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<DIV><FONT size=2>New stuff definitely not as good as old, especially anything
with rubber in it. As far as white goods barely lasting the warranty
period 'planned obsolescence' was a term that became current decades ago.
My Mum only ever had one vacuum cleaner that I first became aware of in the 50s,
also an Electrolux, she said it had been the most powerful one on the
market. It may have sucked well 50 years previously but couldn't
compare with a Bosch for example today, what her cleaner thought of it I don't
know. When she died a few years ago I sold it to a collector, still had
all the accessories, even the original rubber mains cable!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr> Similarly, the old Electrolux motor. Apparently
there are no motors to be had, so I bought a new one vacuum cleaner, another
Electrolux. Shop owner was son of the shop founder. He advised to not expect
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">I measured the voltage on the posts while
cranking = 10,5 volts. It is on a digital meter, so I wonder
if that’s a good value.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">The same value is measured on the starter
ingoing post.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">So no tension loss on the electrical circuits.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"><br>
Now there is a discussion:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Repair the starter or buy a new one.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">High torque starter = € 325,00, which is pricy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Original starter on exchange base = € 200,00<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">New starter Powerlite = € 239,00<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">New starter looking like a Lucas (white
labelled) = € 135,00<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"><a href="https://www.octagonparts.nl/product-categorie/mgb/electrical-mgb/starting-system-mgb-electrical-mgb/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.octagonparts.nl/product-categorie/mgb/electrical-mgb/starting-system-mgb-electrical-mgb/</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"><a href="https://www.angloparts.com/en/catalogues/part/26883/082.024" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.angloparts.com/en/catalogues/part/26883/082.024</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">There is a local electrical car parts repair
shop, where the alternator has been repaired +/- 10 years
ago.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">They did a good job.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">I assume they can fix the starter as well, but
what is better – a new one (Angloparts = € 152 or € 135,00
at octagonparts) or have the original repaired…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Hans <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Van:</b> PaulHunt73
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com"><paulhunt73@virginmedia.com></a> <br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> dinsdag 10 november 2020 11:41<br>
<b>Aan:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a><br>
<b>CC:</b> 'mglist' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"><mgs@autox.team.net></a>;
'MGB-Yahoo' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com"><mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com></a><br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Slow cranking, was Siphoning
Gas<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Yes, measure
the voltage right on the battery posts (adding the two
voltages together if twin 6v batteries) when cranking,
then compare that with the voltage at the battery cable
stud on the solenoid and starter body when cranking.
The difference between the two is what is being lost in
the connections, a volt or so is normal but it shouldn't
be much more than that.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">If you
get much less than 10v at the battery posts then that is
the problem.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">PaulH.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Next job is the slow starter motor. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">I already cleaned the battery posts clamps
and the post of the battery to chassis cable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Also cleaned thoroughly the chassis to engine
cable. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Nothing helped so far.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">So next will be verifying the battery voltage
when cranking. I assume it will be o.k. as the battery is
new.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Following step will be measuring the voltage
over the starter motor +12V to the engine.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">When o.k., the starter is suspect. As it
never was overhauled, this is logical.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Nice winter job.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Van:</b> Mgs <<a href="mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net" moz-do-not-send="true">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
<b>Namens </b>Dan DiBiase<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 22 oktober 2020 22:26<br>
<b>Aan:</b> Richard Lindsay <<a href="mailto:richardolindsay@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">richardolindsay@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>CC:</b> mglist <<a href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net" moz-do-not-send="true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>>;
MGB-Yahoo <<a href="mailto:mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com" moz-do-not-send="true">mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Siphoning Gas<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">OMG, duh! Thanks to all that replied
with this excellent (and obvious, now!)
advice..............................<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dan D<br clear="all">
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 4:13 PM
Richard Lindsay <<a href="mailto:richardolindsay@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">richardolindsay@gmail.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I had the same problem. I
disconnected the fuel hose, added a a long bit of hose
and with the coil disconnected, used the fuel pump to
pump old fuel into jugs.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:02 PM Dan
DiBiase <<a href="mailto:dan.dibiase@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">dan.dibiase@gmail.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all.... My '76B, which was
off the road for 5 years, was recently returned to
me from the shop. They added some new gas but did
not siphon out the 5 year old gas (which was just
under 1/2 tank when I had it towed in. The car is
running pretty rough so I want to siphon out most
of the gas before I fill it up. It is currently
showing as just under 1/2 tank, so around 6
gallons or a little less (assuming gauge
accuracy). <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I was able to pump out about
2 gallons but am wondering if the interior of
the tank is baffled, as I can't seem to move the
hose beyond a certain area and it's not sucking
up any additional gas. Would really like to
remove a couple more gallons before I fill it
up.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thx, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">'76B- Getting There<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">'65B - Waiting It's Turn<o:p></o:p></p>
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