<div dir="auto"> Wow Paul! There are always people who find ways to cheat the system.<div dir="auto"> Another whole discussion has to do with the 'road tax' that you mention. Its not a topic worthy of extended discussion here, but it is a concern.</div><div dir="auto"> Ages ago I offered to sell my Mondial QV to an old friend in Porto, Portugal. He wanted the car and the price was right, about $24k. However, that Ferrari has a 3.0 liter V8 engine and Portugal's tax structure classes that engine as 'large'. The tax to import that car into the EU, plus road tax (or whatever they call it) was to be MORE than the cost of the car! I could have given him the car and it still wouldn't have been a good deal!</div><div dir="auto"> Here in the States we forget how lucky we are with automobile taxes and fuel. In Texas we pay a 'sales tax', the equivalent of VAT, each time a car is transferred. Rounded up, its about 7% of the 'value' of the car. Its a one time charge, except for annual re-registration for a nominal fee (about $67).</div><div dir="auto"> As is always the case, 'value' is a poorly defined term. In the case of the DMV, TXDOT, it appears to be the greater of the actual purchase price or the DMV's established value of the car. That works fine for a 2017 Ford but there are no MGAs in their value guide. Therefore, its important to present a Bill-of-Sale to establish value. And since tax is paid based upon value, it is common practice here to falsify the Bill-of-Sale. Yea, back to that cheating the system.</div><div dir="auto"> We don't have a road tax, <i>per se</i>., other than that which is added to the price of fuel. We know that big engines burn more fuel, but otherwise, that 'road tax' is independent of car type. Then again, our fuel is so cheap that the topic is barely worthy of discussion. I live where much of the nation's fuel is refined so prices are even lower, due to minimal transportation costs.</div><div dir="auto"> Please remember, much of what I have written above pertains to Texas, not the USA in general. In the States, much of the tax structure is set by the state, added on to whatever the national government imposes. That's sometimes confusing for those living outside of the USA.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Rick</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 7:04 AM PaulHunt73 via Mgs <<a href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net">mgs@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<div><font size="2">Much the same in the UK plus various dates, engine number and
capacity, body style, taxation class (Historic i.e. free yay), minus
'lien'.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">Still plenty of 'gotchas' though, one of the more recent being
that if a seller goes online immediately he swaps the car for money to
notify the DVLA of the sale (so he isn't liable for the purchasers subsequent
speeding fines), the existing road tax is cancelled and the buyer has
to retax it before he can drive it. Tricky if the process takes place
at the sellers house. That and others are supposed to reduce the
number of untaxed and unregistered cars on the roads but there has been an
explosion in them. Once a car is off the books they can drive around with
impunity, with cloned plates applicable to another car, and innocent
victims copping for their speeding and parking tickets.</font></div>
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<div dir="auto"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif"> Here in Texas
the registration and title document includes the VIN, or car/chassis number,
owner's name and address, previous owner's info, and body color - I think. Oh,
and there is an area to indicate if there is a lean against the car. EasyPeasy
if everything is in order. Cumbersome if not. Perhaps that is how it should
be, for our own protection. </span></div>
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