love to have a better understanding of how they work.  A concurrent
> session sounds like a great idea.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg
>
> --- On Tue, 2/16/10, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 12:08 PM
>
>
> Hi Dan,
> Yes, it's true not everyone can get a lot of use from a gearbox session,
but
> that's what I'm currently doing, so it's a good fit for me right now.
However,
> it's also a nice chance to chat with members, and it's also why I suggested
a
> concurrent session that can be handled by another member; I can join in on
if
> my tech session is briefer than say a tuneup session or electronic ignition
> swap session, both of which are great ideas!
> So, here's what I'm thinking:
> I'll set up my garage for a gearbox session that could take say, 1 hour.
> Concurrently, another member, perhaps Andy or Robin, maybe both if willing,
> can be handling a tuneup session, or ignition conversion session in my
> driveway, which can fit two cars at a time. After my gearbox spiel, I can
join
> in on the tuneup/ignition gig.
> If there is another session other than tuneup/ignition that people have
more
> interest in, let's kick that around now.
> Andy - if you'd like to bring over an open or partially open MG gearbox, I
can
> use that to show the differences/similarities to the boxes I'll be using.
> How does this sound? Keep your suggestions flowing - I'm all for making
this
> whatever you want it to be. The one constant should, I think, be that we
leave
> time for socializing and a BBQ.
> Cheers,
> Greg Tatarian
>
>
> On 2/16/2010 11:23 AM, Dan wrote:
> > I echo Andy's comments.  A tech session on some of the more routine
> > maintenance items would be great.  That's more within my capabilities.
> >
> > Greg, Count me in for your gearbox rebuilding session, although it's
pretty
> > unlikely I will ever undertake such an endeavor.  Still, it's good to
know
> > what's going on even if one doesn't do the work himself (or herself).
> >
> > Dan
> > 66MGB
> >
> > -
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
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> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From jonvet at sonic.net  Tue Feb 16 14:39:33 2010
From: jonvet at sonic.net (John Vetrano)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 13:39:33 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Jag Help!
Message-ID: <C7A05097.180A%jonvet@sonic.net>


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From randysmga at gmail.com  Tue Feb 16 15:11:52 2010
From: randysmga at gmail.com (Randy Myers)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:11:52 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
In-Reply-To: <69250C5B005D46B08412655577AFFD27@mike>
References: <355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<69250C5B005D46B08412655577AFFD27@mike>
Message-ID: <9096c7991002161411q6572c60bl9cf46f2b17f00bd0@mail.gmail.com>

Mike,

I, too, would be interested in attending a tech session involving tune up
info. My mga probably needs to have its valves adjusted and I'm a little
rusty about the procedure.   Also, I have had a pertronics system in my mga
for 6 years and it has performed flawlessly during that time.

Randy Myers
'59 Mga
Santa Rosa, CA


On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at verizon.net> wrote:

> Here Here,
>
> If you want to go over tune ups, please do. My TR4 runs OK from when I
> brought her to life last year, but she's not quite right. I was
> contemplating taking her to a shop down the street from me very soon., but I
> might reconsider if we did a tech session on tune ups. I've also been
> thinking of installing the Pertronics replacement points, but I've heard too
> many negative comments, a tune up session might help to quall these fears as
> well.
>
> Michael
> 64 TR4
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy preston" <
> andypreston at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
>
>
>  Greg, I think that tech sessions are great and a wonderful way to get
>> people
>> together.  You can count me in; I've rebuilt a couple of MG gearboxes
>> myself
>> and have a couple of spare ones that I practice on.
>>
>> Another good tech session would be a tune up on a car.  Replace/adjust the
>> points, rotor, condenser.  Check the plug wires.  Set the static timing
>> and
>> then the dynamic timing.  Adjust the carbs, etc.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:39 AM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Sounds like we all enjoyed ourselves last Sunday. Now would be a great
>> time for another member to put together our next great drive - anyone
>> want to give some thought to routes and destinations over the next few
>> months?
>>
>> I'm willing to put on another tech session, and am currently working on
>> an Alfa Romeo gearbox and have another Lotus/Ford gearbox that I'll be
>> stripping open to inspect and rebuild. We had several members show up
>> for my first gearbox tech session - are there any members who would like
>> a refresher, or new members who would like to attend? Though these
>> aren't MG, Triumph or Jag 'boxes, the principles are similar, and I know
>> many of us may have worked on motors but not gearboxes, so perhaps you
>> will find this of interest. As an added kick, if someone would like to
>> present some useful technical information/training on another aspect
>> during the same day, we could present these concurrently to appeal to a
>> wider cross-section of members. Robin - feel like doing some rolling
>> troubleshooting?
>>
>> This would be held at our house in Santa Rosa, using our garage and
>> driveway (sorry - we don't have a country estate like John Kenner) and
>> we could combine it with a BBQ lunch if that sounds good. I'm thinking
>> of sometime in April, and will firm up a date when/if I hear of enough
>> interest.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Greg Tatarian
>> 1974 TR6
>> 1971 Lotus Elan S4 DHC
>> 1974 Alfa Romeo GTV2000
>> Tools
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>



-- 
Randy

From markdarley at mac.com  Tue Feb 16 15:45:49 2010
From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:45:49 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
In-Reply-To: <9096c7991002161411q6572c60bl9cf46f2b17f00bd0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<69250C5B005D46B08412655577AFFD27@mike>
	<9096c7991002161411q6572c60bl9cf46f2b17f00bd0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C77F8149-6782-49FD-BE51-9BC58E2E9F83@mac.com>

I will appreciate any instruction I can get!
58 MGA
Mill Valley

Mark Darley
markdarley at mac.com
Mobile Phone 415 310 5252



On Feb 16, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Randy Myers wrote:

> Mike,
>
> I, too, would be interested in attending a tech session involving  
> tune up
> info. My mga probably needs to have its valves adjusted and I'm a  
> little
> rusty about the procedure.   Also, I have had a pertronics system  
> in my mga
> for 6 years and it has performed flawlessly during that time.
>
> Randy Myers
> '59 Mga
> Santa Rosa, CA
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Mike Gianandrea  
> <mvg1 at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Here Here,
>>
>> If you want to go over tune ups, please do. My TR4 runs OK from  
>> when I
>> brought her to life last year, but she's not quite right. I was
>> contemplating taking her to a shop down the street from me very  
>> soon., but I
>> might reconsider if we did a tech session on tune ups. I've also been
>> thinking of installing the Pertronics replacement points, but I've  
>> heard too
>> many negative comments, a tune up session might help to quall  
>> these fears as
>> well.
>>
>> Michael
>> 64 TR4
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy preston" <
>> andypreston at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:47 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
>>
>>
>>  Greg, I think that tech sessions are great and a wonderful way to  
>> get
>>> people
>>> together.  You can count me in; I've rebuilt a couple of MG  
>>> gearboxes
>>> myself
>>> and have a couple of spare ones that I practice on.
>>>
>>> Another good tech session would be a tune up on a car.  Replace/ 
>>> adjust the
>>> points, rotor, condenser.  Check the plug wires.  Set the static  
>>> timing
>>> and
>>> then the dynamic timing.  Adjust the carbs, etc.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- 
>>> bounces at autox.team.net]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:39 AM
>>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>> Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Sounds like we all enjoyed ourselves last Sunday. Now would be a  
>>> great
>>> time for another member to put together our next great drive -  
>>> anyone
>>> want to give some thought to routes and destinations over the  
>>> next few
>>> months?
>>>
>>> I'm willing to put on another tech session, and am currently  
>>> working on
>>> an Alfa Romeo gearbox and have another Lotus/Ford gearbox that  
>>> I'll be
>>> stripping open to inspect and rebuild. We had several members  
>>> show up
>>> for my first gearbox tech session - are there any members who  
>>> would like
>>> a refresher, or new members who would like to attend? Though these
>>> aren't MG, Triumph or Jag 'boxes, the principles are similar, and  
>>> I know
>>> many of us may have worked on motors but not gearboxes, so  
>>> perhaps you
>>> will find this of interest. As an added kick, if someone would  
>>> like to
>>> present some useful technical information/training on another aspect
>>> during the same day, we could present these concurrently to  
>>> appeal to a
>>> wider cross-section of members. Robin - feel like doing some rolling
>>> troubleshooting?
>>>
>>> This would be held at our house in Santa Rosa, using our garage and
>>> driveway (sorry - we don't have a country estate like John  
>>> Kenner) and
>>> we could combine it with a BBQ lunch if that sounds good. I'm  
>>> thinking
>>> of sometime in April, and will firm up a date when/if I hear of  
>>> enough
>>> interest.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Greg Tatarian
>>> 1974 TR6
>>> 1971 Lotus Elan S4 DHC
>>> 1974 Alfa Romeo GTV2000
>>> Tools
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Randy
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> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From tsthresh at hotmail.com  Tue Feb 16 15:53:49 2010
From: tsthresh at hotmail.com (TIM THRESH)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:53:49 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
In-Reply-To: <69250C5B005D46B08412655577AFFD27@mike>
References: <355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,
	<69250C5B005D46B08412655577AFFD27@mike>
Message-ID: <BAY126-W204EC4EB5DC17CCDCDDD7CD8490@phx.gbl>

I installed Pertronix replacement inside the existing Lucas distributor- easy
to do. It makes a great difference to high end revs, and zero points wear(=no
adjustments).



After that tune-ups seem to be all about timing, valves and mixture. The issue
may be in what order!



Robin used to do all this stuff for his business, so should be ideal to run a
session??



Tim Thresh

1958 MGA

> From: mvg1 at verizon.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:21:16 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
>
> Here Here,
>
> If you want to go over tune ups, please do. My TR4 runs OK from when I
> brought her to life last year, but she's not quite right. I was
> contemplating taking her to a shop down the street from me very soon., but I
> might reconsider if we did a tech session on tune ups. I've also been
> thinking of installing the Pertronics replacement points, but I've heard too
> many negative comments, a tune up session might help to quall these fears as
> well.
>
> Michael
> 64 TR4
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "andy preston" <andypreston at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
>
>
> > Greg, I think that tech sessions are great and a wonderful way to get
> > people
> > together. You can count me in; I've rebuilt a couple of MG gearboxes
> > myself
> > and have a couple of spare ones that I practice on.
> >
> > Another good tech session would be a tune up on a car. Replace/adjust the
> > points, rotor, condenser. Check the plug wires. Set the static timing
> > and
> > then the dynamic timing. Adjust the carbs, etc.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
> > On
> > Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:39 AM
> > To: North Bay British Car Club
> > Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Sounds like we all enjoyed ourselves last Sunday. Now would be a great
> > time for another member to put together our next great drive - anyone
> > want to give some thought to routes and destinations over the next few
> > months?
> >
> > I'm willing to put on another tech session, and am currently working on
> > an Alfa Romeo gearbox and have another Lotus/Ford gearbox that I'll be
> > stripping open to inspect and rebuild. We had several members show up
> > for my first gearbox tech session - are there any members who would like
> > a refresher, or new members who would like to attend? Though these
> > aren't MG, Triumph or Jag 'boxes, the principles are similar, and I know
> > many of us may have worked on motors but not gearboxes, so perhaps you
> > will find this of interest. As an added kick, if someone would like to
> > present some useful technical information/training on another aspect
> > during the same day, we could present these concurrently to appeal to a
> > wider cross-section of members. Robin - feel like doing some rolling
> > troubleshooting?
> >
> > This would be held at our house in Santa Rosa, using our garage and
> > driveway (sorry - we don't have a country estate like John Kenner) and
> > we could combine it with a BBQ lunch if that sounds good. I'm thinking
> > of sometime in April, and will firm up a date when/if I hear of enough
> > interest.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Greg Tatarian
> > 1974 TR6
> > 1971 Lotus Elan S4 DHC
> > 1974 Alfa Romeo GTV2000
> > Tools
> > _______________________________________________
> > Nobbc mailing list
> > Nobbc at autox.team.net
> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> > _______________________________________________
> > Nobbc mailing list
> > Nobbc at autox.team.net
> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From morganspierce at gmail.com  Tue Feb 16 16:02:19 2010
From: morganspierce at gmail.com (Morgan Pierce)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:02:19 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
In-Reply-To: <BAY126-W204EC4EB5DC17CCDCDDD7CD8490@phx.gbl>
References: <355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<69250C5B005D46B08412655577AFFD27@mike>
	<BAY126-W204EC4EB5DC17CCDCDDD7CD8490@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <a8aeec681002161502n6afffbdcv1fbf358d8cb192f6@mail.gmail.com>

Another vote for the Pertronix. I installed one in my TR6 several years ago
after ongoing difficulties with standard points and have not looked back
since.

Morgan Pierce
72 TR6
79 Spitfire

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 2:53 PM, TIM THRESH <tsthresh at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I installed Pertronix replacement inside the existing Lucas distributor-
> easy
> to do. It makes a great difference to high end revs, and zero points
> wear(=no
> adjustments).
>
>
>
> After that tune-ups seem to be all about timing, valves and mixture. The
> issue
> may be in what order!
>
>
>
> Robin used to do all this stuff for his business, so should be ideal to run
> a
> session??
>
>
>
> Tim Thresh
>
> 1958 MGA
>
> > From: mvg1 at verizon.net
> > To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> > Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:21:16 -0800
> > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
> >
> > Here Here,
> >
> > If you want to go over tune ups, please do. My TR4 runs OK from when I
> > brought her to life last year, but she's not quite right. I was
> > contemplating taking her to a shop down the street from me very soon.,
> but I
> > might reconsider if we did a tech session on tune ups. I've also been
> > thinking of installing the Pertronics replacement points, but I've heard
> too
> > many negative comments, a tune up session might help to quall these fears
> as
> > well.
> >
> > Michael
> > 64 TR4
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "andy preston" <andypreston at sbcglobal.net>
> > To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
> >
> >
> > > Greg, I think that tech sessions are great and a wonderful way to get
> > > people
> > > together. You can count me in; I've rebuilt a couple of MG gearboxes
> > > myself
> > > and have a couple of spare ones that I practice on.
> > >
> > > Another good tech session would be a tune up on a car. Replace/adjust
> the
> > > points, rotor, condenser. Check the plug wires. Set the static timing
> > > and
> > > then the dynamic timing. Adjust the carbs, etc.
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:
> nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
> > > On
> > > Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:39 AM
> > > To: North Bay British Car Club
> > > Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Sounds like we all enjoyed ourselves last Sunday. Now would be a great
> > > time for another member to put together our next great drive - anyone
> > > want to give some thought to routes and destinations over the next few
> > > months?
> > >
> > > I'm willing to put on another tech session, and am currently working on
> > > an Alfa Romeo gearbox and have another Lotus/Ford gearbox that I'll be
> > > stripping open to inspect and rebuild. We had several members show up
> > > for my first gearbox tech session - are there any members who would
> like
> > > a refresher, or new members who would like to attend? Though these
> > > aren't MG, Triumph or Jag 'boxes, the principles are similar, and I
> know
> > > many of us may have worked on motors but not gearboxes, so perhaps you
> > > will find this of interest. As an added kick, if someone would like to
> > > present some useful technical information/training on another aspect
> > > during the same day, we could present these concurrently to appeal to a
> > > wider cross-section of members. Robin - feel like doing some rolling
> > > troubleshooting?
> > >
> > > This would be held at our house in Santa Rosa, using our garage and
> > > driveway (sorry - we don't have a country estate like John Kenner) and
> > > we could combine it with a BBQ lunch if that sounds good. I'm thinking
> > > of sometime in April, and will firm up a date when/if I hear of enough
> > > interest.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Greg Tatarian
> > > 1974 TR6
> > > 1971 Lotus Elan S4 DHC
> > > 1974 Alfa Romeo GTV2000
> > > Tools
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Nobbc mailing list
> > > Nobbc at autox.team.net
> > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Nobbc mailing list
> > > Nobbc at autox.team.net
> > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> > _______________________________________________
> > Nobbc mailing list
> > Nobbc at autox.team.net
> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>



-- 
morgan s. pierce

From gtwincams at gmail.com  Tue Feb 16 16:09:17 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:09:17 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
In-Reply-To: <BAY126-W204EC4EB5DC17CCDCDDD7CD8490@phx.gbl>
References: <355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,
	<69250C5B005D46B08412655577AFFD27@mike>
	<BAY126-W204EC4EB5DC17CCDCDDD7CD8490@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4B7B259D.1000604@gmail.com>

I'm working on Robin as we speak, Tim. I'll get back to you when he 
decides if/how it fits into his schedule.
Sounds like we've got some interest in the event, so I'll get this 
scheduled and notify the group soon.
Cheers,
Greg



On 2/16/2010 2:53 PM, TIM THRESH wrote:
> I installed Pertronix replacement inside the existing Lucas distributor- easy
> to do. It makes a great difference to high end revs, and zero points wear(=no
> adjustments).
>
>
>
> After that tune-ups seem to be all about timing, valves and mixture. The issue
> may be in what order!
>
>
>
> Robin used to do all this stuff for his business, so should be ideal to run a
> session??
>
>
>
> Tim Thresh
>
> 1958 MGA

From Kris.Klein at sage.com  Tue Feb 16 16:27:10 2010
From: Kris.Klein at sage.com (Klein, Kris)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:27:10 -0500
Subject: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
In-Reply-To: <4B7B259D.1000604@gmail.com>
References: <355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,
	<69250C5B005D46B08412655577AFFD27@mike>
	<BAY126-W204EC4EB5DC17CCDCDDD7CD8490@phx.gbl>
	<4B7B259D.1000604@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F9D2731F2F4C4848B9636B7551511086021A63E057@NAMAIL01.gs.adinternal.com>

My Healey tire went flat in the garage and don't know where to take it in
around here (Windsor) to have it repaired.  I called Les Schwab and they told
me to bring it in and they would look at it to see if they could repair it but
I thought instead of wasting my time, I would email the group to see what is
recommended.
Thanks,
Krissy Klein
59 Austin Healey 3000 BT7

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:09 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?

I'm working on Robin as we speak, Tim. I'll get back to you when he decides
if/how it fits into his schedule.
Sounds like we've got some interest in the event, so I'll get this scheduled
and notify the group soon.
Cheers,
Greg



On 2/16/2010 2:53 PM, TIM THRESH wrote:
> I installed Pertronix replacement inside the existing Lucas
> distributor- easy to do. It makes a great difference to high end revs,
> and zero points wear(=no adjustments).
>
>
>
> After that tune-ups seem to be all about timing, valves and mixture.
> The issue may be in what order!
>
>
>
> Robin used to do all this stuff for his business, so should be ideal
> to run a session??
>
>
>
> Tim Thresh
>
> 1958 MGA
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From jkenner at tamcab.com  Tue Feb 16 16:45:25 2010
From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:45:25 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TIRES AND PETRONIX
Message-ID: <003e01caaf62$1db5ccf0$592166d0$@com>

THE BEST TIRE AND BRAKE SHOP AROUND FOR MY MONEY, AND THEY TOOK A LOT OF IT,

IS BENEDETTI TIRE AND BRAKE IN SEBASTOPOL.  IF YOU BUY TIRES FROM THEM THEY

WILL FIX FLATS FOR FREE. AND THEY ARE NICE FOLKS.

 

I VOTE A STRONG YES ON THE PETRONIX. ONCE I GOT IT INSTALLED CORRECTLY I'VE
HAD NO PROBLEMS.

 

JOHN KENNER

 

510 231 6803 P

415 806 2457 C

510 231 6805 F

 

 

tamalpais_s

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From rbrown at injexindustries.com  Tue Feb 16 16:41:25 2010
From: rbrown at injexindustries.com (Richard Brown)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:41:25 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
In-Reply-To: <F9D2731F2F4C4848B9636B7551511086021A63E057@NAMAIL01.gs.adinternal.com>
References: <355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,
	<69250C5B005D46B08412655577AFFD27@mike>
	<BAY126-W204EC4EB5DC17CCDCDDD7CD8490@phx.gbl>
	<4B7B259D.1000604@gmail.com>
	<F9D2731F2F4C4848B9636B7551511086021A63E057@NAMAIL01.gs.adinternal.com>
Message-ID: <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294C982E65D31@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com>

Is it tubed?


Richard Brown

Engineering / New Programs-Manager

Injex Industries, Inc.

510.475.8309 / Direct

510.385.9161 / Cellular

510.476.1444 / Fax


-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Klein, Kris
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:27 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel

My Healey tire went flat in the garage and don't know where to take it in
around here (Windsor) to have it repaired.  I called Les Schwab and they told
me to bring it in and they would look at it to see if they could repair it but
I thought instead of wasting my time, I would email the group to see what is
recommended.
Thanks,
Krissy Klein
59 Austin Healey 3000 BT7

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:09 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?

I'm working on Robin as we speak, Tim. I'll get back to you when he decides
if/how it fits into his schedule.
Sounds like we've got some interest in the event, so I'll get this scheduled
and notify the group soon.
Cheers,
Greg



On 2/16/2010 2:53 PM, TIM THRESH wrote:
> I installed Pertronix replacement inside the existing Lucas
> distributor- easy to do. It makes a great difference to high end revs,
> and zero points wear(=no adjustments).
>
>
>
> After that tune-ups seem to be all about timing, valves and mixture.
> The issue may be in what order!
>
>
>
> Robin used to do all this stuff for his business, so should be ideal
> to run a session??
>
>
>
> Tim Thresh
>
> 1958 MGA
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From Kris.Klein at sage.com  Tue Feb 16 16:56:08 2010
From: Kris.Klein at sage.com (Klein, Kris)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:56:08 -0500
Subject: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
In-Reply-To: <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294C982E65D31@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com>
References: <355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,
	<69250C5B005D46B08412655577AFFD27@mike>
	<BAY126-W204EC4EB5DC17CCDCDDD7CD8490@phx.gbl>
	<4B7B259D.1000604@gmail.com>
	<F9D2731F2F4C4848B9636B7551511086021A63E057@NAMAIL01.gs.adinternal.com>
	<7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294C982E65D31@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com>
Message-ID: <F9D2731F2F4C4848B9636B7551511086021A63E07E@NAMAIL01.gs.adinternal.com>

Yes it is tubed.
KK

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Richard Brown
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:41 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel

Is it tubed?


Richard Brown

Engineering / New Programs-Manager

Injex Industries, Inc.

510.475.8309 / Direct

510.385.9161 / Cellular

510.476.1444 / Fax


-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Klein, Kris
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:27 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel

My Healey tire went flat in the garage and don't know where to take it in
around here (Windsor) to have it repaired.  I called Les Schwab and they told
me to bring it in and they would look at it to see if they could repair it but
I thought instead of wasting my time, I would email the group to see what is
recommended.
Thanks,
Krissy Klein
59 Austin Healey 3000 BT7

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:09 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?

I'm working on Robin as we speak, Tim. I'll get back to you when he decides
if/how it fits into his schedule.
Sounds like we've got some interest in the event, so I'll get this scheduled
and notify the group soon.
Cheers,
Greg



On 2/16/2010 2:53 PM, TIM THRESH wrote:
> I installed Pertronix replacement inside the existing Lucas
> distributor- easy to do. It makes a great difference to high end revs,
> and zero points wear(=no adjustments).
>
>
>
> After that tune-ups seem to be all about timing, valves and mixture.
> The issue may be in what order!
>
>
>
> Robin used to do all this stuff for his business, so should be ideal
> to run a session??
>
>
>
> Tim Thresh
>
> 1958 MGA
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From rbrown at injexindustries.com  Tue Feb 16 17:12:41 2010
From: rbrown at injexindustries.com (Richard Brown)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:12:41 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
In-Reply-To: <F9D2731F2F4C4848B9636B7551511086021A63E07E@NAMAIL01.gs.adinternal.com>
References: <355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,
	<69250C5B005D46B08412655577AFFD27@mike>
	<BAY126-W204EC4EB5DC17CCDCDDD7CD8490@phx.gbl>
	<4B7B259D.1000604@gmail.com>
	<F9D2731F2F4C4848B9636B7551511086021A63E057@NAMAIL01.gs.adinternal.com>
	<7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294C982E65D31@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com>
	<F9D2731F2F4C4848B9636B7551511086021A63E07E@NAMAIL01.gs.adinternal.com>
Message-ID: <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294C982E65D36@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com>

 I use Big O in Rohnert Park, they are very used to working on cars for
British European Motors (Mark Singletons place), ask for Tom.
I've had Petronix electronic ignition for 6 years now with no problems, and
last Novemeber I added the Petronix Flamethrower Distributer and coil, which
has 16 (?) different program choices for torque and HP curves. It runs very
smooth and clean now, all thru the rev range.

Richard Brown
Primose '68 XKE Coupe


Richard Brown

Engineering / New Programs-Manager

Injex Industries, Inc.

510.475.8309 / Direct

510.385.9161 / Cellular

510.476.1444 / Fax


-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Klein, Kris
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:56 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel

Yes it is tubed.
KK

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Richard Brown
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:41 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel

Is it tubed?


Richard Brown

Engineering / New Programs-Manager

Injex Industries, Inc.

510.475.8309 / Direct

510.385.9161 / Cellular

510.476.1444 / Fax


-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Klein, Kris
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:27 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel

My Healey tire went flat in the garage and don't know where to take it in
around here (Windsor) to have it repaired.  I called Les Schwab and they told
me to bring it in and they would look at it to see if they could repair it but
I thought instead of wasting my time, I would email the group to see what is
recommended.
Thanks,
Krissy Klein
59 Austin Healey 3000 BT7

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:09 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?

I'm working on Robin as we speak, Tim. I'll get back to you when he decides
if/how it fits into his schedule.
Sounds like we've got some interest in the event, so I'll get this scheduled
and notify the group soon.
Cheers,
Greg



On 2/16/2010 2:53 PM, TIM THRESH wrote:
> I installed Pertronix replacement inside the existing Lucas
> distributor- easy to do. It makes a great difference to high end revs,
> and zero points wear(=no adjustments).
>
>
>
> After that tune-ups seem to be all about timing, valves and mixture.
> The issue may be in what order!
>
>
>
> Robin used to do all this stuff for his business, so should be ideal
> to run a session??
>
>
>
> Tim Thresh
>
> 1958 MGA
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From nobbc at sonic.net  Tue Feb 16 17:33:43 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:33:43 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
In-Reply-To: <F9D2731F2F4C4848B9636B7551511086021A63E057@NAMAIL01.gs.adinternal.com>
References: <355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,
	<69250C5B005D46B08412655577AFFD27@mike>
	<BAY126-W204EC4EB5DC17CCDCDDD7CD8490@phx.gbl>
	<4B7B259D.1000604@gmail.com>
	<F9D2731F2F4C4848B9636B7551511086021A63E057@NAMAIL01.gs.adinternal.com>
Message-ID: <4B7B3967.1000709@sonic.net>

I don't have wire wheels but if I did Monroe Tires would be the first 
place I'd check. They worked on my tubed tires (when I had them) and 
also aligned my MGA. Extremely competent, they've been around for a 
looong time, located on Santa Rosa Ave. just south of Hwy 12 across from 
Santa Rosa Auto Parts.

Ron
58 MGA

Klein, Kris wrote:

> My Healey tire went flat in the garage and don't know where to take it in
> around here (Windsor) to have it repaired.  I called Les Schwab and they told
> me to bring it in and they would look at it to see if they could repair it but
> I thought instead of wasting my time, I would email the group to see what is
> recommended.
> Thanks,
> Krissy Klein
> 59 Austin Healey 3000 BT7
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:09 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
> 
> I'm working on Robin as we speak, Tim. I'll get back to you when he decides
> if/how it fits into his schedule.
> Sounds like we've got some interest in the event, so I'll get this scheduled
> and notify the group soon.
> Cheers,
> Greg
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/16/2010 2:53 PM, TIM THRESH wrote:
> 
>>I installed Pertronix replacement inside the existing Lucas
>>distributor- easy to do. It makes a great difference to high end revs,
>>and zero points wear(=no adjustments).
>>
>>
>>
>>After that tune-ups seem to be all about timing, valves and mixture.
>>The issue may be in what order!
>>
>>
>>
>>Robin used to do all this stuff for his business, so should be ideal
>>to run a session??
>>
>>
>>
>>Tim Thresh
>>
>>1958 MGA
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Tue Feb 16 17:45:49 2010
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:45:49 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
In-Reply-To: <F9D2731F2F4C4848B9636B7551511086021A63E057@NAMAIL01.gs.adinternal.com>
Message-ID: <383811.90456.qm@smtp126.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Krissy, many tire shops won't touch wire wheels because of the potential for
damaging them, and many shops don't know how to correctly balance wire
wheels either.  IMO the best shop in the area, and the only one I use for
all my cars is Valley Tire and Brake on Piner Rd in Santa Rosa.  They know
how to mount tires on wires with tubes and balance them correctly.  The guy
I always speak to there is Eric.  He is extremely helpful and courteous, and
they don't mind doing little jobs either.  If they need to order a tube that
will take a couple of days.  No financial affiliation.

Andy
60 MGA Coupe w/wires
67 MGB Roadster w/wires
74 MGB GT w/rostyles



-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Klein, Kris
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:27 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel

My Healey tire went flat in the garage and don't know where to take it in
around here (Windsor) to have it repaired.  I called Les Schwab and they
told
me to bring it in and they would look at it to see if they could repair it
but
I thought instead of wasting my time, I would email the group to see what is
recommended.
Thanks,
Krissy Klein
59 Austin Healey 3000 BT7

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:09 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?

I'm working on Robin as we speak, Tim. I'll get back to you when he decides
if/how it fits into his schedule.
Sounds like we've got some interest in the event, so I'll get this scheduled
and notify the group soon.
Cheers,
Greg



On 2/16/2010 2:53 PM, TIM THRESH wrote:
> I installed Pertronix replacement inside the existing Lucas
> distributor- easy to do. It makes a great difference to high end revs,
> and zero points wear(=no adjustments).
>
>
>
> After that tune-ups seem to be all about timing, valves and mixture.
> The issue may be in what order!
>
>
>
> Robin used to do all this stuff for his business, so should be ideal
> to run a session??
>
>
>
> Tim Thresh
>
> 1958 MGA
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From rolquinmac at me.com  Tue Feb 16 17:48:26 2010
From: rolquinmac at me.com (Roland Quintero)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:48:26 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] PICTURES  from Korbel Drive..
In-Reply-To: <4B7B3967.1000709@sonic.net>
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	<69250C5B005D46B08412655577AFFD27@mike>
	<BAY126-W204EC4EB5DC17CCDCDDD7CD8490@phx.gbl>
	<4B7B259D.1000604@gmail.com>
	<F9D2731F2F4C4848B9636B7551511086021A63E057@NAMAIL01.gs.adinternal.com>
	<4B7B3967.1000709@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <48086B83-9270-4095-8EF4-AB7171D8DEE8@me.com>

Ron,  Jeanne and I really enjoyed meeting so many new friends,  
yourself, Mike and Charlie etc.   We look forward to the rest of the  
year.  I set up also a site for pictures.  Hope everyone will enjoy  
them...!!  I will do better next time and arrive in time for the  
drive..  Roland

http://www.shutterfly.com/pro/PALOALTOPHOTOG/NOBBC

From rolquinmac at me.com  Tue Feb 16 17:51:05 2010
From: rolquinmac at me.com (Roland Quintero)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:51:05 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] UPDATE OF Pic  file
Message-ID: <5019592D-A7AE-4F10-9B0A-7E4907C7C90C@me.com>

Sorry  the site needs a password... guess how hard it is:......   NOBBC

From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Tue Feb 16 17:51:57 2010
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:51:57 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing
Message-ID: <737561.45884.qm@smtp125.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I'm pleased to see all the positive comment on Petronix.  I had one set on
my MGB GT and after 3 years the car started to miss so I removed it and went
back to points.  When it worked it was great.  I also bought a set for my
MGB Roadster and installed it but it never worked.  So I have 2 sets and
both don't seem to work.  Is there anyway of testing them to see if they are
functional because I'd like to reinstall them if possible.

 

Andy

From jonvet at sonic.net  Tue Feb 16 17:53:57 2010
From: jonvet at sonic.net (John Vetrano)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:53:57 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Jag Help!
Message-ID: <C7A07E27.1818%jonvet@sonic.net>


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From tsthresh at hotmail.com  Tue Feb 16 17:54:12 2010
From: tsthresh at hotmail.com (TIM THRESH)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:54:12 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
In-Reply-To: <4B7B3967.1000709@sonic.net>
References: <355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, ,
	<69250C5B005D46B08412655577AFFD27@mike>,
	<BAY126-W204EC4EB5DC17CCDCDDD7CD8490@phx.gbl>,
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	<4B7B3967.1000709@sonic.net>
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Monroe is a great place, they fix everything even if you buy the tires
elsewhere (eg coker.com). If you mean that you want someone to fix broken
spokes then that is a different game. I do my own but I know that this means
they do not run "true" and more break as a result. Snce my MGA does very
little high speed freeway work this MAY not be an issue.



I have Monroe remove the tire, do my own spokes (Moss parts) then have Monroe
re-install/balance.



BTW Monroe moved to SR Avenue just north of Hwy 12 overpass on the west side.



Tim

> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:33:43 -0800
> From: nobbc at sonic.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
>
> I don't have wire wheels but if I did Monroe Tires would be the first
> place I'd check. They worked on my tubed tires (when I had them) and
> also aligned my MGA. Extremely competent, they've been around for a
> looong time, located on Santa Rosa Ave. just south of Hwy 12 across from
> Santa Rosa Auto Parts.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> Klein, Kris wrote:
>
> > My Healey tire went flat in the garage and don't know where to take it in
> > around here (Windsor) to have it repaired. I called Les Schwab and they
told
> > me to bring it in and they would look at it to see if they could repair it
but
> > I thought instead of wasting my time, I would email the group to see what
is
> > recommended.
> > Thanks,
> > Krissy Klein
> > 59 Austin Healey 3000 BT7
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On
> > Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:09 PM
> > To: North Bay British Car Club
> > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
> >
> > I'm working on Robin as we speak, Tim. I'll get back to you when he
decides
> > if/how it fits into his schedule.
> > Sounds like we've got some interest in the event, so I'll get this
scheduled
> > and notify the group soon.
> > Cheers,
> > Greg
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/16/2010 2:53 PM, TIM THRESH wrote:
> >
> >>I installed Pertronix replacement inside the existing Lucas
> >>distributor- easy to do. It makes a great difference to high end revs,
> >>and zero points wear(=no adjustments).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>After that tune-ups seem to be all about timing, valves and mixture.
> >>The issue may be in what order!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Robin used to do all this stuff for his business, so should be ideal
> >>to run a session??
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Tim Thresh
> >>
> >>1958 MGA
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Nobbc at autox.team.net
> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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From mvg1 at verizon.net  Tue Feb 16 17:56:35 2010
From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:56:35 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
References: <355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<69250C5B005D46B08412655577AFFD27@mike>
	<9096c7991002161411q6572c60bl9cf46f2b17f00bd0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4CC4D56EA4FD4B329ED79DF514534203@mike>

I just heard some comments about installation, reliability, and of course, 
it's not original. Oh well! Sounds like the Pertronics consensus is pretty 
positive. Thank you Ron and Randy. If we do the tech session, maybe I'll 
bring the part and we can install as a group. Very cool.

Michael
64 TR4
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Randy Myers" <randysmga at gmail.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?


> Mike,
>
> I, too, would be interested in attending a tech session involving tune up
> info. My mga probably needs to have its valves adjusted and I'm a little
> rusty about the procedure.   Also, I have had a pertronics system in my 
> mga
> for 6 years and it has performed flawlessly during that time.
>
> Randy Myers
> '59 Mga
> Santa Rosa, CA
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at verizon.net> 
> wrote:
>
>> Here Here,
>>
>> If you want to go over tune ups, please do. My TR4 runs OK from when I
>> brought her to life last year, but she's not quite right. I was
>> contemplating taking her to a shop down the street from me very soon., 
>> but I
>> might reconsider if we did a tech session on tune ups. I've also been
>> thinking of installing the Pertronics replacement points, but I've heard 
>> too
>> many negative comments, a tune up session might help to quall these fears 
>> as
>> well.
>>
>> Michael
>> 64 TR4
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy preston" <
>> andypreston at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:47 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
>>
>>
>>  Greg, I think that tech sessions are great and a wonderful way to get
>>> people
>>> together.  You can count me in; I've rebuilt a couple of MG gearboxes
>>> myself
>>> and have a couple of spare ones that I practice on.
>>>
>>> Another good tech session would be a tune up on a car.  Replace/adjust 
>>> the
>>> points, rotor, condenser.  Check the plug wires.  Set the static timing
>>> and
>>> then the dynamic timing.  Adjust the carbs, etc.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:39 AM
>>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>> Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Sounds like we all enjoyed ourselves last Sunday. Now would be a great
>>> time for another member to put together our next great drive - anyone
>>> want to give some thought to routes and destinations over the next few
>>> months?
>>>
>>> I'm willing to put on another tech session, and am currently working on
>>> an Alfa Romeo gearbox and have another Lotus/Ford gearbox that I'll be
>>> stripping open to inspect and rebuild. We had several members show up
>>> for my first gearbox tech session - are there any members who would like
>>> a refresher, or new members who would like to attend? Though these
>>> aren't MG, Triumph or Jag 'boxes, the principles are similar, and I know
>>> many of us may have worked on motors but not gearboxes, so perhaps you
>>> will find this of interest. As an added kick, if someone would like to
>>> present some useful technical information/training on another aspect
>>> during the same day, we could present these concurrently to appeal to a
>>> wider cross-section of members. Robin - feel like doing some rolling
>>> troubleshooting?
>>>
>>> This would be held at our house in Santa Rosa, using our garage and
>>> driveway (sorry - we don't have a country estate like John Kenner) and
>>> we could combine it with a BBQ lunch if that sounds good. I'm thinking
>>> of sometime in April, and will firm up a date when/if I hear of enough
>>> interest.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Greg Tatarian
>>> 1974 TR6
>>> 1971 Lotus Elan S4 DHC
>>> 1974 Alfa Romeo GTV2000
>>> Tools
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Randy
> _______________________________________________
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> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc 

From nobbc at sonic.net  Tue Feb 16 18:14:25 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:14:25 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
In-Reply-To: <4CC4D56EA4FD4B329ED79DF514534203@mike>
References: <355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<69250C5B005D46B08412655577AFFD27@mike>
	<9096c7991002161411q6572c60bl9cf46f2b17f00bd0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4CC4D56EA4FD4B329ED79DF514534203@mike>
Message-ID: <4B7B42F1.5090301@sonic.net>

That's a great idea Mike. It's the type of simple repair everyone should 
know how to do. We would need to time the ignition also, so two tech 
sessions for the price of one...Pertronix install and ignition timing. 
Might as well throw in valve timing too!

Ron
58 MGA

Mike Gianandrea wrote:

> I just heard some comments about installation, reliability, and of 
> course, it's not original. Oh well! Sounds like the Pertronics consensus 
> is pretty positive. Thank you Ron and Randy. If we do the tech session, 
> maybe I'll bring the part and we can install as a group. Very cool.
> 
> Michael
> 64 TR4
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Myers" <randysmga at gmail.com>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
> 
> 
>> Mike,
>>
>> I, too, would be interested in attending a tech session involving tune up
>> info. My mga probably needs to have its valves adjusted and I'm a little
>> rusty about the procedure.   Also, I have had a pertronics system in 
>> my mga
>> for 6 years and it has performed flawlessly during that time.
>>
>> Randy Myers
>> '59 Mga
>> Santa Rosa, CA
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at verizon.net> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here Here,
>>>
>>> If you want to go over tune ups, please do. My TR4 runs OK from when I
>>> brought her to life last year, but she's not quite right. I was
>>> contemplating taking her to a shop down the street from me very 
>>> soon., but I
>>> might reconsider if we did a tech session on tune ups. I've also been
>>> thinking of installing the Pertronics replacement points, but I've 
>>> heard too
>>> many negative comments, a tune up session might help to quall these 
>>> fears as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>> 64 TR4
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy preston" <
>>> andypreston at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:47 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
>>>
>>>
>>>  Greg, I think that tech sessions are great and a wonderful way to get
>>>
>>>> people
>>>> together.  You can count me in; I've rebuilt a couple of MG gearboxes
>>>> myself
>>>> and have a couple of spare ones that I practice on.
>>>>
>>>> Another good tech session would be a tune up on a car.  
>>>> Replace/adjust the
>>>> points, rotor, condenser.  Check the plug wires.  Set the static timing
>>>> and
>>>> then the dynamic timing.  Adjust the carbs, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net 
>>>> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:39 AM
>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>>> Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like we all enjoyed ourselves last Sunday. Now would be a great
>>>> time for another member to put together our next great drive - anyone
>>>> want to give some thought to routes and destinations over the next few
>>>> months?
>>>>
>>>> I'm willing to put on another tech session, and am currently working on
>>>> an Alfa Romeo gearbox and have another Lotus/Ford gearbox that I'll be
>>>> stripping open to inspect and rebuild. We had several members show up
>>>> for my first gearbox tech session - are there any members who would 
>>>> like
>>>> a refresher, or new members who would like to attend? Though these
>>>> aren't MG, Triumph or Jag 'boxes, the principles are similar, and I 
>>>> know
>>>> many of us may have worked on motors but not gearboxes, so perhaps you
>>>> will find this of interest. As an added kick, if someone would like to
>>>> present some useful technical information/training on another aspect
>>>> during the same day, we could present these concurrently to appeal to a
>>>> wider cross-section of members. Robin - feel like doing some rolling
>>>> troubleshooting?
>>>>
>>>> This would be held at our house in Santa Rosa, using our garage and
>>>> driveway (sorry - we don't have a country estate like John Kenner) and
>>>> we could combine it with a BBQ lunch if that sounds good. I'm thinking
>>>> of sometime in April, and will firm up a date when/if I hear of enough
>>>> interest.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Greg Tatarian
>>>> 1974 TR6
>>>> 1971 Lotus Elan S4 DHC
>>>> 1974 Alfa Romeo GTV2000
>>>> Tools
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Randy
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc 
> 
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From doctoddwright at sbcglobal.net  Tue Feb 16 18:20:58 2010
From: doctoddwright at sbcglobal.net (Todd Wright)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:20:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
In-Reply-To: <BAY126-W19969A957272B25ECD1F66D8480@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <241609.69181.qm@web83008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

There is a shop in San Fransisco called Ken's wheel service....it has been
around since 1968 and when I had my wheels redone  in 1995 they  soaked the
wire wheels in solvent for several days, bead blast,straightened and painted
for 59.50/wheel...additional if spokes need to be replaced....they are at
mission/14th....phone # 415 543 1815.

Todd Wright

66 MGB

--- On Tue, 2/16/10, TIM THRESH <tsthresh at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: TIM THRESH <tsthresh at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 4:54 PM

Monroe is a great place, they fix everything even if you buy the tires
elsewhere (eg coker.com). If you mean that you want someone to fix broken
spokes then that is a different game. I do my own but I know that this means
they do not run "true" and more break as a result. Snce my MGA does very
little high speed freeway work this MAY not be an issue.



I have Monroe remove the tire, do my own spokes (Moss parts) then have Monroe
re-install/balance.



BTW Monroe moved to SR Avenue just north of Hwy 12 overpass on the west side.



Tim

> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:33:43 -0800
> From: nobbc at sonic.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
>
> I don't have wire wheels but if I did Monroe Tires would be the first
> place I'd check. They worked on my tubed tires (when I had them) and
> also aligned my MGA. Extremely competent, they've been around for a
> looong time, located on Santa Rosa Ave. just south of Hwy 12 across from
> Santa Rosa Auto Parts.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> Klein, Kris wrote:
>
> > My Healey tire went flat in the garage and don't know where to take it in
> > around here (Windsor) to have it repaired. I called Les Schwab and they
told
> > me to bring it in and they would look at it to see if they could repair
it
but
> > I thought instead of wasting my time, I would email the group to see what
is
> > recommended.
> > Thanks,
> > Krissy Klein
> > 59 Austin Healey 3000 BT7
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On
> > Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:09 PM
> > To: North Bay British Car Club
> > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
> >
> > I'm working on Robin as we speak, Tim. I'll get back to you when he
decides
> > if/how it fits into his schedule.
> > Sounds like we've got some interest in the event, so I'll get this
scheduled
> > and notify the group soon.
> > Cheers,
> > Greg
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/16/2010 2:53 PM, TIM THRESH wrote:
> >
> >>I installed Pertronix replacement inside the existing Lucas
> >>distributor- easy to do. It makes a great difference to high end revs,
> >>and zero points wear(=no adjustments).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>After that tune-ups seem to be all about timing, valves and mixture.
> >>The issue may be in what order!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Robin used to do all this stuff for his business, so should be ideal
> >>to run a session??
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Tim Thresh
> >>
> >>1958 MGA
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Nobbc mailing list
> > Nobbc at autox.team.net
> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> > _______________________________________________
> > Nobbc mailing list
> > Nobbc at autox.team.net
> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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From jonvet at sonic.net  Tue Feb 16 19:17:01 2010
From: jonvet at sonic.net (John Vetrano)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:17:01 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Jag Help!
In-Reply-To: <C7A07E27.1818%jonvet@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <C7A0919D.1824%jonvet@sonic.net>

Hi all, sorry I missed the Valentines ride it looked like allot of fun.
After rebuilding the Stromberg9s on my 69 E Type I9m now having clutch
problems, it seems that the slave cylinder went away. I jacked up the car
and sure enough fluid is coming out of it when you engage the clutch pedal.
Because of the location of the cylinder and my mechanical ability this is
one for someone who knows what they are doing....not me. I9m not sure if it
needs a rebuild or replacement. Any advice of a place in the Santa Rosa area
that could repair this thing would be deeply appreciated.



Thanks, John Vetrano  jonvet at sonic.net

69 E Jag

From jonvet at sonic.net  Tue Feb 16 19:19:25 2010
From: jonvet at sonic.net (John Vetrano)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:19:25 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Jag help!!
Message-ID: <C7A0922D.1824%jonvet@sonic.net>

Hi all, sorry I missed the Valentines ride it looked like allot of fun.
After rebuilding the Stromberg9s on my 69 E Type I9m now having clutch
problems, it seems that the slave cylinder went away. I jacked up the car
and sure enough fluid is coming out of it when you engage the clutch pedal.
Because of the location of the cylinder and my mechanical ability this is
one for someone who knows what they are doing....not me. I9m not sure if it
needs a rebuild or replacement. Any advice of a place in the Santa Rosa area
that could repair this thing would be deeply appreciated.



Thanks, John Vetrano  jonvet at sonic.net

69 E Jag

From mvg1 at verizon.net  Tue Feb 16 19:45:56 2010
From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:45:56 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
References: <355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<69250C5B005D46B08412655577AFFD27@mike>
	<9096c7991002161411q6572c60bl9cf46f2b17f00bd0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4CC4D56EA4FD4B329ED79DF514534203@mike> <4B7B42F1.5090301@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <B4E4B2AD2CF049D6B42400F8ED950EB3@mike>

Hey ya know? This tech session thing could just work out. No points, timing, 
and valves, my car might just run like it is supposed to when were done, 
what day are we doing this? TOMORROW???????

Also, I bought my 59 bug eyed sprite when I was 18 (what, 40 years ago) then 
a whole string of british cars. I used to buy all of my parts and 
accessaries at Swenson's (?) British Cars in San Rafael. I still have my 
favorite Kangaroo skin driving gloves bought there. At any rate, tuning and 
repairing older wire wheels is a lost art, and really should be done 
properly, and there just aren't enough technicians around who really know 
how to do them. As it happens, there is an auto shop two blocks from mine, 
J&D Automotive, in Petaluma, owned by John Troup, who is not only a past 
president of the Maserati Club of America, (and he has some cool cars there) 
but when I was buying all my british parts at Swenson's, he was the service 
writer there. I would bet that if there is anyone still around that knows 
wire wheels John would know. His number is 763-2909. Long ago, he put a 
clutch in my Camaro, (OK it ain't british) but good work and     VERY 
knowledgable. I WAS going to have him tune my TR, but it kinda sounds like I 
have that one covered.

By the by, I have a pair of wire wheels, and some very old service manuals 
from one of my past XK 140s, and some knock offs for a TR4, anybody 
interested?

Michael
64 TR4
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?


> That's a great idea Mike. It's the type of simple repair everyone should 
> know how to do. We would need to time the ignition also, so two tech 
> sessions for the price of one...Pertronix install and ignition timing. 
> Might as well throw in valve timing too!
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> Mike Gianandrea wrote:
>
>> I just heard some comments about installation, reliability, and of 
>> course, it's not original. Oh well! Sounds like the Pertronics consensus 
>> is pretty positive. Thank you Ron and Randy. If we do the tech session, 
>> maybe I'll bring the part and we can install as a group. Very cool.
>>
>> Michael
>> 64 TR4
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Myers" <randysmga at gmail.com>
>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
>>
>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> I, too, would be interested in attending a tech session involving tune 
>>> up
>>> info. My mga probably needs to have its valves adjusted and I'm a little
>>> rusty about the procedure.   Also, I have had a pertronics system in my 
>>> mga
>>> for 6 years and it has performed flawlessly during that time.
>>>
>>> Randy Myers
>>> '59 Mga
>>> Santa Rosa, CA
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at verizon.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here Here,
>>>>
>>>> If you want to go over tune ups, please do. My TR4 runs OK from when I
>>>> brought her to life last year, but she's not quite right. I was
>>>> contemplating taking her to a shop down the street from me very soon., 
>>>> but I
>>>> might reconsider if we did a tech session on tune ups. I've also been
>>>> thinking of installing the Pertronics replacement points, but I've 
>>>> heard too
>>>> many negative comments, a tune up session might help to quall these 
>>>> fears as
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>> 64 TR4
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy preston" <
>>>> andypreston at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:47 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Greg, I think that tech sessions are great and a wonderful way to get
>>>>
>>>>> people
>>>>> together.  You can count me in; I've rebuilt a couple of MG gearboxes
>>>>> myself
>>>>> and have a couple of spare ones that I practice on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another good tech session would be a tune up on a car.  Replace/adjust 
>>>>> the
>>>>> points, rotor, condenser.  Check the plug wires.  Set the static 
>>>>> timing
>>>>> and
>>>>> then the dynamic timing.  Adjust the carbs, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net 
>>>>> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:39 AM
>>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>>>> Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like we all enjoyed ourselves last Sunday. Now would be a great
>>>>> time for another member to put together our next great drive - anyone
>>>>> want to give some thought to routes and destinations over the next few
>>>>> months?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm willing to put on another tech session, and am currently working 
>>>>> on
>>>>> an Alfa Romeo gearbox and have another Lotus/Ford gearbox that I'll be
>>>>> stripping open to inspect and rebuild. We had several members show up
>>>>> for my first gearbox tech session - are there any members who would 
>>>>> like
>>>>> a refresher, or new members who would like to attend? Though these
>>>>> aren't MG, Triumph or Jag 'boxes, the principles are similar, and I 
>>>>> know
>>>>> many of us may have worked on motors but not gearboxes, so perhaps you
>>>>> will find this of interest. As an added kick, if someone would like to
>>>>> present some useful technical information/training on another aspect
>>>>> during the same day, we could present these concurrently to appeal to 
>>>>> a
>>>>> wider cross-section of members. Robin - feel like doing some rolling
>>>>> troubleshooting?
>>>>>
>>>>> This would be held at our house in Santa Rosa, using our garage and
>>>>> driveway (sorry - we don't have a country estate like John Kenner) and
>>>>> we could combine it with a BBQ lunch if that sounds good. I'm thinking
>>>>> of sometime in April, and will firm up a date when/if I hear of enough
>>>>> interest.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Greg Tatarian
>>>>> 1974 TR6
>>>>> 1971 Lotus Elan S4 DHC
>>>>> 1974 Alfa Romeo GTV2000
>>>>> Tools
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>>>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
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From mvg1 at verizon.net  Tue Feb 16 19:50:19 2010
From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:50:19 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
References: <241609.69181.qm@web83008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CCB66E8E18B846BBBA352270E9F8F8FA@mike>

Well well, I didn't know Ken's Wheel Service was still around. I had all 
four of the wire wheels on my 140 DHC
completely rebuilt at Ken's round about 1972. EXCELLENT job.

Michael
64 TR4
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Todd Wright" <doctoddwright at sbcglobal.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel


> There is a shop in San Fransisco called Ken's wheel service....it has been
> around since 1968 and when I had my wheels redone  in 1995 they  soaked 
> the
> wire wheels in solvent for several days, bead blast,straightened and 
> painted
> for 59.50/wheel...additional if spokes need to be replaced....they are at
> mission/14th....phone # 415 543 1815.
>
> Todd Wright
>
> 66 MGB
>
> --- On Tue, 2/16/10, TIM THRESH <tsthresh at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: TIM THRESH <tsthresh at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 4:54 PM
>
> Monroe is a great place, they fix everything even if you buy the tires
> elsewhere (eg coker.com). If you mean that you want someone to fix broken
> spokes then that is a different game. I do my own but I know that this 
> means
> they do not run "true" and more break as a result. Snce my MGA does very
> little high speed freeway work this MAY not be an issue.
>
>
>
> I have Monroe remove the tire, do my own spokes (Moss parts) then have 
> Monroe
> re-install/balance.
>
>
>
> BTW Monroe moved to SR Avenue just north of Hwy 12 overpass on the west 
> side.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:33:43 -0800
>> From: nobbc at sonic.net
>> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
>>
>> I don't have wire wheels but if I did Monroe Tires would be the first
>> place I'd check. They worked on my tubed tires (when I had them) and
>> also aligned my MGA. Extremely competent, they've been around for a
>> looong time, located on Santa Rosa Ave. just south of Hwy 12 across from
>> Santa Rosa Auto Parts.
>>
>> Ron
>> 58 MGA
>>
>> Klein, Kris wrote:
>>
>> > My Healey tire went flat in the garage and don't know where to take it 
>> > in
>> > around here (Windsor) to have it repaired. I called Les Schwab and they
> told
>> > me to bring it in and they would look at it to see if they could repair
> it
> but
>> > I thought instead of wasting my time, I would email the group to see 
>> > what
> is
>> > recommended.
>> > Thanks,
>> > Krissy Klein
>> > 59 Austin Healey 3000 BT7
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net 
>> > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On
>> > Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:09 PM
>> > To: North Bay British Car Club
>> > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
>> >
>> > I'm working on Robin as we speak, Tim. I'll get back to you when he
> decides
>> > if/how it fits into his schedule.
>> > Sounds like we've got some interest in the event, so I'll get this
> scheduled
>> > and notify the group soon.
>> > Cheers,
>> > Greg
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2/16/2010 2:53 PM, TIM THRESH wrote:
>> >
>> >>I installed Pertronix replacement inside the existing Lucas
>> >>distributor- easy to do. It makes a great difference to high end revs,
>> >>and zero points wear(=no adjustments).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>After that tune-ups seem to be all about timing, valves and mixture.
>> >>The issue may be in what order!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Robin used to do all this stuff for his business, so should be ideal
>> >>to run a session??
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Tim Thresh
>> >>
>> >>1958 MGA
>> >
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From mvg1 at verizon.net  Tue Feb 16 19:52:59 2010
From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:52:59 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Jag help!!
References: <C7A0922D.1824%jonvet@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <8211746D21014CFD90E71B6DDF79094B@mike>

Hi John, J&D in Petaluma.

Michael
64 TR4
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Vetrano" <jonvet at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 6:19 PM
Subject: [Nobbc] Jag help!!


> Hi all, sorry I missed the Valentines ride it looked like allot of fun.
> After rebuilding the Stromberg9s on my 69 E Type I9m now having clutch
> problems, it seems that the slave cylinder went away. I jacked up the car
> and sure enough fluid is coming out of it when you engage the clutch 
> pedal.
> Because of the location of the cylinder and my mechanical ability this is
> one for someone who knows what they are doing....not me. I9m not sure if 
> it
> needs a rebuild or replacement. Any advice of a place in the Santa Rosa 
> area
> that could repair this thing would be deeply appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks, John Vetrano  jonvet at sonic.net
>
> 69 E Jag
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From liamof at earthlink.net  Tue Feb 16 20:04:41 2010
From: liamof at earthlink.net (liam oflaherty)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:04:41 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing
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Message-ID: <003e01caaf7d$f47d0fd0$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21>

Andy,
I have heard the same thing from other people.  Its like they either don't 
work at all or they work really well.  I got lucky with mine and its been in 
the car for about 3 years.  As part of their instructions it tells you to 
save the old points incase there is a problem. Funny how that works.  I 
found that my timing greatly improved with it.  I used to have a problem 
getting the dipstick out because the vacume biscuit was in the way but now 
that I have the petronix the distributer has rotated to the correct 
position.  I still can't explain that one.
Liam
57 white mga
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "andy preston" <andypreston at sbcglobal.net>
To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 4:51 PM
Subject: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing


> I'm pleased to see all the positive comment on Petronix.  I had one set on
> my MGB GT and after 3 years the car started to miss so I removed it and 
> went
> back to points.  When it worked it was great.  I also bought a set for my
> MGB Roadster and installed it but it never worked.  So I have 2 sets and
> both don't seem to work.  Is there anyway of testing them to see if they 
> are
> functional because I'd like to reinstall them if possible.
>
>
>
> Andy
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From rnapda at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 16 20:38:18 2010
From: rnapda at yahoo.com (Richard Anderson)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:38:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] Jag help!!
In-Reply-To: <C7A0922D.1824%jonvet@sonic.net>
References: <C7A0922D.1824%jonvet@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <447156.24013.qm@web46013.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Hi John,

Mike's Imports and Engines in Santa Rosa replaced a clutch and rebuilt a transmission for me.

Dick Anderson
'67 XKE



________________________________
From: John Vetrano <jonvet at sonic.net>
To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 6:19:25 PM
Subject: [Nobbc] Jag help!!

Hi all, sorry I missed the Valentines ride it looked like allot of fun.
After rebuilding the Stromberg9s on my 69 E Type I9m now having clutch
problems, it seems that the slave cylinder went away. I jacked up the car
and sure enough fluid is coming out of it when you engage the clutch pedal.
Because of the location of the cylinder and my mechanical ability this is
one for someone who knows what they are doing....not me. I9m not sure if it
needs a rebuild or replacement. Any advice of a place in the Santa Rosa area
that could repair this thing would be deeply appreciated.



Thanks, John Vetrano  jonvet at sonic.net

69 E Jag
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From splath at comcast.net  Tue Feb 16 20:56:26 2010
From: splath at comcast.net (Steve Plath)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:56:26 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Dawson great ride
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Message-ID: <D3BE7FE7E1E440EDABB3ACE865834B6C@dell8300>

Dawson and all,

Thanks so much for a great time.  It's been awhile since I've gone on a ride 
with the NOBBC and this was a really a beaut.  My friend, Dick Gale of the 
black Jag XK120, was a first timer and also had a great time.  Dawson thanks 
for your hospitality.

I'll have to look into another Marin run this summer.

Steve Plath

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marinelli, Ronald J" <Mariner at sutterhealth.org>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Dawson great ride


> Dawson,
>
> Thanks for your wonderful hospitality.  What an event!
>
> Ron & Irene Marinelli
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Dawson Church
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:09 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Dawson great ride
>
> Thanks! What a great day!
>
> Dawson
>
>
>
> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:04 PM, andy preston wrote:
>
>> Dawson, you organized a wonderful and enjoyable ride, so many thanks
>> for taking the time and effort to plan a great ride, tour of Korbel
>> and also
> the
>> coffee and croissants at your house.  I didn't hear of anyone loosing
>> their exhaust or any other parts driving down Sweetwater Springs Rd
>> and it was a good shake down for Charlie with his inaugural ride.
> Well done Charlie.
>>
>>
>>
>> And the Coupe is just the perfect fit for you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Andy and Marla
>> _______________________________________________
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From home at drummondlaw.com  Tue Feb 16 21:30:10 2010
From: home at drummondlaw.com (Dan)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:30:10 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
In-Reply-To: <4B7AFB22.2050707@gmail.com>
References: <4B7ABC29.5090208@gmail.com><355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><05D7233736144661A4BAFFE6EC322E6E@dandebbie>
	<4B7AFB22.2050707@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C87D6E17A7324C2AA4E49FB6B4D55EA7@dandebbie>

Hey Greg,

Don't get me wrong, I think the tech session you're suggesting on the gear
box rebuild is a great idea and I will be there.  Even if I never rebuild a
tranny, it's good knowledge to have when the time comes that it needs to be
done.  Being able to converse with the shop guys in their native language is
invaluable.  I had the transmission on my Jag rebuilt a couple years back.
While I removed and reinstalled the unit (with no parts left over I'm
pleased to report), I left the rebuilding to Santa Rosa Hydromatic and they
did a great job.  That you and the rest of the guys are willing to share
your expertise with those of us not so gifted is very generous and much
appreciated.  I hope you don't think I was suggesting otherwise.  I was just
throwing out another idea for another session.

Dan
66 MGB


-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 12:08 PM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?

Hi Dan,
Yes, it's true not everyone can get a lot of use from a gearbox session, 
but that's what I'm currently doing, so it's a good fit for me right 
now. However, it's also a nice chance to chat with members, and it's 
also why I suggested a concurrent session that can be handled by another 
member; I can join in on if my tech session is briefer than say a tuneup 
session or electronic ignition swap session, both of which are great ideas!
So, here's what I'm thinking:
I'll set up my garage for a gearbox session that could take say, 1 hour. 
Concurrently, another member, perhaps Andy or Robin, maybe both if 
willing, can be handling a tuneup session, or ignition conversion 
session in my driveway, which can fit two cars at a time. After my 
gearbox spiel, I can join in on the tuneup/ignition gig.
If there is another session other than tuneup/ignition that people have 
more interest in, let's kick that around now.
Andy - if you'd like to bring over an open or partially open MG gearbox, 
I can use that to show the differences/similarities to the boxes I'll be 
using.
How does this sound? Keep your suggestions flowing - I'm all for making 
this whatever you want it to be. The one constant should, I think, be 
that we leave time for socializing and a BBQ.
Cheers,
Greg Tatarian


On 2/16/2010 11:23 AM, Dan wrote:
> I echo Andy's comments.  A tech session on some of the more routine
> maintenance items would be great.  That's more within my capabilities.
>
> Greg, Count me in for your gearbox rebuilding session, although it's
pretty
> unlikely I will ever undertake such an endeavor.  Still, it's good to know
> what's going on even if one doesn't do the work himself (or herself).
>
> Dan
> 66MGB
>
> -
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From splath at comcast.net  Tue Feb 16 21:47:05 2010
From: splath at comcast.net (Steve Plath)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:47:05 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
References: <241609.69181.qm@web83008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<CCB66E8E18B846BBBA352270E9F8F8FA@mike>
Message-ID: <0288BBB37CC241FF8E1CA0A9CC195068@dell8300>

Mike,

Ken's Wheel Service is still around and Sean still runs the show.  They are 
still in San Francisco, but have moved to a new location at 280 14th Street. 
I just had my wire wheels for the MG TC tuned and they also tuned my E-type 
and Daimler wire wheels in the past.  They also paint and balance them.  I 
can highly recommend them for wire wheel work and proper mounting of wire 
wheel tires.

Steve Plath

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Gianandrea" <mvg1 at verizon.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel


> Well well, I didn't know Ken's Wheel Service was still around. I had all 
> four of the wire wheels on my 140 DHC
> completely rebuilt at Ken's round about 1972. EXCELLENT job.
>
> Michael
> 64 TR4
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Todd Wright" <doctoddwright at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 5:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
>
>
>> There is a shop in San Fransisco called Ken's wheel service....it has 
>> been
>> around since 1968 and when I had my wheels redone  in 1995 they  soaked 
>> the
>> wire wheels in solvent for several days, bead blast,straightened and 
>> painted
>> for 59.50/wheel...additional if spokes need to be replaced....they are at
>> mission/14th....phone # 415 543 1815.
>>
>> Todd Wright
>>
>> 66 MGB
>>
>> --- On Tue, 2/16/10, TIM THRESH <tsthresh at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: TIM THRESH <tsthresh at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 4:54 PM
>>
>> Monroe is a great place, they fix everything even if you buy the tires
>> elsewhere (eg coker.com). If you mean that you want someone to fix broken
>> spokes then that is a different game. I do my own but I know that this 
>> means
>> they do not run "true" and more break as a result. Snce my MGA does very
>> little high speed freeway work this MAY not be an issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have Monroe remove the tire, do my own spokes (Moss parts) then have 
>> Monroe
>> re-install/balance.
>>
>>
>>
>> BTW Monroe moved to SR Avenue just north of Hwy 12 overpass on the west 
>> side.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:33:43 -0800
>>> From: nobbc at sonic.net
>>> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
>>>
>>> I don't have wire wheels but if I did Monroe Tires would be the first
>>> place I'd check. They worked on my tubed tires (when I had them) and
>>> also aligned my MGA. Extremely competent, they've been around for a
>>> looong time, located on Santa Rosa Ave. just south of Hwy 12 across from
>>> Santa Rosa Auto Parts.
>>>
>>> Ron
>>> 58 MGA
>>>
>>> Klein, Kris wrote:
>>>
>>> > My Healey tire went flat in the garage and don't know where to take it 
>>> > in
>>> > around here (Windsor) to have it repaired. I called Les Schwab and 
>>> > they
>> told
>>> > me to bring it in and they would look at it to see if they could 
>>> > repair
>> it
>> but
>>> > I thought instead of wasting my time, I would email the group to see 
>>> > what
>> is
>>> > recommended.
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Krissy Klein
>>> > 59 Austin Healey 3000 BT7
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net 
>>> > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
>> On
>>> > Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:09 PM
>>> > To: North Bay British Car Club
>>> > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
>>> >
>>> > I'm working on Robin as we speak, Tim. I'll get back to you when he
>> decides
>>> > if/how it fits into his schedule.
>>> > Sounds like we've got some interest in the event, so I'll get this
>> scheduled
>>> > and notify the group soon.
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Greg
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 2/16/2010 2:53 PM, TIM THRESH wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>I installed Pertronix replacement inside the existing Lucas
>>> >>distributor- easy to do. It makes a great difference to high end revs,
>>> >>and zero points wear(=no adjustments).
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>After that tune-ups seem to be all about timing, valves and mixture.
>>> >>The issue may be in what order!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>Robin used to do all this stuff for his business, so should be ideal
>>> >>to run a session??
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>Tim Thresh
>>> >>
>>> >>1958 MGA
>>> >
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From norman.weinfeld at gmail.com  Tue Feb 16 22:12:02 2010
From: norman.weinfeld at gmail.com (Norman S. Weinfeld)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:12:02 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing
In-Reply-To: <003e01caaf7d$f47d0fd0$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21>
References: <737561.45884.qm@smtp125.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> 
	<003e01caaf7d$f47d0fd0$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21>
Message-ID: <320ff8001002162112n575ac88dk64d0c1d1c67fadc6@mail.gmail.com>

My Jag XK140 left me stranded after installing the Pertronix electronic
ignition setup. Only time it's ever done that. After consultation with Jason
Len of XK's Unlimited, I was advised to make sure that I was using a
matching coil that was up to it (I was), and that the ignition wires were up
to snuff as well. They apparently weren't, and after changing them out, the
thing has run as never before and continues to do so to this day. I also
installed GROSE-type carb jets at the same time, however, so I'm not sure
how much that factors in. But I, too, have heard of a number of others
having had troubles after going the Pertronix route. For my part, though,
I'm sold. Now...

Norm Weinfeld
'55 XK140 DHC
San Francisco

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 7:04 PM, liam oflaherty <liamof at earthlink.net>wrote:

> Andy,
> I have heard the same thing from other people.  Its like they either don't
> work at all or they work really well.  I got lucky with mine and its been in
> the car for about 3 years.  As part of their instructions it tells you to
> save the old points incase there is a problem. Funny how that works.  I
> found that my timing greatly improved with it.  I used to have a problem
> getting the dipstick out because the vacume biscuit was in the way but now
> that I have the petronix the distributer has rotated to the correct
> position.  I still can't explain that one.
> Liam
> 57 white mga
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy preston" <
> andypreston at sbcglobal.net>
>
> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 4:51 PM
> Subject: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing
>
>
>
>  I'm pleased to see all the positive comment on Petronix.  I had one set on
>> my MGB GT and after 3 years the car started to miss so I removed it and
>> went
>> back to points.  When it worked it was great.  I also bought a set for my
>> MGB Roadster and installed it but it never worked.  So I have 2 sets and
>> both don't seem to work.  Is there anyway of testing them to see if they
>> are
>> functional because I'd like to reinstall them if possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> Andy
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Tue Feb 16 22:53:12 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (gtwincams at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 05:53:12 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
Message-ID: <mailman.0.1266386022.6560.nobbc@autox.team.net>

No worries, Dan - I always appreciate hearing good suggestions, and took yours as such. 

Robin has agreed to help with the session, which is great. If I spend about an hour on gearboxes while Robin starts the tuning session, I can give a good familiarization then move on to help Robin. It seems like the tuning session is in greater demand, and I'm happy to make this about anything we all want, tools, time and abilities permitting, so thank you for getting that discussion going!

Best to you,
Greg Tatarian
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

From wkilch at sbcglobal.net  Wed Feb 17 08:50:31 2010
From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (Walter Kilchherr)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 07:50:31 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing
Message-ID: <580476.68048.qm@smtp126.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I've heard nothing but good about Pertronics, it improved my Sprites
performance. BUT, I've heard you can kill them by leaving the ignition on too
long without the engine running. It does hurt to have the old parts in your
car just in case.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: andy preston <andypreston at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 4:51 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club' <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing

I'm pleased to see all the positive comment on Petronix.  I had one set on
my MGB GT and after 3 years the car started to miss so I removed it and went
back to points.  When it worked it was great.  I also bought a set for my
MGB Roadster and installed it but it never worked.  So I have 2 sets and
both don't seem to work.  Is there anyway of testing them to see if they are
functional because I'd like to reinstall them if possible.



Andy
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Wed Feb 17 09:10:59 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Gregory Tatarian)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 08:10:59 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing
In-Reply-To: <580476.68048.qm@smtp126.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <580476.68048.qm@smtp126.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cba79041002170810x39456262s2daea2f9dc4014df@mail.gmail.com>

I have a few observations and some experiences with Pertronix:

First, the ignition timing will change after conversion. The trigger point
of the unit is different than with contact points, and most likely your
timing will be REALLY advanced, so keep that in mind.

Next, the coil resistance is very important, and must be matched to the
existing wiring in the car and the type of Pertronix used (Ignitor vs.
Ignitor II vx. Ignitor III). Specifically, cars with ballast resistance
wires will affect the coil resistance selection, as will the conversion
unit. Most of the conversion units for our cars are Ignitor (not II or III),
but new distributors come with II or III versions, so be careful there.

One effect of changing your ballast wire/coil configuration is your
tachometer; using a 1.5 ohm coil instead of a 3.0 ohm coil after removal of
the ballast wire will often result in a tachometer that does not read
correctly - often 2x the actual reading. In many cases, your tachometer will
bounce around no matter which coil/wire/Ignitor combination is selected.
This is due to the older type of triggering used in older cars. If you have
Smiths gauges, for example, and have an RVI movement tach, you will be
likely to have issues. If you have a later RVC tach, it will almost
certainly perform properly, due to the compatibility in circuitry with
electronic ignition. Old tachs can be converted, but that's easier done in
England than here, though there are one or two shops that handle the
conversion.

What I have found is that it is generally safer to use a 3.0 ohm coil with
our without a ballast wire and have the Pertronix see extra resistance than
to use a 1.5 ohm coil without a ballast wire, even if that is the preferred
configuration, unless you convert your tach.

There are other considerations when converting to Pertronix, and we can
cover those at the tech session if that's a popular subject.

FWIW, I have Pertronix units on the Elan and TR6, and they function
flawlessly, and have since being installed. I don't keep a spare set of
points, but I do have a spare Pertronix. I've had plenty of points and
condensors fail or wear prematurely, so always used to keep spares of those,
although they are cheaper in comparison; I just always expect that something
will fail, and I'm not disappointed when it does. Hmm. Cynical of me...

Spark on!

Greg Tatarian

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Walter Kilchherr <wkilch at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> I've heard nothing but good about Pertronics, it improved my Sprites
> performance. BUT, I've heard you can kill them by leaving the ignition on
> too
> long without the engine running. It does hurt to have the old parts in your
> car just in case.
>
> Walter

From sarto477 at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 17 10:38:42 2010
From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:38:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing
In-Reply-To: <cba79041002170810x39456262s2daea2f9dc4014df@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <256277.38784.qm@web113513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

WOW!!!  I have never seen NOBBC with so many posts on my Email.  Starting with
Dawson's get together followed by helpful 'where to' and 'how to' sources and
finally the multiple tech sessions. By having different sessions going on at
the same time, forces me to pick, when I want to learn from all of them.
  Our "North Bay British Car Club" Is firing on all cylinders, like any club
should.  The only way to top it, is to have the next meeting in England.
--with our cars--
My story,, I had a Pertronix unit installed by Mark Singleton at British
European Motors and he did reconfigure the tachometer and it has never given
me any problems over the last 5 years.  At the next session I may have some
information on weber tuning.
Cheers, Sarto1966 Lotus Elan Coupe
--- On Wed, 2/17/10, Gregory Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Gregory Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 8:10 AM

I have a few observations and some experiences with Pertronix:

First, the ignition timing will change after conversion. The trigger point
of the unit is different than with contact points, and most likely your
timing will be REALLY advanced, so keep that in mind.

Next, the coil resistance is very important, and must be matched to the
existing wiring in the car and the type of Pertronix used (Ignitor vs.
Ignitor II vx. Ignitor III). Specifically, cars with ballast resistance
wires will affect the coil resistance selection, as will the conversion
unit. Most of the conversion units for our cars are Ignitor (not II or III),
but new distributors come with II or III versions, so be careful there.

One effect of changing your ballast wire/coil configuration is your
tachometer; using a 1.5 ohm coil instead of a 3.0 ohm coil after removal of
the ballast wire will often result in a tachometer that does not read
correctly - often 2x the actual reading. In many cases, your tachometer will
bounce around no matter which coil/wire/Ignitor combination is selected.
This is due to the older type of triggering used in older cars. If you have
Smiths gauges, for example, and have an RVI movement tach, you will be
likely to have issues. If you have a later RVC tach, it will almost
certainly perform properly, due to the compatibility in circuitry with
electronic ignition. Old tachs can be converted, but that's easier done in
England than here, though there are one or two shops that handle the
conversion.

What I have found is that it is generally safer to use a 3.0 ohm coil with
our without a ballast wire and have the Pertronix see extra resistance than
to use a 1.5 ohm coil without a ballast wire, even if that is the preferred
configuration, unless you convert your tach.

There are other considerations when converting to Pertronix, and we can
cover those at the tech session if that's a popular subject.

FWIW, I have Pertronix units on the Elan and TR6, and they function
flawlessly, and have since being installed. I don't keep a spare set of
points, but I do have a spare Pertronix. I've had plenty of points and
condensors fail or wear prematurely, so always used to keep spares of those,
although they are cheaper in comparison; I just always expect that something
will fail, and I'm not disappointed when it does. Hmm. Cynical of me...

Spark on!

Greg Tatarian

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Walter Kilchherr
<wkilch at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> I've heard nothing but good about Pertronics, it improved my Sprites
> performance. BUT, I've heard you can kill them by leaving the ignition on
> too
> long without the engine running. It does hurt to have the old parts in your
> car just in case.
>
> Walter
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From mvg1 at verizon.net  Wed Feb 17 11:05:40 2010
From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:05:40 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing
References: <580476.68048.qm@smtp126.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<cba79041002170810x39456262s2daea2f9dc4014df@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2A7AF79DBC4746ED830863C90CF9AC30@mike>

Hey Greg,

I have gotten pretty excited about putting the Pertronics in my TR4, but 
your message sort of takes me back to my original reservations. In reading 
your message, it would seem that replacing the points only is only part of 
the job, thus it would seem that for proper performance, one should replace 
the points, coil, and distributor, is this correct? Also, I have Draeger 
gauges (not sure they read acurately now) in my TR4, am I likely to have a 
problem with these? If I'm going to make a change, I prefer to do a complete 
and correct job, and have my car hummin. What are your recommendations?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gregory Tatarian" <gtwincams at gmail.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing


>I have a few observations and some experiences with Pertronix:
>
> First, the ignition timing will change after conversion. The trigger point
> of the unit is different than with contact points, and most likely your
> timing will be REALLY advanced, so keep that in mind.
>
> Next, the coil resistance is very important, and must be matched to the
> existing wiring in the car and the type of Pertronix used (Ignitor vs.
> Ignitor II vx. Ignitor III). Specifically, cars with ballast resistance
> wires will affect the coil resistance selection, as will the conversion
> unit. Most of the conversion units for our cars are Ignitor (not II or 
> III),
> but new distributors come with II or III versions, so be careful there.
>
> One effect of changing your ballast wire/coil configuration is your
> tachometer; using a 1.5 ohm coil instead of a 3.0 ohm coil after removal 
> of
> the ballast wire will often result in a tachometer that does not read
> correctly - often 2x the actual reading. In many cases, your tachometer 
> will
> bounce around no matter which coil/wire/Ignitor combination is selected.
> This is due to the older type of triggering used in older cars. If you 
> have
> Smiths gauges, for example, and have an RVI movement tach, you will be
> likely to have issues. If you have a later RVC tach, it will almost
> certainly perform properly, due to the compatibility in circuitry with
> electronic ignition. Old tachs can be converted, but that's easier done in
> England than here, though there are one or two shops that handle the
> conversion.
>
> What I have found is that it is generally safer to use a 3.0 ohm coil with
> our without a ballast wire and have the Pertronix see extra resistance 
> than
> to use a 1.5 ohm coil without a ballast wire, even if that is the 
> preferred
> configuration, unless you convert your tach.
>
> There are other considerations when converting to Pertronix, and we can
> cover those at the tech session if that's a popular subject.
>
> FWIW, I have Pertronix units on the Elan and TR6, and they function
> flawlessly, and have since being installed. I don't keep a spare set of
> points, but I do have a spare Pertronix. I've had plenty of points and
> condensors fail or wear prematurely, so always used to keep spares of 
> those,
> although they are cheaper in comparison; I just always expect that 
> something
> will fail, and I'm not disappointed when it does. Hmm. Cynical of me...
>
> Spark on!
>
> Greg Tatarian
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Walter Kilchherr 
> <wkilch at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>
>> I've heard nothing but good about Pertronics, it improved my Sprites
>> performance. BUT, I've heard you can kill them by leaving the ignition on
>> too
>> long without the engine running. It does hurt to have the old parts in 
>> your
>> car just in case.
>>
>> Walter
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From dawson at authorspublishing.com  Wed Feb 17 11:29:04 2010
From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:29:04 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing
In-Reply-To: <2A7AF79DBC4746ED830863C90CF9AC30@mike>
References: <580476.68048.qm@smtp126.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<cba79041002170810x39456262s2daea2f9dc4014df@mail.gmail.com>
	<2A7AF79DBC4746ED830863C90CF9AC30@mike>
Message-ID: <51E93589-BC46-44A2-BFF0-4C373A8E16AE@authorspublishing.com>

Hi Friends,

I've tried installing a pertronix three times in my Lotus with a 904 2 liter
engine, and it did not work any of those times, even with hours spent on the
phone to tech support, or returning the original pertronix unit and getting a
new one TWICE!

Dawson




On Feb 17, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Mike Gianandrea wrote:

> Hey Greg,
>
> I have gotten pretty excited about putting the Pertronics in my TR4, but
your message sort of takes me back to my original reservations. In reading
your message, it would seem that replacing the points only is only part of the
job, thus it would seem that for proper performance, one should replace the
points, coil, and distributor, is this correct? Also, I have Draeger gauges
(not sure they read acurately now) in my TR4, am I likely to have a problem
with these? If I'm going to make a change, I prefer to do a complete and
correct job, and have my car hummin. What are your recommendations?
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Tatarian" <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing
>
>
>> I have a few observations and some experiences with Pertronix:
>>
>> First, the ignition timing will change after conversion. The trigger point
>> of the unit is different than with contact points, and most likely your
>> timing will be REALLY advanced, so keep that in mind.
>>
>> Next, the coil resistance is very important, and must be matched to the
>> existing wiring in the car and the type of Pertronix used (Ignitor vs.
>> Ignitor II vx. Ignitor III). Specifically, cars with ballast resistance
>> wires will affect the coil resistance selection, as will the conversion
>> unit. Most of the conversion units for our cars are Ignitor (not II or
III),
>> but new distributors come with II or III versions, so be careful there.
>>
>> One effect of changing your ballast wire/coil configuration is your
>> tachometer; using a 1.5 ohm coil instead of a 3.0 ohm coil after removal
of
>> the ballast wire will often result in a tachometer that does not read
>> correctly - often 2x the actual reading. In many cases, your tachometer
will
>> bounce around no matter which coil/wire/Ignitor combination is selected.
>> This is due to the older type of triggering used in older cars. If you
have
>> Smiths gauges, for example, and have an RVI movement tach, you will be
>> likely to have issues. If you have a later RVC tach, it will almost
>> certainly perform properly, due to the compatibility in circuitry with
>> electronic ignition. Old tachs can be converted, but that's easier done in
>> England than here, though there are one or two shops that handle the
>> conversion.
>>
>> What I have found is that it is generally safer to use a 3.0 ohm coil with
>> our without a ballast wire and have the Pertronix see extra resistance
than
>> to use a 1.5 ohm coil without a ballast wire, even if that is the
preferred
>> configuration, unless you convert your tach.
>>
>> There are other considerations when converting to Pertronix, and we can
>> cover those at the tech session if that's a popular subject.
>>
>> FWIW, I have Pertronix units on the Elan and TR6, and they function
>> flawlessly, and have since being installed. I don't keep a spare set of
>> points, but I do have a spare Pertronix. I've had plenty of points and
>> condensors fail or wear prematurely, so always used to keep spares of
those,
>> although they are cheaper in comparison; I just always expect that
something
>> will fail, and I'm not disappointed when it does. Hmm. Cynical of me...
>>
>> Spark on!
>>
>> Greg Tatarian
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Walter Kilchherr
<wkilch at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>>
>>> I've heard nothing but good about Pertronics, it improved my Sprites
>>> performance. BUT, I've heard you can kill them by leaving the ignition on
>>> too
>>> long without the engine running. It does hurt to have the old parts in
your
>>> car just in case.
>>>
>>> Walter
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
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>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Wed Feb 17 11:29:31 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:29:31 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Jag help!!
In-Reply-To: <447156.24013.qm@web46013.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <C7A0922D.1824%jonvet@sonic.net>
	<447156.24013.qm@web46013.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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I'd like to add that Mike is an Nobbc member, drives a V-8 MGB. I 
haven't seen him on a ride in quite a few years though. His shop is 
located on SR Ave. between Sonoma Ave and Hwy 12.

Ron
58 MGA

Richard Anderson wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> Mike's Imports and Engines in Santa Rosa replaced a clutch and rebuilt a transmission for me.
> 
> Dick Anderson
> '67 XKE
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: John Vetrano <jonvet at sonic.net>
> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 6:19:25 PM
> Subject: [Nobbc] Jag help!!
> 
> Hi all, sorry I missed the Valentines ride it looked like allot of fun.
> After rebuilding the Stromberg9s on my 69 E Type I9m now having clutch
> problems, it seems that the slave cylinder went away. I jacked up the car
> and sure enough fluid is coming out of it when you engage the clutch pedal.
> Because of the location of the cylinder and my mechanical ability this is
> one for someone who knows what they are doing....not me. I9m not sure if it
> needs a rebuild or replacement. Any advice of a place in the Santa Rosa area
> that could repair this thing would be deeply appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks, John Vetrano  jonvet at sonic.net
> 
> 69 E Jag
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Wed Feb 17 11:35:39 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:35:39 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing
In-Reply-To: <2A7AF79DBC4746ED830863C90CF9AC30@mike>
References: <580476.68048.qm@smtp126.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<cba79041002170810x39456262s2daea2f9dc4014df@mail.gmail.com>
	<2A7AF79DBC4746ED830863C90CF9AC30@mike>
Message-ID: <4B7C36FB.5020307@gmail.com>

Hi Mike,

It is definitely NOT necessary to replace the distributor, as long as 
yours functions properly. In fact, Pertronix units, like many other 
electronic ignition systems, often extend the useful life of older 
dizzys because they aren't as affected by a worn shaft bushing, which 
causes points bounce. Also, there is no longer any wear on the cam, 
which now only serves as a locator for the reluctor (as I recall the 
term for the part).

In most cases, you will be able to keep your existing coil if it's 
30,000 volts or higher - a Lucas Gold Coil is fine. The Pertronix 40,000 
volt coils are nice. You won't really know how your tachometer reacts 
until you wire up the Pertronix. My personal approach would be to 
install the conversion kit, then see how the system works. If you have 
to change the coil, remove the ballast resistor wire, or have the tacho 
converted, you can do those only if needed. I don't know how Draeger 
tachos are triggered, but I assume it's current pulse triggered. Newer 
tachos, say after 1972, were voltage pulse triggered, and work properly 
with electronic ignition systems.

By the way, I use my unconverted RVI tach in the Elan with a Pertronix, 
a ballast wire, and a 3.0 ohm coil. The tach bounces, but not 
excessively, and I haven't been motivated yet to have it converted. 
Having said that, I want to eventually replace my dizzy with a Pertronix 
with an Ignitor II that is sitting on my shelf; that will require 
conversion of my tach to work properly, since I have to bypass the 
ballast wire and use a 1.5 ohm coil with that unit.

Bottom line is you don't have to go with replacing everything at once; 
try the Ignitor, see how it works. If more changes are needed, you can 
do that immediately, or swap back to points until you sort out the other 
details.

There's lots of information on the Pertronix site, including the following:


        What type of coil can I use with the Ignitor^(TM)? How do I
        check my coils resistance? (12V negative ground only)

To determine if your systems coil is compatible with the Ignitor, some 
measurements should be taken prior to installation of the Ignitor. 
Caution... While performing this test, never leave the ignition switch 
on for more than 30 seconds at a time.

Set your voltmeter to a 15 or 20-volt scale. Attach an 18 or 20 AWG 
jumper wire from the negative coil terminal to an engine ground. Attach 
positive (red) lead of your voltmeter to the positive side of the coil, 
and the negative (black) lead to an engine ground. Turn the ignition 
switch to the run position. Now read the voltage at the positive coil 
terminal. Turn the ignition switch off. If the voltage measured is 
approximately 12 volts, no resistance wire is present. A typical 
resistance wire will provide 9 - 6 volts.

The next step is to determine the resistance in the primary ignition. 
Label the wires attached to the coil terminals and note their 
appropriate location. Make sure that the ignition switch is off and 
disconnect all wires from the coil. Adjust your meter to the lowest ohm 
scale. If you are using an analog style meter make sure to zero the needle.

Measure from the negative terminal to the positive terminal. Write your 
measurement down.

Now the maximum system amperage can be determined, divide your voltage 
measurement by your coil resistance measurement. This will give you the 
system current or amperage.

Four and six cylinder engines should not exceed 4 amps. Eight cylinder 
engines should not exceed 8 amps. If the total amperage in your system 
is higher than the amount recommended for your application, you should 
install a ballast resistor.


          Example

Voltage 12
Resistance 1.5
12 / 1.5 = 8
Total amperage 8

Cheers,
Greg Tatarian



On 2/17/2010 10:05 AM, Mike Gianandrea wrote:
> Hey Greg,
>
> I have gotten pretty excited about putting the Pertronics in my TR4, 
> but your message sort of takes me back to my original reservations. In 
> reading your message, it would seem that replacing the points only is 
> only part of the job, thus it would seem that for proper performance, 
> one should replace the points, coil, and distributor, is this correct? 
> Also, I have Draeger gauges (not sure they read acurately now) in my 
> TR4, am I likely to have a problem with these? If I'm going to make a 
> change, I prefer to do a complete and correct job, and have my car 
> hummin. What are your recommendations?
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Tatarian" 
> <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing

From nobbc at sonic.net  Wed Feb 17 11:39:01 2010
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:39:01 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing
In-Reply-To: <2A7AF79DBC4746ED830863C90CF9AC30@mike>
References: <580476.68048.qm@smtp126.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<cba79041002170810x39456262s2daea2f9dc4014df@mail.gmail.com>
	<2A7AF79DBC4746ED830863C90CF9AC30@mike>
Message-ID: <4B7C37C5.8080908@sonic.net>

My original coil did work with the Pertronix but I got much better 
performance by replacing it with a Lucas Sport coil ($28 at Jordon's). 
I was able to increase the spark plug gap; the big, fat, hot spark fires 
up the engine even in the coldest weather now. You shouldn't have to 
replace your distributor however.

Ron
58 MGA

Mike Gianandrea wrote:

> Hey Greg,
> 
> I have gotten pretty excited about putting the Pertronics in my TR4, but 
> your message sort of takes me back to my original reservations. In 
> reading your message, it would seem that replacing the points only is 
> only part of the job, thus it would seem that for proper performance, 
> one should replace the points, coil, and distributor, is this correct? 
> Also, I have Draeger gauges (not sure they read acurately now) in my 
> TR4, am I likely to have a problem with these? If I'm going to make a 
> change, I prefer to do a complete and correct job, and have my car 
> hummin. What are your recommendations?
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Tatarian" <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing
> 
> 
>> I have a few observations and some experiences with Pertronix:
>>
>> First, the ignition timing will change after conversion. The trigger 
>> point
>> of the unit is different than with contact points, and most likely your
>> timing will be REALLY advanced, so keep that in mind.
>>
>> Next, the coil resistance is very important, and must be matched to the
>> existing wiring in the car and the type of Pertronix used (Ignitor vs.
>> Ignitor II vx. Ignitor III). Specifically, cars with ballast resistance
>> wires will affect the coil resistance selection, as will the conversion
>> unit. Most of the conversion units for our cars are Ignitor (not II or 
>> III),
>> but new distributors come with II or III versions, so be careful there.
>>
>> One effect of changing your ballast wire/coil configuration is your
>> tachometer; using a 1.5 ohm coil instead of a 3.0 ohm coil after 
>> removal of
>> the ballast wire will often result in a tachometer that does not read
>> correctly - often 2x the actual reading. In many cases, your 
>> tachometer will
>> bounce around no matter which coil/wire/Ignitor combination is selected.
>> This is due to the older type of triggering used in older cars. If you 
>> have
>> Smiths gauges, for example, and have an RVI movement tach, you will be
>> likely to have issues. If you have a later RVC tach, it will almost
>> certainly perform properly, due to the compatibility in circuitry with
>> electronic ignition. Old tachs can be converted, but that's easier 
>> done in
>> England than here, though there are one or two shops that handle the
>> conversion.
>>
>> What I have found is that it is generally safer to use a 3.0 ohm coil 
>> with
>> our without a ballast wire and have the Pertronix see extra resistance 
>> than
>> to use a 1.5 ohm coil without a ballast wire, even if that is the 
>> preferred
>> configuration, unless you convert your tach.
>>
>> There are other considerations when converting to Pertronix, and we can
>> cover those at the tech session if that's a popular subject.
>>
>> FWIW, I have Pertronix units on the Elan and TR6, and they function
>> flawlessly, and have since being installed. I don't keep a spare set of
>> points, but I do have a spare Pertronix. I've had plenty of points and
>> condensors fail or wear prematurely, so always used to keep spares of 
>> those,
>> although they are cheaper in comparison; I just always expect that 
>> something
>> will fail, and I'm not disappointed when it does. Hmm. Cynical of me...
>>
>> Spark on!
>>
>> Greg Tatarian
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Walter Kilchherr 
>> <wkilch at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>>
>>> I've heard nothing but good about Pertronics, it improved my Sprites
>>> performance. BUT, I've heard you can kill them by leaving the 
>>> ignition on
>>> too
>>> long without the engine running. It does hurt to have the old parts 
>>> in your
>>> car just in case.
>>>
>>> Walter
>>
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From rbrown at injexindustries.com  Wed Feb 17 11:55:18 2010
From: rbrown at injexindustries.com (Richard Brown)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:55:18 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing
In-Reply-To: <4B7C37C5.8080908@sonic.net>
References: <580476.68048.qm@smtp126.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<cba79041002170810x39456262s2daea2f9dc4014df@mail.gmail.com>
	<2A7AF79DBC4746ED830863C90CF9AC30@mike> <4B7C37C5.8080908@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294C982E65D75@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com>

 Ron, replacing the distributor to the Pertronix flame thrower programmable
model actually did much more in terms of improving perfromance/starting/smooth
running than just the installing the Pertronix ignition. It was like night and
day, I can pull below idle speed in 4th gear with no hiccups or spluttering
now.


Richard Brown

Engineering / New Programs-Manager

Injex Industries, Inc.

510.475.8309 / Direct

510.385.9161 / Cellular

510.476.1444 / Fax


-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:39 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing

My original coil did work with the Pertronix but I got much better performance
by replacing it with a Lucas Sport coil ($28 at Jordon's).
I was able to increase the spark plug gap; the big, fat, hot spark fires up
the engine even in the coldest weather now. You shouldn't have to replace your
distributor however.

Ron
58 MGA

Mike Gianandrea wrote:

> Hey Greg,
>
> I have gotten pretty excited about putting the Pertronics in my TR4,
> but your message sort of takes me back to my original reservations. In
> reading your message, it would seem that replacing the points only is
> only part of the job, thus it would seem that for proper performance,
> one should replace the points, coil, and distributor, is this correct?
> Also, I have Draeger gauges (not sure they read acurately now) in my
> TR4, am I likely to have a problem with these? If I'm going to make a
> change, I prefer to do a complete and correct job, and have my car
> hummin. What are your recommendations?
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Tatarian"
> <gtwincams at gmail.com>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing
>
>
>> I have a few observations and some experiences with Pertronix:
>>
>> First, the ignition timing will change after conversion. The trigger
>> point of the unit is different than with contact points, and most
>> likely your timing will be REALLY advanced, so keep that in mind.
>>
>> Next, the coil resistance is very important, and must be matched to
>> the existing wiring in the car and the type of Pertronix used (Ignitor vs.
>> Ignitor II vx. Ignitor III). Specifically, cars with ballast
>> resistance wires will affect the coil resistance selection, as will
>> the conversion unit. Most of the conversion units for our cars are
>> Ignitor (not II or III), but new distributors come with II or III
>> versions, so be careful there.
>>
>> One effect of changing your ballast wire/coil configuration is your
>> tachometer; using a 1.5 ohm coil instead of a 3.0 ohm coil after
>> removal of the ballast wire will often result in a tachometer that
>> does not read correctly - often 2x the actual reading. In many cases,
>> your tachometer will bounce around no matter which coil/wire/Ignitor
>> combination is selected.
>> This is due to the older type of triggering used in older cars. If
>> you have Smiths gauges, for example, and have an RVI movement tach,
>> you will be likely to have issues. If you have a later RVC tach, it
>> will almost certainly perform properly, due to the compatibility in
>> circuitry with electronic ignition. Old tachs can be converted, but
>> that's easier done in England than here, though there are one or two
>> shops that handle the conversion.
>>
>> What I have found is that it is generally safer to use a 3.0 ohm coil
>> with our without a ballast wire and have the Pertronix see extra
>> resistance than to use a 1.5 ohm coil without a ballast wire, even if
>> that is the preferred configuration, unless you convert your tach.
>>
>> There are other considerations when converting to Pertronix, and we
>> can cover those at the tech session if that's a popular subject.
>>
>> FWIW, I have Pertronix units on the Elan and TR6, and they function
>> flawlessly, and have since being installed. I don't keep a spare set
>> of points, but I do have a spare Pertronix. I've had plenty of points
>> and condensors fail or wear prematurely, so always used to keep
>> spares of those, although they are cheaper in comparison; I just
>> always expect that something will fail, and I'm not disappointed when
>> it does. Hmm. Cynical of me...
>>
>> Spark on!
>>
>> Greg Tatarian
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Walter Kilchherr
>> <wkilch at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>>
>>> I've heard nothing but good about Pertronics, it improved my Sprites
>>> performance. BUT, I've heard you can kill them by leaving the
>>> ignition on too long without the engine running. It does hurt to
>>> have the old parts in your car just in case.
>>>
>>> Walter
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>
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From wbain at sonic.net  Wed Feb 17 14:42:38 2010
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:42:38 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
In-Reply-To: <F9D2731F2F4C4848B9636B7551511086021A63E057@NAMAIL01.gs.adinternal.com>
References: <355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,
	<69250C5B005D46B08412655577AFFD27@mike>
	<BAY126-W204EC4EB5DC17CCDCDDD7CD8490@phx.gbl>
	<4B7B259D.1000604@gmail.com>
	<F9D2731F2F4C4848B9636B7551511086021A63E057@NAMAIL01.gs.adinternal.com>
Message-ID: <6EA01D9E-61C6-406F-B828-5833330BDB04@sonic.net>

Hi Krissy,
I took the wheels/tires to Big O in Rohnert Park. Wire wheels are not a
problem for them. Of course I did buy four tires from them. Not sure  
that
made a difference but I doubt it.
Hope this helps.

Wendell Bain
59 Morgan Plus 4

On Feb 16, 2010, at 3:27 PM, Klein, Kris wrote:

> My Healey tire went flat in the garage and don't know where to take  
> it in
> around here (Windsor) to have it repaired.  I called Les Schwab and  
> they told
> me to bring it in and they would look at it to see if they could  
> repair it but
> I thought instead of wasting my time, I would email the group to  
> see what is
> recommended.
> Thanks,
> Krissy Klein
> 59 Austin Healey 3000 BT7
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- 
> bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:09 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
>
> I'm working on Robin as we speak, Tim. I'll get back to you when he  
> decides
> if/how it fits into his schedule.
> Sounds like we've got some interest in the event, so I'll get this  
> scheduled
> and notify the group soon.
> Cheers,
> Greg
>
>
>
> On 2/16/2010 2:53 PM, TIM THRESH wrote:
>> I installed Pertronix replacement inside the existing Lucas
>> distributor- easy to do. It makes a great difference to high end  
>> revs,
>> and zero points wear(=no adjustments).
>>
>>
>>
>> After that tune-ups seem to be all about timing, valves and mixture.
>> The issue may be in what order!
>>
>>
>>
>> Robin used to do all this stuff for his business, so should be ideal
>> to run a session??
>>
>>
>>
>> Tim Thresh
>>
>> 1958 MGA
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From wbain at sonic.net  Wed Feb 17 14:45:25 2010
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:45:25 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
In-Reply-To: <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294C982E65D36@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com>
References: <355506.47653.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,
	<69250C5B005D46B08412655577AFFD27@mike>
	<BAY126-W204EC4EB5DC17CCDCDDD7CD8490@phx.gbl>
	<4B7B259D.1000604@gmail.com>
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Hi Krissy,
Another reason to go to Big O is the owner (I think) drives
a BMC Mini Cooper. Very familiar with British cars.
As Richard indicated, ask for Tom.

Cheers,

Wendell Bain
59 Morgan Plus 4

On Feb 16, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Richard Brown wrote:

>  I use Big O in Rohnert Park, they are very used to working on cars  
> for
> British European Motors (Mark Singletons place), ask for Tom.
> I've had Petronix electronic ignition for 6 years now with no  
> problems, and
> last Novemeber I added the Petronix Flamethrower Distributer and  
> coil, which
> has 16 (?) different program choices for torque and HP curves. It  
> runs very
> smooth and clean now, all thru the rev range.
>
> Richard Brown
> Primose '68 XKE Coupe
>
>
> Richard Brown
>
> Engineering / New Programs-Manager
>
> Injex Industries, Inc.
>
> 510.475.8309 / Direct
>
> 510.385.9161 / Cellular
>
> 510.476.1444 / Fax
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- 
> bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Klein, Kris
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:56 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
>
> Yes it is tubed.
> KK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- 
> bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Richard Brown
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:41 PM
> To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
>
> Is it tubed?
>
>
> Richard Brown
>
> Engineering / New Programs-Manager
>
> Injex Industries, Inc.
>
> 510.475.8309 / Direct
>
> 510.385.9161 / Cellular
>
> 510.476.1444 / Fax
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- 
> bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Klein, Kris
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:27 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: [Nobbc] Spoke wire wheel
>
> My Healey tire went flat in the garage and don't know where to take  
> it in
> around here (Windsor) to have it repaired.  I called Les Schwab and  
> they told
> me to bring it in and they would look at it to see if they could  
> repair it but
> I thought instead of wasting my time, I would email the group to  
> see what is
> recommended.
> Thanks,
> Krissy Klein
> 59 Austin Healey 3000 BT7
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- 
> bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Greg Tatarian
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:09 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Plans for next one?
>
> I'm working on Robin as we speak, Tim. I'll get back to you when he  
> decides
> if/how it fits into his schedule.
> Sounds like we've got some interest in the event, so I'll get this  
> scheduled
> and notify the group soon.
> Cheers,
> Greg
>
>
>
> On 2/16/2010 2:53 PM, TIM THRESH wrote:
>> I installed Pertronix replacement inside the existing Lucas
>> distributor- easy to do. It makes a great difference to high end  
>> revs,
>> and zero points wear(=no adjustments).
>>
>>
>>
>> After that tune-ups seem to be all about timing, valves and mixture.
>> The issue may be in what order!
>>
>>
>>
>> Robin used to do all this stuff for his business, so should be ideal
>> to run a session??
>>
>>
>>
>> Tim Thresh
>>
>> 1958 MGA
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From DPaige at srcity.org  Thu Feb 18 10:24:34 2010
From: DPaige at srcity.org (Paige, Dean)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:24:34 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing
In-Reply-To: <cba79041002170810x39456262s2daea2f9dc4014df@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C1CC5F210953FD48A0BC44E8720808F81385DE@Mail4.sr.local>

Lots of talk about the small stuff. Yadda yadda yadda! I first put a
Pertronix in my 73 TR-6 in the early 90's. First unit had a flaw in the
magnet ring. It came apart. Changes were made by the manufacturer.
Second installation has served me well for the 20 years it has now been
in operation. Of course timing and carbs required adjustment. Standard
coil has been in continuous use. Never noticed any change in Tach
readings, though I think I'm due for a Tach and speedo overhaul. With a
mechanical Tach I just don't see how the reading could change unless the
Tach was failing. Electric Tach? I guess there could be issues. Anyhow
the difference in performance was and still is substantial. No more
points slippage, no more having to check the timing regularly and most
important a smooth and notable power increase throughout the rpm range.

Go for the Pertronix. For the price you pay it is more than worth it.

I hate to be missing the rides lately. The TR-6 flywheel ring gear is
toast. Looks like it was a starter problem. The front surface of the
ring gear was crunched to the point that the starter gear will no longer
engage in the ring gear. Pulling the tranny in the next couple of weeks.
Will replace the ring gear and install a gear reduction starter. Also
seriously considering a Toyota 5 speed tranny for the beast. Hope to be
on the road again early spring. So many other project in the works. So
little time! I should probably just join the rides in the Jag VDP. Just
not the same as the roadster though.

On the upside it looks like I will retire in July with a pension that
provides 80% of my salary til I croak. Plus the City is offering a
substantial management buyout for those of us topped out long in the
tooth managers. All that and a hunk of dough in deferred income should
keep me happy. Will likely do some consulting along the way too. Never
in my wildest dream would I have thought that I would work for any one
entity for over 20 years. Doc says I'm in hale and hardy and I expect to
keep it that way. I really do need to get out from behind this desk and
spend the rest of my days in the great outdoors. Quite the quantum leap
though and a little intimidating.

Deano



-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Gregory Tatarian
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:11 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Petronix ignition testing

I have a few observations and some experiences with Pertronix:

First, the ignition timing will change after conversion. The trigger
point of the unit is different than with contact points, and most likely
your timing will be REALLY advanced, so keep that in mind.

Next, the coil resistance is very important, and must be matched to the
existing wiring in the car and the type of Pertronix used (Ignitor vs.
Ignitor II vx. Ignitor III). Specifically, cars with ballast resistance
wires will affect the coil resistance selection, as will the conversion
unit. Most of the conversion units for our cars are Ignitor (not II or
III), but new distributors come with II or III versions, so be careful
there.

One effect of changing your ballast wire/coil configuration is your
tachometer; using a 1.5 ohm coil instead of a 3.0 ohm coil after removal
of the ballast wire will often result in a tachometer that does not read
correctly - often 2x the actual reading. In many cases, your tachometer
will bounce around no matter which coil/wire/Ignitor combination is
selected.
This is due to the older type of triggering used in older cars. If you
have Smiths gauges, for example, and have an RVI movement tach, you will
be likely to have issues. If you have a later RVC tach, it will almost
certainly perform properly, due to the compatibility in circuitry with
electronic ignition. Old tachs can be converted, but that's easier done
in England than here, though there are one or two shops that handle the
conversion.

What I have found is that it is generally safer to use a 3.0 ohm coil
with our without a ballast wire and have the Pertronix see extra
resistance than to use a 1.5 ohm coil without a ballast wire, even if
that is the preferred configuration, unless you convert your tach.

There are other considerations when converting to Pertronix, and we can
cover those at the tech session if that's a popular subject.

FWIW, I have Pertronix units on the Elan and TR6, and they function
flawlessly, and have since being installed. I don't keep a spare set of
points, but I do have a spare Pertronix. I've had plenty of points and
condensors fail or wear prematurely, so always used to keep spares of
those, although they are cheaper in comparison; I just always expect
that something will fail, and I'm not disappointed when it does. Hmm.
Cynical of me...

Spark on!

Greg Tatarian

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Walter Kilchherr
<wkilch at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> I've heard nothing but good about Pertronics, it improved my Sprites
> performance. BUT, I've heard you can kill them by leaving the ignition

> on too long without the engine running. It does hurt to have the old
> parts in your car just in case.
>
> Walter
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From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Thu Feb 18 18:25:41 2010
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:25:41 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Petronix testing procedure
Message-ID: <472489.47217.qm@smtp126.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I contacted Petronix directly and they sent me the testing procedure for the
pick up module.  Unfortunately both of my modules are kaput.  I'm still a
fan of Petronix even with this module failure and will probably purchase
some replacements in the near future.  I agree with all the positive
comments that everyone made.  I can't attach the testing procedure because
the list does not allow attachments but would be pleased to forward it to
anyone who contacts me directly.

 

Andy - Petronixless.

From sarto477 at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 20 23:53:56 2010
From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau)
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 22:53:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] Lotus owners with webers
Message-ID: <446579.14674.qm@web113511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hello All--- 
I want to make an announcement that as of today, I now have perfectly tuned
151 webers. No bucking, no flat spots, smooth at idle to wide open. It pulls,
in all gears, like it had 15 more HP. and when it hit 4,500 rpm it had a surge
of new power. Hard to believe, an old friend, Keith Franck, after years of
research, has re-engineered the E-tubes and hypojets to perfection. What he
has done to webers is quite scientific and over my head so I copied a post
below of some of the details from Keith's site. 
Sarto

>Re: Sarto's Tuneup
> He already had my experimental e-tubes that were 8.35mm in diameter so the
impedance is okay. Next we found the front carb had the fuel level set too
high by 1mm so we lowered it back down to 25mm. The first set of hypojets to
get installed were .020" ones and when the rpms was elevated using the idle
speed screw it got hung at about 2000rpms and it was spitting, that's a dead
giveaway clue it's too lean! The stock idlejets were 45 something so next we
stuck in .026" hypojets. That did the trick, it immediately revved up and down
like a sewing machine. Went for a test drive and it runs absolutely
flawlessly. The only issue to resolve is whether or not it needs apertures in
the first progressive holes because it did exhibit symptoms of having a lazy
idle. Sarto installed a set of temporary apertures and just drove off to test
if those will in fact make the slight lazy idle symptom go away. Depending on
how that goes will determine if we need to glue in
 the permanent apertures or not.
> -Keith Franck
>
He did not need the apertures after all, reducing the idle speed a tad is all
it took to stop the lazy idle symptom. Gave him some of the 1mm and 2mm
spacers to elevate the e-tubes to test later on. He left to go over to Mike
Ostrov's to have Mike see the results firsthand. It runs like sewing machine
is the best way I can describe it but also hauls ass when you want too.

We did the tuning without using an AFM. Only tuned it at this juncture to get
the tractability perfect. I might be able to improve the fuel mileage a bit
more but he needs to drive it to determine what it's getting now.
-Keith
One thing that is becoming obvious to me is the 151 carb responds to my
jetting in a spectacular fashion. The improvement is pronounced enough that
I'm seriously considering shelving my original 18s and go buy some new 151s
with three progressive holes. I have no idea why this is the case but it's for
real.
-Keith Franck
Mike Ostrov drove my Elan and confirmed that it runs like no other Elan with
webers.
A new day for webers
Sarto
_________________
lotus elan 1966 S3 FHC 
36/5785 
LHD 

From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Sun Feb 21 18:49:33 2010
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 17:49:33 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Lotus owners with webers
In-Reply-To: <446579.14674.qm@web113511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <421410.68925.qm@smtp110.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Sarto, congratulations on getting the webers on your Coupe tuned to
perfection.  It sounds fantastic and I know that you're not someone to
exaggerate.  Well done.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Sarto Rocheleau
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 10:54 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] Lotus owners with webers

Hello All--- 
I want to make an announcement that as of today, I now have perfectly tuned
151 webers. No bucking, no flat spots, smooth at idle to wide open. It
pulls,
in all gears, like it had 15 more HP. and when it hit 4,500 rpm it had a
surge
of new power. Hard to believe, an old friend, Keith Franck, after years of
research, has re-engineered the E-tubes and hypojets to perfection. What he
has done to webers is quite scientific and over my head so I copied a post
below of some of the details from Keith's site. 
Sarto

>Re: Sarto's Tuneup
> He already had my experimental e-tubes that were 8.35mm in diameter so the
impedance is okay. Next we found the front carb had the fuel level set too
high by 1mm so we lowered it back down to 25mm. The first set of hypojets to
get installed were .020" ones and when the rpms was elevated using the idle
speed screw it got hung at about 2000rpms and it was spitting, that's a dead
giveaway clue it's too lean! The stock idlejets were 45 something so next we
stuck in .026" hypojets. That did the trick, it immediately revved up and
down
like a sewing machine. Went for a test drive and it runs absolutely
flawlessly. The only issue to resolve is whether or not it needs apertures
in
the first progressive holes because it did exhibit symptoms of having a lazy
idle. Sarto installed a set of temporary apertures and just drove off to
test
if those will in fact make the slight lazy idle symptom go away. Depending
on
how that goes will determine if we need to glue in
 the permanent apertures or not.
> -Keith Franck
>
He did not need the apertures after all, reducing the idle speed a tad is
all
it took to stop the lazy idle symptom. Gave him some of the 1mm and 2mm
spacers to elevate the e-tubes to test later on. He left to go over to Mike
Ostrov's to have Mike see the results firsthand. It runs like sewing machine
is the best way I can describe it but also hauls ass when you want too.

We did the tuning without using an AFM. Only tuned it at this juncture to
get
the tractability perfect. I might be able to improve the fuel mileage a bit
more but he needs to drive it to determine what it's getting now.
-Keith
One thing that is becoming obvious to me is the 151 carb responds to my
jetting in a spectacular fashion. The improvement is pronounced enough that
I'm seriously considering shelving my original 18s and go buy some new 151s
with three progressive holes. I have no idea why this is the case but it's
for
real.
-Keith Franck
Mike Ostrov drove my Elan and confirmed that it runs like no other Elan with
webers.
A new day for webers
Sarto
_________________
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36/5785 
LHD 
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From tonykorman at sbcglobal.net  Mon Feb 22 18:41:05 2010
From: tonykorman at sbcglobal.net (Tony Korman)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:41:05 -0600
Subject: [Nobbc] Lotus owners with webers
In-Reply-To: <446579.14674.qm@web113511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <446579.14674.qm@web113511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <63141331-D24D-4874-9B3B-4F9F1959612E@sbcglobal.net>

Can whoever did it do Strombergs

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:53 AM, Sarto Rocheleau <sarto477 at yahoo.com>  
wrote:

> Hello All---
> I want to make an announcement that as of today, I now have  
> perfectly tuned
> 151 webers. No bucking, no flat spots, smooth at idle to wide open.  
> It pulls,
> in all gears, like it had 15 more HP. and when it hit 4,500 rpm it  
> had a surge
> of new power. Hard to believe, an old friend, Keith Franck, after  
> years of
> research, has re-engineered the E-tubes and hypojets to perfection.  
> What he
> has done to webers is quite scientific and over my head so I copied  
> a post
> below of some of the details from Keith's site.
> Sarto
>
>> Re: Sarto's Tuneup
>> He already had my experimental e-tubes that were 8.35mm in diameter  
>> so the
> impedance is okay. Next we found the front carb had the fuel level  
> set too
> high by 1mm so we lowered it back down to 25mm. The first set of  
> hypojets to
> get installed were .020" ones and when the rpms was elevated using  
> the idle
> speed screw it got hung at about 2000rpms and it was spitting,  
> that's a dead
> giveaway clue it's too lean! The stock idlejets were 45 something so  
> next we
> stuck in .026" hypojets. That did the trick, it immediately revved  
> up and down
> like a sewing machine. Went for a test drive and it runs absolutely
> flawlessly. The only issue to resolve is whether or not it needs  
> apertures in
> the first progressive holes because it did exhibit symptoms of  
> having a lazy
> idle. Sarto installed a set of temporary apertures and just drove  
> off to test
> if those will in fact make the slight lazy idle symptom go away.  
> Depending on
> how that goes will determine if we need to glue in
> the permanent apertures or not.
>> -Keith Franck
>>
> He did not need the apertures after all, reducing the idle speed a  
> tad is all
> it took to stop the lazy idle symptom. Gave him some of the 1mm and  
> 2mm
> spacers to elevate the e-tubes to test later on. He left to go over  
> to Mike
> Ostrov's to have Mike see the results firsthand. It runs like sewing  
> machine
> is the best way I can describe it but also hauls ass when you want  
> too.
>
> We did the tuning without using an AFM. Only tuned it at this  
> juncture to get
> the tractability perfect. I might be able to improve the fuel  
> mileage a bit
> more but he needs to drive it to determine what it's getting now.
> -Keith
> One thing that is becoming obvious to me is the 151 carb responds to  
> my
> jetting in a spectacular fashion. The improvement is pronounced  
> enough that
> I'm seriously considering shelving my original 18s and go buy some  
> new 151s
> with three progressive holes. I have no idea why this is the case  
> but it's for
> real.
> -Keith Franck
> Mike Ostrov drove my Elan and confirmed that it runs like no other  
> Elan with
> webers.
> A new day for webers
> Sarto
> _________________
> lotus elan 1966 S3 FHC
> 36/5785
> LHD
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Mon Feb 22 20:03:55 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (gtwincams at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 03:03:55 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] Lotus owners with webers
In-Reply-To: <63141331-D24D-4874-9B3B-4F9F1959612E@sbcglobal.net>
References: <446579.14674.qm@web113511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><63141331-D24D-4874-9B3B-4F9F1959612E@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.1.1266894272.6560.nobbc@autox.team.net>

Different animal, Tony. Webers and similar fixed choke carbs work differently than CD carbs like Strombergs and SUs.
Keith Frank is the Weber jet developer Sarto is referring to, and in my conversations with him over the years he has indicated that he is not a ZS expert. Are you having problems with your carbs?
Greg Tatarian
Elan S4
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Korman <tonykorman at sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:41:05 
To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Lotus owners with webers

Can whoever did it do Strombergs

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:53 AM, Sarto Rocheleau <sarto477 at yahoo.com>  
wrote:

> Hello All---
> I want to make an announcement that as of today, I now have  
> perfectly tuned
> 151 webers. No bucking, no flat spots, smooth at idle to wide open.  
> It pulls,
> in all gears, like it had 15 more HP. and when it hit 4,500 rpm it  
> had a surge
> of new power. Hard to believe, an old friend, Keith Franck, after  
> years of
> research, has re-engineered the E-tubes and hypojets to perfection.  
> What he
> has done to webers is quite scientific and over my head so I copied  
> a post
> below of some of the details from Keith's site.
> Sarto
>
>> Re: Sarto's Tuneup
>> He already had my experimental e-tubes that were 8.35mm in diameter  
>> so the
> impedance is okay. Next we found the front carb had the fuel level  
> set too
> high by 1mm so we lowered it back down to 25mm. The first set of  
> hypojets to
> get installed were .020" ones and when the rpms was elevated using  
> the idle
> speed screw it got hung at about 2000rpms and it was spitting,  
> that's a dead
> giveaway clue it's too lean! The stock idlejets were 45 something so  
> next we
> stuck in .026" hypojets. That did the trick, it immediately revved  
> up and down
> like a sewing machine. Went for a test drive and it runs absolutely
> flawlessly. The only issue to resolve is whether or not it needs  
> apertures in
> the first progressive holes because it did exhibit symptoms of  
> having a lazy
> idle. Sarto installed a set of temporary apertures and just drove  
> off to test
> if those will in fact make the slight lazy idle symptom go away.  
> Depending on
> how that goes will determine if we need to glue in
> the permanent apertures or not.
>> -Keith Franck
>>
> He did not need the apertures after all, reducing the idle speed a  
> tad is all
> it took to stop the lazy idle symptom. Gave him some of the 1mm and  
> 2mm
> spacers to elevate the e-tubes to test later on. He left to go over  
> to Mike
> Ostrov's to have Mike see the results firsthand. It runs like sewing  
> machine
> is the best way I can describe it but also hauls ass when you want  
> too.
>
> We did the tuning without using an AFM. Only tuned it at this  
> juncture to get
> the tractability perfect. I might be able to improve the fuel  
> mileage a bit
> more but he needs to drive it to determine what it's getting now.
> -Keith
> One thing that is becoming obvious to me is the 151 carb responds to  
> my
> jetting in a spectacular fashion. The improvement is pronounced  
> enough that
> I'm seriously considering shelving my original 18s and go buy some  
> new 151s
> with three progressive holes. I have no idea why this is the case  
> but it's for
> real.
> -Keith Franck
> Mike Ostrov drove my Elan and confirmed that it runs like no other  
> Elan with
> webers.
> A new day for webers
> Sarto
> _________________
> lotus elan 1966 S3 FHC
> 36/5785
> LHD
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From tonykorman at sbcglobal.net  Mon Feb 22 20:55:33 2010
From: tonykorman at sbcglobal.net (Tony Korman)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:55:33 -0600
Subject: [Nobbc] Lotus owners with webers
In-Reply-To: <20100223033224.0BB53187894@autox.team.net>
References: <446579.14674.qm@web113511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><63141331-D24D-4874-9B3B-4F9F1959612E@sbcglobal.net>
	<20100223033224.0BB53187894@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <F7082F93-355A-492B-97A1-3EAC0B18A25E@sbcglobal.net>

They work but I feel they could do better. Would like another opinion
Tk

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 22, 2010, at 9:03 PM, gtwincams at gmail.com wrote:

> Different animal, Tony. Webers and similar fixed choke carbs work  
> differently than CD carbs like Strombergs and SUs.
> Keith Frank is the Weber jet developer Sarto is referring to, and in  
> my conversations with him over the years he has indicated that he is  
> not a ZS expert. Are you having problems with your carbs?
> Greg Tatarian
> Elan S4
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Korman <tonykorman at sbcglobal.net>
> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:41:05
> To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Lotus owners with webers
>
> Can whoever did it do Strombergs
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:53 AM, Sarto Rocheleau <sarto477 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello All---
>> I want to make an announcement that as of today, I now have
>> perfectly tuned
>> 151 webers. No bucking, no flat spots, smooth at idle to wide open.
>> It pulls,
>> in all gears, like it had 15 more HP. and when it hit 4,500 rpm it
>> had a surge
>> of new power. Hard to believe, an old friend, Keith Franck, after
>> years of
>> research, has re-engineered the E-tubes and hypojets to perfection.
>> What he
>> has done to webers is quite scientific and over my head so I copied
>> a post
>> below of some of the details from Keith's site.
>> Sarto
>>
>>> Re: Sarto's Tuneup
>>> He already had my experimental e-tubes that were 8.35mm in diameter
>>> so the
>> impedance is okay. Next we found the front carb had the fuel level
>> set too
>> high by 1mm so we lowered it back down to 25mm. The first set of
>> hypojets to
>> get installed were .020" ones and when the rpms was elevated using
>> the idle
>> speed screw it got hung at about 2000rpms and it was spitting,
>> that's a dead
>> giveaway clue it's too lean! The stock idlejets were 45 something so
>> next we
>> stuck in .026" hypojets. That did the trick, it immediately revved
>> up and down
>> like a sewing machine. Went for a test drive and it runs absolutely
>> flawlessly. The only issue to resolve is whether or not it needs
>> apertures in
>> the first progressive holes because it did exhibit symptoms of
>> having a lazy
>> idle. Sarto installed a set of temporary apertures and just drove
>> off to test
>> if those will in fact make the slight lazy idle symptom go away.
>> Depending on
>> how that goes will determine if we need to glue in
>> the permanent apertures or not.
>>> -Keith Franck
>>>
>> He did not need the apertures after all, reducing the idle speed a
>> tad is all
>> it took to stop the lazy idle symptom. Gave him some of the 1mm and
>> 2mm
>> spacers to elevate the e-tubes to test later on. He left to go over
>> to Mike
>> Ostrov's to have Mike see the results firsthand. It runs like sewing
>> machine
>> is the best way I can describe it but also hauls ass when you want
>> too.
>>
>> We did the tuning without using an AFM. Only tuned it at this
>> juncture to get
>> the tractability perfect. I might be able to improve the fuel
>> mileage a bit
>> more but he needs to drive it to determine what it's getting now.
>> -Keith
>> One thing that is becoming obvious to me is the 151 carb responds to
>> my
>> jetting in a spectacular fashion. The improvement is pronounced
>> enough that
>> I'm seriously considering shelving my original 18s and go buy some
>> new 151s
>> with three progressive holes. I have no idea why this is the case
>> but it's for
>> real.
>> -Keith Franck
>> Mike Ostrov drove my Elan and confirmed that it runs like no other
>> Elan with
>> webers.
>> A new day for webers
>> Sarto
>> _________________
>> lotus elan 1966 S3 FHC
>> 36/5785
>> LHD
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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From gtwincams at gmail.com  Mon Feb 22 21:20:45 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (gtwincams at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:20:45 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] Lotus owners with webers
In-Reply-To: <F7082F93-355A-492B-97A1-3EAC0B18A25E@sbcglobal.net>
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Tony,
What are you driving?
Greg
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Korman <tonykorman at sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:55:33 
To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Lotus owners with webers

They work but I feel they could do better. Would like another opinion
Tk

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On Feb 22, 2010, at 9:03 PM, gtwincams at gmail.com wrote:

> Different animal, Tony. Webers and similar fixed choke carbs work  
> differently than CD carbs like Strombergs and SUs.
> Keith Frank is the Weber jet developer Sarto is referring to, and in  
> my conversations with him over the years he has indicated that he is  
> not a ZS expert. Are you having problems with your carbs?
> Greg Tatarian
> Elan S4
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Korman <tonykorman at sbcglobal.net>
> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:41:05
> To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Lotus owners with webers
>
> Can whoever did it do Strombergs
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:53 AM, Sarto Rocheleau <sarto477 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello All---
>> I want to make an announcement that as of today, I now have
>> perfectly tuned
>> 151 webers. No bucking, no flat spots, smooth at idle to wide open.
>> It pulls,
>> in all gears, like it had 15 more HP. and when it hit 4,500 rpm it
>> had a surge
>> of new power. Hard to believe, an old friend, Keith Franck, after
>> years of
>> research, has re-engineered the E-tubes and hypojets to perfection.
>> What he
>> has done to webers is quite scientific and over my head so I copied
>> a post
>> below of some of the details from Keith's site.
>> Sarto
>>
>>> Re: Sarto's Tuneup
>>> He already had my experimental e-tubes that were 8.35mm in diameter
>>> so the
>> impedance is okay. Next we found the front carb had the fuel level
>> set too
>> high by 1mm so we lowered it back down to 25mm. The first set of
>> hypojets to
>> get installed were .020" ones and when the rpms was elevated using
>> the idle
>> speed screw it got hung at about 2000rpms and it was spitting,
>> that's a dead
>> giveaway clue it's too lean! The stock idlejets were 45 something so
>> next we
>> stuck in .026" hypojets. That did the trick, it immediately revved
>> up and down
>> like a sewing machine. Went for a test drive and it runs absolutely
>> flawlessly. The only issue to resolve is whether or not it needs
>> apertures in
>> the first progressive holes because it did exhibit symptoms of
>> having a lazy
>> idle. Sarto installed a set of temporary apertures and just drove
>> off to test
>> if those will in fact make the slight lazy idle symptom go away.
>> Depending on
>> how that goes will determine if we need to glue in
>> the permanent apertures or not.
>>> -Keith Franck
>>>
>> He did not need the apertures after all, reducing the idle speed a
>> tad is all
>> it took to stop the lazy idle symptom. Gave him some of the 1mm and
>> 2mm
>> spacers to elevate the e-tubes to test later on. He left to go over
>> to Mike
>> Ostrov's to have Mike see the results firsthand. It runs like sewing
>> machine
>> is the best way I can describe it but also hauls ass when you want
>> too.
>>
>> We did the tuning without using an AFM. Only tuned it at this
>> juncture to get
>> the tractability perfect. I might be able to improve the fuel
>> mileage a bit
>> more but he needs to drive it to determine what it's getting now.
>> -Keith
>> One thing that is becoming obvious to me is the 151 carb responds to
>> my
>> jetting in a spectacular fashion. The improvement is pronounced
>> enough that
>> I'm seriously considering shelving my original 18s and go buy some
>> new 151s
>> with three progressive holes. I have no idea why this is the case
>> but it's for
>> real.
>> -Keith Franck
>> Mike Ostrov drove my Elan and confirmed that it runs like no other
>> Elan with
>> webers.
>> A new day for webers
>> Sarto
>> _________________
>> lotus elan 1966 S3 FHC
>> 36/5785
>> LHD
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From tonykorman at sbcglobal.net  Tue Feb 23 07:52:28 2010
From: tonykorman at sbcglobal.net (Tony Korman)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:52:28 -0600
Subject: [Nobbc] Lotus owners with webers
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TR6
thanks
I have reason to believe there is a vacuum leak at the intake gasket  
that may have an impact also
Thanks
Tony

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On Feb 22, 2010, at 10:20 PM, gtwincams at gmail.com wrote:

> Tony,
> What are you driving?
> Greg
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Korman <tonykorman at sbcglobal.net>
> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:55:33
> To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Lotus owners with webers
>
> They work but I feel they could do better. Would like another opinion
> Tk
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 22, 2010, at 9:03 PM, gtwincams at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Different animal, Tony. Webers and similar fixed choke carbs work
>> differently than CD carbs like Strombergs and SUs.
>> Keith Frank is the Weber jet developer Sarto is referring to, and in
>> my conversations with him over the years he has indicated that he is
>> not a ZS expert. Are you having problems with your carbs?
>> Greg Tatarian
>> Elan S4
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tony Korman <tonykorman at sbcglobal.net>
>> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:41:05
>> To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Lotus owners with webers
>>
>> Can whoever did it do Strombergs
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:53 AM, Sarto Rocheleau <sarto477 at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All---
>>> I want to make an announcement that as of today, I now have
>>> perfectly tuned
>>> 151 webers. No bucking, no flat spots, smooth at idle to wide open.
>>> It pulls,
>>> in all gears, like it had 15 more HP. and when it hit 4,500 rpm it
>>> had a surge
>>> of new power. Hard to believe, an old friend, Keith Franck, after
>>> years of
>>> research, has re-engineered the E-tubes and hypojets to perfection.
>>> What he
>>> has done to webers is quite scientific and over my head so I copied
>>> a post
>>> below of some of the details from Keith's site.
>>> Sarto
>>>
>>>> Re: Sarto's Tuneup
>>>> He already had my experimental e-tubes that were 8.35mm in diameter
>>>> so the
>>> impedance is okay. Next we found the front carb had the fuel level
>>> set too
>>> high by 1mm so we lowered it back down to 25mm. The first set of
>>> hypojets to
>>> get installed were .020" ones and when the rpms was elevated using
>>> the idle
>>> speed screw it got hung at about 2000rpms and it was spitting,
>>> that's a dead
>>> giveaway clue it's too lean! The stock idlejets were 45 something so
>>> next we
>>> stuck in .026" hypojets. That did the trick, it immediately revved
>>> up and down
>>> like a sewing machine. Went for a test drive and it runs absolutely
>>> flawlessly. The only issue to resolve is whether or not it needs
>>> apertures in
>>> the first progressive holes because it did exhibit symptoms of
>>> having a lazy
>>> idle. Sarto installed a set of temporary apertures and just drove
>>> off to test
>>> if those will in fact make the slight lazy idle symptom go away.
>>> Depending on
>>> how that goes will determine if we need to glue in
>>> the permanent apertures or not.
>>>> -Keith Franck
>>>>
>>> He did not need the apertures after all, reducing the idle speed a
>>> tad is all
>>> it took to stop the lazy idle symptom. Gave him some of the 1mm and
>>> 2mm
>>> spacers to elevate the e-tubes to test later on. He left to go over
>>> to Mike
>>> Ostrov's to have Mike see the results firsthand. It runs like sewing
>>> machine
>>> is the best way I can describe it but also hauls ass when you want
>>> too.
>>>
>>> We did the tuning without using an AFM. Only tuned it at this
>>> juncture to get
>>> the tractability perfect. I might be able to improve the fuel
>>> mileage a bit
>>> more but he needs to drive it to determine what it's getting now.
>>> -Keith
>>> One thing that is becoming obvious to me is the 151 carb responds to
>>> my
>>> jetting in a spectacular fashion. The improvement is pronounced
>>> enough that
>>> I'm seriously considering shelving my original 18s and go buy some
>>> new 151s
>>> with three progressive holes. I have no idea why this is the case
>>> but it's for
>>> real.
>>> -Keith Franck
>>> Mike Ostrov drove my Elan and confirmed that it runs like no other
>>> Elan with
>>> webers.
>>> A new day for webers
>>> Sarto
>>> _________________
>>> lotus elan 1966 S3 FHC
>>> 36/5785
>>> LHD
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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From wbain at sonic.net  Wed Feb 24 15:53:22 2010
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:53:22 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Lotus owners with webers
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Glad to hear your experience with Webers turned out well. I spent a  
weekend
at the Monterey Pre-Historics helping a friend tune a pair of 45 DCOE  
side
draft carbs. We got it to run, but they were not is good shape and he  
ended
up replacing them with new units. I understand that is quite  
difficult now.

Wendell

On Feb 20, 2010, at 10:53 PM, Sarto Rocheleau wrote:

> Hello All---
> I want to make an announcement that as of today, I now have  
> perfectly tuned
> 151 webers. No bucking, no flat spots, smooth at idle to wide open.  
> It pulls,
> in all gears, like it had 15 more HP. and when it hit 4,500 rpm it  
> had a surge
> of new power. Hard to believe, an old friend, Keith Franck, after  
> years of
> research, has re-engineered the E-tubes and hypojets to perfection.  
> What he
> has done to webers is quite scientific and over my head so I copied  
> a post
> below of some of the details from Keith's site.
> Sarto
>
>> Re: Sarto's Tuneup
>> He already had my experimental e-tubes that were 8.35mm in  
>> diameter so the
> impedance is okay. Next we found the front carb had the fuel level  
> set too
> high by 1mm so we lowered it back down to 25mm. The first set of  
> hypojets to
> get installed were .020" ones and when the rpms was elevated using  
> the idle
> speed screw it got hung at about 2000rpms and it was spitting,  
> that's a dead
> giveaway clue it's too lean! The stock idlejets were 45 something  
> so next we
> stuck in .026" hypojets. That did the trick, it immediately revved  
> up and down
> like a sewing machine. Went for a test drive and it runs absolutely
> flawlessly. The only issue to resolve is whether or not it needs  
> apertures in
> the first progressive holes because it did exhibit symptoms of  
> having a lazy
> idle. Sarto installed a set of temporary apertures and just drove  
> off to test
> if those will in fact make the slight lazy idle symptom go away.  
> Depending on
> how that goes will determine if we need to glue in
>  the permanent apertures or not.
>> -Keith Franck
>>
> He did not need the apertures after all, reducing the idle speed a  
> tad is all
> it took to stop the lazy idle symptom. Gave him some of the 1mm and  
> 2mm
> spacers to elevate the e-tubes to test later on. He left to go over  
> to Mike
> Ostrov's to have Mike see the results firsthand. It runs like  
> sewing machine
> is the best way I can describe it but also hauls ass when you want  
> too.
>
> We did the tuning without using an AFM. Only tuned it at this  
> juncture to get
> the tractability perfect. I might be able to improve the fuel  
> mileage a bit
> more but he needs to drive it to determine what it's getting now.
> -Keith
> One thing that is becoming obvious to me is the 151 carb responds  
> to my
> jetting in a spectacular fashion. The improvement is pronounced  
> enough that
> I'm seriously considering shelving my original 18s and go buy some  
> new 151s
> with three progressive holes. I have no idea why this is the case  
> but it's for
> real.
> -Keith Franck
> Mike Ostrov drove my Elan and confirmed that it runs like no other  
> Elan with
> webers.
> A new day for webers
> Sarto
> _________________
> lotus elan 1966 S3 FHC
> 36/5785
> LHD
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From gtwincams at gmail.com  Wed Feb 24 16:40:30 2010
From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:40:30 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Lotus owners with webers
In-Reply-To: <281E2E5C-7195-4917-9684-F5BE450F0AEE@sonic.net>
References: <446579.14674.qm@web113511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Wendell,
Actually, sidedraft Webers are back in production, however they are made 
in Spain, and not to the high level of finish and care when made in 
Italy, though they have features that make them easier to tune properly. 
The only other good thing about the Spanish carbs is the price went down 
a little. If one wants Italian-made sidedraft carbs, they will have to 
buy NOS or used carbs. I've got old 40 DCOEs, and a couple of newer 
Italian-made sets ready for future Triumph and Lotus applications.
Wanna slip a set onto the Mogggie?
Cheers,
Greg



On 2/24/2010 2:53 PM, wendell bain wrote:
> Glad to hear your experience with Webers turned out well. I spent a 
> weekend
> at the Monterey Pre-Historics helping a friend tune a pair of 45 DCOE 
> side
> draft carbs. We got it to run, but they were not is good shape and he 
> ended
> up replacing them with new units. I understand that is quite difficult 
> now.
>
> Wendell