<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">All bulbs are literally “plug & play”, I should think…<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
<div class="">--</div><div class="">Max Heim</div><div class=""><a href="mailto:mvheim@sonic.net" class="">mvheim@sonic.net</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:31 PM, dave <<a href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com" class="">dave@ranteer.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="http://www.litezupp.com/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">www.litezupp.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>makes an excellent LED lightbulb which is quite literally plug and play. Looks and has the same plug as a standard light bulb. And is incredibly bright. And since its an LED, it doesn’t draw much current. Totally worth it.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mgs <<a href="mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Max Heim<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, July 7, 2020 3:38 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Barrie Robinson <<a href="mailto:barrob@bell.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">barrob@bell.net</a>>; MGB List <<a href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mgs@autox.team.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Mgs] LED instrument lights<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I used these bulbs just for the instrument panel lamps. The instrument panel turn signal indicators would take the same bulb.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Although the bulbs are advertised as “dim-able” in my experience they are either on or off — full brightness or not visible. It could very well be that a electronic dimmer is required, and they don't “dim” with the old-fashioned rheostat.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The tail and stop lamps take a different base, and one would want the largest/brightest unit available. I installed the ones offered by Moss Motors.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I tried the LEDs offered by Moss for the front turn indicators, but they didn’t work on my car — they were too long. When I tightened down the lens screws, it pressed the bulb down into the socket, cutting off the current. Later I figured out that I could have doubled up on the foam gaskets and prevented this.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Note that using LEDs in the turn signal circuit requires one to install a electronic flasher unit.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">LED headlamp conversions are a more complex subject which I have not investigated.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">--<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Max Heim<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:mvheim@sonic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mvheim@sonic.net</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Jul 7, 2020, at 12:49 PM, Barrie Robinson <<a href="mailto:barrob@bell.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">barrob@bell.net</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Hello Max,<br class=""><br class="">That is brilliant (sorry for the pun!)<br class=""><br class="">Did you by any chance get LEDs for rear brakes and turn bulbs or elsewhere ? You don't do the turn ones but I think brighter would be better. Do you have reference number for them and brakes ???- I looked at my bulbs but no numbers !!!! The only place I would not use LEDs is the head light - too expensive. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">But one thing - it says you can dim with normal rheostat as used originally. I<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">must</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>use a 'inverter' from SpeedHut to dim my speedo and tach - So does that mean I keep the currently installed dimmer with the LEDLight bulbs and add another dimmer for the SpeedHuts ? Actually that's sort of sexy - individual dimming - wow !!!!!<br class=""><br class="">Your information was a relief as I was humming and harring about what to get! <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Cheers<br class="">Barrie<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On 7/7/2020 1:00 PM, Max Heim wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I bought these LEDs for the instruments in my 1966 B, from<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://ledlight.com/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">LEDLight.com</a>.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Product ID 57567<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">#1487 Miniature Bulb E10 Base 5 5050 12V Dim-able T3 1/4<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Color: Warm White 3000K<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">$2.42 ea.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Note that there are brighter bulbs, but they contain more LED elements and are longer, and will not fit in the fuel or combo gauge locations. The number after the word “Base” indicates the number of elements. The next size would be a “9”.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I chose Warm White to simulate the color of the incandescent bulbs. I had tried the Bright White bulbs but I didn't like the effect — it was slightly bluish and actually tended to wash out the lettering on the gauges.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I did not use LEDs in the turn signal indicators because I didn't see any need for them to be brighter.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">--<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">Max Heim<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">'66 MGB<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Barrie Robinson <<a href="mailto:barrob@bell.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">barrob@bell.net</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Hello Folks,<br class=""><br class="">I have installed a SpeedHut speedo and tacho in my MGB GT V8 (not a factory one) and they are superb. But the dimmer does not work on them. So I have decided to put LED bulbs in the remaining four smaller gauges and this means I have to install a LED dimmer for all six gauges. SpeedHut supply an LED dimmer but despite many emails I cannot find how their dimmer hooks up with their gauges and my to-be-installed LEDs in the smaller four. (Probably affected by the dreaded virus - which we know is a hoax). I do not to know what LED bulbs I get for my 4 small gauges - and I need the new stronger ones. I bought LEDs a while way back and they were no stronger than the incandescents !!!<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">So is there anyone who is into this subject as your help would be much appreciated.<br class=""><br class="">I do hope that all is well with you and yours. We are not doing badly and so far the dreaded lurgy has not come near us - but taking super precautions including face masks.<br class=""><br class="">Cheers<br class="">Barrie</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">_______________________________________________<br class=""><br class=""><a href="mailto:Mgs@autox.team.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Mgs@autox.team.net</a><br class="">Donate:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br class="">Suggested annual donation $12.75<br class=""><br class="">Archive:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs</a><a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br class=""><br class="">Unsubscribe:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim@sonic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim@sonic.net</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></blockquote></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>