<div dir="ltr"><div>For my mandatory MG content: I used to tow my boat (a Laser at the time, but perhaps also the Fireball) behind an MG Metro. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Simon<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 4:13 AM Robert's New iPad <<a href="mailto:mgbobh@gmail.com">mgbobh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">   Fireballs are hot boats, fun to sail.  I tried, but failed, to get a class established in CT.  </div><div dir="ltr">   When I taught sailing, back then, my encouragement to the non-winners was that the race winners rarely learned much, but that those behind had many examples of better sailing.</div><div dir="ltr">   Mandatory MG content:  My TD towed a Penguin dinghy on a trailer for short distances, and an MGB towed a Laser dinghy many miles. </div><div dir="ltr">   I had to look up the VJ dinghy.   Aussies sail harder than we do. That is a fast boat, large sail plan, looks to be a hoot.</div><div dir="ltr">Bob</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Jun 30, 2021, at 12:32 AM, Simon Matthews <<a href="mailto:simon.d.matthews@gmail.com" target="_blank">simon.d.matthews@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>If we are talking racing dinghies, I once came 6th in the US Fireball national championships. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Simon</div><div>P.S. There were 7 boats in the competition. <br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 8:39 AM Barrie Robinson <<a href="mailto:barrob@bell.net" target="_blank">barrob@bell.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div>
    <font size="-1"><font face="Arial">I raced a home built VJ,
        Australia's two person dingy, for a season.  It was offered to
        me by the chap who built it, and subjected to the condition I
        took his daughter as second person.   She was a scorcher and I
        had no qualms having her as my partner.    The sails where made
        by the bloke's wife and were marginally better than wet toast.  
        I was awarded a cup by the club for being last every race. The
        daughter and  I became firm friends and I visited her many times
        when she went to the Sadlers Wells Ballet School UK - she was a
        ballerina....... Not a "Flying Dutchman" but an "Iona".   Oh,
        for submission endorsement...I was driving an MG TD in those
        days!<br>
        <br>
        Barrie<br>
      </font></font><br>
    <div>On 6/28/2021 6:20 PM, Robert's New iPad
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">    He is in USA, though we would like to think the
        Flying Dutchman is you.</div>
      <div dir="ltr">    Years ago, I sailed a two-person dinghy named
        Flying Dutchman.  Nice boats, fast and fun.</div>
      <div dir="ltr">Bob</div>
      <div dir="ltr"><br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr"><br>
        On Jun 28, 2021, at 2:51 PM, <<a href="mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl" target="_blank">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>>
        <<a href="mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl" target="_blank">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>> wrote:<br>
        <br>
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        <div dir="ltr">
          
          
          
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Now, I
                wonder who this Flying Dutchman is! <u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Not me!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Cheers,
                <u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Hans -
                mostly on wired wheels = 71 BGT, his race bike or one of
                his three seventies Puch mopeds<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
            <div>
              <div style="border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm">
                <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Van:</b> Mgs <<a href="mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
                  <b>Namens </b>dave<br>
                  <b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 24 juni 2021 15:24<br>
                  <b>Aan:</b> 'mglist' <<a href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">mgs@autox.team.net</a>><br>
                  <b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump<u></u><u></u></p>
              </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">According to The
                Flying Dutchman, self styled water pump expert, the
                water pumps these days are crap.  If you want real
                quality, have him rebuild one for you.  it will last. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><a href="http://water-pump-rebuilders.com/" target="_blank">http://water-pump-rebuilders.com/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Sadly,
                Racestorations in England makes a billet aluminum water
                pump for that other brand.  Not for us.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
            <div>
              <div style="border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm">
                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Mgs <<a href="mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert's New iPad<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:01 AM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> Osborne, Paul <<a href="mailto:paul@ece.rochester.edu" target="_blank">paul@ece.rochester.edu</a>><br>
                    <b>Cc:</b> mglist <<a href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">mgs@autox.team.net</a>><br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump<u></u><u></u></span></p>
              </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">     One imagines,
                  seemingly foolishly, that the low production costs in
                  a certain eastern nation would be so low that
                  additional quality could be built included at an
                  acceptable selling price.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">     One is so
                  often disappointed.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Bob<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span lang="EN-US"><br>
                  On Jun 24, 2021, at 8:52 AM, Osborne, Paul <<a href="mailto:paul@ece.rochester.edu" target="_blank">paul@ece.rochester.edu</a>>
                  wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Not to sure if I
                    would complain about the price if I received a
                    quality not have ing to return it 3 times to get a
                    good one!!!  Part.    Why can’t we just get good
                    part.  <u></u><u></u></span></p>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Paul<u></u><u></u></span></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span lang="EN-US">Paul Osborne<br>
                            Department of Electrical and Computer Eng<br>
                            University of Rochester <br>
                            201 Hopeman Building RC<br>
                            Rochester NY 14627<u></u><u></u></span></p>
                      </blockquote>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> 
                           585-275-5226<u></u><u></u></span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
                    </div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
                    <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On Jun
                            24, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Dan DiBiase <<a href="mailto:dan.dibiase@gmail.com" target="_blank">dan.dibiase@gmail.com</a>>
                            wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Right.
                              And if they were we'd be b*tching about
                              the price! <u></u><u></u></span></p>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dan
                                D<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">'76B,
                                '65B<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Central
                                NJ USA<br clear="all">
                                <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                            </div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On
                                Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:51 AM PaulHunt73
                                <<a href="mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com" target="_blank">paulhunt73@virginmedia.com</a>>
                                wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I
                                    would never expect it to be.  How
                                    much stuff like this is made in
                                    England these days, or America for
                                    that matter?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
                              </div>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">----- Original
                                      Message ----- <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Just received my new
                                      water pump for my 1969 MGB GT from
                                      Moss.  Made in England, NOT! <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Mike MacLean<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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