From minilists at mibv.com Wed May 1 10:57:44 2013 From: minilists at mibv.com (Anne) Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 18:57:44 +0200 Subject: [Mini] Engine out (Was: Oil spitting) Message-ID: On monday we did a compression test on the Van. In bar(psi) it read; 8(115) - 6(85) - 6,75(95) - 8,25(120) So low readings and big difference between 4 and 1 vs 3 and 2. Down went some oil down the bores. It then read; 11,5(165) - 10(145) - ... we didn't even bother to measure the rest. The rings definately are shot. Luckely a block was at hand with dished pistons, meant for a turbo setup. As luck has it, this is an injection block, but a KDFI was also at hand. So the new challenge is to get this running and run in before the IMM... And for example where to place the triggerwheel. Anne. -- On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Anne wrote: > After the fuel issues was sorted sorted and the clutch keeps working fine > with the washer installed, it was time for the Van to think of another > symptom to come up with. > > First it tried to impress me with a fairly lack of improvement in bhp or > torque (+ 4 and + 10 after fitting the charger), but as that did not work, > it started to throw out the engine oil. > > Although initially not directly a problem, I had a look at where all that > oil was coming from. > From the pattern it looked like it was being pushed out of the dipstick > hole. The stick was not really sticking anymore; just lying in there. > > After I 'solved' this by plugging the dipstick hole, the oil found other > ways to get out of the block. > Somewhere behind the distributor and also a bit past the oilfiller cap. > That did become a problem, and not just because it really DOES need oil, > but also because it was now spitting it over the hot parts of the engine, > resulting in nasty blue smoke getting into the cabin. > > Or at least I think that is what that smoke was. At least it is very clear > it's spitting out the oil in places it shoudln't. > > Pictures as always can be found here; > http://goo.gl/9400P > > Assuming the remaing crankcase breather (on the clutch side) was blocked I > took it off the carb nd checked it. Unforunately (would have been an easy > fix most likely) there is no blockage on either the engine nor carb side. > > Any hints as to what can be done to figure out where the problem is? > > Anne. From fritss at ps.gen.nz Wed May 1 12:52:45 2013 From: fritss at ps.gen.nz (Frits Schouten) Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 06:52:45 +1200 Subject: [Mini] Tight fit in the engine bay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20130501184852.M73092@ps.gen.nz> Hi Anne, I thought I had a tight fit in the engine bay. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/CVLUv-alN6WlajozlESRbdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink NOT SO! Looking at you photos, your pretty tight in the engine bay department too. https://plus.google.com/photos/111869104782579959803/albums/5862055546931869809/5862060999193069570 Cheers, Frits. -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) From minilists at mibv.com Wed May 1 14:18:25 2013 From: minilists at mibv.com (Anne) Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 22:18:25 +0200 Subject: [Mini] Tight fit in the engine bay In-Reply-To: <20130501184852.M73092@ps.gen.nz> References: <20130501184852.M73092@ps.gen.nz> Message-ID: Hi Frits, The back of the charger is indeed very close to the master brake cylinder (about 50mm). That's why I added another engine steady (bottom right) as well changed the standard top engine steady for an adjustable one. Now the chargerhouse only hits the brake cylinder when I pull away in 1st gear at times. Before it would constantly be knocking against it. Anne. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Frits Schouten wrote: > Hi Anne, > > > I thought I had a tight fit in the engine bay. > > https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/CVLUv-alN6WlajozlESRbdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink > > NOT SO! Looking at you photos, your pretty tight in the engine bay > department too. > > https://plus.google.com/photos/111869104782579959803/albums/5862055546931869809/5862060999193069570 > > > Cheers, > Frits. > > -- > Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) From minilists at mibv.com Fri May 24 18:27:05 2013 From: minilists at mibv.com (Anne) Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 02:27:05 +0200 Subject: [Mini] Engine out (Was: Oil spitting) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So now a new balanced MPi block is fitted. Some pictures can be seen here; http://goo.gl/yNMLQ There seem to be some differences between the old block and the MPi block. The most obvious is the missing hole for the distributor. Thats covered by fitting a KDFI unit and triggerwheel with VR sensor. Also the studs connecting the block to the gearbox seem to be a tad bigger. The gearbox seems to be in quite good nick BTW, no chaffing, chipping, play or anything out of the ordinary. The oilfilter and connection of it seems to be different As are the holes next to it. I'm also not quite sure where the water temp sensor is supposed to go on a MPi block. Nor does this seem to be covered clearly in the till '01 Haynes... Anyone know what the most important differences are, or maybe have a page where they are listed/outlined? Anne. -- On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Anne wrote: > On monday we did a compression test on the Van. > > In bar(psi) it read; > 8(115) - 6(85) - 6,75(95) - 8,25(120) > > So low readings and big difference between 4 and 1 vs 3 and 2. > > Down went some oil down the bores. It then read; > > 11,5(165) - 10(145) - ... > > we didn't even bother to measure the rest. > The rings definately are shot. > > Luckely a block was at hand with dished pistons, meant for a turbo setup. > As luck has it, this is an injection block, but a KDFI was also at hand. > So the new challenge is to get this running and run in before the IMM... > > And for example where to place the triggerwheel. > > Anne. > -- > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Anne wrote: > >> After the fuel issues was sorted sorted and the clutch keeps working fine >> with the washer installed, it was time for the Van to think of another >> symptom to come up with. >> >> First it tried to impress me with a fairly lack of improvement in bhp or >> torque (+ 4 and + 10 after fitting the charger), but as that did not work, >> it started to throw out the engine oil. >> >> Although initially not directly a problem, I had a look at where all that >> oil was coming from. >> From the pattern it looked like it was being pushed out of the dipstick >> hole. The stick was not really sticking anymore; just lying in there. >> >> After I 'solved' this by plugging the dipstick hole, the oil found other >> ways to get out of the block. >> Somewhere behind the distributor and also a bit past the oilfiller cap. >> That did become a problem, and not just because it really DOES need oil, >> but also because it was now spitting it over the hot parts of the engine, >> resulting in nasty blue smoke getting into the cabin. >> >> Or at least I think that is what that smoke was. At least it is very >> clear it's spitting out the oil in places it shoudln't. >> >> Pictures as always can be found here; >> http://goo.gl/9400P >> >> Assuming the remaing crankcase breather (on the clutch side) was blocked >> I took it off the carb nd checked it. Unforunately (would have been an easy >> fix most likely) there is no blockage on either the engine nor carb side. >> >> Any hints as to what can be done to figure out where the problem is? >> >> Anne. From minilists at mibv.com Sat May 25 10:12:54 2013 From: minilists at mibv.com (Anne) Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 18:12:54 +0200 Subject: [Mini] Engine out (Was: Oil spitting) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I know it's not really good form to reply to your own message, but as I've now been enlightened a bit I thought I'd share the information :) I made an image outlining the holes on a MPi block and marked what they are for. http://goo.gl/er35u In some you can use the same parts as in a 'standard' Mini block, marked with (), others have MPi specific threads, marked with []. As to the water temp sensor. The question was wrong :) As I'm keeping the 'old' head, there is no need to change the water temp sensor. But there is indeed a thermostat house that fits a water tempsender. Apparently this was only used in 1997 (to switch a 2nd fan) and therefor the senders are fairly hard to come by and also expensive. Anne. -- On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 2:27 AM, Anne wrote: > So now a new balanced MPi block is fitted. > Some pictures can be seen here; http://goo.gl/yNMLQ > There seem to be some differences between the old block and the MPi > block. > The most obvious is the missing hole for the distributor. Thats covered by > fitting a KDFI unit and triggerwheel with VR sensor. > Also the studs connecting the block to the gearbox seem to be a tad bigger. > The gearbox seems to be in quite good nick BTW, no chaffing, chipping, > play or anything out of the ordinary. > The oilfilter and connection of it seems to be different > As are the holes next to it. > I'm also not quite sure where the water temp sensor is supposed to go on a > MPi block. > Nor does this seem to be covered clearly in the till '01 Haynes... > Anyone know what the most important differences are, or maybe have a page > where they are listed/outlined? > Anne.