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    <p>Did any MGAs leave the factory with a tach?  Early MGBs had a rev
      counter before they got the tach.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 31/07/2023 21:21, Eric Russell
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">My guess is
          an MGA tach face (Jaeger) or perhaps MGA tach face & case
          was used with a different tach's internals. MGB tachs were
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">MGB tach for
          MGA is described here: <a
            href="http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/electric/et202c.htm"
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">EjR </div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at
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             1. mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb engine (dave northrup)<br>
             2. Re: mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb engine (Max Heim)<br>
             3. Re: mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb engine (Paul Hunt)<br>
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          Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 00:22:55 +0000<br>
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          Subject: [Mgs] mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb engine<br>
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          Negative ground, car runs smoothly, need to install the
          electric tach which supposedly was previously installed in
          this car and working.<br>
          <br>
          On the back view, what hooks up where?  I am pretty sure the
          tab, and the screw, are ground.<br>
          <br>
          The other two - one needs to go to power and the other to the
          coil.  I think one is a female bullet connector; the other is
          male.  Which goes to power and which to the coil?<br>
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          Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 17:52:40 -0700<br>
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          Subject: Re: [Mgs] mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb engine<br>
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          Hmm, the back of that tach case has obviously been modified.
          Are you sure it still contains the matching internals? I say
          this because for 20 years I ran my Mk. I MGB with the original
          tach case, faceplate & needle, but with a cheap auto parts
          store mini-tach inside the case. The only modifications were
          two small screw holes to attach the mechanism.<br>
          <br>
          An original MGB Mk. I tach would have had a loop in the white
          wire, attached to the back of the case with a thumb nut and a
          thin U-shaped brass bracket. I am not seeing that on yours.<br>
          <br>
          Actually, I guess it is unclear whether you are talking about
          an MGA tach or an early MGB tach...<br>
          <br>
          --<br>
          Max Heim<br>
          '66 MGB<br>
          <br>
          > On Jul 30, 2023, at 5:22 PM, dave northrup <<a
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          wrote:<br>
          > <br>
          > Negative ground, car runs smoothly, need to install the
          electric tach which supposedly was previously installed in
          this car and working.<br>
          >  <br>
          > On the back view, what hooks up where?  I am pretty sure
          the tab, and the screw, are ground.<br>
          >  <br>
          > The other two ? one needs to go to power and the other to
          the coil.  I think one is a female bullet connector; the other
          is male.  Which goes to power and which to the coil?<br>
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          Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 08:38:26 +0100<br>
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          Subject: Re: [Mgs] mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb engine<br>
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          Not an MGB reference number, it looks like it has later
          internals than <br>
          but would still be the current-operated type i.e. RVI where
          the power to <br>
          the coil comes via the tach.? The ignition switch would be
          connected to <br>
          the male bullet and the female bullet to the coil.? 12v (also
          from the <br>
          ignition) to the spade and earth to the case.? When used on
          the MGB <br>
          there were separate wires from the ignition switch to the
          spade and to <br>
          the male bullet but you can tee from one to the other rather
          than <br>
          running a separate wire.<br>
          <br>
          It would have been helpful to see the top half of the dial
          where it <br>
          might have shown RVI and what polarity it was.? I suspect it
          would show <br>
          positive earth, but those electronics would have been used
          with negative <br>
          earth in an MGB for example so it looks like it has been
          converted by <br>
          swapping the guts instead of swapping the wires round
          internally.? If <br>
          that tach was used after the car was converted to negative
          earth it <br>
          would make sense.<br>
          <br>
          PaulH.<br>
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          On 31/07/2023 01:22, dave northrup wrote:<br>
          ><br>
          > Negative ground, car runs smoothly, need to install the
          electric tach <br>
          > which supposedly was previously installed in this car and
          working.<br>
          ><br>
          > On the back view, what hooks up where?? I am pretty sure
          the tab, and <br>
          > the screw, are ground.<br>
          ><br>
          > The other two ? one needs to go to power and the other to
          the coil.? I <br>
          > think one is a female bullet connector; the other is
          male.? Which goes <br>
          > to power and which to the coil?<br>
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