From mmarr at notwires.com Thu Mar 1 08:40:27 2012 From: mmarr at notwires.com (Michael Marr) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 09:40:27 -0600 Subject: [Morris] Throwout bearings redux In-Reply-To: <64580398-A28B-4C32-A840-B706CE14BADF@gerardsgarage.com> References: <4F4E2A1E.2070602@kwwilliams.com> <64580398-A28B-4C32-A840-B706CE14BADF@gerardsgarage.com> Message-ID: I am still lurking but don't have much to contribute since I haven't owned a Morris since 1972. I have half an eye open for a Minor, however. Mike -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gerard" Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 12:36 AM To: "Kevin Wayne Williams" Cc: "Morris Motors" ; "Morris" Subject: Re: [Morris] Throwout bearings redux > Not sure there are any active members on the autoX Morris list anymore. > > See my web page. > > http://gerardsgarage.com/Garage/Tech/TO_Bearings/tobearings.htm > > Gerard > > On Feb 29, 2012, at 5:37 AM, Kevin Wayne Williams wrote: > >> Well, my new, roll-pin free 1275 throwout bearing arrived, and it's at >> least a 1/4" taller than my other 1275 throwout bearings. Obviously, one >> or more of these bearings is not a 1275 throwout bearing. >> >> Does anyone know the exact measurement points to distinguish 1098 from >> 1275 bearings? I know 1275s are taller, but for all I know this bearing >> is from a Yugo or something, so I don't want to just blindly install the >> tallest of the set. >> >> KWW >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Morris at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/morris/pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com > _______________________________________________ > > Morris at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/morris/mmarr at notwires.com From monster at caverock.net.nz Thu Mar 1 22:59:40 2012 From: monster at caverock.net.nz (monster at caverock.net.nz) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 18:59:40 +1300 Subject: [Morris] Throwout bearings redux In-Reply-To: References: <4F4E2A1E.2070602@kwwilliams.com> <64580398-A28B-4C32-A840-B706CE14BADF@gerardsgarage.com> Message-ID: <57e4ece4519e8ba7a838e7bbc4907feb@snap.net.nz> Still lurking here. Still have 3 Morrises, still recommissioning my '57 Oxford but that would require actually doing stuff on it. regards, -- Robert (Monster) Greenfield On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 09:40:27 -0600, "Michael Marr" wrote: > I am still lurking but don't have much to contribute since I haven't owned > a > Morris since 1972. I have half an eye open for a Minor, however. > > Mike > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Gerard" > >> Not sure there are any active members on the autoX Morris list anymore. >> >> See my web page. >> >> http://gerardsgarage.com/Garage/Tech/TO_Bearings/tobearings.htm From monster at caverock.net.nz Sat Mar 3 02:11:43 2012 From: monster at caverock.net.nz (monster at caverock.net.nz) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 22:11:43 +1300 Subject: [Morris] Throwout bearings redux In-Reply-To: <17DF3E68EB5D49569C6FE06ACEF9AC34@lancepc> References: <4F4E2A1E.2070602@kwwilliams.com><64580398-A28B-4C32-A840-B706CE14BADF@gerardsgarage.com> <57e4ece4519e8ba7a838e7bbc4907feb@snap.net.nz> <17DF3E68EB5D49569C6FE06ACEF9AC34@lancepc> Message-ID: <6ba66dba2a81e4fa0ede5f49bb7207d4@snap.net.nz> On Sat, 3 Mar 2012 07:30:39 +1100, "Lance" wrote: > Yeah, it has been very quiet hasn't it. I guess many people have moved away from mailing lists and usenet to phpBB forums. The other day I found some printouts of messages from this list from 1996 - quite a while ago in computing terms! > I read all that comes through but since I've sold both my Minors I've > taken > to building a Teardrop campervan to tow behind the next one. > Alas, I've built it too heavy, and I think I'll have to rethink designs if > I'm gonna hook it to a Morry. > Ohh well, it's fun anyway. What about a bigger engined Morris? My Isis is great for towing :-) regards, -- Robert From monster at caverock.net.nz Sat Mar 3 02:25:59 2012 From: monster at caverock.net.nz (monster at caverock.net.nz) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 22:25:59 +1300 Subject: [Morris] Throwout bearings redux In-Reply-To: <1330711548.41167.YahooMailClassic@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1330711548.41167.YahooMailClassic@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I agree that there are not many Morris forums around the web, and the ones that are there are often for one model only. Possibly this is the same for most actual car clubs. I am a member of the Morris Owners' Club (South Island) here in NZ, and it is for any Morris ever built, including commercials, trucks, vans, from 1913 to 1984. I like the inclusiveness of this club. http://www.mocsi.org.nz/ I've been hanging out on the Wolseley forum. They are friendly and accomodating and I've been thinking about how nice it would be to have a Morris equivalent of this forum; somewhere that would cater for *all* morris vehicles. http://www.wolseleyforum.com/ I've looked at the MMOC forum but it (or some members at least) seem highly disparaging towards any other model of Morris except Minors, which I thought was a pity. regards, -- Robert On Fri, 2 Mar 2012 10:05:48 -0800 (PST), wrote: > B > I wish there were more active Morris groups. > If your looking for an active group. > There is some people from your country > And a couple of other owners of Oxfords. > Besides the MMOC we are the only active group on the internet is > morris_motors on yahoo.. > B > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/morris_motors/ > B > Unless you know ofB others I would like to hear about them.. From mmarr at notwires.com Sat Mar 3 12:15:07 2012 From: mmarr at notwires.com (Michael Marr) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 13:15:07 -0600 Subject: [Morris] Throwout bearings redux In-Reply-To: References: <1330711548.41167.YahooMailClassic@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6968599F114049E3890307359C07B2A4@PhiSchLSpare101> It's silly to disparage certain cars vs others of the same make. Any old car is a good car, in my opinion. Mike -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:25 AM To: Subject: Re: [Morris] Throwout bearings redux > I agree that there are not many Morris forums around the web, and the ones > that are there are often for one model only. > Possibly this is the same for most actual car clubs. > I am a member of the Morris Owners' Club (South Island) here in NZ, and it > is for any Morris ever built, including commercials, trucks, vans, from > 1913 to 1984. I like the inclusiveness of this club. > http://www.mocsi.org.nz/ > > I've been hanging out on the Wolseley forum. They are friendly and > accomodating and I've been thinking about how nice it would be to have a > Morris equivalent of this forum; somewhere that would cater for *all* > morris vehicles. > http://www.wolseleyforum.com/ > > I've looked at the MMOC forum but it (or some members at least) seem > highly disparaging towards any other model of Morris except Minors, which > I > thought was a pity. > > regards, > -- > Robert > > > On Fri, 2 Mar 2012 10:05:48 -0800 (PST), > wrote: >> B >> I wish there were more active Morris groups. >> If your looking for an active group. >> There is some people from your country >> And a couple of other owners of Oxfords. >> Besides the MMOC we are the only active group on the internet is >> morris_motors on yahoo.. >> B >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/morris_motors/ >> B >> Unless you know ofB others I would like to hear about them.. > _______________________________________________ > > Morris at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/morris/mmarr at notwires.com From dkern at napanet.net Sat Mar 3 12:39:43 2012 From: dkern at napanet.net (David Kernberger) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 11:39:43 -0800 Subject: [Morris] Throwout bearings redux In-Reply-To: <6968599F114049E3890307359C07B2A4@PhiSchLSpare101> References: <1330711548.41167.YahooMailClassic@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6968599F114049E3890307359C07B2A4@PhiSchLSpare101> Message-ID: For what it is worth, I too have tried to sort out the identification and dimensions of 948, 1098, and 1275 throwout bearings and have found that nobody seems to know anything very specific. I even once ordered new specimens of the 3 types so I would have them for comparison---and when I did I found the results still unclear. The clutches and flywheels themselves, as well as the rear engine plates, are very different also. It seems like somebody ought to be able to answer the question. How about it? Anybody else have helpful information? Cheers, David Kernberger ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >It's silly to disparage certain cars vs others of the same make. >Any old car is a good car, in my opinion. > >Mike >-------------------------------------------------- >From: >Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:25 AM >To: >Subject: Re: [Morris] Throwout bearings redux > >>I agree that there are not many Morris forums around the web, and the ones >>that are there are often for one model only. >>Possibly this is the same for most actual car clubs. >>I am a member of the Morris Owners' Club (South Island) here in NZ, and it >>is for any Morris ever built, including commercials, trucks, vans, from >>1913 to 1984. I like the inclusiveness of this club. >>http://www.mocsi.org.nz/ >> >>I've been hanging out on the Wolseley forum. They are friendly and >>accomodating and I've been thinking about how nice it would be to have a >>Morris equivalent of this forum; somewhere that would cater for *all* >>morris vehicles. >>http://www.wolseleyforum.com/ >> >>I've looked at the MMOC forum but it (or some members at least) seem >>highly disparaging towards any other model of Morris except Minors, which I >>thought was a pity. >> >>regards, >>-- >>Robert >> >> >>On Fri, 2 Mar 2012 10:05:48 -0800 (PST), >>wrote: >>>B >>>I wish there were more active Morris groups. >>>If your looking for an active group. >>>There is some people from your country >>>And a couple of other owners of Oxfords. >>>Besides the MMOC we are the only active group on the internet is >>>morris_motors on yahoo.. >>>B >>>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/morris_motors/ >>>B >>>Unless you know ofB others I would like to hear about them.. >>_______________________________________________ >> >>Morris at autox.team.net >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/morris/mmarr at notwires.com >_______________________________________________ > >Morris at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $11.47 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/morris/dkern at napanet.net From mark at bradakis.com Sun Mar 4 03:49:47 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 03:49:47 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Morris] Team.Net forums Message-ID: <20120304104947.9AA742E090@bradakis.com> Okay, I think that the forums are back online. Check out http://www.team.net/forums and see if it behaves as you expect. Remember that the forum login/password is completely independent of your mailing list password. If you want to post you have to be a registered user. Anyone can look, no problem. Any problems, comments or whatever let me know. mjb. From monster at caverock.net.nz Sun Mar 4 01:40:49 2012 From: monster at caverock.net.nz (monster at caverock.net.nz) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2012 21:40:49 +1300 Subject: [Morris] Throwout bearings redux In-Reply-To: <1330789258.71402.YahooMailClassic@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1330789258.71402.YahooMailClassic@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 3 Mar 2012 07:40:58 -0800 (PST), wrote: > B > I for got to ask if you know Cobb's Morris bits in Christchurch Yes, but not very well. Met him a couple of times when I have been down in Christchurch (my parents and family live there). He is a nice bloke - has the SU petrol pump repair agency for NZ although I think he outsources these. -- Robert From monster at caverock.net.nz Sun Mar 4 02:07:21 2012 From: monster at caverock.net.nz (monster at caverock.net.nz) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2012 22:07:21 +1300 Subject: [Morris] Throwout bearings redux In-Reply-To: <6968599F114049E3890307359C07B2A4@PhiSchLSpare101> References: <1330711548.41167.YahooMailClassic@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6968599F114049E3890307359C07B2A4@PhiSchLSpare101> Message-ID: <88bc55dabb23f3fa492898091416d4b0@snap.net.nz> On Sat, 3 Mar 2012 13:15:07 -0600, "Michael Marr" wrote: > It's silly to disparage certain cars vs others of the same make. Any old > car is a good car, in my opinion. Well, it has made it this far. Must have something going for it :-) Actually, looking through more recent posts at MMOC things seem much better towards other Morris models, especially the MO (which is understandable given the family resemblance). regards, -- Robert From monster at caverock.net.nz Sun Mar 4 02:14:14 2012 From: monster at caverock.net.nz (monster at caverock.net.nz) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2012 22:14:14 +1300 Subject: [Morris] Throwout bearings redux In-Reply-To: References: <1330711548.41167.YahooMailClassic@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6968599F114049E3890307359C07B2A4@PhiSchLSpare101> Message-ID: Looking at the shapes of the various bearings I think it would matter a lot which throwout lever is being used, and that could be tricky to say definitely without measuring/checking - there is nothing preventing an 'incorrect' part from a later car being installed some time in the last 50 years. There are still enough knowledable BMC mechanics and engine rebuilding workshops here in NZ (and the UK) that could probably give you an answer very quickly - but I don't know about elsewhere. I've got a BMC parts book for my cars (Oxford, Cowley, Isis) - the diagrams and accompanying part numbers and where they changed in service are very handy to have. Must be lots of similar books for Minors. regards, -- Robert On Sat, 3 Mar 2012 11:39:43 -0800, David Kernberger wrote: > For what it is worth, I too have tried to sort out the > identification and dimensions of 948, 1098, and 1275 throwout > bearings and have found that nobody seems to know anything very > specific. I even once ordered new specimens of the 3 types so I > would have them for comparison---and when I did I found the results > still unclear. The clutches and flywheels themselves, as well as the > rear engine plates, are very different also. It seems like somebody > ought to be able to answer the question. How about it? Anybody else > have helpful information? From dkern at napanet.net Sun Mar 4 12:37:34 2012 From: dkern at napanet.net (David Kernberger) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 11:37:34 -0800 Subject: [Morris] Throwout bearings redux In-Reply-To: <1330826811.8874.YahooMailClassic@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1330826811.8874.YahooMailClassic@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Gerard, No, I have not seen that before. Thank you very much. Dave K. _______________________________________________________________________ >David, > >Did you see the link to gerards garage? > ><http://gerardsgarage.com/Garage/Tech/TO_Bearings/tobearings.htm> > > >he has the differece on his website.. >He may have just posted it to the Morris_motors group >Morris Minor & All Morris Vehicles Group >http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/morris_motors/ >He has other great information on his web site. >Gerard is very knowledgeable on British cars, > >Vigil > > > >--- On Sat, 3/3/12, David Kernberger wrote: > > >From: David Kernberger >Subject: Re: [Morris] Throwout bearings redux >To: "Morris" >Date: Saturday, March 3, 2012, 11:39 AM > > For what it is worth, I too have tried to sort out the >identification and dimensions of 948, 1098, and 1275 throwout >bearings and have found that nobody seems to know anything very >specific. I even once ordered new specimens of the 3 types so I >would have them for comparison---and when I did I found the results >still unclear. The clutches and flywheels themselves, as well as the >rear engine plates, are very different also. It seems like somebody >ought to be able to answer the question. How about it? Anybody else >have helpful information? > >Cheers, >David Kernberger > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>It's silly to disparage certain cars vs others of the same make. >>Any old car is a good car, in my opinion. >> >>Mike >>-------------------------------------------------- >>From: >><monster at caverock.net.nz> >>Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:25 AM >>To: >><Morris at autox.team.net> >>Subject: Re: [Morris] Throwout bearings redux >> >>>I agree that there are not many Morris forums around the web, and the ones >>>that are there are often for one model only. >>>Possibly this is the same for most actual car clubs. >>>I am a member of the Morris Owners' Club (South Island) here in NZ, and it >>>is for any Morris ever built, including commercials, trucks, vans, from >>>1913 to 1984. I like the inclusiveness of this club. >>>http://www.mocsi.org.nz/ >>> >>>I've been hanging out on the Wolseley forum. They are friendly and >>>accomodating and I've been thinking about how nice it would be to have a >>>Morris equivalent of this forum; somewhere that would cater for *all* >>>morris vehicles. >>>http://www.wolseleyforum.com/ >>> >>>I've looked at the MMOC forum but it (or some members at least) seem >>>highly disparaging towards any other model of Morris except Minors, which I >>>thought was a pity. >>> >>>regards, >>>-- >>>Robert >>> >>> >>>On Fri, 2 Mar 2012 10:05:48 -0800 (PST), >>><uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> >>>wrote: >>>>B >>>>I wish there were more active Morris groups. >>>>If your looking for an active group. >>>>There is some people from your country >>>>And a couple of other owners of Oxfords. >>>>Besides the MMOC we are the only active group on the internet is >>>>morris_motors on yahoo.. >>>>B >>>>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/morris_motors/ >>>>B >>>>Unless you know ofB others I would like to hear about them.. >>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/morris/mmarr at notwires.com >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/morris/dkern at napanet.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $11.47 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/morris/uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com From mark at bradakis.com Sun Mar 4 12:44:48 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2012 12:44:48 -0700 Subject: [Morris] Throwout bearings redux In-Reply-To: References: <1330711548.41167.YahooMailClassic@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F53C630.5020607@bradakis.com> monster at caverock.net.nz wrote: > I agree that there are not many Morris forums around the web, and the ones > that are there are often for one model only. > I could easily set up a Morris forum at Team.Net. Most Team.Net folks prefer email, rather than the forum format, though they always reference other forums they visit. mjb.