From sand at frii.com Sat Aug 2 00:49:33 2008 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:49:33 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] last call-nobbc 7th -steve. Message-ID: o.k. here we go as most of you know i will not be there- in spirt yes-in body no. (maybe barrack will show up in a bentley w/his rap star bud ludicres) o.k. folks gas down there must be pushing 4.5 bucks a gal or better- how much is 2 beers at your local tavern? get out and show up at the warm springs dam. for god sakes,it,s nobbc 7th anniversary ride- this club between ron and me and joe and deano- from absolutley me handing out flyers to what it has become w/my rants and ron and deanos making appeals for my fast blasting lines and always joe a. at the ready- my jabs at steve plath and kurt housh- houla danceing in rons yard- scott irwin dressing as spock- and all you guys i never have known-(and never will) it,s nobbc. it,s still dues free- to this day even in colorado i am asked how the hell did you do this-? well i did not do it alone. it was one hell of a hard start- empire sports car club (s.c.c.a.) tryed to can me as soon as they had word of my "evil ideas" a brit car club has been tryed here before more than once and they have always failed, you will as well. well that may be so, however that was long before steve lehmann and ron englehardt and dean paige. after that came bill o,hara (R.I.P.) and joe arbunic-(met at a garage sale by his wife when i spoted his m.g.,s) so many of you have had my blasting words over the last 7 years- politics-global warming-rant- oil drips into s.f. bay-ect. thing is guys (and gals) is this- this club is still after all the naysayers very much alive- this club also is being looked at by all the big bay area clubs.(has been since advent) sorry safari,triumph travelers,esca,the corvette clubs,sacto brit club,fresno brit club,chico brit club,vegas brit club and now denver co. and front range brit car clubs. why? because we are different,that,s why. we are differnt as a club as much as we are all different as people. these other clubs will never say they envy us yet the truth is they do. not there managing gurus,govenors,exec board but there members. i know it, you know it, and they know it. enuff for tonight guys- fly the nobbc flags and send photos up to me please- dee and i will be at the dam in the morn. it,s gonna be 101 here tommorrow. i will park tr out on street. raidiation treatments finished as far as i know- next big pow wow w/ docs friday 8th re cemo plans- point of orgin still a mystery, doc i belive will call it pancres due to no cancer in colin. radiation has given some relife to pain in right testicle but it still is there. altered walk due to this pain now shooting into right hip. upset gut pain remains most days till noon or 2 p.m.- all you guys just go for a ride for the 7th and send pics- thank you. steve. sand at frii.com wish i was there. it,s late and im ready to go to bed- truth be known my eyes are getting wet. i miss you guys. some days are better than others. From sand at frii.com Sat Aug 2 01:21:35 2008 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 01:21:35 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] orig nobbc start up flyers for sale- Message-ID: <3F34A37A28834E69BC708253AB884387@stevewbxu6x2qe> orig. nobbc (pre nobbc name) flyers for sale- #1 flyer for aug 4th 2001-(looks like a bomb threat) #2 flyer for sept 29th 2001-(orig steve conoley coligrafey) #3 flyer w/ nobbc name to meet w/ north coast club april 21st 2002 (returned to bomb threat look) that,s right folks,honest to god copys of the orig. nobbc flyers- suiteable for framing- this is a very limeted time offer- act now before supplys run out. so you dont forget send before midnight tonight. just $19.95 ea. send s.a.s.e. to: nobbc arcives c/o steve lehmann 3519 colrado ave. loveland co. 80537 From debbiekayrich at yahoo.com Mon Aug 4 09:36:51 2008 From: debbiekayrich at yahoo.com (Deborah Richardson Richardson) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 08:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] 4th Anniversary Ride Message-ID: <446619.56266.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi All, We're new to the club (haven't even met up with all of you--our 1980 MGB Limited Edition has been in the shop and we just got it back!) Anyways, we were hoping to make the anniversary ride, but didn't trust the "baby" to go that far just yet. However, we would love to get pictures, if anyone has some they would be will to share. Hope to meet up with you all in the future!! Debbie Richardson & Joe Trouette P.S. If anyone could recommend a good British/European shop that's reasonable (LOL), for future reference, we would appreciate it. We're in Healdsburg, so something close to there would be great. From sand at frii.com Mon Aug 4 09:51:21 2008 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:51:21 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] 4th Anniversary Ride References: <446619.56266.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: hello deborah, welcome to the club, your going to like it. when you do recive an e-mail from the 7th ride would you please forward to this addy- thank you. steve lehmann-colorado co-founder 2001 aug 4th. sand at frii.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah Richardson Richardson" To: Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 9:36 AM Subject: [Nobbc] 4th Anniversary Ride > Hi All, > > We're new to the club (haven't even met up with all of you--our 1980 MGB > Limited Edition has been in the shop and we just got it back!) > > Anyways, we were hoping to make the anniversary ride, but didn't trust the > "baby" to go that far just yet. However, we would love to get pictures, > if > anyone has some they would be will to share. > > Hope to meet up with you all in the future!! > > Debbie Richardson & Joe Trouette > > P.S. If anyone could recommend a good British/European shop that's > reasonable > (LOL), for future reference, we would appreciate it. We're in Healdsburg, > so > something close to there would be great. > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From csaul at noleak.com Mon Aug 4 10:05:11 2008 From: csaul at noleak.com (Charlie Saul) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:05:11 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] 4th Anniversary Ride In-Reply-To: <446619.56266.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE0E87BB@AQUA-DC1.noleak.com> Hi All, Like Debbie and Joe, Lori and I are would be newbies as soon as our patient comes out of it's coma. Your Saturday ride sounded so intriguing, that we decided to do it yesterday (Sunday)! Alas, without the British flare. What a b e a u t i f u l ride though. Then stuffed ourselves on seafood. Hope to meet you all some day... Charlie -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Deborah Richardson Richardson Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 8:37 AM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: [Nobbc] 4th Anniversary Ride Hi All, We're new to the club (haven't even met up with all of you--our 1980 MGB Limited Edition has been in the shop and we just got it back!) Anyways, we were hoping to make the anniversary ride, but didn't trust the "baby" to go that far just yet. However, we would love to get pictures, if anyone has some they would be will to share. Hope to meet up with you all in the future!! Debbie Richardson & Joe Trouette P.S. If anyone could recommend a good British/European shop that's reasonable (LOL), for future reference, we would appreciate it. We're in Healdsburg, so something close to there would be great. _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Mon Aug 4 10:08:37 2008 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:08:37 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] 4th Anniversary Ride In-Reply-To: <446619.56266.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <446619.56266.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48972985.50900@sonic.net> Hi Debbie, I took some pictures and will send them to our webmistress later today. (The site, if you haven't visited it is at www.nobbc.com). I know others took pictures also and hope that they will do the same. Ron 58 MGA Deborah Richardson Richardson wrote: > Hi All, > > We're new to the club (haven't even met up with all of you--our 1980 MGB > Limited Edition has been in the shop and we just got it back!) > > Anyways, we were hoping to make the anniversary ride, but didn't trust the > "baby" to go that far just yet. However, we would love to get pictures, if > anyone has some they would be will to share. > > Hope to meet up with you all in the future!! > > Debbie Richardson & Joe Trouette > > P.S. If anyone could recommend a good British/European shop that's reasonable > (LOL), for future reference, we would appreciate it. We're in Healdsburg, so > something close to there would be great. > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sand at frii.com Tue Aug 5 17:06:59 2008 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 17:06:59 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] here you go folks- tr4-a another price cut. Message-ID: <073522C159674E6C8EB3D64228DF24E3@stevewbxu6x2qe> see the tr4-A on club website. cars/parts for sale. www.nobbc.com new price-14,000 come and get it. steve. From FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET Thu Aug 7 20:48:24 2008 From: FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET (JULIA KENNER) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 19:48:24 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP In-Reply-To: References: <7D54FBCBFF514EC29A5DD0AEF81BBEA7@melc90a4374d70> Message-ID: <000a01c8f901$3ae2ba40$b0a82ec0$@NET> SORRY FOR USING THIS EMAIL SITE BUT COULD NOT FIND CHARLIE'S EMAIL ADDRESS. CHARLIE, CAN YOU TELL ME THE OUTSIDE MEASUREMENT OF THE WHEELS ON THE TR7. NEED TO KNOW IF IT WILL FIT ON MY LITTLE TRAILER. THANKS JOHN KENNER From csaul at noleak.com Thu Aug 7 20:52:29 2008 From: csaul at noleak.com (Charlie Saul) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 19:52:29 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP In-Reply-To: <000a01c8f901$3ae2ba40$b0a82ec0$@NET> References: <7D54FBCBFF514EC29A5DD0AEF81BBEA7@melc90a4374d70> <000a01c8f901$3ae2ba40$b0a82ec0$@NET> Message-ID: <661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE0E87E2@AQUA-DC1.noleak.com> Hi John, I am a potential new member (depends on when my Jag comes out of it's deep slumber). I believe the mainpage will direct you to a TR owner. Best Regards, Charlie -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of JULIA KENNER Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:48 PM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP SORRY FOR USING THIS EMAIL SITE BUT COULD NOT FIND CHARLIE'S EMAIL ADDRESS. CHARLIE, CAN YOU TELL ME THE OUTSIDE MEASUREMENT OF THE WHEELS ON THE TR7. NEED TO KNOW IF IT WILL FIT ON MY LITTLE TRAILER. THANKS JOHN KENNER _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Thu Aug 7 22:14:09 2008 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:14:09 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP In-Reply-To: <661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE0E87E2@AQUA-DC1.noleak.com> References: <7D54FBCBFF514EC29A5DD0AEF81BBEA7@melc90a4374d70> <000a01c8f901$3ae2ba40$b0a82ec0$@NET> <661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE0E87E2@AQUA-DC1.noleak.com> Message-ID: <489BC811.4090304@sonic.net> I think John meant to direct this to Charlie Wehn who has a TR-7 (also a 6 and 8). I'm sure he'll answer soon but I can give you (John) hs email address if you need it. Ron 58 MGA Charlie Saul wrote: > Hi John, > > I am a potential new member (depends on when my Jag comes out of it's > deep slumber). > > I believe the mainpage will direct you to a TR owner. > > Best Regards, > > Charlie > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of JULIA KENNER > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:48 PM > To: 'North Bay British Car Club' > Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > > SORRY FOR USING THIS EMAIL SITE BUT COULD NOT FIND CHARLIE'S EMAIL > ADDRESS. > > CHARLIE, > > CAN YOU TELL ME THE OUTSIDE MEASUREMENT OF THE WHEELS ON > THE TR7. NEED TO KNOW IF IT WILL FIT ON MY LITTLE TRAILER. > > THANKS > > JOHN KENNER > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From tonykorman at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 8 11:10:36 2008 From: tonykorman at sbcglobal.net (tony korman) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:10:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP Message-ID: <369318.59597.qm@web81503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello I am looking for a mechanic, reasonable, Santa Rosa Windsor area for regular and normal maintenance on my TR6. If you know anyone I would appreciate a reference. I know just enough to not attempt this myself. I have been to British European but it is not convenient. Thanks Tony ----- Original Message ---- From: Ron Engelhardt To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2008 9:14:09 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP I think John meant to direct this to Charlie Wehn who has a TR-7 (also a 6 and 8). I'm sure he'll answer soon but I can give you (John) hs email address if you need it. Ron 58 MGA Charlie Saul wrote: > Hi John, > > I am a potential new member (depends on when my Jag comes out of it's > deep slumber). > > I believe the mainpage will direct you to a TR owner. > > Best Regards, > > Charlie > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of JULIA KENNER > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:48 PM > To: 'North Bay British Car Club' > Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > > SORRY FOR USING THIS EMAIL SITE BUT COULD NOT FIND CHARLIE'S EMAIL > ADDRESS. > > CHARLIE, > > CAN YOU TELL ME THE OUTSIDE MEASUREMENT OF THE WHEELS ON > THE TR7. NEED TO KNOW IF IT WILL FIT ON MY LITTLE TRAILER. > > THANKS > > JOHN KENNER > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From CTWehn at cs.com Fri Aug 8 20:58:49 2008 From: CTWehn at cs.com (CTWehn at cs.com) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:58:49 -0400 Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP Message-ID: <423F8B88.3B087609.000435C1@cs.com> John, I measured 63" wide, sidewall to sidewall. Hope it fits. Charlie Wehn TR6,7,8 "JULIA KENNER" wrote: >SORRY FOR USING THIS EMAIL SITE BUT COULD NOT FIND CHARLIE'S EMAIL ADDRESS. > >CHARLIE, > >CAN YOU TELL ME THE OUTSIDE MEASUREMENT OF THE WHEELS ON >THE TR7. NEED TO KNOW IF IT WILL FIT ON MY LITTLE TRAILER. > >THANKS > >JOHN KENNER >_______________________________________________ >Nobbc mailing list >Nobbc at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET Sat Aug 9 08:40:15 2008 From: FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET (JULIA KENNER) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 07:40:15 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP In-Reply-To: <423F8B88.3B087609.000435C1@cs.com> References: <423F8B88.3B087609.000435C1@cs.com> Message-ID: <000001c8fa2d$d7514900$85f3db00$@NET> THANK YOU CHARLIE JOHN -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of CTWehn at cs.com Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 7:59 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP John, I measured 63" wide, sidewall to sidewall. Hope it fits. Charlie Wehn TR6,7,8 "JULIA KENNER" wrote: >SORRY FOR USING THIS EMAIL SITE BUT COULD NOT FIND CHARLIE'S EMAIL ADDRESS. > >CHARLIE, > >CAN YOU TELL ME THE OUTSIDE MEASUREMENT OF THE WHEELS ON >THE TR7. NEED TO KNOW IF IT WILL FIT ON MY LITTLE TRAILER. > >THANKS > >JOHN KENNER >_______________________________________________ >Nobbc mailing list >Nobbc at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From home at drummondlaw.com Sat Aug 9 09:27:25 2008 From: home at drummondlaw.com (Dan) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 08:27:25 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP In-Reply-To: <369318.59597.qm@web81503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <369318.59597.qm@web81503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C72F84E220A4E6F881021B18E4580A2@dandebbie> You might try the guys over at Tri-Star on Dowd (behind Corby). I've had them do some work on one of my Jags and have been satisfied with them. I don't know if they handle Triumphs, but it's worth a call. Dan Drummond -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tony korman Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 10:11 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP Hello I am looking for a mechanic, reasonable, Santa Rosa Windsor area for regular and normal maintenance on my TR6. If you know anyone I would appreciate a reference. I know just enough to not attempt this myself. I have been to British European but it is not convenient. Thanks Tony ----- Original Message ---- From: Ron Engelhardt To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2008 9:14:09 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP I think John meant to direct this to Charlie Wehn who has a TR-7 (also a 6 and 8). I'm sure he'll answer soon but I can give you (John) hs email address if you need it. Ron 58 MGA Charlie Saul wrote: > Hi John, > > I am a potential new member (depends on when my Jag comes out of it's > deep slumber). > > I believe the mainpage will direct you to a TR owner. > > Best Regards, > > Charlie > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of JULIA KENNER > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:48 PM > To: 'North Bay British Car Club' > Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > > SORRY FOR USING THIS EMAIL SITE BUT COULD NOT FIND CHARLIE'S EMAIL > ADDRESS. > > CHARLIE, > > CAN YOU TELL ME THE OUTSIDE MEASUREMENT OF THE WHEELS ON > THE TR7. NEED TO KNOW IF IT WILL FIT ON MY LITTLE TRAILER. > > THANKS > > JOHN KENNER > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From tonykorman at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 9 10:33:47 2008 From: tonykorman at sbcglobal.net (tony korman) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 09:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP Message-ID: <85551.1046.qm@web81503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dan Thanks. Were you with O'Brien Waters? We have met. Tony Korman ----- Original Message ---- From: Dan To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 8:27:25 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP You might try the guys over at Tri-Star on Dowd (behind Corby). I've had them do some work on one of my Jags and have been satisfied with them. I don't know if they handle Triumphs, but it's worth a call. Dan Drummond -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tony korman Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 10:11 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP Hello I am looking for a mechanic, reasonable, Santa Rosa Windsor area for regular and normal maintenance on my TR6. If you know anyone I would appreciate a reference. I know just enough to not attempt this myself. I have been to British European but it is not convenient. Thanks Tony ----- Original Message ---- From: Ron Engelhardt To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2008 9:14:09 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP I think John meant to direct this to Charlie Wehn who has a TR-7 (also a 6 and 8). I'm sure he'll answer soon but I can give you (John) hs email address if you need it. Ron 58 MGA Charlie Saul wrote: > Hi John, > > I am a potential new member (depends on when my Jag comes out of it's > deep slumber). > > I believe the mainpage will direct you to a TR owner. > > Best Regards, > > Charlie > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of JULIA KENNER > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:48 PM > To: 'North Bay British Car Club' > Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > > SORRY FOR USING THIS EMAIL SITE BUT COULD NOT FIND CHARLIE'S EMAIL > ADDRESS. > > CHARLIE, > > CAN YOU TELL ME THE OUTSIDE MEASUREMENT OF THE WHEELS ON > THE TR7. NEED TO KNOW IF IT WILL FIT ON MY LITTLE TRAILER. > > THANKS > > JOHN KENNER > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From henriviii at comcast.net Mon Aug 11 15:25:15 2008 From: henriviii at comcast.net (henriviii at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:25:15 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP Message-ID: <081120082125.3645.48A0AE3B000DCBD700000E3D221654868607070790079D020A08@comcast.net> Hi Tony, If you get a recommendation for your TR6 , please let me know. I am in the same fix. Have a 72 and no one up here I would recommend. Have several no -nos. As a 40+ year member of Triumph Travelers on the Peninsula, all my contacts and buddies are too far away. Thanks, Emile Houle -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: tony korman > Hello > I am looking for a mechanic, reasonable, Santa Rosa Windsor area for > regular and normal maintenance on my TR6. If you know anyone I would > appreciate a reference. I know just enough to not attempt this myself. I have > been to British European but it is not convenient. > Thanks > Tony > > > > ----- > Original Message ---- > From: Ron Engelhardt > To: North Bay > British Car Club > Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2008 9:14:09 > PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > > I think John meant to direct this > to Charlie Wehn who has a TR-7 (also a > 6 and 8). I'm sure he'll answer soon > but I can give you (John) hs email > address if you need it. > > Ron > 58 MGA > Charlie Saul wrote: > > > Hi John, > > > > I am a potential new member (depends on > when my Jag comes out of it's > > deep slumber). > > > > I believe the mainpage > will direct you to a TR owner. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Charlie > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > On Behalf Of JULIA KENNER > > Sent: > Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:48 PM > > To: 'North Bay British Car Club' > > > Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > > > > SORRY FOR USING THIS EMAIL SITE BUT > COULD NOT FIND CHARLIE'S EMAIL > > ADDRESS. > > > > CHARLIE, > > > > CAN YOU TELL ME > THE OUTSIDE MEASUREMENT OF THE WHEELS ON > > THE TR7. NEED TO KNOW IF IT WILL > FIT ON MY LITTLE TRAILER. > > > > THANKS > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From csaul at noleak.com Mon Aug 11 16:17:44 2008 From: csaul at noleak.com (Charlie Saul) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:17:44 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Jag XK radiator level In-Reply-To: <081120082125.3645.48A0AE3B000DCBD700000E3D221654868607070790079D020A08@comcast.net> References: <081120082125.3645.48A0AE3B000DCBD700000E3D221654868607070790079D020A08@comcast.net> Message-ID: <661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE0E87EE@AQUA-DC1.noleak.com> Hi All: I had been told to fill the radiator to the bottom (curve) of the neck which only leaves about a couple of cubic inches to allow for expansion; hence the overflowing. What is the proper water level? The radiator configuration does not allow one to see the water level easily below the neck; but I could use a dip stick if is supposed to be lower. I have been scared to run the car with the water level too low. Anyone? Thanks, Charlie Saul -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of henriviii at comcast.net Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:25 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP Hi Tony, If you get a recommendation for your TR6 , please let me know. I am in the same fix. Have a 72 and no one up here I would recommend. Have several no -nos. As a 40+ year member of Triumph Travelers on the Peninsula, all my contacts and buddies are too far away. Thanks, Emile Houle -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: tony korman > Hello > I am looking for a mechanic, reasonable, Santa Rosa Windsor area for > regular and normal maintenance on my TR6. If you know anyone I would > appreciate a reference. I know just enough to not attempt this myself. I have > been to British European but it is not convenient. > Thanks > Tony > > > > ----- > Original Message ---- > From: Ron Engelhardt > To: North Bay > British Car Club > Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2008 9:14:09 > PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > > I think John meant to direct this > to Charlie Wehn who has a TR-7 (also a > 6 and 8). I'm sure he'll answer soon > but I can give you (John) hs email > address if you need it. > > Ron > 58 MGA > Charlie Saul wrote: > > > Hi John, > > > > I am a potential new member (depends on > when my Jag comes out of it's > > deep slumber). > > > > I believe the mainpage > will direct you to a TR owner. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Charlie > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > On Behalf Of JULIA KENNER > > Sent: > Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:48 PM > > To: 'North Bay British Car Club' > > > Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > > > > SORRY FOR USING THIS EMAIL SITE BUT > COULD NOT FIND CHARLIE'S EMAIL > > ADDRESS. > > > > CHARLIE, > > > > CAN YOU TELL ME > THE OUTSIDE MEASUREMENT OF THE WHEELS ON > > THE TR7. NEED TO KNOW IF IT WILL > FIT ON MY LITTLE TRAILER. > > > > THANKS > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Mon Aug 11 16:33:52 2008 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:33:52 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Jag XK radiator level In-Reply-To: <661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE0E87EE@AQUA-DC1.noleak.com> References: <081120082125.3645.48A0AE3B000DCBD700000E3D221654868607070790079D020A08@comcast.net> <661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE0E87EE@AQUA-DC1.noleak.com> Message-ID: <48A0BE50.50903@sonic.net> I fill my radiator until I can see the water in the curve. It will spit out any excess anyway, kind of self leveling. Ron 58 MGA Charlie Saul wrote: > Hi All: > > I had been told to fill the radiator to the bottom (curve) of the neck > which only leaves about a couple of cubic inches to allow for expansion; > hence the overflowing. What is the proper water level? The radiator > configuration does not allow one to see the water level easily below the > neck; but I could use a dip stick if is supposed to be lower. I have > been scared to run the car with the water level too low. > > Anyone? > > Thanks, > > Charlie Saul From csaul at noleak.com Mon Aug 11 17:03:44 2008 From: csaul at noleak.com (Charlie Saul) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:03:44 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Jag XK radiator level In-Reply-To: <48A0BE50.50903@sonic.net> References: <081120082125.3645.48A0AE3B000DCBD700000E3D221654868607070790079D020A08@comcast.net><661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE0E87EE@AQUA-DC1.noleak.com> <48A0BE50.50903@sonic.net> Message-ID: <661FDE1E7F6F514FA46326B269A37AEE0E87F0@AQUA-DC1.noleak.com> Thanks Ron: Makes sense. I put in an overflow bottle because the overflow seemed excessive, but the bottle may be siphoning too much water out. I think I'll have to have the system checked out per earlier e-mails. Thanks to All. Charlie Saul -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 3:34 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Jag XK radiator level I fill my radiator until I can see the water in the curve. It will spit out any excess anyway, kind of self leveling. Ron 58 MGA Charlie Saul wrote: > Hi All: > > I had been told to fill the radiator to the bottom (curve) of the neck > which only leaves about a couple of cubic inches to allow for expansion; > hence the overflowing. What is the proper water level? The radiator > configuration does not allow one to see the water level easily below the > neck; but I could use a dip stick if is supposed to be lower. I have > been scared to run the car with the water level too low. > > Anyone? > > Thanks, > > Charlie Saul _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From tonykorman at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 11 17:13:02 2008 From: tonykorman at sbcglobal.net (tony korman) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP Message-ID: <383215.82091.qm@web81507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Emile Would be curious about the no-nos. I did talk with Tri Star earlier this afternoon and sounds promising. I plan to take the car by there later in the week for a preview. my cell is 484 4715 if you wish to discuss further. Tony ----- Original Message ---- From: "henriviii at comcast.net" To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:25:15 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP Hi Tony, If you get a recommendation for your TR6 , please let me know. I am in the same fix. Have a 72 and no one up here I would recommend. Have several no -nos. As a 40+ year member of Triumph Travelers on the Peninsula, all my contacts and buddies are too far away. Thanks, Emile Houle -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: tony korman > Hello > I am looking for a mechanic, reasonable, Santa Rosa Windsor area for > regular and normal maintenance on my TR6. If you know anyone I would > appreciate a reference. I know just enough to not attempt this myself. I have > been to British European but it is not convenient. > Thanks > Tony > > > > ----- > Original Message ---- > From: Ron Engelhardt > To: North Bay > British Car Club > Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2008 9:14:09 > PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > > I think John meant to direct this > to Charlie Wehn who has a TR-7 (also a > 6 and 8). I'm sure he'll answer soon > but I can give you (John) hs email > address if you need it. > > Ron > 58 MGA > Charlie Saul wrote: > > > Hi John, > > > > I am a potential new member (depends on > when my Jag comes out of it's > > deep slumber). > > > > I believe the mainpage > will direct you to a TR owner. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Charlie > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > On Behalf Of JULIA KENNER > > Sent: > Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:48 PM > > To: 'North Bay British Car Club' > > > Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > > > > SORRY FOR USING THIS EMAIL SITE BUT > COULD NOT FIND CHARLIE'S EMAIL > > ADDRESS. > > > > CHARLIE, > > > > CAN YOU TELL ME > THE OUTSIDE MEASUREMENT OF THE WHEELS ON > > THE TR7. NEED TO KNOW IF IT WILL > FIT ON MY LITTLE TRAILER. > > > > THANKS > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From Gary at slpcpa.com Mon Aug 11 18:02:21 2008 From: Gary at slpcpa.com (Gary Phillips) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:02:21 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP In-Reply-To: <081120082125.3645.48A0AE3B000DCBD700000E3D221654868607070790079D020A08@comcast.net> References: <081120082125.3645.48A0AE3B000DCBD700000E3D221654868607070790079D020A08@comcast.net> Message-ID: <25A3B120A7B094459EF702DBE0E2823CCDD21F@svr-exchange.SLP.corp> William Shaw of Corte Madera British and European has done good work on my 1972 TR6. Obviously not Santa Rosa, but Marin is not all that far. Gary O. Phillips MBA, CPA, CVA Partner Smith, Lange & Phillips LLP 33 New Montgomery Street, 15th Floor San Francisco, CA 94105 T: 415-243-8833 F: 415-243-8840 E: gary at slpcpa.com IRS Circular 230 disclosure: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you that any tax advice contained in this communication, unless expressly stated otherwise, was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matter(s) addressed herein. NOTE: This information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of henriviii at comcast.net Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:25 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP Hi Tony, If you get a recommendation for your TR6 , please let me know. I am in the same fix. Have a 72 and no one up here I would recommend. Have several no -nos. As a 40+ year member of Triumph Travelers on the Peninsula, all my contacts and buddies are too far away. Thanks, Emile Houle -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: tony korman > Hello > I am looking for a mechanic, reasonable, Santa Rosa Windsor area for > regular and normal maintenance on my TR6. If you know anyone I would > appreciate a reference. I know just enough to not attempt this myself. I have > been to British European but it is not convenient. > Thanks > Tony > > > > ----- > Original Message ---- > From: Ron Engelhardt > To: North Bay > British Car Club > Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2008 9:14:09 > PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > > I think John meant to direct this > to Charlie Wehn who has a TR-7 (also a > 6 and 8). I'm sure he'll answer soon > but I can give you (John) hs email > address if you need it. > > Ron > 58 MGA > Charlie Saul wrote: > > > Hi John, > > > > I am a potential new member (depends on > when my Jag comes out of it's > > deep slumber). > > > > I believe the mainpage > will direct you to a TR owner. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Charlie > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > On Behalf Of JULIA KENNER > > Sent: > Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:48 PM > > To: 'North Bay British Car Club' > > > Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > > > > SORRY FOR USING THIS EMAIL SITE BUT > COULD NOT FIND CHARLIE'S EMAIL > > ADDRESS. > > > > CHARLIE, > > > > CAN YOU TELL ME > THE OUTSIDE MEASUREMENT OF THE WHEELS ON > > THE TR7. NEED TO KNOW IF IT WILL > FIT ON MY LITTLE TRAILER. > > > > THANKS > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From mowog at sonic.net Mon Aug 11 18:18:49 2008 From: mowog at sonic.net (Rod Williams) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:18:49 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP In-Reply-To: <383215.82091.qm@web81507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <383215.82091.qm@web81507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3D8C03B1-BD67-4AEA-AD07-3FEBF4CA4638@sonic.net> On Aug 11, 2008, at 4:13 PM, tony korman wrote: > I did talk with Tri Star earlier > this afternoon and sounds promising The guys at TriStar worked on my 65 Mark II and my 67 XIE (sadly, both gone on to other owners) and in both instances the cars ran the best that they ever ran. Even rebuilt the rear-end on the XKE; not a job for the faint-hearted. Jim Dadaos, the owner, used to work under Jim Griffin back when Jim ran the service department at one of the original Jag dealers in the Bay Area. He has a soft spot in his heart for Jags but I don't know if he still takes them in. -- Rod Williams Petaluma, California 1967 MGB From tonykorman at sbcglobal.net Wed Aug 13 16:44:25 2008 From: tonykorman at sbcglobal.net (tony korman) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:44:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] Tahoe Tr 6 show October 3-5 Message-ID: <452898.80337.qm@web81507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I hear there is a Tr6 car show in Tahoe October 3-5. Does anyone know anything about this? Tony ----- Original Message ---- From: Gary Phillips To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 5:02:21 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP William Shaw of Corte Madera British and European has done good work on my 1972 TR6. Obviously not Santa Rosa, but Marin is not all that far. Gary O. Phillips MBA, CPA, CVA Partner Smith, Lange & Phillips LLP 33 New Montgomery Street, 15th Floor San Francisco, CA 94105 T: 415-243-8833 F: 415-243-8840 E: gary at slpcpa.com IRS Circular 230 disclosure: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you that any tax advice contained in this communication, unless expressly stated otherwise, was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matter(s) addressed herein. NOTE: This information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of henriviii at comcast.net Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:25 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP Hi Tony, If you get a recommendation for your TR6 , please let me know. I am in the same fix. Have a 72 and no one up here I would recommend. Have several no -nos. As a 40+ year member of Triumph Travelers on the Peninsula, all my contacts and buddies are too far away. Thanks, Emile Houle -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: tony korman > Hello > I am looking for a mechanic, reasonable, Santa Rosa Windsor area for > regular and normal maintenance on my TR6. If you know anyone I would > appreciate a reference. I know just enough to not attempt this myself. I have > been to British European but it is not convenient. > Thanks > Tony > > > > ----- > Original Message ---- > From: Ron Engelhardt > To: North Bay > British Car Club > Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2008 9:14:09 > PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > > I think John meant to direct this > to Charlie Wehn who has a TR-7 (also a > 6 and 8). I'm sure he'll answer soon > but I can give you (John) hs email > address if you need it. > > Ron > 58 MGA > Charlie Saul wrote: > > > Hi John, > > > > I am a potential new member (depends on > when my Jag comes out of it's > > deep slumber). > > > > I believe the mainpage > will direct you to a TR owner. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Charlie > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > On Behalf Of JULIA KENNER > > Sent: > Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:48 PM > > To: 'North Bay British Car Club' > > > Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > > > > SORRY FOR USING THIS EMAIL SITE BUT > COULD NOT FIND CHARLIE'S EMAIL > > ADDRESS. > > > > CHARLIE, > > > > CAN YOU TELL ME > THE OUTSIDE MEASUREMENT OF THE WHEELS ON > > THE TR7. NEED TO KNOW IF IT WILL > FIT ON MY LITTLE TRAILER. > > > > THANKS > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sand at frii.com Wed Aug 13 17:18:25 2008 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:18:25 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] Tahoe Tr 6 show October 3-5 References: <452898.80337.qm@web81507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <63C173794E4849E7827F17BDA490C145@stevewbxu6x2qe> tony, you may want to try looking at the vintage triumph register website. also worth a shot would be triumph travelers website- maybe tahoe viseters beuru? do you know anything abought this deano? steve-colorado. ----- Original Message ----- From: "tony korman" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:44 PM Subject: [Nobbc] Tahoe Tr 6 show October 3-5 >I hear there is a Tr6 car show in Tahoe October 3-5. Does anyone know > anything about this? > Tony > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gary Phillips > > To: North Bay British Car Club > Sent: > Monday, August 11, 2008 5:02:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > William Shaw of Corte Madera British and European has done good work on > my > 1972 TR6. Obviously not Santa Rosa, but Marin is not all that far. > > > Gary O. > Phillips MBA, CPA, CVA > > Partner > > Smith, Lange & Phillips LLP > > 33 New > Montgomery Street, 15th Floor > > San Francisco, CA 94105 > > T: 415-243-8833 > > F: > 415-243-8840 > > E: gary at slpcpa.com > > > > IRS Circular 230 disclosure: > To ensure > compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you > that any tax > advice contained in this communication, unless expressly > stated otherwise, was > not intended or written to be used, and cannot be > used, for the purpose of (i) > avoiding tax-related penalties under the > Internal Revenue Code or (ii) > promoting, marketing or recommending to > another party any tax-related > matter(s) addressed herein. > > NOTE: This information transmitted is intended > only for the person or > entity to which it is addressed and may contain > confidential and/or > privileged material. Any review, retransmission, > dissemination, or other > use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this > information by > persons or entities other than the intended recipient is > prohibited. If > you receive this email in error, please contact the sender and > delete > the material from any computer. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: > nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf > Of henriviii at comcast.net > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:25 PM > To: North Bay > British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > > Hi Tony, If you > get a recommendation for your TR6 , please let me know. > I am in the same fix. > Have a 72 and no one up here I would recommend. > Have several no -nos. > As a 40+ > year member of Triumph Travelers on the Peninsula, all my > contacts and buddies > are too far away. > > Thanks, Emile Houle > -------------- Original message > ---------------------- > From: tony korman >> Hello >> > I am looking for a mechanic, reasonable, Santa Rosa Windsor area for >> regular > and normal maintenance on my TR6. If you know anyone I would >> appreciate a > reference. I know just enough to not attempt this myself. > I have >> been to > British European but it is not convenient. >> Thanks >> Tony >> >> >> >> ----- >> > Original Message ---- >> From: Ron Engelhardt >> To: North Bay >> British Car Club >> Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2008 > 9:14:09 >> PM >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP >> >> I think John meant > to direct this >> to Charlie Wehn who has a TR-7 (also a >> 6 and 8). I'm sure > he'll answer soon >> but I can give you (John) hs email >> address if you need > it. >> >> Ron >> 58 MGA >> Charlie Saul wrote: >> >> > Hi John, >> > >> > I am a > potential new member (depends on >> when my Jag comes out of it's >> > deep > slumber). >> > >> > I believe the mainpage >> will direct you to a TR owner. >> > >> > Best Regards, >> > >> > Charlie >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- >> > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >> > > On Behalf Of JULIA KENNER >> > Sent: >> Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:48 PM >> > > To: 'North Bay British Car Club' >> > >> Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP >> >> >> > SORRY FOR USING THIS EMAIL SITE BUT >> COULD NOT FIND CHARLIE'S EMAIL >> > > ADDRESS. >> > >> > CHARLIE, >> > >> > CAN YOU TELL ME >> THE OUTSIDE MEASUREMENT OF > THE WHEELS ON >> > THE TR7. NEED TO KNOW IF IT WILL >> FIT ON MY LITTLE TRAILER. >> > >> > THANKS >> > >> > JOHN KENNER >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Nobbc mailing list >> > >> > Nobbc at autox.team.net >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Nobbc mailing list >> > >> > Nobbc at autox.team.net >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> > _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> > Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> > _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> > Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From henriviii at comcast.net Thu Aug 14 20:51:25 2008 From: henriviii at comcast.net (henriviii at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:51:25 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] Tahoe Tr 6 show October 3-5 Message-ID: <081520080251.5904.48A4EF2D00065DBF00001710221557547407070790079D020A08@comcast.net> Here's the story. The 6 West Coast Triumph Clubs have presented a 3 day Triumphest each year since 1986. It is open to all Triumph Owners. This year is Triumph Travelers turn since in addition they are celebratiing their 50th anniversary, having been founded in Palo Alto in 1958, and are the longest continuous TR club in the US and perhaps the Universe., All details can be found on their web site at www.triumphtravelers.org as well as registration forms, event calendar etc. As a 41 year member, I urge you to check it out. In 2004 , we drew 210 Triumph cars to Tahoe! Emile Houle -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: tony korman > I hear there is a Tr6 car show in Tahoe October 3-5. Does anyone know > anything about this? > Tony > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gary Phillips > > To: North Bay British Car Club > Sent: > Monday, August 11, 2008 5:02:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > William Shaw of Corte Madera British and European has done good work on > my > 1972 TR6. Obviously not Santa Rosa, but Marin is not all that far. > > > Gary O. > Phillips MBA, CPA, CVA > > Partner > > Smith, Lange & Phillips LLP > > 33 New > Montgomery Street, 15th Floor > > San Francisco, CA 94105 > > T: 415-243-8833 > > F: > 415-243-8840 > > E: gary at slpcpa.com > > > > IRS Circular 230 disclosure: > To ensure > compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you > that any tax > advice contained in this communication, unless expressly > stated otherwise, was > not intended or written to be used, and cannot be > used, for the purpose of (i) > avoiding tax-related penalties under the > Internal Revenue Code or (ii) > promoting, marketing or recommending to > another party any tax-related > matter(s) addressed herein. > > NOTE: This information transmitted is intended > only for the person or > entity to which it is addressed and may contain > confidential and/or > privileged material. Any review, retransmission, > dissemination, or other > use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this > information by > persons or entities other than the intended recipient is > prohibited. If > you receive this email in error, please contact the sender and > delete > the material from any computer. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: > nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf > Of henriviii at comcast.net > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:25 PM > To: North Bay > British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > > Hi Tony, If you > get a recommendation for your TR6 , please let me know. > I am in the same fix. > Have a 72 and no one up here I would recommend. > Have several no -nos. > As a 40+ > year member of Triumph Travelers on the Peninsula, all my > contacts and buddies > are too far away. > > Thanks, Emile Houle > -------------- Original message > ---------------------- > From: tony korman > > Hello > > > I am looking for a mechanic, reasonable, Santa Rosa Windsor area for > > regular > and normal maintenance on my TR6. If you know anyone I would > > appreciate a > reference. I know just enough to not attempt this myself. > I have > > been to > British European but it is not convenient. > > Thanks > > Tony > > > > > > > > ----- > > > Original Message ---- > > From: Ron Engelhardt > > To: North Bay > > British Car Club > > Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2008 > 9:14:09 > > PM > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > > > > I think John meant > to direct this > > to Charlie Wehn who has a TR-7 (also a > > 6 and 8). I'm sure > he'll answer soon > > but I can give you (John) hs email > > address if you need > it. > > > > Ron > > 58 MGA > > Charlie Saul wrote: > > > > > Hi John, > > > > > > I am a > potential new member (depends on > > when my Jag comes out of it's > > > deep > slumber). > > > > > > I believe the mainpage > > will direct you to a TR owner. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Charlie > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > > > On Behalf Of JULIA KENNER > > > Sent: > > Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:48 PM > > > > To: 'North Bay British Car Club' > > > > > Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > > > > > > > SORRY FOR USING THIS EMAIL SITE BUT > > COULD NOT FIND CHARLIE'S EMAIL > > > > ADDRESS. > > > > > > CHARLIE, > > > > > > CAN YOU TELL ME > > THE OUTSIDE MEASUREMENT OF > THE WHEELS ON > > > THE TR7. NEED TO KNOW IF IT WILL > > FIT ON MY LITTLE TRAILER. > > > > > > THANKS > > > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From tonykorman at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 15 11:24:20 2008 From: tonykorman at sbcglobal.net (tony korman) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] Tahoe Tr 6 show October 3-5 Message-ID: <470813.83650.qm@web81504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To all who are interested in a Santa Rosa area British mechanic, I have talked with a Windsor mechanic with British Car experience. His name is Ron Larson who typically works on Volvos. He is moving to a larger shop on Airport Blvd (Santa Rosa). I explained that "several" of us would be interested in someone, qualified of course, to maintain our cars. He sees this as an opporunity to increase or diversify his clientele. I also spoke with Mike Tillman (Tillman German Auto), who works my car, this morning to see if he had someone qualified in British cars. Does not but receives many requests. I plan to take my TR6 to Larson next week and see how he does and will let all interested know how it turns out. The Tahoe Triumph show sounds very interesting, is there interest out there to participate? Tony Korman ----- Original Message ---- From: "henriviii at comcast.net" To: North Bay British Car Club Cc: krgibbon at volcano.net Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:51:25 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Tahoe Tr 6 show October 3-5 Here's the story. The 6 West Coast Triumph Clubs have presented a 3 day Triumphest each year since 1986. It is open to all Triumph Owners. This year is Triumph Travelers turn since in addition they are celebratiing their 50th anniversary, having been founded in Palo Alto in 1958, and are the longest continuous TR club in the US and perhaps the Universe., All details can be found on their web site at www.triumphtravelers.org as well as registration forms, event calendar etc. As a 41 year member, I urge you to check it out. In 2004 , we drew 210 Triumph cars to Tahoe! Emile Houle -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: tony korman > I hear there is a Tr6 car show in Tahoe October 3-5. Does anyone know > anything about this? > Tony > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gary Phillips > > To: North Bay British Car Club > Sent: > Monday, August 11, 2008 5:02:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > William Shaw of Corte Madera British and European has done good work on > my > 1972 TR6. Obviously not Santa Rosa, but Marin is not all that far. > > > Gary O. > Phillips MBA, CPA, CVA > > Partner > > Smith, Lange & Phillips LLP > > 33 New > Montgomery Street, 15th Floor > > San Francisco, CA 94105 > > T: 415-243-8833 > > F: > 415-243-8840 > > E: gary at slpcpa.com > > > > IRS Circular 230 disclosure: > To ensure > compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you > that any tax > advice contained in this communication, unless expressly > stated otherwise, was > not intended or written to be used, and cannot be > used, for the purpose of (i) > avoiding tax-related penalties under the > Internal Revenue Code or (ii) > promoting, marketing or recommending to > another party any tax-related > matter(s) addressed herein. > > NOTE: This information transmitted is intended > only for the person or > entity to which it is addressed and may contain > confidential and/or > privileged material. Any review, retransmission, > dissemination, or other > use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this > information by > persons or entities other than the intended recipient is > prohibited. If > you receive this email in error, please contact the sender and > delete > the material from any computer. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: > nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf > Of henriviii at comcast.net > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:25 PM > To: North Bay > British Car Club > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > > Hi Tony, If you > get a recommendation for your TR6 , please let me know. > I am in the same fix. > Have a 72 and no one up here I would recommend. > Have several no -nos. > As a 40+ > year member of Triumph Travelers on the Peninsula, all my > contacts and buddies > are too far away. > > Thanks, Emile Houle > -------------- Original message > ---------------------- > From: tony korman > > Hello > > > I am looking for a mechanic, reasonable, Santa Rosa Windsor area for > > regular > and normal maintenance on my TR6. If you know anyone I would > > appreciate a > reference. I know just enough to not attempt this myself. > I have > > been to > British European but it is not convenient. > > Thanks > > Tony > > > > > > > > ----- > > > Original Message ---- > > From: Ron Engelhardt > > To: North Bay > > British Car Club > > Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2008 > 9:14:09 > > PM > > Subject: Re: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > > > > I think John meant > to direct this > > to Charlie Wehn who has a TR-7 (also a > > 6 and 8). I'm sure > he'll answer soon > > but I can give you (John) hs email > > address if you need > it. > > > > Ron > > 58 MGA > > Charlie Saul wrote: > > > > > Hi John, > > > > > > I am a > potential new member (depends on > > when my Jag comes out of it's > > > deep > slumber). > > > > > > I believe the mainpage > > will direct you to a TR owner. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Charlie > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > > [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > > > > On Behalf Of JULIA KENNER > > > Sent: > > Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:48 PM > > > > To: 'North Bay British Car Club' > > > > > Subject: [Nobbc] CHARLIE I NEED HELP > > > > > > > SORRY FOR USING THIS EMAIL SITE BUT > > COULD NOT FIND CHARLIE'S EMAIL > > > > ADDRESS. > > > > > > CHARLIE, > > > > > > CAN YOU TELL ME > > THE OUTSIDE MEASUREMENT OF > THE WHEELS ON > > > THE TR7. NEED TO KNOW IF IT WILL > > FIT ON MY LITTLE TRAILER. > > > > > > THANKS > > > > > > JOHN KENNER > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nobbc mailing list > > > > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nobbc mailing list > > > Nobbc at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Mon Aug 18 19:51:09 2008 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:51:09 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Our next ride Message-ID: <48AA270D.90304@sonic.net> Our next ride will be this coming weekend. I'd like to propose moving it to Sunday instead of Saturday (one time only). I'd like to hear any thoughts, comments, etc. and if there is no outpouring of complaints, let everyone know by Weds. Ron 58 MGA From tonykorman at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 18 19:54:00 2008 From: tonykorman at sbcglobal.net (tonykorman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:54:00 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] Our next ride Message-ID: Yea ha. Where are we going?? Tony Korman Met you at Olivers parking lot. TR6 ------Original Message------ From: Ron Engelhardt Sender: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net To: nobbc at autox.team.net ReplyTo: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Aug 18, 2008 6:51 PM Subject: [Nobbc] Our next ride Our next ride will be this coming weekend. I'd like to propose moving it to Sunday instead of Saturday (one time only). I'd like to hear any thoughts, comments, etc. and if there is no outpouring of complaints, let everyone know by Weds. Ron 58 MGA _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET Mon Aug 18 20:20:32 2008 From: FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET (JULIA KENNER) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:20:32 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Our next ride In-Reply-To: <48AA270D.90304@sonic.net> References: <48AA270D.90304@sonic.net> Message-ID: <000301c901a2$28de3230$7a9a9690$@NET> I'm in for a Sunday ride John -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 6:51 PM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: [Nobbc] Our next ride Our next ride will be this coming weekend. I'd like to propose moving it to Sunday instead of Saturday (one time only). I'd like to hear any thoughts, comments, etc. and if there is no outpouring of complaints, let everyone know by Weds. Ron 58 MGA _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com Mon Aug 18 21:06:35 2008 From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:06:35 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Our next ride Message-ID: Well, I guess I'm confused about a couple of things here. First, I thought the ride schedule was for the 2nd Saturday and 4th Sunday (the latter being this Sunday, no?). Also thought I had replied to the list via the "thread" on-line but these latest three aren't there yet. Is there a delay in this then? (It does have the Tahoe TR-6 thread through the 15th.) Please excuse the ignoramusicity... I'll get it in time. Or not. (Increasingly leaking gray cells... But still driving!) Norm Weinfeld '55 XK140 DHC From nobbc at sonic.net Tue Aug 19 00:50:50 2008 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:50:50 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Our next ride In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48AA6D4A.5080103@sonic.net> Well, we did do the second Saturday and fourth Sunday up until this summer when there was a groundswell to go just on Saturdays (originally, we only went on Saturdays when the club was founded). This Sunday will be a one time thing as members have indicated that Saturday only is preferable. Sorry for the confusion...we are a disorganized organization! Different mail servers process at different rates so it is possible for messages to appear seemingly out of order. The list server will send out messages as received but recipient mail servers may delay depending on loads, etc. Ron 58 MGA Norman Weinfeld wrote: > Well, I guess I'm confused about a couple of things here. First, I thought the > ride schedule was for the 2nd Saturday and 4th Sunday (the latter being this > Sunday, no?). Also thought I had replied to the list via the "thread" on-line > but these latest three aren't there yet. Is there a delay in this then? (It > does have the Tahoe TR-6 thread through the 15th.) Please excuse the > ignoramusicity... I'll get it in time. Or not. (Increasingly leaking gray > cells... But still driving!) > > Norm Weinfeld > '55 XK140 DHC > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From rlmossholder at comcast.net Tue Aug 19 08:00:33 2008 From: rlmossholder at comcast.net (rlmossholder at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:00:33 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] Our next ride Message-ID: <081920081400.11293.48AAD201000532C200002C1D22007589429D0A0B0401089C9C0103049D@comcast.net> If I have the breaks finished I'll drive the new spitfire. What's the destination? Rich '71 Spitfire From nobbc at sonic.net Tue Aug 19 10:15:38 2008 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:15:38 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Our next ride In-Reply-To: <081920081400.11293.48AAD201000532C200002C1D22007589429D0A0B0401089C9C0103049D@comcast.net> References: <081920081400.11293.48AAD201000532C200002C1D22007589429D0A0B0401089C9C0103049D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <48AAF1AA.6020908@sonic.net> With no scheduled destination, the group present will decide although this time of year a trip out Coleman Valley to the coast may be in order. We'll meet at 10AM in the PG&E substation commuter lot just west of 101 on River Rd. If anyone has an alternate idea, let's hear it. Ron 58 MGA rlmossholder at comcast.net wrote: > If I have the breaks finished I'll drive the new spitfire. What's the destination? > Rich > '71 Spitfire > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com Tue Aug 19 10:43:00 2008 From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:43:00 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Our next ride In-Reply-To: <081920081400.11293.48AAD201000532C200002C1D22007589429D0A0B0401089C9C0103049D@comcast.net> <48AAF1AA.6020908@sonic.net> References: <081920081400.11293.48AAD201000532C200002C1D22007589429D0A0B0401089C9C0103049D@comcast.net> <48AAF1AA.6020908@sonic.net> Message-ID: Ron, That sounds good to me. I'm working on the wife to actually come along but she's sounding pretty iffy just now. I'm not giving up yet though... Norm Weinfeld San Francisco 1955 XK140 DHC From: Ron Engelhardt Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:15 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Our next ride With no scheduled destination, the group present will decide although this time of year a trip out Coleman Valley to the coast may be in order. We'll meet at 10AM in the PG&E substation commuter lot just west of 101 on River Rd. If anyone has an alternate idea, let's hear it. Ron 58 MGA rlmossholder at comcast.net wrote: > If I have the breaks finished I'll drive the new spitfire. What's the destination? > Rich > '71 Spitfire > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From dawson at authorspublishing.com Tue Aug 19 12:11:29 2008 From: dawson at authorspublishing.com (Dawson Church) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:11:29 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Our next ride In-Reply-To: <000301c901a2$28de3230$7a9a9690$@NET> References: <48AA270D.90304@sonic.net> <000301c901a2$28de3230$7a9a9690$@NET> Message-ID: <6DA6BC02-8CC3-429F-B164-E336C657A45F@authorspublishing.com> Ditto, though I need to speak on a radio show from 10 am to 10:15, so I'll be there at 10:20 (I live 5 mins away). Ron, if everyone isn't lollygagging around for a half hour as usual, and you leave promptly, please give me a call on my cell at 707 486 9961 to let me know where you are. I can catch you all easily in my yellow Lotus! Dawson On Aug 18, 2008, at 7:20 PM, JULIA KENNER wrote: > I'm in for a Sunday ride > > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > ] On > Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 6:51 PM > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: [Nobbc] Our next ride > > Our next ride will be this coming weekend. I'd like to propose > moving it > to Sunday instead of Saturday (one time only). I'd like to hear any > thoughts, comments, etc. and if there is no outpouring of complaints, > let everyone know by Weds. > > Ron > 58 MGA > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From CTWehn at cs.com Tue Aug 19 13:59:44 2008 From: CTWehn at cs.com (CTWehn at cs.com) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:59:44 EDT Subject: [Nobbc] Our next ride Message-ID: Ron, Patty and I won't be making it this weekend...Busy getting my daughter, Lindsey married. Saturday is the wedding and Sunday is the (hangover)clean-up. If the ride goes by Westside, give us a honk and say "I Do". Cheers, Charlie TR6,7,8 From tonykorman at sbcglobal.net Wed Aug 20 14:44:51 2008 From: tonykorman at sbcglobal.net (tony korman) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Message-ID: <786223.45312.qm@web81508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To all Please accept this follow up to the recent inquiries for a mechanic in the north part of the county. I took my TR 6 to Ron Larson (Larson Automotive) off of Shiloh Road just east of Home Depot (399 Business Park Court, Windsor Unit 302 (west end of buildings). I picked it up yesterday and I will say it has never run better. I will be back as I was very pleased with the service and the overall approach and eagerness to serve the customer. His number is 837 9816 He is planning to move to a larger space off of Airport Blvd end or 2008 or early 2009. Tony Korman ----- Original Message ---- From: Dawson Church To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:11:29 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Our next ride Ditto, though I need to speak on a radio show from 10 am to 10:15, so I'll be there at 10:20 (I live 5 mins away). Ron, if everyone isn't lollygagging around for a half hour as usual, and you leave promptly, please give me a call on my cell at 707 486 9961 to let me know where you are. I can catch you all easily in my yellow Lotus! Dawson On Aug 18, 2008, at 7:20 PM, JULIA KENNER wrote: > I'm in for a Sunday ride > > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net > ] On > Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 6:51 PM > To: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: [Nobbc] Our next ride > > Our next ride will be this coming weekend. I'd like to propose > moving it > to Sunday instead of Saturday (one time only). I'd like to hear any > thoughts, comments, etc. and if there is no outpouring of complaints, > let everyone know by Weds. > > Ron > 58 MGA > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From Cem2col at aol.com Thu Aug 21 10:39:34 2008 From: Cem2col at aol.com (Cem2col at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:39:34 EDT Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic Message-ID: Dear British Car Buffs: Having known Ron Larson since his high school and early career days I can vouch for his skills. He, my daughters and their friends palled around my Palo Alto home during and after High School graduation until they went off to College, moved out of the area. I also remember that he liked my brand of Ale. After reading Tony Corman's message, I called his shop and was happy to find that it was the same Ron Larson I remembered from the late 1970's and early 1980s. He is coming by in the next few days to check out my MK V Jaguar DHC vintage 1950 and My 1953 Sunbeam Alpine. As he has worked on early Volvo's with their S U carburetors, he can skillfully tune our early British cars. Happy motoring on your Sunday event. Brenda and I are off for R & R at Sea Ranch. Sincerely, Charles Medcalf ************** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) From debbiekayrich at yahoo.com Fri Aug 22 12:03:13 2008 From: debbiekayrich at yahoo.com (Deborah Richardson Richardson) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] Mechanic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <606956.70985.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for the information!!! We just got our MGB out of the shop (again). It was there for 6 weeks, because the our domestic car mechanic couldn't figure out what was wrong with it, and we didn't know who else to go to. Hope to see you all Sunday. --- On Thu, 8/21/08, Cem2col at aol.com wrote: From: Cem2col at aol.com Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Mechanic To: nobbc at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 9:39 AM Dear British Car Buffs: Having known Ron Larson since his high school and early career days I can vouch for his skills. He, my daughters and their friends palled around my Palo Alto home during and after High School graduation until they went off to College, moved out of the area. I also remember that he liked my brand of Ale. After reading Tony Corman's message, I called his shop and was happy to find that it was the same Ron Larson I remembered from the late 1970's and early 1980s. He is coming by in the next few days to check out my MK V Jaguar DHC vintage 1950 and My 1953 Sunbeam Alpine. As he has worked on early Volvo's with their S U carburetors, he can skillfully tune our early British cars. Happy motoring on your Sunday event. Brenda and I are off for R & R at Sea Ranch. Sincerely, Charles Medcalf ************** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at pacbell.net Sun Aug 24 20:33:09 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:33:09 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday's drive and a brief technical note... In-Reply-To: <6DA6BC02-8CC3-429F-B164-E336C657A45F@authorspublishing.com> References: <48AA270D.90304@sonic.net> <000301c901a2$28de3230$7a9a9690$@NET> <6DA6BC02-8CC3-429F-B164-E336C657A45F@authorspublishing.com> Message-ID: <48B219E5.7080107@pacbell.net> Hey All, That was a great drive today, and what a nice turnout! Thanks Ron for a great job keeping us all in a tight group. It was also great to see the newer members and get some new cars on the drives. For those of you who did not attend and those who didn't stay through lunch to see John having troubles starting his Lotus after lunch and the subsequent resuscitation, I thought it might be useful to share with members who may not have gone through this before. After cranking with no throttle to no avail, Walt and Dennis suggested open throttle, so we tried 1/2 and wide-open, both to no avail. After verifying we had spark and the fuel pump was working, we saw that the fuel filter in the engine compartment was almost completely empty. We were smelling fumes and assumed we had fuel flow, but the engine wouldn't even cough. A check of the plugs showed no fouling. Finally, we removed the air filters and with John propping up the Stromberg's air valves 1/2-way (constant-depression carbs won't draw up the pistons, even with throttle butterflies open, until the engine starts sucking air), we cranked with 1/2 throttle and the engine fired up. When I lived in So Cal I had an MGB that would cook off gas in the fuel bowls on hot days when parked in the sun, even cooking off fuel in the engine compartment fuel lines. I'd smell what I thought was gas, but was only fumes, and would sometimes not be able to get the engine going until it had cooled enough to clear the fuel line vapor lock and/or fuel bowls. That's what seemed to be the problem today. It was quite a hot day, John's Elan is painted BRG (dark color), and it was parked in the sun. After moving it to the shade, cooling it down, and getting the air intakes open, away she went. The fix for my old MGB was heat shielding on the engine room fuel lines and SU fuel bowls; John's will be cutting two vent holes in the inner fender well, a modification Lotus employed in cars built after John's. Have a great week! Greg and Trish From nobbc at sonic.net Sun Aug 24 20:47:11 2008 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:47:11 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday's drive and a brief technical note... In-Reply-To: <48B219E5.7080107@pacbell.net> References: <48AA270D.90304@sonic.net> <000301c901a2$28de3230$7a9a9690$@NET> <6DA6BC02-8CC3-429F-B164-E336C657A45F@authorspublishing.com> <48B219E5.7080107@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <48B21D2F.80007@sonic.net> It WAS a good ride and beautiful weather! I wasn't able to stay for lunch but this is a familiar problem. I'm always able to start when it's hot but it does run raggedy until enougn fuel pumps up to the bowl to replace the gas that boiled out. On a side note, my car was built exactly 50 years ago tomorrow so she'll be getting a birthday ride tomorrow to celebrate. Think we'll ever see any 50 year old Hyundais? Ron 58 MGA gtwincams wrote: > Hey All, > > That was a great drive today, and what a nice turnout! Thanks Ron for a > great job keeping us all in a tight group. It was also great to see the > newer members and get some new cars on the drives. > > For those of you who did not attend and those who didn't stay through > lunch to see John having troubles starting his Lotus after lunch and the > subsequent resuscitation, I thought it might be useful to share with > members who may not have gone through this before. > > After cranking with no throttle to no avail, Walt and Dennis suggested > open throttle, so we tried 1/2 and wide-open, both to no avail. After > verifying we had spark and the fuel pump was working, we saw that the > fuel filter in the engine compartment was almost completely empty. We > were smelling fumes and assumed we had fuel flow, but the engine > wouldn't even cough. A check of the plugs showed no fouling. Finally, we > removed the air filters and with John propping up the Stromberg's air > valves 1/2-way (constant-depression carbs won't draw up the pistons, > even with throttle butterflies open, until the engine starts sucking > air), we cranked with 1/2 throttle and the engine fired up. > > When I lived in So Cal I had an MGB that would cook off gas in the fuel > bowls on hot days when parked in the sun, even cooking off fuel in the > engine compartment fuel lines. I'd smell what I thought was gas, but was > only fumes, and would sometimes not be able to get the engine going > until it had cooled enough to clear the fuel line vapor lock and/or fuel > bowls. That's what seemed to be the problem today. It was quite a hot > day, John's Elan is painted BRG (dark color), and it was parked in the > sun. After moving it to the shade, cooling it down, and getting the air > intakes open, away she went. The fix for my old MGB was heat shielding > on the engine room fuel lines and SU fuel bowls; John's will be cutting > two vent holes in the inner fender well, a modification Lotus employed > in cars built after John's. > > Have a great week! > > Greg and Trish > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From tonykorman at sbcglobal.net Sun Aug 24 20:48:30 2008 From: tonykorman at sbcglobal.net (tonykorman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:48:30 +0000 Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday's drive and a brief technical note... In-Reply-To: <48B21D2F.80007@sonic.net> References: <48AA270D.90304@sonic.net> <000301c901a2$28de3230$7a9a9690$@NET><6DA6BC02-8CC3-429F-B164-E336C657A45F@authorspublishing.com><48B219E5.7080107@pacbell.net><48B21D2F.80007@sonic.net> Message-ID: Ron What time you leaving and where ya goin Tony Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Ron Engelhardt Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:47:11 To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Sunday's drive and a brief technical note... It WAS a good ride and beautiful weather! I wasn't able to stay for lunch but this is a familiar problem. I'm always able to start when it's hot but it does run raggedy until enougn fuel pumps up to the bowl to replace the gas that boiled out. On a side note, my car was built exactly 50 years ago tomorrow so she'll be getting a birthday ride tomorrow to celebrate. Think we'll ever see any 50 year old Hyundais? Ron 58 MGA gtwincams wrote: > Hey All, > > That was a great drive today, and what a nice turnout! Thanks Ron for a > great job keeping us all in a tight group. It was also great to see the > newer members and get some new cars on the drives. > > For those of you who did not attend and those who didn't stay through > lunch to see John having troubles starting his Lotus after lunch and the > subsequent resuscitation, I thought it might be useful to share with > members who may not have gone through this before. > > After cranking with no throttle to no avail, Walt and Dennis suggested > open throttle, so we tried 1/2 and wide-open, both to no avail. After > verifying we had spark and the fuel pump was working, we saw that the > fuel filter in the engine compartment was almost completely empty. We > were smelling fumes and assumed we had fuel flow, but the engine > wouldn't even cough. A check of the plugs showed no fouling. Finally, we > removed the air filters and with John propping up the Stromberg's air > valves 1/2-way (constant-depression carbs won't draw up the pistons, > even with throttle butterflies open, until the engine starts sucking > air), we cranked with 1/2 throttle and the engine fired up. > > When I lived in So Cal I had an MGB that would cook off gas in the fuel > bowls on hot days when parked in the sun, even cooking off fuel in the > engine compartment fuel lines. I'd smell what I thought was gas, but was > only fumes, and would sometimes not be able to get the engine going > until it had cooled enough to clear the fuel line vapor lock and/or fuel > bowls. That's what seemed to be the problem today. It was quite a hot > day, John's Elan is painted BRG (dark color), and it was parked in the > sun. After moving it to the shade, cooling it down, and getting the air > intakes open, away she went. The fix for my old MGB was heat shielding > on the engine room fuel lines and SU fuel bowls; John's will be cutting > two vent holes in the inner fender well, a modification Lotus employed > in cars built after John's. > > Have a great week! > > Greg and Trish > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at pacbell.net Sun Aug 24 21:01:07 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:01:07 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday's drive and a brief technical note... In-Reply-To: <48B21D2F.80007@sonic.net> References: <48AA270D.90304@sonic.net> <000301c901a2$28de3230$7a9a9690$@NET> <6DA6BC02-8CC3-429F-B164-E336C657A45F@authorspublishing.com> <48B219E5.7080107@pacbell.net> <48B21D2F.80007@sonic.net> Message-ID: <48B22073.60503@pacbell.net> Happy MGA 50th, Ron - isn't that your age as well? You're right, it's a fairly common problem with some cars - I've even it on Jags in the past. The tip in this case was to lift the air valves - we would have been waiting around longer if we hadn't, I believe. Probably not many 50 year old Hyundais in the future, but I'll bet Toyotas and Hondas might be around, especially the more collectible ones. Guess the younger generation will be collecting and conserving those... Cheers, Greg Ron Engelhardt wrote: > It WAS a good ride and beautiful weather! I wasn't able to stay for > lunch but this is a familiar problem. I'm always able to start when it's > hot but it does run raggedy until enougn fuel pumps up to the bowl to > replace the gas that boiled out. > > On a side note, my car was built exactly 50 years ago tomorrow so she'll > be getting a birthday ride tomorrow to celebrate. Think we'll ever see > any 50 year old Hyundais? > > Ron > 58 MGA From norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com Mon Aug 25 10:47:47 2008 From: norman_weinfeld at hotmail.com (Norman Weinfeld) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:47:47 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday's drive and a brief technical note... In-Reply-To: <48AA270D.90304@sonic.net> <000301c901a2$28de3230$7a9a9690$@NET><6DA6BC02-8CC3-429F-B164-E336C657A45F@authorspublishing.com><48B219E5.7080107@pacbell.net> <48B21D2F.80007@sonic.net> <48B22073.60503@pacbell.net> References: <48AA270D.90304@sonic.net> <000301c901a2$28de3230$7a9a9690$@NET><6DA6BC02-8CC3-429F-B164-E336C657A45F@authorspublishing.com><48B219E5.7080107@pacbell.net> <48B21D2F.80007@sonic.net> <48B22073.60503@pacbell.net> Message-ID: Ron et al., A thousand thanks for a magnificent ride yesterday! The weather started out with pea-soup fog at the Golden Gate and this persisted all the way to the substation, where it began to break about 9:30 (I was 45 minutes early! - unheard of...) making for the glorious day we all enjoyed. The ride back to S.F. was something else again. Bumper-to-bumper pretty much all the way in sweltering heat. The XK ran flawlessly though, only getting up to 90 degrees. The electric fan managed to get that down a full 6 degrees though, probably my best test of this need yet. Sorry for peeling off at lunch, but Andy, Marla, and I continued on to Kendall-Jackson to scarf down our already-packed sandwiches. Best, Norm XK140 DHC From: gtwincams Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 8:01 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Sunday's drive and a brief technical note... Happy MGA 50th, Ron - isn't that your age as well? You're right, it's a fairly common problem with some cars - I've even it on Jags in the past. The tip in this case was to lift the air valves - we would have been waiting around longer if we hadn't, I believe. Probably not many 50 year old Hyundais in the future, but I'll bet Toyotas and Hondas might be around, especially the more collectible ones. Guess the younger generation will be collecting and conserving those... Cheers, Greg Ron Engelhardt wrote: > It WAS a good ride and beautiful weather! I wasn't able to stay for > lunch but this is a familiar problem. I'm always able to start when it's > hot but it does run raggedy until enougn fuel pumps up to the bowl to > replace the gas that boiled out. > > On a side note, my car was built exactly 50 years ago tomorrow so she'll > be getting a birthday ride tomorrow to celebrate. Think we'll ever see > any 50 year old Hyundais? > > Ron > 58 MGA _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From wbain at sonic.net Mon Aug 25 14:22:28 2008 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:22:28 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday's drive and a brief technical note... In-Reply-To: <48B21D2F.80007@sonic.net> References: <48AA270D.90304@sonic.net> <000301c901a2$28de3230$7a9a9690$@NET> <6DA6BC02-8CC3-429F-B164-E336C657A45F@authorspublishing.com> <48B219E5.7080107@pacbell.net> <48B21D2F.80007@sonic.net> Message-ID: <6BB5A21B-4965-4D1A-9FB8-A1CD7B26F0EB@sonic.net> Congrats of MG's 50th. Too bad I couldn't make the run. Sounds like all had a good time and the weather was great. Wendell 59 Morgan On Aug 24, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > It WAS a good ride and beautiful weather! I wasn't able to stay for > lunch but this is a familiar problem. I'm always able to start when > it's > hot but it does run raggedy until enougn fuel pumps up to the bowl to > replace the gas that boiled out. > > On a side note, my car was built exactly 50 years ago tomorrow so > she'll > be getting a birthday ride tomorrow to celebrate. Think we'll ever see > any 50 year old Hyundais? > > Ron > 58 MGA > > gtwincams wrote: >> Hey All, >> >> That was a great drive today, and what a nice turnout! Thanks Ron >> for a >> great job keeping us all in a tight group. It was also great to >> see the >> newer members and get some new cars on the drives. >> >> For those of you who did not attend and those who didn't stay through >> lunch to see John having troubles starting his Lotus after lunch >> and the >> subsequent resuscitation, I thought it might be useful to share with >> members who may not have gone through this before. >> >> After cranking with no throttle to no avail, Walt and Dennis >> suggested >> open throttle, so we tried 1/2 and wide-open, both to no avail. After >> verifying we had spark and the fuel pump was working, we saw that the >> fuel filter in the engine compartment was almost completely empty. We >> were smelling fumes and assumed we had fuel flow, but the engine >> wouldn't even cough. A check of the plugs showed no fouling. >> Finally, we >> removed the air filters and with John propping up the Stromberg's air >> valves 1/2-way (constant-depression carbs won't draw up the pistons, >> even with throttle butterflies open, until the engine starts sucking >> air), we cranked with 1/2 throttle and the engine fired up. >> >> When I lived in So Cal I had an MGB that would cook off gas in the >> fuel >> bowls on hot days when parked in the sun, even cooking off fuel in >> the >> engine compartment fuel lines. I'd smell what I thought was gas, >> but was >> only fumes, and would sometimes not be able to get the engine going >> until it had cooled enough to clear the fuel line vapor lock and/ >> or fuel >> bowls. That's what seemed to be the problem today. It was quite a hot >> day, John's Elan is painted BRG (dark color), and it was parked in >> the >> sun. After moving it to the shade, cooling it down, and getting >> the air >> intakes open, away she went. The fix for my old MGB was heat >> shielding >> on the engine room fuel lines and SU fuel bowls; John's will be >> cutting >> two vent holes in the inner fender well, a modification Lotus >> employed >> in cars built after John's. >> >> Have a great week! >> >> Greg and Trish >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From apexbrit at msn.com Mon Aug 25 17:51:58 2008 From: apexbrit at msn.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:51:58 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] email address change Message-ID: Please change my email address from the above to this: apexbrit2 at gmail.com Cheers, Rob Jackson From nobbc at sonic.net Mon Aug 25 18:50:14 2008 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:50:14 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] email address change In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48B35346.7090301@sonic.net> Robin (and anyone else who wants to make changes), You should go to http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc to change your email address and any other information. There is no place for me to change it (or I'm missing it) without your password! This address is at the bottom of all posts from our list. Ron 58 MGA Robin Jackson wrote: > Please change my email address from the above to this: apexbrit2 at gmail.com > > Cheers, > > Rob Jackson > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From apexbrit at msn.com Mon Aug 25 19:38:26 2008 From: apexbrit at msn.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:38:26 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] email address change In-Reply-To: <48B35346.7090301@sonic.net> References: <48B35346.7090301@sonic.net> Message-ID: Ahha. Thanks, Ron.> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:50:14 -0700> From: nobbc at sonic.net> To: nobbc at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] email address change> > Robin (and anyone else who wants to make changes), You should go to > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc to change your email > address and any other information. There is no place for me to change it > (or I'm missing it) without your password! This address is at the bottom > of all posts from our list.> > Ron> 58 MGA> > Robin Jackson wrote:> > > Please change my email address from the above to this: apexbrit2 at gmail.com> > > > Cheers,> > > > Rob Jackson> > _______________________________________________> > Nobbc mailing list> > Nobbc at autox.team.net> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc> _______________________________________________> Nobbc mailing list> Nobbc at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From wbain at sonic.net Tue Aug 26 11:50:51 2008 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:50:51 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Rebuild a Morgan In-Reply-To: <7D54FBCBFF514EC29A5DD0AEF81BBEA7@melc90a4374d70> References: <7D54FBCBFF514EC29A5DD0AEF81BBEA7@melc90a4374d70> Message-ID: <34AC7E6D-9AE4-4464-A086-EEF7A62E884C@sonic.net> Hi Mel, How's your wood frame project coming along? Hope all is well. If you need help with anything lemme know. Cheers, wb On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:48 AM, Mel Cohen wrote: > I have a 58 Morgan that is now running fine. The problem is the > Wood Frame, > which is now 50 years old. The doors hinges are weak, etc. > > > > Does anyone have any ideas? I could either sell the car to someone > that > wants to rebuild it or I can find someone who can do it for me. > > > > > > Mel Cohen - 58 Plus 4 Morgan - the Napaguy > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From andypreston at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 26 19:42:12 2008 From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (Andy Preston) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:42:12 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday's drive and a brief technical note... In-Reply-To: <48B219E5.7080107@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <20080827014150.2CE5118764D@autox.team.net> Ron, that was one of the best rides we've done in a long time. I loved the figure 8 route using different roads all the time. I'm probably going to use that route for another ride in the future. I'm sorry we got to miss Greg wielding the wrenches and analyzing the problem with John's Lotus. I think Greg is one of the most talented car enthusiast I know and willing to share information all the time. We had already bought sandwiches and so went off to Kendall Jackson with Norman and had a great picnic in their beautiful grounds. The turn out was great you might want to think about going back to Sundays in the future for the second ride. Great day and happy 50th. for you car. Andy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of gtwincams Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 7:33 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday's drive and a brief technical note... Hey All, That was a great drive today, and what a nice turnout! Thanks Ron for a great job keeping us all in a tight group. It was also great to see the newer members and get some new cars on the drives. For those of you who did not attend and those who didn't stay through lunch to see John having troubles starting his Lotus after lunch and the subsequent resuscitation, I thought it might be useful to share with members who may not have gone through this before. After cranking with no throttle to no avail, Walt and Dennis suggested open throttle, so we tried 1/2 and wide-open, both to no avail. After verifying we had spark and the fuel pump was working, we saw that the fuel filter in the engine compartment was almost completely empty. We were smelling fumes and assumed we had fuel flow, but the engine wouldn't even cough. A check of the plugs showed no fouling. Finally, we removed the air filters and with John propping up the Stromberg's air valves 1/2-way (constant-depression carbs won't draw up the pistons, even with throttle butterflies open, until the engine starts sucking air), we cranked with 1/2 throttle and the engine fired up. When I lived in So Cal I had an MGB that would cook off gas in the fuel bowls on hot days when parked in the sun, even cooking off fuel in the engine compartment fuel lines. I'd smell what I thought was gas, but was only fumes, and would sometimes not be able to get the engine going until it had cooled enough to clear the fuel line vapor lock and/or fuel bowls. That's what seemed to be the problem today. It was quite a hot day, John's Elan is painted BRG (dark color), and it was parked in the sun. After moving it to the shade, cooling it down, and getting the air intakes open, away she went. The fix for my old MGB was heat shielding on the engine room fuel lines and SU fuel bowls; John's will be cutting two vent holes in the inner fender well, a modification Lotus employed in cars built after John's. Have a great week! Greg and Trish _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Tue Aug 26 20:20:02 2008 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:20:02 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday's drive and a brief technical note... In-Reply-To: <20080827014150.2CE5118764D@autox.team.net> References: <20080827014150.2CE5118764D@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <48B4B9D2.4070706@sonic.net> It was a great ride, we should go through Napa County more often...maybe up to Lake Berryessa, haven't done that in a while. I missed Greg's wrenching also but have enjoyed his Tech sessions in the past. I'll leave the Sunday ride decision up to the majority, seems like Saturday won out last time but let's hear from all of you and maybe a change is in order. When we started the club, rides were only on Saturdays, then for a few years, 2nd Saturday and 4th Sunday. Is it time for another change? Ron 58 MGA Andy Preston wrote: > Ron, that was one of the best rides we've done in a long time. I loved the > figure 8 route using different roads all the time. I'm probably going to > use that route for another ride in the future. I'm sorry we got to miss > Greg wielding the wrenches and analyzing the problem with John's Lotus. I > think Greg is one of the most talented car enthusiast I know and willing to > share information all the time. We had already bought sandwiches and so > went off to Kendall Jackson with Norman and had a great picnic in their > beautiful grounds. The turn out was great you might want to think about > going back to Sundays in the future for the second ride. > > Great day and happy 50th. for you car. > > > Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of gtwincams > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 7:33 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday's drive and a brief technical note... > > Hey All, > > That was a great drive today, and what a nice turnout! Thanks Ron for a > great job keeping us all in a tight group. It was also great to see the > newer members and get some new cars on the drives. > > For those of you who did not attend and those who didn't stay through > lunch to see John having troubles starting his Lotus after lunch and the > subsequent resuscitation, I thought it might be useful to share with > members who may not have gone through this before. > > After cranking with no throttle to no avail, Walt and Dennis suggested > open throttle, so we tried 1/2 and wide-open, both to no avail. After > verifying we had spark and the fuel pump was working, we saw that the > fuel filter in the engine compartment was almost completely empty. We > were smelling fumes and assumed we had fuel flow, but the engine > wouldn't even cough. A check of the plugs showed no fouling. Finally, we > removed the air filters and with John propping up the Stromberg's air > valves 1/2-way (constant-depression carbs won't draw up the pistons, > even with throttle butterflies open, until the engine starts sucking > air), we cranked with 1/2 throttle and the engine fired up. > > When I lived in So Cal I had an MGB that would cook off gas in the fuel > bowls on hot days when parked in the sun, even cooking off fuel in the > engine compartment fuel lines. I'd smell what I thought was gas, but was > only fumes, and would sometimes not be able to get the engine going > until it had cooled enough to clear the fuel line vapor lock and/or fuel > bowls. That's what seemed to be the problem today. It was quite a hot > day, John's Elan is painted BRG (dark color), and it was parked in the > sun. After moving it to the shade, cooling it down, and getting the air > intakes open, away she went. The fix for my old MGB was heat shielding > on the engine room fuel lines and SU fuel bowls; John's will be cutting > two vent holes in the inner fender well, a modification Lotus employed > in cars built after John's. > > Have a great week! > > Greg and Trish > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET Tue Aug 26 21:05:48 2008 From: FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET (JULIA KENNER) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:05:48 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday's drive and a brief technical note... In-Reply-To: <48B4B9D2.4070706@sonic.net> References: <20080827014150.2CE5118764D@autox.team.net> <48B4B9D2.4070706@sonic.net> Message-ID: <000001c907f1$cecd3ec0$6c67bc40$@NET> I like Sunday John -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:20 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Sunday's drive and a brief technical note... It was a great ride, we should go through Napa County more often...maybe up to Lake Berryessa, haven't done that in a while. I missed Greg's wrenching also but have enjoyed his Tech sessions in the past. I'll leave the Sunday ride decision up to the majority, seems like Saturday won out last time but let's hear from all of you and maybe a change is in order. When we started the club, rides were only on Saturdays, then for a few years, 2nd Saturday and 4th Sunday. Is it time for another change? Ron 58 MGA Andy Preston wrote: > Ron, that was one of the best rides we've done in a long time. I loved the > figure 8 route using different roads all the time. I'm probably going to > use that route for another ride in the future. I'm sorry we got to miss > Greg wielding the wrenches and analyzing the problem with John's Lotus. I > think Greg is one of the most talented car enthusiast I know and willing to > share information all the time. We had already bought sandwiches and so > went off to Kendall Jackson with Norman and had a great picnic in their > beautiful grounds. The turn out was great you might want to think about > going back to Sundays in the future for the second ride. > > Great day and happy 50th. for you car. > > > Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of gtwincams > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 7:33 PM > To: North Bay British Car Club > Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday's drive and a brief technical note... > > Hey All, > > That was a great drive today, and what a nice turnout! Thanks Ron for a > great job keeping us all in a tight group. It was also great to see the > newer members and get some new cars on the drives. > > For those of you who did not attend and those who didn't stay through > lunch to see John having troubles starting his Lotus after lunch and the > subsequent resuscitation, I thought it might be useful to share with > members who may not have gone through this before. > > After cranking with no throttle to no avail, Walt and Dennis suggested > open throttle, so we tried 1/2 and wide-open, both to no avail. After > verifying we had spark and the fuel pump was working, we saw that the > fuel filter in the engine compartment was almost completely empty. We > were smelling fumes and assumed we had fuel flow, but the engine > wouldn't even cough. A check of the plugs showed no fouling. Finally, we > removed the air filters and with John propping up the Stromberg's air > valves 1/2-way (constant-depression carbs won't draw up the pistons, > even with throttle butterflies open, until the engine starts sucking > air), we cranked with 1/2 throttle and the engine fired up. > > When I lived in So Cal I had an MGB that would cook off gas in the fuel > bowls on hot days when parked in the sun, even cooking off fuel in the > engine compartment fuel lines. I'd smell what I thought was gas, but was > only fumes, and would sometimes not be able to get the engine going > until it had cooled enough to clear the fuel line vapor lock and/or fuel > bowls. That's what seemed to be the problem today. It was quite a hot > day, John's Elan is painted BRG (dark color), and it was parked in the > sun. After moving it to the shade, cooling it down, and getting the air > intakes open, away she went. The fix for my old MGB was heat shielding > on the engine room fuel lines and SU fuel bowls; John's will be cutting > two vent holes in the inner fender well, a modification Lotus employed > in cars built after John's. > > Have a great week! > > Greg and Trish > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sand at frii.com Tue Aug 26 21:46:35 2008 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:46:35 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] will take some s.u. help myself-mountainclimbing Message-ID: <2291FAC6E5804A79A4F7699C5307EF9E@stevewbxu6x2qe> here,s what i get sometimes- seems like ether front or rear carb runs out of fuel on steep uphill climps- it will return to normal soon as going downhill or level ground- it will do this no matter what r.p.m. sounds and feels like it has dropped to 2 cyls- if you lift off a floored pedel it for just a quick second will hit all 4 but then just go back to 2 (of course a great r.p.m. loss and drop to lower gear. could rear carb be getting overfilled (reset float lower)-or maybe front carb get,s low ??? typical duel su carb setup-(tr4-a) it on rare ocashions will do this on flat freeways but then by itself return to normal. (flat freeways means 5,000 ft. elev- mountain climbs mean 9,000-11,700 elev.) car also on mountain climbs likes to shoot up and run abought 200-205 deg F. cools right back down after summits. on climbs i retard timeing back to maybe 0-2 deg b.t.d.c. cooling system is clean-160 deg stat. and 50-50 mix. never has boiled over. runs a big elect. fan. never could figure out this part time carburator. ill take ideas- thanks- steve. From gtwincams at pacbell.net Wed Aug 27 16:19:24 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:19:24 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday's drive and a brief technical note... In-Reply-To: <48B4B9D2.4070706@sonic.net> References: <20080827014150.2CE5118764D@autox.team.net> <48B4B9D2.4070706@sonic.net> Message-ID: <48B5D2EC.7010900@pacbell.net> Thanks for the kind words, Ron and Andy, however to give credit where it is due, though I had the right diagnosis, Walt and Dennis were quick to come up with the solution of going throttles open. I called it the consensus solution because it took some bouncing around of ideas before we combined Walt and Dennis' solution with lifting the air valves. I mention this also to bring to light the latent talent and experience that is present in our club - there are little gems of knowledge and experience out there, and it would be great to put together tips, ideas and solutions to British car foibles that other members would benefit from. It could be a regular thing on this list, or perhaps one of us could collect such info from members and have Tcherek post them on the web site. Many car clubs do this in one form or another - we've got some accrued experience in our bunch! Just a thought. Cheers, all, Greg From gtwincams at pacbell.net Wed Aug 27 16:26:48 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:26:48 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] will take some s.u. help myself-mountainclimbing In-Reply-To: <2291FAC6E5804A79A4F7699C5307EF9E@stevewbxu6x2qe> References: <2291FAC6E5804A79A4F7699C5307EF9E@stevewbxu6x2qe> Message-ID: <48B5D4A8.5060005@pacbell.net> Hi Steve, I think your idea sounds like a logical possibility. It's never happened to me and no one has mentioned that problem to me before, but the tilt effect does lead one to consider the flooded carb idea... Does your car smoke (oil)? Another possibility (though not my preferred one) could be that oil backs up at the back of the head going uphill, and is being pulled down valve guides, fouling the plugs. Just a thought, since these Triumphs (and Lotuses by the way) don't have valve guide seals. In fact, many Lotus twin cam engines suffer from this effect to varying degrees. Anyhow, a check of your float levels would be a good idea, I'd think. Also, make sure you don't have any leaks. Cheers, Greg From gtwincams at pacbell.net Wed Aug 27 17:50:21 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:50:21 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] SMOG CHECKS FOR CARS 15+ BEING PROPOSED!! In-Reply-To: <48B5D4A8.5060005@pacbell.net> References: <2291FAC6E5804A79A4F7699C5307EF9E@stevewbxu6x2qe> <48B5D4A8.5060005@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <48B5E83D.5000900@pacbell.net> Those of you attending the last drive may have heard our discussion about a move to make all cars 15 years and older pass smog. Well, this was not just a "what-if", as you will see from this email from Moss Motors. Greg You've subscribed to Moss Motors communications. For best delivery, please add *reply at mossmotors.com* to your address book or safe sender list. 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Furthermore, the bill would direct that the funds generated through annual inspection fees be used to scrap older cars. This represents another attempt by California legislators and regulators to scapegoat older cars. This is the type of activity that fuels distrust in public officials. SEMA caught this lawmaker's underhanded attempt to circumvent public process and is now calling on you to help defeat A.B 3053 before it's too late. *Time is of the Essence! 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From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Wed Aug 27 20:47:37 2008 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:47:37 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] will take some s.u. help myself-mountainclimbing In-Reply-To: <2291FAC6E5804A79A4F7699C5307EF9E@stevewbxu6x2qe> References: <2291FAC6E5804A79A4F7699C5307EF9E@stevewbxu6x2qe> Message-ID: <95a735e60808271947r78e9cb5bnb2189060cc56d5a3@mail.gmail.com> Hello Steve - Have been mulling over you prob and think I would try to isolate circumstances when it occurs. We know it occurs on inclines under load. I would see if it happens on inclines while stopped. I would park on an incline and see what happens at idle, 3,000rpm, and 5,000rpm. If yes, probably fuel related. (note probably) If no, could possibly be something else (as Greg suggested) or electrical. Like even loss of a good ground on an incline could be a factor. Wish I could help; hands on the car, as I am used to... Keep in touch. And check the float levels. Rob On 8/26/08, Steve Lehmann wrote: > > here,s what i get sometimes- > seems like ether front or rear carb runs out of fuel on steep uphill > climps- > it will return to normal soon as going downhill or level ground- > it will do this no matter what r.p.m. > sounds and feels like it has dropped to 2 cyls- > if you lift off a floored pedel it for just a quick second will hit all 4 > but > then just go back to 2 (of course a great r.p.m. loss and drop to lower > gear. > > could rear carb be getting overfilled (reset float lower)-or maybe front > carb > get,s low ??? > typical duel su carb setup-(tr4-a) > > it on rare ocashions will do this on flat freeways but then by itself > return > to normal. > > (flat freeways means 5,000 ft. elev- > mountain climbs mean 9,000-11,700 elev.) > > car also on mountain climbs likes to shoot up and run abought 200-205 deg > F. > cools right back down after summits. > > on climbs i retard timeing back to maybe 0-2 deg b.t.d.c. > cooling system is clean-160 deg stat. and 50-50 mix. > never has boiled over. > runs a big elect. fan. > > never could figure out this part time carburator. > ill take ideas- > thanks- steve. > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Wed Aug 27 20:52:58 2008 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:52:58 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] will take some s.u. help myself-mountainclimbing In-Reply-To: <95a735e60808271947r78e9cb5bnb2189060cc56d5a3@mail.gmail.com> References: <2291FAC6E5804A79A4F7699C5307EF9E@stevewbxu6x2qe> <95a735e60808271947r78e9cb5bnb2189060cc56d5a3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <95a735e60808271952l4b834838g7a105fd535869029@mail.gmail.com> One other thing (that you probably know): change the fuel filter even if it looks like it works well. On 8/27/08, Robin Jackson wrote: > > Hello Steve - Have been mulling over you prob and think I would try to > isolate circumstances when it occurs. > > We know it occurs on inclines under load. I would see if it happens on > inclines while stopped. I would park on an incline and see what happens at > idle, 3,000rpm, and 5,000rpm. If yes, probably fuel related. (note probably) > If no, could possibly be something else (as Greg suggested) or electrical. > Like even loss of a good ground on an incline could be a factor. > > Wish I could help; hands on the car, as I am used to... > > Keep in touch. And check the float levels. > > Rob > > > > > On 8/26/08, Steve Lehmann wrote: >> >> here,s what i get sometimes- >> seems like ether front or rear carb runs out of fuel on steep uphill >> climps- >> it will return to normal soon as going downhill or level ground- >> it will do this no matter what r.p.m. >> sounds and feels like it has dropped to 2 cyls- >> if you lift off a floored pedel it for just a quick second will hit all 4 >> but >> then just go back to 2 (of course a great r.p.m. loss and drop to lower >> gear. >> >> could rear carb be getting overfilled (reset float lower)-or maybe front >> carb >> get,s low ??? >> typical duel su carb setup-(tr4-a) >> >> it on rare ocashions will do this on flat freeways but then by itself >> return >> to normal. >> >> (flat freeways means 5,000 ft. elev- >> mountain climbs mean 9,000-11,700 elev.) >> >> car also on mountain climbs likes to shoot up and run abought 200-205 deg >> F. >> cools right back down after summits. >> >> on climbs i retard timeing back to maybe 0-2 deg b.t.d.c. >> cooling system is clean-160 deg stat. and 50-50 mix. >> never has boiled over. >> runs a big elect. fan. >> >> never could figure out this part time carburator. >> ill take ideas- >> thanks- steve. >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From wbain at sonic.net Thu Aug 28 11:06:09 2008 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:06:09 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] SMOG CHECKS FOR CARS 15+ BEING PROPOSED!! In-Reply-To: <48B5E83D.5000900@pacbell.net> References: <2291FAC6E5804A79A4F7699C5307EF9E@stevewbxu6x2qe> <48B5D4A8.5060005@pacbell.net> <48B5E83D.5000900@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <26D8B9BA-5A0B-4331-8DC0-1F27CB999C6E@sonic.net> Hi Greg, Thanks for the tip on this. They never seem to give trying. Cheers, Wendell On Aug 27, 2008, at 4:50 PM, gtwincams wrote: > Those of you attending the last drive may have heard our discussion > about a move to make all cars 15 years and older pass smog. Well, this > was not just a "what-if", as you will see from this email from Moss > Motors. > > Greg > > You've subscribed to Moss Motors > communications. For best delivery, please add > *reply at mossmotors.com* to > your address book or safe sender list. > To view this email in your browser click here > p=0000015Fu8vs3gfDEj3gmLhu0mudcQqA==>. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > *Immediate Action Needed!* > *Committee Hearing set for August 28. Call Now!!!* > > In an effort to avoid public scrutiny, California Assemblyman Dave > Jones > (Assemblymember.jones at assembly.ca.gov > ) has amended a > completely > unrelated bill with language to require annual Smog check inspections > for vehicles 15-years old and older. This represents an obvious > attempt > to sneak through legislation in the closing days of the legislative > session that had been previously defeated (A.B. 616). *The new bill is > designated as A.B. 3053.* > > While pre-1976 motor vehicles would remain exempt under existing > California law, this proposal ignores the fact that vehicles 15-years > old and older still constitute a small portion of the overall vehicle > population and are a poor source from which to look for emissions > reduction. Furthermore, the bill would direct that the funds > generated > through annual inspection fees be used to scrap older cars. This > represents another attempt by California legislators and regulators to > scapegoat older cars. > > This is the type of activity that fuels distrust in public > officials. SEMA caught this lawmaker's underhanded attempt to > circumvent > public process and is now calling on you to help defeat A.B 3053 > before > it's too late. > > *Time is of the Essence! We Urge You to Call the California Senate > Appropriations Committee (List Below) Immediately to Oppose A.B. 3053* > > *_ > California Senate Appropriations Committee_* > > Senator Tom Torlakson -- Chair > Phone: 916/651-4007 > Email: senator.torlakson at sen.ca.gov > > > Senator Dave Cox > Phone: 916/651-4001 > Email: senator.cox at sen.ca.gov > > Senator Sam Aanestad > Phone: 916/651-4004 > Email: senator.aanestad at sen.ca.gov > > > Senator Roy Ashburn > Phone: 916/651-4018 > Email: senator.ashburn at sen.ca.gov > > Senator Gilbert Cedillo > Phone: 916/651-4022 > Email: senator.cedillo at sen.ca.gov > > Senator Ellen Corbett > Phone: 916/651-4010 > > Senator Robert Dutton > Phone: 916/651-4031 > Email: senator.dutton at sen.ca.gov > > Senator Dean Florez > Phone: 916/651-4016 > Email: senator.florez at sen.ca.gov > > Senator Sheila Kuehl > Phone: 916/651-4023 > Email: senator.kuehl at sen.ca.gov > > Senator Jenny Oropeza > Phone: 916/651-4028 > > Senator Mark Ridley-Thomas > Phone: 916/651-4026 > > Senator George Runner > Phone: 916/651-4017 > Email: senator.runner at sen.ca.gov > > Senator Joe Simitian > Phone: 916/651-4011 > Email: senator.simitian at sen.ca.gov > > > Senator Mark Wyland > Phone: 916/651-4038 > > Senator Leland Yee > Phone: 916/651-4008 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Trouble viewing this email? 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For best delivery, please add > *reply at mossmotors.com* to > your address book or safe sender list. > 440 Rutherford Street, Goleta, CA 93117, USA > Review our Privacy Policy > and > Acceptable > Use Policy . > Unsubscribe > client=moss&campaign=935&email=gregtat at pacbell.net> > or manage your Subscription Preferences > client=moss&campaign=935&email=gregtat at pacbell.net> > > > Crafted and delivered by Moss Motors' Mail Dog > ! > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at pacbell.net Thu Aug 28 11:24:59 2008 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:24:59 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] SMOG CHECKS FOR CARS 15+ BEING PROPOSED!! In-Reply-To: <26D8B9BA-5A0B-4331-8DC0-1F27CB999C6E@sonic.net> References: <2291FAC6E5804A79A4F7699C5307EF9E@stevewbxu6x2qe> <48B5D4A8.5060005@pacbell.net> <48B5E83D.5000900@pacbell.net> <26D8B9BA-5A0B-4331-8DC0-1F27CB999C6E@sonic.net> Message-ID: <48B6DF6B.3000803@pacbell.net> You are welcome, Wendell. It's such a pain to have to fight against this stuff all the time, and it doesn't seem like our members are the activist types, but the situation has not improved, it's only gotten worse. We're being used by politicians to score points - we're easy targets. Cheers, Greg From wbain at sonic.net Thu Aug 28 12:37:14 2008 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:37:14 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Fwd: A.B. 3053 References: Message-ID: <3AF3C283-7902-4176-8FF9-95555EF77F99@sonic.net> Here some interesting input. Senator Runner seems to be fair in his assessment of this bill. You may want to follow the bills progress at the address below. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Runner, George" > Date: August 28, 2008 11:14:41 AM PDT > To: "wendell bain" > Subject: RE: A.B. 3053 > > Dear Mr. Bain: > > Thank you for your correspondence expressing opposition to Assembly > Bill > 3053 (Jones), which requires vehicles 15 years or older, except for > pre-1976 model cars currently exempted from smog checks, to undergo > annual, instead of biennial, smog inspections. > > Last week, the bill was amended into this version. I oppose it > because > it seeks to justify doubling the cost of complying with Smog Check > on a > vast segment of the vehicle fleet under the supposition that > statistically these vehicles are more likely to fail, or once > repaired, > more likely fail again at a later date. This argument seems to be > predicated, at least statistically, on the philosophy that these > vehicles are guilty until proven innocent. > > AB 3053 is scheduled to be heard in Senate Appropriations Committee > sometime this week. You may monitor the progress of this bill at > www.sen.ca.gov/runner. > > Again, thank you for taking the time to share your concerns with me. > Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future regarding > legislative > issues of concern to you. It is an honor to serve you in the > California > State Senate. > > Sincerely, > > GEORGE C. RUNNER, JR. > Senator, 17th District > > > P.S. For information about the current status of the budget, please > visit www.senaterepublicanbudget.com. > > -----Original Message----- > From: wendell bain [mailto:wbain at sonic.net] > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:50 AM > To: Senator Runner > Subject: A.B. 3053 > > Dear Senate Representative, > > For the reasons listed below I feel A.B. 3053 is not justified. My > 1959 Morgan Plus 4 > brings a smile to all who see it and as it's driven 2,500 or less a > year and is very well > maintained is not a factor in air quality. > Please consider this in when voting on this Bill. > > Thank you, > > Wendell Bain > 7508 bobbie Way > Rohnert Park, CA 94928 > 707-795-0260 > wbain at sonic.net > > *Immediate Action Needed!* > *Committee Hearing set for August 28. Call Now!!!* > > In an effort to avoid public scrutiny, California Assemblyman Dave > Jones > (Assemblymember.jones at assembly.ca.gov > ) has amended a > completely > unrelated bill with language to require annual Smog check inspections > for vehicles 15-years old and older. This represents an obvious > attempt > to sneak through legislation in the closing days of the legislative > session that had been previously defeated (A.B. 616). *The new bill is > designated as A.B. 3053.* > > While pre-1976 motor vehicles would remain exempt under existing > California law, this proposal ignores the fact that vehicles 15-years > old and older still constitute a small portion of the overall vehicle > population and are a poor source from which to look for emissions > reduction. Furthermore, the bill would direct that the funds > generated > through annual inspection fees be used to scrap older cars. This > represents another attempt by California legislators and regulators to > scapegoat older cars. From mewgull at sonic.net Thu Aug 28 11:26:39 2008 From: mewgull at sonic.net (G. Mugele) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:26:39 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] SMOG CHECKS FOR CARS 15+ BEING PROPOSED!! In-Reply-To: <26D8B9BA-5A0B-4331-8DC0-1F27CB999C6E@sonic.net> References: <2291FAC6E5804A79A4F7699C5307EF9E@stevewbxu6x2qe> <48B5D4A8.5060005@pacbell.net> <48B5E83D.5000900@pacbell.net> <26D8B9BA-5A0B-4331-8DC0-1F27CB999C6E@sonic.net> Message-ID: <7D4EEAB2-0690-4182-B04C-48ECA1A95C41@sonic.net> Hi all, New guy here. I'm not sure I get it. The current regs require smog checks for everything newer than '76 don't they? How will this change for vehicles from '76 to '93? I realize that I'm missing something but I can't see what that is. Please enlighten me. On Aug 28, 2008, at 10:06 AM, wendell bain wrote: > Hi Greg, > > Thanks for the tip on this. They never seem to give trying. > > Cheers, > > Wendell G. Mugele mewgull at mugele.net *** The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."  Winston Churchill From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Fri Aug 29 11:26:06 2008 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:26:06 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Morgan Related Message-ID: <95a735e60808291026u57382e72gd1b0538ee3b6253b@mail.gmail.com> http://www.jakesmorganbooks.co.uk/ Jake Alderman has done an extensive history of Morgans ( 400 pages) from 1954-1960. He interviewed most of the California Morgan racers of the period and took copies of our pictures, some of which are included in his book. Lew Spencer wrote an intro. Above is the link to his site which includes nice photos. Cheers, Rob From napaguy at comcast.net Fri Aug 29 21:54:59 2008 From: napaguy at comcast.net (Mel Cohen) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:54:59 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Morgan Related In-Reply-To: <95a735e60808291026u57382e72gd1b0538ee3b6253b@mail.gmail.com> References: <95a735e60808291026u57382e72gd1b0538ee3b6253b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <382B626AB6254BF8B85C3C78DF778349@melc90a4374d70> Thank you very much for this information. As a Morgan guy I appreciate this information. Mel - the Napaguy -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robin Jackson Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 10:26 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Morgan Related http://www.jakesmorganbooks.co.uk/ Jake Alderman has done an extensive history of Morgans ( 400 pages) from 1954-1960. He interviewed most of the California Morgan racers of the period and took copies of our pictures, some of which are included in his book. Lew Spencer wrote an intro. Above is the link to his site which includes nice photos. Cheers, Rob _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From apexbrit at msn.com Sat Aug 30 10:56:26 2008 From: apexbrit at msn.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:56:26 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Morgan Related Message-ID: Thanks, Mel, glad to help Mog people. I have owned three over the years. I used to enjoy the Plus Four Club and "convoying" to the races where we'd pit together and help eachother out getting the cars ready to race. Cheers, Rob > From: napaguy at comcast.net> To: nobbc at autox.team.net> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:54:59 -0700> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Morgan Related> > Thank you very much for this information.> > As a Morgan guy I appreciate this information.> > > Mel - the Napaguy> > -----Original Message-----> From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On> Behalf Of Robin Jackson> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 10:26 AM> To: North Bay British Car Club> Subject: [Nobbc] Morgan Related> > http://www.jakesmorganbooks.co.uk/> > > Jake Alderman has done an extensive history of Morgans ( 400 pages) from> 1954-1960. He interviewed most of the California Morgan racers of the period> and took copies of our pictures, some of which are included in his book. Lew> Spencer wrote an intro.> > Above is the link to his site which includes nice photos.> > Cheers,> > Rob> _______________________________________________> Nobbc mailing list> Nobbc at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc> _______________________________________________> Nobbc mailing list> Nobbc at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From apexbrit2 at gmail.com Sat Aug 30 11:01:39 2008 From: apexbrit2 at gmail.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:01:39 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Morgan Related In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <95a735e60808301001m3ef1cc56mec4717a802b11a9@mail.gmail.com> Here's one of the pics I sent Jake Alderson. San Luis Opispo, 1959, I believe. That's me in the middle trying to get through! On 8/30/08, Robin Jackson wrote: > > Thanks, Mel, glad to help Mog people. I have owned three over the years. I > used to enjoy the Plus Four Club and "convoying" to the races where we'd > pit > together and help eachother out getting the cars ready to race. > > Cheers, Rob > From: napaguy at comcast.net> To: nobbc at autox.team.net> Date: > Fri, > 29 Aug 2008 20:54:59 -0700> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Morgan Related> > Thank > you > very much for this information.> > As a Morgan guy I appreciate this > information.> > > Mel - the Napaguy> > -----Original Message-----> From: > nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On> > Behalf > Of Robin Jackson> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 10:26 AM> To: North Bay > British Car Club> Subject: [Nobbc] Morgan Related> > > http://www.jakesmorganbooks.co.uk/> > > Jake Alderman has done an > extensive > history of Morgans ( 400 pages) from> 1954-1960. He interviewed most of the > California Morgan racers of the period> and took copies of our pictures, > some > of which are included in his book. Lew> Spencer wrote an intro.> > Above is > the link to his site which includes nice photos.> > Cheers,> > Rob> > _______________________________________________> Nobbc mailing list> > Nobbc at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc> > _______________________________________________> Nobbc mailing list> > Nobbc at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of farrar.JPG] From wbain at sonic.net Sat Aug 30 11:33:45 2008 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:33:45 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Morgan Related In-Reply-To: <95a735e60808301001m3ef1cc56mec4717a802b11a9@mail.gmail.com> References: <95a735e60808301001m3ef1cc56mec4717a802b11a9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3015A9BF-5414-450E-9D72-3FA2A273443C@sonic.net> This is a really interesting website. Greatly appreciated. Wendell 59 Morgan +4 two seater On Aug 30, 2008, at 10:01 AM, Robin Jackson wrote: > Here's one of the pics I sent Jake Alderson. San Luis Opispo, 1959, I > believe. That's me in the middle trying to get through! > > On 8/30/08, Robin Jackson wrote: >> >> Thanks, Mel, glad to help Mog people. I have owned three over the >> years. I >> used to enjoy the Plus Four Club and "convoying" to the races >> where we'd >> pit >> together and help eachother out getting the cars ready to race. >> >> Cheers, Rob > From: napaguy at comcast.net> To: nobbc at autox.team.net> >> Date: >> Fri, >> 29 Aug 2008 20:54:59 -0700> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Morgan Related> > >> Thank >> you >> very much for this information.> > As a Morgan guy I appreciate this >> information.> > > Mel - the Napaguy> > -----Original Message-----> >> From: >> nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] >> On> >> Behalf >> Of Robin Jackson> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 10:26 AM> To: >> North Bay >> British Car Club> Subject: [Nobbc] Morgan Related> > >> http://www.jakesmorganbooks.co.uk/> > > Jake Alderman has done an >> extensive >> history of Morgans ( 400 pages) from> 1954-1960. He interviewed >> most of the >> California Morgan racers of the period> and took copies of our >> pictures, >> some >> of which are included in his book. Lew> Spencer wrote an intro.> > >> Above is >> the link to his site which includes nice photos.> > Cheers,> > Rob> >> _______________________________________________> Nobbc mailing list> >> Nobbc at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc> >> _______________________________________________> Nobbc mailing list> >> Nobbc at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a > name of farrar.JPG] > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From don at napanet.net Sat Aug 30 20:47:40 2008 From: don at napanet.net (don) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:47:40 -0800 Subject: [Nobbc] Auto body work and paint In-Reply-To: <3015A9BF-5414-450E-9D72-3FA2A273443C@sonic.net> References: <95a735e60808301001m3ef1cc56mec4717a802b11a9@mail.gmail.com> <3015A9BF-5414-450E-9D72-3FA2A273443C@sonic.net> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.1.20080830184005.02e25b00@pop.napanet.net> I live in Calistoga, and have a couple of old British sports cars. Several years ago, I had my B GT painted by a fellow who lived in the rural area outside Sebastopol. He did a wonderful job at a reasonable price. The quality of the finish was better than when the car was new. I've also got a fellow who lives between here and Santa Rosa who has helped with body work, retired, who works out of his home. He welded in a dogleg and did some prep work on the car prior to painting. The painter moved and the auto body fellow is getting on in years. Do any of you guys on this list know of people who are like the ones cited above who do good work in a shadetree setting? I have a TR4 lined up to purchase that has a dent and a rough panel, so will need a bit of body and paint work. Thanks! Don Scott Calistoga '62 MGA Mk II '73 MGB GT (for sale) '91 Miata BRG -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.13/1642 - Release Date: 08/29/2008 6:12 PM From FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET Sun Aug 31 10:04:57 2008 From: FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET (JULIA KENNER) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:04:57 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Auto body work and paint In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.1.20080830184005.02e25b00@pop.napanet.net> References: <95a735e60808301001m3ef1cc56mec4717a802b11a9@mail.gmail.com> <3015A9BF-5414-450E-9D72-3FA2A273443C@sonic.net> <6.0.3.0.1.20080830184005.02e25b00@pop.napanet.net> Message-ID: <000001c90b83$50fdee50$f2f9caf0$@NET> DON, THE FELLOW YOU ARE REFFERING TO OUTSIDE OF SEBASTOPOL IS PROBABLY RON WHEELER OF FORESTVILLE. HE IS CURRENTLY RESTORING THE BODY ON MY TR250. A GREAT FELLOW WHO DOES GREAT WORK. HE WILL ONLY DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. HIS # IS ON THE T-SHIRT I'M WEARING RIGHT NOW:707 887 7030 JOHN KENNER -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of don Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:48 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Auto body work and paint I live in Calistoga, and have a couple of old British sports cars. Several years ago, I had my B GT painted by a fellow who lived in the rural area outside Sebastopol. He did a wonderful job at a reasonable price. The quality of the finish was better than when the car was new. I've also got a fellow who lives between here and Santa Rosa who has helped with body work, retired, who works out of his home. He welded in a dogleg and did some prep work on the car prior to painting. The painter moved and the auto body fellow is getting on in years. Do any of you guys on this list know of people who are like the ones cited above who do good work in a shadetree setting? I have a TR4 lined up to purchase that has a dent and a rough panel, so will need a bit of body and paint work. Thanks! Don Scott Calistoga '62 MGA Mk II '73 MGB GT (for sale) '91 Miata BRG -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.13/1642 - Release Date: 08/29/2008 6:12 PM _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc