<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Not sure if this is relevant, however Morgan still makes interior trim kits for older Morgans. Recently had one made for a 1966 Plus 4, including seat squabs etc.<div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
Best,<br class=""><br class="">Tcherek<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 17, 2018, at 8:23 AM, wbeech <<a href="mailto:wbeech@flash.net" class="">wbeech@flash.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Optima-Regular; font-size: 17px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">John,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Yes! This is the one I remember, shame on me for not looking in the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://team.net/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">team.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>archives. I do watch Norm Abrams and am reasonable talented in woodworking so I will give it a try. Only that his starting width of 44” does not relate to the overall inside width of the cab, mine is only 41-7/8” I.D. and I am unclear as to how much of a gap I should start with, think about 1-1/2” on each side.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Then when he get to the ‘reuse your springs from the old backrest” he has lost me as I have no backrest. I will probably go contoured foam at this point.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">All the best,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Bill<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>John T. Blair [<a href="mailto:jblair1948@cox.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:jblair1948@cox.net</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, October 16, 2018 10:40 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wbeech <<a href="mailto:wbeech@flash.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">wbeech@flash.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:morgans@autox.team.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">morgans@autox.team.net</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Morgans] Seat back pattern<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">At 02:14 PM 10/16/2018, wbeech wrote:<br class=""><br class="">>OK, I’ll contribute to the list with my current challenge, a 1954 Plus Four. Re-<br class="">>building a basket case without benefit of being the one that disassembled it. Car<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>has no interior at all, making the seat bases is no problem but I am trying to re-<br class="">>construct the seat back, have been working on making a pattern via the cut-n-fit-<br class="">>n-cutsomemore method but not real sure just how the back rides on the side sills<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>and sits against the chassis cross member for bracing. Somewhere on the web,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>not GoMog, I found a good tutorial with pictures of the way the back board was<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>configured to accept the foam to give the proper contours, but now I cannot find<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>it. .....<br class=""><br class="">Bill,<br class=""><br class="">While this probably isn't the item you were looking for, here is some info I received<br class="">some time back. I want to get it up on SOL's Morgan Web page, but haven't had<br class="">the chance.<br class=""><br class="">----------------------------<br class=""><br class="">From: "Jeff Webster" <<a href="mailto:carfindr@tiac.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">carfindr@tiac.net</a>><br class="">To: <<a href="mailto:Morgans@autox.team.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Morgans@autox.team.net</a>><br class="">Subject: RE: Roadster seat backrest (rebuild).<br class="">Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:01:31 -0400<br class=""><br class="">Dear All,<br class="">I thought I'd post this letter so it may end up in the archives. Here is<br class="">some valuable information regarding the bench seat back rest of an early<br class="">'high-cowl' roadster. This information may also be useful to those with the<br class="">low body style.<br class="">I have had the opportunity to remove the leather coverings from my roadster<br class="">backrest as I had intended on replacing the wooden part as mine had rotted<br class="">(not to mention the leather). The idea was to have a new wood backrest made<br class="">and ready to go when I took it to the upholsterer.<br class="">WELL, This was not to be. THE BACKREST IS A COMPLICATED AFFAIR.<br class="">It is not something that can be made out of a sheet of half inch plywood,<br class="">and I'll tell you why.<br class="">Firstly, the original is made up from four different shaped/sized pieces of<br class="">wood, it has 19 springs (9 large ones and 10 small) that are attached in<br class="">different areas of the back. Moreover some are bent in such a way to give<br class="">that great "old sofa" look to the backrest when it is in the car.<br class="">I would STRONGLY suggest that if your back rest is shot, you either replace<br class="">it with bucket seats or look for a good used back rest at a swap meet.<br class=""><br class="">However, If you watch Norm Abrams regularly and you are either desperate or<br class="">brave enough to attempt to make a replica - here are the measurements and<br class="">materials you will need.<br class="">Begin with a piece of quarter inch Luan board. It should measure 44'" Wide<br class="">by 21 & 3/4" deep.<br class="">Measuring from left to right, (along the long side) move the tape in 1 &<br class="">1/2" from the left side and make a mark. Then, from that mark, measure 41"<br class="">(this accomodates the notch either side at the top of the back rest, for<br class="">the hood frame.) This notch extends down from the top, 4 & 1/4" each side in<br class="">a slight curve.<br class="">The overall depth of the backrest is 21 & 3/4". Having marked for the notch<br class="">at the top, measure from the very top of the backrest down the right side 17<br class="">&1/2" and make a mark. (You will now begin to mark the bottom cut out, where<br class="">it bridges the leaf springs and sits on the sills). Measure in 4", down 1 &<br class="">1/2", then in 3", and down 2" to the bottom of the backrest. The total width<br class="">of this notch should be 7 & 1/2". Now, measure in from the right side edge<br class="">(not from the notch) 19" and put a mark.<br class="">Mirror the above measurements for the two notches on the left side of the<br class="">back.<br class="">At the bottom, in the middle you should end up with two marks about 6"<br class="">apart, this is where the cut out will be for the prop shaft tunnel. It<br class="">should be about 6 & 1/2" high, but it tapers. The best thing to do is set<br class="">your prop shaft tunnel on the back rest and use it as a template, you'll get<br class="">a much more accurate cut, but remember not to make it taller than 7".<br class="">At this stage you should not have made any cuts - everything should just be<br class="">marked though on the Luan board.<br class="">The next step is to take some 1/2" x 3" stock. (you could use 1/2" ply cut<br class="">3" wide). You will need two pieces 38 1/2" long for the top rail and the<br class="">upper base rail, two pieces 22" long for the side rails, one piece 12" long<br class="">for the center rail, one piece cut 7" wide x 38 & 1/2" long for the lower<br class="">base rail.<br class="">Now, turn your Luan back rest over on the floor so that the markings you<br class="">made earlier are facing down. Next lay out your pre cut lengths of 1/2" ply<br class="">as follows:<br class="">First place your two side rails on the outside edges either side, then place<br class="">the 7" wide base rail horizontally between them at the very bottom, directly<br class="">above that place the upper base rail and then place the top rail at the top<br class="">edge. Finally figure and mark the center point of the top and upper base<br class="">rail out, mark it and place the 12" center rail vertically between these two<br class="">points. You now have your basic frame laid out. You need to attach these<br class="">frame pieces to the Luan. I would suggest (now you know how it should look)<br class="">removing them and re-laying them out on the floor in front of you, then<br class="">place the Luan board on top (with your markings facing up) and nail through<br class="">the Luan into the ply wood frame rails, a little glue wouldn't hurt.<br class="">YOU ARE ALMOST FINISHED!<br class="">Once the frame pieces have been nailed to the Luan and the glue has dried,<br class="">take a plane and knock a 45 degree bevel top frame rail, but not so deep<br class="">that you cut into the Luan. Then, with a jig saw, cut out areas we marked<br class="">earlier.<br class="">Once again lay the back rest on the floor, frame side up, as we have two<br class="">more pieces of wood to add. These strengtheners are 23 & 1/2" long, 1 & 1/2"<br class="">wide by 1" deep. They run top to bottom, on their edge, at a slight diagonal<br class="">beginning, (measuring along the top of the backrest) 4" in from the hood<br class="">bow notch on either side - to just inside the notch we cut out for the leaf<br class="">spring shackle. You will see once you lay these on your backrest that you<br class="">will have to notch out these strengtheners so they attach to the Luan in<br class="">some places and frame in others. These pieces have a 45 degree bevel on ALL<br class="">FOUR long edges that will be inside the seat back. In addition the ends are<br class="">cut at 45 degrees so that they taper to create a wedge (2 - 2 1/2" long)<br class="">towards the top and bottom of the seat. These pieces are then attached to<br class="">the back rest with screws from behind.<br class="">There are just two more things you have to do. In the square area of Luan<br class="">that you now see either side of the center rail, drill a 1" air hole in the<br class="">middle. Finally, sand all the outside edges so there is nothing that will<br class="">rip you new leather when it's applied.<br class="">THAT'S IT!!!! You now have a Morgan back rest!<br class=""><br class="">You should be able to re-use the springs from your old back rest. As I<br class="">mentioned earlier, there are 19 ! The two side rails get three large ones<br class="">each as does the center rail, the top row of the larger ones are bent down.<br class="">The square Luan section on each side get five small springs each, in a<br class="">square shape with one in the middle. All protruding frame edges on the<br class="">inside of the seat are covered with horse hair. A good auto upholsterer<br class="">should be able to take it from here.<br class=""><br class="">Good luck!!<br class=""><br class="">Jeff Webster<br class=""><br class="">------------<br class=""><br class="">From: "Jeff Webster" <<a href="mailto:carfindr@tiac.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">carfindr@tiac.net</a>><br class="">To: "John T. Blair" <<a href="mailto:jblair@exis.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jblair@exis.net</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Subject: RE: Roadster seat backrest (rebuild).<br class=""><br class="">Jeff,<br class=""><br class=""> If you don't mind, I'd like to put your article up on the SOL's Morgan<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Web page. Also do you have any pictures or sketches to go with your<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">explaniation?<br class=""><br class="">----------------------------<br class=""><br class="">John<o:p class=""></o:p></p><div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="1" cellpadding="0" style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(211, 212, 222); border-top-width: 1pt;"><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td width="58" style="width: 41.25pt; border: none; padding: 9.75pt 0.75pt 0.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="text-decoration: none;" class=""><img border="0" width="46" height="29" id="_x0000_i1025" src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif" class=""></span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></td><td width="473" style="width: 352.5pt; border: none; padding: 9pt 0.75pt 0.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 13.5pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(65, 66, 78);" class="">Virus-free.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(68, 83, 234);" class="">www.avast.com</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">John T. 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