From desmo93 at att.net Mon Mar 2 00:11:24 2009 From: desmo93 at att.net (marcus) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:11:24 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Upholstery Shop Message-ID: Can anyone recommend a upholstery shop that they have had experience with? I have the covers and foam for my TR6; just not sure I want to undertake the task. Thanks. Marcus 1976 TR6 From don at napanet.net Mon Mar 2 00:32:54 2009 From: don at napanet.net (don) Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:32:54 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Upholstery Shop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.1.20090301232440.03441bf0@pop.napanet.net> I have had work done by M&G Upholstery in Santa Rosa. I was pleased with the result. They are in Santa Rosa. I had the seats on my MGB GT redone by Napa Valley Auto Restorations who do concours quality work, but that company is not in business now. Martin Vreem, one of the two owners, now has a shop up in Redding. He is still doing British car work, but it's a long ways from here! Don Scott Calistoga 1962 MGA Mk II 1973 MGB GT 1991 Miata BRG 1962 TR4 (seeking) At 11:11 PM 03/01/2009, you wrote: >Can anyone recommend a upholstery shop that they have had experience with? I >have the covers and foam for my TR6; just not sure I want to undertake the >task. > >Thanks. >Marcus > >1976 TR6 >_______________________________________________ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.5/1978 - Release Date: 03/01/2009 7:04 AM From ppanther at ix.netcom.com Mon Mar 2 07:07:37 2009 From: ppanther at ix.netcom.com (ppanther) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 06:07:37 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Upholstery Shop In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Don Clancy in Cotati 793-9440 Larry Gardini -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of marcus Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:11 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Upholstery Shop Can anyone recommend a upholstery shop that they have had experience with? I have the covers and foam for my TR6; just not sure I want to undertake the task. Thanks. Marcus 1976 TR6 _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From DPaige at srcity.org Mon Mar 2 09:43:10 2009 From: DPaige at srcity.org (Paige, Dean) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:43:10 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Upholstery Shop In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Try MGB upholstery on Mountain View Road, Santa Rosa. Well equipped home shop. Did a great job on putting new leather on the front seats of my 98 Jag VDP. Deano -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of marcus Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:11 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Upholstery Shop Can anyone recommend a upholstery shop that they have had experience with? I have the covers and foam for my TR6; just not sure I want to undertake the task. Thanks. Marcus 1976 TR6 _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From tonykorman at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 2 11:40:51 2009 From: tonykorman at sbcglobal.net (tony korman) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:40:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] Upholstery Shop References: Message-ID: <117856.65334.qm@web81502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jack's Upholstery in Healdsburg. He redid my seats, and tonneau cover, also made a windscreen for the roll bar. Good guy and great work. He is in the buildings behind City Hall. 433 5624 Tony Korman 76 TR6 ________________________________ From: marcus To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2009 11:11:24 PM Subject: [Nobbc] Upholstery Shop Can anyone recommend a upholstery shop that they have had experience with? I have the covers and foam for my TR6; just not sure I want to undertake the task. Thanks. Marcus 1976 TR6 _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From andypreston at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 2 19:06:03 2009 From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:06:03 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Upholstery Shop In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090303020627.4D911187669@autox.team.net> Marcus, Don Clancey in Cotati just installed the headliner in my MGA Coupe which is one of the most difficult jobs to do on the car. It's the best I've ever seen, perfect. He also installed the front and back windows and chrome trim, another difficult job. He's been in business for over 20 years and operates a low key operation out of his garage in Cotati. Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of marcus Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:11 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Upholstery Shop Can anyone recommend a upholstery shop that they have had experience with? I have the covers and foam for my TR6; just not sure I want to undertake the task. Thanks. Marcus 1976 TR6 _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sarto477 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 2 22:39:10 2009 From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:39:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] Upholstery Shop In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <756950.40617.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MGB repadded lotus Elan seats and headliner and did a great job. Sarto --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Paige, Dean wrote: > From: Paige, Dean > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Upholstery Shop > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 8:43 AM > Try MGB upholstery on Mountain View Road, Santa Rosa. Well > equipped home > shop. Did a great job on putting new leather on the front > seats of my 98 > Jag VDP. > > Deano > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of marcus > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:11 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: [Nobbc] Upholstery Shop > > Can anyone recommend a upholstery shop that they have had > experience > with? I have the covers and foam for my TR6; just not sure > I want to > undertake the task. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Marcus > > 1976 TR6 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From DPaige at srcity.org Tue Mar 3 10:14:42 2009 From: DPaige at srcity.org (Paige, Dean) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:14:42 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Upholstery Shop In-Reply-To: <756950.40617.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Forgot to add that MGB also did a perfect job on a new headliner for the 98 VDP also. Deano -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Sarto Rocheleau Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 9:39 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Upholstery Shop MGB repadded lotus Elan seats and headliner and did a great job. Sarto --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Paige, Dean wrote: > From: Paige, Dean > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Upholstery Shop > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 8:43 AM > Try MGB upholstery on Mountain View Road, Santa Rosa. Well equipped > home shop. Did a great job on putting new leather on the front seats > of my 98 Jag VDP. > > Deano > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of marcus > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:11 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: [Nobbc] Upholstery Shop > > Can anyone recommend a upholstery shop that they have had experience > with? I have the covers and foam for my TR6; just not sure I want to > undertake the task. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Marcus > > 1976 TR6 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From don at napanet.net Tue Mar 3 11:57:28 2009 From: don at napanet.net (don at napanet.net) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:57:28 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Upholstery Shop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1236106648.49ad7d98cacac@webmail.napanet.net> Just for clarification, it's MG Upholstery. And in spite of the name, they will work on Triumphs. Quoting "Paige, Dean" : > Forgot to add that MGB also did a perfect job on a new headliner for the > 98 VDP also. > > Deano > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Sarto Rocheleau > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 9:39 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Upholstery Shop > > MGB repadded lotus Elan seats and headliner and did a great job. > Sarto > > --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Paige, Dean wrote: > > > From: Paige, Dean > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Upholstery Shop > > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > > Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 8:43 AM > > Try MGB upholstery on Mountain View Road, Santa Rosa. Well equipped > > home shop. Did a great job on putting new leather on the front seats > > of my 98 Jag VDP. > > > > Deano > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > On Behalf Of marcus > > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:11 PM > > To: North Bay British Car Club > > Subject: [Nobbc] Upholstery Shop > > > > Can anyone recommend a upholstery shop that they have had experience > > with? I have the covers and foam for my TR6; just not sure I want to > > undertake the task. > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > Marcus > > > > 1976 TR6 > > _______________________________________________ From sirplb at aol.com Thu Mar 5 11:23:36 2009 From: sirplb at aol.com (sirplb at aol.com) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:23:36 -0500 Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE / EVENT In-Reply-To: <002701c99870$bf9ff4a0$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21> References: <008701c9915f$52397e30$f6ac7a90$@com> <002701c99870$bf9ff4a0$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21> Message-ID: <8CB6BD6A1FD49BD-9A8-1194@WEBMAIL-MZ36.sysops.aol.com> Hi R, The JH is finally operational! ! !? Weather permitting, I'm in for Ron's place. Cheers, Pat 74 JH From nobbc at sonic.net Thu Mar 5 11:55:24 2009 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:55:24 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE / EVENT In-Reply-To: <8CB6BD6A1FD49BD-9A8-1194@WEBMAIL-MZ36.sysops.aol.com> References: <008701c9915f$52397e30$f6ac7a90$@com> <002701c99870$bf9ff4a0$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21> <8CB6BD6A1FD49BD-9A8-1194@WEBMAIL-MZ36.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <49B0201C.4020004@sonic.net> John is planning that one (hopefully now since the ride is coming up soon!). Glad to hear that the car is running and I'll see you there, should be interesting. He did a great job fixing my car after an SUV tried to run over it. Ron 58 MGA sirplb at aol.com wrote: > Hi R, > > The JH is finally operational! ! !? Weather permitting, I'm in for Ron's place. > > Cheers, > > Pat > > 74 JH > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jkenner at tamcab.com Thu Mar 5 15:30:20 2009 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:30:20 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT Message-ID: <000f01c99de1$f9c835e0$ed58a1a0$@com> HELLO ALL, HERE IS WHAT I HAVE PLANNED: ON SUNDAY THE 15TH WE MEET AT THE USUAL PLACE ON RIVER ROAD AT 10:30 AM. AFTER WE STAND AROUND AND TALK FOR A WHILE WE WILL DEPART AROUND 11 AND GO FOR A SHORT DRIVE, ABOUT = HOUR, OUT GREEN VALLEY ROAD AND MARTINELLI ROAD AND END UP AT RON WHEELERS PLACE. RON WILL ENTERTAIN US FOR A WHILE, THEN WE WILL HAVE A BBQ AT HIS LOVELY LITTLE PARK. I WILL PROVIDE 5 MARINATED CHICKENS FOR US TO BBQ. THE SIDE DISHES WILL BE POT LUCK. HOPEFULLY IT WILL NOT BE RAINING THAT DAY BUT IF IT DOES WE WILL MOVE THE BBQ TO MY PLACE, WHICH IS 5 MINUTES FROM RONS, WHERE I HAVE A COVERED OUTDOOR BBQ AREA. SO FAR 8 PEOPLE HAVE REPLIED TO ME THAT THEY ARE COMING. SOME OF THEM ARE COUPLES. IF MORE PEOPLE RESPOND I WILL GET MORE CHICKEN. SOUND GOOD? JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: 707 824 5640 tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] From gtwincams at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 16:21:37 2009 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:21:37 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT In-Reply-To: <000f01c99de1$f9c835e0$ed58a1a0$@com> References: <000f01c99de1$f9c835e0$ed58a1a0$@com> Message-ID: <49B05E81.4040701@gmail.com> Sounds great, John. We'll bring a side dish. Cheers, Greg Tatarian John Kenner wrote: > HELLO ALL, > > > > HERE IS WHAT I HAVE PLANNED: > > > > ON SUNDAY THE 15TH WE MEET AT THE USUAL PLACE > > ON RIVER ROAD AT 10:30 AM. AFTER WE STAND AROUND > > AND TALK FOR A WHILE WE WILL DEPART AROUND 11 AND > > GO FOR A SHORT DRIVE, ABOUT = HOUR, OUT GREEN VALLEY ROAD > > AND MARTINELLI ROAD AND END UP AT RON WHEELERS PLACE. > > > > RON WILL ENTERTAIN US FOR A WHILE, THEN WE WILL > > HAVE A BBQ AT HIS LOVELY LITTLE PARK. > > I WILL PROVIDE 5 MARINATED CHICKENS FOR US > > TO BBQ. THE SIDE DISHES WILL BE POT LUCK. > > > > HOPEFULLY IT WILL NOT BE RAINING THAT DAY > > BUT IF IT DOES WE WILL MOVE THE BBQ TO MY PLACE, > > WHICH IS 5 MINUTES FROM RONS, WHERE I HAVE > > A COVERED OUTDOOR BBQ AREA. > > > > SO FAR 8 PEOPLE HAVE REPLIED TO ME THAT THEY ARE COMING. > > SOME OF THEM ARE COUPLES. IF MORE PEOPLE RESPOND I > > WILL GET MORE CHICKEN. > > > > SOUND GOOD? > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: > > 707 824 5640 > > > > tamalpais_s > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From liamof at earthlink.net Fri Mar 6 11:21:15 2009 From: liamof at earthlink.net (liam oflaherty) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:21:15 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT References: <000f01c99de1$f9c835e0$ed58a1a0$@com> Message-ID: <001701c99e88$56b03860$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21> Hi John, Since this is the first time I can finally make one of the drives can you elaborate on the meeting place on river road? I will be driving from marin and would love to know what exit from 101, etc. Looking forward to talking about our little cars. Thanks, Liam 57 mga roadster ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kenner" To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT > HELLO ALL, > > > > HERE IS WHAT I HAVE PLANNED: > > > > ON SUNDAY THE 15TH WE MEET AT THE USUAL PLACE > > ON RIVER ROAD AT 10:30 AM. AFTER WE STAND AROUND > > AND TALK FOR A WHILE WE WILL DEPART AROUND 11 AND > > GO FOR A SHORT DRIVE, ABOUT = HOUR, OUT GREEN VALLEY ROAD > > AND MARTINELLI ROAD AND END UP AT RON WHEELERS PLACE. > > > > RON WILL ENTERTAIN US FOR A WHILE, THEN WE WILL > > HAVE A BBQ AT HIS LOVELY LITTLE PARK. > > I WILL PROVIDE 5 MARINATED CHICKENS FOR US > > TO BBQ. THE SIDE DISHES WILL BE POT LUCK. > > > > HOPEFULLY IT WILL NOT BE RAINING THAT DAY > > BUT IF IT DOES WE WILL MOVE THE BBQ TO MY PLACE, > > WHICH IS 5 MINUTES FROM RONS, WHERE I HAVE > > A COVERED OUTDOOR BBQ AREA. > > > > SO FAR 8 PEOPLE HAVE REPLIED TO ME THAT THEY ARE COMING. > > SOME OF THEM ARE COUPLES. IF MORE PEOPLE RESPOND I > > WILL GET MORE CHICKEN. > > > > SOUND GOOD? > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: > > 707 824 5640 > > > > tamalpais_s > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From fawn220 at comcast.net Fri Mar 6 11:28:12 2009 From: fawn220 at comcast.net (John Kenner) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:28:12 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT In-Reply-To: <001701c99e88$56b03860$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21> References: <000f01c99de1$f9c835e0$ed58a1a0$@com> <001701c99e88$56b03860$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21> Message-ID: <002b01c99e89$52956380$f7c02a80$@net> LIAM, IT'S THE COMMUTER PARKING LOT NEAR THE PG&E STATION ON THE WEST SIDE OF 101 ON RIVER ROAD. I BELIEVE IT IS CALLED THE MARK WEST SPRINGS ROAD EXIT AND THEN YOU GO WEST AND YOU ARE ON RIVER ROAD. IT'S ABOUT A 1/4 MILE FROM THE EXIT. SEE YOU THERE, JOHN -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of liam oflaherty Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 10:21 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT Hi John, Since this is the first time I can finally make one of the drives can you elaborate on the meeting place on river road? I will be driving from marin and would love to know what exit from 101, etc. Looking forward to talking about our little cars. Thanks, Liam 57 mga roadster ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kenner" To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT > HELLO ALL, > > > > HERE IS WHAT I HAVE PLANNED: > > > > ON SUNDAY THE 15TH WE MEET AT THE USUAL PLACE > > ON RIVER ROAD AT 10:30 AM. AFTER WE STAND AROUND > > AND TALK FOR A WHILE WE WILL DEPART AROUND 11 AND > > GO FOR A SHORT DRIVE, ABOUT = HOUR, OUT GREEN VALLEY ROAD > > AND MARTINELLI ROAD AND END UP AT RON WHEELERS PLACE. > > > > RON WILL ENTERTAIN US FOR A WHILE, THEN WE WILL > > HAVE A BBQ AT HIS LOVELY LITTLE PARK. > > I WILL PROVIDE 5 MARINATED CHICKENS FOR US > > TO BBQ. THE SIDE DISHES WILL BE POT LUCK. > > > > HOPEFULLY IT WILL NOT BE RAINING THAT DAY > > BUT IF IT DOES WE WILL MOVE THE BBQ TO MY PLACE, > > WHICH IS 5 MINUTES FROM RONS, WHERE I HAVE > > A COVERED OUTDOOR BBQ AREA. > > > > SO FAR 8 PEOPLE HAVE REPLIED TO ME THAT THEY ARE COMING. > > SOME OF THEM ARE COUPLES. IF MORE PEOPLE RESPOND I > > WILL GET MORE CHICKEN. > > > > SOUND GOOD? > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: > > 707 824 5640 > > > > tamalpais_s > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From liamof at earthlink.net Fri Mar 6 13:55:48 2009 From: liamof at earthlink.net (liam oflaherty) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:55:48 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT References: <000f01c99de1$f9c835e0$ed58a1a0$@com><001701c99e88$56b03860$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21> <002b01c99e89$52956380$f7c02a80$@net> Message-ID: <002a01c99e9d$edca4500$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21> Thanks John, See you there. Liam ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kenner" To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT > LIAM, > > IT'S THE COMMUTER PARKING LOT NEAR THE PG&E STATION ON THE WEST SIDE OF > 101 > ON RIVER ROAD. I BELIEVE IT IS CALLED THE MARK WEST SPRINGS ROAD EXIT AND > THEN YOU GO WEST AND YOU ARE ON RIVER ROAD. > IT'S ABOUT A 1/4 MILE FROM THE EXIT. > > SEE YOU THERE, > > JOHN > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of liam oflaherty > Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 10:21 AM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT > > Hi John, > Since this is the first time I can finally make one of the drives can you > elaborate on the meeting place on river road? I will be driving from > marin > and would love to know what exit from 101, etc. > Looking forward to talking about our little cars. > Thanks, > Liam > 57 mga roadster > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Kenner" > To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:30 PM > Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT > > >> HELLO ALL, >> >> >> >> HERE IS WHAT I HAVE PLANNED: >> >> >> >> ON SUNDAY THE 15TH WE MEET AT THE USUAL PLACE >> >> ON RIVER ROAD AT 10:30 AM. AFTER WE STAND AROUND >> >> AND TALK FOR A WHILE WE WILL DEPART AROUND 11 AND >> >> GO FOR A SHORT DRIVE, ABOUT = HOUR, OUT GREEN VALLEY ROAD >> >> AND MARTINELLI ROAD AND END UP AT RON WHEELERS PLACE. >> >> >> >> RON WILL ENTERTAIN US FOR A WHILE, THEN WE WILL >> >> HAVE A BBQ AT HIS LOVELY LITTLE PARK. >> >> I WILL PROVIDE 5 MARINATED CHICKENS FOR US >> >> TO BBQ. THE SIDE DISHES WILL BE POT LUCK. >> >> >> >> HOPEFULLY IT WILL NOT BE RAINING THAT DAY >> >> BUT IF IT DOES WE WILL MOVE THE BBQ TO MY PLACE, >> >> WHICH IS 5 MINUTES FROM RONS, WHERE I HAVE >> >> A COVERED OUTDOOR BBQ AREA. >> >> >> >> SO FAR 8 PEOPLE HAVE REPLIED TO ME THAT THEY ARE COMING. >> >> SOME OF THEM ARE COUPLES. IF MORE PEOPLE RESPOND I >> >> WILL GET MORE CHICKEN. >> >> >> >> SOUND GOOD? >> >> >> >> JOHN KENNER >> >> >> >> 510 231 6803 P >> >> 415 806 2457 C >> >> 510 231 6805 F >> >> SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: >> >> 707 824 5640 >> >> >> >> tamalpais_s >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of >> image001.gif] >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From wkilch at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 6 19:27:13 2009 From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (Gwen Kilchherr) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 18:27:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE / EVENT In-Reply-To: <008701c9915f$52397e30$f6ac7a90$@com> Message-ID: <894341.58492.qm@web81707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi John, My wife and I would love to come play. Weather permitting. No functioning tops. Walter _________________________ 62 Sprite restoration in progress 67 AH 3000 preservation in progress --- On Tue, 2/17/09, John Kenner wrote: > From: John Kenner > Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE / EVENT > To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:24 PM > HI ALL, > > > > RON WHEELER HAS AGREED TO LET US COME OVER TO SEE HIS > OPERATION IN > FORESTVILLE. > > > > RON DOES BODY RESTORATION ON MOSTLY BRITISH CARS AND MUSCLE > ERA AMERICAN > CARS. > > HIS OPERATION IS NOT FANCY AND OR HIGH TECH. IT IS DOWN > HOME. AND HE'S BEEN > DOING IT FOR OVER 30 YEARS. > > HE HAS LOTS OF STORIES. > > > > HE HAS MANY PROJECTS AND LOTS OF CARS IN VARIOUS STATES OF > DISREPAIR. > > HE IS A CHARMING HOST AND INTERESTING GUY. > > > > HE ALSO HAS A PARK ON HIS PROPERTY AT THE END OF TEMPLEMAN > ROAD IN > FORESTVILLE > > WITH A BARBEQUE. SO WE WILL BE HAVING A BRING YOUR OWN FOOD > TO BBQ LUNCH > PARTY AS WELL AS MEETING RON. > > > > THE DATE WILL BE SUNDAY MARCH 15TH. > > > > WE WILL MEET AS USUAL ON RIVER ROAD AT 10:30 AND GO FOR AN > HOUR RIDE ENDING > UP AT RON'S PLACE. > > > > A GOOD TIME WILL BE HAD BY ALL. > > > > IT WOULD BE GREAT IF I COULD TELL RON HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL > BE COMING > > SO PLEASE CHIME IN SOON. > > > > P.S. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW ME, I'M NOT > SHOUTING, I'M TYPING > CHALLENGED > > > > SEE YOU SOON. > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > 2 MANY LOTUS & 2 MANY TRIUMPHS > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: > > 707 824 5640 > > > > tamalpais_s > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which > had a name of image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sarto477 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 7 23:14:29 2009 From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 22:14:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT In-Reply-To: <001701c99e88$56b03860$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21> Message-ID: <308402.88718.qm@web50804.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Sunday the 15Th is now clear for another drive, so count me in. I am trying to get Bob Groat to drive his Elan if he can break away. Sarto, with my 66 Lotus Elan. --- On Fri, 3/6/09, liam oflaherty wrote: > From: liam oflaherty > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 10:21 AM > Hi John, > Since this is the first time I can finally make one of the > drives can you > elaborate on the meeting place on river road? I will be > driving from marin > and would love to know what exit from 101, etc. > Looking forward to talking about our little cars. > Thanks, > Liam > 57 mga roadster > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Kenner" > To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" > > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:30 PM > Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT > > > > HELLO ALL, > > > > > > > > HERE IS WHAT I HAVE PLANNED: > > > > > > > > ON SUNDAY THE 15TH WE MEET AT THE USUAL PLACE > > > > ON RIVER ROAD AT 10:30 AM. AFTER WE STAND AROUND > > > > AND TALK FOR A WHILE WE WILL DEPART AROUND 11 AND > > > > GO FOR A SHORT DRIVE, ABOUT = HOUR, OUT GREEN VALLEY > ROAD > > > > AND MARTINELLI ROAD AND END UP AT RON WHEELERS PLACE. > > > > > > > > RON WILL ENTERTAIN US FOR A WHILE, THEN WE WILL > > > > HAVE A BBQ AT HIS LOVELY LITTLE PARK. > > > > I WILL PROVIDE 5 MARINATED CHICKENS FOR US > > > > TO BBQ. THE SIDE DISHES WILL BE POT LUCK. > > > > > > > > HOPEFULLY IT WILL NOT BE RAINING THAT DAY > > > > BUT IF IT DOES WE WILL MOVE THE BBQ TO MY PLACE, > > > > WHICH IS 5 MINUTES FROM RONS, WHERE I HAVE > > > > A COVERED OUTDOOR BBQ AREA. > > > > > > > > SO FAR 8 PEOPLE HAVE REPLIED TO ME THAT THEY ARE > COMING. > > > > SOME OF THEM ARE COUPLES. IF MORE PEOPLE RESPOND I > > > > WILL GET MORE CHICKEN. > > > > > > > > SOUND GOOD? > > > > > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > > > 415 806 2457 C > > > > 510 231 6805 F > > > > SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: > > > > 707 824 5640 > > > > > > > > tamalpais_s > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif > which had a name of > > image001.gif] > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From andypreston at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 8 18:55:53 2009 From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:55:53 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT In-Reply-To: <000f01c99de1$f9c835e0$ed58a1a0$@com> Message-ID: <20090309025446.1CF0F18764F@autox.team.net> John, this sounds very interesting. Please put Marla and myself down for joining you. We're going to need more MGBs or else the Lotus's (Loti?) will rule. Thanks Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Kenner Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:30 PM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT HELLO ALL, HERE IS WHAT I HAVE PLANNED: ON SUNDAY THE 15TH WE MEET AT THE USUAL PLACE ON RIVER ROAD AT 10:30 AM. AFTER WE STAND AROUND AND TALK FOR A WHILE WE WILL DEPART AROUND 11 AND GO FOR A SHORT DRIVE, ABOUT = HOUR, OUT GREEN VALLEY ROAD AND MARTINELLI ROAD AND END UP AT RON WHEELERS PLACE. RON WILL ENTERTAIN US FOR A WHILE, THEN WE WILL HAVE A BBQ AT HIS LOVELY LITTLE PARK. I WILL PROVIDE 5 MARINATED CHICKENS FOR US TO BBQ. THE SIDE DISHES WILL BE POT LUCK. HOPEFULLY IT WILL NOT BE RAINING THAT DAY BUT IF IT DOES WE WILL MOVE THE BBQ TO MY PLACE, WHICH IS 5 MINUTES FROM RONS, WHERE I HAVE A COVERED OUTDOOR BBQ AREA. SO FAR 8 PEOPLE HAVE REPLIED TO ME THAT THEY ARE COMING. SOME OF THEM ARE COUPLES. IF MORE PEOPLE RESPOND I WILL GET MORE CHICKEN. SOUND GOOD? JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: 707 824 5640 tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com Sun Mar 8 19:02:19 2009 From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 19:02:19 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT In-Reply-To: <20090309025446.1CF0F18764F@autox.team.net> References: <20090309025446.1CF0F18764F@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Beware swarms of Lotim... Sorry we won't be able to joint you all! Norm Weinfeld From: andy preston Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:55 PM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT John, this sounds very interesting. Please put Marla and myself down for joining you. We're going to need more MGBs or else the Lotus's (Loti?) will rule. Thanks Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Kenner Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:30 PM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT HELLO ALL, HERE IS WHAT I HAVE PLANNED: ON SUNDAY THE 15TH WE MEET AT THE USUAL PLACE ON RIVER ROAD AT 10:30 AM. AFTER WE STAND AROUND AND TALK FOR A WHILE WE WILL DEPART AROUND 11 AND GO FOR A SHORT DRIVE, ABOUT = HOUR, OUT GREEN VALLEY ROAD AND MARTINELLI ROAD AND END UP AT RON WHEELERS PLACE. RON WILL ENTERTAIN US FOR A WHILE, THEN WE WILL HAVE A BBQ AT HIS LOVELY LITTLE PARK. I WILL PROVIDE 5 MARINATED CHICKENS FOR US TO BBQ. THE SIDE DISHES WILL BE POT LUCK. HOPEFULLY IT WILL NOT BE RAINING THAT DAY BUT IF IT DOES WE WILL MOVE THE BBQ TO MY PLACE, WHICH IS 5 MINUTES FROM RONS, WHERE I HAVE A COVERED OUTDOOR BBQ AREA. SO FAR 8 PEOPLE HAVE REPLIED TO ME THAT THEY ARE COMING. SOME OF THEM ARE COUPLES. IF MORE PEOPLE RESPOND I WILL GET MORE CHICKEN. SOUND GOOD? JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: 707 824 5640 tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com Sun Mar 8 19:10:47 2009 From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 19:10:47 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT In-Reply-To: <20090309025446.1CF0F18764F@autox.team.net> References: <20090309025446.1CF0F18764F@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Er, make that JOIN you, not JOINT you, children of the '60's though we be... Norm W. From: Norman Weinfeld Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 7:02 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT Beware swarms of Lotim... Sorry we won't be able to joint you all! Norm Weinfeld From: andy preston Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:55 PM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: Re: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT John, this sounds very interesting. Please put Marla and myself down for joining you. We're going to need more MGBs or else the Lotus's (Loti?) will rule. Thanks Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Kenner Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:30 PM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT HELLO ALL, HERE IS WHAT I HAVE PLANNED: ON SUNDAY THE 15TH WE MEET AT THE USUAL PLACE ON RIVER ROAD AT 10:30 AM. AFTER WE STAND AROUND AND TALK FOR A WHILE WE WILL DEPART AROUND 11 AND GO FOR A SHORT DRIVE, ABOUT = HOUR, OUT GREEN VALLEY ROAD AND MARTINELLI ROAD AND END UP AT RON WHEELERS PLACE. RON WILL ENTERTAIN US FOR A WHILE, THEN WE WILL HAVE A BBQ AT HIS LOVELY LITTLE PARK. I WILL PROVIDE 5 MARINATED CHICKENS FOR US TO BBQ. THE SIDE DISHES WILL BE POT LUCK. HOPEFULLY IT WILL NOT BE RAINING THAT DAY BUT IF IT DOES WE WILL MOVE THE BBQ TO MY PLACE, WHICH IS 5 MINUTES FROM RONS, WHERE I HAVE A COVERED OUTDOOR BBQ AREA. SO FAR 8 PEOPLE HAVE REPLIED TO ME THAT THEY ARE COMING. SOME OF THEM ARE COUPLES. IF MORE PEOPLE RESPOND I WILL GET MORE CHICKEN. SOUND GOOD? JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: 707 824 5640 tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From haiku99 at gmail.com Sun Mar 8 19:36:40 2009 From: haiku99 at gmail.com (Bill Crowe) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 19:36:40 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE / EVENT In-Reply-To: <008701c9915f$52397e30$f6ac7a90$@com> References: <008701c9915f$52397e30$f6ac7a90$@com> Message-ID: <188b620b0903081936r2ca470aey44be04bcbd477a35@mail.gmail.com> I'll be there as long as it doesn't rain hard (have weather gear for my car but can't get in when it is installed)...looking forward to it and FWIW will make some Orzo salad as a side dish Bill On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:24 PM, John Kenner wrote: > HI ALL, > > > > RON WHEELER HAS AGREED TO LET US COME OVER TO SEE HIS OPERATION IN > FORESTVILLE. > > > > RON DOES BODY RESTORATION ON MOSTLY BRITISH CARS AND MUSCLE ERA AMERICAN > CARS. > > HIS OPERATION IS NOT FANCY AND OR HIGH TECH. IT IS DOWN HOME. AND HE'S BEEN > DOING IT FOR OVER 30 YEARS. > > HE HAS LOTS OF STORIES. > > > > HE HAS MANY PROJECTS AND LOTS OF CARS IN VARIOUS STATES OF DISREPAIR. > > HE IS A CHARMING HOST AND INTERESTING GUY. > > > > HE ALSO HAS A PARK ON HIS PROPERTY AT THE END OF TEMPLEMAN ROAD IN > FORESTVILLE > > WITH A BARBEQUE. SO WE WILL BE HAVING A BRING YOUR OWN FOOD TO BBQ LUNCH > PARTY AS WELL AS MEETING RON. > > > > THE DATE WILL BE SUNDAY MARCH 15TH. > > > > WE WILL MEET AS USUAL ON RIVER ROAD AT 10:30 AND GO FOR AN HOUR RIDE ENDING > UP AT RON'S PLACE. > > > > A GOOD TIME WILL BE HAD BY ALL. > > > > IT WOULD BE GREAT IF I COULD TELL RON HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL BE COMING > > SO PLEASE CHIME IN SOON. > > > > P.S. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW ME, I'M NOT SHOUTING, I'M TYPING > CHALLENGED > > > > SEE YOU SOON. > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > 2 MANY LOTUS & 2 MANY TRIUMPHS > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: > > 707 824 5640 > > > > tamalpais_s > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > From spydrgraf at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 8 23:27:00 2009 From: spydrgraf at sbcglobal.net (Linda or Brad Cott) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 23:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE / EVENT In-Reply-To: <008701c9915f$52397e30$f6ac7a90$@com> Message-ID: <682253.43600.qm@web82908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello to all, Brad Cott here... haven't been on a run in a while, but Ron Wheeler is a old acquaintance and I would love to run with the British Pack. Looking forward to the BBQ. Will be by myself as my wife, Linda will be working at Rodney Strong on Sunday. Hopefully it won't be raining, cuz tops down in my 67 Healey 3000 (the baby) is the only way to go! Special hello to Robin from Apex Motors days. Would love to see you at Ron's. (?!?) Take care. Warm cheers. Run strong. Brad 1967 AH 3000 BJ8 (faithful owner since 1971) --- On Tue, 2/17/09, John Kenner wrote: > From: John Kenner > Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE / EVENT > To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:24 PM > HI ALL, > > > > RON WHEELER HAS AGREED TO LET US COME OVER TO SEE HIS > OPERATION IN > FORESTVILLE. > > > > RON DOES BODY RESTORATION ON MOSTLY BRITISH CARS AND MUSCLE > ERA AMERICAN > CARS. > > HIS OPERATION IS NOT FANCY AND OR HIGH TECH. IT IS DOWN > HOME. AND HE'S BEEN > DOING IT FOR OVER 30 YEARS. > > HE HAS LOTS OF STORIES. > > > > HE HAS MANY PROJECTS AND LOTS OF CARS IN VARIOUS STATES OF > DISREPAIR. > > HE IS A CHARMING HOST AND INTERESTING GUY. > > > > HE ALSO HAS A PARK ON HIS PROPERTY AT THE END OF TEMPLEMAN > ROAD IN > FORESTVILLE > > WITH A BARBEQUE. SO WE WILL BE HAVING A BRING YOUR OWN FOOD > TO BBQ LUNCH > PARTY AS WELL AS MEETING RON. > > > > THE DATE WILL BE SUNDAY MARCH 15TH. > > > > WE WILL MEET AS USUAL ON RIVER ROAD AT 10:30 AND GO FOR AN > HOUR RIDE ENDING > UP AT RON'S PLACE. > > > > A GOOD TIME WILL BE HAD BY ALL. > > > > IT WOULD BE GREAT IF I COULD TELL RON HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL > BE COMING > > SO PLEASE CHIME IN SOON. > > > > P.S. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW ME, I'M NOT > SHOUTING, I'M TYPING > CHALLENGED > > > > SEE YOU SOON. > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > 2 MANY LOTUS & 2 MANY TRIUMPHS > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: > > 707 824 5640 > > > > tamalpais_s > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which > had a name of image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 11:03:45 2009 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:03:45 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE / EVENT In-Reply-To: <682253.43600.qm@web82908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <008701c9915f$52397e30$f6ac7a90$@com> <682253.43600.qm@web82908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <95a735e60903091103o278a3448g218dbbdbb5d2b6e1@mail.gmail.com> Great hearing from you Brad. I thought of you and your beautiful Healey when I heard the group was visiting Ron. Ron bailed me (Apex British Motors) out when we had the terrible accident that punched a hole cleanly through the bonnet. Ron made it like new and saved my arse! I may make it over to Ron's but my Mark 2 Jag is still under repair. You may remember the one that was abandoned under redwoods in Cazadero for a few years. Best to Linda. By the way, I still have a wire wheel of yours! Cheers, Robin On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Linda or Brad Cott wrote: > > Hello to all, > > Brad Cott here... haven't been on a run in a while, but Ron Wheeler is a > old acquaintance and I would love to run with the British Pack. Looking > forward to the BBQ. Will be by myself as my wife, Linda will be working at > Rodney Strong on Sunday. > > Hopefully it won't be raining, cuz tops down in my 67 Healey 3000 (the > baby) is the only way to go! > > Special hello to Robin from Apex Motors days. Would love to see you at > Ron's. (?!?) > > Take care. Warm cheers. Run strong. > > Brad > 1967 AH 3000 BJ8 > (faithful owner since 1971) > > > --- On Tue, 2/17/09, John Kenner wrote: > > > From: John Kenner > > Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE / EVENT > > To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" > > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:24 PM > > HI ALL, > > > > > > > > RON WHEELER HAS AGREED TO LET US COME OVER TO SEE HIS > > OPERATION IN > > FORESTVILLE. > > > > > > > > RON DOES BODY RESTORATION ON MOSTLY BRITISH CARS AND MUSCLE > > ERA AMERICAN > > CARS. > > > > HIS OPERATION IS NOT FANCY AND OR HIGH TECH. IT IS DOWN > > HOME. AND HE'S BEEN > > DOING IT FOR OVER 30 YEARS. > > > > HE HAS LOTS OF STORIES. > > > > > > > > HE HAS MANY PROJECTS AND LOTS OF CARS IN VARIOUS STATES OF > > DISREPAIR. > > > > HE IS A CHARMING HOST AND INTERESTING GUY. > > > > > > > > HE ALSO HAS A PARK ON HIS PROPERTY AT THE END OF TEMPLEMAN > > ROAD IN > > FORESTVILLE > > > > WITH A BARBEQUE. SO WE WILL BE HAVING A BRING YOUR OWN FOOD > > TO BBQ LUNCH > > PARTY AS WELL AS MEETING RON. > > > > > > > > THE DATE WILL BE SUNDAY MARCH 15TH. > > > > > > > > WE WILL MEET AS USUAL ON RIVER ROAD AT 10:30 AND GO FOR AN > > HOUR RIDE ENDING > > UP AT RON'S PLACE. > > > > > > > > A GOOD TIME WILL BE HAD BY ALL. > > > > > > > > IT WOULD BE GREAT IF I COULD TELL RON HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL > > BE COMING > > > > SO PLEASE CHIME IN SOON. > > > > > > > > P.S. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW ME, I'M NOT > > SHOUTING, I'M TYPING > > CHALLENGED > > > > > > > > SEE YOU SOON. > > > > > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > > > > > 2 MANY LOTUS & 2 MANY TRIUMPHS > > > > > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > > > 415 806 2457 C > > > > 510 231 6805 F > > > > SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: > > > > 707 824 5640 > > > > > > > > tamalpais_s > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which > > had a name of image001.gif] > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > From sirplb at aol.com Mon Mar 9 11:05:02 2009 From: sirplb at aol.com (sirplb at aol.com) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:05:02 -0400 Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT In-Reply-To: <000f01c99de1$f9c835e0$ed58a1a0$@com> References: <000f01c99de1$f9c835e0$ed58a1a0$@com> Message-ID: <8CB6EF8B3BB6564-F40-36E@WEBMAIL-MY26.sysops.aol.com> Hi J, I hope to be there for the drive, (weather permitting) but will have to pass on the meeting at Ron's as there is a?meeting I can't miss. Cheers, Pat 74 JH -----Original Message----- From: John Kenner To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 2:30 pm Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT HELLO ALL, HERE IS WHAT I HAVE PLANNED: ON SUNDAY THE 15TH WE MEET AT THE USUAL PLACE ON RIVER ROAD AT 10:30 AM. AFTER WE STAND AROUND AND TALK FOR A WHILE WE WILL DEPART AROUND 11 AND GO FOR A SHORT DRIVE, ABOUT = HOUR, OUT GREEN VALLEY ROAD AND MARTINELLI ROAD AND END UP AT RON WHEELERS PLACE. RON WILL ENTERTAIN US FOR A WHILE, THEN WE WILL HAVE A BBQ AT HIS LOVELY LITTLE PARK. I WILL PROVIDE 5 MARINATED CHICKENS FOR US TO BBQ. THE SIDE DISHES WILL BE POT LUCK. HOPEFULLY IT WILL NOT BE RAINING THAT DAY BUT IF IT DOES WE WILL MOVE THE BBQ TO MY PLACE, WHICH IS 5 MINUTES FROM RONS, WHERE I HAVE A COVERED OUTDOOR BBQ AREA. SO FAR 8 PEOPLE HAVE REPLIED TO ME THAT THEY ARE COMING. SOME OF THEM ARE COUPLES. IF MORE PEOPLE RESPOND I WILL GET MORE CHICKEN. SOUND GOOD? JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: 707 824 5640 tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jamesechristian at yahoo.com Wed Mar 11 20:41:27 2009 From: jamesechristian at yahoo.com (Jim Christian) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] Barrel-Tasting and Backroads - March 14, 2009 Message-ID: <560011.31470.qm@web58903.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Gang, I just got this email link from Gil LeSage (and just joined your group).? I've organized a small ride for this Saturday, starting in Windsor... combining great driving with the barrel-tasting fest that the Russian River area wineries are participating in. ? Sorry for the short notice.? We'd love to have you join us.? Everything you need is in text below. ? Pre-registration is for the barrel tasting is closed but I know you can simply?register at the first stop, which is Chalk Hill Winery.? No problem. ? Spies tell me some british cars were out that way last weekend (you guys?)?and I know you've got an event on Sunday..... the weather seems to be cooperating, so please join us! ? We aren't a group of any real sort, just a few members of the Jag club who'd rather drive than go to a dining event, and a couple of others including a split-window Corvette (not coming this time), a pagoda-roof MBZ280 SL (a few knocking cylinders, car is doubtful but owner is coming in something), and two Harleys and a two Ducatis. ? Enjoy!! ? Jim Christian? ? Meeting Point ? Saturday March 14, at 10:30 a.m. - Central Windsor.? Heading north on US101, go past the Santa Rosa exits and past the Shiloh Road exit to the ?Central Windsor? exit.? There is a stoplight at the off ramp.? Go straight through the intersection.? Immediately on your right just past the Exchange Bank is a driveway.? Turn right, and park in front of the SoCo Caf?.? There is a Starbucks right there, too.? We?ll shove off at 11:00 a.m..? ? Route -? I will have handouts at the Meeting Point: 1. Exit the meeting point.? Set trip odometer.? Go left (east) on Old Redwood Highway (mile 0.0) 2. Turn left on Pleasant Avenue (mile 0.9) 3. Turn left on Chalk Hill Road (mile 2.0) 4. Stop at Chalk Hill Estate Winery ? 10300 Chalk Hill Road (mile 4.2)? CHECK-IN.???? 5. East on Chalk Hill, left on 128 (north) past Jimtown, stay north on 128 thru Geyserville 6. Left on Canyon Road (west) (mile 21.4) 7. Right on Dry Creek Road (north) (mile 23.6) 8. Stop at Ferrari-Carano Winery ? arrangements with the winemaker (mile 25.4) 9. Reverse on Dry Creek Road (south) 1.6 mi. to Yoakim Bridge 0.6 mi., north on W.Dry Creek 1.2 mi.? to Bella Winery and Caves (mile 28.8) 10. Reverse, head south on W. Dry Creek Road, re-cross Yoakim Br., right (south) on Dry Creek. 11. Left turn into Dry Creek General Store (at Lambert Bridge) Buy food if you wish ? (mile 36.2.0) 12. West on Lambert Bridge Road, short hop to Dry Creek Vineyards on left (mile 36.4) If we decide to stop for lunch, we?ll picnic at Dry Creek Vineyards; otherwise it?s nosh-n-go 13. Exit west on Lambert Bridge, 14. Left on West Dry Creek Road (heading south) (mile 37) 15. Right on Westside Road (heading west) (mile 42) 16. Stop at Hop Kiln Winery ? 6050 Westside Road (mile 47.1) 17. Continue on Westside Road, to Porter Creek Vineyards (mile 49.3) 18. Continue on Westside Road, left on Wohler Bridge Road (mile 47.4) to River Road (mile 52.4) 19. Decision Time ? if the day is almost over, head back with choice (a) and if not, take (b) (a) to head to US101 ? Go left, head east on River Road (to US101 ? mile 59) Last stop for wine before US101 is Kendall-Jackson, off River Road, left on Fulton Road (north) (mile 59.4) (b) to head to Korbel ? Go right on River Road, stop at Korbel Champagne Cellars ? 13250 River Road (mile 57.7).? Back to US 101 (and Kendall-Jackson), reverse heading east on River Road, to US 101 (mile 69.7) ? From nobbc at sonic.net Wed Mar 11 23:18:32 2009 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:18:32 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Barrel-Tasting and Backroads - March 14, 2009 In-Reply-To: <560011.31470.qm@web58903.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <560011.31470.qm@web58903.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49B8A938.8090603@sonic.net> Welcome to the club list Jim. I did the barrel tasting last weekend and had a great time so won't be doing it again this weekend. I hope some of our members join you and your group on Saturday. You may want to join our ride on Sunday (if you aren't out tasting again). Ron 58 MGA Jim Christian wrote: > > Gang, > I just got this email link from Gil LeSage (and just joined your group). I've organized a small ride for this Saturday, starting in Windsor... combining great driving with the barrel-tasting fest that the Russian River area wineries are participating in. > > Sorry for the short notice. We'd love to have you join us. Everything you need is in text below. > > Pre-registration is for the barrel tasting is closed but I know you can simply register at the first stop, which is Chalk Hill Winery. No problem. > > Spies tell me some british cars were out that way last weekend (you guys?) and I know you've got an event on Sunday..... the weather seems to be cooperating, so please join us! > > We aren't a group of any real sort, just a few members of the Jag club who'd rather drive than go to a dining event, and a couple of others including a split-window Corvette (not coming this time), a pagoda-roof MBZ280 SL (a few knocking cylinders, car is doubtful but owner is coming in something), and two Harleys and a two Ducatis. > > Enjoy!! > > Jim Christian > > > Meeting Point ? Saturday March 14, at 10:30 a.m. - Central Windsor. Heading north on US101, go past the Santa Rosa exits and past the Shiloh Road exit to the ?Central Windsor? exit. There is a stoplight at the off ramp. Go straight through the intersection. Immediately on your right just past the Exchange Bank is a driveway. Turn right, and park in front of the SoCo Caf?. There is a Starbucks right there, too. We?ll shove off at 11:00 a.m.. > > Route - I will have handouts at the Meeting Point: > 1. Exit the meeting point. Set trip odometer. Go left (east) on Old Redwood Highway (mile 0.0) > 2. Turn left on Pleasant Avenue (mile 0.9) > 3. Turn left on Chalk Hill Road (mile 2.0) > 4. Stop at Chalk Hill Estate Winery ? 10300 Chalk Hill Road (mile 4.2) CHECK-IN. > 5. East on Chalk Hill, left on 128 (north) past Jimtown, stay north on 128 thru Geyserville > 6. Left on Canyon Road (west) (mile 21.4) > 7. Right on Dry Creek Road (north) (mile 23.6) > 8. Stop at Ferrari-Carano Winery ? arrangements with the winemaker (mile 25.4) > 9. Reverse on Dry Creek Road (south) 1.6 mi. to Yoakim Bridge 0.6 mi., north on W.Dry Creek 1.2 mi. to Bella Winery and Caves (mile 28.8) > 10. Reverse, head south on W. Dry Creek Road, re-cross Yoakim Br., right (south) on Dry Creek. > 11. Left turn into Dry Creek General Store (at Lambert Bridge) Buy food if you wish ? (mile 36.2.0) > 12. West on Lambert Bridge Road, short hop to Dry Creek Vineyards on left (mile 36.4) > If we decide to stop for lunch, we?ll picnic at Dry Creek Vineyards; otherwise it?s nosh-n-go > 13. Exit west on Lambert Bridge, > 14. Left on West Dry Creek Road (heading south) (mile 37) > 15. Right on Westside Road (heading west) (mile 42) > 16. Stop at Hop Kiln Winery ? 6050 Westside Road (mile 47.1) > 17. Continue on Westside Road, to Porter Creek Vineyards (mile 49.3) > 18. Continue on Westside Road, left on Wohler Bridge Road (mile 47.4) to River Road (mile 52.4) > 19. Decision Time ? if the day is almost over, head back with choice (a) and if not, take (b) > (a) to head to US101 ? Go left, head east on River Road (to US101 ? mile 59) Last stop for wine before US101 is Kendall-Jackson, off River Road, left on Fulton Road (north) (mile 59.4) > (b) to head to Korbel ? Go right on River Road, stop at Korbel Champagne Cellars ? 13250 River Road (mile 57.7). Back to US 101 (and Kendall-Jackson), reverse heading east on River Road, to US 101 (mile 69.7) > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com Thu Mar 12 07:39:57 2009 From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:39:57 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Barrel-Tasting and Backroads - March 14, 2009 In-Reply-To: <560011.31470.qm@web58903.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <49B8A938.8090603@sonic.net> References: <560011.31470.qm@web58903.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <49B8A938.8090603@sonic.net> Message-ID: Gill and I will be caravanning up from the Bay Area Saturday morning and staying at the Hampton Inn in Windsor that evening, or at least Mary and I will be staying there. I believe Gil is planning on further wine-tasting Sunday but we will probably head back home. Hope to see a NOBBC contingent along the way. It's been too long. Norm Weinfeld San Francisco XK140 DHC P.S. Owing to the aforementioned wife, we may be taking the land yacht (1956 Imperial coupe) rather than the XK, though this is TBD at this point. From: Ron Engelhardt Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:18 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Barrel-Tasting and Backroads - March 14, 2009 Welcome to the club list Jim. I did the barrel tasting last weekend and had a great time so won't be doing it again this weekend. I hope some of our members join you and your group on Saturday. You may want to join our ride on Sunday (if you aren't out tasting again). Ron 58 MGA Jim Christian wrote: > > Gang, > I just got this email link from Gil LeSage (and just joined your group). I've organized a small ride for this Saturday, starting in Windsor... combining great driving with the barrel-tasting fest that the Russian River area wineries are participating in. > > Sorry for the short notice. We'd love to have you join us. Everything you need is in text below. > > Pre-registration is for the barrel tasting is closed but I know you can simply register at the first stop, which is Chalk Hill Winery. No problem. > > Spies tell me some british cars were out that way last weekend (you guys?) and I know you've got an event on Sunday..... the weather seems to be cooperating, so please join us! > > We aren't a group of any real sort, just a few members of the Jag club who'd rather drive than go to a dining event, and a couple of others including a split-window Corvette (not coming this time), a pagoda-roof MBZ280 SL (a few knocking cylinders, car is doubtful but owner is coming in something), and two Harleys and a two Ducatis. > > Enjoy!! > > Jim Christian > > > Meeting Point ? Saturday March 14, at 10:30 a.m. - Central Windsor. Heading north on US101, go past the Santa Rosa exits and past the Shiloh Road exit to the ?Central Windsor? exit. There is a stoplight at the off ramp. Go straight through the intersection. Immediately on your right just past the Exchange Bank is a driveway. Turn right, and park in front of the SoCo Caf?. There is a Starbucks right there, too. We?ll shove off at 11:00 a.m.. > > Route - I will have handouts at the Meeting Point: > 1. Exit the meeting point. Set trip odometer. Go left (east) on Old Redwood Highway (mile 0.0) > 2. Turn left on Pleasant Avenue (mile 0.9) > 3. Turn left on Chalk Hill Road (mile 2.0) > 4. Stop at Chalk Hill Estate Winery ? 10300 Chalk Hill Road (mile 4.2) CHECK-IN. > 5. East on Chalk Hill, left on 128 (north) past Jimtown, stay north on 128 thru Geyserville > 6. Left on Canyon Road (west) (mile 21.4) > 7. Right on Dry Creek Road (north) (mile 23.6) > 8. Stop at Ferrari-Carano Winery ? arrangements with the winemaker (mile 25.4) > 9. Reverse on Dry Creek Road (south) 1.6 mi. to Yoakim Bridge 0.6 mi., north on W.Dry Creek 1.2 mi. to Bella Winery and Caves (mile 28.8) > 10. Reverse, head south on W. Dry Creek Road, re-cross Yoakim Br., right (south) on Dry Creek. > 11. Left turn into Dry Creek General Store (at Lambert Bridge) Buy food if you wish ? (mile 36.2.0) > 12. West on Lambert Bridge Road, short hop to Dry Creek Vineyards on left (mile 36.4) > If we decide to stop for lunch, we?ll picnic at Dry Creek Vineyards; otherwise it?s nosh-n-go > 13. Exit west on Lambert Bridge, > 14. Left on West Dry Creek Road (heading south) (mile 37) > 15. Right on Westside Road (heading west) (mile 42) > 16. Stop at Hop Kiln Winery ? 6050 Westside Road (mile 47.1) > 17. Continue on Westside Road, to Porter Creek Vineyards (mile 49.3) > 18. Continue on Westside Road, left on Wohler Bridge Road (mile 47.4) to River Road (mile 52.4) > 19. Decision Time ? if the day is almost over, head back with choice (a) and if not, take (b) > (a) to head to US101 ? Go left, head east on River Road (to US101 ? mile 59) Last stop for wine before US101 is Kendall-Jackson, off River Road, left on Fulton Road (north) (mile 59.4) > (b) to head to Korbel ? Go right on River Road, stop at Korbel Champagne Cellars ? 13250 River Road (mile 57.7). Back to US 101 (and Kendall-Jackson), reverse heading east on River Road, to US 101 (mile 69.7) > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jamesechristian at yahoo.com Thu Mar 12 10:58:51 2009 From: jamesechristian at yahoo.com (Jim Christian) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] Barrel-Tasting and Backroads - March 14, 2009 In-Reply-To: <49B8A938.8090603@sonic.net> Message-ID: <719801.98844.qm@web58907.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Have a conflict on Sunday, but will definitely come along soon. ? Jim '68 XKE roadster --- On Wed, 3/11/09, Ron Engelhardt wrote: From: Ron Engelhardt Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Barrel-Tasting and Backroads - March 14, 2009 To: "North Bay British Car Club" Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 11:18 PM Welcome to the club list Jim. I did the barrel tasting last weekend and had a great time so won't be doing it again this weekend. I hope some of our members join you and your group on Saturday. You may want to join our ride on Sunday (if you aren't out tasting again). Ron 58 MGA Jim Christian wrote: > > Gang, > I just got this email link from Gil LeSage (and just joined your group). I've organized a small ride for this Saturday, starting in Windsor... combining great driving with the barrel-tasting fest that the Russian River area wineries are participating in. > Sorry for the short notice. We'd love to have you join us. Everything you need is in text below. > Pre-registration is for the barrel tasting is closed but I know you can simply register at the first stop, which is Chalk Hill Winery. No problem. > Spies tell me some british cars were out that way last weekend (you guys?) and I know you've got an event on Sunday..... the weather seems to be cooperating, so please join us! > We aren't a group of any real sort, just a few members of the Jag club who'd rather drive than go to a dining event, and a couple of others including a split-window Corvette (not coming this time), a pagoda-roof MBZ280 SL (a few knocking cylinders, car is doubtful but owner is coming in something), and two Harleys and a two Ducatis. > Enjoy!! > Jim Christian > Meeting Point ? Saturday March 14, at 10:30 a.m. - Central Windsor. Heading north on US101, go past the Santa Rosa exits and past the Shiloh Road exit to the ?Central Windsor? exit. There is a stoplight at the off ramp. Go straight through the intersection. Immediately on your right just past the Exchange Bank is a driveway. Turn right, and park in front of the SoCo Caf?. There is a Starbucks right there, too. We?ll shove off at 11:00 a.m.. Route - I will have handouts at the Meeting Point: > 1. Exit the meeting point. Set trip odometer. Go left (east) on Old Redwood Highway (mile 0.0) > 2. Turn left on Pleasant Avenue (mile 0.9) > 3. Turn left on Chalk Hill Road (mile 2.0) > 4. Stop at Chalk Hill Estate Winery ? 10300 Chalk Hill Road (mile 4.2) CHECK-IN. 5. East on Chalk Hill, left on 128 (north) past Jimtown, stay north on 128 thru Geyserville > 6. Left on Canyon Road (west) (mile 21.4) > 7. Right on Dry Creek Road (north) (mile 23.6) > 8. Stop at Ferrari-Carano Winery ? arrangements with the winemaker (mile 25.4) > 9. Reverse on Dry Creek Road (south) 1.6 mi. to Yoakim Bridge 0.6 mi., north on W.Dry Creek 1.2 mi. to Bella Winery and Caves (mile 28.8) > 10. Reverse, head south on W. Dry Creek Road, re-cross Yoakim Br., right (south) on Dry Creek. > 11. Left turn into Dry Creek General Store (at Lambert Bridge) Buy food if you wish ? (mile 36.2.0) > 12. West on Lambert Bridge Road, short hop to Dry Creek Vineyards on left (mile 36.4) > If we decide to stop for lunch, we?ll picnic at Dry Creek Vineyards; otherwise it?s nosh-n-go > 13. Exit west on Lambert Bridge, > 14. Left on West Dry Creek Road (heading south) (mile 37) > 15. Right on Westside Road (heading west) (mile 42) > 16. Stop at Hop Kiln Winery ? 6050 Westside Road (mile 47.1) > 17. Continue on Westside Road, to Porter Creek Vineyards (mile 49.3) > 18. Continue on Westside Road, left on Wohler Bridge Road (mile 47.4) to River Road (mile 52.4) > 19. Decision Time ? if the day is almost over, head back with choice (a) and if not, take (b) (a) to head to US101 ? Go left, head east on River Road (to US101 ? mile 59) Last stop for wine before US101 is Kendall-Jackson, off River Road, left on Fulton Road (north) (mile 59.4) > (b) to head to Korbel ? Go right on River Road, stop at Korbel Champagne Cellars ? 13250 River Road (mile 57.7). Back to US 101 (and Kendall-Jackson), reverse heading east on River Road, to US 101 (mile 69.7) > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Thu Mar 12 11:56:20 2009 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:56:20 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: MARCH RIDE/EVENT] Reminder Message-ID: <49B95AD4.3010201@sonic.net> Here's a reminder from John about SUNDAYs ride. Note that the time and date are different than usual so don't show up Saturday ;-) Ron 58 MGA ******************************************************************* JUST A REMINDER ABOUT SUNDAYS EVENT LOOKS LIKE THE WEATHER WILL BE FINE. 16 CARS HAVE RESPONDED THAT THEY ARE COMING DON?T FORGET THOSE SIDE DISHES. RON WHEELER WILL BE PROVIDING SOFT DRINKS AND WATER IF YOU WANT SOMETHING HARDER THEN BRING IT. JOHN KENNER HELLO ALL, HERE IS WHAT I HAVE PLANNED: ON SUNDAY THE 15TH WE MEET AT THE USUAL PLACE ON RIVER ROAD AT 10:30 AM. AFTER WE STAND AROUND AND TALK FOR A WHILE WE WILL DEPART AROUND 11 AND GO FOR A SHORT DRIVE, ABOUT ? HOUR, OUT GREEN VALLEY ROAD AND MARTINELLI ROAD AND END UP AT RON WHEELER?S PLACE. RON WILL ENTERTAIN US FOR A WHILE, THEN WE WILL HAVE A BBQ AT HIS LOVELY LITTLE PARK. I WILL PROVIDE 5 MARINATED CHICKENS FOR US TO BBQ. THE SIDE DISHES WILL BE POT LUCK. HOPEFULLY IT WILL NOT BE RAINING THAT DAY BUT IF IT DOES WE WILL MOVE THE BBQ TO MY PLACE, WHICH IS 5 MINUTES FROM RON?S, WHERE I HAVE A COVERED OUTDOOR BBQ AREA. SO FAR 8 PEOPLE HAVE REPLIED TO ME THAT THEY ARE COMING. SOME OF THEM ARE COUPLES. IF MORE PEOPLE RESPOND I WILL GET MORE CHICKEN. SOUND GOOD? JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: 707 824 5640 tamalpais_s From tsthresh at hotmail.com Thu Mar 12 15:06:51 2009 From: tsthresh at hotmail.com (Tim Thresh) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:06:51 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT In-Reply-To: <000f01c99de1$f9c835e0$ed58a1a0$@com> References: <000f01c99de1$f9c835e0$ed58a1a0$@com> Message-ID: John, I have the duty roster finalized now for the Bed and Breakfast this week-end. The "management team" (my dear wife Jackie) has decided they are not going to church so I can make it this Sunday . Only myself , so I will likely pick up my side dish en-route to River Rd. See you all there. Tim Thresh ( in the other red '58 MGA) -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Kenner" Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:30 PM To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Subject: [Nobbc] MARCH RIDE/EVENT > HELLO ALL, > > > > HERE IS WHAT I HAVE PLANNED: > > > > ON SUNDAY THE 15TH WE MEET AT THE USUAL PLACE > > ON RIVER ROAD AT 10:30 AM. AFTER WE STAND AROUND > > AND TALK FOR A WHILE WE WILL DEPART AROUND 11 AND > > GO FOR A SHORT DRIVE, ABOUT = HOUR, OUT GREEN VALLEY ROAD > > AND MARTINELLI ROAD AND END UP AT RON WHEELERS PLACE. > > > > RON WILL ENTERTAIN US FOR A WHILE, THEN WE WILL > > HAVE A BBQ AT HIS LOVELY LITTLE PARK. > > I WILL PROVIDE 5 MARINATED CHICKENS FOR US > > TO BBQ. THE SIDE DISHES WILL BE POT LUCK. > > > > HOPEFULLY IT WILL NOT BE RAINING THAT DAY > > BUT IF IT DOES WE WILL MOVE THE BBQ TO MY PLACE, > > WHICH IS 5 MINUTES FROM RONS, WHERE I HAVE > > A COVERED OUTDOOR BBQ AREA. > > > > SO FAR 8 PEOPLE HAVE REPLIED TO ME THAT THEY ARE COMING. > > SOME OF THEM ARE COUPLES. IF MORE PEOPLE RESPOND I > > WILL GET MORE CHICKEN. > > > > SOUND GOOD? > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: > > 707 824 5640 > > > > tamalpais_s > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > From andypreston at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 12 18:24:37 2009 From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:24:37 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: MARCH RIDE/EVENT] Reminder In-Reply-To: <49B95AD4.3010201@sonic.net> Message-ID: <20090313022332.4A5E7187876@autox.team.net> Thanks for the reminder Ron, I assumed it was on Saturday and think there must be others out there with the same thoughts. See you Sunday. Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:56 AM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: MARCH RIDE/EVENT] Reminder Here's a reminder from John about SUNDAYs ride. Note that the time and date are different than usual so don't show up Saturday ;-) Ron 58 MGA ******************************************************************* JUST A REMINDER ABOUT SUNDAYS EVENT LOOKS LIKE THE WEATHER WILL BE FINE. 16 CARS HAVE RESPONDED THAT THEY ARE COMING DON?T FORGET THOSE SIDE DISHES. RON WHEELER WILL BE PROVIDING SOFT DRINKS AND WATER IF YOU WANT SOMETHING HARDER THEN BRING IT. JOHN KENNER HELLO ALL, HERE IS WHAT I HAVE PLANNED: ON SUNDAY THE 15TH WE MEET AT THE USUAL PLACE ON RIVER ROAD AT 10:30 AM. AFTER WE STAND AROUND AND TALK FOR A WHILE WE WILL DEPART AROUND 11 AND GO FOR A SHORT DRIVE, ABOUT ? HOUR, OUT GREEN VALLEY ROAD AND MARTINELLI ROAD AND END UP AT RON WHEELER?S PLACE. RON WILL ENTERTAIN US FOR A WHILE, THEN WE WILL HAVE A BBQ AT HIS LOVELY LITTLE PARK. I WILL PROVIDE 5 MARINATED CHICKENS FOR US TO BBQ. THE SIDE DISHES WILL BE POT LUCK. HOPEFULLY IT WILL NOT BE RAINING THAT DAY BUT IF IT DOES WE WILL MOVE THE BBQ TO MY PLACE, WHICH IS 5 MINUTES FROM RON?S, WHERE I HAVE A COVERED OUTDOOR BBQ AREA. SO FAR 8 PEOPLE HAVE REPLIED TO ME THAT THEY ARE COMING. SOME OF THEM ARE COUPLES. IF MORE PEOPLE RESPOND I WILL GET MORE CHICKEN. SOUND GOOD? JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: 707 824 5640 tamalpais_s _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From liamof at earthlink.net Sun Mar 15 09:45:04 2009 From: liamof at earthlink.net (liam oflaherty) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:45:04 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: MARCH RIDE/EVENT] Reminder References: <49B95AD4.3010201@sonic.net> Message-ID: <000701c9a58d$660c1750$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21> Hey everyone, Looks like I won't make it for the ride today sunday morning due to the rain showers forcasted. My old soft top is just not up for the challange. See ya on the next sunny day ride. Liam O'Flaherty 57 MGA roadster ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" To: Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:56 AM Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: MARCH RIDE/EVENT] Reminder Here's a reminder from John about SUNDAYs ride. Note that the time and date are different than usual so don't show up Saturday ;-) Ron 58 MGA ******************************************************************* JUST A REMINDER ABOUT SUNDAYS EVENT LOOKS LIKE THE WEATHER WILL BE FINE. 16 CARS HAVE RESPONDED THAT THEY ARE COMING DONT FORGET THOSE SIDE DISHES. RON WHEELER WILL BE PROVIDING SOFT DRINKS AND WATER IF YOU WANT SOMETHING HARDER THEN BRING IT. JOHN KENNER HELLO ALL, HERE IS WHAT I HAVE PLANNED: ON SUNDAY THE 15TH WE MEET AT THE USUAL PLACE ON RIVER ROAD AT 10:30 AM. AFTER WE STAND AROUND AND TALK FOR A WHILE WE WILL DEPART AROUND 11 AND GO FOR A SHORT DRIVE, ABOUT = HOUR, OUT GREEN VALLEY ROAD AND MARTINELLI ROAD AND END UP AT RON WHEELERS PLACE. RON WILL ENTERTAIN US FOR A WHILE, THEN WE WILL HAVE A BBQ AT HIS LOVELY LITTLE PARK. I WILL PROVIDE 5 MARINATED CHICKENS FOR US TO BBQ. THE SIDE DISHES WILL BE POT LUCK. HOPEFULLY IT WILL NOT BE RAINING THAT DAY BUT IF IT DOES WE WILL MOVE THE BBQ TO MY PLACE, WHICH IS 5 MINUTES FROM RONS, WHERE I HAVE A COVERED OUTDOOR BBQ AREA. SO FAR 8 PEOPLE HAVE REPLIED TO ME THAT THEY ARE COMING. SOME OF THEM ARE COUPLES. IF MORE PEOPLE RESPOND I WILL GET MORE CHICKEN. SOUND GOOD? JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: 707 824 5640 tamalpais_s _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From haiku99 at gmail.com Sun Mar 15 09:52:34 2009 From: haiku99 at gmail.com (Bill Crowe) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:52:34 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: MARCH RIDE/EVENT] Reminder In-Reply-To: <000701c9a58d$660c1750$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21> References: <49B95AD4.3010201@sonic.net> <000701c9a58d$660c1750$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21> Message-ID: <188b620b0903150952p5d5878ey89717e3216d86448@mail.gmail.com> same for me... bill On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 9:45 AM, liam oflaherty wrote: > Hey everyone, > Looks like I won't make it for the ride today sunday morning due to the > rain showers forcasted. My old soft top is just not up for the challange. > See ya on the next sunny day ride. > Liam O'Flaherty > 57 MGA roadster > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:56 AM > Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: MARCH RIDE/EVENT] Reminder > > > Here's a reminder from John about SUNDAYs ride. Note that the time and > date are different than usual so don't show up Saturday ;-) > > Ron > 58 MGA > > ******************************************************************* > > > JUST A REMINDER ABOUT SUNDAYS EVENT > > > > LOOKS LIKE THE WEATHER WILL BE FINE. > > > > 16 CARS HAVE RESPONDED THAT THEY ARE COMING > > > > DON T FORGET THOSE SIDE DISHES. > > > > RON WHEELER WILL BE PROVIDING SOFT DRINKS AND WATER > > IF YOU WANT SOMETHING HARDER THEN BRING IT. > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > > > HELLO ALL, > > > > HERE IS WHAT I HAVE PLANNED: > > > > ON SUNDAY THE 15TH WE MEET AT THE USUAL PLACE > > ON RIVER ROAD AT 10:30 AM. AFTER WE STAND AROUND > > AND TALK FOR A WHILE WE WILL DEPART AROUND 11 AND > > GO FOR A SHORT DRIVE, ABOUT = HOUR, OUT GREEN VALLEY ROAD > > AND MARTINELLI ROAD AND END UP AT RON WHEELER S PLACE. > > > > RON WILL ENTERTAIN US FOR A WHILE, THEN WE WILL > > HAVE A BBQ AT HIS LOVELY LITTLE PARK. > > I WILL PROVIDE 5 MARINATED CHICKENS FOR US > > TO BBQ. THE SIDE DISHES WILL BE POT LUCK. > > > > HOPEFULLY IT WILL NOT BE RAINING THAT DAY > > BUT IF IT DOES WE WILL MOVE THE BBQ TO MY PLACE, > > WHICH IS 5 MINUTES FROM RON S, WHERE I HAVE > > A COVERED OUTDOOR BBQ AREA. > > > > SO FAR 8 PEOPLE HAVE REPLIED TO ME THAT THEY ARE COMING. > > SOME OF THEM ARE COUPLES. IF MORE PEOPLE RESPOND I > > WILL GET MORE CHICKEN. > > > > SOUND GOOD? > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: > > 707 824 5640 > > > > tamalpais_s > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at gmail.com Sun Mar 15 19:26:45 2009 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:26:45 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday NOBBC drive/BBQ Message-ID: <49BDB8E5.3000609@gmail.com> Hey John, Thanks so much for organizing the drive and BBQ today today. Wish we had made the drive, but the tour of Ron Wheeler's was fun, getting together with members was great, and the BBQ was delicious. Thanks for generously supplying 10 chickens for us all to enjoy also! Cheers, Greg and Trish Tatarian From sarto477 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 15 20:05:40 2009 From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:05:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday NOBBC drive/BBQ In-Reply-To: <49BDB8E5.3000609@gmail.com> Message-ID: <684123.49807.qm@web50804.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi John, I double Greg and Trish's comments on the BBQ and Ron place. As a long time resident I found myself on roads that I have not traveled--what a treat! Sarto --- On Sun, 3/15/09, Greg Tatarian wrote: > From: Greg Tatarian > Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday NOBBC drive/BBQ > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Date: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 7:26 PM > Hey John, > Thanks so much for organizing the drive and BBQ today > today. Wish we had made the drive, but the tour of Ron > Wheeler's was fun, getting together with members was > great, and the BBQ was delicious. Thanks for generously > supplying 10 chickens for us all to enjoy also! > Cheers, > Greg and Trish Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From rnapda at aol.com Sun Mar 15 21:24:39 2009 From: rnapda at aol.com (Richard Anderon) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 21:24:39 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Great Outing Message-ID: Hi John, Thank you for organizing the drive and BBQ today. Your generously supplying the chickens as well as setting things up with Ron was great! Thanks again, Dick and Pam '67 Jag From anuccion at yahoo.com Mon Mar 16 17:57:47 2009 From: anuccion at yahoo.com (Al Nuccion) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday's drive Message-ID: <418925.32126.qm@web82707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> John, Thank you forsetting up the geat driveand BBQ on Sunday. Enjoyed meeting Ron & his family. Great chicken. Joyce & I enjoyed the event very much. Thanks again, Al& Joyce Nuccion '65 From rlmossholder at comcast.net Mon Mar 16 20:05:07 2009 From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Nobbc] Great Outing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1624873428.1714391237259107478.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Thanks John, Stacey and I had a great time on the ride, as well as meeting Ron and his family. Nice folks, very generous with their time and hospitality. Great to know that there are still body shops around that do more than just collision repair. Cheers, Rich M '71 Spitfire From SirPLB at aol.com Tue Mar 17 12:10:17 2009 From: SirPLB at aol.com (SirPLB at aol.com) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:10:17 EDT Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday NOBBC drive/BBQ Message-ID: Hi J, I also wanted to chime in on thanks for organizing this last ride. Although I had to pass on Ron's, I did enjoy participating on part of the drive. Cheers, Pat 74 JH ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219850974x1201371016/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26h mpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DMarchfooterNO62) From wildbillbart2 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 17 17:09:16 2009 From: wildbillbart2 at yahoo.com (William Cummings) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:09:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] March Run In-Reply-To: <1624873428.1714391237259107478.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <181493.46378.qm@web51108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hope to be at the next event! Doing brake job on the MG.Looking for any other MGB owners in Rohnert Park.Thanks,Bill Cummings'73 MGB From andypreston at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 17 19:05:47 2009 From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:05:47 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday Drive Message-ID: <20090318030419.D94C618787D@autox.team.net> John, many thanks for setting up the great drive on Sunday and for providing the chickens for the BBQ. We had a great time and enjoyed Ron's shop and talking to him, his son and everyone else. It was great to do something different. Many thanks Andy From mewgull at sonic.net Thu Mar 19 09:18:31 2009 From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:18:31 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] ESCAs 45th Annual April Fool's Rallye In-Reply-To: <20090318030419.D94C618787D@autox.team.net> References: <20090318030419.D94C618787D@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <460F2C06-28B5-41F9-A964-CC6A17BCD0A0@sonic.net> Hi all, The venerable Empire Sports Car Association of Santa Rosa is holding its 45th annual April Fool's Rallye. It's a fun event and will very likely take you on roads you never knew existed. The Rallye Master tends to plan the route through the most scenic parts of the area and gives you some puzzles to solve along the way. It would be great to see a number of the Brit machines out there. I happen to know that the dash plaque features an image of a certain XK from within the NOBBC ranks. Very pretty. So pick a favorite navigator and fire up your baby for a great time and a great drive. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of 45th AF Flyer.pdf] G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** Nobody roots for Goliath. Wilt Chamberlain From mewgull at sonic.net Thu Mar 19 09:41:51 2009 From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:41:51 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] ESCAs 45th Annual April Fool's Rallye In-Reply-To: <460F2C06-28B5-41F9-A964-CC6A17BCD0A0@sonic.net> References: <20090318030419.D94C618787D@autox.team.net> <460F2C06-28B5-41F9-A964-CC6A17BCD0A0@sonic.net> Message-ID: <91346021-68DC-40D8-BC57-7AC496CA9718@sonic.net> Trying again since the critical information got deleted on my last attempt. > Hi all, > > The venerable Empire Sports Car Association of Santa Rosa is holding > its > 45th annual April Fool's Rallye. It's a fun event and will very > likely take you on > roads you never knew existed. The Rallye Master tends to plan the > route through > the most scenic parts of the area and gives you some puzzles to solve > along the > way. It would be great to see a number of the Brit machines out > there. I > happen to know that the dash plaque features an image of a certain XK > from within the > NOBBC ranks. Very pretty. So pick a favorite navigator and fire up > your baby for > a great time and a great drive. > EMPIRE SPORTS CAR ASSOCIATION PRESENTS THE 45TH ANNUAL APRIL RALLYE FOOLS AN A-B RALLYE OPEN TO ALL TYPES OF CARS DATE: SUNDAY, APRIL 5, 2009 NEW START: THE CHARLES M. SCHULZ MUSEUM PARKING LOT - TAKE THE STEELE LANE EXIT OFF U.S. 101, ONE MILE NORTH OF DOWNTOWN SANTA ROSA. GO WEST ON STEELE. CONTINUE ONTO GUERNEVILLE. TURN RIGHT AT RANGE. TURN LEFT ON W. STEELE. TURN RIGHT AT HARDIES. THEN LEFT INTO THE SECOND DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS THE CHARLES M. SCHULZ PARKING LOT. TIME: REGISTRATION 10:30AM to 12:30PM, FIRST CAR OUT AT 11:45AM, LAST CAR OUT AT 1:00 PM FEE: ENTRY $15.00 PER CAR - $.50 POKER HAND (OPTIONAL) CLASSES: MASTER EXPERT, EXPERT, SENIOR, NOVICE, BEGINNER, FIRST TIMER AWARDS: MASTER EXPERT CLASS, AWARD FIRST AND SECOND PLACE EXPERT CLASS, AWARD FIRST AND SECOND PLACE SENIOR CLASS, AWARD FIRST THRU THIRD PLACE NOVICE CLASS, AWARD FIRST THRU THIRD PLACE BEGINNER CLASS, AWARD FIRST THRU FOURTH PLACE FIRST TIMER CLASS, AWARD FIRST THRU THIRD PLACE POKER AWARD $10.00 CASH A PARTICIPATION PLAQUE TO FIRST 40 CARS THE OVERALL WINNERS WILL HAVE THEIR NAMES ENGRAVED ON A LARGE PERPETUAL TROPHY THERE IS A 60 CAR LIMIT THE PROFITS FROM THIS RALLYE WILL GO TO CHARITY FINISH: ROUND TABLE PIZZA IN SANTA ROSA RALLYMASTER, BOB THE BEARD - FOR MORE INFORMATION CALL (707) 546-6867 OR E-MAIL thebeard at sonic.net THE APRIL FOOLS RALLYE WEBSITE IS: http://www.sonic.net/~thebeard/ You can run a practice A/B Map Rallye there. THERE WILL BE A SHORT RALLYE SCHOOL AT 11: 00 AM FOR ALL THOSE NEW TO RALLYING A RALLYE IS NOT A SPEED EVENT. A RALLYE IS A TEST OF A TEAMS ABILITY TO FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS ALONG THE ROUTE, WHILE LOOKING FOR SIGNS AND SITUATIONS THAT FIT THE DEFINITIONS OF THE RALLYE. G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** Nobody roots for Goliath. Wilt Chamberlain From techyes at pacbell.net Thu Mar 19 11:28:12 2009 From: techyes at pacbell.net (Sheryl) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:28:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] ESCAs 45th Annual April Fool's Rallye References: <20090318030419.D94C618787D@autox.team.net> <460F2C06-28B5-41F9-A964-CC6A17BCD0A0@sonic.net> Message-ID: <290249.62659.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Here is a link to the flyer. http://www.empiresportscar.org/newsletter/2009_04_esca_aprilfools.pdf ________________________________ From: G. Mugele To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:18:31 AM Subject: [Nobbc] ESCAs 45th Annual April Fool's Rallye Hi all, The venerable Empire Sports Car Association of Santa Rosa is holding its 45th annual April Fool's Rallye. It's a fun event and will very likely take you on roads you never knew existed. The Rallye Master tends to plan the route through the most scenic parts of the area and gives you some puzzles to solve along the way. It would be great to see a number of the Brit machines out there. I happen to know that the dash plaque features an image of a certain XK from within the NOBBC ranks. Very pretty. So pick a favorite navigator and fire up your baby for a great time and a great drive. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of 45th AF Flyer.pdf] G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** Nobody roots for Goliath. Wilt Chamberlain _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From santarosahunter at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 19 15:43:05 2009 From: santarosahunter at sbcglobal.net (Wayne Hunter) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] ESCAs 45th Annual April Fool's Rallye In-Reply-To: <290249.62659.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <113508.24754.qm@web82606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sheryl, Do you know if the Rallye route will potentially damage a classic paint job? Wayne santarosahunter at sbcglobal.net --- On Thu, 3/19/09, Sheryl wrote: From: Sheryl Subject: Re: [Nobbc] ESCAs 45th Annual April Fool's Rallye To: "North Bay British Car Club" Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 6:28 PM Here is a link to the flyer. http://www.empiresportscar.org/newsletter/2009_04_esca_aprilfools.pdf ________________________________ From: G. Mugele To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:18:31 AM Subject: [Nobbc] ESCAs 45th Annual April Fool's Rallye Hi all, The venerable Empire Sports Car Association of Santa Rosa is holding its 45th annual April Fool's Rallye. It's a fun event and will very likely take you on roads you never knew existed. The Rallye Master tends to plan the route through the most scenic parts of the area and gives you some puzzles to solve along the way. It would be great to see a number of the Brit machines out there. I happen to know that the dash plaque features an image of a certain XK from within the NOBBC ranks. Very pretty. So pick a favorite navigator and fire up your baby for a great time and a great drive. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of 45th AF Flyer.pdf] G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** Nobody roots for Goliath. Wilt Chamberlain _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From techyes at pacbell.net Thu Mar 19 17:16:50 2009 From: techyes at pacbell.net (Sheryl) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] ESCAs 45th Annual April Fool's Rallye References: <113508.24754.qm@web82606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <526834.5187.qm@web83603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi Wayne, I have no idea. I was only forwarding the link to the pdf because I noticed that it stripped off of the original message. I would address your question to the Rallymaster. >From the flyer: Rallymaster is Bob the Beard call 707-546-6867 or email thebeard at sonic.net Rallye website is http://www.sonic.net/~thebeard/ Sheryl ________________________________ From: Wayne Hunter To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:43:05 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] ESCAs 45th Annual April Fool's Rallye Sheryl, Do you know if the Rallye route will potentially damage a classic paint job? Wayne santarosahunter at sbcglobal.net --- On Thu, 3/19/09, Sheryl wrote: From: Sheryl Subject: Re: [Nobbc] ESCAs 45th Annual April Fool's Rallye To: "North Bay British Car Club" Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 6:28 PM Here is a link to the flyer. http://www.empiresportscar.org/newsletter/2009_04_esca_aprilfools.pdf ________________________________ From: G. Mugele To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:18:31 AM Subject: [Nobbc] ESCAs 45th Annual April Fool's Rallye Hi all, The venerable Empire Sports Car Association of Santa Rosa is holding its 45th annual April Fool's Rallye. It's a fun event and will very likely take you on roads you never knew existed. The Rallye Master tends to plan the route through the most scenic parts of the area and gives you some puzzles to solve along the way. It would be great to see a number of the Brit machines out there. I happen to know that the dash plaque features an image of a certain XK from within the NOBBC ranks. Very pretty. So pick a favorite navigator and fire up your baby for a great time and a great drive. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of 45th AF Flyer.pdf] G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** Nobody roots for Goliath. Wilt Chamberlain _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From mowog at sonic.net Thu Mar 19 17:37:28 2009 From: mowog at sonic.net (Rod Williams) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:37:28 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] ESCAs 45th Annual April Fool's Rallye In-Reply-To: <113508.24754.qm@web82606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <113508.24754.qm@web82606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <18827E35-BC63-4BFA-975F-8900F088D689@sonic.net> On Mar 19, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Wayne Hunter wrote: > Do you know if the Rallye route will potentially damage a classic > paint job? I've participated in this event in the past. It's a "gimmick" type rally; you are given navigation directions to follow and observations to note. It's conducted over all kinds of fun and beautiful Sonoma County backroads and streets but none of them "off road" in any way. It's more "California Mille" than "Paris-Dakkar". -- Rod Williams Petaluma, California 1967 MGB From nobbc at sonic.net Thu Mar 19 17:37:40 2009 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:37:40 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] ESCAs 45th Annual April Fool's Rallye In-Reply-To: <113508.24754.qm@web82606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <113508.24754.qm@web82606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49C2E554.1060605@sonic.net> Club members have done it in the past. If I recall, it is a fun rally not a technical timed rally and uses normal local roads. Ron 58 MGA Wayne Hunter wrote: > Sheryl, > Do you know if the Rallye route will potentially damage a classic paint job? > Wayne > santarosahunter at sbcglobal.net > > --- On Thu, 3/19/09, Sheryl wrote: > > From: Sheryl > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] ESCAs 45th Annual April Fool's Rallye > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 6:28 PM > > Here is a link to the flyer. > > http://www.empiresportscar.org/newsletter/2009_04_esca_aprilfools.pdf > > > > > ________________________________ > From: G. Mugele > To: North Bay British Car Club > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:18:31 AM > Subject: [Nobbc] ESCAs 45th Annual April Fool's Rallye > > Hi all, > > The venerable Empire Sports Car Association of Santa Rosa is holding its > 45th annual April Fool's Rallye. It's a fun event and will very > likely take you on > roads you never knew existed. The Rallye Master tends to plan the > route through > the most scenic parts of the area and gives you some puzzles to solve > along the > way. It would be great to see a number of the Brit machines out > there. I > happen to know that the dash plaque features an image of a certain XK > from within the > NOBBC ranks. Very pretty. So pick a favorite navigator and fire up > your baby for > a great time and a great drive. > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of > 45th AF Flyer.pdf] > G. Mugele > mewgull at mugele.net > > *** Nobody roots for Goliath. Wilt Chamberlain > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From thebeard at sonic.net Thu Mar 19 17:27:01 2009 From: thebeard at sonic.net (Bob Jenkins) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:27:01 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] ESCAs 45th Annual April Fool's Rallye In-Reply-To: <526834.5187.qm@web83603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <113508.24754.qm@web82606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <526834.5187.qm@web83603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi, All roads are paved, so no more so than driving on any paved road. This is NOT a speed contest, just a run on mostly country back roads, gimmick rallye. So, the answer is no the rallye route will not damage a classic paint job? Bob the Beard On Mar 19, 2009, at 5:16 PM, Sheryl wrote: > Hi Wayne, > > I have no idea. I was only forwarding the link to the pdf because I > noticed that it stripped off of the original message. > I would address your question to the Rallymaster. > > From the flyer: Rallymaster is Bob the Beard call 707-546-6867 or > email thebeard at sonic.net > > Rallye website is http://www.sonic.net/~thebeard/ > > Sheryl > > From: Wayne Hunter > To: North Bay British Car Club > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:43:05 PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] ESCAs 45th Annual April Fool's Rallye > > Sheryl, > Do you know if the Rallye route will potentially damage a classic > paint job? > Wayne > santarosahunter at sbcglobal.net > > --- On Thu, 3/19/09, Sheryl wrote: > > From: Sheryl > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] ESCAs 45th Annual April Fool's Rallye > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 6:28 PM > > Here is a link to the flyer. > > http://www.empiresportscar.org/newsletter/2009_04_esca_aprilfools.pdf > > > > > ________________________________ > From: G. Mugele > To: North Bay British Car Club > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:18:31 AM > Subject: [Nobbc] ESCAs 45th Annual April Fool's Rallye > > Hi all, > > The venerable Empire Sports Car Association of Santa Rosa is > holding its > 45th annual April Fool's Rallye. It's a fun event and will very > likely take you on > roads you never knew existed. The Rallye Master tends to plan the > route through > the most scenic parts of the area and gives you some puzzles to solve > along the > way. It would be great to see a number of the Brit machines out > there. I > happen to know that the dash plaque features an image of a certain XK > from within the > NOBBC ranks. Very pretty. So pick a favorite navigator and fire up > your baby for > a great time and a great drive. > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which > had a name of > 45th AF Flyer.pdf] > G. Mugele > mewgull at mugele.net > > *** Nobody roots for Goliath. Wilt Chamberlain > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From mewgull at sonic.net Thu Mar 19 20:02:58 2009 From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:02:58 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] ESCAs 45th Annual April Fool's Rallye In-Reply-To: <113508.24754.qm@web82606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <113508.24754.qm@web82606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I did a prerun (to test the logic of the instructions) and can promise that if you stay on the pavement your paint is safe. Gerry On Mar 19, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Wayne Hunter wrote: > Sheryl, > Do you know if the Rallye route will potentially damage a classic > paint job? > Wayne > santarosahunter at sbcglobal.net G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** Nobody roots for Goliath. Wilt Chamberlain From don at napanet.net Sat Mar 21 15:10:39 2009 From: don at napanet.net (don) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:10:39 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321140158.03442ce8@pop.napanet.net> Back in the late '50s through early '70s, British car dealerships could be found in most US cities of any size, especially in California. Even before I got my first British car in 1965, I loved visiting the showrooms to admire the MGs, Triumphs and other British cars. Of course, I would always pilfer as many sales brochures as I could hoping to not upset the salespeople too much. I remember the BMC/Jaguar dealer in Napa on Soscol Avenue, which was to become Napa Valley Datsun when they dropped the British car line around 1967. There was a BMC dealer that tried again in Napa shortly after but didn't last long. I remember taking my MGA there for repairs in 1968, but I don't remember the name of the place. I do remember that it was very expensive to pay someone to repair my car, and after that, did most of my repairs myself. The name of it might have been Washborn Imports. In Santa Rosa, there was Ralph Vesper Motors on Santa Rosa Avenue which sold Triumphs and British Fords. I remember that dealership, because, as I bought parts for my old Anglia and Zodiac (c. 1966, '67), I was distracted by the siren's call of the sleek TR4s and Spitfires on display in the showroom. I still have a few pieces of the Triumph literature I took on visits to Vesper. Car dealers usually left their identification by irubber stamping their names and addresses onto the front or back of the sales literature. Vesper's name and address sill adorn my old Triumph brochures. The most interesting dealership to visit was always British Motors on Van Ness Avenue in San Francisco. They had Jaguar, Rolls Royce and the whole BMC line, and the cars they had on display were always of a high calibre. This was such a classy place that I always felt underdressed because I wasn't wearing a suit and tie. As an extreme British car nut, I was thrilled just to purchase parts there. I do have several license plate frames from there, which I think are a cool period accessory. Other dealerships that come to mind are Union Jack (BMC) in Hayward and British Motors in San Jose. Anyone else have any recollections of the British car dealer world in the area? Don Scott Calistoga 1962 MGA Mk II 1991 Miata BRG 1973 MGB GT 1962 TR4 (seeking) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM From nobbc at sonic.net Sat Mar 21 16:24:09 2009 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:24:09 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321140158.03442ce8@pop.napanet.net> References: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321140158.03442ce8@pop.napanet.net> Message-ID: <49C57719.9050101@sonic.net> Well, no direct memory but my car still has the original license plate frame from Carl Carlson in San Francisco. The original owner was the fire chief in Sausalito. Ron 58 MGA don wrote: > Back in the late '50s through early '70s, British car dealerships could > be found in most US cities of any size, especially in California. Even > before I got my first British car in 1965, I loved visiting the > showrooms to admire the MGs, Triumphs and other British cars. Of > course, I would always pilfer as many sales brochures as I could hoping > to not upset the salespeople too much. > > I remember the BMC/Jaguar dealer in Napa on Soscol Avenue, which was to > become Napa Valley Datsun when they dropped the British car line around > 1967. There was a BMC dealer that tried again in Napa shortly after but > didn't last long. I remember taking my MGA there for repairs in 1968, > but I don't remember the name of the place. I do remember that it was > very expensive to pay someone to repair my car, and after that, did most > of my repairs myself. The name of it might have been Washborn Imports. > > In Santa Rosa, there was Ralph Vesper Motors on Santa Rosa Avenue which > sold Triumphs and British Fords. I remember that dealership, because, > as I bought parts for my old Anglia and Zodiac (c. 1966, '67), I was > distracted by the siren's call of the sleek TR4s and Spitfires on > display in the showroom. I still have a few pieces of the Triumph > literature I took on visits to Vesper. Car dealers usually left their > identification by irubber stamping their names and addresses onto the > front or back of the sales literature. Vesper's name and address sill > adorn my old Triumph brochures. > > The most interesting dealership to visit was always British Motors on > Van Ness Avenue in San Francisco. They had Jaguar, Rolls Royce and the > whole BMC line, and the cars they had on display were always of a high > calibre. This was such a classy place that I always felt underdressed > because I wasn't wearing a suit and tie. As an extreme British car nut, > I was thrilled just to purchase parts there. I do have several license > plate frames from there, which I think are a cool period accessory. > > Other dealerships that come to mind are Union Jack (BMC) in Hayward and > British Motors in San Jose. > > Anyone else have any recollections of the British car dealer world in > the area? > > Don Scott > Calistoga > 1962 MGA Mk II > 1991 Miata BRG > 1973 MGB GT > 1962 TR4 (seeking) From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Sat Mar 21 17:10:23 2009 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:10:23 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <49C57719.9050101@sonic.net> References: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321140158.03442ce8@pop.napanet.net> <49C57719.9050101@sonic.net> Message-ID: <95a735e60903211710v65a0f28ycff259217b1a1fd5@mail.gmail.com> E.F. Sweeney British Cars was in San Anselmo, on the hub; they moved to San Rafael on the road near Bermuda Palms. Both businesses are long gone. There was Shamrock Motors in Mill Valley that dealt Citroen, Peugeot and Morgans. I was quite friendly with the Hannon brothers who ran it. Also in San Rafael was Bud Oden's Marin Motorsports. He was a dealer for Triumph and English Ford. Frank Henry had a Morgan dealership in Berkeley on Telegraph. He kept the Mogs on an open lot as he had no showroom. Bill Breeze sold Lotus 11's from his shop in Sausaleto, near where the seaplanes are now. Bob Winkelmann had four Winkelmann Formula Ford dealerships across the country, the home one being in Sausaleto. He imported @250 of these open wheelers. Larry Albedi (some may know his voice as he still announces at Sears Point - it will always be Sears, to me) had various dealerships around the bay area, notably Vallejo British Cars. Bob Cole was down on the Peninsula with has dealership and there was also a Morgan dealer there, Frank Crane, who I raced with. We had quite a Morgan contingent in those days, late 50's early 60's, who got welcome support from dealers. Rusty Hyde sold Triumphs in San Fran, as I recall. Some of this is a little foggy as you have jolted memories of quite a long time ago. For that I thank you, Don. By the way, I bought my MGA from EF Sweeney in 1957 when I was released from active duty with USMC. I traded it soon therafter and bought my first Plus 4 Moggie from Frank Henry. Phil Washburn, as I recall, had a dealership on Santa Rosa Ave. where the motor home lot is. I remember him racing at Cotati Raceways when it was open. The power behind Brit Mtrs. in San Fran was Schell Quavale (I know my spelling is off, but close phonetically!) While I still had my shop in Santa Rosa he visited. Well in his 80's he still went to work. I believe Carlson was exclusevely VW Porsche. Your A, Ron may have been a trade in. On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > Well, no direct memory but my car still has the original license plate > frame from Carl Carlson in San Francisco. The original owner was the fire > chief in Sausalito. > > Ron > 58 MGA > > don wrote: > > Back in the late '50s through early '70s, British car dealerships could be >> found in most US cities of any size, especially in California. Even before >> I got my first British car in 1965, I loved visiting the showrooms to admire >> the MGs, Triumphs and other British cars. Of course, I would always pilfer >> as many sales brochures as I could hoping to not upset the salespeople too >> much. >> >> I remember the BMC/Jaguar dealer in Napa on Soscol Avenue, which was to >> become Napa Valley Datsun when they dropped the British car line around >> 1967. There was a BMC dealer that tried again in Napa shortly after but >> didn't last long. I remember taking my MGA there for repairs in 1968, but I >> don't remember the name of the place. I do remember that it was very >> expensive to pay someone to repair my car, and after that, did most of my >> repairs myself. The name of it might have been Washborn Imports. >> >> In Santa Rosa, there was Ralph Vesper Motors on Santa Rosa Avenue which >> sold Triumphs and British Fords. I remember that dealership, because, as I >> bought parts for my old Anglia and Zodiac (c. 1966, '67), I was distracted >> by the siren's call of the sleek TR4s and Spitfires on display in the >> showroom. I still have a few pieces of the Triumph literature I took on >> visits to Vesper. Car dealers usually left their identification by irubber >> stamping their names and addresses onto the front or back of the sales >> literature. Vesper's name and address sill adorn my old Triumph brochures. >> >> The most interesting dealership to visit was always British Motors on Van >> Ness Avenue in San Francisco. They had Jaguar, Rolls Royce and the whole >> BMC line, and the cars they had on display were always of a high calibre. >> This was such a classy place that I always felt underdressed because I >> wasn't wearing a suit and tie. As an extreme British car nut, I was >> thrilled just to purchase parts there. I do have several license plate >> frames from there, which I think are a cool period accessory. >> >> Other dealerships that come to mind are Union Jack (BMC) in Hayward and >> British Motors in San Jose. >> >> Anyone else have any recollections of the British car dealer world in the >> area? >> >> Don Scott >> Calistoga >> 1962 MGA Mk II >> 1991 Miata BRG >> 1973 MGB GT >> 1962 TR4 (seeking) >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jamesechristian at yahoo.com Sat Mar 21 17:16:08 2009 From: jamesechristian at yahoo.com (jamesechristian at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:16:08 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <95a735e60903211710v65a0f28ycff259217b1a1fd5@mail.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321140158.03442ce8@pop.napanet.net><49C57719.9050101@sonic.net><95a735e60903211710v65a0f28ycff259217b1a1fd5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: My uncle was Eugene F. Sweeney who had EFSweeney British on E. Fancisco in San Rafael. If anybody in the club has a pair of EFSweeney licence plate frames gathering dust, I'd love to buy 'em! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Robin Jackson Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:10:23 To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area E.F. Sweeney British Cars was in San Anselmo, on the hub; they moved to San Rafael on the road near Bermuda Palms. Both businesses are long gone. There was Shamrock Motors in Mill Valley that dealt Citroen, Peugeot and Morgans. I was quite friendly with the Hannon brothers who ran it. Also in San Rafael was Bud Oden's Marin Motorsports. He was a dealer for Triumph and English Ford. Frank Henry had a Morgan dealership in Berkeley on Telegraph. He kept the Mogs on an open lot as he had no showroom. Bill Breeze sold Lotus 11's from his shop in Sausaleto, near where the seaplanes are now. Bob Winkelmann had four Winkelmann Formula Ford dealerships across the country, the home one being in Sausaleto. He imported @250 of these open wheelers. Larry Albedi (some may know his voice as he still announces at Sears Point - it will always be Sears, to me) had various dealerships around the bay area, notably Vallejo British Cars. Bob Cole was down on the Peninsula with has dealership and there was also a Morgan dealer there, Frank Crane, who I raced with. We had quite a Morgan contingent in those days, late 50's early 60's, who got welcome support from dealers. Rusty Hyde sold Triumphs in San Fran, as I recall. Some of this is a little foggy as you have jolted memories of quite a long time ago. For that I thank you, Don. By the way, I bought my MGA from EF Sweeney in 1957 when I was released from active duty with USMC. I traded it soon therafter and bought my first Plus 4 Moggie from Frank Henry. Phil Washburn, as I recall, had a dealership on Santa Rosa Ave. where the motor home lot is. I remember him racing at Cotati Raceways when it was open. The power behind Brit Mtrs. in San Fran was Schell Quavale (I know my spelling is off, but close phonetically!) While I still had my shop in Santa Rosa he visited. Well in his 80's he still went to work. I believe Carlson was exclusevely VW Porsche. Your A, Ron may have been a trade in. On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > Well, no direct memory but my car still has the original license plate > frame from Carl Carlson in San Francisco. The original owner was the fire > chief in Sausalito. > > Ron > 58 MGA > > don wrote: > > Back in the late '50s through early '70s, British car dealerships could be >> found in most US cities of any size, especially in California. Even before >> I got my first British car in 1965, I loved visiting the showrooms to admire >> the MGs, Triumphs and other British cars. Of course, I would always pilfer >> as many sales brochures as I could hoping to not upset the salespeople too >> much. >> >> I remember the BMC/Jaguar dealer in Napa on Soscol Avenue, which was to >> become Napa Valley Datsun when they dropped the British car line around >> 1967. There was a BMC dealer that tried again in Napa shortly after but >> didn't last long. I remember taking my MGA there for repairs in 1968, but I >> don't remember the name of the place. I do remember that it was very >> expensive to pay someone to repair my car, and after that, did most of my >> repairs myself. The name of it might have been Washborn Imports. >> >> In Santa Rosa, there was Ralph Vesper Motors on Santa Rosa Avenue which >> sold Triumphs and British Fords. I remember that dealership, because, as I >> bought parts for my old Anglia and Zodiac (c. 1966, '67), I was distracted >> by the siren's call of the sleek TR4s and Spitfires on display in the >> showroom. I still have a few pieces of the Triumph literature I took on >> visits to Vesper. Car dealers usually left their identification by irubber >> stamping their names and addresses onto the front or back of the sales >> literature. Vesper's name and address sill adorn my old Triumph brochures. >> >> The most interesting dealership to visit was always British Motors on Van >> Ness Avenue in San Francisco. They had Jaguar, Rolls Royce and the whole >> BMC line, and the cars they had on display were always of a high calibre. >> This was such a classy place that I always felt underdressed because I >> wasn't wearing a suit and tie. As an extreme British car nut, I was >> thrilled just to purchase parts there. I do have several license plate >> frames from there, which I think are a cool period accessory. >> >> Other dealerships that come to mind are Union Jack (BMC) in Hayward and >> British Motors in San Jose. >> >> Anyone else have any recollections of the British car dealer world in the >> area? >> >> Don Scott >> Calistoga >> 1962 MGA Mk II >> 1991 Miata BRG >> 1973 MGB GT >> 1962 TR4 (seeking) >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From don at napanet.net Sat Mar 21 17:34:54 2009 From: don at napanet.net (don) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:34:54 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <95a735e60903211710v65a0f28ycff259217b1a1fd5@mail.gmail.com > References: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321140158.03442ce8@pop.napanet.net> <49C57719.9050101@sonic.net> <95a735e60903211710v65a0f28ycff259217b1a1fd5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321162700.03453030@pop.napanet.net> Robin, Thanks for jarring my memory! Now, I remember Washburn on the east side of SR Avenue near Petaluma Hill Road. It was a long building and the showroom was at the street and the service bays were in line behind it. And I remember going to EF Sweeney in San Rafael now. One memorable event was buying parts there for an MG. There was a young woman who had bought an Austin Marina new at the dealership not long before, and she told me the sad story of how everything on the car had broken. That was in the early '70s. No wonder the Japanese were able to take over the imported car market from the Brits. Don Calistoga -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM From splath at comcast.net Sat Mar 21 17:54:21 2009 From: splath at comcast.net (Steve Plath) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:54:21 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area References: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321140158.03442ce8@pop.napanet.net> Message-ID: <34CA9886F8FE4129B7114390F2247438@dell8300> Back in 1970 I took my 67 MGB GT into BMC Motors in San Francisco. While waiting I started talking to another "long hair" who was waiting for his E-Type to be serviced. I asked him what he did and he said he was a musician. Turns out he was David Laflamme leader of the 60's acid rock band "It's a Beautiful Day". It made my day that's for sure. Back then you never knew who you would run into at BMC Motors. And then there's the famous Grace Slick Aston Martin story from the same BMC Motors. Ah memories. On another note the Daimler is finally finished and maybe I will join you on a run once the rain stops. Better yet we should plan a run in Marin my home territory. Steve Plath ----- Original Message ----- From: "don" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 3:10 PM Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > Back in the late '50s through early '70s, British car dealerships could be > found in most US cities of any size, especially in California. Even > before I got my first British car in 1965, I loved visiting the showrooms > to admire the MGs, Triumphs and other British cars. Of course, I would > always pilfer as many sales brochures as I could hoping to not upset the > salespeople too much. > > I remember the BMC/Jaguar dealer in Napa on Soscol Avenue, which was to > become Napa Valley Datsun when they dropped the British car line around > 1967. There was a BMC dealer that tried again in Napa shortly after but > didn't last long. I remember taking my MGA there for repairs in 1968, but > I don't remember the name of the place. I do remember that it was very > expensive to pay someone to repair my car, and after that, did most of my > repairs myself. The name of it might have been Washborn Imports. > > In Santa Rosa, there was Ralph Vesper Motors on Santa Rosa Avenue which > sold Triumphs and British Fords. I remember that dealership, because, as > I bought parts for my old Anglia and Zodiac (c. 1966, '67), I was > distracted by the siren's call of the sleek TR4s and Spitfires on display > in the showroom. I still have a few pieces of the Triumph literature I > took on visits to Vesper. Car dealers usually left their identification > by irubber stamping their names and addresses onto the front or back of > the sales literature. Vesper's name and address sill adorn my old Triumph > brochures. > > The most interesting dealership to visit was always British Motors on Van > Ness Avenue in San Francisco. They had Jaguar, Rolls Royce and the whole > BMC line, and the cars they had on display were always of a high calibre. > This was such a classy place that I always felt underdressed because I > wasn't wearing a suit and tie. As an extreme British car nut, I was > thrilled just to purchase parts there. I do have several license plate > frames from there, which I think are a cool period accessory. > > Other dealerships that come to mind are Union Jack (BMC) in Hayward and > British Motors in San Jose. > > Anyone else have any recollections of the British car dealer world in the > area? > > Don Scott > Calistoga > 1962 MGA Mk II > 1991 Miata BRG > 1973 MGB GT > 1962 TR4 (seeking) > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - > Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From mowog at sonic.net Sat Mar 21 18:00:53 2009 From: mowog at sonic.net (Rod Williams) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:00:53 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321140158.03442ce8@pop.napanet.net> References: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321140158.03442ce8@pop.napanet.net> Message-ID: > Anyone else have any recollections of the British car dealer world > in the area? My '67 MGB has the original "black plates", front and back, with license plate frames from "British Motors Sunnyvale" in the back and "Sunnyvale British Motors" in the front. I know the car came from the Peninsula area although I haven't been able to trace the original owner. I think I am the 3rd owner. -- Rod Williams Petaluma, California 1967 MGB From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Sat Mar 21 18:36:32 2009 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:36:32 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <20090322011633.2AC1518767E@autox.team.net> References: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321140158.03442ce8@pop.napanet.net> <49C57719.9050101@sonic.net> <95a735e60903211710v65a0f28ycff259217b1a1fd5@mail.gmail.com> <20090322011633.2AC1518767E@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <95a735e60903211836t3fb8a48dk7041c981400d0cef@mail.gmail.com> James - at one time I had frames from your uncle's dealership. He was a well respected businessman and Brit car guy. Maybe you remember friends of mine who were salesmen: Mick Marston and Jack Dalton. Jack drove #40 MGA in SCCA. Anyway, the frames had a Union Jack on the right corner; very classy! Like so much of my "stuff" from that era, long gone. On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 5:16 PM, wrote: > My uncle was Eugene F. Sweeney who had EFSweeney British on E. Fancisco in > San Rafael. If anybody in the club has a pair of EFSweeney licence plate > frames gathering dust, I'd love to buy 'em! > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin Jackson > > Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:10:23 > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > > > E.F. Sweeney British Cars was in San Anselmo, on the hub; they moved to San > Rafael on the road near Bermuda Palms. Both businesses are long gone. > There was Shamrock Motors in Mill Valley that dealt Citroen, Peugeot and > Morgans. I was quite friendly with the Hannon brothers who ran it. > Also in San Rafael was Bud Oden's Marin Motorsports. He was a dealer for > Triumph and English Ford. Frank Henry had a Morgan dealership in Berkeley > on > Telegraph. He kept the Mogs on an open lot as he had no showroom. > > Bill Breeze sold Lotus 11's from his shop in Sausaleto, near where the > seaplanes are now. Bob Winkelmann had four Winkelmann Formula Ford > dealerships across the country, the home one being in Sausaleto. He > imported > @250 of these open wheelers. > > Larry Albedi (some may know his voice as he still announces at Sears Point > - > it will always be Sears, to me) had various dealerships around the bay > area, > notably Vallejo British Cars. Bob Cole was down on the Peninsula with has > dealership and there was also a Morgan dealer there, Frank Crane, who I > raced with. We had quite a Morgan contingent in those days, late 50's early > 60's, who got welcome support from dealers. Rusty Hyde sold Triumphs in San > Fran, as I recall. Some of this is a little foggy as you have jolted > memories of quite a long time ago. For that I thank you, Don. By the way, > I > bought my MGA from EF Sweeney in 1957 when I was released from active duty > with USMC. I traded it soon therafter and bought my first Plus 4 Moggie > from > Frank Henry. > > Phil Washburn, as I recall, had a dealership on Santa Rosa Ave. where the > motor home lot is. I remember him racing at Cotati Raceways when it was > open. The power behind Brit Mtrs. in San Fran was Schell Quavale (I know > my > spelling is off, but close phonetically!) While I still had my shop in > Santa > Rosa he visited. Well in his 80's he still went to work. I believe Carlson > was exclusevely VW Porsche. Your A, Ron may have been a trade in. > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > > > Well, no direct memory but my car still has the original license plate > > frame from Carl Carlson in San Francisco. The original owner was the fire > > chief in Sausalito. > > > > Ron > > 58 MGA > > > > don wrote: > > > > Back in the late '50s through early '70s, British car dealerships could > be > >> found in most US cities of any size, especially in California. Even > before > >> I got my first British car in 1965, I loved visiting the showrooms to > admire > >> the MGs, Triumphs and other British cars. Of course, I would always > pilfer > >> as many sales brochures as I could hoping to not upset the salespeople > too > >> much. > >> > >> I remember the BMC/Jaguar dealer in Napa on Soscol Avenue, which was to > >> become Napa Valley Datsun when they dropped the British car line around > >> 1967. There was a BMC dealer that tried again in Napa shortly after but > >> didn't last long. I remember taking my MGA there for repairs in 1968, > but I > >> don't remember the name of the place. I do remember that it was very > >> expensive to pay someone to repair my car, and after that, did most of > my > >> repairs myself. The name of it might have been Washborn Imports. > >> > >> In Santa Rosa, there was Ralph Vesper Motors on Santa Rosa Avenue which > >> sold Triumphs and British Fords. I remember that dealership, because, > as I > >> bought parts for my old Anglia and Zodiac (c. 1966, '67), I was > distracted > >> by the siren's call of the sleek TR4s and Spitfires on display in the > >> showroom. I still have a few pieces of the Triumph literature I took on > >> visits to Vesper. Car dealers usually left their identification by > irubber > >> stamping their names and addresses onto the front or back of the sales > >> literature. Vesper's name and address sill adorn my old Triumph > brochures. > >> > >> The most interesting dealership to visit was always British Motors on > Van > >> Ness Avenue in San Francisco. They had Jaguar, Rolls Royce and the > whole > >> BMC line, and the cars they had on display were always of a high > calibre. > >> This was such a classy place that I always felt underdressed because I > >> wasn't wearing a suit and tie. As an extreme British car nut, I was > >> thrilled just to purchase parts there. I do have several license plate > >> frames from there, which I think are a cool period accessory. > >> > >> Other dealerships that come to mind are Union Jack (BMC) in Hayward and > >> British Motors in San Jose. > >> > >> Anyone else have any recollections of the British car dealer world in > the > >> area? > >> > >> Don Scott > >> Calistoga > >> 1962 MGA Mk II > >> 1991 Miata BRG > >> 1973 MGB GT > >> 1962 TR4 (seeking) > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From mewgull at sonic.net Sat Mar 21 19:13:01 2009 From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:13:01 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321162700.03453030@pop.napanet.net> References: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321140158.03442ce8@pop.napanet.net> <49C57719.9050101@sonic.net> <95a735e60903211710v65a0f28ycff259217b1a1fd5@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.3.0.1.20090321162700.03453030@pop.napanet.net> Message-ID: <0FA9693B-6C40-4381-8BA4-266E8C32BBC4@sonic.net> Hi Don and Robin, I think the place you're describing on SR Ave. was Vesper Motors. I recall a Washburn Motors but I think the Santa Rosa shop only sold used cars. I do recall it in a location near there... maybe they took over that spot after Vesper closed up shop in the 70s G.K. Hardt handled BMC stuff in Santa Rosa into the 60s sometime. It was on SR Ave., West side, between Sebastopol Ave. and Maple Ave. In early '64 they even opened up a Jag/Cobra/MG dealership annex... it was North of town back then.... now that location is in town near the K-Mart. .... NW corner of Cleveland Ave and Industrial Dr. If you want to include ALL Brit cars ya hafta include Paul Felton on Van Ness in SF.... Rovers and Land Rovers. There were also Rover dealers in Berkeley, El Cerrito and down the Peninsula. Just in the idle curiosity category, I think it's interesting that the first Land Rover dealership west of the Rockies was in Willets. It was Carbrey Motors and they handled Ramblers, International and Caterpillar as well. Gerry Glen Ellen On Mar 21, 2009, at 5:34 PM, don wrote: > Robin, > Thanks for jarring my memory! Now, I remember Washburn on the east > side of SR Avenue near Petaluma Hill Road. It was a long building > and the showroom was at the street and the service bays were in line > behind it. > And I remember going to EF Sweeney in San Rafael now. One memorable > event was buying parts there for an MG. There was a young woman who > had bought an Austin Marina new at the dealership not long before, > and she told me the sad story of how everything on the car had > broken. That was in the early '70s. No wonder the Japanese were > able to take over the imported car market from the Brits. > Don > Calistoga G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** Nobody roots for Goliath. Wilt Chamberlain From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Sat Mar 21 20:07:28 2009 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:07:28 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <0FA9693B-6C40-4381-8BA4-266E8C32BBC4@sonic.net> References: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321140158.03442ce8@pop.napanet.net> <49C57719.9050101@sonic.net> <95a735e60903211710v65a0f28ycff259217b1a1fd5@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.3.0.1.20090321162700.03453030@pop.napanet.net> <0FA9693B-6C40-4381-8BA4-266E8C32BBC4@sonic.net> Message-ID: <95a735e60903212007neb97ec0k8c88320ddd192856@mail.gmail.com> Gerry - I believe you are correct. I think Washburn moved into Vesper's and was not a Dealer. Did GK Hardt sell DKW's? I was pit crew for Waters Dodge in San Fran when they ran DKW's at Cotati, probably @1958. As I recall Hardt had some interest in the DeeKee Doo's. They carried the auto union circles and later became Audi, I think. They were three bangers, FWD, and cornered well on three wheels as long as you kept your foot down.!!! On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 7:13 PM, G. Mugele wrote: > Hi Don and Robin, > > I think the place you're describing on SR Ave. was Vesper Motors. I > recall a Washburn Motors but I think the Santa Rosa shop only sold > used cars. I do recall it in a location near there... maybe they > took over that spot after Vesper closed up shop in the 70s G.K. > Hardt handled BMC stuff in Santa Rosa into the 60s sometime. It was > on SR Ave., West side, between Sebastopol Ave. and Maple Ave. In > early '64 they even opened up a Jag/Cobra/MG dealership annex... it > was North of town back then.... now that location is in town near the > K-Mart. .... NW corner of Cleveland Ave and Industrial Dr. > > If you want to include ALL Brit cars ya hafta include Paul Felton on > Van Ness in SF.... Rovers and Land Rovers. There were also Rover > dealers in Berkeley, El Cerrito and down the Peninsula. Just in the > idle curiosity category, I think it's interesting that the first Land > Rover dealership west of the Rockies was in Willets. It was Carbrey > Motors and they handled Ramblers, International and Caterpillar as well. > > Gerry > Glen Ellen > > > On Mar 21, 2009, at 5:34 PM, don wrote: > > Robin, >> Thanks for jarring my memory! Now, I remember Washburn on the east >> side of SR Avenue near Petaluma Hill Road. It was a long building >> and the showroom was at the street and the service bays were in line >> behind it. >> And I remember going to EF Sweeney in San Rafael now. One memorable >> event was buying parts there for an MG. There was a young woman who >> had bought an Austin Marina new at the dealership not long before, >> and she told me the sad story of how everything on the car had >> broken. That was in the early '70s. No wonder the Japanese were >> able to take over the imported car market from the Brits. >> Don >> Calistoga >> > > G. Mugele > mewgull at mugele.net > > *** Nobody roots for Goliath. Wilt Chamberlain > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From don at napanet.net Sat Mar 21 20:24:50 2009 From: don at napanet.net (don) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:24:50 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <34CA9886F8FE4129B7114390F2247438@dell8300> References: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321140158.03442ce8@pop.napanet.net> <34CA9886F8FE4129B7114390F2247438@dell8300> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321184821.034524b0@pop.napanet.net> A bit off the subject, but you can Youtube It's a Beautiful Day and White Bird and listen to their big hit song. They lived on Mt. St. Helena outside of Calistoga back in the early '70s. At 04:54 PM 03/21/2009, you wrote: >Back in 1970 I took my 67 MGB GT into BMC Motors in San Francisco. While >waiting I started talking to another "long hair" who was waiting for his >E-Type to be serviced. I asked him what he did and he said he was a >musician. Turns out he was David Laflamme leader of the 60's acid rock >band "It's a Beautiful Day". It made my day that's for sure. Back then >you never knew who you would run into at BMC Motors. > >And then there's the famous Grace Slick Aston Martin story from the same >BMC Motors. > >Ah memories. > >On another note the Daimler is finally finished and maybe I will join you >on a run once the rain stops. Better yet we should plan a run in Marin my >home territory. > >Steve Plath > >----- Original Message ----- From: "don" >To: "North Bay British Car Club" >Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 3:10 PM >Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > > >>Back in the late '50s through early '70s, British car dealerships could >>be found in most US cities of any size, especially in California. Even >>before I got my first British car in 1965, I loved visiting the showrooms >>to admire the MGs, Triumphs and other British cars. Of course, I would >>always pilfer as many sales brochures as I could hoping to not upset the >>salespeople too much. >> >>I remember the BMC/Jaguar dealer in Napa on Soscol Avenue, which was to >>become Napa Valley Datsun when they dropped the British car line around >>1967. There was a BMC dealer that tried again in Napa shortly after but >>didn't last long. I remember taking my MGA there for repairs in 1968, >>but I don't remember the name of the place. I do remember that it was >>very expensive to pay someone to repair my car, and after that, did most >>of my repairs myself. The name of it might have been Washborn Imports. >> >>In Santa Rosa, there was Ralph Vesper Motors on Santa Rosa Avenue which >>sold Triumphs and British Fords. I remember that dealership, because, as >>I bought parts for my old Anglia and Zodiac (c. 1966, '67), I was >>distracted by the siren's call of the sleek TR4s and Spitfires on display >>in the showroom. I still have a few pieces of the Triumph literature I >>took on visits to Vesper. Car dealers usually left their identification >>by irubber stamping their names and addresses onto the front or back of >>the sales literature. Vesper's name and address sill adorn my old >>Triumph brochures. >> >>The most interesting dealership to visit was always British Motors on Van >>Ness Avenue in San Francisco. They had Jaguar, Rolls Royce and the whole >>BMC line, and the cars they had on display were always of a high calibre. >>This was such a classy place that I always felt underdressed because I >>wasn't wearing a suit and tie. As an extreme British car nut, I was >>thrilled just to purchase parts there. I do have several license plate >>frames from there, which I think are a cool period accessory. >> >>Other dealerships that come to mind are Union Jack (BMC) in Hayward and >>British Motors in San Jose. >> >>Anyone else have any recollections of the British car dealer world in the >>area? >> >>Don Scott >>Calistoga >>1962 MGA Mk II >>1991 Miata BRG >>1973 MGB GT >>1962 TR4 (seeking) >> >>-- >>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - >>Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc mailing list >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >_______________________________________________ >Nobbc mailing list >Nobbc at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - >Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM From splath at comcast.net Sat Mar 21 20:56:05 2009 From: splath at comcast.net (Steve Plath) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:56:05 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area References: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321140158.03442ce8@pop.napanet.net><34CA9886F8FE4129B7114390F2247438@dell8300> <6.0.3.0.1.20090321184821.034524b0@pop.napanet.net> Message-ID: <2DE244BDB0394E319557D62ABC55F1F3@dell8300> Not to worry. I have the whole album on my ipod. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "don" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area >A bit off the subject, but you can Youtube It's a Beautiful Day and White >Bird and listen to their big hit song. They lived on Mt. St. Helena >outside of Calistoga back in the early '70s. > > > > At 04:54 PM 03/21/2009, you wrote: > >>Back in 1970 I took my 67 MGB GT into BMC Motors in San Francisco. While >>waiting I started talking to another "long hair" who was waiting for his >>E-Type to be serviced. I asked him what he did and he said he was a >>musician. Turns out he was David Laflamme leader of the 60's acid rock >>band "It's a Beautiful Day". It made my day that's for sure. Back then >>you never knew who you would run into at BMC Motors. >> >>And then there's the famous Grace Slick Aston Martin story from the same >>BMC Motors. >> >>Ah memories. >> >>On another note the Daimler is finally finished and maybe I will join you >>on a run once the rain stops. Better yet we should plan a run in Marin my >>home territory. >> >>Steve Plath >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "don" >>To: "North Bay British Car Club" >>Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 3:10 PM >>Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area >> >> >>>Back in the late '50s through early '70s, British car dealerships could >>>be found in most US cities of any size, especially in California. Even >>>before I got my first British car in 1965, I loved visiting the showrooms >>>to admire the MGs, Triumphs and other British cars. Of course, I would >>>always pilfer as many sales brochures as I could hoping to not upset the >>>salespeople too much. >>> >>>I remember the BMC/Jaguar dealer in Napa on Soscol Avenue, which was to >>>become Napa Valley Datsun when they dropped the British car line around >>>1967. There was a BMC dealer that tried again in Napa shortly after but >>>didn't last long. I remember taking my MGA there for repairs in 1968, >>>but I don't remember the name of the place. I do remember that it was >>>very expensive to pay someone to repair my car, and after that, did most >>>of my repairs myself. The name of it might have been Washborn Imports. >>> >>>In Santa Rosa, there was Ralph Vesper Motors on Santa Rosa Avenue which >>>sold Triumphs and British Fords. I remember that dealership, because, as >>>I bought parts for my old Anglia and Zodiac (c. 1966, '67), I was >>>distracted by the siren's call of the sleek TR4s and Spitfires on display >>>in the showroom. I still have a few pieces of the Triumph literature I >>>took on visits to Vesper. Car dealers usually left their identification >>>by irubber stamping their names and addresses onto the front or back of >>>the sales literature. Vesper's name and address sill adorn my old >>>Triumph brochures. >>> >>>The most interesting dealership to visit was always British Motors on Van >>>Ness Avenue in San Francisco. They had Jaguar, Rolls Royce and the whole >>>BMC line, and the cars they had on display were always of a high calibre. >>>This was such a classy place that I always felt underdressed because I >>>wasn't wearing a suit and tie. As an extreme British car nut, I was >>>thrilled just to purchase parts there. I do have several license plate >>>frames from there, which I think are a cool period accessory. >>> >>>Other dealerships that come to mind are Union Jack (BMC) in Hayward and >>>British Motors in San Jose. >>> >>>Anyone else have any recollections of the British car dealer world in the >>>area? >>> >>>Don Scott >>>Calistoga >>>1962 MGA Mk II >>>1991 Miata BRG >>>1973 MGB GT >>>1962 TR4 (seeking) >>> >>>-- >>>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - >>>Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Nobbc mailing list >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc mailing list >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> >> >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - >>Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - > Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From zied at redwoodempiremini.com Sat Mar 21 22:39:22 2009 From: zied at redwoodempiremini.com (Peter Ziedrich) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 22:39:22 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <0FA9693B-6C40-4381-8BA4-266E8C32BBC4@sonic.net> References: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321140158.03442ce8@pop.napanet.net> <49C57719.9050101@sonic.net> <95a735e60903211710v65a0f28ycff259217b1a1fd5@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.3.0.1.20090321162700.03453030@pop.napanet.net> <0FA9693B-6C40-4381-8BA4-266E8C32BBC4@sonic.net> Message-ID: <000901c9aab0$8e033270$aa099750$@com> My brother bought his brand new '76 Triumph Spitfire 1500 (trading in his MGC) from Vesper or Washburn Motors (I remember both names), who if remember correctly was on the east side of SR Ave just north of Hwy 12 right across the street from the Lincoln Mercury lot. I was still in High School, but I know my father tried everything to talk him out of buying it and offered to pay the difference to get a TR6. Peter Ziedrich Redwood Empire Mini Enthusiasts zied at redwoodempiremini.com http://redwoodempiremini.com -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of G. Mugele Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:13 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area Hi Don and Robin, I think the place you're describing on SR Ave. was Vesper Motors. I recall a Washburn Motors but I think the Santa Rosa shop only sold used cars. I do recall it in a location near there... maybe they took over that spot after Vesper closed up shop in the 70s G.K. Hardt handled BMC stuff in Santa Rosa into the 60s sometime. It was on SR Ave., West side, between Sebastopol Ave. and Maple Ave. In early '64 they even opened up a Jag/Cobra/MG dealership annex... it was North of town back then.... now that location is in town near the K-Mart. .... NW corner of Cleveland Ave and Industrial Dr. If you want to include ALL Brit cars ya hafta include Paul Felton on Van Ness in SF.... Rovers and Land Rovers. There were also Rover dealers in Berkeley, El Cerrito and down the Peninsula. Just in the idle curiosity category, I think it's interesting that the first Land Rover dealership west of the Rockies was in Willets. It was Carbrey Motors and they handled Ramblers, International and Caterpillar as well. Gerry Glen Ellen On Mar 21, 2009, at 5:34 PM, don wrote: > Robin, > Thanks for jarring my memory! Now, I remember Washburn on the east > side of SR Avenue near Petaluma Hill Road. It was a long building > and the showroom was at the street and the service bays were in line > behind it. > And I remember going to EF Sweeney in San Rafael now. One memorable > event was buying parts there for an MG. There was a young woman who > had bought an Austin Marina new at the dealership not long before, > and she told me the sad story of how everything on the car had > broken. That was in the early '70s. No wonder the Japanese were > able to take over the imported car market from the Brits. > Don > Calistoga G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** Nobody roots for Goliath. Wilt Chamberlain _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc __________ NOD32 3953 (20090321) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com From zied at redwoodempiremini.com Sat Mar 21 22:42:22 2009 From: zied at redwoodempiremini.com (Peter Ziedrich) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 22:42:22 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <0FA9693B-6C40-4381-8BA4-266E8C32BBC4@sonic.net> References: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321140158.03442ce8@pop.napanet.net> <49C57719.9050101@sonic.net> <95a735e60903211710v65a0f28ycff259217b1a1fd5@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.3.0.1.20090321162700.03453030@pop.napanet.net> <0FA9693B-6C40-4381-8BA4-266E8C32BBC4@sonic.net> Message-ID: <000a01c9aab0$f8eb3560$eac1a020$@com> What a little search on the internet does... this should interest a lot of you. http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/Files/DealerBrochure.pdf Peter Ziedrich Redwood Empire Mini Enthusiasts zied at redwoodempiremini.com http://redwoodempiremini.com -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of G. Mugele Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:13 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area Hi Don and Robin, I think the place you're describing on SR Ave. was Vesper Motors. I recall a Washburn Motors but I think the Santa Rosa shop only sold used cars. I do recall it in a location near there... maybe they took over that spot after Vesper closed up shop in the 70s G.K. Hardt handled BMC stuff in Santa Rosa into the 60s sometime. It was on SR Ave., West side, between Sebastopol Ave. and Maple Ave. In early '64 they even opened up a Jag/Cobra/MG dealership annex... it was North of town back then.... now that location is in town near the K-Mart. .... NW corner of Cleveland Ave and Industrial Dr. If you want to include ALL Brit cars ya hafta include Paul Felton on Van Ness in SF.... Rovers and Land Rovers. There were also Rover dealers in Berkeley, El Cerrito and down the Peninsula. Just in the idle curiosity category, I think it's interesting that the first Land Rover dealership west of the Rockies was in Willets. It was Carbrey Motors and they handled Ramblers, International and Caterpillar as well. Gerry Glen Ellen On Mar 21, 2009, at 5:34 PM, don wrote: > Robin, > Thanks for jarring my memory! Now, I remember Washburn on the east > side of SR Avenue near Petaluma Hill Road. It was a long building > and the showroom was at the street and the service bays were in line > behind it. > And I remember going to EF Sweeney in San Rafael now. One memorable > event was buying parts there for an MG. There was a young woman who > had bought an Austin Marina new at the dealership not long before, > and she told me the sad story of how everything on the car had > broken. That was in the early '70s. No wonder the Japanese were > able to take over the imported car market from the Brits. > Don > Calistoga G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** Nobody roots for Goliath. Wilt Chamberlain _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc __________ NOD32 3953 (20090321) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com From zied at redwoodempiremini.com Sat Mar 21 22:47:27 2009 From: zied at redwoodempiremini.com (Peter Ziedrich) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 22:47:27 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <000a01c9aab0$f8eb3560$eac1a020$@com> References: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321140158.03442ce8@pop.napanet.net> <49C57719.9050101@sonic.net> <95a735e60903211710v65a0f28ycff259217b1a1fd5@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.3.0.1.20090321162700.03453030@pop.napanet.net> <0FA9693B-6C40-4381-8BA4-266E8C32BBC4@sonic.net> <000a01c9aab0$f8eb3560$eac1a020$@com> Message-ID: <000b01c9aab1$af8397e0$0e8ac7a0$@com> Both Washburn and Ralph Vesper were a block and a half from each other and both sold new British Leyland Jaguars, Land Rovers, Triumphs, Austins & MGs. Peter Ziedrich Redwood Empire Mini Enthusiasts zied at redwoodempiremini.com http://redwoodempiremini.com -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Ziedrich Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:42 PM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area What a little search on the internet does... this should interest a lot of you. http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/Files/DealerBrochure.pdf Peter Ziedrich Redwood Empire Mini Enthusiasts zied at redwoodempiremini.com http://redwoodempiremini.com -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of G. Mugele Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:13 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area Hi Don and Robin, I think the place you're describing on SR Ave. was Vesper Motors. I recall a Washburn Motors but I think the Santa Rosa shop only sold used cars. I do recall it in a location near there... maybe they took over that spot after Vesper closed up shop in the 70s G.K. Hardt handled BMC stuff in Santa Rosa into the 60s sometime. It was on SR Ave., West side, between Sebastopol Ave. and Maple Ave. In early '64 they even opened up a Jag/Cobra/MG dealership annex... it was North of town back then.... now that location is in town near the K-Mart. .... NW corner of Cleveland Ave and Industrial Dr. If you want to include ALL Brit cars ya hafta include Paul Felton on Van Ness in SF.... Rovers and Land Rovers. There were also Rover dealers in Berkeley, El Cerrito and down the Peninsula. Just in the idle curiosity category, I think it's interesting that the first Land Rover dealership west of the Rockies was in Willets. It was Carbrey Motors and they handled Ramblers, International and Caterpillar as well. Gerry Glen Ellen On Mar 21, 2009, at 5:34 PM, don wrote: > Robin, > Thanks for jarring my memory! Now, I remember Washburn on the east > side of SR Avenue near Petaluma Hill Road. It was a long building > and the showroom was at the street and the service bays were in line > behind it. > And I remember going to EF Sweeney in San Rafael now. One memorable > event was buying parts there for an MG. There was a young woman who > had bought an Austin Marina new at the dealership not long before, > and she told me the sad story of how everything on the car had > broken. That was in the early '70s. No wonder the Japanese were > able to take over the imported car market from the Brits. > Don > Calistoga G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** Nobody roots for Goliath. Wilt Chamberlain _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc __________ NOD32 3953 (20090321) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc __________ NOD32 3953 (20090321) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com From gtwincams at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 04:43:48 2009 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (gtwincams at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:43:48 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area Message-ID: Fantastic thread! I didn't grow up here, so it's great fun hearing these accounts. Gives a nice perspective of time and place, and always a treat to learn more of members' experiences. Cheers, Greg Tatarian Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From liamof at earthlink.net Sun Mar 22 09:07:20 2009 From: liamof at earthlink.net (liamof at earthlink.net) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area Message-ID: <7994542.1237738040851.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I remember British Motors on Van ness quite well. Back in 1980 when I purchased my trusty 57 mga, an old sear's point racer, I would always drive "downtown" and right into the BMC building at the parts counter with my running project, talk to all the "old" guys in white smocks and they really helped me with everything. I was 17 at the time and if it wasn't for their encouragement and great optimistic attitude I am sure I wouldn't still have it. Also being an architecture student I loved the building which was designed, if memeory serves me right, by Bernard Maybeck in the 20's or 30's. Liam O'Flaherty -----Original Message----- >From: Ron Engelhardt >Sent: Mar 21, 2009 7:24 PM >To: North Bay British Car Club >Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > >Well, no direct memory but my car still has the original license plate >frame from Carl Carlson in San Francisco. The original owner was the >fire chief in Sausalito. > >Ron >58 MGA > >don wrote: > >> Back in the late '50s through early '70s, British car dealerships could >> be found in most US cities of any size, especially in California. Even >> before I got my first British car in 1965, I loved visiting the >> showrooms to admire the MGs, Triumphs and other British cars. Of >> course, I would always pilfer as many sales brochures as I could hoping >> to not upset the salespeople too much. >> >> I remember the BMC/Jaguar dealer in Napa on Soscol Avenue, which was to >> become Napa Valley Datsun when they dropped the British car line around >> 1967. There was a BMC dealer that tried again in Napa shortly after but >> didn't last long. I remember taking my MGA there for repairs in 1968, >> but I don't remember the name of the place. I do remember that it was >> very expensive to pay someone to repair my car, and after that, did most >> of my repairs myself. The name of it might have been Washborn Imports. >> >> In Santa Rosa, there was Ralph Vesper Motors on Santa Rosa Avenue which >> sold Triumphs and British Fords. I remember that dealership, because, >> as I bought parts for my old Anglia and Zodiac (c. 1966, '67), I was >> distracted by the siren's call of the sleek TR4s and Spitfires on >> display in the showroom. I still have a few pieces of the Triumph >> literature I took on visits to Vesper. Car dealers usually left their >> identification by irubber stamping their names and addresses onto the >> front or back of the sales literature. Vesper's name and address sill >> adorn my old Triumph brochures. >> >> The most interesting dealership to visit was always British Motors on >> Van Ness Avenue in San Francisco. They had Jaguar, Rolls Royce and the >> whole BMC line, and the cars they had on display were always of a high >> calibre. This was such a classy place that I always felt underdressed >> because I wasn't wearing a suit and tie. As an extreme British car nut, >> I was thrilled just to purchase parts there. I do have several license >> plate frames from there, which I think are a cool period accessory. >> >> Other dealerships that come to mind are Union Jack (BMC) in Hayward and >> British Motors in San Jose. >> >> Anyone else have any recollections of the British car dealer world in >> the area? >> >> Don Scott >> Calistoga >> 1962 MGA Mk II >> 1991 Miata BRG >> 1973 MGB GT >> 1962 TR4 (seeking) >_______________________________________________ >Nobbc mailing list >Nobbc at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 10:15:11 2009 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:15:11 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <000b01c9aab1$af8397e0$0e8ac7a0$@com> References: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321140158.03442ce8@pop.napanet.net> <49C57719.9050101@sonic.net> <95a735e60903211710v65a0f28ycff259217b1a1fd5@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.3.0.1.20090321162700.03453030@pop.napanet.net> <0FA9693B-6C40-4381-8BA4-266E8C32BBC4@sonic.net> <000a01c9aab0$f8eb3560$eac1a020$@com> <000b01c9aab1$af8397e0$0e8ac7a0$@com> Message-ID: <95a735e60903221015h25a8599foee150a84304b82bf@mail.gmail.com> Peter - interesting dealer files. I think Norman Nock's son still repairs Brit cars in Stockton. We had thursday evening technical inspections prior to weekend racing, at Carl Block's in Oakland. Also had the same at Ed Lesley's Motors in Monterey prior to Laguna Seca races. The storehouse of "golden memories" has been stimulated.... On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Peter Ziedrich wrote: > Both Washburn and Ralph Vesper were a block and a half from each other and > both sold new British Leyland Jaguars, Land Rovers, Triumphs, Austins & > MGs. > > > > > Peter Ziedrich > Redwood Empire Mini Enthusiasts > zied at redwoodempiremini.com > http://redwoodempiremini.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Peter Ziedrich > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:42 PM > To: 'North Bay British Car Club' > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > > What a little search on the internet does... this should interest a lot of > you. > > http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/Files/DealerBrochure.pdf > > > Peter Ziedrich > Redwood Empire Mini Enthusiasts > zied at redwoodempiremini.com > http://redwoodempiremini.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of G. Mugele > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:13 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > > Hi Don and Robin, > > I think the place you're describing on SR Ave. was Vesper Motors. I > recall a Washburn Motors but I think the Santa Rosa shop only sold > used cars. I do recall it in a location near there... maybe they > took over that spot after Vesper closed up shop in the 70s G.K. > Hardt handled BMC stuff in Santa Rosa into the 60s sometime. It was > on SR Ave., West side, between Sebastopol Ave. and Maple Ave. In > early '64 they even opened up a Jag/Cobra/MG dealership annex... it > was North of town back then.... now that location is in town near the > K-Mart. .... NW corner of Cleveland Ave and Industrial Dr. > > If you want to include ALL Brit cars ya hafta include Paul Felton on > Van Ness in SF.... Rovers and Land Rovers. There were also Rover > dealers in Berkeley, El Cerrito and down the Peninsula. Just in the > idle curiosity category, I think it's interesting that the first Land > Rover dealership west of the Rockies was in Willets. It was Carbrey > Motors and they handled Ramblers, International and Caterpillar as well. > > Gerry > Glen Ellen > > > On Mar 21, 2009, at 5:34 PM, don wrote: > > > Robin, > > Thanks for jarring my memory! Now, I remember Washburn on the east > > side of SR Avenue near Petaluma Hill Road. It was a long building > > and the showroom was at the street and the service bays were in line > > behind it. > > And I remember going to EF Sweeney in San Rafael now. One memorable > > event was buying parts there for an MG. There was a young woman who > > had bought an Austin Marina new at the dealership not long before, > > and she told me the sad story of how everything on the car had > > broken. That was in the early '70s. No wonder the Japanese were > > able to take over the imported car market from the Brits. > > Don > > Calistoga > > G. Mugele > mewgull at mugele.net > > *** Nobody roots for Goliath. Wilt Chamberlain > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > __________ NOD32 3953 (20090321) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > __________ NOD32 3953 (20090321) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From wbain at sonic.net Sun Mar 22 10:31:40 2009 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:31:40 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <95a735e60903211710v65a0f28ycff259217b1a1fd5@mail.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321140158.03442ce8@pop.napanet.net> <49C57719.9050101@sonic.net> <95a735e60903211710v65a0f28ycff259217b1a1fd5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: My first Morgan (57 +4) came from Bob Cole Imports. I think they sold everything that came from England, and some other countries. My current Morgan left the factory in November 58 and went to Worldwide Imports on Sepulveda in LA. Long gone, although I still have some period magazine ads of theirs. I worked for Brown Motors in San Rafael in the late 70's when they sold Fiat, Lancia, Alfa's. Prior to that they were a BMC dealer and I managed to acquire quite a few Brit parts that were just collecting dust but NOS along with two signs proclaiming "Triumph Service" with the Triumph shield. Shamrock Motors was still functional in the 70's when I lived in Mill Valley. As you say, this is stirring up old memories. Wendell Bain 59 Morgan Plus 4 47 HRG 1100 74 Fiat 124 Spider On Mar 21, 2009, at 5:10 PM, Robin Jackson wrote: > E.F. Sweeney British Cars was in San Anselmo, on the hub; they > moved to San > Rafael on the road near Bermuda Palms. Both businesses are long gone. > There was Shamrock Motors in Mill Valley that dealt Citroen, > Peugeot and > Morgans. I was quite friendly with the Hannon brothers who ran it. > Also in San Rafael was Bud Oden's Marin Motorsports. He was a > dealer for > Triumph and English Ford. Frank Henry had a Morgan dealership in > Berkeley on > Telegraph. He kept the Mogs on an open lot as he had no showroom. > > Bill Breeze sold Lotus 11's from his shop in Sausaleto, near where the > seaplanes are now. Bob Winkelmann had four Winkelmann Formula Ford > dealerships across the country, the home one being in Sausaleto. He > imported > @250 of these open wheelers. > > Larry Albedi (some may know his voice as he still announces at > Sears Point - > it will always be Sears, to me) had various dealerships around the > bay area, > notably Vallejo British Cars. Bob Cole was down on the Peninsula > with has > dealership and there was also a Morgan dealer there, Frank Crane, > who I > raced with. We had quite a Morgan contingent in those days, late > 50's early > 60's, who got welcome support from dealers. Rusty Hyde sold > Triumphs in San > Fran, as I recall. Some of this is a little foggy as you have jolted > memories of quite a long time ago. For that I thank you, Don. By > the way, I > bought my MGA from EF Sweeney in 1957 when I was released from > active duty > with USMC. I traded it soon therafter and bought my first Plus 4 > Moggie from > Frank Henry. > > Phil Washburn, as I recall, had a dealership on Santa Rosa Ave. > where the > motor home lot is. I remember him racing at Cotati Raceways when it > was > open. The power behind Brit Mtrs. in San Fran was Schell Quavale > (I know my > spelling is off, but close phonetically!) While I still had my shop > in Santa > Rosa he visited. Well in his 80's he still went to work. I believe > Carlson > was exclusevely VW Porsche. Your A, Ron may have been a trade in. > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Ron Engelhardt > wrote: > >> Well, no direct memory but my car still has the original license >> plate >> frame from Carl Carlson in San Francisco. The original owner was >> the fire >> chief in Sausalito. >> >> Ron >> 58 MGA >> >> don wrote: >> >> Back in the late '50s through early '70s, British car dealerships >> could be >>> found in most US cities of any size, especially in California. >>> Even before >>> I got my first British car in 1965, I loved visiting the >>> showrooms to admire >>> the MGs, Triumphs and other British cars. Of course, I would >>> always pilfer >>> as many sales brochures as I could hoping to not upset the >>> salespeople too >>> much. >>> >>> I remember the BMC/Jaguar dealer in Napa on Soscol Avenue, which >>> was to >>> become Napa Valley Datsun when they dropped the British car line >>> around >>> 1967. There was a BMC dealer that tried again in Napa shortly >>> after but >>> didn't last long. I remember taking my MGA there for repairs in >>> 1968, but I >>> don't remember the name of the place. I do remember that it was >>> very >>> expensive to pay someone to repair my car, and after that, did >>> most of my >>> repairs myself. The name of it might have been Washborn Imports. >>> >>> In Santa Rosa, there was Ralph Vesper Motors on Santa Rosa Avenue >>> which >>> sold Triumphs and British Fords. I remember that dealership, >>> because, as I >>> bought parts for my old Anglia and Zodiac (c. 1966, '67), I was >>> distracted >>> by the siren's call of the sleek TR4s and Spitfires on display in >>> the >>> showroom. I still have a few pieces of the Triumph literature I >>> took on >>> visits to Vesper. Car dealers usually left their identification >>> by irubber >>> stamping their names and addresses onto the front or back of the >>> sales >>> literature. Vesper's name and address sill adorn my old Triumph >>> brochures. >>> >>> The most interesting dealership to visit was always British >>> Motors on Van >>> Ness Avenue in San Francisco. They had Jaguar, Rolls Royce and >>> the whole >>> BMC line, and the cars they had on display were always of a high >>> calibre. >>> This was such a classy place that I always felt underdressed >>> because I >>> wasn't wearing a suit and tie. As an extreme British car nut, I was >>> thrilled just to purchase parts there. I do have several license >>> plate >>> frames from there, which I think are a cool period accessory. >>> >>> Other dealerships that come to mind are Union Jack (BMC) in >>> Hayward and >>> British Motors in San Jose. >>> >>> Anyone else have any recollections of the British car dealer >>> world in the >>> area? >>> >>> Don Scott >>> Calistoga >>> 1962 MGA Mk II >>> 1991 Miata BRG >>> 1973 MGB GT >>> 1962 TR4 (seeking) >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 10:48:10 2009 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:48:10 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: References: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321140158.03442ce8@pop.napanet.net> <49C57719.9050101@sonic.net> <95a735e60903211710v65a0f28ycff259217b1a1fd5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <95a735e60903221048o54560fa6w767f1a97730739d5@mail.gmail.com> Wendell - we must have crossed paths at some point. You probably remember Mauricio Gamboa who had a shop in the Canal area of San Rafael. I attended his funeral yesterday in Olema along with Bob Winkelmann and and Eddie Marshal, representing the old racer contingent. He was an Italian car specialist, but also ran race cars with Eddie Marshall driving. First they ran a Super Seven, BMC Fr Jr, and then an Alexis that Mauricio updated to Formula B. Eddie won more consecutive races in that car (13) than any other Alexis driver wordwide, including a Gran Prix in Mexico. I only beat Eddie in my Lotus 22 (former Nate Borgeault Nick Reynolds car) when "Fast Eddie" made a mistake. One time he tried to pass me on the outside going into turn 1 at Cotati and went airborn over the escape road haybales! Back to Mauricio, I had him working at my shop in Santa Rosa for about a year. He commuted from his home in Inverness where he lived in nature with racoons and skunks as house guests. A kind, loving man, he contributed greatly to North Bay sports car interests. On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 10:31 AM, wendell bain wrote: > My first Morgan (57 +4) came from Bob Cole Imports. I think they sold > everything > that came from England, and some other countries. My current Morgan > left the factory in November 58 and went to Worldwide Imports on Sepulveda > in LA. Long gone, although I still have some period magazine ads of theirs. > I worked for Brown Motors in San Rafael in the late 70's when they sold > Fiat, > Lancia, Alfa's. Prior to that they were a BMC dealer and I managed to > acquire > quite a few Brit parts that were just collecting dust but NOS along with > two > signs proclaiming "Triumph Service" with the Triumph shield. > Shamrock Motors was still functional in the 70's when I lived in Mill > Valley. > As you say, this is stirring up old memories. > > Wendell Bain > 59 Morgan Plus 4 > 47 HRG 1100 > 74 Fiat 124 Spider > > > On Mar 21, 2009, at 5:10 PM, Robin Jackson wrote: > > E.F. Sweeney British Cars was in San Anselmo, on the hub; they moved to San >> Rafael on the road near Bermuda Palms. Both businesses are long gone. >> There was Shamrock Motors in Mill Valley that dealt Citroen, Peugeot and >> Morgans. I was quite friendly with the Hannon brothers who ran it. >> Also in San Rafael was Bud Oden's Marin Motorsports. He was a dealer for >> Triumph and English Ford. Frank Henry had a Morgan dealership in Berkeley >> on >> Telegraph. He kept the Mogs on an open lot as he had no showroom. >> >> Bill Breeze sold Lotus 11's from his shop in Sausaleto, near where the >> seaplanes are now. Bob Winkelmann had four Winkelmann Formula Ford >> dealerships across the country, the home one being in Sausaleto. He >> imported >> @250 of these open wheelers. >> >> Larry Albedi (some may know his voice as he still announces at Sears Point >> - >> it will always be Sears, to me) had various dealerships around the bay >> area, >> notably Vallejo British Cars. Bob Cole was down on the Peninsula with has >> dealership and there was also a Morgan dealer there, Frank Crane, who I >> raced with. We had quite a Morgan contingent in those days, late 50's >> early >> 60's, who got welcome support from dealers. Rusty Hyde sold Triumphs in >> San >> Fran, as I recall. Some of this is a little foggy as you have jolted >> memories of quite a long time ago. For that I thank you, Don. By the way, >> I >> bought my MGA from EF Sweeney in 1957 when I was released from active duty >> with USMC. I traded it soon therafter and bought my first Plus 4 Moggie >> from >> Frank Henry. >> >> Phil Washburn, as I recall, had a dealership on Santa Rosa Ave. where the >> motor home lot is. I remember him racing at Cotati Raceways when it was >> open. The power behind Brit Mtrs. in San Fran was Schell Quavale (I know >> my >> spelling is off, but close phonetically!) While I still had my shop in >> Santa >> Rosa he visited. Well in his 80's he still went to work. I believe Carlson >> was exclusevely VW Porsche. Your A, Ron may have been a trade in. >> >> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: >> >> Well, no direct memory but my car still has the original license plate >>> frame from Carl Carlson in San Francisco. The original owner was the fire >>> chief in Sausalito. >>> >>> Ron >>> 58 MGA >>> >>> don wrote: >>> >>> Back in the late '50s through early '70s, British car dealerships could >>> be >>> >>>> found in most US cities of any size, especially in California. Even >>>> before >>>> I got my first British car in 1965, I loved visiting the showrooms to >>>> admire >>>> the MGs, Triumphs and other British cars. Of course, I would always >>>> pilfer >>>> as many sales brochures as I could hoping to not upset the salespeople >>>> too >>>> much. >>>> >>>> I remember the BMC/Jaguar dealer in Napa on Soscol Avenue, which was to >>>> become Napa Valley Datsun when they dropped the British car line around >>>> 1967. There was a BMC dealer that tried again in Napa shortly after but >>>> didn't last long. I remember taking my MGA there for repairs in 1968, >>>> but I >>>> don't remember the name of the place. I do remember that it was very >>>> expensive to pay someone to repair my car, and after that, did most of >>>> my >>>> repairs myself. The name of it might have been Washborn Imports. >>>> >>>> In Santa Rosa, there was Ralph Vesper Motors on Santa Rosa Avenue which >>>> sold Triumphs and British Fords. I remember that dealership, because, >>>> as I >>>> bought parts for my old Anglia and Zodiac (c. 1966, '67), I was >>>> distracted >>>> by the siren's call of the sleek TR4s and Spitfires on display in the >>>> showroom. I still have a few pieces of the Triumph literature I took on >>>> visits to Vesper. Car dealers usually left their identification by >>>> irubber >>>> stamping their names and addresses onto the front or back of the sales >>>> literature. Vesper's name and address sill adorn my old Triumph >>>> brochures. >>>> >>>> The most interesting dealership to visit was always British Motors on >>>> Van >>>> Ness Avenue in San Francisco. They had Jaguar, Rolls Royce and the >>>> whole >>>> BMC line, and the cars they had on display were always of a high >>>> calibre. >>>> This was such a classy place that I always felt underdressed because I >>>> wasn't wearing a suit and tie. As an extreme British car nut, I was >>>> thrilled just to purchase parts there. I do have several license plate >>>> frames from there, which I think are a cool period accessory. >>>> >>>> Other dealerships that come to mind are Union Jack (BMC) in Hayward and >>>> British Motors in San Jose. >>>> >>>> Anyone else have any recollections of the British car dealer world in >>>> the >>>> area? >>>> >>>> Don Scott >>>> Calistoga >>>> 1962 MGA Mk II >>>> 1991 Miata BRG >>>> 1973 MGB GT >>>> 1962 TR4 (seeking) >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sarto477 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 22 11:06:19 2009 From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <95a735e60903221015h25a8599foee150a84304b82bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5029.59618.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi all, I'll add a little history on my part of the dealer thing. After returning from the VN conflict in 67 and seeing, in Hong Kong, a Honda 600 and that stirred my interest in sport cars. Back in the USA, I decided on a Triumph Spitfire and Vesper did not have any in stock and I purchased my 66 spitfire from a dealer in Oakland and "Block" ring a bell and I'll have to look up the receipt to confirm who it actually was. I then had my wheel bearings replaced at Vesper way too many times. Sold it in 1972 through Vesper and they were still in business then. For the music long hairs, etc. I was the road manager for Steppenwolf and for short time, 3 Dog Night, down in Beverly Hills. And was involved in producing 390 concerts throughout the USA and Canada, out of Santa Rosa and later Oregon. Most all groups you can think of from 1968 thru 1972 we produced. Too many to list. Talk about jogging memories!!!--- of sport cars and music, WOW! Seeing "Easy Rider" before they picked Steppenwolf's music. I have not thought about this for many many years. 8 years ago, trying to catch the thrills of my original 66 spit I restored a 70 spit and added a 5 speed and leather Miata seats and much much more only to sell it for my 1966 Lotus Elan coupe. Lets keep the nostalgia going. Sarto --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Robin Jackson wrote: > From: Robin Jackson > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 10:15 AM > Peter - interesting dealer files. I think Norman Nock's > son still repairs > Brit cars in Stockton. We had thursday evening technical > inspections prior > to weekend racing, at Carl Block's in Oakland. Also had > the same at Ed > Lesley's Motors in Monterey prior to Laguna Seca races. > The storehouse of > "golden memories" has been stimulated.... > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Peter Ziedrich > > wrote: > > > Both Washburn and Ralph Vesper were a block and a half > from each other and > > both sold new British Leyland Jaguars, Land Rovers, > Triumphs, Austins & > > MGs. > > > > > > > > > > Peter Ziedrich > > Redwood Empire Mini Enthusiasts > > zied at redwoodempiremini.com > > http://redwoodempiremini.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > On > > Behalf Of Peter Ziedrich > > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:42 PM > > To: 'North Bay British Car Club' > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the > area > > > > What a little search on the internet does... this > should interest a lot of > > you. > > > > > http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/Files/DealerBrochure.pdf > > > > > > Peter Ziedrich > > Redwood Empire Mini Enthusiasts > > zied at redwoodempiremini.com > > http://redwoodempiremini.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > On > > Behalf Of G. Mugele > > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:13 PM > > To: North Bay British Car Club > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the > area > > > > Hi Don and Robin, > > > > I think the place you're describing on SR Ave. was > Vesper Motors. I > > recall a Washburn Motors but I think the Santa Rosa > shop only sold > > used cars. I do recall it in a location near > there... maybe they > > took over that spot after Vesper closed up shop in the > 70s G.K. > > Hardt handled BMC stuff in Santa Rosa into the 60s > sometime. It was > > on SR Ave., West side, between Sebastopol Ave. and > Maple Ave. In > > early '64 they even opened up a Jag/Cobra/MG > dealership annex... it > > was North of town back then.... now that location is > in town near the > > K-Mart. .... NW corner of Cleveland Ave and Industrial > Dr. > > > > If you want to include ALL Brit cars ya hafta include > Paul Felton on > > Van Ness in SF.... Rovers and Land Rovers. There were > also Rover > > dealers in Berkeley, El Cerrito and down the > Peninsula. Just in the > > idle curiosity category, I think it's interesting > that the first Land > > Rover dealership west of the Rockies was in Willets. > It was Carbrey > > Motors and they handled Ramblers, International and > Caterpillar as well. > > > > Gerry > > Glen Ellen > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2009, at 5:34 PM, don wrote: > > > > > Robin, > > > Thanks for jarring my memory! Now, I remember > Washburn on the east > > > side of SR Avenue near Petaluma Hill Road. It > was a long building > > > and the showroom was at the street and the > service bays were in line > > > behind it. > > > And I remember going to EF Sweeney in San Rafael > now. One memorable > > > event was buying parts there for an MG. There > was a young woman who > > > had bought an Austin Marina new at the dealership > not long before, > > > and she told me the sad story of how everything > on the car had > > > broken. That was in the early '70s. No > wonder the Japanese were > > > able to take over the imported car market from > the Brits. > > > Don > > > Calistoga > > > > G. Mugele > > mewgull at mugele.net > > > > *** Nobody roots for Goliath. Wilt Chamberlain > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > __________ NOD32 3953 (20090321) Information > __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > __________ NOD32 3953 (20090321) Information > __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of DSC00294.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of DSC00104.JPG] From sarto477 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 22 11:19:08 2009 From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <5029.59618.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <19446.97760.qm@web50801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi again, I see the attached photos got removed of my spitfire. But they can be seen on my knockoff spinner tool web site, http://knockoffspinnertool.com/ Is there a way to attach pictures to NOBBC? Sarto --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Sarto Rocheleau wrote: > From: Sarto Rocheleau > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 11:06 AM > Hi all, I'll add a little history on my part of the > dealer thing. After returning from the VN conflict in 67 > and seeing, in Hong Kong, a Honda 600 and that stirred my > interest in sport cars. Back in the USA, I decided on a > Triumph Spitfire and Vesper did not have any in stock and I > purchased my 66 spitfire from a dealer in Oakland and > "Block" ring a bell and I'll have to look up > the receipt to confirm who it actually was. I then had my > wheel bearings replaced at Vesper way too many times. Sold > it in 1972 through Vesper and they were still in business > then. > For the music long hairs, etc. I was the road manager for > Steppenwolf and for short time, 3 Dog Night, down in Beverly > Hills. And was involved in producing 390 concerts > throughout the USA and Canada, out of Santa Rosa and later > Oregon. Most all groups you can think of from 1968 thru > 1972 we produced. Too many to list. Talk about jogging > memories!!!--- of sport cars and music, WOW! Seeing > "Easy Rider" before they picked Steppenwolf's > music. I have not thought about this for many many years. > 8 years ago, trying to catch the thrills of my original 66 > spit I restored a 70 spit and added a 5 speed and leather > Miata seats and much much more only to sell it for my 1966 > Lotus Elan coupe. Lets keep the nostalgia going. > > Sarto > > > --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Robin Jackson > wrote: > > > From: Robin Jackson > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the > area > > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > > > Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 10:15 AM > > Peter - interesting dealer files. I think Norman > Nock's > > son still repairs > > Brit cars in Stockton. We had thursday evening > technical > > inspections prior > > to weekend racing, at Carl Block's in Oakland. > Also had > > the same at Ed > > Lesley's Motors in Monterey prior to Laguna Seca > races. > > The storehouse of > > "golden memories" has been stimulated.... > > > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Peter Ziedrich > > > > wrote: > > > > > Both Washburn and Ralph Vesper were a block and a > half > > from each other and > > > both sold new British Leyland Jaguars, Land > Rovers, > > Triumphs, Austins & > > > MGs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Ziedrich > > > Redwood Empire Mini Enthusiasts > > > zied at redwoodempiremini.com > > > http://redwoodempiremini.com > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > > On > > > Behalf Of Peter Ziedrich > > > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:42 PM > > > To: 'North Bay British Car Club' > > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in > the > > area > > > > > > What a little search on the internet does... this > > should interest a lot of > > > you. > > > > > > > > > http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/Files/DealerBrochure.pdf > > > > > > > > > Peter Ziedrich > > > Redwood Empire Mini Enthusiasts > > > zied at redwoodempiremini.com > > > http://redwoodempiremini.com > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > > On > > > Behalf Of G. Mugele > > > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:13 PM > > > To: North Bay British Car Club > > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in > the > > area > > > > > > Hi Don and Robin, > > > > > > I think the place you're describing on SR > Ave. was > > Vesper Motors. I > > > recall a Washburn Motors but I think the Santa > Rosa > > shop only sold > > > used cars. I do recall it in a location near > > there... maybe they > > > took over that spot after Vesper closed up shop > in the > > 70s G.K. > > > Hardt handled BMC stuff in Santa Rosa into the > 60s > > sometime. It was > > > on SR Ave., West side, between Sebastopol Ave. > and > > Maple Ave. In > > > early '64 they even opened up a Jag/Cobra/MG > > dealership annex... it > > > was North of town back then.... now that location > is > > in town near the > > > K-Mart. .... NW corner of Cleveland Ave and > Industrial > > Dr. > > > > > > If you want to include ALL Brit cars ya hafta > include > > Paul Felton on > > > Van Ness in SF.... Rovers and Land Rovers. There > were > > also Rover > > > dealers in Berkeley, El Cerrito and down the > > Peninsula. Just in the > > > idle curiosity category, I think it's > interesting > > that the first Land > > > Rover dealership west of the Rockies was in > Willets. > > It was Carbrey > > > Motors and they handled Ramblers, International > and > > Caterpillar as well. > > > > > > Gerry > > > Glen Ellen > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2009, at 5:34 PM, don wrote: > > > > > > > Robin, > > > > Thanks for jarring my memory! Now, I > remember > > Washburn on the east > > > > side of SR Avenue near Petaluma Hill Road. > It > > was a long building > > > > and the showroom was at the street and the > > service bays were in line > > > > behind it. > > > > And I remember going to EF Sweeney in San > Rafael > > now. One memorable > > > > event was buying parts there for an MG. > There > > was a young woman who > > > > had bought an Austin Marina new at the > dealership > > not long before, > > > > and she told me the sad story of how > everything > > on the car had > > > > broken. That was in the early '70s. No > > wonder the Japanese were > > > > able to take over the imported car market > from > > the Brits. > > > > Don > > > > Calistoga > > > > > > G. Mugele > > > mewgull at mugele.net > > > > > > *** Nobody roots for Goliath. Wilt Chamberlain > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > > > __________ NOD32 3953 (20090321) Information > > __________ > > > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus > system. > > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > > > __________ NOD32 3953 (20090321) Information > > __________ > > > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus > system. > > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg > which had a name of DSC00294.JPG] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg > which had a name of DSC00104.JPG] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Sun Mar 22 11:53:44 2009 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:53:44 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <19446.97760.qm@web50801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <19446.97760.qm@web50801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49C68938.5080500@sonic.net> The list strips off attachments and HTML but you can send pics to Tcherek for posting on the website. Ron 58 MGA Sarto Rocheleau wrote: > Hi again, I see the attached photos got removed of my spitfire. But they can be seen on my knockoff spinner tool web site, http://knockoffspinnertool.com/ > Is there a way to attach pictures to NOBBC? > > Sarto > > > --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Sarto Rocheleau wrote: > > >>From: Sarto Rocheleau >>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area >>To: "North Bay British Car Club" >>Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 11:06 AM >>Hi all, I'll add a little history on my part of the >>dealer thing. After returning from the VN conflict in 67 >>and seeing, in Hong Kong, a Honda 600 and that stirred my >>interest in sport cars. Back in the USA, I decided on a >>Triumph Spitfire and Vesper did not have any in stock and I >>purchased my 66 spitfire from a dealer in Oakland and >>"Block" ring a bell and I'll have to look up >>the receipt to confirm who it actually was. I then had my >>wheel bearings replaced at Vesper way too many times. Sold >>it in 1972 through Vesper and they were still in business >>then. >>For the music long hairs, etc. I was the road manager for >>Steppenwolf and for short time, 3 Dog Night, down in Beverly >>Hills. And was involved in producing 390 concerts >>throughout the USA and Canada, out of Santa Rosa and later >>Oregon. Most all groups you can think of from 1968 thru >>1972 we produced. Too many to list. Talk about jogging >>memories!!!--- of sport cars and music, WOW! Seeing >>"Easy Rider" before they picked Steppenwolf's >>music. I have not thought about this for many many years. >>8 years ago, trying to catch the thrills of my original 66 >>spit I restored a 70 spit and added a 5 speed and leather >>Miata seats and much much more only to sell it for my 1966 >>Lotus Elan coupe. Lets keep the nostalgia going. >> >>Sarto >> >> >>--- On Sun, 3/22/09, Robin Jackson >> wrote: >> >> >>>From: Robin Jackson >>>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the >> >>area >> >>>To: "North Bay British Car Club" >> >> >> >>>Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 10:15 AM >>>Peter - interesting dealer files. I think Norman >> >>Nock's >> >>>son still repairs >>>Brit cars in Stockton. We had thursday evening >> >>technical >> >>>inspections prior >>>to weekend racing, at Carl Block's in Oakland. >> >>Also had >> >>>the same at Ed >>>Lesley's Motors in Monterey prior to Laguna Seca >> >>races. >> >>>The storehouse of >>>"golden memories" has been stimulated.... >>> >>>On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Peter Ziedrich >>>>> >>>>wrote: >>> >>>>Both Washburn and Ralph Vesper were a block and a >> >>half >> >>>from each other and >>> >>>>both sold new British Leyland Jaguars, Land >> >>Rovers, >> >>>Triumphs, Austins & >>> >>>>MGs. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Peter Ziedrich >>>>Redwood Empire Mini Enthusiasts >>>>zied at redwoodempiremini.com >>>>http://redwoodempiremini.com >>>> >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >>> >>>[mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>> >>>>On >>>> Behalf Of Peter Ziedrich >>>>Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:42 PM >>>>To: 'North Bay British Car Club' >>>>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in >> >>the >> >>>area >>> >>>>What a little search on the internet does... this >>> >>>should interest a lot of >>> >>>>you. >>>> >>>> >>> >>http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/Files/DealerBrochure.pdf >> >>>> >>>>Peter Ziedrich >>>>Redwood Empire Mini Enthusiasts >>>>zied at redwoodempiremini.com >>>>http://redwoodempiremini.com >>>> >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >>> >>>[mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>> >>>>On >>>>Behalf Of G. Mugele >>>>Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:13 PM >>>>To: North Bay British Car Club >>>>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in >> >>the >> >>>area >>> >>>>Hi Don and Robin, >>>> >>>>I think the place you're describing on SR >> >>Ave. was >> >>>Vesper Motors. I >>> >>>>recall a Washburn Motors but I think the Santa >> >>Rosa >> >>>shop only sold >>> >>>>used cars. I do recall it in a location near >>> >>>there... maybe they >>> >>>>took over that spot after Vesper closed up shop >> >>in the >> >>>70s G.K. >>> >>>>Hardt handled BMC stuff in Santa Rosa into the >> >>60s >> >>>sometime. It was >>> >>>>on SR Ave., West side, between Sebastopol Ave. >> >>and >> >>>Maple Ave. In >>> >>>>early '64 they even opened up a Jag/Cobra/MG >>> >>>dealership annex... it >>> >>>>was North of town back then.... now that location >> >>is >> >>>in town near the >>> >>>>K-Mart. .... NW corner of Cleveland Ave and >> >>Industrial >> >>>Dr. >>> >>>>If you want to include ALL Brit cars ya hafta >> >>include >> >>>Paul Felton on >>> >>>>Van Ness in SF.... Rovers and Land Rovers. There >> >>were >> >>>also Rover >>> >>>>dealers in Berkeley, El Cerrito and down the >>> >>>Peninsula. Just in the >>> >>>>idle curiosity category, I think it's >> >>interesting >> >>>that the first Land >>> >>>>Rover dealership west of the Rockies was in >> >>Willets. >> >>>It was Carbrey >>> >>>>Motors and they handled Ramblers, International >> >>and >> >>>Caterpillar as well. >>> >>>>Gerry >>>>Glen Ellen >>>> >>>> >>>>On Mar 21, 2009, at 5:34 PM, don wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Robin, >>>>>Thanks for jarring my memory! Now, I >> >>remember >> >>>Washburn on the east >>> >>>>>side of SR Avenue near Petaluma Hill Road. >> >>It >> >>>was a long building >>> >>>>>and the showroom was at the street and the >>> >>>service bays were in line >>> >>>>>behind it. >>>>>And I remember going to EF Sweeney in San >> >>Rafael >> >>>now. One memorable >>> >>>>>event was buying parts there for an MG. >> >>There >> >>>was a young woman who >>> >>>>>had bought an Austin Marina new at the >> >>dealership >> >>>not long before, >>> >>>>>and she told me the sad story of how >> >>everything >> >>>on the car had >>> >>>>>broken. That was in the early '70s. No >>> >>>wonder the Japanese were >>> >>>>>able to take over the imported car market >> >>from >> >>>the Brits. >>> >>>>>Don >>>>>Calistoga >>>> >>>>G. Mugele >>>>mewgull at mugele.net >>>> >>>>*** Nobody roots for Goliath. Wilt Chamberlain >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Nobbc mailing list >>>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>>> >>>>__________ NOD32 3953 (20090321) Information >>> >>>__________ >>> >>>>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus >> >>system. >> >>>>http://www.eset.com >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Nobbc mailing list >>>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>>> >>>>__________ NOD32 3953 (20090321) Information >>> >>>__________ >>> >>>>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus >> >>system. >> >>>>http://www.eset.com >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Nobbc mailing list >>>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Nobbc mailing list >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> >>[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg >>which had a name of DSC00294.JPG] >> >>[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg >>which had a name of DSC00104.JPG] >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc mailing list >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From millerij at mac.com Sun Mar 22 11:50:59 2009 From: millerij at mac.com (Ivan J. Miller) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:50:59 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <19446.97760.qm@web50801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <19446.97760.qm@web50801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <497195DF-8679-46D0-A39C-AAD70770776C@mac.com> Hey Enjoyed the old stories! Love to see more. Pictures. Ivan Calistoga. TR6 1976 Ivan Miller millerij at me.com On Mar 22, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Sarto Rocheleau wrote: > Hi again, I see the attached photos got removed of my spitfire. But > they can be seen on my knockoff spinner tool web site, http://knockoffspinnertool.com/ > Is there a way to attach pictures to NOBBC? > > Sarto > > > --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Sarto Rocheleau wrote: > >> From: Sarto Rocheleau >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area >> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >> Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 11:06 AM >> Hi all, I'll add a little history on my part of the >> dealer thing. After returning from the VN conflict in 67 >> and seeing, in Hong Kong, a Honda 600 and that stirred my >> interest in sport cars. Back in the USA, I decided on a >> Triumph Spitfire and Vesper did not have any in stock and I >> purchased my 66 spitfire from a dealer in Oakland and >> "Block" ring a bell and I'll have to look up >> the receipt to confirm who it actually was. I then had my >> wheel bearings replaced at Vesper way too many times. Sold >> it in 1972 through Vesper and they were still in business >> then. >> For the music long hairs, etc. I was the road manager for >> Steppenwolf and for short time, 3 Dog Night, down in Beverly >> Hills. And was involved in producing 390 concerts >> throughout the USA and Canada, out of Santa Rosa and later >> Oregon. Most all groups you can think of from 1968 thru >> 1972 we produced. Too many to list. Talk about jogging >> memories!!!--- of sport cars and music, WOW! Seeing >> "Easy Rider" before they picked Steppenwolf's >> music. I have not thought about this for many many years. >> 8 years ago, trying to catch the thrills of my original 66 >> spit I restored a 70 spit and added a 5 speed and leather >> Miata seats and much much more only to sell it for my 1966 >> Lotus Elan coupe. Lets keep the nostalgia going. >> >> Sarto >> >> >> --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Robin Jackson >> wrote: >> >>> From: Robin Jackson >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the >> area >>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >> >>> Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 10:15 AM >>> Peter - interesting dealer files. I think Norman >> Nock's >>> son still repairs >>> Brit cars in Stockton. We had thursday evening >> technical >>> inspections prior >>> to weekend racing, at Carl Block's in Oakland. >> Also had >>> the same at Ed >>> Lesley's Motors in Monterey prior to Laguna Seca >> races. >>> The storehouse of >>> "golden memories" has been stimulated.... >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Peter Ziedrich >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Both Washburn and Ralph Vesper were a block and a >> half >>> from each other and >>>> both sold new British Leyland Jaguars, Land >> Rovers, >>> Triumphs, Austins & >>>> MGs. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Peter Ziedrich >>>> Redwood Empire Mini Enthusiasts >>>> zied at redwoodempiremini.com >>>> http://redwoodempiremini.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >>> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Peter Ziedrich >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:42 PM >>>> To: 'North Bay British Car Club' >>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in >> the >>> area >>>> >>>> What a little search on the internet does... this >>> should interest a lot of >>>> you. >>>> >>>> >>> >> http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/Files/DealerBrochure.pdf >>>> >>>> >>>> Peter Ziedrich >>>> Redwood Empire Mini Enthusiasts >>>> zied at redwoodempiremini.com >>>> http://redwoodempiremini.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >>> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of G. Mugele >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:13 PM >>>> To: North Bay British Car Club >>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in >> the >>> area >>>> >>>> Hi Don and Robin, >>>> >>>> I think the place you're describing on SR >> Ave. was >>> Vesper Motors. I >>>> recall a Washburn Motors but I think the Santa >> Rosa >>> shop only sold >>>> used cars. I do recall it in a location near >>> there... maybe they >>>> took over that spot after Vesper closed up shop >> in the >>> 70s G.K. >>>> Hardt handled BMC stuff in Santa Rosa into the >> 60s >>> sometime. It was >>>> on SR Ave., West side, between Sebastopol Ave. >> and >>> Maple Ave. In >>>> early '64 they even opened up a Jag/Cobra/MG >>> dealership annex... it >>>> was North of town back then.... now that location >> is >>> in town near the >>>> K-Mart. .... NW corner of Cleveland Ave and >> Industrial >>> Dr. >>>> >>>> If you want to include ALL Brit cars ya hafta >> include >>> Paul Felton on >>>> Van Ness in SF.... Rovers and Land Rovers. There >> were >>> also Rover >>>> dealers in Berkeley, El Cerrito and down the >>> Peninsula. Just in the >>>> idle curiosity category, I think it's >> interesting >>> that the first Land >>>> Rover dealership west of the Rockies was in >> Willets. >>> It was Carbrey >>>> Motors and they handled Ramblers, International >> and >>> Caterpillar as well. >>>> >>>> Gerry >>>> Glen Ellen >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 21, 2009, at 5:34 PM, don wrote: >>>> >>>>> Robin, >>>>> Thanks for jarring my memory! Now, I >> remember >>> Washburn on the east >>>>> side of SR Avenue near Petaluma Hill Road. >> It >>> was a long building >>>>> and the showroom was at the street and the >>> service bays were in line >>>>> behind it. >>>>> And I remember going to EF Sweeney in San >> Rafael >>> now. One memorable >>>>> event was buying parts there for an MG. >> There >>> was a young woman who >>>>> had bought an Austin Marina new at the >> dealership >>> not long before, >>>>> and she told me the sad story of how >> everything >>> on the car had >>>>> broken. That was in the early '70s. No >>> wonder the Japanese were >>>>> able to take over the imported car market >> from >>> the Brits. >>>>> Don >>>>> Calistoga >>>> >>>> G. Mugele >>>> mewgull at mugele.net >>>> >>>> *** Nobody roots for Goliath. Wilt Chamberlain >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc mailing list >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>>> >>>> __________ NOD32 3953 (20090321) Information >>> __________ >>>> >>>> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus >> system. >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc mailing list >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>>> >>>> __________ NOD32 3953 (20090321) Information >>> __________ >>>> >>>> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus >> system. >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc mailing list >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg >> which had a name of DSC00294.JPG] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg >> which had a name of DSC00104.JPG] >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jamesechristian at yahoo.com Sun Mar 22 12:09:01 2009 From: jamesechristian at yahoo.com (Jim Christian) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <95a735e60903211836t3fb8a48dk7041c981400d0cef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <140520.27615.qm@web58903.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Oh well ... funny, even my cousins (Gene's kids) don't have anything at all from the dealership or shop ... what they gravitated to was boats, which was Gene's pastime! --- On Sat, 3/21/09, Robin Jackson wrote: From: Robin Jackson Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area To: "North Bay British Car Club" Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 6:36 PM James - at one time I had frames from your uncle's dealership. He was a well respected businessman and Brit car guy. Maybe you remember friends of mine who were salesmen: Mick Marston and Jack Dalton. Jack drove #40 MGA in SCCA. Anyway, the frames had a Union Jack on the right corner; very classy! Like so much of my "stuff" from that era, long gone. On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 5:16 PM, wrote: > My uncle was Eugene F. Sweeney who had EFSweeney British on E. Fancisco in > San Rafael. If anybody in the club has a pair of EFSweeney licence plate > frames gathering dust, I'd love to buy 'em! > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin Jackson > > Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:10:23 > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > > > E.F. Sweeney British Cars was in San Anselmo, on the hub; they moved to San > Rafael on the road near Bermuda Palms. Both businesses are long gone. > There was Shamrock Motors in Mill Valley that dealt Citroen, Peugeot and > Morgans. I was quite friendly with the Hannon brothers who ran it. > Also in San Rafael was Bud Oden's Marin Motorsports. He was a dealer for > Triumph and English Ford. Frank Henry had a Morgan dealership in Berkeley > on > Telegraph. He kept the Mogs on an open lot as he had no showroom. > > Bill Breeze sold Lotus 11's from his shop in Sausaleto, near where the > seaplanes are now. Bob Winkelmann had four Winkelmann Formula Ford > dealerships across the country, the home one being in Sausaleto. He > imported > @250 of these open wheelers. > > Larry Albedi (some may know his voice as he still announces at Sears Point > - > it will always be Sears, to me) had various dealerships around the bay > area, > notably Vallejo British Cars. Bob Cole was down on the Peninsula with has > dealership and there was also a Morgan dealer there, Frank Crane, who I > raced with. We had quite a Morgan contingent in those days, late 50's early > 60's, who got welcome support from dealers. Rusty Hyde sold Triumphs in San > Fran, as I recall. Some of this is a little foggy as you have jolted > memories of quite a long time ago. For that I thank you, Don. By the way, > I > bought my MGA from EF Sweeney in 1957 when I was released from active duty > with USMC. I traded it soon therafter and bought my first Plus 4 Moggie > from > Frank Henry. > > Phil Washburn, as I recall, had a dealership on Santa Rosa Ave. where the > motor home lot is. I remember him racing at Cotati Raceways when it was > open. The power behind Brit Mtrs. in San Fran was Schell Quavale (I know > my > spelling is off, but close phonetically!) While I still had my shop in > Santa > Rosa he visited. Well in his 80's he still went to work. I believe Carlson > was exclusevely VW Porsche. Your A, Ron may have been a trade in. > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > > > Well, no direct memory but my car still has the original license plate > > frame from Carl Carlson in San Francisco. The original owner was the fire > > chief in Sausalito. > > > > Ron > > 58 MGA > > > > don wrote: > > > > Back in the late '50s through early '70s, British car dealerships could > be > >> found in most US cities of any size, especially in California. Even > before > >> I got my first British car in 1965, I loved visiting the showrooms to > admire > >> the MGs, Triumphs and other British cars. Of course, I would always > pilfer > >> as many sales brochures as I could hoping to not upset the salespeople > too > >> much. > >> > >> I remember the BMC/Jaguar dealer in Napa on Soscol Avenue, which was to > >> become Napa Valley Datsun when they dropped the British car line around > >> 1967. There was a BMC dealer that tried again in Napa shortly after but > >> didn't last long. I remember taking my MGA there for repairs in 1968, > but I > >> don't remember the name of the place. I do remember that it was very > >> expensive to pay someone to repair my car, and after that, did most of > my > >> repairs myself. The name of it might have been Washborn Imports. > >> > >> In Santa Rosa, there was Ralph Vesper Motors on Santa Rosa Avenue which > >> sold Triumphs and British Fords. I remember that dealership, because, > as I > >> bought parts for my old Anglia and Zodiac (c. 1966, '67), I was > distracted > >> by the siren's call of the sleek TR4s and Spitfires on display in the > >> showroom. I still have a few pieces of the Triumph literature I took on > >> visits to Vesper. Car dealers usually left their identification by > irubber > >> stamping their names and addresses onto the front or back of the sales > >> literature. Vesper's name and address sill adorn my old Triumph > brochures. > >> > >> The most interesting dealership to visit was always British Motors on > Van > >> Ness Avenue in San Francisco. They had Jaguar, Rolls Royce and the > whole > >> BMC line, and the cars they had on display were always of a high > calibre. > >> This was such a classy place that I always felt underdressed because I > >> wasn't wearing a suit and tie. As an extreme British car nut, I was > >> thrilled just to purchase parts there. I do have several license plate > >> frames from there, which I think are a cool period accessory. > >> > >> Other dealerships that come to mind are Union Jack (BMC) in Hayward and > >> British Motors in San Jose. > >> > >> Anyone else have any recollections of the British car dealer world in > the > >> area? > >> > >> Don Scott > >> Calistoga > >> 1962 MGA Mk II > >> 1991 Miata BRG > >> 1973 MGB GT > >> 1962 TR4 (seeking) > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 13:31:50 2009 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:31:50 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <19446.97760.qm@web50801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <5029.59618.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <19446.97760.qm@web50801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <95a735e60903221331r5f605fcdvb2bfea2beb4af974@mail.gmail.com> Sarto - Did you know Steve Wells? When he came home from 'nam(he was airforce FAC) he did most production work at Inn of the Beginning. BTW, welcome home, and thanks. On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Sarto Rocheleau wrote: > Hi again, I see the attached photos got removed of my spitfire. But they > can be seen on my knockoff spinner tool web site, > http://knockoffspinnertool.com/ > Is there a way to attach pictures to NOBBC? > > Sarto > > > --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Sarto Rocheleau wrote: > > > From: Sarto Rocheleau > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > > Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 11:06 AM > > Hi all, I'll add a little history on my part of the > > dealer thing. After returning from the VN conflict in 67 > > and seeing, in Hong Kong, a Honda 600 and that stirred my > > interest in sport cars. Back in the USA, I decided on a > > Triumph Spitfire and Vesper did not have any in stock and I > > purchased my 66 spitfire from a dealer in Oakland and > > "Block" ring a bell and I'll have to look up > > the receipt to confirm who it actually was. I then had my > > wheel bearings replaced at Vesper way too many times. Sold > > it in 1972 through Vesper and they were still in business > > then. > > For the music long hairs, etc. I was the road manager for > > Steppenwolf and for short time, 3 Dog Night, down in Beverly > > Hills. And was involved in producing 390 concerts > > throughout the USA and Canada, out of Santa Rosa and later > > Oregon. Most all groups you can think of from 1968 thru > > 1972 we produced. Too many to list. Talk about jogging > > memories!!!--- of sport cars and music, WOW! Seeing > > "Easy Rider" before they picked Steppenwolf's > > music. I have not thought about this for many many years. > > 8 years ago, trying to catch the thrills of my original 66 > > spit I restored a 70 spit and added a 5 speed and leather > > Miata seats and much much more only to sell it for my 1966 > > Lotus Elan coupe. Lets keep the nostalgia going. > > > > Sarto > > > > > > --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Robin Jackson > > wrote: > > > > > From: Robin Jackson > > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the > > area > > > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > > > > > Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 10:15 AM > > > Peter - interesting dealer files. I think Norman > > Nock's > > > son still repairs > > > Brit cars in Stockton. We had thursday evening > > technical > > > inspections prior > > > to weekend racing, at Carl Block's in Oakland. > > Also had > > > the same at Ed > > > Lesley's Motors in Monterey prior to Laguna Seca > > races. > > > The storehouse of > > > "golden memories" has been stimulated.... > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Peter Ziedrich > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Both Washburn and Ralph Vesper were a block and a > > half > > > from each other and > > > > both sold new British Leyland Jaguars, Land > > Rovers, > > > Triumphs, Austins & > > > > MGs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Ziedrich > > > > Redwood Empire Mini Enthusiasts > > > > zied at redwoodempiremini.com > > > > http://redwoodempiremini.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > > > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > > > On > > > > Behalf Of Peter Ziedrich > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:42 PM > > > > To: 'North Bay British Car Club' > > > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in > > the > > > area > > > > > > > > What a little search on the internet does... this > > > should interest a lot of > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/Files/DealerBrochure.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Ziedrich > > > > Redwood Empire Mini Enthusiasts > > > > zied at redwoodempiremini.com > > > > http://redwoodempiremini.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > > > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > > > On > > > > Behalf Of G. Mugele > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:13 PM > > > > To: North Bay British Car Club > > > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in > > the > > > area > > > > > > > > Hi Don and Robin, > > > > > > > > I think the place you're describing on SR > > Ave. was > > > Vesper Motors. I > > > > recall a Washburn Motors but I think the Santa > > Rosa > > > shop only sold > > > > used cars. I do recall it in a location near > > > there... maybe they > > > > took over that spot after Vesper closed up shop > > in the > > > 70s G.K. > > > > Hardt handled BMC stuff in Santa Rosa into the > > 60s > > > sometime. It was > > > > on SR Ave., West side, between Sebastopol Ave. > > and > > > Maple Ave. In > > > > early '64 they even opened up a Jag/Cobra/MG > > > dealership annex... it > > > > was North of town back then.... now that location > > is > > > in town near the > > > > K-Mart. .... NW corner of Cleveland Ave and > > Industrial > > > Dr. > > > > > > > > If you want to include ALL Brit cars ya hafta > > include > > > Paul Felton on > > > > Van Ness in SF.... Rovers and Land Rovers. There > > were > > > also Rover > > > > dealers in Berkeley, El Cerrito and down the > > > Peninsula. Just in the > > > > idle curiosity category, I think it's > > interesting > > > that the first Land > > > > Rover dealership west of the Rockies was in > > Willets. > > > It was Carbrey > > > > Motors and they handled Ramblers, International > > and > > > Caterpillar as well. > > > > > > > > Gerry > > > > Glen Ellen > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2009, at 5:34 PM, don wrote: > > > > > > > > > Robin, > > > > > Thanks for jarring my memory! Now, I > > remember > > > Washburn on the east > > > > > side of SR Avenue near Petaluma Hill Road. > > It > > > was a long building > > > > > and the showroom was at the street and the > > > service bays were in line > > > > > behind it. > > > > > And I remember going to EF Sweeney in San > > Rafael > > > now. One memorable > > > > > event was buying parts there for an MG. > > There > > > was a young woman who > > > > > had bought an Austin Marina new at the > > dealership > > > not long before, > > > > > and she told me the sad story of how > > everything > > > on the car had > > > > > broken. That was in the early '70s. No > > > wonder the Japanese were > > > > > able to take over the imported car market > > from > > > the Brits. > > > > > Don > > > > > Calistoga > > > > > > > > G. Mugele > > > > mewgull at mugele.net > > > > > > > > *** Nobody roots for Goliath. Wilt Chamberlain > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 3953 (20090321) Information > > > __________ > > > > > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus > > system. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 3953 (20090321) Information > > > __________ > > > > > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus > > system. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg > > which had a name of DSC00294.JPG] > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg > > which had a name of DSC00104.JPG] > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sarto477 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 22 14:28:46 2009 From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <95a735e60903221331r5f605fcdvb2bfea2beb4af974@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <458891.25644.qm@web50801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Robin, I did know a Steve Wells from our old JC, early 60's, days. I was in Army aviation for the tour. I did not stay in touch with the local music community. But I would very much like to hear from Steve if he is the same Steve. I currently live in Cotati and miss the old INN OF THE BEGINNING. Sarto --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Robin Jackson wrote: > From: Robin Jackson > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 1:31 PM > Sarto - Did you know Steve Wells? When he came home from > 'nam(he was > airforce FAC) he did most production work at Inn of the > Beginning. BTW, > welcome home, and thanks. > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Sarto Rocheleau > wrote: > > > Hi again, I see the attached photos got removed of my > spitfire. But they > > can be seen on my knockoff spinner tool web site, > > http://knockoffspinnertool.com/ > > Is there a way to attach pictures to NOBBC? > > > > Sarto > > > > > > --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Sarto Rocheleau > wrote: > > > > > From: Sarto Rocheleau > > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in > the area > > > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > > > > Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 11:06 AM > > > Hi all, I'll add a little history on my part > of the > > > dealer thing. After returning from the VN > conflict in 67 > > > and seeing, in Hong Kong, a Honda 600 and that > stirred my > > > interest in sport cars. Back in the USA, I > decided on a > > > Triumph Spitfire and Vesper did not have any in > stock and I > > > purchased my 66 spitfire from a dealer in Oakland > and > > > "Block" ring a bell and I'll have > to look up > > > the receipt to confirm who it actually was. I > then had my > > > wheel bearings replaced at Vesper way too many > times. Sold > > > it in 1972 through Vesper and they were still in > business > > > then. > > > For the music long hairs, etc. I was the road > manager for > > > Steppenwolf and for short time, 3 Dog Night, down > in Beverly > > > Hills. And was involved in producing 390 > concerts > > > throughout the USA and Canada, out of Santa Rosa > and later > > > Oregon. Most all groups you can think of from > 1968 thru > > > 1972 we produced. Too many to list. Talk about > jogging > > > memories!!!--- of sport cars and music, WOW! > Seeing > > > "Easy Rider" before they picked > Steppenwolf's > > > music. I have not thought about this for many > many years. > > > 8 years ago, trying to catch the thrills of my > original 66 > > > spit I restored a 70 spit and added a 5 speed and > leather > > > Miata seats and much much more only to sell it > for my 1966 > > > Lotus Elan coupe. Lets keep the nostalgia going. > > > > > > Sarto > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Robin Jackson > > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: Robin Jackson > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships > in the > > > area > > > > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > > > > > > > Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 10:15 AM > > > > Peter - interesting dealer files. I think > Norman > > > Nock's > > > > son still repairs > > > > Brit cars in Stockton. We had thursday > evening > > > technical > > > > inspections prior > > > > to weekend racing, at Carl Block's in > Oakland. > > > Also had > > > > the same at Ed > > > > Lesley's Motors in Monterey prior to > Laguna Seca > > > races. > > > > The storehouse of > > > > "golden memories" has been > stimulated.... > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Peter > Ziedrich > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Both Washburn and Ralph Vesper were a > block and a > > > half > > > > from each other and > > > > > both sold new British Leyland Jaguars, > Land > > > Rovers, > > > > Triumphs, Austins & > > > > > MGs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Ziedrich > > > > > Redwood Empire Mini Enthusiasts > > > > > zied at redwoodempiremini.com > > > > > http://redwoodempiremini.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > > > > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > > > > On > > > > > Behalf Of Peter Ziedrich > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:42 PM > > > > > To: 'North Bay British Car > Club' > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car > dealerships in > > > the > > > > area > > > > > > > > > > What a little search on the internet > does... this > > > > should interest a lot of > > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/Files/DealerBrochure.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Ziedrich > > > > > Redwood Empire Mini Enthusiasts > > > > > zied at redwoodempiremini.com > > > > > http://redwoodempiremini.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > > > > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > > > > On > > > > > Behalf Of G. Mugele > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:13 PM > > > > > To: North Bay British Car Club > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car > dealerships in > > > the > > > > area > > > > > > > > > > Hi Don and Robin, > > > > > > > > > > I think the place you're describing > on SR > > > Ave. was > > > > Vesper Motors. I > > > > > recall a Washburn Motors but I think > the Santa > > > Rosa > > > > shop only sold > > > > > used cars. I do recall it in a > location near > > > > there... maybe they > > > > > took over that spot after Vesper closed > up shop > > > in the > > > > 70s G.K. > > > > > Hardt handled BMC stuff in Santa Rosa > into the > > > 60s > > > > sometime. It was > > > > > on SR Ave., West side, between > Sebastopol Ave. > > > and > > > > Maple Ave. In > > > > > early '64 they even opened up a > Jag/Cobra/MG > > > > dealership annex... it > > > > > was North of town back then.... now > that location > > > is > > > > in town near the > > > > > K-Mart. .... NW corner of Cleveland Ave > and > > > Industrial > > > > Dr. > > > > > > > > > > If you want to include ALL Brit cars ya > hafta > > > include > > > > Paul Felton on > > > > > Van Ness in SF.... Rovers and Land > Rovers. There > > > were > > > > also Rover > > > > > dealers in Berkeley, El Cerrito and > down the > > > > Peninsula. Just in the > > > > > idle curiosity category, I think > it's > > > interesting > > > > that the first Land > > > > > Rover dealership west of the Rockies > was in > > > Willets. > > > > It was Carbrey > > > > > Motors and they handled Ramblers, > International > > > and > > > > Caterpillar as well. > > > > > > > > > > Gerry > > > > > Glen Ellen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2009, at 5:34 PM, don wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Robin, > > > > > > Thanks for jarring my memory! > Now, I > > > remember > > > > Washburn on the east > > > > > > side of SR Avenue near Petaluma > Hill Road. > > > It > > > > was a long building > > > > > > and the showroom was at the street > and the > > > > service bays were in line > > > > > > behind it. > > > > > > And I remember going to EF Sweeney > in San > > > Rafael > > > > now. One memorable > > > > > > event was buying parts there for > an MG. > > > There > > > > was a young woman who > > > > > > had bought an Austin Marina new at > the > > > dealership > > > > not long before, > > > > > > and she told me the sad story of > how > > > everything > > > > on the car had > > > > > > broken. That was in the early > '70s. No > > > > wonder the Japanese were > > > > > > able to take over the imported car > market > > > from > > > > the Brits. > > > > > > Don > > > > > > Calistoga > > > > > > > > > > G. Mugele > > > > > mewgull at mugele.net > > > > > > > > > > *** Nobody roots for Goliath. Wilt > Chamberlain > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 3953 (20090321) > Information > > > > __________ > > > > > > > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 > antivirus > > > system. > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 3953 (20090321) > Information > > > > __________ > > > > > > > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 > antivirus > > > system. > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type > image/jpeg > > > which had a name of DSC00294.JPG] > > > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type > image/jpeg > > > which had a name of DSC00104.JPG] > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 14:45:10 2009 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:45:10 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <458891.25644.qm@web50801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <95a735e60903221331r5f605fcdvb2bfea2beb4af974@mail.gmail.com> <458891.25644.qm@web50801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <95a735e60903221445u65542400s85b561c8f6c27f21@mail.gmail.com> I'm sorry to tell you that Steve died suddenly last month. Very tragic, as his daughter and my son are married. 'nam took its toll on him... I spent some time at the old Inn at that time. Steve and I talked about all the groups who played there. He was one of the people who started it. He later became a renowned deep water sailor. I know he attended SRJC and was the person you knew. On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Sarto Rocheleau wrote: > Robin, I did know a Steve Wells from our old JC, early 60's, days. I was > in Army aviation for the tour. I did not stay in touch with the local music > community. But I would very much like to hear from Steve if he is the same > Steve. I currently live in Cotati and miss the old INN OF THE BEGINNING. > > Sarto > > > --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Robin Jackson wrote: > > > From: Robin Jackson > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > > Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 1:31 PM > > Sarto - Did you know Steve Wells? When he came home from > > 'nam(he was > > airforce FAC) he did most production work at Inn of the > > Beginning. BTW, > > welcome home, and thanks. > > > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Sarto Rocheleau > > wrote: > > > > > Hi again, I see the attached photos got removed of my > > spitfire. But they > > > can be seen on my knockoff spinner tool web site, > > > http://knockoffspinnertool.com/ > > > Is there a way to attach pictures to NOBBC? > > > > > > Sarto > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Sarto Rocheleau > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: Sarto Rocheleau > > > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in > > the area > > > > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > > > > > > Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 11:06 AM > > > > Hi all, I'll add a little history on my part > > of the > > > > dealer thing. After returning from the VN > > conflict in 67 > > > > and seeing, in Hong Kong, a Honda 600 and that > > stirred my > > > > interest in sport cars. Back in the USA, I > > decided on a > > > > Triumph Spitfire and Vesper did not have any in > > stock and I > > > > purchased my 66 spitfire from a dealer in Oakland > > and > > > > "Block" ring a bell and I'll have > > to look up > > > > the receipt to confirm who it actually was. I > > then had my > > > > wheel bearings replaced at Vesper way too many > > times. Sold > > > > it in 1972 through Vesper and they were still in > > business > > > > then. > > > > For the music long hairs, etc. I was the road > > manager for > > > > Steppenwolf and for short time, 3 Dog Night, down > > in Beverly > > > > Hills. And was involved in producing 390 > > concerts > > > > throughout the USA and Canada, out of Santa Rosa > > and later > > > > Oregon. Most all groups you can think of from > > 1968 thru > > > > 1972 we produced. Too many to list. Talk about > > jogging > > > > memories!!!--- of sport cars and music, WOW! > > Seeing > > > > "Easy Rider" before they picked > > Steppenwolf's > > > > music. I have not thought about this for many > > many years. > > > > 8 years ago, trying to catch the thrills of my > > original 66 > > > > spit I restored a 70 spit and added a 5 speed and > > leather > > > > Miata seats and much much more only to sell it > > for my 1966 > > > > Lotus Elan coupe. Lets keep the nostalgia going. > > > > > > > > Sarto > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Robin Jackson > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: Robin Jackson > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships > > in the > > > > area > > > > > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > > > > > > > > > Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 10:15 AM > > > > > Peter - interesting dealer files. I think > > Norman > > > > Nock's > > > > > son still repairs > > > > > Brit cars in Stockton. We had thursday > > evening > > > > technical > > > > > inspections prior > > > > > to weekend racing, at Carl Block's in > > Oakland. > > > > Also had > > > > > the same at Ed > > > > > Lesley's Motors in Monterey prior to > > Laguna Seca > > > > races. > > > > > The storehouse of > > > > > "golden memories" has been > > stimulated.... > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Peter > > Ziedrich > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Both Washburn and Ralph Vesper were a > > block and a > > > > half > > > > > from each other and > > > > > > both sold new British Leyland Jaguars, > > Land > > > > Rovers, > > > > > Triumphs, Austins & > > > > > > MGs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Ziedrich > > > > > > Redwood Empire Mini Enthusiasts > > > > > > zied at redwoodempiremini.com > > > > > > http://redwoodempiremini.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > > > > > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > > > > > On > > > > > > Behalf Of Peter Ziedrich > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:42 PM > > > > > > To: 'North Bay British Car > > Club' > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car > > dealerships in > > > > the > > > > > area > > > > > > > > > > > > What a little search on the internet > > does... this > > > > > should interest a lot of > > > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/Files/DealerBrochure.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Ziedrich > > > > > > Redwood Empire Mini Enthusiasts > > > > > > zied at redwoodempiremini.com > > > > > > http://redwoodempiremini.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > > > > > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > > > > > On > > > > > > Behalf Of G. Mugele > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:13 PM > > > > > > To: North Bay British Car Club > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car > > dealerships in > > > > the > > > > > area > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Don and Robin, > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the place you're describing > > on SR > > > > Ave. was > > > > > Vesper Motors. I > > > > > > recall a Washburn Motors but I think > > the Santa > > > > Rosa > > > > > shop only sold > > > > > > used cars. I do recall it in a > > location near > > > > > there... maybe they > > > > > > took over that spot after Vesper closed > > up shop > > > > in the > > > > > 70s G.K. > > > > > > Hardt handled BMC stuff in Santa Rosa > > into the > > > > 60s > > > > > sometime. It was > > > > > > on SR Ave., West side, between > > Sebastopol Ave. > > > > and > > > > > Maple Ave. In > > > > > > early '64 they even opened up a > > Jag/Cobra/MG > > > > > dealership annex... it > > > > > > was North of town back then.... now > > that location > > > > is > > > > > in town near the > > > > > > K-Mart. .... NW corner of Cleveland Ave > > and > > > > Industrial > > > > > Dr. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you want to include ALL Brit cars ya > > hafta > > > > include > > > > > Paul Felton on > > > > > > Van Ness in SF.... Rovers and Land > > Rovers. There > > > > were > > > > > also Rover > > > > > > dealers in Berkeley, El Cerrito and > > down the > > > > > Peninsula. Just in the > > > > > > idle curiosity category, I think > > it's > > > > interesting > > > > > that the first Land > > > > > > Rover dealership west of the Rockies > > was in > > > > Willets. > > > > > It was Carbrey > > > > > > Motors and they handled Ramblers, > > International > > > > and > > > > > Caterpillar as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gerry > > > > > > Glen Ellen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2009, at 5:34 PM, don wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robin, > > > > > > > Thanks for jarring my memory! > > Now, I > > > > remember > > > > > Washburn on the east > > > > > > > side of SR Avenue near Petaluma > > Hill Road. > > > > It > > > > > was a long building > > > > > > > and the showroom was at the street > > and the > > > > > service bays were in line > > > > > > > behind it. > > > > > > > And I remember going to EF Sweeney > > in San > > > > Rafael > > > > > now. One memorable > > > > > > > event was buying parts there for > > an MG. > > > > There > > > > > was a young woman who > > > > > > > had bought an Austin Marina new at > > the > > > > dealership > > > > > not long before, > > > > > > > and she told me the sad story of > > how > > > > everything > > > > > on the car had > > > > > > > broken. That was in the early > > '70s. No > > > > > wonder the Japanese were > > > > > > > able to take over the imported car > > market > > > > from > > > > > the Brits. > > > > > > > Don > > > > > > > Calistoga > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Mugele > > > > > > mewgull at mugele.net > > > > > > > > > > > > *** Nobody roots for Goliath. Wilt > > Chamberlain > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 3953 (20090321) > > Information > > > > > __________ > > > > > > > > > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 > > antivirus > > > > system. > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 3953 (20090321) > > Information > > > > > __________ > > > > > > > > > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 > > antivirus > > > > system. > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type > > image/jpeg > > > > which had a name of DSC00294.JPG] > > > > > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type > > image/jpeg > > > > which had a name of DSC00104.JPG] > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From fawn220 at comcast.net Sun Mar 22 15:38:51 2009 From: fawn220 at comcast.net (John Kenner) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:38:51 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <95a735e60903211710v65a0f28ycff259217b1a1fd5@mail.gmail.com> References: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321140158.03442ce8@pop.napanet.net> <49C57719.9050101@sonic.net> <95a735e60903211710v65a0f28ycff259217b1a1fd5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000e01c9ab3e$fd3a7ac0$f7af7040$@net> Just a little note for mountain bike fans. Someone mentioned Bill Breeze. His son Joe built the first ever mountain bike frames and went on to become quite famous in the bicycle world. I have a Breezer hanging in my barn. Ye Thank for the memories John Kenner -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robin Jackson Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 5:10 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area E.F. Sweeney British Cars was in San Anselmo, on the hub; they moved to San Rafael on the road near Bermuda Palms. Both businesses are long gone. There was Shamrock Motors in Mill Valley that dealt Citroen, Peugeot and Morgans. I was quite friendly with the Hannon brothers who ran it. Also in San Rafael was Bud Oden's Marin Motorsports. He was a dealer for Triumph and English Ford. Frank Henry had a Morgan dealership in Berkeley on Telegraph. He kept the Mogs on an open lot as he had no showroom. Bill Breeze sold Lotus 11's from his shop in Sausaleto, near where the seaplanes are now. Bob Winkelmann had four Winkelmann Formula Ford dealerships across the country, the home one being in Sausaleto. He imported @250 of these open wheelers. Larry Albedi (some may know his voice as he still announces at Sears Point - it will always be Sears, to me) had various dealerships around the bay area, notably Vallejo British Cars. Bob Cole was down on the Peninsula with has dealership and there was also a Morgan dealer there, Frank Crane, who I raced with. We had quite a Morgan contingent in those days, late 50's early 60's, who got welcome support from dealers. Rusty Hyde sold Triumphs in San Fran, as I recall. Some of this is a little foggy as you have jolted memories of quite a long time ago. For that I thank you, Don. By the way, I bought my MGA from EF Sweeney in 1957 when I was released from active duty with USMC. I traded it soon therafter and bought my first Plus 4 Moggie from Frank Henry. Phil Washburn, as I recall, had a dealership on Santa Rosa Ave. where the motor home lot is. I remember him racing at Cotati Raceways when it was open. The power behind Brit Mtrs. in San Fran was Schell Quavale (I know my spelling is off, but close phonetically!) While I still had my shop in Santa Rosa he visited. Well in his 80's he still went to work. I believe Carlson was exclusevely VW Porsche. Your A, Ron may have been a trade in. On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > Well, no direct memory but my car still has the original license plate > frame from Carl Carlson in San Francisco. The original owner was the fire > chief in Sausalito. > > Ron > 58 MGA > > don wrote: > > Back in the late '50s through early '70s, British car dealerships could be >> found in most US cities of any size, especially in California. Even before >> I got my first British car in 1965, I loved visiting the showrooms to admire >> the MGs, Triumphs and other British cars. Of course, I would always pilfer >> as many sales brochures as I could hoping to not upset the salespeople too >> much. >> >> I remember the BMC/Jaguar dealer in Napa on Soscol Avenue, which was to >> become Napa Valley Datsun when they dropped the British car line around >> 1967. There was a BMC dealer that tried again in Napa shortly after but >> didn't last long. I remember taking my MGA there for repairs in 1968, but I >> don't remember the name of the place. I do remember that it was very >> expensive to pay someone to repair my car, and after that, did most of my >> repairs myself. The name of it might have been Washborn Imports. >> >> In Santa Rosa, there was Ralph Vesper Motors on Santa Rosa Avenue which >> sold Triumphs and British Fords. I remember that dealership, because, as I >> bought parts for my old Anglia and Zodiac (c. 1966, '67), I was distracted >> by the siren's call of the sleek TR4s and Spitfires on display in the >> showroom. I still have a few pieces of the Triumph literature I took on >> visits to Vesper. Car dealers usually left their identification by irubber >> stamping their names and addresses onto the front or back of the sales >> literature. Vesper's name and address sill adorn my old Triumph brochures. >> >> The most interesting dealership to visit was always British Motors on Van >> Ness Avenue in San Francisco. They had Jaguar, Rolls Royce and the whole >> BMC line, and the cars they had on display were always of a high calibre. >> This was such a classy place that I always felt underdressed because I >> wasn't wearing a suit and tie. As an extreme British car nut, I was >> thrilled just to purchase parts there. I do have several license plate >> frames from there, which I think are a cool period accessory. >> >> Other dealerships that come to mind are Union Jack (BMC) in Hayward and >> British Motors in San Jose. >> >> Anyone else have any recollections of the British car dealer world in the >> area? >> >> Don Scott >> Calistoga >> 1962 MGA Mk II >> 1991 Miata BRG >> 1973 MGB GT >> 1962 TR4 (seeking) >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 16:14:11 2009 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:14:11 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <000e01c9ab3e$fd3a7ac0$f7af7040$@net> References: <6.0.3.0.1.20090321140158.03442ce8@pop.napanet.net> <49C57719.9050101@sonic.net> <95a735e60903211710v65a0f28ycff259217b1a1fd5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c9ab3e$fd3a7ac0$f7af7040$@net> Message-ID: <95a735e60903221614i4d9fe0e7k356705520f028381@mail.gmail.com> After Bill got out of the race car biz he moved his machine shop to his home in Mill Valley and made telescopes. Some of that must have influenced John. On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 3:38 PM, John Kenner wrote: > Just a little note for mountain bike fans. > Someone mentioned Bill Breeze. > His son Joe built the first ever mountain bike frames and went on to become > quite famous > in the bicycle world. I have a Breezer hanging in my barn. Ye > > Thank for the memories > > John Kenner > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Robin Jackson > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 5:10 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > > E.F. Sweeney British Cars was in San Anselmo, on the hub; they moved to > San > Rafael on the road near Bermuda Palms. Both businesses are long gone. > There was Shamrock Motors in Mill Valley that dealt Citroen, Peugeot and > Morgans. I was quite friendly with the Hannon brothers who ran it. > Also in San Rafael was Bud Oden's Marin Motorsports. He was a dealer for > Triumph and English Ford. Frank Henry had a Morgan dealership in Berkeley > on > Telegraph. He kept the Mogs on an open lot as he had no showroom. > > Bill Breeze sold Lotus 11's from his shop in Sausaleto, near where the > seaplanes are now. Bob Winkelmann had four Winkelmann Formula Ford > dealerships across the country, the home one being in Sausaleto. He > imported > @250 of these open wheelers. > > Larry Albedi (some may know his voice as he still announces at Sears Point > - > it will always be Sears, to me) had various dealerships around the bay > area, > notably Vallejo British Cars. Bob Cole was down on the Peninsula with has > dealership and there was also a Morgan dealer there, Frank Crane, who I > raced with. We had quite a Morgan contingent in those days, late 50's early > 60's, who got welcome support from dealers. Rusty Hyde sold Triumphs in San > Fran, as I recall. Some of this is a little foggy as you have jolted > memories of quite a long time ago. For that I thank you, Don. By the way, > I > bought my MGA from EF Sweeney in 1957 when I was released from active duty > with USMC. I traded it soon therafter and bought my first Plus 4 Moggie > from > Frank Henry. > > Phil Washburn, as I recall, had a dealership on Santa Rosa Ave. where the > motor home lot is. I remember him racing at Cotati Raceways when it was > open. The power behind Brit Mtrs. in San Fran was Schell Quavale (I know > my > spelling is off, but close phonetically!) While I still had my shop in > Santa > Rosa he visited. Well in his 80's he still went to work. I believe Carlson > was exclusevely VW Porsche. Your A, Ron may have been a trade in. > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > > > Well, no direct memory but my car still has the original license plate > > frame from Carl Carlson in San Francisco. The original owner was the fire > > chief in Sausalito. > > > > Ron > > 58 MGA > > > > don wrote: > > > > Back in the late '50s through early '70s, British car dealerships could > be > >> found in most US cities of any size, especially in California. Even > before > >> I got my first British car in 1965, I loved visiting the showrooms to > admire > >> the MGs, Triumphs and other British cars. Of course, I would always > pilfer > >> as many sales brochures as I could hoping to not upset the salespeople > too > >> much. > >> > >> I remember the BMC/Jaguar dealer in Napa on Soscol Avenue, which was to > >> become Napa Valley Datsun when they dropped the British car line around > >> 1967. There was a BMC dealer that tried again in Napa shortly after but > >> didn't last long. I remember taking my MGA there for repairs in 1968, > but I > >> don't remember the name of the place. I do remember that it was very > >> expensive to pay someone to repair my car, and after that, did most of > my > >> repairs myself. The name of it might have been Washborn Imports. > >> > >> In Santa Rosa, there was Ralph Vesper Motors on Santa Rosa Avenue which > >> sold Triumphs and British Fords. I remember that dealership, because, > as > I > >> bought parts for my old Anglia and Zodiac (c. 1966, '67), I was > distracted > >> by the siren's call of the sleek TR4s and Spitfires on display in the > >> showroom. I still have a few pieces of the Triumph literature I took on > >> visits to Vesper. Car dealers usually left their identification by > irubber > >> stamping their names and addresses onto the front or back of the sales > >> literature. Vesper's name and address sill adorn my old Triumph > brochures. > >> > >> The most interesting dealership to visit was always British Motors on > Van > >> Ness Avenue in San Francisco. They had Jaguar, Rolls Royce and the > whole > >> BMC line, and the cars they had on display were always of a high > calibre. > >> This was such a classy place that I always felt underdressed because I > >> wasn't wearing a suit and tie. As an extreme British car nut, I was > >> thrilled just to purchase parts there. I do have several license plate > >> frames from there, which I think are a cool period accessory. > >> > >> Other dealerships that come to mind are Union Jack (BMC) in Hayward and > >> British Motors in San Jose. > >> > >> Anyone else have any recollections of the British car dealer world in > the > >> area? > >> > >> Don Scott > >> Calistoga > >> 1962 MGA Mk II > >> 1991 Miata BRG > >> 1973 MGB GT > >> 1962 TR4 (seeking) > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sarto477 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 22 18:53:28 2009 From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:53:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <95a735e60903221445u65542400s85b561c8f6c27f21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <797804.25784.qm@web50804.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Robin, I am very sorry to hear this. Nam has taken its share of good people. Steve and I would have had a great time with our stories. He was the one who organized and had all of the ideas for whatever crazy stunts we attempted. We did have some fun. I only wish I had been able to contact him earlier. My phone # is 481-6700 if you wouldn't mind talking. Sarto --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Robin Jackson wrote: > From: Robin Jackson > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 2:45 PM > I'm sorry to tell you that Steve died suddenly last > month. Very tragic, as > his daughter and my son are married. 'nam took its toll > on him... > > I spent some time at the old Inn at that time. Steve and I > talked about all > the groups who played there. He was one of the people who > started it. He > later became a renowned deep water sailor. I know he > attended SRJC and was > the person you knew. > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Sarto Rocheleau > wrote: > > > Robin, I did know a Steve Wells from our old JC, early > 60's, days. I was > > in Army aviation for the tour. I did not stay in > touch with the local music > > community. But I would very much like to hear from > Steve if he is the same > > Steve. I currently live in Cotati and miss the old INN > OF THE BEGINNING. > > > > Sarto > > > > > > --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Robin Jackson > wrote: > > > > > From: Robin Jackson > > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in > the area > > > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > > > > Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 1:31 PM > > > Sarto - Did you know Steve Wells? When he came > home from > > > 'nam(he was > > > airforce FAC) he did most production work at Inn > of the > > > Beginning. BTW, > > > welcome home, and thanks. > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Sarto Rocheleau > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi again, I see the attached photos got > removed of my > > > spitfire. But they > > > > can be seen on my knockoff spinner tool web > site, > > > > http://knockoffspinnertool.com/ > > > > Is there a way to attach pictures to NOBBC? > > > > > > > > Sarto > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Sarto Rocheleau > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: Sarto Rocheleau > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car > dealerships in > > > the area > > > > > To: "North Bay British Car > Club" > > > > > > > > Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 11:06 AM > > > > > Hi all, I'll add a little history > on my part > > > of the > > > > > dealer thing. After returning from the > VN > > > conflict in 67 > > > > > and seeing, in Hong Kong, a Honda 600 > and that > > > stirred my > > > > > interest in sport cars. Back in the > USA, I > > > decided on a > > > > > Triumph Spitfire and Vesper did not > have any in > > > stock and I > > > > > purchased my 66 spitfire from a dealer > in Oakland > > > and > > > > > "Block" ring a bell and > I'll have > > > to look up > > > > > the receipt to confirm who it actually > was. I > > > then had my > > > > > wheel bearings replaced at Vesper way > too many > > > times. Sold > > > > > it in 1972 through Vesper and they were > still in > > > business > > > > > then. > > > > > For the music long hairs, etc. I was > the road > > > manager for > > > > > Steppenwolf and for short time, 3 Dog > Night, down > > > in Beverly > > > > > Hills. And was involved in producing > 390 > > > concerts > > > > > throughout the USA and Canada, out of > Santa Rosa > > > and later > > > > > Oregon. Most all groups you can think > of from > > > 1968 thru > > > > > 1972 we produced. Too many to list. > Talk about > > > jogging > > > > > memories!!!--- of sport cars and music, > WOW! > > > Seeing > > > > > "Easy Rider" before they > picked > > > Steppenwolf's > > > > > music. I have not thought about this > for many > > > many years. > > > > > 8 years ago, trying to catch the > thrills of my > > > original 66 > > > > > spit I restored a 70 spit and added a 5 > speed and > > > leather > > > > > Miata seats and much much more only to > sell it > > > for my 1966 > > > > > Lotus Elan coupe. Lets keep the > nostalgia going. > > > > > > > > > > Sarto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Robin Jackson > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > From: Robin Jackson > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car > dealerships > > > in the > > > > > area > > > > > > To: "North Bay British Car > Club" > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, > 10:15 AM > > > > > > Peter - interesting dealer files. > I think > > > Norman > > > > > Nock's > > > > > > son still repairs > > > > > > Brit cars in Stockton. We had > thursday > > > evening > > > > > technical > > > > > > inspections prior > > > > > > to weekend racing, at Carl > Block's in > > > Oakland. > > > > > Also had > > > > > > the same at Ed > > > > > > Lesley's Motors in Monterey > prior to > > > Laguna Seca > > > > > races. > > > > > > The storehouse of > > > > > > "golden memories" has > been > > > stimulated.... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:47 PM, > Peter > > > Ziedrich > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both Washburn and Ralph > Vesper were a > > > block and a > > > > > half > > > > > > from each other and > > > > > > > both sold new British Leyland > Jaguars, > > > Land > > > > > Rovers, > > > > > > Triumphs, Austins & > > > > > > > MGs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Ziedrich > > > > > > > Redwood Empire Mini > Enthusiasts > > > > > > > zied at redwoodempiremini.com > > > > > > > http://redwoodempiremini.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: > nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > > > > > > > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > > > > > > On > > > > > > > Behalf Of Peter Ziedrich > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 21, > 2009 10:42 PM > > > > > > > To: 'North Bay British > Car > > > Club' > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British > car > > > dealerships in > > > > > the > > > > > > area > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a little search on the > internet > > > does... this > > > > > > should interest a lot of > > > > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/Files/DealerBrochure.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Ziedrich > > > > > > > Redwood Empire Mini > Enthusiasts > > > > > > > zied at redwoodempiremini.com > > > > > > > http://redwoodempiremini.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: > nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > > > > > > > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > > > > > > On > > > > > > > Behalf Of G. Mugele > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 21, > 2009 7:13 PM > > > > > > > To: North Bay British Car > Club > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British > car > > > dealerships in > > > > > the > > > > > > area > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Don and Robin, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the place you're > describing > > > on SR > > > > > Ave. was > > > > > > Vesper Motors. I > > > > > > > recall a Washburn Motors but > I think > > > the Santa > > > > > Rosa > > > > > > shop only sold > > > > > > > used cars. I do recall it > in a > > > location near > > > > > > there... maybe they > > > > > > > took over that spot after > Vesper closed > > > up shop > > > > > in the > > > > > > 70s G.K. > > > > > > > Hardt handled BMC stuff in > Santa Rosa > > > into the > > > > > 60s > > > > > > sometime. It was > > > > > > > on SR Ave., West side, > between > > > Sebastopol Ave. > > > > > and > > > > > > Maple Ave. In > > > > > > > early '64 they even > opened up a > > > Jag/Cobra/MG > > > > > > dealership annex... it > > > > > > > was North of town back > then.... now > > > that location > > > > > is > > > > > > in town near the > > > > > > > K-Mart. .... NW corner of > Cleveland Ave > > > and > > > > > Industrial > > > > > > Dr. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you want to include ALL > Brit cars ya > > > hafta > > > > > include > > > > > > Paul Felton on > > > > > > > Van Ness in SF.... Rovers and > Land > > > Rovers. There > > > > > were > > > > > > also Rover > > > > > > > dealers in Berkeley, El > Cerrito and > > > down the > > > > > > Peninsula. Just in the > > > > > > > idle curiosity category, I > think > > > it's > > > > > interesting > > > > > > that the first Land > > > > > > > Rover dealership west of the > Rockies > > > was in > > > > > Willets. > > > > > > It was Carbrey > > > > > > > Motors and they handled > Ramblers, > > > International > > > > > and > > > > > > Caterpillar as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gerry > > > > > > > Glen Ellen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2009, at 5:34 PM, > don wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robin, > > > > > > > > Thanks for jarring my > memory! > > > Now, I > > > > > remember > > > > > > Washburn on the east > > > > > > > > side of SR Avenue near > Petaluma > > > Hill Road. > > > > > It > > > > > > was a long building > > > > > > > > and the showroom was at > the street > > > and the > > > > > > service bays were in line > > > > > > > > behind it. > > > > > > > > And I remember going to > EF Sweeney > > > in San > > > > > Rafael > > > > > > now. One memorable > > > > > > > > event was buying parts > there for > > > an MG. > > > > > There > > > > > > was a young woman who > > > > > > > > had bought an Austin > Marina new at > > > the > > > > > dealership > > > > > > not long before, > > > > > > > > and she told me the sad > story of > > > how > > > > > everything > > > > > > on the car had > > > > > > > > broken. That was in the > early > > > '70s. No > > > > > > wonder the Japanese were > > > > > > > > able to take over the > imported car > > > market > > > > > from > > > > > > the Brits. > > > > > > > > Don > > > > > > > > Calistoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Mugele > > > > > > > mewgull at mugele.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** Nobody roots for > Goliath. Wilt > > > Chamberlain > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > > > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > > > > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 3953 > (20090321) > > > Information > > > > > > __________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This message was checked by > NOD32 > > > antivirus > > > > > system. > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > > > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > > > > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 3953 > (20090321) > > > Information > > > > > > __________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This message was checked by > NOD32 > > > antivirus > > > > > system. > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > > > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > > > > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > > > > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of > type > > > image/jpeg > > > > > which had a name of DSC00294.JPG] > > > > > > > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of > type > > > image/jpeg > > > > > which had a name of DSC00104.JPG] > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From DPaige at srcity.org Mon Mar 23 07:55:06 2009 From: DPaige at srcity.org (Paige, Dean) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 07:55:06 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <2DE244BDB0394E319557D62ABC55F1F3@dell8300> Message-ID: I have it on vinyl! Too ,too old. Deano -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Plath Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:56 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area Not to worry. I have the whole album on my ipod. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "don" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area >A bit off the subject, but you can Youtube It's a Beautiful Day and White >Bird and listen to their big hit song. They lived on Mt. St. Helena >outside of Calistoga back in the early '70s. > > > > At 04:54 PM 03/21/2009, you wrote: > >>Back in 1970 I took my 67 MGB GT into BMC Motors in San Francisco. While >>waiting I started talking to another "long hair" who was waiting for his >>E-Type to be serviced. I asked him what he did and he said he was a >>musician. Turns out he was David Laflamme leader of the 60's acid rock >>band "It's a Beautiful Day". It made my day that's for sure. Back then >>you never knew who you would run into at BMC Motors. >> >>And then there's the famous Grace Slick Aston Martin story from the same >>BMC Motors. >> >>Ah memories. >> >>On another note the Daimler is finally finished and maybe I will join you >>on a run once the rain stops. Better yet we should plan a run in Marin my >>home territory. >> >>Steve Plath >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "don" >>To: "North Bay British Car Club" >>Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 3:10 PM >>Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area >> >> >>>Back in the late '50s through early '70s, British car dealerships could >>>be found in most US cities of any size, especially in California. Even >>>before I got my first British car in 1965, I loved visiting the showrooms >>>to admire the MGs, Triumphs and other British cars. Of course, I would >>>always pilfer as many sales brochures as I could hoping to not upset the >>>salespeople too much. >>> >>>I remember the BMC/Jaguar dealer in Napa on Soscol Avenue, which was to >>>become Napa Valley Datsun when they dropped the British car line around >>>1967. There was a BMC dealer that tried again in Napa shortly after but >>>didn't last long. I remember taking my MGA there for repairs in 1968, >>>but I don't remember the name of the place. I do remember that it was >>>very expensive to pay someone to repair my car, and after that, did most >>>of my repairs myself. The name of it might have been Washborn Imports. >>> >>>In Santa Rosa, there was Ralph Vesper Motors on Santa Rosa Avenue which >>>sold Triumphs and British Fords. I remember that dealership, because, as >>>I bought parts for my old Anglia and Zodiac (c. 1966, '67), I was >>>distracted by the siren's call of the sleek TR4s and Spitfires on display >>>in the showroom. I still have a few pieces of the Triumph literature I >>>took on visits to Vesper. Car dealers usually left their identification >>>by irubber stamping their names and addresses onto the front or back of >>>the sales literature. Vesper's name and address sill adorn my old >>>Triumph brochures. >>> >>>The most interesting dealership to visit was always British Motors on Van >>>Ness Avenue in San Francisco. They had Jaguar, Rolls Royce and the whole >>>BMC line, and the cars they had on display were always of a high calibre. >>>This was such a classy place that I always felt underdressed because I >>>wasn't wearing a suit and tie. As an extreme British car nut, I was >>>thrilled just to purchase parts there. I do have several license plate >>>frames from there, which I think are a cool period accessory. >>> >>>Other dealerships that come to mind are Union Jack (BMC) in Hayward and >>>British Motors in San Jose. >>> >>>Anyone else have any recollections of the British car dealer world in the >>>area? >>> >>>Don Scott >>>Calistoga >>>1962 MGA Mk II >>>1991 Miata BRG >>>1973 MGB GT >>>1962 TR4 (seeking) >>> >>>-- >>>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - >>>Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Nobbc mailing list >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc mailing list >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> >> >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - >>Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - > Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From craigw at sonic.net Mon Mar 23 08:05:54 2009 From: craigw at sonic.net (craigw at sonic.net) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:05:54 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area Message-ID: <15533.1237820754@sonic.net> I had an MGB in high school, late '60's to early '70's. I used to take it to Washburn Imports, which sold MG's at the time. They were located just north of the highway 12 overcrossing at Santa Rosa Ave. I believe they went out of business in the late '70's or so. Craig Wiper On Mon 23/03/09 7:55 AM , "Paige, Dean" DPaige at srcity.org sent: I have it on vinyl! Too ,too old. Deano -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [1]] On Behalf Of Steve Plath Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:56 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area Not to worry. I have the whole album on my ipod. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "don" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area >A bit off the subject, but you can Youtube It's a Beautiful Day and White >Bird and listen to their big hit song. They lived on Mt. St. Helena >outside of Calistoga back in the early '70s. > > > > At 04:54 PM 03/21/2009, you wrote: > >>Back in 1970 I took my 67 MGB GT into BMC Motors in San Francisco. While >>waiting I started talking to another "long hair" who was waiting for his >>E-Type to be serviced. I asked him what he did and he said he was a >>musician. Turns out he was David Laflamme leader of the 60's acid rock >>band "It's a Beautiful Day". It made my day that's for sure. Back then >>you never knew who you would run into at BMC Motors. >> >>And then there's the famous Grace Slick Aston Martin story from the same >>BMC Motors. >> >>Ah memories. >> >>On another note the Daimler is finally finished and maybe I will join you >>on a run once the rain stops. Better yet we should plan a run in Marin my >>home territory. >> >>Steve Plath >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "don" >>To: "North Bay British Car Club" >>Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 3:10 PM >>Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area >> >> >>>Back in the late '50s through early '70s, British car dealerships could >>>be found in most US cities of any size, especially in California. Even >>>before I got my first British car in 1965, I loved visiting the showrooms >>>to admire the MGs, Triumphs and other British cars. Of course, I would >>>always pilfer as many sales brochures as I could hoping to not upset the >>>salespeople too much. >>> >>>I remember the BMC/Jaguar dealer in Napa on Soscol Avenue, which was to >>>become Napa Valley Datsun when they dropped the British car line around >>>1967. There was a BMC dealer that tried again in Napa shortly after but >>>didn't last long. I remember taking my MGA there for repairs in 1968, >>>but I don't remember the name of the place. I do remember that it was >>>very expensive to pay someone to repair my car, and after that, did most >>>of my repairs myself. The name of it might have been Washborn Imports. >>> >>>In Santa Rosa, there was Ralph Vesper Motors on Santa Rosa Avenue which >>>sold Triumphs and British Fords. I remember that dealership, because, as >>>I bought parts for my old Anglia and Zodiac (c. 1966, '67), I was >>>distracted by the siren's call of the sleek TR4s and Spitfires on display >>>in the showroom. I still have a few pieces of the Triumph literature I >>>took on visits to Vesper. Car dealers usually left their identification >>>by irubber stamping their names and addresses onto the front or back of >>>the sales literature. Vesper's name and address sill adorn my old >>>Triumph brochures. >>> >>>The most interesting dealership to visit was always British Motors on Van >>>Ness Avenue in San Francisco. They had Jaguar, Rolls Royce and the whole >>>BMC line, and the cars they had on display were always of a high calibre. >>>This was such a classy place that I always felt underdressed because I >>>wasn't wearing a suit and tie. As an extreme British car nut, I was >>>thrilled just to purchase parts there. I do have several license plate >>>frames from there, which I think are a cool period accessory. >>> >>>Other dealerships that come to mind are Union Jack (BMC) in Hayward and >>>British Motors in San Jose. >>> >>>Anyone else have any recollections of the British car dealer world in the >>>area? >>> >>>Don Scott >>>Calistoga >>>1962 MGA Mk II >>>1991 Miata BRG >>>1973 MGB GT >>>1962 TR4 (seeking) >>> >>>-- >>>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - >>>Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Nobbc mailing list >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net [6] >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc mailing list >>Nobbc at autox.team.net [8] >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> >> >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - >>Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - > Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net [10] > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net [12] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net [14] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc Links: ------ [1] mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [2] mailto:don at napanet.net [3] mailto:nobbc at autox.team.net [4] mailto:don at napanet.net [5] mailto:nobbc at autox.team.net [6] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net [7] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc [8] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net [9] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc [10] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net [11] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc [12] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net [13] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc [14] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net [15] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From haiku99 at gmail.com Mon Mar 23 09:09:40 2009 From: haiku99 at gmail.com (Bill Crowe) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:09:40 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: References: <2DE244BDB0394E319557D62ABC55F1F3@dell8300> Message-ID: <188b620b0903230909g61458142j8dad444f591ce47d@mail.gmail.com> FWIW David LaFlame (violin payer of IABD) still lives in the area and plays local clubs, sometimes with Paul Gruen doing Django Reinhart style Gypsy Jazz, great stuff.... On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Paige, Dean wrote: > I have it on vinyl! Too ,too old. > > Deano > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > ]wc1632wc > On Behalf Of Steve Plath > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:56 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > > Not to worry. I have the whole album on my ipod. > > Steve > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "don" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > > > >A bit off the subject, but you can Youtube It's a Beautiful Day and > White > >Bird and listen to their big hit song. They lived on Mt. St. Helena > >outside of Calistoga back in the early '70s. > > > > > > > > At 04:54 PM 03/21/2009, you wrote: > > > >>Back in 1970 I took my 67 MGB GT into BMC Motors in San Francisco. > While > >>waiting I started talking to another "long hair" who was waiting for > his > >>E-Type to be serviced. I asked him what he did and he said he was a > >>musician. Turns out he was David Laflamme leader of the 60's acid > rock > >>band "It's a Beautiful Day". It made my day that's for sure. Back > then > >>you never knew who you would run into at BMC Motors. > >> > >>And then there's the famous Grace Slick Aston Martin story from the > same > >>BMC Motors. > >> > >>Ah memories. > >> > >>On another note the Daimler is finally finished and maybe I will join > you > >>on a run once the rain stops. Better yet we should plan a run in > Marin my > >>home territory. > >> > >>Steve Plath > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- From: "don" > >>To: "North Bay British Car Club" > >>Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 3:10 PM > >>Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > >> > >> > >>>Back in the late '50s through early '70s, British car dealerships > could > >>>be found in most US cities of any size, especially in California. > Even > >>>before I got my first British car in 1965, I loved visiting the > showrooms > >>>to admire the MGs, Triumphs and other British cars. Of course, I > would > >>>always pilfer as many sales brochures as I could hoping to not upset > the > >>>salespeople too much. > >>> > >>>I remember the BMC/Jaguar dealer in Napa on Soscol Avenue, which was > to > >>>become Napa Valley Datsun when they dropped the British car line > around > >>>1967. There was a BMC dealer that tried again in Napa shortly after > but > >>>didn't last long. I remember taking my MGA there for repairs in > 1968, > >>>but I don't remember the name of the place. I do remember that it > was > >>>very expensive to pay someone to repair my car, and after that, did > most > >>>of my repairs myself. The name of it might have been Washborn > Imports. > >>> > >>>In Santa Rosa, there was Ralph Vesper Motors on Santa Rosa Avenue > which > >>>sold Triumphs and British Fords. I remember that dealership, > because, as > >>>I bought parts for my old Anglia and Zodiac (c. 1966, '67), I was > >>>distracted by the siren's call of the sleek TR4s and Spitfires on > display > >>>in the showroom. I still have a few pieces of the Triumph literature > I > >>>took on visits to Vesper. Car dealers usually left their > identification > >>>by irubber stamping their names and addresses onto the front or back > of > >>>the sales literature. Vesper's name and address sill adorn my old > >>>Triumph brochures. > >>> > >>>The most interesting dealership to visit was always British Motors on > Van > >>>Ness Avenue in San Francisco. They had Jaguar, Rolls Royce and the > whole > >>>BMC line, and the cars they had on display were always of a high > calibre. > >>>This was such a classy place that I always felt underdressed because > I > >>>wasn't wearing a suit and tie. As an extreme British car nut, I was > >>>thrilled just to purchase parts there. I do have several license > plate > >>>frames from there, which I think are a cool period accessory. > >>> > >>>Other dealerships that come to mind are Union Jack (BMC) in Hayward > and > >>>British Motors in San Jose. > >>> > >>>Anyone else have any recollections of the British car dealer world in > the > >>>area? > >>> > >>>Don Scott > >>>Calistoga > >>>1962 MGA Mk II > >>>1991 Miata BRG > >>>1973 MGB GT > >>>1962 TR4 (seeking) > >>> > >>>-- > >>>No virus found in this outgoing message. > >>>Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - > >>>Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>Nobbc mailing list > >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net > >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Nobbc mailing list > >>Nobbc at autox.team.net > >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - > >>Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - > > Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From craigw at sonic.net Mon Mar 23 09:21:11 2009 From: craigw at sonic.net (craigw at sonic.net) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:21:11 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area Message-ID: <21702.1237825271@sonic.net> Yeah, I played at a jam on Labor day in Larkfield. He was there. Craig On Mon 23/03/09 9:09 AM , Bill Crowe haiku99 at gmail.com sent: FWIW David LaFlame (violin payer of IABD) still lives in the area and plays local clubs, sometimes with Paul Gruen doing Django Reinhart style Gypsy Jazz, great stuff.... On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Paige, Dean wrote: > I have it on vinyl! Too ,too old. > > Deano > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [2] > ]wc1632wc > On Behalf Of Steve Plath > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:56 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > > Not to worry. I have the whole album on my ipod. > > Steve > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "don" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > > > >A bit off the subject, but you can Youtube It's a Beautiful Day and > White > >Bird and listen to their big hit song. They lived on Mt. St. Helena > >outside of Calistoga back in the early '70s. > > > > > > > > At 04:54 PM 03/21/2009, you wrote: > > > >>Back in 1970 I took my 67 MGB GT into BMC Motors in San Francisco. > While > >>waiting I started talking to another "long hair" who was waiting for > his > >>E-Type to be serviced. I asked him what he did and he said he was a > >>musician. Turns out he was David Laflamme leader of the 60's acid > rock > >>band "It's a Beautiful Day". It made my day that's for sure. Back > then > >>you never knew who you would run into at BMC Motors. > >> > >>And then there's the famous Grace Slick Aston Martin story from the > same > >>BMC Motors. > >> > >>Ah memories. > >> > >>On another note the Daimler is finally finished and maybe I will join > you > >>on a run once the rain stops. Better yet we should plan a run in > Marin my > >>home territory. > >> > >>Steve Plath > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- From: "don" > >>To: "North Bay British Car Club" > >>Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 3:10 PM > >>Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > >> > >> > >>>Back in the late '50s through early '70s, British car dealerships > could > >>>be found in most US cities of any size, especially in California. > Even > >>>before I got my first British car in 1965, I loved visiting the > showrooms > >>>to admire the MGs, Triumphs and other British cars. Of course, I > would > >>>always pilfer as many sales brochures as I could hoping to not upset > the > >>>salespeople too much. > >>> > >>>I remember the BMC/Jaguar dealer in Napa on Soscol Avenue, which was > to > >>>become Napa Valley Datsun when they dropped the British car line > around > >>>1967. There was a BMC dealer that tried again in Napa shortly after > but > >>>didn't last long. I remember taking my MGA there for repairs in > 1968, > >>>but I don't remember the name of the place. I do remember that it > was > >>>very expensive to pay someone to repair my car, and after that, did > most > >>>of my repairs myself. The name of it might have been Washborn > Imports. > >>> > >>>In Santa Rosa, there was Ralph Vesper Motors on Santa Rosa Avenue > which > >>>sold Triumphs and British Fords. I remember that dealership, > because, as > >>>I bought parts for my old Anglia and Zodiac (c. 1966, '67), I was > >>>distracted by the siren's call of the sleek TR4s and Spitfires on > display > >>>in the showroom. I still have a few pieces of the Triumph literature > I > >>>took on visits to Vesper. Car dealers usually left their > identification > >>>by irubber stamping their names and addresses onto the front or back > of > >>>the sales literature. Vesper's name and address sill adorn my old > >>>Triumph brochures. > >>> > >>>The most interesting dealership to visit was always British Motors on > Van > >>>Ness Avenue in San Francisco. They had Jaguar, Rolls Royce and the > whole > >>>BMC line, and the cars they had on display were always of a high > calibre. > >>>This was such a classy place that I always felt underdressed because > I > >>>wasn't wearing a suit and tie. As an extreme British car nut, I was > >>>thrilled just to purchase parts there. I do have several license > plate > >>>frames from there, which I think are a cool period accessory. > >>> > >>>Other dealerships that come to mind are Union Jack (BMC) in Hayward > and > >>>British Motors in San Jose. > >>> > >>>Anyone else have any recollections of the British car dealer world in > the > >>>area? > >>> > >>>Don Scott > >>>Calistoga > >>>1962 MGA Mk II > >>>1991 Miata BRG > >>>1973 MGB GT > >>>1962 TR4 (seeking) > >>> > >>>-- > >>>No virus found in this outgoing message. > >>>Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - > >>>Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>Nobbc mailing list > >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net [7] > >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Nobbc mailing list > >>Nobbc at autox.team.net [9] > >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - > >>Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - > > Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net [11] > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net [13] > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net [15] > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net [17] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc Links: ------ [1] mailto:DPaige at srcity.org [2] mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [3] mailto:don at napanet.net [4] mailto:nobbc at autox.team.net [5] mailto:don at napanet.net [6] mailto:nobbc at autox.team.net [7] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net [8] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc [9] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net [10] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc [11] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net [12] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc [13] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net [14] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc [15] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net [16] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc [17] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net [18] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Thu Mar 26 17:52:35 2009 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:52:35 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <21702.1237825271@sonic.net> References: <21702.1237825271@sonic.net> Message-ID: <95a735e60903261752m4b94531bg14165c170014495@mail.gmail.com> The Dealer string seems to have flamed out; was fun while it lasted, but there were only that many dealers to talk about. Just a couple of final comments from me of interest to Morgan folk. I mentioned Frank Henry on Telegraph in Berkeley. I bought two 1958 Mogs from him, the first one I had a terrible wreck with, but survived with cuts and bruises. The second he sold me for a very decent price, $2,500 as I remember. I raced that one. Frank was a fine gentleman. He always wore a three piece tweed suit, gold chain and watch in the vest pocket. He kept his cars on an open lot but had a small sales office where he had poetry books to read. Where else but Berkel;ey? Lou Spencer had the Worldwide business on Sepulvada. He was the one to beat in his line of "Baby Dolls", that's what he named his cars. He had a French mechanic, Claude, who could change out a clutch in a half hour. He had cut away the firewall and pulled the tran out through the cabin. Ahh, those were the days! Cheers, Rj On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:21 AM, wrote: > Yeah, I played at a jam on Labor day in Larkfield. He was there. > Craig > On Mon 23/03/09 9:09 AM , Bill Crowe haiku99 at gmail.com sent: > FWIW David LaFlame (violin payer of IABD) still lives in the area > and plays > local clubs, sometimes with Paul Gruen doing Django Reinhart style > Gypsy > Jazz, great stuff.... > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Paige, Dean wrote: > > I have it on vinyl! Too ,too old. > > > > Deano > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > [2] > > ]wc1632wc > > On Behalf Of Steve Plath > > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:56 PM > > To: North Bay British Car Club > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > > > > Not to worry. I have the whole album on my ipod. > > > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "don" > > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:24 PM > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > > > > > > >A bit off the subject, but you can Youtube It's a Beautiful Day > and > > White > > >Bird and listen to their big hit song. They lived on Mt. St. > Helena > > >outside of Calistoga back in the early '70s. > > > > > > > > > > > > At 04:54 PM 03/21/2009, you wrote: > > > > > >>Back in 1970 I took my 67 MGB GT into BMC Motors in San > Francisco. > > While > > >>waiting I started talking to another "long hair" who was waiting > for > > his > > >>E-Type to be serviced. I asked him what he did and he said he > was a > > >>musician. Turns out he was David Laflamme leader of the 60's > acid > > rock > > >>band "It's a Beautiful Day". It made my day that's for sure. > Back > > then > > >>you never knew who you would run into at BMC Motors. > > >> > > >>And then there's the famous Grace Slick Aston Martin story from > the > > same > > >>BMC Motors. > > >> > > >>Ah memories. > > >> > > >>On another note the Daimler is finally finished and maybe I will > join > > you > > >>on a run once the rain stops. Better yet we should plan a run > in > > Marin my > > >>home territory. > > >> > > >>Steve Plath > > >> > > >>----- Original Message ----- From: "don" > > >>To: "North Bay British Car Club" > > >>Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 3:10 PM > > >>Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area > > >> > > >> > > >>>Back in the late '50s through early '70s, British car > dealerships > > could > > >>>be found in most US cities of any size, especially in > California. > > Even > > >>>before I got my first British car in 1965, I loved visiting the > > showrooms > > >>>to admire the MGs, Triumphs and other British cars. Of course, > I > > would > > >>>always pilfer as many sales brochures as I could hoping to not > upset > > the > > >>>salespeople too much. > > >>> > > >>>I remember the BMC/Jaguar dealer in Napa on Soscol Avenue, > which was > > to > > >>>become Napa Valley Datsun when they dropped the British car > line > > around > > >>>1967. There was a BMC dealer that tried again in Napa shortly > after > > but > > >>>didn't last long. I remember taking my MGA there for repairs > in > > 1968, > > >>>but I don't remember the name of the place. I do remember that > it > > was > > >>>very expensive to pay someone to repair my car, and after that, > did > > most > > >>>of my repairs myself. The name of it might have been Washborn > > Imports. > > >>> > > >>>In Santa Rosa, there was Ralph Vesper Motors on Santa Rosa > Avenue > > which > > >>>sold Triumphs and British Fords. I remember that dealership, > > because, as > > >>>I bought parts for my old Anglia and Zodiac (c. 1966, '67), I > was > > >>>distracted by the siren's call of the sleek TR4s and Spitfires > on > > display > > >>>in the showroom. I still have a few pieces of the Triumph > literature > > I > > >>>took on visits to Vesper. Car dealers usually left their > > identification > > >>>by irubber stamping their names and addresses onto the front or > back > > of > > >>>the sales literature. Vesper's name and address sill adorn my > old > > >>>Triumph brochures. > > >>> > > >>>The most interesting dealership to visit was always British > Motors on > > Van > > >>>Ness Avenue in San Francisco. They had Jaguar, Rolls Royce and > the > > whole > > >>>BMC line, and the cars they had on display were always of a > high > > calibre. > > >>>This was such a classy place that I always felt underdressed > because > > I > > >>>wasn't wearing a suit and tie. As an extreme British car nut, > I was > > >>>thrilled just to purchase parts there. I do have several > license > > plate > > >>>frames from there, which I think are a cool period accessory. > > >>> > > >>>Other dealerships that come to mind are Union Jack (BMC) in > Hayward > > and > > >>>British Motors in San Jose. > > >>> > > >>>Anyone else have any recollections of the British car dealer > world in > > the > > >>>area? > > >>> > > >>>Don Scott > > >>>Calistoga > > >>>1962 MGA Mk II > > >>>1991 Miata BRG > > >>>1973 MGB GT > > >>>1962 TR4 (seeking) > > >>> > > >>>-- > > >>>No virus found in this outgoing message. > > >>>Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: > 270.11.22/2015 - > > >>>Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM > > >>>_______________________________________________ > > >>>Nobbc mailing list > > >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net [7] > > >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>Nobbc mailing list > > >>Nobbc at autox.team.net [9] > > >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>-- > > >>No virus found in this incoming message. > > >>Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: > 270.11.22/2015 - > > >>Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: > 270.11.22/2015 - > > > Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net [11] > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net [13] > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net [15] > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net [17] > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > Links: > ------ > [1] mailto:DPaige at srcity.org > [2] mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > [3] mailto:don at napanet.net > [4] mailto:nobbc at autox.team.net > [5] mailto:don at napanet.net > [6] mailto:nobbc at autox.team.net > [7] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net > [8] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > [9] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net > [10] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > [11] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net > [12] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > [13] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net > [14] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > [15] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net > [16] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > [17] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net > [18] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From wbain at sonic.net Fri Mar 27 13:21:53 2009 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:21:53 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <95a735e60903261752m4b94531bg14165c170014495@mail.gmail.com> References: <21702.1237825271@sonic.net> <95a735e60903261752m4b94531bg14165c170014495@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3BB006E8-8A99-4815-9660-F964EB5E2082@sonic.net> Hi Robin, Morgan fans this May 30, 31 and June 1 is the Wine Country Classic at Sears Pt. In observance of Morgan's 100th Anniversary they are the featured marque. There has been an attempt to get Lou Spencer to attend along with some other notable Morgan drivers from the past. Perhaps Chris Lawrence will attend, who along with Richard Shepherd Barron won their class in 1962 at Le Mans driving a Plus 4 that is probably the most famous Morgan of all and known simply by it's British registration number TOK 258. Greg Solow will have Baby Doll V there and I think one of the other Baby Doll Cars will attend. I think Pierre Brun will attend. He was a Morgan racing mechanic for quite a few years. Talk about a stressful job. Racing mechanic. EVERYTHING is a CRISIS!!! Cheers, Wendell Bain On Mar 26, 2009, at 5:52 PM, Robin Jackson wrote: > The Dealer string seems to have flamed out; was fun while it > lasted, but > there were only that many dealers to talk about. > > Just a couple of final comments from me of interest to Morgan folk. I > mentioned Frank Henry on Telegraph in Berkeley. I bought two 1958 > Mogs from > him, the first one I had a terrible wreck with, but survived with > cuts and > bruises. The second he sold me for a very decent price, $2,500 as I > remember. I raced that one. Frank was a fine gentleman. He always > wore a > three piece tweed suit, gold chain and watch in the vest pocket. He > kept his > cars on an open lot but had a small sales office where he had > poetry books > to read. Where else but Berkel;ey? > > Lou Spencer had the Worldwide business on Sepulvada. He was the one > to beat > in his line of "Baby Dolls", that's what he named his cars. He had > a French > mechanic, Claude, who could change out a clutch in a half hour. He > had cut > away the firewall and pulled the tran out through the cabin. Ahh, > those were > the days! > > Cheers, Rj > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:21 AM, wrote: > >> Yeah, I played at a jam on Labor day in Larkfield. He was there. >> Craig >> On Mon 23/03/09 9:09 AM , Bill Crowe haiku99 at gmail.com sent: >> FWIW David LaFlame (violin payer of IABD) still lives in the area >> and plays >> local clubs, sometimes with Paul Gruen doing Django Reinhart style >> Gypsy >> Jazz, great stuff.... >> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Paige, Dean wrote: >>> I have it on vinyl! Too ,too old. >>> >>> Deano >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >> [2] >>> ]wc1632wc >>> On Behalf Of Steve Plath >>> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:56 PM >>> To: North Bay British Car Club >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area >>> >>> Not to worry. I have the whole album on my ipod. >>> >>> Steve >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "don" >>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >>> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:24 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area >>> >>> >>>> A bit off the subject, but you can Youtube It's a Beautiful Day >> and >>> White >>>> Bird and listen to their big hit song. They lived on Mt. St. >> Helena >>>> outside of Calistoga back in the early '70s. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> At 04:54 PM 03/21/2009, you wrote: >>>> >>>>> Back in 1970 I took my 67 MGB GT into BMC Motors in San >> Francisco. >>> While >>>>> waiting I started talking to another "long hair" who was waiting >> for >>> his >>>>> E-Type to be serviced. I asked him what he did and he said he >> was a >>>>> musician. Turns out he was David Laflamme leader of the 60's >> acid >>> rock >>>>> band "It's a Beautiful Day". It made my day that's for sure. >> Back >>> then >>>>> you never knew who you would run into at BMC Motors. >>>>> >>>>> And then there's the famous Grace Slick Aston Martin story from >> the >>> same >>>>> BMC Motors. >>>>> >>>>> Ah memories. >>>>> >>>>> On another note the Daimler is finally finished and maybe I will >> join >>> you >>>>> on a run once the rain stops. Better yet we should plan a run >> in >>> Marin my >>>>> home territory. >>>>> >>>>> Steve Plath >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "don" >>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 3:10 PM >>>>> Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Back in the late '50s through early '70s, British car >> dealerships >>> could >>>>>> be found in most US cities of any size, especially in >> California. >>> Even >>>>>> before I got my first British car in 1965, I loved visiting the >>> showrooms >>>>>> to admire the MGs, Triumphs and other British cars. Of course, >> I >>> would >>>>>> always pilfer as many sales brochures as I could hoping to not >> upset >>> the >>>>>> salespeople too much. >>>>>> >>>>>> I remember the BMC/Jaguar dealer in Napa on Soscol Avenue, >> which was >>> to >>>>>> become Napa Valley Datsun when they dropped the British car >> line >>> around >>>>>> 1967. There was a BMC dealer that tried again in Napa shortly >> after >>> but >>>>>> didn't last long. I remember taking my MGA there for repairs >> in >>> 1968, >>>>>> but I don't remember the name of the place. I do remember that >> it >>> was >>>>>> very expensive to pay someone to repair my car, and after that, >> did >>> most >>>>>> of my repairs myself. The name of it might have been Washborn >>> Imports. >>>>>> >>>>>> In Santa Rosa, there was Ralph Vesper Motors on Santa Rosa >> Avenue >>> which >>>>>> sold Triumphs and British Fords. I remember that dealership, >>> because, as >>>>>> I bought parts for my old Anglia and Zodiac (c. 1966, '67), I >> was >>>>>> distracted by the siren's call of the sleek TR4s and Spitfires >> on >>> display >>>>>> in the showroom. I still have a few pieces of the Triumph >> literature >>> I >>>>>> took on visits to Vesper. Car dealers usually left their >>> identification >>>>>> by irubber stamping their names and addresses onto the front or >> back >>> of >>>>>> the sales literature. Vesper's name and address sill adorn my >> old >>>>>> Triumph brochures. >>>>>> >>>>>> The most interesting dealership to visit was always British >> Motors on >>> Van >>>>>> Ness Avenue in San Francisco. They had Jaguar, Rolls Royce and >> the >>> whole >>>>>> BMC line, and the cars they had on display were always of a >> high >>> calibre. >>>>>> This was such a classy place that I always felt underdressed >> because >>> I >>>>>> wasn't wearing a suit and tie. As an extreme British car nut, >> I was >>>>>> thrilled just to purchase parts there. I do have several >> license >>> plate >>>>>> frames from there, which I think are a cool period accessory. >>>>>> >>>>>> Other dealerships that come to mind are Union Jack (BMC) in >> Hayward >>> and >>>>>> British Motors in San Jose. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyone else have any recollections of the British car dealer >> world in >>> the >>>>>> area? >>>>>> >>>>>> Don Scott >>>>>> Calistoga >>>>>> 1962 MGA Mk II >>>>>> 1991 Miata BRG >>>>>> 1973 MGB GT >>>>>> 1962 TR4 (seeking) >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>>>> Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: >> 270.11.22/2015 - >>>>>> Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Nobbc mailing list >>>>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net [7] >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Nobbc mailing list >>>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net [9] >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: >> 270.11.22/2015 - >>>>> Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>> Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: >> 270.11.22/2015 - >>>> Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc mailing list >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net [11] >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net [13] >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net [15] >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net [17] >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] mailto:DPaige at srcity.org >> [2] mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >> [3] mailto:don at napanet.net >> [4] mailto:nobbc at autox.team.net >> [5] mailto:don at napanet.net >> [6] mailto:nobbc at autox.team.net >> [7] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net >> [8] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> [9] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net >> [10] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> [11] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net >> [12] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> [13] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net >> [14] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> [15] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net >> [16] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> [17] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net >> [18] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Fri Mar 27 15:38:19 2009 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:38:19 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area In-Reply-To: <3BB006E8-8A99-4815-9660-F964EB5E2082@sonic.net> References: <21702.1237825271@sonic.net> <95a735e60903261752m4b94531bg14165c170014495@mail.gmail.com> <3BB006E8-8A99-4815-9660-F964EB5E2082@sonic.net> Message-ID: <95a735e60903271538w3f3a30a7q516f0db8f8f294b4@mail.gmail.com> Wendell - thanks for the heads up re Wine Country. I will be sure to attend. We had a great time last year with the hospitality tent and all. My daughter treated eight of my old racing friends for my 75th. I believe I stand corrected about the name of Lou Spenser's mechanic. It must have been Pierre, not Claude. (Sometimes its a little foggy at this end of the road!) I think I have a pic of him with Baby Doll 1 or 2, going back to 1959. Another Mog racer of that period was Rick Hilgers who ran a garage in Monterey. The only one I'm still in touch with is Bill Hinshaw who lives in Moraga. Cheers, Rj On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:21 PM, wendell bain wrote: > Hi Robin, > > Morgan fans this May 30, 31 and June 1 is the Wine Country Classic at Sears > Pt. > In observance of Morgan's 100th Anniversary they are the featured marque. > There has been an attempt to get Lou Spencer to attend along with some > other > notable Morgan drivers from the past. Perhaps Chris Lawrence will attend, > who > along with Richard Shepherd Barron won their class in 1962 at Le Mans > driving > a Plus 4 that is probably the most famous Morgan of all and known simply by > it's British registration number TOK 258. > Greg Solow will have Baby Doll V there and I think one of the other Baby > Doll > Cars will attend. > I think Pierre Brun will attend. He was a Morgan racing mechanic for quite > a few years. > Talk about a stressful job. Racing mechanic. EVERYTHING is a CRISIS!!! > > Cheers, > > Wendell Bain > > > On Mar 26, 2009, at 5:52 PM, Robin Jackson wrote: > > The Dealer string seems to have flamed out; was fun while it lasted, but >> there were only that many dealers to talk about. >> >> Just a couple of final comments from me of interest to Morgan folk. I >> mentioned Frank Henry on Telegraph in Berkeley. I bought two 1958 Mogs >> from >> him, the first one I had a terrible wreck with, but survived with cuts and >> bruises. The second he sold me for a very decent price, $2,500 as I >> remember. I raced that one. Frank was a fine gentleman. He always wore a >> three piece tweed suit, gold chain and watch in the vest pocket. He kept >> his >> cars on an open lot but had a small sales office where he had poetry books >> to read. Where else but Berkel;ey? >> >> Lou Spencer had the Worldwide business on Sepulvada. He was the one to >> beat >> in his line of "Baby Dolls", that's what he named his cars. He had a >> French >> mechanic, Claude, who could change out a clutch in a half hour. He had cut >> away the firewall and pulled the tran out through the cabin. Ahh, those >> were >> the days! >> >> Cheers, Rj >> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:21 AM, wrote: >> >> Yeah, I played at a jam on Labor day in Larkfield. He was there. >>> Craig >>> On Mon 23/03/09 9:09 AM , Bill Crowe haiku99 at gmail.com sent: >>> FWIW David LaFlame (violin payer of IABD) still lives in the area >>> and plays >>> local clubs, sometimes with Paul Gruen doing Django Reinhart style >>> Gypsy >>> Jazz, great stuff.... >>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Paige, Dean wrote: >>> >>>> I have it on vinyl! Too ,too old. >>>> >>>> Deano >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >>>> >>> [2] >>> >>>> ]wc1632wc >>>> On Behalf Of Steve Plath >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:56 PM >>>> To: North Bay British Car Club >>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area >>>> >>>> Not to worry. I have the whole album on my ipod. >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "don" >>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:24 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area >>>> >>>> >>>> A bit off the subject, but you can Youtube It's a Beautiful Day >>>>> >>>> and >>> >>>> White >>>> >>>>> Bird and listen to their big hit song. They lived on Mt. St. >>>>> >>>> Helena >>> >>>> outside of Calistoga back in the early '70s. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> At 04:54 PM 03/21/2009, you wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Back in 1970 I took my 67 MGB GT into BMC Motors in San >>>>>> >>>>> Francisco. >>> >>>> While >>>> >>>>> waiting I started talking to another "long hair" who was waiting >>>>>> >>>>> for >>> >>>> his >>>> >>>>> E-Type to be serviced. I asked him what he did and he said he >>>>>> >>>>> was a >>> >>>> musician. Turns out he was David Laflamme leader of the 60's >>>>>> >>>>> acid >>> >>>> rock >>>> >>>>> band "It's a Beautiful Day". It made my day that's for sure. >>>>>> >>>>> Back >>> >>>> then >>>> >>>>> you never knew who you would run into at BMC Motors. >>>>>> >>>>>> And then there's the famous Grace Slick Aston Martin story from >>>>>> >>>>> the >>> >>>> same >>>> >>>>> BMC Motors. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ah memories. >>>>>> >>>>>> On another note the Daimler is finally finished and maybe I will >>>>>> >>>>> join >>> >>>> you >>>> >>>>> on a run once the rain stops. Better yet we should plan a run >>>>>> >>>>> in >>> >>>> Marin my >>>> >>>>> home territory. >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve Plath >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "don" >>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 3:10 PM >>>>>> Subject: [Nobbc] British car dealerships in the area >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Back in the late '50s through early '70s, British car >>>>>>> >>>>>> dealerships >>> >>>> could >>>> >>>>> be found in most US cities of any size, especially in >>>>>>> >>>>>> California. >>> >>>> Even >>>> >>>>> before I got my first British car in 1965, I loved visiting the >>>>>>> >>>>>> showrooms >>>> >>>>> to admire the MGs, Triumphs and other British cars. Of course, >>>>>>> >>>>>> I >>> >>>> would >>>> >>>>> always pilfer as many sales brochures as I could hoping to not >>>>>>> >>>>>> upset >>> >>>> the >>>> >>>>> salespeople too much. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I remember the BMC/Jaguar dealer in Napa on Soscol Avenue, >>>>>>> >>>>>> which was >>> >>>> to >>>> >>>>> become Napa Valley Datsun when they dropped the British car >>>>>>> >>>>>> line >>> >>>> around >>>> >>>>> 1967. There was a BMC dealer that tried again in Napa shortly >>>>>>> >>>>>> after >>> >>>> but >>>> >>>>> didn't last long. I remember taking my MGA there for repairs >>>>>>> >>>>>> in >>> >>>> 1968, >>>> >>>>> but I don't remember the name of the place. I do remember that >>>>>>> >>>>>> it >>> >>>> was >>>> >>>>> very expensive to pay someone to repair my car, and after that, >>>>>>> >>>>>> did >>> >>>> most >>>> >>>>> of my repairs myself. The name of it might have been Washborn >>>>>>> >>>>>> Imports. >>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> In Santa Rosa, there was Ralph Vesper Motors on Santa Rosa >>>>>>> >>>>>> Avenue >>> >>>> which >>>> >>>>> sold Triumphs and British Fords. I remember that dealership, >>>>>>> >>>>>> because, as >>>> >>>>> I bought parts for my old Anglia and Zodiac (c. 1966, '67), I >>>>>>> >>>>>> was >>> >>>> distracted by the siren's call of the sleek TR4s and Spitfires >>>>>>> >>>>>> on >>> >>>> display >>>> >>>>> in the showroom. I still have a few pieces of the Triumph >>>>>>> >>>>>> literature >>> >>>> I >>>> >>>>> took on visits to Vesper. Car dealers usually left their >>>>>>> >>>>>> identification >>>> >>>>> by irubber stamping their names and addresses onto the front or >>>>>>> >>>>>> back >>> >>>> of >>>> >>>>> the sales literature. Vesper's name and address sill adorn my >>>>>>> >>>>>> old >>> >>>> Triumph brochures. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The most interesting dealership to visit was always British >>>>>>> >>>>>> Motors on >>> >>>> Van >>>> >>>>> Ness Avenue in San Francisco. They had Jaguar, Rolls Royce and >>>>>>> >>>>>> the >>> >>>> whole >>>> >>>>> BMC line, and the cars they had on display were always of a >>>>>>> >>>>>> high >>> >>>> calibre. >>>> >>>>> This was such a classy place that I always felt underdressed >>>>>>> >>>>>> because >>> >>>> I >>>> >>>>> wasn't wearing a suit and tie. As an extreme British car nut, >>>>>>> >>>>>> I was >>> >>>> thrilled just to purchase parts there. I do have several >>>>>>> >>>>>> license >>> >>>> plate >>>> >>>>> frames from there, which I think are a cool period accessory. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Other dealerships that come to mind are Union Jack (BMC) in >>>>>>> >>>>>> Hayward >>> >>>> and >>>> >>>>> British Motors in San Jose. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyone else have any recollections of the British car dealer >>>>>>> >>>>>> world in >>> >>>> the >>>> >>>>> area? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don Scott >>>>>>> Calistoga >>>>>>> 1962 MGA Mk II >>>>>>> 1991 Miata BRG >>>>>>> 1973 MGB GT >>>>>>> 1962 TR4 (seeking) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>>>>> Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: >>>>>>> >>>>>> 270.11.22/2015 - >>> >>>> Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Nobbc mailing list >>>>>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net [7] >>>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Nobbc mailing list >>>>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net [9] >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>> Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: >>>>>> >>>>> 270.11.22/2015 - >>> >>>> Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>>> Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: >>>>> >>>> 270.11.22/2015 - >>> >>>> Release Date: 03/20/2009 7:01 PM >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Nobbc mailing list >>>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net [11] >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc mailing list >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net [13] >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nobbc mailing list >>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net [15] >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net [17] >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> >>> >>> Links: >>> ------ >>> [1] mailto:DPaige at srcity.org >>> [2] mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >>> [3] mailto:don at napanet.net >>> [4] mailto:nobbc at autox.team.net >>> [5] mailto:don at napanet.net >>> [6] mailto:nobbc at autox.team.net >>> [7] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> [8] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> [9] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> [10] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> [11] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> [12] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> [13] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> [14] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> [15] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> [16] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> [17] mailto:Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> [18] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Mon Mar 30 13:04:44 2009 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:04:44 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] MGB V8 Costellos in your club? Message-ID: <49D125DC.4080303@sonic.net> I received this today. Anybody know of or have one of these? If so, give Lawrence a shout. Ron 58 MGA -------- Original Message -------- Subject: MGB V8 Costellos in your club? Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:48:59 +0000 (GMT) From: Lawrence Wood Reply-To: lolwood at yahoo.co.uk CC: Lawrence Wood Good afternoon from London, UK. I am trying to contact anyone in your MG club who might own (or used to own) an MGB Costello V8. These are the cars converted to V8 power by Ken Costello in the UK from 1970 to about 1974 (although more were done in the early 1990s), which gave British Leyland the urge to develop their own factory version - the MGBV8. The Costellos are rare beasts these days with only about 225 converted in those earlier years. As a Costello Roadster owner here in the UK, I manage a website (as a hobby) which attempts to unite all the current Costello-converted cars, allows owners to share ideas, stories, photographs, articles and so on. If you have any Costello owners in your club I'd very much like to hear from them - it would be great to add more of these rare cars to our list, especially from North America. It's all completely free, and copyright is atributed to the owner for any photos or text they submit. Take a look - http://www.mgcostello.com and drop me a line. Kind regards Lawrence Wood. From tkamstra at sonic.net Mon Mar 30 14:22:09 2009 From: tkamstra at sonic.net (Tcherek Kamstra) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:22:09 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] 20th Annual Chico Brit Car Show In-Reply-To: <47D8453B.2040808@sonic.net> References: <47D8453B.2040808@sonic.net> Message-ID: I received this message addressed to the club at large: At 1:12 PM -0700 3/30/09, Kristen Alton wrote: >The 20th annual Chico British Car show is coming up on April 26, >2009 and we could love to have attendees from the North Bay. Our >website is chicobritishcarshow.com, >where participants can pre-register their cars. We would love all >the support. >If you have any questions please email them to me, and I will answer >them as soon as possible. >Thank you, >Kristen Alton >Company 323 >Chico State University From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Mon Mar 30 13:43:07 2009 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:43:07 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] 20th Annual Chico Brit Car Show In-Reply-To: References: <47D8453B.2040808@sonic.net> Message-ID: <95a735e60903301343k3a6f182bya6973b3c0623504a@mail.gmail.com> The photos of the last show are well taken and the cars are great. Give it a look! On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Tcherek Kamstra wrote: > I received this message addressed to the club at large: > > At 1:12 PM -0700 3/30/09, Kristen Alton wrote: > >The 20th annual Chico British Car show is coming up on April 26, > >2009 and we could love to have attendees from the North Bay. Our > >website is chicobritishcarshow.com, > >where participants can pre-register their cars. We would love all > >the support. > >If you have any questions please email them to me, and I will answer > >them as soon as possible. > >Thank you, > >Kristen Alton > >Company 323 > >Chico State University > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From wbain at sonic.net Mon Mar 30 13:54:41 2009 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:54:41 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] 20th Annual Chico Brit Car Show In-Reply-To: <95a735e60903301343k3a6f182bya6973b3c0623504a@mail.gmail.com> References: <47D8453B.2040808@sonic.net> <95a735e60903301343k3a6f182bya6973b3c0623504a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ron, Robin, Nice shots from the show in 08. Might be worth doing. On Mar 30, 2009, at 1:43 PM, Robin Jackson wrote: > The photos of the last show are well taken and the cars are great. > Give it a > look! > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Tcherek Kamstra > wrote: > >> I received this message addressed to the club at large: >> >> At 1:12 PM -0700 3/30/09, Kristen Alton wrote: >>> The 20th annual Chico British Car show is coming up on April 26, >>> 2009 and we could love to have attendees from the North Bay. Our >>> website is chicobritishcarshow.com, >>> where participants can pre-register their cars. We would love all >>> the support. >>> If you have any questions please email them to me, and I will answer >>> them as soon as possible. >>> Thank you, >>> Kristen Alton >>> Company 323 >>> Chico State University >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From zied at redwoodempiremini.com Mon Mar 30 14:10:13 2009 From: zied at redwoodempiremini.com (Peter Ziedrich) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:10:13 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] 20th Annual Chico Brit Car Show In-Reply-To: <95a735e60903301343k3a6f182bya6973b3c0623504a@mail.gmail.com> References: <47D8453B.2040808@sonic.net> <95a735e60903301343k3a6f182bya6973b3c0623504a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001c9b17b$ebb19f70$c314de50$@com> I attended this show last year, held on the greens of a local Golf Course. It was an absolutely beautiful show last year (around 100-150 cars), under-organized by Dixon-Woodland Standards which is refreshing. It is a long drive if you do it in one day like I did, but there is a coin operated car wash nearby to rid your car of bug guts from early morning driving. I may be attending again this year, but the organizers this year are not too receptive about returning emails, and my car is currently in the shop having the front bumper repainted and new painted stripes and clear-coat on my hood. Apparently in the past this was self produced by the Chico Area British Car Club and now someone else is doing it in their behalf, but starting the marketing process a little late... Don't go to the Chico Area British Car Club website because it still references the 2008 show they organized. A reminder, we are having a British & European Car Show in August in Santa Rosa (just south of Windsor)... see http://redwoodempiremini.com/carshow.htm Peter Ziedrich Founder zied at redwoodempiremini.com http://redwoodempiremini.com -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robin Jackson Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:43 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] 20th Annual Chico Brit Car Show The photos of the last show are well taken and the cars are great. Give it a look! On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Tcherek Kamstra wrote: > I received this message addressed to the club at large: > > At 1:12 PM -0700 3/30/09, Kristen Alton wrote: > >The 20th annual Chico British Car show is coming up on April 26, > >2009 and we could love to have attendees from the North Bay. Our > >website is chicobritishcarshow.com, > >where participants can pre-register their cars. We would love all > >the support. > >If you have any questions please email them to me, and I will answer > >them as soon as possible. > >Thank you, > >Kristen Alton > >Company 323 > >Chico State University > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.12070 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ __________ NOD32 3975 (20090330) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com