From sand at frii.com Sun Sep 2 19:26:31 2007 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 19:26:31 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] triumph-coventry works question..... Message-ID: <000801c7edc9$75dd5f40$c4d0e104@stevewbxu6x2qe> any triumph officianotos? was coventry motor works-triumph- a union shop. anybody know??? tx. colorado steve. From gtwincams at pacbell.net Mon Sep 3 08:28:21 2007 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 07:28:21 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Palo Alto next weekend In-Reply-To: <46D6E95A.5060601@sonic.net> References: <31326F2924F6474AB899F2AB6A197910020840EB@mail1.sr.local> <46D6E95A.5060601@sonic.net> Message-ID: <46DC1A05.3090005@pacbell.net> Hello NOBBC, Is anyone planning on attending the Palo Alto British meet next Saturday and Sunday? The drive is on Saturday, the show on Sunday. Here's what was said in another club site: "This will be the last year as Palo Alto is going to tear up the park to work on a holding basin that lies beneath it. After construction the top will be covered with astroturf so no more car shows on top." Another source said a new venue will be found, but this looks like it will be very well attended as a send-off to the old location. The drive starts at 0830-1030 from the show location, and heads over to Half Moon Bay. More info available through a diligent Google search (not much web presence by the organizers), or email rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net. Cheers, Greg Tatarian From home at drummondlaw.com Mon Sep 3 09:34:03 2007 From: home at drummondlaw.com (Dan) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 08:34:03 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Palo Alto next weekend In-Reply-To: <46DC1A05.3090005@pacbell.net> References: <31326F2924F6474AB899F2AB6A197910020840EB@mail1.sr.local><46D6E95A.5060601@sonic.net> <46DC1A05.3090005@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <000801c7ee3f$dbe3d3c0$cd6bc74c@dandebbie> Thanks for the update. I'm hoping to go down Sunday morning for a while. We have out of town guests coming in Sunday afternoon/evening so I will be leaving Palo Also earlier than I would prefer. Dan Daniel A. Drummond Santa Rosa, California -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of gtwincams Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:28 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: [Nobbc] Palo Alto next weekend Hello NOBBC, Is anyone planning on attending the Palo Alto British meet next Saturday and Sunday? The drive is on Saturday, the show on Sunday. Here's what was said in another club site: "This will be the last year as Palo Alto is going to tear up the park to work on a holding basin that lies beneath it. After construction the top will be covered with astroturf so no more car shows on top." Another source said a new venue will be found, but this looks like it will be very well attended as a send-off to the old location. The drive starts at 0830-1030 from the show location, and heads over to Half Moon Bay. More info available through a diligent Google search (not much web presence by the organizers), or email rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net. Cheers, Greg Tatarian _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Mon Sep 3 12:00:09 2007 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:00:09 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Palo Alto next weekend In-Reply-To: <46DC1A05.3090005@pacbell.net> References: <31326F2924F6474AB899F2AB6A197910020840EB@mail1.sr.local> <46D6E95A.5060601@sonic.net> <46DC1A05.3090005@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <46DC4BA9.8070000@sonic.net> I've gone in years past but won't make it this year. It's not as good as it used to be, I still like the Dixon show better. Can't beat Palo Alto for sheer numbers of British cars though and an eclectic variety, worth visiting for sure. If you are on any of the other autox.team.net lists, it's a good place to meet other list members in person. The Saturday ride does interfere with our first Saturday ride this month. This hasn't caused any problems in years past as most of our members do our ride on Saturday, then go to PA on Sunday for the show. Any volunteers to lead our Saturday ride? If you have a favorite local ride, introduce it to the rest of the club! Ron 58 MGA gtwincams wrote: > Hello NOBBC, > Is anyone planning on attending the Palo Alto British meet next Saturday > and Sunday? The drive is on Saturday, the show on Sunday. Here's what > was said in another club site: > "This will be the last year as Palo Alto is going to tear up the park to > work on a holding basin that lies beneath it. After construction the top > will be covered with astroturf so no more car shows on top." > Another source said a new venue will be found, but this looks like it > will be very well attended as a send-off to the old location. > The drive starts at 0830-1030 from the show location, and heads over to > Half Moon Bay. More info available through a diligent Google search (not > much web presence by the organizers), or email rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net. > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian From riprock99 at comcast.net Mon Sep 3 14:08:01 2007 From: riprock99 at comcast.net (Scott Irwin) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 13:08:01 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] triumph-coventry works question..... References: <000801c7edc9$75dd5f40$c4d0e104@stevewbxu6x2qe> Message-ID: <001401c7ee66$21f5cbe0$0400a8c0@budda> My history of Triumph suggests that it was at some point after WW2 but doesn't really say that I remember. Certainly the big new plant in Liverpool was and shut down from labor and economy problems. I'm also not sure of what time your referring to since Triumph started there making bicycles and expanded up to almost WW2 then went into receivership, only to be resurrected by Sir John Black from Standard after the war more or less. Then ther was BMC and Leyland which must have been unionized. Scott Irwin 65 Spitfire ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Lehmann" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 6:26 PM Subject: [Nobbc] triumph-coventry works question..... > any triumph officianotos? > was coventry motor works-triumph- a union shop. > anybody know??? > tx. > colorado steve. > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From michael at dcspg.com Mon Sep 3 14:14:57 2007 From: michael at dcspg.com (michael) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 13:14:57 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Palo Alto next weekend In-Reply-To: <46DC4BA9.8070000@sonic.net> References: <31326F2924F6474AB899F2AB6A197910020840EB@mail1.sr.local><46D6E95A.5060601@sonic.net> <46DC1A05.3090005@pacbell.net> <46DC4BA9.8070000@sonic.net> Message-ID: <169901c7ee67$198fdfd0$e610f00a@T770> Ron, when is or was Dixon? thanks -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 11:00 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Palo Alto next weekend I've gone in years past but won't make it this year. It's not as good as it used to be, I still like the Dixon show better. Can't beat Palo Alto for sheer numbers of British cars though and an eclectic variety, worth visiting for sure. If you are on any of the other autox.team.net lists, it's a good place to meet other list members in person. The Saturday ride does interfere with our first Saturday ride this month. This hasn't caused any problems in years past as most of our members do our ride on Saturday, then go to PA on Sunday for the show. Any volunteers to lead our Saturday ride? If you have a favorite local ride, introduce it to the rest of the club! Ron 58 MGA gtwincams wrote: > Hello NOBBC, > Is anyone planning on attending the Palo Alto British meet next Saturday > and Sunday? The drive is on Saturday, the show on Sunday. Here's what > was said in another club site: > "This will be the last year as Palo Alto is going to tear up the park to > work on a holding basin that lies beneath it. After construction the top > will be covered with astroturf so no more car shows on top." > Another source said a new venue will be found, but this looks like it > will be very well attended as a send-off to the old location. > The drive starts at 0830-1030 from the show location, and heads over to > Half Moon Bay. More info available through a diligent Google search (not > much web presence by the organizers), or email rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net. > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From home at drummondlaw.com Mon Sep 3 14:18:05 2007 From: home at drummondlaw.com (Dan) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 13:18:05 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Palo Alto next weekend In-Reply-To: <169901c7ee67$198fdfd0$e610f00a@T770> References: <31326F2924F6474AB899F2AB6A197910020840EB@mail1.sr.local><46D6E95A.5060601@sonic.net><46DC1A05.3090005@pacbell.net> <46DC4BA9.8070000@sonic.net> <169901c7ee67$198fdfd0$e610f00a@T770> Message-ID: <000001c7ee67$89c9e2a0$cd6bc74c@dandebbie> It was May 20. Maybe next year. :) Dan Daniel A. Drummond Santa Rosa, California -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of michael Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 1:15 PM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Palo Alto next weekend Ron, when is or was Dixon? thanks -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 11:00 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Palo Alto next weekend I've gone in years past but won't make it this year. It's not as good as it used to be, I still like the Dixon show better. Can't beat Palo Alto for sheer numbers of British cars though and an eclectic variety, worth visiting for sure. If you are on any of the other autox.team.net lists, it's a good place to meet other list members in person. The Saturday ride does interfere with our first Saturday ride this month. This hasn't caused any problems in years past as most of our members do our ride on Saturday, then go to PA on Sunday for the show. Any volunteers to lead our Saturday ride? If you have a favorite local ride, introduce it to the rest of the club! Ron 58 MGA gtwincams wrote: > Hello NOBBC, > Is anyone planning on attending the Palo Alto British meet next Saturday > and Sunday? The drive is on Saturday, the show on Sunday. Here's what > was said in another club site: > "This will be the last year as Palo Alto is going to tear up the park to > work on a holding basin that lies beneath it. After construction the top > will be covered with astroturf so no more car shows on top." > Another source said a new venue will be found, but this looks like it > will be very well attended as a send-off to the old location. > The drive starts at 0830-1030 from the show location, and heads over to > Half Moon Bay. More info available through a diligent Google search (not > much web presence by the organizers), or email rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net. > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sand at frii.com Mon Sep 3 21:07:20 2007 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:07:20 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] palo alto. Message-ID: <001101c7eea0$b63cbb80$a8d0e104@stevewbxu6x2qe> so... the bay area earth first, save the whales,clan,s area going to restore wetlands in palo alto?-cool! palo alto first-dixon later. i get it, everybody needs a sasalito houseboat and live as one with the fish. oh,god i miss cali. i say better drop the g.g.bridge,the pilings are interfearing w/the sturgions. pull up the berkley pier-the shrimps are being starved! sink the mothball fleet for stripped bass habbitat. (recycleing at it,s best) best yet,dbl. the flight gates at s.f.o. at a cost of 2 billon before runway expanchion is approved-yea cali is GREAT!!!!!!!!!! (if brains were dynomite)(yea i was on that job-have to laff-cant fill in more bay wetlands) yea build it but dont use it-love it!!!) b.t.w.- as of oct 4,2007- everybody in cali not driving a toyota prius or honda prelude hybred will be forced to surrender there drives licence. roadside checks will be the law. exucutive order by the folks in sacto. (and macy,s dept. stores) motorcycles that are not mopeds must be converted to moped by oct-7-07 or be scrapped for your 200 buck recycle fee. all shoes w/o hemp souls can be turned in at goodyear rubber. shoes w/o hemp smokeable souls will be considered a ecological nucence and must be collected at once!. rubber raft,s and canoes will be collected at salvation army on yolanda drive, santa rosa ca. for shipment to japan to produce hybread cars. the cali. + u.s. gov. will pay a 50 dollar credit-(not cash) to your purchase of a honda or toyota. b.t.w. old brit iron will not make it into american musiums. better sell it off while you can redeam enuff for a can of beans- remimber to recycle the can!!!!!!! aint america great!!!!!!!!! From sand at frii.com Mon Sep 3 21:19:27 2007 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:19:27 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] dixon sinking-serra snowpack. Message-ID: <001e01c7eea2$6748b7c0$a8d0e104@stevewbxu6x2qe> due to the resoration project in palo alto and illeagle dreadging the cali centrell valley is being sucked flat and dixon is sinking!!!!!!!! the serra nevada snowpack will soon be in sepastopole!!!! better call al gore!!!! From don at napanet.net Mon Sep 3 21:29:58 2007 From: don at napanet.net (don) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:29:58 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] palo alto. In-Reply-To: <001101c7eea0$b63cbb80$a8d0e104@stevewbxu6x2qe> References: <001101c7eea0$b63cbb80$a8d0e104@stevewbxu6x2qe> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.1.20070903202741.02e80380@pop.napanet.net> I usually enjoy reading the postings, but this guy's comments are innappropriate. What does this stuff have to do with British cars? At 08:07 PM 09/03/2007, you wrote: >so... the bay area earth first, save the whales,clan,s area going to restore >wetlands in palo alto?-cool! >palo alto first-dixon later. >i get it, everybody needs a sasalito houseboat and live as one with the fish. >oh,god i miss cali. > >i say better drop the g.g.bridge,the pilings are interfearing w/the >sturgions. > >pull up the berkley pier-the shrimps are being starved! > >sink the mothball fleet for stripped bass habbitat. >(recycleing at it,s best) > >best yet,dbl. the flight gates at s.f.o. at a cost of 2 billon before runway >expanchion is approved-yea cali is GREAT!!!!!!!!!! >(if brains were dynomite)(yea i was on that job-have to laff-cant fill in more >bay wetlands) >yea build it but dont use it-love it!!!) > >b.t.w.- >as of oct 4,2007- >everybody in cali not driving a toyota prius or honda prelude hybred will be >forced to surrender there drives licence. >roadside checks will be the law. >exucutive order by the folks in sacto. >(and macy,s dept. stores) >motorcycles that are not mopeds must be converted to moped by oct-7-07 or be >scrapped for your 200 buck recycle fee. >all shoes w/o hemp souls can be turned in at goodyear rubber. >shoes w/o hemp smokeable souls will be considered a ecological nucence and >must be collected at once!. >rubber raft,s and canoes will be collected at salvation army on yolanda drive, >santa rosa ca. for shipment to japan to produce hybread cars. >the cali. + u.s. gov. will pay a 50 dollar credit-(not cash) to your purchase >of a honda or toyota. >b.t.w. old brit iron will not make it into american musiums. >better sell it off while you can redeam enuff for a can of beans- >remimber to recycle the can!!!!!!! >aint america great!!!!!!!!! >_______________________________________________ >Nobbc mailing list >Nobbc at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.3/986 - Release Date: 09/03/2007 >9:31 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.3/986 - Release Date: 09/03/2007 9:31 AM From lovelarge at gmail.com Mon Sep 3 22:21:21 2007 From: lovelarge at gmail.com (Charles English) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:21:21 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] dixon sinking-serra snowpack. In-Reply-To: <001e01c7eea2$6748b7c0$a8d0e104@stevewbxu6x2qe> References: <001e01c7eea2$6748b7c0$a8d0e104@stevewbxu6x2qe> Message-ID: <6fd901ba0709032121o6c5367c5ge5e3b2783da0f758@mail.gmail.com> Hi Steve, My name is Charles and I drive a 58 mga. Haven't made it out to a NOBBC event as I am expecting my first child any day now. It sounds like you are very opinionated about environmental issues. It may be sarcasm, but I thought I would try to connect. The environment is what forced me out of LA and into Sonoma Co. I am working on a Hydrogen On Demand system to supplement the dino fuel in the MG. Just wondering if you know of anyone doing that around here. I do love my MGA after spending 5 years on the frame off resto, but I notice I feel much less guilty driving my Prius. So the HOD system is my solution to have the best of both worlds. A (terrible) photo of my car is attached. Perhaps after I have a bit more free time, the group can do a garage visit of my project. I have been talking with Ron about that. Cheers, Charles On 9/3/07, Steve Lehmann wrote: > > due to the resoration project in palo alto and illeagle dreadging the cali > centrell valley is being sucked flat and dixon is sinking!!!!!!!! > the serra nevada snowpack will soon be in sepastopole!!!! > better call al gore!!!! > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Picture 013.jpg] From joemulqueen at yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 23:44:50 2007 From: joemulqueen at yahoo.com (joe mulqueen) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] Palo Alto next weekend In-Reply-To: <46DC4BA9.8070000@sonic.net> Message-ID: <457513.45431.qm@web82202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'll be going but won't get to bring my MGA due to family "tagging along". So instead, I'll be there in a '67 Landrover 109 SW or maybe our '82 Jaguar XJ6. JoeM Santa Clara (formerly from Cotati!) --- Ron Engelhardt wrote: > I've gone in years past but won't make it this year. > It's not as good as > it used to be, I still like the Dixon show better. > Can't beat Palo Alto > for sheer numbers of British cars though and an > eclectic variety, worth > visiting for sure. If you are on any of the other > autox.team.net lists, > it's a good place to meet other list members in > person. > > The Saturday ride does interfere with our first > Saturday ride this > month. This hasn't caused any problems in years past > as most of our > members do our ride on Saturday, then go to PA on > Sunday for the show. > > Any volunteers to lead our Saturday ride? If you > have a favorite local > ride, introduce it to the rest of the club! > > Ron > 58 MGA > > gtwincams wrote: > > > Hello NOBBC, > > Is anyone planning on attending the Palo Alto > British meet next Saturday > > and Sunday? The drive is on Saturday, the show on > Sunday. Here's what > > was said in another club site: > > "This will be the last year as Palo Alto is going > to tear up the park to > > work on a holding basin that lies beneath it. > After construction the top > > will be covered with astroturf so no more car > shows on top." > > Another source said a new venue will be found, but > this looks like it > > will be very well attended as a send-off to the > old location. > > The drive starts at 0830-1030 from the show > location, and heads over to > > Half Moon Bay. More info available through a > diligent Google search (not > > much web presence by the organizers), or email > rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net. > > Cheers, > > Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET Tue Sep 4 09:03:36 2007 From: FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET (JOHN KENNER) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:03:36 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] palo alto. In-Reply-To: <001101c7eea0$b63cbb80$a8d0e104@stevewbxu6x2qe> Message-ID: <20070904150357.1BBE4187A40@autox.team.net> BETTER LEARN TO USE SPELL CHECK -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Lehmann Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 8:07 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Cc: idkgary at netzero.net; didun64 at yahoo.com; sand at frii.net Subject: [Nobbc] palo alto. so... the bay area earth first, save the whales,clan,s area going to restore wetlands in palo alto?-cool! palo alto first-dixon later. i get it, everybody needs a sasalito houseboat and live as one with the fish. oh,god i miss cali. i say better drop the g.g.bridge,the pilings are interfearing w/the sturgions. pull up the berkley pier-the shrimps are being starved! sink the mothball fleet for stripped bass habbitat. (recycleing at it,s best) best yet,dbl. the flight gates at s.f.o. at a cost of 2 billon before runway expanchion is approved-yea cali is GREAT!!!!!!!!!! (if brains were dynomite)(yea i was on that job-have to laff-cant fill in more bay wetlands) yea build it but dont use it-love it!!!) b.t.w.- as of oct 4,2007- everybody in cali not driving a toyota prius or honda prelude hybred will be forced to surrender there drives licence. roadside checks will be the law. exucutive order by the folks in sacto. (and macy,s dept. stores) motorcycles that are not mopeds must be converted to moped by oct-7-07 or be scrapped for your 200 buck recycle fee. all shoes w/o hemp souls can be turned in at goodyear rubber. shoes w/o hemp smokeable souls will be considered a ecological nucence and must be collected at once!. rubber raft,s and canoes will be collected at salvation army on yolanda drive, santa rosa ca. for shipment to japan to produce hybread cars. the cali. + u.s. gov. will pay a 50 dollar credit-(not cash) to your purchase of a honda or toyota. b.t.w. old brit iron will not make it into american musiums. better sell it off while you can redeam enuff for a can of beans- remimber to recycle the can!!!!!!! aint america great!!!!!!!!! _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at pacbell.net Tue Sep 4 09:44:41 2007 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 08:44:41 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Palo Alto next weekend In-Reply-To: <46DC4BA9.8070000@sonic.net> References: <31326F2924F6474AB899F2AB6A197910020840EB@mail1.sr.local> <46D6E95A.5060601@sonic.net> <46DC1A05.3090005@pacbell.net> <46DC4BA9.8070000@sonic.net> Message-ID: <46DD7D69.8090208@pacbell.net> Hi Ron and group, Interesting, Ron, that you feel the Palo Alto show isn't as good as before - it was actually better attended by a wider range of cars than Dixon the last two years. I might also be biased - the GGLC had 50 Lotuses there, and we're going for the coveted club participation award this year. I encourage anyone who hasn't been to attend - these shows are somewhat subjective, based on your preferences, such as more sellers, closer to home, friendlier judging, etc. Go with a Brit car and show it, park it, or just take the family saloon. Don't think I'll do the Palo Alto drive on Saturday - it would require staying somewhere in the area until Sunday's concourse. Should be nice weekend up here for a club drive, then follow it on Sunday in Palo Alto. Cheers, Greg Tatarian Ron Engelhardt wrote: > I've gone in years past but won't make it this year. It's not as good as > it used to be, I still like the Dixon show better. Can't beat Palo Alto > for sheer numbers of British cars though and an eclectic variety, worth > visiting for sure. If you are on any of the other autox.team.net lists, > it's a good place to meet other list members in person. > > The Saturday ride does interfere with our first Saturday ride this > month. This hasn't caused any problems in years past as most of our > members do our ride on Saturday, then go to PA on Sunday for the show. > > Any volunteers to lead our Saturday ride? If you have a favorite local > ride, introduce it to the rest of the club! > > Ron > 58 MGA From nobbc at sonic.net Tue Sep 4 10:21:02 2007 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:21:02 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Palo Alto next weekend In-Reply-To: <46DD7D69.8090208@pacbell.net> References: <31326F2924F6474AB899F2AB6A197910020840EB@mail1.sr.local> <46D6E95A.5060601@sonic.net> <46DC1A05.3090005@pacbell.net> <46DC4BA9.8070000@sonic.net> <46DD7D69.8090208@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <46DD85EE.1080507@sonic.net> Well, in the past, the Palo Alto show used to have a great vendors area and I was able to buy lots of needed parts. This was cut out of the show proper several years ago causing me to like the Dixon show better. Don't get me wrong, I still think the PA show is great and still well worth visiting just not as nice as it was. It does have the largest number and variety of British cars available in our "local" area. I have seen some beautiful and unique cars there, the only place some of them can be seen! It is a bit far to drive two days in a row so to go on the Saturday drive and then the Sunday show almost requires a place to stay down there. In the past, most of our members have just gone for the show on Sunday and driven in our ride on Saturday. Ron 58 MGA gtwincams wrote: > Hi Ron and group, > Interesting, Ron, that you feel the Palo Alto show isn't as good as > before - it was actually better attended by a wider range of cars than > Dixon the last two years. I might also be biased - the GGLC had 50 > Lotuses there, and we're going for the coveted club participation award > this year. I encourage anyone who hasn't been to attend - these shows > are somewhat subjective, based on your preferences, such as more > sellers, closer to home, friendlier judging, etc. Go with a Brit car and > show it, park it, or just take the family saloon. > Don't think I'll do the Palo Alto drive on Saturday - it would require > staying somewhere in the area until Sunday's concourse. Should be nice > weekend up here for a club drive, then follow it on Sunday in Palo Alto. > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian From wbain at sonic.net Tue Sep 4 12:19:18 2007 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 11:19:18 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Palo Alto next weekend In-Reply-To: <457513.45431.qm@web82202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <59DEA6B4-5B13-11DC-9963-000393817116@sonic.net> I'm going to PA. Went to Dixon. Both are great in their own ways. Dixon had a very poor showing of vendors this year. Not sure why. As for PA, last year we had six Morgan three-wheelers. That's a pretty good turnout for those cars (If you want to call them that). We used to get enough four wheelers to set records, but recently that doesn't seem to be the case. At both you will see some very unusual cars that you will probably not see anywhere else. I hope we don't lose either of them. I usually only go for the Sunday show. Otherwise it would require an overnighter. Morgan seems to be experiencing a problem and probably won't be going on either NOBBC run or to PA. The latter I'm going to with a friend whose wife doesn't want to go (Imagine that). His car is one of those Bill Fink (Morgan Dealer) converted +8's with a Corvette LS-2 driveline, and lots of other brake, suspension modifications. Now if we can just stay inside the sound barrier...... Wheeee!!!!! Wendell 53 Jaguar C-Type..... Just kidding. On Monday, September 3, 2007, at 10:44 PM, joe mulqueen wrote: > I'll be going but won't get to bring my MGA due to > family "tagging along". So instead, I'll be there in > a '67 Landrover 109 SW or maybe our '82 Jaguar XJ6. > JoeM > Santa Clara > (formerly from Cotati!) > > --- Ron Engelhardt wrote: > >> I've gone in years past but won't make it this year. >> It's not as good as >> it used to be, I still like the Dixon show better. >> Can't beat Palo Alto >> for sheer numbers of British cars though and an >> eclectic variety, worth >> visiting for sure. If you are on any of the other >> autox.team.net lists, >> it's a good place to meet other list members in >> person. >> >> The Saturday ride does interfere with our first >> Saturday ride this >> month. This hasn't caused any problems in years past >> as most of our >> members do our ride on Saturday, then go to PA on >> Sunday for the show. >> >> Any volunteers to lead our Saturday ride? If you >> have a favorite local >> ride, introduce it to the rest of the club! >> >> Ron >> 58 MGA >> >> gtwincams wrote: >> >>> Hello NOBBC, >>> Is anyone planning on attending the Palo Alto >> British meet next Saturday >>> and Sunday? The drive is on Saturday, the show on >> Sunday. Here's what >>> was said in another club site: >>> "This will be the last year as Palo Alto is going >> to tear up the park to >>> work on a holding basin that lies beneath it. >> After construction the top >>> will be covered with astroturf so no more car >> shows on top." >>> Another source said a new venue will be found, but >> this looks like it >>> will be very well attended as a send-off to the >> old location. >>> The drive starts at 0830-1030 from the show >> location, and heads over to >>> Half Moon Bay. More info available through a >> diligent Google search (not >>> much web presence by the organizers), or email >> rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net. >>> Cheers, >>> Greg Tatarian >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From home at drummondlaw.com Tue Sep 4 12:56:32 2007 From: home at drummondlaw.com (Dan) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 11:56:32 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Palo Alto next weekend In-Reply-To: <46DD7D69.8090208@pacbell.net> References: <31326F2924F6474AB899F2AB6A197910020840EB@mail1.sr.local><46D6E95A.5060601@sonic.net> <46DC1A05.3090005@pacbell.net><46DC4BA9.8070000@sonic.net> <46DD7D69.8090208@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <000001c7ef25$4f8cbb80$1ba4244b@dandebbie> Where in Palo Alto is the show? Daniel A. Drummond Santa Rosa, California -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of gtwincams Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 8:45 AM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Palo Alto next weekend Hi Ron and group, Interesting, Ron, that you feel the Palo Alto show isn't as good as before - it was actually better attended by a wider range of cars than Dixon the last two years. I might also be biased - the GGLC had 50 Lotuses there, and we're going for the coveted club participation award this year. I encourage anyone who hasn't been to attend - these shows are somewhat subjective, based on your preferences, such as more sellers, closer to home, friendlier judging, etc. Go with a Brit car and show it, park it, or just take the family saloon. Don't think I'll do the Palo Alto drive on Saturday - it would require staying somewhere in the area until Sunday's concourse. Should be nice weekend up here for a club drive, then follow it on Sunday in Palo Alto. Cheers, Greg Tatarian Ron Engelhardt wrote: > I've gone in years past but won't make it this year. It's not as good as > it used to be, I still like the Dixon show better. Can't beat Palo Alto > for sheer numbers of British cars though and an eclectic variety, worth > visiting for sure. If you are on any of the other autox.team.net lists, > it's a good place to meet other list members in person. > > The Saturday ride does interfere with our first Saturday ride this > month. This hasn't caused any problems in years past as most of our > members do our ride on Saturday, then go to PA on Sunday for the show. > > Any volunteers to lead our Saturday ride? If you have a favorite local > ride, introduce it to the rest of the club! > > Ron > 58 MGA _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From zarco at sonic.net Tue Sep 4 12:59:34 2007 From: zarco at sonic.net (Steve) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 11:59:34 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Palo Alto....I'll be there! Message-ID: <001401c7ef25$bcddf640$876194d1@starwars> Dixon or Palo Alto....which is best? They're both great!!! The parts swap at Dixon is a big deal for me. I maintain a list of needed parts (2 full pages). I like Palo Alto because there tends to be a wider range of cars (but not by much). Has anyone seen the XKE the guy made a custom body for? How about the Bugeye with the big American V-8? Awesome! Wish we had more shows within driving distance... Steve A-H 100-6 & 3000 mkIII, Jensen-Healey, side curtain Midget, MG-TD, Bugeye, MGB-GT , TR-4A, Jag XJS and a few others (non-Brit) From mowog at sonic.net Tue Sep 4 13:08:10 2007 From: mowog at sonic.net (Rod Williams) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:08:10 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Palo Alto next weekend In-Reply-To: <000001c7ef25$4f8cbb80$1ba4244b@dandebbie> Message-ID: > Where in Palo Alto is the show? In Palo Alto on El Camino exactly across the street from the Stanford Shopping Center. The fee for bringing a car onto the field is, I think $20 or $25. You get a small gifty-thingie and the fee goes toward running the show each year. -- Rod Williams Petaluma, California 1967 MGB From apexbrit at msn.com Tue Sep 4 14:56:01 2007 From: apexbrit at msn.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:56:01 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Brit Cars Message-ID: I'm new to this group, but not new to Brit cars. Bought my first one, 1949 TC, in 1953; today I am working to get my 1962 Mk2 on the road and maybe the Series III Sunbeam after that. I've owned a few others: AH 100-4 I drove from Quantico,VA to Mill Valley in 1956; MGA; 1958 Mog+4 (totaled it on Hwy 1 at the Fireside) 1959 Mog +4 (went SCCA racing with it) ;1954 Flat Rad Mog : TR-3 (raced this too); Lotus 22 (3rd in Class B San Fran Region SCCA, 5th national runoffs at Riverside); 1969 Europa(recently sold). I owned and operated Apex British Motors on East Todd in Santa Rosa for many years and became known as one who could eventually fix problems with old Jags, Mogs, Bently, Rolls, Lotus, even an Allard. I think Steve came by to visit a few times and told me about his idea for a "club." At the time a few customers and "roadies" were doing "Dawn Patrols" out of my shop - a once a month run similar to the Sunday Moring Ride. After a couple of years retirement I'm attacking the Mk2 with renewed vigor so as to soon join you all on your runs and fun. I am taking a hiatus from rebuilding suspension, calipers, and am now working on sadly neglected wood work. I purchased the car from a Cazadero resident who let it get soggy inside under redwood for 3 years. Yuch; it will never be a show quality car, just a good runner. See ya soon. Cant make PA this year and have never been to the Dixon event, althoug I am told it is excellent. I think the Lotus club is revving up to take the participation award again at PA! Rob Jackson Mk2 Jag Series 3 Sunbeam From nobbc at sonic.net Tue Sep 4 15:20:39 2007 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:20:39 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Brit Cars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46DDCC27.9060202@sonic.net> Hi Robin and welcome. I remember meeting you at the start of one of our rides recently. I hope you can get that Mk2 on the road soon. My car needs the company of another MGA! There are a half dozen or so in the club that rarely make an appearance. Ron 58 MGA Robin Jackson wrote: > I'm new to this group, but not new to Brit cars. Bought my first one, 1949 TC, > in 1953; today I am working to get my 1962 Mk2 on the road and maybe the > Series III Sunbeam after that. > > I've owned a few others: AH 100-4 I drove > from Quantico,VA to Mill Valley in 1956; MGA; 1958 Mog+4 (totaled it on Hwy 1 > at the Fireside) 1959 Mog +4 (went SCCA racing with it) ;1954 Flat Rad Mog : > TR-3 (raced this too); Lotus 22 (3rd in Class B San Fran Region SCCA, 5th > national runoffs at Riverside); 1969 Europa(recently sold). > > I owned and > operated Apex British Motors on East Todd in Santa Rosa for many years and > became known as one who could eventually fix problems with old Jags, Mogs, > Bently, Rolls, Lotus, even an Allard. > > I think Steve came by to visit a few > times and told me about his idea for a "club." At the time a few customers and > "roadies" were doing "Dawn Patrols" out of my shop - a once a month run > similar to the Sunday Moring Ride. > > After a couple of years retirement I'm > attacking the Mk2 with renewed vigor so as to soon join you all on your runs > and fun. I am taking a hiatus from rebuilding suspension, calipers, and am now > working on sadly neglected wood work. I purchased the car from a Cazadero > resident who let it get soggy inside under redwood for 3 years. Yuch; it will > never be a show quality car, just a good runner. > > See ya soon. Cant make PA > this year and have never been to the Dixon event, althoug I am told it is > excellent. I think the Lotus club is revving up to take the participation > award again at PA! > > Rob Jackson > Mk2 Jag > Series 3 Sunbeam > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From home at drummondlaw.com Tue Sep 4 15:19:52 2007 From: home at drummondlaw.com (Dan) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:19:52 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Palo Alto next weekend In-Reply-To: References: <000001c7ef25$4f8cbb80$1ba4244b@dandebbie> Message-ID: <000001c7ef39$55e4a290$1ba4244b@dandebbie> Great. Thanks. Dan Daniel A. Drummond Santa Rosa, California -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rod Williams Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 12:08 PM To: NOBBC MGs Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Palo Alto next weekend > Where in Palo Alto is the show? In Palo Alto on El Camino exactly across the street from the Stanford Shopping Center. The fee for bringing a car onto the field is, I think $20 or $25. You get a small gifty-thingie and the fee goes toward running the show each year. -- Rod Williams Petaluma, California 1967 MGB _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From apexbrit at msn.com Tue Sep 4 15:35:48 2007 From: apexbrit at msn.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:35:48 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Brit Cars References: <46DDCC27.9060202@sonic.net> Message-ID: Hi Ron - thanks for the welcome. My Mk2 is actually of the Jaguar variety, and at times I wish it were of the MG variety. Cheers ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Engelhardt To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Brit Cars Hi Robin and welcome. I remember meeting you at the start of one of our rides recently. I hope you can get that Mk2 on the road soon. My car needs the company of another MGA! There are a half dozen or so in the club that rarely make an appearance. Ron 58 MGA Robin Jackson wrote: > I'm new to this group, but not new to Brit cars. Bought my first one, 1949 TC, > in 1953; today I am working to get my 1962 Mk2 on the road and maybe the > Series III Sunbeam after that. > > I've owned a few others: AH 100-4 I drove > from Quantico,VA to Mill Valley in 1956; MGA; 1958 Mog+4 (totaled it on Hwy 1 > at the Fireside) 1959 Mog +4 (went SCCA racing with it) ;1954 Flat Rad Mog : > TR-3 (raced this too); Lotus 22 (3rd in Class B San Fran Region SCCA, 5th > national runoffs at Riverside); 1969 Europa(recently sold). > > I owned and > operated Apex British Motors on East Todd in Santa Rosa for many years and > became known as one who could eventually fix problems with old Jags, Mogs, > Bently, Rolls, Lotus, even an Allard. > > I think Steve came by to visit a few > times and told me about his idea for a "club." At the time a few customers and > "roadies" were doing "Dawn Patrols" out of my shop - a once a month run > similar to the Sunday Moring Ride. > > After a couple of years retirement I'm > attacking the Mk2 with renewed vigor so as to soon join you all on your runs > and fun. I am taking a hiatus from rebuilding suspension, calipers, and am now > working on sadly neglected wood work. I purchased the car from a Cazadero > resident who let it get soggy inside under redwood for 3 years. Yuch; it will > never be a show quality car, just a good runner. > > See ya soon. Cant make PA > this year and have never been to the Dixon event, althoug I am told it is > excellent. I think the Lotus club is revving up to take the participation > award again at PA! > > Rob Jackson > Mk2 Jag > Series 3 Sunbeam > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sand at frii.com Tue Sep 4 17:58:36 2007 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:58:36 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] Brit Cars-robin-apex. References: Message-ID: <000c01c7ef4f$82f222b0$cbfae304@stevewbxu6x2qe> YES ROB reminber you well!!! your shop was next to a muffler shop and yes i was by a few times to hustle the nobbc. had (and still do) a red tr4a- yes that was in the fourmulative period. good to hear from you! as you can see, ron, myself,and deano sucsseeded. yes i do remimember you robin. you had the valve train in pices on a 6 cyl jag last time i was by. steve-colorado. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Jackson" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 2:56 PM Subject: [Nobbc] Brit Cars > I'm new to this group, but not new to Brit cars. Bought my first one, 1949 > TC, > in 1953; today I am working to get my 1962 Mk2 on the road and maybe the > Series III Sunbeam after that. > > I've owned a few others: AH 100-4 I drove > from Quantico,VA to Mill Valley in 1956; MGA; 1958 Mog+4 (totaled it on > Hwy 1 > at the Fireside) 1959 Mog +4 (went SCCA racing with it) ;1954 Flat Rad Mog > : > TR-3 (raced this too); Lotus 22 (3rd in Class B San Fran Region SCCA, 5th > national runoffs at Riverside); 1969 Europa(recently sold). > > I owned and > operated Apex British Motors on East Todd in Santa Rosa for many years and > became known as one who could eventually fix problems with old Jags, Mogs, > Bently, Rolls, Lotus, even an Allard. > > I think Steve came by to visit a few > times and told me about his idea for a "club." At the time a few customers > and > "roadies" were doing "Dawn Patrols" out of my shop - a once a month run > similar to the Sunday Moring Ride. > > After a couple of years retirement I'm > attacking the Mk2 with renewed vigor so as to soon join you all on your > runs > and fun. I am taking a hiatus from rebuilding suspension, calipers, and am > now > working on sadly neglected wood work. I purchased the car from a Cazadero > resident who let it get soggy inside under redwood for 3 years. Yuch; it > will > never be a show quality car, just a good runner. > > See ya soon. Cant make PA > this year and have never been to the Dixon event, althoug I am told it is > excellent. I think the Lotus club is revving up to take the participation > award again at PA! > > Rob Jackson > Mk2 Jag > Series 3 Sunbeam > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sand at frii.com Tue Sep 4 18:28:15 2007 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:28:15 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] a word from steve-dixon-palo alto.-list Message-ID: <003001c7ef53$a7278ea0$cbfae304@stevewbxu6x2qe> i got word this would be last palo alto show due to a land restoration project. sorry so many of you folks dont have any humor. perhaps to me is that the club has far more people now than it did a few years ago and most folks in it i dont know now. so for the sake of nobbc and to detour any further bleeding (dont want to flood any rivers) and sufferings from those so badley injured-go ahead and just axe me from the list. steve lehmann-co founder nobbc. From mowog at sonic.net Tue Sep 4 19:13:22 2007 From: mowog at sonic.net (Rod Williams) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:13:22 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] a word from steve-dixon-palo alto.-list In-Reply-To: <003001c7ef53$a7278ea0$cbfae304@stevewbxu6x2qe> Message-ID: > i got word this would be last palo alto show due to a land restoration > project. The word from Rick Feibusch, who organizes the show, is that the city of Palo Alto is digging up the whole park to build a water reservoir in that location. The catch is that after the whole thing is covered up again they will re-build the playing fields but will have to use artificial turf instead of real dirt and grass. And plastic grass can't have oil and gas dripping on it. So, obviously, no British cars. (is it too late to join the German car club??). Rick is looking for another suitable location to continue what has been one of the most enjoyable Bay Area gatherings of British car enthusiasts for many years now. Lets hope he is successful. And lets hope I get the transmission fixed on my 'B before it starts to rain! -- Rod Williams Petaluma, California 1967 MGB From jarbunic at pacbell.net Tue Sep 4 20:45:58 2007 From: jarbunic at pacbell.net (Joe Arbunic) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:45:58 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] a word from steve-dixon-palo alto.-list In-Reply-To: <003001c7ef53$a7278ea0$cbfae304@stevewbxu6x2qe> References: <003001c7ef53$a7278ea0$cbfae304@stevewbxu6x2qe> Message-ID: <46DE1866.4050002@pacbell.net> Steve, Those of us who know you understand and appreciate the humor. As far as axing you from list... No way! Our engines don't run without a spark plug and that is what you are, and have been since day one... Joe Arbunic 72 MGB Steve Lehmann wrote: > i got word this would be last palo alto show due to a land restoration > project. > > sorry so many of you folks dont have any humor. > > perhaps to me is that the club has far more people now than it did a few years > ago and most folks in it i dont know now. > > so for the sake of nobbc and to detour any further bleeding (dont want to > flood any rivers) and sufferings from those so badley injured-go ahead and > just axe me from the list. > steve lehmann-co founder nobbc. > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From apexbrit at msn.com Tue Sep 4 20:55:09 2007 From: apexbrit at msn.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:55:09 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Brit Cars-robin-apex. References: <000c01c7ef4f$82f222b0$cbfae304@stevewbxu6x2qe> Message-ID: Steve - good to meet up again and I do remember the TR4A - a daily driver, it seemed; and these old Brits like to be driven. Yeah, Jag heads were a specialty. Was doing my fair share of Jag work in those days, along with a flock of MGB, and much good work setting up TR-6's and Jensen Healeys for smog - then re-tuning to run decently! Anyway, Brit cars are still fun and am happy to meet up with fellow enthusiasts, once again. I also belong to ESCA which is mainly auto Xing now with a few ralleys and tours thrown in. Their membership is huge ( mostly Asian cars) because of the racing (as they call it). I am inactive since I sold the Z autocrosser. In my previous bit I neglected to include my ownership of 4 liquid suspension MG/BMC's whatever they were called - also fun to drive. Also an uncountable number of Cortinas (maybe 7 or eight). Both sons learned to drive in them. I drove the Tom Rust/ Bob Winkelmann Anglia in the Crow's Landing Trans Am Sedan Race back in 1960 something. Yikes - spent all my time keeping out of the way of Mustangs and Camaros ; must have been young and stupid! Still probably stupid. And so it goes, mates... Just tell me to shut up when I go on so much. Cheers, Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Lehmann To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Brit Cars-robin-apex. YES ROB reminber you well!!! your shop was next to a muffler shop and yes i was by a few times to hustle the nobbc. had (and still do) a red tr4a- yes that was in the fourmulative period. good to hear from you! as you can see, ron, myself,and deano sucsseeded. yes i do remimember you robin. you had the valve train in pices on a 6 cyl jag last time i was by. steve-colorado. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Jackson" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 2:56 PM Subject: [Nobbc] Brit Cars > I'm new to this group, but not new to Brit cars. Bought my first one, 1949 > TC, > in 1953; today I am working to get my 1962 Mk2 on the road and maybe the > Series III Sunbeam after that. > > I've owned a few others: AH 100-4 I drove > from Quantico,VA to Mill Valley in 1956; MGA; 1958 Mog+4 (totaled it on > Hwy 1 > at the Fireside) 1959 Mog +4 (went SCCA racing with it) ;1954 Flat Rad Mog > : > TR-3 (raced this too); Lotus 22 (3rd in Class B San Fran Region SCCA, 5th > national runoffs at Riverside); 1969 Europa(recently sold). > > I owned and > operated Apex British Motors on East Todd in Santa Rosa for many years and > became known as one who could eventually fix problems with old Jags, Mogs, > Bently, Rolls, Lotus, even an Allard. > > I think Steve came by to visit a few > times and told me about his idea for a "club." At the time a few customers > and > "roadies" were doing "Dawn Patrols" out of my shop - a once a month run > similar to the Sunday Moring Ride. > > After a couple of years retirement I'm > attacking the Mk2 with renewed vigor so as to soon join you all on your > runs > and fun. I am taking a hiatus from rebuilding suspension, calipers, and am > now > working on sadly neglected wood work. I purchased the car from a Cazadero > resident who let it get soggy inside under redwood for 3 years. Yuch; it > will > never be a show quality car, just a good runner. > > See ya soon. Cant make PA > this year and have never been to the Dixon event, althoug I am told it is > excellent. I think the Lotus club is revving up to take the participation > award again at PA! > > Rob Jackson > Mk2 Jag > Series 3 Sunbeam > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From michael at dcspg.com Tue Sep 4 21:14:24 2007 From: michael at dcspg.com (michael) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:14:24 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] a word from steve-dixon-palo alto.-list In-Reply-To: <46DE1866.4050002@pacbell.net> References: <003001c7ef53$a7278ea0$cbfae304@stevewbxu6x2qe> <46DE1866.4050002@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <040001c7ef6a$dc4db340$64a8a8c0@T770> Steve, I am not sure if I know you but I appreciate your humor (politics aside) and additionally appreciate yours (and others) that keep nobbc going. thanks Michael 62 healey 54 doretti -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Arbunic Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 7:46 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] a word from steve-dixon-palo alto.-list Steve, Those of us who know you understand and appreciate the humor. As far as axing you from list... No way! Our engines don't run without a spark plug and that is what you are, and have been since day one... Joe Arbunic 72 MGB Steve Lehmann wrote: > i got word this would be last palo alto show due to a land restoration > project. > > sorry so many of you folks dont have any humor. > > perhaps to me is that the club has far more people now than it did a few years > ago and most folks in it i dont know now. > > so for the sake of nobbc and to detour any further bleeding (dont want to > flood any rivers) and sufferings from those so badley injured-go ahead and > just axe me from the list. > steve lehmann-co founder nobbc. > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From DPaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us Wed Sep 5 09:58:11 2007 From: DPaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us (Paige, Dean) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:58:11 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] dixon sinking-serra snowpack. In-Reply-To: <6fd901ba0709032121o6c5367c5ge5e3b2783da0f758@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <31326F2924F6474AB899F2AB6A197910020840F1@mail1.sr.local> Hey Charles, Guilt should not be an option. I bought my TR-6 off the showroom floor in 73. For many many many years it was my daily driver, in truth my only car. It's been in NYC, and to Key West, it got me from Chicago to Santa Barbara, CA in 76, it's been 200+ miles into Baja and as far north as Wash. State. Just chalked up 322,000 miles last week. Since 73 have only owned the TR a GT-6 (for a very short time), a Series III Jag and my current partner to the TR a 98 VDP. All have been maintained to the best of my ability. Considering what kind of energy and materials usage it takes to build a new car and added to that the cost of recycling that car in the end and you've got a heap of consumption of resources. As an Environmental Biologist by education and having worked in the Enviro Compliance field for 24 years now I believe that I have made a contribution to keeping a green profile. Simply by not insisting on having a new car every year or 2 I have conserved resources. As to our animated, illustriously eccentric, slightly bent Steve I offer this. (Love you anyway Steve) He is who he is. He is certainly a unique individual. Most significantly though, he was the driving force along with the more sedate Ron that brought NOBBC into being. A previous girl friend of mine (Jan Shapan) spotted him driving around his 4-A with a NOBBC banner and took down the phone #. That brought me into the picture. Jan set up the original NOBBC website, I started talking about NOBBC with some local LBC (Little British Cars for the uninitiated) vendors in Sonoma County and soon the word got around. The rest is history! So a little patience with Steve if you all please. His heart is in the right place. Let's not be so thin skinned folks, live and let live. As for unsubing of course that is anyone's prerogative. Keep in mind though, we all wouldn't be getting together on a regular basis except for Steve. His enthusiasm while at times over the top was an essential factor. And if we are only here to discuss our cars I'm afraid I am going to become bored very quickly. Deano -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charles English Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 9:21 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] dixon sinking-serra snowpack. Hi Steve, My name is Charles and I drive a 58 mga. Haven't made it out to a NOBBC event as I am expecting my first child any day now. It sounds like you are very opinionated about environmental issues. It may be sarcasm, but I thought I would try to connect. The environment is what forced me out of LA and into Sonoma Co. I am working on a Hydrogen On Demand system to supplement the dino fuel in the MG. Just wondering if you know of anyone doing that around here. I do love my MGA after spending 5 years on the frame off resto, but I notice I feel much less guilty driving my Prius. So the HOD system is my solution to have the best of both worlds. A (terrible) photo of my car is attached. Perhaps after I have a bit more free time, the group can do a garage visit of my project. I have been talking with Ron about that. Cheers, Charles On 9/3/07, Steve Lehmann wrote: > > due to the resoration project in palo alto and illeagle dreadging the > cali centrell valley is being sucked flat and dixon is sinking!!!!!!!! > the serra nevada snowpack will soon be in sepastopole!!!! > better call al gore!!!! > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Picture 013.jpg] _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From tsthresh at hotmail.com Wed Sep 5 10:46:37 2007 From: tsthresh at hotmail.com (TIM THRESH) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:46:37 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] welcome-robin-apex. In-Reply-To: References: <000c01c7ef4f$82f222b0$cbfae304@stevewbxu6x2qe> Message-ID: Robin, Welcome to the club. I am one of the Santa Rosa Brits (passport that is) you helped in your working life. Drive a red 1958 (daily driver) MGA, and was referred to you by another (until recently) member Nigel Mott with his blue TR6. I heard that Nigel, who was a member of NOBBC on eyear ago has now sold his TR? If he is still on this list he may correct me! Guys, Robin had a warehouse full of BC's and if he still has a selection of them is a great source of information and experience. You need to make sure to neighbor with him about your favorite vehicle.... My wife and I now run a B&B in SR so week-end rides are tough for me throughout the summer (sorry not to see you all). When the weather becomes cooler AND I can fix a long-running fuel starvation issue, you will see me on a run again. Promise, Ron! Regard, Tim Thresh > From: apexbrit at msn.com> To: nobbc at autox.team.net> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:55:09 -0700> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Brit Cars-robin-apex.> > Steve - good to meet up again and I do remember the TR4A - a daily driver, it> seemed; and these old Brits like to be driven. > > Yeah, Jag heads were a> specialty. Was doing my fair share of Jag work in those days, along with a> flock of MGB, and much good work setting up TR-6's and Jensen Healeys for smog> - then re-tuning to run decently!> > Anyway, Brit cars are still fun and am> happy to meet up with fellow enthusiasts, once again.> > I also belong to ESCA> which is mainly auto Xing now with a few ralleys and tours thrown in. Their> membership is huge ( mostly Asian cars) because of the racing (as they call> it). I am inactive since I sold the Z autocrosser.> > In my previous bit I> neglected to include my ownership of 4 liquid suspension MG/BMC's whatever> they were called - also fun to drive. Also an uncountable number of Cortinas> (maybe 7 or eight). Both sons learned to drive in them. I drove the Tom Rust/> Bob Winkelmann Anglia in the Crow's Landing Trans Am Sedan Race back in 1960> something. Yikes - spent all my time keeping out of the way of Mustangs and> Camaros ; must have been young and stupid! Still probably stupid.> > And so it> goes, mates...> > Just tell me to shut up when I go on so much.> > Cheers,> Rob> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve> Lehmann > To: North Bay British Car> Club > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 4:58> PM> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Brit Cars-robin-apex.> > > YES ROB reminber you> well!!!> your shop was next to a muffler shop and yes i was by a few times> to hustle > the nobbc.> had (and still do) a red tr4a-> yes that was in> the fourmulative period.> good to hear from you!> as you can see, ron,> myself,and deano sucsseeded.> yes i do remimember you robin.> you had the> valve train in pices on a 6 cyl jag last time i was by.> steve-colorado.> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robin Jackson"> >> To:> >> Sent: Tuesday,> September 04, 2007 2:56 PM> Subject: [Nobbc] Brit Cars> > > > I'm new to> this group, but not new to Brit cars. Bought my first one, 1949 > > TC,> >> in 1953; today I am working to get my 1962 Mk2 on the road and maybe the> >> Series III Sunbeam after that.> >> > I've owned a few others: AH 100-4 I> drove> > from Quantico,VA to Mill Valley in 1956; MGA; 1958 Mog+4 (totaled> it on > > Hwy 1> > at the Fireside) 1959 Mog +4 (went SCCA racing with it)> ;1954 Flat Rad Mog > > :> > TR-3 (raced this too); Lotus 22 (3rd in Class> B San Fran Region SCCA, 5th> > national runoffs at Riverside); 1969> Europa(recently sold).> >> > I owned and> > operated Apex British Motors> on East Todd in Santa Rosa for many years and> > became known as one who> could eventually fix problems with old Jags, Mogs,> > Bently, Rolls, Lotus,> even an Allard.> >> > I think Steve came by to visit a few> > times and> told me about his idea for a "club." At the time a few customers > > and> > "roadies" were doing "Dawn Patrols" out of my shop - a once a month run> > similar to the Sunday Moring Ride.> >> > After a couple of years> retirement I'm> > attacking the Mk2 with renewed vigor so as to soon join> you all on your > > runs> > and fun. I am taking a hiatus from rebuilding> suspension, calipers, and am > > now> > working on sadly neglected wood> work. I purchased the car from a Cazadero> > resident who let it get soggy> inside under redwood for 3 years. Yuch; it > > will> > never be a show> quality car, just a good runner.> >> > See ya soon. Cant make PA> > this> year and have never been to the Dixon event, althoug I am told it is> >> excellent. I think the Lotus club is revving up to take the participation> >> award again at PA!> >> > Rob Jackson> > Mk2 Jag> > Series 3 Sunbeam> > _______________________________________________> > Nobbc mailing list> >> Nobbc at autox.team.net> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc stinfo/nobbc> > _______________________________________________> Nobbc> mailing list> Nobbc at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc stinfo/nobbc>> _______________________________________________> Nobbc mailing list> Nobbc at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at pacbell.net Wed Sep 5 13:06:56 2007 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:06:56 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] dixon sinking-serra snowpack. In-Reply-To: <31326F2924F6474AB899F2AB6A197910020840F1@mail1.sr.local> References: <31326F2924F6474AB899F2AB6A197910020840F1@mail1.sr.local> Message-ID: <46DEFE50.3090309@pacbell.net> Paige, Dean wrote: > I believe that I have made a > contribution to keeping a green profile. Simply by not insisting on > having a new car every year or 2 I have conserved resources. > I think that's a great point. I've tried to make that a number of times to friends with no interest in classic cars, and they just counter with air pollution concerns (drive behind some of us and that seems valid). My response is that most of us don't drive them that often, we don't usually drive them in lots of traffic, and our use of them is offset by the air pollution created during manufacture of new cars and destruction of old ones. So far I haven't convinced those nay-sayers. > As to our animated, illustriously eccentric, slightly bent Steve I offer > this. Let's not be so thin skinned folks, live and let > live. As for unsubing of course that is anyone's prerogative. Keep in > mind though, we all wouldn't be getting together on a regular basis > except for Steve. > That's valid, Dean, but I agree with Don - I don't want to wade through a bunch of off-topic politicizing in this email list, or any of the others I am on. As I recall from childhood, one of Charles Schultz characters (Linus?) said, "To know me is to love me" - maybe that's true with Steve. This sounds like the NOBBC is having some growing pains; the club has more members and other people now putting in their time and energy to help the club grow, which seems like a good thing to encourage. Cheers, Greg From apexbrit at msn.com Wed Sep 5 14:46:31 2007 From: apexbrit at msn.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:46:31 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] welcome-robin-apex. References: <000c01c7ef4f$82f222b0$cbfae304@stevewbxu6x2qe> Message-ID: Hello Jim, thanks for the welcome. I certainly remember your red MGA and you too. (sometimes I remember the cars better than the owners!) I have lost track of Nigel and his TR6, Blue. Last time we talked he was going to fit FI to her and was perhaps being transferred to Scotland. See ya on the road, mate. Cheers, Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: TIM THRESH To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] welcome-robin-apex. Robin, Welcome to the club. I am one of the Santa Rosa Brits (passport that is) you helped in your working life. Drive a red 1958 (daily driver) MGA, and was referred to you by another (until recently) member Nigel Mott with his blue TR6. I heard that Nigel, who was a member of NOBBC on eyear ago has now sold his TR? If he is still on this list he may correct me! Guys, Robin had a warehouse full of BC's and if he still has a selection of them is a great source of information and experience. You need to make sure to neighbor with him about your favorite vehicle.... My wife and I now run a B&B in SR so week-end rides are tough for me throughout the summer (sorry not to see you all). When the weather becomes cooler AND I can fix a long-running fuel starvation issue, you will see me on a run again. Promise, Ron! Regard, Tim Thresh > From: apexbrit at msn.com> To: nobbc at autox.team.net> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:55:09 -0700> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Brit Cars-robin-apex.> > Steve - good to meet up again and I do remember the TR4A - a daily driver, it> seemed; and these old Brits like to be driven. > > Yeah, Jag heads were a> specialty. Was doing my fair share of Jag work in those days, along with a> flock of MGB, and much good work setting up TR-6's and Jensen Healeys for smog> - then re-tuning to run decently!> > Anyway, Brit cars are still fun and am> happy to meet up with fellow enthusiasts, once again.> > I also belong to ESCA> which is mainly auto Xing now with a few ralleys and tours thrown in. Their> membership is huge ( mostly Asian cars) because of the racing (as they call> it). I am inactive since I sold the Z autocrosser.> > In my previous bit I> neglected to include my ownership of 4 liquid suspension MG/BMC's whatever> they were called - also fun to drive. Also an uncountable number of Cortinas> (maybe 7 or eight). Both sons learned to drive in them. I drove the Tom Rust/> Bob Winkelmann Anglia in the Crow's Landing Trans Am Sedan Race back in 1960> something. Yikes - spent all my time keeping out of the way of Mustangs and> Camaros ; must have been young and stupid! Still probably stupid.> > And so it> goes, mates...> > Just tell me to shut up when I go on so much.> > Cheers,> Rob> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve> Lehmann> > To: North Bay British Car> Club> > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 4:58> PM> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Brit Cars-robin-apex.> > > YES ROB reminber you> well!!!> your shop was next to a muffler shop and yes i was by a few times> to hustle > the nobbc.> had (and still do) a red tr4a-> yes that was in> the fourmulative period.> good to hear from you!> as you can see, ron,> myself,and deano sucsseeded.> yes i do remimember you robin.> you had the> valve train in pices on a 6 cyl jag last time i was by.> steve-colorado.> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robin Jackson"> >>> To:> >>> Sent: Tuesday,> September 04, 2007 2:56 PM> Subject: [Nobbc] Brit Cars> > > > I'm new to> this group, but not new to Brit cars. Bought my first one, 1949 > > TC,> >> in 1953; today I am working to get my 1962 Mk2 on the road and maybe the> >> Series III Sunbeam after that.> >> > I've owned a few others: AH 100-4 I> drove> > from Quantico,VA to Mill Valley in 1956; MGA; 1958 Mog+4 (totaled> it on > > Hwy 1> > at the Fireside) 1959 Mog +4 (went SCCA racing with it)> ;1954 Flat Rad Mog > > :> > TR-3 (raced this too); Lotus 22 (3rd in Class> B San Fran Region SCCA, 5th> > national runoffs at Riverside); 1969> Europa(recently sold).> >> > I owned and> > operated Apex British Motors> on East Todd in Santa Rosa for many years and> > became known as one who> could eventually fix problems with old Jags, Mogs,> > Bently, Rolls, Lotus,> even an Allard.> >> > I think Steve came by to visit a few> > times and> told me about his idea for a "club." At the time a few customers > > and> > "roadies" were doing "Dawn Patrols" out of my shop - a once a month run> > similar to the Sunday Moring Ride.> >> > After a couple of years> retirement I'm> > attacking the Mk2 with renewed vigor so as to soon join> you all on your > > runs> > and fun. I am taking a hiatus from rebuilding> suspension, calipers, and am > > now> > working on sadly neglected wood> work. I purchased the car from a Cazadero> > resident who let it get soggy> inside under redwood for 3 years. Yuch; it > > will> > never be a show> quality car, just a good runner.> >> > See ya soon. Cant make PA> > this> year and have never been to the Dixon event, althoug I am told it is> >> excellent. I think the Lotus club is revving up to take the participation> >> award again at PA!> >> > Rob Jackson> > Mk2 Jag> > Series 3 Sunbeam> > _______________________________________________> > Nobbc mailing list> >> Nobbc at autox.team.net>> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc> stinfo/nobbc> > _______________________________________________> Nobbc> mailing list> Nobbc at autox.team.net>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc> stinfo/nobbc>> _______________________________________________> Nobbc mailing list> Nobbc at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From rfarmery at peoplepc.com Wed Sep 5 16:40:45 2007 From: rfarmery at peoplepc.com (Russell) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:40:45 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Nobbc] Just a quick Hello Message-ID: <17808535.1189032046076.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hello to all i have been a member of this club for a short while but have remianed in the shadows until now and decided to join the list. i am 35 living in Petaluma and am currently restoring a 1968 GT6 Mk1, it's coming along quite well but still have a fair ways to go until i am able to join the weekend runs i have read so much about. I have a little past experience of restoring the 60's and 70's british cars when i lived in the UK (born there) but this one sure does take the cake in terms of workload etc.. Hope to meet some of you in the near future Best Regards Russell ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From gtwincams at pacbell.net Wed Sep 5 16:52:53 2007 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:52:53 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Just a quick Hello In-Reply-To: <17808535.1189032046076.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <17808535.1189032046076.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <46DF3345.4090504@pacbell.net> Very cool. Welcome, Russell, Greg Russell wrote: > Hello to all > > i have been a member of this club for a short while but have remianed in the shadows until now and decided to join the list. i am 35 living in Petaluma and am currently restoring a 1968 GT6 Mk1, it's coming along quite well but still have a fair ways to go until i am able to join the weekend runs i have read so much about. > > I have a little past experience of restoring the 60's and 70's british cars when i lived in the UK (born there) but this one sure does take the cake in terms of workload etc.. > > Hope to meet some of you in the near future > > Best Regards > > Russell > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sand at frii.com Wed Sep 5 19:08:22 2007 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:08:22 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] removed from list-instutions future. Message-ID: <000c01c7f022$6be5b900$3cfbe304@stevewbxu6x2qe> i will remove myself from this list as soon as my forgotten password arrives. anyone that would like to stay in contact can find me in the loveland colorado phonebook. steve lehmann colorado ave. From gtwincams at pacbell.net Wed Sep 5 20:40:40 2007 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:40:40 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] removed from list-instutions future. In-Reply-To: <000c01c7f022$6be5b900$3cfbe304@stevewbxu6x2qe> References: <000c01c7f022$6be5b900$3cfbe304@stevewbxu6x2qe> Message-ID: <46DF68A8.2010206@pacbell.net> Wow, Steve - I haven't heard anyone say they want you to quit, and you have many good friends here. There are just lots of new members, which is something you've said you are really proud and happy about. When you sent your emails you were talking to a wider audience than when the club was small. More people, more reactions. Hang tough, take the Triumph on a drive on some good roads, and let it slide. Not the car... ;-) Greg Steve Lehmann wrote: > i will remove myself from this list as soon as my forgotten password arrives. > > anyone that would like to stay in contact can find me in the loveland colorado > phonebook. > > steve lehmann > colorado ave. > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From wbain at sonic.net Thu Sep 6 10:08:47 2007 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 09:08:47 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Just a quick Hello In-Reply-To: <17808535.1189032046076.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <72E42D95-5C93-11DC-A2CF-000393817116@sonic.net> Hi Russell, Welcome to the group. Hope you can make some runs in the near future. I just pulled the engine/transmission out of my HRG, so I know that's going to be some work. Cheers, Wendell On Wednesday, September 5, 2007, at 03:40 PM, Russell wrote: > Hello to all > > i have been a member of this club for a short while but have remianed > in the shadows until now and decided to join the list. i am 35 living > in Petaluma and am currently restoring a 1968 GT6 Mk1, it's coming > along quite well but still have a fair ways to go until i am able to > join the weekend runs i have read so much about. > > I have a little past experience of restoring the 60's and 70's british > cars when i lived in the UK (born there) but this one sure does take > the cake in terms of workload etc.. > > Hope to meet some of you in the near future > > Best Regards > > Russell > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at pacbell.net Thu Sep 6 10:21:13 2007 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:21:13 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] HRG info In-Reply-To: <72E42D95-5C93-11DC-A2CF-000393817116@sonic.net> References: <72E42D95-5C93-11DC-A2CF-000393817116@sonic.net> Message-ID: <46E028F9.8010302@pacbell.net> No doubt Wendell has access to all the HRG info that's available, but for those of us like me who know little about the cars, these websites may be of interest. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20060627/ai_n16502761 http://www.amwmag.com/H/HRG_World/hrg_world.html a cool website for logos and info: http://www.cartype.com/ a little about Wendell's motor: http://www.cartype.com/page.cfm?id=871&alph=All&dec=All and a cool auto magazine compendium website: http://www.amwmag.com/ From apexbrit at msn.com Thu Sep 6 10:36:17 2007 From: apexbrit at msn.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 09:36:17 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] removed from list-instutions future. References: <000c01c7f022$6be5b900$3cfbe304@stevewbxu6x2qe> <46DF68A8.2010206@pacbell.net> Message-ID: I copy Greg's sentiments. It really doesn't make sense for the founder to drop off the list. When I met you I was impressed with how earnest you were in your appreciation of the cars we love... Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: gtwincams To: North Bay British Car Club ; Steve Lehmann Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] removed from list-instutions future. Wow, Steve - I haven't heard anyone say they want you to quit, and you have many good friends here. There are just lots of new members, which is something you've said you are really proud and happy about. When you sent your emails you were talking to a wider audience than when the club was small. More people, more reactions. Hang tough, take the Triumph on a drive on some good roads, and let it slide. Not the car... ;-) Greg Steve Lehmann wrote: > i will remove myself from this list as soon as my forgotten password arrives. > > anyone that would like to stay in contact can find me in the loveland colorado > phonebook. > > steve lehmann > colorado ave. > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From gtwincams at pacbell.net Thu Sep 6 10:41:37 2007 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:41:37 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] HRG info In-Reply-To: <46E028F9.8010302@pacbell.net> References: <72E42D95-5C93-11DC-A2CF-000393817116@sonic.net> <46E028F9.8010302@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <46E02DC1.4080806@pacbell.net> Oops! I gave the wrong link for the engine in Wendell's HRG... It's a Singer engine, not Sunbeam! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singer_(car) From wbain at sonic.net Thu Sep 6 10:49:25 2007 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 09:49:25 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] HRG info In-Reply-To: <46E028F9.8010302@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <2049CD92-5C99-11DC-A2CF-000393817116@sonic.net> Thanks Greg for including attached info. Guess I should have done that for those interested. Cheers, Wendell On Thursday, September 6, 2007, at 09:21 AM, gtwincams wrote: > No doubt Wendell has access to all the HRG info that's available, but > for those of us like me who know little about the cars, these websites > may be of interest. > > http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20060627/ai_n16502761 > http://www.amwmag.com/H/HRG_World/hrg_world.html > > a cool website for logos and info: > http://www.cartype.com/ > > a little about Wendell's motor: > http://www.cartype.com/page.cfm?id=871&alph=All&dec=All > > and a cool auto magazine compendium website: > http://www.amwmag.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From techyes at pacbell.net Thu Sep 6 14:57:10 2007 From: techyes at pacbell.net (Sheryl) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:57:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] removed from list-instutions future. In-Reply-To: <000c01c7f022$6be5b900$3cfbe304@stevewbxu6x2qe> Message-ID: <536875.80391.qm@web83615.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> No!! California lost some great local color when you left. We have never met, but please do stay :-) Sheryl & Dennis 2 1976 MGB's (we both get to drive :-) ) Steve Lehmann wrote: i will remove myself from this list as soon as my forgotten password arrives. anyone that would like to stay in contact can find me in the loveland colorado phonebook. steve lehmann colorado ave. _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From splath at comcast.net Thu Sep 6 19:04:49 2007 From: splath at comcast.net (Steve Plath) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:04:49 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] TR-6 for sale References: <72E42D95-5C93-11DC-A2CF-000393817116@sonic.net> Message-ID: <000b01c7f0eb$172aa500$6301a8c0@dell8300> For anyone who's interested. I just was picking up my Daimler from my mechanic and he's got a TR-6 in there that he says the owner is selling. It's a 73 steel bumper with 81,000 original miles. The car is in very orig condition. The paint looks pretty good and while it was up on the lift I couldn't see any rust or any indication of accidents. Interior is worn and needs work, but William says its in very good mechanical shape. The owner (who I don't know) wants $10K for it. Seems to be a pretty good price. If you're interested call William at Corte Madera British and European at 415-924-1450 and he can tell you all about it. There is nothing in this deal for me, I'm just passing it on to anyone of you who might be interested. Steve Plath, (who already has three Brit cars and doesn't have anyplace to store another.) From tkamstra at sonic.net Sun Sep 9 05:12:02 2007 From: tkamstra at sonic.net (Tcherek Kamstra) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 04:12:02 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] NOBBC web gallery Message-ID: Greetings all, I have added a photo gallery link to our web site. This gallery is for general photos as submitted by members, as opposed to the already established "past events" and "featured member autos" links. Basically, this is a general gallery featuring the splendid new photos which you are encouraged to submit to me starting now. Or, whenever you feel so inclined. Or now. Meanwhile, those who are recent members please check out our club web page at http://nobbc.com Please submit your JPEG images to tkamstra at sonic.net, and please include "NOBBC" somewhere in your e-mail, so that I can include your photos on the correct web site. Best regards, Tcherek NOBBC web mistress http://nobbc.com From nobbc at sonic.net Sun Sep 9 10:03:23 2007 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 09:03:23 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] NOBBC web gallery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46E4194B.4010308@sonic.net> Thanks Tcherek! Ron 58 MGA Tcherek Kamstra wrote: > Greetings all, > > I have added a photo gallery link to our web site. This gallery is > for general photos as submitted by members, as opposed to the already > established "past events" and "featured member autos" links. > Basically, this is a general gallery featuring the splendid new > photos which you are encouraged to submit to me starting now. > > Or, whenever you feel so inclined. Or now. > Meanwhile, those who are recent members please check out our club web > page at http://nobbc.com > > Please submit your JPEG images to tkamstra at sonic.net, and please > include "NOBBC" somewhere in your e-mail, so that I can include your > photos on the correct web site. > > Best regards, > > Tcherek > NOBBC web mistress > http://nobbc.com > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET Tue Sep 18 09:24:42 2007 From: FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET (JOHN KENNER) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 08:24:42 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE? Message-ID: <20070918152506.17186187BA8@autox.team.net> HI ALL, IS THERE A RIDE THIS SATURDAY? MEETING AT RIVER ROAD? JOHN KENNER From DPaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us Tue Sep 18 09:40:17 2007 From: DPaige at ci.santa-rosa.ca.us (Paige, Dean) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 08:40:17 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE? In-Reply-To: <20070918152506.17186187BA8@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <31326F2924F6474AB899F2AB6A19791002084102@mail1.sr.local> I believe that this is the time for a 4th Sunday of the month ride. Deano -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of JOHN KENNER Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:25 AM To: 'North Bay British Car Club' Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE? HI ALL, IS THERE A RIDE THIS SATURDAY? MEETING AT RIVER ROAD? JOHN KENNER _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Tue Sep 18 10:02:57 2007 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:02:57 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE? In-Reply-To: <31326F2924F6474AB899F2AB6A19791002084102@mail1.sr.local> References: <31326F2924F6474AB899F2AB6A19791002084102@mail1.sr.local> Message-ID: <46EFF6B1.3040805@sonic.net> Dean is correct, Sunday is the fourth Sunday of the month, our regular ride date. So far, no one has offered a ride suggestion. The meeting will take place at 10 AM in the River Rd. commuter lot and those present will decide on the route. I have to say that this time of year (Sept.-Oct.) has some of the best riding weather so there should be a good turnout. Any suggestions for a destination? Ron 58 MGA Paige, Dean wrote: > I believe that this is the time for a 4th Sunday of the month ride. > > Deano > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of JOHN KENNER > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:25 AM > To: 'North Bay British Car Club' > Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE? > > HI ALL, > > > > IS THERE A RIDE THIS SATURDAY? > > > > MEETING AT RIVER ROAD? > > > > JOHN KENNER > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Wed Sep 19 09:43:40 2007 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:43:40 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday ride reminder Message-ID: <46F143AC.50304@sonic.net> Our next ride will be this coming Sunday 9/23/07 meeting in the usual spot just west of 101 on River Rd. (PG&E commuter lot). The group present will decide on a route so bring some ideas as well as lunch, sunscreen, etc. Ron 58 MGA From sand at frii.com Thu Sep 20 17:58:06 2007 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:58:06 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] please send ride photos- Message-ID: <001601c7fbe2$17819f20$3bd6e104@stevewbxu6x2qe> sand at frii.com send nobbc photos-tx. From FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET Sat Sep 22 08:39:37 2007 From: FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET (JOHN KENNER) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 07:39:37 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE TOMORROW Message-ID: <20070922144000.5AECB1879CF@autox.team.net> ANYONE GOING FOR THE RIDE TOMORROW? JOHN KENNER From wbain at sonic.net Sat Sep 22 11:14:21 2007 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:14:21 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE TOMORROW In-Reply-To: <20070922144000.5AECB1879CF@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <42BB6678-692F-11DC-9BFA-000393817116@sonic.net> Well I was planning on going if we don't get a monsoon. It's supposed to be nice on Sunday. Cheers, Wendell Bain On Saturday, September 22, 2007, at 07:39 AM, JOHN KENNER wrote: > ANYONE GOING FOR THE RIDE TOMORROW? > > > > JOHN KENNER > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sand at frii.com Sat Sep 22 20:05:12 2007 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:05:12 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] RIDE TOMORROW References: <42BB6678-692F-11DC-9BFA-000393817116@sonic.net> Message-ID: <000801c7fd86$2d85b1d0$7efde304@stevewbxu6x2qe> put up your bonnets and go. send photo,s. steve. sand at frii.com just drive,and enjoy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "wendell bain" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] RIDE TOMORROW > Well I was planning on going if we don't get a monsoon. > It's supposed to be nice on Sunday. > > Cheers, > Wendell Bain > > On Saturday, September 22, 2007, at 07:39 AM, JOHN KENNER wrote: > >> ANYONE GOING FOR THE RIDE TOMORROW? >> >> >> >> JOHN KENNER >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Mon Sep 24 12:01:38 2007 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:01:38 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Yesterday Message-ID: <46F7FB82.4000002@sonic.net> So how did the ride go yesterday? From wbain at sonic.net Mon Sep 24 12:50:42 2007 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:50:42 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Yesterday In-Reply-To: <46F7FB82.4000002@sonic.net> Message-ID: <0D65E5D4-6ACF-11DC-A4CA-000393817116@sonic.net> What ride???? Just kidding. Great run. Dean with the red TR-6 led. Five cars went on the run although four more showed up at the beginning. Greg Tatarian in the Lotus Elan, The fellow with the March F1 car in a TR-3, another in a newly acquired Triumph Herald and the dark blue TR-6. Sorry I don't know everyone's name. On the run the couple with the two MGB's, rubber bumper, yellow and BRG. The man with the Austin Healey 3000, above mentioned red TR-6 and me in the Morgan. We went out Chalk Hill Road to the highway in Anderson Valley to the Jimtown Store for eats and drinks to take to the picnic site and drove back toward Calistoga to a park I had never been to next to the police station. Nice place. Short run. BS'd for awhile at the picnic stop and everyone went their separate ways. Great weather. Good event. Too bad you couldn't make this one, but I'm sure you'll be back when you have mended. All the best. Cheers, Wendell On Monday, September 24, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > So how did the ride go yesterday? > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From wbain at sonic.net Mon Sep 24 13:39:26 2007 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:39:26 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Yesterday In-Reply-To: <0D65E5D4-6ACF-11DC-A4CA-000393817116@sonic.net> Message-ID: Sorry that should have been Alexander Valley. Anderson Valley is a little further up the road. On Monday, September 24, 2007, at 11:50 AM, wendell bain wrote: > What ride???? Just kidding. Great run. Dean with the red TR-6 led. Five > cars went on the > run although four more showed up at the beginning. Greg Tatarian in the > Lotus Elan, > The fellow with the March F1 car in a TR-3, another in a newly acquired > Triumph > Herald and the dark blue TR-6. Sorry I don't know everyone's name. > On the run the couple with the two MGB's, rubber bumper, yellow and BRG. > The man with > the Austin Healey 3000, above mentioned red TR-6 and me in the Morgan. > > We went out Chalk Hill Road to the highway in Anderson Valley to the > Jimtown Store for > eats and drinks to take to the picnic site and drove back toward > Calistoga to a park I had > never been to next to the police station. Nice place. Short run. BS'd > for awhile at the > picnic stop and everyone went their separate ways. Great weather. Good > event. > Too bad you couldn't make this one, but I'm sure you'll be back when you > have > mended. All the best. > > Cheers, > Wendell > > On Monday, September 24, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > >> So how did the ride go yesterday? >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Mon Sep 24 13:59:32 2007 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:59:32 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Yesterday In-Reply-To: <0D65E5D4-6ACF-11DC-A4CA-000393817116@sonic.net> References: <0D65E5D4-6ACF-11DC-A4CA-000393817116@sonic.net> Message-ID: <46F81724.9060803@sonic.net> Thanks for the info, sounds like a great ride. I'm feeling really good now and should make the October rides. Ron 58 MGA wendell bain wrote: > What ride???? Just kidding. Great run. Dean with the red TR-6 led. Five > cars went on the > run although four more showed up at the beginning. Greg Tatarian in the > Lotus Elan, > The fellow with the March F1 car in a TR-3, another in a newly acquired > Triumph > Herald and the dark blue TR-6. Sorry I don't know everyone's name. > On the run the couple with the two MGB's, rubber bumper, yellow and BRG. > The man with > the Austin Healey 3000, above mentioned red TR-6 and me in the Morgan. > > We went out Chalk Hill Road to the highway in Anderson Valley to the > Jimtown Store for > eats and drinks to take to the picnic site and drove back toward > Calistoga to a park I had > never been to next to the police station. Nice place. Short run. BS'd > for awhile at the > picnic stop and everyone went their separate ways. Great weather. Good > event. > Too bad you couldn't make this one, but I'm sure you'll be back when you > have > mended. All the best. > > Cheers, > Wendell > > On Monday, September 24, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > > >>So how did the ride go yesterday? >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc mailing list >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sand at frii.com Mon Sep 24 18:07:17 2007 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:07:17 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] Yesterday-pics- References: Message-ID: <003001c7ff08$097a4de0$04fee304@stevewbxu6x2qe> hey guys send the pics.TX. sand at frii.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "wendell bain" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Yesterday > Sorry that should have been Alexander Valley. Anderson Valley is a little > further up the road. > > > On Monday, September 24, 2007, at 11:50 AM, wendell bain wrote: > >> What ride???? Just kidding. Great run. Dean with the red TR-6 led. Five >> cars went on the >> run although four more showed up at the beginning. Greg Tatarian in the >> Lotus Elan, >> The fellow with the March F1 car in a TR-3, another in a newly acquired >> Triumph >> Herald and the dark blue TR-6. Sorry I don't know everyone's name. >> On the run the couple with the two MGB's, rubber bumper, yellow and BRG. >> The man with >> the Austin Healey 3000, above mentioned red TR-6 and me in the Morgan. >> >> We went out Chalk Hill Road to the highway in Anderson Valley to the >> Jimtown Store for >> eats and drinks to take to the picnic site and drove back toward >> Calistoga to a park I had >> never been to next to the police station. Nice place. Short run. BS'd >> for awhile at the >> picnic stop and everyone went their separate ways. Great weather. Good >> event. >> Too bad you couldn't make this one, but I'm sure you'll be back when you >> have >> mended. All the best. >> >> Cheers, >> Wendell >> >> On Monday, September 24, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: >> >>> So how did the ride go yesterday? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc