From gtwincams at pacbell.net Thu Oct 4 08:16:20 2007 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 07:16:20 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Sausalito Classic Car Show - Sunday Oct. 7 In-Reply-To: <42BB6678-692F-11DC-9BFA-000393817116@sonic.net> References: <42BB6678-692F-11DC-9BFA-000393817116@sonic.net> Message-ID: <4704F5B4.8050006@pacbell.net> Hi group, For those who are not familiar with it, the Sausalito Classic Car Show, this Sunday, Oct. 7, is well worth the visit. Though not a strictly British show, there are usually a lot there. The show has an increasing number of cars each year, and include classic, vintage, antique, special interest, custom, and hot rods from the 30's through the 60's, with some more contemporary exotic cars. Here's the link to the rather uninspiring web site where you can get a map, download an application, find the hours, etc.: http://www.sausalitoclassiccarshow.com/ Here's a better link, showing some cars from the 2003 show: http://www.marinsbest.com/classic/pageone.htm and from the 2005 show: http://rides.webshots.com/album/470239736HkowAt Cheers, Greg Tatarian 1971 Lotus Elan 1974 Triumph TR6 From gtwincams at pacbell.net Thu Oct 4 13:46:43 2007 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 12:46:43 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] CSRG races at Infineon Message-ID: <47054323.40902@pacbell.net> Hello group, The Classic Sports Racing Group (CSRG) charity challenge is October 12-14 at Infineon. It will feature historic Grand Prix and Nascar cars, and though it is not as large a gathering as the Wine Country Classics, is really grass-roots classic sports racing at its best. Lots of nice folks to meet and talk to, and great racing action. Check out the website: http://www.csrgracing.org/ Cheers, Greg Tatarian From FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET Thu Oct 4 20:14:14 2007 From: FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET (JOHN KENNER) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 19:14:14 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] A RIDE Message-ID: <20071005021431.94F42187C27@autox.team.net> IS THERE A RIDE THIS SATURDAY? I STILL NEED TO GO TO ST. HELENA FOR SOME OLIVE OIL. JOHN KENNER From nobbc at sonic.net Thu Oct 4 20:41:53 2007 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:41:53 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] A RIDE In-Reply-To: <20071005021431.94F42187C27@autox.team.net> References: <20071005021431.94F42187C27@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <4705A471.7010105@sonic.net> The ride will be on the 13th, the second Saturday. St. Helena sounds like a good destination. Why not work up a route and we'll do it. Ron 58 MGA JOHN KENNER wrote: > IS THERE A RIDE THIS SATURDAY? > > > > I STILL NEED TO GO TO ST. HELENA FOR SOME OLIVE OIL. > > > > JOHN KENNER > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sand at frii.com Fri Oct 5 22:11:59 2007 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 22:11:59 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] anybody up to snuff on a.b.s.-toyota Message-ID: <000d01c807cf$0b38ddc0$93fbe304@stevewbxu6x2qe> o.k.- it aint brit car- heres the poop- toyota tacoma 4x4 -(2000) hard shakes when moderate or better brake apply- just replaced rotors and drums- and yes even tightend down the wheel lugs. pulses comming into a slow stop. shoes and pads new as well- still shaking like a tree leafe stopping downhill or hard. power brakes and a.b.s. as said- help wanted. b.t.w. no pedel pulseing brakes still feel mushey at best. pedal it high but just feels untrustworthey. like i said-it aint m.g. or jag. but brakes is brakes. From sand at frii.com Mon Oct 8 19:09:42 2007 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:09:42 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] hey-your quiet- all o.k.? Message-ID: <000601c80a11$13ab62e0$79d5e104@stevewbxu6x2qe> just checking w/ron- havent heared anything from him in a week or so- ill give it untill wensday-if no responce ill call candy at home ron.. fireback ron or maybe he,s up in sacto........... s.j.l. From nobbc at sonic.net Wed Oct 10 11:28:02 2007 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:28:02 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] October Schedule Message-ID: <470D0BA2.3030409@sonic.net> Our first ride this month will be this coming Saturday 10/13, the second ride will be Sunday 10/28. Both will start at 10 AM in the usual spot west of 101 on River Rd. unless someone suggests a specific destination and/or starting location. The weather Saturday is supposed to be fantastic but if it is raining, we'll go Sunday. Our winter schedule traditionally starts in November...we switch to one scheduled ride a month (usually the second Saturday) starting at noon. Unscheduled rides will also occasionally occur per member's requests. Some of our best rides in the past have been during the winter months so don't miss out. Ron 58 MGA From gtwincams at pacbell.net Mon Oct 15 17:03:35 2007 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:03:35 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday's Drive? Message-ID: <4713F1C7.7040205@pacbell.net> Hey group, How did the drive go last Saturday? I attended the CSRG races, so didn't join up, but the weather that day was great for both events. Walter - did you finish painting your Sprite? How about some pics? Cheers, Greg Tatarian From nobbc at sonic.net Mon Oct 15 18:22:48 2007 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:22:48 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday's Drive? In-Reply-To: <4713F1C7.7040205@pacbell.net> References: <4713F1C7.7040205@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <47140458.3070601@sonic.net> Well, you missed a really nice ride, the weather couldn't have been better. We went over Trinity to Mt. Veeder Rd. then down to Napa and around to the DeRosa Preseve followed by Artesa Winery (exceptional views) and a stop at the Farm Deli for sandwiches and lunch. This time of year is perfect for British car motoring. Not too cold, not too hot and generally quite clear. Let's hope our Sunday ride on the 28th follows this pattern. Ron 58 MGA gtwincams wrote: > Hey group, > How did the drive go last Saturday? I attended the CSRG races, so didn't > join up, but the weather that day was great for both events. > Walter - did you finish painting your Sprite? How about some pics? > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Mon Oct 15 18:27:31 2007 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:27:31 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Swap Meet? Message-ID: <47140573.4060807@sonic.net> Robin Jackson (apexbrit at msn.com) sent me the following email and I thought I'd throw it out to you all to see if there's any interest: ********************************************************************** Ron - I have been getting some work done on the old Jag and hopefully will make next Summer's rides, if not before. Have you considered having a parts swap? I have boxes of parts that I brought home when I closed my shop. Lots of freebies (or pay a donation for the beer fund!) and some new items - filters, hoses, tune up parts that would go very cheaply. Maybe others have parts to swap/sell cheap (that's what makes it fun). ********************************************************************** Suggestions, thoughts, anyone want to run with this? Ron 58 MGA From zarco at sonic.net Mon Oct 15 19:03:27 2007 From: zarco at sonic.net (Steve) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:03:27 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Swap Meet? References: <47140573.4060807@sonic.net> Message-ID: <000e01c80f90$5d315300$c96094d1@starwars> I've got lots of extra parts for many Britmobiles, and would love to see a local swapmeet. Dixon is the only one that I know of, and its a bit too far to haul truck loads of stuff to. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" To: Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 5:27 PM Subject: [Nobbc] Swap Meet? > Robin Jackson (apexbrit at msn.com) sent me the following email and I > thought I'd throw it out to you all to see if there's any interest: > > ********************************************************************** > Ron - I have been getting some work done on the old Jag and hopefully > will make next Summer's rides, if not before. > > Have you considered having a parts swap? I have boxes of parts that I > brought home when I closed my shop. Lots of freebies (or pay a donation > for the beer fund!) and some new items - filters, hoses, tune up parts > that would go very cheaply. Maybe others have parts to swap/sell cheap > (that's what makes it fun). > > ********************************************************************** > > Suggestions, thoughts, anyone want to run with this? > > Ron > 58 MGA > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/312 - Release Date: 4/14/2006 From FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET Mon Oct 15 19:40:30 2007 From: FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET (JOHN KENNER) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:40:30 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Swap Meet? In-Reply-To: <47140573.4060807@sonic.net> Message-ID: <20071016014049.A77731879BC@autox.team.net> RON, I'D BE HAPPY TO HOST A SWAP MEET AT MY PLACE, JOHN KENNER -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 5:28 PM To: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: [Nobbc] Swap Meet? Robin Jackson (apexbrit at msn.com) sent me the following email and I thought I'd throw it out to you all to see if there's any interest: ********************************************************************** Ron - I have been getting some work done on the old Jag and hopefully will make next Summer's rides, if not before. Have you considered having a parts swap? I have boxes of parts that I brought home when I closed my shop. Lots of freebies (or pay a donation for the beer fund!) and some new items - filters, hoses, tune up parts that would go very cheaply. Maybe others have parts to swap/sell cheap (that's what makes it fun). ********************************************************************** Suggestions, thoughts, anyone want to run with this? Ron 58 MGA _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sand at frii.com Tue Oct 16 05:59:08 2007 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:59:08 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] swap meet- Message-ID: <000a01c80feb$f5c7eab0$efd1e104@stevewbxu6x2qe> sounds like a winner to me- i would say take a date at least a few months into the future as to let people set that day aside- hardest part seems to me would be where to have it. paking lot of vets building s.r. might be had cheep. From gtwincams at pacbell.net Tue Oct 16 08:15:25 2007 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 07:15:25 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday's Drive, swap meet In-Reply-To: <47140458.3070601@sonic.net> References: <4713F1C7.7040205@pacbell.net> <47140458.3070601@sonic.net> Message-ID: <4714C77D.5050401@pacbell.net> Hi Ron, Great to hear you are back in the saddle! I'm glad your first club drive was such a beauty. Did you actually stop at the DiRosa Preserve, or motor past? I'm doing some consulting for them - small world. Great idea to go to Artesa - nice road up, and great views. We took a friend and his friend from France up there last year. Sounds great - I'm glad the races were fun, or I'd be really bumming now... Regarding the swap meet idea, sounds good to me. Cheers, Greg Tatarian From wbain at sonic.net Tue Oct 16 11:22:38 2007 From: wbain at sonic.net (wendell bain) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:22:38 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday's Drive? In-Reply-To: <47140458.3070601@sonic.net> Message-ID: <64D3A390-7C0C-11DC-9691-000393817116@sonic.net> Ron, Glad to hear you are up and running again. I went to the CSRG races at Sears Pt. both days. Lots of fun. Not familiar with the DeRosa Preserve or Artesa Winery. Have to find out about those. Sounds like you had a good run. I will be in So. Cal. on the 28th so I probably won't be able to make another run until November. Wendell 59 Morgan On Monday, October 15, 2007, at 05:22 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > Well, you missed a really nice ride, the weather couldn't have been > better. We went over Trinity to Mt. Veeder Rd. then down to Napa and > around to the DeRosa Preseve followed by Artesa Winery (exceptional > views) and a stop at the Farm Deli for sandwiches and lunch. > > This time of year is perfect for British car motoring. Not too cold, not > too hot and generally quite clear. Let's hope our Sunday ride on the > 28th follows this pattern. > > Ron > 58 MGA > > gtwincams wrote: > >> Hey group, >> How did the drive go last Saturday? I attended the CSRG races, so >> didn't >> join up, but the weather that day was great for both events. >> Walter - did you finish painting your Sprite? How about some pics? >> Cheers, >> Greg Tatarian >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From CTWehn at cs.com Tue Oct 16 11:40:52 2007 From: CTWehn at cs.com (CTWehn at cs.com) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:40:52 -0400 Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday's Drive? Message-ID: <64AB15D8.735FC6E2.000435C1@cs.com> Ron, sounds like a great ride, sorry I missed it. Just as I was ready to leave and join you, I got a desperate call from my Vineyard manager saying that he had hit an underground water pipe up to the houses. So instead of going on a beautiful ride, I played in the mud. Glad you're up and around again. Hope to see you all on the last Sunday. Charlie TR6,7,8 wendell bain wrote: >Ron, >Glad to hear you are up and running again. I went to the CSRG races >at Sears Pt. both days. Lots of fun. Not familiar with the DeRosa >Preserve >or Artesa Winery. Have to find out about those. Sounds like you >had a good run. >I will be in So. Cal. on the 28th so I probably won't be able to make >another run until November. > >Wendell >59 Morgan > >On Monday, October 15, 2007, at 05:22 PM, Ron Engelhardt wrote: > >> Well, you missed a really nice ride, the weather couldn't have been >> better. We went over Trinity to Mt. Veeder Rd. then down to Napa and >> around to the DeRosa Preseve followed by Artesa Winery (exceptional >> views) and a stop at the Farm Deli for sandwiches and lunch. >> >> This time of year is perfect for British car motoring. Not too cold, not >> too hot and generally quite clear. Let's hope our Sunday ride on the >> 28th follows this pattern. >> >> Ron >> 58 MGA >> >> gtwincams wrote: >> >>> Hey group, >>> How did the drive go last Saturday? I attended the CSRG races, so >>> didn't >>> join up, but the weather that day was great for both events. >>> Walter - did you finish painting your Sprite? How about some pics? >>> Cheers, >>> Greg Tatarian >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nobbc mailing list >>> Nobbc at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >_______________________________________________ >Nobbc mailing list >Nobbc at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Tue Oct 16 13:15:03 2007 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:15:03 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday's Drive, swap meet In-Reply-To: <4714C77D.5050401@pacbell.net> References: <4713F1C7.7040205@pacbell.net> <47140458.3070601@sonic.net> <4714C77D.5050401@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <47150DB7.7010104@sonic.net> We did stop in the Preserve but didn't stay long as there were no picnic facilities, we didn't have a reservation for the tour and the tour was two hours long. We went to Artesa next but there were no picnic facilities there either so, after enjoying the view, we went to the Farm deli and had a picnic. Ron 58 MGA gtwincams wrote: > Hi Ron, > Great to hear you are back in the saddle! I'm glad your first club drive > was such a beauty. Did you actually stop at the DiRosa Preserve, or > motor past? I'm doing some consulting for them - small world. Great idea > to go to Artesa - nice road up, and great views. We took a friend and > his friend from France up there last year. Sounds great - I'm glad the > races were fun, or I'd be really bumming now... > Regarding the swap meet idea, sounds good to me. > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian From nobbc at sonic.net Tue Oct 16 13:16:42 2007 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:16:42 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Saturday's Drive? In-Reply-To: <64AB15D8.735FC6E2.000435C1@cs.com> References: <64AB15D8.735FC6E2.000435C1@cs.com> Message-ID: <47150E1A.3060502@sonic.net> So, you're saying you needed water more than a club ride ;-) CTWehn at cs.com wrote: > Ron, sounds like a great ride, sorry I missed it. Just as I was ready to leave and join you, I got a desperate call from my Vineyard manager saying that he had hit an underground water pipe up to the houses. So instead of going on a beautiful ride, I played in the mud. > Glad you're up and around again. Hope to see you all on the last Sunday. > > Charlie TR6,7,8 From tkamstra at sonic.net Tue Oct 16 16:29:15 2007 From: tkamstra at sonic.net (Tcherek Kamstra) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:29:15 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Brit car wanted In-Reply-To: <4714C77D.5050401@pacbell.net> References: <4713F1C7.7040205@pacbell.net> <47140458.3070601@sonic.net> <4714C77D.5050401@pacbell.net> Message-ID: Received this today, forwarding it on the off chance somebody may be able to help this fellow out..... Dear NOBBC, I want to get into British car motoring and join the Clovis British Car Club. I'm looking for a reasonably priced Aston-Martin driver. Do you know of anyone in your club who might have one for sale? Obie Silverwood (559) 787-2245 OBIESILVERWOOD at AOL.COM From lstokelyus at yahoo.com Tue Oct 16 18:27:34 2007 From: lstokelyus at yahoo.com (Linda Stokely) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] removal from email list Message-ID: <334245.23611.qm@web31815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Ron, Could you tell me how to get off the circulation list? When I signed up I thought I would just get emails about club events, but I am getting everyone's responses back and forth to each other and that is just too much for me. I'm trying to not have so much clutter in my Inbox. Kind regards, Linda 59 MGA ----- Original Message ---- From: Ron Engelhardt To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 12:15:03 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Saturday's Drive, swap meet We did stop in the Preserve but didn't stay long as there were no picnic facilities, we didn't have a reservation for the tour and the tour was two hours long. We went to Artesa next but there were no picnic facilities there either so, after enjoying the view, we went to the Farm deli and had a picnic. Ron 58 MGA gtwincams wrote: > Hi Ron, > Great to hear you are back in the saddle! I'm glad your first club drive > was such a beauty. Did you actually stop at the DiRosa Preserve, or > motor past? I'm doing some consulting for them - small world. Great idea > to go to Artesa - nice road up, and great views. We took a friend and > his friend from France up there last year. Sounds great - I'm glad the > races were fun, or I'd be really bumming now... > Regarding the swap meet idea, sounds good to me. > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Tue Oct 16 19:22:38 2007 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:22:38 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] removal from email list In-Reply-To: <334245.23611.qm@web31815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <334245.23611.qm@web31815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <471563DE.7030907@sonic.net> Hi Linda, if you follow the link at the end of the email, it will take you to the Nobbc page on autox.team.net. You will find an unsubscribe option there. Ron 58 MGA Linda Stokely wrote: > Hi Ron, > Could you tell me how to get off the circulation list? When I signed up I thought I would just get emails about club events, but I am getting everyone's responses back and forth to each other and that is just too much for me. I'm trying to not have so much clutter in my Inbox. > Kind regards, > Linda > 59 MGA m.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sand at frii.com Tue Oct 16 20:57:19 2007 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:57:19 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] brit cars wanted 4-sale Message-ID: <001401c81069$6f1fe1b0$6115e404@stevewbxu6x2qe> it,s not the aston martin but a very nice tr4-a it is the tr4a of duncan lehmann. it is the tr4a on cover of nobbc website- this tr4a took second place ribbon home from glenwood this year-(show) first 20,000 cash gets it- 1 of 28,683-(or close) ctc68563 (i.r.s.)- any spare parts wheels ect-incl. you come and get- hey here in colo. freeze all winter-roast all summer- need a coupe 20 grand-non negot. not a joke. steve. From sand at frii.com Sat Oct 20 06:01:01 2007 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 06:01:01 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] 79 m.g. midget for sale. Message-ID: <000601c81310$e2af1a70$ced5e104@stevewbxu6x2qe> brite yellow perfect shape-mint. ed is going to want top dollar. i should have photos soon from him. engine has large bore jugs and slugs-duel carbs- all smog stuff has been removed incl. cat converter- i dont know if that matters anymore if a guy was to bring a car into cali from out of state. car is in montrose co. more info. sand at frii.com From Cem2col at aol.com Mon Oct 22 13:39:00 2007 From: Cem2col at aol.com (Cem2col at aol.com) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:39:00 EDT Subject: [Nobbc] 79 m.g. midget for sale. Message-ID: Hello: With regard to California smog regulations on bringing a "79" M G into this state, the car should be exempt from Smog testing. You should also know that cars coming into California are taxed on the selling price shown on the bill of sale and it is called a Use Tax. A car that has spent all of its years in California would be taxed at a very low rate as it is considered as fully depreciated even though it might be fully restored. Old Cars Price shows a # 1 Midget at $10,000 (not usually driven on a daily basis, trailer Queens and museum cars) to a # 6 at $400.00 for a rust bucket. M G 8 convertibles at # 1 $14,000 to # 6 $530.00. I trust that this information may be helpful. Good luck. Cheers: Charles ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From techyes at pacbell.net Mon Oct 22 13:57:12 2007 From: techyes at pacbell.net (Sheryl) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Nobbc] 79 m.g. midget for sale. Message-ID: <728811.42772.qm@web83610.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I have two 1976 MGBs and they are both required to be smogged. I just checked the CA DMV and cars 1975 or older do not require a smog. A 1979 would have to pass the California smog test. "all smog stuff has been removed incl. cat converter-" Sheryl ----- Original Message ---- From: "Cem2col at aol.com" To: nobbc at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 12:39:00 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] 79 m.g. midget for sale. Hello: With regard to California smog regulations on bringing a "79" M G into this state, the car should be exempt from Smog testing. You should also know that cars coming into California are taxed on the selling price shown on the bill of sale and it is called a Use Tax. A car that has spent all of its years in California would be taxed at a very low rate as it is considered as fully depreciated even though it might be fully restored. Old Cars Price shows a # 1 Midget at $10,000 (not usually driven on a daily basis, trailer Queens and museum cars) to a # 6 at $400.00 for a rust bucket. M G 8 convertibles at # 1 $14,000 to # 6 $530.00. I trust that this information may be helpful. Good luck. Cheers: Charles ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From apexbrit at msn.com Mon Oct 22 15:20:58 2007 From: apexbrit at msn.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:20:58 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] 79 m.g. midget for sale. References: <728811.42772.qm@web83610.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: To be licensed in CA, an out of state car needs to be smogged. After-market cats are not too expensive; check with Gary at A1A Muffler on East Todd. Rail, pump and whatever else can be found used. Check with Shadetree Auto and British Parts Northwest. Cheers, Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: Sheryl To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] 79 m.g. midget for sale. I have two 1976 MGBs and they are both required to be smogged. I just checked the CA DMV and cars 1975 or older do not require a smog. A 1979 would have to pass the California smog test. "all smog stuff has been removed incl. cat converter-" Sheryl ----- Original Message ---- From: "Cem2col at aol.com" > To: nobbc at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 12:39:00 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] 79 m.g. midget for sale. Hello: With regard to California smog regulations on bringing a "79" M G into this state, the car should be exempt from Smog testing. You should also know that cars coming into California are taxed on the selling price shown on the bill of sale and it is called a Use Tax. A car that has spent all of its years in California would be taxed at a very low rate as it is considered as fully depreciated even though it might be fully restored. Old Cars Price shows a # 1 Midget at $10,000 (not usually driven on a daily basis, trailer Queens and museum cars) to a # 6 at $400.00 for a rust bucket. M G 8 convertibles at # 1 $14,000 to # 6 $530.00. I trust that this information may be helpful. Good luck. Cheers: Charles ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From tkamstra at sonic.net Wed Oct 24 09:51:38 2007 From: tkamstra at sonic.net (Tcherek Kamstra) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:51:38 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] 1974 Spitfire for sale In-Reply-To: <46533DBF.8000209@sonic.net> References: <46533DBF.8000209@sonic.net> Message-ID: This came in recently, via the club web site: 1974 Spitfire. 2nd owner. Bought in 1984 for $2650. Put over $17,000 into it since then; over $14,000 in parts alone. I love the car, but I have to let it go; my mother had a stroke late July & I'm all she's got. Chaos rules and money's getting sucked out of the bank like you wouldn't believe. I'm convinced it's every penny's worth of $8,000, but I'll sell for $6,000 because the time just isn't there to wait around. If you like Spitfires, you'd be hard pressed to find a better example for the price. The car is the last of the chrome bumpered Spitfires and is exempt from the California smog check. Give me a call at 510-235-7410 or e-mail me at cat_tail at comcast.net & I'll be glad to answer any questions you may have. My name's Rick. http://www.nobbc.com From nobbc at sonic.net Wed Oct 24 10:07:02 2007 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:07:02 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday ride suggestions Message-ID: <471F6DA6.2090603@sonic.net> Our next ride is this coming Sunday (10/28). Anyone have a destination or suggestion in mind? Ron 58 MGA From sand at frii.com Wed Oct 24 18:11:53 2007 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:11:53 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday ride suggestions References: <471F6DA6.2090603@sonic.net> Message-ID: <000401c8169b$a66f67c0$9d15e404@stevewbxu6x2qe> loveland colorado then onto blackhawk and centery city. bring rolls of nickels and quarters to feed the slots. fitzgerralds has free hot dogs and soft drinks near the nickel corrall so packing a lunch should not be nessary. hope to see you all in loveland. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: [Nobbc] Sunday ride suggestions > Our next ride is this coming Sunday (10/28). Anyone have a destination > or suggestion in mind? > > Ron > 58 MGA > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sand at frii.com Wed Oct 24 18:31:42 2007 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:31:42 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] death or rebirth of a tr-6? fort collins.here you go deano. Message-ID: <000f01c8169e$6aca3620$9d15e404@stevewbxu6x2qe> local elect.-and controlls contractor has aquired a tr-6.-tr-6 was donated to a charitabe opperation by a fort collins doctor- of course it went to auction- collins controll and electric of fort collins picked it up- the car is under reconstruction convershion to an electric power car- the way i have it is the trans will remain- the engine will be replaced w/an 150 h.p. motor (would assume d.c.) and batts. i have not yet seen the project-just learned of it today. understand the orig. tr-6 mill is on e-bay- i will try to get by there-hey will a tr-6 raidiator bolt into a tr4a?- it should.dont see why they should need it unless to cool down wiring- do you think they will reroute lucas or just string there own? my question, did they kill a tr6? how many gallions of gas does a generator burn to charge the batterys for a 100 mile drive? From sand at frii.com Wed Oct 24 18:47:35 2007 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:47:35 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] spit 4-sale-help this guy- Message-ID: <001b01c816a0$a2ea4660$9d15e404@stevewbxu6x2qe> if someone wants a spit please help this guy- i went through the stoke thing w/my dad. hey somebody,buy this car if you can. my tr4-a as you all know was my dad,s car. it sat for 17 years as a basket case untill my dad gave it to me to rebuild. this guy i would bet would love to hold onto this car if he could-if someone in nobbc wants to loan me what he want,s-look at the car to see if it,s solid,i will swing something- my girls at the bank understand the value of these cars,hey folks-somebody check out this spitfire for me steve- i can get the $$$ i have walked in this mans shoes. From lovelarge at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 18:47:32 2007 From: lovelarge at gmail.com (Charles English) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:47:32 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] death or rebirth of a tr-6? fort collins.here you go deano. In-Reply-To: <000f01c8169e$6aca3620$9d15e404@stevewbxu6x2qe> References: <000f01c8169e$6aca3620$9d15e404@stevewbxu6x2qe> Message-ID: <6fd901ba0710241747o5c738ff2q89752b186acd8e7c@mail.gmail.com> Hi Steve, Thanks for reporting about the Electric TR-6. I am considering converting my 58 MGA to electric one day. For now I am working on a supplemental hydrogen generator to mix with gas in the ICE. Once complete, I will invite the group to my garage to check it out. There have been many great British cars converted to electric and I have heard great things from their owners. And as battery technology improves, things will only get better. To answer your question about the gallons of gasoline it takes to create the power to charge the vehicle for 100 miles of driving... Most electric car conversions get about 50 miles per charge and cost about $1 for a full charge. So that is about $2 for 100 miles of driving. Here in Nor Cal we are lucky to get much of our electricity from Hydro, Geo thermal, and other renewable sources, so it wont consume much gas to charge the vehicle. PG&E now offers a program to offset all the carbon from the energy you use in the home, for just a few more bucks a month. For more details about electric vehicles in and around Santa Rosa check out ... www.nbeaa.org Note, the last vehicle is an MGA converted in 1973. Peace, Charles English 58' MGA On 10/24/07, Steve Lehmann wrote: > > local elect.-and controlls contractor has aquired a tr-6.-tr-6 was donated > to > a charitabe opperation by a fort collins doctor- > of course it went to auction- > collins controll and electric of fort collins picked it up- > the car is under reconstruction convershion to an electric power car- > the way i have it is the trans will remain- > the engine will be replaced w/an 150 h.p. motor (would assume d.c.) and > batts. > i have not yet seen the project-just learned of it today. > understand the orig. tr-6 mill is on e-bay- > i will try to get by there-hey will a tr-6 raidiator bolt into a tr4a?- > it should.dont see why they should need it unless to cool down wiring- > do you think they will reroute lucas or just string there own? > my question, did they kill a tr6? > how many gallions of gas does a generator burn to charge the batterys for > a > 100 mile drive? > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sand at frii.com Wed Oct 24 19:09:04 2007 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:09:04 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] hey charles-carbon offset? References: <000f01c8169e$6aca3620$9d15e404@stevewbxu6x2qe> <6fd901ba0710241747o5c738ff2q89752b186acd8e7c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002e01c816a3$a31b8830$9d15e404@stevewbxu6x2qe> im gonna just have to get to cali soon somehow- what is a p.g.e. carbon offset?-you say pay p.g.e. a few bucks a month for this offset-i dont live there anymore,so i am curious as what your telling me-please bestow wisdom-thanks! b.t.w. i need to go tune raido to rockies world series game!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles English" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] death or rebirth of a tr-6? fort collins.here you go deano. > Hi Steve, > > Thanks for reporting about the Electric TR-6. I am considering > converting my 58 MGA to electric one day. For now I am working on a > supplemental hydrogen generator to mix with gas in the ICE. Once > complete, > I will invite the group to my garage to check it out. There have been > many > great British cars converted to electric and I have heard great things > from > their owners. And as battery technology improves, things will only get > better. > To answer your question about the gallons of gasoline it takes to > create the power to charge the vehicle for 100 miles of driving... Most > electric car conversions get about 50 miles per charge and cost about $1 > for > a full charge. So that is about $2 for 100 miles of driving. Here in Nor > Cal we are lucky to get much of our electricity from Hydro, Geo thermal, > and > other renewable sources, so it wont consume much gas to charge the > vehicle. > PG&E now offers a program to offset all the carbon from the energy you use > in the home, for just a few more bucks a month. > > For more details about electric vehicles in and around Santa Rosa check > out > ... www.nbeaa.org > > Note, the last vehicle is an MGA converted in 1973. > > Peace, > Charles English > 58' MGA > > On 10/24/07, Steve Lehmann wrote: >> >> local elect.-and controlls contractor has aquired a tr-6.-tr-6 was >> donated >> to >> a charitabe opperation by a fort collins doctor- >> of course it went to auction- >> collins controll and electric of fort collins picked it up- >> the car is under reconstruction convershion to an electric power car- >> the way i have it is the trans will remain- >> the engine will be replaced w/an 150 h.p. motor (would assume d.c.) and >> batts. >> i have not yet seen the project-just learned of it today. >> understand the orig. tr-6 mill is on e-bay- >> i will try to get by there-hey will a tr-6 raidiator bolt into a tr4a?- >> it should.dont see why they should need it unless to cool down wiring- >> do you think they will reroute lucas or just string there own? >> my question, did they kill a tr6? >> how many gallions of gas does a generator burn to charge the batterys for >> a >> 100 mile drive? >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Wed Oct 24 19:42:41 2007 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:42:41 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] death or rebirth of a tr-6? fort collins.here you go deano. In-Reply-To: <6fd901ba0710241747o5c738ff2q89752b186acd8e7c@mail.gmail.com> References: <000f01c8169e$6aca3620$9d15e404@stevewbxu6x2qe> <6fd901ba0710241747o5c738ff2q89752b186acd8e7c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <471FF491.6040801@sonic.net> Interesting site. I wonder if they would like to do a joint ride someday. Ron 58 MGA Charles English wrote: > Hi Steve, > > Thanks for reporting about the Electric TR-6. I am considering > converting my 58 MGA to electric one day. For now I am working on a > supplemental hydrogen generator to mix with gas in the ICE. Once complete, > I will invite the group to my garage to check it out. There have been many > great British cars converted to electric and I have heard great things from > their owners. And as battery technology improves, things will only get > better. > To answer your question about the gallons of gasoline it takes to > create the power to charge the vehicle for 100 miles of driving... Most > electric car conversions get about 50 miles per charge and cost about $1 for > a full charge. So that is about $2 for 100 miles of driving. Here in Nor > Cal we are lucky to get much of our electricity from Hydro, Geo thermal, and > other renewable sources, so it wont consume much gas to charge the vehicle. > PG&E now offers a program to offset all the carbon from the energy you use > in the home, for just a few more bucks a month. > > For more details about electric vehicles in and around Santa Rosa check out > ... www.nbeaa.org > > Note, the last vehicle is an MGA converted in 1973. > > Peace, > Charles English > 58' MGA > > On 10/24/07, Steve Lehmann wrote: > >>local elect.-and controlls contractor has aquired a tr-6.-tr-6 was donated >>to >>a charitabe opperation by a fort collins doctor- >>of course it went to auction- >>collins controll and electric of fort collins picked it up- >>the car is under reconstruction convershion to an electric power car- >>the way i have it is the trans will remain- >>the engine will be replaced w/an 150 h.p. motor (would assume d.c.) and >>batts. >>i have not yet seen the project-just learned of it today. >>understand the orig. tr-6 mill is on e-bay- >>i will try to get by there-hey will a tr-6 raidiator bolt into a tr4a?- >>it should.dont see why they should need it unless to cool down wiring- >>do you think they will reroute lucas or just string there own? >>my question, did they kill a tr6? >>how many gallions of gas does a generator burn to charge the batterys for >>a >>100 mile drive? >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc mailing list >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From apexbrit at msn.com Fri Oct 26 11:47:44 2007 From: apexbrit at msn.com (Robin Jackson) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:47:44 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] death or rebirth of a tr-6? fort collins.here you go deano. References: <000f01c8169e$6aca3620$9d15e404@stevewbxu6x2qe><6fd901ba0710241747o5c738ff2q89752b186acd8e7c@mail.gmail.com> <471FF491.6040801@sonic.net> Message-ID: Here is a site with some basic info on the subject: http://www.autobloggreen.com/2006/06/14/electric-vehicles-in-depth-part-i-the -history-of-evs/3 I have a series 3 Sunbeam I may convert when the Jaguar is thundering down the road. Cheers, Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Engelhardt To: North Bay British Car Club Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] death or rebirth of a tr-6? fort collins.here you go deano. Interesting site. I wonder if they would like to do a joint ride someday. Ron 58 MGA Charles English wrote: > Hi Steve, > > Thanks for reporting about the Electric TR-6. I am considering > converting my 58 MGA to electric one day. For now I am working on a > supplemental hydrogen generator to mix with gas in the ICE. Once complete, > I will invite the group to my garage to check it out. There have been many > great British cars converted to electric and I have heard great things from > their owners. And as battery technology improves, things will only get > better. > To answer your question about the gallons of gasoline it takes to > create the power to charge the vehicle for 100 miles of driving... Most > electric car conversions get about 50 miles per charge and cost about $1 for > a full charge. So that is about $2 for 100 miles of driving. Here in Nor > Cal we are lucky to get much of our electricity from Hydro, Geo thermal, and > other renewable sources, so it wont consume much gas to charge the vehicle. > PG&E now offers a program to offset all the carbon from the energy you use > in the home, for just a few more bucks a month. > > For more details about electric vehicles in and around Santa Rosa check out > ... www.nbeaa.org > > Note, the last vehicle is an MGA converted in 1973. > > Peace, > Charles English > 58' MGA > > On 10/24/07, Steve Lehmann > wrote: > >>local elect.-and controlls contractor has aquired a tr-6.-tr-6 was donated >>to >>a charitabe opperation by a fort collins doctor- >>of course it went to auction- >>collins controll and electric of fort collins picked it up- >>the car is under reconstruction convershion to an electric power car- >>the way i have it is the trans will remain- >>the engine will be replaced w/an 150 h.p. motor (would assume d.c.) and >>batts. >>i have not yet seen the project-just learned of it today. >>understand the orig. tr-6 mill is on e-bay- >>i will try to get by there-hey will a tr-6 raidiator bolt into a tr4a?- >>it should.dont see why they should need it unless to cool down wiring- >>do you think they will reroute lucas or just string there own? >>my question, did they kill a tr6? >>how many gallions of gas does a generator burn to charge the batterys for >>a >>100 mile drive? >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc mailing list >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Fri Oct 26 19:43:04 2007 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:43:04 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc Reminder Message-ID: <472297A8.5070708@sonic.net> Our last October ride is scheduled for this coming Sunday 10/28 at 10AM. We'll meet at the usual spot west of 101 on River Rd. (PG&E Substation). Nothing has been suggested or planned so the group attending will decide on a route. Our winter schedule will start next month with a ride on 11/10 starting at noon. While we will schedule only one ride a month for the cold season, unscheduled rides and events are always welcome. Ron 58 MGA From sand at frii.com Sat Oct 27 07:34:36 2007 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:34:36 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] new years day nobbc ride? Message-ID: <000601c8189e$1e88f290$42d7e104@stevewbxu6x2qe> never to soon to start planning. will there be a new years day ride? perhaps a petaluma starting point? just wondering... From andypreston at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 29 16:13:02 2007 From: andypreston at sbcglobal.net (Andy Preston) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:13:02 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc Reminder In-Reply-To: <472297A8.5070708@sonic.net> Message-ID: <20071030001204.73D251879C8@autox.team.net> Ron, I spoke to Dean at the last but one ride and several others in the past about the time of the winter rides. Everyone agreed that noon is such an awkward time. You've got to have an early lunch before the ride or a late lunch after the ride. What is the reason for the time change? Can you take a poll of the regular riders and see what they think. Many thanks Andy -----Original Message----- From: Ron Engelhardt [mailto:nobbc at sonic.net] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:43 PM Cc: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: Nobbc Reminder Our last October ride is scheduled for this coming Sunday 10/28 at 10AM. We'll meet at the usual spot west of 101 on River Rd. (PG&E Substation). Nothing has been suggested or planned so the group attending will decide on a route. Our winter schedule will start next month with a ride on 11/10 starting at noon. While we will schedule only one ride a month for the cold season, unscheduled rides and events are always welcome. Ron 58 MGA From FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET Mon Oct 29 16:56:14 2007 From: FAWN220 at COMCAST.NET (JOHN KENNER) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:56:14 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc Reminder In-Reply-To: <20071030001204.73D251879C8@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <20071030005529.698CD187A11@autox.team.net> I AGREE THAT NOON IS AWKWARD ALSO, IT'S NICE TO HAVE LUNCH TOGETHER JOHN KENNER -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andy Preston Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 4:13 PM To: nobbc at sonic.net Cc: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Nobbc Reminder Ron, I spoke to Dean at the last but one ride and several others in the past about the time of the winter rides. Everyone agreed that noon is such an awkward time. You've got to have an early lunch before the ride or a late lunch after the ride. What is the reason for the time change? Can you take a poll of the regular riders and see what they think. Many thanks Andy -----Original Message----- From: Ron Engelhardt [mailto:nobbc at sonic.net] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:43 PM Cc: nobbc at autox.team.net Subject: Nobbc Reminder Our last October ride is scheduled for this coming Sunday 10/28 at 10AM. We'll meet at the usual spot west of 101 on River Rd. (PG&E Substation). Nothing has been suggested or planned so the group attending will decide on a route. Our winter schedule will start next month with a ride on 11/10 starting at noon. While we will schedule only one ride a month for the cold season, unscheduled rides and events are always welcome. Ron 58 MGA _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From hardt at sonic.net Mon Oct 29 21:37:47 2007 From: hardt at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:37:47 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc Reminder In-Reply-To: <200710292313.l9TND1Kp019825@h.mx.sonic.net> References: <200710292313.l9TND1Kp019825@h.mx.sonic.net> Message-ID: <4726B51B.4020202@sonic.net> Well the reason was that it takes longer for the day to warm up in the winter months and no one wanted to ride in the cold. Usually, by noon, the fog has lifted and the day has warmed to a reasonable temperature. We always used to start at 10 AM year round, got to the point where no one was showing up for the rides so we changed to noon and had good turnouts. Maybe instead of stopping for lunch, we could stop for a snack and brew ;-) I remember one winter ride to Willets to meet the NCBCC, must have been in the low 30's when we started at 9:00 and in the 60's when we returned in the afternoon. That was one cold, foggy freeway ride. Anybody else want to weigh in? Let's see what the concensus is and decide. Ron 58 MGA Andy Preston wrote: > Ron, I spoke to Dean at the last but one ride and several others in the past > about the time of the winter rides. Everyone agreed that noon is such an > awkward time. You've got to have an early lunch before the ride or a late > lunch after the ride. What is the reason for the time change? Can you take > a poll of the regular riders and see what they think. > > Many thanks Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Engelhardt [mailto:nobbc at sonic.net] > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:43 PM > Cc: nobbc at autox.team.net > Subject: Nobbc Reminder > > Our last October ride is scheduled for this coming Sunday 10/28 at 10AM. > We'll meet at the usual spot west of 101 on River Rd. (PG&E Substation). > Nothing has been suggested or planned so the group attending will > decide on a route. > > Our winter schedule will start next month with a ride on 11/10 > starting at noon. While we will schedule only one ride a month for the > cold season, unscheduled rides and events are always welcome. > > Ron > 58 MGA From gtwincams at pacbell.net Tue Oct 30 06:55:49 2007 From: gtwincams at pacbell.net (gtwincams) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:55:49 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc Reminder In-Reply-To: <4726B51B.4020202@sonic.net> References: <200710292313.l9TND1Kp019825@h.mx.sonic.net> <4726B51B.4020202@sonic.net> Message-ID: <472737E5.5070204@pacbell.net> Hello NOBBCers, I can understand the logic of both time schedules, and Trish and I prefer an earlier start time, even if it is at 1030. I agree with Ron that 0900 is very early for the winter. Since we have a functioning top and heater in one car, we can bundle up for an earlier drive, which allows us all to have lunch together on the drive, and gets us home earlier so there is still a good period of daylight remaining for other activities (family, domestic, other). Regarding Ron's idea of stopping for a mid-afternoon snack or meal - that may throw off schedules for some people, so may lack appeal to them. The main limiting factor for us is rain or wet roads - I don't want to have a lot of clean up to do after a drive, and don't want to put the car away wet in the garage. How was the drive on Sunday? Cheers, Greg Tatarian From nobbc at sonic.net Tue Oct 30 09:15:21 2007 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:15:21 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc Reminder In-Reply-To: <472737E5.5070204@pacbell.net> References: <200710292313.l9TND1Kp019825@h.mx.sonic.net> <4726B51B.4020202@sonic.net> <472737E5.5070204@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <47275899.2020502@sonic.net> We had a great ride Sunday. We went out Chalk Hill Rd. to Alexander Valley Rd. then up to Geyserville to the Deli. Turned out there was a fall color event there featuring a car show so we stopped for a while to take it in. Highlight of the show for us was a beautiful 1937 MG VA saloon. There was also an Austin Healey and a Cobra. The rest were all american including a great GTO "The Judge". We then went to Mill Creek Winery on Westside Rd. for a picnic. It was chilly at the start but quite warm by lunch time (1 PM), a perfect day! Regarding Greg's comment about wet roads and rain, rides have always been cancelled or postponed in wet weather for the very reasons Greg put forward. The only times my car has ever gotten wet on a club ride were from surprise showers and the lesson was learned not to go when the weather threatens. Perhaps we can put the winter start time back to 11AM and plan a lunch around 12:30-1:00? I still prefer the later start and always ate an early lunch before the meeting. Nov. 10th is our ride date so we should come to some kind of concensus before then. The 10AM start just never worked for us in the past during the winter months. Too cold, too foggy, damp roads, lousy turnouts, etc. Ron 58 MGA gtwincams wrote: > Hello NOBBCers, > I can understand the logic of both time schedules, and Trish and I > prefer an earlier start time, even if it is at 1030. I agree with Ron > that 0900 is very early for the winter. Since we have a functioning top > and heater in one car, we can bundle up for an earlier drive, which > allows us all to have lunch together on the drive, and gets us home > earlier so there is still a good period of daylight remaining for other > activities (family, domestic, other). Regarding Ron's idea of stopping > for a mid-afternoon snack or meal - that may throw off schedules for > some people, so may lack appeal to them. > The main limiting factor for us is rain or wet roads - I don't want to > have a lot of clean up to do after a drive, and don't want to put the > car away wet in the garage. > How was the drive on Sunday? > Cheers, > Greg Tatarian > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sand at frii.com Tue Oct 30 20:53:14 2007 From: sand at frii.com (Steve Lehmann) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:53:14 -0600 Subject: [Nobbc] elect tr project-and winter time mtg. Message-ID: <001f01c81b71$90b2f200$e415e404@stevewbxu6x2qe> last report on elect tr project was that it was a tr-6- turns out it is a gt-6 some info. can be found at www.collins-control.com did get some good questions and info from those that came back direct w/replys. sand at frii.com now for winter sced- NOONTIME WHAT!!! the day ends by 11:00 a.m. ron, gonna vote in w/others that noontime is a scrubbed launch.(or lunch) guys you need to erect a indoor mtg spot-coffee shop-something like that- if weater is non conducive to brit car travel then you can all still hook up over a hot coffee. just a thought. what ever happened to the rose on armory as a mtg. place-(behind j.c.) they were begging for nobbc there... i do belive that,s where i (or we) hooked up w/bill o,hara. but yes 12:00 is just to late in the day-or is that afternoon?????????? From CTWehn at cs.com Wed Oct 31 18:01:02 2007 From: CTWehn at cs.com (CTWehn at cs.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:01:02 -0400 Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc Reminder Message-ID: <3BD62C89.3047763F.000435C1@cs.com> I agree with Ron. The 12 noon start in the winter suits me just fine. I can sleep in alittle bit, and I don't have to rush around washing the car and getting gas and checking the oil and making a lunch. And the fog has lifted enough to where I can leave the top down. Just my 2 cents. Charlie Ron Engelhardt wrote: >We had a great ride Sunday. We went out Chalk Hill Rd. to Alexander >Valley Rd. then up to Geyserville to the Deli. Turned out there was a >fall color event there featuring a car show so we stopped for a while to >take it in. Highlight of the show for us was a beautiful 1937 MG VA >saloon. There was also an Austin Healey and a Cobra. The rest were all >american including a great GTO "The Judge". We then went to Mill Creek >Winery on Westside Rd. for a picnic. It was chilly at the start but >quite warm by lunch time (1 PM), a perfect day! > >Regarding Greg's comment about wet roads and rain, rides have always >been cancelled or postponed in wet weather for the very reasons Greg put >forward. The only times my car has ever gotten wet on a club ride were >from surprise showers and the lesson was learned not to go when the >weather threatens. > >Perhaps we can put the winter start time back to 11AM and plan a lunch >around 12:30-1:00? I still prefer the later start and always ate an >early lunch before the meeting. Nov. 10th is our ride date so we should >come to some kind of concensus before then. The 10AM start just never >worked for us in the past during the winter months. Too cold, too foggy, >damp roads, lousy turnouts, etc. > >Ron >58 MGA > >gtwincams wrote: >> Hello NOBBCers, >> I can understand the logic of both time schedules, and Trish and I >> prefer an earlier start time, even if it is at 1030. I agree with Ron >> that 0900 is very early for the winter. Since we have a functioning top >> and heater in one car, we can bundle up for an earlier drive, which >> allows us all to have lunch together on the drive, and gets us home >> earlier so there is still a good period of daylight remaining for other >> activities (family, domestic, other). Regarding Ron's idea of stopping >> for a mid-afternoon snack or meal - that may throw off schedules for >> some people, so may lack appeal to them. >> The main limiting factor for us is rain or wet roads - I don't want to >> have a lot of clean up to do after a drive, and don't want to put the >> car away wet in the garage. >> How was the drive on Sunday? >> Cheers, >> Greg Tatarian >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >_______________________________________________ >Nobbc mailing list >Nobbc at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From nobbc at sonic.net Wed Oct 31 18:39:52 2007 From: nobbc at sonic.net (Ron Engelhardt) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:39:52 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc Reminder In-Reply-To: <3BD62C89.3047763F.000435C1@cs.com> References: <3BD62C89.3047763F.000435C1@cs.com> Message-ID: <47292E68.3030206@sonic.net> Great minds think alike Charlie! Let's hear from some more of members and then decide. Ron 58 MGA CTWehn at cs.com wrote: > I agree with Ron. > The 12 noon start in the winter suits me just fine. I can sleep in alittle bit, and I don't have to rush around washing the car and getting gas and checking the oil and making a lunch. And the fog has lifted enough to where I can leave the top down. > Just my 2 cents. > > Charlie > > Ron Engelhardt wrote: > > >>We had a great ride Sunday. We went out Chalk Hill Rd. to Alexander >>Valley Rd. then up to Geyserville to the Deli. Turned out there was a >>fall color event there featuring a car show so we stopped for a while to >>take it in. Highlight of the show for us was a beautiful 1937 MG VA >>saloon. There was also an Austin Healey and a Cobra. The rest were all >>american including a great GTO "The Judge". We then went to Mill Creek >>Winery on Westside Rd. for a picnic. It was chilly at the start but >>quite warm by lunch time (1 PM), a perfect day! >> >>Regarding Greg's comment about wet roads and rain, rides have always >>been cancelled or postponed in wet weather for the very reasons Greg put >>forward. The only times my car has ever gotten wet on a club ride were > >>from surprise showers and the lesson was learned not to go when the > >>weather threatens. >> >>Perhaps we can put the winter start time back to 11AM and plan a lunch >>around 12:30-1:00? I still prefer the later start and always ate an >>early lunch before the meeting. Nov. 10th is our ride date so we should >>come to some kind of concensus before then. The 10AM start just never >>worked for us in the past during the winter months. Too cold, too foggy, >>damp roads, lousy turnouts, etc. >> >>Ron >>58 MGA >> >>gtwincams wrote: >> >>>Hello NOBBCers, >>>I can understand the logic of both time schedules, and Trish and I >>>prefer an earlier start time, even if it is at 1030. I agree with Ron >>>that 0900 is very early for the winter. Since we have a functioning top >>>and heater in one car, we can bundle up for an earlier drive, which >>>allows us all to have lunch together on the drive, and gets us home >>>earlier so there is still a good period of daylight remaining for other >>>activities (family, domestic, other). Regarding Ron's idea of stopping >>>for a mid-afternoon snack or meal - that may throw off schedules for >>>some people, so may lack appeal to them. >>>The main limiting factor for us is rain or wet roads - I don't want to >>>have a lot of clean up to do after a drive, and don't want to put the >>>car away wet in the garage. >>>How was the drive on Sunday? >>>Cheers, >>>Greg Tatarian >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Nobbc mailing list >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc mailing list >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc From sdivad at comcast.net Wed Oct 31 18:52:06 2007 From: sdivad at comcast.net (David Stanfield) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:52:06 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc Reminder In-Reply-To: <47292E68.3030206@sonic.net> Message-ID: <001801c81c29$cf7f9160$6600a8c0@davesoffice2> On the Saturday rides I have a flying club meeting at 4:30 in Petaluma and the late start time might be a problem for me. Not a problem on the Sunday rides. Dave -----Original Message----- From: nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Engelhardt Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:40 PM To: North Bay British Car Club Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Nobbc Reminder Great minds think alike Charlie! Let's hear from some more of members and then decide. Ron 58 MGA CTWehn at cs.com wrote: > I agree with Ron. > The 12 noon start in the winter suits me just fine. I can sleep in alittle bit, and I don't have to rush around washing the car and getting gas and checking the oil and making a lunch. And the fog has lifted enough to where I can leave the top down. > Just my 2 cents. > > Charlie > > Ron Engelhardt wrote: > > >>We had a great ride Sunday. We went out Chalk Hill Rd. to Alexander >>Valley Rd. then up to Geyserville to the Deli. Turned out there was a >>fall color event there featuring a car show so we stopped for a while to >>take it in. Highlight of the show for us was a beautiful 1937 MG VA >>saloon. There was also an Austin Healey and a Cobra. The rest were all >>american including a great GTO "The Judge". We then went to Mill Creek >>Winery on Westside Rd. for a picnic. It was chilly at the start but >>quite warm by lunch time (1 PM), a perfect day! >> >>Regarding Greg's comment about wet roads and rain, rides have always >>been cancelled or postponed in wet weather for the very reasons Greg put >>forward. The only times my car has ever gotten wet on a club ride were > >>from surprise showers and the lesson was learned not to go when the > >>weather threatens. >> >>Perhaps we can put the winter start time back to 11AM and plan a lunch >>around 12:30-1:00? I still prefer the later start and always ate an >>early lunch before the meeting. Nov. 10th is our ride date so we should >>come to some kind of concensus before then. The 10AM start just never >>worked for us in the past during the winter months. Too cold, too foggy, >>damp roads, lousy turnouts, etc. >> >>Ron >>58 MGA >> >>gtwincams wrote: >> >>>Hello NOBBCers, >>>I can understand the logic of both time schedules, and Trish and I >>>prefer an earlier start time, even if it is at 1030. I agree with Ron >>>that 0900 is very early for the winter. Since we have a functioning top >>>and heater in one car, we can bundle up for an earlier drive, which >>>allows us all to have lunch together on the drive, and gets us home >>>earlier so there is still a good period of daylight remaining for other >>>activities (family, domestic, other). Regarding Ron's idea of stopping >>>for a mid-afternoon snack or meal - that may throw off schedules for >>>some people, so may lack appeal to them. >>>The main limiting factor for us is rain or wet roads - I don't want to >>>have a lot of clean up to do after a drive, and don't want to put the >>>car away wet in the garage. >>>How was the drive on Sunday? >>>Cheers, >>>Greg Tatarian >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Nobbc mailing list >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Nobbc mailing list >>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc _______________________________________________ Nobbc mailing list Nobbc at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.16/1102 - Release Date: 10/31/2007 4:38 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.16/1102 - Release Date: 10/31/2007 4:38 PM From riprock99 at comcast.net Wed Oct 31 20:04:12 2007 From: riprock99 at comcast.net (Scott Irwin) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:04:12 -0700 Subject: [Nobbc] Nobbc Reminder References: <3BD62C89.3047763F.000435C1@cs.com> <47292E68.3030206@sonic.net> Message-ID: <000b01c81c33$e1b626a0$0400a8c0@budda> Well, if I can ever have a life again, coming from Marin makes a later start easier for me. Even if I dropped off the face of the earth these past few months, I still want to ride when I can. Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Engelhardt" To: "North Bay British Car Club" Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Nobbc Reminder > Great minds think alike Charlie! Let's hear from some more of members > and then decide. > > Ron > 58 MGA > > CTWehn at cs.com wrote: >> I agree with Ron. >> The 12 noon start in the winter suits me just fine. I can sleep in >> alittle bit, and I don't have to rush around washing the car and getting >> gas and checking the oil and making a lunch. And the fog has lifted >> enough to where I can leave the top down. >> Just my 2 cents. >> >> Charlie >> >> Ron Engelhardt wrote: >> >> >>>We had a great ride Sunday. We went out Chalk Hill Rd. to Alexander >>>Valley Rd. then up to Geyserville to the Deli. Turned out there was a >>>fall color event there featuring a car show so we stopped for a while to >>>take it in. Highlight of the show for us was a beautiful 1937 MG VA >>>saloon. There was also an Austin Healey and a Cobra. The rest were all >>>american including a great GTO "The Judge". We then went to Mill Creek >>>Winery on Westside Rd. for a picnic. It was chilly at the start but >>>quite warm by lunch time (1 PM), a perfect day! >>> >>>Regarding Greg's comment about wet roads and rain, rides have always >>>been cancelled or postponed in wet weather for the very reasons Greg put >>>forward. The only times my car has ever gotten wet on a club ride were >> >>>from surprise showers and the lesson was learned not to go when the >> >>>weather threatens. >>> >>>Perhaps we can put the winter start time back to 11AM and plan a lunch >>>around 12:30-1:00? I still prefer the later start and always ate an >>>early lunch before the meeting. Nov. 10th is our ride date so we should >>>come to some kind of concensus before then. The 10AM start just never >>>worked for us in the past during the winter months. Too cold, too foggy, >>>damp roads, lousy turnouts, etc. >>> >>>Ron >>>58 MGA >>> >>>gtwincams wrote: >>> >>>>Hello NOBBCers, >>>>I can understand the logic of both time schedules, and Trish and I >>>>prefer an earlier start time, even if it is at 1030. I agree with Ron >>>>that 0900 is very early for the winter. Since we have a functioning top >>>>and heater in one car, we can bundle up for an earlier drive, which >>>>allows us all to have lunch together on the drive, and gets us home >>>>earlier so there is still a good period of daylight remaining for other >>>>activities (family, domestic, other). Regarding Ron's idea of stopping >>>>for a mid-afternoon snack or meal - that may throw off schedules for >>>>some people, so may lack appeal to them. >>>>The main limiting factor for us is rain or wet roads - I don't want to >>>>have a lot of clean up to do after a drive, and don't want to put the >>>>car away wet in the garage. >>>>How was the drive on Sunday? >>>>Cheers, >>>>Greg Tatarian >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Nobbc mailing list >>>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Nobbc mailing list >>>Nobbc at autox.team.net >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nobbc mailing list >> Nobbc at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc > _______________________________________________ > Nobbc mailing list > Nobbc at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/nobbc