<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Yeah, you can see the VIN plate Barney shows is identical to the early MGB plate, with the same type of screw. Note that the screw heads are not painted body color, since they are affixed after the body is painted. They seem to have been black, although the originals are generally rusty.<div><br></div><div>There are rivets on the engine number plate, but that’s a different issue — those rivets can't be used in sheet metal.</div><div><br></div><div>There may be pop rivets on the body number tag, but there is no point in removing these tags, since they are painted with the body.</div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div>
--<br>Max Heim<br>'66 MGB
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Nov 11, 2024, at 11:02 AM, lon1950@me.com wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); margin: 0px; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">When in doubt trust Barney.</div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); margin: 0px; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><a href="https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/buying/buy101d.htm" id="OWA0eb43785-c41d-dc35-dbb0-6889d47c00c1" class="OWAAutoLink" title="https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/buying/buy101d.htm" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="0" style="margin: 0px;">https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/buying/buy101d.htm</a></div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div id="appendonsend" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"></div><hr tabindex="-1" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; display: inline-block; width: 667.375px;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;"></span><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, November 11, 2024 12:02 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>mgs@autox.team.net <mgs@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Mgs] rivets or ?</font><div> </div></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; line-break: after-white-space;">I’m pretty sure they used small roundhead Phillips screws. That’s what is used on early MGBs.<div><br></div><div>They didn’t rivet the VIN tag until it became a Federal requirement in January 1969.</div><div><br></div><div>This image shows the type of screw used in 66-67, at least (although I believe this VIN tag is actually a fake, but that’s neither here nor there).</div><div><br></div><div><span id="cid:D919A4D3-783F-43E3-9F7C-D9D8FD828EE5"><IMG_0126.jpg></span><br id="x_lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div>--<br>Max Heim<br>'66 MGB<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Nov 11, 2024, at 9:28 AM, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:</div><br class="x_Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div class="x_WordSection1" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span>I’m about to install the serial number/vin/etc plates on my 58 MGA. 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