<div dir="ltr"><div>Citroens of that era needed a loud warning, because the indicators were not self-cancelling. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Simon<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 1:10 AM <<a href="mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" lang="NL"><div class="gmail-m_-5350170426688396703WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The early seventies Citroën 2CV had a very loud almost deafening click sound. Nobody forgot to cancel the stalk.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Cheers, Hans<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">’71 BGT<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Van:</b> Mgs <<a href="mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>Namens </b>Michael MacLean<br><b>Verzonden:</b> zondag 3 januari 2021 23:59<br><b>Aan:</b> Robert's New iPad <<a href="mailto:mgbobh@gmail.com" target="_blank">mgbobh@gmail.com</a>><br><b>CC:</b> Mglist <<a href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">mgs@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Turn Signal Stalk<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The "beeper" is a great idea.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Mike M<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-5350170426688396703yahoo_quoted_0391157218"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">On Sunday, January 3, 2021, 2:41:47 PM PST, Robert's New iPad <<a href="mailto:mgbobh@gmail.com" target="_blank">mgbobh@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><div id="gmail-m_-5350170426688396703yiv3136677636"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Hi Mike,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> It is supposed to be self-cancelling, though that does require about 1/4 turn of the steering wheel to engage the cancelling mechanism.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> If you remove the steering column cover, a bit of a trick in itself, you will see from the left the steering column. On it should be a black spring clip that has a squared bump shape. That bump should be on same plane as the “C” shaped plastic claws on the turn signal control. With wheels straight ahead and the steering wheel centred, that bump should be mid-way between the two claws.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> The way it is supposed to work is that when the turn lever is set for turns, the spring clip, as it swings around on the column, contacts one of the C claws, dislodging it from where it is parked, and the system cancels.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> On most roads in CT, the radius of turns at intersections is great enough that the self-cancel does not engage. I put an inexpensive beeper into the circuit at the flasher unit, as the little indicator lights are dim.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> Some have fitted brighter LEDs in place of the signal indicators. Having bloodied myself sufficiently when installing LEDs into the instruments, I will leave the signal indicators to some distant time in the future when I might have the dashboard out. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> It’s my opinion that the easiest way to address your question is to ensure that the cancelling device is set properly and to install a sound-making device/beeper, then to appreciate that our roads are wider and intersections built with greater radius than those in the UK when these cancelling devices were thought to be an improvement over the pneumatic, time-sensitive devices used in TDs, TFs and MGAs.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Bob<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div id="gmail-m_-5350170426688396703yiv3136677636yqt87853"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><br>On Jan 3, 2021, at 3:24 PM, Michael MacLean <<a href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net" target="_blank">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Just wondering. Is the turn signal stalk on my 69 MGB GT supposed to be self canceling? As it is right now, I have to remember to put it back in the middle position after making a turn. This is something I am used to because my Bugeye has a three position switch on the dash that you have to click back to the center position after making a turn. On the Bugeye though, it's a little bit easier because there is a huge bright green light right in front of your face on the dash. In fact, you can't ignore it at night it is so bright blinking at you. Not so with the MG. The lights are two little dim illuminated arrows. While they are somewhat noticeable at night, you just don't notice these lights in the daytime. Sorry, just sitting around on a Sunday morning and needed something to complain about.<u></u><u></u></span></p><div id="gmail-m_-5350170426688396703yiv3136677636yMail_cursorElementTracker_1609705432469"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Mike MacLean<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="gmail-m_-5350170426688396703yiv3136677636yMail_cursorElementTracker_1609705443149"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">1969 MGB GT<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="gmail-m_-5350170426688396703yiv3136677636yMail_cursorElementTracker_1609705453045"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">1960 Bugeye<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="gmail-m_-5350170426688396703yiv3136677636yMail_cursorElementTracker_1609705469792"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">1956 Austin Healey BN2<u></u><u></u></span></p><div id="gmail-m_-5350170426688396703yiv3136677636ymail_android_signature"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href="https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature" target="_blank">Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">_______________________________________________<br><br><a href="mailto:Mgs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">Mgs@autox.team.net</a><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual donation $12.75<br><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh@gmail.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-5350170426688396703DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br> <table style="border-top:1px solid rgb(211,212,222)">
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