From nobbc at sonic.net  Mon Nov  3 11:30:50 2008
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:30:50 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Olsen MG Parts Giveaway]
Message-ID: <490F435A.8040504@sonic.net>

I received the following from Ken Olsen. Anyone interested?

Ron
58 MGA

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Olsen MG Parts Giveaway
Date: 	Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:44:18 -0800
From: 	Ken Olsen <kenolsen at jps.net>


Hi all, we have a bunch of MG TD parts that I would like to donate to
whoever would pick them up, rather than junk them out.  These parts are
located in San Francisco.

Muffler in good shape (I recently added a stainless system),
Bumpers, a bit rusty with a few dents
Some miscellaneous bits & pieces: ignition, brakes

The BEST to all, finally good rain up here on the ridge in Albion

Ken

From nobbc at sonic.net  Tue Nov 11 19:46:29 2008
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:46:29 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] November ride
Message-ID: <491A4385.2000904@sonic.net>

November is typically the time of year we switch to our winter schedule. 
That is, one ride in the middle of the month starting at noon. That 
being said and if there are no objections, our next ride will be this 
coming Saturday 11/15 starting at noon in the commuter lot just west of 
101 on River Rd. (PG&E substation). If anyone has a ride suggestion, 
pipe up, otherwise the group present will decide.

Just because we will only have one ride a month scheduled doesn't mean 
you can't suggest alternate rides at any time during the month. If you 
want to have a ride at any other time, this is the proper forum to 
suggest it. For instance, in years past, we have done rides on the day 
after Thanksgiving and New Years Day that have been quite sucessful.

This list has been pretty quiet lately. Please feel free to speak up, 
this is your club! The tech session last month was extremely 
interesting. Thanks to Greg for arranging it, and here's hoping we have 
similar events this winter. If you have an idea for an interesting club 
visit or ride, let us know.

Ron
58 MGA

From dawson at authorspublishing.com  Tue Nov 11 19:54:04 2008
From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:54:04 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] November ride
In-Reply-To: <491A4385.2000904@sonic.net>
References: <491A4385.2000904@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <805ED2A3-FBE3-45A2-BDA5-5AC4F869730F@authorspublishing.com>

The Wine Country Car Club ride is also on the 15th. I'll be out of  
town working on a cortisol and immunity study, drat!

I just bought a new house, very car friendly, (think parking lot and  
garages with house as afterthought), will plan to host a gathering  
early in the year.

Dawson


On Nov 11, 2008, at 6:46 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote:

> November is typically the time of year we switch to our winter  
> schedule. That is, one ride in the middle of the month starting at  
> noon. That being said and if there are no objections, our next ride  
> will be this coming Saturday 11/15 starting at noon in the commuter  
> lot just west of 101 on River Rd. (PG&E substation). If anyone has a  
> ride suggestion, pipe up, otherwise the group present will decide.
>
> Just because we will only have one ride a month scheduled doesn't  
> mean you can't suggest alternate rides at any time during the month.  
> If you want to have a ride at any other time, this is the proper  
> forum to suggest it. For instance, in years past, we have done rides  
> on the day after Thanksgiving and New Years Day that have been quite  
> sucessful.
>
> This list has been pretty quiet lately. Please feel free to speak  
> up, this is your club! The tech session last month was extremely  
> interesting. Thanks to Greg for arranging it, and here's hoping we  
> have similar events this winter. If you have an idea for an  
> interesting club visit or ride, let us know.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
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From tonykorman at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov 11 20:02:03 2008
From: tonykorman at sbcglobal.net (tonykorman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:02:03 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] November ride
Message-ID: <mailman.0.1226462558.3539.nobbc@autox.team.net>

Anybody out there looking for a hard top for a TR6?  Got one
Tony
------Original Message------
From: Ron Engelhardt
Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club
Sent: Nov 11, 2008 6:46 PM
Subject: [Nobbc] November ride

November is typically the time of year we switch to our winter schedule. 
That is, one ride in the middle of the month starting at noon. That 
being said and if there are no objections, our next ride will be this 
coming Saturday 11/15 starting at noon in the commuter lot just west of 
101 on River Rd. (PG&E substation). If anyone has a ride suggestion, 
pipe up, otherwise the group present will decide.

Just because we will only have one ride a month scheduled doesn't mean 
you can't suggest alternate rides at any time during the month. If you 
want to have a ride at any other time, this is the proper forum to 
suggest it. For instance, in years past, we have done rides on the day 
after Thanksgiving and New Years Day that have been quite sucessful.

This list has been pretty quiet lately. Please feel free to speak up, 
this is your club! The tech session last month was extremely 
interesting. Thanks to Greg for arranging it, and here's hoping we have 
similar events this winter. If you have an idea for an interesting club 
visit or ride, let us know.

Ron
58 MGA
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From CTWehn at cs.com  Wed Nov 12 19:55:42 2008
From: CTWehn at cs.com (CTWehn at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:55:42 -0500
Subject: [Nobbc] November ride
Message-ID: <2C5B0AB9.6CB930AF.000435C1@cs.com>

Is it an original or an aftermarket one?

Charlie Wehn
TR6,7,8


tonykorman at sbcglobal.net wrote:

>Anybody out there looking for a hard top for a TR6?  Got one
>Tony
>------Original Message------
>From: Ron Engelhardt
>Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
>To: nobbc at autox.team.net
>ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club
>Sent: Nov 11, 2008 6:46 PM
>Subject: [Nobbc] November ride
>
>November is typically the time of year we switch to our winter schedule. 
>That is, one ride in the middle of the month starting at noon. That 
>being said and if there are no objections, our next ride will be this 
>coming Saturday 11/15 starting at noon in the commuter lot just west of 
>101 on River Rd. (PG&E substation). If anyone has a ride suggestion, 
>pipe up, otherwise the group present will decide.
>
>Just because we will only have one ride a month scheduled doesn't mean 
>you can't suggest alternate rides at any time during the month. If you 
>want to have a ride at any other time, this is the proper forum to 
>suggest it. For instance, in years past, we have done rides on the day 
>after Thanksgiving and New Years Day that have been quite sucessful.
>
>This list has been pretty quiet lately. Please feel free to speak up, 
>this is your club! The tech session last month was extremely 
>interesting. Thanks to Greg for arranging it, and here's hoping we have 
>similar events this winter. If you have an idea for an interesting club 
>visit or ride, let us know.
>
>Ron
>58 MGA
>_______________________________________________
>Nobbc mailing list
>Nobbc at autox.team.net
>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>
>
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From tonykorman at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov 13 12:37:26 2008
From: tonykorman at sbcglobal.net (tony korman)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:37:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] TR6 Hardtop
Message-ID: <858632.560.qm@web81506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It matches the car, maroon and is metal.  I would guess it is original.
TK
________________________________
From: "CTWehn at cs.com" <CTWehn at cs.com>
To:
North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November
12, 2008 6:55:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] November ride

Is it an original or
an aftermarket one?

Charlie Wehn
TR6,7,8


tonykorman at sbcglobal.net wrote:
>Anybody out there looking for a hard top for a TR6?  Got one
>Tony
>------Original Message------
>From: Ron Engelhardt
>Sender:
nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
>To: nobbc at autox.team.net
>ReplyTo: North Bay
British Car Club
>Sent: Nov 11, 2008 6:46 PM
>Subject: [Nobbc] November ride
>
>November is typically the time of year we switch to our winter schedule.
>That is, one ride in the middle of the month starting at noon. That 
>being
said and if there are no objections, our next ride will be this 
>coming
Saturday 11/15 starting at noon in the commuter lot just west of 
>101 on
River Rd. (PG&E substation). If anyone has a ride suggestion, 
>pipe up,
otherwise the group present will decide.
>
>Just because we will only have one
ride a month scheduled doesn't mean 
>you can't suggest alternate rides at any
time during the month. If you 
>want to have a ride at any other time, this is
the proper forum to 
>suggest it. For instance, in years past, we have done
rides on the day 
>after Thanksgiving and New Years Day that have been quite
sucessful.
>
>This list has been pretty quiet lately. Please feel free to
speak up, 
>this is your club! The tech session last month was extremely
>interesting. Thanks to Greg for arranging it, and here's hoping we have
>similar events this winter. If you have an idea for an interesting club
>visit or ride, let us know.
>
>Ron
>58 MGA
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>
>
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Tue Nov 18 19:44:37 2008
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:44:37 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
Message-ID: <49237D95.7040108@sonic.net>

I received the following and thought some of you might be interested.
The entry fee seems a little steep though.

Ron
58 MGA

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May
17th 2009
Date: 	Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:52:23 -0800
From: 	Erma Murphy <erma at murphyproductions.com>
To: 	<nobbc at sonic.net>, <tkamstra at sonic.net>



Hello North Bay British Car Club:
Please pass the word on to your members about this new Classic Car show
May 17th in Marin County Ca.  Attached is the full call for entries and
the application form.  Hope you will check it out!

Erma Murphy
Publicist

Name of Event: Marin Sonoma Concours dElegance
Date: Sunday May 17th 2009
Website:   www.marinsonomaconcours.org
<http://www.marinsonomaconcours.org> ,
Venue:   Marin County Fair Grounds at Lagoon Park

Address: 10 Avenue of the Flags
               San Rafael, Ca 94903
Contact e-mail:  info at marinsonomaconcours.org
website:   http://marinsonomaconcours.org/

May 17, 2009 will mark the launch of a new, world-class, Bay Area
tradition: the Marin Sonoma Concours dElegance, an automotive
exhibition and award show celebrating the beauty and craftsmanship of
classic cars and motorcycles from every era. More than 200 entries from
early sophisticates like the Duesenberg to the latest design by Ferrari
will be on display from 10:00am-4:00pm. Special exhibits plus music,
food, and family activities will fill out the program. The designated
charity for this event is Hospice By The Bay, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit
organization that has been serving the Bay Area since 1975. For more
information and to down load an entrant application please visit
http://www.marinsonomaconcours.org/

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From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 18 23:34:11 2008
From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:34:11 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <49237D95.7040108@sonic.net>
References: <49237D95.7040108@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <BAY140-DS70C4D8ECC7B04DB73D8529F0D0@phx.gbl>

Ron,

Might be a weence too Elegante for this boy from the Hood methinks...

Norm Weinfeld
'55 XK140 DHC
Bayview District
San Francisco


From: Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 6:44 PM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
d'Elegance May 17th 2009]


I received the following and thought some of you might be interested.
The entry fee seems a little steep though.

Ron
58 MGA

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May
17th 2009
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:52:23 -0800
From: Erma Murphy <erma at murphyproductions.com>
To: <nobbc at sonic.net>, <tkamstra at sonic.net>



Hello North Bay British Car Club:
Please pass the word on to your members about this new Classic Car show
May 17th in Marin County Ca.  Attached is the full call for entries and
the application form.  Hope you will check it out!

Erma Murphy
Publicist

Name of Event: Marin Sonoma Concours dElegance
Date: Sunday May 17th 2009
Website:   www.marinsonomaconcours.org
<http://www.marinsonomaconcours.org> ,
Venue:   Marin County Fair Grounds at Lagoon Park

Address: 10 Avenue of the Flags
               San Rafael, Ca 94903
Contact e-mail:  info at marinsonomaconcours.org
website:   http://marinsonomaconcours.org/

May 17, 2009 will mark the launch of a new, world-class, Bay Area
tradition: the Marin Sonoma Concours dElegance, an automotive
exhibition and award show celebrating the beauty and craftsmanship of
classic cars and motorcycles from every era. More than 200 entries from
early sophisticates like the Duesenberg to the latest design by Ferrari
will be on display from 10:00am-4:00pm. Special exhibits plus music,
food, and family activities will fill out the program. The designated
charity for this event is Hospice By The Bay, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit
organization that has been serving the Bay Area since 1975. For more
information and to down load an entrant application please visit
http://www.marinsonomaconcours.org/

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name of ConcoursCall.doc]

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a name of MSCCoverwHvyLineLogo.pdf]
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From tonykorman at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov 18 22:37:01 2008
From: tonykorman at sbcglobal.net (tonykorman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:37:01 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma
 Concoursd'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <BAY140-DS70C4D8ECC7B04DB73D8529F0D0@phx.gbl>
References: <49237D95.7040108@sonic.net><BAY140-DS70C4D8ECC7B04DB73D8529F0D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <mailman.1.1227076655.3539.nobbc@autox.team.net>

I think not we will go and go proud. Besides Sams has great Bloody Marys
Tony
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Norman Weinfeld" <norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com>

Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:34:11 
To: North Bay British Car Club<nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]


Ron,

Might be a weence too Elegante for this boy from the Hood methinks...

Norm Weinfeld
'55 XK140 DHC
Bayview District
San Francisco


From: Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 6:44 PM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
d'Elegance May 17th 2009]


I received the following and thought some of you might be interested.
The entry fee seems a little steep though.

Ron
58 MGA

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May
17th 2009
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:52:23 -0800
From: Erma Murphy <erma at murphyproductions.com>
To: <nobbc at sonic.net>, <tkamstra at sonic.net>



Hello North Bay British Car Club:
Please pass the word on to your members about this new Classic Car show
May 17th in Marin County Ca.  Attached is the full call for entries and
the application form.  Hope you will check it out!

Erma Murphy
Publicist

Name of Event: Marin Sonoma Concours dElegance
Date: Sunday May 17th 2009
Website:   www.marinsonomaconcours.org
<http://www.marinsonomaconcours.org> ,
Venue:   Marin County Fair Grounds at Lagoon Park

Address: 10 Avenue of the Flags
               San Rafael, Ca 94903
Contact e-mail:  info at marinsonomaconcours.org
website:   http://marinsonomaconcours.org/

May 17, 2009 will mark the launch of a new, world-class, Bay Area
tradition: the Marin Sonoma Concours dElegance, an automotive
exhibition and award show celebrating the beauty and craftsmanship of
classic cars and motorcycles from every era. More than 200 entries from
early sophisticates like the Duesenberg to the latest design by Ferrari
will be on display from 10:00am-4:00pm. Special exhibits plus music,
food, and family activities will fill out the program. The designated
charity for this event is Hospice By The Bay, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit
organization that has been serving the Bay Area since 1975. For more
information and to down load an entrant application please visit
http://www.marinsonomaconcours.org/

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/msword which had a
name of ConcoursCall.doc]

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a name of MSCCoverwHvyLineLogo.pdf]
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From gtwincams at pacbell.net  Wed Nov 19 10:59:05 2008
From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:59:05 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma
 Concoursd'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <20081119063736.5864518765E@autox.team.net>
References: <49237D95.7040108@sonic.net><BAY140-DS70C4D8ECC7B04DB73D8529F0D0@phx.gbl>
	<20081119063736.5864518765E@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <492453E9.9030807@pacbell.net>

Hi Group,
Sounds very fancy, and not sure many of us have cars that would do well 
on an originality judging such as this (except for you, Norm), but these 
are always interesting. Tom Price is a sponsor, and most of us know 
something of his collection...
How was the drive on Saturday? Looks from the photos that the Wine 
Country group had a lot of interesting cars on their drive, which was 
the same day.
Cheers,
Greg Tatarian

From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 19 11:36:26 2008
From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:36:26 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <49237D95.7040108@sonic.net><BAY140-DS70C4D8ECC7B04DB73D8529F0D0@phx.gbl><20081119063736.5864518765E@autox.team.net>
	<492453E9.9030807@pacbell.net>
References: <49237D95.7040108@sonic.net><BAY140-DS70C4D8ECC7B04DB73D8529F0D0@phx.gbl><20081119063736.5864518765E@autox.team.net>
	<492453E9.9030807@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <BAY140-DS1D54A7D54A591AAFD30689F0D0@phx.gbl>

Greg,

No clipboard-toting authenticity sniffers for me thanks. My originality issues
begin with radial tires (de rigueur in my opinion), inauthentic (Mercedes
replicas even!) sun visors, unoriginal (to my car) dual stainless (gasp!)
exhausts, an electric fan, unoriginal (to my car) wire wheels (and splined
hubs, etc., etc.), Mark II type emergency flashers, etc., etc., etc. I even
tried installing an electronic ignition but it unfortunately got fried via
hooking it up backwards (who knew we'd been switched over to negative ground?)
All of which makes it big fun to drive (except for the fried ignition). It
would doubtless be a treat to go and have a look, but I'll burn my 50 clams in
my gas tank instead of enter thank you very much.

Norm Weinfeld
San Francisco
XK140 DHC


From: gtwincams
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:59 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma
Concoursd'Elegance May 17th 2009]


Hi Group,
Sounds very fancy, and not sure many of us have cars that would do well
on an originality judging such as this (except for you, Norm), but these
are always interesting. Tom Price is a sponsor, and most of us know
something of his collection...
How was the drive on Saturday? Looks from the photos that the Wine
Country group had a lot of interesting cars on their drive, which was
the same day.
Cheers,
Greg Tatarian
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From gtwincams at pacbell.net  Wed Nov 19 11:43:31 2008
From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:43:31 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <BAY140-DS1D54A7D54A591AAFD30689F0D0@phx.gbl>
References: <49237D95.7040108@sonic.net><BAY140-DS70C4D8ECC7B04DB73D8529F0D0@phx.gbl><20081119063736.5864518765E@autox.team.net>
	<492453E9.9030807@pacbell.net>
	<BAY140-DS1D54A7D54A591AAFD30689F0D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <49245E53.80706@pacbell.net>

Ha! Yes, I'm right with you, Norm. None of our cars are original. When I 
first entered the Elan in the British car shown in Palo Alto, one of my 
fellow Lotus owners, nose firmly extended up in the air, proclaimed my 
car a hack job because it has a roll bar and does not have standard 
seatbelts. Since my wife Trish won't ride in the car or drive it without 
some sense that she will live through the experience, it's a no-brainer 
to me. Nevertheless, seeing concours-quality cars is usually a treat. 
Having said that, I actually prefer  looking at vintage race cars than 
over-restored high-end collectibles.
Don't abandon the idea of electronic ignition - that's been the first 
conversion for all of my cars, and has been a great improvement. I had a 
VW squareback that required adjusting points at least every 3,000 miles 
- what a pain!
Cheers,
Greg


 Norman Weinfeld wrote:
> Greg,
>
> No clipboard-toting authenticity sniffers for me thanks. My originality issues
> begin with radial tires (de rigueur in my opinion), inauthentic (Mercedes
> replicas even!) sun visors, unoriginal (to my car) dual stainless (gasp!)
> exhausts, an electric fan, unoriginal (to my car) wire wheels (and splined
> hubs, etc., etc.), Mark II type emergency flashers, etc., etc., etc. I even
> tried installing an electronic ignition but it unfortunately got fried via
> hooking it up backwards (who knew we'd been switched over to negative ground?)
> All of which makes it big fun to drive (except for the fried ignition). It
> would doubtless be a treat to go and have a look, but I'll burn my 50 clams in
> my gas tank instead of enter thank you very much.
>
> Norm Weinfeld
> San Francisco
> XK140 DHC
>
>
> From: gtwincams
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:59 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma
> Concoursd'Elegance May 17th 2009]
>
>
> Hi Group,
> Sounds very fancy, and not sure many of us have cars that would do well
> on an originality judging such as this (except for you, Norm), but these
> are always interesting. Tom Price is a sponsor, and most of us know
> something of his collection...
> How was the drive on Saturday? Looks from the photos that the Wine
> Country group had a lot of interesting cars on their drive, which was
> the same day.
> Cheers,
> Greg Tatarian
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 19 12:01:38 2008
From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:01:38 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
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Ron,

Oh yeah, I forgot about the added seat belts... And I haven't given up on the
electronic ignition, it's just that the damn things come in at around $200 and
it was hard enough to do that once, let alone twice in succession. Probably
not for the New Year's Day Anti-Football drive, but hopefully by next
season...

Norm


From: gtwincams
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:43 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
d'Elegance May 17th 2009]


Ha! Yes, I'm right with you, Norm. None of our cars are original. When I
first entered the Elan in the British car shown in Palo Alto, one of my
fellow Lotus owners, nose firmly extended up in the air, proclaimed my
car a hack job because it has a roll bar and does not have standard
seatbelts. Since my wife Trish won't ride in the car or drive it without
some sense that she will live through the experience, it's a no-brainer
to me. Nevertheless, seeing concours-quality cars is usually a treat.
Having said that, I actually prefer  looking at vintage race cars than
over-restored high-end collectibles.
Don't abandon the idea of electronic ignition - that's been the first
conversion for all of my cars, and has been a great improvement. I had a
VW squareback that required adjusting points at least every 3,000 miles
- what a pain!
Cheers,
Greg


 Norman Weinfeld wrote:
> Greg,
>
> No clipboard-toting authenticity sniffers for me thanks. My originality
issues
> begin with radial tires (de rigueur in my opinion), inauthentic (Mercedes
> replicas even!) sun visors, unoriginal (to my car) dual stainless (gasp!)
> exhausts, an electric fan, unoriginal (to my car) wire wheels (and splined
> hubs, etc., etc.), Mark II type emergency flashers, etc., etc., etc. I even
> tried installing an electronic ignition but it unfortunately got fried via
> hooking it up backwards (who knew we'd been switched over to negative
ground?)
> All of which makes it big fun to drive (except for the fried ignition). It
> would doubtless be a treat to go and have a look, but I'll burn my 50 clams
in
> my gas tank instead of enter thank you very much.
>
> Norm Weinfeld
> San Francisco
> XK140 DHC
>
>
> From: gtwincams
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:59 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma
> Concoursd'Elegance May 17th 2009]
>
>
> Hi Group,
> Sounds very fancy, and not sure many of us have cars that would do well
> on an originality judging such as this (except for you, Norm), but these
> are always interesting. Tom Price is a sponsor, and most of us know
> something of his collection...
> How was the drive on Saturday? Looks from the photos that the Wine
> Country group had a lot of interesting cars on their drive, which was
> the same day.
> Cheers,
> Greg Tatarian
> _______________________________________________
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> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Wed Nov 19 12:29:24 2008
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:29:24 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <BAY140-DS2B60DBF052013736F37CA9F0D0@phx.gbl>
References: <49237D95.7040108@sonic.net><BAY140-DS70C4D8ECC7B04DB73D8529F0D0@phx.gbl><20081119063736.5864518765E@autox.team.net><492453E9.9030807@pacbell.net><BAY140-DS1D54A7D54A591AAFD30689F0D0@phx.gbl>
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Norm, You might consider using the Pertronix electronic ignition that 
fits inside your original distributor. I use one on my car and would 
never want to switch back. Aside from looking original, the car runs 
smoother and better. I also switched to the Lucas Sport Coil and now 
have no (well little) cold weather start problems.

Back to the Concours, I have entered a few and done surprisingly 
(shockingly) well. I still prefer getting in the car and DRIVING it;-) 
Maybe Nobbc should have a Concous D' Unelegance someday and outlaw 
garage queens.

Ron
58 MGA

Norman Weinfeld wrote:

> Ron,
> 
> Oh yeah, I forgot about the added seat belts... And I haven't given up on the
> electronic ignition, it's just that the damn things come in at around $200 and
> it was hard enough to do that once, let alone twice in succession. Probably
> not for the New Year's Day Anti-Football drive, but hopefully by next
> season...
> 
> Norm
> 
> 
> From: gtwincams
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:43 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
> d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
> 
> 
> Ha! Yes, I'm right with you, Norm. None of our cars are original. When I
> first entered the Elan in the British car shown in Palo Alto, one of my
> fellow Lotus owners, nose firmly extended up in the air, proclaimed my
> car a hack job because it has a roll bar and does not have standard
> seatbelts. Since my wife Trish won't ride in the car or drive it without
> some sense that she will live through the experience, it's a no-brainer
> to me. Nevertheless, seeing concours-quality cars is usually a treat.
> Having said that, I actually prefer  looking at vintage race cars than
> over-restored high-end collectibles.
> Don't abandon the idea of electronic ignition - that's been the first
> conversion for all of my cars, and has been a great improvement. I had a
> VW squareback that required adjusting points at least every 3,000 miles
> - what a pain!
> Cheers,
> Greg
> 
> 
>  Norman Weinfeld wrote:
> 
>>Greg,
>>
>>No clipboard-toting authenticity sniffers for me thanks. My originality
> 
> issues
> 
>>begin with radial tires (de rigueur in my opinion), inauthentic (Mercedes
>>replicas even!) sun visors, unoriginal (to my car) dual stainless (gasp!)
>>exhausts, an electric fan, unoriginal (to my car) wire wheels (and splined
>>hubs, etc., etc.), Mark II type emergency flashers, etc., etc., etc. I even
>>tried installing an electronic ignition but it unfortunately got fried via
>>hooking it up backwards (who knew we'd been switched over to negative
> 
> ground?)
> 
>>All of which makes it big fun to drive (except for the fried ignition). It
>>would doubtless be a treat to go and have a look, but I'll burn my 50 clams
> 
> in
> 
>>my gas tank instead of enter thank you very much.
>>
>>Norm Weinfeld
>>San Francisco
>>XK140 DHC
>>
>>
>>From: gtwincams
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:59 AM
>>To: North Bay British Car Club
>>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma
>>Concoursd'Elegance May 17th 2009]
>>
>>
>>Hi Group,
>>Sounds very fancy, and not sure many of us have cars that would do well
>>on an originality judging such as this (except for you, Norm), but these
>>are always interesting. Tom Price is a sponsor, and most of us know
>>something of his collection...
>>How was the drive on Saturday? Looks from the photos that the Wine
>>Country group had a lot of interesting cars on their drive, which was
>>the same day.
>>Cheers,
>>Greg Tatarian
>>_______________________________________________
>>Nobbc mailing list
>>Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>_______________________________________________
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>>Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> 
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From tonykorman at sbcglobal.net  Wed Nov 19 12:38:36 2008
From: tonykorman at sbcglobal.net (tony korman)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:38:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
Message-ID: <713901.21752.qm@web81507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Electronic ignition was put in my TR6 soon after I got it.  HUGE difference. 
It fits inside the distributor like Ron states and the car runs great.  That
plus the tune up/valve adjustment that Ron Larson did on the car months ago. 
Any TR6 owners out there that have replaced the rear level shocks with spring
and tube shocks.  Curious how you like it.
Tony 
________________________________
From: Ron Engelhardt <nobbc at sonic.net>
To:
North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November
19, 2008 11:29:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin
Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 17th 2009]

Norm, You might consider using the
Pertronix electronic ignition that 
fits inside your original distributor. I
use one on my car and would 
never want to switch back. Aside from looking
original, the car runs 
smoother and better. I also switched to the Lucas
Sport Coil and now 
have no (well little) cold weather start problems.

Back
to the Concours, I have entered a few and done surprisingly 
(shockingly)
well. I still prefer getting in the car and DRIVING it;-) 
Maybe Nobbc should
have a Concous D' Unelegance someday and outlaw 
garage queens.

Ron
58 MGA
Norman Weinfeld wrote:

> Ron,
> 
> Oh yeah, I forgot about the added seat
belts... And I haven't given up on the
> electronic ignition, it's just that
the damn things come in at around $200 and
> it was hard enough to do that
once, let alone twice in succession. Probably
> not for the New Year's Day
Anti-Football drive, but hopefully by next
> season...
> 
> Norm
> 
> 
> From:
gtwincams
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:43 AM
> To: North Bay
British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin
Sonoma Concours
> d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
> 
> 
> Ha! Yes, I'm right with
you, Norm. None of our cars are original. When I
> first entered the Elan in
the British car shown in Palo Alto, one of my
> fellow Lotus owners, nose
firmly extended up in the air, proclaimed my
> car a hack job because it has a
roll bar and does not have standard
> seatbelts. Since my wife Trish won't
ride in the car or drive it without
> some sense that she will live through
the experience, it's a no-brainer
> to me. Nevertheless, seeing
concours-quality cars is usually a treat.
> Having said that, I actually
prefer  looking at vintage race cars than
> over-restored high-end
collectibles.
> Don't abandon the idea of electronic ignition - that's been
the first
> conversion for all of my cars, and has been a great improvement. I
had a
> VW squareback that required adjusting points at least every 3,000
miles
> - what a pain!
> Cheers,
> Greg
> 
> 
>  Norman Weinfeld wrote:
>
>>Greg,
>>
>>No clipboard-toting authenticity sniffers for me thanks. My
originality
> 
> issues
> 
>>begin with radial tires (de rigueur in my
opinion), inauthentic (Mercedes
>>replicas even!) sun visors, unoriginal (to
my car) dual stainless (gasp!)
>>exhausts, an electric fan, unoriginal (to my
car) wire wheels (and splined
>>hubs, etc., etc.), Mark II type emergency
flashers, etc., etc., etc. I even
>>tried installing an electronic ignition
but it unfortunately got fried via
>>hooking it up backwards (who knew we'd
been switched over to negative
> 
> ground?)
> 
>>All of which makes it big
fun to drive (except for the fried ignition). It
>>would doubtless be a treat
to go and have a look, but I'll burn my 50 clams
> 
> in
> 
>>my gas tank
instead of enter thank you very much.
>>
>>Norm Weinfeld
>>San Francisco
>>XK140 DHC
>>
>>
>>From: gtwincams
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:59
AM
>>To: North Bay British Car Club
>>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for
entries to the Marin Sonoma
>>Concoursd'Elegance May 17th 2009]
>>
>>
>>Hi
Group,
>>Sounds very fancy, and not sure many of us have cars that would do
well
>>on an originality judging such as this (except for you, Norm), but
these
>>are always interesting. Tom Price is a sponsor, and most of us know
>>something of his collection...
>>How was the drive on Saturday? Looks from
the photos that the Wine
>>Country group had a lot of interesting cars on
their drive, which was
>>the same day.
>>Cheers,
>>Greg Tatarian
>>_______________________________________________
>>Nobbc mailing list
>>Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>_______________________________________________
>>Nobbc mailing list
>>Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> 
>
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>
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From gtwincams at pacbell.net  Wed Nov 19 12:54:40 2008
From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:54:40 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Pertronix for Jag
In-Reply-To: <BAY140-DS1D54A7D54A591AAFD30689F0D0@phx.gbl>
References: <49237D95.7040108@sonic.net><BAY140-DS70C4D8ECC7B04DB73D8529F0D0@phx.gbl><20081119063736.5864518765E@autox.team.net>
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Norm,
Pertronix should cost you around $75-80 discounted, more from Moss, but 
very reliable and easy to install as Tony and Ron have stated. I can't 
imagine not having it in the Elan because to replace the points, it's 
easier to remove the dizzy, it's such a tight fit under the carbs, 
though easy as pie on the TR6.
Cheers,
Greg

From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 19 13:47:05 2008
From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:47:05 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <49237D95.7040108@sonic.net><BAY140-DS70C4D8ECC7B04DB73D8529F0D0@phx.gbl><20081119063736.5864518765E@autox.team.net><492453E9.9030807@pacbell.net><BAY140-DS1D54A7D54A591AAFD30689F0D0@phx.gbl><49245E53.80706@pacbell.net><BAY140-DS2B60DBF052013736F37CA9F0D0@phx.gbl>
	<49246914.4090205@sonic.net>
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Ron,

The Pertronix was the one I fried. Also the matching coil (I assume, maybe
it's still good). The hidden part was what I liked about it. Not trying to
flaunt my unoriginality or anything...

Norm


From: Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:29 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
d'Elegance May 17th 2009]


Norm, You might consider using the Pertronix electronic ignition that
fits inside your original distributor. I use one on my car and would
never want to switch back. Aside from looking original, the car runs
smoother and better. I also switched to the Lucas Sport Coil and now
have no (well little) cold weather start problems.

Back to the Concours, I have entered a few and done surprisingly
(shockingly) well. I still prefer getting in the car and DRIVING it;-)
Maybe Nobbc should have a Concous D' Unelegance someday and outlaw
garage queens.

Ron
58 MGA

Norman Weinfeld wrote:

> Ron,
>
> Oh yeah, I forgot about the added seat belts... And I haven't given up on
the
> electronic ignition, it's just that the damn things come in at around $200
and
> it was hard enough to do that once, let alone twice in succession. Probably
> not for the New Year's Day Anti-Football drive, but hopefully by next
> season...
>
> Norm
>
>
> From: gtwincams
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:43 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
> d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
>
>
> Ha! Yes, I'm right with you, Norm. None of our cars are original. When I
> first entered the Elan in the British car shown in Palo Alto, one of my
> fellow Lotus owners, nose firmly extended up in the air, proclaimed my
> car a hack job because it has a roll bar and does not have standard
> seatbelts. Since my wife Trish won't ride in the car or drive it without
> some sense that she will live through the experience, it's a no-brainer
> to me. Nevertheless, seeing concours-quality cars is usually a treat.
> Having said that, I actually prefer  looking at vintage race cars than
> over-restored high-end collectibles.
> Don't abandon the idea of electronic ignition - that's been the first
> conversion for all of my cars, and has been a great improvement. I had a
> VW squareback that required adjusting points at least every 3,000 miles
> - what a pain!
> Cheers,
> Greg
>
>
>  Norman Weinfeld wrote:
>
>>Greg,
>>
>>No clipboard-toting authenticity sniffers for me thanks. My originality
>
> issues
>
>>begin with radial tires (de rigueur in my opinion), inauthentic (Mercedes
>>replicas even!) sun visors, unoriginal (to my car) dual stainless (gasp!)
>>exhausts, an electric fan, unoriginal (to my car) wire wheels (and splined
>>hubs, etc., etc.), Mark II type emergency flashers, etc., etc., etc. I even
>>tried installing an electronic ignition but it unfortunately got fried via
>>hooking it up backwards (who knew we'd been switched over to negative
>
> ground?)
>
>>All of which makes it big fun to drive (except for the fried ignition). It
>>would doubtless be a treat to go and have a look, but I'll burn my 50 clams
>
> in
>
>>my gas tank instead of enter thank you very much.
>>
>>Norm Weinfeld
>>San Francisco
>>XK140 DHC
>>
>>
>>From: gtwincams
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:59 AM
>>To: North Bay British Car Club
>>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma
>>Concoursd'Elegance May 17th 2009]
>>
>>
>>Hi Group,
>>Sounds very fancy, and not sure many of us have cars that would do well
>>on an originality judging such as this (except for you, Norm), but these
>>are always interesting. Tom Price is a sponsor, and most of us know
>>something of his collection...
>>How was the drive on Saturday? Looks from the photos that the Wine
>>Country group had a lot of interesting cars on their drive, which was
>>the same day.
>>Cheers,
>>Greg Tatarian
>>_______________________________________________
>>Nobbc mailing list
>>Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>_______________________________________________
>>Nobbc mailing list
>>Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>
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From dawson at authorspublishing.com  Wed Nov 19 14:27:41 2008
From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:27:41 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Pertronix for Jag
In-Reply-To: <49246F00.9080700@pacbell.net>
References: <49237D95.7040108@sonic.net><BAY140-DS70C4D8ECC7B04DB73D8529F0D0@phx.gbl><20081119063736.5864518765E@autox.team.net>
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	<BAY140-DS1D54A7D54A591AAFD30689F0D0@phx.gbl>
	<49246F00.9080700@pacbell.net>
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I put one in my Elite and the car would not run at all!

Dawson


On Nov 19, 2008, at 11:54 AM, gtwincams wrote:

> Norm,
> Pertronix should cost you around $75-80 discounted, more from Moss,  
> but very reliable and easy to install as Tony and Ron have stated. I  
> can't imagine not having it in the Elan because to replace the  
> points, it's easier to remove the dizzy, it's such a tight fit under  
> the carbs, though easy as pie on the TR6.
> Cheers,
> Greg
> _______________________________________________
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> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From DPaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us  Wed Nov 19 15:01:35 2008
From: DPaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us (Paige, Dean)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:01:35 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <713901.21752.qm@web81507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <38EB329C843ED444A8CF05627CC4BFA60166620B@mail2.sr.local>

Going to add my Yes to the Petronix. Have had one in my 7s TR-6 for over
10 years now. Major difference. And no more point adjusting. AND...it
comes in at less than $100.

Deano

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of tony korman
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:39 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
d'Elegance May 17th 2009]

Electronic ignition was put in my TR6 soon after I got it.  HUGE
difference.
It fits inside the distributor like Ron states and the car runs great.
That plus the tune up/valve adjustment that Ron Larson did on the car
months ago.
Any TR6 owners out there that have replaced the rear level shocks with
spring and tube shocks.  Curious how you like it.
Tony
________________________________
From: Ron Engelhardt <nobbc at sonic.net>
To:
North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November
19, 2008 11:29:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
d'Elegance May 17th 2009]

Norm, You might consider using the
Pertronix electronic ignition that
fits inside your original distributor. I use one on my car and would
never want to switch back. Aside from looking original, the car runs
smoother and better. I also switched to the Lucas Sport Coil and now
have no (well little) cold weather start problems.

Back
to the Concours, I have entered a few and done surprisingly
(shockingly)
well. I still prefer getting in the car and DRIVING it;-) Maybe Nobbc
should have a Concous D' Unelegance someday and outlaw garage queens.

Ron
58 MGA
Norman Weinfeld wrote:

> Ron,
>
> Oh yeah, I forgot about the added seat
belts... And I haven't given up on the
> electronic ignition, it's just that
the damn things come in at around $200 and
> it was hard enough to do that
once, let alone twice in succession. Probably
> not for the New Year's Day
Anti-Football drive, but hopefully by next
> season...
>
> Norm
>
>
> From:
gtwincams
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:43 AM
> To: North Bay
British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin
Sonoma Concours
> d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
>
>
> Ha! Yes, I'm right with
you, Norm. None of our cars are original. When I
> first entered the Elan in
the British car shown in Palo Alto, one of my
> fellow Lotus owners, nose
firmly extended up in the air, proclaimed my
> car a hack job because it has a
roll bar and does not have standard
> seatbelts. Since my wife Trish won't
ride in the car or drive it without
> some sense that she will live through
the experience, it's a no-brainer
> to me. Nevertheless, seeing
concours-quality cars is usually a treat.
> Having said that, I actually
prefer  looking at vintage race cars than
> over-restored high-end
collectibles.
> Don't abandon the idea of electronic ignition - that's been
the first
> conversion for all of my cars, and has been a great improvement. I
had a
> VW squareback that required adjusting points at least every 3,000
miles
> - what a pain!
> Cheers,
> Greg
>
>
>  Norman Weinfeld wrote:
>
>>Greg,
>>
>>No clipboard-toting authenticity sniffers for me thanks. My
originality
>
> issues
>
>>begin with radial tires (de rigueur in my
opinion), inauthentic (Mercedes
>>replicas even!) sun visors, unoriginal (to
my car) dual stainless (gasp!)
>>exhausts, an electric fan, unoriginal (to my
car) wire wheels (and splined
>>hubs, etc., etc.), Mark II type emergency
flashers, etc., etc., etc. I even
>>tried installing an electronic ignition
but it unfortunately got fried via
>>hooking it up backwards (who knew we'd
been switched over to negative
>
> ground?)
>
>>All of which makes it big
fun to drive (except for the fried ignition). It
>>would doubtless be a treat
to go and have a look, but I'll burn my 50 clams
>
> in
>
>>my gas tank
instead of enter thank you very much.
>>
>>Norm Weinfeld
>>San Francisco
>>XK140 DHC
>>
>>
>>From: gtwincams
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:59
AM
>>To: North Bay British Car Club
>>Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for
entries to the Marin Sonoma
>>Concoursd'Elegance May 17th 2009]
>>
>>
>>Hi
Group,
>>Sounds very fancy, and not sure many of us have cars that would do
well
>>on an originality judging such as this (except for you, Norm), but
these
>>are always interesting. Tom Price is a sponsor, and most of us know
>>something of his collection...
>>How was the drive on Saturday? Looks from
the photos that the Wine
>>Country group had a lot of interesting cars on
their drive, which was
>>the same day.
>>Cheers,
>>Greg Tatarian
>>_______________________________________________
>>Nobbc mailing list
>>Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>_______________________________________________
>>Nobbc mailing list
>>Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>
>
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>
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>
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From ppanther at ix.netcom.com  Wed Nov 19 17:27:40 2008
From: ppanther at ix.netcom.com (ppanther)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:27:40 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <BAY140-DS1D54A7D54A591AAFD30689F0D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKAEHOCBAA.ppanther@ix.netcom.com>

Well Norm I will quit heaping praise on your XK now that I know it is no
better than a mongrel bitsa.

In all seriousness folks you should look at what you get with the entry.
I entered a bike in the Concorso one year for $50, that got me 2 passes, a
coffee table book on Bizarinni, passes to the coffee tent and free parking.
If I remember right it was $125 per person to walk in.
If I went back I would ride a junk bike on to the lawn for the savings.
You may need to be a little thick skinned to pull it off but it is great fun
watching noses get bent.
Not saying that is the option here but keeping the avenues open some of you
have very nice cars, concours in my opinion.
An event like this could make for a ride with parking in the coral area. I
think some of the best cars are seen there.

Larry Gardini
Owner of cars in the rough.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Norman Weinfeld
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:36 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
d'Elegance May 17th 2009]

Greg,

No clipboard-toting authenticity sniffers for me thanks. My originality
issues
begin with radial tires (de rigueur in my opinion), inauthentic (Mercedes
replicas even!) sun visors, unoriginal (to my car) dual stainless (gasp!)
exhausts, an electric fan, unoriginal (to my car) wire wheels (and splined
hubs, etc., etc.), Mark II type emergency flashers, etc., etc., etc. I even
tried installing an electronic ignition but it unfortunately got fried via
hooking it up backwards (who knew we'd been switched over to negative
ground?)
All of which makes it big fun to drive (except for the fried ignition). It
would doubtless be a treat to go and have a look, but I'll burn my 50 clams
in
my gas tank instead of enter thank you very much.

Norm Weinfeld
San Francisco
XK140 DHC


From: gtwincams
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:59 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma
Concoursd'Elegance May 17th 2009]


Hi Group,
Sounds very fancy, and not sure many of us have cars that would do well
on an originality judging such as this (except for you, Norm), but these
are always interesting. Tom Price is a sponsor, and most of us know
something of his collection...
How was the drive on Saturday? Looks from the photos that the Wine
Country group had a lot of interesting cars on their drive, which was
the same day.
Cheers,
Greg Tatarian
_______________________________________________
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http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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From haiku99 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 19 17:44:41 2008
From: haiku99 at gmail.com (Bill Crowe)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:44:41 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKAEHOCBAA.ppanther@ix.netcom.com>
References: <BAY140-DS1D54A7D54A591AAFD30689F0D0@phx.gbl>
	<MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKAEHOCBAA.ppanther@ix.netcom.com>
Message-ID: <188b620b0811191644q35b9460fic1490f26362b8ab9@mail.gmail.com>

Interesting idea, could be worthwhile!....BTW, are you the same Larry
Gardini who was in the S.F. Northstars MC back in the '80's??  Was a member
myself back then, rode a BMW R90S...

Bill Crowe

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:27 PM, ppanther <ppanther at ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Well Norm I will quit heaping praise on your XK now that I know it is no
> better than a mongrel bitsa.
>
> In all seriousness folks you should look at what you get with the entry.
> I entered a bike in the Concorso one year for $50, that got me 2 passes, a
> coffee table book on Bizarinni, passes to the coffee tent and free parking.
> If I remember right it was $125 per person to walk in.
> If I went back I would ride a junk bike on to the lawn for the savings.
> You may need to be a little thick skinned to pull it off but it is great
> fun
> watching noses get bent.
> Not saying that is the option here but keeping the avenues open some of you
> have very nice cars, concours in my opinion.
> An event like this could make for a ride with parking in the coral area. I
> think some of the best cars are seen there.
>
> Larry Gardini
> Owner of cars in the rough.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Norman Weinfeld
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:36 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
> d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
>
> Greg,
>
> No clipboard-toting authenticity sniffers for me thanks. My originality
> issues
> begin with radial tires (de rigueur in my opinion), inauthentic (Mercedes
> replicas even!) sun visors, unoriginal (to my car) dual stainless (gasp!)
> exhausts, an electric fan, unoriginal (to my car) wire wheels (and splined
> hubs, etc., etc.), Mark II type emergency flashers, etc., etc., etc. I even
> tried installing an electronic ignition but it unfortunately got fried via
> hooking it up backwards (who knew we'd been switched over to negative
> ground?)
> All of which makes it big fun to drive (except for the fried ignition). It
> would doubtless be a treat to go and have a look, but I'll burn my 50 clams
> in
> my gas tank instead of enter thank you very much.
>
> Norm Weinfeld
> San Francisco
> XK140 DHC
>
>
> From: gtwincams
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:59 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma
> Concoursd'Elegance May 17th 2009]
>
>
> Hi Group,
> Sounds very fancy, and not sure many of us have cars that would do well
> on an originality judging such as this (except for you, Norm), but these
> are always interesting. Tom Price is a sponsor, and most of us know
> something of his collection...
> How was the drive on Saturday? Looks from the photos that the Wine
> Country group had a lot of interesting cars on their drive, which was
> the same day.
> Cheers,
> Greg Tatarian
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 19 18:48:34 2008
From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:48:34 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKAEHOCBAA.ppanther@ix.netcom.com>
References: <MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKAEHOCBAA.ppanther@ix.netcom.com>
Message-ID: <BAY140-DS47ED4486D8637267DA6779F0C0@phx.gbl>

Larry,

Oh boy! If there's one thing I'm short on it's coffee table car books... But
you're right, I shall study the particulars. I suppose I could always
resolutely leave the hood (um... bonnet) down and append a sign saying
something like, "Judge Not Lest Ye be Mooned" or some such. And so Larry,
where were you on the Pedal Pushers drive, eh? You were sorely missed. But not
to worry, we're healing, if only gradually.

Norm


From: ppanther
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:27 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
d'Elegance May 17th 2009]


Well Norm I will quit heaping praise on your XK now that I know it is no
better than a mongrel bitsa.

In all seriousness folks you should look at what you get with the entry.
I entered a bike in the Concorso one year for $50, that got me 2 passes, a
coffee table book on Bizarinni, passes to the coffee tent and free parking.
If I remember right it was $125 per person to walk in.
If I went back I would ride a junk bike on to the lawn for the savings.
You may need to be a little thick skinned to pull it off but it is great fun
watching noses get bent.
Not saying that is the option here but keeping the avenues open some of you
have very nice cars, concours in my opinion.
An event like this could make for a ride with parking in the coral area. I
think some of the best cars are seen there.

Larry Gardini
Owner of cars in the rough.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Norman Weinfeld
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:36 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
d'Elegance May 17th 2009]

Greg,

No clipboard-toting authenticity sniffers for me thanks. My originality
issues
begin with radial tires (de rigueur in my opinion), inauthentic (Mercedes
replicas even!) sun visors, unoriginal (to my car) dual stainless (gasp!)
exhausts, an electric fan, unoriginal (to my car) wire wheels (and splined
hubs, etc., etc.), Mark II type emergency flashers, etc., etc., etc. I even
tried installing an electronic ignition but it unfortunately got fried via
hooking it up backwards (who knew we'd been switched over to negative
ground?)
All of which makes it big fun to drive (except for the fried ignition). It
would doubtless be a treat to go and have a look, but I'll burn my 50 clams
in
my gas tank instead of enter thank you very much.

Norm Weinfeld
San Francisco
XK140 DHC


From: gtwincams
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:59 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma
Concoursd'Elegance May 17th 2009]


Hi Group,
Sounds very fancy, and not sure many of us have cars that would do well
on an originality judging such as this (except for you, Norm), but these
are always interesting. Tom Price is a sponsor, and most of us know
something of his collection...
How was the drive on Saturday? Looks from the photos that the Wine
Country group had a lot of interesting cars on their drive, which was
the same day.
Cheers,
Greg Tatarian
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
_______________________________________________
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http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From dawson at authorspublishing.com  Wed Nov 19 19:03:38 2008
From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:03:38 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <BAY140-DS47ED4486D8637267DA6779F0C0@phx.gbl>
References: <MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKAEHOCBAA.ppanther@ix.netcom.com>
	<BAY140-DS47ED4486D8637267DA6779F0C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <F5EFE12C-E43E-40FE-8572-27222C08A150@authorspublishing.com>

Maybe we could all drive to the Marin Concours as a club!

Dawson


On Nov 19, 2008, at 5:48 PM, Norman Weinfeld wrote:

> Larry,
>
> Oh boy! If there's one thing I'm short on it's coffee table car  
> books... But
> you're right, I shall study the particulars. I suppose I could always
> resolutely leave the hood (um... bonnet) down and append a sign saying
> something like, "Judge Not Lest Ye be Mooned" or some such. And so  
> Larry,
> where were you on the Pedal Pushers drive, eh? You were sorely  
> missed. But not
> to worry, we're healing, if only gradually.
>
> Norm
>
>
> From: ppanther
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:27 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma  
> Concours
> d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
>
>
> Well Norm I will quit heaping praise on your XK now that I know it  
> is no
> better than a mongrel bitsa.
>
> In all seriousness folks you should look at what you get with the  
> entry.
> I entered a bike in the Concorso one year for $50, that got me 2  
> passes, a
> coffee table book on Bizarinni, passes to the coffee tent and free  
> parking.
> If I remember right it was $125 per person to walk in.
> If I went back I would ride a junk bike on to the lawn for the  
> savings.
> You may need to be a little thick skinned to pull it off but it is  
> great fun
> watching noses get bent.
> Not saying that is the option here but keeping the avenues open some  
> of you
> have very nice cars, concours in my opinion.
> An event like this could make for a ride with parking in the coral  
> area. I
> think some of the best cars are seen there.
>
> Larry Gardini
> Owner of cars in the rough.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net 
> ]On
> Behalf Of Norman Weinfeld
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:36 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma  
> Concours
> d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
>
> Greg,
>
> No clipboard-toting authenticity sniffers for me thanks. My  
> originality
> issues
> begin with radial tires (de rigueur in my opinion), inauthentic  
> (Mercedes
> replicas even!) sun visors, unoriginal (to my car) dual stainless  
> (gasp!)
> exhausts, an electric fan, unoriginal (to my car) wire wheels (and  
> splined
> hubs, etc., etc.), Mark II type emergency flashers, etc., etc., etc.  
> I even
> tried installing an electronic ignition but it unfortunately got  
> fried via
> hooking it up backwards (who knew we'd been switched over to negative
> ground?)
> All of which makes it big fun to drive (except for the fried  
> ignition). It
> would doubtless be a treat to go and have a look, but I'll burn my  
> 50 clams
> in
> my gas tank instead of enter thank you very much.
>
> Norm Weinfeld
> San Francisco
> XK140 DHC
>
>
> From: gtwincams
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:59 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma
> Concoursd'Elegance May 17th 2009]
>
>
> Hi Group,
> Sounds very fancy, and not sure many of us have cars that would do  
> well
> on an originality judging such as this (except for you, Norm), but  
> these
> are always interesting. Tom Price is a sponsor, and most of us know
> something of his collection...
> How was the drive on Saturday? Looks from the photos that the Wine
> Country group had a lot of interesting cars on their drive, which was
> the same day.
> Cheers,
> Greg Tatarian
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
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From ppanther at ix.netcom.com  Wed Nov 19 22:25:46 2008
From: ppanther at ix.netcom.com (LGardini)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:25:46 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <188b620b0811191644q35b9460fic1490f26362b8ab9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081120052550.06C3E187657@autox.team.net>

Yes sir guilty as charged.
I rode a Guzzi Lemans in the late 70s and a hot rod SR 500 for a while in
between the Guzzi and a CB 900F followed by a Honda 750 Interceptor which
Woody dropped on the floor of the Norton garage the first night I had it.
Then a BMW GS 100 made a few N. Star rides.
What kind of cars are you driving now?
Larry 

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Bill Crowe
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:45 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
d'Elegance May 17th 2009]

Interesting idea, could be worthwhile!....BTW, are you the same Larry
Gardini who was in the S.F. Northstars MC back in the '80's??  Was a member
myself back then, rode a BMW R90S...

Bill Crowe

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:27 PM, ppanther <ppanther at ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Well Norm I will quit heaping praise on your XK now that I know it is no
> better than a mongrel bitsa.
>
> In all seriousness folks you should look at what you get with the entry.
> I entered a bike in the Concorso one year for $50, that got me 2 passes, a
> coffee table book on Bizarinni, passes to the coffee tent and free
parking.
> If I remember right it was $125 per person to walk in.
> If I went back I would ride a junk bike on to the lawn for the savings.
> You may need to be a little thick skinned to pull it off but it is great
> fun
> watching noses get bent.
> Not saying that is the option here but keeping the avenues open some of
you
> have very nice cars, concours in my opinion.
> An event like this could make for a ride with parking in the coral area. I
> think some of the best cars are seen there.
>
> Larry Gardini
> Owner of cars in the rough.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Norman Weinfeld
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:36 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
> d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
>
> Greg,
>
> No clipboard-toting authenticity sniffers for me thanks. My originality
> issues
> begin with radial tires (de rigueur in my opinion), inauthentic (Mercedes
> replicas even!) sun visors, unoriginal (to my car) dual stainless (gasp!)
> exhausts, an electric fan, unoriginal (to my car) wire wheels (and splined
> hubs, etc., etc.), Mark II type emergency flashers, etc., etc., etc. I
even
> tried installing an electronic ignition but it unfortunately got fried via
> hooking it up backwards (who knew we'd been switched over to negative
> ground?)
> All of which makes it big fun to drive (except for the fried ignition). It
> would doubtless be a treat to go and have a look, but I'll burn my 50
clams
> in
> my gas tank instead of enter thank you very much.
>
> Norm Weinfeld
> San Francisco
> XK140 DHC
>
>
> From: gtwincams
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:59 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma
> Concoursd'Elegance May 17th 2009]
>
>
> Hi Group,
> Sounds very fancy, and not sure many of us have cars that would do well
> on an originality judging such as this (except for you, Norm), but these
> are always interesting. Tom Price is a sponsor, and most of us know
> something of his collection...
> How was the drive on Saturday? Looks from the photos that the Wine
> Country group had a lot of interesting cars on their drive, which was
> the same day.
> Cheers,
> Greg Tatarian
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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From haiku99 at gmail.com  Thu Nov 20 08:18:20 2008
From: haiku99 at gmail.com (Bill Crowe)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:18:20 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <20081120052550.06C3E187657@autox.team.net>
References: <188b620b0811191644q35b9460fic1490f26362b8ab9@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081120052550.06C3E187657@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <188b620b0811200718j58cfce3ah14c889d3036c4051@mail.gmail.com>

Don't have a bike anymore, am driving a Birkin S3/Lotus 7, lotsa fun though
it doesn't feel any safer than a bike and is probably less visible.  BTW
there are some good Northstars photos at Munroe Motors' website...do
remember Woody, meetings at Norton Motors, etc....
Bill

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:25 PM, LGardini <ppanther at ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Yes sir guilty as charged.
> I rode a Guzzi Lemans in the late 70s and a hot rod SR 500 for a while in
> between the Guzzi and a CB 900F followed by a Honda 750 Interceptor which
> Woody dropped on the floor of the Norton garage the first night I had it.
> Then a BMW GS 100 made a few N. Star rides.
> What kind of cars are you driving now?
> Larry

From ppanther at ix.netcom.com  Thu Nov 20 08:37:06 2008
From: ppanther at ix.netcom.com (ppanther)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:37:06 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <188b620b0811200718j58cfce3ah14c889d3036c4051@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKOEHOCBAA.ppanther@ix.netcom.com>

Bill
Contact me off list I would love to get caught up.
ppanther at ix.netcom.com

Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Bill Crowe
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:18 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
d'Elegance May 17th 2009]

Don't have a bike anymore, am driving a Birkin S3/Lotus 7, lotsa fun though
it doesn't feel any safer than a bike and is probably less visible.  BTW
there are some good Northstars photos at Munroe Motors' website...do
remember Woody, meetings at Norton Motors, etc....
Bill

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:25 PM, LGardini <ppanther at ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Yes sir guilty as charged.
> I rode a Guzzi Lemans in the late 70s and a hot rod SR 500 for a while in
> between the Guzzi and a CB 900F followed by a Honda 750 Interceptor which
> Woody dropped on the floor of the Norton garage the first night I had it.
> Then a BMW GS 100 made a few N. Star rides.
> What kind of cars are you driving now?
> Larry
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From bluesson at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 20 14:31:40 2008
From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:31:40 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <49237D95.7040108@sonic.net>
References: <49237D95.7040108@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <BLU123-W412AEE477220AC67B4F16CD00C0@phx.gbl>

   I'd show up with the Grinnall Scorpion, but I'd rather just save the fifty
dollars for bbq and beer. That and the Grinnall Scorpion would just clean up
and piss everyone off when I walked away with PEOPLE'S CHOICE..."With
that??"...I can hear them saying now. :-)   Tom (trying to be funny)> Date:
Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:44:37 -0800> From: nobbc at sonic.net> To:
nobbc at autox.team.net> Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin
Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 17th 2009]> > I received the following and
thought some of you might be interested.> The entry fee seems a little steep
though.> > Ron> 58 MGA> > -------- Original Message --------> Subject: Call
for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May> 17th 2009> Date: Tue,
18 Nov 2008 17:52:23 -0800> From: Erma Murphy <erma at murphyproductions.com>>
To: <nobbc at sonic.net>, <tkamstra at sonic.net>> > > > Hello North Bay British Car
Club:> Please pass the word on to your members about this new Classic Car
show> May 17th in Marin County Ca. Attached is the full call for entries and>
the application form. Hope you will check it out!> > Erma Murphy> Publicist> >
Name of Event: Marin Sonoma Concours dElegance> Date: Sunday May 17th 2009>
Website: www.marinsonomaconcours.org> <http://www.marinsonomaconcours.org> ,>
Venue: Marin County Fair Grounds at Lagoon Park> > Address: 10 Avenue of the
Flags> San Rafael, Ca 94903> Contact e-mail: info at marinsonomaconcours.org>
website: http://marinsonomaconcours.org/> > May 17, 2009 will mark the launch
of a new, world-class, Bay Area> tradition: the Marin Sonoma Concours
dElegance, an automotive> exhibition and award show celebrating the beauty
and craftsmanship of> classic cars and motorcycles from every era. More than
200 entries from> early sophisticates like the Duesenberg to the latest design
by Ferrari> will be on display from 10:00am-4:00pm. Special exhibits plus
music,> food, and family activities will fill out the program. The designated>
charity for this event is Hospice By The Bay, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit>
organization that has been serving the Bay Area since 1975. For more>
information and to down load an entrant application please visit>
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Thu Nov 20 16:52:22 2008
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:52:22 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <BLU123-W412AEE477220AC67B4F16CD00C0@phx.gbl>
References: <49237D95.7040108@sonic.net>
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Message-ID: <4925F836.1070303@sonic.net>

Heh, usually you're just FUNNY looking ;- 0

Tom Reier wrote:
>    I'd show up with the Grinnall Scorpion, but I'd rather just save the fifty
> dollars for bbq and beer. That and the Grinnall Scorpion would just clean up
> and piss everyone off when I walked away with PEOPLE'S CHOICE..."With
> that??"...I can hear them saying now. :-)   Tom (trying to be funny)

From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov 20 19:44:09 2008
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:44:09 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <49237D95.7040108@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <20081121024413.D93FD187651@autox.team.net>

Hi Everyone, I've read all the responses so far and there seems to be a
consensus to not participate in this show.  I've read the rules and there
are lots of different classes.  We can't compete with the Duisenberg's or 12
cylinder Ferraris but we wouldn't have to.  All of our cars would be in the
import classes either pre 1960 or after 1960 and under $5000.  This would be
mainly British/European sports cars that we all own.  One of the main
objectives of our club is to be more visible with our cars and try and
encourage younger people to get into the hobby.  The Marin County Fair is a
great and popular event and extremely well attended. Even if there were just
a few British cars in the show it would be a step in the right direction.
Many of our cars are in great condition and look good.  I don't think they
need to be perfect and completely original, read the entry rules.  There
will only be concours judges for the individual marques, but not for our
type of cars.  I am considering entering my MGA Coupe providing I get it
finished in time and would encourage all of you to reconsider, especially
Greg in his Lotus, and maybe the Alfa will be finished by then, John in his
TR and Norm in his XK 140.  We need to get our hobby with our lower priced
cars out there for others to appreciate and realize that they too can buy
cars like ours and start enjoying them.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 6:45 PM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
d'Elegance May 17th 2009]

I received the following and thought some of you might be interested.
The entry fee seems a little steep though.

Ron
58 MGA

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May
17th 2009
Date: 	Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:52:23 -0800
From: 	Erma Murphy <erma at murphyproductions.com>
To: 	<nobbc at sonic.net>, <tkamstra at sonic.net>



Hello North Bay British Car Club:
Please pass the word on to your members about this new Classic Car show
May 17th in Marin County Ca.  Attached is the full call for entries and
the application form.  Hope you will check it out!

Erma Murphy
Publicist

Name of Event: Marin Sonoma Concours dElegance
Date: Sunday May 17th 2009
Website:   www.marinsonomaconcours.org
<http://www.marinsonomaconcours.org> ,
Venue:   Marin County Fair Grounds at Lagoon Park

Address: 10 Avenue of the Flags
               San Rafael, Ca 94903
Contact e-mail:  info at marinsonomaconcours.org
website:   http://marinsonomaconcours.org/

May 17, 2009 will mark the launch of a new, world-class, Bay Area
tradition: the Marin Sonoma Concours dElegance, an automotive
exhibition and award show celebrating the beauty and craftsmanship of
classic cars and motorcycles from every era. More than 200 entries from
early sophisticates like the Duesenberg to the latest design by Ferrari
will be on display from 10:00am-4:00pm. Special exhibits plus music,
food, and family activities will fill out the program. The designated
charity for this event is Hospice By The Bay, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit
organization that has been serving the Bay Area since 1975. For more
information and to down load an entrant application please visit
http://www.marinsonomaconcours.org/

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From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 20 19:53:05 2008
From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:53:05 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <20081121024413.D93FD187651@autox.team.net>
References: <20081121024413.D93FD187651@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <BAY140-DS2042840722CB6C7C276E99F0F0@phx.gbl>

Well said, Andy. I did note that one can elect not to be judged in any event,
and the price also includes a Continental breakfast, plus lunch, and various
sheltering amenities it sounds like. I shall take your points under advisement
and mull. I definitely am dying to see that coupe!

Norm


From: andy preston
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:44 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
d'Elegance May 17th 2009]


Hi Everyone, I've read all the responses so far and there seems to be a
consensus to not participate in this show.  I've read the rules and there
are lots of different classes.  We can't compete with the Duisenberg's or 12
cylinder Ferraris but we wouldn't have to.  All of our cars would be in the
import classes either pre 1960 or after 1960 and under $5000.  This would be
mainly British/European sports cars that we all own.  One of the main
objectives of our club is to be more visible with our cars and try and
encourage younger people to get into the hobby.  The Marin County Fair is a
great and popular event and extremely well attended. Even if there were just
a few British cars in the show it would be a step in the right direction.
Many of our cars are in great condition and look good.  I don't think they
need to be perfect and completely original, read the entry rules.  There
will only be concours judges for the individual marques, but not for our
type of cars.  I am considering entering my MGA Coupe providing I get it
finished in time and would encourage all of you to reconsider, especially
Greg in his Lotus, and maybe the Alfa will be finished by then, John in his
TR and Norm in his XK 140.  We need to get our hobby with our lower priced
cars out there for others to appreciate and realize that they too can buy
cars like ours and start enjoying them.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 6:45 PM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
d'Elegance May 17th 2009]

I received the following and thought some of you might be interested.
The entry fee seems a little steep though.

Ron
58 MGA

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May
17th 2009
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:52:23 -0800
From: Erma Murphy <erma at murphyproductions.com>
To: <nobbc at sonic.net>, <tkamstra at sonic.net>



Hello North Bay British Car Club:
Please pass the word on to your members about this new Classic Car show
May 17th in Marin County Ca.  Attached is the full call for entries and
the application form.  Hope you will check it out!

Erma Murphy
Publicist

Name of Event: Marin Sonoma Concours dElegance
Date: Sunday May 17th 2009
Website:   www.marinsonomaconcours.org
<http://www.marinsonomaconcours.org> ,
Venue:   Marin County Fair Grounds at Lagoon Park

Address: 10 Avenue of the Flags
               San Rafael, Ca 94903
Contact e-mail:  info at marinsonomaconcours.org
website:   http://marinsonomaconcours.org/

May 17, 2009 will mark the launch of a new, world-class, Bay Area
tradition: the Marin Sonoma Concours dElegance, an automotive
exhibition and award show celebrating the beauty and craftsmanship of
classic cars and motorcycles from every era. More than 200 entries from
early sophisticates like the Duesenberg to the latest design by Ferrari
will be on display from 10:00am-4:00pm. Special exhibits plus music,
food, and family activities will fill out the program. The designated
charity for this event is Hospice By The Bay, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit
organization that has been serving the Bay Area since 1975. For more
information and to down load an entrant application please visit
http://www.marinsonomaconcours.org/

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From nobbc at sonic.net  Thu Nov 20 20:03:10 2008
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:03:10 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <20081121024413.D93FD187651@autox.team.net>
References: <20081121024413.D93FD187651@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <492624EE.6050904@sonic.net>

Andy, I don't disagree with anything you said and would like to attend 
the show BUT the entry fee seems a bit steep!

Ron
58 MGA

andy preston wrote:

> Hi Everyone, I've read all the responses so far and there seems to be a
> consensus to not participate in this show.  I've read the rules and there
> are lots of different classes.  We can't compete with the Duisenberg's or 12
> cylinder Ferraris but we wouldn't have to.  All of our cars would be in the
> import classes either pre 1960 or after 1960 and under $5000.  This would be
> mainly British/European sports cars that we all own.  One of the main
> objectives of our club is to be more visible with our cars and try and
> encourage younger people to get into the hobby.  The Marin County Fair is a
> great and popular event and extremely well attended. Even if there were just
> a few British cars in the show it would be a step in the right direction.
> Many of our cars are in great condition and look good.  I don't think they
> need to be perfect and completely original, read the entry rules.  There
> will only be concours judges for the individual marques, but not for our
> type of cars.  I am considering entering my MGA Coupe providing I get it
> finished in time and would encourage all of you to reconsider, especially
> Greg in his Lotus, and maybe the Alfa will be finished by then, John in his
> TR and Norm in his XK 140.  We need to get our hobby with our lower priced
> cars out there for others to appreciate and realize that they too can buy
> cars like ours and start enjoying them.
> 
> Andy

From drmartyrayman at gmail.com  Thu Nov 20 20:31:06 2008
From: drmartyrayman at gmail.com (Martin Rayman)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:31:06 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <20081121024413.D93FD187651@autox.team.net>
References: <49237D95.7040108@sonic.net>
	<20081121024413.D93FD187651@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <3924ed760811201931i1af7e686s570d7fd433f82fba@mail.gmail.com>

Good point, Andy.
Marty
Kentfield
'53 MG TD

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:44 PM, andy preston <andypreston at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Hi Everyone, I've read all the responses so far and there seems to be a
> consensus to not participate in this show.  I've read the rules and there
> are lots of different classes.  We can't compete with the Duisenberg's or
> 12
> cylinder Ferraris but we wouldn't have to.  All of our cars would be in the
> import classes either pre 1960 or after 1960 and under $5000.  This would
> be
> mainly British/European sports cars that we all own.  One of the main
> objectives of our club is to be more visible with our cars and try and
> encourage younger people to get into the hobby.  The Marin County Fair is a
> great and popular event and extremely well attended. Even if there were
> just
> a few British cars in the show it would be a step in the right direction.
> Many of our cars are in great condition and look good.  I don't think they
> need to be perfect and completely original, read the entry rules.  There
> will only be concours judges for the individual marques, but not for our
> type of cars.  I am considering entering my MGA Coupe providing I get it
> finished in time and would encourage all of you to reconsider, especially
> Greg in his Lotus, and maybe the Alfa will be finished by then, John in his
> TR and Norm in his XK 140.  We need to get our hobby with our lower priced
> cars out there for others to appreciate and realize that they too can buy
> cars like ours and start enjoying them.
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On
> Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 6:45 PM
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
> d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
>
> I received the following and thought some of you might be interested.
> The entry fee seems a little steep though.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject:        Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance
> May
> 17th 2009
> Date:   Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:52:23 -0800
> From:   Erma Murphy <erma at murphyproductions.com>
> To:     <nobbc at sonic.net>, <tkamstra at sonic.net>
>
>
>
> Hello North Bay British Car Club:
> Please pass the word on to your members about this new Classic Car show
> May 17th in Marin County Ca.  Attached is the full call for entries and
> the application form.  Hope you will check it out!
>
> Erma Murphy
> Publicist
>
> Name of Event: Marin Sonoma Concours d Elegance
> Date: Sunday May 17th 2009
> Website:   www.marinsonomaconcours.org
> <http://www.marinsonomaconcours.org> ,
> Venue:   Marin County Fair Grounds at Lagoon Park
>
> Address: 10 Avenue of the Flags
>               San Rafael, Ca 94903
> Contact e-mail:  info at marinsonomaconcours.org
> website:   http://marinsonomaconcours.org/
>
> May 17, 2009 will mark the launch of a new, world-class, Bay Area
> tradition: the Marin Sonoma Concours d Elegance, an automotive
> exhibition and award show celebrating the beauty and craftsmanship of
> classic cars and motorcycles from every era. More than 200 entries from
> early sophisticates like the Duesenberg to the latest design by Ferrari
> will be on display from 10:00am-4:00pm. Special exhibits plus music,
> food, and family activities will fill out the program. The designated
> charity for this event is Hospice By The Bay, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit
> organization that has been serving the Bay Area since 1975. For more
> information and to down load an entrant application please visit
> http://www.marinsonomaconcours.org/
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/msword which had a
> name of ConcoursCall.doc]
>
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From dawson at authorspublishing.com  Thu Nov 20 21:20:46 2008
From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:20:46 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
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References: <49237D95.7040108@sonic.net>
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And believe it or not, my yellow 76 Lotus Sprint is regarded as the  
coolest thing in the world by my teenage kids (though they think some  
of my other cars are off the charts boring!).

My son Lionel enjoyed the ride he took with the club, and plans to  
ride with us more often. He and I have been working on restoring a red  
74 Lotus Elite which is now runs well but still looks beastly ugly.

The more we do to encourage kids his age, the less chance of our cars  
being dumped contemptously by our heirs when we're gone, like the gal  
I bought the Rolls Royce off of a couple of months back.

I'm moving into a new house next month, car friendly, with a huge  
circular parking lot and outdoor barbecue area. Would love to host a  
club lunch after a ride early in 2009. 1490 Mark West Springs Rd.

Dawson


On Nov 20, 2008, at 7:31 PM, Martin Rayman wrote:

> Good point, Andy.
> Marty
> Kentfield
> '53 MG TD
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:44 PM, andy preston <andypreston at sbcglobal.net 
> >wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone, I've read all the responses so far and there seems to  
>> be a
>> consensus to not participate in this show.  I've read the rules and  
>> there
>> are lots of different classes.  We can't compete with the  
>> Duisenberg's or
>> 12
>> cylinder Ferraris but we wouldn't have to.  All of our cars would  
>> be in the
>> import classes either pre 1960 or after 1960 and under $5000.  This  
>> would
>> be
>> mainly British/European sports cars that we all own.  One of the main
>> objectives of our club is to be more visible with our cars and try  
>> and
>> encourage younger people to get into the hobby.  The Marin County  
>> Fair is a
>> great and popular event and extremely well attended. Even if there  
>> were
>> just
>> a few British cars in the show it would be a step in the right  
>> direction.
>> Many of our cars are in great condition and look good.  I don't  
>> think they
>> need to be perfect and completely original, read the entry rules.   
>> There
>> will only be concours judges for the individual marques, but not  
>> for our
>> type of cars.  I am considering entering my MGA Coupe providing I  
>> get it
>> finished in time and would encourage all of you to reconsider,  
>> especially
>> Greg in his Lotus, and maybe the Alfa will be finished by then,  
>> John in his
>> TR and Norm in his XK 140.  We need to get our hobby with our lower  
>> priced
>> cars out there for others to appreciate and realize that they too  
>> can buy
>> cars like ours and start enjoying them.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net 
>> ]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 6:45 PM
>> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
>> d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
>>
>> I received the following and thought some of you might be interested.
>> The entry fee seems a little steep though.
>>
>> Ron
>> 58 MGA
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject:        Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours  
>> d'Elegance
>> May
>> 17th 2009
>> Date:   Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:52:23 -0800
>> From:   Erma Murphy <erma at murphyproductions.com>
>> To:     <nobbc at sonic.net>, <tkamstra at sonic.net>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello North Bay British Car Club:
>> Please pass the word on to your members about this new Classic Car  
>> show
>> May 17th in Marin County Ca.  Attached is the full call for entries  
>> and
>> the application form.  Hope you will check it out!
>>
>> Erma Murphy
>> Publicist
>>
>> Name of Event: Marin Sonoma Concours d Elegance
>> Date: Sunday May 17th 2009
>> Website:   www.marinsonomaconcours.org
>> <http://www.marinsonomaconcours.org> ,
>> Venue:   Marin County Fair Grounds at Lagoon Park
>>
>> Address: 10 Avenue of the Flags
>>              San Rafael, Ca 94903
>> Contact e-mail:  info at marinsonomaconcours.org
>> website:   http://marinsonomaconcours.org/
>>
>> May 17, 2009 will mark the launch of a new, world-class, Bay Area
>> tradition: the Marin Sonoma Concours d Elegance, an automotive
>> exhibition and award show celebrating the beauty and craftsmanship of
>> classic cars and motorcycles from every era. More than 200 entries  
>> from
>> early sophisticates like the Duesenberg to the latest design by  
>> Ferrari
>> will be on display from 10:00am-4:00pm. Special exhibits plus music,
>> food, and family activities will fill out the program. The designated
>> charity for this event is Hospice By The Bay, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit
>> organization that has been serving the Bay Area since 1975. For more
>> information and to down load an entrant application please visit
>> http://www.marinsonomaconcours.org/
>>
>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/msword  
>> which had a
>> name of ConcoursCall.doc]
>>
>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet- 
>> stream which
>> had a name of MSCCoverwHvyLineLogo.pdf]
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
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> Pediatric Dentistry
> 912 Grand Avenue, #202
> San Rafael, CA 94901-3538
> Voice: 415.459.1444
> FAX:   415.459.1320
> Website: http://www.openbigdds.com
>
> NOTICE: This communication, including any attachments, is  
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From sarto477 at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 21 00:01:14 2008
From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:01:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
Message-ID: <439195.14966.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hello all, I'm new to the club and will attend the Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance.  I had no idea that there are so many local Lotus cars.  And Dawson having a car friendly home, what a dream come true.  A two car garage fits hers, mine and my 1966 LOtus Elan coupe.  If I was to get another car, my wife asked how I was going to fit a bed in the garage.  Looking forward to the club's drives etc. 
As a non-serious hobby I developed a spinner knockoff tool and now have a very basic web site with photos where British cars can be posted.  Send a picture to me and I'll try to show them. The red spitfire was mine and the BRG Elan is still mine.  http://knockoffspinnertool.com/
Enjoy, Sarto Rocheleau

--- On Thu, 11/20/08, Dawson Church <dawson at authorspublishing.com> wrote:

> From: Dawson Church <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 8:20 PM
> And believe it or not, my yellow 76 Lotus Sprint is regarded
> as the coolest thing in the world by my teenage kids (though
> they think some of my other cars are off the charts
> boring!).
> 
> My son Lionel enjoyed the ride he took with the club, and
> plans to ride with us more often. He and I have been working
> on restoring a red 74 Lotus Elite which is now runs well but
> still looks beastly ugly.
> 
> The more we do to encourage kids his age, the less chance
> of our cars being dumped contemptously by our heirs when
> we're gone, like the gal I bought the Rolls Royce off of
> a couple of months back.
> 
> I'm moving into a new house next month, car friendly,
> with a huge circular parking lot and outdoor barbecue area.
> Would love to host a club lunch after a ride early in 2009.
> 1490 Mark West Springs Rd.
> 
> Dawson
> 
> 
> On Nov 20, 2008, at 7:31 PM, Martin Rayman wrote:
> 
> > Good point, Andy.
> > Marty
> > Kentfield
> > '53 MG TD
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:44 PM, andy preston
> <andypreston at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi Everyone, I've read all the responses so
> far and there seems to be a
> >> consensus to not participate in this show. 
> I've read the rules and there
> >> are lots of different classes.  We can't
> compete with the Duisenberg's or
> >> 12
> >> cylinder Ferraris but we wouldn't have to. 
> All of our cars would be in the
> >> import classes either pre 1960 or after 1960 and
> under $5000.  This would
> >> be
> >> mainly British/European sports cars that we all
> own.  One of the main
> >> objectives of our club is to be more visible with
> our cars and try and
> >> encourage younger people to get into the hobby. 
> The Marin County Fair is a
> >> great and popular event and extremely well
> attended. Even if there were
> >> just
> >> a few British cars in the show it would be a step
> in the right direction.
> >> Many of our cars are in great condition and look
> good.  I don't think they
> >> need to be perfect and completely original, read
> the entry rules.  There
> >> will only be concours judges for the individual
> marques, but not for our
> >> type of cars.  I am considering entering my MGA
> Coupe providing I get it
> >> finished in time and would encourage all of you to
> reconsider, especially
> >> Greg in his Lotus, and maybe the Alfa will be
> finished by then, John in his
> >> TR and Norm in his XK 140.  We need to get our
> hobby with our lower priced
> >> cars out there for others to appreciate and
> realize that they too can buy
> >> cars like ours and start enjoying them.
> >> 
> >> Andy
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
> >> On
> >> Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 6:45 PM
> >> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> >> Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the
> Marin Sonoma Concours
> >> d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
> >> 
> >> I received the following and thought some of you
> might be interested.
> >> The entry fee seems a little steep though.
> >> 
> >> Ron
> >> 58 MGA
> >> 
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> Subject:        Call for entries to the Marin
> Sonoma Concours d'Elegance
> >> May
> >> 17th 2009
> >> Date:   Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:52:23 -0800
> >> From:   Erma Murphy
> <erma at murphyproductions.com>
> >> To:     <nobbc at sonic.net>,
> <tkamstra at sonic.net>
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hello North Bay British Car Club:
> >> Please pass the word on to your members about this
> new Classic Car show
> >> May 17th in Marin County Ca.  Attached is the full
> call for entries and
> >> the application form.  Hope you will check it out!
> >> 
> >> Erma Murphy
> >> Publicist
> >> 
> >> Name of Event: Marin Sonoma Concours d Elegance
> >> Date: Sunday May 17th 2009
> >> Website:   www.marinsonomaconcours.org
> >> <http://www.marinsonomaconcours.org> ,
> >> Venue:   Marin County Fair Grounds at Lagoon Park
> >> 
> >> Address: 10 Avenue of the Flags
> >>              San Rafael, Ca 94903
> >> Contact e-mail:  info at marinsonomaconcours.org
> >> website:   http://marinsonomaconcours.org/
> >> 
> >> May 17, 2009 will mark the launch of a new,
> world-class, Bay Area
> >> tradition: the Marin Sonoma Concours d Elegance,
> an automotive
> >> exhibition and award show celebrating the beauty
> and craftsmanship of
> >> classic cars and motorcycles from every era. More
> than 200 entries from
> >> early sophisticates like the Duesenberg to the
> latest design by Ferrari
> >> will be on display from 10:00am-4:00pm. Special
> exhibits plus music,
> >> food, and family activities will fill out the
> program. The designated
> >> charity for this event is Hospice By The Bay, a
> 501(c)(3) nonprofit
> >> organization that has been serving the Bay Area
> since 1975. For more
> >> information and to down load an entrant
> application please visit
> >> http://www.marinsonomaconcours.org/
> >> 
> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type
> application/msword which had a
> >> name of ConcoursCall.doc]
> >> 
> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type
> application/octet-stream which
> >> had a name of MSCCoverwHvyLineLogo.pdf]
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Nobbc mailing list
> >> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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> >> Nobbc mailing list
> >> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --Martin Sinai Rayman, D.D.S.
> > Pediatric Dentistry
> > 912 Grand Avenue, #202
> > San Rafael, CA 94901-3538
> > Voice: 415.459.1444
> > FAX:   415.459.1320
> > Website: http://www.openbigdds.com
> > 
> > NOTICE: This communication, including any attachments,
> is confidential and
> > may be protected by privilege. If you are not the
> intended recipient, any
> > use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this
> communication is
> > strictly prohibited. If you have received this
> communication in error,
> > please immediately notify the sender by telephone or
> e-mail, and permanently
> > delete all copies, electronic or other, you may have.
> The foregoing applies
> > even if this notice is embedded in a message that is
> forwarded or attached.
> > _______________________________________________
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Fri Nov 21 00:15:46 2008
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:15:46 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <D191FA82-47BB-4460-B9F0-6916A10434C5@authorspublishing.com>
References: <49237D95.7040108@sonic.net>
	<20081121024413.D93FD187651@autox.team.net>
	<3924ed760811201931i1af7e686s570d7fd433f82fba@mail.gmail.com>
	<D191FA82-47BB-4460-B9F0-6916A10434C5@authorspublishing.com>
Message-ID: <49266022.1030007@sonic.net>

Dawson, congrats on the new home. Let me know when you want to host the 
club and we'll make it happen!

Ron
58 MGA

Dawson Church wrote:

> And believe it or not, my yellow 76 Lotus Sprint is regarded as the  
> coolest thing in the world by my teenage kids (though they think some  
> of my other cars are off the charts boring!).
> 
> My son Lionel enjoyed the ride he took with the club, and plans to  ride 
> with us more often. He and I have been working on restoring a red  74 
> Lotus Elite which is now runs well but still looks beastly ugly.
> 
> The more we do to encourage kids his age, the less chance of our cars  
> being dumped contemptously by our heirs when we're gone, like the gal  I 
> bought the Rolls Royce off of a couple of months back.
> 
> I'm moving into a new house next month, car friendly, with a huge  
> circular parking lot and outdoor barbecue area. Would love to host a  
> club lunch after a ride early in 2009. 1490 Mark West Springs Rd.
> 
> Dawson

From fawn220 at comcast.net  Fri Nov 21 07:52:57 2008
From: fawn220 at comcast.net (John Kenner)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:52:57 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <49266022.1030007@sonic.net>
References: <49237D95.7040108@sonic.net>
	<20081121024413.D93FD187651@autox.team.net>
	<3924ed760811201931i1af7e686s570d7fd433f82fba@mail.gmail.com>
	<D191FA82-47BB-4460-B9F0-6916A10434C5@authorspublishing.com>
	<49266022.1030007@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <001b01c94be8$db2ac940$91805bc0$@net>

MY 2 CENTS WORTH,

I THINK WE SHOULD GO AS A CLUB AND SHOW OFF OUR CARS.
WE DON'T EXPECT OR WANT TO GET ANY AWARDS. 
JUST SHOW THEM HOW MUCH FUN THEY COULD BE HAVING.

BESIDES MY TR250 SHOULD BE PRETTY MUCH RESTORED BY THEN.

JOHN KENNER

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:16 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
d'Elegance May 17th 2009]

Dawson, congrats on the new home. Let me know when you want to host the 
club and we'll make it happen!

Ron
58 MGA

Dawson Church wrote:

> And believe it or not, my yellow 76 Lotus Sprint is regarded as the  
> coolest thing in the world by my teenage kids (though they think some  
> of my other cars are off the charts boring!).
> 
> My son Lionel enjoyed the ride he took with the club, and plans to  ride 
> with us more often. He and I have been working on restoring a red  74 
> Lotus Elite which is now runs well but still looks beastly ugly.
> 
> The more we do to encourage kids his age, the less chance of our cars  
> being dumped contemptously by our heirs when we're gone, like the gal  I 
> bought the Rolls Royce off of a couple of months back.
> 
> I'm moving into a new house next month, car friendly, with a huge  
> circular parking lot and outdoor barbecue area. Would love to host a  
> club lunch after a ride early in 2009. 1490 Mark West Springs Rd.
> 
> Dawson
_______________________________________________
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From gtwincams at pacbell.net  Fri Nov 21 08:38:12 2008
From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:38:12 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <001b01c94be8$db2ac940$91805bc0$@net>
References: <49237D95.7040108@sonic.net>
	<20081121024413.D93FD187651@autox.team.net>
	<3924ed760811201931i1af7e686s570d7fd433f82fba@mail.gmail.com>
	<D191FA82-47BB-4460-B9F0-6916A10434C5@authorspublishing.com>
	<49266022.1030007@sonic.net> <001b01c94be8$db2ac940$91805bc0$@net>
Message-ID: <4926D5E3.3090000@pacbell.net>

Hi All,
Who would have thought this simple invitation would generate this much 
discussion, on this normally very quiet list? I think it's great - and 
figure it's because it raises the questions we've been discussing lately 
about how to share our interest in these cars and keep them alive and in 
the hands of drivers, not just collectors. It's kind of the core 
philosophy of this club, I believe.

Larry, Andy and John make really good points. I think a club presence 
would be a great thing for all of the reasons stated. Concerns over the 
entry fee are important to some, but one way to look at the cost is not 
as an entry fee, but a day's worth of entertainment pleasure, including 
all of the previously noted perks and features the fee provides. I was 
ambivalent before, but now am looking forward to May 17.

It's going to be a fun start to next year's club activities; a visit to 
my friends at Saintsbury, the Concours, and more!

Cheers,
Greg

From sarto477 at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 21 09:51:55 2008
From: sarto477 at yahoo.com (Sarto Rocheleau)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:51:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <4926D5E3.3090000@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <946687.29247.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hi all again, I just wanted to add one thing,  My mother has recently passed and Hospice was there for her last days.  I can't say how much help they gave with many family follow ups afterwards.  It is a charity 
for a good cause.  Us old guys may some day want to use their free service.    
It is one day and in our own back yard.  So let's have some fun with friends and family!!

Sarto


--- On Fri, 11/21/08, gtwincams <gtwincams at pacbell.net> wrote:

> From: gtwincams <gtwincams at pacbell.net>
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 7:38 AM
> Hi All,
> Who would have thought this simple invitation would
> generate this much discussion, on this normally very quiet
> list? I think it's great - and figure it's because
> it raises the questions we've been discussing lately
> about how to share our interest in these cars and keep them
> alive and in the hands of drivers, not just collectors.
> It's kind of the core philosophy of this club, I
> believe.
> 
> Larry, Andy and John make really good points. I think a
> club presence would be a great thing for all of the reasons
> stated. Concerns over the entry fee are important to some,
> but one way to look at the cost is not as an entry fee, but
> a day's worth of entertainment pleasure, including all
> of the previously noted perks and features the fee provides.
> I was ambivalent before, but now am looking forward to May
> 17.
> 
> It's going to be a fun start to next year's club
> activities; a visit to my friends at Saintsbury, the
> Concours, and more!
> 
> Cheers,
> Greg
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From splath at comcast.net  Fri Nov 21 19:08:13 2008
From: splath at comcast.net (Steve Plath)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:08:13 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
References: <946687.29247.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002301c94c47$2d5c4320$6301a8c0@dell8300>

Sarto,

I've been following this thread for the last couple of days and was thinking 
the same thing as you.  Fifty dollars is not much for a great day of cars, 
especially when you know the proceeds are going to a very deserving 
organization.  Thanks for reminding us.

Steve Plath

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sarto Rocheleau" <sarto477 at yahoo.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours 
d'Elegance May 17th 2009]


> Hi all again, I just wanted to add one thing,  My mother has recently 
> passed and Hospice was there for her last days.  I can't say how much help 
> they gave with many family follow ups afterwards.  It is a charity
> for a good cause.  Us old guys may some day want to use their free 
> service.
> It is one day and in our own back yard.  So let's have some fun with 
> friends and family!!
>
> Sarto
>
>
> --- On Fri, 11/21/08, gtwincams <gtwincams at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> From: gtwincams <gtwincams at pacbell.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours 
>> d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 7:38 AM
>> Hi All,
>> Who would have thought this simple invitation would
>> generate this much discussion, on this normally very quiet
>> list? I think it's great - and figure it's because
>> it raises the questions we've been discussing lately
>> about how to share our interest in these cars and keep them
>> alive and in the hands of drivers, not just collectors.
>> It's kind of the core philosophy of this club, I
>> believe.
>>
>> Larry, Andy and John make really good points. I think a
>> club presence would be a great thing for all of the reasons
>> stated. Concerns over the entry fee are important to some,
>> but one way to look at the cost is not as an entry fee, but
>> a day's worth of entertainment pleasure, including all
>> of the previously noted perks and features the fee provides.
>> I was ambivalent before, but now am looking forward to May
>> 17.
>>
>> It's going to be a fun start to next year's club
>> activities; a visit to my friends at Saintsbury, the
>> Concours, and more!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Greg
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From rlmossholder at comcast.net  Sat Nov 22 08:50:34 2008
From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:50:34 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
Message-ID: <112220081550.2656.49282A4A000262D300000A6022007481849D0A0B0401089C9C0103049D@comcast.net>

  I think we should go as a group, invade the show with a smattering of non-original cars, and an air of sophistication replete with the attitude of a Liverpool rugby team and a taste for mayhem!. We could be the second coming of the  British Invasion!

 ...or we could go and just have a good time

Cheers,
Rich


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Steve Plath" <splath at comcast.net>
> Sarto,
> 
> I've been following this thread for the last couple of days and was thinking 
> the same thing as you.  Fifty dollars is not much for a great day of cars, 
> especially when you know the proceeds are going to a very deserving 
> organization.  Thanks for reminding us.
> 
> Steve Plath
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sarto Rocheleau" <sarto477 at yahoo.com>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours 
> d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
> 
> 
> > Hi all again, I just wanted to add one thing,  My mother has recently 
> > passed and Hospice was there for her last days.  I can't say how much help 
> > they gave with many family follow ups afterwards.  It is a charity
> > for a good cause.  Us old guys may some day want to use their free 
> > service.
> > It is one day and in our own back yard.  So let's have some fun with 
> > friends and family!!
> >
> > Sarto
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 11/21/08, gtwincams <gtwincams at pacbell.net> wrote:
> >
> >> From: gtwincams <gtwincams at pacbell.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours 
> >> d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
> >> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> >> Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 7:38 AM
> >> Hi All,
> >> Who would have thought this simple invitation would
> >> generate this much discussion, on this normally very quiet
> >> list? I think it's great - and figure it's because
> >> it raises the questions we've been discussing lately
> >> about how to share our interest in these cars and keep them
> >> alive and in the hands of drivers, not just collectors.
> >> It's kind of the core philosophy of this club, I
> >> believe.
> >>
> >> Larry, Andy and John make really good points. I think a
> >> club presence would be a great thing for all of the reasons
> >> stated. Concerns over the entry fee are important to some,
> >> but one way to look at the cost is not as an entry fee, but
> >> a day's worth of entertainment pleasure, including all
> >> of the previously noted perks and features the fee provides.
> >> I was ambivalent before, but now am looking forward to May
> >> 17.
> >>
> >> It's going to be a fun start to next year's club
> >> activities; a visit to my friends at Saintsbury, the
> >> Concours, and more!
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Greg
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From haiku99 at gmail.com  Sat Nov 22 09:39:57 2008
From: haiku99 at gmail.com (Bill Crowe)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:39:57 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <112220081550.2656.49282A4A000262D300000A6022007481849D0A0B0401089C9C0103049D@comcast.net>
References: <112220081550.2656.49282A4A000262D300000A6022007481849D0A0B0401089C9C0103049D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <188b620b0811220839i19253b51l5c227254f6894f4b@mail.gmail.com>

An excellent idea, and I'd be happy to bring my African (Birkin) Lotus
7....perhaps a few pints and a viewing of "The Road Warrior" by the group
prior to arrival???

Bill

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 3:50 PM, <rlmossholder at comcast.net> wrote:

>  I think we should go as a group, invade the show with a smattering of
> non-original cars, and an air of sophistication replete with the attitude of
> a Liverpool rugby team and a taste for mayhem!. We could be the second
> coming of the  British Invasion!
>
>  ...or we could go and just have a good time
>
> Cheers,
> Rich
>
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Steve Plath" <splath at comcast.net>
> > Sarto,
> >
> > I've been following this thread for the last couple of days and was
> thinking
> > the same thing as you.  Fifty dollars is not much for a great day of
> cars,
> > especially when you know the proceeds are going to a very deserving
> > organization.  Thanks for reminding us.
> >
> > Steve Plath
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sarto Rocheleau" <sarto477 at yahoo.com>
> > To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:51 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
> > d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
> >
> >
> > > Hi all again, I just wanted to add one thing,  My mother has recently
> > > passed and Hospice was there for her last days.  I can't say how much
> help
> > > they gave with many family follow ups afterwards.  It is a charity
> > > for a good cause.  Us old guys may some day want to use their free
> > > service.
> > > It is one day and in our own back yard.  So let's have some fun with
> > > friends and family!!
> > >
> > > Sarto
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 11/21/08, gtwincams <gtwincams at pacbell.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> From: gtwincams <gtwincams at pacbell.net>
> > >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma
> Concours
> > >> d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
> > >> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> > >> Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 7:38 AM
> > >> Hi All,
> > >> Who would have thought this simple invitation would
> > >> generate this much discussion, on this normally very quiet
> > >> list? I think it's great - and figure it's because
> > >> it raises the questions we've been discussing lately
> > >> about how to share our interest in these cars and keep them
> > >> alive and in the hands of drivers, not just collectors.
> > >> It's kind of the core philosophy of this club, I
> > >> believe.
> > >>
> > >> Larry, Andy and John make really good points. I think a
> > >> club presence would be a great thing for all of the reasons
> > >> stated. Concerns over the entry fee are important to some,
> > >> but one way to look at the cost is not as an entry fee, but
> > >> a day's worth of entertainment pleasure, including all
> > >> of the previously noted perks and features the fee provides.
> > >> I was ambivalent before, but now am looking forward to May
> > >> 17.
> > >>
> > >> It's going to be a fun start to next year's club
> > >> activities; a visit to my friends at Saintsbury, the
> > >> Concours, and more!
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Greg
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Nobbc mailing list
> > >> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Nobbc mailing list
> > > Nobbc at autox.team.net
> > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> > _______________________________________________
> > Nobbc mailing list
> > Nobbc at autox.team.net
> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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From lgardini at sbcglobal.net  Sat Nov 22 11:28:14 2008
From: lgardini at sbcglobal.net (lgardini at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:28:14 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR6 heater
Message-ID: <20081122182810.99E9118786F@autox.team.net>

Can some one tell me where I need to start to access the blower motor?

Sounds like a squirrel in there.

I thought I might be nice to have a heater for the winter.

 

Larry Gardini

From bluesson at hotmail.com  Sat Nov 22 12:29:12 2008
From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 11:29:12 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR6 heater
In-Reply-To: <20081122182810.99E9118786F@autox.team.net>
References: <20081122182810.99E9118786F@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <BLU123-W40C1428375A660263EDC8CD00E0@phx.gbl>

   That IS a squirrel in there. His name is Reggie. He's British. Put some tea
and cookies by the heater this evening, and he'll come out.
   I'm only going to the fifty buck concourse if I'm cleared to do massive
360's on the lawn in the Grinnall Scorpion. I could give em a helluva show,
because the lightweight 860 lb machine will simply SPIN over the lawn, not
hurting it, gliding on and on across the lawn. Trust me, I've tested this
procedure at a biker rally, and was applauded loudly.  For fifty bucks, THAT I
would consider getting my money's worth...just to see the looks on the faces
of those "guys" that bust out their saran wrapped trailer queens for these
events.   Tom> From: lgardini at sbcglobal.net> To: Nobbc at autox.team.net> Date:
Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:28:14 -0800> Subject: [Nobbc] TR6 heater> > Can some one
tell me where I need to start to access the blower motor?> > Sounds like a
squirrel in there.> > I thought I might be nice to have a heater for the
winter.> > > > Larry Gardini> _______________________________________________>
Nobbc mailing list> Nobbc at autox.team.net>
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From mewgull at sonic.net  Sat Nov 22 12:43:44 2008
From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 11:43:44 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] [Fwd: Call for entries to the Marin Sonoma Concours
 d'Elegance May 17th 2009]
In-Reply-To: <112220081550.2656.49282A4A000262D300000A6022007481849D0A0B0401089C9C0103049D@comcast.net>
References: <112220081550.2656.49282A4A000262D300000A6022007481849D0A0B0401089C9C0103049D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <61E78346-A704-4E1A-B608-D6BF020661DC@sonic.net>

I like Rich's thinking here.   About 1995 or 1996 the Land Rover
contingent invaded the Hayward British Field Meet.  Easily the
greatest marque representation by multiple hundreds of percents, the
self-proclaimed Lazy-Bugger crowd showed up early, about a dozen and a
half strong.  NONE of the Land Rovers was concours prepared and about
half had spent the prior afternoon off-roading in some seriously muddy
terrain.  One, the muddiest by far, lost it's clutch on the way to the
meet, just as it was ascending the hill to the site; so it was towed
in by one of the others.   There were some raised eyebrows although I
couldn't hear any dismissive sniffs over the din of the drive train on
my '72 Series III 88" SW.  The group is most congenial and given to
spontaneous campsite pot-luck feasts... often offering amazing fare,
such as campfire prepared paella.  So the group erected the parachute
canopy and set up camp. It looked far more like a safari than a car
show.  BTW we're not talking about Range Rovers or any of those other
sissy cars produced in Sollihull... these were all proper slab sided
aluminum skinned Land Rovers.

It was quite the scene and the Land Rovers seemed to be getting more
attention than the pristine Jags and even more than the '52 Aston
Martin.  One of the Dormobiles ( a special camper version of a Land
Rover) got the peoples choice award I believe.  My favorite moment was
while they were announcing the winners over the PA.  The announcer was
trying to direct the public to the display of Jags and Damliers when
he said that the Jags could be found just beyond the Land Rover
display and then explained that the Land Rover area was the part that
looked like a Ugandan Refugee Camp.   I was at the other side of the
show looking at the Loti and heard the roaring cheer go up from under
the parachute.

What may be even more startling about that is that we were all invited
back the following year, despite the whining from some semi-disgusted
owners of some really gorgeous cars.

I think spirit and a willingness to have fun is most important.

BTW Thanks for allowing a tall car to join in last Saturday's fun.

Gerry


On Nov 22, 2008, at 7:50 AM, rlmossholder at comcast.net wrote:

> I think we should go as a group, invade the show with a smattering
> of non-original cars, and an air of sophistication replete with the
> attitude of a Liverpool rugby team and a taste for mayhem!. We could
> be the second coming of the  British Invasion!
>
> ...or we could go and just have a good time
>
> Cheers,
> Rich

G. Mugele
mewgull at mugele.net

*** Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future.
  -- Niels Bohr

From wbain at sonic.net  Sat Nov 22 13:10:43 2008
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:10:43 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR6 heater
In-Reply-To: <20081122182810.99E9118786F@autox.team.net>
References: <20081122182810.99E9118786F@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <021FB4E2-E97B-4B7F-8A81-EF40B504D08C@sonic.net>

Hello Larry,
Not sure if they moved the heater on the TR-6, but my TR-4's had it  
contained
in an assembly pretty much behind the four smaller instruments in the  
center of
the dash. (oil press., ammeter, etc.) over the transmission tunnel.  
It's held in by
three bolts and you'll need to drain the cooling system and remove  
the heater
hoses, and duct hoses to the defrosters. Also the electrical wires to  
the fan
switch, the cables to defroster and heater valve. after the center  
dash support.
The heater assy. is in a metal box with the fan on top. It's kind of  
a pain to get
at, as are most heater core assemblies.
Once out of the car, you will need to take the metal box apart to get  
at the fan.
Fortunately the fan is on top.
It's probably the fan bearing making the squirrel noises. I had one  
that was
pretty much a soprano in it's screech!!! I don't know what is  
available for these
now. Check with Moss Motors.
Hope this helps.

Wendell

On Nov 22, 2008, at 10:28 AM, <lgardini at sbcglobal.net>  
<lgardini at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Can some one tell me where I need to start to access the blower motor?
>
> Sounds like a squirrel in there.
>
> I thought I might be nice to have a heater for the winter.
>
>
>
> Larry Gardini
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com  Sat Nov 22 14:01:37 2008
From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:01:37 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR6 heater
In-Reply-To: <20081122182810.99E9118786F@autox.team.net>
References: <20081122182810.99E9118786F@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <BAY140-DS6816BE81012A20C5D0EF99F0E0@phx.gbl>

Larry,

Funny about the squirrel. After last year's heater-less Anti-Football Run
(when I was still afraid to drive with the top up), I had mine hooked up and
it made a terrific racket. Turned out to be something very much like a
hazelnut in there! Worked fine then until after the Mjlie when it started (and
continued) leaking. New core time then. Not fun. Particularly when it began to
give the radiator similar ideas. Even less fun. Be of good cheer though. Maybe
you could train the critter to keep your feet warm somehow...

Norm Weinfeld


From: lgardini at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 10:28 AM
To: Nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: [Nobbc] TR6 heater


Can some one tell me where I need to start to access the blower motor?

Sounds like a squirrel in there.

I thought I might be nice to have a heater for the winter.



Larry Gardini
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
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From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com  Sat Nov 22 14:17:43 2008
From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:17:43 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR6 heater
In-Reply-To: <20081122182810.99E9118786F@autox.team.net>
	<BAY140-DS6816BE81012A20C5D0EF99F0E0@phx.gbl>
References: <20081122182810.99E9118786F@autox.team.net>
	<BAY140-DS6816BE81012A20C5D0EF99F0E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY140-DS67C9EACE82ACBB205B0629F0E0@phx.gbl>

Sorry. Special characters don't fly here, I forgot (again). "Mjlie" should
have read "Melee."


From: Norman Weinfeld
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 1:01 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] TR6 heater


Larry,

Funny about the squirrel. After last year's heater-less Anti-Football Run
(when I was still afraid to drive with the top up), I had mine hooked up and
it made a terrific racket. Turned out to be something very much like a
hazelnut in there! Worked fine then until after the Mjlie when it started
(and
continued) leaking. New core time then. Not fun. Particularly when it began
to
give the radiator similar ideas. Even less fun. Be of good cheer though.
Maybe
you could train the critter to keep your feet warm somehow...

Norm Weinfeld


From: lgardini at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 10:28 AM
To: Nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: [Nobbc] TR6 heater


Can some one tell me where I need to start to access the blower motor?

Sounds like a squirrel in there.

I thought I might be nice to have a heater for the winter.



Larry Gardini
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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From ppanther at ix.netcom.com  Sat Nov 22 19:44:43 2008
From: ppanther at ix.netcom.com (LGardini)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:44:43 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR6 heater
In-Reply-To: <021FB4E2-E97B-4B7F-8A81-EF40B504D08C@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <20081123024440.9B72618763E@autox.team.net>

Thank you,
Sounds like a real chore. I was afraid of that.
I'll have to build up courage.
Maybe I will just stay with my electric vest for now. 

Larry Gardini

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of wendell bain
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 12:11 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] TR6 heater

Hello Larry,
Not sure if they moved the heater on the TR-6, but my TR-4's had it  
contained
in an assembly pretty much behind the four smaller instruments in the  
center of
the dash. (oil press., ammeter, etc.) over the transmission tunnel.  
It's held in by
three bolts and you'll need to drain the cooling system and remove  
the heater
hoses, and duct hoses to the defrosters. Also the electrical wires to  
the fan
switch, the cables to defroster and heater valve. after the center  
dash support.
The heater assy. is in a metal box with the fan on top. It's kind of  
a pain to get
at, as are most heater core assemblies.
Once out of the car, you will need to take the metal box apart to get  
at the fan.
Fortunately the fan is on top.
It's probably the fan bearing making the squirrel noises. I had one  
that was
pretty much a soprano in it's screech!!! I don't know what is  
available for these
now. Check with Moss Motors.
Hope this helps.

Wendell

On Nov 22, 2008, at 10:28 AM, <lgardini at sbcglobal.net>  
<lgardini at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Can some one tell me where I need to start to access the blower motor?
>
> Sounds like a squirrel in there.
>
> I thought I might be nice to have a heater for the winter.
>
>
>
> Larry Gardini
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
_______________________________________________
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From gtwincams at pacbell.net  Sun Nov 23 09:06:01 2008
From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 08:06:01 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Sheryl and Dennis - gearbox!
Message-ID: <49297F69.9050408@pacbell.net>

Hey Sheryl and Dennis - Craigslist has an MGB OD gearbox listed.
Cheers,
Greg

From home at drummondlaw.com  Sun Nov 23 09:58:23 2008
From: home at drummondlaw.com (Dan)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 08:58:23 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff
In-Reply-To: <49297F69.9050408@pacbell.net>
References: <49297F69.9050408@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <ACE8C24AA49549AB888951C99402CE46@dandebbie>

Hi all,

I know this group is mostly about cute British sports cars, but my
battleship Jaguar Series III XJ6 flies the Union Jack, too.  Actually, I'm
jealous of all those MGs, Triumphs and Lotus' out there and hope to count
one in my collection some day soon.

Anyway, HMS Grandpa (as we refer to it) needs new rear brakes (the drivers
side caliper is leaking fluid all over everything).  For those unfamiliar
with Jaguar engineering, these brakes aren't located right behind the road
wheels were access would be, well, accessible.  Nooo, these are inboard
mounted brakes located on either side of the differential thus ensuring
several busted knuckles and lots of swearing getting at 'em.  While perhaps
technically accessible without removal of the entire rear suspension
assembly, the generally recommended procedure calls for just such a removal.
So, out came the rear end yesterday and now I'm waiting on the new calipers,
rotors and other assorted parts to arrive before proceeding.  If anyone one
wants pics of a bottomless Jag, shoot me an email and I'll send you the
pin-ups.

Dan Drummond
1998 XK8
1986 XJ6

From wbain at sonic.net  Sun Nov 23 11:29:00 2008
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:29:00 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] TR6 heater
In-Reply-To: <20081123024440.9B72618763E@autox.team.net>
References: <20081123024440.9B72618763E@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <A440C0E8-FD91-4DE3-8ECD-AD3946B6C635@sonic.net>

It is kind of involved, but not as bad as it probably sounds. Most  
all of
it is pretty accessible, at least on TR-4's.
Good luck.

Cheers,

Wendell Bain

On Nov 22, 2008, at 6:44 PM, LGardini wrote:

> Thank you,
> Sounds like a real chore. I was afraid of that.
> I'll have to build up courage.
> Maybe I will just stay with my electric vest for now.
>
> Larry Gardini
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc- 
> bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of wendell bain
> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 12:11 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] TR6 heater
>
> Hello Larry,
> Not sure if they moved the heater on the TR-6, but my TR-4's had it
> contained
> in an assembly pretty much behind the four smaller instruments in the
> center of
> the dash. (oil press., ammeter, etc.) over the transmission tunnel.
> It's held in by
> three bolts and you'll need to drain the cooling system and remove
> the heater
> hoses, and duct hoses to the defrosters. Also the electrical wires to
> the fan
> switch, the cables to defroster and heater valve. after the center
> dash support.
> The heater assy. is in a metal box with the fan on top. It's kind of
> a pain to get
> at, as are most heater core assemblies.
> Once out of the car, you will need to take the metal box apart to get
> at the fan.
> Fortunately the fan is on top.
> It's probably the fan bearing making the squirrel noises. I had one
> that was
> pretty much a soprano in it's screech!!! I don't know what is
> available for these
> now. Check with Moss Motors.
> Hope this helps.
>
> Wendell
>
> On Nov 22, 2008, at 10:28 AM, <lgardini at sbcglobal.net>
> <lgardini at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Can some one tell me where I need to start to access the blower  
>> motor?
>>
>> Sounds like a squirrel in there.
>>
>> I thought I might be nice to have a heater for the winter.
>>
>>
>>
>> Larry Gardini
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
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> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Sun Nov 23 12:51:07 2008
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:51:07 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff
In-Reply-To: <ACE8C24AA49549AB888951C99402CE46@dandebbie>
Message-ID: <20081123195109.E9D0A187869@autox.team.net>

Dan, I take my hat off to you.  I had an XJS with the same inboard rear
brakes.  A great idea until you need to service them. I never did it on
mine. Take a look at the axle seals while you have the rear end out,
sometimes they leak and you have no rear brakes.  I always had great luck
with Coventry West in Georgia for all my Jag parts.  I'm on my third Jag now
an XJ8 and love it.  You might think about trading up.  Good Luck.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 8:58 AM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff

Hi all,

I know this group is mostly about cute British sports cars, but my
battleship Jaguar Series III XJ6 flies the Union Jack, too.  Actually, I'm
jealous of all those MGs, Triumphs and Lotus' out there and hope to count
one in my collection some day soon.

Anyway, HMS Grandpa (as we refer to it) needs new rear brakes (the drivers
side caliper is leaking fluid all over everything).  For those unfamiliar
with Jaguar engineering, these brakes aren't located right behind the road
wheels were access would be, well, accessible.  Nooo, these are inboard
mounted brakes located on either side of the differential thus ensuring
several busted knuckles and lots of swearing getting at 'em.  While perhaps
technically accessible without removal of the entire rear suspension
assembly, the generally recommended procedure calls for just such a removal.
So, out came the rear end yesterday and now I'm waiting on the new calipers,
rotors and other assorted parts to arrive before proceeding.  If anyone one
wants pics of a bottomless Jag, shoot me an email and I'll send you the
pin-ups.

Dan Drummond
1998 XK8
1986 XJ6
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From joemulqueen at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 23 19:23:15 2008
From: joemulqueen at yahoo.com (joe mulqueen)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:23:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff
In-Reply-To: <ACE8C24AA49549AB888951C99402CE46@dandebbie>
Message-ID: <94836.35938.qm@web82205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Good work Dan.  I pulled my IRS 8 yrs ago but took it to a guy for overhaul.  By the way, do you know an easy to understand way to set the rear hub bearings?  Mine are loose but since it's only been 100K miles I'm *hoping* I can just snug them up.  I already opened up both sides for inspection but I don't see any foul play going on.
Regards,
Joe M
'82 XJ6 SIII
'56 MGA 1500
'60 AH 3000 BT7 project


--- On Sun, 11/23/08, Dan <home at drummondlaw.com> wrote:

> From: Dan <home at drummondlaw.com>
> Subject: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff
> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 8:58 AM
> Hi all,
> 
> I know this group is mostly about cute British sports cars,
> but my
> battleship Jaguar Series III XJ6 flies the Union Jack, too..........

From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Sun Nov 23 19:45:31 2008
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:45:31 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Sheryl and Dennis - gearbox!
In-Reply-To: <49297F69.9050408@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <20081124024532.CA093187665@autox.team.net>

Sheryl and Dennis, this is an early O/D gearbox for the earlier year MGBs.
It's the same one that I have in my early 67 MGB.  It has the 3 synchro box
and not the 4 syncro that you have.  I would advise against buying it.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of gtwincams
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 8:06 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [Nobbc] Sheryl and Dennis - gearbox!

Hey Sheryl and Dennis - Craigslist has an MGB OD gearbox listed.
Cheers,
Greg
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From gtwincams at pacbell.net  Sun Nov 23 20:19:10 2008
From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:19:10 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Sheryl and Dennis - gearbox!
In-Reply-To: <20081124024532.CA093187665@autox.team.net>
References: <20081124024532.CA093187665@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <492A1D2E.2030902@pacbell.net>

Good catch, Andy - sorry Sheryl and Dennis.
Greg

andy preston wrote:
> Sheryl and Dennis, this is an early O/D gearbox for the earlier year MGBs.
> It's the same one that I have in my early 67 MGB.  It has the 3 synchro box
> and not the 4 syncro that you have.  I would advise against buying it.
>
> Andy

From sonomashoe at gmail.com  Mon Nov 24 10:50:46 2008
From: sonomashoe at gmail.com (William Shoemaker)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:50:46 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff
In-Reply-To: <ACE8C24AA49549AB888951C99402CE46@dandebbie>
References: <49297F69.9050408@pacbell.net>
	<ACE8C24AA49549AB888951C99402CE46@dandebbie>
Message-ID: <492AE976.8090002@gmail.com>

Morning Dan,

I'm also a fan of the XJ6 with it's in line big 4 liter 6..great touring 
cars without being too big. I, however,
try to stick to '90 to '93 which have lost the lucas electric woes and 
are more reliable and a bit easier
to work on. I just did a brake job on my '90 and the brakes are in the 
normal wheel location and
were a piece of cake.  If you have time, I would like to look at your 
pix. Thanks!

Bill Shoemaker
'90 & '92 XJ6's
Dan wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I know this group is mostly about cute British sports cars, but my
> battleship Jaguar Series III XJ6 flies the Union Jack, too.  Actually, I'm
> jealous of all those MGs, Triumphs and Lotus' out there and hope to count
> one in my collection some day soon.
>
> Anyway, HMS Grandpa (as we refer to it) needs new rear brakes (the drivers
> side caliper is leaking fluid all over everything).  For those unfamiliar
> with Jaguar engineering, these brakes aren't located right behind the road
> wheels were access would be, well, accessible.  Nooo, these are inboard
> mounted brakes located on either side of the differential thus ensuring
> several busted knuckles and lots of swearing getting at 'em.  While perhaps
> technically accessible without removal of the entire rear suspension
> assembly, the generally recommended procedure calls for just such a removal.
> So, out came the rear end yesterday and now I'm waiting on the new calipers,
> rotors and other assorted parts to arrive before proceeding.  If anyone one
> wants pics of a bottomless Jag, shoot me an email and I'll send you the
> pin-ups.
>
> Dan Drummond
> 1998 XK8
> 1986 XJ6
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From techyes at pacbell.net  Mon Nov 24 15:03:42 2008
From: techyes at pacbell.net (Sheryl)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:03:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Nobbc] Sheryl and Dennis - gearbox!
Message-ID: <467094.18916.qm@web83606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Thanks for sending us the email! I did respond and he said he lives near Lake Tahoe and someone had already given him a deposit. So we are still looking. 

I appreciate your assistance :-)
Sheryl & Dennis

1976 MGB x 2




________________________________
From: gtwincams <gtwincams at pacbell.net>
To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 7:19:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Sheryl and Dennis - gearbox!

Good catch, Andy - sorry Sheryl and Dennis.
Greg

andy preston wrote:
> Sheryl and Dennis, this is an early O/D gearbox for the earlier year MGBs.
> It's the same one that I have in my early 67 MGB.  It has the 3 synchro box
> and not the 4 syncro that you have.  I would advise against buying it.
>
> Andy
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From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Mon Nov 24 19:41:38 2008
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:41:38 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff
In-Reply-To: <492AE976.8090002@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081125024141.1E01618765C@autox.team.net>

Bill and Dan, I had a 90 XJ6 and loved it.  I was hoping to get to 200,000
miles and unfortunately the rear end started making horrible grinding noises
with just 8,000 miles to go.  The cost of a rebuilt rear end was twice the
value of the car.  I traded it in with British European Motors for a Land
Rover, and Mark is going to fix my old car up and use it for a courtesy
vehicle so it will live on.  BTW love the Land Rover, and glad that gas
prices have fallen.

Andy
67 MGB
74 MGB GT
60 MGA Coupe 90% restored.


-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of William Shoemaker
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:51 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff

Morning Dan,

I'm also a fan of the XJ6 with it's in line big 4 liter 6..great touring 
cars without being too big. I, however,
try to stick to '90 to '93 which have lost the lucas electric woes and 
are more reliable and a bit easier
to work on. I just did a brake job on my '90 and the brakes are in the 
normal wheel location and
were a piece of cake.  If you have time, I would like to look at your 
pix. Thanks!

Bill Shoemaker
'90 & '92 XJ6's
Dan wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I know this group is mostly about cute British sports cars, but my
> battleship Jaguar Series III XJ6 flies the Union Jack, too.  Actually, I'm
> jealous of all those MGs, Triumphs and Lotus' out there and hope to count
> one in my collection some day soon.
>
> Anyway, HMS Grandpa (as we refer to it) needs new rear brakes (the drivers
> side caliper is leaking fluid all over everything).  For those unfamiliar
> with Jaguar engineering, these brakes aren't located right behind the road
> wheels were access would be, well, accessible.  Nooo, these are inboard
> mounted brakes located on either side of the differential thus ensuring
> several busted knuckles and lots of swearing getting at 'em.  While
perhaps
> technically accessible without removal of the entire rear suspension
> assembly, the generally recommended procedure calls for just such a
removal.
> So, out came the rear end yesterday and now I'm waiting on the new
calipers,
> rotors and other assorted parts to arrive before proceeding.  If anyone
one
> wants pics of a bottomless Jag, shoot me an email and I'll send you the
> pin-ups.
>
> Dan Drummond
> 1998 XK8
> 1986 XJ6
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Mon Nov 24 20:05:53 2008
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:05:53 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff
In-Reply-To: <20081125024141.1E01618765C@autox.team.net>
References: <20081125024141.1E01618765C@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <492B6B91.4030500@sonic.net>

Andy! You missed the last ride but might be interested to know that we 
had a Land Rover owned by Gerry and Lily come along with us. Hopefully, 
they will join us again on a ride so you might consider driving the LR 
on one of our winter rides. I'm still anxious to see your MGA coupe 
sometime soon, is it on the road yet?

Ron
58 MGA

andy preston wrote:

> Bill and Dan, I had a 90 XJ6 and loved it.  I was hoping to get to 200,000
> miles and unfortunately the rear end started making horrible grinding noises
> with just 8,000 miles to go.  The cost of a rebuilt rear end was twice the
> value of the car.  I traded it in with British European Motors for a Land
> Rover, and Mark is going to fix my old car up and use it for a courtesy
> vehicle so it will live on.  BTW love the Land Rover, and glad that gas
> prices have fallen.
> 
> Andy
> 67 MGB
> 74 MGB GT
> 60 MGA Coupe 90% restored.

From mewgull at sonic.net  Mon Nov 24 20:57:13 2008
From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:57:13 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff
In-Reply-To: <492B6B91.4030500@sonic.net>
References: <20081125024141.1E01618765C@autox.team.net>
	<492B6B91.4030500@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <381277E7-19CF-4803-B13B-2213ECFC28CD@sonic.net>

Aha... would that be Andy from Terra Linda?   Poppy Red 88" right?  We
met a decade or two ago I think.

Gerry


On Nov 24, 2008, at 7:05 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote:

> Andy! You missed the last ride but might be interested to know that
> we had a Land Rover owned by Gerry and Lily come along with us.
> Hopefully, they will join us again on a ride so you might consider
> driving the LR on one of our winter rides. I'm still anxious to see
> your MGA coupe sometime soon, is it on the road yet?
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> andy preston wrote:
>
>> Bill and Dan, I had a 90 XJ6 and loved it.  I was hoping to get to
>> 200,000
>> miles and unfortunately the rear end started making horrible
>> grinding noises
>> with just 8,000 miles to go.  The cost of a rebuilt rear end was
>> twice the
>> value of the car.  I traded it in with British European Motors for
>> a Land
>> Rover, and Mark is going to fix my old car up and use it for a
>> courtesy
>> vehicle so it will live on.  BTW love the Land Rover, and glad that
>> gas
>> prices have fallen.
>> Andy
>> 67 MGB
>> 74 MGB GT
>> 60 MGA Coupe 90% restored.
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From desmo93 at att.net  Mon Nov 24 21:22:55 2008
From: desmo93 at att.net (marcus)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:22:55 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Repair Shop
Message-ID: <E75CE834FC5248E1A7E86B83970AFB87@marcuse8622318>

Hello,

New to the list, so here goes my first question.  I bought a '76 TR6 a month
or so ago and am in the process of cleaning up various messes that multiple
years of storage have caused.  I am trying to do as much work on my own, but
am going to need the assistance of a good repair facility for some of the
things that need to get done.  With that in mind, can anyone recommend a
repair facility in either Sonoma or Marin?  I am located in Petaluma.

Thank you.

Marcus

From drmartyrayman at gmail.com  Mon Nov 24 21:28:56 2008
From: drmartyrayman at gmail.com (Martin Rayman)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:28:56 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Repair Shop
In-Reply-To: <E75CE834FC5248E1A7E86B83970AFB87@marcuse8622318>
References: <E75CE834FC5248E1A7E86B83970AFB87@marcuse8622318>
Message-ID: <3924ed760811242028w7485541fr394f4d5cdb57b434@mail.gmail.com>

Clint Wright of Wright's British Car Repair in Central San Rafael.
http://www.britishcarrepair.com/
Marty Rayman
'53 MG TD

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:22 PM, marcus <desmo93 at att.net> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> New to the list, so here goes my first question.  I bought a '76 TR6 a
> month
> or so ago and am in the process of cleaning up various messes that multiple
> years of storage have caused.  I am trying to do as much work on my own,
> but
> am going to need the assistance of a good repair facility for some of the
> things that need to get done.  With that in mind, can anyone recommend a
> repair facility in either Sonoma or Marin?  I am located in Petaluma.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Marcus
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From tonykorman at sbcglobal.net  Mon Nov 24 21:35:53 2008
From: tonykorman at sbcglobal.net (tonykorman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:35:53 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] Repair Shop
Message-ID: <mailman.2.1227587791.3539.nobbc@autox.team.net>

I have taken my 76 TR6  to Ron Larson 837 9816  in Windsor. What do you need to have done?
Tony
------Original Message------
From: marcus
Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club
Sent: Nov 24, 2008 8:22 PM
Subject: [Nobbc] Repair Shop

Hello,

New to the list, so here goes my first question.  I bought a '76 TR6 a month
or so ago and am in the process of cleaning up various messes that multiple
years of storage have caused.  I am trying to do as much work on my own, but
am going to need the assistance of a good repair facility for some of the
things that need to get done.  With that in mind, can anyone recommend a
repair facility in either Sonoma or Marin?  I am located in Petaluma.

Thank you.

Marcus
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From desmo93 at att.net  Mon Nov 24 21:45:02 2008
From: desmo93 at att.net (marcus)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:45:02 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Repair Shop
References: <20081125043630.DFE00187676@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <1AC4C257584C469E876A5A73FBAADCD6@marcuse8622318>

Tony,

Need to get the diif rebuilt and would like to have the front and rear diff 
mounts strengthened to avoid the clunking rear syndrome.

Marcus
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <tonykorman at sbcglobal.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Repair Shop


>I have taken my 76 TR6  to Ron Larson 837 9816  in Windsor. What do you 
>need to have done?
> Tony
> ------Original Message------
> From: marcus
> Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club
> Sent: Nov 24, 2008 8:22 PM
> Subject: [Nobbc] Repair Shop
>
> Hello,
>
> New to the list, so here goes my first question.  I bought a '76 TR6 a 
> month
> or so ago and am in the process of cleaning up various messes that 
> multiple
> years of storage have caused.  I am trying to do as much work on my own, 
> but
> am going to need the assistance of a good repair facility for some of the
> things that need to get done.  With that in mind, can anyone recommend a
> repair facility in either Sonoma or Marin?  I am located in Petaluma.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Marcus
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From splath at comcast.net  Mon Nov 24 22:49:59 2008
From: splath at comcast.net (Steve Plath)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:49:59 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Repair Shop
References: <E75CE834FC5248E1A7E86B83970AFB87@marcuse8622318>
Message-ID: <005301c94ec1$a76db7d0$6301a8c0@dell8300>

Marcus,

I too like to putter around with my cars and I take my cars to William Shaw 
at Corte Madera British and European to fix all my screw-up's.  He's very 
fair and works with me on what I want to do and let's me know what I 
shouldn't do.

Steve Plath

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "marcus" <desmo93 at att.net>
To: <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:22 PM
Subject: [Nobbc] Repair Shop


> Hello,
>
> New to the list, so here goes my first question.  I bought a '76 TR6 a 
> month
> or so ago and am in the process of cleaning up various messes that 
> multiple
> years of storage have caused.  I am trying to do as much work on my own, 
> but
> am going to need the assistance of a good repair facility for some of the
> things that need to get done.  With that in mind, can anyone recommend a
> repair facility in either Sonoma or Marin?  I am located in Petaluma.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Marcus
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From openbigdds at aol.com  Tue Nov 25 07:43:24 2008
From: openbigdds at aol.com (openbigdds at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:43:24 -0500
Subject: [Nobbc] Repair Shop
In-Reply-To: <005301c94ec1$a76db7d0$6301a8c0@dell8300>
References: <E75CE834FC5248E1A7E86B83970AFB87@marcuse8622318>
	<005301c94ec1$a76db7d0$6301a8c0@dell8300>
Message-ID: <8CB1D234E1EC42E-123C-8BF@webmail-dx19.sysops.aol.com>

i would avoid that shop likethe plague.
marty rayman


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Plath <splath at comcast.net>
To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 9:49 pm
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Repair Shop


Marcus,?
?
I too like to putter around with my cars and I take my cars to William Shaw at Corte Madera British and European to fix all my screw-up's. He's very fair and works with me on what I want to do and let's me know what I shouldn't do.?
?
Steve Plath?
?
----- Original Message ----- From: "marcus" <desmo93 at att.net>?
To: <nobbc at autox.team.net>?
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:22 PM?
Subject: [Nobbc] Repair Shop?
?
> Hello,?
>?
> New to the list, so here goes my first question. I bought a '76 TR6 a > month?
> or so ago and am in the process of cleaning up various messes that > multiple?
> years of storage have caused. I am trying to do as much work on my own, > but?
> am going to need the assistance of a good repair facility for some of the?
> things that need to get done. With that in mind, can anyone recommend a?
> repair facility in either Sonoma or Marin? I am located in Petaluma.?
>?
> Thank you.?
>?
> Marcus?
> _______________________________________________?
> Nobbc mailing list?
> Nobbc at autox.team.net?
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc?
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From DPaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us  Tue Nov 25 09:17:32 2008
From: DPaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us (Paige, Dean)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:17:32 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Repair Shop
In-Reply-To: <1AC4C257584C469E876A5A73FBAADCD6@marcuse8622318>
Message-ID: <38EB329C843ED444A8CF05627CC4BFA601666215@mail2.sr.local>

Don't go to a repair shop (British or not) for your differential! The
Rear End Shop 54 Maxwell CT, Santa Rosa does TRs and they do a great
job. I had my 73 TR diff repaired there after a catastrophic failure
after 300,000 miles.  8 years later... no problems. Very reasonable
price. In the range of 250 to 300 $ with parts. Phone is 526-0200. It
helps $$ wise considerably if you can remove the unit and deliver it to
the RES. These folks do nothing but and do it well. Highly recommended!
And getting the diff out isn't as bad as it might seem to be. Though, if
you need the mounts strengthened I would check with Moss motors for the
available repair kit. Order it then still go to RES for the work.

Deano
-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of marcus
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:45 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Repair Shop

Tony,

Need to get the diif rebuilt and would like to have the front and rear
diff mounts strengthened to avoid the clunking rear syndrome.

Marcus
----- Original Message -----
From: <tonykorman at sbcglobal.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Repair Shop


>I have taken my 76 TR6  to Ron Larson 837 9816  in Windsor. What do you

>need to have done?
> Tony
> ------Original Message------
> From: marcus
> Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club
> Sent: Nov 24, 2008 8:22 PM
> Subject: [Nobbc] Repair Shop
>
> Hello,
>
> New to the list, so here goes my first question.  I bought a '76 TR6 a

> month
> or so ago and am in the process of cleaning up various messes that
> multiple
> years of storage have caused.  I am trying to do as much work on my
own,
> but
> am going to need the assistance of a good repair facility for some of
the
> things that need to get done.  With that in mind, can anyone recommend
a
> repair facility in either Sonoma or Marin?  I am located in Petaluma.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Marcus
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From home at drummondlaw.com  Tue Nov 25 09:35:45 2008
From: home at drummondlaw.com (Dan)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:35:45 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff
In-Reply-To: <94836.35938.qm@web82205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <ACE8C24AA49549AB888951C99402CE46@dandebbie>
	<94836.35938.qm@web82205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9829F5EC22994FFC8908FC9EF9643408@dandebbie>

Joe,

Sorry, I don't have an easy answer for you about the rear bearings.  I
haven't done that, but am told there are lots of tolerances to be checked.
A buddy of mine who's guidding me through the process recommends sending the
hubs to Coventry West and have them install new bearings.  Not what you
wanted to hear, I'm sure, but it's the best I've got.

To tell the truth, I'm pretty new at this mechanic stuff and got this car a
couple years ago to learn on.  I rebuilt the front suspension two years ago,
including all new brake components.  Took the tranny out last year (although
I had a transmission shop in Santa Rosa do the actual rebuild).  And this
year's project is the rear end.  Seems like I get into one big project a
year on the HMS Grandpa.  Along the way I've also replaced the A/C
compressor, water pump, and other miscellaneous items.  It's all proved to
be a lot of fun and quite satisfying.  I recommend to any newbie mechanics
out there to give it a try.  Get yourself an old (and relatively
inexpensive) car that you can leave up on the jacks for weeks at a time as
you take your time working through the issues.  Nothing worse than starting
a big job Saturday morning on a car you need Monday to get to work.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of joe mulqueen
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 6:23 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff

Good work Dan.  I pulled my IRS 8 yrs ago but took it to a guy for overhaul.
By the way, do you know an easy to understand way to set the rear hub
bearings?  Mine are loose but since it's only been 100K miles I'm *hoping* I
can just snug them up.  I already opened up both sides for inspection but I
don't see any foul play going on.
Regards,
Joe M
'82 XJ6 SIII
'56 MGA 1500
'60 AH 3000 BT7 project


--- On Sun, 11/23/08, Dan <home at drummondlaw.com> wrote:

> From: Dan <home at drummondlaw.com>
> Subject: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff
> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 8:58 AM
> Hi all,
> 
> I know this group is mostly about cute British sports cars,
> but my
> battleship Jaguar Series III XJ6 flies the Union Jack, too..........
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From ppanther at ix.netcom.com  Tue Nov 25 09:49:22 2008
From: ppanther at ix.netcom.com (ppanther)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:49:22 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Repair Shop
In-Reply-To: <38EB329C843ED444A8CF05627CC4BFA601666215@mail2.sr.local>
Message-ID: <MEBBJMEBIGLCEKNJLIDKOEIOCBAA.ppanther@ix.netcom.com>

I would second the Rear End Shop.
I just had them change the pinion seal on my Alger $100.
Done in one day.
My neighbor had them rebuild the rear end in his TR6.
He is the one that told me about them.

Larry Gardini

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Paige, Dean
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:18 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Repair Shop

Don't go to a repair shop (British or not) for your differential! The
Rear End Shop 54 Maxwell CT, Santa Rosa does TRs and they do a great
job. I had my 73 TR diff repaired there after a catastrophic failure
after 300,000 miles.  8 years later... no problems. Very reasonable
price. In the range of 250 to 300 $ with parts. Phone is 526-0200. It
helps $$ wise considerably if you can remove the unit and deliver it to
the RES. These folks do nothing but and do it well. Highly recommended!
And getting the diff out isn't as bad as it might seem to be. Though, if
you need the mounts strengthened I would check with Moss motors for the
available repair kit. Order it then still go to RES for the work.

Deano
-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of marcus
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:45 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Repair Shop

Tony,

Need to get the diif rebuilt and would like to have the front and rear
diff mounts strengthened to avoid the clunking rear syndrome.

Marcus
----- Original Message -----
From: <tonykorman at sbcglobal.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Repair Shop


>I have taken my 76 TR6  to Ron Larson 837 9816  in Windsor. What do you

>need to have done?
> Tony
> ------Original Message------
> From: marcus
> Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
> ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club
> Sent: Nov 24, 2008 8:22 PM
> Subject: [Nobbc] Repair Shop
>
> Hello,
>
> New to the list, so here goes my first question.  I bought a '76 TR6 a

> month
> or so ago and am in the process of cleaning up various messes that
> multiple
> years of storage have caused.  I am trying to do as much work on my
own,
> but
> am going to need the assistance of a good repair facility for some of
the
> things that need to get done.  With that in mind, can anyone recommend
a
> repair facility in either Sonoma or Marin?  I am located in Petaluma.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Marcus
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From home at drummondlaw.com  Tue Nov 25 10:15:14 2008
From: home at drummondlaw.com (Dan)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:15:14 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff
In-Reply-To: <20081125024141.1E01618765C@autox.team.net>
References: <492AE976.8090002@gmail.com>
	<20081125024141.1E01618765C@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <A58632E274FC4131B92485C51A6A262A@dandebbie>

Andy,

Mine has only about 150,000 on the clock (not bad for an '86) and I'm hoping
first for 200,000 and then 300,000.  Gotta think big.  Wish me luck.

I like Mark, Rob and the guys down at British European Motors, too.  They've
always been easy to work with and have been helpful with some of my DIY
projects.  On the other hand, I have them do pretty much everything on the
newer cars (I know my limits).  I'll look for your XJ40 next time I'm down
there.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of andy preston
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 6:42 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff

Bill and Dan, I had a 90 XJ6 and loved it.  I was hoping to get to 200,000
miles and unfortunately the rear end started making horrible grinding noises
with just 8,000 miles to go.  The cost of a rebuilt rear end was twice the
value of the car.  I traded it in with British European Motors for a Land
Rover, and Mark is going to fix my old car up and use it for a courtesy
vehicle so it will live on.  BTW love the Land Rover, and glad that gas
prices have fallen.

Andy
67 MGB
74 MGB GT
60 MGA Coupe 90% restored.


-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of William Shoemaker
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:51 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff

Morning Dan,

I'm also a fan of the XJ6 with it's in line big 4 liter 6..great touring 
cars without being too big. I, however,
try to stick to '90 to '93 which have lost the lucas electric woes and 
are more reliable and a bit easier
to work on. I just did a brake job on my '90 and the brakes are in the 
normal wheel location and
were a piece of cake.  If you have time, I would like to look at your 
pix. Thanks!

Bill Shoemaker
'90 & '92 XJ6's
Dan wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I know this group is mostly about cute British sports cars, but my
> battleship Jaguar Series III XJ6 flies the Union Jack, too.  Actually, I'm
> jealous of all those MGs, Triumphs and Lotus' out there and hope to count
> one in my collection some day soon.
>
> Anyway, HMS Grandpa (as we refer to it) needs new rear brakes (the drivers
> side caliper is leaking fluid all over everything).  For those unfamiliar
> with Jaguar engineering, these brakes aren't located right behind the road
> wheels were access would be, well, accessible.  Nooo, these are inboard
> mounted brakes located on either side of the differential thus ensuring
> several busted knuckles and lots of swearing getting at 'em.  While
perhaps
> technically accessible without removal of the entire rear suspension
> assembly, the generally recommended procedure calls for just such a
removal.
> So, out came the rear end yesterday and now I'm waiting on the new
calipers,
> rotors and other assorted parts to arrive before proceeding.  If anyone
one
> wants pics of a bottomless Jag, shoot me an email and I'll send you the
> pin-ups.
>
> Dan Drummond
> 1998 XK8
> 1986 XJ6
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From sonomashoe at gmail.com  Tue Nov 25 11:46:11 2008
From: sonomashoe at gmail.com (William Shoemaker)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:46:11 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Repair Shop
In-Reply-To: <38EB329C843ED444A8CF05627CC4BFA601666215@mail2.sr.local>
References: <38EB329C843ED444A8CF05627CC4BFA601666215@mail2.sr.local>
Message-ID: <492C47F3.7070807@gmail.com>

I'll second the vote for The Rear End Shop..A few years back I had the 
differential on my '88
BMW 735 IL rebuilt by them. They did a great job for about half the 
price of a rear end out
of a wreck ( my other option).

Bill Shoemaker
'90 & '92 Jag XJ6's
Paige, Dean wrote:
> Don't go to a repair shop (British or not) for your differential! The
> Rear End Shop 54 Maxwell CT, Santa Rosa does TRs and they do a great
> job. I had my 73 TR diff repaired there after a catastrophic failure
> after 300,000 miles.  8 years later... no problems. Very reasonable
> price. In the range of 250 to 300 $ with parts. Phone is 526-0200. It
> helps $$ wise considerably if you can remove the unit and deliver it to
> the RES. These folks do nothing but and do it well. Highly recommended!
> And getting the diff out isn't as bad as it might seem to be. Though, if
> you need the mounts strengthened I would check with Moss motors for the
> available repair kit. Order it then still go to RES for the work.
>
> Deano
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of marcus
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:45 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Repair Shop
>
> Tony,
>
> Need to get the diif rebuilt and would like to have the front and rear
> diff mounts strengthened to avoid the clunking rear syndrome.
>
> Marcus
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <tonykorman at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Repair Shop
>
>
>   
>> I have taken my 76 TR6  to Ron Larson 837 9816  in Windsor. What do you
>>     
>
>   
>> need to have done?
>> Tony
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: marcus
>> Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
>> To: nobbc at autox.team.net
>> ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club
>> Sent: Nov 24, 2008 8:22 PM
>> Subject: [Nobbc] Repair Shop
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> New to the list, so here goes my first question.  I bought a '76 TR6 a
>>     
>
>   
>> month
>> or so ago and am in the process of cleaning up various messes that
>> multiple
>> years of storage have caused.  I am trying to do as much work on my
>>     
> own,
>   
>> but
>> am going to need the assistance of a good repair facility for some of
>>     
> the
>   
>> things that need to get done.  With that in mind, can anyone recommend
>>     
> a
>   
>> repair facility in either Sonoma or Marin?  I am located in Petaluma.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Marcus
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>>
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From sonomashoe at gmail.com  Tue Nov 25 12:01:40 2008
From: sonomashoe at gmail.com (William Shoemaker)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:01:40 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff
In-Reply-To: <A58632E274FC4131B92485C51A6A262A@dandebbie>
References: <492AE976.8090002@gmail.com>
	<20081125024141.1E01618765C@autox.team.net>
	<A58632E274FC4131B92485C51A6A262A@dandebbie>
Message-ID: <492C4B94.9090006@gmail.com>

Andy...You give me hope as well. My '90 XJ6 has 106,000 on it and my '92 
XJ6 has 117,000. So far
they both run like tops. I had a '91 XJ6 before them that I retired when 
it developed an electronic
problem deep inside the tranny(stuck in limp home mode) at about 
138,000. It is cheaper to just find
a different Jag in better shape than to do major repairs on these.

Bill
> Mine has only about 150,000 on the clock (not bad for an '86) and I'm hoping
> first for 200,000 and then 300,000.  Gotta think big.  Wish me luck.
>
> I like Mark, Rob and the guys down at British European Motors, too.  They've
> always been easy to work with and have been helpful with some of my DIY
> projects.  On the other hand, I have them do pretty much everything on the
> newer cars (I know my limits).  I'll look for your XJ40 next time I'm down
> there.
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of andy preston
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 6:42 PM
> To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff
>
> Bill and Dan, I had a 90 XJ6 and loved it.  I was hoping to get to 200,000
> miles and unfortunately the rear end started making horrible grinding noises
> with just 8,000 miles to go.  The cost of a rebuilt rear end was twice the
> value of the car.  I traded it in with British European Motors for a Land
> Rover, and Mark is going to fix my old car up and use it for a courtesy
> vehicle so it will live on.  BTW love the Land Rover, and glad that gas
> prices have fallen.
>
> Andy
> 67 MGB
> 74 MGB GT
> 60 MGA Coupe 90% restored.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of William Shoemaker
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:51 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff
>
> Morning Dan,
>
> I'm also a fan of the XJ6 with it's in line big 4 liter 6..great touring 
> cars without being too big. I, however,
> try to stick to '90 to '93 which have lost the lucas electric woes and 
> are more reliable and a bit easier
> to work on. I just did a brake job on my '90 and the brakes are in the 
> normal wheel location and
> were a piece of cake.  If you have time, I would like to look at your 
> pix. Thanks!
>
> Bill Shoemaker
> '90 & '92 XJ6's
> Dan wrote:
>   
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I know this group is mostly about cute British sports cars, but my
>> battleship Jaguar Series III XJ6 flies the Union Jack, too.  Actually, I'm
>> jealous of all those MGs, Triumphs and Lotus' out there and hope to count
>> one in my collection some day soon.
>>
>> Anyway, HMS Grandpa (as we refer to it) needs new rear brakes (the drivers
>> side caliper is leaking fluid all over everything).  For those unfamiliar
>> with Jaguar engineering, these brakes aren't located right behind the road
>> wheels were access would be, well, accessible.  Nooo, these are inboard
>> mounted brakes located on either side of the differential thus ensuring
>> several busted knuckles and lots of swearing getting at 'em.  While
>>     
> perhaps
>   
>> technically accessible without removal of the entire rear suspension
>> assembly, the generally recommended procedure calls for just such a
>>     
> removal.
>   
>> So, out came the rear end yesterday and now I'm waiting on the new
>>     
> calipers,
>   
>> rotors and other assorted parts to arrive before proceeding.  If anyone
>>     
> one
>   
>> wants pics of a bottomless Jag, shoot me an email and I'll send you the
>> pin-ups.
>>
>> Dan Drummond
>> 1998 XK8
>> 1986 XJ6
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From bluesson at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 25 12:20:26 2008
From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:20:26 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Repair Shop
In-Reply-To: <492C47F3.7070807@gmail.com>
References: <38EB329C843ED444A8CF05627CC4BFA601666215@mail2.sr.local>
	<492C47F3.7070807@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU123-W17DA2D9533B76245B5344ED00B0@phx.gbl>

 Old school hot rodders swear by those guys, too. > Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008
10:46:11 -0800> From: sonomashoe at gmail.com> To: nobbc at autox.team.net> Subject:
Re: [Nobbc] Repair Shop> > I'll second the vote for The Rear End Shop..A few
years back I had the > differential on my '88> BMW 735 IL rebuilt by them.
They did a great job for about half the > price of a rear end out> of a wreck
( my other option).> > Bill Shoemaker> '90 & '92 Jag XJ6's> Paige, Dean
wrote:> > Don't go to a repair shop (British or not) for your differential!
The> > Rear End Shop 54 Maxwell CT, Santa Rosa does TRs and they do a great> >
job. I had my 73 TR diff repaired there after a catastrophic failure> > after
300,000 miles. 8 years later... no problems. Very reasonable> > price. In the
range of 250 to 300 $ with parts. Phone is 526-0200. It> > helps $$ wise
considerably if you can remove the unit and deliver it to> > the RES. These
folks do nothing but and do it well. Highly recommended!> > And getting the
diff out isn't as bad as it might seem to be. Though, if> > you need the
mounts strengthened I would check with Moss motors for the> > available repair
kit. Order it then still go to RES for the work.> >> > Deano> > -----Original
Message-----> > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]> > On Behalf Of marcus> > Sent: Monday,
November 24, 2008 8:45 PM> > To: North Bay British Car Club> > Subject: Re:
[Nobbc] Repair Shop> >> > Tony,> >> > Need to get the diif rebuilt and would
like to have the front and rear> > diff mounts strengthened to avoid the
clunking rear syndrome.> >> > Marcus> > ----- Original Message -----> > From:
<tonykorman at sbcglobal.net>> > To: "North Bay British Car Club"
<nobbc at autox.team.net>> > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:35 PM> > Subject:
Re: [Nobbc] Repair Shop> >> >> > > >> I have taken my 76 TR6 to Ron Larson 837
9816 in Windsor. What do you> >> > >> > > >> need to have done?> >> Tony> >>
------Original Message------> >> From: marcus> >> Sender:
nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net> >> To: nobbc at autox.team.net> >> ReplyTo: North
Bay British Car Club> >> Sent: Nov 24, 2008 8:22 PM> >> Subject: [Nobbc]
Repair Shop> >>> >> Hello,> >>> >> New to the list, so here goes my first
question. I bought a '76 TR6 a> >> > >> > > >> month> >> or so ago and am in
the process of cleaning up various messes that> >> multiple> >> years of
storage have caused. I am trying to do as much work on my> >> > > own,> > > >>
but> >> am going to need the assistance of a good repair facility for some of>
>> > > the> > > >> things that need to get done. With that in mind, can anyone
recommend> >> > > a> > > >> repair facility in either Sonoma or Marin? I am
located in Petaluma.> >>> >> Thank you.> >>> >> Marcus> >>
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From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov 25 19:27:44 2008
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:27:44 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff
In-Reply-To: <492C4B94.9090006@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081126022747.BBBF1187643@autox.team.net>

Bill, the only real problem I had with my 90 XJ6 was the head gasket that
failed at 100,000 which was fairly common on that model.  I did the work
myself which took several months and had the head welded and resurfaced at
Norm's Auto machine in Petaluma.  Norm does great work; I take all of my
machine work to him.  Always very reasonable.  I thought about taking the
rear end out myself but that seemed very daunting, my rear bearing were
completely shot.  I loved that car so hope that Mark fixes it up.  He has an
apprentice who is going to help do the work.  Your car should last well into
200,000 miles if well maintained.

Andy


-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of William Shoemaker
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:02 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff

Andy...You give me hope as well. My '90 XJ6 has 106,000 on it and my '92 
XJ6 has 117,000. So far
they both run like tops. I had a '91 XJ6 before them that I retired when 
it developed an electronic
problem deep inside the tranny(stuck in limp home mode) at about 
138,000. It is cheaper to just find
a different Jag in better shape than to do major repairs on these.

Bill
> Mine has only about 150,000 on the clock (not bad for an '86) and I'm
hoping
> first for 200,000 and then 300,000.  Gotta think big.  Wish me luck.
>
> I like Mark, Rob and the guys down at British European Motors, too.
They've
> always been easy to work with and have been helpful with some of my DIY
> projects.  On the other hand, I have them do pretty much everything on the
> newer cars (I know my limits).  I'll look for your XJ40 next time I'm down
> there.
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On
> Behalf Of andy preston
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 6:42 PM
> To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff
>
> Bill and Dan, I had a 90 XJ6 and loved it.  I was hoping to get to 200,000
> miles and unfortunately the rear end started making horrible grinding
noises
> with just 8,000 miles to go.  The cost of a rebuilt rear end was twice the
> value of the car.  I traded it in with British European Motors for a Land
> Rover, and Mark is going to fix my old car up and use it for a courtesy
> vehicle so it will live on.  BTW love the Land Rover, and glad that gas
> prices have fallen.
>
> Andy
> 67 MGB
> 74 MGB GT
> 60 MGA Coupe 90% restored.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On
> Behalf Of William Shoemaker
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:51 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff
>
> Morning Dan,
>
> I'm also a fan of the XJ6 with it's in line big 4 liter 6..great touring 
> cars without being too big. I, however,
> try to stick to '90 to '93 which have lost the lucas electric woes and 
> are more reliable and a bit easier
> to work on. I just did a brake job on my '90 and the brakes are in the 
> normal wheel location and
> were a piece of cake.  If you have time, I would like to look at your 
> pix. Thanks!
>
> Bill Shoemaker
> '90 & '92 XJ6's
> Dan wrote:
>   
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I know this group is mostly about cute British sports cars, but my
>> battleship Jaguar Series III XJ6 flies the Union Jack, too.  Actually,
I'm
>> jealous of all those MGs, Triumphs and Lotus' out there and hope to count
>> one in my collection some day soon.
>>
>> Anyway, HMS Grandpa (as we refer to it) needs new rear brakes (the
drivers
>> side caliper is leaking fluid all over everything).  For those unfamiliar
>> with Jaguar engineering, these brakes aren't located right behind the
road
>> wheels were access would be, well, accessible.  Nooo, these are inboard
>> mounted brakes located on either side of the differential thus ensuring
>> several busted knuckles and lots of swearing getting at 'em.  While
>>     
> perhaps
>   
>> technically accessible without removal of the entire rear suspension
>> assembly, the generally recommended procedure calls for just such a
>>     
> removal.
>   
>> So, out came the rear end yesterday and now I'm waiting on the new
>>     
> calipers,
>   
>> rotors and other assorted parts to arrive before proceeding.  If anyone
>>     
> one
>   
>> wants pics of a bottomless Jag, shoot me an email and I'll send you the
>> pin-ups.
>>
>> Dan Drummond
>> 1998 XK8
>> 1986 XJ6
>> _______________________________________________
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From sonomashoe at gmail.com  Tue Nov 25 19:47:02 2008
From: sonomashoe at gmail.com (William Shoemaker)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:47:02 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff
In-Reply-To: <20081126022747.BBBF1187643@autox.team.net>
References: <20081126022747.BBBF1187643@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <492CB8A6.7090007@gmail.com>

Thanks again Andy...Hope you're right about getting to 200,000. I love 
both my Jags and hope to
enjoy them for several more years..and it is true..you've got to stay on 
top of the maintenance  on
these to make them last. Any serious work on mine are done by John at 
Autocraft on Yolonda Ave
here in Santa Rosa ( 577- 0101 ) He only works on Jags and Mercedes.
Cheers,
XJ6 Bill

andy preston wrote:
> Bill, the only real problem I had with my 90 XJ6 was the head gasket that
> failed at 100,000 which was fairly common on that model.  I did the work
> myself which took several months and had the head welded and resurfaced at
> Norm's Auto machine in Petaluma.  Norm does great work; I take all of my
> machine work to him.  Always very reasonable.  I thought about taking the
> rear end out myself but that seemed very daunting, my rear bearing were
> completely shot.  I loved that car so hope that Mark fixes it up.  He has an
> apprentice who is going to help do the work.  Your car should last well into
> 200,000 miles if well maintained.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of William Shoemaker
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:02 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff
>
> Andy...You give me hope as well. My '90 XJ6 has 106,000 on it and my '92 
> XJ6 has 117,000. So far
> they both run like tops. I had a '91 XJ6 before them that I retired when 
> it developed an electronic
> problem deep inside the tranny(stuck in limp home mode) at about 
> 138,000. It is cheaper to just find
> a different Jag in better shape than to do major repairs on these.
>
> Bill
>   
>> Mine has only about 150,000 on the clock (not bad for an '86) and I'm
>>     
> hoping
>   
>> first for 200,000 and then 300,000.  Gotta think big.  Wish me luck.
>>
>> I like Mark, Rob and the guys down at British European Motors, too.
>>     
> They've
>   
>> always been easy to work with and have been helpful with some of my DIY
>> projects.  On the other hand, I have them do pretty much everything on the
>> newer cars (I know my limits).  I'll look for your XJ40 next time I'm down
>> there.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
>>     
> On
>   
>> Behalf Of andy preston
>> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 6:42 PM
>> To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff
>>
>> Bill and Dan, I had a 90 XJ6 and loved it.  I was hoping to get to 200,000
>> miles and unfortunately the rear end started making horrible grinding
>>     
> noises
>   
>> with just 8,000 miles to go.  The cost of a rebuilt rear end was twice the
>> value of the car.  I traded it in with British European Motors for a Land
>> Rover, and Mark is going to fix my old car up and use it for a courtesy
>> vehicle so it will live on.  BTW love the Land Rover, and glad that gas
>> prices have fallen.
>>
>> Andy
>> 67 MGB
>> 74 MGB GT
>> 60 MGA Coupe 90% restored.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
>>     
> On
>   
>> Behalf Of William Shoemaker
>> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:51 AM
>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Jaguar stuff
>>
>> Morning Dan,
>>
>> I'm also a fan of the XJ6 with it's in line big 4 liter 6..great touring 
>> cars without being too big. I, however,
>> try to stick to '90 to '93 which have lost the lucas electric woes and 
>> are more reliable and a bit easier
>> to work on. I just did a brake job on my '90 and the brakes are in the 
>> normal wheel location and
>> were a piece of cake.  If you have time, I would like to look at your 
>> pix. Thanks!
>>
>> Bill Shoemaker
>> '90 & '92 XJ6's
>> Dan wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I know this group is mostly about cute British sports cars, but my
>>> battleship Jaguar Series III XJ6 flies the Union Jack, too.  Actually,
>>>       
> I'm
>   
>>> jealous of all those MGs, Triumphs and Lotus' out there and hope to count
>>> one in my collection some day soon.
>>>
>>> Anyway, HMS Grandpa (as we refer to it) needs new rear brakes (the
>>>       
> drivers
>   
>>> side caliper is leaking fluid all over everything).  For those unfamiliar
>>> with Jaguar engineering, these brakes aren't located right behind the
>>>       
> road
>   
>>> wheels were access would be, well, accessible.  Nooo, these are inboard
>>> mounted brakes located on either side of the differential thus ensuring
>>> several busted knuckles and lots of swearing getting at 'em.  While
>>>     
>>>       
>> perhaps
>>   
>>     
>>> technically accessible without removal of the entire rear suspension
>>> assembly, the generally recommended procedure calls for just such a
>>>     
>>>       
>> removal.
>>   
>>     
>>> So, out came the rear end yesterday and now I'm waiting on the new
>>>     
>>>       
>> calipers,
>>   
>>     
>>> rotors and other assorted parts to arrive before proceeding.  If anyone
>>>     
>>>       
>> one
>>   
>>     
>>> wants pics of a bottomless Jag, shoot me an email and I'll send you the
>>> pin-ups.
>>>
>>> Dan Drummond
>>> 1998 XK8
>>> 1986 XJ6
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>>     
>>>       
>> _______________________________________________
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From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov 25 20:03:54 2008
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:03:54 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Andy's MGA Coupe
Message-ID: <20081126030358.4D115187645@autox.team.net>

Ron, you asked for an update on my 1960 MGA Coupe restoration.  For those
who don't know about this car, I bought it 2 years ago this Christmas from
some one in Grass Valley.  The car had sat outside in a farmer's field in
Sacramento for about 20 years.  The weeds had grown through the floor boards
to the roof.  It had been home for many small animals for many years.  The
previous owner had "rebuilt" the engine and purchased a complete interior
trim kit with leather seat covers.  I have always loved these cars and had
been looking for one for many months so I thought it was beautiful even with
the no-native plants and animal presents.  I decided to do a complete body
off, nut and bolt restoration.  I must say that the body was relatively rust
free with the major hidden damage being to front right hand front wing.  It
had been in a major front side collision which destroyed the front fender
(covered in bondo) and also bent the frame.  I had the frame straightened
and then sand blasted and painted it with Endrust primer and chassis black.
I've rebuilt all of the suspension with new parts and reinstalled them back
on the frame.  I've rebuilt front the calipers, rear brakes and all the
brakes are now installed.  The wiring harness, fuel pipes and brake pipes
are also new and installed.  With the help on Norm's Auto machine shop we
rebuilt the previously "rebuilt" engine, and this time magnafluxed the
block, installed new camshaft bearings, cleaned all the grinding paste left
in all the oil ways, polished the journals, honed the bores, on and on.
I've bought a five speed gearbox kit from Pierce Manifolds and just
installed it with the engine last weekend.   So the frame is almost complete
just waiting for the transmission tunnel and floorboards, which I'll
probably install this weekend.  I started doing all the bodywork myself but
finally found an expert body guy and painter in Cotati.  He took the body
tub, wings, doors, bonnet and boot and all other items that needed painting.
He stretched both front fenders 3/8" to make them fit, and re-did all the
work that I had done.  He said "who did this body work, it's terrible".   I
reluctantly admitted it was I.  His work is superb.  The body work is all
finished and just waiting for me to put it back on the frame.  The color is
my version of Chariot Red, or what I think Chariot Red should look like.
Brilliant!  I've had all the chrome re-chromed by Chico in Santa Rosa and
his work is great, and fairly reasonable.  Hopefully I'll be able to get the
body back on over Christmas and then it's onto the inside trim.    My goal
is to have it back on the road in the new year.  

 

Andy

From gtwincams at pacbell.net  Tue Nov 25 20:12:16 2008
From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams at pacbell.net)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 03:12:16 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] Andy's MGA Coupe
Message-ID: <mailman.3.1227669213.3539.nobbc@autox.team.net>

Andy, 
Would you care to share the name of your Cotati bodyworker?
Thanks,
Greg Tatarian  
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

From nobbc at sonic.net  Tue Nov 25 20:38:46 2008
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:38:46 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Andy's MGA Coupe
In-Reply-To: <20081126030358.4D115187645@autox.team.net>
References: <20081126030358.4D115187645@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <492CC4C6.7030007@sonic.net>

Thanks for the update Andy. I'm looking forward to seeing the car on the 
road at one of our rides in the new year.

Ron
58 MGA

andy preston wrote:
> Ron, you asked for an update on my 1960 MGA Coupe restoration.  For those
> who don't know about this car, I bought it 2 years ago this Christmas from
> some one in Grass Valley.  The car had sat outside in a farmer's field in
> Sacramento for about 20 years.  The weeds had grown through the floor boards
> to the roof.  It had been home for many small animals for many years.  The
> previous owner had "rebuilt" the engine and purchased a complete interior
> trim kit with leather seat covers.  I have always loved these cars and had
> been looking for one for many months so I thought it was beautiful even with
> the no-native plants and animal presents.  I decided to do a complete body
> off, nut and bolt restoration.  I must say that the body was relatively rust
> free with the major hidden damage being to front right hand front wing.  It
> had been in a major front side collision which destroyed the front fender
> (covered in bondo) and also bent the frame.  I had the frame straightened
> and then sand blasted and painted it with Endrust primer and chassis black.
> I've rebuilt all of the suspension with new parts and reinstalled them back
> on the frame.  I've rebuilt front the calipers, rear brakes and all the
> brakes are now installed.  The wiring harness, fuel pipes and brake pipes
> are also new and installed.  With the help on Norm's Auto machine shop we
> rebuilt the previously "rebuilt" engine, and this time magnafluxed the
> block, installed new camshaft bearings, cleaned all the grinding paste left
> in all the oil ways, polished the journals, honed the bores, on and on.
> I've bought a five speed gearbox kit from Pierce Manifolds and just
> installed it with the engine last weekend.   So the frame is almost complete
> just waiting for the transmission tunnel and floorboards, which I'll
> probably install this weekend.  I started doing all the bodywork myself but
> finally found an expert body guy and painter in Cotati.  He took the body
> tub, wings, doors, bonnet and boot and all other items that needed painting.
> He stretched both front fenders 3/8" to make them fit, and re-did all the
> work that I had done.  He said "who did this body work, it's terrible".   I
> reluctantly admitted it was I.  His work is superb.  The body work is all
> finished and just waiting for me to put it back on the frame.  The color is
> my version of Chariot Red, or what I think Chariot Red should look like.
> Brilliant!  I've had all the chrome re-chromed by Chico in Santa Rosa and
> his work is great, and fairly reasonable.  Hopefully I'll be able to get the
> body back on over Christmas and then it's onto the inside trim.    My goal
> is to have it back on the road in the new year.  
> 
>  
> 
> Andy
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From dawson at authorspublishing.com  Tue Nov 25 22:45:29 2008
From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:45:29 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Andy's MGA Coupe
In-Reply-To: <492CC4C6.7030007@sonic.net>
References: <20081126030358.4D115187645@autox.team.net>
	<492CC4C6.7030007@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <02F3250D-B855-4470-BE4C-6F47F9C8BCBB@authorspublishing.com>

OK, we MUST pick a date for a meet at my new car-friendly digs early  
in 2009, so you can show it off!

Dawson

On Nov 25, 2008, at 7:38 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote:

> Thanks for the update Andy. I'm looking forward to seeing the car on  
> the road at one of our rides in the new year.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> andy preston wrote:
>> Ron, you asked for an update on my 1960 MGA Coupe restoration.  For  
>> those
>> who don't know about this car, I bought it 2 years ago this  
>> Christmas from
>> some one in Grass Valley.  The car had sat outside in a farmer's  
>> field in
>> Sacramento for about 20 years.  The weeds had grown through the  
>> floor boards
>> to the roof.  It had been home for many small animals for many  
>> years.  The
>> previous owner had "rebuilt" the engine and purchased a complete  
>> interior
>> trim kit with leather seat covers.  I have always loved these cars  
>> and had
>> been looking for one for many months so I thought it was beautiful  
>> even with
>> the no-native plants and animal presents.  I decided to do a  
>> complete body
>> off, nut and bolt restoration.  I must say that the body was  
>> relatively rust
>> free with the major hidden damage being to front right hand front  
>> wing.  It
>> had been in a major front side collision which destroyed the front  
>> fender
>> (covered in bondo) and also bent the frame.  I had the frame  
>> straightened
>> and then sand blasted and painted it with Endrust primer and  
>> chassis black.
>> I've rebuilt all of the suspension with new parts and reinstalled  
>> them back
>> on the frame.  I've rebuilt front the calipers, rear brakes and all  
>> the
>> brakes are now installed.  The wiring harness, fuel pipes and brake  
>> pipes
>> are also new and installed.  With the help on Norm's Auto machine  
>> shop we
>> rebuilt the previously "rebuilt" engine, and this time magnafluxed  
>> the
>> block, installed new camshaft bearings, cleaned all the grinding  
>> paste left
>> in all the oil ways, polished the journals, honed the bores, on and  
>> on.
>> I've bought a five speed gearbox kit from Pierce Manifolds and just
>> installed it with the engine last weekend.   So the frame is almost  
>> complete
>> just waiting for the transmission tunnel and floorboards, which I'll
>> probably install this weekend.  I started doing all the bodywork  
>> myself but
>> finally found an expert body guy and painter in Cotati.  He took  
>> the body
>> tub, wings, doors, bonnet and boot and all other items that needed  
>> painting.
>> He stretched both front fenders 3/8" to make them fit, and re-did  
>> all the
>> work that I had done.  He said "who did this body work, it's  
>> terrible".   I
>> reluctantly admitted it was I.  His work is superb.  The body work  
>> is all
>> finished and just waiting for me to put it back on the frame.  The  
>> color is
>> my version of Chariot Red, or what I think Chariot Red should look  
>> like.
>> Brilliant!  I've had all the chrome re-chromed by Chico in Santa  
>> Rosa and
>> his work is great, and fairly reasonable.  Hopefully I'll be able  
>> to get the
>> body back on over Christmas and then it's onto the inside trim.     
>> My goal
>> is to have it back on the road in the new year.   Andy
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 25 23:34:25 2008
From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:34:25 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Andy's MGA Coupe
In-Reply-To: <20081126030358.4D115187645@autox.team.net>
References: <20081126030358.4D115187645@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <BAY140-DS12118568490DBBBBE84509F0A0@phx.gbl>

You GO boy. Can't wait to see it!

Norm


From: andy preston
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:03 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: [Nobbc] Andy's MGA Coupe


Ron, you asked for an update on my 1960 MGA Coupe restoration.  For those
who don't know about this car, I bought it 2 years ago this Christmas from
some one in Grass Valley.  The car had sat outside in a farmer's field in
Sacramento for about 20 years.  The weeds had grown through the floor boards
to the roof.  It had been home for many small animals for many years.  The
previous owner had "rebuilt" the engine and purchased a complete interior
trim kit with leather seat covers.  I have always loved these cars and had
been looking for one for many months so I thought it was beautiful even with
the no-native plants and animal presents.  I decided to do a complete body
off, nut and bolt restoration.  I must say that the body was relatively rust
free with the major hidden damage being to front right hand front wing.  It
had been in a major front side collision which destroyed the front fender
(covered in bondo) and also bent the frame.  I had the frame straightened
and then sand blasted and painted it with Endrust primer and chassis black.
I've rebuilt all of the suspension with new parts and reinstalled them back
on the frame.  I've rebuilt front the calipers, rear brakes and all the
brakes are now installed.  The wiring harness, fuel pipes and brake pipes
are also new and installed.  With the help on Norm's Auto machine shop we
rebuilt the previously "rebuilt" engine, and this time magnafluxed the
block, installed new camshaft bearings, cleaned all the grinding paste left
in all the oil ways, polished the journals, honed the bores, on and on.
I've bought a five speed gearbox kit from Pierce Manifolds and just
installed it with the engine last weekend.   So the frame is almost complete
just waiting for the transmission tunnel and floorboards, which I'll
probably install this weekend.  I started doing all the bodywork myself but
finally found an expert body guy and painter in Cotati.  He took the body
tub, wings, doors, bonnet and boot and all other items that needed painting.
He stretched both front fenders 3/8" to make them fit, and re-did all the
work that I had done.  He said "who did this body work, it's terrible".   I
reluctantly admitted it was I.  His work is superb.  The body work is all
finished and just waiting for me to put it back on the frame.  The color is
my version of Chariot Red, or what I think Chariot Red should look like.
Brilliant!  I've had all the chrome re-chromed by Chico in Santa Rosa and
his work is great, and fairly reasonable.  Hopefully I'll be able to get the
body back on over Christmas and then it's onto the inside trim.    My goal
is to have it back on the road in the new year.



Andy
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From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Wed Nov 26 19:42:15 2008
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (andy preston)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:42:15 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Andy's MGA Coupe
In-Reply-To: <20081126031334.04685187655@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <20081127024213.60AA6187650@autox.team.net>

Hi Greg, last time I spoke to him he was talking about giving up the weekend
work because his wife was starting to complain that she never saw him.  He
lives in Santa Rosa but works at the weekend out of a 2 car garage in
Cotati.  I'll give him a call and see if he is OK with me giving out his
number.

Happy Thanksgiving to you and Trish.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of gtwincams at pacbell.net
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:12 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Andy's MGA Coupe

Andy, 
Would you care to share the name of your Cotati bodyworker?
Thanks,
Greg Tatarian  
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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From gtwincams at pacbell.net  Thu Nov 27 08:11:19 2008
From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams at pacbell.net)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 15:11:19 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] Andy's MGA Coupe
Message-ID: <mailman.4.1227798752.3539.nobbc@autox.team.net>

I understand, Andy.
Thanks,
Greg

------Original Message------
From: andy preston
Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club
Sent: Nov 26, 2008 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Andy's MGA Coupe

Hi Greg, last time I spoke to him he was talking about giving up the weekend
work because his wife was starting to complain that she never saw him.  He
lives in Santa Rosa but works at the weekend out of a 2 car garage in
Cotati.  I'll give him a call and see if he is OK with me giving out his
number.

Happy Thanksgiving to you and Trish.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of gtwincams at pacbell.net
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:12 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Andy's MGA Coupe

Andy, 
Would you care to share the name of your Cotati bodyworker?
Thanks,
Greg Tatarian  
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