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    <p>Bob,</p>
    <p>Your radio story reminds me of the following:</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>1. During half of my student days, I drove a 1972 Sunbeam Sceptre
      (similar to a Hillman Hunter, you can google that).</p>
    <p>    That was until 1981, when I graduated and started working. In
      those days, it was not done, as a sales rep, to drive a 10-yr old
      car.</p>
    <p>    So I bought a Peugeot 504, archetypical for a sales rep in
      those days.</p>
    <p>    Since the Sunbeam's manufacturer had gone belly up and, by
      consequence, the resale value was very very low, <br>
    </p>
    <p>   and the car looked still quite good, I decided to not trade it
      in but just keep it.</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>    Fast Forward 30+ years: I got the car running again and
      nowadays make occasional trips with it, <br>
    </p>
    <p>    like e.g. a camping trip to the South of England with my son.
        <br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>    Three things that I noticed when I drove this car first time
      after so many years:</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>   a. The steering wheel rim is very thin;</p>
    <p>   b. Panorama view: no thick posts between windscreen and doors
      etc.</p>
    <p>   c. The (Grundig, upmarket for its days) AM/FM monaural radio
      sounds really terrible when compared to more modern gear.</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>2. In the late seventies, I worked for three months as a trainee
      at Televerket, the Swedish telephone company.</p>
    <p>     Of course, my internship required that I do something
      scientific, but due to poor organisation by my employer, a state
      enterprise, <br>
    </p>
    <p>     I could not work for weeks at the project that I came for.</p>
    <p>    So, colleagues came by and asked me if I could repair their
      record players, stereo's, car radios etcetera. <br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>    Now, this was not a skill I had any experience with, but at
      that age you learn quickly.</p>
    <p>    These were the days before Internet or even telefax. <br>
    </p>
    <p>    But, when you grab a telephone and ask the manufacturer to
      send some circuit diagrams by mail, <br>
    </p>
    <p>    they were really very eager to assist such an important
      institution like the Swedish Telecom authority.</p>
    <p>    So, I repaired a lot of electronics stuff then, and learned a
      lot in the process.</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>    One day, I had a small problem with the Sunbeam, no output
      from the alternator (Lucas 16 ACR). <br>
    </p>
    <p>    Not very nice to  work on, when it is minus 25 degrees
      Centigrade outside.</p>
    <p>    No problem: I could easily drive the car into the Televerket
      laboratory after working hours <br>
    </p>
    <p>    and replace the carbon brushes that my brother had sent me by
      mail from Holland.</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>Cheers</p>
    <p>Bert  <br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
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    <p><br>
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    <p><br>
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    <p><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 30-11-2020 om 14:17 schreef Robert's
      New iPad:<br>
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      cite="mid:B0EBE90D-1809-4DAB-994E-84959559B0ED@gmail.com">
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      <div dir="ltr">   The rebuilt starter should be on its way to
        another 40 years of reliable operation.  </div>
      <div dir="ltr">   My 1972 ‘British Leyland’ radio, AM/FM,
        monophonic, was taken to a repair shop Saturday for help. It had
        emitted a hot-electronics smell and gone silent a week before.
         Some research found that Motorola made radios for US dealers to
        install in Jaguars, Triumphs and MGs.  This seems to be one, and
        the shop may be able to restore this one to its original
        low-quality sound.</div>
      <div dir="ltr">Bob</div>
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        On Nov 30, 2020, at 8:10 AM, <<a
          href="mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl" moz-do-not-send="true">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>>
        <<a href="mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl"
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Here’s the latest
                update.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">A local
                workshop has overhauled the starter. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">New
                brushes, commutator flattened on a lathe etc. new
                bearings and Bendix.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Placed
                the starter back in the GT and it runs as new – starts
                well again!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">A nice
                tour in the late November sun was the reward.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">As salt
                has been sprayed over the roads after the first freezing
                nights, the GT remains inside till spring.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Battery
                on the tender…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Time for
                the other classics (3 Puch mopeds from the early
                seventies).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Thank
                you for all good advices. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Hans<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">71 BGT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Van:</b> Mgs <<a
                    href="mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
                  <b>Namens </b><a href="mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a><br>
                  <b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 19 november 2020 20:12<br>
                  <b>Aan:</b> 'Richard Lindsay' <<a
                    href="mailto:richardolindsay@gmail.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">richardolindsay@gmail.com</a>><br>
                  <b>CC:</b> 'mglist' <<a
                    href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>><br>
                  <b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Slow cranking, was
                  Siphoning Gas<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">I have
                tested the starter outside of the car. Bendix works
                well, but motor runs poorly with lots of sparking over
                the brushes. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">So I
                took your advice and it is now at the local repair shop.
                They’ll disassemble it first, in order to see it is
                feasible to do a repair, or a new starter is better.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Hans<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Van:</b> Mgs <<a
                  href="mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
                <b>Namens </b>Richard Lindsay<br>
                <b>Verzonden:</b> zondag 15 november 2020 14:57<br>
                <b>Aan:</b> Hans Duinhoven <<a
                  href="mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>><br>
                <b>CC:</b> mglist <<a
                  href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>>;
                MGB-Yahoo <<a href="mailto:mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com</a>><br>
                <b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Slow cranking, was Siphoning
                Gas<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">My vote is to have your local shop do
                the rebuild. Turn the commutator on the lathe and
                replace the brushes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 7:48 AM <<a
                    href="mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>>
                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        lang="EN-GB">I measured the voltage on the posts
                        while cranking = 10,5 volts. It is on a digital
                        meter, so I wonder if that’s a good value.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        lang="EN-GB">The same value is measured on the
                        starter ingoing post.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        lang="EN-GB">So no tension loss on the
                        electrical circuits.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        lang="EN-GB"><br>
                        Now there is a discussion:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        lang="EN-GB">Repair the starter or buy a new
                        one.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        lang="EN-GB">High torque starter = € 325,00,
                        which is pricy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        lang="EN-GB">Original starter on exchange base =
                        € 200,00</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        lang="EN-GB">New starter Powerlite = € 239,00</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        lang="EN-GB">New starter looking like a Lucas
                        (white labelled) = € 135,00</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        lang="EN-GB"><a
href="https://www.octagonparts.nl/product-categorie/mgb/electrical-mgb/starting-system-mgb-electrical-mgb/"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.octagonparts.nl/product-categorie/mgb/electrical-mgb/starting-system-mgb-electrical-mgb/</a>
                      </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        lang="EN-GB"><a
                          href="https://www.angloparts.com/en/catalogues/part/26883/082.024"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.angloparts.com/en/catalogues/part/26883/082.024</a>
                      </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        lang="EN-GB">There is a local electrical car
                        parts repair shop, where the alternator has been
                        repaired +/- 10 years ago.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        lang="EN-GB">They did a good job.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        lang="EN-GB">I assume they can fix the starter
                        as well, but what is better – a new one
                        (Angloparts = € 152 or € 135,00 at octagonparts)
                        or have the original repaired…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        lang="EN-GB">Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        lang="EN-GB">Hans </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
                        1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>Van:</b>
                          PaulHunt73 <<a
                            href="mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">paulhunt73@virginmedia.com</a>>
                          <br>
                          <b>Verzonden:</b> dinsdag 10 november 2020
                          11:41<br>
                          <b>Aan:</b> <a
                            href="mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a><br>
                          <b>CC:</b> 'mglist' <<a
                            href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>>;
                          'MGB-Yahoo' <<a
                            href="mailto:mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com</a>><br>
                          <b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Slow cranking, was
                          Siphoning Gas<o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                            style="font-size:10.0pt">Yes, measure the
                            voltage right on the battery posts (adding
                            the two voltages together if twin 6v
                            batteries) when cranking, then compare that
                            with the voltage at the battery cable stud
                            on the solenoid and starter body when
                            cranking.  The difference between the two is
                            what is being lost in the connections, a
                            volt or so is normal but it shouldn't be
                            much more than that.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                            style="font-size:10.0pt">If you get much
                            less than 10v at the battery posts
                            then that is the problem.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                            style="font-size:10.0pt">PaulH.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid
                      black 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm
4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">-----
                            Original Message ----- </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:#E4E4E4"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"
                            lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                          lang="EN-GB">Next job is the slow starter
                          motor. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                          lang="EN-GB">I already cleaned the battery
                          posts clamps and the post of the battery to
                          chassis cable.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                          lang="EN-GB">Also cleaned thoroughly the
                          chassis to engine cable. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                          lang="EN-GB">Nothing helped so far.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                          lang="EN-GB">So next will be verifying the
                          battery voltage when cranking. I assume it
                          will be o.k. as the battery is new.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                          lang="EN-GB">Following step will be measuring
                          the voltage over the starter motor +12V to the
                          engine.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                          lang="EN-GB">When o.k., the starter is
                          suspect. As it never was overhauled, this is
                          logical.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                          lang="EN-GB">Nice winter job.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                          lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
                        1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>Van:</b>
                          Mgs <<a
                            href="mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
                          <b>Namens </b>Dan DiBiase<br>
                          <b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 22 oktober 2020
                          22:26<br>
                          <b>Aan:</b> Richard Lindsay <<a
                            href="mailto:richardolindsay@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">richardolindsay@gmail.com</a>><br>
                          <b>CC:</b> mglist <<a
                            href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>>;
                          MGB-Yahoo <<a
                            href="mailto:mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com</a>><br>
                          <b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Siphoning Gas<o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">OMG,
                          duh! Thanks to all that replied with this
                          excellent (and obvious, now!)
                          advice..............................<o:p></o:p></p>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Dan
                            D<br clear="all">
                            <o:p></o:p></p>
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a
href="http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/" target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                            Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 4:13 PM Richard Lindsay
                            <<a
                              href="mailto:richardolindsay@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">richardolindsay@gmail.com</a>>
                            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid
                          #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
                              had the same problem. I disconnected the
                              fuel hose, added a a long bit of hose and
                              with the coil disconnected, used the fuel
                              pump to pump old fuel into jugs.<o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                                Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:02 PM Dan DiBiase
                                <<a
                                  href="mailto:dan.dibiase@gmail.com"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">dan.dibiase@gmail.com</a>>
                                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <blockquote
                              style="border:none;border-left:solid
                              #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi
                                  all.... My '76B, which was off the
                                  road for 5 years, was recently
                                  returned to me from the shop. They
                                  added some new gas but did not siphon
                                  out the 5 year old gas (which was just
                                  under 1/2 tank when I had it towed in.
                                  The car is running pretty rough so I
                                  want to siphon out most of the gas
                                  before I fill it up. It is currently
                                  showing as just under 1/2 tank, so
                                  around 6 gallons or a little less
                                  (assuming gauge accuracy). <o:p></o:p></p>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
                                    was able to pump out about 2 gallons
                                    but am wondering if the interior of
                                    the tank is baffled, as I can't seem
                                    to move the hose beyond a certain
                                    area and it's not sucking up any
                                    additional gas. Would really like to
                                    remove a couple more gallons before
                                    I fill it up.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thx, <o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Dan
                                    D<o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">'76B- 
                                    Getting There<o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">'65B
                                    - Waiting It's Turn<o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Central
                                    NJ USA<br clear="all">
                                    <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a
href="http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/" target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">_______________________________________________<br>
                                <br>
                                <a href="mailto:Mgs@autox.team.net"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Mgs@autox.team.net</a><br>
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                            </blockquote>
                          </div>
                        </blockquote>
                      </div>
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                        id="m_-633492779099770990DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2">
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                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:13.5pt"><span
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                      <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center"
                        align="center">
                        <hr width="100%" size="2" align="center"></div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">_______________________________________________<br>
                        <br>
                        <a href="mailto:Mgs@autox.team.net"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Mgs@autox.team.net</a><br>
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                  </div>
                </div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>
                  <br>
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