<div dir="auto">Condencers can fail in two ways, open and closed. If they fail closed (shorted), you are not going anywhere, but if they fail open (infinite capacitance), much of the energy in the spark can be lost through arcing across the points, leading to rough running.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Simon</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 9:03 AM Max Heim via Mgs <<a href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net">mgs@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">I understand how it could make the car inoperable. I don’t see an explanation for an intermediate state.<div><br><div>
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Not true, Max. When the points open, the condenser discharges
through the coil in order to perpetuate the spark. Without the
condenser the engine may not even start. Try it some time. <span class="m_-8879707449479399274moz-smiley-s1"><span>:-)</span></span><br>
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How do bad condensers cause rough running? All they do is prevent
the points from burning. Oh, you are saying the points are burnt.
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a bad a condenser. Could coincidental, not causational.
How old is the condenser? Even if newish, there are lots
of crappy new Lucas parts out there. I had three bad
ones with similar results, until replaced with a
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<div dir="ltr">I've never encountered a
"bad fuel" problem before, so I'm looking</div>
<div dir="ltr">for some confirmation
(or not). The local Mom-without-Pop store put</div>
<div dir="ltr">in new pumps, and one of
the things they're offering now is 92 octane
(US)<br>
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<div dir="ltr">alcohol-free gas. I had
about a quarter tank in my MGA (w/MGB high</div>
<div dir="ltr">compression engine) so I
went to fill up. The pump with the alcohol-</div>
<div dir="ltr">free gas was out of
order! So I put in three gallons of regular
92<span class="m_-8879707449479399274Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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<div dir="ltr">octane, and about 1/4
mile from the station started experiencing a
lot</div>
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when accelerating in 3rd and 4th. I continued</div>
<div dir="ltr"><span><span class="m_-8879707449479399274gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">driving
like this for about 20 miles to see if it
would clear up and it</span></span></div>
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did. I can't imagine it's anything but
the fuel, but I've never</span></span></div>
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"bad fuel" situation like this in 44 years
of driving.</span></span></div>
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fact that it started about 1/4 mile after
leaving the station seems</span></span></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span><span class="m_-8879707449479399274gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">like
pretty good evidence. Any other
possibilities? Is there any option</span></span></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span><span class="m_-8879707449479399274gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">other
than to just burn through this half tank
of gas?</span></span></div>
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