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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Funny. I’ve been using them for years on a dozen different cars and always had good results.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Osborne, Paul via Mgs<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 23, 2020 8:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net><br><b>Cc:</b> mgs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mgs] Speed Bleeders<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>When they first came out I tried a set, I threw them away for all the same reasons. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>paul o<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On May 23, 2020, at 7:07 PM, Max Heim via Mgs <<a href="mailto:Mgs@autox.team.net">Mgs@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>They need to be tight enough not to leak while someone is pumping the brakes. You can’t bleed with a socket on it. The problem is that the crappy bleed screws that are inappropriately metric because they are made in Asia also have crappy threads, a crappy seat, and are made of crappy metal. <br style='font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:13.5pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br>On May 23, 2020, at 12:57 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs <<a href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net">mgs@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>On both of mine the clutch and caliper nipples are the same hex size.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Wheel cylinders are quite a bit smaller so not surprising the bleed nipples are smaller.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>How tight do you need them to be? If they round-off it's the screw that is the problem. Use a socket for initial loosening and final tightening, in my 3/8" drive socket set they go down to 4mm and 3/16".</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>PaulH.</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>----- Original Message -----<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I can see why — it is a uselessly tiny size. Appropriate for fine instruments, perhaps, but seriously undersized for anything that needs actual tightening, like a bleed screw.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>_______________________________________________<br><br><a href="mailto:Mgs@autox.team.net">Mgs@autox.team.net</a><br>Donate:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.team.net_donate.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=ysLFyqzHakeNZYJhWf9gcyqHGtsTgkd1Zj7xqPr4nes&s=NbcLJLK5oUGSMSU-lls0nOfhoaSzDLlfzqU4rRvn4FI&e=">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual 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