From brett at nicho.id.au Tue Apr 2 17:58:56 2013 From: brett at nicho.id.au (Brett Nicholson) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 10:58:56 +1100 Subject: [Mini] Sh!tbox Rally 2013 Australia - in a Mini! Message-ID: Hi, I should have updated everyone of what I have been up to with this event earlier. This list is so quiet these days I tend to forget it exists. :( A mate and I have entered in the Sh!tbox Rally in a 1969 Mini Van. In May the 2013 Rally goes from Adelaide to Uluru and then to Fremantle in Western Australia via rough dirt roads. It's not a competitive rally, it's a test of survival with the goal of getting as many of the cars to the end as possible. The rally is around 4,000km in six days but with getting to the start point and driving home again from the finish we expect to cover around 10,000km in total over three weeks. The rally rules state that the maximum you can spend on your car is $1,000AU. Each team must raise a minimum of $4,000AU in sponsorship and donations for the Cancer Council. Most teams buy a rubbish 90's car and just drive it. We were donated this very rusty Mini Van and fixed it up using mostly donated parts. We fired it up and drove it out of the garage for the first time just a few days ago. If you are on Facebook and are interested in seeing more you can find us here: https://www.facebook.com/TeamBMC2013 We also have a bit of info on the official site here, which is not updated as often: http://fundraise.shitboxrally.com.au/team_bmc Cheers, Brett -- Brett Nicholson (bnicho) Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. From john.bullas at gmail.com Sat Apr 13 13:26:08 2013 From: john.bullas at gmail.com (Dr John C Bullas) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 20:26:08 +0100 Subject: [Mini] Rinky-dink spark plug gapper - any ideas where to find another? Message-ID: http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnbullas/8644448390/in/photostream I have had this for years, it still works brilliantly, any ideas where to find another? Dr B Southampton UK -- =========================== http://uk.linkedin.com/in/drjohnbullas From john.bullas at gmail.com Sun Apr 14 15:34:14 2013 From: john.bullas at gmail.com (Dr John C Bullas) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 22:34:14 +0100 Subject: [Mini] Rinky-dink spark plug gapper - any ideas where to find another? In-Reply-To: <8D006EA99AE21A8-1998-53866@webmail-d294.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D006EA99AE21A8-1998-53866@webmail-d294.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://www.jegs.com/i/Accel/110/380700/10002/-1 But others do them.... Regards John On 14 April 2013 06:46, wrote: > *Is there a name on the tool? It's pretty cool!* > ** > * - Paul B.* > -----Original Message----- > From: Dr John C Bullas > To: Mini-List ; minilist < > minilist at yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:26 pm > Subject: [Mini] Rinky-dink spark plug gapper - any ideas where to find > another? > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnbullas/8644448390/in/photostream > > I have had this for years, it still works brilliantly, any ideas where to > find another? > > Dr B > Southampton UK > > -- > > > > ===========================http://uk.linkedin.com/in/drjohnbullas > _______________________________________________Mini-list at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mini-list/fiat500f at aol.com > > -- =========================== http://uk.linkedin.com/in/drjohnbullas From minilists at mibv.com Tue Apr 16 13:46:34 2013 From: minilists at mibv.com (Anne) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 21:46:34 +0200 Subject: [Mini] Clutch throw-out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As mentioned in the other message 'we' did some work on the Van last week. One of the things was to replace the standard clutch with an uprated one. Ever since the Van is back on the road with the supercharger the clutch would slip if I would put my foot down. It turned out it was a bit greasy, although the seal seemed in perfect order. (Which can not be said of the clutch housing but that's another story) Anywhoo, The seal was replaced by a fresh one, plate was replaced by an uprated version C-AHT596 as was the diaphragm changed to the 'grey' version C-AEG482 And then something weird had happened. The clutch would not fully dis-engage anymore. The travel was not enough for the plate to come fully free of the flywheel. After bleeding the system and checkign for air, we figured that, even at full throw, the slave cylinder just wouldn't be able to push the lever out far enough to get the clutch to fully dis-engage. After taking everything off and putting back the old diaphragm we concluded that the old one had even 1mm more travel before it would start to dis-engage. In the end a 3mm washer was fitted behind the clutch bearing and now it does again fully dis-engage. None of the people at the DIY shop, among them experts with years of english car experience, could give a definitive reason as to why all of a sudden the throw-out had lost several mm. Anyone here have an idea? I've since driven a couple of hunderd km's without any issues, so it seems that fitting the washer has done the job. It still is odd though. Anne. From tfrancis at gmail.com Tue Apr 16 13:57:28 2013 From: tfrancis at gmail.com (Tom Francis) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:57:28 -0400 Subject: [Mini] Clutch throw-out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Easy! You need a new clutch arm and plunger thingy. Quick bodge is to heat & bend the clutch arm. Basically, the little ball joint at the end of the clutch arm is worn (Or the bit it mates to). Used to have this problem a few times in the past. And more than anything, I am shocked that I still remember this after all these years! ;) Good luck! Tom... On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Anne wrote: > As mentioned in the other message 'we' did some work on the Van last week. > > One of the things was to replace the standard clutch with an uprated one. > > Ever since the Van is back on the road with the supercharger the > clutch would slip if I would put my foot down. > It turned out it was a bit greasy, although the seal seemed in perfect > order. > (Which can not be said of the clutch housing but that's another story) > > Anywhoo, > > The seal was replaced by a fresh one, > plate was replaced by an uprated version C-AHT596 > as was the diaphragm changed to the 'grey' version C-AEG482 > > And then something weird had happened. > > The clutch would not fully dis-engage anymore. > The travel was not enough for the plate to come fully free of the flywheel. > > After bleeding the system and checkign for air, we figured that, even > at full throw, the slave cylinder just wouldn't be able to push the > lever out far enough to get the clutch to fully dis-engage. > > After taking everything off and putting back the old diaphragm we > concluded that the old one had even 1mm more travel before it would > start to dis-engage. > > In the end a 3mm washer was fitted behind the clutch bearing and now > it does again fully dis-engage. > > None of the people at the DIY shop, among them experts with years of > english car experience, could give a definitive reason as to why all > of a sudden the throw-out had lost several mm. > > Anyone here have an idea? > > I've since driven a couple of hunderd km's without any issues, so it > seems that fitting the washer has done the job. > It still is odd though. > > Anne. > _______________________________________________ > Mini-list at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mini-list/tfrancis at gmail.com From fritss at ps.gen.nz Tue Apr 16 14:11:20 2013 From: fritss at ps.gen.nz (Frits Schouten) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 08:11:20 +1200 Subject: [Mini] Clutch throw-out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20130416200239.M47484@ps.gen.nz> Hi Anne, I've had a simular problem after an clutch upgrade. To make a long story short, it turned out that the clevis pin of the clutch pedal was worn out as was the hole in the clutch pedal itself. I ended up welding the hole shut and redrilling it and of course replaced the clevis pin. To see how much play you have, just slowly push the clutch pedal by hand untill you feel the first resistance. The slack should be next to nothing. Cheers, Frits. On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 21:46:34 +0200, Anne wrote > As mentioned in the other message 'we' did some work on the Van last > week. > > One of the things was to replace the standard clutch with an uprated > one. > > Ever since the Van is back on the road with the supercharger the > clutch would slip if I would put my foot down. > It turned out it was a bit greasy, although the seal seemed in > perfect order. > (Which can not be said of the clutch housing but that's another story) > > Anywhoo, > > The seal was replaced by a fresh one, > plate was replaced by an uprated version C-AHT596 > as was the diaphragm changed to the 'grey' version C-AEG482 > > And then something weird had happened. > > The clutch would not fully dis-engage anymore. > The travel was not enough for the plate to come fully free of the flywheel. > > After bleeding the system and checkign for air, we figured that, even > at full throw, the slave cylinder just wouldn't be able to push the > lever out far enough to get the clutch to fully dis-engage. > > After taking everything off and putting back the old diaphragm we > concluded that the old one had even 1mm more travel before it would > start to dis-engage. > > In the end a 3mm washer was fitted behind the clutch bearing and now > it does again fully dis-engage. > > None of the people at the DIY shop, among them experts with years of > english car experience, could give a definitive reason as to why all > of a sudden the throw-out had lost several mm. > > Anyone here have an idea? > > I've since driven a couple of hunderd km's without any issues, so it > seems that fitting the washer has done the job. > It still is odd though. > > Anne. > _______________________________________________ > Mini-list at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mini-list/fritss at ps.gen.nz -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) From fritss at ps.gen.nz Tue Apr 16 14:14:57 2013 From: fritss at ps.gen.nz (Frits Schouten) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 08:14:57 +1200 Subject: [Mini] Clutch throw-out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20130416201207.M88356@ps.gen.nz> Yep that ball can be very worn. Again, I got the welder out and layered a bit more metal on and then filed it to shape again :-). Cheers, Frits. On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:57:28 -0400, Tom Francis wrote > Easy! You need a new clutch arm and plunger thingy. Quick bodge is > to heat & bend the clutch arm. > > Basically, the little ball joint at the end of the clutch arm is > worn (Or the bit it mates to). > > Used to have this problem a few times in the past. > > And more than anything, I am shocked that I still remember this > after all these years! ;) > > Good luck! > > Tom... > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Anne wrote: > > > As mentioned in the other message 'we' did some work on the Van last week. > > > > One of the things was to replace the standard clutch with an uprated one. > > > > Ever since the Van is back on the road with the supercharger the > > clutch would slip if I would put my foot down. > > It turned out it was a bit greasy, although the seal seemed in perfect > > order. > > (Which can not be said of the clutch housing but that's another story) > > > > Anywhoo, > > > > The seal was replaced by a fresh one, > > plate was replaced by an uprated version C-AHT596 > > as was the diaphragm changed to the 'grey' version C-AEG482 > > > > And then something weird had happened. > > > > The clutch would not fully dis-engage anymore. > > The travel was not enough for the plate to come fully free of the flywheel. > > > > After bleeding the system and checkign for air, we figured that, even > > at full throw, the slave cylinder just wouldn't be able to push the > > lever out far enough to get the clutch to fully dis-engage. > > > > After taking everything off and putting back the old diaphragm we > > concluded that the old one had even 1mm more travel before it would > > start to dis-engage. > > > > In the end a 3mm washer was fitted behind the clutch bearing and now > > it does again fully dis-engage. > > > > None of the people at the DIY shop, among them experts with years of > > english car experience, could give a definitive reason as to why all > > of a sudden the throw-out had lost several mm. > > > > Anyone here have an idea? > > > > I've since driven a couple of hunderd km's without any issues, so it > > seems that fitting the washer has done the job. > > It still is odd though. > > > > Anne. > > _______________________________________________ > > Mini-list at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mini-list/tfrancis at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Mini-list at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mini-list/fritss at ps.gen.nz -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) From ian.donald at defence.gov.au Tue Apr 16 16:49:30 2013 From: ian.donald at defence.gov.au (Donald, Ian MR) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 08:49:30 +1000 Subject: [Mini] Clutch throw-out [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] In-Reply-To: <20130416201207.M88356@ps.gen.nz> References: <20130416201207.M88356@ps.gen.nz> Message-ID: <197D0051B78463449E74DCFD985A940604E3372953@CARRXM01.drn.mil.au> UNCLASSIFIED Its worth checking the inside of the shuttle that carries the realease bearing as well. The internal drilling that the clutch arm goes into should have parallel sides. The ball on the end of the arm usually wears a matching socket/hole in the shuttle. This can load the ball as it moves through its normal up and down travel - sometime causing it to break off. If you're lucky the arm will just fracture at the top of the ball and you may retain some (mushy feeling) clutch travel before ultimate failure... BTDT Cheers, Ian Ian Donald ITAR Manager Air Warfare Destroyer R2-6-B071 +61 (0)2 6266 0170 0427 921 819 (Fax) 62642428 'IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, please contact the sender and delete all copies.' -----Original Message----- From: mini-list-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: On Behalf Of Frits Schouten Sent: Wednesday, 17 April 2013 06:15 To: Tom Francis; Anne Cc: Mini-List; Minilist (yahoo) Subject: Re: [Mini] Clutch throw-out Yep that ball can be very worn. Again, I got the welder out and layered a bit more metal on and then filed it to shape again :-). Cheers, Frits. On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:57:28 -0400, Tom Francis wrote > Easy! You need a new clutch arm and plunger thingy. Quick bodge is to > heat & bend the clutch arm. > > Basically, the little ball joint at the end of the clutch arm is worn > (Or the bit it mates to). > > Used to have this problem a few times in the past. > > And more than anything, I am shocked that I still remember this after > all these years! ;) > > Good luck! > > Tom... > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Anne wrote: > > > As mentioned in the other message 'we' did some work on the Van last week. > > > > One of the things was to replace the standard clutch with an uprated one. > > > > Ever since the Van is back on the road with the supercharger the > > clutch would slip if I would put my foot down. > > It turned out it was a bit greasy, although the seal seemed in > > perfect order. > > (Which can not be said of the clutch housing but that's another > > story) > > > > Anywhoo, > > > > The seal was replaced by a fresh one, plate was replaced by an > > uprated version C-AHT596 as was the diaphragm changed to the 'grey' > > version C-AEG482 > > > > And then something weird had happened. > > > > The clutch would not fully dis-engage anymore. > > The travel was not enough for the plate to come fully free of the flywheel. > > > > After bleeding the system and checkign for air, we figured that, > > even at full throw, the slave cylinder just wouldn't be able to push > > the lever out far enough to get the clutch to fully dis-engage. > > > > After taking everything off and putting back the old diaphragm we > > concluded that the old one had even 1mm more travel before it would > > start to dis-engage. > > > > In the end a 3mm washer was fitted behind the clutch bearing and now > > it does again fully dis-engage. > > > > None of the people at the DIY shop, among them experts with years of > > english car experience, could give a definitive reason as to why all > > of a sudden the throw-out had lost several mm. > > > > Anyone here have an idea? > > > > I've since driven a couple of hunderd km's without any issues, so it > > seems that fitting the washer has done the job. > > It still is odd though. > > > > Anne. > > _______________________________________________ > > Mini-list at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > > $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mini-list/tfrancis at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Mini-list at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mini-list/fritss at ps.gen.nz -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) _______________________________________________ Mini-list at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mini-list/ian.donald at defence.gov.au IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. From john.bullas at gmail.com Thu Apr 18 13:51:03 2013 From: john.bullas at gmail.com (Dr John C Bullas) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 20:51:03 +0100 Subject: [Mini] Mini related skills on LinkedIn Message-ID: I am now awaiting someone to endorse my Mini related skills on LinkedIn..... I decided that a Mini slant on LinkedIn is too good to miss out on since the car has occupied so much of my waking existence on this planet! Pip Pip! Dr B a.k.a. John "Fatbloke" Bullas Mini-list co-founder minilist co-founder and moderator -- =========================== http://uk.linkedin.com/in/drjohnbullas From minilists at mibv.com Fri Apr 26 10:11:20 2013 From: minilists at mibv.com (Anne) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:11:20 +0200 Subject: [Mini] Oil spitting Message-ID: After the fuel issues was sorted sorted and the clutch keeps working fine with the washer installed, it was time for the Van to think of another symptom to come up with. First it tried to impress me with a fairly lack of improvement in bhp or torque (+ 4 and + 10 after fitting the charger), but as that did not work, it started to throw out the engine oil. Although initially not directly a problem, I had a look at where all that oil was coming from. >From the pattern it looked like it was being pushed out of the dipstick hole. The stick was not really sticking anymore; just lying in there. After I 'solved' this by plugging the dipstick hole, the oil found other ways to get out of the block. Somewhere behind the distributor and also a bit past the oilfiller cap. That did become a problem, and not just because it really DOES need oil, but also because it was now spitting it over the hot parts of the engine, resulting in nasty blue smoke getting into the cabin. Or at least I think that is what that smoke was. At least it is very clear it's spitting out the oil in places it shoudln't. Pictures as always can be found here; http://goo.gl/9400P Assuming the remaing crankcase breather (on the clutch side) was blocked I took it off the carb nd checked it. Unforunately (would have been an easy fix most likely) there is no blockage on either the engine nor carb side. Any hints as to what can be done to figure out where the problem is? Anne. From belvenfish at yahoo.co.uk Fri Apr 26 11:09:40 2013 From: belvenfish at yahoo.co.uk (belvenfish at yahoo.co.uk) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:09:40 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Mini] Oil spitting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1366996180.14279.YahooMailNeo@web171205.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Hi Anne, I don't think you ought to block the crankcase breather, you have obviously got too much crankcase pressure, so fit a hose into an open tin to get the fumes out, alternatively into the inlet manifold if you can or similar. I don't remember what you said about the state of the engine, could be worn piston rings. HTH Dr. Gernot Vonhoegen BelvenServices Senior Translator Scientific / Technical Belven 55 4730 Raeren Belgien Tel: 0032/87/33 97 35 ________________________________ From: Anne To: Minilist (yahoo) ; Mini List Sent: Friday, 26 April 2013, 18:11 Subject: [Mini] Oil spitting After the fuel issues was sorted sorted and the clutch keeps working fine with the washer installed, it was time for the Van to think of another symptom to come up with. First it tried to impress me with a fairly lack of improvement in bhp or torque (+ 4 and + 10 after fitting the charger), but as that did not work, it started to throw out the engine oil. Although initially not directly a problem, I had a look at where all that oil was coming from. >From the pattern it looked like it was being pushed out of the dipstick hole. The stick was not really sticking anymore; just lying in there. After I 'solved' this by plugging the dipstick hole, the oil found other ways to get out of the block. Somewhere behind the distributor and also a bit past the oilfiller cap. That did become a problem, and not just because it really DOES need oil, but also because it was now spitting it over the hot parts of the engine, resulting in nasty blue smoke getting into the cabin. Or at least I think that is what that smoke was. At least it is very clear it's spitting out the oil in places it shoudln't. Pictures as always can be found here; http://goo.gl/9400P Assuming the remaing crankcase breather (on the clutch side) was blocked I took it off the carb nd checked it. Unforunately (would have been an easy fix most likely) there is no blockage on either the engine nor carb side. Any hints as to what can be done to figure out where the problem is? Anne. _______________________________________________ Mini-list at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mini-list/belvenfish at yahoo.co.uk From john.bullas at gmail.com Fri Apr 26 11:42:27 2013 From: john.bullas at gmail.com (Dr John C Bullas) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:42:27 +0100 Subject: [Mini] Oil spitting In-Reply-To: <1366996180.14279.YahooMailNeo@web171205.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1366996180.14279.YahooMailNeo@web171205.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: If it is not run in then there will be fumes a plenty extra with a blower -- ==================== Sent using the Power of Greyskull and a Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini On 26 Apr 2013 18:13, wrote: > Hi Anne, > > I don't think you ought to block the crankcase breather, you have > obviously got too much crankcase pressure, so fit a hose into an open tin > to > get the fumes out, alternatively into the inlet manifold if you can or > similar. I don't remember what you said about the state of the engine, > could > be worn piston rings. > > HTH > > Dr. Gernot Vonhoegen > > BelvenServices > Senior > Translator Scientific / Technical > > Belven 55 > 4730 Raeren > Belgien > > Tel: > 0032/87/33 97 35 > > > ________________________________ > From: Anne > > To: Minilist (yahoo) ; Mini > List > Sent: Friday, 26 April 2013, 18:11 > Subject: > [Mini] Oil spitting > > > After the fuel issues was sorted sorted and the clutch > keeps working fine > with the washer installed, it was time for the Van to think > of another > symptom to come up with. > > First it tried to impress me with a > fairly lack of improvement in bhp or > torque (+ 4 and + 10 after fitting the > charger), but as that did not work, > it started to throw out the engine oil. > Although initially not directly a problem, I had a look at where all that > oil > was coming from. > From the pattern it looked like it was being pushed out of > the dipstick > hole. The stick was not really sticking anymore; just lying in > there. > > After I 'solved' this by plugging the dipstick hole, the oil found > other > ways to get out of the block. > Somewhere behind the distributor and also > a bit past the oilfiller cap. > That did become a problem, and not just because > it really DOES need oil, > but also because it was now spitting it over the hot > parts of the engine, > resulting in nasty blue smoke getting into the cabin. > > Or > at least I think that is what that smoke was. At least it is very clear > it's > spitting out the oil in places it shoudln't. > > Pictures as always can be found > here; > http://goo.gl/9400P > > Assuming the remaing crankcase breather (on the > clutch side) was blocked I > took it off the carb nd checked it. Unforunately > (would have been an easy > fix most likely) there is no blockage on either the > engine nor carb side. > > Any hints as to what can be done to figure out where > the problem is? > > Anne. > _______________________________________________ > Mini-list at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested > annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: > http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mini-list/belvenfish at yahoo.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > Mini-list at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mini-list/john.bullas at gmail.com From minilists at mibv.com Fri Apr 26 11:48:06 2013 From: minilists at mibv.com (Anne) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 19:48:06 +0200 Subject: [Mini] Oil spitting In-Reply-To: <1366996180.14279.YahooMailNeo@web171205.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1366996180.14279.YahooMailNeo@web171205.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The breather on the timing chain cover had to be removed because it's in the way of the charger belt. Not sure I somehting can be made to fit there... I hadn't considered the state of the engine yet :) Could very well be that it's just not up to the job as it already has done quite a few miles. So yes, it's quite 'run in' :) I guess the compression test will definately show that. BTW, Any of you ever done a blow by test and if so; is it of any use next to a compression test? Anne. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:09 PM, wrote: > Hi Anne, > > I don't think you ought to block the crankcase breather, you have > obviously got too much crankcase pressure, so fit a hose into an open tin > to get the fumes out, alternatively into the inlet manifold if you can or > similar. I don't remember what you said about the state of the engine, > could be worn piston rings. > > HTH > > Dr. Gernot Vonhoegen > > BelvenServices > Senior Translator Scientific / Technical > > Belven 55 > 4730 Raeren > Belgien > > Tel: 0032/87/33 97 35 > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Anne > *To:* Minilist (yahoo) ; Mini List < > mini-list at autox.team.net> > *Sent:* Friday, 26 April 2013, 18:11 > *Subject:* [Mini] Oil spitting > > After the fuel issues was sorted sorted and the clutch keeps working fine > with the washer installed, it was time for the Van to think of another > symptom to come up with. > > First it tried to impress me with a fairly lack of improvement in bhp or > torque (+ 4 and + 10 after fitting the charger), but as that did not work, > it started to throw out the engine oil. > > Although initially not directly a problem, I had a look at where all that > oil was coming from. > From the pattern it looked like it was being pushed out of the dipstick > hole. The stick was not really sticking anymore; just lying in there. > > After I 'solved' this by plugging the dipstick hole, the oil found other > ways to get out of the block. > Somewhere behind the distributor and also a bit past the oilfiller cap. > That did become a problem, and not just because it really DOES need oil, > but also because it was now spitting it over the hot parts of the engine, > resulting in nasty blue smoke getting into the cabin. > > Or at least I think that is what that smoke was. At least it is very clear > it's spitting out the oil in places it shoudln't. > > Pictures as always can be found here; > http://goo.gl/9400P > > Assuming the remaing crankcase breather (on the clutch side) was blocked I > took it off the carb nd checked it. Unforunately (would have been an easy > fix most likely) there is no blockage on either the engine nor carb side. > > Any hints as to what can be done to figure out where the problem is? > > Anne. > _______________________________________________ > Mini-list at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mini-list/belvenfish at yahoo.co.uk From peter_walsh05 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 26 12:53:34 2013 From: peter_walsh05 at yahoo.com (Peter Walsh) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:53:34 -0400 Subject: [Mini] Mini Oil In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 for the rings suggestion. Would also account for the lack of improvement torque. The blower may have hastened their demise. From tfrancis at gmail.com Fri Apr 26 12:57:39 2013 From: tfrancis at gmail.com (Tom Francis) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:57:39 -0400 Subject: [Mini] Oil spitting In-Reply-To: References: <1366996180.14279.YahooMailNeo@web171205.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Have you tried checking with your finger to see if there is an appreciable vacuum at the carb where the breather goes on? On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Anne wrote: > The breather on the timing chain cover had to be removed because it's in > the way of the charger belt. > Not sure I somehting can be made to fit there... > > I hadn't considered the state of the engine yet :) > Could very well be that it's just not up to the job as it already has done > quite a few miles. > So yes, it's quite 'run in' :) > > I guess the compression test will definately show that. > > BTW, Any of you ever done a blow by test and if so; is it of any use next > to a compression test? > > Anne. > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:09 PM, wrote: > > > Hi Anne, > > > > I don't think you ought to block the crankcase breather, you have > > obviously got too much crankcase pressure, so fit a hose into an open tin > > to get the fumes out, alternatively into the inlet manifold if you can or > > similar. I don't remember what you said about the state of the engine, > > could be worn piston rings. > > > > HTH > > > > Dr. Gernot Vonhoegen > > > > BelvenServices > > Senior Translator Scientific / Technical > > > > Belven 55 > > 4730 Raeren > > Belgien > > > > Tel: 0032/87/33 97 35 > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Anne > > *To:* Minilist (yahoo) ; Mini List < > > mini-list at autox.team.net> > > *Sent:* Friday, 26 April 2013, 18:11 > > *Subject:* [Mini] Oil spitting > > > > After the fuel issues was sorted sorted and the clutch keeps working fine > > with the washer installed, it was time for the Van to think of another > > symptom to come up with. > > > > First it tried to impress me with a fairly lack of improvement in bhp or > > torque (+ 4 and + 10 after fitting the charger), but as that did not > work, > > it started to throw out the engine oil. > > > > Although initially not directly a problem, I had a look at where all that > > oil was coming from. > > From the pattern it looked like it was being pushed out of the dipstick > > hole. The stick was not really sticking anymore; just lying in there. > > > > After I 'solved' this by plugging the dipstick hole, the oil found other > > ways to get out of the block. > > Somewhere behind the distributor and also a bit past the oilfiller cap. > > That did become a problem, and not just because it really DOES need oil, > > but also because it was now spitting it over the hot parts of the engine, > > resulting in nasty blue smoke getting into the cabin. > > > > Or at least I think that is what that smoke was. At least it is very > clear > > it's spitting out the oil in places it shoudln't. > > > > Pictures as always can be found here; > > http://goo.gl/9400P > > > > Assuming the remaing crankcase breather (on the clutch side) was blocked > I > > took it off the carb nd checked it. Unforunately (would have been an easy > > fix most likely) there is no blockage on either the engine nor carb side. > > > > Any hints as to what can be done to figure out where the problem is? > > > > Anne. > > _______________________________________________ > > Mini-list at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mini-list/belvenfish at yahoo.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > Mini-list at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mini-list/tfrancis at gmail.com From joe at bcdef.net Fri Apr 26 13:35:56 2013 From: joe at bcdef.net (Joe Barbera) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:35:56 -0400 Subject: [Mini] Oil spitting In-Reply-To: <1366996180.14279.YahooMailNeo@web171205.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1366996180.14279.YahooMailNeo@web171205.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <34760618-C94A-46B1-A6CC-BC491992130A@bcdef.net> I ran a hose to an old Castrol oil can that is held to the bulk head with Velcro. Problem solved and it looks cool. Joe Sent from my iPad On Apr 26, 2013, at 1:09 PM, belvenfish at yahoo.co.uk wrote: > Hi Anne, > > I don't think you ought to block the crankcase breather, you have > obviously got too much crankcase pressure, so fit a hose into an open tin to > get the fumes out, alternatively into the inlet manifold if you can or > similar. I don't remember what you said about the state of the engine, could > be worn piston rings. > > HTH > > Dr. Gernot Vonhoegen > > BelvenServices > Senior > Translator Scientific / Technical > > Belven 55 > 4730 Raeren > Belgien > > Tel: > 0032/87/33 97 35 > > > ________________________________ > From: Anne > > To: Minilist (yahoo) ; Mini > List > Sent: Friday, 26 April 2013, 18:11 > Subject: > [Mini] Oil spitting > > > After the fuel issues was sorted sorted and the clutch > keeps working fine > with the washer installed, it was time for the Van to think > of another > symptom to come up with. > > First it tried to impress me with a > fairly lack of improvement in bhp or > torque (+ 4 and + 10 after fitting the > charger), but as that did not work, > it started to throw out the engine oil. > Although initially not directly a problem, I had a look at where all that > oil > was coming from. > From the pattern it looked like it was being pushed out of > the dipstick > hole. The stick was not really sticking anymore; just lying in > there. > > After I 'solved' this by plugging the dipstick hole, the oil found > other > ways to get out of the block. > Somewhere behind the distributor and also > a bit past the oilfiller cap. > That did become a problem, and not just because > it really DOES need oil, > but also because it was now spitting it over the hot > parts of the engine, > resulting in nasty blue smoke getting into the cabin. > > Or > at least I think that is what that smoke was. At least it is very clear > it's > spitting out the oil in places it shoudln't. > > Pictures as always can be found > here; > http://goo.gl/9400P > > Assuming the remaing crankcase breather (on the > clutch side) was blocked I > took it off the carb nd checked it. Unforunately > (would have been an easy > fix most likely) there is no blockage on either the > engine nor carb side. > > Any hints as to what can be done to figure out where > the problem is? > > Anne. > _______________________________________________ > Mini-list at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested > annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: > http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mini-list/belvenfish at yahoo.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > Mini-list at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mini-list/joe at bcdef.net From minilists at mibv.com Fri Apr 26 19:11:38 2013 From: minilists at mibv.com (Anne) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 03:11:38 +0200 Subject: [Mini] Oil spitting In-Reply-To: References: <1366996180.14279.YahooMailNeo@web171205.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Tom, I haven't tried, but just to make sure I understand; you mean remove the air filter, disconnect the breather hose hold my fingers in front of the carb, then atatch the hose again and check if there is suction from within the carb? Anne. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Tom Francis wrote: > Have you tried checking with your finger to see if there is an appreciable > vacuum at the carb where the breather goes on? > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Anne wrote: > >> The breather on the timing chain cover had to be removed because it's in >> the way of the charger belt. >> Not sure I somehting can be made to fit there... >> >> I hadn't considered the state of the engine yet :) >> Could very well be that it's just not up to the job as it already has done >> quite a few miles. >> So yes, it's quite 'run in' :) >> >> I guess the compression test will definately show that. >> >> BTW, Any of you ever done a blow by test and if so; is it of any use next >> to a compression test? >> >> Anne. >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:09 PM, wrote: >> >> > Hi Anne, >> > >> > I don't think you ought to block the crankcase breather, you have >> > obviously got too much crankcase pressure, so fit a hose into an open >> tin >> > to get the fumes out, alternatively into the inlet manifold if you can >> or >> > similar. I don't remember what you said about the state of the engine, >> > could be worn piston rings. >> > >> > HTH >> > >> > Dr. Gernot Vonhoegen >> > >> > BelvenServices >> > Senior Translator Scientific / Technical >> > >> > Belven 55 >> > 4730 Raeren >> > Belgien >> > >> > Tel: 0032/87/33 97 35 >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > *From:* Anne >> > *To:* Minilist (yahoo) ; Mini List < >> > mini-list at autox.team.net> >> > *Sent:* Friday, 26 April 2013, 18:11 >> > *Subject:* [Mini] Oil spitting >> > >> > After the fuel issues was sorted sorted and the clutch keeps working >> fine >> > with the washer installed, it was time for the Van to think of another >> > symptom to come up with. >> > >> > First it tried to impress me with a fairly lack of improvement in bhp or >> > torque (+ 4 and + 10 after fitting the charger), but as that did not >> work, >> > it started to throw out the engine oil. >> > >> > Although initially not directly a problem, I had a look at where all >> that >> > oil was coming from. >> > From the pattern it looked like it was being pushed out of the dipstick >> > hole. The stick was not really sticking anymore; just lying in there. >> > >> > After I 'solved' this by plugging the dipstick hole, the oil found other >> > ways to get out of the block. >> > Somewhere behind the distributor and also a bit past the oilfiller cap. >> > That did become a problem, and not just because it really DOES need oil, >> > but also because it was now spitting it over the hot parts of the >> engine, >> > resulting in nasty blue smoke getting into the cabin. >> > >> > Or at least I think that is what that smoke was. At least it is very >> clear >> > it's spitting out the oil in places it shoudln't. >> > >> > Pictures as always can be found here; >> > http://goo.gl/9400P >> > >> > Assuming the remaing crankcase breather (on the clutch side) was >> blocked I >> > took it off the carb nd checked it. Unforunately (would have been an >> easy >> > fix most likely) there is no blockage on either the engine nor carb >> side. >> > >> > Any hints as to what can be done to figure out where the problem is? >> > >> > Anne. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Mini-list at autox.team.net >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mini-list/belvenfish at yahoo.co.uk >> _______________________________________________ >> Mini-list at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: >> http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mini-list/tfrancis at gmail.com From minilists at mibv.com Sat Apr 27 19:38:27 2013 From: minilists at mibv.com (Anne) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 03:38:27 +0200 Subject: [Mini] Oil spitting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Here is some more information; The result of the RR done last week, when it wasn't spitting oil as much yet. RR result: http://goo.gl/QHvbF And as you can see, while on the RR black (rich) and grey (no idea :)) smoke came out, not blue or white though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpT_NhzMEEE If I recall correctly the engine was build in 2000 after the IMM trip. It's a 1293 with Stage 2 unleaded head (35/29), Hepolite 21253 and Balanced/x-drilled bottom end. Since then it must have done at the least 85k miles, so yes I was expecting it to fail at a certain point in time. As most likely will the gearbox which, apart from the dropgears and clutch, has been arnoud since 1997 and done close to 240k miles. I had hoped they wouldn't untill I had had some experience driving with the charger installed so I would have an idea on what could be an improvement. Anywhoooo, We'll do a compression test, and if a leak tester can be sourced also a blow-by test to see if the pistons/walls/rings are in good order. Based on the numbers the head may come off to inspect the inside visually. We'll also try to do a suction test of the carb, while driving. It shouldn't be to hard to run a tube inside. Unfortunately it'll have to wait till Monday as the DIY shop is about an hour from where I live (20min from where Arnoud lives), so I can't hop by easily to check or work on it. After doing the tests there most likely will be two choices; a. cylinders are not in good state This would mean the mid section (short?) of the engine will need to be replaced. Or would I need to consider changing the head at the same time? Is there an option that would be more suited for a charger, where I might even do without the decompression plate? I'm currently at 1293 and would not want to use a bigger bore than that. b. Change breather setup This may even be advisable if a. is done. I can run an additional hose from the dipstickhole and rocker cover and eventually add one to the mech pump plate a bit like John had on Coo. The question would be; would I run these to an oil catch tank with an air tight connection to the carb, as per usual? Because if the current set up with 1 hose to the carb does not get the fumes out of the engine fast enough, adding additional tubing but no additional suction will not change much. Or will it? Anne. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Anne wrote: > After the fuel issues was sorted sorted and the clutch keeps working fine > with the washer installed, it was time for the Van to think of another > symptom to come up with. > > First it tried to impress me with a fairly lack of improvement in bhp or > torque (+ 4 and + 10 after fitting the charger), but as that did not work, > it started to throw out the engine oil. > > Although initially not directly a problem, I had a look at where all that > oil was coming from. > From the pattern it looked like it was being pushed out of the dipstick > hole. The stick was not really sticking anymore; just lying in there. > > After I 'solved' this by plugging the dipstick hole, the oil found other > ways to get out of the block. > Somewhere behind the distributor and also a bit past the oilfiller cap. > That did become a problem, and not just because it really DOES need oil, > but also because it was now spitting it over the hot parts of the engine, > resulting in nasty blue smoke getting into the cabin. > > Or at least I think that is what that smoke was. At least it is very clear > it's spitting out the oil in places it shoudln't. > > Pictures as always can be found here; > http://goo.gl/9400P > > Assuming the remaing crankcase breather (on the clutch side) was blocked I > took it off the carb nd checked it. Unforunately (would have been an easy > fix most likely) there is no blockage on either the engine nor carb side. > > Any hints as to what can be done to figure out where the problem is? > > Anne. From minilists at mibv.com Sat Apr 27 19:40:56 2013 From: minilists at mibv.com (Anne) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 03:40:56 +0200 Subject: [Mini] Oil spitting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Forgot to add this link, scroll down a bit to see the pistons and bores http://goo.gl/KaDgS Anne. On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Anne wrote: > Here is some more information; > > The result of the RR done last week, when it wasn't spitting oil as much > yet. > RR result: http://goo.gl/QHvbF > > And as you can see, while on the RR black (rich) and grey (no idea :)) > smoke came out, not blue or white though > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpT_NhzMEEE > > If I recall correctly the engine was build in 2000 after the IMM trip. > It's a 1293 with Stage 2 unleaded head (35/29), Hepolite 21253 > and Balanced/x-drilled bottom end. > Since then it must have done at the least 85k miles, so yes I was > expecting it to fail at a certain point in time. > As most likely will the gearbox which, apart from the dropgears and > clutch, has been arnoud since 1997 and done close to 240k miles. > I had hoped they wouldn't untill I had had some experience driving with > the charger installed so I would have an idea on what could be an > improvement. > Anywhoooo, > > > We'll do a compression test, and if a leak tester can be sourced also a > blow-by test to see if the pistons/walls/rings are in good order. > Based on the numbers the head may come off to inspect the inside visually. > > We'll also try to do a suction test of the carb, while driving. > It shouldn't be to hard to run a tube inside. > > Unfortunately it'll have to wait till Monday as the DIY shop is about an > hour from where I live (20min from where Arnoud lives), so I can't hop by > easily to check or work on it. > > After doing the tests there most likely will be two choices; > > a. cylinders are not in good state > > This would mean the mid section (short?) of the engine will need to be > replaced. > Or would I need to consider changing the head at the same time? > > Is there an option that would be more suited for a charger, where I might > even do without the decompression plate? > I'm currently at 1293 and would not want to use a bigger bore than that. > > > > b. Change breather setup > > This may even be advisable if a. is done. > > I can run an additional hose from the dipstickhole and rocker cover and > eventually add one to the mech pump plate a bit like John had on Coo. > > The question would be; would I run these to an oil catch tank with an air > tight connection to the carb, as per usual? > Because if the current set up with 1 hose to the carb does not get the > fumes out of the engine fast enough, adding additional tubing but no > additional suction will not change much. > > Or will it? > > Anne. > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Anne wrote: > >> After the fuel issues was sorted sorted and the clutch keeps working fine >> with the washer installed, it was time for the Van to think of another >> symptom to come up with. >> >> First it tried to impress me with a fairly lack of improvement in bhp or >> torque (+ 4 and + 10 after fitting the charger), but as that did not work, >> it started to throw out the engine oil. >> >> Although initially not directly a problem, I had a look at where all that >> oil was coming from. >> From the pattern it looked like it was being pushed out of the dipstick >> hole. The stick was not really sticking anymore; just lying in there. >> >> After I 'solved' this by plugging the dipstick hole, the oil found other >> ways to get out of the block. >> Somewhere behind the distributor and also a bit past the oilfiller cap. >> That did become a problem, and not just because it really DOES need oil, >> but also because it was now spitting it over the hot parts of the engine, >> resulting in nasty blue smoke getting into the cabin. >> >> Or at least I think that is what that smoke was. At least it is very >> clear it's spitting out the oil in places it shoudln't. >> >> Pictures as always can be found here; >> http://goo.gl/9400P >> >> Assuming the remaing crankcase breather (on the clutch side) was blocked >> I took it off the carb nd checked it. Unforunately (would have been an easy >> fix most likely) there is no blockage on either the engine nor carb side. >> >> Any hints as to what can be done to figure out where the problem is? >> >> Anne.