From don at napanet.net Mon Sep 1 23:02:11 2008 From: don at napanet.net (don) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:02:11 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Auto body work and paint In-Reply-To: <000001c90b83$50fdee50$f2f9caf0$@NET> References: <95a735e60808301001m3ef1cc56mec4717a802b11a9@mail.gmail.com> <3015A9BF-5414-450E-9D72-3FA2A273443C@sonic.net> <6.0.3.0.1.20080830184005.02e25b00@pop.napanet.net> <000001c90b83$50fdee50$f2f9caf0$@NET> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.1.20080901205930.02f06bc0@pop.napanet.net> John, Not sure if that's him or not. I found my old receipt from 1994. It was called MD Auto Painting and he was on Bodega Highway outside Sebastopol. Is that the same guy? If so, the quality of the work was great, and he was a pleasant guy on top of it. The body man is name Kres, and he's on Calistoga Road. He is a great guy, does great work, and as far as I know is still doing work. There was a photo of the GT and he welded in a lower fender panel. The quality of the work was fantastic. Amazing, this is a California car but rust never sleeps. Don At 08:04 AM 08/31/2008, you wrote: >DON, > >THE FELLOW YOU ARE REFFERING TO OUTSIDE OF SEBASTOPOL >IS PROBABLY RON WHEELER OF FORESTVILLE. >HE IS CURRENTLY RESTORING THE BODY ON MY TR250. >A GREAT FELLOW WHO DOES GREAT WORK. >HE WILL ONLY DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. >HIS # IS ON THE T-SHIRT I'M WEARING RIGHT NOW:707 887 7030 > >JOHN KENNER > >-----Original Message----- >From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On >Behalf Of don >Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:48 PM >To: North Bay British Car Club >Subject: [Nobbc] Auto body work and paint > >I live in Calistoga, and have a couple of old British sports cars. Several >years ago, I had my B GT painted by a fellow who lived in the rural area >outside Sebastopol. He did a wonderful job at a reasonable price. The >quality of the finish was better than when the car was new. I've also got >a fellow who lives between here and Santa Rosa who has helped with body >work, retired, who works out of his home. He welded in a dogleg and did >some prep work on the car prior to painting. The painter moved and the >auto body fellow is getting on in years. >Do any of you guys on this list know of people who are like the ones cited >above who do good work in a shadetree setting? I have a TR4 lined up to >purchase that has a dent and a rough panel, so will need a bit of body and >paint work. >Thanks! >Don Scott >Calistoga >'62 MGA Mk II >'73 MGB GT (for sale) >'91 Miata BRG -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1645 - Release Date: 09/01/2008 7:19 AM From dawson at authorspublishing.com Wed Sep 3 16:17:15 2008 From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 15:17:15 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Auto body work and paint In-Reply-To: <000001c90b83$50fdee50$f2f9caf0$@NET> References: <95a735e60808301001m3ef1cc56mec4717a802b11a9@mail.gmail.com> <3015A9BF-5414-450E-9D72-3FA2A273443C@sonic.net> <6.0.3.0.1.20080830184005.02e25b00@pop.napanet.net> <000001c90b83$50fdee50$f2f9caf0$@NET> Message-ID: How about if we create a T shirt with the names of all such repair resources, for easy reference? Just kidding. But having the names on the web site would be a good step! Dawson On Aug 31, 2008, at 9:04 AM, JULIA KENNER wrote: > DON, > > THE FELLOW YOU ARE REFFERING TO OUTSIDE OF SEBASTOPOL > IS PROBABLY RON WHEELER OF FORESTVILLE. > HE IS CURRENTLY RESTORING THE BODY ON MY TR250. > A GREAT FELLOW WHO DOES GREAT WORK. > HE WILL ONLY DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. > HIS # IS ON THE T-SHIRT I'M WEARING RIGHT NOW:707 887 7030 > > JOHN KENNER > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > ] On > Behalf Of don > Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:48 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: [Nobbc] Auto body work and paint > > I live in Calistoga, and have a couple of old British sports cars. > Several > years ago, I had my B GT painted by a fellow who lived in the rural > area > outside Sebastopol. He did a wonderful job at a reasonable price. > The > quality of the finish was better than when the car was new. I've > also got > a fellow who lives between here and Santa Rosa who has helped with > body > work, retired, who works out of his home. He welded in a dogleg and > did > some prep work on the car prior to painting. The painter moved and > the > auto body fellow is getting on in years. > Do any of you guys on this list know of people who are like the ones > cited > above who do good work in a shadetree setting? I have a TR4 lined > up to > purchase that has a dent and a rough panel, so will need a bit of > body and > paint work. > Thanks! > Don Scott > Calistoga > '62 MGA Mk II > '73 MGB GT (for sale) > '91 Miata BRG > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.13/1642 - Release Date: > 08/29/2008 > 6:12 PM > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sand at frii.com Wed Sep 3 17:02:19 2008 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:02:19 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] Auto body work and paint References: <95a735e60808301001m3ef1cc56mec4717a802b11a9@mail.gmail.com><3015A9BF-5414-450E-9D72-3FA2A273443C@sonic.net><6.0.3.0.1.20080830184005.02e25b00@pop.napanet.net><000001c90b83$50fdee50$f2f9caf0$@NET> Message-ID: <5F39A7BC8D4D4803858012DAB8B05E6C@stevewbxu6x2qe> you know dawson, that could be a good idea. for years now people have been asking abought who knows a brit car wrench or such things. for myself doing my own work on the car is 1/2 the hobby and what makes a ride a reward-but that,s just me. when i was a kid, in my teens i was big into the datsun 510s. after a while seems every weekend i was doing a head gasket or clutch job for somebody, i would come close to saying that every 510 in petaluma and novato went thru my hands at one time or another. it was fun-it was also 30 years ago. bet if you asked tchreek (nobbc webmistress) she would be happy to add this nobbc approved shop list to the website- we all need to give her a continued thanks for the great job she does with that site. (now there,s a thought, nobbc approved sighns at service shops) steve-colorado. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawson Church" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Auto body work and paint > How about if we create a T shirt with the names of all such repair > resources, for easy reference? > > Just kidding. But having the names on the web site would be a good step! > > Dawson > > > On Aug 31, 2008, at 9:04 AM, JULIA KENNER wrote: > >> DON, >> >> THE FELLOW YOU ARE REFFERING TO OUTSIDE OF SEBASTOPOL >> IS PROBABLY RON WHEELER OF FORESTVILLE. >> HE IS CURRENTLY RESTORING THE BODY ON MY TR250. >> A GREAT FELLOW WHO DOES GREAT WORK. >> HE WILL ONLY DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. >> HIS # IS ON THE T-SHIRT I'M WEARING RIGHT NOW:707 887 7030 >> >> JOHN KENNER >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >> ] On >> Behalf Of don >> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:48 PM >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> Subject: [Nobbc] Auto body work and paint >> >> I live in Calistoga, and have a couple of old British sports cars. >> Several >> years ago, I had my B GT painted by a fellow who lived in the rural >> area >> outside Sebastopol. He did a wonderful job at a reasonable price. >> The >> quality of the finish was better than when the car was new. I've >> also got >> a fellow who lives between here and Santa Rosa who has helped with >> body >> work, retired, who works out of his home. He welded in a dogleg and >> did >> some prep work on the car prior to painting. The painter moved and >> the >> auto body fellow is getting on in years. >> Do any of you guys on this list know of people who are like the ones >> cited >> above who do good work in a shadetree setting? I have a TR4 lined >> up to >> purchase that has a dent and a rough panel, so will need a bit of >> body and >> paint work. >> Thanks! >> Don Scott >> Calistoga >> '62 MGA Mk II >> '73 MGB GT (for sale) >> '91 Miata BRG >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.13/1642 - Release Date: >> 08/29/2008 >> 6:12 PM >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From dawson at authorspublishing.com Wed Sep 3 17:27:03 2008 From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:27:03 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Auto body work and paint In-Reply-To: <5F39A7BC8D4D4803858012DAB8B05E6C@stevewbxu6x2qe> References: <95a735e60808301001m3ef1cc56mec4717a802b11a9@mail.gmail.com><3015A9BF-5414-450E-9D72-3FA2A273443C@sonic.net><6.0.3.0.1.20080830184005.02e25b00@pop.napanet.net><000001c90b83$50fdee50$f2f9caf0$@NET> <5F39A7BC8D4D4803858012DAB8B05E6C@stevewbxu6x2qe> Message-ID: I just put a different cooling system on my other Lotus Elite. I photographed most of the process. This upgrade will stop the 907 engine from blowing head gaskets. I've also figured out some tuning tricks for that engine, and how to address some of the electrical problems that can occur with those cars. We could have a similar set of resources. For instance, Lawrie, a retired mechanic in Sacramento, made a video a few years back on how to rebuild a MG T series engine. I'm concerned that as these kinds of people retire, their knowledge base is otherwise lost. But if we have video and tech bulletins on the site, our grandchildren could be keeping their old cars running! Dawson On Sep 3, 2008, at 4:02 PM, Steve Lehmann wrote: > you know dawson, that could be a good idea. > for years now people have been asking abought who knows a brit car > wrench or > such things. > for myself doing my own work on the car is 1/2 the hobby and what > makes a > ride a reward-but that,s just me. > when i was a kid, in my teens i was big into the datsun 510s. after > a while > seems every weekend i was doing a head gasket or clutch job for > somebody, i > would come close to saying that every 510 in petaluma and novato > went thru > my hands at one time or another. it was fun-it was also 30 years ago. > > bet if you asked tchreek (nobbc webmistress) she would be happy to > add this > nobbc approved shop list to the website- > we all need to give her a continued thanks for the great job she > does with > that site. > (now there,s a thought, nobbc approved sighns at service shops) > steve-colorado. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dawson Church" > To: "North Bay British Car Club" > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 4:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Auto body work and paint > > >> How about if we create a T shirt with the names of all such repair >> resources, for easy reference? >> >> Just kidding. But having the names on the web site would be a good >> step! >> >> Dawson >> >> >> On Aug 31, 2008, at 9:04 AM, JULIA KENNER wrote: >> >>> DON, >>> >>> THE FELLOW YOU ARE REFFERING TO OUTSIDE OF SEBASTOPOL >>> IS PROBABLY RON WHEELER OF FORESTVILLE. >>> HE IS CURRENTLY RESTORING THE BODY ON MY TR250. >>> A GREAT FELLOW WHO DOES GREAT WORK. >>> HE WILL ONLY DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. >>> HIS # IS ON THE T-SHIRT I'M WEARING RIGHT NOW:707 887 7030 >>> >>> JOHN KENNER >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >>> ] On >>> Behalf Of don >>> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:48 PM >>> To: North Bay British Car Club >>> Subject: [Nobbc] Auto body work and paint >>> >>> I live in Calistoga, and have a couple of old British sports cars. >>> Several >>> years ago, I had my B GT painted by a fellow who lived in the rural >>> area >>> outside Sebastopol. He did a wonderful job at a reasonable price. >>> The >>> quality of the finish was better than when the car was new. I've >>> also got >>> a fellow who lives between here and Santa Rosa who has helped with >>> body >>> work, retired, who works out of his home. He welded in a dogleg and >>> did >>> some prep work on the car prior to painting. The painter moved and >>> the >>> auto body fellow is getting on in years. >>> Do any of you guys on this list know of people who are like the ones >>> cited >>> above who do good work in a shadetree setting? I have a TR4 lined >>> up to >>> purchase that has a dent and a rough panel, so will need a bit of >>> body and >>> paint work. >>> Thanks! >>> Don Scott >>> Calistoga >>> '62 MGA Mk II >>> '73 MGB GT (for sale) >>> '91 Miata BRG >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by AVG. >>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.13/1642 - Release Date: >>> 08/29/2008 >>> 6:12 PM >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From dawson at authorspublishing.com Sat Sep 6 00:05:51 2008 From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 23:05:51 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] 2008 British Car Meet Brisbane CA Sep 7 Message-ID: Hi Friends, On Sunday the meet starts at 9 am, and there is a whole day program: http://forum.moasf.com/index.php?topic=2775.msg13105 I'm driving down in my yellow Lotus, leaving at 8 am Sunday morning. If anyone else is going, let me know, we could convoy together after meeting at the usual PGE substation. Sunday afternoon 2:30 the SF opera is doing an outdoor performance in Golden Gate Park, so we could stop there on the way back. Just got word that my RED 74 Elite will be driveable next week, so I'll bring that to the next club meet. The paint still looks hideous, like it's been dragged backwards through a thistle patch, but it now runs like a top. Dawson From gtwincams at pacbell.net Sat Sep 6 08:36:55 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:36:55 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] 2008 British Car Meet Brisbane CA Sep 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48C29587.2060605@pacbell.net> Hi Dawson, et. al., In addition to tomorrow, today there is a swap meet from 0800 to noon, and a drive. Cheers, Greg Dawson Church wrote: > Hi Friends, > > On Sunday the meet starts at 9 am, and there is a whole day program: > > http://forum.moasf.com/index.php?topic=2775.msg13105 > > I'm driving down in my yellow Lotus, leaving at 8 am Sunday morning. > If anyone else is going, let me know, we could convoy together after > meeting at the usual PGE substation. Sunday afternoon 2:30 the SF > opera is doing an outdoor performance in Golden Gate Park, so we could > stop there on the way back. > > Just got word that my RED 74 Elite will be driveable next week, so > I'll bring that to the next club meet. The paint still looks hideous, > like it's been dragged backwards through a thistle patch, but it now > runs like a top. > > Dawson > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Mon Sep 8 20:55:24 2008 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:55:24 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Next ride Message-ID: <48C5E59C.3010100@sonic.net> Our next ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has any suggestions for a destination pipe up. Otherwise the group present will decide. As a suggestion, we haven't been to Berryessa in a while. The weather this time of year is usually perfect for Brit cars. Ron 58 MGA From gtwincams at pacbell.net Mon Sep 8 21:14:13 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams at pacbell.net) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 03:14:13 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] Next ride Message-ID: Hi Ron, et. al. I vote for a Marin drive, starting in Petaluma perhaps, heading west then south. Sheryl and Dennis indicated some time ago that they had some good ideas. It would be nice to meet up with some of our more southern members. Cheers, Greg ------Original Message------ From: Ron Engelhardt Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net To: nobbc at autox.team.net ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Sep 8, 2008 7:55 PM Subject: [Nobbc] Next ride Our next ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has any suggestions for a destination pipe up. Otherwise the group present will decide. As a suggestion, we haven't been to Berryessa in a while. The weather this time of year is usually perfect for Brit cars. Ron 58 MGA _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From home at drummondlaw.com Mon Sep 8 22:29:32 2008 From: home at drummondlaw.com (Dan) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 21:29:32 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Next ride In-Reply-To: <20080909032520.0FF6C1878B2@autox.team.net> References: <20080909032520.0FF6C1878B2@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <09FE6228C7034C84A396D060814BCE13@dandebbie> If y'all want to head south, Rancho Nicasio is a good spot for lunch. Or is you want to head over to the coast, Tony's in Marshall is a great place for BBQ'd oysters. The ride to Tomales is a good one with few stop signs. Dan -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of gtwincams at pacbell.net Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:14 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Next ride Hi Ron, et. al. I vote for a Marin drive, starting in Petaluma perhaps, heading west then south. Sheryl and Dennis indicated some time ago that they had some good ideas. It would be nice to meet up with some of our more southern members. Cheers, Greg ------Original Message------ From: Ron Engelhardt Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net To: nobbc at autox.team.net ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Sep 8, 2008 7:55 PM Subject: [Nobbc] Next ride Our next ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has any suggestions for a destination pipe up. Otherwise the group present will decide. As a suggestion, we haven't been to Berryessa in a while. The weather this time of year is usually perfect for Brit cars. Ron 58 MGA _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From drmartyrayman at gmail.com Tue Sep 9 09:19:57 2008 From: drmartyrayman at gmail.com (Martin Rayman) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 08:19:57 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Next ride In-Reply-To: <09FE6228C7034C84A396D060814BCE13@dandebbie> References: <20080909032520.0FF6C1878B2@autox.team.net> <09FE6228C7034C84A396D060814BCE13@dandebbie> Message-ID: <3924ed760809090819t5c43436dqcc508522443e1f37@mail.gmail.com> If you have lunch at Rancho Nicasio, I might be able to join you for part of the ride following lunch. Pleae let me know. Marty '53 MG TD *Martin Sinai Rayman, D.D.S. Pediatric Dentistry* 912 Grand Avenue, #202 San Rafael, CA 94901-3538 Voice: 415.459.1444 FAX: 415.459.1320 Website: http://www.openbigdds.com On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Dan wrote: > If y'all want to head south, Rancho Nicasio is a good spot for lunch. Or > is > you want to head over to the coast, Tony's in Marshall is a great place for > BBQ'd oysters. The ride to Tomales is a good one with few stop signs. > > Dan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of gtwincams at pacbell.net > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:14 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Next ride > > Hi Ron, et. al. > I vote for a Marin drive, starting in Petaluma perhaps, heading west then > south. Sheryl and Dennis indicated some time ago that they had some good > ideas. It would be nice to meet up with some of our more southern members. > Cheers, > Greg > > ------Original Message------ > From: Ron Engelhardt > Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club > Sent: Sep 8, 2008 7:55 PM > Subject: [Nobbc] Next ride > > Our next ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has any > suggestions for a destination pipe up. Otherwise the group present will > decide. As a suggestion, we haven't been to Berryessa in a while. The > weather this time of year is usually perfect for Brit cars. > > Ron > 58 MGA > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > -- From nobbc at sonic.net Tue Sep 9 14:29:15 2008 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:29:15 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Next ride In-Reply-To: <20080909032519.F09B11878B1@autox.team.net> References: <20080909032519.F09B11878B1@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <48C6DC9B.9010902@sonic.net> Well, if someone wants to volunteer to lead a Marin ride I'm all for it. The decision should be made today so notice can be put out to the rest of the gang. So how about it Nobbc, any volunteers??? Ron 58 MGA gtwincams at pacbell.net wrote: > Hi Ron, et. al. > I vote for a Marin drive, starting in Petaluma perhaps, heading west then south. Sheryl and Dennis indicated some time ago that they had some good ideas. It would be nice to meet up with some of our more southern members. > Cheers, > Greg > > ------Original Message------ > From: Ron Engelhardt > Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club > Sent: Sep 8, 2008 7:55 PM > Subject: [Nobbc] Next ride > > Our next ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has any > suggestions for a destination pipe up. Otherwise the group present will > decide. As a suggestion, we haven't been to Berryessa in a while. The > weather this time of year is usually perfect for Brit cars. > > Ron > 58 MGA > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From zied at redwoodempiremini.com Tue Sep 9 14:53:57 2008 From: zied at redwoodempiremini.com (Peter Ziedrich) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 13:53:57 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Next ride In-Reply-To: <48C6DC9B.9010902@sonic.net> References: <20080909032519.F09B11878B1@autox.team.net> <48C6DC9B.9010902@sonic.net> Message-ID: Here's a nice run you might want to consider... one REME did a few years ago with great success (lots of breaks with easy driving)... not too far or hard for old cars either. It includes a couple of hours break at Point Reyes with time to walk down to the lighthouse and have a picnic lunch (or lunch at Drakes Cafi). It ends at Moylans Brewery in Novato about 5pm. http://redwoodempiremini.com/PDF/Sebastopol-Point%20Reyes.pdf Peter Ziedrich Founder zied at redwoodempiremini.com http://redwoodempiremini.com -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 1:29 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Next ride Well, if someone wants to volunteer to lead a Marin ride I'm all for it. The decision should be made today so notice can be put out to the rest of the gang. So how about it Nobbc, any volunteers??? Ron 58 MGA gtwincams at pacbell.net wrote: > Hi Ron, et. al. > I vote for a Marin drive, starting in Petaluma perhaps, heading west then south. Sheryl and Dennis indicated some time ago that they had some good ideas. It would be nice to meet up with some of our more southern members. > Cheers, > Greg > > ------Original Message------ > From: Ron Engelhardt > Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club > Sent: Sep 8, 2008 7:55 PM > Subject: [Nobbc] Next ride > > Our next ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has any > suggestions for a destination pipe up. Otherwise the group present will > decide. As a suggestion, we haven't been to Berryessa in a while. The > weather this time of year is usually perfect for Brit cars. > > Ron > 58 MGA > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc __________ NOD32 3429 (20080909) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com From zied at redwoodempiremini.com Tue Sep 9 15:07:31 2008 From: zied at redwoodempiremini.com (Peter Ziedrich) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:07:31 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Next ride In-Reply-To: <48C6DC9B.9010902@sonic.net> References: <20080909032519.F09B11878B1@autox.team.net> <48C6DC9B.9010902@sonic.net> Message-ID: Since I am sharing ideas... here's another one (a little shorter) http://redwoodempiremini.com/PDF/REME%20Tamalpais%20-%20Cheese%20Factory.pdf If your club ever wants to join us on a run or two, we have spirited monthly runs all over the Bay Area and beyond. Feel free to review our map archive for ideas to adapt to your club runs. Peter Ziedrich Founder Redwood Empire Mini Enthusiasts zied at redwoodempiremini.com http://redwoodempiremini.com -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 1:29 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Next ride Well, if someone wants to volunteer to lead a Marin ride I'm all for it. The decision should be made today so notice can be put out to the rest of the gang. So how about it Nobbc, any volunteers??? Ron 58 MGA gtwincams at pacbell.net wrote: > Hi Ron, et. al. > I vote for a Marin drive, starting in Petaluma perhaps, heading west then south. Sheryl and Dennis indicated some time ago that they had some good ideas. It would be nice to meet up with some of our more southern members. > Cheers, > Greg > > ------Original Message------ > From: Ron Engelhardt > Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club > Sent: Sep 8, 2008 7:55 PM > Subject: [Nobbc] Next ride > > Our next ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has any > suggestions for a destination pipe up. Otherwise the group present will > decide. As a suggestion, we haven't been to Berryessa in a while. The > weather this time of year is usually perfect for Brit cars. > > Ron > 58 MGA > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc __________ NOD32 3429 (20080909) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com From sand at frii.com Tue Sep 9 16:41:41 2008 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:41:41 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] vote marin ride-very overdue.-steve. Message-ID: <47C456900A8C4389AA0C356333D3C03D@stevewbxu6x2qe> From drmartyrayman at gmail.com Tue Sep 9 18:15:52 2008 From: drmartyrayman at gmail.com (Martin Rayman) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:15:52 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] vote marin ride-very overdue.-steve. In-Reply-To: <47C456900A8C4389AA0C356333D3C03D@stevewbxu6x2qe> References: <47C456900A8C4389AA0C356333D3C03D@stevewbxu6x2qe> Message-ID: <3924ed760809091715p2192f7ffn1a7f72ac6402603b@mail.gmail.com> I agree and would like to participate in and perhaps lead a Marin County outing. My inclination is towards rides that do not take up the whole day. For instance, I participated only once in a NOBBC drive in the year that I have received e mails. My son and I went on the July 4th outing to the Drake's Bay Oyster Co. It was wonderful. We departed Fairfax at about half nine and were home BBQ'ing oysters before one. We had a beautiful drive and met some nice people to boot. Marty '53 MG TD On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Steve Lehmann wrote: > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > -- Martin Sinai Rayman, D.D.S. Pediatric Dentistry 912 Grand Avenue, #202 San Rafael, CA 94901-3538 Voice: 415.459.1444 FAX: 415.459.1320 Website: http://www.openbigdds.com NOTICE: This communication, including any attachments, is confidential and may be protected by privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by telephone or e-mail, and permanently delete all copies, electronic or other, you may have. The foregoing applies even if this notice is embedded in a message that is forwarded or attached. From gtwincams at pacbell.net Wed Sep 10 09:51:44 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:51:44 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Next ride In-Reply-To: <48C6DC9B.9010902@sonic.net> References: <20080909032519.F09B11878B1@autox.team.net> <48C6DC9B.9010902@sonic.net> Message-ID: <48C7ED10.1070501@pacbell.net> Ron - we've had a few nice suggestions, but no one has yet said they will lead the tour, so I'll do that. I echo Martin's sentiments about not making this an entire-day affair, though I do appreciate that some members like a very structured, multi-destination tour, and that those can be fun. I will work up a route today and let you know. I won't have time to pre-drive the route before Saturday, but the meeting points and stopping points will be well-established, even if there are some subtle route changes before or on Saturday. I'll send an email in the next few minutes that will lay out the basics of meeting points and times. I am planning that the northern members meet a little earlier so that we can meet with the rest of the group in Marin County at close to our regular time of 1000, then go on our drive and still have time to make it back to the north at a reasonable time. Cheers, Greg From gtwincams at pacbell.net Wed Sep 10 13:36:12 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:36:12 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] NOBBC Drive - Saturday In-Reply-To: <3924ed760809091715p2192f7ffn1a7f72ac6402603b@mail.gmail.com> References: <47C456900A8C4389AA0C356333D3C03D@stevewbxu6x2qe> <3924ed760809091715p2192f7ffn1a7f72ac6402603b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48C821AC.1050705@pacbell.net> Hello NOBBC members, I've come up with a route that will give northern members time to get down to the Cheese Factory, where we will meet up with southern members. >From the Cheese factory, we'll head further south to Forest Knolls, through the GGNRA and Olema, ending in Marshall at the Oyster Co. for lunch. You may wish to bring your own lunch and drinks, and obviously, a full tank of gas. After lunch, probably about 1330 or so, members can depart taking the route of their choice. As you can see, this is not a long tour, but getting to the Cheese Factory will take time for most of us (Southern members may wish to select a starting point for their drive up to the Cheese Factory...), providing us with a total drive time of probably about 3 hours, minus stops. I have created a PDF file that shows the route and stops. There are extra stops shown at each intersection, just for clarity and to add a few minutes here and there for people to catch up. The PDF can be downloaded from my personal web page: http://home.pacbell.net/tatarian/NOBBC_SEPT_13.pdf See you Saturday! Cheers, Greg Tatarian From nobbc at sonic.net Wed Sep 10 14:29:05 2008 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:29:05 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] NOBBC Drive - Saturday In-Reply-To: <48C821AC.1050705@pacbell.net> References: <47C456900A8C4389AA0C356333D3C03D@stevewbxu6x2qe> <3924ed760809091715p2192f7ffn1a7f72ac6402603b@mail.gmail.com> <48C821AC.1050705@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <48C82E11.3080806@sonic.net> Wow, great job Greg. It should be a fun ride for all. Ron 58 MGA gtwincams wrote: > Hello NOBBC members, > > I've come up with a route that will give northern members time to get > down to the Cheese Factory, where we will meet up with southern members. >>From the Cheese factory, we'll head further south to Forest Knolls, > through the GGNRA and Olema, ending in Marshall at the Oyster Co. for > lunch. You may wish to bring your own lunch and drinks, and obviously, a > full tank of gas. After lunch, probably about 1330 or so, members can > depart taking the route of their choice. > > As you can see, this is not a long tour, but getting to the Cheese > Factory will take time for most of us (Southern members may wish to > select a starting point for their drive up to the Cheese Factory...), > providing us with a total drive time of probably about 3 hours, minus stops. > > I have created a PDF file that shows the route and stops. There are > extra stops shown at each intersection, just for clarity and to add a > few minutes here and there for people to catch up. The PDF can be > downloaded from my personal web page: > > http://home.pacbell.net/tatarian/NOBBC_SEPT_13.pdf > > See you Saturday! > > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com Wed Sep 10 14:41:03 2008 From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:41:03 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] NOBBC Drive - Saturday In-Reply-To: <47C456900A8C4389AA0C356333D3C03D@stevewbxu6x2qe><3924ed760809091715p2192f7ffn1a7f72ac6402603b@mail.gmail.com> <48C821AC.1050705@pacbell.net> References: <47C456900A8C4389AA0C356333D3C03D@stevewbxu6x2qe><3924ed760809091715p2192f7ffn1a7f72ac6402603b@mail.gmail.com> <48C821AC.1050705@pacbell.net> Message-ID: Greg, Can't seem to get any hits at all for "343 Rohnert Park," let alone Rohnert Park Expy W (or even expressway...). Neither can I find any Cheese Factory in Rohnert Park. Help??? Norm Weinfeld San Francisco From: gtwincams Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:36 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] NOBBC Drive - Saturday Hello NOBBC members, I've come up with a route that will give northern members time to get down to the Cheese Factory, where we will meet up with southern members. >From the Cheese factory, we'll head further south to Forest Knolls, through the GGNRA and Olema, ending in Marshall at the Oyster Co. for lunch. You may wish to bring your own lunch and drinks, and obviously, a full tank of gas. After lunch, probably about 1330 or so, members can depart taking the route of their choice. As you can see, this is not a long tour, but getting to the Cheese Factory will take time for most of us (Southern members may wish to select a starting point for their drive up to the Cheese Factory...), providing us with a total drive time of probably about 3 hours, minus stops. I have created a PDF file that shows the route and stops. There are extra stops shown at each intersection, just for clarity and to add a few minutes here and there for people to catch up. The PDF can be downloaded from my personal web page: http://home.pacbell.net/tatarian/NOBBC_SEPT_13.pdf See you Saturday! Cheers, Greg Tatarian _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gsb1159 at pacbell.net Wed Sep 10 14:55:00 2008 From: gsb1159 at pacbell.net (Greg Badano) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] SU fuel pump rebuild Message-ID: <168603.557.qm@web82903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello there, I'm getting close to joining the group on a ride. Unfortunately, my SU fuel pump is acting up. Is there anyone locally that has experience rebuilding/changing out the points and diaphram in these things? I've found some really helpful information on the web at this site http://homepages.donobi.net/sufuelpumps/, and could send the pump out for servicing for a very reasonable price, but if I could keep it local that would be my preference. I look forward to your suggestions. Thanks, Greg '59 AC Aceca From gtwincams at pacbell.net Wed Sep 10 15:07:13 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:07:13 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] NOBBC Drive - Saturday In-Reply-To: References: <47C456900A8C4389AA0C356333D3C03D@stevewbxu6x2qe><3924ed760809091715p2192f7ffn1a7f72ac6402603b@mail.gmail.com> <48C821AC.1050705@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <48C83701.60807@pacbell.net> Hi Norm, Sorry - the address for Sonoma Valley Bagel and Cafe in RP is actually 350 Rohnert Park Expressway - it didn't print correctly on my map. It is west of the freeway, across the Expressway from Target in a small shopping center. Lots of parking. The Cheese Factory is also called the Marin French Cheese, aka Rouge et Noir. It's at 7500 Red Hill Road (maps show it as Pt. Reyes - Petaluma Rd.). www.marinfrench*cheese*.com Cheers, Greg Norman Weinfeld wrote: > Greg, > > Can't seem to get any hits at all for "343 Rohnert Park," let alone Rohnert > Park Expy W (or even expressway...). Neither can I find any Cheese Factory in > Rohnert Park. Help??? > > Norm Weinfeld > San Francisco > > > From: gtwincams > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:36 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: [Nobbc] NOBBC Drive - Saturday > > > Hello NOBBC members, > > I've come up with a route that will give northern members time to get > down to the Cheese Factory, where we will meet up with southern members. > >From the Cheese factory, we'll head further south to Forest Knolls, > through the GGNRA and Olema, ending in Marshall at the Oyster Co. for > lunch. You may wish to bring your own lunch and drinks, and obviously, a > full tank of gas. After lunch, probably about 1330 or so, members can > depart taking the route of their choice. > > As you can see, this is not a long tour, but getting to the Cheese > Factory will take time for most of us (Southern members may wish to > select a starting point for their drive up to the Cheese Factory...), > providing us with a total drive time of probably about 3 hours, minus stops. > > I have created a PDF file that shows the route and stops. There are > extra stops shown at each intersection, just for clarity and to add a > few minutes here and there for people to catch up. The PDF can be > downloaded from my personal web page: > > http://home.pacbell.net/tatarian/NOBBC_SEPT_13.pdf > > See you Saturday! > > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sand at frii.com Wed Sep 10 15:10:54 2008 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:10:54 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] saturday-denver-send pics of nobbc. Message-ID: hi guys, your nobbc tr4a will be in the big denver conclave show sunday as a nobbc entry, at least im shooting for it. dee and i have decided not to committ to the saturday ride the rockys conclave event althow the entry forms are turned in-we will just have to see what saturday morn brings. back to back days are becomming difficut for me. therefore i have chosen sunday show over saturday ride. please send nobbc saturday ride photos up the mountain, thanks !!! steve. sand at frii.com From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com Wed Sep 10 15:15:23 2008 From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:15:23 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] NOBBC Drive - Saturday In-Reply-To: <47C456900A8C4389AA0C356333D3C03D@stevewbxu6x2qe><3924ed760809091715p2192f7ffn1a7f72ac6402603b@mail.gmail.com><48C821AC.1050705@pacbell.net> <48C83701.60807@pacbell.net> References: <47C456900A8C4389AA0C356333D3C03D@stevewbxu6x2qe><3924ed760809091715p2192f7ffn1a7f72ac6402603b@mail.gmail.com><48C821AC.1050705@pacbell.net> <48C83701.60807@pacbell.net> Message-ID: Greg, A thousand thanks for the instant response. Funny thing is that, while Google didn't, MapQuest found the 343 address just fine (minus the Cheese reference). So the clarification is most appreciated. And yes, Rouge et Noir I do know. Hoping to see you all there (after having recovered sufficiently from the Mjlie...). Norm From: gtwincams Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 2:07 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] NOBBC Drive - Saturday Hi Norm, Sorry - the address for Sonoma Valley Bagel and Cafe in RP is actually 350 Rohnert Park Expressway - it didn't print correctly on my map. It is west of the freeway, across the Expressway from Target in a small shopping center. Lots of parking. The Cheese Factory is also called the Marin French Cheese, aka Rouge et Noir. It's at 7500 Red Hill Road (maps show it as Pt. Reyes - Petaluma Rd.). www.marinfrench*cheese*.com Cheers, Greg Norman Weinfeld wrote: > Greg, > > Can't seem to get any hits at all for "343 Rohnert Park," let alone Rohnert > Park Expy W (or even expressway...). Neither can I find any Cheese Factory in > Rohnert Park. Help??? > > Norm Weinfeld > San Francisco > > > From: gtwincams > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:36 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: [Nobbc] NOBBC Drive - Saturday > > > Hello NOBBC members, > > I've come up with a route that will give northern members time to get > down to the Cheese Factory, where we will meet up with southern members. > >From the Cheese factory, we'll head further south to Forest Knolls, > through the GGNRA and Olema, ending in Marshall at the Oyster Co. for > lunch. You may wish to bring your own lunch and drinks, and obviously, a > full tank of gas. After lunch, probably about 1330 or so, members can > depart taking the route of their choice. > > As you can see, this is not a long tour, but getting to the Cheese > Factory will take time for most of us (Southern members may wish to > select a starting point for their drive up to the Cheese Factory...), > providing us with a total drive time of probably about 3 hours, minus stops. > > I have created a PDF file that shows the route and stops. There are > extra stops shown at each intersection, just for clarity and to add a > few minutes here and there for people to catch up. The PDF can be > downloaded from my personal web page: > > http://home.pacbell.net/tatarian/NOBBC_SEPT_13.pdf > > See you Saturday! > > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at pacbell.net Wed Sep 10 15:37:33 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:37:33 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] NOBBC Drive - Saturday In-Reply-To: References: <47C456900A8C4389AA0C356333D3C03D@stevewbxu6x2qe><3924ed760809091715p2192f7ffn1a7f72ac6402603b@mail.gmail.com><48C821AC.1050705@pacbell.net> <48C83701.60807@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <48C83E1D.3050406@pacbell.net> Hello All, I've just made a small correction to the map, and instead of written directions (try reading those while driving our cars!), there are now turn-by-turn maps. Hopefully none of you will need them, but they are part of the PDF map file. You can download the map file at http://home.pacbell.net/tatarian/NOBBC_SEPT_13.pdf Any questions, let me know. Cheers, Greg > > From: gtwincams > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 2:07 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] NOBBC Drive - Saturday > > > Hi Norm, > > Sorry - the address for Sonoma Valley Bagel and Cafe in RP is actually > 350 Rohnert Park Expressway - it didn't print correctly on my map. It is > west of the freeway, across the Expressway from Target in a small > shopping center. Lots of parking. > > The Cheese Factory is also called the Marin French Cheese, aka Rouge et > Noir. It's at 7500 Red Hill Road (maps show it as Pt. Reyes - Petaluma > Rd.). www.marinfrench*cheese*.com > > Cheers, > Greg > > > > Norman Weinfeld wrote: > >> Greg, >> >> Can't seem to get any hits at all for "343 Rohnert Park," let alone Rohnert >> Park Expy W (or even expressway...). Neither can I find any Cheese Factory >> > in > >> Rohnert Park. Help??? >> >> Norm Weinfeld >> San Francisco >> >> >> From: gtwincams >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:36 PM >> To: North Bay British Car Club >> Subject: [Nobbc] NOBBC Drive - Saturday >> >> >> Hello NOBBC members, >> >> I've come up with a route that will give northern members time to get >> down to the Cheese Factory, where we will meet up with southern members. >> >From the Cheese factory, we'll head further south to Forest Knolls, >> through the GGNRA and Olema, ending in Marshall at the Oyster Co. for >> lunch. You may wish to bring your own lunch and drinks, and obviously, a >> full tank of gas. After lunch, probably about 1330 or so, members can >> depart taking the route of their choice. >> >> As you can see, this is not a long tour, but getting to the Cheese >> Factory will take time for most of us (Southern members may wish to >> select a starting point for their drive up to the Cheese Factory...), >> providing us with a total drive time of probably about 3 hours, minus >> > stops. > >> I have created a PDF file that shows the route and stops. There are >> extra stops shown at each intersection, just for clarity and to add a >> few minutes here and there for people to catch up. The PDF can be >> downloaded from my personal web page: >> >> http://home.pacbell.net/tatarian/NOBBC_SEPT_13.pdf >> >> See you Saturday! >> >> Cheers, >> Greg Tatarian >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at pacbell.net Wed Sep 10 15:40:08 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:40:08 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] SU fuel pump rebuild In-Reply-To: <168603.557.qm@web82903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <168603.557.qm@web82903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48C83EB8.8000005@pacbell.net> Greg, Is it out of the question from an originality standpoint with your car to install an electronic version of your SU pump? They are now available and use the same pump housing, but eliminate the points. Very nice, more reliable, though a bit more expensive. Cheers, Greg Greg Badano wrote: > Hello there, > > I'm getting close to joining the group on a ride. Unfortunately, my SU fuel > pump is acting up. Is there anyone locally that has experience > rebuilding/changing out the points and diaphram in these things? I've found > some really helpful information on the web at this site > http://homepages.donobi.net/sufuelpumps/, and could send the pump out for > servicing for a very reasonable price, but if I could keep it local that would > be my preference. > > I look forward to your suggestions. > > Thanks, > > Greg > '59 AC Aceca > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From tonykorman at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 10 15:46:15 2008 From: tonykorman at sbcglobal.net (tony korman) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] SU fuel pump rebuild Message-ID: <653773.94689.qm@web81505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greg I suggest that you call Ron Larson, Larson Auto in Windsor. I forwarded name to the group a few weeks ago. He worked on my TR6 and it has never run like this before. He is a Volvo mechanic but he says that old Volvos had SU s or Strombergs like the British. He is reasonable and knows what he is doing. Tell him I sent you. I can't believe the difference after just one visit. 707 837 9816 Tony Korman 76 TR 6 ----- Original Message ---- From: Greg Badano To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:55:00 PM Subject: [Nobbc] SU fuel pump rebuild Hello there, I'm getting close to joining the group on a ride. Unfortunately, my SU fuel pump is acting up. Is there anyone locally that has experience rebuilding/changing out the points and diaphram in these things? I've found some really helpful information on the web at this site http://homepages.donobi.net/sufuelpumps/, and could send the pump out for servicing for a very reasonable price, but if I could keep it local that would be my preference. I look forward to your suggestions. Thanks, Greg '59 AC Aceca _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gsb1159 at pacbell.net Wed Sep 10 17:28:43 2008 From: gsb1159 at pacbell.net (Greg Badano) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] SU fuel pump rebuild In-Reply-To: <168603.557.qm@web82903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <801860.20788.qm@web82908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greg and Tony, Thanks very much for your suggestions on this. Best, Greg --- On Wed, 9/10/08, Greg Badano wrote: From: Greg Badano Subject: [Nobbc] SU fuel pump rebuild To: "North Bay British Car Club" Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 1:55 PM Hello there, I'm getting close to joining the group on a ride. Unfortunately, my SU fuel pump is acting up. Is there anyone locally that has experience rebuilding/changing out the points and diaphram in these things? I've found some really helpful information on the web at this site http://homepages.donobi.net/sufuelpumps/, and could send the pump out for servicing for a very reasonable price, but if I could keep it local that would be my preference. I look forward to your suggestions. Thanks, Greg '59 AC Aceca _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From CTWehn at cs.com Fri Sep 12 09:26:06 2008 From: CTWehn at cs.com (CTWehn at cs.com) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:26:06 EDT Subject: [Nobbc] NOBBC Drive - Saturday Message-ID: Hi Greg, Just so I'm clear (and maybe others), what time are we meeting in Rohnert Park? Sounds like a great route, see you there. Charlie TR6,7,8 From gtwincams at pacbell.net Fri Sep 12 10:30:44 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:30:44 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Sat Drive - Northern group meets Southern group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48CA9934.2050608@pacbell.net> Hi Charlie, Sorry if this was confusing. My goal is to make it more accessible for southern NOBBC members to attend a drive. To do that, northern members will join up with willing southern members at The Cheese Factory. However, to provide an opportunity for northern members to join up and drive together to The Cheese Factory, northern members (and any southern members that wish to do so) will first meet in Rohnert Park at 0930. We'll plan on leaving Rohnert Park at 0945, and it will take us about 45 minutes to get to the Cheese Factory, so we'll meet southern members there at around 1030. There is no need for southern members to meet in Rohnert Park unless they wish to do so. After a bit of time to use the facilities and chat, we'll leave The Cheese Factory at 11:15 or so. From there we'll continue as a larger group along the route shown. The downloadable map also shows the timeline on the stop-by-stop pages following the main route map. Thanks for asking for clarification - let me know if this still isn't clear. Finally, the weather is supposed to get warmer tomorrow, so it should be a nice day for the drive. Cheers, Greg CTWehn at cs.com wrote: > Hi Greg, > Just so I'm clear (and maybe others), what time are we meeting in Rohnert > Park? > > Sounds like a great route, see you there. > Charlie TR6,7,8 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From andypreston at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 12 18:39:58 2008 From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (Andy Preston) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:39:58 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] NOBBC Drive - Saturday In-Reply-To: <48C821AC.1050705@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <20080913004000.3741518766E@autox.team.net> Greg, sorry that we can't join you on Saturday we have another event planned. The route sounds great with lots of great roads. Have a great day, the weather promises to be wonderful. See you next time. Take care, Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of gtwincams Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:36 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] NOBBC Drive - Saturday Hello NOBBC members, I've come up with a route that will give northern members time to get down to the Cheese Factory, where we will meet up with southern members. >From the Cheese factory, we'll head further south to Forest Knolls, through the GGNRA and Olema, ending in Marshall at the Oyster Co. for lunch. You may wish to bring your own lunch and drinks, and obviously, a full tank of gas. After lunch, probably about 1330 or so, members can depart taking the route of their choice. As you can see, this is not a long tour, but getting to the Cheese Factory will take time for most of us (Southern members may wish to select a starting point for their drive up to the Cheese Factory...), providing us with a total drive time of probably about 3 hours, minus stops. I have created a PDF file that shows the route and stops. There are extra stops shown at each intersection, just for clarity and to add a few minutes here and there for people to catch up. The PDF can be downloaded from my personal web page: http://home.pacbell.net/tatarian/NOBBC_SEPT_13.pdf See you Saturday! Cheers, Greg Tatarian _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET Sat Sep 13 18:06:51 2008 From: FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET (JULIA KENNER) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:06:51 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] thanks greg Message-ID: <000d01c915fd$cb06cee0$61146ca0$@NET> THANKS TO GREG FOR ORGANIZING WHAT TURNED OUT TO BE A SPLENDID RIDE. TOO BAD ABOUT ALL THOSE BIKES. LET'S DO NICK'S COVE SOME OTHER TIME, JOHN KENNER LITTLE OLD LOTUS From nobbc at sonic.net Sat Sep 13 18:12:14 2008 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:12:14 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] thanks greg In-Reply-To: <000d01c915fd$cb06cee0$61146ca0$@NET> References: <000d01c915fd$cb06cee0$61146ca0$@NET> Message-ID: <48CC56DE.5030403@sonic.net> Dang, wish I could have been there! Anybody have any pictures? Ron 58 MGA JULIA KENNER wrote: > THANKS TO GREG FOR ORGANIZING WHAT TURNED OUT TO > > BE A SPLENDID RIDE. TOO BAD ABOUT ALL THOSE BIKES. > > > > LET'S DO NICK'S COVE SOME OTHER TIME, > > > > JOHN KENNER > > LITTLE OLD LOTUS > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com Sat Sep 13 18:18:25 2008 From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:18:25 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] thanks greg In-Reply-To: <000d01c915fd$cb06cee0$61146ca0$@NET> References: <000d01c915fd$cb06cee0$61146ca0$@NET> Message-ID: Here, here! I'll certainly second that! Splendid drive, splendid people, new and old. But yes, next time, if you could spray for bicycles first, that'd be a big help. Norm Weinfeld San Francisco Jag XK140 DHC From: JULIA KENNER Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 5:06 PM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: [Nobbc] thanks greg THANKS TO GREG FOR ORGANIZING WHAT TURNED OUT TO BE A SPLENDID RIDE. TOO BAD ABOUT ALL THOSE BIKES. LET'S DO NICK'S COVE SOME OTHER TIME, JOHN KENNER LITTLE OLD LOTUS _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at pacbell.net Sat Sep 13 20:18:29 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams at pacbell.net) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:18:29 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] thanks greg Message-ID: Thanks so much for the kind words and fine company. Wish I had known we would be swarmed by them bikes, but we did OK! I'll post photos in a zipped file on my personal web page for those who are interested, and let you all know when they are up. Turns out my temp. gauge was kaput - glad I used my aux. fan when it warmed up! Anyone care to put in a plug for one of the few gauge rebuilders that handle capillary tube types? Good thing is I have a spare, but it's not "correct" - measures in F not C. Cheers, Greg ------Original Message------ From: Norman Weinfeld Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net To: North Bay British Car Club ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Sep 13, 2008 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] thanks greg Here, here! I'll certainly second that! Splendid drive, splendid people, new and old. But yes, next time, if you could spray for bicycles first, that'd be a big help. Norm Weinfeld San Francisco Jag XK140 DHC From: JULIA KENNER Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 5:06 PM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: [Nobbc] thanks greg THANKS TO GREG FOR ORGANIZING WHAT TURNED OUT TO BE A SPLENDID RIDE. TOO BAD ABOUT ALL THOSE BIKES. LET'S DO NICK'S COVE SOME OTHER TIME, JOHN KENNER LITTLE OLD LOTUS _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From gtwincams at pacbell.net Sun Sep 14 09:17:30 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 08:17:30 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] REME - Peter In-Reply-To: References: <20080909032519.F09B11878B1@autox.team.net> <48C6DC9B.9010902@sonic.net> Message-ID: <48CD2B0A.3030209@pacbell.net> Thanks for your kind offer, Peter! Cheers, Greg P.S. Any original Minis on your club drives? Peter Ziedrich wrote: > Since I am sharing ideas... here's another one (a little shorter) > > http://redwoodempiremini.com/PDF/REME%20Tamalpais%20-%20Cheese%20Factory.pdf > > > > If your club ever wants to join us on a run or two, we have spirited monthly > runs all over the Bay Area and beyond. Feel free to review our map archive > for ideas to adapt to your club > runs. > > > > Peter Ziedrich > > Founder > > Redwood Empire Mini Enthusiasts > > zied at redwoodempiremini.com > > http://redwoodempiremini.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 1:29 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Next ride > > > > Well, if someone wants to volunteer to lead a Marin ride I'm all for it. > > The decision should be made today so notice can be put out to the rest > > of the gang. So how about it Nobbc, any volunteers??? > > > > Ron > > 58 MGA > > > > gtwincams at pacbell.net wrote: > > >> Hi Ron, et. al. >> > > >> I vote for a Marin drive, starting in Petaluma perhaps, heading west then >> > south. Sheryl and Dennis indicated some time ago that they had some good > ideas. It would be nice to meet up with some of our more southern members. > > >> Cheers, >> > > >> Greg >> > > > > >> ------Original Message------ >> > > >> From: Ron Engelhardt >> > > >> Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >> > > >> To: nobbc at autox.team.net >> > > >> ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club >> > > >> Sent: Sep 8, 2008 7:55 PM >> > > >> Subject: [Nobbc] Next ride >> > > > > >> Our next ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has any >> > > >> suggestions for a destination pipe up. Otherwise the group present will >> > > >> decide. As a suggestion, we haven't been to Berryessa in a while. The >> > > >> weather this time of year is usually perfect for Brit cars. >> > > > > >> Ron >> > > >> 58 MGA >> > > >> _______________________________________________ >> > > >> Nobbc mailing list >> > > >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> > > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> > > > > > > >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >> > > >> _______________________________________________ >> > > >> Nobbc mailing list >> > > >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> > > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > __________ NOD32 3429 (20080909) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at pacbell.net Mon Sep 15 20:23:49 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:23:49 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Photos uploaded Message-ID: <48CF18B5.6030807@pacbell.net> Hi All, I've crated a zipped folder containing some photos of our Saturday drive and uploaded it to my personal web site. The folder is big - about 11mb because each photo is high-res (10 mega-pixels), so downloading will take a little time. Your browser will probably prompt you to either save or open the folder - select save, then you will need to extract (or unzip) the files after you download. Go to: http://home.pacbell.net/tatarian/NOBBC_091308_Pics.zip Cheers, Greg From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com Mon Sep 15 21:36:03 2008 From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:36:03 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Photos uploaded In-Reply-To: <48CF18B5.6030807@pacbell.net> References: <48CF18B5.6030807@pacbell.net> Message-ID: Wonderful photos Greg. Thanks (again!!!). Norm Weinfeld San Francisco '55 Jag XK140 DHC From: gtwincams Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 7:23 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Photos uploaded Hi All, I've crated a zipped folder containing some photos of our Saturday drive and uploaded it to my personal web site. The folder is big - about 11mb because each photo is high-res (10 mega-pixels), so downloading will take a little time. Your browser will probably prompt you to either save or open the folder - select save, then you will need to extract (or unzip) the files after you download. Go to: http://home.pacbell.net/tatarian/NOBBC_091308_Pics.zip Cheers, Greg _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Tue Sep 16 00:22:27 2008 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:22:27 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Photos uploaded In-Reply-To: <48CF18B5.6030807@pacbell.net> References: <48CF18B5.6030807@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <48CF50A3.4000300@sonic.net> Thanks Greg! Wish I could have been there. Ron 58 MGA gtwincams wrote: > Hi All, > I've crated a zipped folder containing some photos of our Saturday drive > and uploaded it to my personal web site. The folder is big - about 11mb > because each photo is high-res (10 mega-pixels), so downloading will > take a little time. Your browser will probably prompt you to either save > or open the folder - select save, then you will need to extract (or > unzip) the files after you download. > Go to: > http://home.pacbell.net/tatarian/NOBBC_091308_Pics.zip > Cheers, > Greg > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From rlmossholder at comcast.net Tue Sep 16 08:26:45 2008 From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:26:45 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] timing and tuning Message-ID: <091620081426.9638.48CFC2250007E071000025A622070032019D0A0B0401089C9C0103049D@comcast.net> Hello, I wish I could have been on the ride this last weekend, sounds like you all had a great time. Nice photos too! I have a question about timing and tuning for my Spitfire. I have a Weber DGV carb and I just installed a 4-to-1 header. What type of adjustments to the timing and carb should I make? I've never turned a screw on a Weber before, and am a little nervous about changing any settings. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Rich M From gtwincams at pacbell.net Tue Sep 16 09:47:40 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:47:40 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] timing and tuning In-Reply-To: <091620081426.9638.48CFC2250007E071000025A622070032019D0A0B0401089C9C0103049D@comcast.net> References: <091620081426.9638.48CFC2250007E071000025A622070032019D0A0B0401089C9C0103049D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <48CFD51C.6090403@pacbell.net> Hi Rich, That's a complicated question - are you going for really accurate tuning, or just close enough? If the former, you either need to have the car tuned on a chassis dyno ("rolling road" in Brit-speak), or get one of the AFR meters that are available. The cost can be high for the logging types, but they are worth it because you can download real-time data to a computer to show A-F mixtures at different RPMs, etc. In general, using tube headers requires adjusting your carb(s) for a richer mixture; headers are designed to be better at scavenging exhaust gas, which tends to increase vacuum, which can lean out the mixture through the carbs. More specifically however, unless you know that your carb was tuned correctly for your stock exhaust, the lack of baseline data will make further adjustments hit-and-miss, which is the "close enough" approach. Plug cuts can help but aren't really that accurate, particularly because cuts should be done at high revs, preferably under load, which is when these engines sometimes tend to run-over, defeating the test. I'm not an expert on DGVs - I've only tuned a couple - but there is some good info online. Try Googling "tuning Weber DGV", and you'll come up with several. The good news is that these are easier and cheaper to dial in than sidedraft carbs, wither Weber or Dellorto. Here's one site just for Spitfires and GT6s - http://www.triumphspitfire.com/weber.html I think you'll find that you can do a serviceable job of getting your carb close (fair gas economy, limited stumbling or flat spots, etc.), but it will take some reading and fiddling (suggest lots or reading first). Obviously, either an amateur or pro who has tuned for this carb on this engine with headers will have a better idea of where to start... Cheers, Greg From rnapda at aol.com Tue Sep 16 10:14:57 2008 From: rnapda at aol.com (Richard Anderon) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:14:57 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Sat Drive - Northern group meets Southern group In-Reply-To: <48CA9934.2050608@pacbell.net> References: <48CA9934.2050608@pacbell.net> Message-ID: Hi Greg, I am an infrequent traveler with the group; where in Rohnert Park? Dick 67 Jag On Sep 12, 2008, at 9:30 AM, gtwincams wrote: > Hi Charlie, > > Sorry if this was confusing. My goal is to make it more accessible for > southern NOBBC members to attend a drive. To do that, northern members > will join up with willing southern members at The Cheese Factory. > > However, to provide an opportunity for northern members to join up and > drive together to The Cheese Factory, northern members (and any > southern > members that wish to do so) will first meet in Rohnert Park at 0930. > > We'll plan on leaving Rohnert Park at 0945, and it will take us > about 45 > minutes to get to the Cheese Factory, so we'll meet southern members > there at around 1030. There is no need for southern members to meet in > Rohnert Park unless they wish to do so. > > After a bit of time to use the facilities and chat, we'll leave The > Cheese Factory at 11:15 or so. From there we'll continue as a larger > group along the route shown. The downloadable map also shows the > timeline on the stop-by-stop pages following the main route map. > > Thanks for asking for clarification - let me know if this still isn't > clear. > > Finally, the weather is supposed to get warmer tomorrow, so it > should be > a nice day for the drive. > > Cheers, > Greg > > CTWehn at cs.com wrote: >> Hi Greg, >> Just so I'm clear (and maybe others), what time are we meeting in >> Rohnert >> Park? >> >> Sounds like a great route, see you there. >> Charlie TR6,7,8 >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From rlmossholder at comcast.net Tue Sep 16 12:44:26 2008 From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:44:26 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] timing and tuning Message-ID: <091620081844.26805.48CFFE8A00083C92000068B522070206539D0A0B0401089C9C0103049D@comcast.net> Thanks Greg, That's only one of the things I'm working on today. Building a new dash and rewiring, what a mess! Cheers, Rich -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: gtwincams > Hi Rich, > > That's a complicated question - are you going for really accurate > tuning, or just close enough? If the former, you either need to have the > car tuned on a chassis dyno ("rolling road" in Brit-speak), or get one > of the AFR meters that are available. The cost can be high for the > logging types, but they are worth it because you can download real-time > data to a computer to show A-F mixtures at different RPMs, etc. > > In general, using tube headers requires adjusting your carb(s) for a > richer mixture; headers are designed to be better at scavenging exhaust > gas, which tends to increase vacuum, which can lean out the mixture > through the carbs. More specifically however, unless you know that your > carb was tuned correctly for your stock exhaust, the lack of baseline > data will make further adjustments hit-and-miss, which is the "close > enough" approach. Plug cuts can help but aren't really that accurate, > particularly because cuts should be done at high revs, preferably under > load, which is when these engines sometimes tend to run-over, defeating > the test. > > I'm not an expert on DGVs - I've only tuned a couple - but there is some > good info online. Try Googling "tuning Weber DGV", and you'll come up > with several. The good news is that these are easier and cheaper to dial > in than sidedraft carbs, wither Weber or Dellorto. > > Here's one site just for Spitfires and GT6s - > http://www.triumphspitfire.com/weber.html > > I think you'll find that you can do a serviceable job of getting your > carb close (fair gas economy, limited stumbling or flat spots, etc.), > but it will take some reading and fiddling (suggest lots or reading > first). Obviously, either an amateur or pro who has tuned for this carb > on this engine with headers will have a better idea of where to start... > > Cheers, > Greg > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From CTWehn at cs.com Tue Sep 16 16:35:46 2008 From: CTWehn at cs.com (CTWehn at cs.com) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:35:46 EDT Subject: [Nobbc] thanks greg Message-ID: Greg (and Trish), Patty and I also want to thank you for a wonderful ride last Saturday. Except for the masses of bike riders it was a good route. I wonder if there is some way we can find out about such "events" and choose another route that day or reschedule for another day? Thanks for taking the Lead in Ron's absence. Hope your back's better, Ron. Cheers, Charlie TR6,7,8 From gtwincams at pacbell.net Tue Sep 16 17:25:45 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:25:45 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] thanks greg In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48D04079.1000406@pacbell.net> Hi Charlie, Thanks for the feedback. It took a good couple of hours plus to come up with the route, map it and post it to my website. I will never have the time to check for any and all events that could occur on one of our drives, though unfortunately the risk of conflicts with other people's activities does occur on some of the more populated routes. After you and Patty split from the group, we continued on with greatly decreased amounts of bike traffic and ended up in Tomales, had a relaxing lunch and chat, and a great drive home, so I still feel it was a successful drive, though I'm sorry if it was disappointing to some of the attendees. I had thought it would be nice to meet up with Marin members, but that idea didn't really pan out all that well, so I guess maybe we just stick to our Sonoma backroads in future? Cheers, Greg CTWehn at cs.com wrote: > Greg (and Trish), > Patty and I also want to thank you for a wonderful ride last > Saturday. Except for the masses of bike riders it was a good route. > I wonder if there is some way we can find out about such "events" and choose > another route that day or reschedule for another day? > Thanks for taking the Lead in Ron's absence. Hope your back's better, Ron. > > Cheers, > Charlie TR6,7,8 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com Tue Sep 16 17:45:13 2008 From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:45:13 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] thanks greg In-Reply-To: <48D04079.1000406@pacbell.net> References: <48D04079.1000406@pacbell.net> Message-ID: Greg, I for one was delighted with the ride. My jibe about spraying for bikes was a joke. Bikes happen. Beautiful Saturday Bay Area backroads? Bikes happen. Cows too... And as a FAR-south NOBBC member (dare I say San Francisco...), I very much appreciated the reach, even though I drove up to Rohnert Park anyway and enjoyed the splendid drive from there. I have to admit to wondering after drives previous (on returning home via jam-packed 101 South) what the blazes (almost literally...) I had been thinking. So ten cheers for you I say. Having led a tour or two myself, I know full well the work that can go into planning these things, and your almost over-the-top preparation (and then refinement!) in no way went unnoticed, nor did it that no one else in Ron's absence saw fit to "step up." To sum up, thanks for a grand time, Greg. Best, Norm Weinfeld San Francisco '55 Jag XK140 From: gtwincams Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 4:25 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] thanks greg Hi Charlie, Thanks for the feedback. It took a good couple of hours plus to come up with the route, map it and post it to my website. I will never have the time to check for any and all events that could occur on one of our drives, though unfortunately the risk of conflicts with other people's activities does occur on some of the more populated routes. After you and Patty split from the group, we continued on with greatly decreased amounts of bike traffic and ended up in Tomales, had a relaxing lunch and chat, and a great drive home, so I still feel it was a successful drive, though I'm sorry if it was disappointing to some of the attendees. I had thought it would be nice to meet up with Marin members, but that idea didn't really pan out all that well, so I guess maybe we just stick to our Sonoma backroads in future? Cheers, Greg CTWehn at cs.com wrote: > Greg (and Trish), > Patty and I also want to thank you for a wonderful ride last > Saturday. Except for the masses of bike riders it was a good route. > I wonder if there is some way we can find out about such "events" and choose > another route that day or reschedule for another day? > Thanks for taking the Lead in Ron's absence. Hope your back's better, Ron. > > Cheers, > Charlie TR6,7,8 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Tue Sep 16 17:50:30 2008 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:50:30 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Plans for next ride Message-ID: <48D04646.2070906@sonic.net> Our next ride will be on the Sept. 27th. Maybe we should try something new and start planning it well in advance. Greg did a great job of planning a route, start places and times, does anyone want to step up and do something similar for the next ride? There are no rules in this club so wherever and whenever you would like to go is up to you. If no one volunteers, we'll do the usual and figure it out with the group present. With over 125 members, surely someone can plan something. Ron 58 MGA From gtwincams at pacbell.net Tue Sep 16 18:11:54 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:11:54 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] thanks greg and Next Ride! In-Reply-To: References: <48D04079.1000406@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <48D04B4A.2000100@pacbell.net> Hi Norm, Thanks very much for the encouragement Norm. I'm very glad you had an enjoyable drive and time together with the members. I got a laugh out of your joke when I read it! I think you and Charlie expressed what we were all feeling at the time, and again, it ended up quite well (should have stuck around, Charlie). I think we all understand that whether pre-planned or not, we'll never be completely prepared for what's down the road... However, pre-planning is easier in some respects for me, since I tend to pick the same roads I'm used to if left to a last-minute decision, and really suck at remembering road names or the relationships of smaller roads to each other. Thank the Prince of Darkness (Lucas) that Trish was my navigator! It's fun to try new routes, and pre-planning them can work out pretty well, especially for those who would like to know where they will end up so they can plan their return home. To Ron: I'm happy to do more pre-planned routes, and think one helpful thing would be to come up with a tentative route 2 weeks or so ahead, let the members know about it, then if anyone knows of a conflict, closed road, bad road conditions, etc., they can let the planner know and the route can be easily readjusted. Avoiding conflicts with other Brit car club drives and classic car races would be pretty easy to do, but knowing when all the bike events are is way out of my league. Anyone have suggestions to float now, so the route can be worked out? Cheers, Greg From FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET Sat Sep 20 11:59:17 2008 From: FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET (JULIA KENNER) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:59:17 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] SMALL CAR TRAILER FOR SALE Message-ID: <000901c91b4a$9a5d85c0$cf189140$@NET> I HAVE A LOVELY LITTLE CAR TRAILER FOR SALE. ONLY THE SMALLEST OF SPORTS CARS WILL FIT ON IT, ALTHOUGH THE GUY I BOUGHT IT FROM USED IT FOR A HEALEY. IT IS A BIG TEX TILTING TRAILER, VERY EASY TO GET YOUR CAR ON AND OFF. NEW TAILIGHTS AND WIRING. KEPT INDOORS. THE BED IS 59" WIDE X 140" LONG. IT IS RATED FOR 2900 LBS. IT ALSO HAS STAKE POCKETS. MY ELAN FITS ON IT NICELY BUT NOT MY TRIUMPHS. LOCATED IN SEBASTOPOL. PICTURES UPON REQUEST. $1,100.00 CALL JOHN KENNER 415 806 2457 THANKS From CTWehn at cs.com Sat Sep 20 17:32:50 2008 From: CTWehn at cs.com (CTWehn at cs.com) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:32:50 EDT Subject: [Nobbc] thanks greg Message-ID: Greg, My comment about finding out about other events that conflict with our scheduled rides, i.e. bicycle rides, was in no way directed at you. I was asking a general question to all of the club members. Patty and I had a wonderful day and ride. After we continued thru Tamales we ended up in Valley Ford at a deli across from Denucchi's restaurant and enjoyed a delicious lunch. Then we headed for home in Sebastopol where we had plenty of the day left to do our neglected chores. Good timing on the ride route! Till next time, Charlie TR6,7,8 p.s. Just returned from the Calistoga Car Show and saw a TR4A IRS, MGB, Jaguar XKE, and an Austin Healey 100, squeezed in with 100's of hot rods. A small British invasion. From haiku99 at gmail.com Sat Sep 20 22:59:55 2008 From: haiku99 at gmail.com (Bill Crowe) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:59:55 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] thanks greg In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <188b620b0809202159t3ffee32ch7a7f22b2314dc099@mail.gmail.com> many of the local cycling events are listed at http://bikecal.com/index.asp On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 3:35 PM, wrote: > Greg (and Trish), > Patty and I also want to thank you for a wonderful ride last > Saturday. Except for the masses of bike riders it was a good route. > I wonder if there is some way we can find out about such "events" and > choose > another route that day or reschedule for another day? > Thanks for taking the Lead in Ron's absence. Hope your back's better, Ron. > > Cheers, > Charlie TR6,7,8 > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From haiku99 at gmail.com Sat Sep 20 23:03:19 2008 From: haiku99 at gmail.com (Bill Crowe) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:03:19 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] thanks greg and Next Ride! In-Reply-To: <48D04B4A.2000100@pacbell.net> References: <48D04079.1000406@pacbell.net> <48D04B4A.2000100@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <188b620b0809202203p1a35d48an4d6e9fd5c5ea9997@mail.gmail.com> many of the local bicycle events are listed at http://bikecal.com/index.asp Bill On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 5:11 PM, gtwincams wrote: > Hi Norm, > > Thanks very much for the encouragement Norm. I'm very glad you had an > enjoyable drive and time together with the members. I got a laugh out of > your joke when I read it! I think you and Charlie expressed what we were > all feeling at the time, and again, it ended up quite well (should have > stuck around, Charlie). I think we all understand that whether > pre-planned or not, we'll never be completely prepared for what's down > the road... > > However, pre-planning is easier in some respects for me, since I tend to > pick the same roads I'm used to if left to a last-minute decision, and > really suck at remembering road names or the relationships of smaller > roads to each other. Thank the Prince of Darkness (Lucas) that Trish was > my navigator! It's fun to try new routes, and pre-planning them can work > out pretty well, especially for those who would like to know where they > will end up so they can plan their return home. > > To Ron: > I'm happy to do more pre-planned routes, and think one helpful thing > would be to come up with a tentative route 2 weeks or so ahead, let the > members know about it, then if anyone knows of a conflict, closed road, > bad road conditions, etc., they can let the planner know and the route > can be easily readjusted. Avoiding conflicts with other Brit car club > drives and classic car races would be pretty easy to do, but knowing > when all the bike events are is way out of my league. > > Anyone have suggestions to float now, so the route can be worked out? > > Cheers, > Greg > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at pacbell.net Sun Sep 21 08:51:28 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:51:28 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Avoiding Bike Events In-Reply-To: <188b620b0809202203p1a35d48an4d6e9fd5c5ea9997@mail.gmail.com> References: <48D04079.1000406@pacbell.net> <48D04B4A.2000100@pacbell.net> <188b620b0809202203p1a35d48an4d6e9fd5c5ea9997@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48D65F70.8000607@pacbell.net> Hi Bill, Thanks for that useful suggestion. Cheers, Greg Bill Crowe wrote: > many of the local bicycle events are listed at http://bikecal.com/index.asp > > Bill > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 5:11 PM, gtwincams wrote: From haiku99 at gmail.com Sun Sep 21 18:17:41 2008 From: haiku99 at gmail.com (Bill Crowe) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:17:41 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Avoiding Bike Events In-Reply-To: <48D65F70.8000607@pacbell.net> References: <48D04079.1000406@pacbell.net> <48D04B4A.2000100@pacbell.net> <188b620b0809202203p1a35d48an4d6e9fd5c5ea9997@mail.gmail.com> <48D65F70.8000607@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <188b620b0809211717w7539881bp3bcc01102abee097@mail.gmail.com> you are welcome....I do a lot of cycling, but agree that large numbers of bicycles are a huge pain in the arse when driving, especially since some are piloted very badly. Bill On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 7:51 AM, gtwincams wrote: > Hi Bill, > Thanks for that useful suggestion. > Cheers, > Greg > > > > Bill Crowe wrote: > > many of the local bicycle events are listed at > http://bikecal.com/index.asp > > > > Bill > > > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 5:11 PM, gtwincams > wrote: > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at pacbell.net Wed Sep 24 12:05:38 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:05:38 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Steering wheel hub? Message-ID: <48DA8172.2020005@pacbell.net> Hello NOBBC'ers, Does anyone out there have an idea what Brit (or other classic) car has a steering column shaft that is straight with a key rather than splines? I've got a wheel hub here that fits on a 22mm diameter keyed shaft, and I can't figure out what it's for... Thanks, Greg Tatarian From gtwincams at pacbell.net Wed Sep 24 18:13:42 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:13:42 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] SEMA-SAN for auto hobby Message-ID: <48DAD7B6.6040802@pacbell.net> For those interested in a really informative web site and pro-auto hobby lobbying organization, check out the SEMA Action Network at: http://www.semasan.com/main/main.aspx?ID=/content/SEMASANcom/HomePage There's information on current legislative bills, pending legislation, names of legislators, including those who support the auto hobby. Good info to keep on hand! Cheers, Greg Tatarian From nobbc at sonic.net Wed Sep 24 18:29:29 2008 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:29:29 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday 9/27/08 Message-ID: <48DADB69.6060200@sonic.net> It's ride time again! We'll meet in the commuter lot just west of 101 on River Rd. at 10 AM. No ride offers have been submitted so the group present will decide where to go. Ron 58 MGA From rbrown at injexindustries.com Wed Sep 24 19:26:46 2008 From: rbrown at injexindustries.com (Richard Brown) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:26:46 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday 9/27/08 In-Reply-To: <48DADB69.6060200@sonic.net> References: <48DADB69.6060200@sonic.net> Message-ID: <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294A53C99C5FF@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com> Ron, what about the Berryessa this time? Richard 68 XKE FHC -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 5:29 PM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday 9/27/08 It's ride time again! We'll meet in the commuter lot just west of 101 on River Rd. at 10 AM. No ride offers have been submitted so the group present will decide where to go. Ron 58 MGA _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Wed Sep 24 19:46:47 2008 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:46:47 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday 9/27/08 In-Reply-To: <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294A53C99C5FF@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com> References: <48DADB69.6060200@sonic.net> <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294A53C99C5FF@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com> Message-ID: <48DAED87.7070502@sonic.net> Sounds good to me, what do the rest of you think? Ron 58 MGA Richard Brown wrote: > Ron, what about the Berryessa this time? > > Richard > 68 XKE FHC > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 5:29 PM > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday 9/27/08 > > It's ride time again! We'll meet in the commuter lot just west of 101 on River > Rd. at 10 AM. No ride offers have been submitted so the group present will > decide where to go. > > Ron > 58 MGA > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From rbrown at injexindustries.com Wed Sep 24 21:22:34 2008 From: rbrown at injexindustries.com (Richard Brown) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:22:34 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday 9/27/08 In-Reply-To: <48DAED87.7070502@sonic.net> References: <48DADB69.6060200@sonic.net> <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294A53C99C5FF@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com> <48DAED87.7070502@sonic.net> Message-ID: <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294A53C97B3F3@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com> Or if its hot, someone had suggested a ride out to the coast to ????Cove a couple of weeks ago? Richard 68 XKE FHC -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:47 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Saturday 9/27/08 Sounds good to me, what do the rest of you think? Ron 58 MGA Richard Brown wrote: > Ron, what about the Berryessa this time? > > Richard > 68 XKE FHC > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 5:29 PM > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday 9/27/08 > > It's ride time again! We'll meet in the commuter lot just west of 101 on River > Rd. at 10 AM. No ride offers have been submitted so the group present will > decide where to go. > > Ron > 58 MGA > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sand at frii.com Thu Sep 25 08:24:13 2008 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:24:13 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] berryessa ride-dont 4-get.............. Message-ID: <24AABAD2B79A4196BB6B95E2F4F269FB@stevewbxu6x2qe> fasten on your front cali plates !!!!!! i think that pic just may be on rides from the past on website- if not ron can tell the story !!!!!!! From DPaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us Thu Sep 25 08:53:33 2008 From: DPaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us (Paige, Dean) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 07:53:33 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday 9/27/08 In-Reply-To: <48DADB69.6060200@sonic.net> Message-ID: <38EB329C843ED444A8CF05627CC4BFA612B738@mail2.sr.local> Once again Pia and I will not be able to make Saturday's ride. We are off to S. F. early Saturday for two days of museum crawling. Staying in a condo on Telegraph Hill just off the Embarcadero that is owned by Frank Falzone the lead investigator for SFPD on the Zodiac and other mass murder cases. Quite the character. Nice place too. Anyway I hope to get in on the next tour. Happy motoring all. Deano -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 5:29 PM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday 9/27/08 It's ride time again! We'll meet in the commuter lot just west of 101 on River Rd. at 10 AM. No ride offers have been submitted so the group present will decide where to go. Ron 58 MGA _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From DPaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us Thu Sep 25 08:54:02 2008 From: DPaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us (Paige, Dean) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 07:54:02 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday 9/27/08 In-Reply-To: <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294A53C99C5FF@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com> Message-ID: <38EB329C843ED444A8CF05627CC4BFA612B739@mail2.sr.local> Oh hell now I'm jealous! Deano -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Brown Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:27 PM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Saturday 9/27/08 Ron, what about the Berryessa this time? Richard 68 XKE FHC -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 5:29 PM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday 9/27/08 It's ride time again! We'll meet in the commuter lot just west of 101 on River Rd. at 10 AM. No ride offers have been submitted so the group present will decide where to go. Ron 58 MGA _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at pacbell.net Thu Sep 25 09:50:24 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:50:24 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] berryessa ride-dont 4-get.............. In-Reply-To: <24AABAD2B79A4196BB6B95E2F4F269FB@stevewbxu6x2qe> References: <24AABAD2B79A4196BB6B95E2F4F269FB@stevewbxu6x2qe> Message-ID: <48DBB340.2040604@pacbell.net> Good point, Steve! Some localities are pretty tough about that. There is an online petition for the repeal of that requirement, which could be modified to include a discussion about classic cars and the difficulty of fitting a front plate for some (completely blocks the air intake on a Lotus Elan, for example, and really hard to get it at least 12" off the ground!). Given the growing number of red-light cameras, it's doubtful the California Legislature would want to give up the revenue stream however... http://www.petitiononline.com/caplate/petition.html Here's some vehicle code on positioning of plates: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d03/vc5201.htm Not sure if I'll make the drive either - there's a Lotus club tech session and an Alfa club tech session on the same day. Cheers, Greg Steve Lehmann wrote: > fasten on your front cali plates !!!!!! > > i think that pic just may be on rides from the past on website- > if not ron can tell the story !!!!!!! > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sand at frii.com Thu Sep 25 10:09:56 2008 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:09:56 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] berryessa ride-dont 4-get.............. References: <24AABAD2B79A4196BB6B95E2F4F269FB@stevewbxu6x2qe> <48DBB340.2040604@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <505F8420D9434BD2A6F5DB05415C5A78@stevewbxu6x2qe> yea maybe 4-5 years ago we stopped beside berryessa for lunch and were approached by a sherriff- we told him we would be clad to move our cars if needed- in return he wrote all cars a tic w/o front plates- abought 4 of us there was a pic of us holding our tics w/ our cars at berryessa on the website for a long time as i recall this guys name was officer stanley. quess he had to make his quota. here in colorado you can not have a clear cover over your plates-i suposses it reflects camera shots !!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "gtwincams" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] berryessa ride-dont 4-get.............. > Good point, Steve! Some localities are pretty tough about that. > > There is an online petition for the repeal of that requirement, which > could be modified to include a discussion about classic cars and the > difficulty of fitting a front plate for some (completely blocks the air > intake on a Lotus Elan, for example, and really hard to get it at least > 12" off the ground!). Given the growing number of red-light cameras, > it's doubtful the California Legislature would want to give up the > revenue stream however... > > http://www.petitiononline.com/caplate/petition.html > > Here's some vehicle code on positioning of plates: > http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d03/vc5201.htm > > Not sure if I'll make the drive either - there's a Lotus club tech > session and an Alfa club tech session on the same day. > > Cheers, > Greg > > > > > Steve Lehmann wrote: >> fasten on your front cali plates !!!!!! >> >> i think that pic just may be on rides from the past on website- >> if not ron can tell the story !!!!!!! >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Thu Sep 25 10:19:59 2008 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:19:59 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] berryessa ride-dont 4-get.............. In-Reply-To: <48DBB340.2040604@pacbell.net> References: <24AABAD2B79A4196BB6B95E2F4F269FB@stevewbxu6x2qe> <48DBB340.2040604@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <48DBBA2F.1030806@sonic.net> Thanks for the link Greg. I went ahead and signed the petition and urge all members to do the same. I think I have gotten 3 or 4 tickets for no front plate over the years I've owned the car (including the one from the mass ticketing by Sgt. Stanley aka rat bastard in Napa). They are "fixit" type tickets but still rankle. My car has never had a front plate and has no mounting location for one. I hope you can make the ride or at least come to the meet. Ron 58 MGA gtwincams wrote: > Good point, Steve! Some localities are pretty tough about that. > > There is an online petition for the repeal of that requirement, which > could be modified to include a discussion about classic cars and the > difficulty of fitting a front plate for some (completely blocks the air > intake on a Lotus Elan, for example, and really hard to get it at least > 12" off the ground!). Given the growing number of red-light cameras, > it's doubtful the California Legislature would want to give up the > revenue stream however... > > http://www.petitiononline.com/caplate/petition.html > > Here's some vehicle code on positioning of plates: > http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d03/vc5201.htm > > Not sure if I'll make the drive either - there's a Lotus club tech > session and an Alfa club tech session on the same day. > > Cheers, > Greg > > > > > Steve Lehmann wrote: > >>fasten on your front cali plates !!!!!! >> >>i think that pic just may be on rides from the past on website- >>if not ron can tell the story !!!!!!! >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc mailing list >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at pacbell.net Thu Sep 25 10:32:19 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:32:19 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] berryessa ride-dont 4-get.............. In-Reply-To: <48DBBA2F.1030806@sonic.net> References: <24AABAD2B79A4196BB6B95E2F4F269FB@stevewbxu6x2qe> <48DBB340.2040604@pacbell.net> <48DBBA2F.1030806@sonic.net> Message-ID: <48DBBD13.6070708@pacbell.net> Thanks Ron and Steve, YIKES!! Four citations at once. You know he was chuckling to himself in the car afterwards... If I recall, the fine is $25? Good to avoid if possible, but really, many of our cars simply can't fit a front plate without looking like crap or drilling into the body. Considering some red light cams can take pics of rear plates also, it doesn't seem necessary for law enforcement. Cheers, Greg Ron Engelhardt wrote: > Thanks for the link Greg. I went ahead and signed the petition and urge > all members to do the same. I think I have gotten 3 or 4 tickets for no > front plate over the years I've owned the car (including the one from > the mass ticketing by Sgt. Stanley aka rat bastard in Napa). They are > "fixit" type tickets but still rankle. My car has never had a front > plate and has no mounting location for one. I hope you can make the ride > or at least come to the meet. > > Ron > 58 MGA From mewgull at sonic.net Thu Sep 25 11:54:59 2008 From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:54:59 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] berryessa ride-dont 4-get.............. In-Reply-To: <48DBBA2F.1030806@sonic.net> References: <24AABAD2B79A4196BB6B95E2F4F269FB@stevewbxu6x2qe> <48DBB340.2040604@pacbell.net> <48DBBA2F.1030806@sonic.net> Message-ID: Hi All, I believe that this is no longer a simple fixit ticket. I read a couple years ago that it was a fixit with a mandatory $80 'processing' fee included. San Francisco seems to be the jurisdiction most rabid about this 'violation' and it's the meter maids issuing most of the tickets. I think there is something in the DMV regs about successive violations incurring increasing financial penalties. The obvious conclusion is that this has very little (Nothing!) to do with safety and everything to do with revenue enhancement. Gerry Mugele On Sep 25, 2008, at 9:19 AM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > Thanks for the link Greg. I went ahead and signed the petition and > urge > all members to do the same. I think I have gotten 3 or 4 tickets for > no > front plate over the years I've owned the car (including the one from > the mass ticketing by Sgt. Stanley aka rat bastard in Napa). They are > "fixit" type tickets but still rankle. My car has never had a front > plate and has no mounting location for one. I hope you can make the > ride > or at least come to the meet G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."  Winston Churchill From DPaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us Thu Sep 25 12:39:01 2008 From: DPaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us (Paige, Dean) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:39:01 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] berryessa ride-dont 4-get.............. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <38EB329C843ED444A8CF05627CC4BFA612B73C@mail2.sr.local> Got one of these on the VDP outside of Fog City Diner a couple of months ago. At that time it was a fix it and had only a $10 processing fee. Had the ticket signed off by the Windsor PD forwarded a copy to S. F. No problem. Things may have since changed. I am however prepared. Have used an old lic plate frame and plate and attached pieces of coat hanger that I can clip right on to the chrome bar on the air intake of the VDP. 2 minute job used often in S F. YRMV Deano -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of G. Mugele Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:55 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] berryessa ride-dont 4-get.............. Hi All, I believe that this is no longer a simple fixit ticket. I read a couple years ago that it was a fixit with a mandatory $80 'processing' fee included. San Francisco seems to be the jurisdiction most rabid about this 'violation' and it's the meter maids issuing most of the tickets. I think there is something in the DMV regs about successive violations incurring increasing financial penalties. The obvious conclusion is that this has very little (Nothing!) to do with safety and everything to do with revenue enhancement. Gerry Mugele On Sep 25, 2008, at 9:19 AM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > Thanks for the link Greg. I went ahead and signed the petition and > urge all members to do the same. I think I have gotten 3 or 4 tickets > for no front plate over the years I've owned the car (including the > one from the mass ticketing by Sgt. Stanley aka rat bastard in Napa). > They are "fixit" type tickets but still rankle. My car has never had a > front plate and has no mounting location for one. I hope you can make > the ride or at least come to the meet G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."  Winston Churchill _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at pacbell.net Thu Sep 25 15:54:53 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:54:53 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Long-range planning for Tour! Message-ID: <48DC08AD.1090304@pacbell.net> Hello members, On the assumption that our crappy economy will be improving by next Spring, I am hoping to generate a really nice turnout for a tour we'll be leading to Napa. As a special treat, Trish and I will be leading a trip that will include visiting my long-time clients and friends at Saintsbury, a small, excellent winery in the Carneros, a registered appellation for Pinot Noir and Chardonnay. Saintsbury is normally closed on the weekends, but Dave Graves, co-owner and friend, will host us there for tasting, relaxation, and a place to eat our lunch (bring your own picnic) at a beautiful location with ample parking, right off of Hwy. 121 west of 29. Dave will provide a tour of the winery for those who are interested, and tasting will be from the barrel (!) as well as the bottle for those who would like to partake. See: http://www.saintsbury.com/ I am aware that some of us are not interested in wine tasting when going on our drives, yet some of us are (passengers, here's your chance), and we often make stops at wineries for lunch and breaks. This will be more personalized, since the winery will not be open to the public, and the setting is really nice. Also, we'll figure out an interesting drive that will combine twisty backroads and maybe a few main roads so we can let the public see our beautiful cars as we motor on our way. And yes, I will do my best to schedule this when no bike races are happening on our route! Why am I telling you all so much in advance? Well, to generate interest, and give you time to schedule this drive and provide suggestions as to parts of the route you'd like included (please email me directly at gtwincams at pacbell.net . I will be extending the invitation to the Golden Gate Lotus Club members as well, like I did for my last tech session. Pencil this onto your calendars, folks, and stay posted as we develop tour plans during the winter. Cheers, Greg Tatarian From nobbc at sonic.net Thu Sep 25 16:49:32 2008 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:49:32 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Long-range planning for Tour! In-Reply-To: <48DC08AD.1090304@pacbell.net> References: <48DC08AD.1090304@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <48DC157C.8040902@sonic.net> Excellent! Just he kind of thing this club needs to generate interest and thrive. I'm looking forward to attending and await further details. Thanks, Ron 58 MGA gtwincams wrote: > Hello members, > > On the assumption that our crappy economy will be improving by next > Spring, I am hoping to generate a really nice turnout for a tour we'll > be leading to Napa. As a special treat, Trish and I will be leading a > trip that will include visiting my long-time clients and friends at > Saintsbury, a small, excellent winery in the Carneros, a registered > appellation for Pinot Noir and Chardonnay. Saintsbury is normally closed > on the weekends, but Dave Graves, co-owner and friend, will host us > there for tasting, relaxation, and a place to eat our lunch (bring your > own picnic) at a beautiful location with ample parking, right off of > Hwy. 121 west of 29. Dave will provide a tour of the winery for those > who are interested, and tasting will be from the barrel (!) as well as > the bottle for those who would like to partake. > > See: > http://www.saintsbury.com/ > > I am aware that some of us are not interested in wine tasting when going > on our drives, yet some of us are (passengers, here's your chance), and > we often make stops at wineries for lunch and breaks. This will be more > personalized, since the winery will not be open to the public, and the > setting is really nice. Also, we'll figure out an interesting drive that > will combine twisty backroads and maybe a few main roads so we can let > the public see our beautiful cars as we motor on our way. And yes, I > will do my best to schedule this when no bike races are happening on our > route! > > Why am I telling you all so much in advance? Well, to generate interest, > and give you time to schedule this drive and provide suggestions as to > parts of the route you'd like included (please email me directly at > gtwincams at pacbell.net . I will be extending the invitation to the Golden > Gate Lotus Club members as well, like I did for my last tech session. > > Pencil this onto your calendars, folks, and stay posted as we develop > tour plans during the winter. > > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Thu Sep 25 16:50:40 2008 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:50:40 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Long-range planning for Tour! In-Reply-To: <48DC08AD.1090304@pacbell.net> References: <48DC08AD.1090304@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <95a735e60809251550p241c374k2edf9e8793a8df3b@mail.gmail.com> Sounds wonderful; I may even have the Mark 2 Jag there! On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 2:54 PM, gtwincams wrote: > Hello members, > > On the assumption that our crappy economy will be improving by next > Spring, I am hoping to generate a really nice turnout for a tour we'll > be leading to Napa. As a special treat, Trish and I will be leading a > trip that will include visiting my long-time clients and friends at > Saintsbury, a small, excellent winery in the Carneros, a registered > appellation for Pinot Noir and Chardonnay. Saintsbury is normally closed > on the weekends, but Dave Graves, co-owner and friend, will host us > there for tasting, relaxation, and a place to eat our lunch (bring your > own picnic) at a beautiful location with ample parking, right off of > Hwy. 121 west of 29. Dave will provide a tour of the winery for those > who are interested, and tasting will be from the barrel (!) as well as > the bottle for those who would like to partake. > > See: > http://www.saintsbury.com/ > > I am aware that some of us are not interested in wine tasting when going > on our drives, yet some of us are (passengers, here's your chance), and > we often make stops at wineries for lunch and breaks. This will be more > personalized, since the winery will not be open to the public, and the > setting is really nice. Also, we'll figure out an interesting drive that > will combine twisty backroads and maybe a few main roads so we can let > the public see our beautiful cars as we motor on our way. And yes, I > will do my best to schedule this when no bike races are happening on our > route! > > Why am I telling you all so much in advance? Well, to generate interest, > and give you time to schedule this drive and provide suggestions as to > parts of the route you'd like included (please email me directly at > gtwincams at pacbell.net . I will be extending the invitation to the Golden > Gate Lotus Club members as well, like I did for my last tech session. > > Pencil this onto your calendars, folks, and stay posted as we develop > tour plans during the winter. > > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com Thu Sep 25 17:04:23 2008 From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:04:23 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Long-range planning for Tour! In-Reply-To: <48DC08AD.1090304@pacbell.net> <95a735e60809251550p241c374k2edf9e8793a8df3b@mail.gmail.com> References: <48DC08AD.1090304@pacbell.net> <95a735e60809251550p241c374k2edf9e8793a8df3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sounds like a great idea Greg. Unfortunately, the wife and I will be down in San Simeon this weekend with the Imperial club and my '56 coup (all 19+ feet and 5,500 pounds of it...) so no sports-caring for me this time, but wine tasting is something I'm always up for. In fact, it was all I could do to keep from stopping at a few of those along the Silverado Trail a couple of weeks back. Twomy has been on my list for a long time and Clos Pegase is one of my favorites. While I must confess to being more of a Cabernet than a Pinot devotee, the private tour with barrel-tasting sounds like something not to be missed for sure. Norm Weinfeld San Francisco '55 Jag XK140 DHC P.S. Had a Mark II 3.8 a million years ago and would love to follow one down the road on a tour! From: Robin Jackson Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 3:50 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Long-range planning for Tour! Sounds wonderful; I may even have the Mark 2 Jag there! On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 2:54 PM, gtwincams wrote: > Hello members, > > On the assumption that our crappy economy will be improving by next > Spring, I am hoping to generate a really nice turnout for a tour we'll > be leading to Napa. As a special treat, Trish and I will be leading a > trip that will include visiting my long-time clients and friends at > Saintsbury, a small, excellent winery in the Carneros, a registered > appellation for Pinot Noir and Chardonnay. Saintsbury is normally closed > on the weekends, but Dave Graves, co-owner and friend, will host us > there for tasting, relaxation, and a place to eat our lunch (bring your > own picnic) at a beautiful location with ample parking, right off of > Hwy. 121 west of 29. Dave will provide a tour of the winery for those > who are interested, and tasting will be from the barrel (!) as well as > the bottle for those who would like to partake. > > See: > http://www.saintsbury.com/ > > I am aware that some of us are not interested in wine tasting when going > on our drives, yet some of us are (passengers, here's your chance), and > we often make stops at wineries for lunch and breaks. This will be more > personalized, since the winery will not be open to the public, and the > setting is really nice. Also, we'll figure out an interesting drive that > will combine twisty backroads and maybe a few main roads so we can let > the public see our beautiful cars as we motor on our way. And yes, I > will do my best to schedule this when no bike races are happening on our > route! > > Why am I telling you all so much in advance? Well, to generate interest, > and give you time to schedule this drive and provide suggestions as to > parts of the route you'd like included (please email me directly at > gtwincams at pacbell.net . I will be extending the invitation to the Golden > Gate Lotus Club members as well, like I did for my last tech session. > > Pencil this onto your calendars, folks, and stay posted as we develop > tour plans during the winter. > > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at pacbell.net Thu Sep 25 17:26:15 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:26:15 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Long-range planning for Tour! In-Reply-To: References: <48DC08AD.1090304@pacbell.net> <95a735e60809251550p241c374k2edf9e8793a8df3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48DC1E17.1060208@pacbell.net> Hallo, It's great to hear there is interest in this drive! Thanks so much for the feedback Ron, Norm, Robin, John. I'll pass on little tidbits about Saintsbury, Dave Graves, and my long association with them throughout the next months as I develop the route. We'll shoot for the first stable, good weather in the Spring when it's warm enough to enjoy being outside in their beautiful garden. I've already mapped out part of the route, which includes the always exciting Trinity Road. Between Streets and Trips, Live Search Maps, and Google Earth, I'm spotting all the good turnouts for stragglers to get caught up. Here's one tidbit; Dave has always loved British cars. As a kid he helped his brother work on his Midget and TR4. He's really looking forward to having us visit, so let's get a good-sized group together. Norman, you'll have plenty of time to decide what bottle of Cab you wish to bring, but I think you'll like their Pinot - it's one of the best I've ever had (and I've worked for about 30 wineries, many of which provide samples). Robin, you now have a goal line for the Jag. If it doesn't happen, we'll make sure you get a ride, either with Trish or myself, or another member! In the meantime, the drive this Saturday should be great. Cheers, Greg From techyes at pacbell.net Thu Sep 25 17:54:55 2008 From: techyes at pacbell.net (Sheryl) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] Long-range planning for Tour! Message-ID: <266738.4052.qm@web83604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Dennis & Sheryl will be at the Lake Tahoe Marathon this weekend, so we won't be on the drive. Regarding the Tour - sounds like a great drive and I am sure we will be a part of it! Enjoy yourselves! Dennis & Sheryl 1976 MGB x 2 ----- Original Message ---- From: gtwincams To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:26:15 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Long-range planning for Tour! Hallo, It's great to hear there is interest in this drive! Thanks so much for the feedback Ron, Norm, Robin, John. I'll pass on little tidbits about Saintsbury, Dave Graves, and my long association with them throughout the next months as I develop the route. We'll shoot for the first stable, good weather in the Spring when it's warm enough to enjoy being outside in their beautiful garden. I've already mapped out part of the route, which includes the always exciting Trinity Road. Between Streets and Trips, Live Search Maps, and Google Earth, I'm spotting all the good turnouts for stragglers to get caught up. Here's one tidbit; Dave has always loved British cars. As a kid he helped his brother work on his Midget and TR4. He's really looking forward to having us visit, so let's get a good-sized group together. Norman, you'll have plenty of time to decide what bottle of Cab you wish to bring, but I think you'll like their Pinot - it's one of the best I've ever had (and I've worked for about 30 wineries, many of which provide samples). Robin, you now have a goal line for the Jag. If it doesn't happen, we'll make sure you get a ride, either with Trish or myself, or another member! In the meantime, the drive this Saturday should be great. Cheers, Greg _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From csaul at noleak.com Thu Sep 25 18:49:00 2008 From: csaul at noleak.com (Charlie Saul) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:49:00 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Long-range planning for Tour! In-Reply-To: <266738.4052.qm@web83604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <266738.4052.qm@web83604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE0E88C9@AQUA-DC1.noleak.com> Hi All: Lori and I had the pleasure of meeting a few of you at the Cheese Factory the other weekend. We are looking forward to joining you soon. A brisk ride this winter sounds great and we won't miss the ride to the winery, so help me ---. If I can fix my horn, I hope to make the first baby forays out the garage (in 15 years) over the next few weeks. I'll be sure to carry my cellphone for a rescue (likely). Best Regards, Charlie ('53 jalopy) and Lori ('55 green-eyed sprite) 52 XK120 Roadster 52 MGTD (stuck behind the Jag) -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Sheryl Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:55 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Long-range planning for Tour! Dennis & Sheryl will be at the Lake Tahoe Marathon this weekend, so we won't be on the drive. Regarding the Tour - sounds like a great drive and I am sure we will be a part of it! Enjoy yourselves! Dennis & Sheryl 1976 MGB x 2 ----- Original Message ---- From: gtwincams To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:26:15 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Long-range planning for Tour! Hallo, It's great to hear there is interest in this drive! Thanks so much for the feedback Ron, Norm, Robin, John. I'll pass on little tidbits about Saintsbury, Dave Graves, and my long association with them throughout the next months as I develop the route. We'll shoot for the first stable, good weather in the Spring when it's warm enough to enjoy being outside in their beautiful garden. I've already mapped out part of the route, which includes the always exciting Trinity Road. Between Streets and Trips, Live Search Maps, and Google Earth, I'm spotting all the good turnouts for stragglers to get caught up. Here's one tidbit; Dave has always loved British cars. As a kid he helped his brother work on his Midget and TR4. He's really looking forward to having us visit, so let's get a good-sized group together. Norman, you'll have plenty of time to decide what bottle of Cab you wish to bring, but I think you'll like their Pinot - it's one of the best I've ever had (and I've worked for about 30 wineries, many of which provide samples). Robin, you now have a goal line for the Jag. If it doesn't happen, we'll make sure you get a ride, either with Trish or myself, or another member! In the meantime, the drive this Saturday should be great. Cheers, Greg _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From dawson at authorspublishing.com Sat Sep 27 10:08:01 2008 From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:08:01 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday 9/27/08 In-Reply-To: <48DAED87.7070502@sonic.net> References: <48DADB69.6060200@sonic.net> <7BE693B30171F34DB4481F82DCBB9294A53C99C5FF@INJEX-HQ-EX1.injexindustries.com> <48DAED87.7070502@sonic.net> Message-ID: We've expressed 2 goals recently: 1. Involve more young people. 2. Go places where our cars are visible. There is an art and wine expo on the Healdsburg plaza today from 10 to 4. Whereever else we go after that, we could get a LOT of visibility (goal #2) by parking in Healdsburg near the plaza for an hour first! Dawson On Sep 24, 2008, at 6:46 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > Sounds good to me, what do the rest of you think? > > Ron > 58 MGA > > Richard Brown wrote: > >> Ron, what about the Berryessa this time? >> >> Richard >> 68 XKE FHC >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >> ] On >> Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt >> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 5:29 PM >> To: nobbc at autox.team.net >> Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday 9/27/08 >> >> It's ride time again! We'll meet in the commuter lot just west of >> 101 on River >> Rd. at 10 AM. No ride offers have been submitted so the group >> present will >> decide where to go. >> >> Ron >> 58 MGA >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From henriviii at comcast.net Sun Sep 28 12:03:04 2008 From: henriviii at comcast.net (henriviii at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:03:04 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday 9/27/08 Message-ID: <092820081803.2351.48DFC6D80000BA940000092F221475640207070790079D020A08@comcast.net> Good Idea! Now does anyone know of a rebuilt or running TR6 engine for sale? . Mine, as of last week. has two melted Pistons! (sob) Emile Houle