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<p>Hans, Great to read that all is working fine again!</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 30-11-2020 om 14:10 schreef
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Here’s
the latest update.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">A local workshop has overhauled the starter. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">New brushes, commutator flattened on a lathe
etc. new bearings and Bendix.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Placed the starter back in the GT and it runs
as new – starts well again!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">A nice tour in the late November sun was the
reward.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">As salt has been sprayed over the roads after
the first freezing nights, the GT remains inside till
spring.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Battery on the tender…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Time for the other classics (3 Puch mopeds from
the early seventies).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Thank you for all good advices. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Hans<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">71 BGT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Van:</b> Mgs
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net"><mgs-bounces@autox.team.net></a> <b>Namens </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a><br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 19 november 2020 20:12<br>
<b>Aan:</b> 'Richard Lindsay'
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:richardolindsay@gmail.com"><richardolindsay@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>CC:</b> 'mglist' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"><mgs@autox.team.net></a><br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Slow cranking, was Siphoning
Gas<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">I have tested the starter outside of the car.
Bendix works well, but motor runs poorly with lots of
sparking over the brushes. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">So I took your advice and it is now at the
local repair shop. They’ll disassemble it first, in order to
see it is feasible to do a repair, or a new starter is
better.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Hans<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Van:</b> Mgs <<a
href="mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
<b>Namens </b>Richard Lindsay<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> zondag 15 november 2020 14:57<br>
<b>Aan:</b> Hans Duinhoven <<a
href="mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl" moz-do-not-send="true">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>><br>
<b>CC:</b> mglist <<a href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>>;
MGB-Yahoo <<a href="mailto:mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Slow cranking, was Siphoning Gas<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My vote is to have your local shop do the
rebuild. Turn the commutator on the lathe and replace the
brushes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 7:48 AM <<a
href="mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl"
moz-do-not-send="true">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">I measured the voltage on the posts
while cranking = 10,5 volts. It is on a digital
meter, so I wonder if that’s a good value.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">The same value is measured on the
starter ingoing post.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">So no tension loss on the electrical
circuits.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB"><br>
Now there is a discussion:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Repair the starter or buy a new one.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">High torque starter = € 325,00, which
is pricy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Original starter on exchange base = €
200,00</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">New starter Powerlite = € 239,00</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">New starter looking like a Lucas (white
labelled) = € 135,00</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB"><a
href="https://www.octagonparts.nl/product-categorie/mgb/electrical-mgb/starting-system-mgb-electrical-mgb/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.octagonparts.nl/product-categorie/mgb/electrical-mgb/starting-system-mgb-electrical-mgb/</a>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB"><a
href="https://www.angloparts.com/en/catalogues/part/26883/082.024"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.angloparts.com/en/catalogues/part/26883/082.024</a>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">There is a local electrical car parts
repair shop, where the alternator has been repaired
+/- 10 years ago.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">They did a good job.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">I assume they can fix the starter as
well, but what is better – a new one (Angloparts = €
152 or € 135,00 at octagonparts) or have the
original repaired…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Hans </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>Van:</b>
PaulHunt73 <<a
href="mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">paulhunt73@virginmedia.com</a>>
<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> dinsdag 10 november 2020 11:41<br>
<b>Aan:</b> <a
href="mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a><br>
<b>CC:</b> 'mglist' <<a
href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>>;
'MGB-Yahoo' <<a
href="mailto:mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Slow cranking, was
Siphoning Gas<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt">Yes, measure the
voltage right on the battery posts (adding the
two voltages together if twin 6v batteries) when
cranking, then compare that with the voltage at
the battery cable stud on the solenoid and
starter body when cranking. The difference
between the two is what is being lost in the
connections, a volt or so is normal but it
shouldn't be much more than that.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt">If you get much less
than 10v at the battery posts then that is the
problem.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt">PaulH.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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Original Message ----- </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Next job is the slow starter motor. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">I already cleaned the battery posts
clamps and the post of the battery to chassis
cable.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Also cleaned thoroughly the chassis
to engine cable. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Nothing helped so far.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">So next will be verifying the battery
voltage when cranking. I assume it will be o.k. as
the battery is new.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Following step will be measuring the
voltage over the starter motor +12V to the engine.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">When o.k., the starter is suspect. As
it never was overhauled, this is logical.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Nice winter job.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>Van:</b>
Mgs <<a
href="mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
<b>Namens </b>Dan DiBiase<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 22 oktober 2020 22:26<br>
<b>Aan:</b> Richard Lindsay <<a
href="mailto:richardolindsay@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">richardolindsay@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>CC:</b> mglist <<a
href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>>;
MGB-Yahoo <<a
href="mailto:mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Siphoning Gas<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">OMG,
duh! Thanks to all that replied with this
excellent (and obvious, now!)
advice..............................<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Dan
D<br clear="all">
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a
href="http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 4:13 PM Richard Lindsay
<<a href="mailto:richardolindsay@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">richardolindsay@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
had the same problem. I disconnected the fuel
hose, added a a long bit of hose and with the
coil disconnected, used the fuel pump to pump
old fuel into jugs.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:02 PM Dan DiBiase <<a
href="mailto:dan.dibiase@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">dan.dibiase@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi
all.... My '76B, which was off the road
for 5 years, was recently returned to me
from the shop. They added some new gas but
did not siphon out the 5 year old gas
(which was just under 1/2 tank when I had
it towed in. The car is running pretty
rough so I want to siphon out most of the
gas before I fill it up. It is currently
showing as just under 1/2 tank, so around
6 gallons or a little less (assuming gauge
accuracy). <o:p></o:p></p>
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was able to pump out about 2 gallons but
am wondering if the interior of the tank
is baffled, as I can't seem to move the
hose beyond a certain area and it's not
sucking up any additional gas. Would
really like to remove a couple more
gallons before I fill it up.<o:p></o:p></p>
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