<div dir="ltr">Hi John,<div><br></div><div>I'd be very interested to see what was done also!  </div><div><br></div><div>Several years ago a mate and I built up a seriously rusty Mini Van for outback charity rallies on the cheap.   We were investigating how we could get big 12 inch tyres on it for more clearance.  In the end it was all too hard.  We ran 145R10 light truck tyres with hi-lo's wound up as far as we dared, a Moke sump guard and a custom made petrol tank guard.   By the time we loaded up the spares, tools and clothes for two weeks on the road, the sump guard was about 4 inches off the ground anyway!!</div><div><br></div><div>The van did five or six events with us before our wives ran out of patience with us and we sold it.  </div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Brett Nicholson (bnicho)<br>Greendale, Victoria, Australia.<br></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 11:36 AM John Lieberman <<a href="mailto:jlieberman37@comcast.net">jlieberman37@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    I'm positive about the tire size, Brett.  That's why I believe it
    must be the offset of the wheels that keeps the tires from fouling. 
    And, that's why I want to get it up on a lift so I can take a closer
    look at what was done to it before I got the car.<br>
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    The 165/70s are pretty easy to come by here in the US, but any other
    size I will have to import.  And that really drives up the cost. 
    Still, I'd really like to have 165/60s!!!<br>
    <br>
    JL<br>
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    <div class="gmail-m_9191246326697837945moz-cite-prefix">On 9/16/2019 8:11 PM, Brett Nicholson
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi John,
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        <div>That's strange!  Are you sure of that size?  If they have a
          radical deep dish offset it may help.  Perhaps someone has
          ground back the bracket as well.  If that size is on there
          now, no reason not to use it again!</div>
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        <div>My trailer has 155/70R12 tyres on alloys and the tyres
          won't fit the back of our standard Mk1 Austin. </div>
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        <div>Aussie Mokes from late 1968 to 1982 have longer rear
          trailing arms to allow 13 inch wheels and 175R13 tyres to be
          fitted.  When bolted up to a Mini it pushes the wheel centre
          back three or four inches, so it would be very obvious if they
          have been fitted to your Mini! <br>
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        <div>Cheers,</div>
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                    <div>Brett Nicholson (bnicho)<br>
                      Greendale, Victoria, Australia.<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 11:00
          AM John Lieberman <<a href="mailto:jlieberman37@comcast.net" target="_blank">jlieberman37@comcast.net</a>>
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          <div> That's strange, Brett, because this car has 165/70R12s
            on it right now and they don't foul in any way.  Maybe it's
            because of the offset of the wheels that they're mounted
            on.  I don't know what kind of wheels they are because they
            have a Union Jack decal covering the center cap, but they
            look a lot like Minilites.<br>
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            I need to get this thing up on a lift so I can get
            underneath it and take a closer look at what has and hasn't
            been done to the suspension.  I'm at least the 12th owner
            since this car was new in '81, according to the paperwork I
            got when I bought it, so there's no telling what all has
            been done to it by previous owners. <br>
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            JL<br>
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            <div class="gmail-m_9191246326697837945gmail-m_305689096128737512moz-cite-prefix">On
              9/16/2019 6:56 AM, Brett Nicholson wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="auto">Hi,
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                <div dir="auto">165/70R12 will foul on the rear trailing
                  arm bracket.  </div>
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                <div dir="auto">All that will definitely fit and clear
                  that bracket is 145/70R12, 165/60R12 or 165/55R12.  </div>
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                <div dir="auto">Cheers,</div>
                <div dir="auto">Brett.</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 16 Sep. 2019,
                  8:43 pm T.A.J.M. van den Bogaard, <<a href="mailto:T.A.J.M.vdnBogaard@uvt.nl" target="_blank">T.A.J.M.vdnBogaard@uvt.nl</a>>
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                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br>
                  <br>
                  I'd go for 165/60 because of experience on my old spi
                  Cooper<br>
                  That came originally with 145/70 12's;  table beneath
                  here also shows there's less difference to the
                  original in that choice .. apart from that I think
                  165/60 is better available here in the Netherlands ;-)<br>
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                  FWIW,<br>
                  Theo van den Bogaard<br>
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                  <a href="https://tiresize.com/calculator/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tiresize.com/calculator/</a><br>
                  165/60 vs 70<br>
                  19.8 vs 21.1 dia<br>
                  3.9 vs 4.5 sidewall<br>
                  62.2 vs 66.2 circum<br>
                  1019 vs 957 revs/mile<br>
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                  165/60<br>
                  145/70<br>
                  19.8 vs 20 dia<br>
                  3.9 vs 4 sidewall<br>
                  62.2 vs 62.8 circum<br>
                  1019 vs 1009 revs/mile<br>
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                  Subject: [Mini] Tire sizes<br>
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                  I think I know the answer to this question before I
                  ask it...but...<br>
                  <br>
                  The '81 Mini that I imported to the US from England
                  earlier this year<br>
                  has 165/70R12 tires (or tyres!) on it.  One of them
                  has a slow leak and<br>
                  another has a split around part of the sidewall.  So
                  I'm looking into<br>
                  new tires all the way around.  I can get 165/70
                  Nankangs here in the US<br>
                  for less than $50 per tire.  But I'd really like to go
                  with 165/60 Yoko<br>
                  A539s.  However, to do that, I would have to import
                  them from across the<br>
                  pond and pay considerably more.<br>
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                  If you had a choice between 165/70 and 165/60, which
                  would you choose<br>
                  for a street-driven car and why?!?<br>
                  <br>
                  JL<br>
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