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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I would never say that! I refuse to be a grumpy old man!!!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael MacLean via Mgs<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 10, 2020 12:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> MGs <mgs@autox.team.net>; Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mgs] Ridiculous new cars<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>The one thing I have not heard from you guys yet is "And you kids get off my lawn too!"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Mike MacLean<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>69 MGB GT<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>60 Bugeye<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>56 Austin Healey BN2 LeMans<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>2012 Honda Accord LX<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>2002 Harley Davidson Heritage Springer<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yahoo_quoted_4320276891"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>On Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 10:03:44 AM PDT, Max Heim via Mgs <<a href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net">mgs@autox.team.net</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id=yiv1450297804><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>I was saying the same thing 20 years ago. Power windows! Power door locks! Power seats, for chrissake! Remote entry and alarms systems! Keyless starters! Not a one of them necessary. Each one a potential expensive repair down the road.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Our newest car is a 2001 Toyota Echo without a single one of these mod cons. 135K and hopefully will go much longer. I really do not want to be forced into a car with one of those key fob gadgets.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>I do have a phone charger plugged into the cigar lighter socket in the MGB.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Max Heim<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>'66 MGB<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div id=yiv1450297804yqtfd78278><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>On Mar 10, 2020, at 9:54 AM, Steve Shoyer via Mgs <<a href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">mgs@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Some of the newer safety devices are good to have. If my son (fairly new driver at the time) had been driving a car with a collision avoidance system, he might not have totaled the car when he ran into someone. The car we got as a replacement system has collision avoidance, and the rest of the stuff that comes along with it.<br><br>My everyday car is ready to be replaced, and I agree about all the junk in the new cars that's not really needed. I hate paying for stuff I don't want and probably won't use, and I especially hate to pay to have someone fix it in a year or two when it stops working. That being said, I almost took a car off my list because my cell phone doesn't fit in the built-in wireless charger. First world problems, I guess.<br><br>--Steve (1980 MGB)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div id=yiv1450297804yqtfd81360><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div id=yqtfd23406><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________<br><br><a href="mailto:Mgs@autox.team.net">Mgs@autox.team.net</a><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual donation $12.75<br><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs%20" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs </a><a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/rrengineer.mike@att.net" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/rrengineer.mike@att.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>