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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks Ira for suggesting the knock-offs. I may end up doing that after exhausting the hub change-over option. My Spitfire (66&72) had hubs that simply bolted on. Plus, cars were plentiful in junk (salvage) yards at one time.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Today's Topics:</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> 1. Re: Wires to Bolt-on Wheels (PaulHunt73)</p><p class=MsoNormal> 2. Re: Wires to Bolt-on Wheels (Osborne, Paul)</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Message: 1</p><p class=MsoNormal>Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 08:27:14 +0100</p><p class=MsoNormal>From: "PaulHunt73" <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>To: "Stephen Hughes" <daybell7@aol.com>, <mgs@autox.team.net></p><p class=MsoNormal>Subject: Re: [Mgs] Wires to Bolt-on Wheels</p><p class=MsoNormal>Message-ID: <F9CD8EF4160B489484477A338993496D@paul></p><p class=MsoNormal>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Wire wheel axles are a couple of inches shorter than stud wheel so if you put standard wire wheels on standard WW hubs on a chrome bumper car the rear tyres will likely foul the arches. RB cars are usually OK unless they have been lowered. There are conversion hubs that bring the wheels in by about half an inch or so, but you can still get fouling especially on the left. BT, DT, eventually got a pukka wire wheel axle with my aftermarket Dunlop WW wheels but they still rub a bit with 175s as the inset doesn't seem to be as much as the originals, the rear track being 1270mm instead of 1250mm.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Minilites may be OK if the inset is suitable, but really you won't know with either wheel type until you get them on the car as suppliers statements on inset etc. aren't always correct.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Used hubs need to be treated with caution, the splines narrow and lean over especially at the rear and if left will eventually shear.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>PaulH.</p><p class=MsoNormal> ----- Original Message ----- </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> Either my wire wheeled 1972 Roadster or 1968 GT will get Minilite Wheels.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> I?ll need to switch out the hubs for the bolt-ons. </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> Since the hubs are not available new, I?ll have to find used hubs.</p><p class=MsoNormal>-------------- next part --------------</p><p class=MsoNormal>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</p><p class=MsoNormal>URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/mgs/attachments/20200520/0206faef/attachment-0001.htm></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>------------------------------</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Message: 2</p><p class=MsoNormal>Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 13:13:55 +0000</p><p class=MsoNormal>From: "Osborne, Paul" <paul@ece.rochester.edu></p><p class=MsoNormal>To: PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>Cc: Stephen Hughes <daybell7@aol.com>, "mgs@autox.team.net"</p><p class=MsoNormal> <mgs@autox.team.net></p><p class=MsoNormal>Subject: Re: [Mgs] Wires to Bolt-on Wheels</p><p class=MsoNormal>Message-ID: <33FFBFF1-6769-4655-9B32-B6F93B65C201@ur.rochester.edu></p><p class=MsoNormal>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>What I have found, and have done, is that the axle fitted to MGB from 1965-1980 the over all length is 1 3/4 shorter on the WW or 7/8 on each side from the center of the spring bracket to the outside. To help with the difference in the offsets of the wheels, WW to Steel, you need a 1/4? spacer between the wheel and the brake drum. But, always a but, the studs are now not long enough. Finding studs that will work was a PIA. We found that studs from a Toyota worked the best to fit the holes in the hub with out drilling the holes. Have done this 3 times now and it places the wheel almost in the center of the wheel cavity with no interference of the week to the body. Good luck.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The best solution is to find a steel wheel axle and use it. Overall cost should be about the same and a bit less work.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>paul o</p><p class=MsoNormal>On May 20, 2020, at 3:27 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net<mailto:mgs@autox.team.net>> wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Wire wheel axles are a couple of inches shorter than stud wheel so if you put standard wire wheels on standard WW hubs on a chrome bumper car the rear tyres will likely foul the arches. RB cars are usually OK unless they have been lowered. There are conversion hubs that bring the wheels in by about half an inch or so, but you can still get fouling especially on the left. BT, DT, eventually got a pukka wire wheel axle with my aftermarket Dunlop WW wheels but they still rub a bit with 175s as the inset doesn't seem to be as much as the originals, the rear track being 1270mm instead of 1250mm.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Minilites may be OK if the inset is suitable, but really you won't know with either wheel type until you get them on the car as suppliers statements on inset etc. aren't always correct.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Used hubs need to be treated with caution, the splines narrow and lean over especially at the rear and if left will eventually shear.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>PaulH.</p><p class=MsoNormal>----- Original Message -----</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Either my wire wheeled 1972 Roadster or 1968 GT will get Minilite Wheels.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I?ll need to switch out the hubs for the bolt-ons.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Since the hubs are not available new, I?ll have to find used hubs.</p><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>