<div dir="auto">My car ran rough, backfired and coughed under load, but did ok at low speeds. Replaced the condenser , ran fine for a few hundred miles, then failed again.  Both were new Lucas units. Put in an old stock one, car ran fine until I replace with HD condenser. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 9:45 AM Max Heim via Mgs <<a href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net">mgs@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Rough running, which was the stated symptom, as opposed to “not running”.<div><br><div>
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<br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jul 23, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Charley Robinson <<a href="mailto:Charley38@twc.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Charley38@twc.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_5125570201452341329Apple-interchange-newline"><div>
  
    
  
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    What do you mean by "intermediate state"?<br>
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    CR<br>
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    <div class="m_5125570201452341329moz-cite-prefix">On 7/23/2019 11:03 AM, Max Heim via Mgs
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      I understand how it could make the car inoperable. I don’t see an
      explanation for an intermediate state.
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          <div>Max Heim</div>
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            <div>On Jul 23, 2019, at 6:53 AM, Charley Robinson
              <<a href="mailto:Charley38@twc.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Charley38@twc.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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              <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Not true,
                Max.  When the points open, the condenser discharges
                through the coil in order to perpetuate the spark. 
                Without the condenser the engine may not even start. 
                Try it some time. <span class="m_5125570201452341329moz-smiley-s1"><span>:-)</span></span><br>
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                CR<br>
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                <div class="m_5125570201452341329moz-cite-prefix">On 7/22/2019 1:18 PM, Max
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                  How do bad condensers cause rough running? All they do
                  is prevent the points from burning. Oh, you are saying
                  the points are burnt.
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                          <div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;min-height:16px">Max Heim</div>
                          <div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px">'66 MGB</div>
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                        <div>On Jul 22, 2019, at 11:10 AM, i
                          erbs via Mgs <<a href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mgs@autox.team.net</a>>
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                          <div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">could also be a bad a condenser.
                            Could coincidental, not causational. How old
                            is the condenser? Even if newish, there are
                            lots of crappy new Lucas parts out there. I
                            had three bad ones with similar results,
                            until replaced with  a Distributor Doctor HD
                            condenser.<br clear="all">
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">Ira
                                                          Erbs
                                                          <div>Portland,OR</div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">      _______  
                                                                       
                                                                       
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                                                                  BT7
                                                          engine and
                                                          disk brakes</div>
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                                                          <div><span>A
                                                          racing car is
                                                          an animal with
                                                          a thousand
                                                          adjustments.
                                                          Mario Andretti</span><br>
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                                                          excuse random
                                                          auto corrects
                                                          and misspelled
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                            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon,
                              Jul 22, 2019 at 10:36 AM David Breneman
                              via Mgs <<a href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mgs@autox.team.net</a>>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">I've never
                                      encountered a "bad fuel" problem
                                      before, so I'm looking</div>
                                    <div dir="ltr">for some
                                      confirmation (or not).  The local
                                      Mom-without-Pop store put</div>
                                    <div dir="ltr">in new
                                      pumps, and one of the things
                                      they're offering now is 92 octane
                                      (US)<br>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">alcohol-free
                                      gas.  I had about a quarter tank
                                      in my MGA (w/MGB high</div>
                                    <div dir="ltr">compression
                                      engine) so I went to fill up.  The
                                      pump with the alcohol-</div>
                                    <div dir="ltr">free gas was
                                      out of order!  So I put in three
                                      gallons of regular 92<span class="m_5125570201452341329Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">octane, and
                                      about 1/4 mile from the station
                                      started experiencing a lot</div>
                                    <div dir="ltr">of
                                      misfiring, mostly when
                                      accelerating in 3rd and 4th.  I
                                      continued</div>
                                    <div dir="ltr"><span><span class="m_5125570201452341329gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">driving
                                          like this for about 20 miles
                                          to see if it would clear up
                                          and it</span></span></div>
                                    <div dir="ltr"><span><span class="m_5125570201452341329gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">never
                                          did.  I can't imagine it's
                                          anything but the fuel, but
                                          I've never</span></span></div>
                                    <div dir="ltr"><span><span class="m_5125570201452341329gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">encountered
                                          "bad fuel" situation like this
                                          in 44 years of driving.</span></span></div>
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                                    <div dir="ltr"><span><span class="m_5125570201452341329gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">The
                                          fact that it started about 1/4
                                          mile after leaving the station
                                          seems</span></span></div>
                                    <div dir="ltr"><span><span class="m_5125570201452341329gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">like
                                          pretty good evidence.  Any
                                          other possibilities?  Is there
                                          any option</span></span></div>
                                    <div dir="ltr"><span><span class="m_5125570201452341329gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">other
                                          than to just burn through this
                                          half tank of gas?</span></span></div>
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                                    <div dir="ltr"><span><span class="m_5125570201452341329gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">Thanks! <span class="m_5125570201452341329Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><br>
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