From barroban at outlook.com  Mon May 13 15:30:56 2024
From: barroban at outlook.com (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 17:30:56 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Hell Larry
Message-ID: <CY8PR19MB7154E9F4939D899CAD88D7B5DDE22@CY8PR19MB7154.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

If Larry Shimp is out there please give me a shout at barroban at outlook.com

Barrie


From dave at ranteer.com  Thu May 16 18:03:25 2024
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 00:03:25 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] MGA Stainless Steel bottom edge
Message-ID: <2210e8e785204c34a8c1d9cd32882f48@ranteer.com>

What are people doing to reproduce this?  I've only heard horror stories about stuff from the usual suspects.


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From dave at ranteer.com  Mon May 20 13:27:08 2024
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 19:27:08 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] HS4 Carbs
Message-ID: <06105fb2bfe548b5b54bfcdac973fd77@ranteer.com>

I have HS4 carbs, newly rebuilt, which I am putting on an early 5 main MGB engine in an MGA.  I'm all set, except the choke mechanism.

A stock MGA cable has the sheath firmly attached to the knob assembly at the dashboard.  It expects the choke to be pulled on by the cable.

The HS4 carbs expect the sheath to move, the cable itself being held stationary at the carbs, while the knob is pulled out.  I'm trying to understand the mechanism.  Is it as simple as a sheath that is not attached at ether end and therefore floats, and changes position moving the choke as the cable is shortened by pulling the knob?

The simplest answer would be to just get an MGB choke cable, which I might do.  But first I want to understand the movement of the sheath, the cable, the knob, and the choke assembly.

Can anyone help me out here?
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From mvheim at sonic.net  Mon May 20 13:57:19 2024
From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 12:57:19 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] HS4 Carbs
In-Reply-To: <06105fb2bfe548b5b54bfcdac973fd77@ranteer.com>
References: <06105fb2bfe548b5b54bfcdac973fd77@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <87BC081A-6BC6-406C-933D-65B358AB0D6C@sonic.net>

No, the MGB choke cable sheath is also firmly attached at the dashboard end.

The only difference is at the carb end ? is the end of the sheath anchored to the moving lever, or is the end of the cable attached to the moving lever? The other will be fixed. It works the same either way.

It?s like a scissors ? if you hold one handle still, moving the other handle opens and closes it ? it doesn't matter which one you hold.


--
Max Heim
'66 MGB

> On May 20, 2024, at 12:27?PM, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
> 
> I have HS4 carbs, newly rebuilt, which I am putting on an early 5 main MGB engine in an MGA.  I?m all set, except the choke mechanism.
>  
> A stock MGA cable has the sheath firmly attached to the knob assembly at the dashboard.  It expects the choke to be pulled on by the cable.
>  
> The HS4 carbs expect the sheath to move, the cable itself being held stationary at the carbs, while the knob is pulled out.  I?m trying to understand the mechanism.  Is it as simple as a sheath that is not attached at ether end and therefore floats, and changes position moving the choke as the cable is shortened by pulling the knob?
>  
> The simplest answer would be to just get an MGB choke cable, which I might do.  But first I want to understand the movement of the sheath, the cable, the knob, and the choke assembly.
>  
> Can anyone help me out here?
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> 
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From lrc at red4est.com  Mon May 20 14:01:30 2024
From: lrc at red4est.com (lrc at red4est.com)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 13:01:30 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] HS4 Carbs
In-Reply-To: <06105fb2bfe548b5b54bfcdac973fd77@ranteer.com>
References: <06105fb2bfe548b5b54bfcdac973fd77@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <4524E2F9-CAA1-40EC-870B-5E92210D91DF@red4est.com>

I've run a variety of HS carbs over the years and have never seen one where the sheath moves. 
Or any other carb with a choke cable for that matter.

On May 20, 2024 12:27:08 PM PDT, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>I have HS4 carbs, newly rebuilt, which I am putting on an early 5 main MGB engine in an MGA.  I'm all set, except the choke mechanism.
>
>A stock MGA cable has the sheath firmly attached to the knob assembly at the dashboard.  It expects the choke to be pulled on by the cable.
>
>The HS4 carbs expect the sheath to move, the cable itself being held stationary at the carbs, while the knob is pulled out.  I'm trying to understand the mechanism.  Is it as simple as a sheath that is not attached at ether end and therefore floats, and changes position moving the choke as the cable is shortened by pulling the knob?
>
>The simplest answer would be to just get an MGB choke cable, which I might do.  But first I want to understand the movement of the sheath, the cable, the knob, and the choke assembly.
>
>Can anyone help me out here?

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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From mvheim at sonic.net  Mon May 20 16:03:28 2024
From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 15:03:28 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] HS4 Carbs
In-Reply-To: <4524E2F9-CAA1-40EC-870B-5E92210D91DF@red4est.com>
References: <4524E2F9-CAA1-40EC-870B-5E92210D91DF@red4est.com>
Message-ID: <195EF35C-5B3C-4454-A06E-49E32103FE5E@sonic.net>

Larry?s response made me go look, and yes, it?s exactly how I described it. 

The end of the choke cable is attached to a fixed object (the extension of the front carb air cleaner mounting bracket), nd the end of the cable housing is socketed into the moveable lever arm that operates the choke. 

So you might think you are pulling on the cable when you pull the choke knob, but what you are really doing is shortening the length of cable that is contained within the sheath, forcing the far end of the sheath to move relative to the fixed end of the cable. 

Photo attached. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2024, at 1:24?PM, lrc at red4est.com wrote:
> 
> ?
> I've run a variety of HS carbs over the years and have never seen one where the sheath moves.
> Or any other carb with a choke cable for that matter.
> 
> 
>> On May 20, 2024 12:27:08 PM PDT, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>> I have HS4 carbs, newly rebuilt, which I am putting on an early 5 main MGB engine in an MGA.  I?m all set, except the choke mechanism.
>>  
>> A stock MGA cable has the sheath firmly attached to the knob assembly at the dashboard.  It expects the choke to be pulled on by the cable.
>>  
>> The HS4 carbs expect the sheath to move, the cable itself being held stationary at the carbs, while the knob is pulled out.  I?m trying to understand the mechanism.  Is it as simple as a sheath that is not attached at ether end and therefore floats, and changes position moving the choke as the cable is shortened by pulling the knob?
>>  
>> The simplest answer would be to just get an MGB choke cable, which I might do.  But first I want to understand the movement of the sheath, the cable, the knob, and the choke assembly.
>>  
>> Can anyone help me out here?
> 
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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> 
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From mvheim at sonic.net  Mon May 20 16:34:04 2024
From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 15:34:04 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] HS4 Carbs
In-Reply-To: <195EF35C-5B3C-4454-A06E-49E32103FE5E@sonic.net>
References: <4524E2F9-CAA1-40EC-870B-5E92210D91DF@red4est.com>
 <195EF35C-5B3C-4454-A06E-49E32103FE5E@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <80786342-2702-4684-8AFC-258A79784CA2@sonic.net>

Should have added that this is a 1966 B roadster. YMMV?.

--
Max Heim
'66 MGB

> On May 20, 2024, at 3:03?PM, Max Heim <mvheim at sonic.net> wrote:
> 
> Larry?s response made me go look, and yes, it?s exactly how I described it. 
> 
> The end of the choke cable is attached to a fixed object (the extension of the front carb air cleaner mounting bracket), nd the end of the cable housing is socketed into the moveable lever arm that operates the choke. 
> 
> So you might think you are pulling on the cable when you pull the choke knob, but what you are really doing is shortening the length of cable that is contained within the sheath, forcing the far end of the sheath to move relative to the fixed end of the cable. 
> 
> Photo attached. 
> <image0.jpeg>
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 20, 2024, at 1:24?PM, lrc at red4est.com wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> I've run a variety of HS carbs over the years and have never seen one where the sheath moves. 
>> Or any other carb with a choke cable for that matter.
>> 
>> 
>> On May 20, 2024 12:27:08 PM PDT, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>>> I have HS4 carbs, newly rebuilt, which I am putting on an early 5 main MGB engine in an MGA.  I?m all set, except the choke mechanism.
>>>  
>>> A stock MGA cable has the sheath firmly attached to the knob assembly at the dashboard.  It expects the choke to be pulled on by the cable.
>>>  
>>> The HS4 carbs expect the sheath to move, the cable itself being held stationary at the carbs, while the knob is pulled out.  I?m trying to understand the mechanism.  Is it as simple as a sheath that is not attached at ether end and therefore floats, and changes position moving the choke as the cable is shortened by pulling the knob?
>>>  
>>> The simplest answer would be to just get an MGB choke cable, which I might do.  But first I want to understand the movement of the sheath, the cable, the knob, and the choke assembly.
>>>  
>>> Can anyone help me out here?
>> 
>> -- 
>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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>> 
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From david_breneman at yahoo.com  Tue May 21 09:07:57 2024
From: david_breneman at yahoo.com (David Breneman)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 15:07:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mgs] MGA starter switch
References: <1608031616.2500161.1716304077920.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1608031616.2500161.1716304077920@mail.yahoo.com>

The starter switch, which has been a little flakey since last fall, is now dead, even when pushing the button on the back.? The switch is about 20 years old.? I know that the quality of these nowadays runs the gamut from crummy to awful, so can anyone suggest a source for an acceptable replacement?? Thanks!

David Breneman david_breneman at yahoo.com
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From spridget at gmail.com  Wed May 22 15:11:45 2024
From: spridget at gmail.com (Stan Fickes)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2024 17:11:45 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MGA starter switch
In-Reply-To: <1608031616.2500161.1716304077920@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1608031616.2500161.1716304077920.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1608031616.2500161.1716304077920@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAK23Kv_XRo9AS2Suw-kbVaYM36Tr6sWrzP-9VTVTEvHmD1USLg@mail.gmail.com>

I just replaced my switch with one from Scarborough Faire less than
two weeks ago. I can't speak about long-term quality but it has worked
at least a dozen times. $24.29.

I had shorted the battery line to the switch center pin which also
vaporized a section of the starter pull cable. An inexpensive bicycle
brake cable, cut with an oxy-acetylene torch and JB Welded into the
"S" knob did the trick nicely.

On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 11:22?AM David Breneman
<david_breneman at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> The starter switch, which has been a little flakey since last fall, is now dead, even when pushing the button on the back.  The switch is about 20 years old.  I know that the quality of these nowadays runs the gamut from crummy to awful, so can anyone suggest a source for an acceptable replacement?  Thanks!
>
> David Breneman david_breneman at yahoo.com
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