<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_71880" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_71937">I too have had petrol fume smells in my trunk. While the stainless braided hoses looked fine, I think the rubber inside had deteriorated. I just replaced mine with fuel line hoses and the smell has gone away. Just get a size that fits the nipples and some hose clamps. You could also get the replacement braided lines if you want to stay strictly stock.<br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_72090"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_71937"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_71937">Regards</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_71937"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_72112"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_71937">Joel Martin<br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_72011"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_71937"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_72111"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_71937"></span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_71879"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_71891" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_71890"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_71889"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "mgs-request@autox.team.net" <mgs-request@autox.team.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> mgs@autox.team.net <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 3, 2018 2:38 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Mgs Digest, Vol 128, Issue 1<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_71888"><br><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_72131">Send Mgs mailing list submissions to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a ymailto="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net" href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net">mgs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_72132"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_71887">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a ymailto="mailto:mgs-request@autox.team.net" href="mailto:mgs-request@autox.team.net">mgs-request@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">You can reach the person managing the list at<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a ymailto="mailto:mgs-owner@autox.team.net" href="mailto:mgs-owner@autox.team.net">mgs-owner@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_71913"><br></div><div dir="ltr">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_71911">than "Re: Contents of Mgs digest..."<br></div>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_71892">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual donation $12.75<br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums" target="_blank" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_71900">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Evaporative loss and anti-run on valve tubing sizes<br> (William Killeffer)<br> 2. Evaporative loss and anti-run on valve tubing sizes<br> (William Killeffer)<br> 3. Re: Evaporative loss and anti-run on valve tubing sizes<br> (PaulHunt73)<br><div id="ymsg34269" class="ymsg1268630347" src="mid://ACbWyQoAADXhWk0xPAIbEDbUyO8/4.1"><div id="yiv1178748191"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_71899">Hi everyone,<div><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1514993594481_71898">I've decided that my next MG project will be replacing the fuel tank and its associated parts, and getting the evap loss system and ARO valve back into functioning condition. The car, a 1974 MGB, with an 18GK engine and HS4's, has smelled rather petrol-y in the boot for many years, but the last time I drove it, it seemed far worse. Like, rolling fire hazard worse. None of the evap or ARO stuff has been correctly hooked up since I've had the car. Seems like this would reduce fuel wastage due to evaporation. </div><div><br></div><div>Some remnants of the evaporative loss tubing is still there, but it's hard to tell what to use for a proper replacement for the perished bits. The hose running from the valve cover to the canister seems like it's supposed to have a different inner diameter on each end. And there's also the hose that runs from the bottom of the ARO valve. I'm just ghetto enough that if I thought a piece of last summer's garden hose would do the trick, I would go that route, but I doubt it's that simple. </div><div><br></div><div>Any suggestions for tubing sizes and sources would be very much appreciated at this point. </div><div><br></div><div>Thank you,</div><div>-William</div></div></div></div><div id="ymsg54430" class="ymsg1268630347" src="mid://ACbWyQoAADXhWk0xPAIbEDbUyO8/4.2"><div id="yiv1178748191"><div></div><div class="yiv1178748191gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: William Killeffer <wkilleffer@epbfi.com><br>Date: Jan 2, 2018 2:32 PM<br>Subject: Evaporative loss and anti-run on valve tubing sizes<br>To: mgs@autox.team.net<br>Cc: <br><br><blockquote class="yiv1178748191quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div>Hi everyone,<div><br></div><div>I've decided that my next MG project will be replacing the fuel tank and its associated parts, and getting the evap loss system and ARO valve back into functioning condition. The car, a 1974 MGB, with an 18GK engine and HS4's, has smelled rather petrol-y in the boot for many years, but the last time I drove it, it seemed far worse. Like, rolling fire hazard worse. None of the evap or ARO stuff has been correctly hooked up since I've had the car. Seems like this would reduce fuel wastage due to evaporation. </div><div><br></div><div>Some remnants of the evaporative loss tubing is still there, but it's hard to tell what to use for a proper replacement for the perished bits. The hose running from the valve cover to the canister seems like it's supposed to have a different inner diameter on each end. And there's also the hose that runs from the bottom of the ARO valve. I'm just ghetto enough that if I thought a piece of last summer's garden hose would do the trick, I would go that route, but I doubt it's that simple. </div><div><br></div><div>Any suggestions for tubing sizes and sources would be very much appreciated at this point. </div><div><br></div><div>Thank you,</div><div>-William</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div><div id="ymsg73884" class="ymsg1268630347" src="mid://ACbWyQoAADXhWk0xPAIbEDbUyO8/4.3"><div id="yiv1178748191">
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<div><font size="2">Don't expect much of an improvement in mileage by eliminating
vapour leaks, but definitely a good idea to do so for the other reasons.
The tank rotting through on the top is a fairly common event, but that is
usually accompanied by staining down the front and sides. </font><font size="2">With the separator in the boot that and its associated plumbing has to be
favourite though. The separator seems to use threaded fittings, but it
should be possible to fit plain hose to those.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">Ordinarily the hose at the bottom of the ARO is only pulling
in air, to scavenge the charcoal granules. However if the float chamber
valve(s) stick open then fuel will eventually run out of that hose. But
it's never going to be under pressure, or holding fuel, so anything that fits
will be fine.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">Can't comment on the relative sizes of the rocker cover and
canister ports except to say that in pictures and Parts Catalogue I can't
see any reduction in hose OD between the two. If it really is different
then get something to fit the rocker cover and pad it out at the canister.
It's only pulling air and fumes through, no petrol in an overflow
situation like the ARO valve lower hose, but I'd still use fuel-grade hose for
it and in all the other places hose is used.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">PaulH.</font></div>
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<div>Some remnants of the evaporative loss tubing is still there, but
it's hard to tell what to use for a proper replacement for the perished bits.
The hose running from the valve cover to the canister seems like it's supposed
to have a different inner diameter on each end. And there's also the hose that
runs from the bottom of the ARO valve. I'm just ghetto enough that if I
thought a piece of last summer's garden hose would do the trick, I would go
that route, but I doubt it's that
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