From dawson at authorspublishing.com  Sun May  4 22:31:16 2008
From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 21:31:16 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Need Advice w 1953 MG-TD
References: <002301c8ae1d$a5712740$0d00000a@normcay>
Message-ID: <58FC3D64-96A6-440F-940B-7F96E9FE21F7@authorspublishing.com>

Hi Ron and Greg,

I wound up buying it, Ron, thanks for the tip! Its a good example,  
frame, body and interior are primo. The engine and transmission are  
out, not rebuilt, partially disassembled:

http://picasaweb.google.com/normcay/MGpics?authkey=OwuF6YpwLjQ

Is there a shop in the bay area that can rebuild? The car is in  
Sacramento, the former owner is trailering it out here. I'd rather  
have him unload at the rebuilders, since my garage is bulging at the  
seams.

Or does any charitable club member with acreage have space for the  
body while I have the motor rebuilt?

Any advice is appreciated, for instance, is it important to rebuild  
the old one, rather than just grab an existing rebuilt wherever I can  
find one?

I swear I will have this one on the road in time for club ride this  
year!

Dawson

From sand at frii.com  Sun May  4 22:56:51 2008
From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 22:56:51 -0600
Subject: [Nobbc] Need Advice w 1953 MG-TD
References: <002301c8ae1d$a5712740$0d00000a@normcay>
	<58FC3D64-96A6-440F-940B-7F96E9FE21F7@authorspublishing.com>
Message-ID: <000701c8ae6c$6eb2ed20$0200a8c0@stevewbxu6x2qe>

hey dawson you could try north bay british euro-rohnert park-
steve-colorado-

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dawson Church" <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Cc: "Greg Tatarian" <gregtat at pacbell.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:31 PM
Subject: [Nobbc] Need Advice w 1953 MG-TD


> Hi Ron and Greg,
> 
> I wound up buying it, Ron, thanks for the tip! Its a good example,  
> frame, body and interior are primo. The engine and transmission are  
> out, not rebuilt, partially disassembled:
> 
> http://picasaweb.google.com/normcay/MGpics?authkey=OwuF6YpwLjQ
> 
> Is there a shop in the bay area that can rebuild? The car is in  
> Sacramento, the former owner is trailering it out here. I'd rather  
> have him unload at the rebuilders, since my garage is bulging at the  
> seams.
> 
> Or does any charitable club member with acreage have space for the  
> body while I have the motor rebuilt?
> 
> Any advice is appreciated, for instance, is it important to rebuild  
> the old one, rather than just grab an existing rebuilt wherever I can  
> find one?
> 
> I swear I will have this one on the road in time for club ride this  
> year!
> 
> Dawson
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From sand at frii.com  Sun May  4 23:22:05 2008
From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 23:22:05 -0600
Subject: [Nobbc] Need -dawson-orig #s
References: <002301c8ae1d$a5712740$0d00000a@normcay><58FC3D64-96A6-440F-940B-7F96E9FE21F7@authorspublishing.com>
	<000701c8ae6c$6eb2ed20$0200a8c0@stevewbxu6x2qe>
Message-ID: <000c01c8ae6f$f56e0450$0200a8c0@stevewbxu6x2qe>

always better to have orig. rebuilt rather than thow in something elese-
deal being matching #s
if this eng-trans is what this chasis and body all got sent out w/ from the 
start then that,s what you want-
all these #s e-z to track down-

cant say for m.g. but for triumphs it can be tracked down to day and time 
this commishion # issued to the 2 guys that built the car to the kid that 
was sweepng the floor at 10:42 a.m. that day and what girl in the office 
brewed the tea..
do you want a primo ham and eggs at the top of the mark or or a box of 
scrambeled eggs from jack in the box?-
it,s your choice and it,s your pocketbook.
keep it orig as possible at all time!
theres my 2 cents worth.
good luck w/ it-steve.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Lehmann" <sand at frii.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need Advice w 1953 MG-TD


> hey dawson you could try north bay british euro-rohnert park-
> steve-colorado-
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dawson Church" <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Cc: "Greg Tatarian" <gregtat at pacbell.net>
> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:31 PM
> Subject: [Nobbc] Need Advice w 1953 MG-TD
>
>
>> Hi Ron and Greg,
>>
>> I wound up buying it, Ron, thanks for the tip! Its a good example,
>> frame, body and interior are primo. The engine and transmission are
>> out, not rebuilt, partially disassembled:
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/normcay/MGpics?authkey=OwuF6YpwLjQ
>>
>> Is there a shop in the bay area that can rebuild? The car is in
>> Sacramento, the former owner is trailering it out here. I'd rather
>> have him unload at the rebuilders, since my garage is bulging at the
>> seams.
>>
>> Or does any charitable club member with acreage have space for the
>> body while I have the motor rebuilt?
>>
>> Any advice is appreciated, for instance, is it important to rebuild
>> the old one, rather than just grab an existing rebuilt wherever I can
>> find one?
>>
>> I swear I will have this one on the road in time for club ride this
>> year!
>>
>> Dawson
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc 

From dawson at authorspublishing.com  Sun May  4 23:47:19 2008
From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 22:47:19 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Need -dawson-orig #s
In-Reply-To: <000c01c8ae6f$f56e0450$0200a8c0@stevewbxu6x2qe>
References: <002301c8ae1d$a5712740$0d00000a@normcay><58FC3D64-96A6-440F-940B-7F96E9FE21F7@authorspublishing.com>
	<000701c8ae6c$6eb2ed20$0200a8c0@stevewbxu6x2qe>
	<000c01c8ae6f$f56e0450$0200a8c0@stevewbxu6x2qe>
Message-ID: <D4BEF739-D9E5-4574-9ABE-5B2EE8819C1F@authorspublishing.com>

Yes, all the numbers match.

I'm not thrilled with N Bay British, he balanced my Lotus Elite carbs,  
and a $400 estimate became a $1400 invoice. I could have rebuilt them  
for less.

I have a guy who works on my Lotus now as a side job to his regular  
work, but I'd rather find someone who's rebuilt an MG motor before.

So I want a functional engine, but not the platinum cotter pins!

Dawson

On May 4, 2008, at 10:22 PM, Steve Lehmann wrote:

> always better to have orig. rebuilt rather than thow in something  
> elese-
> deal being matching #s
> if this eng-trans is what this chasis and body all got sent out w/  
> from the
> start then that,s what you want-
> all these #s e-z to track down-
>
> cant say for m.g. but for triumphs it can be tracked down to day and  
> time
> this commishion # issued to the 2 guys that built the car to the kid  
> that
> was sweepng the floor at 10:42 a.m. that day and what girl in the  
> office
> brewed the tea..
> do you want a primo ham and eggs at the top of the mark or or a box of
> scrambeled eggs from jack in the box?-
> it,s your choice and it,s your pocketbook.
> keep it orig as possible at all time!
> theres my 2 cents worth.
> good luck w/ it-steve.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Lehmann" <sand at frii.com>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need Advice w 1953 MG-TD
>
>
>> hey dawson you could try north bay british euro-rohnert park-
>> steve-colorado-
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dawson Church" <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Cc: "Greg Tatarian" <gregtat at pacbell.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:31 PM
>> Subject: [Nobbc] Need Advice w 1953 MG-TD
>>
>>
>>> Hi Ron and Greg,
>>>
>>> I wound up buying it, Ron, thanks for the tip! Its a good example,
>>> frame, body and interior are primo. The engine and transmission are
>>> out, not rebuilt, partially disassembled:
>>>
>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/normcay/MGpics?authkey=OwuF6YpwLjQ
>>>
>>> Is there a shop in the bay area that can rebuild? The car is in
>>> Sacramento, the former owner is trailering it out here. I'd rather
>>> have him unload at the rebuilders, since my garage is bulging at the
>>> seams.
>>>
>>> Or does any charitable club member with acreage have space for the
>>> body while I have the motor rebuilt?
>>>
>>> Any advice is appreciated, for instance, is it important to rebuild
>>> the old one, rather than just grab an existing rebuilt wherever I  
>>> can
>>> find one?
>>>
>>> I swear I will have this one on the road in time for club ride this
>>> year!
>>>
>>> Dawson
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
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> Nobbc at autox.team.net
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From gtwincams at pacbell.net  Mon May  5 06:25:36 2008
From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams)
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 05:25:36 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Need Advice w 1953 MG-TD
In-Reply-To: <58FC3D64-96A6-440F-940B-7F96E9FE21F7@authorspublishing.com>
References: <002301c8ae1d$a5712740$0d00000a@normcay>
	<58FC3D64-96A6-440F-940B-7F96E9FE21F7@authorspublishing.com>
Message-ID: <481EFCC0.6080503@pacbell.net>

Hi Dawson,
Congratulations! Sounds like a great find. In my view, the mechanical 
aspects are usually less daunting than everything else, and thankfully, 
MG engines are close enough to American pushrod engines so that most 
high-quality mechanics and machinists over 40 can handle the work. I 
can't recommend anyone in particular, since I do all my own work. I do 
agree with Steve L. that keeping the original engine and drive train is 
by far the most advisable approach, both from an historical sense and 
for retaining the highest value for the car. Just make sure the seller 
gives you all of the parts ("I know it had a crankshaft here somewhere...").
I recommend you get in touch with the local/regional MG clubs and ask 
for their recommendations re: rebuilders. To each his marque!
Cheers,
Greg


Dawson Church wrote:
> Hi Ron and Greg,
>
> I wound up buying it, Ron, thanks for the tip! Its a good example,  
> frame, body and interior are primo. The engine and transmission are  
> out, not rebuilt, partially disassembled:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/normcay/MGpics?authkey=OwuF6YpwLjQ
>
> Is there a shop in the bay area that can rebuild? The car is in  
> Sacramento, the former owner is trailering it out here. I'd rather  
> have him unload at the rebuilders, since my garage is bulging at the  
> seams.
>
> Or does any charitable club member with acreage have space for the  
> body while I have the motor rebuilt?
>
> Any advice is appreciated, for instance, is it important to rebuild  
> the old one, rather than just grab an existing rebuilt wherever I can  
> find one?
>
> I swear I will have this one on the road in time for club ride this  
> year!
>
> Dawson
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From gphillips at slpcpa.com  Mon May  5 06:59:40 2008
From: gphillips at slpcpa.com (=?utf-8?B?R2FyeSBQaGlsbGlwcw==?=)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 12:59:40 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] Need -dawson-orig #s
In-Reply-To: <D4BEF739-D9E5-4574-9ABE-5B2EE8819C1F@authorspublishing.com>
References: <002301c8ae1d$a5712740$0d00000a@normcay><58FC3D64-96A6-440F-940B-7F96E9FE21F7@authorspublishing.com><000701c8ae6c$6eb2ed20$0200a8c0@stevewbxu6x2qe><000c01c8ae6f$f56e0450$0200a8c0@stevewbxu6x2qe><D4BEF739-D9E5-4574-9ABE-5B2EE8819C1F@authorspublishing.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.2.1209992425.1197.nobbc@autox.team.net>

I went to William Shaw of Corte Madera British & European 
Motors in Greenbrea to rebuild my TR6's engine (and breaks, rear end and clutch system) and he did a fine job.  Plus he's a nice guy - very British.  You might want to talk with him.  It won't be cheap but his  approach and follow up are quite good.

Gary Phillips
'72 TR6  
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: Dawson Church <dawson at authorspublishing.com>

Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 22:47:19 
To:North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need -dawson-orig #s


Yes, all the numbers match.

I'm not thrilled with N Bay British, he balanced my Lotus Elite carbs,  
and a $400 estimate became a $1400 invoice. I could have rebuilt them  
for less.

I have a guy who works on my Lotus now as a side job to his regular  
work, but I'd rather find someone who's rebuilt an MG motor before.

So I want a functional engine, but not the platinum cotter pins!

Dawson

On May 4, 2008, at 10:22 PM, Steve Lehmann wrote:

> always better to have orig. rebuilt rather than thow in something  
> elese-
> deal being matching #s
> if this eng-trans is what this chasis and body all got sent out w/  
> from the
> start then that,s what you want-
> all these #s e-z to track down-
>
> cant say for m.g. but for triumphs it can be tracked down to day and  
> time
> this commishion # issued to the 2 guys that built the car to the kid  
> that
> was sweepng the floor at 10:42 a.m. that day and what girl in the  
> office
> brewed the tea..
> do you want a primo ham and eggs at the top of the mark or or a box of
> scrambeled eggs from jack in the box?-
> it,s your choice and it,s your pocketbook.
> keep it orig as possible at all time!
> theres my 2 cents worth.
> good luck w/ it-steve.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Lehmann" <sand at frii.com>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need Advice w 1953 MG-TD
>
>
>> hey dawson you could try north bay british euro-rohnert park-
>> steve-colorado-
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dawson Church" <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Cc: "Greg Tatarian" <gregtat at pacbell.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:31 PM
>> Subject: [Nobbc] Need Advice w 1953 MG-TD
>>
>>
>>> Hi Ron and Greg,
>>>
>>> I wound up buying it, Ron, thanks for the tip! Its a good example,
>>> frame, body and interior are primo. The engine and transmission are
>>> out, not rebuilt, partially disassembled:
>>>
>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/normcay/MGpics?authkey=OwuF6YpwLjQ
>>>
>>> Is there a shop in the bay area that can rebuild? The car is in
>>> Sacramento, the former owner is trailering it out here. I'd rather
>>> have him unload at the rebuilders, since my garage is bulging at the
>>> seams.
>>>
>>> Or does any charitable club member with acreage have space for the
>>> body while I have the motor rebuilt?
>>>
>>> Any advice is appreciated, for instance, is it important to rebuild
>>> the old one, rather than just grab an existing rebuilt wherever I  
>>> can
>>> find one?
>>>
>>> I swear I will have this one on the road in time for club ride this
>>> year!
>>>
>>> Dawson
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
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> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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From DPaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us  Mon May  5 09:45:52 2008
From: DPaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us (Paige, Dean)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 08:45:52 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Need -dawson-orig #s
In-Reply-To: <000c01c8ae6f$f56e0450$0200a8c0@stevewbxu6x2qe>
Message-ID: <38EB329C843ED444A8CF05627CC4BFA612B6A0@mail2.sr.local>

Fine examples of restorations coming out of British European in Cotati.
Mark Singleton and company. Had A first place on a customers TR4-A last
year. Been doing business with him for over 15 years. Have seen some of
the prettiest Brit restorations out of his shop ever. Did a great job on
my TR-6 when I cracked a valve and forever scarred a cylinder wall
beyond hope. Found me a good block new head and put together the
cleanest engine bay I've ever seen in a Brit roadster and an engine that
runs like a clock and leaks the least amount of oil I've ever seen in a
TR anyway.

Deano

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Steve Lehmann
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:22 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need -dawson-orig #s

always better to have orig. rebuilt rather than thow in something elese-
deal being matching #s if this eng-trans is what this chasis and body
all got sent out w/ from the start then that,s what you want- all these
#s e-z to track down-

cant say for m.g. but for triumphs it can be tracked down to day and
time this commishion # issued to the 2 guys that built the car to the
kid that was sweepng the floor at 10:42 a.m. that day and what girl in
the office brewed the tea..
do you want a primo ham and eggs at the top of the mark or or a box of
scrambeled eggs from jack in the box?- it,s your choice and it,s your
pocketbook.
keep it orig as possible at all time!
theres my 2 cents worth.
good luck w/ it-steve.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Lehmann" <sand at frii.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need Advice w 1953 MG-TD


> hey dawson you could try north bay british euro-rohnert park-
> steve-colorado-
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dawson Church" <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Cc: "Greg Tatarian" <gregtat at pacbell.net>
> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:31 PM
> Subject: [Nobbc] Need Advice w 1953 MG-TD
>
>
>> Hi Ron and Greg,
>>
>> I wound up buying it, Ron, thanks for the tip! Its a good example,
>> frame, body and interior are primo. The engine and transmission are
>> out, not rebuilt, partially disassembled:
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/normcay/MGpics?authkey=OwuF6YpwLjQ
>>
>> Is there a shop in the bay area that can rebuild? The car is in
>> Sacramento, the former owner is trailering it out here. I'd rather
>> have him unload at the rebuilders, since my garage is bulging at the
>> seams.
>>
>> Or does any charitable club member with acreage have space for the
>> body while I have the motor rebuilt?
>>
>> Any advice is appreciated, for instance, is it important to rebuild
>> the old one, rather than just grab an existing rebuilt wherever I can

>> find one?
>>
>> I swear I will have this one on the road in time for club ride this
>> year!
>>
>> Dawson
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
_______________________________________________
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From gtwincams at pacbell.net  Mon May  5 09:51:58 2008
From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams)
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 08:51:58 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Need -dawson-orig #s
In-Reply-To: <38EB329C843ED444A8CF05627CC4BFA612B6A0@mail2.sr.local>
References: <38EB329C843ED444A8CF05627CC4BFA612B6A0@mail2.sr.local>
Message-ID: <481F2D1E.6000900@pacbell.net>

Hey, this is great! Let's keep the recommendations coming so that all 
members can get a list together of shops that may be local to them.
Cheers,
Greg


Paige, Dean wrote:
> Fine examples of restorations coming out of British European in Cotati.
> Mark Singleton and company. Had A first place on a customers TR4-A last
> year. Been doing business with him for over 15 years. Have seen some of
> the prettiest Brit restorations out of his shop ever. Did a great job on
> my TR-6 when I cracked a valve and forever scarred a cylinder wall
> beyond hope. Found me a good block new head and put together the
> cleanest engine bay I've ever seen in a Brit roadster and an engine that
> runs like a clock and leaks the least amount of oil I've ever seen in a
> TR anyway.
>
> Deano

From tstarlingbrown at yahoo.com  Mon May  5 10:12:43 2008
From: tstarlingbrown at yahoo.com (Tim Brown)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 09:12:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Nobbc] Need -dawson-orig #s
In-Reply-To: <481F2D1E.6000900@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <788711.70653.qm@web56209.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

   I do NOT recommend Ed Wright's old shop ... he is no longer there,
   current owner means well but ... $3000.00 and three months to smog a
   Spitfire... still recovering financially ...
   --- On Mon, 5/5/08, gtwincams <gtwincams at pacbell.net> wrote:

     From: gtwincams <gtwincams at pacbell.net>
     Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need -dawson-orig #s
     To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
     Date: Monday, May 5, 2008, 8:51 AM
Hey, this is great! Let's keep the recommendations coming so that all
members can get a list together of shops that may be local to them.
Cheers,
Greg

Paige, Dean wrote:
> Fine examples of restorations coming out of British European in Cotati.
> Mark Singleton and company. Had A first place on a customers TR4-A last
> year. Been doing business with him for over 15 years. Have seen some of
> the prettiest Brit restorations out of his shop ever. Did a great job on
> my TR-6 when I cracked a valve and forever scarred a cylinder wall
> beyond hope. Found me a good block new head and put together the
> cleanest engine bay I've ever seen in a Brit roadster and an engine
that
> runs like a clock and leaks the least amount of oil I've ever seen in
a
> TR anyway.
>
> Deano
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From sand at frii.com  Mon May  5 10:23:53 2008
From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 10:23:53 -0600
Subject: [Nobbc] club tech project???
Message-ID: <001301c8aecc$69483380$0200a8c0@stevewbxu6x2qe>

i would be inclined to belive that w/ the headpower of the clan and a book why
not somebody come up w/a garage for this engine and do it as a club project
tech session?

of course head will have to go to a shop.
(ken-auto life center- yolonda ave)-
take in crank-rods ect. and have them miced-
i say it could be a good club project.
just a thought-
steve.

From splath at comcast.net  Mon May  5 20:48:07 2008
From: splath at comcast.net (Steve Plath)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 19:48:07 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Need -dawson-orig #s
References: <002301c8ae1d$a5712740$0d00000a@normcay><58FC3D64-96A6-440F-940B-7F96E9FE21F7@authorspublishing.com><000701c8ae6c$6eb2ed20$0200a8c0@stevewbxu6x2qe><000c01c8ae6f$f56e0450$0200a8c0@stevewbxu6x2qe><D4BEF739-D9E5-4574-9ABE-5B2EE8819C1F@authorspublishing.com>
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Careful Gary, William is Irish and may take exception to being called "very 
British".  I can say I've been taking all my cars to William for about 6 or 
7 years and am very happy with his work.

Steve Plath
'69 Jaguar E-Type Coupe
'48 MG TC
'64 Daimler SP-250

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Phillips" <gphillips at slpcpa.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need -dawson-orig #s


>I went to William Shaw of Corte Madera British & European
> Motors in Greenbrea to rebuild my TR6's engine (and breaks, rear end and 
> clutch system) and he did a fine job.  Plus he's a nice guy - very 
> British.  You might want to talk with him.  It won't be cheap but his 
> approach and follow up are quite good.
>
> Gary Phillips
> '72 TR6
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dawson Church <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
>
> Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 22:47:19
> To:North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need -dawson-orig #s
>
>
> Yes, all the numbers match.
>
> I'm not thrilled with N Bay British, he balanced my Lotus Elite carbs,
> and a $400 estimate became a $1400 invoice. I could have rebuilt them
> for less.
>
> I have a guy who works on my Lotus now as a side job to his regular
> work, but I'd rather find someone who's rebuilt an MG motor before.
>
> So I want a functional engine, but not the platinum cotter pins!
>
> Dawson
>
> On May 4, 2008, at 10:22 PM, Steve Lehmann wrote:
>
>> always better to have orig. rebuilt rather than thow in something
>> elese-
>> deal being matching #s
>> if this eng-trans is what this chasis and body all got sent out w/
>> from the
>> start then that,s what you want-
>> all these #s e-z to track down-
>>
>> cant say for m.g. but for triumphs it can be tracked down to day and
>> time
>> this commishion # issued to the 2 guys that built the car to the kid
>> that
>> was sweepng the floor at 10:42 a.m. that day and what girl in the
>> office
>> brewed the tea..
>> do you want a primo ham and eggs at the top of the mark or or a box of
>> scrambeled eggs from jack in the box?-
>> it,s your choice and it,s your pocketbook.
>> keep it orig as possible at all time!
>> theres my 2 cents worth.
>> good luck w/ it-steve.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Lehmann" <sand at frii.com>
>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need Advice w 1953 MG-TD
>>
>>
>>> hey dawson you could try north bay british euro-rohnert park-
>>> steve-colorado-
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dawson Church" <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>> Cc: "Greg Tatarian" <gregtat at pacbell.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:31 PM
>>> Subject: [Nobbc] Need Advice w 1953 MG-TD
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Ron and Greg,
>>>>
>>>> I wound up buying it, Ron, thanks for the tip! Its a good example,
>>>> frame, body and interior are primo. The engine and transmission are
>>>> out, not rebuilt, partially disassembled:
>>>>
>>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/normcay/MGpics?authkey=OwuF6YpwLjQ
>>>>
>>>> Is there a shop in the bay area that can rebuild? The car is in
>>>> Sacramento, the former owner is trailering it out here. I'd rather
>>>> have him unload at the rebuilders, since my garage is bulging at the
>>>> seams.
>>>>
>>>> Or does any charitable club member with acreage have space for the
>>>> body while I have the motor rebuilt?
>>>>
>>>> Any advice is appreciated, for instance, is it important to rebuild
>>>> the old one, rather than just grab an existing rebuilt wherever I
>>>> can
>>>> find one?
>>>>
>>>> I swear I will have this one on the road in time for club ride this
>>>> year!
>>>>
>>>> Dawson
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From nobbc at sonic.net  Mon May  5 21:00:41 2008
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 20:00:41 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride
Message-ID: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net>

Our May ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has an idea for a 
destination, let's hear it. One of the nice things about this forum is 
that we can suggest destinations and events before we actually show up 
so let's get a discussion going.

My steering wheel is just about broken through but I was able to get a 
new one and should have it installed tomorrow or Wed.

Ron
58 MGA

From gtwincams at pacbell.net  Tue May  6 09:03:19 2008
From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams)
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 08:03:19 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride
In-Reply-To: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net>
References: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <48207337.3010504@pacbell.net>

I'd like to see a Petaluma or Novato starting point for a south Sonoma 
County/Marin County drive. We have a number of members who don't make 
the tours because of the added distance to north Santa Rosa - it would 
be nice to see some of them.
Cheese factory is a good destination/starting point, but does anyone 
know of a suitable picnic spot around Nicasio reservoir, or is there 
another suitable lunch spot? Sheryl, Dennis, any other Marinites?
Cheers,
Greg






Ron Engelhardt wrote:
> Our May ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has an idea for a 
> destination, let's hear it. One of the nice things about this forum is 
> that we can suggest destinations and events before we actually show up 
> so let's get a discussion going.
>
> My steering wheel is just about broken through but I was able to get a 
> new one and should have it installed tomorrow or Wed.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
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From home at drummondlaw.com  Tue May  6 09:55:28 2008
From: home at drummondlaw.com (Dan)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 08:55:28 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride
In-Reply-To: <48207337.3010504@pacbell.net>
References: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net> <48207337.3010504@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <001301c8af91$9b798410$d311cc4c@dandebbie>

Rancho Nicasio isn't a bad spot for lunch.  It's a pretty and easy drive
from Petaluma and usually a bit warmer.  We could also go down to one of the
Oyster places in Marshall.  Tony's is my favorite.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of gtwincams
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 8:03 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] May Ride

I'd like to see a Petaluma or Novato starting point for a south Sonoma 
County/Marin County drive. We have a number of members who don't make 
the tours because of the added distance to north Santa Rosa - it would 
be nice to see some of them.
Cheese factory is a good destination/starting point, but does anyone 
know of a suitable picnic spot around Nicasio reservoir, or is there 
another suitable lunch spot? Sheryl, Dennis, any other Marinites?
Cheers,
Greg






Ron Engelhardt wrote:
> Our May ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has an idea for a 
> destination, let's hear it. One of the nice things about this forum is 
> that we can suggest destinations and events before we actually show up 
> so let's get a discussion going.
>
> My steering wheel is just about broken through but I was able to get a 
> new one and should have it installed tomorrow or Wed.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
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From DPaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us  Tue May  6 10:09:13 2008
From: DPaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us (Paige, Dean)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:09:13 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride
In-Reply-To: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <38EB329C843ED444A8CF05627CC4BFA612B6A3@mail2.sr.local>

I'll miss this one Ron. Off to St Thomas on Friday. Have a good run.

Deano

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:01 PM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride

Our May ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has an idea for a
destination, let's hear it. One of the nice things about this forum is
that we can suggest destinations and events before we actually show up
so let's get a discussion going.

My steering wheel is just about broken through but I was able to get a
new one and should have it installed tomorrow or Wed.

Ron
58 MGA
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From napaguy at comcast.net  Tue May  6 10:35:24 2008
From: napaguy at comcast.net (Mel Cohen)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:35:24 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride
Message-ID: <A5B9100B7738475FAF6F3D37F38C723A@melc90a4374d70>

Ron

58 MGA

 

My wife and I will be in Atlanta this Weekend. Maybe next month.

 

 

Mel Cohen, 58 Morgan

From dawson at authorspublishing.com  Tue May  6 11:06:00 2008
From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 10:06:00 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride
In-Reply-To: <48207337.3010504@pacbell.net>
References: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net> <48207337.3010504@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <5D5D190D-DB82-48F2-9969-7B32FBEF558F@authorspublishing.com>

Here's the link to the Cheese Factory:

http://www.marinfrenchcheese.com

Dawson

On May 6, 2008, at 8:03 AM, gtwincams wrote:

> I'd like to see a Petaluma or Novato starting point for a south Sonoma
> County/Marin County drive. We have a number of members who don't make
> the tours because of the added distance to north Santa Rosa - it would
> be nice to see some of them.
> Cheese factory is a good destination/starting point, but does anyone
> know of a suitable picnic spot around Nicasio reservoir, or is there
> another suitable lunch spot? Sheryl, Dennis, any other Marinites?
> Cheers,
> Greg
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ron Engelhardt wrote:
>> Our May ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has an idea  
>> for a
>> destination, let's hear it. One of the nice things about this forum  
>> is
>> that we can suggest destinations and events before we actually show  
>> up
>> so let's get a discussion going.
>>
>> My steering wheel is just about broken through but I was able to  
>> get a
>> new one and should have it installed tomorrow or Wed.
>>
>> Ron
>> 58 MGA
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From SirPLB at aol.com  Tue May  6 11:09:23 2008
From: SirPLB at aol.com (SirPLB at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 13:09:23 EDT
Subject: [Nobbc] Need -dawson-orig #s
Message-ID: <c4e.31d8e9a6.3551eac3@aol.com>

British Car Fans,

I've been taking my 74 Jensen Healey to Vintage Auto in Rohnert Park for a 
little over 4 years.   He (Bob) kinda came with the car, as the previous owner 
had been using him for about 15 years.   I'm not sure of the address but it is 
located behind Jennifer's Convertibles on the West side of the freeway. He 
does great work, probably doesn't charge enough, can locate the various parts for 
the repair and gets the job done in a reasonable time. The phone number is 
584-5100.

Usual caveats apply.

Cheers,

Pat


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From sand at frii.com  Tue May  6 12:28:10 2008
From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 12:28:10 -0600
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride-gregs words-
References: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net> <48207337.3010504@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <000a01c8afa6$f05ba930$0200a8c0@stevewbxu6x2qe>

greg i have been preaching a novato or petaluma spot once in awhile for a 
very long time.(3 years?)
picnic on top mt. tam would be great.
i agree w/ your words below futher than i can say-
last year some of the marin guys were hooking up at strawberry village 
shopping center for rides.
i always thought  the donut shop on old redwood north of grant ave novato 
would be perfect.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "gtwincams" <gtwincams at pacbell.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] May Ride


> I'd like to see a Petaluma or Novato starting point for a south Sonoma
> County/Marin County drive. We have a number of members who don't make
> the tours because of the added distance to north Santa Rosa - it would
> be nice to see some of them.
> Cheese factory is a good destination/starting point, but does anyone
> know of a suitable picnic spot around Nicasio reservoir, or is there
> another suitable lunch spot? Sheryl, Dennis, any other Marinites?
> Cheers,
> Greg
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ron Engelhardt wrote:
>> Our May ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has an idea for a
>> destination, let's hear it. One of the nice things about this forum is
>> that we can suggest destinations and events before we actually show up
>> so let's get a discussion going.
>>
>> My steering wheel is just about broken through but I was able to get a
>> new one and should have it installed tomorrow or Wed.
>>
>> Ron
>> 58 MGA
>> _______________________________________________
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From openbigdds at aol.com  Tue May  6 12:39:49 2008
From: openbigdds at aol.com (openbigdds at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 14:39:49 -0400
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride
In-Reply-To: <5D5D190D-DB82-48F2-9969-7B32FBEF558F@authorspublishing.com>
References: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net> <48207337.3010504@pacbell.net>
	<5D5D190D-DB82-48F2-9969-7B32FBEF558F@authorspublishing.com>
Message-ID: <8CA7DBFB2946929-1584-E34@webmail-nf21.sim.aol.com>

Hi Folks,
This is my 1st time weighing in on these conversations. I have not yet joined in a ride as they have been too far afield (north) or I had a conflict.? I live in Marin and the roads are made for British car motoring!? I am also a bicycle rider so know the road from that perspective as well.
The Cheese Factory is a wonderful place for a picnic.? I love Tony's too, on Tomales Bay.? Ton's of things to do and see in Marin County.
Marty

Marty Rayman, Naomi and TeD('53 TD)


-----Original Message-----
From: Dawson Church <dawson at authorspublishing.com>
To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, 6 May 2008 10:06 am
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] May Ride



Here's the link to the Cheese Factory:

http://www.marinfrenchcheese.com

Dawson

On May 6, 2008, at 8:03 AM, gtwincams wrote:

> I'd like to see a Petaluma or Novato starting point for a south Sonoma
> County/Marin County drive. We have a number of members who don't make
> the tours because of the added distance to north Santa Rosa - it would
> be nice to see some of them.
> Cheese factory is a good destination/starting point, but does anyone
> know of a suitable picnic spot around Nicasio reservoir, or is there
> another suitable lunch spot? Sheryl, Dennis, any other Marinites?
> Cheers,
> Greg
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ron Engelhardt wrote:
>> Our May ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has an idea  
>> for a
>> destination, let's hear it. One of the nice things about this forum  
>> is
>> that we can suggest destinations and events before we actually show  
>> up
>> so let's get a discussion going.
>>
>> My steering wheel is just about broken through but I was able to  
>> get a
>> new one and should have it installed tomorrow or Wed.
>>
>> Ron
>> 58 MGA
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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From bluesson at hotmail.com  Tue May  6 13:03:56 2008
From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 12:03:56 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride
In-Reply-To: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net>
References: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <BLU123-W1196F1558804967044D6D8D0D60@phx.gbl>

Ron and all,
   Remember years back when we joined up with the Bolinas Cyclecar Club in
Bolinas? Anywhere down that way is great driving fun.
   That said...the big drawback is too much traffic and too many cyclists
powered and human powered by the time of day you guys go driving...just too
many people on the roads down that way on the weekends. Same up here in SoCo.
   I still go out driving in the Scorpion and the modern Mini. But I call it
"Dawn Patrol". It's way more fun at the crack of dawn, with the roads just
about empty. By the time you guys roll out, the best part of the driving day
is over, and I'm back home. Just a thought. Oh, and the OTHER benefit is you
still have a lot of daylight left AFTER the drive is over.
                                     Tom> Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 20:00:41
-0700> From: nobbc at sonic.net> To: nobbc at autox.team.net> Subject: [Nobbc] May
Ride> > Our May ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has an idea for a
> destination, let's hear it. One of the nice things about this forum is >
that we can suggest destinations and events before we actually show up > so
let's get a discussion going.> > My steering wheel is just about broken
through but I was able to get a > new one and should have it installed
tomorrow or Wed.> > Ron> 58 MGA>
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From bluesson at hotmail.com  Tue May  6 15:45:26 2008
From: bluesson at hotmail.com (Tom Reier)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 14:45:26 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride =Penngrove Power & Implement Museum
In-Reply-To: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net>
References: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <BLU123-W3795A459BD432B578CF71CD0D60@phx.gbl>

  Better suggestion yet: Meet at the usual place and time, go to Penngrove via
the backroads and attend the Penngrove Power & Implement Museum / Tech High
School Robotics open house fund raiser. IF you have never been to this place,
it's a must see for any gearhead. Old engines big and small, barn that's a
running museum of engines and equipment. They only do this thing every other
year, and I've been there twice before. It's a ten dollar donation per person,
$25 per family. It runs ten a.m. to four p.m. It's a real down home family
affair, and the museum is a true labor of love. Oh yeah, they fire up most of
the big ones. They have this one huge inline job that runs soooo slow you
won't believe it. Used to power a sawmill up north.  Kid size steam train
running the perimeter of the property. Some years a guy shows up in a Stanley
Steamer touring car and gives rides.
   Petaluma Hill Road south till you come to the corner in Penngrove where the
fire station is located. Then you make the left at the light and go up the
hill almost immediately. 200 Phillips Dr. Penngrove CA.
   I'm going. Anyone else??
                                                      Tom> Date: Mon, 5 May
2008 20:00:41 -0700> From: nobbc at sonic.net> To: nobbc at autox.team.net> Subject:
[Nobbc] May Ride> > Our May ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has
an idea for a > destination, let's hear it. One of the nice things about this
forum is > that we can suggest destinations and events before we actually show
up > so let's get a discussion going.> > My steering wheel is just about
broken through but I was able to get a > new one and should have it installed
tomorrow or Wed.> > Ron> 58 MGA>
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From sand at frii.com  Tue May  6 15:48:53 2008
From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 15:48:53 -0600
Subject: [Nobbc] May-HEY TOM-steve and dee-
References: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net>
	<BLU123-W3795A459BD432B578CF71CD0D60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <001401c8afc2$fa99d180$0200a8c0@stevewbxu6x2qe>

hey tom give a shout-
up here in colorado nowdays-
sand at frii.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Reier" <bluesson at hotmail.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] May Ride =Penngrove Power & Implement Museum


>  Better suggestion yet: Meet at the usual place and time, go to Penngrove 
> via
> the backroads and attend the Penngrove Power & Implement Museum / Tech 
> High
> School Robotics open house fund raiser. IF you have never been to this 
> place,
> it's a must see for any gearhead. Old engines big and small, barn that's a
> running museum of engines and equipment. They only do this thing every 
> other
> year, and I've been there twice before. It's a ten dollar donation per 
> person,
> $25 per family. It runs ten a.m. to four p.m. It's a real down home family
> affair, and the museum is a true labor of love. Oh yeah, they fire up most 
> of
> the big ones. They have this one huge inline job that runs soooo slow you
> won't believe it. Used to power a sawmill up north.  Kid size steam train
> running the perimeter of the property. Some years a guy shows up in a 
> Stanley
> Steamer touring car and gives rides.
>   Petaluma Hill Road south till you come to the corner in Penngrove where 
> the
> fire station is located. Then you make the left at the light and go up the
> hill almost immediately. 200 Phillips Dr. Penngrove CA.
>   I'm going. Anyone else??
>                                                      Tom> Date: Mon, 5 May
> 2008 20:00:41 -0700> From: nobbc at sonic.net> To: nobbc at autox.team.net> 
> Subject:
> [Nobbc] May Ride> > Our May ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone 
> has
> an idea for a > destination, let's hear it. One of the nice things about 
> this
> forum is > that we can suggest destinations and events before we actually 
> show
> up > so let's get a discussion going.> > My steering wheel is just about
> broken through but I was able to get a > new one and should have it 
> installed
> tomorrow or Wed.> > Ron> 58 MGA>
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From haiku99 at gmail.com  Tue May  6 18:11:06 2008
From: haiku99 at gmail.com (Bill Crowe)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 17:11:06 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride =Penngrove Power & Implement Museu
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Hi Tom-
          Sounds great to me, couldn't make the drive last month as my
Birkin died from a failed ball joint....but it has been resurrected and I
plan to be there Saturday.

          Bill

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Tom Reier <bluesson at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Better suggestion yet: Meet at the usual place and time, go to Penngrove
> via
> the backroads and attend the Penngrove Power & Implement Museum / Tech
> High
> School Robotics open house fund raiser. IF you have never been to this
> place,
> it's a must see for any gearhead. Old engines big and small, barn that's a
> running museum of engines and equipment. They only do this thing every
> other
> year, and I've been there twice before. It's a ten dollar donation per
> person,
> $25 per family. It runs ten a.m. to four p.m. It's a real down home family
> affair, and the museum is a true labor of love. Oh yeah, they fire up most
> of
> the big ones. They have this one huge inline job that runs soooo slow you
> won't believe it. Used to power a sawmill up north.  Kid size steam train
> running the perimeter of the property. Some years a guy shows up in a
> Stanley
> Steamer touring car and gives rides.
>   Petaluma Hill Road south till you come to the corner in Penngrove where
> the
> fire station is located. Then you make the left at the light and go up the
> hill almost immediately. 200 Phillips Dr. Penngrove CA.
>   I'm going. Anyone else??
>                                                      Tom> Date: Mon, 5 May
> 2008 20:00:41 -0700> From: nobbc at sonic.net> To: nobbc at autox.team.net>
> Subject:
> [Nobbc] May Ride> > Our May ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone
> has
> an idea for a > destination, let's hear it. One of the nice things about
> this
> forum is > that we can suggest destinations and events before we actually
> show
> up > so let's get a discussion going.> > My steering wheel is just about
> broken through but I was able to get a > new one and should have it
> installed
> tomorrow or Wed.> > Ron> 58 MGA>
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From dawson at authorspublishing.com  Wed May  7 00:13:31 2008
From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 23:13:31 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] club tech project???
In-Reply-To: <001301c8aecc$69483380$0200a8c0@stevewbxu6x2qe>
References: <001301c8aecc$69483380$0200a8c0@stevewbxu6x2qe>
Message-ID: <1ACC5D40-5D96-4DD4-9314-3BA6CC65452F@authorspublishing.com>

OK, this sounds great. I have room in my garage, and there's no time  
pressure, so we could schedule tech sessions to diagnose and (after I  
get the parts required) to fix. I think we should focus on the engine  
and wiring. I can get the carbs and other peripherals rebuilt  
elsewhere easily. But the engine and wiring are very practical for  
other members.

Since I will be getting a lot of value from the club in this form,  
I'll commit to putting together a tech forum / resource list / local  
shop list for the club web site, in return.

Ron, Greg, Steve, others, let me know if you think this is a good plan.

Dawson


On May 5, 2008, at 9:23 AM, Steve Lehmann wrote:

> i would be inclined to belive that w/ the headpower of the clan and  
> a book why
> not somebody come up w/a garage for this engine and do it as a club  
> project
> tech session?
>
> of course head will have to go to a shop.
> (ken-auto life center- yolonda ave)-
> take in crank-rods ect. and have them miced-
> i say it could be a good club project.
> just a thought-
> steve.
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From gtwincams at pacbell.net  Wed May  7 07:00:33 2008
From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 06:00:33 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] club tech project???
In-Reply-To: <1ACC5D40-5D96-4DD4-9314-3BA6CC65452F@authorspublishing.com>
References: <001301c8aecc$69483380$0200a8c0@stevewbxu6x2qe>
	<1ACC5D40-5D96-4DD4-9314-3BA6CC65452F@authorspublishing.com>
Message-ID: <4821A7F1.4020308@pacbell.net>

Dawson, Steve,
I'm afraid the days of having that much free time to completely rebuild 
someone else's engine are long gone for me. It's a nice, altruistic 
idea, but this club has a hard enough time deciding on drive 
destinations - do you want your engine rebuilt by such a committee? You 
will definitely get what you pay for (the term "zero sum" comes to 
mind). It could work with a more structured organization, or in a high 
school auto shop, or if you have a close friend in the club who is 
capable, but I'd be pleasantly surprised to see it work by having a 
series of tech sessions. My gearbox tech session worked because John's a 
friend and you all just watched me take it apart, but it's going to be 
enough work for me to rebuild his gearbox, it takes a back seat to my 
own projects, and he's going to owe me a lot more than putting together 
a resource list for club members...
For a sense of proportion here, Dawson, the engine I'm rebuilding for my 
Lotus has taken me 3 months with parts delays, machine shop backlogs, 
receiving wrong parts, finding new problems, etc., and would cost me 
$8-10,000 from a professional. Even though your MG should not take as 
long or cost as much because it is simpler, you want it done correctly, 
and probably within the next 5 years, I expect.
Just trying to be honest here. If someone else wants to disprove my 
position, please step in.
Cheers,
Greg


 Dawson Church wrote:
> OK, this sounds great. I have room in my garage, and there's no time  
> pressure, so we could schedule tech sessions to diagnose and (after I  
> get the parts required) to fix. I think we should focus on the engine  
> and wiring. I can get the carbs and other peripherals rebuilt  
> elsewhere easily. But the engine and wiring are very practical for  
> other members.
>
> Since I will be getting a lot of value from the club in this form,  
> I'll commit to putting together a tech forum / resource list / local  
> shop list for the club web site, in return.
>
> Ron, Greg, Steve, others, let me know if you think this is a good plan.
>
> Dawson
>
>
> On May 5, 2008, at 9:23 AM, Steve Lehmann wrote:
>
>   
>> i would be inclined to belive that w/ the headpower of the clan and  
>> a book why
>> not somebody come up w/a garage for this engine and do it as a club  
>> project
>> tech session?
>>
>> of course head will have to go to a shop.
>> (ken-auto life center- yolonda ave)-
>> take in crank-rods ect. and have them miced-
>> i say it could be a good club project.
>> just a thought-
>> steve.
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From dawson at authorspublishing.com  Wed May  7 09:07:47 2008
From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 08:07:47 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] club tech project???
In-Reply-To: <4821A7F1.4020308@pacbell.net>
References: <001301c8aecc$69483380$0200a8c0@stevewbxu6x2qe>
	<1ACC5D40-5D96-4DD4-9314-3BA6CC65452F@authorspublishing.com>
	<4821A7F1.4020308@pacbell.net>
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Thanks, Greg, laughing about all the good points you make here!

I'll look at the other options, I've had good feedback on shops that  
could do the rebuild.

I'll keep you posted.

Dawson


On May 7, 2008, at 6:00 AM, gtwincams wrote:

> Dawson, Steve,
> I'm afraid the days of having that much free time to completely  
> rebuild
> someone else's engine are long gone for me. It's a nice, altruistic
> idea, but this club has a hard enough time deciding on drive
> destinations - do you want your engine rebuilt by such a committee?  
> You
> will definitely get what you pay for (the term "zero sum" comes to
> mind). It could work with a more structured organization, or in a high
> school auto shop, or if you have a close friend in the club who is
> capable, but I'd be pleasantly surprised to see it work by having a
> series of tech sessions. My gearbox tech session worked because  
> John's a
> friend and you all just watched me take it apart, but it's going to be
> enough work for me to rebuild his gearbox, it takes a back seat to my
> own projects, and he's going to owe me a lot more than putting  
> together
> a resource list for club members...
> For a sense of proportion here, Dawson, the engine I'm rebuilding  
> for my
> Lotus has taken me 3 months with parts delays, machine shop backlogs,
> receiving wrong parts, finding new problems, etc., and would cost me
> $8-10,000 from a professional. Even though your MG should not take as
> long or cost as much because it is simpler, you want it done  
> correctly,
> and probably within the next 5 years, I expect.
> Just trying to be honest here. If someone else wants to disprove my
> position, please step in.
> Cheers,
> Greg
>
>
> Dawson Church wrote:
>> OK, this sounds great. I have room in my garage, and there's no time
>> pressure, so we could schedule tech sessions to diagnose and (after I
>> get the parts required) to fix. I think we should focus on the engine
>> and wiring. I can get the carbs and other peripherals rebuilt
>> elsewhere easily. But the engine and wiring are very practical for
>> other members.
>>
>> Since I will be getting a lot of value from the club in this form,
>> I'll commit to putting together a tech forum / resource list / local
>> shop list for the club web site, in return.
>>
>> Ron, Greg, Steve, others, let me know if you think this is a good  
>> plan.
>>
>> Dawson
>>
>>
>> On May 5, 2008, at 9:23 AM, Steve Lehmann wrote:
>>
>>
>>> i would be inclined to belive that w/ the headpower of the clan and
>>> a book why
>>> not somebody come up w/a garage for this engine and do it as a club
>>> project
>>> tech session?
>>>
>>> of course head will have to go to a shop.
>>> (ken-auto life center- yolonda ave)-
>>> take in crank-rods ect. and have them miced-
>>> i say it could be a good club project.
>>> just a thought-
>>> steve.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>>
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From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Wed May  7 19:03:02 2008
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (Andy Preston)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 18:03:02 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Need Advice w 1953 MG-TD
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Message-ID: <20080508010238.3BFE8187643@autox.team.net>

Dawson, congratulations on your good buy, many MG guys think that the TD is
the best model.  It sounds as though you want a shop to do everything for
you.  Rebuild the engine and trans and assemble everything.  In that case
you may be limited to shops that are expensive, such as the one used by Gary
Phillips in Corte Madera.  But they are all expensive.  I know Mark
Singleton at British European in Cotati and he has done some work for me.
He is very expensive but does this type of work and is really good.  All the
work he has done for me has been first class, but you pay for it.  $100 for
an oil change for instance.  If you are going to do most of the work
yourself and are looking for an auto machine shop, I highly recommend Norms
Auto Machine Shop on Petaluma Blvd North.  Norms been rebuilding engines for
over 40 years maybe more and does terrific work.  Unfortunately he's busy
all the time and may take a long time to finish your engine.  Depends on how
quickly you want it.  He's prices are reasonable but we won't give you a
quote on work, because he doesn't know how much time and work it will take
until the engine is apart.  I just leave my stuff with him and wait for a
call.  Let us know what you do.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Dawson Church
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 9:31 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Cc: Greg Tatarian
Subject: [Nobbc] Need Advice w 1953 MG-TD

Hi Ron and Greg,

I wound up buying it, Ron, thanks for the tip! Its a good example,  
frame, body and interior are primo. The engine and transmission are  
out, not rebuilt, partially disassembled:

http://picasaweb.google.com/normcay/MGpics?authkey=OwuF6YpwLjQ

Is there a shop in the bay area that can rebuild? The car is in  
Sacramento, the former owner is trailering it out here. I'd rather  
have him unload at the rebuilders, since my garage is bulging at the  
seams.

Or does any charitable club member with acreage have space for the  
body while I have the motor rebuilt?

Any advice is appreciated, for instance, is it important to rebuild  
the old one, rather than just grab an existing rebuilt wherever I can  
find one?

I swear I will have this one on the road in time for club ride this  
year!

Dawson
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From andypreston at sbcglobal.net  Wed May  7 19:06:46 2008
From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (Andy Preston)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 18:06:46 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride
In-Reply-To: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <20080508010621.925A3187643@autox.team.net>

Ron, I'll be at MGs by the Bay car show in San Leandro this Saturday, so
will be unable to join you all.  I have organized a ride for the MG car club
for June 7 so will send you the details soon and hope that many Nobbcers can
join us.

Best wishes Andy
67 MGB

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:01 PM
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride

Our May ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has an idea for a 
destination, let's hear it. One of the nice things about this forum is 
that we can suggest destinations and events before we actually show up 
so let's get a discussion going.

My steering wheel is just about broken through but I was able to get a 
new one and should have it installed tomorrow or Wed.

Ron
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From Cem2col at aol.com  Thu May  8 10:47:10 2008
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Dear British Car drivers:
     Once again Oakmont is hosting an Auto Show on Saturday, May 24 10:00 
a.m. until 1:00 p.m. the Berger Center in Oakmont. Our hosts Jaci and Bob 
Rienecker have asked that we telephone them at 537 0326 to reserve a parking space 
and enable them to prepare printed signs which will include owner's name and car 
information.   
     Space is becoming limited and drivers who do not sign up in time will 
still be welcomed but will be asked to park in the General Parking area away 
from the show area.   Rain cancels.
     For your consideration, I have a contact with a local brewery that would 
host a tour and tasting picnic weekends while the weather is good.   If there 
is sufficient interest, I will get more information regarding available 
dates.

Cheers.

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'53 Sunbeam Alpine
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Our May ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has an idea for a 
destination, let's hear it. One of the nice things about this forum is 
that we can suggest destinations and events before we actually show up 
so let's get a discussion going.

My steering wheel is just about broken through but I was able to get a 
new one and should have it installed tomorrow or Wed.

Ron
58 MGA
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From sand at frii.com  Thu May  8 11:21:44 2008
From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 11:21:44 -0600
Subject: [Nobbc] attn: charles medcalf-
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charles-
did you have a son tom that went to casa grande h.s. aprox-76-80 ?
steve colorado.
nobbc.

From wbain at sonic.net  Thu May  8 11:26:10 2008
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 10:26:10 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride
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Sorry I won't be able to make this one. Too bad as we are now getting
some real sports car weather.
Hope you have your new steering wheel installed by the run.

Cheers,

Wendell
59 Morgan

On May 5, 2008, at 8:00 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote:

> Our May ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has an idea for a
> destination, let's hear it. One of the nice things about this forum is
> that we can suggest destinations and events before we actually show up
> so let's get a discussion going.
>
> My steering wheel is just about broken through but I was able to get a
> new one and should have it installed tomorrow or Wed.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
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From openbigdds at aol.com  Thu May  8 14:09:26 2008
From: openbigdds at aol.com (openbigdds at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 16:09:26 -0400
Subject: [Nobbc] Need Advice w 1953 MG-TD
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wright's brit. auto (clint wirght) in san rafael is who i use and trust for my '53TD. marty rayman


-----Original Message-----
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To: 'North Bay British Car Club' <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Cc: 'Greg Tatarian' <gregtat at pacbell.net>
Sent: Wed, 7 May 2008 6:03 pm
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Need Advice w 1953 MG-TD



Dawson, congratulations on your good buy, many MG guys think that the TD is
the best model.  It sounds as though you want a shop to do everything for
you.  Rebuild the engine and trans and assemble everything.  In that case
you may be limited to shops that are expensive, such as the one used by Gary
Phillips in Corte Madera.  But they are all expensive.  I know Mark
Singleton at British European in Cotati and he has done some work for me.
He is very expensive but does this type of work and is really good.  All the
work he has done for me has been first class, but you pay for it.  $100 for
an oil change for instance.  If you are going to do most of the work
yourself and are looking for an auto machine shop, I highly recommend Norms
Auto Machine Shop on Petaluma Blvd North.  Norms been rebuilding engines for
over 40 years maybe more and does terrific work.  Unfortunately he's busy
all the time and may take a long time to finish your engine.  Depends on how
quickly you want it.  He's prices are reasonable but we won't give you a
quote on work, because he doesn't know how much time and work it will take
until the engine is apart.  I just leave my stuff with him and wait for a
call.  Let us know what you do.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Dawson Church
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 9:31 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Cc: Greg Tatarian
Subject: [Nobbc] Need Advice w 1953 MG-TD

Hi Ron and Greg,

I wound up buying it, Ron, thanks for the tip! Its a good example,  
frame, body and interior are primo. The engine and transmission are  
out, not rebuilt, partially disassembled:

http://picasaweb.google.com/normcay/MGpics?authkey=OwuF6YpwLjQ

Is there a shop in the bay area that can rebuild? The car is in  
Sacramento, the former owner is trailering it out here. I'd rather  
have him unload at the rebuilders, since my garage is bulging at the  
seams.

Or does any charitable club member with acreage have space for the  
body while I have the motor rebuilt?

Any advice is appreciated, for instance, is it important to rebuild  
the old one, rather than just grab an existing rebuilt wherever I can  
find one?

I swear I will have this one on the road in time for club ride this  
year!

Dawson
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From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com  Thu May  8 15:49:05 2008
From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 14:49:05 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride
Message-ID: <BAY140-DS57790279DD50CAD3606FD9FD00@phx.gbl>

All,

I am unfortunately pre-committed for a do down the Peninsula with the wife
this Saturday and so will still be eagerly awaiting my maiden outing with the
NOBBC!

Regards,

Norm Weinfeld
'55 XK140 DHC
San Francisco

P.S. Am informed that my car photos will be posted on the website soon.

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From Cem2col at aol.com  Thu May  8 17:03:33 2008
From: Cem2col at aol.com (Cem2col at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 19:03:33 EDT
Subject: [Nobbc] attn: charles medcalf-
Message-ID: <bf8.2ca07fac.3554e0c5@aol.com>

Dear Steve:
     No, I do not have a son Tom or any son, but two daughters and four 
grandchildren. I would like to be in touch with people with my surname MeDcalf as I 
have no known actual relatives with my name. I will respond if Tom would like 
to explore genealogy.   
     Many thanks for your interest.

Cheers;

Charles Medcalf


**************
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twists on family favorites at AOL Food.
      
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From liamof at earthlink.net  Thu May  8 18:38:23 2008
From: liamof at earthlink.net (liam oflaherty)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 17:38:23 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride
Message-ID: <005101c8b16c$fd4570f0$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21>

Hi guys and gals,
Just wanted to weigh in on the may ride.  Sorry won't be able to make it since
I will be down the penninsula in San Carlos this saturday with my mga.
Yes, please try to schedule a marin ride!  Donut Shop in Novato on Redwood is
down the street from me and would be a great meeting place. (Starbucks and
traders joes accross the street).  Point Reyes Bear Valley visitor center is
also a good lunch spot and then possibily a ride out to Drakes Beach (Nuevo
Albion). I agree that bicycle riders also love the back roads of marin but
let's not let that stop us.  Last saturday I road my bike to Point Reyes and
had a 18 car porsche club pass me.
Now that my mga is running with out problems (knock on wood) I will try to
meet up with you guys on the June ride where ever you have it.
Liam
57 mga

From FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET  Thu May  8 18:45:14 2008
From: FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET (JULIA KENNER)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 17:45:14 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride
In-Reply-To: <F13BFEC9-2EB3-463E-B45B-0090CCEEF911@sonic.net>
References: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net>
	<F13BFEC9-2EB3-463E-B45B-0090CCEEF911@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <002801c8b16d$f26b0270$d7410750$@NET>

What time does the ride start on Saturday?

John


-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of wendell bain
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:26 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] May Ride

Sorry I won't be able to make this one. Too bad as we are now getting
some real sports car weather.
Hope you have your new steering wheel installed by the run.

Cheers,

Wendell
59 Morgan

On May 5, 2008, at 8:00 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote:

> Our May ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has an idea for a
> destination, let's hear it. One of the nice things about this forum is
> that we can suggest destinations and events before we actually show up
> so let's get a discussion going.
>
> My steering wheel is just about broken through but I was able to get a
> new one and should have it installed tomorrow or Wed.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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From riprock99 at comcast.net  Thu May  8 19:16:00 2008
From: riprock99 at comcast.net (Scott Irwin)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 18:16:00 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride
References: <005101c8b16c$fd4570f0$2101a8c0@DFBQSM21>
Message-ID: <2B9A16010C4E46B1987E983C7E95488A@budda>

Yes, Scott in San Rafael would like that too if he can ever be free to ride 
again.  As far as Point Reyes goes there's also the road up to Mt Vision. 
Great view but slow almost single lane twisty.  Good for photo shoots.

Scott


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "liam oflaherty" <liamof at earthlink.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 5:38 PM
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride


> Hi guys and gals,
> Just wanted to weigh in on the may ride.  Sorry won't be able to make it 
> since
> I will be down the penninsula in San Carlos this saturday with my mga.
> Yes, please try to schedule a marin ride!  Donut Shop in Novato on Redwood 
> is
> down the street from me and would be a great meeting place. (Starbucks and
> traders joes accross the street).  Point Reyes Bear Valley visitor center 
> is
> also a good lunch spot and then possibily a ride out to Drakes Beach 
> (Nuevo
> Albion). I agree that bicycle riders also love the back roads of marin but
> let's not let that stop us.  Last saturday I road my bike to Point Reyes 
> and
> had a 18 car porsche club pass me.
> Now that my mga is running with out problems (knock on wood) I will try to
> meet up with you guys on the June ride where ever you have it.
> Liam
> 57 mga
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From nobbc at sonic.net  Thu May  8 19:39:23 2008
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 18:39:23 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride
In-Reply-To: <002801c8b16d$f26b0270$d7410750$@NET>
References: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net>
	<F13BFEC9-2EB3-463E-B45B-0090CCEEF911@sonic.net>
	<002801c8b16d$f26b0270$d7410750$@NET>
Message-ID: <4823AB4B.1020308@sonic.net>

It's scheduled for 11 AM John.

JULIA KENNER wrote:
> What time does the ride start on Saturday?
> 
> John
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of wendell bain
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:26 AM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] May Ride
> 
> Sorry I won't be able to make this one. Too bad as we are now getting
> some real sports car weather.
> Hope you have your new steering wheel installed by the run.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Wendell
> 59 Morgan
> 
> On May 5, 2008, at 8:00 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote:
> 
> 
>>Our May ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has an idea for a
>>destination, let's hear it. One of the nice things about this forum is
>>that we can suggest destinations and events before we actually show up
>>so let's get a discussion going.
>>
>>My steering wheel is just about broken through but I was able to get a
>>new one and should have it installed tomorrow or Wed.
>>
>>Ron
>>58 MGA
>>_______________________________________________
>>Nobbc mailing list
>>Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
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From haiku99 at gmail.com  Sun May 11 22:08:16 2008
From: haiku99 at gmail.com (Bill Crowe)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 21:08:16 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride
In-Reply-To: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net>
References: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <188b620b0805112108p68c2d2bfv9d4233a776cd7ff0@mail.gmail.com>

Thoroughly enjoyed the drive and meeting  some club members.  Did some web
research today and found that 3 out of 4 of my shocks had waaay too much
preload, fixed that today and the car is completely transformed....will have
a easier time keeping up next time, it never felt right until now and the
drive confirmed that it wasn't handling right.  Anyway, looking forward to
next time, and FWIW in the meantime there is a most excellent race video at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEy9QEyIAqk
this guy had his starter fail on the grid at Spa, bump started the car and
worked his way through a large pack, pretty thrilling...
       bill

On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Ron Engelhardt <nobbc at sonic.net> wrote:

> Our May ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has an idea for a
> destination, let's hear it. One of the nice things about this forum is
> that we can suggest destinations and events before we actually show up
> so let's get a discussion going.
>
> My steering wheel is just about broken through but I was able to get a
> new one and should have it installed tomorrow or Wed.
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From nobbc at sonic.net  Mon May 12 00:36:53 2008
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 23:36:53 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride
In-Reply-To: <188b620b0805112108p68c2d2bfv9d4233a776cd7ff0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net>
	<188b620b0805112108p68c2d2bfv9d4233a776cd7ff0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4827E585.3080508@sonic.net>

It was nice meeting you too Bill. Glad you were able to work out the 
handling kinks on our Nobbc Sonoma County proving ground roads.

Ron
58 MGA

Bill Crowe wrote:
> Thoroughly enjoyed the drive and meeting  some club members.  Did some web
> research today and found that 3 out of 4 of my shocks had waaay too much
> preload, fixed that today and the car is completely transformed....will have
> a easier time keeping up next time, it never felt right until now and the
> drive confirmed that it wasn't handling right.  Anyway, looking forward to
> next time, and FWIW in the meantime there is a most excellent race video at
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEy9QEyIAqk
> this guy had his starter fail on the grid at Spa, bump started the car and
> worked his way through a large pack, pretty thrilling...
>        bill

From gtwincams at pacbell.net  Mon May 12 07:18:51 2008
From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 06:18:51 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride
In-Reply-To: <188b620b0805112108p68c2d2bfv9d4233a776cd7ff0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net>
	<188b620b0805112108p68c2d2bfv9d4233a776cd7ff0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <482843BB.7050708@pacbell.net>

Hi Bill,
It was nice meeting you and your Birkin - thanks for the comments, and 
glad to hear you were able to dial in the suspension. Our club drives 
have been instrumental in helping me fine tune each of our cars.
When I find the link I'll post the gymkhana video link to complement the 
one you posted - members will get a kick out of what can be done with a 
car in a tight course in relatively slow speeds. Amazing.
Bill, could you send me a PM with more info on finding the Birkin list 
so I can investigate tracking down some seats?
Cheers,
Greg

Bill Crowe wrote:
> Thoroughly enjoyed the drive and meeting  some club members.  Did some web
> research today and found that 3 out of 4 of my shocks had waaay too much
> preload, fixed that today and the car is completely transformed....will have
> a easier time keeping up next time, it never felt right until now and the
> drive confirmed that it wasn't handling right.  Anyway, looking forward to
> next time, and FWIW in the meantime there is a most excellent race video at
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEy9QEyIAqk
> this guy had his starter fail on the grid at Spa, bump started the car and
> worked his way through a large pack, pretty thrilling...
>        bill
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Ron Engelhardt <nobbc at sonic.net> wrote:

From wbain at sonic.net  Mon May 12 14:25:13 2008
From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 13:25:13 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride
In-Reply-To: <188b620b0805112108p68c2d2bfv9d4233a776cd7ff0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net>
	<188b620b0805112108p68c2d2bfv9d4233a776cd7ff0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <36EA2126-89C6-497E-9FA0-D1C782584723@sonic.net>

Bill,
Great video of an Incredible Lotus/Caterham at Spa. Great footage.
Makes you wonder how legal this car is, although well driven
especially on the brakes. I know La Source hairpin down to Eau Rouge,
but have forgotten some of the other turns except for the relatively
new Bus Stop Chicane. Would love to drive this track sometime.
Thanks for sharing.

Cheers,
Wendell Bain
59 Morgan

On May 11, 2008, at 9:08 PM, Bill Crowe wrote:

> Thoroughly enjoyed the drive and meeting  some club members.  Did  
> some web
> research today and found that 3 out of 4 of my shocks had waaay too  
> much
> preload, fixed that today and the car is completely  
> transformed....will have
> a easier time keeping up next time, it never felt right until now  
> and the
> drive confirmed that it wasn't handling right.  Anyway, looking  
> forward to
> next time, and FWIW in the meantime there is a most excellent race  
> video at
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEy9QEyIAqk
> this guy had his starter fail on the grid at Spa, bump started the  
> car and
> worked his way through a large pack, pretty thrilling...
>        bill
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Ron Engelhardt <nobbc at sonic.net>  
> wrote:
>
>> Our May ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has an idea  
>> for a
>> destination, let's hear it. One of the nice things about this  
>> forum is
>> that we can suggest destinations and events before we actually  
>> show up
>> so let's get a discussion going.
>>
>> My steering wheel is just about broken through but I was able to  
>> get a
>> new one and should have it installed tomorrow or Wed.
>>
>> Ron
>> 58 MGA
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From riprock99 at comcast.net  Mon May 12 19:25:46 2008
From: riprock99 at comcast.net (Scott Irwin)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 18:25:46 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] May Ride
References: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net><188b620b0805112108p68c2d2bfv9d4233a776cd7ff0@mail.gmail.com>
	<36EA2126-89C6-497E-9FA0-D1C782584723@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <08F1021008BD4A41AF427C798D76BC23@budda>

I miss the old Spa with the very long straights.  Used to be 8.76 miles 
long.

Scott


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "wendell bain" <wbain at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] May Ride


> Bill,
> Great video of an Incredible Lotus/Caterham at Spa. Great footage.
> Makes you wonder how legal this car is, although well driven
> especially on the brakes. I know La Source hairpin down to Eau Rouge,
> but have forgotten some of the other turns except for the relatively
> new Bus Stop Chicane. Would love to drive this track sometime.
> Thanks for sharing.
>
> Cheers,
> Wendell Bain
> 59 Morgan
>
> On May 11, 2008, at 9:08 PM, Bill Crowe wrote:
>
>> Thoroughly enjoyed the drive and meeting  some club members.  Did
>> some web
>> research today and found that 3 out of 4 of my shocks had waaay too
>> much
>> preload, fixed that today and the car is completely
>> transformed....will have
>> a easier time keeping up next time, it never felt right until now
>> and the
>> drive confirmed that it wasn't handling right.  Anyway, looking
>> forward to
>> next time, and FWIW in the meantime there is a most excellent race
>> video at
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEy9QEyIAqk
>> this guy had his starter fail on the grid at Spa, bump started the
>> car and
>> worked his way through a large pack, pretty thrilling...
>>        bill
>>
>> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Ron Engelhardt <nobbc at sonic.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Our May ride will be this coming Saturday. If anyone has an idea
>>> for a
>>> destination, let's hear it. One of the nice things about this
>>> forum is
>>> that we can suggest destinations and events before we actually
>>> show up
>>> so let's get a discussion going.
>>>
>>> My steering wheel is just about broken through but I was able to
>>> get a
>>> new one and should have it installed tomorrow or Wed.
>>>
>>> Ron
>>> 58 MGA
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nobbc mailing list
>>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From don at napanet.net  Sat May 17 20:13:20 2008
From: don at napanet.net (don)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 18:13:20 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] Woodland show
In-Reply-To: <36EA2126-89C6-497E-9FA0-D1C782584723@sonic.net>
References: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net>
	<188b620b0805112108p68c2d2bfv9d4233a776cd7ff0@mail.gmail.com>
	<36EA2126-89C6-497E-9FA0-D1C782584723@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.1.20080517180846.0320bdd8@pop.napanet.net>

>I am planning to go to the car show tomorrow, in my Miata!    However, if 
>there is anyone that I could catch a ride with that is planning to arrive 
>early (8 a.m or so) and leave around 11 am or so, I'd be glad to pay for 
>petrol.  Times are approximate; just trying to miss extreme heat.  As far 
>as logistics, I live in Calistoga.

Don Scott
942 0546


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From sand at frii.com  Sun May 18 05:40:13 2008
From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 05:40:13 -0600
Subject: [Nobbc] for you miata guys---have a look.
Message-ID: <FF453BFF738849D1A2625246868C787B@stevewbxu6x2qe>

ran into an interesting gent in windover nv.on way back from cali.
he was trailering what i thought was a briklin or lotus-
turned out to be a westlin.
bill is in grand jct. colo.-runs a shop called flyinmiata.
you may want to have a look.
www.flyinmiata.com.

it is running miata running gear and suspeshion components-
(i think that,s right)
needles to say i tryed to get bill to get it into glenwood rally-
maybe next year.......

From haiku99 at gmail.com  Sun May 18 08:04:11 2008
From: haiku99 at gmail.com (Bill Crowe)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 07:04:11 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] for you miata guys---have a look.
In-Reply-To: <FF453BFF738849D1A2625246868C787B@stevewbxu6x2qe>
References: <FF453BFF738849D1A2625246868C787B@stevewbxu6x2qe>
Message-ID: <188b620b0805180704l99e2debuf62ac820f7f73789@mail.gmail.com>

FWIW Miata driveline is also often used for Locost (scratch built Seven)
builds, Keith Tanner wrote a book on this and has an interesting web site at
http://www.cheapsportscar.net/

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 4:40 AM, Steve Lehmann <sand at frii.com> wrote:

> ran into an interesting gent in windover nv.on way back from cali.
> he was trailering what i thought was a briklin or lotus-
> turned out to be a westlin.
> bill is in grand jct. colo.-runs a shop called flyinmiata.
> you may want to have a look.
> www.flyinmiata.com.
>
> it is running miata running gear and suspeshion components-
> (i think that,s right)
> needles to say i tryed to get bill to get it into glenwood rally-
> maybe next year.......
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From sand at frii.com  Fri May 23 06:18:42 2008
From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 06:18:42 -0600
Subject: [Nobbc] msn news twister colorado.
Message-ID: <44EAB0098BAF4A8C82A022EC660068A8@stevewbxu6x2qe>

that msn footage of the big twister was at the intersection of hwy 34 and hwy
25,
they say near greeley colo.
well that corner is LOVELAND not greeley-
it,s also abought 5 miles from here.
windsor is abought 10 miles-
we dodged a bullit here.
did drop a few limbs from my big tree.
but all good here.

From sand at frii.com  Sat May 24 14:07:24 2008
From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 14:07:24 -0600
Subject: [Nobbc] nice tr4-a for sale
Message-ID: <1C30E3F0D49B45ECA65C1107D82F769B@stevewbxu6x2qe>

guys it,s time for me to part w/my tr4-a
the car is in loveland co.
it,s a fresh tight car-
a pic of the car is on the cover of nobbc website last i looked (steve
lehmann-glenwood)

PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS BEFORE WENSDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

guys my days are #ed -my wife will be informed tue afternoon by the cancer
counclers in my presence.
so please no replys befor wensday-

i am going to ask 15,000
the car is very near complete-
a day of e-z messing could turn this car into a a show winner.
reply AFTER WENSDAY!!!
i can send all the close up photos you want e-mail.
i think tch still has a link to me,
dees home got to go----

From sand at frii.com  Sat May 24 14:59:03 2008
From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 14:59:03 -0600
Subject: [Nobbc] steve continued-dees taking a nap-tr4-a
Message-ID: <43E4780FAD084E57A48C723BE22DEFE5@stevewbxu6x2qe>

sorrry guys dee knows nothing yet-
guys here what im trying to do-

i have 5 grand in med co-pays racked up in 3 weeks that this all stared-
there will be no more med bills ran up cause there is nothing to do but wait
for the end to arrive-
i need to draft a will-pay these bills and my final expences-and finish up the
new house (very close)
the house does need to be re-roofed in the next few years so im gonna sell the
car to do the roof and what i just mentioned-
dee will be left w/a nice house and should have to do nothing w/it for years
to come-
w/some good luck i will have a few grand left over to take a vacation (alone)
to some far away place where the asian girls come cheep and e-z
why not?
wife to know nothing-
dont need to worry of aids im a dead man anyway-(go ahead and laff-)
so that,s it guys,like i said no replys before wens!!!!!!!
(in case dee is looking over my shoulder)
love you all .
im not going to write a long ending-
i want smiles going out-
ron,dean,and joe a. have had the heads up on this for abought 2 weeks-
this weekend is dee and my 6th anniversary and im having a hard time keeping
this under wraps-
shes gonna lose it when she finds out tuesday.
2 last things guys-
well make it one i just forgot the other-
teach your kids abought smoking-please.
if your a smoker hang em up-
guys that dont know me im 46 years old-
docs say 6 mos-12 mos at best-
it aint the drinkin docs say-
that leaves one thing.

From FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET  Thu May 29 15:01:01 2008
From: FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET (JULIA KENNER)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 14:01:01 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] june
In-Reply-To: <4827E585.3080508@sonic.net>
References: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net>
	<188b620b0805112108p68c2d2bfv9d4233a776cd7ff0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4827E585.3080508@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <000901c8c1cf$1a7addf0$4f7099d0$@NET>

HEY RON,

WHAT'S THE JUNE RIDE SCHEDULE?

THANKS,

JOHN KENNER

From nobbc at sonic.net  Thu May 29 19:58:52 2008
From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 18:58:52 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] june
In-Reply-To: <000901c8c1cf$1a7addf0$4f7099d0$@NET>
References: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net>
	<188b620b0805112108p68c2d2bfv9d4233a776cd7ff0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4827E585.3080508@sonic.net> <000901c8c1cf$1a7addf0$4f7099d0$@NET>
Message-ID: <483F5F5C.5010007@sonic.net>

Well, I think we need to start a discussion to figure that out. Is it 
time to start our two rides per month starting at 10 AM? Or should we 
have one ride (gas IS expensive!) and start earlier? Does anyone have a 
ride destination they would like to share with the club? Anyone in Marin 
want to lead a ride there? What do my fellow club members want to do? 
Speak up and be heard...this is our equivalent of a club meeting so 
let's hear from all of you and get some kind of concensus. Personally, 
I'm ready for two rides but I would like someone else to lead for a change!

Ron
58 MGA

JULIA KENNER wrote:
> HEY RON,
> 
> WHAT'S THE JUNE RIDE SCHEDULE?
> 
> THANKS,
> 
> JOHN KENNER
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET  Thu May 29 20:38:06 2008
From: FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET (JULIA KENNER)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 19:38:06 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] june
In-Reply-To: <483F5F5C.5010007@sonic.net>
References: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net>
	<188b620b0805112108p68c2d2bfv9d4233a776cd7ff0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4827E585.3080508@sonic.net> <000901c8c1cf$1a7addf0$4f7099d0$@NET>
	<483F5F5C.5010007@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <000301c8c1fe$331cab70$99560250$@NET>

I'M NOT SHY.

LET'S GO TO 2 RIDES, AFTER ALL ITS SUMMER.

GAS IS STILL A BARGAIN IN OUR CARS IF YOU FIGURE IN THE FUN FACTOR!!!!!!!!

JOHN KENNER

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:59 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] june

Well, I think we need to start a discussion to figure that out. Is it 
time to start our two rides per month starting at 10 AM? Or should we 
have one ride (gas IS expensive!) and start earlier? Does anyone have a 
ride destination they would like to share with the club? Anyone in Marin 
want to lead a ride there? What do my fellow club members want to do? 
Speak up and be heard...this is our equivalent of a club meeting so 
let's hear from all of you and get some kind of concensus. Personally, 
I'm ready for two rides but I would like someone else to lead for a change!

Ron
58 MGA

JULIA KENNER wrote:
> HEY RON,
> 
> WHAT'S THE JUNE RIDE SCHEDULE?
> 
> THANKS,
> 
> JOHN KENNER
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From gtwincams at pacbell.net  Thu May 29 21:27:58 2008
From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:27:58 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] june
In-Reply-To: <000301c8c1fe$331cab70$99560250$@NET>
References: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net>
	<188b620b0805112108p68c2d2bfv9d4233a776cd7ff0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4827E585.3080508@sonic.net> <000901c8c1cf$1a7addf0$4f7099d0$@NET>
	<483F5F5C.5010007@sonic.net> <000301c8c1fe$331cab70$99560250$@NET>
Message-ID: <483F743E.5080508@pacbell.net>

Hi Group,
The beauty of two drives a month is that it gives one a choice - attend 
one or the other, or both! Of course, if Ron wants to take a break from 
leading each and every drive, we should pitch in to organize. That would 
give him a break from the gasoline expense as well.
I'm in the last stretches of a total mechanical rebuild on the Lotus, 
and expect to spend this weekend finishing it up, so hopefully can make 
the next drive.
Cheers,
Greg

From riprock99 at comcast.net  Thu May 29 22:44:08 2008
From: riprock99 at comcast.net (Scott Irwin)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:44:08 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] june
References: <481FC9D9.3000903@sonic.net><188b620b0805112108p68c2d2bfv9d4233a776cd7ff0@mail.gmail.com><4827E585.3080508@sonic.net>
	<000901c8c1cf$1a7addf0$4f7099d0$@NET> <483F5F5C.5010007@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <A1B6718B38F141E58248D73E01E13C16@budda>

Hi Ron and all,
  I feel like a retiree, but the simple fact is I can never reserve my time 
for the drives and every desire is thwarted by the reality I've created for 
myself.  Awww...  Well, not that bad, I just can't seem to make the time I'm 
free match up.  I even had to no show at the Woodland All British Show.

Scott, '
65 Spitfire


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] june


> Well, I think we need to start a discussion to figure that out. Is it
> time to start our two rides per month starting at 10 AM? Or should we
> have one ride (gas IS expensive!) and start earlier? Does anyone have a
> ride destination they would like to share with the club? Anyone in Marin
> want to lead a ride there? What do my fellow club members want to do?
> Speak up and be heard...this is our equivalent of a club meeting so
> let's hear from all of you and get some kind of concensus. Personally,
> I'm ready for two rides but I would like someone else to lead for a 
> change!
>
> Ron
> 58 MGA
>
> JULIA KENNER wrote:
>> HEY RON,
>>
>> WHAT'S THE JUNE RIDE SCHEDULE?
>>
>> THANKS,
>>
>> JOHN KENNER
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nobbc mailing list
>> Nobbc at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From don at napanet.net  Thu May 29 22:49:05 2008
From: don at napanet.net (don)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:49:05 -0800
Subject: [Nobbc] nice tr4-a for sale
In-Reply-To: <1C30E3F0D49B45ECA65C1107D82F769B@stevewbxu6x2qe>
References: <1C30E3F0D49B45ECA65C1107D82F769B@stevewbxu6x2qe>
Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.1.20080529204834.034ced98@pop.napanet.net>

Steve,
I might be interested in the Triumph.  Can you give me a few details on 
it?  Thanks!
Don


At 12:07 PM 05/24/2008, you wrote:

>guys it,s time for me to part w/my tr4-a
>the car is in loveland co.
>it,s a fresh tight car-
>a pic of the car is on the cover of nobbc website last i looked (steve
>lehmann-glenwood)
>
>PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS BEFORE WENSDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>guys my days are #ed -my wife will be informed tue afternoon by the cancer
>counclers in my presence.
>so please no replys befor wensday-
>
>i am going to ask 15,000
>the car is very near complete-
>a day of e-z messing could turn this car into a a show winner.
>reply AFTER WENSDAY!!!
>i can send all the close up photos you want e-mail.
>i think tch still has a link to me,
>dees home got to go----
>_______________________________________________
>Nobbc mailing list
>Nobbc at autox.team.net
>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>
>
>
>
>--
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>Checked by AVG.
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>05/23/2008 3:36 PM


-- 
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From sand at frii.com  Fri May 30 05:53:20 2008
From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 05:53:20 -0600
Subject: [Nobbc] nice tr4-a for sale
References: <1C30E3F0D49B45ECA65C1107D82F769B@stevewbxu6x2qe>
	<6.0.3.0.1.20080529204834.034ced98@pop.napanet.net>
Message-ID: <3E58590751E142B38E715CD46E08AB7E@stevewbxu6x2qe>

shure-
just let me know what info you want-
and realise the car is in loveland co.-
(50 miles north of denver)
tcheeric may have a few pis of the car and a listing under cars for sale on 
the nobbc club website-
www.nobbc.com
tell you what-
give me your tele # and a good time to call you,
we can chat----

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "don" <don at napanet.net>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] nice tr4-a for sale


> Steve,
> I might be interested in the Triumph.  Can you give me a few details on
> it?  Thanks!
> Don
>
>
> At 12:07 PM 05/24/2008, you wrote:
>
>>guys it,s time for me to part w/my tr4-a
>>the car is in loveland co.
>>it,s a fresh tight car-
>>a pic of the car is on the cover of nobbc website last i looked (steve
>>lehmann-glenwood)
>>
>>PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS BEFORE WENSDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>guys my days are #ed -my wife will be informed tue afternoon by the cancer
>>counclers in my presence.
>>so please no replys befor wensday-
>>
>>i am going to ask 15,000
>>the car is very near complete-
>>a day of e-z messing could turn this car into a a show winner.
>>reply AFTER WENSDAY!!!
>>i can send all the close up photos you want e-mail.
>>i think tch still has a link to me,
>>dees home got to go----
>>_______________________________________________
>>Nobbc mailing list
>>Nobbc at autox.team.net
>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>No virus found in this incoming message.
>>Checked by AVG.
>>Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1463 - Release Date:
>>05/23/2008 3:36 PM
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> Checked by AVG.
> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1473 - Release Date: 
> 05/29/2008 7:53 PM
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc 

From sand at frii.com  Fri May 30 06:16:07 2008
From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 06:16:07 -0600
Subject: [Nobbc] vote 2 rides-
Message-ID: <E6965EB86F484D29874E959F37659C06@stevewbxu6x2qe>

go w/2nd sat-4th sun.
just like it used to be.

also keep in mind first weekend in august for the 7th anniversary
ride!!!!!!!!
(man,time flys)-
going to have to do that one up bigtime!!!

and yes somebody needs to lead sooner or later and give uncle ron a break!!!

cheers folks
steve.

From tkamstra at sonic.net  Fri May 30 07:16:47 2008
From: tkamstra at sonic.net (Tcherek Kamstra)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 06:16:47 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] nice tr4-a for sale
In-Reply-To: <3E58590751E142B38E715CD46E08AB7E@stevewbxu6x2qe>
References: <1C30E3F0D49B45ECA65C1107D82F769B@stevewbxu6x2qe>
	<6.0.3.0.1.20080529204834.034ced98@pop.napanet.net>
	<3E58590751E142B38E715CD46E08AB7E@stevewbxu6x2qe>
Message-ID: <a05200f00c465ae922230@[192.168.2.100]>

I will have pics of Steve's car up on the site later today.

-Tch


>shure-
>just let me know what info you want-
>and realise the car is in loveland co.-
>(50 miles north of denver)
>tcheeric may have a few pis of the car and a listing under cars for sale on
>the nobbc club website-
>www.nobbc.com
>tell you what-
>give me your tele # and a good time to call you,
>we can chat----

From sand at frii.com  Fri May 30 08:15:50 2008
From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 08:15:50 -0600
Subject: [Nobbc] wedding annoncement-
Message-ID: <01726730863B4E1297997AE20EF8DE96@stevewbxu6x2qe>

after 6 years dee and I will be getting hitched-

(lawman says a good move to make for many reasons)

12:00 noon-
4th of july 2008

where?

in our driveway!!!

party to follow-
everbody welcome-

From gphillips at slpcpa.com  Fri May 30 08:45:48 2008
From: gphillips at slpcpa.com (=?utf-8?B?R2FyeSBQaGlsbGlwcw==?=)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 14:45:48 +0000
Subject: [Nobbc] nice tr4-a for sale
In-Reply-To: <1C30E3F0D49B45ECA65C1107D82F769B@stevewbxu6x2qe>
References: <1C30E3F0D49B45ECA65C1107D82F769B@stevewbxu6x2qe>
Message-ID: <mailman.3.1212158814.1197.nobbc@autox.team.net>

Steve 

I have a TR 6 that I might be interested in matching up with your TR4.  Can you give me some details on the drive train and some additional pictures?  Thanks.

Gary Phillips
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: "Steve Lehmann" <sand at frii.com>

Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 14:07:24 
To:"North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Nobbc] nice tr4-a for sale


guys it,s time for me to part w/my tr4-a
the car is in loveland co.
it,s a fresh tight car-
a pic of the car is on the cover of nobbc website last i looked (steve
lehmann-glenwood)

PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS BEFORE WENSDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

guys my days are #ed -my wife will be informed tue afternoon by the cancer
counclers in my presence.
so please no replys befor wensday-

i am going to ask 15,000
the car is very near complete-
a day of e-z messing could turn this car into a a show winner.
reply AFTER WENSDAY!!!
i can send all the close up photos you want e-mail.
i think tch still has a link to me,
dees home got to go----
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From DPaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us  Fri May 30 09:10:42 2008
From: DPaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us (Paige, Dean)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 08:10:42 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] june
In-Reply-To: <000301c8c1fe$331cab70$99560250$@NET>
Message-ID: <38EB329C843ED444A8CF05627CC4BFA612B6AD@mail2.sr.local>

Ron

I agree with John. 100 miles of motoring at 25 mpg = $16 or thereabouts.
I think I can afford that. I will be trying to make both rides this
month. But who the hell knows. Stuff happens.

The Virgin Islands were as always a great experience. Pia and I had a
blast. Living in my own place down there for the first time was
exciting. We repainted just about the entire interior of the condo,
bought some new furniture, TV, sound system and hung some new art work
as well as doing a bit of preventative maintenance. And, we still had
plenty of time for snorkeling, exploring, island hopping and thoroughly
enjoying more than a dram of rum. It was tough coming back until I laid
eyes on our beautiful home here again. Where to be? USVI?...Sonoma
County?...tough choice! Thankfully I don't have to choose one or the
other, just arrange time every year to enjoy both. I am pining for
retirement. Doing a seminar in June to figure out if I can afford it
yet. Oh please, please.

Deano

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of JULIA KENNER
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:38 PM
To: 'North Bay British Car Club'
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] june

I'M NOT SHY.

LET'S GO TO 2 RIDES, AFTER ALL ITS SUMMER.

GAS IS STILL A BARGAIN IN OUR CARS IF YOU FIGURE IN THE FUN
FACTOR!!!!!!!!

JOHN KENNER

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:59 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] june

Well, I think we need to start a discussion to figure that out. Is it
time to start our two rides per month starting at 10 AM? Or should we
have one ride (gas IS expensive!) and start earlier? Does anyone have a
ride destination they would like to share with the club? Anyone in Marin
want to lead a ride there? What do my fellow club members want to do?
Speak up and be heard...this is our equivalent of a club meeting so
let's hear from all of you and get some kind of concensus. Personally,
I'm ready for two rides but I would like someone else to lead for a
change!

Ron
58 MGA

JULIA KENNER wrote:
> HEY RON,
>
> WHAT'S THE JUNE RIDE SCHEDULE?
>
> THANKS,
>
> JOHN KENNER
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc
_______________________________________________
Nobbc mailing list
Nobbc at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From tkamstra at sonic.net  Fri May 30 12:16:54 2008
From: tkamstra at sonic.net (Tcherek Kamstra)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:16:54 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] nice tr4-a for sale
In-Reply-To: <a05200f00c465ae922230@[192.168.2.100]>
References: <1C30E3F0D49B45ECA65C1107D82F769B@stevewbxu6x2qe>
	<6.0.3.0.1.20080529204834.034ced98@pop.napanet.net>
	<3E58590751E142B38E715CD46E08AB7E@stevewbxu6x2qe>
	<a05200f00c465ae922230@[192.168.2.100]>
Message-ID: <a05200f02c465f506ab3c@[192.168.2.100]>

Photos of Steve's car are now on line at:
http://www.nobbc.com/autosforsale.html

From sand at frii.com  Fri May 30 17:27:37 2008
From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:27:37 -0600
Subject: [Nobbc] steve,s tr inquireies-go direct-
Message-ID: <335888D6421A469F9FE4E2786C524FC9@stevewbxu6x2qe>

hey guys-
thanks for the q-s
i will get to all of you-
HOWEVER!!!!!
use my e-mail direct-
do not overload the clubs (this) form!!!!
tx-
steve-
would the 3 folks that sent e-mail in this subject please remail your Q,s to
me direct
THANK YOU!!!
THANK YOU ALSO TCH!!!!
sand at frii.com
970-613-8628

From riprock99 at comcast.net  Fri May 30 23:38:54 2008
From: riprock99 at comcast.net (Scott Irwin)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 22:38:54 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] wedding annoncement-
References: <01726730863B4E1297997AE20EF8DE96@stevewbxu6x2qe>
Message-ID: <33C3FA1D5FCF43C3A60516E0173F4A87@budda>

That's great!

All my best,
Scott
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Lehmann" <sand at frii.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 7:15 AM
Subject: [Nobbc] wedding annoncement-


> after 6 years dee and I will be getting hitched-
> 
> (lawman says a good move to make for many reasons)
> 
> 12:00 noon-
> 4th of july 2008
> 
> where?
> 
> in our driveway!!!
> 
> party to follow-
> everbody welcome-
> _______________________________________________
> Nobbc mailing list
> Nobbc at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc

From FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET  Sat May 31 08:39:58 2008
From: FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET (JULIA KENNER)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 07:39:58 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] RECOMMENDATION
In-Reply-To: <33C3FA1D5FCF43C3A60516E0173F4A87@budda>
References: <01726730863B4E1297997AE20EF8DE96@stevewbxu6x2qe>
	<33C3FA1D5FCF43C3A60516E0173F4A87@budda>
Message-ID: <003a01c8c32c$3468a630$9d39f290$@NET>

HEY ALL,

DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A TRUSTED CAR TRANSPORT COMPANY
THAT GOES CROSS COUNTRY?

THANKS

JOHN KENNER

From tkamstra at sonic.net  Sat May 31 10:50:27 2008
From: tkamstra at sonic.net (Tcherek Kamstra)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 09:50:27 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] RECOMMENDATION
In-Reply-To: <003a01c8c32c$3468a630$9d39f290$@NET>
References: <01726730863B4E1297997AE20EF8DE96@stevewbxu6x2qe>
	<33C3FA1D5FCF43C3A60516E0173F4A87@budda>
	<003a01c8c32c$3468a630$9d39f290$@NET>
Message-ID: <a05200f04c46731bfcbcc@[192.168.2.100]>

We always use Intercity Lines to ship our Morgans. Not cheap, but we 
have trusted them for years.
http://intercitylines.com/

-Tcherek

>HEY ALL,
>
>DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A TRUSTED CAR TRANSPORT COMPANY
>THAT GOES CROSS COUNTRY?
>
>THANKS
>
>JOHN KENNER

From FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET  Sat May 31 11:43:01 2008
From: FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET (JULIA KENNER)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 10:43:01 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] RECOMMENDATION
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THANKS, I'M ASKING THEM FOR A QUOTE.

JOHN

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tcherek Kamstra
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 9:50 AM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] RECOMMENDATION

We always use Intercity Lines to ship our Morgans. Not cheap, but we 
have trusted them for years.
http://intercitylines.com/

-Tcherek

>HEY ALL,
>
>DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A TRUSTED CAR TRANSPORT COMPANY
>THAT GOES CROSS COUNTRY?
>
>THANKS
>
>JOHN KENNER
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From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com  Sat May 31 12:45:26 2008
From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 11:45:26 -0700
Subject: [Nobbc] Transport Company
Message-ID: <BAY140-DS4274F098BE627FBD23A489FB90@phx.gbl>

Whatever you do, don't use Blue Highways. They screwed my XK140 up a treat in
bringing it from outside St. Louis to San Francisco. Finally settled, but it
was a battle, and I came to find out that the dealer I bought the car from had
had a similar problem with them previously but thought it had been taken care
of. It hadn't...

Norm Weinfeld