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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=NL link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>You’re correct Simon.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>On top of that – the loudness was needed, because the Citroën 2CV makes a lot of noise by itself!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I have had a 1970 2CV4 in 1974 – was nice to drive this as a youngster.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Nothing in between the driver and passenger </span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>😊</span><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Umbrella like gearstick was in the dashboard.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hans<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>71 BGT<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b>Van:</b> Simon Matthews <simon.d.matthews@gmail.com> <br><b>Verzonden:</b> maandag 4 januari 2021 16:52<br><b>Aan:</b> Hans Duinhoven <h.duinhoven@planet.nl><br><b>CC:</b> Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>; Robert's New iPad <mgbobh@gmail.com>; Mglist <mgs@autox.team.net><br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Turn Signal Stalk<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Citroens of that era needed a loud warning, because the indicators were not self-cancelling. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Simon<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 1:10 AM <<a href="mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB>The early seventies Citroën 2CV had a very loud almost deafening click sound. Nobody forgot to cancel the stalk.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB>Cheers, Hans</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB>’71 BGT</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Van:</b> Mgs <<a href="mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>Namens </b>Michael MacLean<br><b>Verzonden:</b> zondag 3 januari 2021 23:59<br><b>Aan:</b> Robert's New iPad <<a href="mailto:mgbobh@gmail.com" target="_blank">mgbobh@gmail.com</a>><br><b>CC:</b> Mglist <<a href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">mgs@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Turn Signal Stalk<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>The "beeper" is a great idea.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Mike M</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-5350170426688396703yahoo_quoted_0391157218"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>On Sunday, January 3, 2021, 2:41:47 PM PST, Robert's New iPad <<a href="mailto:mgbobh@gmail.com" target="_blank">mgbobh@gmail.com</a>> wrote: </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div id="gmail-m_-5350170426688396703yiv3136677636"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Hi Mike,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> It is supposed to be self-cancelling, though that does require about 1/4 turn of the steering wheel to engage the cancelling mechanism.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> If you remove the steering column cover, a bit of a trick in itself, you will see from the left the steering column. On it should be a black spring clip that has a squared bump shape. That bump should be on same plane as the “C” shaped plastic claws on the turn signal control. With wheels straight ahead and the steering wheel centred, that bump should be mid-way between the two claws.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> The way it is supposed to work is that when the turn lever is set for turns, the spring clip, as it swings around on the column, contacts one of the C claws, dislodging it from where it is parked, and the system cancels.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> On most roads in CT, the radius of turns at intersections is great enough that the self-cancel does not engage. I put an inexpensive beeper into the circuit at the flasher unit, as the little indicator lights are dim.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> Some have fitted brighter LEDs in place of the signal indicators. Having bloodied myself sufficiently when installing LEDs into the instruments, I will leave the signal indicators to some distant time in the future when I might have the dashboard out. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> It’s my opinion that the easiest way to address your question is to ensure that the cancelling device is set properly and to install a sound-making device/beeper, then to appreciate that our roads are wider and intersections built with greater radius than those in the UK when these cancelling devices were thought to be an improvement over the pneumatic, time-sensitive devices used in TDs, TFs and MGAs.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Bob</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="gmail-m_-5350170426688396703yiv3136677636yqt87853"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><br>On Jan 3, 2021, at 3:24 PM, Michael MacLean <<a href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net" target="_blank">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Just wondering. Is the turn signal stalk on my 69 MGB GT supposed to be self canceling? As it is right now, I have to remember to put it back in the middle position after making a turn. This is something I am used to because my Bugeye has a three position switch on the dash that you have to click back to the center position after making a turn. On the Bugeye though, it's a little bit easier because there is a huge bright green light right in front of your face on the dash. In fact, you can't ignore it at night it is so bright blinking at you. Not so with the MG. The lights are two little dim illuminated arrows. While they are somewhat noticeable at night, you just don't notice these lights in the daytime. Sorry, just sitting around on a Sunday morning and needed something to complain about.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div id="gmail-m_-5350170426688396703yiv3136677636yMail_cursorElementTracker_1609705432469"><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Mike MacLean</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="gmail-m_-5350170426688396703yiv3136677636yMail_cursorElementTracker_1609705443149"><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>1969 MGB GT</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="gmail-m_-5350170426688396703yiv3136677636yMail_cursorElementTracker_1609705453045"><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>1960 Bugeye</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="gmail-m_-5350170426688396703yiv3136677636yMail_cursorElementTracker_1609705469792"><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>1956 Austin Healey BN2</span><o:p></o:p></p><div id="gmail-m_-5350170426688396703yiv3136677636ymail_android_signature"><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><a href="https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature" target="_blank">Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________<br><br><a href="mailto:Mgs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">Mgs@autox.team.net</a><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual donation $12.75<br><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh@gmail.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-5350170426688396703DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellspacing=3 cellpadding=0 style='border:none;border-top:solid #D3D4DE 1.0pt'><tr><td width=55 style='width:41.25pt;border:none;padding:13.5pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient" target="_blank"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=46 height=29 style='width:.4833in;height:.3in' id="_x0000_i1025" src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif"></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=470 style='width:352.5pt;border:none;padding:12.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.5pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#41424E'>Virusvrij. <a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient" target="_blank"><span style='color:#4453EA'>www.avast.com</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br><br><a href="mailto:Mgs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">Mgs@autox.team.net</a><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual donation $12.75<br><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/simon.d.matthews@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/simon.d.matthews@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>