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Wow, that's a lot of miles on that little long-stroke 4-banger! <br>
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aftermarket distributors are prone to quality control issues
and I would avoid them if possible. I would recommend sending
your original distributor to Advanced and having it rebuilt
and install a Petronix module instead of the points.
(Petronix verses points, always a difference of opinion) Keep
a new set of points, rotor and condensor in the car in case
the Petronix fails. It has not happened to me but best to be
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the original owner of a 1973 MGB with over 223,000 miles on
the car. The next thing we did was send the HIF4 carbs to Mr.
Johnson in OK and had them rebuilt with new throttle shafts -
they were leaking. Spray some carb cleaner on the throttle
shafts while the car is running. If RPM's change - shafts are
leaking. New coil, spark plugs and plug wires and you should
be all set.<br>
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<div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1515685984719_5826">With
these changes, the car starts on the first turn of key, runs
and idles excellent. About 8,000 miles since the above
changes were made. I wish we had done this years ago - made a
big difference for around $500 total.<br>
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1. H4 or HS4 carbs on an MGA 1600 and Electronic
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Points (Charley & Peggy Robinson)Re: <br>
2. Re: H4 or HS4 carbs on an MGA 1600 and Electronic
Ignition or<br>
Points (Robert J. Guinness)<br>
3. Re: H4 or HS4 carbs on an MGA 1600 and Electronic
Ignition<br>
(Eric Russell)<br>
4. Re: H4 or HS4 carbs on an MGA 1600 and Electronic
Ignition or<br>
Points (John DiFede)<br>
5. Re: H4 or HS4 carbs on an MGA 1600 and Electronic
Ignition or<br>
Points (Osborne, Paul)<br>
6. Re: H4 or HS4 carbs on an MGA 1600 and Electronic
Ignition<br>
(Andrew Lundgren)<br>
7. Re: H4 or HS4 carbs on an MGA 1600 and Electronic
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Points (PaulHunt73)<br>
8. Re: H4 or HS4 carbs on an MGA 1600 and Electronic
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9. Re: H4 or HS4 carbs on an MGA 1600 and Electronic
Ignition or<br>
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well does the engine run? If it runs well I
wouldn't mess with it.<br>
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bought an MGA 1600 with HS4 carbs conversion
and a crane fireball electronic ignition. I
would like to go back to a stock set up. What
are the <b>significant</b> pros and cons for
doing so, for example power (rather than ease
of maintenance)? I know the H4s, but I am
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<div>It ran great for @400 miles on a run from
Raleigh, NC to just North of Caryville, TN in
the New Years Eve subzero weather, then quit.
Would fade and then rev back up (until it didn't
anymore). Probably a combination of fuel pump,
bad fuel, coil, and voltage regulator issues.
Man was it cold on that mountain waiting for
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<div>I bought an MGA 1600 with HS4 carbs
conversion and a crane fireball electronic
ignition. I would like to go back to a
stock set up. What are the <b>significant</b>
pros and cons for doing so, for example
power (rather than ease of maintenance)? I
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src="mid://ACbWyQoAAEERWlaNpwb9ELo4ln8/4.3">I can't
imagine any significant power difference between H4
& HS4 carbs. <br>
The throats are the same. I suspect the HS4 carbs will
be a little less <br>
leak-prone. (the rubber grommets on the H4 float bowl
tend to be a weak <br>
point, IME) I don't think HS4's came with the decel
valve in the <br>
throttle plate - if they did that could be a small
difference in power.<br>
<br>
I am not a fan of replacement electronic ignition
systems. When they <br>
work they work just fine. But when they don't work,
replacement of the <br>
entire unit seems like the only option. With points,
an occasional <br>
tune-up keeps it working fine. And if something does
go wrong when <br>
you're on the road, a tiny kit with spare points &
condensor is almost <br>
surely all you'd need to get going again.<br>
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Eric Russell<br>
Mebane, NC<br>
> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 10:52:13 -0600<br>
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> Subject: [Mgs] H4 or HS4 carbs on an MGA 1600 and
Electronic Ignition<br>
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> I bought an MGA 1600 with HS4 carbs conversion
and a crane fireball<br>
> electronic ignition.? I would like to go back to
a stock set up.? What<br>
> are the *significant* pros and cons for doing so,
for example power<br>
> (rather than ease of maintenance)?? I know the
H4s, but I am unfamiliar<br>
> with working with HS4s (same with points vs
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<div>If you decide to go with an electronic ignition
get a pertronix unit. I have used both , the
crane set up with its brackets and screws and
shutter wheel is difficult to set up correctly and
can loosen up and fail. The benefit of electronic
ignition is not having to set up the points at
tune up time. Keep a set of points and condenser
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<div>It ran great for @400 miles on a run
from Raleigh, NC to just North of
Caryville, TN in the New Years Eve
subzero weather, then quit. Would fade
and then rev back up (until it didn't
anymore). Probably a combination of
fuel pump, bad fuel, coil, and voltage
regulator issues. Man was it cold on
that mountain waiting for AAA!<br>
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<div>I bought an MGA 1600 with HS4
carbs conversion and a crane
fireball electronic ignition. I
would like to go back to a stock set
up. What are the
<b>significant</b> pros and cons for
doing so, for example power (rather
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the H4s, but I am unfamiliar with
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<div>If it were me, I'd put a set of points in the
tool box in case the electronics fail and not
worry about the carbs.
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<div>But my cars need me to spend money and time
on things that are broken, and I'm not that much
of a purist. I go original generally but it
doesn't need to be the same year if something
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<div>I've got a 70 B with electric ignition and
non original engine, and a 78 with SUs, that has
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significant power difference between H4 &
HS4 carbs. The throats are the same. I suspect
the HS4 carbs will be a little less
leak-prone. (the rubber grommets on the H4
float bowl tend to be a weak point, IME) I
don't think HS4's came with the decel valve in
the throttle plate - if they did that could be
a small difference in power.<br>
<br>
I am not a fan of replacement electronic
ignition systems. When they work they work
just fine. But when they don't work,
replacement of the entire unit seems like the
only option. With points, an occasional
tune-up keeps it working fine. And if
something does go wrong when you're on the
road, a tiny kit with spare points &
condensor is almost surely all you'd need to
get going again.<br>
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Subject: [Mgs] H4 or HS4 carbs on an MGA
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I bought an MGA 1600 with HS4 carbs
conversion and a crane fireball<br>
electronic ignition.? I would like to go
back to a stock set up.? What<br>
are the *significant* pros and cons for
doing so, for example power<br>
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fault has obviously developed. I'd definitely
resolve that first. If you start messing
changing major components and still have
problems you won't know whether the original
fault is still there, or it is something you
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<div>It ran great for @400 miles on a run from
Raleigh, NC to just North of Caryville, TN in
the New Years Eve subzero weather, then quit.
Would fade and then rev back up (until it
didn't anymore). Probably a combination of
fuel pump, bad fuel, coil, and voltage
regulator issues. Man was it cold on that
mountain waiting for AAA!<br>
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<div>Here are the reasons for my suspicions.</div>
<div>The prior owner did not drive the car very
much.</div>
<div>Fuel Pump (weak slow clicking from the points
and sharp blow to the pump caused increase in
performance)</div>
<div>Bad Gas (Problems began almost immediately
after refueling. Lack of prior driving and
severe cold may have settled some debris &
water in bottom of the tank).</div>
<div>Coil (I had similar problems on another MGA
that turned out to be an overheating and failing
coil)</div>
<div>Voltage Regulator ( Problems arose after
turned on lights and wipers and heater -- the
starter would not crank and no electrics on
failure. Started it a couple of time with the
hand crank though. The seller gave me the
charger as part of the deal and he had a trickle
charger installed permanently in the car. I was
able to recharge the battery overnight and then
it cranked well. Of course, it could be the
generator or wiring downstream from the
regulator. It is on my to do list )</div>
<div>The heater control valve also sprang a leak
over the distributor, but that seems to have
occurred only after the breakdown.</div>
<div>My question really is whether I should go
back to the OEM set up (which I have n
irrational preference for) assuming all the
other problems are already sorted. Or would I
be giving up some significant performance
enhancements. It did go over the Continental
Divide in NC strong and well at 60 MPH.<br>
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fault has obviously developed. I'd
definitely resolve that first. If you start
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<div>It ran great for @400 miles on a run from
Raleigh, NC to just North of Caryville, TN
in the New Years Eve subzero weather, then
quit. Would fade and then rev back up
(until it didn't anymore). Probably a
combination of fuel pump, bad fuel, coil,
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<div> Agreed, need to find out why it stopped
running first.<br>
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<div class="yiv2012100914moz-cite-prefix">On
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<div><font size="2">Under those circumstances a
fault has obviously developed. I'd
definitely resolve that first. If you start
messing changing major components and still
have problems you won't know whether the
original fault is still there, or it is
something you have done, or both. But why
do you think four things all happened to go
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