From nobbc at sonic.net Thu Dec 3 17:08:28 2009 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:08:28 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Magazine article. Message-ID: <4B1852FC.6070505@sonic.net> I received the following from club member Craig Murphy who now lives in Minnesota. I'm sure many of you remember Craig and his really nice Mini Cooper. The magazine navigation is a little tricky but perservere, as the article is well done and interesting. Ron 58 MGA ****************************************************************************** Hi All, My car is featured in December '09 Mini Magazine. You can view the feature here: http://www.zinio.com/browse/publications/index.jsp?productId=500306759&sch=true Craig From jkenner at tamcab.com Sat Dec 5 16:16:09 2009 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:16:09 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] 1977 SPITFIRE Message-ID: <000301ca7600$ee96fab0$cbc4f010$@com> HELLO CLUB, I AM DISMANTLING A 1977 SPITFIRE. I INTEND TO KEEP THE MOTOR, TRANNY, REAR END AND POSSIBLY THE BRAKES AND SUSPENSION. THE REST I WANT TO GET RID OF. I WILL SELL THE STUFF ON A " LET YOUR CONSCIENCE BE YOUR GUIDE " BASIS. IF INTERESTED IN PARTS OR THE WHOLE THING CALL ME AT 415 806 2457 IT IS RESIDING IN MY BARN IN SEBASTOPOL. JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: 707 824 5640 tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] From nobbc at sonic.net Tue Dec 8 16:24:18 2009 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:24:18 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] December ride Message-ID: <4B1EE022.50209@sonic.net> I suggest we have our ride this month on the 19th. This coming Saturday looks to be wet and wild according to the latest forecast. Also my car stopped pumping gas two days ago and I don't know if I'll have time to fix, adjust or even get the pump points or a new pump if needed (I've been too busy to even look at it!) Anyway, I'm throwing this out at you, feel free to discuss. Ron 58 MGA From gtwincams at gmail.com Tue Dec 8 17:53:45 2009 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:53:45 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] December ride In-Reply-To: <4B1EE022.50209@sonic.net> References: <4B1EE022.50209@sonic.net> Message-ID: <4B1EF519.3020705@gmail.com> That sounds like a good idea, Ron. Looks like it's a pretty sure thing it will be raining, and rain is supposed to start tomorrow, so streets will be pretty wet. Good luck with the fuel pump! Cheers, Greg Tatarian From andypreston at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 8 18:36:19 2009 From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:36:19 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] December ride In-Reply-To: <4B1EE022.50209@sonic.net> Message-ID: <834464.56609.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Ron, Marla and I can't make it this Saturday so next Saturday would be better for us. I'll probably have the GT back on the road by then. I'm working on an inlet manifold leak and leaking carbs. It'll be nice to see the NoBBC folks again. We haven't been able to make many rides this summer. Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:24 PM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: [Nobbc] December ride I suggest we have our ride this month on the 19th. This coming Saturday looks to be wet and wild according to the latest forecast. Also my car stopped pumping gas two days ago and I don't know if I'll have time to fix, adjust or even get the pump points or a new pump if needed (I've been too busy to even look at it!) Anyway, I'm throwing this out at you, feel free to discuss. Ron 58 MGA _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Tue Dec 8 19:20:07 2009 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:20:07 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] December ride In-Reply-To: <4B1EE022.50209@sonic.net> References: <4B1EE022.50209@sonic.net> Message-ID: <95a735e60912081820u5bd131e0oc7b19deb49bfd464@mail.gmail.com> Ron - I have a new set of F/P points you can have. Cheers, Rj On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > I suggest we have our ride this month on the 19th. This coming Saturday > looks to be wet and wild according to the latest forecast. Also my car > stopped pumping gas two days ago and I don't know if I'll have time to fix, > adjust or even get the pump points or a new pump if needed (I've been too > busy to even look at it!) Anyway, I'm throwing this out at you, feel free to > discuss. > > Ron > 58 MGA > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Tue Dec 8 20:08:35 2009 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:08:35 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points Message-ID: <4B1F14B3.7000902@sonic.net> Does anyone know of a local distributor of Lucas fuel pump points (or pumps)? I think they were used in just about any vehicle built in GB. Ron 58 MGA From dawson at authorspublishing.com Tue Dec 8 20:22:44 2009 From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:22:44 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] December ride In-Reply-To: <834464.56609.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <834464.56609.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <96424B51-D67E-4601-B35F-F593DF8E278B@authorspublishing.com> sorry, I can't make the Dec or Jan rides. Dawson On Dec 8, 2009, at 5:36 PM, andy preston wrote: > Ron, Marla and I can't make it this Saturday so next Saturday would be > better for us. I'll probably have the GT back on the road by then. I'm > working on an inlet manifold leak and leaking carbs. It'll be nice to see > the NoBBC folks again. We haven't been able to make many rides this summer. > > Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:24 PM > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: [Nobbc] December ride > > I suggest we have our ride this month on the 19th. This coming Saturday > looks to be wet and wild according to the latest forecast. Also my car > stopped pumping gas two days ago and I don't know if I'll have time to > fix, adjust or even get the pump points or a new pump if needed (I've > been too busy to even look at it!) Anyway, I'm throwing this out at you, > feel free to discuss. > > Ron > 58 MGA > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jkenner at tamcab.com Tue Dec 8 22:11:17 2009 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:11:17 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points In-Reply-To: <4B1F14B3.7000902@sonic.net> References: <4B1F14B3.7000902@sonic.net> Message-ID: <002201ca788e$0a761380$1f623a80$@com> RON, GET A ELECTRIC PUMP AND QUIT WORRYING ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!! JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: 707 824 5640 -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:09 PM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points Does anyone know of a local distributor of Lucas fuel pump points (or pumps)? I think they were used in just about any vehicle built in GB. Ron 58 MGA _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From don at napanet.net Tue Dec 8 23:16:04 2009 From: don at napanet.net (don) Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:16:04 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points In-Reply-To: <002201ca788e$0a761380$1f623a80$@com> References: <4B1F14B3.7000902@sonic.net> <002201ca788e$0a761380$1f623a80$@com> Message-ID: <20091209061806.641A224DBC9@mail.napanet.net> Call Ron Jordan. He ended up with all the parts from Metric and Imports Unlimited (not sure if I got the name right), the two foreign car parts stores that were on Santa Rosa Avenue. Maybe he still has some of that stuff. Used to be able to buy those things easily as they were distributed by Beck Arnley or BAP and everyone just replaced SU points without even thinking twice. Don Don Scott Calistoga CA 2001 Miata SE BRG 1973 MGB GT 1962 MGA Mk II >-----Original Message----- >From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On >Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt >Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:09 PM >To: nobbc at autox.team.net >Subject: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points > >Does anyone know of a local distributor of Lucas fuel pump points (or >pumps)? I think they were used in just about any vehicle built in GB. > >Ron >58 MGA >____________ From gtwincams at gmail.com Tue Dec 8 23:34:00 2009 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:34:00 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points In-Reply-To: <002201ca788e$0a761380$1f623a80$@com> References: <4B1F14B3.7000902@sonic.net> <002201ca788e$0a761380$1f623a80$@com> Message-ID: <4B1F44D8.1090304@gmail.com> That's what he's talking about, John - the points he's looking for are electrical contact points that control the stroke triggering of the pump. Those SU pumps (Ron, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe these pumps are all SU, but perhaps the points are made by Lucas?), like many old fashioned pumps for gasoline or diesel, use contact points to control a solenoid coil, which operates the diaphragm to pump the fluid. That leaves Ron the decision to keep it stock, or go to a more contemporary pump. There are a variety that include those little square jobbies that make that annoying ticking sound (I like the sound of SU pumps, but not those little electronic ones), or small, quiet rotary pumps like those sold by Pierce for use with Webers and other carbs that demand low pressures (1.5-2.5 lb/sq.in.). My guess is Ron wants to stay stock - am I correct? Ron - did you see Robin Jackson's kind email offer of a set of points? He sent it shortly after your initial email. Cheers, Greg Tatarian John Kenner wrote: > RON, > > GET A ELECTRIC PUMP AND QUIT WORRYING ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!! > > JOHN KENNER > > 510 231 6803 P > 415 806 2457 C > 510 231 6805 F > SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: > 707 824 5640 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:09 PM > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points > > Does anyone know of a local distributor of Lucas fuel pump points (or > pumps)? I think they were used in just about any vehicle built in GB. > > Ron > 58 MGA > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Wed Dec 9 00:12:35 2009 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:12:35 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points In-Reply-To: <002201ca788e$0a761380$1f623a80$@com> References: <4B1F14B3.7000902@sonic.net> <002201ca788e$0a761380$1f623a80$@com> Message-ID: <4B1F4DE3.4040905@sonic.net> Errr, the Lucas pump IS electric ;-) John Kenner wrote: > RON, > > GET A ELECTRIC PUMP AND QUIT WORRYING ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!! > > JOHN KENNER > > 510 231 6803 P > 415 806 2457 C > 510 231 6805 F > SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: > 707 824 5640 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:09 PM > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points > > Does anyone know of a local distributor of Lucas fuel pump points (or > pumps)? I think they were used in just about any vehicle built in GB. > > Ron > 58 MGA > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jkenner at tamcab.com Wed Dec 9 07:27:34 2009 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 06:27:34 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points In-Reply-To: <4B1F4DE3.4040905@sonic.net> References: <4B1F14B3.7000902@sonic.net> <002201ca788e$0a761380$1f623a80$@com> <4B1F4DE3.4040905@sonic.net> Message-ID: <000301ca78db$c13e7fb0$43bb7f10$@com> GET A FACEL, THEY SEEM TO BE FAULTLESS JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: 707 824 5640 -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:13 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points Errr, the Lucas pump IS electric ;-) John Kenner wrote: > RON, > > GET A ELECTRIC PUMP AND QUIT WORRYING ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!! > > JOHN KENNER > > 510 231 6803 P > 415 806 2457 C > 510 231 6805 F > SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: > 707 824 5640 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:09 PM > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points > > Does anyone know of a local distributor of Lucas fuel pump points (or > pumps)? I think they were used in just about any vehicle built in GB. > > Ron > 58 MGA > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jkenner at tamcab.com Wed Dec 9 07:31:41 2009 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 06:31:41 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points In-Reply-To: <4B1F44D8.1090304@gmail.com> References: <4B1F14B3.7000902@sonic.net> <002201ca788e$0a761380$1f623a80$@com> <4B1F44D8.1090304@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000401ca78dc$54de1820$fe9a4860$@com> THE ANNOYING TICKING SOUNDING PUMPS ARE THE FACEL. IF YOU MOUNT THEM IN YOUR BOOT YOU WON'T HEAR IT WHILE YOU ARE DRIVING AND THE TICKING SOUND WHEN YOU START UP THE CAR IS SOOTHING BECAUSE IT MEANS YOUR FUEL PUMP IS WORKING. I HAVE ONE IN THE ELAN. JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: 707 824 5640 -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Tatarian Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:34 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points That's what he's talking about, John - the points he's looking for are electrical contact points that control the stroke triggering of the pump. Those SU pumps (Ron, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe these pumps are all SU, but perhaps the points are made by Lucas?), like many old fashioned pumps for gasoline or diesel, use contact points to control a solenoid coil, which operates the diaphragm to pump the fluid. That leaves Ron the decision to keep it stock, or go to a more contemporary pump. There are a variety that include those little square jobbies that make that annoying ticking sound (I like the sound of SU pumps, but not those little electronic ones), or small, quiet rotary pumps like those sold by Pierce for use with Webers and other carbs that demand low pressures (1.5-2.5 lb/sq.in.). My guess is Ron wants to stay stock - am I correct? Ron - did you see Robin Jackson's kind email offer of a set of points? He sent it shortly after your initial email. Cheers, Greg Tatarian John Kenner wrote: > RON, > > GET A ELECTRIC PUMP AND QUIT WORRYING ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!! > > JOHN KENNER > > 510 231 6803 P > 415 806 2457 C > 510 231 6805 F > SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: > 707 824 5640 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:09 PM > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points > > Does anyone know of a local distributor of Lucas fuel pump points (or > pumps)? I think they were used in just about any vehicle built in GB. > > Ron > 58 MGA > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 09:03:33 2009 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:03:33 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Happy Holidays! Message-ID: <4B1FCA55.1020101@gmail.com> This list has been so quiet lately, I guess it shows how busy we have all been. Trish and I wanted to wish you all a very happy holiday season, and a great New Year. Hope to see you on the next drive, or in January. Cheers, Greg Tatarian 1971 Lotus Elan 1974 Triumph TR6 1974 Alfa GTV2000 From gtwincams at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 09:04:56 2009 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:04:56 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points In-Reply-To: <000401ca78dc$54de1820$fe9a4860$@com> References: <4B1F14B3.7000902@sonic.net> <002201ca788e$0a761380$1f623a80$@com> <4B1F44D8.1090304@gmail.com> <000401ca78dc$54de1820$fe9a4860$@com> Message-ID: <4B1FCAA8.5060802@gmail.com> You mean a Facet, John? Facel was a car, as in Facel-Vega... Of course, if you can't hear it when you're driving you won't know when it stops working until your motor stops. ;-) Likewise, you'll know it's working if you can run the motor more than a minute. ;-) ;-) On the plus side, your Facet weighs less than the original mechanical fuel pump, so if you've removed that, the Elan is now lighter! All joking aside, for those members interested in converting to electric fuel pumps, Pierce Manifolds sells both the Facet-type (there are many brands selling this design), as well as a small, low-pressure cylindrical pump that is perfect for Webers, Del'Lortos, etc., and very quiet. The stock number is: *99009.131. ** * Cheers Greg Tatarian From jkenner at tamcab.com Wed Dec 9 10:25:10 2009 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 09:25:10 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points In-Reply-To: <4B1FCAA8.5060802@gmail.com> References: <4B1F14B3.7000902@sonic.net> <002201ca788e$0a761380$1f623a80$@com> <4B1F44D8.1090304@gmail.com> <000401ca78dc$54de1820$fe9a4860$@com> <4B1FCAA8.5060802@gmail.com> Message-ID: <004301ca78f4$90edd720$b2c98560$@com> I'D RATHER HAVE THE FACEL VEGA JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: 707 824 5640 -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Tatarian Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:05 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points You mean a Facet, John? Facel was a car, as in Facel-Vega... Of course, if you can't hear it when you're driving you won't know when it stops working until your motor stops. ;-) Likewise, you'll know it's working if you can run the motor more than a minute. ;-) ;-) On the plus side, your Facet weighs less than the original mechanical fuel pump, so if you've removed that, the Elan is now lighter! All joking aside, for those members interested in converting to electric fuel pumps, Pierce Manifolds sells both the Facet-type (there are many brands selling this design), as well as a small, low-pressure cylindrical pump that is perfect for Webers, Del'Lortos, etc., and very quiet. The stock number is: *99009.131. ** * Cheers Greg Tatarian _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From mvg1 at verizon.net Wed Dec 9 11:18:36 2009 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:18:36 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points References: <4B1F14B3.7000902@sonic.net> <002201ca788e$0a761380$1f623a80$@com> <4B1F44D8.1090304@gmail.com> <000401ca78dc$54de1820$fe9a4860$@com> <4B1FCAA8.5060802@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F2250EAEE24A8CB8A06C41A5DAB42B@mike> Oh boy, this is good stuff. I never had a fuel pump problem in my XK140 drop head, but I seem to recall having to pull over every few minutes to tap on the pump in my 140 fixed head coupe, that was fun. Also, I have never had a problem with the pump in my TR, only a clogged fuel filter bowl once or twice. I have NEVER heard my pump click, hard to start and runs a little rough until she warms up, but she still runs. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Tatarian" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points > You mean a Facet, John? Facel was a car, as in Facel-Vega... > > Of course, if you can't hear it when you're driving you won't know when it > stops working until your motor stops. ;-) Likewise, you'll know it's > working if you can run the motor more than a minute. ;-) ;-) > On the plus side, your Facet weighs less than the original mechanical fuel > pump, so if you've removed that, the Elan is now lighter! > > All joking aside, for those members interested in converting to electric > fuel pumps, Pierce Manifolds sells both the Facet-type (there are many > brands selling this design), as well as a small, low-pressure cylindrical > pump that is perfect for Webers, Del'Lortos, etc., and very quiet. The > stock number is: > *99009.131. > ** > * > Cheers > Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From norman.weinfeld at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 12:09:21 2009 From: norman.weinfeld at gmail.com (Norman S. Weinfeld) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:09:21 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points In-Reply-To: <47F2250EAEE24A8CB8A06C41A5DAB42B@mike> References: <4B1F14B3.7000902@sonic.net> <002201ca788e$0a761380$1f623a80$@com> <4B1F44D8.1090304@gmail.com> <000401ca78dc$54de1820$fe9a4860$@com> <4B1FCAA8.5060802@gmail.com> <47F2250EAEE24A8CB8A06C41A5DAB42B@mike> Message-ID: <320ff8000912091109v56d64938i26d3cec9332f2212@mail.gmail.com> If you never heard it click, I'm guessing it wasn't working. It's not subtle. At least not in my 140 drop-head, nor was it in my 3.8 Mark II from Ancient Times... Norm Weinfeld San Francisco '55 XK140 DHC '56 Imperial Southampton coupe '94 Camaro Z-28 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: > Oh boy, this is good stuff. I never had a fuel pump problem in my XK140 > drop head, but I seem to recall having to pull over every few minutes to tap > on the pump in my 140 fixed head coupe, that was fun. Also, I have never had > a problem with the pump in my TR, only a clogged fuel filter bowl once or > twice. I have NEVER heard my pump click, hard to start and runs a little > rough until she warms up, but she still runs. > > Michael > 64 TR4 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Tatarian" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:04 AM > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points > > > You mean a Facet, John? Facel was a car, as in Facel-Vega... >> >> Of course, if you can't hear it when you're driving you won't know when it >> stops working until your motor stops. ;-) Likewise, you'll know it's >> working if you can run the motor more than a minute. ;-) ;-) >> On the plus side, your Facet weighs less than the original mechanical fuel >> pump, so if you've removed that, the Elan is now lighter! >> >> All joking aside, for those members interested in converting to electric >> fuel pumps, Pierce Manifolds sells both the Facet-type (there are many >> brands selling this design), as well as a small, low-pressure cylindrical >> pump that is perfect for Webers, Del'Lortos, etc., and very quiet. The stock >> number is: >> *99009.131. >> ** >> * >> Cheers >> Greg Tatarian >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From liamof at earthlink.net Wed Dec 9 13:55:31 2009 From: liamof at earthlink.net (liam oflaherty) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:55:31 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points References: <4B1F14B3.7000902@sonic.net><002201ca788e$0a761380$1f623a80$@com> <4B1F44D8.1090304@gmail.com><000401ca78dc$54de1820$fe9a4860$@com> <4B1FCAA8.5060802@gmail.com><47F2250EAEE24A8CB8A06C41A5DAB42B@mike> <320ff8000912091109v56d64938i26d3cec9332f2212@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005601ca7911$f2d94290$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21> Ron, I switched over years ago to a Carter electric fuel pump sold at Napa Auto parts and it is really quiet. Part number: NAPA P74029 for around $60. and its IN STOCK. Same one Barney Gaylord recommends. Liam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman S. Weinfeld" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points > If you never heard it click, I'm guessing it wasn't working. It's not > subtle. At least not in my 140 drop-head, nor was it in my 3.8 Mark II > from > Ancient Times... > > Norm Weinfeld > San Francisco > '55 XK140 DHC > '56 Imperial Southampton coupe > '94 Camaro Z-28 > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: > >> Oh boy, this is good stuff. I never had a fuel pump problem in my XK140 >> drop head, but I seem to recall having to pull over every few minutes to >> tap >> on the pump in my 140 fixed head coupe, that was fun. Also, I have never >> had >> a problem with the pump in my TR, only a clogged fuel filter bowl once or >> twice. I have NEVER heard my pump click, hard to start and runs a little >> rough until she warms up, but she still runs. >> >> Michael >> 64 TR4 >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Tatarian" >> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:04 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points >> >> >> You mean a Facet, John? Facel was a car, as in Facel-Vega... >>> >>> Of course, if you can't hear it when you're driving you won't know when >>> it >>> stops working until your motor stops. ;-) Likewise, you'll know it's >>> working if you can run the motor more than a minute. ;-) ;-) >>> On the plus side, your Facet weighs less than the original mechanical >>> fuel >>> pump, so if you've removed that, the Elan is now lighter! >>> >>> All joking aside, for those members interested in converting to electric >>> fuel pumps, Pierce Manifolds sells both the Facet-type (there are many >>> brands selling this design), as well as a small, low-pressure >>> cylindrical >>> pump that is perfect for Webers, Del'Lortos, etc., and very quiet. The >>> stock >>> number is: >>> *99009.131. >>> ** >>> * >>> Cheers >>> Greg Tatarian >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From wbain at sonic.net Wed Dec 9 14:58:35 2009 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:58:35 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points In-Reply-To: <47F2250EAEE24A8CB8A06C41A5DAB42B@mike> References: <4B1F14B3.7000902@sonic.net> <002201ca788e$0a761380$1f623a80$@com> <4B1F44D8.1090304@gmail.com> <000401ca78dc$54de1820$fe9a4860$@com> <4B1FCAA8.5060802@gmail.com> <47F2250EAEE24A8CB8A06C41A5DAB42B@mike> Message-ID: <33CB14D5-42F1-4D18-9B22-4338051B4613@sonic.net> If you have the stock pump in the TR-4, it has an AC mechanical. They rarely fail. But if they do, you won't get it going again by whacking it with a screwdriver handle. Wendell 59 Morgan On Dec 9, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: > Oh boy, this is good stuff. I never had a fuel pump problem in my > XK140 drop head, but I seem to recall having to pull over every few > minutes to tap on the pump in my 140 fixed head coupe, that was > fun. Also, I have never had a problem with the pump in my TR, only > a clogged fuel filter bowl once or twice. I have NEVER heard my > pump click, hard to start and runs a little rough until she warms > up, but she still runs. > > Michael > 64 TR4 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Tatarian" > > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:04 AM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points > > >> You mean a Facet, John? Facel was a car, as in Facel-Vega... >> >> Of course, if you can't hear it when you're driving you won't know >> when it stops working until your motor stops. ;-) Likewise, >> you'll know it's working if you can run the motor more than a >> minute. ;-) ;-) >> On the plus side, your Facet weighs less than the original >> mechanical fuel pump, so if you've removed that, the Elan is now >> lighter! >> >> All joking aside, for those members interested in converting to >> electric fuel pumps, Pierce Manifolds sells both the Facet-type >> (there are many brands selling this design), as well as a small, >> low-pressure cylindrical pump that is perfect for Webers, >> Del'Lortos, etc., and very quiet. The stock number is: >> *99009.131. >> ** >> * >> Cheers >> Greg Tatarian >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 16:18:31 2009 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Greg Tatarian) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:18:31 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art Message-ID: <4B203047.1020309@gmail.com> Hi Members, I know this is not car-related, but one of our members, John Kenner, is selling some rare concert artwork on eBay. I know we have some old hippies in our group, and many of us have seen some of his posters during the our visits to his car barn, so I thought I'd let you all know in case you are interested. His eBay id is 220fawn. I have no financial interest. Cheers, Greg Tatarian From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 18:05:18 2009 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:05:18 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art In-Reply-To: <4B203047.1020309@gmail.com> References: <4B203047.1020309@gmail.com> Message-ID: <95a735e60912091705h1d169f10mfc7af1fb999f8374@mail.gmail.com> Greg - I am not finding John's sales. (I still have some of the San Francisco artwork and am interested. During that time I taught at College of Marin.) Do you have an item #? Cheers, Rj On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > Hi Members, > I know this is not car-related, but one of our members, John Kenner, is > selling some rare concert artwork on eBay. I know we have some old hippies > in our group, and many of us have seen some of his posters during the our > visits to his car barn, so I thought I'd let you all know in case you are > interested. His eBay id is 220fawn. I have no financial interest. > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From mvg1 at verizon.net Wed Dec 9 18:12:08 2009 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:12:08 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points References: <4B1F14B3.7000902@sonic.net> <002201ca788e$0a761380$1f623a80$@com> <4B1F44D8.1090304@gmail.com> <000401ca78dc$54de1820$fe9a4860$@com> <4B1FCAA8.5060802@gmail.com> <47F2250EAEE24A8CB8A06C41A5DAB42B@mike> <320ff8000912091109v56d64938i26d3cec9332f2212@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5E0B87533BBF47D9B340BCAF119D28BB@mike> Ya know, I had a 59 3.4 Mark I, and I can't remember if the pump in that thing ever clicked either, but it sure ran like hell, one of the best of the MANY british cars I've owned. Rivals my TR, wish I had back. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman S. Weinfeld" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points > If you never heard it click, I'm guessing it wasn't working. It's not > subtle. At least not in my 140 drop-head, nor was it in my 3.8 Mark II > from > Ancient Times... > > Norm Weinfeld > San Francisco > '55 XK140 DHC > '56 Imperial Southampton coupe > '94 Camaro Z-28 > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Mike Gianandrea wrote: > >> Oh boy, this is good stuff. I never had a fuel pump problem in my XK140 >> drop head, but I seem to recall having to pull over every few minutes to >> tap >> on the pump in my 140 fixed head coupe, that was fun. Also, I have never >> had >> a problem with the pump in my TR, only a clogged fuel filter bowl once or >> twice. I have NEVER heard my pump click, hard to start and runs a little >> rough until she warms up, but she still runs. >> >> Michael >> 64 TR4 >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Tatarian" >> To: "North Bay British Car Club" >> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:04 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Lucas pump points >> >> >> You mean a Facet, John? Facel was a car, as in Facel-Vega... >>> >>> Of course, if you can't hear it when you're driving you won't know when >>> it >>> stops working until your motor stops. ;-) Likewise, you'll know it's >>> working if you can run the motor more than a minute. ;-) ;-) >>> On the plus side, your Facet weighs less than the original mechanical >>> fuel >>> pump, so if you've removed that, the Elan is now lighter! >>> >>> All joking aside, for those members interested in converting to electric >>> fuel pumps, Pierce Manifolds sells both the Facet-type (there are many >>> brands selling this design), as well as a small, low-pressure >>> cylindrical >>> pump that is perfect for Webers, Del'Lortos, etc., and very quiet. The >>> stock >>> number is: >>> *99009.131. >>> ** >>> * >>> Cheers >>> Greg Tatarian >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jkenner at tamcab.com Wed Dec 9 19:09:46 2009 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:09:46 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art In-Reply-To: <95a735e60912091705h1d169f10mfc7af1fb999f8374@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B203047.1020309@gmail.com> <95a735e60912091705h1d169f10mfc7af1fb999f8374@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000d01ca793d$d96373e0$8c2a5ba0$@com> ROBIN, TRY THIS FOR EXAMPLE: FILLMORE ERA AVALON POSTER FD-26-OP-1 GRATEFUL DEAD Item Id: 150396252813 JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: 707 824 5640 -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robin Jackson Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:05 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art Greg - I am not finding John's sales. (I still have some of the San Francisco artwork and am interested. During that time I taught at College of Marin.) Do you have an item #? Cheers, Rj On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > Hi Members, > I know this is not car-related, but one of our members, John Kenner, is > selling some rare concert artwork on eBay. I know we have some old hippies > in our group, and many of us have seen some of his posters during the our > visits to his car barn, so I thought I'd let you all know in case you are > interested. His eBay id is 220fawn. I have no financial interest. > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sarto477 at yahoo.com Wed Dec 9 19:10:33 2009 From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:10:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art In-Reply-To: <95a735e60912091705h1d169f10mfc7af1fb999f8374@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <36737.14712.qm@web113510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi, I found his Ebay site by searching by seller 220fawnI think I may list some of my old posters from 68-72. Had no idea of the current values. Sarto --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Robin Jackson wrote: From: Robin Jackson Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art To: "North Bay British Car Club" Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 5:05 PM Greg - I am not finding John's sales. (I still have some of the San Francisco artwork and am interested. During that time I taught at College of Marin.) Do you have an item #? Cheers, Rj On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > Hi Members, > I know this is not car-related, but one of our members, John Kenner, is > selling some rare concert artwork on eBay. I know we have some old hippies > in our group, and many of us have seen some of his posters during the our > visits to his car barn, so I thought I'd let you all know in case you are > interested. His eBay id is 220fawn. I have no financial interest. > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Wed Dec 9 20:14:38 2009 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:14:38 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art In-Reply-To: <000d01ca793d$d96373e0$8c2a5ba0$@com> References: <4B203047.1020309@gmail.com> <95a735e60912091705h1d169f10mfc7af1fb999f8374@mail.gmail.com> <000d01ca793d$d96373e0$8c2a5ba0$@com> Message-ID: <4B20679E.4070409@sonic.net> Heh, like the "bomb proof" package. Can't believe how much these are worth! Ron 58 MGA John Kenner wrote: > ROBIN, > > TRY THIS FOR EXAMPLE: > > FILLMORE ERA AVALON POSTER FD-26-OP-1 GRATEFUL DEAD > > Item Id: 150396252813 > > JOHN KENNER > > 510 231 6803 P > 415 806 2457 C > 510 231 6805 F > SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: > 707 824 5640 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Robin Jackson > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:05 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art > > Greg - I am not finding John's sales. (I still have some of the San > Francisco artwork and am interested. During that time I taught at College of > Marin.) Do you have an item #? > > Cheers, Rj > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > > >>Hi Members, >>I know this is not car-related, but one of our members, John Kenner, is >>selling some rare concert artwork on eBay. I know we have some old hippies >>in our group, and many of us have seen some of his posters during the our >>visits to his car barn, so I thought I'd let you all know in case you are >>interested. His eBay id is 220fawn. I have no financial interest. >>Cheers, >>Greg Tatarian >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc mailing list >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Wed Dec 9 20:31:11 2009 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:31:11 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fuel pump update Message-ID: <4B206B7F.6030504@sonic.net> I finally got a chance to look at the car today and it turns out that the pump is OK (I think). I got no voltage reading at the pump and noticed that the gas gauge was wrong. Checking the generator (dynamo), I found that the connector for the field connection was moving around so I suspect it was intermittantly open or shorting. I moved it around, jammed it and was able to get the pump clicking and the car running but I'll need to remove the dynamo and take it apart to see if it can be fixed. I had a similar problem with the starter in the past where the plastic surround of the power connector was broken allowing intermittant shorting to the case and preventing the starter from working. I always call the fuel pump a Lucas pump but it is an SU. The generator IS a Lucas ;-) I think I bought it at SR Auto parts a few years back. Since so many Brit cars used the same one, it was still stocked and that may still be the case should it prove to be unrepairable. The weather looks like it will be miserable for a while so plenty of time to get repairs done ;-) Ron 58 MGA From bluesson at hotmail.com Thu Dec 10 15:09:32 2009 From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:09:32 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art In-Reply-To: <36737.14712.qm@web113510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <95a735e60912091705h1d169f10mfc7af1fb999f8374@mail.gmail.com>, <36737.14712.qm@web113510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sarto, you'd be much better off contacting the people at ha.com (heritage auctions) in texas and selling in their catalog. You'll get a much better price. Ebay is just bottom feeders these days. They got me $4700+ CLEAR after their commission on a very rare Beatles album. They are total pros and they cater to a $$$ crowd of collectors. I'd NEVER put any serious music memorabilia on ebay...ha.com is far better. Tom > Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:10:33 -0800 > From: sarto477 at yahoo.com > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art > > Hi, I found his Ebay site by searching by seller 220fawnI think I may list > some of my old posters from 68-72. Had no idea of the current values. > Sarto > > --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Robin Jackson wrote: > > From: Robin Jackson > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 5:05 PM > > Greg - I am not finding John's sales. (I still have some of the San > Francisco artwork and am interested. During that time I taught at College of > Marin.) Do you have an item #? > > Cheers, Rj > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > > > Hi Members, > > I know this is not car-related, but one of our members, John Kenner, is > > selling some rare concert artwork on eBay. I know we have some old hippies > > in our group, and many of us have seen some of his posters during the our > > visits to his car barn, so I thought I'd let you all know in case you are > > interested. His eBay id is 220fawn. I have no financial interest. > > Cheers, > > Greg Tatarian > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/videos-tours.aspx?h=7sec&slideid=1 &media=aero-shake-7second&listid=1&stop=1&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-U S:WWL_WIN_7secdemo:122009 From sarto477 at yahoo.com Thu Dec 10 16:16:24 2009 From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:16:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <555248.74818.qm@web113508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Tom, thanks for the connection. i'll check them out. Sarto --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Tom Reier wrote: From: Tom Reier Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art To: nobbc at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 2:09 PM Sarto, you'd be much better off contacting the people at ha.com (heritage auctions) in texas and selling in their catalog. You'll get a much better price. Ebay is just bottom feeders these days. They got me $4700+ CLEAR after their commission on a very rare Beatles album. They are total pros and they cater to a $$$ crowd of collectors. I'd NEVER put any serious music memorabilia on ebay...ha.com is far better. Tom > Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:10:33 -0800 > From: sarto477 at yahoo.com > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art > > Hi, I found his Ebay site by searching by seller 220fawnI think I may list > some of my old posters from 68-72. Had no idea of the current values. > Sarto > > --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Robin Jackson wrote: > > From: Robin Jackson > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 5:05 PM > > Greg - I am not finding John's sales. (I still have some of the San > Francisco artwork and am interested. During that time I taught at College of > Marin.) Do you have an item #? > > Cheers, Rj > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Greg Tatarian wrote: > > > Hi Members, > > I know this is not car-related, but one of our members, John Kenner, is > > selling some rare concert artwork on eBay. I know we have some old hippies > > in our group, and many of us have seen some of his posters during the our > > visits to his car barn, so I thought I'd let you all know in case you are > > interested. His eBay id is 220fawn. I have no financial interest. > > Cheers, > > Greg Tatarian > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/videos-tours.aspx?h=7sec&slideid=1 &media=aero-shake-7second&listid=1&stop=1&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-U S:WWL_WIN_7secdemo:122009 _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From mvg1 at verizon.net Fri Dec 11 13:38:03 2009 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:38:03 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art References: <4B203047.1020309@gmail.com> <95a735e60912091705h1d169f10mfc7af1fb999f8374@mail.gmail.com> <000d01ca793d$d96373e0$8c2a5ba0$@com> <4B20679E.4070409@sonic.net> Message-ID: Surprising! That so many of us from that era turned out as we have, and so many of us have these (wonderful?) british cars to love, drive and maintain.Hummmm. When I was 14 and a freshman in high school, I became a weekend regular at the the Filmore, Filmore West, Winterland, Avalon Ballroom, all of the concerts in the park and other places. I had hundreds of those posters, full sized, the 5" X 8" ones, my buddies and I were on a first name basis with Bill Graham, (Nice Guy). Who knew that all that stuff would be worth anything now. After seeing what Tom got for his Beatle album, it makes wonder how much my posters, or my ticket stub form the Beatles concert at Candlestick would be worth now. And this from a lad who at the age of 19 (1969 waitng to be drafted and sent to Nam) was offered a working cattle ranch on the hills above what is now Silicon Valley FOR FREE. So much for missed opportunities. I offer this example of values from then to now. My dad sold his 1964 aluminum bodied Ferrari 250 Short Wheel Based Coupe in 1968 for $6800. That car could sell at auction now for as much as $5000000.00 (that's 5 million), as has happened at auctions on ESPN. Let me see now, a couple thousand acres of ranch land, convertedn to housing or maybe vineyard property, Who Knew? I guess it dosen't pay to look back Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art > Heh, like the "bomb proof" package. Can't believe how much these are > worth! > > Ron > 58 MGA > > John Kenner wrote: > >> ROBIN, >> >> TRY THIS FOR EXAMPLE: >> >> FILLMORE ERA AVALON POSTER FD-26-OP-1 GRATEFUL DEAD >> >> Item Id: 150396252813 >> >> JOHN KENNER >> >> 510 231 6803 P >> 415 806 2457 C >> 510 231 6805 F >> SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: >> 707 824 5640 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >> On >> Behalf Of Robin Jackson >> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:05 PM >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art >> >> Greg - I am not finding John's sales. (I still have some of the San >> Francisco artwork and am interested. During that time I taught at College >> of >> Marin.) Do you have an item #? >> >> Cheers, Rj >> >> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Greg Tatarian >> wrote: >> >> >>>Hi Members, >>>I know this is not car-related, but one of our members, John Kenner, is >>>selling some rare concert artwork on eBay. I know we have some old >>>hippies >>>in our group, and many of us have seen some of his posters during the our >>>visits to his car barn, so I thought I'd let you all know in case you are >>>interested. His eBay id is 220fawn. I have no financial interest. >>>Cheers, >>>Greg Tatarian >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Nobbc mailing list >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jkenner at tamcab.com Fri Dec 11 14:13:02 2009 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:13:02 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art In-Reply-To: References: <4B203047.1020309@gmail.com> <95a735e60912091705h1d169f10mfc7af1fb999f8374@mail.gmail.com> <000d01ca793d$d96373e0$8c2a5ba0$@com> <4B20679E.4070409@sonic.net> Message-ID: <000301ca7aa6$ba283f00$2e78bd00$@com> Mike, An original Beatles poster from candlestick in good condition would bring at least $12,000.00 since you asked. JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:38 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art Surprising! That so many of us from that era turned out as we have, and so many of us have these (wonderful?) british cars to love, drive and maintain.Hummmm. When I was 14 and a freshman in high school, I became a weekend regular at the the Filmore, Filmore West, Winterland, Avalon Ballroom, all of the concerts in the park and other places. I had hundreds of those posters, full sized, the 5" X 8" ones, my buddies and I were on a first name basis with Bill Graham, (Nice Guy). Who knew that all that stuff would be worth anything now. After seeing what Tom got for his Beatle album, it makes wonder how much my posters, or my ticket stub form the Beatles concert at Candlestick would be worth now. And this from a lad who at the age of 19 (1969 waitng to be drafted and sent to Nam) was offered a working cattle ranch on the hills above what is now Silicon Valley FOR FREE. So much for missed opportunities. I offer this example of values from then to now. My dad sold his 1964 aluminum bodied Ferrari 250 Short Wheel Based Coupe in 1968 for $6800. That car could sell at auction now for as much as $5000000.00 (that's 5 million), as has happened at auctions on ESPN. Let me see now, a couple thousand acres of ranch land, convertedn to housing or maybe vineyard property, Who Knew? I guess it dosen't pay to look back Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art > Heh, like the "bomb proof" package. Can't believe how much these are > worth! > > Ron > 58 MGA > > John Kenner wrote: > >> ROBIN, >> >> TRY THIS FOR EXAMPLE: >> >> FILLMORE ERA AVALON POSTER FD-26-OP-1 GRATEFUL DEAD >> >> Item Id: 150396252813 >> >> JOHN KENNER >> >> 510 231 6803 P >> 415 806 2457 C >> 510 231 6805 F >> SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: >> 707 824 5640 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >> On >> Behalf Of Robin Jackson >> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:05 PM >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art >> >> Greg - I am not finding John's sales. (I still have some of the San >> Francisco artwork and am interested. During that time I taught at College >> of >> Marin.) Do you have an item #? >> >> Cheers, Rj >> >> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Greg Tatarian >> wrote: >> >> >>>Hi Members, >>>I know this is not car-related, but one of our members, John Kenner, is >>>selling some rare concert artwork on eBay. I know we have some old >>>hippies >>>in our group, and many of us have seen some of his posters during the our >>>visits to his car barn, so I thought I'd let you all know in case you are >>>interested. His eBay id is 220fawn. I have no financial interest. >>>Cheers, >>>Greg Tatarian >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Nobbc mailing list >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From mvg1 at verizon.net Fri Dec 11 16:42:26 2009 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:42:26 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art References: <4B203047.1020309@gmail.com> <95a735e60912091705h1d169f10mfc7af1fb999f8374@mail.gmail.com> <000d01ca793d$d96373e0$8c2a5ba0$@com> <4B20679E.4070409@sonic.net> <000301ca7aa6$ba283f00$2e78bd00$@com> Message-ID: <4B8CF3F341E24AA995B97C0E459130A7@mike> Hi John, It was a ticket stubb, not poster, but probably still worth something. I get more bummed out about the property in san jose that would have been worth a great deal, and more importantly, the XK 140 that I sold for $4500, the 140 I sold for $6800, and few other that I wish I had now. Oh well. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kenner" To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art > Mike, > > An original Beatles poster from candlestick in good condition would bring > at > least $12,000.00 > since you asked. > > JOHN KENNER > > 510 231 6803 P > 415 806 2457 C > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea > Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:38 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art > > Surprising! > > That so many of us from that era turned out as we have, and so many of us > have these (wonderful?) british cars to love, drive and maintain.Hummmm. > When I was 14 and a freshman in high school, I became a weekend regular at > the the Filmore, Filmore West, Winterland, Avalon Ballroom, all of the > concerts in the park and other places. > I had hundreds of those posters, full sized, the 5" X 8" ones, my buddies > and I were on a first name basis with Bill Graham, (Nice Guy). Who knew > that > > all that stuff would be worth anything now. After seeing what Tom got for > his Beatle album, it makes wonder how much my posters, or my ticket stub > form the Beatles concert at Candlestick would be worth now. And this from > a > lad who at the age of 19 (1969 waitng to be drafted and sent to Nam) was > offered a working cattle ranch on the hills above what is now Silicon > Valley > > FOR FREE. So much for missed opportunities. I offer this example of values > from then to now. My dad sold his 1964 aluminum bodied Ferrari 250 Short > Wheel Based Coupe in 1968 for $6800. That car could sell at auction now > for > as much as $5000000.00 (that's 5 million), as has happened at auctions on > ESPN. Let me see now, a couple thousand acres of ranch land, convertedn to > housing or maybe vineyard property, Who Knew? I guess it dosen't pay to > look > > back > > Michael > 64 TR4 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Engelhardt" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:14 PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art > > >> Heh, like the "bomb proof" package. Can't believe how much these are >> worth! >> >> Ron >> 58 MGA >> >> John Kenner wrote: >> >>> ROBIN, >>> >>> TRY THIS FOR EXAMPLE: >>> >>> FILLMORE ERA AVALON POSTER FD-26-OP-1 GRATEFUL DEAD >>> >>> Item Id: 150396252813 >>> >>> JOHN KENNER >>> >>> 510 231 6803 P >>> 415 806 2457 C >>> 510 231 6805 F >>> SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: >>> 707 824 5640 >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Robin Jackson >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:05 PM >>> To: North Bay British Car Club >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art >>> >>> Greg - I am not finding John's sales. (I still have some of the San >>> Francisco artwork and am interested. During that time I taught at >>> College > >>> of >>> Marin.) Do you have an item #? >>> >>> Cheers, Rj >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Greg Tatarian >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Hi Members, >>>>I know this is not car-related, but one of our members, John Kenner, is >>>>selling some rare concert artwork on eBay. I know we have some old >>>>hippies >>>>in our group, and many of us have seen some of his posters during the >>>>our >>>>visits to his car barn, so I thought I'd let you all know in case you >>>>are >>>>interested. His eBay id is 220fawn. I have no financial interest. >>>>Cheers, >>>>Greg Tatarian >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Nobbc mailing list >>>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sarto477 at yahoo.com Fri Dec 11 18:40:11 2009 From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:40:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art Message-ID: <691975.76473.qm@web113506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi guys, once in awhile I run across an old guy ( OK, younger than me) who said, when he was in high school, put up Posters in businesses and gave out small hand bills for us, that were reduced full size posters. Mostly in Sonoma county in the late 60s . I wish I had kept most anything from back then, instead I now look in antique stores for what I had given away. I did find a working hula girl lamp that was an original like my father's from 1941. I had given his away 32 years ago at the prompting of my mother and my wife. Sarto --- On Fri, 12/11/09, John Kenner wrote: From: John Kenner Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 1:13 PM Mike, An original Beatles poster from candlestick in good condition would bring at least $12,000.00 since you asked. JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:38 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art Surprising! That so many of us from that era turned out as we have, and so many of us have these (wonderful?) british cars to love, drive and maintain.Hummmm. When I was 14 and a freshman in high school, I became a weekend regular at the the Filmore, Filmore West, Winterland, Avalon Ballroom, all of the concerts in the park and other places. I had hundreds of those posters, full sized, the 5" X 8" ones, my buddies and I were on a first name basis with Bill Graham, (Nice Guy). Who knew that all that stuff would be worth anything now. After seeing what Tom got for his Beatle album, it makes wonder how much my posters, or my ticket stub form the Beatles concert at Candlestick would be worth now. And this from a lad who at the age of 19 (1969 waitng to be drafted and sent to Nam) was offered a working cattle ranch on the hills above what is now Silicon Valley FOR FREE. So much for missed opportunities. I offer this example of values from then to now. My dad sold his 1964 aluminum bodied Ferrari 250 Short Wheel Based Coupe in 1968 for $6800. That car could sell at auction now for as much as $5000000.00 (that's 5 million), as has happened at auctions on ESPN. Let me see now, a couple thousand acres of ranch land, convertedn to housing or maybe vineyard property, Who Knew? I guess it dosen't pay to look back Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art > Heh, like the "bomb proof" package. Can't believe how much these are > worth! > > Ron > 58 MGA > > John Kenner wrote: > >> ROBIN, >> >> TRY THIS FOR EXAMPLE: >> >> FILLMORE ERA AVALON POSTER FD-26-OP-1 GRATEFUL DEAD >> >> Item Id: 150396252813 >> >> JOHN KENNER >> >> 510 231 6803 P >> 415 806 2457 C >> 510 231 6805 F >> SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: >> 707 824 5640 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >> On >> Behalf Of Robin Jackson >> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:05 PM >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art >> >> Greg - I am not finding John's sales. (I still have some of the San >> Francisco artwork and am interested. During that time I taught at College >> of >> Marin.) Do you have an item #? >> >> Cheers, Rj >> >> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Greg Tatarian >> wrote: >> >> >>>Hi Members, >>>I know this is not car-related, but one of our members, John Kenner, is >>>selling some rare concert artwork on eBay. I know we have some old >>>hippies >>>in our group, and many of us have seen some of his posters during the our >>>visits to his car barn, so I thought I'd let you all know in case you are >>>interested. His eBay id is 220fawn. I have no financial interest. >>>Cheers, >>>Greg Tatarian >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Nobbc mailing list >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of DSC00003.JPG] From morrisf at SIDWater.org Fri Dec 11 21:17:22 2009 From: morrisf at SIDWater.org (Frank Morris) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:17:22 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art Message-ID: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E1EB15C2@echo01.SID.LOCAL> What we seem to be speaking of is the collector bug...I think it drives us to drive our vintage cars and collect automobilia stuff. I say hoorah...the sixties were the best and worst of times. I still have a dozen of the handbills that I tacked to my walls in my room...in my room (Beach Boys). ----- Original Message ----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Fri Dec 11 17:40:11 2009 Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art Hi guys, once in awhile I run across an old guy ( OK, younger than me) who said, when he was in high school, put up Posters in businesses and gave out small hand bills for us, that were reduced full size posters. Mostly in Sonoma county in the late 60s . I wish I had kept most anything from back then, instead I now look in antique stores for what I had given away. I did find a working hula girl lamp that was an original like my father's from 1941. I had given his away 32 years ago at the prompting of my mother and my wife. Sarto --- On Fri, 12/11/09, John Kenner wrote: From: John Kenner Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 1:13 PM Mike, An original Beatles poster from candlestick in good condition would bring at least $12,000.00 since you asked. JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:38 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art Surprising! That so many of us from that era turned out as we have, and so many of us have these (wonderful?) british cars to love, drive and maintain.Hummmm. When I was 14 and a freshman in high school, I became a weekend regular at the the Filmore, Filmore West, Winterland, Avalon Ballroom, all of the concerts in the park and other places. I had hundreds of those posters, full sized, the 5" X 8" ones, my buddies and I were on a first name basis with Bill Graham, (Nice Guy). Who knew that all that stuff would be worth anything now. After seeing what Tom got for his Beatle album, it makes wonder how much my posters, or my ticket stub form the Beatles concert at Candlestick would be worth now. And this from a lad who at the age of 19 (1969 waitng to be drafted and sent to Nam) was offered a working cattle ranch on the hills above what is now Silicon Valley FOR FREE. So much for missed opportunities. I offer this example of values from then to now. My dad sold his 1964 aluminum bodied Ferrari 250 Short Wheel Based Coupe in 1968 for $6800. That car could sell at auction now for as much as $5000000.00 (that's 5 million), as has happened at auctions on ESPN. Let me see now, a couple thousand acres of ranch land, convertedn to housing or maybe vineyard property, Who Knew? I guess it dosen't pay to look back Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art > Heh, like the "bomb proof" package. Can't believe how much these are > worth! > > Ron > 58 MGA > > John Kenner wrote: > >> ROBIN, >> >> TRY THIS FOR EXAMPLE: >> >> FILLMORE ERA AVALON POSTER FD-26-OP-1 GRATEFUL DEAD >> >> Item Id: 150396252813 >> >> JOHN KENNER >> >> 510 231 6803 P >> 415 806 2457 C >> 510 231 6805 F >> SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: >> 707 824 5640 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >> On >> Behalf Of Robin Jackson >> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:05 PM >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art >> >> Greg - I am not finding John's sales. (I still have some of the San >> Francisco artwork and am interested. During that time I taught at College >> of >> Marin.) Do you have an item #? >> >> Cheers, Rj >> >> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Greg Tatarian >> wrote: >> >> >>>Hi Members, >>>I know this is not car-related, but one of our members, John Kenner, is >>>selling some rare concert artwork on eBay. I know we have some old >>>hippies >>>in our group, and many of us have seen some of his posters during the our >>>visits to his car barn, so I thought I'd let you all know in case you are >>>interested. His eBay id is 220fawn. I have no financial interest. >>>Cheers, >>>Greg Tatarian >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Nobbc mailing list >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of DSC00003.JPG] _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sarto477 at yahoo.com Fri Dec 11 22:41:12 2009 From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:41:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art In-Reply-To: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E1EB15C2@echo01.SID.LOCAL> Message-ID: <62228.8350.qm@web113517.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi all, it is too bad we can not post pictures here. I did attach a picture of the hula girl lamp and realized it was not shown. Showing our cars or parts in question would be nice. I may be a Johnny come lately on this subject and I assume it must have been talked about earlier. Enjoy the weekend. Sarto --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Frank Morris wrote: From: Frank Morris Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art To: nobbc at autox.team.net Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 8:17 PM What we seem to be speaking of is the collector bug...I think it drives us to drive our vintage cars and collect automobilia stuff. I say hoorah...the sixties were the best and worst of times. I still have a dozen of the handbills that I tacked to my walls in my room...in my room (Beach Boys). ----- Original Message ----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Fri Dec 11 17:40:11 2009 Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art Hi guys, once in awhile I run across an old guy ( OK, younger than me) who said, when he was in high school, put up Posters in businesses and gave out small hand bills for us, that were reduced full size posters. Mostly in Sonoma county in the late 60s . I wish I had kept most anything from back then, instead I now look in antique stores for what I had given away. I did find a working hula girl lamp that was an original like my father's from 1941. I had given his away 32 years ago at the prompting of my mother and my wife. Sarto --- On Fri, 12/11/09, John Kenner wrote: From: John Kenner Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 1:13 PM Mike, An original Beatles poster from candlestick in good condition would bring at least $12,000.00 since you asked. JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:38 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art Surprising! That so many of us from that era turned out as we have, and so many of us have these (wonderful?) british cars to love, drive and maintain.Hummmm. When I was 14 and a freshman in high school, I became a weekend regular at the the Filmore, Filmore West, Winterland, Avalon Ballroom, all of the concerts in the park and other places. I had hundreds of those posters, full sized, the 5" X 8" ones, my buddies and I were on a first name basis with Bill Graham, (Nice Guy). Who knew that all that stuff would be worth anything now. After seeing what Tom got for his Beatle album, it makes wonder how much my posters, or my ticket stub form the Beatles concert at Candlestick would be worth now. And this from a lad who at the age of 19 (1969 waitng to be drafted and sent to Nam) was offered a working cattle ranch on the hills above what is now Silicon Valley FOR FREE. So much for missed opportunities. I offer this example of values from then to now. My dad sold his 1964 aluminum bodied Ferrari 250 Short Wheel Based Coupe in 1968 for $6800. That car could sell at auction now for as much as $5000000.00 (that's 5 million), as has happened at auctions on ESPN. Let me see now, a couple thousand acres of ranch land, convertedn to housing or maybe vineyard property, Who Knew? I guess it dosen't pay to look back Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art > Heh, like the "bomb proof" package. Can't believe how much these are > worth! > > Ron > 58 MGA > > John Kenner wrote: > >> ROBIN, >> >> TRY THIS FOR EXAMPLE: >> >> FILLMORE ERA AVALON POSTER FD-26-OP-1 GRATEFUL DEAD >> >> Item Id: 150396252813 >> >> JOHN KENNER >> >> 510 231 6803 P >> 415 806 2457 C >> 510 231 6805 F >> SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: >> 707 824 5640 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >> On >> Behalf Of Robin Jackson >> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:05 PM >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art >> >> Greg - I am not finding John's sales. (I still have some of the San >> Francisco artwork and am interested. During that time I taught at College >> of >> Marin.) Do you have an item #? >> >> Cheers, Rj >> >> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Greg Tatarian >> wrote: >> >> >>>Hi Members, >>>I know this is not car-related, but one of our members, John Kenner, is >>>selling some rare concert artwork on eBay. I know we have some old >>>hippies >>>in our group, and many of us have seen some of his posters during the our >>>visits to his car barn, so I thought I'd let you all know in case you are >>>interested. His eBay id is 220fawn. I have no financial interest. >>>Cheers, >>>Greg Tatarian >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Nobbc mailing list >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of DSC00003.JPG] _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gsb1159 at pacbell.net Fri Dec 11 23:26:37 2009 From: gsb1159 at pacbell.net (Greg Badano) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:26:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art In-Reply-To: <188DC8EEED893B47A9E26E00520E06E1EB15C2@echo01.SID.LOCAL> Message-ID: <593079.99868.qm@web180008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In the early 70's I bought a roll of around 15 of these posters from a kid around the block that was a couple of years older than me (I was 11 or 12) for $5.00. I thought they were very cool and had them thumb tacked all over the walls and ceiling of my bedroom. At some point in high school I took the posters down, rolled them up again, and put them in the closet after deciding against throwing them away. I am happy to say they are with me to this day and I have a number of them framed and hanging in my office. If only I had held on to my Batman 3-D comic book and matching 3-D glasses! Greg --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Frank Morris wrote: From: Frank Morris Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art To: nobbc at autox.team.net Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 8:17 PM What we seem to be speaking of is the collector bug...I think it drives us to drive our vintage cars and collect automobilia stuff. I say hoorah...the sixties were the best and worst of times. I still have a dozen of the handbills that I tacked to my walls in my room...in my room (Beach Boys). ----- Original Message ----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Fri Dec 11 17:40:11 2009 Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art Hi guys, once in awhile I run across an old guy ( OK, younger than me) who said, when he was in high school, put up Posters in businesses and gave out small hand bills for us, that were reduced full size posters. Mostly in Sonoma county in the late 60s . I wish I had kept most anything from back then, instead I now look in antique stores for what I had given away. I did find a working hula girl lamp that was an original like my father's from 1941. I had given his away 32 years ago at the prompting of my mother and my wife. Sarto --- On Fri, 12/11/09, John Kenner wrote: From: John Kenner Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 1:13 PM Mike, An original Beatles poster from candlestick in good condition would bring at least $12,000.00 since you asked. JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:38 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art Surprising! That so many of us from that era turned out as we have, and so many of us have these (wonderful?) british cars to love, drive and maintain.Hummmm. When I was 14 and a freshman in high school, I became a weekend regular at the the Filmore, Filmore West, Winterland, Avalon Ballroom, all of the concerts in the park and other places. I had hundreds of those posters, full sized, the 5" X 8" ones, my buddies and I were on a first name basis with Bill Graham, (Nice Guy). Who knew that all that stuff would be worth anything now. After seeing what Tom got for his Beatle album, it makes wonder how much my posters, or my ticket stub form the Beatles concert at Candlestick would be worth now. And this from a lad who at the age of 19 (1969 waitng to be drafted and sent to Nam) was offered a working cattle ranch on the hills above what is now Silicon Valley FOR FREE. So much for missed opportunities. I offer this example of values from then to now. My dad sold his 1964 aluminum bodied Ferrari 250 Short Wheel Based Coupe in 1968 for $6800. That car could sell at auction now for as much as $5000000.00 (that's 5 million), as has happened at auctions on ESPN. Let me see now, a couple thousand acres of ranch land, convertedn to housing or maybe vineyard property, Who Knew? I guess it dosen't pay to look back Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art > Heh, like the "bomb proof" package. Can't believe how much these are > worth! > > Ron > 58 MGA > > John Kenner wrote: > >> ROBIN, >> >> TRY THIS FOR EXAMPLE: >> >> FILLMORE ERA AVALON POSTER FD-26-OP-1 GRATEFUL DEAD >> >> Item Id: 150396252813 >> >> JOHN KENNER >> >> 510 231 6803 P >> 415 806 2457 C >> 510 231 6805 F >> SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE: >> 707 824 5640 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >> On >> Behalf Of Robin Jackson >> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:05 PM >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Hippie concert art >> >> Greg - I am not finding John's sales. (I still have some of the San >> Francisco artwork and am interested. During that time I taught at College >> of >> Marin.) Do you have an item #? >> >> Cheers, Rj >> >> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Greg Tatarian >> wrote: >> >> >>>Hi Members, >>>I know this is not car-related, but one of our members, John Kenner, is >>>selling some rare concert artwork on eBay. I know we have some old >>>hippies >>>in our group, and many of us have seen some of his posters during the our >>>visits to his car barn, so I thought I'd let you all know in case you are >>>interested. His eBay id is 220fawn. I have no financial interest. >>>Cheers, >>>Greg Tatarian >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Nobbc mailing list >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of DSC00003.JPG] _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Sun Dec 13 20:21:54 2009 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:21:54 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] "An Education"- film at Rialto In-Reply-To: References: <6.0.3.0.1.20091120234621.040b13b8@pop.napanet.net> Message-ID: <95a735e60912131921w4c931690xb2548dab78f7db32@mail.gmail.com> Just returned home after viewing this film. At first I thought the Bristol was a Jowett of a type I had never known. When I heard it referred to as a Bristol, I thought "oh yes, a Bristol". I remember the design of the Arnaualt Bristols I raced with my Morgan in the late 1950's. One of the characters refered to it as a sports car. Hardly. It was more like an ugly/beautiful ruby in the Queens's crown. The TR-3 was the only sports car I saw; but the wonderful array of Minis there lives a woodie like the one used in the film) that lives in Calistoga. Such an array of wonderful old lumpy Rovers! And, by the way, from a former theater arts teacher, this was such a fine film... On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:31 AM, John Vetrano wrote: > On 11/21/09 12:02 AM, "don" wrote: > Great film, best of the year along with "Inglorious Bastards" so far my > favorites. "An Education" Truly captures the era most of us lived through > and oh those cars! > > John Vetrano > 69 E Type > > > > I sent this email to a couple of friends of mine, then realized that > maybe > > the British cars in the film would make it of interest to those in the > > NOBBC. The cars of early '60s Britain are certainly fun to see on the > big > > screen, but the film is great in its own right. Getting a bonus you > might > > say; sorta like watching Shadow of a Doubt and being able to see the > scenes > > of Santa Rosa circa 1940, and being able to enjoy a great film story as a > > bonus. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > We just got back from seeing this movie in Santa Rosa at the Rialto. > It's > > the best film I have seen in a long, long time. Title of the movie is > "An > > Education." It's set in Britain in the early '60s; is a coming-of-age > > story of a young girl. The lead role is played by a lovely young actress > > who reminded me of Audrey Hepburn. Her smile and her expressions are as > > communicative as her speaking lines. Amazing- I loved it!. The cars, > sets, > > and music score are all first-rate. The camera work is great as > > well. Hard to fault this film. > > > > A Bristol automobile is the featured car, and there are co-star cars like > > TR3s, Morris Minors, and numerous other cars of the era. > > > > http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/an_education/?critic=creamcrop > > > > http://www.sonyclassics.com/aneducation/ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > Don Scott > > 707 942 0546 > > don at napanet.net > > 2001 Miata SE BRG > > 1967 TR4A > > 1962 MGA Mk II > > 1973 MGB GT > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From don at napanet.net Sun Dec 13 21:21:31 2009 From: don at napanet.net (don) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:21:31 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] "An Education"- film at Rialto In-Reply-To: <95a735e60912131921w4c931690xb2548dab78f7db32@mail.gmail.co m> References: <6.0.3.0.1.20091120234621.040b13b8@pop.napanet.net> <95a735e60912131921w4c931690xb2548dab78f7db32@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091214042442.3944624DD49@mail.napanet.net> Anyone who lives in or near Santa Rosa, go see it as it's probably going to be done at the theatre soon. Great movie and interesting cars. Don At 07:21 PM 12/13/2009, Robin Jackson wrote: >Just returned home after viewing this film. At first I thought the Bristol >was a Jowett of a type I had never known. When I heard it referred to as a >Bristol, I thought "oh yes, a Bristol". I remember the design of the >Arnaualt Bristols I raced with my Morgan in the late 1950's. One of the >characters refered to it as a sports car. Hardly. It was more like an >ugly/beautiful ruby in the Queens's crown. The TR-3 was the only sports car >I saw; but the wonderful array of Minis there lives a woodie like the one >used in the film) that lives in Calistoga. Such an array of wonderful old >lumpy Rovers! And, by the way, from a former theater arts teacher, this was >such a fine film... > >On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:31 AM, John Vetrano wrote: > > > On 11/21/09 12:02 AM, "don" wrote: > > Great film, best of the year along with "Inglorious Bastards" so far my > > favorites. "An Education" Truly captures the era most of us lived through > > and oh those cars! > > > > John Vetrano > > 69 E Type > > > > > > > I sent this email to a couple of friends of mine, then realized that > > maybe > > > the British cars in the film would make it of interest to those in the > > > NOBBC. The cars of early '60s Britain are certainly fun to see on the > > big > > > screen, but the film is great in its own right. Getting a bonus you > > might > > > say; sorta like watching Shadow of a Doubt and being able to see the > > scenes > > > of Santa Rosa circa 1940, and being able to enjoy a great film story as a > > > bonus. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > We just got back from seeing this movie in Santa Rosa at the Rialto. > > It's > > > the best film I have seen in a long, long time. Title of the movie is > > "An > > > Education." It's set in Britain in the early '60s; is a coming-of-age > > > story of a young girl. The lead role is played by a lovely young actress > > > who reminded me of Audrey Hepburn. Her smile and her expressions are as > > > communicative as her speaking lines. Amazing- I loved it!. The cars, > > sets, > > > and music score are all first-rate. The camera work is great as > > > well. Hard to fault this film. > > > > > > A Bristol automobile is the featured car, and there are co-star cars like > > > TR3s, Morris Minors, and numerous other cars of the era. > > > > > > http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/an_education/?critic=creamcrop > > > > > > http://www.sonyclassics.com/aneducation/ > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > Don Scott > > > 707 942 0546 > > > don at napanet.net > > > 2001 Miata SE BRG > > > 1967 TR4A > > > 1962 MGA Mk II > > > 1973 MGB GT > > > ______________________________________ From sirplb at aol.com Mon Dec 14 18:56:57 2009 From: sirplb at aol.com (sirplb at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:56:57 -0500 Subject: [Nobbc] Happy Holidays! In-Reply-To: <4B1FCA55.1020101@gmail.com> References: <4B1FCA55.1020101@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CC4B4104989131-7094-5AB4@webmail-m010.sysops.aol.com> All, Happy Holidays to one and all! Hopefully more driving in 2010! Cheers, Pat & Vivian 74 JH From nobbc at sonic.net Wed Dec 16 19:56:46 2009 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:56:46 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday is looking good Message-ID: <4B299DEE.3080608@sonic.net> The weather forecast for Saturday looks to be outstanding...warm and sunny. A good day for our December ride. We'll meet at NOON in the parking lot of Bad Ass Coffee corner of Old Red and Mark West Springs. As usual, the route will be determined by the group present unless someone wants to suggest something here. Ron 58 MGA From DPaige at srcity.org Fri Dec 18 09:13:15 2009 From: DPaige at srcity.org (Paige, Dean) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:13:15 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] FW: Hosting Account Update Message-ID: Tcherek, Can you take care of these changes please. Thanks and have a great Christmas and a wonderful Ney Year! 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Turned out to be a nice day over in Napa. Thanks, Ron, for letting me take the lead. Not sure it was up to your typical and exemplary standards, but I don't think we lost anyone. Merry Christmas everyone. For those not celebrating Christmas, enjoy the holidays of your choosing. Dan 66 MGB -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:57 PM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday is looking good The weather forecast for Saturday looks to be outstanding...warm and sunny. A good day for our December ride. We'll meet at NOON in the parking lot of Bad Ass Coffee corner of Old Red and Mark West Springs. As usual, the route will be determined by the group present unless someone wants to suggest something here. Ron 58 MGA _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Tue Dec 22 12:25:35 2009 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:25:35 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday is looking good In-Reply-To: References: <4B299DEE.3080608@sonic.net> Message-ID: <4B311D2F.3040509@sonic.net> You did an excellent job Dan...in fact, I'm so tired of leading rides you can do it all the time ;-) It was a great ride, beautiful weather and scenery. The ride over Oakville/Trinity was a blast as always! Thanks Dan! Ron 58 MGA Dan wrote: > Fun ride on Saturday. Turned out to be a nice day over in Napa. Thanks, > Ron, for letting me take the lead. Not sure it was up to your typical and > exemplary standards, but I don't think we lost anyone. Merry Christmas > everyone. For those not celebrating Christmas, enjoy the holidays of your > choosing. > > Dan > 66 MGB From nobbc at sonic.net Tue Dec 22 12:30:39 2009 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:30:39 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] New Years Ride? Message-ID: <4B311E5F.9000907@sonic.net> First of all, Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to all our members and family. In the past we occasionally scheduled a ride on New Years Day, first ride of the year. Is anybody interested in doing it this (next?) year weather permitting? Ron 58 MGA From dodea495 at hotmail.com Tue Dec 22 15:45:35 2009 From: dodea495 at hotmail.com (Dennis O'Dea) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:45:35 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] New Years Ride? In-Reply-To: <4B311E5F.9000907@sonic.net> References: <4B311E5F.9000907@sonic.net> Message-ID: If we don't start the drive too early Sheryl, and I should be able make it. Weather permitting see you Friday 1/1/2010. Dennis & Sheryl, 2x 76 MGB's > Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:30:39 -0800 > From: nobbc at sonic.net > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: [Nobbc] New Years Ride? > > First of all, Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to all our members and > family. In the past we occasionally scheduled a ride on New Years Day, > first ride of the year. Is anybody interested in doing it this (next?) > year weather permitting? > > Ron > 58 MGA > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Tue Dec 22 17:04:29 2009 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:04:29 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] New Years Ride? In-Reply-To: References: <4B311E5F.9000907@sonic.net> Message-ID: <4B315E8D.2090204@sonic.net> Well we can firm it up next week but I imagine a noon start would be good. Ron 58 MGA Dennis O'Dea wrote: > If we don't start the drive too early Sheryl, and I should be able make it. > Weather permitting see you Friday 1/1/2010. > > Dennis & Sheryl, > 2x 76 MGB's > > >>Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:30:39 -0800 >>From: nobbc at sonic.net >>To: nobbc at autox.team.net >>Subject: [Nobbc] New Years Ride? >> >>First of all, Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to all our members and >>family. In the past we occasionally scheduled a ride on New Years Day, >>first ride of the year. Is anybody interested in doing it this (next?) >>year weather permitting? >> >>Ron >>58 MGA >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc mailing list >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From home at drummondlaw.com Tue Dec 22 18:47:06 2009 From: home at drummondlaw.com (Dan) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:47:06 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] New Years Ride? In-Reply-To: <4B311E5F.9000907@sonic.net> References: <4B311E5F.9000907@sonic.net> Message-ID: <36A074D4CA3A4E38BF269D1876CC1A39@dandebbie> A New Years Day drive sounds like fun. Count me in. If the weather is crummy, I'll bring the Jag. High, dry and warm. Dan 66 MGB -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:31 AM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: [Nobbc] New Years Ride? First of all, Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to all our members and family. In the past we occasionally scheduled a ride on New Years Day, first ride of the year. Is anybody interested in doing it this (next?) year weather permitting? Ron 58 MGA _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From wkilch at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 22 21:31:21 2009 From: wkilch at sbcglobal.net (Walter & Gwen Kilchherr) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:31:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] New Years Ride? In-Reply-To: <4B315E8D.2090204@sonic.net> Message-ID: <525225.53616.qm@web81706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Ron, Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to you. Also, thanks for a great year of leading us members around. 1-1-10 sounds good, I think I can make it. Cheers, Walter --- On Tue, 12/22/09, Ron Engelhardt wrote: From: Ron Engelhardt Subject: Re: [Nobbc] New Years Ride? To: "North Bay British Car Club" Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 4:04 PM Well we can firm it up next week but I imagine a noon start would be good. Ron 58 MGA Dennis O'Dea wrote: > If we don't start the drive too early Sheryl, and I should be able make it. > Weather permitting see you Friday 1/1/2010. > > Dennis & Sheryl, > 2x 76 MGB's > > >>Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:30:39 -0800 >>From: nobbc at sonic.net >>To: nobbc at autox.team.net >>Subject: [Nobbc] New Years Ride? >> >>First of all, Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to all our members and >>family. In the past we occasionally scheduled a ride on New Years Day, >>first ride of the year. Is anybody interested in doing it this (next?) >>year weather permitting? >> >>Ron >>58 MGA >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc mailing list >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jkenner at tamcab.com Fri Dec 25 15:49:43 2009 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 14:49:43 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] ANOTHER SPITFIRE Message-ID: <001b01ca85b4$8dcf9700$a96ec500$@com> MERRY CHRISTMAS CLUB!!!!!!!!! HERE IS ANOTHER AND HOPEFULLY LAST CHANCE FOR SPITFIRE PARTS. I AM NOW DEMOLISHING A 1976 SPITFIRE 1500 AND ALL I WANT IS THE TRANSMISSION. ANYONE OUT THERE NEED BODY PARTS, SUSPENSION, ANYTHING? I ENDED UP GIVING THE LAST SPITFIRE BODY TO PATRICK AMIOT THE SCULPTOR. OF COURSE I SAVED THE BONNET FOR RICH BECAUSE HE ASKED ME TO. RICH, WHEN ARE YOU PICKING IT UP? ANY TAKERS PLEASE CALL ME AT 415 806 2457 OR EMAIL ME OFF THE LIST AT JKENNNER at TAMCAB.COM. JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] From jkenner at tamcab.com Sat Dec 26 17:57:46 2009 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 16:57:46 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Advice needed Message-ID: <001901ca868f$9bc51430$d34f3c90$@com> Hi Club, I bought a 1976 Spitfire with an overdrive transmission. I want to put the transmission in my 1964 Herald. But before I do it would be nice to make sure it works. The Spitfire isn't running and won't be so I can't take it for a test drive. Does anyone know of someone who knows about old Triumph overdrive trannys who could take a look at this one and rebuild it if need be? Thanks and Happy Holidays JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] From mvg1 at verizon.net Sat Dec 26 18:47:33 2009 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:47:33 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Advice needed References: <001901ca868f$9bc51430$d34f3c90$@com> Message-ID: <3BFD2EA6CC464C1E8B3DBBD8EC59BA65@mike> Hi John, Two things, first I had tranny in my daughter's GMC Jimmy rebuilt at Vaugh's transmission in Santa Rosa, a grand several months ago.The owner has been around for a long time and gets good recommendations from the owner of the THE REAR END SHOP, and the car has run fine since, but he failed to put in a a new torque converter which is standard procedure when replacing or rebuilding a tranny, I got it fixed no problem, I just didn't like it. he gave me a price of $650 to rebuild my TR 4 tranny, which I am going to do, but I will be very careful to make sure he does a thorough job. Second, I believe you can get rebuilt trannies from Moss, or better yet, Wayne's Triumuph Only in Stockton, 209-939-1020, www.triumphsonly.com. I bought parts from them recently, they sell the same stuff as Moss using Moss part numbers for 15% less than Moss. I bought a water pump and a couple of other items that they were out of stock on, so they took my money, and ran the order through Moss at the discount, the parts came from Moss, and everything was hunky dory. If you buy through them, you should get a good tranny and a warranty. Good Luck. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kenner" To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 4:57 PM Subject: [Nobbc] Advice needed > Hi Club, > > > > I bought a 1976 Spitfire with an overdrive transmission. I want to put the > transmission in my 1964 Herald. > > But before I do it would be nice to make sure it works. The Spitfire isn't > running and won't be so I can't take it for a test drive. > > Does anyone know of someone who knows about old Triumph overdrive trannys > who could take a look at this one and rebuild it if need be? > > > > Thanks and Happy Holidays > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > > tamalpais_s > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From rlmossholder at comcast.net Sat Dec 26 19:40:39 2009 From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 02:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Nobbc] ANOTHER SPITFIRE In-Reply-To: <001b01ca85b4$8dcf9700$a96ec500$@com> Message-ID: <609489191.2397731261881639083.JavaMail.root@sz0108a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Hi John, Thanks for saving it for me. I'm in LA for another day, I can pick it up some time next week. There is a lot going on, I have a funeral to attend on Monday and I need to visit my Dad who is going in for a surgery this week as well. Cheers, Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kenner" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 2:49:43 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Nobbc] ANOTHER SPITFIRE MERRY CHRISTMAS CLUB!!!!!!!!! B HERE IS ANOTHER AND HOPEFULLY LAST CHANCE FOR SPITFIRE PARTS. I AM NOW DEMOLISHING A 1976 SPITFIRE 1500 AND ALL I WANT IS THE TRANSMISSION. ANYONE OUT THERE NEED BODY PARTS, SUSPENSION, ANYTHING? B I ENDED UP GIVING THE LAST SPITFIRE BODY TO PATRICK AMIOT THE SCULPTOR. OF COURSE I SAVED THE BONNET FOR RICH BECAUSE HE ASKED ME TO. B RICH, WHEN ARE YOU PICKING IT UP? B ANY TAKERS PLEASE CALL ME AT 415 806 2457 OR EMAIL ME OFF THE LIST AT JKENNNER at TAMCAB.COM. B B B JOHN KENNER B 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F B B tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From riprock99 at comcast.net Sat Dec 26 23:38:50 2009 From: riprock99 at comcast.net (Scott Irwin) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:38:50 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Advice needed References: <001901ca868f$9bc51430$d34f3c90$@com> Message-ID: <60AB7C9054744D9DB856DE11A3A0BCC7@budda> I changed my 1965 spitfire gear box for an overdrive unit and I just want you to be aware they are longer and you will need to use a different shorter drive shaft. The 1976 gear box will also have synchro first gear as well as slighly different ratios, but top will still be 1:1 out of OD. The next warning, which I'm not sure applies to that later gearbox/OD unit, is that the shift remote linkage has a switch mounted that prevents the OD from switching in unless 3rd or top are selected. Reversing while OD is engaged can break the OD while switching out of OD in 1st or 2nd can cause the engine to over rev. Oh yeah, you'll have to notch the tunnel back to get access to the U-joint bolts. There was a cover plate added for the spitfire. Scott 1965 Spitfire ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kenner" To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 4:57 PM Subject: [Nobbc] Advice needed > Hi Club, > > > > I bought a 1976 Spitfire with an overdrive transmission. I want to put the > transmission in my 1964 Herald. > > But before I do it would be nice to make sure it works. The Spitfire isn't > running and won't be so I can't take it for a test drive. > > Does anyone know of someone who knows about old Triumph overdrive trannys > who could take a look at this one and rebuild it if need be? > > > > Thanks and Happy Holidays > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > > tamalpais_s > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From markdarley at mac.com Sun Dec 27 09:49:41 2009 From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:49:41 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] new hard brake lines have wrong thread Message-ID: <7FFEBB84-8FAD-4765-9241-AF97B57BC846@mac.com> Has anyone had this problem? Restoring 1958 MGA from good original condition: I ordered all new brake lines and slaves from Moss. The thread on ther pipes fits the new front slaves they supplied, but not the three or five way fittings, or the bleed connection on the rear slaves. Did they change the thread from the original so I have to buy replacement parts for everything that connects to the hard brake lines?! Mark Mark Darley markdarley at mac.com 415 381 5452 From andypreston at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 27 18:07:14 2009 From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:07:14 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] new hard brake lines have wrong thread In-Reply-To: <7FFEBB84-8FAD-4765-9241-AF97B57BC846@mac.com> Message-ID: <414867.5744.qm@smtp106.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Mark, I can't answer your question but I'm very surprised that they don't fit the three way and five way fittings. This is one reason that when I restored my 60 MGA Coupe last year I purchased as much as I could from Scarborough Faire in RI. I don't know if you purchased parts from them before but I think they are the best quality and service. The owner is Cecelia and she's the most knowledgeable person I've ever spoken to on MGAs. If you buy from her you are dealing with someone who knows what they are talking about and not some sales person who doesn't know anything. I purchased all new hard lines, brake clutch and fuel, from SF with the threaded fittings on the both ends. They fitted my 3 way and 5 way fittings, my existing MC, front calipers and rear brake cylinders. If I was you I'd give Cecelia a call at SF, 1 888 647 2787, and ask her your question. She'll be more than happy to answer. BTW their stuff is about 10% cheaper than Moss and better quality, she tries to buy parts made in the UK most of the time. Her number is Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Darley Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 8:50 AM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: [Nobbc] new hard brake lines have wrong thread Has anyone had this problem? Restoring 1958 MGA from good original condition: I ordered all new brake lines and slaves from Moss. The thread on ther pipes fits the new front slaves they supplied, but not the three or five way fittings, or the bleed connection on the rear slaves. Did they change the thread from the original so I have to buy replacement parts for everything that connects to the hard brake lines?! Mark Mark Darley markdarley at mac.com 415 381 5452 _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From markdarley at mac.com Sun Dec 27 18:47:24 2009 From: markdarley at mac.com (Mark Darley) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:47:24 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] new hard brake lines have wrong thread In-Reply-To: <414867.5744.qm@smtp106.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <414867.5744.qm@smtp106.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Andy, Thanks for the advice. I think Liam may have hit on the answer. He says he thinks that when these cars were built (1958) they were making the transition from Whitworth threads to standard sae threads. So I may have Whitworth on the car and Moss is supplying the sae. Maybe by the year of your car , '60, they had made the conversion. Sounds like after calling Moss tomorrow, I should call Cecilia at Scarborough Faire. By the way, as a Brit I am heartened to hear that you think parts manufactured in Britain are better quality. My thought entirely when I drove a BSA motorcycle and sidecar....I had a sticker that said: "The parts that drop off this vehicle are manufactured to the highest British standards"! Hopefully see you on the road in about a month.... Mark Mark Darley markdarley at mac.com 415 381 5452 On Dec 27, 2009, at 5:07 PM, andy preston wrote: > Mark, I can't answer your question but I'm very surprised that they > don't > fit the three way and five way fittings. This is one reason that > when I > restored my 60 MGA Coupe last year I purchased as much as I could from > Scarborough Faire in RI. I don't know if you purchased parts from > them > before but I think they are the best quality and service. The owner > is > Cecelia and she's the most knowledgeable person I've ever spoken to > on MGAs. > If you buy from her you are dealing with someone who knows what they > are > talking about and not some sales person who doesn't know anything. > > I purchased all new hard lines, brake clutch and fuel, from SF with > the > threaded fittings on the both ends. They fitted my 3 way and 5 way > fittings, my existing MC, front calipers and rear brake cylinders. > If I > was you I'd give Cecelia a call at SF, 1 888 647 2787, and ask her > your > question. She'll be more than happy to answer. BTW their stuff is > about > 10% cheaper than Moss and better quality, she tries to buy parts > made in the > UK most of the time. Her number is > > Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > ] On > Behalf Of Mark Darley > Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 8:50 AM > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: [Nobbc] new hard brake lines have wrong thread > > Has anyone had this problem? > > Restoring 1958 MGA from good original condition: > > I ordered all new brake lines and slaves from Moss. The thread on > ther pipes fits the new front slaves they supplied, but not the three > or five way fittings, or the bleed connection on the rear slaves. > Did they change the thread from the original so I have to buy > replacement parts for everything that connects to the hard brake > lines?! > > Mark > > Mark Darley > markdarley at mac.com > 415 381 5452 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From mvg1 at verizon.net Sun Dec 27 16:45:05 2009 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:45:05 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Advice needed References: <001901ca868f$9bc51430$d34f3c90$@com> Message-ID: <298AC4F0E12E4520B5F7BAD15CA81559@mike> Hi John, Waynes's Triumphs Only in Stockton has rebuilt spitfire trannies for $845.00 Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kenner" To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 4:57 PM Subject: [Nobbc] Advice needed > Hi Club, > > > > I bought a 1976 Spitfire with an overdrive transmission. I want to put the > transmission in my 1964 Herald. > > But before I do it would be nice to make sure it works. The Spitfire isn't > running and won't be so I can't take it for a test drive. > > Does anyone know of someone who knows about old Triumph overdrive trannys > who could take a look at this one and rebuild it if need be? > > > > Thanks and Happy Holidays > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > > tamalpais_s > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From mvg1 at verizon.net Mon Dec 28 13:38:24 2009 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:38:24 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Advice needed References: <001901ca868f$9bc51430$d34f3c90$@com> Message-ID: Hi John, I just spoke to James Vaugh at Vaugh's Transmission about something I want to do, and I aske d about your problem. He will open, inspect your spitfire tranny and give you an estimate of the condition for nothing. He's a good guy. 50 Maxwell Court, Santa Rosa. 889-0923 Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kenner" To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 4:57 PM Subject: [Nobbc] Advice needed > Hi Club, > > > > I bought a 1976 Spitfire with an overdrive transmission. I want to put the > transmission in my 1964 Herald. > > But before I do it would be nice to make sure it works. The Spitfire isn't > running and won't be so I can't take it for a test drive. > > Does anyone know of someone who knows about old Triumph overdrive trannys > who could take a look at this one and rebuild it if need be? > > > > Thanks and Happy Holidays > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > > tamalpais_s > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jkenner at tamcab.com Mon Dec 28 17:00:09 2009 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:00:09 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Advice needed In-Reply-To: References: <001901ca868f$9bc51430$d34f3c90$@com> Message-ID: <003f01ca8819$e3ae6ea0$ab0b4be0$@com> THANKS MIKE JOHN KENNER 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 12:38 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Advice needed Hi John, I just spoke to James Vaugh at Vaugh's Transmission about something I want to do, and I aske d about your problem. He will open, inspect your spitfire tranny and give you an estimate of the condition for nothing. He's a good guy. 50 Maxwell Court, Santa Rosa. 889-0923 Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kenner" To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 4:57 PM Subject: [Nobbc] Advice needed > Hi Club, > > > > I bought a 1976 Spitfire with an overdrive transmission. I want to put the > transmission in my 1964 Herald. > > But before I do it would be nice to make sure it works. The Spitfire isn't > running and won't be so I can't take it for a test drive. > > Does anyone know of someone who knows about old Triumph overdrive trannys > who could take a look at this one and rebuild it if need be? > > > > Thanks and Happy Holidays > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > 510 231 6803 P > > 415 806 2457 C > > 510 231 6805 F > > > > > > tamalpais_s > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Thu Dec 31 12:34:03 2009 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:34:03 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010 Message-ID: <4B3CFCAB.1050007@sonic.net> I want to wish everyone a happy new year. The club has done all right this year and looks good for 2010. I have 142 names on the club roster although many are probably inactive. A more accurate count might be the members of this list server, currently 91 (I'm not sure why so many members aren't using this list as it is virtually the only thing the club communicates with anymore). Both numbers show that we are still growing gracefully. I'm sure that there are many Brit car owners in our area who are unaware of our existence so spread the word if you get the opportunity. Our no dues, no rules approach still seems valid. If you have any suggestions, comments, etc. for improvement, voice them here for implementation next year. Tomorrow looks to be a wet and wild day so the proposed ride will be cancelled. Perhaps we can do it on Sunday! I received an email from Bob the Beard of the Empire Sports Car Association (ESCA) announcing the 46th April Fools Rallye on Sunday, March 28, 2010. Many of our members have participated and enjoyed it in the past. It is not a traditional timed rallye but rather a fun rallye. If anyone wants further information, I can forward their information flyers or they have a website at http://www.sonic.net/~thebeard/. Perhaps we can go as a club. Ron 58 MGA From home at drummondlaw.com Thu Dec 31 13:49:12 2009 From: home at drummondlaw.com (Dan) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:49:12 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] New Years Ride? In-Reply-To: <4B311E5F.9000907@sonic.net> References: <4B311E5F.9000907@sonic.net> Message-ID: The forecast tomorrow is for rain. I assume we're taking a rain check. :) Dan 66 MGB -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:31 AM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: [Nobbc] New Years Ride? First of all, Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to all our members and family. In the past we occasionally scheduled a ride on New Years Day, first ride of the year. Is anybody interested in doing it this (next?) year weather permitting? Ron 58 MGA _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From techyes at pacbell.net Thu Dec 31 15:47:51 2009 From: techyes at pacbell.net (Sheryl) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:47:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010 In-Reply-To: <4B3CFCAB.1050007@sonic.net> References: <4B3CFCAB.1050007@sonic.net> Message-ID: <318989.9462.qm@web83605.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Sunday is OK with us. Dennis and Sheryl 1976 MGB x2 ________________________________ From: Ron Engelhardt To: nobbc at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, December 31, 2009 11:34:03 AM Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010 I want to wish everyone a happy new year. The club has done all right this year and looks good for 2010. I have 142 names on the club roster although many are probably inactive. A more accurate count might be the members of this list server, currently 91 (I'm not sure why so many members aren't using this list as it is virtually the only thing the club communicates with anymore). Both numbers show that we are still growing gracefully. I'm sure that there are many Brit car owners in our area who are unaware of our existence so spread the word if you get the opportunity. Our no dues, no rules approach still seems valid. If you have any suggestions, comments, etc. for improvement, voice them here for implementation next year. Tomorrow looks to be a wet and wild day so the proposed ride will be cancelled. Perhaps we can do it on Sunday! I received an email from Bob the Beard of the Empire Sports Car Association (ESCA) announcing the 46th April Fools Rallye on Sunday, March 28, 2010. Many of our members have participated and enjoyed it in the past. It is not a traditional timed rallye but rather a fun rallye. If anyone wants further information, I can forward their information flyers or they have a website at http://www.sonic.net/~thebeard/. Perhaps we can go as a club. Ron 58 MGA _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Thu Dec 31 15:54:31 2009 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:54:31 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] New Years Ride? In-Reply-To: References: <4B311E5F.9000907@sonic.net> Message-ID: <4B3D2BA7.7050300@sonic.net> Our messages must have crossed so, yes, cancel tomorrow as it looks like it will be bad. Maybe we can reschedule Sunday. Ron 58 MGA Dan wrote: > The forecast tomorrow is for rain. I assume we're taking a rain check. :) > > Dan > 66 MGB From doctoddwright at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 31 16:08:09 2009 From: doctoddwright at sbcglobal.net (Todd Wright) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:08:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010/GEARBOX PROBLEMS In-Reply-To: <4B3CFCAB.1050007@sonic.net> Message-ID: <226882.16078.qm@web83001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Ron and Club members! My 66 MGB with non O.D. died on Sunday. Does anyone know if you can pull the gearbox without taking out the motor. Had just replaced the head gasket and got it running perfect in November. Any recommendations on transmission/gearbox rebuild shop? Thanks Todd 66 MGB --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Ron Engelhardt wrote: From: Ron Engelhardt Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010 To: nobbc at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 11:34 AM I want to wish everyone a happy new year. The club has done all right this year and looks good for 2010. I have 142 names on the club roster although many are probably inactive. A more accurate count might be the members of this list server, currently 91 (I'm not sure why so many members aren't using this list as it is virtually the only thing the club communicates with anymore). Both numbers show that we are still growing gracefully. I'm sure that there are many Brit car owners in our area who are unaware of our existence so spread the word if you get the opportunity. Our no dues, no rules approach still seems valid. If you have any suggestions, comments, etc. for improvement, voice them here for implementation next year. Tomorrow looks to be a wet and wild day so the proposed ride will be cancelled. Perhaps we can do it on Sunday! I received an email from Bob the Beard of the Empire Sports Car Association (ESCA) announcing the 46th April Fools Rallye on Sunday, March 28, 2010. Many of our members have participated and enjoyed it in the past. It is not a traditional timed rallye but rather a fun rallye. If anyone wants further information, I can forward their information flyers or they have a website at http://www.sonic.net/~thebeard/. Perhaps we can go as a club. Ron 58 MGA _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at gmail.com Thu Dec 31 17:16:02 2009 From: gtwincams at gmail.com (Gregory Tatarian) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:16:02 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010 In-Reply-To: <4B3CFCAB.1050007@sonic.net> References: <4B3CFCAB.1050007@sonic.net> Message-ID: Hi Ron, I want to thank you for all of your efforts to organize our little band of drivers. You have been so instrumental in keeping us on the road together; Trish and I appreciate that Ron! In the 4-1/2 years we have been members we've seen a dedicated core of participants as well as quite a few members who make a few drives a year, some who have yet to join us, but hopefully will in the future. We've also seen more members stepping up to host drives and events (as we have enjoyed doing), and we've seen some members migrate to the WCCC for their more organized and socially-oriented drives with a more eclectic group of cars. As members of several car clubs, we've seen quite a variety of club organizational and operational styles, and the NOBBC is definitely unique in the no dues, no meetings, no organization - just drives. There's certainly room for all types in my opinion, and I hope that more people who have signed up as members will also participate in our drives. I also would love to see us venture further into occasional organized events and social activities. Having led two NOBBC drives and one Golden Gate Lotus Club drive (with John Kenner hosting the social event afterward), I have learned some lessons about leading better, more cohesive drives with groups of 15-30 cars (not easy, that), making a few mistakes along the way. We have a number of members who like to drive quickly, and others who prefer a less frantic pace, and I think there are nice ways to accommodate both, even on the same drive. It's hard to match the dedication and energy you have given to the NOBBC, Ron, but I will continue to try to ease your burden as often as possible in 2010. I still owe the club a wine tour to Saintsbury, something I started to plan last year but could not follow through with due to business constraints. As for Sunday, we may not be able to join you due to pressing family (parent) health issues, but will try. It's been great getting together with you all these past years, and I look forward to more of it! Have a safe and Happy New Year celebration, y'all! Cheers, Greg Tatarian 1971 Lotus Elan S4 DHC 1974 Triumph TR6 1974 Alfa Romeo GTV2000 From mvg1 at verizon.net Thu Dec 31 17:17:36 2009 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:17:36 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: MercedesHeritage.com Newsletter: BAPE Gullwing, Barn Finds and more! Message-ID: <95A6CFA00C394B5FBBF517A9A2359863@mike> Hello All, I'm disappointed that our ride is cancelled, hell my car is sanforized and won't shrink, and honestly, driving in the rain is my favorite thing, top or no. And I was actually going to make this one. Anyhoo, my buddy Alan sent me this Mercedes email, it may not be british, but it is a very cool car, be sure to watch the video. Happy new year to all, and be good tonight. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: alan boring To: Michael Gianandrea Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 3:23 PM Subject: FW: MercedesHeritage.com Newsletter: BAPE Gullwing, Barn Finds and more! Or, you could start a talk show A --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Robert H. Belter wrote: From: Robert H. Belter Subject: FW: MercedesHeritage.com Newsletter: BAPE Gullwing, Barn Finds and more! To: "alan boring" , "Gary Nakamura" , "Glenn Young" , "Jerry Geiszler" , "D&J Schweikert" , "Jim Peterson" , "Lou Vasselli" Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 5:01 PM Ahoy, All, Check out the Jay Leno ride. Enjoy /s/ Bob From: Roy Spencer [mailto:roy at mercedesheritage.ccsend.com] On Behalf Of Roy Spencer Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:15 PM To: rhbelter at comcast.net Subject: MercedesHeritage.com Newsletter: BAPE Gullwing, Barn Finds and more! MercedesHeritage.com Newsletter December 2009 Greetings! This last newsletter of 2009 finds the collectible Mercedes-Benz community showing signs of stability and some glimpses of recovery. The new SLS AMG Gullwing may just reignite our passion for unique and satisfying Mercedes-Benz automobiles, young and old. Be sure to view the video and images of Jay Leno's secret outing in the new Gullwing bellowing through the hills above Los Angeles. Great stuff. AMG has been making dreams of performance oriented Mercedes enthusiasts come true for decades. Their Performance Studio has created another gem in the extraordinary BAPE Gullwing presented this month. You must see this car. We close this month's news with a few of our more interesting "barn" finds. We hope you like this issue's new "look" as well. Enjoy our 56th newsletter. Sincerely and with best wishes for 2009, Roy Spencer, editor MercedesHeritage.com roy at mercedesheritage.com MercedesHeritage.com home> List your car/parts/lit for free> Visit your favorite community> Resources Research any 1954-2007SL> Forums> Event Calendar> 2009Highlights: Mercedes at Pebble Beach "Pagoda" Quick Tip BAPE Gullwing: a Japanese fashion designer's dream With only eight or so constructed, AMG upgraded Gullwings are a rare sight. We saw one auctioned in London in October. Here's the wlldest one yet. What do you think of the paint scheme? read more> Jay Leno tries a new Gullwing on LA's "Nurburgring" The new SLS AMG Gullwing is proving to be a media darling, just like the SLR. Jay Leno likes it too. He was filmed blasting along his Los Angeles "track" early one morning this month. Have a look at this cool video and some images of the shoot. read more> Barn Finds: A small collection of weathered gems What lies in that tattered garage down the street? Who knows, there might be a Gullwing hiding inside sitting on flat tires. We review a few of our more memorable finds. read more... Forward email to friend This email was sent to rhbelter at comcast.net by roy at oursl.com. Update Profile/Email Address | Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribeb" | Privacy Policy. Email Marketing by MercedesHeritage.com | 1291 Whitethorne Way | Burlingame | CA | 94010 From nobbc at sonic.net Thu Dec 31 19:12:41 2009 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:12:41 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Fw: MercedesHeritage.com Newsletter: BAPE Gullwing, Barn Finds and more! In-Reply-To: <95A6CFA00C394B5FBBF517A9A2359863@mike> References: <95A6CFA00C394B5FBBF517A9A2359863@mike> Message-ID: <4B3D5A19.10809@sonic.net> I think you missed the link or am I missing it? Ron 58 MGA Mike Gianandrea wrote: > Hello All, > > I'm disappointed that our ride is cancelled, hell my car is sanforized and > won't shrink, and honestly, driving in the rain is my favorite thing, top or > no. And I was actually going to make this one. Anyhoo, my buddy Alan sent me > this Mercedes email, it may not be british, but it is a very cool car, be sure > to watch the video. Happy new year to all, and be good tonight. > > Michael > 64 TR4 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: alan boring > To: Michael Gianandrea > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 3:23 PM > Subject: FW: MercedesHeritage.com Newsletter: BAPE Gullwing, Barn Finds and > more! > > > Or, you could start a talk show > > A > > --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Robert H. Belter wrote: > > > From: Robert H. Belter > Subject: FW: MercedesHeritage.com Newsletter: BAPE Gullwing, Barn > Finds and more! > To: "alan boring" , "Gary Nakamura" > , "Glenn Young" , "Jerry Geiszler" > , "D&J Schweikert" , "Jim Peterson" > , "Lou Vasselli" > Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 5:01 PM > > > Ahoy, All, > > > > Check out the Jay Leno ride. > > > > Enjoy /s/ Bob > > > > From: Roy Spencer [mailto:roy at mercedesheritage.ccsend.com] On Behalf > Of Roy Spencer > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:15 PM > To: rhbelter at comcast.net > Subject: MercedesHeritage.com Newsletter: BAPE Gullwing, Barn Finds > and more! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MercedesHeritage.com Newsletter > December 2009 > > > Greetings! > > This last newsletter of 2009 finds the > collectible Mercedes-Benz community showing signs of stability and some > glimpses of recovery. > > The new SLS AMG Gullwing may just reignite our > passion for unique and satisfying Mercedes-Benz automobiles, young and old. > > Be sure to view the video and images of Jay > Leno's secret outing in the new Gullwing bellowing through the hills above Los > Angeles. Great stuff. > > AMG has been making dreams of performance > oriented Mercedes enthusiasts come true for decades. Their Performance Studio > has created another gem in the extraordinary BAPE Gullwing presented this > month. You must see this car. > > We close this month's news with a few of our > more interesting "barn" finds. We hope you like this issue's new "look" as > well. > > Enjoy our 56th newsletter. > > Sincerely and with best wishes for 2009, > > Roy Spencer, editor MercedesHeritage.com > roy at mercedesheritage.com > > > > > > MercedesHeritage.com home> > > > List your car/parts/lit for free> > > Visit your favorite community> > > > > > Resources > > Research any 1954-2007SL> > > Forums> > > Event Calendar> > > > > > 2009Highlights: > Mercedes at Pebble Beach > > > > > > > "Pagoda" Quick Tip > > > > > > BAPE Gullwing: a Japanese fashion designer's > dream > > With only eight or so constructed, AMG > upgraded Gullwings are a rare sight. We saw one auctioned in London in > October. Here's the wlldest one yet. What do you think of the paint scheme? > > > > read more> > > > > > Jay Leno tries a new Gullwing on LA's > "Nurburgring" > > The new SLS AMG Gullwing is proving to be a > media darling, just like the SLR. Jay Leno likes it too. He was filmed > blasting along his Los Angeles "track" early one morning this month. Have a > look at this cool video and some images of the shoot. > > > > read more> > > > > > Barn Finds: A small collection of weathered > gems > > What lies in that tattered garage down the > street? Who knows, there might be a Gullwing hiding inside sitting on flat > tires. We review a few of our more memorable finds. > > > read more... > > > > > > > > > > > Forward email to friend > > > > This email was sent to rhbelter at comcast.net by > roy at oursl.com. > > Update Profile/Email Address | Instant removal with > SafeUnsubscribeb" | Privacy Policy. > Email Marketing by > > > > > MercedesHeritage.com | 1291 Whitethorne Way | Burlingame | CA | > 94010 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From jonvet at sonic.net Thu Dec 31 19:19:33 2009 From: jonvet at sonic.net (John Vetrano) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:19:33 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] 2010! Message-ID: Happy New Year to all you Brit car nuts! Well after rebuilding the dreaded 3Strangle-Bergs2 I now have a clutch problem on Da Jag, so I guess It will be awhile to get her back on the road, oh well at least its winter. Hope to see you all soon, have fun and be safe. John Vetrano 69 E-Type From jkenner at tamcab.com Thu Dec 31 19:26:31 2009 From: jkenner at tamcab.com (John Kenner) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:26:31 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] HAPPY NEW YEAR Message-ID: <001601ca8a89$d56b4490$8041cdb0$@com> I BELIEVE IT'S ACCEPTABLE TO USE ALL CAPS WHEN SAYING: HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL AND BELIEVE THAT THE BLUE MOON IS A GOOD OMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOOKING FORWARD TO MANY MORE NOBBC RIDES, JOHN KENNER DESTROYER OF SPITFIRES 2 THIS WEEK ALONE!!!!!!!! 510 231 6803 P 415 806 2457 C 510 231 6805 F tamalpais_s [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] From mvg1 at verizon.net Thu Dec 31 19:31:42 2009 From: mvg1 at verizon.net (Mike Gianandrea) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:31:42 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010/GEARBOX PROBLEMS References: <226882.16078.qm@web83001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Todd, Try Vaughn's Transmission in Santa Rosa, good work and very decent pricing. Michael 64 TR4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Wright" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010/GEARBOX PROBLEMS > Hi Ron and Club members! > > My 66 MGB with non O.D. died on Sunday. Does anyone know if you can pull > the gearbox without taking out the motor. Had just replaced the head > gasket > and got it running perfect in November. Any recommendations on > transmission/gearbox rebuild shop? > > Thanks > > Todd > > 66 MGB > > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > > From: Ron Engelhardt > Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010 > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 11:34 AM > > I want to wish everyone a happy new year. The club has done all right this > year and looks good for 2010. I have 142 names on the club roster although > many are probably inactive. A more accurate count might be the members of > this > list server, currently 91 (I'm not sure why so many members aren't using > this > list as it is virtually the only thing the club communicates with > anymore). > Both numbers show that we are still growing gracefully. I'm sure that > there > are many Brit car owners in our area who are unaware of our existence so > spread the word if you get the opportunity. Our no dues, no rules approach > still seems valid. If you have any suggestions, comments, etc. for > improvement, voice them here for implementation next year. > > Tomorrow looks to be a wet and wild day so the proposed ride will be > cancelled. Perhaps we can do it on Sunday! > > I received an email from Bob the Beard of the Empire Sports Car > Association > (ESCA) announcing the 46th April Fools Rallye on Sunday, March 28, 2010. > Many > of our members have participated and enjoyed it in the past. It is not a > traditional timed rallye but rather a fun rallye. If anyone wants further > information, I can forward their information flyers or they have a website > at > http://www.sonic.net/~thebeard/. Perhaps we can go as a club. > > Ron > 58 MGA > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Thu Dec 31 20:48:48 2009 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:48:48 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc 2010 In-Reply-To: References: <4B3CFCAB.1050007@sonic.net> Message-ID: <95a735e60912311948g3dd98f12nc481be4fe48455e4@mail.gmail.com> And, let us not forget, this turn of the century, our point man and originator, Steve... On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Gregory Tatarian wrote: > Hi Ron, > > I want to thank you for all of your efforts to organize our little band of > drivers. You have been so instrumental in keeping us on the road together; > Trish and I appreciate that Ron! > > In the 4-1/2 years we have been members we've seen a dedicated core of > participants as well as quite a few members who make a few drives a year, > some who have yet to join us, but hopefully will in the future. We've also > seen more members stepping up to host drives and events (as we have enjoyed > doing), and we've seen some members migrate to the WCCC for their more > organized and socially-oriented drives with a more eclectic group of cars. > > As members of several car clubs, we've seen quite a variety of club > organizational and operational styles, and the NOBBC is definitely unique > in > the no dues, no meetings, no organization - just drives. There's certainly > room for all types in my opinion, and I hope that more people who have > signed up as members will also participate in our drives. I also would love > to see us venture further into occasional organized events and social > activities. > > Having led two NOBBC drives and one Golden Gate Lotus Club drive (with John > Kenner hosting the social event afterward), I have learned some lessons > about leading better, more cohesive drives with groups of 15-30 cars (not > easy, that), making a few mistakes along the way. We have a number of > members who like to drive quickly, and others who prefer a less frantic > pace, and I think there are nice ways to accommodate both, even on the same > drive. > > It's hard to match the dedication and energy you have given to the NOBBC, > Ron, but I will continue to try to ease your burden as often as possible in > 2010. I still owe the club a wine tour to Saintsbury, something I started > to > plan last year but could not follow through with due to business > constraints. As for Sunday, we may not be able to join you due to pressing > family (parent) health issues, but will try. > > It's been great getting together with you all these past years, and I look > forward to more of it! Have a safe and Happy New Year celebration, y'all! > > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > 1971 Lotus Elan S4 DHC > 1974 Triumph TR6 > 1974 Alfa Romeo GTV2000 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc